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Speaker 1: WBT Hall of Famer and longtime member of the Panther

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Speaker 1: Radio Network. One of the many voices of my childhoods

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Speaker 1: a young Panther fan. He is the great Jim Zochie Jim,

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Speaker 1: good morning man. How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Petty, good to hear you.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, Jim?

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Speaker 1: I cannot complain because I'm sitting in air condition. I'm

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Speaker 1: not out there in the elements, in the heat. I

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be out there, though, So make sure

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Speaker 1: you keep my man Mac in line, because I know

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Speaker 1: he was excited to be a part of today's practice

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Speaker 1: because Dave Canalis said, Hey, this is going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot longer practice, is going to be a much

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Speaker 1: more physical practice. I know they've been out there for about,

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty five thirty thirty five minutes or so.

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Speaker 1: What's the early takeaways from today's padded practice so far?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was actually standing with Mac, and then Kyle

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Speaker 2: Bailey has made an appearance here as well, and we were,

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Speaker 2: you know, just i't think it'll give it away the

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Speaker 2: playbook here, but JJ Jansen was going passes to the

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Speaker 2: safeties and taking it very seriously. So I don't think

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Speaker 2: we'll see that in a regular season game, but that's

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Speaker 2: kind of happening in front of us here, and then

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Speaker 2: as you know you've been out here, further down the

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Speaker 2: field is where the most most of the action seems

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Speaker 2: to happen away from the media side, so it's a

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Speaker 2: little bit more difficult to see right now. And actually

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Speaker 2: walked off down the sidewalks here, so I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: over practice, but yeah, they usually you said it's a

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Speaker 2: longer practice. Today it's a padded practice, so usually they

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Speaker 2: go about ninety minutes, so I think they'll go hour

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Speaker 2: forty five close to two hours today. They have tomorrow

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Speaker 2: off and they get back at it on Friday.

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Speaker 1: So we heard about Chandler Savalla suffering the injury yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He's got a brace on today.

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Speaker 1: How how concerned should Panther fans be about that injury

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Speaker 1: as we're about a week in the camp.

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Speaker 2: I guess you know. The news was it's it's a

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Speaker 2: week to week injury, and it sounds like something that

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Speaker 2: will resolve itself during this preseason, so as opposed to

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Speaker 2: a more significant injury of full tear something like that.

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Speaker 2: With the till that's that's good news. As far as

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Speaker 2: the extent of that injury goes and I guess they jinkstick.

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Speaker 2: They were talking every day about how they have everybody

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Speaker 2: back from the offensive line, the starters and all the

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Speaker 2: key reserves, and it's football, so stuff happens. We're seeing

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Speaker 2: that happen all around training camps elsewhere where. Injury are

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Speaker 2: bound to occur. And you know, one thing about Dave

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Speaker 2: canalis is and not that it's like led to this,

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Speaker 2: but you know he wants to have as much as

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Speaker 2: you can push the envelope safely, to have practices that

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Speaker 2: have tempo, that have energy, that have physicality, because you

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Speaker 2: find out you get into the regular seasons some of

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Speaker 2: these games and you arrest everybody, and next thing you

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Speaker 2: start playing real football and you're a step slow and

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Speaker 2: not used to tackling and all those things. Again, they

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Speaker 2: don't tackle and do all that here, but just trying

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Speaker 2: to take it as far as they can, having another

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Speaker 2: padded practice two out of three days, just to do

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Speaker 2: as much as you can in practice to simulate real

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Speaker 2: football when it rolls around.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of talk, conversation and hype around

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Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro as he's making his return to football. Want

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Speaker 1: to sit out to you in your time seeing him well.

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Speaker 2: And you know, basically when Dabo was here Monday, he

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Speaker 2: summarized it greatly by saying, you know what a great

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Speaker 2: route runner he is. That's the first thing that stands

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Speaker 2: out is he called him the craftsman as opposed to

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Speaker 2: a route runner. And you is he even in a

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Speaker 2: practice setting. I mean we don't we're not privy exactly

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Speaker 2: what the route is supposed to be in the playbook.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's just always and promote the coach of

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Speaker 2: state where he's supposed to be. Just a veteran route

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Speaker 2: runner very much reminds you in that way of an

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Speaker 2: Adam Feeling, which is so important to the quarterback to

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Speaker 2: know when you're dealing with these young receivers and rookies

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Speaker 2: and you know, got some senior guys coming in, but

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Speaker 2: Adam Feeling's case, you know, thirty three, thirty four years

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Speaker 2: old that you know, they know where they're supposed to

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Speaker 2: be and if they're not in that right spot and

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Speaker 2: Bryce is go into a spot and they're not there,

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Speaker 2: look at the quarterback. This is so I think that

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Speaker 2: just adds another player like that and what's extra bonus

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Speaker 2: with him, of course, is that he can help you

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Speaker 2: in the return game. So I think he's got a

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Speaker 2: really good chance to stick even though you have Adam Feeling.

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Speaker 2: But also moving forward, if say this happens to be

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Speaker 2: feelings last year, gives you another veteran presence. So I

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Speaker 2: like his odds as far as what he brings. Even

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Speaker 2: though we have, you know, David Moore, we've got Adam Feeling.

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Speaker 2: I think having another guy like that around to develop

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Speaker 2: your young quarterback even further is a great receiver to

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Speaker 1: You're no straight to the hype and the conversation that

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Speaker 1: the Panthers wide receiver room has generated here in the

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Speaker 1: first week or so of camp, but hasn't been a

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Speaker 1: exavierly get how would you assess his second training camp

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Speaker 1: so far as the Carolina Panther.

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Speaker 2: There been moments he looked really good. There was a

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Speaker 2: you know video from the other practice of the day

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Speaker 2: where he kind of runs a little fade out there,

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Speaker 2: catches it over the shoulder and makes a catch against

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Speaker 2: Mike Jack. So that's what you want to see is

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Speaker 2: and win those one on one matchups where it's good

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Speaker 2: on good one on one guy like that, and you know,

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Speaker 2: last year was a mixed bag. But I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young, I think you have to give some grace

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Speaker 2: to a rookie player that was injured at times, was

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Speaker 2: learning at other times. He certainly has some drops that

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Speaker 2: were tea in some situations and games that you know

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Speaker 2: they could have affected things in a better way if

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Speaker 2: he'd made those catches. So that's the development that that confidence,

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Speaker 2: and you see all the physical traits that are there.

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Speaker 2: He's a great guy, obviously a great part of this

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Speaker 2: team as far as his teammates loving them. So now

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Speaker 2: I just stay take that next step of being more

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Speaker 2: consistent and catching the ball and being like Hunter and

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Speaker 2: being like Adam Field and be able to run those

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Speaker 2: those routes a little bit more precisely, because I do

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Speaker 2: you know, at times either you get bumped off your

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Speaker 2: route or you're not running it precisely. You run a

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Speaker 2: little bit more of a loop than a straight line

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Speaker 2: to where you're supposed to be as an example, things

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Speaker 2: like that that the coaches have talked about. So I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, this is a chance for him to really

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Speaker 2: round pick the previous year to take it to the

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the consistency there. We had a text or

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Speaker 1: Texas earlier. That's say a healthy XAVER league league at

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Speaker 1: equals one thousand yards receiving and ten touchdowns. What do

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Speaker 1: you think from a production standpoint would qualify as a

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Speaker 1: successful sophomore season for him?

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Speaker 2: I think you know, first of all the eyeball tests,

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Speaker 2: you know that he when the ball does come to

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Speaker 2: him and he catches it, and that he is able

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Speaker 2: to be a part of what's going on here. Because

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Speaker 2: we mentioned this is probably about as long as the

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Speaker 2: all offensive line, one of the deepest positions on the team,

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Speaker 2: So feeling's going to get his catches. I think Jalen

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Speaker 2: Kocher deserves to get more opportunities and more catches. Certainly

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Speaker 2: t Mac is being counted on as being the eventual

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Speaker 2: number one receiver here and if we do it hunder

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Speaker 2: Ren for so, I don't know to answer Christy you

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Speaker 2: put a stats number on it, because I think it's

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Speaker 2: more about do the part when you're asked to do it,

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Speaker 2: and nobody should have to have you know, a huge

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Speaker 2: statistical season because there'd be a lot of mounts to

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Speaker 2: feed him. I'm hoping for the first time in a

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Speaker 2: long time, like with j. C. Sanders at the tight

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Speaker 1: We're talking with Jim z Oki, longtime member of the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers radio network. You know how a famous the

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Speaker 1: JJ Janssen long games are that he does. He plays

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Speaker 1: over there with a specialist yesterday. Andy Dalton, you know,

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Speaker 1: took a part in those. And I'm gonna try to

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Speaker 1: correlate this, you know, into Bryce Young where you know,

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Speaker 1: when Andy was brought he's supposed to be a mentor

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Speaker 1: and help Bryce grow and learn the NFL game. Of

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Speaker 1: course he got you know, thrust it into action last

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Speaker 1: year after Bryce was benched in Week two. What does

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Speaker 1: it say about where Andy Dalton is where he feels

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Speaker 1: comfortable to maybe not be as quote unquote involved in

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Speaker 1: the quarterback room because there's much more trust and believe

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Speaker 1: in Bryce Young as he's kind of taken that step

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Speaker 1: a leader.

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Speaker 2: It's really the perfect combination for this room. Since at

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Speaker 2: the end of last season, Dave Sanallis said, Bryce is

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Speaker 2: our quarterback, whereas you know, there were many weeks when

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Speaker 2: Bryce was even starting. We'll see how this week goes.

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Speaker 2: So when it was annointed that that Bryce is the guy,

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Speaker 2: that's not a competition. It's great that Andy wants to

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Speaker 2: be here and is at this stage of his career

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Speaker 2: fourteen years in whatever that he loves Charlotte, he loves

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Speaker 2: being a part of this quarterback room, will start when

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Speaker 2: play when called upon, but does not mind being a mentor.

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Speaker 2: And just to contrast that with and again nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: with this, but in Cleveland they've got the other four

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Speaker 2: quarterback situation. Joe Flacco was asked the same question earlier

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Speaker 2: in their camp back in the spring, and he said,

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to mentor anybody if they learned something

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Speaker 2: from me by watching how I ask questions in the

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Speaker 2: meeting room, how I play, how I practice, I'm happy

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Speaker 2: to do that or answer their questions, but I'm here

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Speaker 2: to win the job over the young guys they drafted

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Speaker 2: with the two rookies and Kenny Pickett being up there.

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Speaker 2: So that's not what Andy Dalton news and he's happy

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Speaker 2: to be the ultimate teammate as this situation they happen

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Speaker 2: him under contract here to be that guy.

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Speaker 1: I think Dave canw said yesterday in his press availability

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Speaker 1: that the tied end room is a position of strength

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Speaker 1: for them, and that's without Tommy Trumble right now being

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Speaker 1: an active member and practice you added Mitchell Evans in

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Speaker 1: the draft or product out of Notre Dame. What is

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Speaker 1: studut you about from that position group without its leader.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and again rookie, It'll be interesting to see this

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Speaker 2: year what kind of contributions Mitchell Evans has. But I

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Speaker 2: like the potential because like Tommy Trumble also coming out

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Speaker 2: of Notre Dame, is a combo guy where he was

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Speaker 2: a good blocker and also a good receiver at the

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Speaker 2: college level, it doesn't always translate immediately into the pro game.

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Speaker 2: And I think Trumble's gotten better each year, and he's

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Speaker 2: had some injury setbacks that have slowed that. But I

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Speaker 2: think with Evans that same opportunity exists where he can

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Speaker 2: be a guy that is not just a blocker or

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Speaker 2: he's not just the receiving type of tight end. And

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Speaker 2: it looks like the envision Sanders being more that receiving guy.

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Speaker 2: The fact that he's trimmed down lost some weight and

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Speaker 2: he's got the most agility as far as the tight

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Speaker 2: end into receiving there. So it should be a good combination.

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Speaker 2: Probably would not surprise me if we get towards the

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Speaker 2: end of camp and then they at least look at

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Speaker 2: whether they pull the trigger it out bringing in a

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Speaker 2: you want those doule tight ends for the times that

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Speaker 2: you want to do that. And as we know, the

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Speaker 2: fullback doesn't exist here, so that's really something as an

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Speaker 2: HVAC tight end position that they can look at. All.

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Speaker 1: Right, Zech, I'll get you out with at least one

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Speaker 1: question about the defense. Has been a week since the

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Speaker 1: Pant's moved on from Josie Jewel. That put a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on Trevin Wallace. Of course, the addition of

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Speaker 1: Christian Rose Boom in free agency. How should pant their

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Speaker 1: fans feel about the linebacker spot a week after losing

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Speaker 1: a guy that was a big part of what the

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Speaker 2: It hurts your depth for sure, because it was gonna

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Speaker 2: be Rose Boom kind of the first backup with Wallace

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Speaker 2: when training camp the big cutdown comes that maybe they

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Speaker 2: look to bring in a guy that's more stable. They

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Speaker 2: had some younger veteran guys that came in and did

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Speaker 2: some good stuff like last year, like like Chevalists of

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Speaker 2: some others. But I think mostly it's an unknown, so

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Speaker 2: we'll see if somebody emerges. I would say the same

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Speaker 2: about backup cornerback. Mostly an unknown safety. So it's not

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Speaker 2: that the talent isn't there, just do we know what

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Speaker 2: we have and you know exactly. An example of that

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Speaker 2: is like Demani Richardson last year, like a year ago,

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Speaker 2: who would have thought, you know, an undrafted rookie could

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Speaker 2: contribute and maybe be a starter a year later at safety.

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Speaker 2: So who are this year's Demani Richardson and linebacker and

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Speaker 2: then the secondary we don't know, so we'll see. That's

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Speaker 2: why they want to sort through the players they have

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Speaker 2: right now. I think, give them a long look and

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Speaker 2: then if they need to, you know, plug and play

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Speaker 2: with a couple veteran free agents that might get released elsewhere.

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Speaker 3: That's the voice of Jim Zochi.

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Speaker 1: You know him, you love and you can catch them

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Speaker 1: on Monday mornings on the Mac and Bone Show with

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Speaker 1: a view from the booth. Jim, thank you for checking

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Speaker 1: in live from hanging at their's training camp.

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Speaker 3: Stay safe, stay cool. We'll talk to you later down

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Speaker 3: the road. My man appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Biddy,