1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Hate to do it, hate to do what? Don't want 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: to do it? Oh no, but I don't really have 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: a choice. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Okay, hands are tied. Huh. 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Well it's nine oh seven, Okay, October the seventh, correct, 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. And I know we have thousands of 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: people every day look forward to tuning into this program. 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: And so I hate, you know, to bring the show 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: down by doing my least favorite part of every show, 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: which is I'm going to talking about how right we work? 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: Oh no, right out of the gate. 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: But we've been telling you, our fabulous audience now for 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: one week. The shutdown has entered. The federal government shutdown 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: has entered. Week This is day seven, right, day seven 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: of the government shutdown. 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: We're aware is that funding deal? 17 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all still here. We're all still taking nourishment 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: upright in the correct direction. Society running relatively smoothly. You know, 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: there's a famous episode of the Office where there are 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: the TV show The Office where there are just no bosses, 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: and Jim, one of the main characters, looks at the 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: camera and goes, you know, it turns out if you 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: just hire the right people and just leave alone, they'll 24 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: pretty much take care of everything right on their own. 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: That's sort of how society works, right. Think about how 26 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: much government don't need anyway, We've been telling you from 27 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: the beginning this is not worth getting upset about or 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: excited about, or even taking an interest in, because we 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: already know how this is going to end. The Republicans 30 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: have passed Biden spending levels. Because the Republicans are just 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: as addicted to legalized, to vote buying and making sure 32 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: their donors and lobbyists are taken care of as the Democrats. 33 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: They play you people for idiots, year after year after 34 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: year after year. I'm not saying you are idiots, but 35 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying your zest for a better life. They are predators. 36 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 1: The Republicans are financial predators, and they take full advantage 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: of you wanting to believe that there's somebody out there 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: who wants to make one damn bit of difference in 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: our world, and these people don't. And they are predators, 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: and they take advantage of you, and they just keep 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: spending the money. They keep doling out the favors, they 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: keep the gravy train rolling, they keep furthering us into 43 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: debt thirty seven and a half trillion in climbing and 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: so that's their victory lap as we passed Biden level 45 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: spending in almost all the Biden level of the Biden programs, 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: and they've painted themselves as the good guy in the equation. 47 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: And we said, okay, that's the first side of this. 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: The second side is the Democrats shut the government down 49 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: over continuing Obamacare, and the Republicans are absolutely going to 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: continue Obamacare because, as I just said, they're in the 51 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: legalized vote buying business. It's been a giant scam and 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: a lie for fifteen years. They have zero intention of 53 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: shutting down Obamacare because too many people get too much 54 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: out of it, and most importantly, their insurance friends make 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: a gajillion dollars off of Obamacare, so that's never going away. 56 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know what we're all anybody's excited about 57 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: or pay in any of this, boy Howdy casey. Yesterday, 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: on numerous occasions, we saw the Republicans start to tip 59 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: their hand on exactly what they're gonna do, and they're 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: going to do exactly what we've said. 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: So Donald Trump said negotiations could lead to very good 62 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: things regarding healthcare. He didn't confirm any meetings, but he 63 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: hinted towards Yeah, there's some wiggle room there. 64 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: You had Marjorie Taylor Green come out and say she's 65 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: essentially in favor of the Obamacare subsidies. Now, what they 66 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: try to paint Obamacare, what this debate about is people 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: being able to afford their insurance. Notice, they don't care 68 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: at all about you being able to afford your insurance 69 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: through your employer. There's not one conversation right now about, boy, 70 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: we really got to do something for the hard working 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: people in this country. No, the conversation is mostly about 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: making sure the freeloaders continue to get more of the 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: free stuff, which they call them creative names like Obamacare subsidies. 74 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: But it's taking money from you. Well, it's printing the money, 75 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: which is making everything more expensive for you and giving 76 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: it to them so they can by overpriced insurance to 77 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: keep their insurance lobby friends very happy. 78 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: That's what this is all about. 79 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: Uh huh Okay, So the ACA subsidies they're set to 80 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: expire at the end of the year, and if that happens, 81 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: it's being reported that the increasing premiums could go up 82 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: by seventy five percent. 83 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: So what so, what I have paid for people to 84 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: have this because it was never about making insurance more affordable. Casey, 85 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: has your insurance in the past fifteen years ever gotten 86 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: more affordable? 87 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: Now? 88 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: Has it ever gone down in price? 89 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: No? 90 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. That was a lie. If you liked your doctor, 91 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: you could keep it. That was a lie. This was 92 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: never about better medical care. It was never about more 93 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: affordable insurance. It was about getting people addicted to government, 94 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: running up the tab, making people dependent on these government programs, 95 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: and helping their their friends in the insurance lobby. That's 96 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: what this has always been about. They don't want it 97 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: to go away. The Republicans have had multiple opportunities for 98 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: it to go away. They have another opportunity to hear 99 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: because if the subsidies go away, the whole thing falls over. 100 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: The Republicans don't have to do anything. Just do nothing. 101 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: If you want Obamacare to go away, do nothing. But 102 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: they're not doing that. They're going to cut a deal 103 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: with the Democrats to keep Obamacare alive. 104 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, Trump said he would consider a deal on extending 105 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 3: the Affordable Care Act if the right deal came along. 106 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: Now, let's go back to what the right deal is 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: to the Republicans, because that's what they're hanging their hat on. Yeah, 108 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: this little working group that they formed or focus group 109 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: or whatever they're calling them, the hard line in the 110 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: sand for the Republicans, this doesn't mean the means the best 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: you're going to get now, they're not going to get this. 112 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: But the best you're going to get is that they 113 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: essentially reset Obamacare to where it was before COVID. That's 114 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: their big reform to Obamacare is sure it wasn't doing 115 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: anything we said, it wasn't helping the people that we 116 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: promised to help. But we're going to reset this to 117 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: where it was in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty levels, which 118 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: they're not going to get that anyway. But that's their 119 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: big line in the sand on Obamacare. 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: So Senator Todd Young he has called this government shut 121 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: down a manufactured crisis caused by the Democrat. 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: No, it's caused by him, It's caused by them. 123 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: It's caused by the Republicans because they spent all their 124 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: time on this stupid, big bullcrap bill, which also is 125 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: a giant giveaway to select pockets of people they want 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: to vote for them, rather than doing the actual business 127 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: of the American people, rather than doing the actual things 128 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: that they've campaigned on for twenty five years. Oh yeah, 129 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: we've learned our lesson one more shot. We'll get the 130 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: spending under control, We'll get it all in line. We'll 131 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: get government back to where it needs to be. We've 132 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: learned our lesson one more sent And what do they do. 133 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: It's always the same special interest priorities. It's the same 134 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: legalized vote buying operations at the expense of you. So 135 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: they spent how many months instead of focus on doing 136 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: the business of running an efficient, lean, slim down government. No, 137 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: they spent that time focused on this giant giveaway to 138 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: make the president happy rather than do their jobs. 139 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: All right, Well, here's Donald Trump and he is still 140 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: branding it as the Democrats shut down at the vote today, 141 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: failed in the Senate, will not figure layoffs. 142 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: It could at some point it will. And you know, 143 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: the Democrats are the ones that started this. And if 144 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: you think about it, it's about health care to a 145 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 4: large extent. It's about we want great health care for people. 146 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: We don't want to give the money away to other 147 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: people that come pouring into our country, and they've already 148 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: poured because nobody's coming into our country now. We have 149 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: the border totally stopped. In fact numbers, we just announced 150 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 4: again we're in another zero. So we have zero for 151 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: four months in a row, zero people coming into our 152 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 4: country illegally. And that's a pretty good number. I'm not 153 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: sure even I can believe that, Doug, if you want 154 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 4: to know the truth. 155 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: Zero. Trump is still saying that it's the Democrats wanting 156 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: to give health care to illegals. 157 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: The whole thing sucks. To quote Ronnie Dangerfield in Caddyshack, 158 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: why this whole place sucks? Like they are painting themselves 159 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: as the good guys, being the Republicans overdoing all the 160 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: Biden stuff. What is good or decent about any of that? 161 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: And if the whole goal is we must keep the 162 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: government open at any cost, then we've already lost this conversation. 163 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: Like I see people like Marlon Stutsman doing the Johnny 164 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: smartass routine on social media and I want to puke 165 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: because you people are just as bad in this equation. 166 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: Because over the past twenty plus years, if we look 167 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: at what party has been accountable for more debt, more 168 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: government spending, more irresponsible government, more growth of government. Marlin, 169 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: it's you and the Republicans and yet they're doing some 170 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: sort of victory lap here as though they're the good 171 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: guys in all of this, when they're screwing you just 172 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: the same way the Democrats are, just through a different means. 173 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendall and Casey, it is ninety three 174 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: WIBC Casey. 175 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: I have a big concern. What's that? I am beginning 176 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: to think are elected a fiefs have no idea what 177 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: they're doing? 178 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: Are they not aware that they have to pass a 179 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: balanced budget? Why I like everybody's bragging about we passed 180 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: a balanced budget because you have to. 181 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm very concerned about people at a local level, and 182 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: I'm very concerned about people to a state level. 183 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: Is there anything we can do? 184 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Because I see whether it's the governor or now the 185 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: mayor of Indianapolis making it a talking point, which means 186 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: somebody wrote it down, somebody hit send, Yeah, somebody I 187 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: would hope read and reviewed and approved and said, look 188 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: in this case, mister mayor, Before that, mister governor, does 189 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: this look good to you? 190 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: So I'm going to say this as. 191 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: As slow as I can and still put it in 192 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: a coherent sentence so that hopefully now it will register 193 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: because the radio guy. 194 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: No. 195 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: Look, I know local government and state government better than 196 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: about ninety nine point nine percent of the people out 197 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: there walking. I get that, But this is pretty elementary 198 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: stuff that if you're an elected you should probably have 199 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: a firm grasp on. And these people would never just 200 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: lie for the sake of manipulation. I refuse to believe 201 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: that they actually know what's going on and they're just 202 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: lying for the sake of manipulation. So as an educational 203 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: tool here, I'm going to say this very slowly, all right, 204 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: and everybody hearing my voice right now. If you're whether 205 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: it's your mayor or your city council or your town 206 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: council or your county council, or whoever it is, tries this. 207 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: Routine with you, you just say it in the. 208 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: Same way I'm saying it right now, or you say 209 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: it right back to them, because either they're woefully uninformed 210 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: or they are manipulative, deceptive, habitual liars trying to fool 211 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: and con you into thinking they did something. Leave that, 212 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: and either way they need this said to them. You 213 00:10:48,600 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: half two pass a balanced budget as a local or 214 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: state official. Okay, follow up, Yeah, that is because you 215 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: can't print money. Oh there was that, simple enough. 216 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. 217 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Look at what we did. We did what we have 218 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: to do. We don't have an option, look at us. 219 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 220 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: Hey, that was the talking point from Joe Hawks that 221 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: last night about the city's one point seven billion dollar budget. 222 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: We balanced it. Yeah, no kidding, idiot, you had to. 223 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm not running. I'm not running for nothing. 224 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 2: I'm running something. I run it from things. 225 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: Uh huh. 226 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: I wish he'd do that. They should mandate in order 227 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: for him to ever get to us speak at any 228 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: meetings going forward, that he should have to do that. 229 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: That should be his introduction every time he takes the 230 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: things to the floor to speak. What a disgrace these 231 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: people are. Oh my gosh. 232 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: So the budget passed seventeen to eight by the city 233 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: County Council, and they did address the forty three million 234 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: dollars shortfall. They said they're going to do that through 235 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: agency reductions and higher permitting fees. 236 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 2: So wait, wait, you know what a permitting say Say 237 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: that again, Say that again for Yeah, they're. 238 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: Going to address the shortfall through agency reductions and higher 239 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: permitting fees. 240 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: Oh nos, agency reductions. Oh no, But what was the 241 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: second part of that higher permitting. 242 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: Oh that's so if you so, let's see if you 243 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: have to have a permitting fee to do something, that's 244 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: a tax. Right, So they raised taxes. Okay, very good. Yeah, 245 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: make sure that we did that. 246 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, public safety on the list. They were exempt for 247 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 3: many cost cutting. The IMPD budget is going to raise 248 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: six percent to three hundred and fifty eight million dollars. 249 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: It's up forty six percent since twenty twenty three. 250 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Okay, but this would be my question because this is 251 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,599 Speaker 1: the new hawks at m O ever since like I 252 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe twenty two is he just throws a 253 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: bunch of money at IMPD and goes, look, I'm so 254 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: pro police. Look at what I did. How is it 255 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: going to make it better? There's no point in throwing 256 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: a single extra dollar at anything without a very clear plan. 257 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: See, government never does this. 258 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: And Tony got into this a little bit on his 259 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: morning show and he's absolutely right. And I harp on 260 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: this with these clowns in Warehouse Berg all the time. 261 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: What are you trying to do? What's the clear vision 262 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: by which we can judge are you succeeding or not? 263 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: And governments, I'm talking across the board there is almost 264 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: never a clear standard by what are we trying to do? 265 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: What is the goal of this government? How do you 266 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: judge us if it's successful or not? So in the 267 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: case of IMPD, simply throwing money at someone going here, ketch, 268 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: look at me. I love the police. That's not doing 269 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: the city any favors. There should be a clear spelling 270 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: out this is the money we're paying, this is where 271 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: the money's going. This is how you're going to judge 272 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: if it was successful or not. And if it doesn't work, 273 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: then we'll cut the budget going forward. You don't get 274 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: a blank check just because you put police by your name. 275 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: And yet on almost none of this, at least from 276 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: the mayor's office, there's any sort of clear leading of 277 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: standards by which he should be judged, because we know 278 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't want any standards. 279 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: So the question is what does success look like? 280 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: Right right? And you're never going you almost never get 281 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: that on how to be judged, because then that holds 282 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: people accountable. 283 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: So there was some political tensions going on as well. 284 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: Counselor Ron Gibson, he called the question to end the 285 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: debates last night. Oh we're done here, let's just vote. Yeah, 286 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: that's right, and other people are saying, wait, we're being silenced. 287 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: This is the censorship. 288 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: At least didn't call the cops on people this time. 289 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: Have them removed. 290 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: It's a huge upgrade. 291 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,479 Speaker 2: And there was a big debate about urban forests. 292 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Have you have you ever delved it? So there are. 293 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: That's that's an oxymoron, isn't it? Well it's so uh 294 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: Jimbo shrimp. 295 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: He's actually gotten a lot of talk lately because there 296 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: are pockets in this in Indianapolis and Marion County that 297 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: have large tracks of what we would I mean, forrest 298 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: is a strong word, with large tracks of tree line 299 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: and etc. I mean get force is a very strong word. 300 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: But for the sake of this discussion, we'll call it that. 301 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: And it's what do you want to do with this? 302 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: There are people who feel very strongly about preserving those 303 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: plots of land and keeping that as one of the 304 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: few remaining tracks of densely populated vegetation. 305 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: How about that green space? Yeah, thank you very much, because. 306 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: Again, for I don't know, but this has become a 307 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: big point of contention about how do you do it? 308 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: How do you preserve it? If you want to preserve it, 309 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: do you want to turn it over to a developer? 310 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: And that sounded like that continuity you played out last night. 311 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Counselor Michael Paul Hart. He proposed two million dollars 312 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: for it. It was voted down, mostly by the Democrats. 313 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: All Right, we got to take a break. When we 314 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: come back, Ryan Hendrick is going to join us. He 315 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: has been doing all sorts of boots on the ground 316 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: reporting information finding on the mark on what actually took 317 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: place with Mark Sanchez. And he has a whole bunch 318 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: of amazing information that he has been able to put together. 319 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: He actually talked on the phone yesterday with the attorney 320 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: for Sanchez. If you ever do anything wrong, you don't 321 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: want Ryan Hedrick trying to track you down. Yeah, he's 322 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: that guy's relentless. 323 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: He's going to share his info coming out from ninety 324 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: three WYBC. 325 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: All right, so, still a lot of moving parts with 326 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: the Mark Sanchez saga. It's kenl Casey John Rob, that's case. 327 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: He joined in the studio by WIBC Newsmad Extraordinaire Ryan Hedrick. Ryan, Hello, 328 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: what's up? 329 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: Rob? 330 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: How are you okay? 331 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 5: So morning, Case. 332 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: So it came out yesterday that there was a little 333 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: confusion on this, but that Mark Sanchez has secured the 334 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: services of the firm connected with Jim Boyles, who is 335 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: are the most high profile attorney in the city of Indianapolis. 336 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's in London right now with an Alex Palow. 337 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, with Alex Palos. 338 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 5: So I called him yesterday to see if there was 339 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 5: some way that we could get a comment and he 340 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 5: kind of laughed and said, I'm not going to comment. 341 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 5: And I said, well, would you consider commenting after the 342 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 5: case is done? And he laughed again. He said, listen, 343 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 5: I'm trying to be nice, but I'm not going to comment. 344 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 5: I'm never going to comment about any cases I'm involved with. 345 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: So Luke and Meyer, Jenny luken Meyer is his sort 346 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: of right hand person. I think she's handling this right now. 347 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: So obviously I don't think this is anybody's surprise. Sanchez 348 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: is sparing no expense in his legal defense. Yeah. 349 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 5: Everybody has a dream team, right, oj had a dream 350 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 5: team that got him off. So this is Mark Sanchez's 351 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 5: version of a dream team, and I guess he needs it. 352 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 5: After the Marion County Prosecutor filed a felony charge, bringing 353 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 5: a total of four charges now three misdemeanors, in one 354 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 5: for the serious bodily injury that he caused. 355 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: Now the other big public news. Then want to get 356 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: to how you spent your day yesterday? Was that? Now 357 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: there is a civil lawsuit that's been filed. 358 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no punitive like amount damage. But I guess 359 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 5: this guy is disfigured now. The sixty nine year old 360 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 5: grease delivery guy who was up until a couple of 361 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 5: weeks ago an illegal immigrant, he is now in a 362 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 5: whoa whoa. 363 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's the way say that again. 364 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 5: So he was up until a couple of weeks ago 365 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 5: not living here legally. He was in the process. Oh okay, yeah, 366 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 5: he was in the process. So this is not a 367 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 5: case involving an illegal immigrant. He's now an American citizen, 368 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 5: and he was celebrating the fact that he was making 369 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 5: the most of his opportunities in America, and his family says, look, 370 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 5: he was just trying to do his job when he 371 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 5: was attacked by Mark Sanchez. So now he's in a 372 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 5: neck brace. He's he's battered, bruised and beaten, and he's 373 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 5: still recovering. I reached out to his attorney, Eric this 374 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 5: morning We sent him an email to see if you 375 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 5: talk about this because he's making the media rounds. I 376 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 5: think he was on CBS News last night. He did 377 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 5: not get back to me as of what nine to thirty, 378 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 5: so waiting to hear from him. 379 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: Ryan Hedrick from the WBC newsroom is is our guest. 380 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: He spent much of his day yesterday, and we'll get 381 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: to that here in a second. Digging on what actually 382 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: took place or alleges alleged have taken place with the 383 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: whole Mark Sanchez saga. 384 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: Casey, Yeah, I'm just wondering. 385 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: So part of this lawsuit that the alleged victim is 386 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: bringing is also against Fox because they're saying that they 387 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: were unfitness as an employer and that Mark Sanchez had 388 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: a propensity for drinking, yeah, and or harmful conduct. Is 389 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: this something they're going to have to like prove over, 390 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: like this is a pattern of behavior. 391 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 5: I think they're probably going to have to do that 392 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 5: because I know when people are like high risk and 393 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 5: they're hired by companies, they usually have to divulge their 394 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 5: past and come clean and you know, swear on a 395 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 5: stack of bibles that they're not going to do this stuff. Again, 396 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 5: I don't know of Sanchez. I've never heard of Sanchez misbehaving. 397 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 5: I've never heard of him getting an OWI or DWR 398 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 5: beating up people in public. So I don't know the 399 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 5: gist of that complaint. I mean, I guess that he's 400 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 5: saying that his employer should be fully accountable for everything 401 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 5: he does off the clock. It's not like Sanchez beat 402 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 5: this guy up at Lucas Oil Stadium. 403 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to ask you about this because this 404 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: is your take your reporter hat off for a second. 405 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: Your wheelhouse is you know, you've admitted this, and you've 406 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: spent much of your last several years helping people with 407 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: addictions because of your struggle with the addiction. When a 408 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: guy has no history of this, like, it's one thing 409 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: if you and maybe he does have a history of it, 410 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: it just never got reported. But it's just kind of 411 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: weird that in Casey, we're talking about this off air 412 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: that he Okay, let's say the guy did drink too much, 413 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: which are or do something too much, which I believe 414 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: is at those harder sort of these allegations. Is it 415 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: possible that somebody did something. 416 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: To him that he made him act that way? 417 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: I used to consumingly, I'm just trying to figure out 418 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: how if you don't have a propensity to do this, 419 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: that it gets to this point. I think that's what 420 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: people are struggling with. 421 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 422 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 5: Well, on the supporting Sobriety podcast that myself and Matt 423 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 5: Bear host, I'd been upfront about my struggle. So in 424 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 5: two thousand and seven I thought I was going to 425 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 5: get black bald from radio. I was working in Baltimore 426 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 5: at was then a thirteen hundred AM. It was an 427 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 5: ESPN radio station that at the time Dan Patrick had 428 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 5: an afternoon show, his syndicated show with Rob Dibble if 429 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 5: you could remember that, and I was doing sports updates 430 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 5: during Dan Patrick's syndicated show. And at the time I 431 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 5: had a really bad drug problem using. I was covering 432 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 5: the Orioles and the Washington Wizards and the Baltimore Ravens. 433 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: I was kind of all over the mid Atlantic map. 434 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 5: And when they had to fire me because I didn't 435 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 5: show up for a sports update for one day, a 436 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 5: no call, no show, my boss Dave Librosi, who has 437 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 5: since retired, told me that if we continue to employ you, 438 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 5: you are now aliable because of your drug using and 439 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 5: your alcohol using, and we can't account for anything that 440 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 5: you may do in a public setting, especially because I 441 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 5: had credentials to cover these teams in that special access. 442 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 5: So those words really resonated with me. As I'm covering 443 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 5: Mark Sanchez's story, I can totally dig where the plaintiffs 444 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 5: side is coming from. Because if and when Fox Sports 445 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 5: decides to take disciplinary action against him, say they keep 446 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 5: him on staff and he does this again, say at 447 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 5: a Christmas party or something, they could be on the hook. 448 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: And this is a totally naive question, but is it 449 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: possible somebody did something to a drink or something, because 450 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem like if bike. 451 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 5: Did drink from Mark Sanchez. 452 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying that it happen. I'm just saying 453 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: it's just I think this is what people are struggling with. 454 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: Is as you said, at least publicly, and you've looked 455 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: into this now you're a great reporter. There doesn't appear 456 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: to be any track record of, hey, the guy gets 457 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: violent and beats people up, or you know, you. 458 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 5: Don't know what he drank though I mean I used 459 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 5: to sort of say, yeah, I used to drink a 460 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 5: one hundred proof liquor. I mean, this stuff was just 461 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 5: I used to mix it with coke and not cocaine, 462 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 5: just co copine. Sure, and when I mix this hundred 463 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 5: proof with coke, I got angry, I got very confrontational. So, 464 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 5: I mean, we're just hypothesizing right now. 465 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: Right well, his friends and his former teammates, they're starting 466 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: to speak out and they're saying that he's such a 467 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 3: nice guy and they're just is so out of character. 468 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: And they even said that they want to investigate and 469 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: get to the bottom of what happened. Like they're making 470 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 3: it sound like he's partially a victim in this. 471 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 5: Well. I mean he's going to play the victim because 472 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 5: he's on the defensive right now. Not only is he 473 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 5: on the hook for the felony charge in three misdemeanors, 474 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 5: but he's on the hook for potentially millions and millions 475 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 5: and millions of dollars. I mean, Voiles is not going 476 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 5: to work pro bono, right This is going to cost 477 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 5: him a lot of money. This is going to cost 478 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 5: him a lot of money and a lot of credibility. 479 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 5: Maybe tear down this reputation. I mean, look at what 480 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 5: Tom Brenneman said, dropped a racial slur on the air, 481 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 5: and he's still struggling to get back and he didn't 482 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 5: assault anybody. 483 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: Ryan Hendrick from the WBC newsroom is our guest. Okay, 484 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: So you spent much of your day. I mean, this 485 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: is just great on the ground reporting, trying to get 486 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: information from people that may have been witnesses, that were witnesses, 487 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: kind of can you give us high levels some of 488 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: the things that you learned yesterday about what's alleged to 489 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: take a place. So the alley is O. 490 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 5: Sage Street south O Sage Streets technically not an alley, 491 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 5: it's the street that runs between Maryland and West Washington. 492 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 5: To the east is North Senate Avenue. So I went 493 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 5: behind the west and because I couldn't figure out exactly 494 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 5: where this fight took place, so I did locate the 495 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 5: bay where this worker was working to trade out the 496 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 5: oil in this fight that the prosecutors and the cops 497 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 5: say happened. So I paced it out and if they 498 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 5: started throwing blows by the air the fry dispensery, it's 499 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 5: about two hundred and thirty seven feet seventy nine yards 500 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 5: three quarters of a football field that Sanchez would have 501 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 5: had to have walked northeast, Yeah, northeast up the alley 502 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 5: to West Washington Street, stabbed in the torso. 503 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: Because the videos come out now one of these camera 504 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: street cams of him, and you could I mean it's 505 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: a black and white camera, but you can see him 506 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: with the stain and holding. 507 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 5: It definitely looks like he got stabbed, like right below 508 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 5: the pectoral muscle. Because the majority of the blood that 509 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 5: is seen coming from him is right under that pectoral muscle. 510 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 5: So if you took a shot kind of right around 511 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 5: the chest, you'd start bleeding down obviously not up. And 512 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 5: then he proceeds east up West Washington Street by Pronta Pizzeria, 513 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 5: right where Loupe martine zones that I talk to him, 514 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 5: that's another story. And then he proceeds to the pub 515 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 5: to bang on the window and get help at about 516 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 5: twelve thirty. 517 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: But you pointed out how far he had to go. 518 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 5: Seventy nine yards that's three quarters of a football field. 519 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 5: So I had a buddy that got stabbed in a 520 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 5: bad drug deal on the South side of Chicago ten 521 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 5: years ago. I called him to ask him what would 522 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 5: Mark Sanchez have had to endure being stabbed near the chest, 523 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 5: and he said two things, man, fight or flight or 524 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 5: just sheer endurance would have to win out before you 525 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 5: walk that way. And then as you walk, because he 526 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 5: was walking, he got in a fight with somebody and 527 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 5: had to walk to a police station. Walk in the precinct, 528 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 5: maybe about half the distance that Sanchez did. He said 529 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 5: he collapsed. So Sanchez was by the time he was 530 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 5: banging on the window, you could probably assume that he 531 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 5: was at a gas He was worried, he was losing breath, 532 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 5: His heart was probably fluttering, and he's probably having a 533 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 5: difficult time breathing at that point. 534 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: So he's probably very lucky to be alive for sure. 535 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 5: I mean, the bartender, who was also the general manager, 536 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 5: applied pressure in the wound, called the cops. And I 537 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 5: have a hard time believing that this guy who basically 538 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 5: works in a sports bar didn't know it was Mark Sanchez. 539 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 5: Maybe he didn't, I don't know, but Mark Sanchez is 540 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 5: a pretty recognizable character around here, right didn't he beat 541 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 5: the colts like yours? 542 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: Again, thank you for bringing that bringing that up. Okay, 543 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: before I let you go, I did want to ask 544 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: you this, like, have you sort of put together sort 545 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: of what is alleged to have happened. Like, can you just, 546 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: like in a minute, sort of explain how like from 547 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: the instigation to what happens. So somebody driving in the 548 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: road goes, Okay, now I get because there's just so 549 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: much info out there and they comes in bits and pieces, 550 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: can you sort of put it together in a. 551 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 5: Just imagine just two guys brawling. They're going side to side, 552 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 5: they're swinging, hitting each other, and Sanchez is on top 553 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 5: of this guy. 554 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: And it was over the guy's carving pods. 555 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 5: Well, I mean that's what Ryan Meher said over a 556 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 5: parking spot. I don't know if it was over a 557 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 5: parking spot or the alcohol exacerbated the feelings that Sanchez 558 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 5: just got angrier and angrier. But imagine guys swinging and 559 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 5: kicking and fighting for their lives. One guy gets the 560 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 5: better part of another guy and in a panic, reaches 561 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 5: up and pokes him in the chest with the knife, 562 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 5: and Sanchez staggers back. He's holding his chest, he's starting 563 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 5: to bleed, and he's like, I'm in trouble here. This 564 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 5: guy is probably more than I could handle at this point. 565 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 5: And now he certainly staggers three quarters of a football 566 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 5: field to. 567 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: Do we know what Sanchez on his way back to 568 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 2: the hotel. 569 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: No, I don't know that. And I went to two 570 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 5: bars yesterday, not to get back my clean time, but 571 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 5: to ask if Sanchez was drinking at those bars along 572 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 5: Maryland's drink. Nobody would touch it, nobody would say anything. 573 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 5: One guy at Connor's Pub looked at me and smiled 574 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 5: and said, I don't know anything. So I don't know 575 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 5: anything from the nut stand. 576 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: Well, you're going to stay on it. And I told 577 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: Casey said, if there's one guy I would not want 578 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: looking into me, it's you. Well, I was alleged to 579 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: do something. 580 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 5: I did send an email to the property management company 581 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 5: and they have yet to get back to me about 582 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 5: surveillance video. So I'll share that with all Right. 583 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: So there's a pre trial conference which is set for 584 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 3: November fourth at eight thirty. 585 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: In the meantime. You're going to stay on this, aren't you? 586 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: I will? Definitely. You're the best man. 587 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 5: Thank you, thanks for having me on. 588 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kennel and Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 589 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: So twenty twenty six is shaping up to be a 590 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: fascinating year for music because there's a lot of old 591 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: time bands, very popular bands that are at least pondering 592 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 1: and getting back together. 593 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well Rush has announced they're not just pondering it. 594 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: They're going to do it. 595 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 3: Their first tour in twenty twenty six, right, so their 596 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: first tour since the death of their drummer, Neil Perk. 597 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: So yes, that was what twenty was twenty. 598 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty passed away. 599 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: And they last toured together in twenty fifteen. Rush group. 600 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: People don't know that's a three piece group. They have 601 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: many songs you've heard of, much like Cream in the 602 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: sense of a phenomenal amount of sound for a three 603 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: piece group. And their drummer, who was also wrote most 604 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: of the lyrics to their songs, Neil Pert. He passed 605 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: away at cancer and they had kind of declared much 606 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: like Led Zeppelin did at the death of John Bonham. Hey, 607 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: Rush died with Neil Pert and now Geddy Lee and 608 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: gosh darn it, who's the other guy? Uh, he's the 609 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: least famous of the three. Anyway, it's horrible, I'm blanking 610 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: on the guy's name. Anyway, the two living memallogies, thank you, 611 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: thank you very much. They decided they were gonna get 612 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: back together. They have a replacement drummer. It's actually a woman. 613 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: It is. Her name is Anika Niles, who is. 614 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: A pretty known quantity. And they're actually going to and 615 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: I give Rush credit, they're admitting what they're doing here. 616 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna, for the first time ever, really have some 617 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: backup musicians. Geedty Lee came out and it was kind 618 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: of like, hey, look, we're old and we're doing this 619 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: as a tribute. 620 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: They're going to. 621 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: Add some additional musicians just to kind of expand their 622 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: sound in their stage presence. 623 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean, look, I give them credit because 624 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: they're Look, I'm sure they're going to not decline the 625 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: money that comes with this, so they're not running a 626 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: soup kitchen here, but they are saying, we want to 627 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: do this as a tribute. We the two remaining members, 628 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: felt this would be a great tribute and we want 629 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: to do this, and we recognize now at our advanced age, 630 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: some of the limitations that we're going to have. Although 631 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: I feel like a group like Rush can get away 632 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: with it because Geddy Lee is not Michael Jackson or 633 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: Mick Jagger right standing around on stage, so you can 634 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: kind of get away with it and pass and it'll 635 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: be It'll be fine. So I think if you're a 636 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: fan in Casey, there's two shows at the United Center Chicago. 637 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: I say, I know, Thursday, July sixteenth and Saturday, July eighteenth. 638 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 3: Tickets go on sale October seventeenth for the show. 639 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm okay with this because they're admitting up front what 640 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: it is. 641 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: It's a celebration of fifty years of Rush music. 642 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: And they're telling you that we're adding people and we're 643 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: it's not going to be Rush circa nineteen eighty But 644 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: if you love our music and you want to pay 645 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: tribute to a great member this band, and this may 646 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: be the last time we do this, then come see us. 647 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm totally okay with this, totally fine. 648 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: When you and I were talking about this last night, 649 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 3: I realized I have seen Russian concert. 650 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: It was circa nineteen eighty eight. 651 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 652 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: And I thought about it and I was like, wow, 653 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: Rob was what four. 654 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: I was just out of high school and you weren't 655 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: even in kindergarten yet. 656 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I probably had Rush on the radio hopefully. Boy. 657 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: Another band that is talking about reuniting is Fleetwood Mac. 658 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 3: There's been rumors swirling about yeah, ah nice. So you 659 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: know Stevie Nicks and Mick Fleetwood they both publicly wished 660 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: Lindsay Buckingham a happy birthday. Many people are saying, oh, 661 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: I thinks they're warming up between them, and now are 662 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 3: they going to go on the road. 663 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: The only thing more entertaining about Fleetwood Mac than their 664 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: music is their feuding, and there's been obviously when you 665 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: had the mcvie's Christine and John mcvee, who were part 666 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: of Fleetwood Mac for years, Obviously you had the Lindsay 667 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: bucking Stevie Nicks dynamic, you had Mick Fleetwood and Stevie 668 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: Nicks dynamic. I mean, just this bizarro thing of who's 669 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: hooking up with who and who's doing what. And then 670 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: obviously Christine McVie, who look Stevie Nicks, gets kind of 671 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: all the credit. I think Christine McVie was one hundred 672 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: times the singer that Stevie Nicks ever was, and I 673 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: think a lot of her songs that she let on 674 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: were better than the Stevie Nicks songs. She passed away. 675 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: John McVie he retired right. 676 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: And then Buckingham was it Buckingham and Fleetwood or Buckyam 677 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: and Nicks. I can't keep track of this. Most recent 678 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: they got into it said okay, we're done. I think 679 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: at one point Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham went out 680 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: as a pair. May I don't know, like I said, 681 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: I know, maybe it was mcvee and Buckingham. I don't know. Anyway, 682 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: I think they're talking about all the four living ones 683 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: getting back together, yeah, and. 684 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: Going on tour. 685 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 3: It would be something, it would definitely be a commercial success. 686 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 2: So the Rush thing definitely happened. Fleetwood Mac. 687 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 3: Maybe you're listening to Kendall and Casey on ninety three WIBC. 688 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 3: Coming up next, Jacob Stewart from Indie Star is going 689 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: to join us. 690 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. He's got a big article about Blackrock potentially buying 691 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: AES That is bad news for right Bears