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Speaker 1: one for the Colts. Now, the thing is, there's going

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Speaker 1: to be an Eddie, you tell me if this is correct.

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Speaker 1: If you go to New Fields better known as the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Museum of Art is its original name.

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Speaker 2: I've only been there once and it was for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I've ever gone there. Outside of that.

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Speaker 1: The Christmas lights is pretty special, right, and Newfields has

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Speaker 1: had their pr nightmares, some of them very just over

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Speaker 1: the last year, I realized. But if you go to

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Speaker 1: and I'm going on the way back, I assume this

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Speaker 1: don't know. But the Robert Indiana Love Sculpture, you've seen it, right, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: or at least seen you've seen designs of it, becauseps other,

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Speaker 1: Perhaps google Robert Indiana Love Sculpture and you'll know it

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Speaker 1: because you maybe see the sculpture. We have seen the

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Speaker 1: If you're a Chiese said, you're a Packer fan and

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Speaker 1: you're coming to Indianapolis to see your beloved pack, go,

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Speaker 1: a little Birdie's told me Eddie that that's your best

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Speaker 2: Ah. I see what you did there, Jake. Yes. It

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Speaker 1: That he will not.

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Speaker 2: Be participating in the upcoming preseason game. He gets cold

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Speaker 1: In the joint practice on Thursday. He can't even hitchhike

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Speaker 1: not be playing at all? Correct? Correct? So no, Jordan Love?

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Speaker 2: I believe he is? Yes, didn't he defeat the Colts?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that right? That was just Clifford the big red Dog?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what Clifford the Big Red Dog and

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Speaker 1: Well, sleep deprivation. It's a sleep deprivation Tuesday. I've always

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Speaker 1: in odyssey sims with her odyssey as a player that

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Speaker 1: this is not unusual for her will get into that,

435
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Speaker 1: but it also may very well play into the odyssey

436
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: that is the Caitlin Clark return. And I'll explain what

437
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean by that on the other side. And you

438
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: could always text us as well. Two three nine ten

439
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: seventy is the text line for the station. We see

440
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Speaker 1: your text we try to read them, We try to

441
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Speaker 1: interact with them. And again, as Eddie just mentioned, hold

442
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Speaker 1: her Stephanie White, Agnes Big show lined up here on

443
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Speaker 1: a Tuesday in a sleep deprivation one. It's querying company

444
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Speaker 1: on the fan, Eddie you mentioned, and we were going

445
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Speaker 1: to come back, and I do want to talk about

446
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Speaker 1: the Fever and Odyssey Sims. And one of the things

447
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Speaker 1: I think is a benefit is this is a player.

448
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: The Fever are in a position where again attrition the

449
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: word of the day. You know, they need point guard help,

450
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: and so they go out and they get Odyssey Simms,

451
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: who is a veteran player and a stablish you know,

452
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: a player that's been in the league a long time,

453
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: had a lot of success. But one of the things

454
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Speaker 1: I think is an advantage is she is a player

455
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Speaker 1: that joining a team mid season is not unique to her.

456
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Speaker 1: She has been through that and I think that helps

457
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Speaker 1: with and we'll talk to Stephanie White about this coming

458
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: up just under thirty minutes from now, but that that

459
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: helps with the immersion, I think. But then also if

460
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: you are having to kind of scale things back a

461
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Speaker 1: little bit because your point guard is one that is

462
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: not totally familiar with the playbook, obviously, Caitlyn Clark is.

463
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Speaker 1: But and tell me if this makes sense, does that

464
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Speaker 1: then also allow for a more of an ease in

465
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Speaker 1: when Caitlyn Clark is brought back from a practice standpoint.

466
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the way that I'm trying to

467
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Speaker 1: say that, because it's not like you're practicing lighter because

468
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: you have a new player. But if you're just from

469
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Speaker 1: a playbook standpoint, working on fewer things in the get

470
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Speaker 1: go with her there? Does that mean that that's a

471
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Speaker 1: time that is also good to get Caitlin Clark back

472
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Speaker 1: into the next.

473
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Speaker 2: I'd have to fully ask Stephanie White this question, because

474
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Speaker 2: based off of how they approach the season and leading

475
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Speaker 2: up in camp and whatnot, they wanted to play a

476
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Speaker 2: very similar style of basketball that the Pacers play, very

477
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Speaker 2: free flowing and kind of read and react versus, Hey,

478
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Speaker 2: we're going to break the ball up the court and

479
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 2: we're going to run play three or you know, one

480
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Speaker 2: run whatever set. They may have things they want to do,

481
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 2: and it may be similar across the WNBA. It's just

482
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: a matter of just how they phrase it and what

483
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Speaker 2: words they use to describe whatever the play is. So

484
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Speaker 2: I think most of the stuff they do already just

485
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Speaker 2: is kind of feeds off of without Kate the Clark

486
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Speaker 2: speaking that is right now is that they use a

487
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: Leah Boston a lot in the pick and roll. They

488
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Speaker 2: try to get her the ball at the free throw

489
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Speaker 2: line or at the top of the key, let her

490
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Speaker 2: make decisions and kind of be the quote unquote central

491
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Speaker 2: hub to their offense. And so I think it makes

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Speaker 2: it very easy for Outus Sims to come right in

493
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Speaker 2: and have an impactful role within this team, because we've

494
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: seen it with Erry McDonald Jake when they went down

495
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: earlier in the year. Underneath you know, the ten players available,

496
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Speaker 2: they brought her in on the emergency hardship contract and

497
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Speaker 2: she immediately had success. She came in off the bench,

498
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Speaker 2: she played about ten minutes a game to start. Next thing,

499
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Speaker 2: you know, she becomes a regular fixture in the rotation

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Speaker 2: after they bring her back for the rest of the

501
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Speaker 2: season and she ends up starting. And unfortunately now she's

502
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Speaker 2: out for the remainder of the season. But I think

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Speaker 2: there's an avenue to where obviously Sims, being the veteran

504
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Speaker 2: that she is, can just step right in and have

505
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Speaker 2: a role immediately.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that would certainly be her hope right,

507
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Speaker 1: and for the time being, she's going to have to.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in this part too, because I've gotten conflicting

509
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Speaker 2: things on this from a couple of different people I've

510
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Speaker 2: talked with right now that because with the way that

511
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: the WNBA works, Jake is, these emergency hardship contracts only

512
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: come to play when you have under ten active players.

513
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Speaker 2: So without Sidney Colson and without Aery McDonald, they were

514
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: at nine in their game against Chicago on Saturday, and

515
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: Kitlyn Clark obviously, so when Kaitlyn Clark comes back, that

516
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Speaker 2: means they have ten available players. And I had one

517
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Speaker 2: person tell me it doesn't matter that Odyssey Sims will

518
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Speaker 2: be here for the rest of the season because of

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Speaker 2: where they're at right now, and I had somebody else

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Speaker 2: tell me that once Kaitlyn Clark returns and Odyssey Sims

521
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Speaker 2: will have to be released because they will hit the

522
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Speaker 2: criteria for the minimum ten available players. So we're gonna

523
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Speaker 2: have to ask Stephanie White hopefully should give us clarification

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Speaker 2: on that.

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Speaker 1: And I don't if you know this or not, but

526
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Speaker 1: when I got hired here, they listed my contract as hardship. Really, yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: they looked at my status in life, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, you're in a hardship spot. Charity is

529
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Speaker 1: actually what they listed it asked. But a good question.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that. Another good question with the text

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Speaker 1: line two three, nine, ten seventy, so basically the same

532
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: number that you used to call in and interact with

533
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: the show, you can text too, and we see the texts.

534
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: Of course, don't text and drive please.

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00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: That's right.

536
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Speaker 1: But someone just and this feels like sports radio talk

537
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: show crutch, of like, so should Pete Rose be a

538
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer? Your calls class basketball, your calls, that's

539
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 1: always the you know who's on your mount rushmore your calls.

540
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: And taking a question that is asked on the text

541
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Speaker 1: line to us and saying, you know what, that's better

542
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: than anything that I'd come up with right now sounds

543
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: like sports talk radio crutch. But this is such a

544
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: good question. It is such a good question that we

545
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: have to address that. There are great questions in life.

546
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: What came first the chicken.

547
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: Or the egg?

548
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: What sizes Eddie's head? What does Eddie really wear an

549
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: eight and a half hat? What is the meaning of life?

550
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: If you are agree brain? What kind of tree would

551
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: you be? What's on what's on my mind? These are

552
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: all fabulous questions. And my last name is query, so

553
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: by nature it is designed that I am to be

554
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: able to understand a great question.

555
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: Do you feel like your last name has a impact

556
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: on who you are?

557
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: Jake?

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00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: I think very few people understand what my last name means.

559
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: But it does feel like I'm inquisitive by nature. Now

560
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, let me tell you.

561
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: Would you be inquisitive by nature if you were Jake Garrison?

562
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: No, I just have a huge cranium and and I

563
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: would be wondering if my little brother was you know

564
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: what time he was going to be done with his

565
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: fever postgame obligation And I'm going to tell you what

566
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: the question was. But just since you mentioned the inquisitive nature,

567
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Speaker 1: let me tell you a great compliment that I received.

568
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: Is it a compliment?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I think it was a compliment, and I'm going

570
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: to call him out for it. Ryan Marine, who does

571
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: and is outstanding, does any car radio with me? Ryan

572
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: Marine and I went back to the airport together after

573
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: the race in Portland. But we were talking about certain

574
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: drivers and their popularity level and why some drivers are

575
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: more popular than others. And Ryan's like, there's just like

576
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: an it charisma factor with someone. We're talking about pot Award.

577
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: He's like, he just has an it charisma factor. He's like,

578
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but he just has

579
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Speaker 1: this ability that when you meet him or whatever else,

580
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: that people automatically are drawn to him. I go, okay.

581
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: So we before we were going to the airport, we

582
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: stopped to get something to eat and we went into

583
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: this kind of burger bar, a cool place in Portland.

584
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: A Wayfinder if you're ever in the area, by the way,

585
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: is the name of it. So we go in and

586
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: we sit down and there was a couple next to us.

587
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this yesterday, but there's a couple

588
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: next to us. And we're sitting there waiting on our

589
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: food and you know, having a beer and a coke.

590
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: And I get to talking to this couple next to

591
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Speaker 1: us and we start talking about their upbringing in the

592
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Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest and they just moved back from the Tahoe

593
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: area whatever. And you know, we had like an hour

594
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: to kill while we're eating, so we're talking to him.

595
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: Really fun, really fun conversation. And we're leaving and Ryan

596
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: says to me, you remember when I was speaking about

597
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: Poda Award and the charisma and I go, yeah, and

598
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: he said, I don't mean this to be creepy, but

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00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: you have that exact same thing in terms of like

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00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: that conversation with those people, they acted like they've known

601
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Speaker 1: you forever. And I said, well, that's just because I'm

602
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: inquisitive and I can ask people questions to get to

603
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Speaker 1: know them a little bit. And maybe that's because of

604
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: my last name. It was a great compliment from Ryan.

605
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: Truth be told. I'm not saying I agree with it,

606
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: but I took it as a great compliment. But as

607
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: somebody who asks people questions both for a living and

608
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: also to start conversation, when I see a great question,

609
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: I say to myself, that is a great question, a

610
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: great one, and I will tell you what that great

611
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: question was, and we will actually discuss its elusive answer

612
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: on the other side. And Stephanie White in eighteen minutes.

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00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: By the way, Pacers schedule announced in terms of their opener,

614
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: and I have unpopular opinion on that because they open

615
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: up with Oklahoma City. But the question that was asked

616
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: to us, and I looked at it and immediately said,

617
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: that is a fabulous question. Fabulous question who wins more

618
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: games this season, the Indiana Fighting Football Hoosiers or the

619
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. That is a really good question.

620
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: Now, should we have the caveat in this Jacob regular

621
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: season or the higher season the season either way regular?

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00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: Oh, you're just talking about for Indiana, right, Yeah, for Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Indiana hasn't won a bowl game since nineteen ninety so

624
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: even if they were to make one but in this

625
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: hopefully this year, they snap that. But regular season, because

626
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: you would put the over under for the Colts at

627
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: probably around what is there over under in Vegas?

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Speaker 2: I would say nine and a half? What is even

629
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Speaker 2: and a half? Seven and a half?

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00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: Boy, Eddie, we're gonna do with you with the Colts

631
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: what we did with boy Indiana Football. You're ready now?

632
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: I need You're not going to be held accountable for this.

633
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: Don't worry. You're not held accountable for anything. Truth be told. Uh, okay,

634
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: here we go. Okay, I'm going to read off the

635
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: schedule to you, and I just need you to tell

636
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: me instinctively, don't break it down, don't sit here and

637
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: this and that we're assuming that all teams are healthy,

638
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: et cetera. I'm going to name the game, and you

639
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: simply tell me. You simply tell me when or loss

640
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: for the Colts. Are you ready?

641
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

642
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: Okay?

643
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins at home, loss, Denver Broncos at home, loss

644
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: at Tennessee.

645
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: When.

646
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: At the Rams, loss, Las Vegas Raiders at home, when

647
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals at home, when Los Angeles Chargers in l

648
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: A loss, Tennessee Titans at home, when Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh,

649
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: loss at Atlanta.

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00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: That's the Germany or whenever wherever.

651
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Speaker 1: They're Okay, Yeah, sorry, sorry loss, Sorry about that, Atlanta.

652
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: How do you say how do you say in or

653
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: how do you say versus in German?

654
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: No idea?

655
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: Ah, Atlanta? What did you go with for that?

656
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: I went loss?

657
00:36:53,880 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Chiefs and narrowhead loss, Texans at home. I'll say win,

658
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: Jaguars in Jacksonville, loss at Seattle. I'll go win Niners

659
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: at home, loss, Jaguars at home, win at Houston. Boy,

660
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: that's a tough one.

661
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: I'll go loss with an asterisk there, just because if

662
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: Houston's got the division wrapped up going into that final game,

663
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: you don't anticipate them playing minute. This is why Vegas

664
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: is undefeated at seven didn't I.

665
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Vegas over under seven and a half. You have them

666
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: at seven with an asterisk asterisk possibility of eight. I mean,

667
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: we did the exercise about AU football last week.

668
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: I had them at.

669
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 1: Nine three, nine wins. Yeah, whatever, however many games they play,

670
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: so you're going on you, that is a fabulous question.

671
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: The Colts have talent. One of the things that jumps

672
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: out at me about the Colts in terms of their opener. Okay,

673
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: when you look at their schedule, I'm going to read

674
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: off for you the first five games again, Ready you ready, Eddie, Miami,

675
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: Denver at Tennessee at the Rams, Vegas, then Arizona at home,

676
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: then at LA and then the Charge the Titans at home.

677
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: By October twenty sixth, they will have played one, two, three,

678
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: I guess realistically five, and I know that that's still

679
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: like literally just like half, but it feels like their

680
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: schedule is very home game front loaded, and they have

681
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: to then go on the road a lot at the

682
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: end of the year, at the time when they most

683
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: need to find footing. I realize that all balance is

684
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: out in the wash. And I think they have talent,

685
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: but just so much of it depends on the quarterback

686
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: play and that's just so. And look, they may get

687
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: great quarterback play. I don't know. That's the unknown. Now

688
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: speaking of schedules, and I mentioned the Pacers opening up

689
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: with Oklahoma City on in October. It is Oklahoma City's

690
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: second game. It is the Pacers opener. I have an

691
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: unpopular opinion, and I want you to tell me if folks,

692
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: you can text me at two three nine ten seventy

693
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: or at my cell phone number which also we use

694
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: either one and let me know if this is the

695
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: dumbest thing that you have ever heard.

696
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: Three one seven five two three ninety two eighty eight.

697
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: Correct, three one seven five two three ninety two eighty eight.

698
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: Tell me if this is the dumbest thing you've ever heard.

699
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: I am like the Pacers. To me, that run was

700
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: special and I'll remember it for a long time and

701
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't need to revisit with for everybody. What for

702
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: me personally and people in this town that meant and

703
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: for me for it to recapture my sports fandom. And

704
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: it had been a long time since I was that

705
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: invested emotionally in a team. And I'm the first admitted

706
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: guilty is charged and I put my professionalism to the

707
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: side and just said I am all in as a

708
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: fan and I loved everything about that run except for

709
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: the way that it ended. But even then, as I

710
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: talked about the next day, I chose to actually reflect

711
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: upon the things that we were afforded as opposed to

712
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: the things that we were denied. Okay, there is a

713
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: part of me. We've all had moments that were special.

714
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: I remember my twentieth year high school reunion. All of

715
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: my buddies came back into town. We went to my parents'

716
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: house like we had done on graduation night. We reenacted

717
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: the photo of our graduation night in the backyard in

718
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: the same spot. We went to the reunion and saw

719
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: people we hadn't seen forever. Everybody was on their a game,

720
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: every joke landed, every for everyone. It was a special

721
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: night and therefore we couldn't wait till the twenty fifth

722
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: and five years later we went to that one and

723
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: it was fun, but it's like we were chasing that

724
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: twentieth and it just there was so much promise about it,

725
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: and then it was like it was cool but not.

726
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: We can't replicate what was the magic the first time.

727
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: And part of me with the Pacers opening up against

728
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma City Thunder. Last year was so special and

729
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: so much fun, and you keep forgetting that Tyree Halliburton's

730
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: not going to be available for a year. So you

731
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: get excited about the upcoming season, like, let's one more half,

732
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: and then you're like, oh, gosh, I forgot. Halliburton's not

733
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: playing and Turner's not there, and the team's gonna look

734
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: different and we'll see you know, and this is a

735
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: gap year and whatever else. And just when you start

736
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: to absorb that hard part about it, there's part of

737
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: me that is almost reluctant to open the year up.

738
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: And it is bittersweet, and it leaves a bad taste

739
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: in my mouth for it to open up against Oklahoma City,

740
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: because if they win that game, you're going to say

741
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: to yourself, oh my gosh, it's cool. They want it now.

742
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: But if they just I mean one half, they were

743
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: a half away, and it almost makes it it's almost

744
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: too soon, does that make sense? It's too soon Oklahoma

745
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: City and they're not some bitter rival, but just the

746
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: excitement and the anticipation and the build up and the

747
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: promise and the and all of it that goes into

748
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: the fact that they were so close and we just

749
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: need time to kind of ease into next year without

750
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: two of the big players being involved anyway, and we're

751
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: going to be forced to immediately relive right back into it.

752
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: And while I should be excited and I should be grateful,

753
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: and I should be optimistic, and I'm all of those things,

754
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: but I'm worried that it's just going to be weird?

755
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: Am I the only one that sees it that way?

756
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: Am I the only one that sees that? As? Yeah,

757
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: can we just maybe have slid that in like in

758
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: mid December. I'm happy to have a primetime, nationally televised

759
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: game for the Pacers to open the season, but could

760
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: we maybe have done it against Milwaukee or against Cleveland

761
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: or Boston and not necessarily immediate Lee be harpened back

762
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: to what could have been? But again, I'm going to

763
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: focus not on what could have been, but on what was.

764
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: And it was a special run. But I was curious

765
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: if I was the old one that felt that way.

766
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: Stephanie White, by the way, Fever and Action Tonight, Stephanie

767
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: White joins us next. Okay, we have good news and

768
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: bad news here in our visit with head coach of

769
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: the Fever, Stephanie White Fever in Action tonight taken on Dallas.

770
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: They have won, coming back snapping a two game skid

771
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: with their win over the weekend with Chicago seven thirty

772
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: tonight against Dallas. And here's the good news, Eddie. The

773
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: good news is when I asked coach Stephanie White what

774
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: music she'd like to hear, we got her off the country.

775
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: That's the good news, right. The bad news is she

776
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: went with that song.

777
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: What do you have against that song?

778
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 5: Come on now?

779
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, like I like the genre, I just don't

780
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: like that particular song. So Stephanie White joining us now? Obviously, Stephanie,

781
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: that's a song of your liking?

782
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: Correct?

783
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: Is there a history with that song?

784
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I'm an I'm a nineties child,

785
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: so I used to listen to Black Street. I'm sure

786
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 4: I'm showing my versatility too, Okay, what we've been on

787
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: a on a country kick lately. But I was, you know,

788
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 4: I was like, let me, let's go back, let's bring

789
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 4: it back to the nineties. And They're a number that

790
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 4: ran through my head and that one was the top

791
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 4: of the list.

792
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: So true story. Yesterday, someone comes up to me and

793
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: says and sings to me. They said, oh, by the way,

794
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: I saw you walking down the hall, and I'm thinking,

795
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: where did they see me walking in the hall? And

796
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: then they said, I'm just kidding. That's a line from

797
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: an Oasis song. And I know that you went to

798
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: go see them, because how did Stephanie White not know Oasis?

799
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, see, exactly so I And then

800
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: the thing that most stunned me is that meant that

801
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: somebody besides my mom was listening to the radio show, right,

802
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: which I was thrilled about. Right, Hey, I want to

803
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: begin with and obviously one of the topics of conversation

804
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: is going to be talking about the latest signing for

805
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: the Fever. But before we go there, Coach, I want

806
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: to talk about, and I mean this with all sincerity,

807
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: the cool signings that you guys did. And I don't

808
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: mean Odyssey Simms because we're going to get to that,

809
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: but I thought it was absolutely fabulous. I know it's

810
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: not new or unique to the franchise. I think you

811
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: guys have done it before, but to be able to

812
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: sign not one, not two, but five new members of

813
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: the Fever as part of the special Olympics Indiana that

814
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: you guys did yesterday, I thought was awesome and I

815
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: would assume for you that had to be as much

816
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 1: a privilege of anything that you do over the course

817
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: of the basketball season.

818
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: It absolutely was. And to to see these young women

819
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 4: come in and watch practice and the signing of the

820
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: contracts after practice, and their excitement and our team's excitement

821
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 4: and welcome, welcome, welcoming them into our team and into

822
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: our family, it was I mean, you know, everything that

823
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: we do certainly is is is about basketball. But but

824
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: but most things that we do are are bigger than basketball,

825
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: and that was certainly one of them. And the impact

826
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 4: that you can make in the lives of others is

827
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 4: top of the list. And it really was a cool experience.

828
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 3: You know.

829
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: So obviously, from the roster standpoint for you guys, Odyssey

830
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: Simms is a player and I hate to say signed

831
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: to a hardship contract because it makes it sound like

832
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: it was some sort of a charitable thing. It's not that.

833
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 1: It's the fact that you guys were from a standpoint

834
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: of roster limit, et cetera. You had a unique situation

835
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: in the fact that two players went down. We'll get

836
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: to that. But in terms of Odyssey Simms, when you

837
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: lose two players and you've got to go out and

838
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: get a point guard, was it a factor for you.

839
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: This is a player in Odyssey Simms, who has been

840
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: a very good player in the WNBA and plays the

841
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: position of need in distributing the basketball. But one of

842
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: the things I found interesting and I wanted to know

843
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: if this was a factor in the selection of her,

844
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 1: is this is not unique to her either. And by

845
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: that I mean the challenge of joining a team in

846
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: the middle of the season and just kind of being

847
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: air dropped into the fray. She has experience with that.

848
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: Is that something that also factors in to making this

849
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: an easier transition?

850
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 4: It absolutely is. She's She hasn't had experience with this.

851
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 4: She is a plug and play type of player who

852
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: can come in and and and make play for herself,

853
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: make plays for others, pick up on offenses, you know,

854
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: really quickly. She adds a dimension that we need. And

855
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 4: you know, one of the things when we added Aarry

856
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 4: McDonald was she gave us another player who can get downhill,

857
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 4: who can get to the rim, who can play with speed,

858
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 4: and Odyssey Simms can do those things as well and

859
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: having a compliment to Casey and somebody else that you

860
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 4: can put the ball in her hands to make a

861
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 4: play wasn't for us. And Odyssey Sims is somebody who

862
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 4: has been in this situation off and on throughout her

863
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 4: career in this league. She's a scorer, she's a playmaker,

864
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 4: and seemed like an ideal fit for the situation that

865
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: we're in.

866
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: Which is coach from a coaching standpoint, which which sometimes

867
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: can be a bigger challenge keeping everybody like focused and

868
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: morale high when you're not playing well and you guys

869
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: have gone through you know, periods of that this year,

870
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: or trying to keep everybody together and focused on the

871
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: end goal when you have two really important pieces go

872
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: down to injuries, so you know, and McDonald and Sydney

873
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: Colson and just knowing what that means for their teammates,

874
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: you know.

875
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 4: I think they each present challenges probably, you know, when

876
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: you're struggling and you may or you may not be

877
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 4: playing up to your potential, or you're going through some

878
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: tough times you know, on the floor. I think that

879
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: is more challenging because you have the pieces and you

880
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 4: just got to get it together, you know, And I

881
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 4: think now the situation that we're in, it's it's challenging

882
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 4: in its own way, you know. But but I think

883
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 4: each situation lends itself to really just the type of

884
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: people that we have on our team. Like we have

885
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: a very strong culture, we have a very connected and

886
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: resilient group. They they rise to the occasion when when

887
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 4: when we face adversity, and they pull together when we

888
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 4: face adversity, and and all of those things are important.

889
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 4: And we've seen it through the course of different situations

890
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 4: that we've been in, through through injury and roster changes

891
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: and all of that. And we've seen it when we've

892
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 4: gone through some slumps and some slides, just just navigating

893
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 4: and finding our way. It's a it's a mentally tough group,

894
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 4: and and and and they they have.

895
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 6: Continued to to stay together. They've continued to stay the course,

896
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 6: and they've continued to put one foot in front of

897
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 6: the other and be where their feet are and and

898
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 6: all of.

899
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 4: Those things matter, and all of those things are the

900
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: reason that we're in the position that we're in.

901
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: I've always marveled Stephanie White is our guest head coach

902
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: of the Fever. They're in action tonight taken on Dallas

903
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: seven thirty tip. I've always marveled coach at professional athletes

904
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: at their spec and I think I noticed this from

905
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: a media standpoint, from a football standpoint of talking to

906
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: players and hearing them start to speak in a jargon

907
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: that was complex, it was a foreign language to me,

908
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: and realizing the intellect capacity that goes into elite level

909
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: athlete of understanding the nuances of offenses and complexities that

910
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: go into it. In the basketball standpoint, how long typically

911
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: does it take a player to learn a playbook, so

912
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: to speak? Or in reality, is everybody kind of running

913
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: the same sets but just under kind of different disguise.

914
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think anymore of the

915
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 4: set is just what creates the spacing, and it's actions

916
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 4: within the spacing, and and and most teams are running

917
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: similar actions. It's it's it's just positioning on the floor,

918
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 4: spacing you know, where you where, you manipulate and maneuver

919
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 4: to create the most spacing, to get people in there

920
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: in their sweet so to speak, to to use their

921
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 4: innate abilities, and and so I think all things are

922
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 4: very similar, you know. I think for us, how we

923
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 4: do things defensively sometimes can be a little bit outside

924
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 4: the norm. You know, some some things can be and

925
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 4: and more than anything, it's it's it's burbage and and

926
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 4: and language and terminology and all of those things that

927
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 4: are better different. So when you're acclimating a player, it's

928
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 4: about terminology, you know, when you're when you're implementing systems

929
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 4: like for our system, you know, offensively, defensively, you know,

930
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 4: we're we're we're probably only gonna be at level one

931
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 4: throughout the course of of of this year. You know,

932
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 4: it's it's it's being able to get to that next

933
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 4: level once you have familiarity with it and in the

934
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 4: next level reads next level actions. You know, year one

935
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: is is is putting in the base level, and then

936
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: you're you know, the years beyond that, two, three, whatever

937
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 4: it may be, is is continuing to dive deeper into

938
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 4: the more nuanced aspects of what we do. So, you know,

939
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 4: I think for us, the ability to implement new players

940
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 4: is mostly about terminology and about what we do on

941
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: the defensive end.

942
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: How much of a play at the WNBA level in

943
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: an offensive possession in a half court Okay, how often

944
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: is a is it just one play that's designed and

945
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: then if the defense takes that away, then it's up

946
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: to everybody to just kind of free flow react to it.

947
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: Or does a play have an immediate alternate play where

948
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 1: everyone on the floor knows, okay, if we're going away

949
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: from that original action, now we're into play B that

950
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: is matched with that one as the alternate. How often

951
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: are you doing a designed set versus immediately going into

952
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: a free flow You're so.

953
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 4: Old school with your play verbage, your play terminology.

954
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: How'm old school about everything?

955
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 4: I am too, except for the music apparently apparently, Well

956
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: you're old school like eighties.

957
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm you know, listen, we can drop the school. I'm old.

958
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: Let's just go with old No, you know.

959
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: It really for us, it's it's about actions and how

960
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 4: teams play us determines the action. And so if we

961
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 4: make a pass to a wing, for example, based on

962
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 4: how a team is playing us, that can lead to

963
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 4: two or three different actions. So if somebody is jumping

964
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 4: to the ball, that can lead to one thing. If

965
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 4: somebody is keeping us from coming off of a handoff,

966
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 4: that can lead to another thing. Or if we reverse

967
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 4: it to the middle of the floor and we got

968
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 4: a match up that we like it can lead to

969
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 4: a faith screen versus a pin down, or it can

970
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 4: lead to a driple handoff versus an on ball screen.

971
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 1: So it's a matter of making sure, is it not, then, coach,

972
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: that all five players know exactly what the instinctive reaction

973
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: of motion is, right, Yeah, it is, and.

974
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 4: And or being able to play off of the initial

975
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 4: the initial cutters action. Right. So it's like, you know,

976
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 4: if somebody, if Caitlin, for example, makes a pass to

977
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 4: ab in the middle of the floor, and she comes

978
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 4: off her handoff, then that signifies one thing. If she

979
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: receives a faith screen, that signifies another screen thing. If

980
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 4: she cuts it, that signifies the next action.

981
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and that to me is what is amazing.

982
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: Is I think that we don't give players enough credit

983
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: for the I'm gonna say muscle memory for lack of

984
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: a better phrase, but just the natural fluidity of all

985
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: of that happening before our eyes. I think people think

986
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: that the players just go out and you roll the

987
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: ball out and it's like, let's go, and it is

988
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: just so much more nuanced than that.

989
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think you can see when that when

990
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 4: when when those things happen, and it's it's let go,

991
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 4: let's go instead of instead of flow, you see over dribbling, right,

992
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 4: you see a lot standing. And those are moments that happen,

993
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. They happen when there's a decision.

994
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 4: They happen when when when maybe you freeze when defenses

995
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 4: do a couple of different things. I mean, most most

996
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 4: teams are going to be good enough defensive teams to

997
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 4: force you into second and third actions, and the great

998
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 4: defensive teams force you to get the ball, you know,

999
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 4: from baseline to baseline in the half court with with

1000
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 4: with with fourti five actions, and so you know, I

1001
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 4: think that the the nuanced part of it is what

1002
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 4: takes the time. Right, you can get the obvious part,

1003
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 4: and for the casual fan, the obvious is is what

1004
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 4: they expect and the obvious is what they see. But

1005
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 4: in order to get to the nuanced part of it,

1006
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 4: which most really good teams are going to force you

1007
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 4: to get to, it takes time.

1008
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: So when you have an odyssey sims on the floor

1009
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: who is new to what you're trying to do, those

1010
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: those actions instead of say three or four options, how

1011
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: much do you have to then kind of simplify things

1012
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: down towards just running like say, a routine that she

1013
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: would be accustomed to.

1014
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say you definitely. Do you know one one,

1015
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 4: one to two actions, you know, two to three sets

1016
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 4: that are going to fit what she does, that create

1017
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: the spacing to allow her to do what she does best.

1018
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, the the thing that you want

1019
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 4: to do as a coach is you want you want

1020
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 4: to allow players to play to their instincts. So you know,

1021
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 4: the sets that we run on the floor in different

1022
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: areas of spacing might be different with certain players.

1023
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 7: You see it.

1024
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 4: We're different with Caitlyn off the floor than we are

1025
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 4: with when she's on the floor with some of the

1026
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 4: things that we run, some of the steps that we run,

1027
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 4: and they'll be different, different for odysty And our goal

1028
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 4: is to simplify it to her, to give her, you know,

1029
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 4: three to four things that she can run with one

1030
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 4: of two actions within those those those things that she

1031
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 4: can run that allow her to be her best and

1032
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 4: allow her to help our team be our best.

1033
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: Hey, how are Aaron McDonald and Sidney Coolson doing? And

1034
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't mean that physically, I just mean with the

1035
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: disappointment psychologically of being out.

1036
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, I'm not going to

1037
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 4: speak for them, but as someone who has gone through

1038
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,959
Speaker 4: injury and the different types of injuries that they're going through,

1039
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 4: you know, I think the biggest thing is it is disappointing.

1040
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 4: It is gut wrenching because number one, you're taking away

1041
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 4: something that you love to do. Number Two, as an

1042
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: injured athlete, you miss some of the things that make

1043
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,479
Speaker 4: being a part of a team great. It can be

1044
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 4: so isolating. You know, you're going through the rehab process,

1045
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 4: you're at different point in your career. You know, you're

1046
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 4: both with a new team and and and feeling really

1047
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 4: great about your situation, and so I can imagine it's

1048
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 4: it's it's unnerving, it's heartbreaking, you know. And then, as

1049
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 4: as most athletes do, you you have to turn the

1050
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 4: page to to the to the what's next, and the rehab,

1051
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: the the surgeries, and then then then the rehab after

1052
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: that and getting yourself back to to to being to

1053
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 4: being an the athlete right that you were and that

1054
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 4: you are. And there's so so many steps to that process.

1055
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 4: And so you know, we just continue to hold them

1056
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 4: close and continue to pour into them like they do

1057
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 4: to us, and continue to encourage them and be there

1058
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 4: for them.

1059
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: Coach. Last week, uh, we chatted about just like the

1060
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: togetherness and the overall love that this team has for

1061
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: one another. I know oftentimes you talk about Sophie cutting

1062
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: am and your ability on the floor, but how much

1063
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 2: is she meant to just the locker room presence of

1064
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: her off the court this year?

1065
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 6: She's she is.

1066
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 4: I mean, she's an energy giver. She's someone who who

1067
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 4: is a genuinely happy person. She's a connector. You know,

1068
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: she understands, you know, how to bring people together. She

1069
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 4: understands how to keep people together. You know when to

1070
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 4: when to to to push different buttons, so to speak,

1071
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 4: and when we need kind of to sharpen up. And

1072
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 4: from a from a leadership standpoint, you know, she does

1073
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 4: not not just the obvious things, but a lot of

1074
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 4: the intangibles. And she's a glue person in our locker room.

1075
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 4: You know, she's she's just a naturally you know, giving person.

1076
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 4: And I think that when you have connectors on your

1077
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 4: team like that. And not to mention, she's a high

1078
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 4: i Q player. She can play multiple positions. It helps

1079
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 4: it helps keep people together. I mean, she's a she's

1080
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 4: a big reason why this group has has been so

1081
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 4: resilient and and she she does hold hold us all

1082
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 4: together at times?

1083
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: How pleased were you, not just from a coaching standpoint,

1084
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: but just from a basketball standpoint of seeing you know,

1085
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: in the Chicago game, and notably Kelsey Mitchell I guess

1086
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: Sophie to an extent as well, but players having to

1087
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: kind of step outside normal role or normal comfort zone

1088
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: of what they do offensively to fill the void until

1089
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: you were able to go out obviously and ultimately get

1090
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: Caitlin back. We'll get to that and then sign Odyssey sims.

1091
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: But for players to step into areas that might not

1092
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: be their norm, for you to be able to.

1093
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: Watch that, it's huge, you know, and it's it makes

1094
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 4: us as coaches really proud, you know. I think the

1095
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 4: challenge is you don't want people to think that they

1096
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 4: have to do everything right. It's like, if everybody can give,

1097
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 4: you know, one percent more, if everybody can can can

1098
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 4: take one percent more responsibility, uh, you know, and you

1099
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 4: don't want to because Kelsey and Natasha Howard specifically, those

1100
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 4: two have been really in such good grooves. Uh, you

1101
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 4: want to allow them to continue to play through their strengths.

1102
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 4: And not have to to outside of you know, a

1103
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 4: comfort zone and instinct and all of that. And so

1104
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: you know, you adjust and and and run things a

1105
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 4: little bit more through Sophie, run things a little bit

1106
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 4: more through a b which we've been doing most of

1107
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 4: the season anyway, that still allows Kelsey and Natosh specifically

1108
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 4: to do what they do best, and and and and

1109
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 4: and it's not significant outside of your your comfort zone,

1110
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 4: right It's hey, let's let's grab one of two more rebounds,

1111
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 4: you know, let's get paint touches one or two more

1112
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 4: times within a single possession the ball move, you know,

1113
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 4: instead of one second basketball, it's got to bo point

1114
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 4: five basketball. You know, Hey, let's let's dig in as

1115
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: far as you know, one or two different defensive coverages.

1116
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 4: I was just really pleased with that and and and

1117
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 4: for our players to step outside their comfort zone with

1118
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 4: the zone that we played, and to adapt to it

1119
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 4: so quickly and you know, be able to to communicate

1120
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 4: and and have activity level on the defensive end of

1121
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 4: the floor. You know, that was the biggest challenge and

1122
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 4: biggest change for us, was what we did on the

1123
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 4: defensive end of the floor. And and they were outstanding.

1124
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I just I continue to I know every

1125
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,439
Speaker 4: time it sounds a little cheesy every time on the show,

1126
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 4: but I continue to be just so proud of this

1127
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 4: group and their flexibility and they're resilience.

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01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to list for you the top ten

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01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: musical selling artists of the nineties. I want you to

1130
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: tell me if nineties Stephanie White was listening to them

1131
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: driving around, you're right at it? Yes, Shania Twain.

1132
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got it.

1133
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: Yes, Madonna, yes, Backstreet Boys.

1134
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 4: Yes, Backstreet Boys, uh huh?

1135
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: Metallica right now? Tallica though, okay, Michael Jackson.

1136
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 4: Yes, Michael Jackson, Nirvana some Nirvana, Whitney Houston, yes, absolutely,

1137
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 4: Garth Brooks.

1138
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: We covered that one.

1139
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 7: Mariah Carey, Mariah Carey, Yes.

1140
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: Would you like to guess number one? Listen. It's a

1141
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: little bit unfair because I feel like it's one big

1142
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: song from this artist that catapulted them to number one.

1143
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 4: But go ahead, Yeah, that has to be Shania Twain.

1144
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,959
Speaker 1: Now, Shania Twain was ten. But I think here's a hint.

1145
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: I think of this person like in the same grouping

1146
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: as Shania Twain. You do, yes, like not necessarily like literally,

1147
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: I feel like It's like if we're talking like Cheryl Swoops,

1148
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: Cheryl Miller, Synthey, like like same era players here right,

1149
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: like kind of same genre music in my opinion, because

1150
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: I think it's Shania Twain. Here's a dumb question, is

1151
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: should I a Twain Canadian?

1152
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 4: She is?

1153
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I believe this artist is also Canadian, and I

1154
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: think that's where I'm lumping them.

1155
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 3: In my head.

1156
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,479
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I have no idea.

1157
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: Who Celine Dion?

1158
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 3: Oh?

1159
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 4: Okay?

1160
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 3: Yes?

1161
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 4: And I love Peline Dion. I saw blin in Vegas?

1162
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: Did you really? Did she just sing that Titanic song

1163
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: for two and a half hours? And then least?

1164
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 4: She has a lot of great songs. I saw her

1165
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 4: in Nashville as well, a number of years ago.

1166
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: Okay, you do, Okay. I think we might have discussed

1167
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: this one before. Hoody in the Blowfish. Yeah, yeah, yay, yay,

1168
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: Hoody Okay, that's our next one, Eddie Hoody in the Blowfish,

1169
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: Hoody in the Blowfish. Next, And I promise next time

1170
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: I mentioned the picket fence when asking about offenses.

1171
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1172
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: I got to get more in the New score, rightw Yes,

1173
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:18,959
Speaker 1: you do try to step out of the nineties. That's

1174
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: exactly right. Just knock this one down, don't pay attention,

1175
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: and we'll go.

1176
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 3: All the way.

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01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: That's right, Coach, appreciate it tonight seven thirty against Dallas.

1178
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: Best of luck. Always appreciate the conversation. Thank you all right,

1179
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: stefinitiely White joining us on the program here again. Eddie

1180
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: will be on the pregame for you at seven thirty.

1181
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, we did get the answer. I

1182
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: do believe, by the way, Eddie that in terms of

1183
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: the question as to whether or not now because they

1184
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: have signed Odyssey Sims to the Hardship contract, whether or

1185
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: not that means they would have to release her once

1186
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Clark comes back and there is no status I

1187
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: should have asked that there is no update on Kaitlyn

1188
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: Clark not yet practicing, so things are status quo there,

1189
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: and Stephanie White had made that clear yesterday. But because

1190
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: there are two players they lost and you have Odyssey

1191
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: Sims and then Caitlin Clark, I think that still keeps

1192
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: him at the same number. Right, They're good in that regard.

1193
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't believe that she would have to be released

1194
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: because to out two in I.

1195
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: Don't think so, I think, yeah, I think you're right,

1196
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: but I'm not humersentry.

1197
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's correct too. Out and two in

1198
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: Steven Hold are going to join us two o'clock. We

1199
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: mentioned the Colts. They have a bit of a situation

1200
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: that you could say, is you know, obviously, anytime you

1201
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: have attrition on the roster, it's a negative, but there

1202
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 1: is a silver lining. There's a potential positive that could

1203
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: come from that. And if you think about outside right now,

1204
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: it's still nice out right. We're landlocked, but I believe

1205
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: it's still a beautiful day outside, is it not. We

1206
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: don't have a window here, but.

1207
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: Atys six and mostly cloudy according to my phone. Cloudy,

1208
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: mostly cloudy according to.

1209
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: My phone, but but not raining, right, that is true.

1210
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: If you take the eighty six degrees you subtract, we'll

1211
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: subtract twenty eight degrees from that, Okay, it puts us

1212
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: at what fifty eight? Right, we'll take away the clouds,

1213
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: and so it's sunny fifty eight and sunny. That'd be

1214
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: freezing right now. But if it's mid March, that's a

1215
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: beautiful day. Windows roll down. One of those days where

1216
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: I tell you that we're gonna play nothing but songs

1217
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: of bounce back, songs that are rolled down the window

1218
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: type music that we love that spring fever, you know,

1219
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: Summer's around the corner feel, right or or for that matter,

1220
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: spring is arrived feel. And if you think about right now,

1221
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: what that feels like, what that smells like, what that

1222
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: looks like. It's Selection Sunday. It's the week leading up

1223
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: to the greatest weekend in sports, the opening week of

1224
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament and Selection Sunday. And it's very hard

1225
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: right now to remember what that feels and smells like.

1226
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: But for the colts, Selection Sunday kind of plays into

1227
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: their roster, which I mentioned earlier, and we will go

1228
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: back over that again.

1229
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: On the other side.

1230
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: Okay, nothing but nineties hits the rest of the day, Eddie,

1231
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: Is that what we're doing? I guess this song. I

1232
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: will admit to you this this is not unlike the

1233
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: one hundred mile song or five hundred mile song once.

1234
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: This is a turn up song for me. I will

1235
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: admit I really yes.

1236
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: So whenesday next time you're in the car with track dude,

1237
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: Michaele Young.

1238
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for mentioning him, because did you hear

1239
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: what happened to him over the weekend. No, let me

1240
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: tell you if I'm track dude, Michael Young to answer

1241
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: your question, the next time I will be in the

1242
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: car with him, will be in Milwaukee. What makes you.

1243
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: Ask play that song for him? Doesn't like that song?

1244
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: He just playing for him? Well he may do. What

1245
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: when I tell you, in about eight minutes what happened

1246
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: to him over the weekend, You're gonna see him in

1247
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: a totally different light.

1248
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: Now, is this in eight minutes because that's how long's

1249
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: going to take you explain her? Or in eight minutes,

1250
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 2: that's because when you're actually gonna tell me the ladder? Okay,

1251
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: but noted on the sarcasm. Okay. The Colts have a

1252
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: situation with the cornerback room. Corner back room. We've talked

1253
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 2: plenty about the quarter back room. I mean they have

1254
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: a situation there too, right.

1255
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: They do.

1256
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: But in the cornerback position, that was one that we

1257
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: felt pretty good about going into the year. You know

1258
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: they I remember a year ago when Chris Ballard sat

1259
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: there and said, I like our young guys at this position,

1260
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: but we got to see them play. I've got to

1261
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 1: see them play to know truly what I have fair point, Okay,

1262
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: fair point. And he got pretty criticized because it didn't

1263
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: necessarily work out for him because they again last year

1264
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: attritionan you know, reared at Tugley Head and et cetera.

1265
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: But he went out to his credit, you know, you

1266
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: get ward, you go out from a defensive back standpoint.

1267
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: You signed cam by them, and they shored up in

1268
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: a lot of ways the areas that we had wanted

1269
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: them to shore up. You already had. Jalen Jones, I

1270
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: do like Juju Brents. You know that they they had

1271
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: some depth there. And then of course, obviously you know

1272
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore goes without saying I mean, you know, you

1273
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: know what Kenny Moore can do with the nickel, and

1274
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: and now you you have a situation where Jalen Jones

1275
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: is hurt, Juju Brents is hurt, Kenny Moore is now hurt.

1276
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: None of these appear to be anything that's going to

1277
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: go really deep into the season, But you don't know.

1278
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: Nick Cross is a guy that you're still I think

1279
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: they see a lot of promise in, but you're waiting

1280
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: to see exactly who is Hunter Wallert looks like he's

1281
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: going to be a player, So they have some depth there,

1282
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: but that attrition and the possibility of not only having

1283
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: to move somebody up, you know, and whether that may

1284
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: be for example, Jonathan Edwards, who's an undrafted free agent

1285
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 1: and it's right behind Jalen Jones. He's pushing Jalen Jones

1286
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. Jalen Jones gets hurt, so john and

1287
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: Edwards now suddenly is a guy that maybe you look

1288
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: at as a fringe roster player, and you're now at

1289
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: a situation where you basically have to look into and

1290
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: he might have made the roster anyway, but now it's

1291
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: almost a certainty he makes the roster, not only because

1292
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: you may need to play right away, but also because

1293
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: you clearly need insurance at that position. Now, where this

1294
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: fits into selection Sunday comparison with the NCAA tournament is this,

1295
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: if you look at other areas where the Colts had

1296
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 1: luxury of depth and guys that they liked. Jelannie Woods

1297
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 1: is the I heard Kevin mentioned this this morning. I

1298
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 1: thought it was a very good point with the Jeelani Woods.

1299
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: If Jeelanni Woods is a player, if the Coults are

1300
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: looking at the tight end situation like, Okay, you know

1301
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren obviously, right. Then they they like moley Cox

1302
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: because of his blocking ability. They like Drew Ogletree because

1303
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: of kind of his combo of the two. And then

1304
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: Will Mallory has had not only a really good camp,

1305
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: but I think when reps have been thrown his way

1306
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: in regular season play, he's been good. So you have

1307
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: those four. Now, Jalanni Woods is interesting because he's a

1308
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: big target. He seemingly was a more a slightly more

1309
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: athletic Moley Cox, and he has missed two years due

1310
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: to injury, and they've waited all that time. Clearly there's

1311
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: something there that they either really like or were really

1312
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: intrigued by. And now that he's healthy, let's say he's

1313
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: won that for that reason, they're like, we're gonna go

1314
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: ahead and go five tight ends. We're gonna keep five

1315
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: tight ends on the roster. Well, this is where selection

1316
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:40,839
Speaker 1: Sunday comes in, because a Jonathan Edwards or a corner

1317
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: that you now need for the sake of either depth

1318
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: or just insurance, or because you aren't gonna release one

1319
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: of your guys that's hurt. That's a big stealer, that's

1320
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: a roster spot Steeler. That literally is eighteen and twelve

1321
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: Samford surprisingly winning their league and denying a thirty two

1322
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: and three team in automatic, and so then a Jelanie

1323
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: Woods or even at the running back position, and I

1324
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 1: know running back, I mean they are obviously very good

1325
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: there with Jonathan Taylor and then Tyler Goodson. I think

1326
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: we can safely says the backup, and you probably go

1327
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 1: three and you keep DJ Giddens, who you know has

1328
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 1: shown promises a rookie, and then me personally the guy

1329
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: that I think should be starting, ulyssas Bentley the fourth.

1330
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: Not it's it's it's why Jake, Well, yeah, you list

1331
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: Bentley as a matter of fact, I'm understanding the young

1332
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: lad just bought new traps just for the event. But

1333
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 1: but the you look at that at that situation though,

1334
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: like if you were going to go three backs, for example,

1335
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: and now you've got to go with an extra corner,

1336
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: is that a bid Steeler. It effect, you could look

1337
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: at it and say they have the luxury of depth

1338
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: at corner to offset these injuries or this attrition, except

1339
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 1: for what it's doing is it's potentially denying you depth elsewhere.

1340
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that you where you know Jelannie Woods. Now,

1341
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: like I said, I think he's in real trouble here.

1342
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he would have made the roster

1343
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: in general, but you know, even a Will Mallory, I mean,

1344
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: I think you go four tight ends. But but it

1345
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 1: just depends on when this happens, how far that Where

1346
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 1: do you make up the space elsewhere it's going to happen.

1347
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 1: And there are others, but you know, the line is

1348
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: another area. Right now, they're pretty healthy line wise, but

1349
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 1: what if you get an injury or two there, and

1350
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you have somebody that you

1351
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: thought was probably on the outside looking in, and you've

1352
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: got to bring them along. You got to bring them

1353
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: to the party.

1354
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: Now, Jake, I've been around you too long. I get

1355
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: over the forty in now and everything. I you know,

1356
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: I look too far into things.

1357
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm guilty of that at all.

1358
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: And when I when I listen to whatever, it's you know,

1359
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 2: Shane Stichen or it's Jim Bob Cooter, and they asked

1360
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 2: about the tight ends. The one guy they always failed

1361
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: to mention, Jolanni Woods. Like they'll say, oh, like they'll

1362
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: talk about Mo. They'll talk about Drew, they'll talk about

1363
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: Will Mallory, they'll talk obviously talk about Tyler. But the

1364
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 2: one guy they always failed to mention is Johnnie Woods.

1365
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 2: Is that me reading too far into it that?

1366
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 3: No?

1367
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: I think there's probably, unfortunately for Jolannie Woods, something to

1368
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: be said there and.

1369
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 2: Not to mention, like with him being so injury riddle

1370
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 2: in his career, Like is he at the point where

1371
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: you can maybe let him go and stash him on

1372
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: the practice squad? Or because I would think of the

1373
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 2: two between Jelani Woods and Will Mallory, I don't think, uh,

1374
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: will Mallory would make it to the practice squad. I

1375
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: think somebody else would pick him up.

1376
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I agree with that. I think Will Mallory's safe.

1377
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: I think he's done enough here. Now. Somebody asked a

1378
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: good question here, Could the Colts grab a linebacker from

1379
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: the league roster cuts? I think absolutely. I mean there

1380
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: are going to be surprised releases or or guys that

1381
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: they really like. And yes, that's the other thing when

1382
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: the roster first, when you first find a set roster,

1383
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, you have to then look at that,

1384
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 1: like the Colts roster, the fifty three man. Once it's finalized,

1385
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: the last two or three are always in jeopardy, right

1386
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: because somebody all of a sudden gets released elsewhere in

1387
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 1: a position to need and they're like, you know what, boom,

1388
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: we got to get that guy. There's our there's there's

1389
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: a linebacker a depth, or there's a receiver death. But linebacker, now,

1390
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: linebacker is an interesting spot because it does feel like

1391
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: it has become the like me with offensive verbage, a

1392
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: little more old school, right is the linebacker is linebacker

1393
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: today's running back?

1394
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 2: It just doesn't feel like lou Anarrimo values.

1395
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: That position all with his speak, because I would agree

1396
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: with that and and and in football in general today, Eddie,

1397
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: do you remember three or four years ago, the literally

1398
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 1: the most common talking point amongst the NFL was that

1399
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: the running back could become a passe position. And you

1400
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: wonder if linebacker is not that right now? I mean remember,

1401
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: I mean just not even like ten years ago. You

1402
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 1: were talking about Patrick will As, You're talking about Ray

1403
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: Lewis and some of those like Brian Urlocker, some of

1404
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: like the greatest faces of the of their teams. Right, yeah, hey, Jake,

1405
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks do they keep three.

1406
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 2: Ooh, you think you think Raley Leonard would make the

1407
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 2: fifty three?

1408
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: Well no, don't they get they but I'm sorry, they

1409
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 1: get the one that goes onto the practice squad and

1410
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: it is there are a lot like the emergency quarterback

1411
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: situation or whatever that's it'll be, okay, that's what But

1412
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: he is he is in front of Jason Bean for sure.

1413
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I don't think Jason Bean's getting consistent reps

1414
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 2: at all because he didn't play in that preseason game

1415
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: against Baltimore last week.

1416
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I don't wish for any

1417
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 1: player to be released in the NFL, and they're gonna

1418
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 1: make good money regardless of whatever else. I don't wish

1419
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: for anyone to get hurt in the NFL or any sport.

1420
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 1: But as difficult as some things may be in sports,

1421
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: I don't think anything is more difficult than what happened

1422
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: to Michael Young. Track, dude, Michael Young, When I tell

1423
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 1: you what happened to him, Eddie, when I tell you what,

1424
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: I would like for you to make a list of

1425
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:29,440
Speaker 1: what you aside from physical harm, okay or you know, brutality.

1426
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: If you were to aside from physical harm that's easiest

1427
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 1: way to say it. What happened to Michael Young yesterday

1428
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: is the worst thing that can happen to a human.

1429
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: It was yesterday, It was yes He came back yesterday.

1430
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: I came back on a red eye. He came back

1431
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: yesterday early in the morning. When I tell you next

1432
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: what it is, you are going to agree with me

1433
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: and say, that's the worst thing I've heard. Okay, Okay,

1434
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: we'll do it next. So I think most people know

1435
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: in radio locally of track dude, Michael Young. I think

1436
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: he's been on with John several times. And you know,

1437
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,440
Speaker 1: great dude, I mean, just an awesome teammate, awesome coworker,

1438
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: fun guy. Michael does turn number two for the Indy

1439
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 1: five hundred and I do turn number three. And he works,

1440
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 1: you know with us on IndyCar radio. I work with

1441
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: him on IndyCar Radio. And so he is not I am,

1442
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 1: and he is not. I'm a red eye guy. Like

1443
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: when a race is over with the race begins for

1444
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 1: me to get home, and Michael's more of a hey,

1445
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: I want to sleep, get a good night's sleep. I'll

1446
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 1: fly back the next day kind of guy. Totally cool.

1447
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: So I came back from Portland on the red Eye

1448
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Michael went ahead and stayed the night in

1449
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: Portland and came back on Monday afternoon. And so I,

1450
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: you know, yesterday do the show and just kind of

1451
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: doing my deal, right, And I happened to see like

1452
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 1: a notice on Facebook or something from Michael Young. Okay, well,

1453
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 1: I'll check this out and see what Michael's up to.

1454
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: You know, I hadn't talked to him yet. He sends

1455
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: the following. Now, remember I told you, Eddie that when

1456
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: I was coming back and I was getting ready to

1457
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: board the plane, somebody noticed that I had a nick

1458
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 1: in my leg and it was geysering blood because I'm

1459
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: on the blood thinners, right, oh no, And I had

1460
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: like I told you about this, right, and I had

1461
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: the napkins and I'm wiping them down. And then I

1462
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: had a band aid on my arm because they had

1463
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: a bruise that was embarrassing. This is what you have

1464
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: to look forward to once you're on the thinners. And

1465
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: so I took the band aid off of my arm,

1466
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: dealt with people seeing the bruise, and moved the band

1467
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: aid over to the nick on my leg. And then

1468
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 1: I thought I wonder if I can board the plane

1469
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: if I've got like blood on my leg and so

1470
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: they didn't see it, but I mean I got it

1471
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: cleaned up whatever, and it was dry by then, not

1472
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: to be gross, but that pales in comparison to this.

1473
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: And so I called Michael out to the fact when

1474
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: I read this and said, please tell me this that

1475
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: you're and he goes, oh no, So I would like

1476
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: for you, Eddie, did you think of what you think

1477
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,759
Speaker 1: would be the worst possible scenario that you could encounter

1478
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: non physical harm division? Yes, and non like harm to

1479
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: anybody else's division. Okay, I'm gonna read for you what

1480
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: happened to Michael Young, and then I want you to

1481
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: tell me whether or not it pales like like if

1482
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: yours is worse, or if this is what I think

1483
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: this is the worst thing possible. Okay, Michael Young, who's,

1484
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: by the way, who's at the dentist right now, And

1485
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't care if he's getting root canal without novacane,

1486
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:42,799
Speaker 1: that still is better than this. He posts this yesterday,

1487
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: and then I talked to him at I immediately called him.

1488
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: Getting to the point in life where I don't see

1489
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: many firsts anymore. Okay, So that means whatever it was

1490
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: is the first time that Michael's experienced it.

1491
01:21:58,479 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 3: Right.

1492
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 2: You see, I saw the post on Facebook, but I

1493
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 2: didn't read it. I just went right over.

1494
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: It happen to report a young lady. I can't even

1495
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: read with that laughing. It's so insane. Happen to report

1496
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: a young lady puked all over puked all over me

1497
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 1: on the plane. Oh my gosh, check that one off

1498
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: the bingo card. Now here's the worst part about this. Okay.

1499
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: So I call him and I go, wait a minute,

1500
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait a minute, so let me get

1501
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: this straight. What happened? And he goes, Oh, He's like,

1502
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: we're just about to take off and this young lady

1503
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 1: and he's like, I don't even think she was like

1504
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: twenty one. I think she was like eighteen years old.

1505
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: He goes, this young lady comes in and sits in

1506
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: the middle seat between me. You know, you always have

1507
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: this happen, and you were you about to take off

1508
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 1: and there's nobody in the middle seat, and you're like,

1509
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I hit the lottery. Oh my gosh,

1510
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: you hit the lottery. And then at the last minute,

1511
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: somebody comes its own happened to me on the way

1512
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: back also, So he said, this girl come sits down,

1513
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 1: basically passes out.

1514
01:22:58,720 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 3: Okay.

1515
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they get up in the air and then

1516
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: she wakes up long enough to get out the little

1517
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: blue the little blue bag of wonder, right, yeah, the

1518
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: blue bag that nobody ever actually has reached for that's

1519
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: sitting there in front. And she opens it up, and

1520
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,480
Speaker 1: Michael is like, I thought maybe she had like popcorn

1521
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: or like gummy bears or something. And he's like, and

1522
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 1: then I realized, oh, wait a minute, that's the puke bag.

1523
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 1: And then he said, he thinks to himself, I smell vodka.

1524
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 1: Oh okay, and he's like, who's drinking vodka? And no,

1525
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: sooner does he think that than she fills the bag

1526
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: and then proceeds, and he said he he's on the aisle.

1527
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: He and the window woman look at each other and

1528
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: both their eyes get the size of silver dollars. And

1529
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: this girl fills up.

1530
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 3: The blue bag.

1531
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 1: She has the presence of mind to then seal blue

1532
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: bag and I don't know what you do with it,

1533
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,839
Speaker 1: sets it down or puts it in her bag or whatever,

1534
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 1: right for a flight attendant. And Michael's like, okay, and

1535
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: then he's like, then I'm assuming she's reaching reaching up

1536
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: the call button for the fight attendant, but no, and

1537
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,639
Speaker 1: he's actually leaning left where Michael's on the aisle, mind

1538
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: you to grab his bag, and there goes round two

1539
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,719
Speaker 1: all over Michael. Now here's the beauty of it. This

1540
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: is a flight Eddie from Portland, Oregon to Indianapolis, a

1541
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: three hour and fifty minute flight. Oh no, and at

1542
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: the start I don't know at what point in the

1543
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: flight this is, but Michael's like, oh my gosh. So

1544
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 1: he goes back to the to the back of the

1545
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: plane and they start giving him large bottles of soda water,

1546
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: and he's doing a soda water bath and he's he said, like,

1547
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 1: he can't get enough on him to get all of

1548
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: this off of his shirt, out of his jeans, everything else.

1549
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,959
Speaker 1: And he says that once he goes through multiple bottles

1550
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: of this, he then not unlike Gordy and stand by

1551
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: me when he realizes there's one last leech. He looks

1552
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: down and realizes there's what appears to be a cheeto

1553
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: stuck between his sock and his ankle.

1554
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 8: No, and it's a regurgitated cheeto, soaked and smeared off

1555
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 8: that has warped its way into the cavity of his feet,

1556
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,799
Speaker 8: and he has to then reach down with his bare

1557
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 8: hands and gross and.

1558
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: Pluck that bad boy out there. And then and this

1559
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 1: is the best part he has to Then he says,

1560
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 1: there's one guy who has an open seat, and Michael says,

1561
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 1: can I sit here? And the guy's like, why don't

1562
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: you have a seat, And Michael says, I'm in thirty

1563
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: two E. But the girl in thirty two D just

1564
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 1: puked all over me. Now, if you're a guy sitting

1565
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: there mining your own business and a guy wants to

1566
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: sit down next to you because he's been freshly doused

1567
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 1: with that, aren't you immediately saying sayonara, buddy, back to

1568
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: thirty two you go. So he has to then go

1569
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 1: sit next to puke and meek puke for the rest

1570
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: of the flight. Who then she immediately goes back to sleep.

1571
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

1572
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: That And I mean, listen, I've been on a flight

1573
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 1: once where there was a medical emergency. I'm not making

1574
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 1: light of any of the actual severe, literally life altering

1575
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: things that can happen on an airplane, but that person,

1576
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:36,919
Speaker 1: that particular thing is the biggest zero chance. Right, Oh man,

1577
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: that's awful. I mean, you've got to be kidding me

1578
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: right now. I don't need to know what it was

1579
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: that you came up with in your mind, but was it?

1580
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 1: Is it worse or or in comparison to awful things

1581
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: to happen to you? That has to be what happened

1582
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: to Michael has to be worse, right, There can't be anything.

1583
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 2: Worse unless you're the one that did it to somebody else.

1584
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be awful. Being the girl would be

1585
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: pretty bad, except for can you imagine the humiliation of it?

1586
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: H Man, a cheeto?

1587
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: No thanks? Jake walks with crimson calf working turn three,

1588
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: and Michael Young flies with vomit comet working in turn two. Yeah.

1589
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 1: You also walk past the used needle after showering at

1590
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: the Beaverton Gym. Not exactly a commercial. Now, Portland is beautiful,

1591
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 1: like Portland is a cool city. It's cool city. Listen,

1592
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: the things that plagued Portland plague a lot of places,

1593
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: but that that is absolutely horrific. Steven Holder, by the way,

1594
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: mercifully joins us next two o'clock in Indianapolis. Thank you

1595
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 1: to everybody that stuck it out after that story. But

1596
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: it is unbelievable. Poor Michael Young, no wonder, he said,

1597
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just be at the If I was at

1598
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: the dentist right now, I'd be asking the dentists to

1599
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 1: just go ahead and put like you know, novacate all

1600
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: over me and then, you know what I mean, shave

1601
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: an entire layer of my skin off after what happened yesterday.

1602
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: No thanks. Steven Older joins us now, and I'm sure

1603
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: thrilled to be doing so. ESPN dot Com, where you

1604
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: can read his work, ESPN Television, where you can often

1605
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 1: see his work, especially this time of year. Steven, I'm

1606
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: going to begin with a curveball question for you as

1607
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 1: it relates to college football and the NFL. It's a

1608
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 1: question I came up with earlier. Are you ready, we'll see,

1609
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: we'll try, Okay, true or false? The winner of the

1610
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:46,600
Speaker 1: AFC South will be a franchise that plays in a

1611
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 1: state that is not represented in the College Football Playoff

1612
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 1: as well.

1613
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 3: There's a lot of moving parts to that one. Let's

1614
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 3: think about this, Okay, I see where you're going. I

1615
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 3: think I think that's a I think that's the colts question. Actually, well,

1616
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 3: there will be a team that that is not represented,

1617
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 3: in other words, from the state.

1618
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 1: Not that assume Let's say the Colts were to win

1619
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: the division, I would assume Notre Dame makes the College

1620
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:20,879
Speaker 1: Football Playoff.

1621
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 3: Right, Well, that's true, the Texans win.

1622
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: The division, I'm assuming that Texas wins the College.

1623
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 3: Football Playoff for sure.

1624
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: If the Titans win the division, Tennessee is very questionable

1625
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: in that regard, but they could make it, right they could.

1626
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 1: Then it comes down to, if the Jaguars were to

1627
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 1: win the division, do your Florida do your Miami Hurricanes

1628
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: make it in? Because I don't think Florida or Florida

1629
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: State does, right.

1630
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 3: I mean they're not. They're certainly not predicted to be.

1631
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 3: Although Florida has a really good quarterback and I think

1632
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 3: they overall were a bad team last year, but they

1633
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 3: finished pretty strong and the quarterback is in a couple

1634
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 3: of years could be the top five packs.

1635
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, so let me ask you this question. If

1636
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: Florida has a really good quarterback, is that the first

1637
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 1: time you've been able to say that in the last

1638
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:09,600
Speaker 1: ten years.

1639
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's probably true. Yes, they've had quarterbacks,

1640
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 3: they always have one. But can you name them. Yeah,

1641
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 3: I think that's probably true. So hey, listen, you know

1642
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 3: we got our own quarterback issues down at Miami trying

1643
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 3: to replace cam Ward, but you know Carson beck Is.

1644
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 3: There are definitely worse options, so I'm interested to see

1645
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 3: how that goes. But to your original question, I definitely

1646
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 3: think Miami's I'm sorry, Florida has probably got Florida and

1647
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 3: Tennessee probably got the weak the weaker cases of those

1648
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 3: of those teams that you talked about.

1649
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: And also probably the two franchises that would be if

1650
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 1: you were to rank the AFC South of likelihood to

1651
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 1: win division, I mean, it's Houston first, and then who

1652
01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 1: do you put second?

1653
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 3: Well, that's a great question. I think the Colts are second,

1654
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 3: and I forget about last year or the year before.

1655
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 3: I just think right now. I think if you look

1656
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 3: at the quality of team top the bottom, I like

1657
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 3: the Colts behind Houston. They have the biggest wildcard at

1658
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 3: quarterback though, right the quarterback position I think is the

1659
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 3: biggest wildcard for them. So that's why predicting the Colts

1660
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 3: is tough because you don't know what you're getting at quarterback.

1661
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 3: But I do think their team overall now assuming these

1662
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 3: injuries slowed down at some point. I do think their

1663
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 3: team overall pretty strong and I think can contend for

1664
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 3: the division just on the strength of that. The quarterback

1665
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 3: will decide, you know, whether they're higher or lower than expectations.

1666
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: I think Stephen. In terms of positions for the Colts,

1667
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback is the one that is a big question mark.

1668
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 1: But let's go to cornerback and defensive back in general.

1669
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: This is one that I will give the Colts credit.

1670
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: They've had good depth. I think Chris Ballard has built

1671
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 1: on this roster coming in. But now attritionian already rearing

1672
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 1: its ugly head. Where do things stand first and foremost

1673
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: in terms of the corners that are hurt and the

1674
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: possibility that they could miss let's say week one, Well.

1675
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 3: I mean at least for right now. Let's We'll get

1676
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 3: to week one in a second. But for right now,

1677
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm about to go out there and start running forties,

1678
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 3: so make sure I can get in shape because they

1679
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 3: may call on me at this point. It's not great.

1680
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 3: I think that you know, we have already established justin

1681
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 3: Walla's out for the season, we are also monitoring Jalen

1682
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 3: Jones and that one doesn't seem to have had a

1683
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 3: lot of progress with that hamstring injury due Drew Brent's

1684
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 3: same thing, although he might be his might be a

1685
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 3: little less serious than Jalen Jones. The corners that are

1686
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 3: playing in practice right now, I mean you're talking about

1687
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 3: Jonathan Edwards and Samuel Womack. I mean that's who's out there,

1688
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 3: and obviously Shivarius Ward, who you can pencil in as

1689
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 3: number one and in fact you can write it in

1690
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 3: pen But outside of him, you know, you're talking about

1691
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 3: guys who were supposed to be you know, the fourth,

1692
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 3: fifth options are now the second and third options, right,

1693
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 3: So that's not great. Now, I wouldn't say that week

1694
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 3: one is in jeopardy yet. I think there, I think

1695
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 3: they're still pretty hopeful. And Kenny Moore, by the way,

1696
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 3: Kenny Moore went down the other day, I was pretty

1697
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 3: worried about that one. But the early feedback is that

1698
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 3: is not a serious injury. So I'm going to take

1699
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 3: them at their word until I see otherwise. But not great.

1700
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 3: It's not great, and and that is such an important position.

1701
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 3: The last thing I'll say, it is a really important

1702
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,560
Speaker 3: position in this defense, which is why this the secondary

1703
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 3: in general, which is why you saw them approach it

1704
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 3: the way they did, big moves and free agency, pretty

1705
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 3: aggressive in the draft. They did what they had to

1706
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 3: do because some.

1707
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 1: Important Stephen if for an example, this is why I

1708
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 1: asked the question about corner, give me other positions. This

1709
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: is what I've been talking about today, and I want

1710
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:17,719
Speaker 1: you to, you know, take this and go further because

1711
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 1: I think you would know better than the areas. This

1712
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: could be the case if the Colts have to, based

1713
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 1: on attrition, go with a corner or two that maybe

1714
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 1: they were not originally anticipating having to keep on the

1715
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 1: roster with the fifty three man that would come at

1716
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,200
Speaker 1: the cost of a player at what other position?

1717
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. I mean I was just talking to

1718
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 3: an agent about the roster outlook right now, you know,

1719
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 3: and just sort of where the pieces are going to

1720
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 3: fit all together, and it is a puzzle, and I

1721
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 3: think you are right. Defensive line was the position we

1722
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 3: were talking about, Like how many defensive linemen can you keep?

1723
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:01,560
Speaker 3: Because two things. Number one, they like a lot of

1724
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 3: those guys. And then number two, just historically Chris ballor

1725
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:10,439
Speaker 3: the GM has has really been predisposed to keeping a

1726
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 3: lot of guys at that position. He loves him some

1727
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 3: defensive line. So I think that is the position that

1728
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 3: could be impacted if in fact they have to keep

1729
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 3: an additional corner or two, which is always possible. I

1730
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 3: mean I've always noticed, and I'm sure you have too.

1731
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 3: I mean that position corner in particular, they that is

1732
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 3: where you really have to have. I think the most

1733
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 3: depth of any maybe offensive line would be the other

1734
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 3: but corner in particular, those guys they get soft tissue injuries.

1735
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 3: They're like race cars, you know, the whole, all the

1736
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 3: all the cliches we use, it's true, and they're experiencing

1737
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 3: that right now. So I think defensive line could be

1738
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 3: directly impacted by that. And we'll have to see the

1739
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 3: the other one. I'd say, by the way, real quick,

1740
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 3: is posp possibly tight end because there may be a

1741
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 3: question there, and this is hypothetical, I don't know, but

1742
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 3: there may be a question there of do you keep

1743
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 3: three or four? Or can you keep three or four?

1744
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 3: And then should you? But that's a different question.

1745
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 1: Well, and that's so let's say I think they keep

1746
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 1: four for sure. Let's let's go tight end. Steven, Okay,

1747
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 1: Steven Holder, our guest ESPN dot Com. Obviously, Tyler Warren, Okay,

1748
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,919
Speaker 1: boom done, Moale Cox, what's.

1749
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 3: That I've heard of? Tyler exactly?

1750
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 1: Moaly Cox, I think very safely, we would say done, right,

1751
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 1: sold I think so okay. I think Drew Ogletree, I

1752
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 1: think okay, and then I think I think personally, and

1753
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 1: you might even be able to say this guy above Ogletree,

1754
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 1: Will Mallory. I think Will Mallory at this point, he's

1755
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 1: had a really good camp and he's shown some things right.

1756
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: It's hard.

1757
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 3: I love, Yeah, I love the camp that Will Mallory

1758
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 3: has had. It's completely unexpected. I didn't foresee it. But

1759
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 3: I think he's made a strong enough bid that that

1760
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 3: even the push that Jeelani Woods has made, I think

1761
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 3: has been basically canceled out by what Will Mallory has done.

1762
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, I would agree.

1763
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,719
Speaker 1: So that's the thing that I've been saying, is Jelanni

1764
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 1: Woods to me in this case, and Steven, the thing

1765
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 1: I've been saying all show today, and you tell me

1766
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,839
Speaker 1: if if you disagree, is this is like selection Sunday

1767
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 1: in the NCAA tournament, where if you've got to go

1768
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 1: with a corner that you didn't think was going to

1769
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 1: make the roster because of attrition as an insurance policy.

1770
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 1: That's a bid stealer. That's that small school that gets

1771
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 1: him the tournament by winning their conference tournament. And Jelanni

1772
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 1: Woods suddenly becomes the nineteen and twelve Texas A and

1773
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:49,600
Speaker 1: M that has left out. That's the guy to me

1774
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: that I look at and go, I think they like him,

1775
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,480
Speaker 1: but I don't think there's room for him.

1776
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's exactly right. Like I mean, in

1777
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 3: a perfect world where you can keep you know, limitless

1778
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 3: tight ends, you want to take a longer look at

1779
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 3: Jawannie Woods, right, I mean they drafted him with as

1780
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,960
Speaker 3: a guy with a lot of upside, the physical traits,

1781
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 3: all those things, right, But there's a couple of things. First,

1782
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 3: the obvious, he's never done really anything in terms of

1783
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 3: consistent contributions because he's been hurt, which is is what

1784
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 3: it is, right, he's been hurt. It's kind of the

1785
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 3: ju Ju Brandt situation. But the problem here is that

1786
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 3: he really doesn't have anything invested with this current coaching staff.

1787
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 3: I mean, he had he had a little bit of

1788
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 3: a run as a rookie like three years ago. Now

1789
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 3: you know, I mean he's draft. He's in I think

1790
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,560
Speaker 3: the class of what twenty two or twenty three I

1791
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 3: should say, I guess, but twenty two, No, twenty two,

1792
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 3: and so the class is twenty two. So in twenty

1793
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 3: three and twenty four he's been completely sidelined, done nothing.

1794
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 3: So the Shaints I can even know who he is.

1795
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 3: You know he has no role and that he hasn't

1796
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,400
Speaker 3: had any role for this coaching staff in their offense.

1797
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 3: So now Will Mallory has and maybe can build on

1798
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 3: what he did. I agree. I think if it's one

1799
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 3: for one there or one versus the other, I think

1800
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 3: Will Mallory clearly has the edge.

1801
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 1: If he asked me, Steven, every year there is a

1802
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,679
Speaker 1: player in the National Football League, typically during the draft.

1803
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 1: This happens in the NBA as well, where you later

1804
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 1: find out you'll hear from a scout or an executive

1805
01:39:20,600 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 1: and they'll say, look, we're not gonna lie to you.

1806
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: We actually were going and scouting player A. And when

1807
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,000
Speaker 1: we put the tape in. I think this is how

1808
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard got discovered. We put the tape in and

1809
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:33,720
Speaker 1: we're like, this other guy is in every play, he's

1810
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: all over the field. Well, let's look at it. Let's

1811
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 1: take a further look at this guy. Give me a

1812
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 1: player in this year's camp. I guess not named, say

1813
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 1: Will Mallory, but give me a player in this year's

1814
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 1: camp that you were looking and evaluating a situational battle

1815
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 1: and yet you were like, man, I can't overlook this guy.

1816
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 1: He just keeps making plays. I didn't expect that was

1817
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 1: going to be the case. And lo and behold, they're

1818
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 1: not going to be able to keep him off the roster.

1819
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 3: So this guy's not new, but I think it kind

1820
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 3: of applies to what you're talking about there. Tyler Goodson

1821
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 3: at running back, who his I guess memorable moment and

1822
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 3: his time with the Colts is dropping a fourth down

1823
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 3: pass with the playoffs on the line two years ago,

1824
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 3: right and him crying tears understandably cocker room that night

1825
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 3: against Houston in week seventeen or week eighteen. So certainly

1826
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 3: not a memorable moment that or one you want to remember.

1827
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 3: That's been his biggest mark that he's made with the Colts.

1828
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 3: He is coming into camp this year giving him credit

1829
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 3: here and had a really strong camp And I was

1830
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:47,679
Speaker 3: looking at that battle back there and kind of tagging

1831
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 3: him maybe as the fourth guy, thinking, you know, Khalil Herbert,

1832
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 3: maybe someone they brought in this offseason, someone who may

1833
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 3: slide in there as number three behind DJ Gidden. So

1834
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 3: I number two behind Johnson Taylor and Tyler Gibson just

1835
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 3: keeps showing up. And the other thing he's got thrown

1836
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 3: for him is that he's a special teams demon and

1837
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 3: he played a lot of special teams and he has

1838
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 3: carved out a role there and that's the secret, sauce. Right,

1839
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:18,599
Speaker 3: You've got to make yourself. You've got to make yourself

1840
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 3: indispensable in some way, and special teams is how you

1841
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 3: do that. So Tyler Goodson right now, I think he's

1842
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 3: on the fifty three. So I think that's where this

1843
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 3: is headed. With still a couple preseason games to go

1844
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 3: and another joint practice, so things can change. But as

1845
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 3: we sit here today, that's my call.

1846
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, a guy that will go the opposite that

1847
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,639
Speaker 1: you just assumed. Look, this is lock stock and barrel,

1848
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 1: and the more that you've gone along camp, the more

1849
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 1: you go is the real version of this guy going

1850
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 1: to stand up? Because I don't know what's going on,

1851
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 1: but he has not performed.

1852
01:41:52,360 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 3: Question I would say, hmm, this is a good question.

1853
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 3: I guess. I would say there's not as much of

1854
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 3: a battle of the offensive line as I thought there

1855
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 3: might be, you know, I mean the Tanner BORDERLINI was,

1856
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 3: I think, always going to be the starting center. But

1857
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 3: Danny Pinterer, I mean, when they decided to keep him,

1858
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 3: they kept talking about him, and they keep bringing him back,

1859
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 3: and I thought that might be more of a battle

1860
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,599
Speaker 3: than it really wasn't apparently from what I can tell,

1861
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 3: at least, So I don't know if that's exactly the

1862
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 3: answer or an appropriate answer, but that never really materialized.

1863
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,640
Speaker 3: I'd say, And they have their offensive line, which is

1864
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 3: a good thing, don't get me wrong. But certainly if

1865
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 3: you can have more competition, that's never a bad thing.

1866
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 3: I don't know that there was much of a competition there.

1867
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was one. I still think pinter though, And

1868
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 1: you tell me if you disagree, Stephen, But I think

1869
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 1: Pinterer has a lot of value to them. I've been

1870
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: higher on him, I think that most. But because of

1871
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 1: the fact that he can Swiss army knife. It look

1872
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: he might not be a set at any position on

1873
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 1: the line, but he's a six at like two or

1874
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,679
Speaker 1: three different positions, and sometimes I'd rather have that guy

1875
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 1: than a guy that is a solid nine but can't

1876
01:43:07,720 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: go anywhere.

1877
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 3: Well, at minimum, you need to have a backup center.

1878
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 3: It's not it's like no other position, right, I mean,

1879
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 3: you've got to know that this guy can snap reliably,

1880
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 3: and he's before he started at the position many times,

1881
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 3: so he's a reliable backup center and that'll keep you

1882
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 3: on the roster at least, particularly when you have the

1883
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 3: ability to also play guard if you need to, which

1884
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 3: he does. So I think his roster spot is mostly safe,

1885
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:44,600
Speaker 3: but I just don't think the starting competition has really materialized.

1886
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,559
Speaker 1: By the way. You know, who's got Let me ask

1887
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 1: you who's got a better gig, Luke Rhodes or Rigoberto Sanchez.

1888
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 1: Luke Roads, by the way, the long snapper, only long

1889
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 1: snapper on the roster, he's one of Luke Rhodes is

1890
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 1: literally one of thirty two walking growing men on planet

1891
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 1: Earth that know how to long snap in the NFL.

1892
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: I guess thirty three because Matt Overton still does it

1893
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: and it like gets calls. And then Rigoberto Sanchez, you know,

1894
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 1: punter and holder and got that pretty nailed. Down and

1895
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,719
Speaker 1: we don't say his name a lot, but pretty solid player, right.

1896
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, first off, Luke Rhodes, for those who don't

1897
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 3: know his story, do you know his story? The story

1898
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 3: is fantastic. It's an amazing story. He got here, I

1899
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:33,679
Speaker 3: think under Ryan Grigson, came here as a linebacker and

1900
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 3: you know, maybe slightly undersized or maybe not like the

1901
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:41,639
Speaker 3: you know, the most stunning athlete per se, but he definitely,

1902
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 3: you know, he played hard. He definitely was a physical guy.

1903
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you look at him, you can tell he's

1904
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 3: a physical guy. He's got muscles coming out of places

1905
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 3: he didn't think there were supposed to be muscles. But anyhow,

1906
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:53,719
Speaker 3: that was never going to be his long term future.

1907
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 3: He didn't have a long term future in the NFL

1908
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 3: as a linebacker, at least just from what I saw,

1909
01:44:57,640 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 3: although he did play in a couple of games late

1910
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 3: and maybe to two thousand and seventeen or sixteen or

1911
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 3: seventeen seasons. So anyway, fast forward to that offseason and

1912
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 3: they had some issue at long snapper. It's so long ago,

1913
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 3: I don't even remember the details, and they decided to

1914
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:14,919
Speaker 3: try him out a long snapper.

1915
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been just in snow, right.

1916
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 3: I don't know that it was. I don't know who

1917
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 3: it was, to be completely honest, it's too long ago.

1918
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 3: I don't remember. All I remember is this started out

1919
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 3: as an experiment. Let's see if this guy can snap,

1920
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 3: and he poured himself into it. And when should freaking

1921
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 3: know the guy becomes a Pro Bowl long snapper. I mean,

1922
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 3: it's it's ridiculous that just never happens. Right. But you

1923
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 3: talk about, you know, being being open to, you know,

1924
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:45,639
Speaker 3: to a different idea. You know, most guys don't want

1925
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 3: to change positions. You know, they're like, that's that's out there,

1926
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 3: especially from linebacker to long snapper. I mean, you talk

1927
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 3: about a hit to your ego, right, and it's like, oh,

1928
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 3: you don't think I can play linebacker? You want me

1929
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 3: to go snap the ball?

1930
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 4: What?

1931
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:00,080
Speaker 3: And but he poured himself into it, he worked at it,

1932
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 3: and it has been the best thing that ever happened

1933
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 3: to him. He's now on his third contract. It's it's

1934
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 3: absolutely a ridiculous story. So I think he has kind

1935
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 3: of the best job because you know, yeah, but.

1936
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, he probably has the best job because

1937
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 1: he's the only literally he's the only player on the

1938
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: roster well Sanchez as well. They're the only two players

1939
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: on the roster. I think they have no backup, right,

1940
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: so there's job security there.

1941
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 3: How have you ever heard of of a long snapping battle.

1942
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 3: They don't even bring you in other long snappers, right,

1943
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:34,639
Speaker 3: that's right.

1944
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

1945
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 3: I mean, they got two kickers in camp. They never

1946
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,080
Speaker 3: have two long snappers, right.

1947
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 1: It's because you can't find too. There's only thirty two

1948
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 1: guys and then Matt Overton. That's it, right, But.

1949
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 3: You have to really suck for them to be like,

1950
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 3: you know what.

1951
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: You have to think about this though, You've got to

1952
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 1: You got to be able to bend all the way

1953
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 1: down to look and like see back like way behind

1954
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 1: you and snap it. You got you gotta snap it.

1955
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 1: And then as soon as you snap it, you have

1956
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 1: to then somehow stave off a guy that is trying

1957
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 1: to run over you. I mean that would suck, right.

1958
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 3: And then and then a full sprint down the field

1959
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 3: to make a tackle.

1960
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 1: Yeah that too. Yeah, I mean there's no security. Okay,

1961
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 1: here's the thing in terms of long snapper. You and

1962
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to this. I'm gonna guess Okay,

1963
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess Luke Rhodes College, and I should

1964
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 1: know this. I should know this, but it's been forever

1965
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 1: since he joined the roster, so it's been too long. Said. Look,

1966
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure when he joined I knew this, and probably

1967
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,679
Speaker 1: people in their cars all know this, Eddie without telling

1968
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 1: me what it is. Do you happen to know the

1969
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:40,759
Speaker 1: College of Luke Rhodes.

1970
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 2: I just looked it up during the conversation.

1971
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 3: Is it?

1972
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,799
Speaker 1: Is it a Marquee football school? Don't tell me the school?

1973
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:47,599
Speaker 2: No?

1974
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 1: Is it a Division one school? Yes, Steven, do you

1975
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:56,599
Speaker 1: know the answer to this, by the way, and just football?

1976
01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 1: It's a Division one football school. But I do know

1977
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: the answer Division one, but not basketball. Usually it's the

1978
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: other way around, right, Well, wait a.

1979
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 3: Minute, I'm trying to remember now. I think they they're

1980
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,719
Speaker 3: definitely in one of those special categories.

1981
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 1: Go William and Mary William serious?

1982
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 5: Yes?

1983
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 1: Yes, hold on now, Stephen, can you tell me the

1984
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 1: last William and Mary and they're the tribe? By the way,

1985
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 1: can you tell me the last William and Mary player

1986
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,880
Speaker 1: that I believe started for the Indianapolis Colts not named

1987
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 1: Luke Rhodes.

1988
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 3: Uh No, but you can't.

1989
01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 1: True story and I've I've told this before, but it's

1990
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 1: worth repeating. The the year of the Curtis Painter year

1991
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 1: for the Colts. So before you were not here then

1992
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 1: where you, Steven or were you like.

1993
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 3: I was not okay a couple of years before me.

1994
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, So very clearly, I think we can now realize

1995
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 1: that the Colts had a master plan of the suck

1996
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 1: for luck right, and they knew that Peyton Manning was

1997
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 1: not going to be healthy and whatever else. I was

1998
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 1: doing an IndyCar race. I can't remember where we were.

1999
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:04,639
Speaker 1: It was the end of the year and the Colts

2000
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 1: had just announced their roster completion, but they had like

2001
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 1: two days and I was in the airport, I don't

2002
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:13,920
Speaker 1: remember what airport it was, and there were two Colts

2003
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 1: players trying to get back to Indianapolis because they had

2004
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,719
Speaker 1: to report on Monday because they had made the roster.

2005
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 1: And it was Nick I want to say, his last

2006
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 1: name was Nick Johnson. They ended up trading. I mean,

2007
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 1: he was a corner out of usc They traded into

2008
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 1: Philly and then David Caldwell, who was a safety out

2009
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 1: of William and Mary and our flight got canceled. We

2010
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 1: were in Washington, d C. That's where we were. We

2011
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 1: were coming back from the Baltimore Race. Our flight got canceled,

2012
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:40,719
Speaker 1: and these two guys are standing there. We're all standing

2013
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 1: there trying to figure out when we can fly home,

2014
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 1: and they're like, there are no more flights tonight. You

2015
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:48,480
Speaker 1: got to come back tomorrow. And these guys were freaking out,

2016
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:50,919
Speaker 1: and so we all went to the rental car facility

2017
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: to see about renting a car to drive back. And

2018
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 1: these two rookie guys who just found out they made

2019
01:49:56,560 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 1: an NFL roster, got the last rental car to drive

2020
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 1: from Washington, d C. To Indianapolis, and they drove back

2021
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 1: together in a smart car, the last car they had,

2022
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: a smart car, a smart car, two of them, like

2023
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 1: like Kermit and Fozzy, driving in the STUDI baker across

2024
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,599
Speaker 1: the countryside. Except for that it was like ten o'clock

2025
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: on a Sunday night and they had to report at

2026
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:19,720
Speaker 1: like noon the next day. And so I waited and

2027
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:22,680
Speaker 1: got the flight the next day, and then saw them

2028
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,680
Speaker 1: at Colts Camp like that, you know, you know, the

2029
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 1: Colts facility a week later and they and they told

2030
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:28,600
Speaker 1: me the whole story. They're like, oh my gosh, it

2031
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 1: was the worst. It took fourteen hours and da da dah,

2032
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 1: and they made it back just in the nick of time.

2033
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 2: There are two NFL head coaches that went to William

2034
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:37,679
Speaker 2: and Mary, current coaches current?

2035
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 1: Do you know that one? Steven?

2036
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 3: Current head coaches? Yes?

2037
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 1: Where did Mike Tomlin go?

2038
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 2: Bingohler's one?

2039
01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:48,240
Speaker 3: Listen?

2040
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 1: Listen to this? I mean, have you ever had more

2041
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 1: information spout off at the top of somebody's nogging about William?

2042
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, It's no, I know a lot

2043
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 1: about Mary. William is the one where I'm clueless. But still,

2044
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this is impressive. Who's the other I mean, well, what.

2045
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 3: We've established here is that there is an NFL line

2046
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 3: from William and Mary. Correct, that's right.

2047
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 1: Who's the other one?

2048
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:14,799
Speaker 2: Eddie Sean McDermott really, and then Joe Brady, the offensive

2049
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 2: dominator for the Bills, is also from William and Mary.

2050
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 3: Like I said, pipeline, pipeline.

2051
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:22,719
Speaker 1: Baby Steven who starts week one at quarterback?

2052
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 3: Oh, I am, I am just sort of. I would say,

2053
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 3: just very It's a very small nod right now for me,

2054
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:38,679
Speaker 3: at least to Anthony richards Well.

2055
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 1: And it's a part of that because Daniel Jones hasn't

2056
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 1: won it.

2057
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 3: He has not in my opinion. In my opinion, okay,

2058
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 3: because and I do think that matters, right if you

2059
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 3: unless they're just lying to us and all this talk

2060
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 3: about we still believe in Anthony Richardson, He's still you know,

2061
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 3: he still has a future. Unless all that's just a

2062
01:51:57,720 --> 01:52:00,720
Speaker 3: bunch of a bunch of smoke up our rare end. Well,

2063
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 3: then you got to walk the walk, and talking to

2064
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 3: talk means nothing. Walking walk would be okay. We wanted

2065
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 3: to bring in competition. We wanted to see if he could,

2066
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 3: if we could get more out of him. It seems

2067
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 3: that they have. Look, I'm not saying it's perfect. And

2068
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 3: there are times in camp when Shames Siken's frustrated and

2069
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,880
Speaker 3: he doesn't make the play supposed to make. Oh that's true, Okay,

2070
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 3: this is not a coronation of the guy being a

2071
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,479
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. I'm just saying, if all of those

2072
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 3: things are true, that you still believe all those things,

2073
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 3: and then we have Daniel Jones doing what he has

2074
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 3: done so far, well then it's hard in my mind

2075
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 3: to justify it. And you would have to sit down

2076
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 3: and explain that to me, how you arrive at that

2077
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 3: conclusion after everything you said and what we saw in camp,

2078
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,519
Speaker 3: that would to me be a very difficult thing to explain.

2079
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:52,799
Speaker 3: So I do have a theory though about the quarterback situation.

2080
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 3: If you don't douge me for like thirty seconds, I

2081
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 3: think this is This is my default answer for people

2082
01:52:58,240 --> 01:52:59,719
Speaker 3: who ask me. So if you stop me at Kroger

2083
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 3: and me what I think, this is what I'm going

2084
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 3: to tell you, and I believe it. I think they

2085
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 3: end up in the same place no matter who the

2086
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 3: quarterback is. And this is what I mean by that,

2087
01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:12,639
Speaker 3: You're just going to get there in different manners, meaning

2088
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:18,640
Speaker 3: with Daniel Jones very predictable, very very steady, not spectacular,

2089
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 3: Anthony somewhat spectacular, somewhat frustrating, up down, left, right, but

2090
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 3: ultimately you get to the same place in different ways.

2091
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 3: I really think that I know what that record is,

2092
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 3: but I think that's where they are.

2093
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would agree with that both of

2094
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 1: them are kind of like running a smart car. It

2095
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 1: eventually gets you there, right.

2096
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 3: Exactly, So neither guy is ideal. Right now, Anthony, Anthony

2097
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 3: can change that.

2098
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 1: You're right. I earlier today, the Colts are the Colts

2099
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 1: right now in the NFL are the Minnesota of the

2100
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 1: Big Ten. They're not terrible, They're okay. If there was

2101
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 1: a little Caesar's Bowl in the NFL playoffs, the Colts

2102
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,720
Speaker 1: would be there. That that's where they are now now.

2103
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, though it feels like gives you more possibility

2104
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 1: of elevating to the Outback Bowl, but you just don't know.

2105
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 3: All right, And even the potential the potential downside, there

2106
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 3: are injury and all that comes with that. So there's

2107
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 3: that factor as well, which is why Daniel Jones is

2108
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 3: here more.

2109
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 1: William and Mary chat next week. I promise maybe next

2110
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,640
Speaker 1: time we'll just, you know, we'll slide over and we'll

2111
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:30,759
Speaker 1: start talking Pittsburgh State or other random schools that contribute

2112
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 1: to the legacy of the NFL. Appreciate it as always, Stephen,

2113
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 1: all right, I'll tell you soon, all right, Stephen Holder

2114
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 1: from ESPN dot com, Eddie will you you will well,

2115
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: people can see it right here on the YouTube chat.

2116
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 1: I did not look up any of that, right, Nope,

2117
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 1: you did not. That's but that has to go to

2118
01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 1: that was deep down somewhere in my cerebral cortex. In

2119
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 1: the subconscious and it came out. But still I'm as

2120
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: is typically the case, I'm very impressed with myself. Did

2121
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 1: we get Scott agnes is off the control chair?

2122
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 3: Right?

2123
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: He's back in my good grace now I think so, okay,

2124
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna join us now, I will admit, because we're

2125
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 1: doing nineties music all day. Right, this is a great song.

2126
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 1: It's probably like one of those that didn't age well

2127
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 1: necessarily because it's kind of cheesy. But but it's very catchy,

2128
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 1: is it not?

2129
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 2: Most definitely I remember this song mainly because of being

2130
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 2: in Shrek.

2131
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 1: This was in Shrek. I've never seen that Shrek. That's

2132
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Speaker 1: about a big fat guy that's jolly right.

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01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 2: It's an ogre. Excuse me, he's an ogre?

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01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 1: That is that a real term?

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01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:43,320
Speaker 1: I think of Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds. You know,

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01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 1: you kind of look like Dudley okay, better known as Bugger.

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01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:49,920
Speaker 1: You kind of look like Bigger from Revenge of the

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01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 1: Nerds a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Right, I've been told I look like uh, Salvaconna from

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01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 2: a Practical Jokers. Okay, it's better than ogre, right, yeah, h.

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Speaker 1: Scott, I'm sure thrilled to be joining us now on

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01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 1: Based on that segue from Fieldhouse Files Fever in Action

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Speaker 1: tonight taking on Dallas Pacers in the news as well, Scott,

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01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 1: I'll give you your pick. Pacers are Fever you want to

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01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 1: start with, which, Let's start with Pacers, Okay. I would

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01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 1: like to know your thought on this. There's part of

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01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 1: me that when I saw that they are going to

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01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 1: start the year on national television against Oklahoma City, I'm

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01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 1: thrilled by that. I think it's cool. And then at

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01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:33,839
Speaker 1: the same time, I have this like apprehension about it because,

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01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 1: at the risk of sounding you know, I'm like, man,

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01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 1: the challenge here is the fact that if they it's

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01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 1: like a no win, if they lose the game, people

2155
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:48,640
Speaker 1: are gonna be like, see, they wouldn't have beatn Oklahoma

2156
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 1: City anyway. And if they win it, then you're gonna

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01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 1: be like, man, if they just could have done that, Like,

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01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 1: it just feels like it's too soon. Does that make sense?

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01:56:57,760 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 1: It's too soon, hey.

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Speaker 5: Don But I think you're always going to have that

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01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 5: that feeling Pacer fans will about. Look, they were up

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01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 5: at halftime and if not for that injury, Tyrees probably

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01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 5: would have went for thirty points and the Pacers may

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01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:15,280
Speaker 5: have won. That that's gonna tear Pacer fans up infinitely.

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Speaker 5: I think the good thing here is it allows for

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Speaker 5: that storyline of the Pacers being the great story along

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01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 5: with the Thunder to persist for that first week of

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Speaker 5: the year. And it's not the Pacers Jake going to

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01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 5: okac and on their ring night. No, that'll be two

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Speaker 5: days earlier. It is the Pacers first game, but not

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01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 5: the Thunders. Therefore, I think that would have been that

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01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 5: would have stung. I don't think that would have been

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01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 5: fair to the Pacers to put them back in Oka

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Speaker 5: See and on ring night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. I mean the part about and for

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01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:49,200
Speaker 1: Oak cityired Kevin mentioned this this morning. He's like, man,

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Speaker 1: is that a back to back for Oak City? It's not,

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01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 1: but it's going to be. You know, it's not there

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Speaker 1: of the Jake not back quick. Nobody says that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:57:57,720 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 5: By the way, we by the way, Jake, we could

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Speaker 5: mention too. Is even worse is Pacers scheduled them for

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01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 5: a preseed game, so before that matchup, we're already gonna

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Speaker 5: see them again Oka See in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: By the way, too soon. Here's the thing It's not

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01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:15,520
Speaker 1: like there's some heated rival, right, not at all. It's

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01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 1: just you're like, oh man, it's just and then you

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01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 1: forget Scott. It's so weird because you know that you're

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01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 1: so excited about and I am, I mean for the

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Speaker 1: Pacers and everything they did. I mean, it was just

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01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 1: it was so magical and it was so much fun,

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01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 1: and this team is so likable, and then you just

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01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 1: keep forgetting that two of its marquee pieces from a

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Speaker 1: year ago are not going to be there, and one

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01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 1: of them is not going to be back. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a very strange thing. Were you surprised though,

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Speaker 1: that they did not get a not only that they

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Speaker 1: didn't get a Christmas game, but that there's only one

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Christmas game?

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Speaker 5: It sure tells you what the League thinks about the East,

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Speaker 5: doesn't it? Totally like that. That was my first indicator.

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Speaker 5: I was not surprised Pacers did not get Christmas Day.

2203
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 5: They never really do. They haven't since I think two

2204
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 5: thousand and four, in because they're not going to be

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01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 5: at full strength with tyrees.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 5: Otherwise, you absolutely put that as the rematch. That is

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01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 5: their first meeting a rematch of the finals, but without it.

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Speaker 5: The other thing here, if we're being honest, is it's

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Speaker 5: a data company, ESPN and the networks and they know

2211
01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:25,240
Speaker 5: Pacers and OKC is not going to outdraw one of

2212
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 5: the bigger teams. So the fact that the Celtics, who

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01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 5: have been on since twenty fifteen every year on Christmas Day,

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01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 5: they didn't get chosen either, No way the Pacers would.

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Speaker 1: Then okay, fever in action. Tonight they are taking on Dallas.

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Speaker 1: What we know is this Odyssey Simms is in because

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01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 1: of losing you know McDonald and Sidney Colson as well.

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01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 1: This is a player We talked about it earlier with

2219
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 1: Stephanie White Scott, but for those that didn't hear it.

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Speaker 1: The one thing about Odyssey Simms and I think is

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01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 1: kind of advantage. Not only is it a skilled player

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01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,560
Speaker 1: and a veteran, but she has He's been in this

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02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:05,400
Speaker 1: situation before, being kind of air dropped into a team

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: actually important to have somebody with that level experience in

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02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 1: that unique situation.

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Speaker 5: You agree, absolutely, And on top of that, she's a veteran,

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02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 5: so this isn't a second or third year player. Still

2229
02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 5: trying to prove what they can do and unfamiliar with

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02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:24,200
Speaker 5: the other teams in the league. No, she's been around,

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02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 5: She's played for a half dozen teams, so there's a

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Speaker 5: meat understanding.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 5: Has obviously some familiarity familiarity with Erry McDonald as well

2235
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:37,240
Speaker 5: a little bit in that backcourt. But I think she'll

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02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:39,880
Speaker 5: be used on a need basis here. They already have

2237
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:42,839
Speaker 5: certain things that they like that have worked out. Reality

2238
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 5: is they just need some depth at that point guard

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02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 5: for when players get injured or what have you. Still,

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Speaker 5: I would expect maybe Sophie Cunningham Kelsey Mitchell to still

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02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:54,480
Speaker 5: shoulder much of the load there at that point guard spot,

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02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:57,080
Speaker 5: but Sims will be a necessary piece here for the

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02:00:57,080 --> 02:00:58,880
Speaker 5: final dozen games of the regular season.

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Speaker 1: When we had Stephanie White on earlier Scott, I didn't

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02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:06,120
Speaker 1: and I probably failed in this regard. But there has

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02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:08,560
Speaker 1: been so much talk about Kaitlyn Clark and not much

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02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 1: movement of update there that I didn't ask Stephanie White

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02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 1: because she talked about it yesterday. I should have asked

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02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:17,480
Speaker 1: for that update today. Has there been anything today or

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Speaker 1: at least within the last hour or so in terms

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02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:22,760
Speaker 1: of new news or movement on Kaitlyn Clark.

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02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 5: No, and I wouldn't expect that at all. For one,

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02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:30,720
Speaker 5: they've kind of followed the Pacers script here is they're

2254
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 5: not doing morning shoot arounds at home anymore. They're doing

2255
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:37,040
Speaker 5: the walkthroughs in the afternoon, so that allows for them

2256
02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:39,320
Speaker 5: to all just come to the arena an hour early.

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02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:42,960
Speaker 5: But she's still working on her own getting trying to

2258
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:45,080
Speaker 5: get just healthy again. She's done a little bit more

2259
02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:48,480
Speaker 5: on the court, has not participated in any team practices,

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02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:51,440
Speaker 5: so like it, it has been for the last three

2261
02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:55,240
Speaker 5: weeks or so, no real update, and you just got

2262
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 5: to play the waiting game and hope for her to

2263
02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:00,480
Speaker 5: get as healthy as she can be before the regular season.

2264
02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:03,120
Speaker 5: But that clock is obviously taken fast for the remainder

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Speaker 5: of the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say how long. It's crazy

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02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 1: to say with a player as good as she is

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02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:11,640
Speaker 1: and as much as she means to this team, but

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Speaker 1: how long, realistically, Scott, do you think it goes? How

2270
02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 1: many games does she need do you think to get

2271
02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:21,440
Speaker 1: like completely acclimated, if you will, I'd.

2272
02:02:21,240 --> 02:02:23,880
Speaker 2: Say probably three, two to three for sure.

2273
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:27,080
Speaker 5: The challenge in all this is she's coming off where

2274
02:02:27,080 --> 02:02:29,240
Speaker 5: she'll be out at least a month, right, and so

2275
02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 5: there's got to be a ramp up period. And the

2276
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:33,200
Speaker 5: fact that you know she's not playing five on five

2277
02:02:33,320 --> 02:02:36,400
Speaker 5: up and down practice and anything like that means you

2278
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:40,440
Speaker 5: obviously have to temper your expectations for probably both her

2279
02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:44,040
Speaker 5: workload and her usage with all this, because it's not

2280
02:02:44,120 --> 02:02:45,840
Speaker 5: like coming right into camp when you're in the best

2281
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 5: shape and you're ready to get going. She's going to

2282
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 5: need some full practices to get in and then she'll

2283
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:54,280
Speaker 5: probably need a couple of games at least to be

2284
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:57,640
Speaker 5: back in rhythm. She's already said earlier this season. First

2285
02:02:57,640 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 5: player I've ever heard say this that I rather not

2286
02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 5: have a minister restriction or not play at all, and

2287
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:06,640
Speaker 5: so I thought, but I think she's probably tweaked that,

2288
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 5: and that's probably the younger, inexperienced side of her. A

2289
02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 5: player that hasn't dealt with injuries is the first fever

2290
02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:15,000
Speaker 5: for the team. It's better if she can get out

2291
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:20,120
Speaker 5: there for twenty five minutes eventually here, regardless of despite

2292
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:22,600
Speaker 5: maybe even having that minister restriction. This is just also

2293
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:25,360
Speaker 5: new that she's having to figure it out on the

2294
02:03:25,400 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 5: fly here.

2295
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's Scott, It's so you know, we've been

2296
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 1: looking for so long from the time that Caitlin Click

2297
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:36,760
Speaker 1: began missing games of that date, I think it's the

2298
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:40,520
Speaker 1: seventeenth that if they could get through that, then they

2299
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:42,400
Speaker 1: have like a four or five day period where then

2300
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:45,920
Speaker 1: the acclamation period from a practice standpoint can begin. And

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02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:48,320
Speaker 1: at the time that we said that, that seemed like

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02:03:49,080 --> 02:03:51,720
Speaker 1: almost absurd because it was so far out. Yet here

2303
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:53,960
Speaker 1: we are now, right, I mean, we are getting close

2304
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:56,160
Speaker 1: to that time, and then you wonder if it even

2305
02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:56,960
Speaker 1: goes beyond that.

2306
02:03:57,200 --> 02:04:01,720
Speaker 5: Right, absolutely for sure, because because there's almost an expected

2307
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:04,640
Speaker 5: bumps in the road when you come back from something

2308
02:04:04,760 --> 02:04:05,840
Speaker 5: like this, and when you come.

2309
02:04:05,680 --> 02:04:08,000
Speaker 1: Back, by the way, from multiple injuries.

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02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:10,040
Speaker 5: I don't want to underline the fact or I want

2311
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:12,640
Speaker 5: to underline the fact that it's not just recovering from

2312
02:04:12,720 --> 02:04:15,600
Speaker 5: right growing one isolated No before that it was left

2313
02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:18,960
Speaker 5: growing and probably that maybe that quad stream's fine by now,

2314
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:23,120
Speaker 5: But this is not a simplistic tweak ankle tweak that

2315
02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:26,440
Speaker 5: we so ordinarily talk about in basketball, and so it could.

2316
02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:27,240
Speaker 3: Get complicated it.

2317
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:30,280
Speaker 5: You know, she's gonna make sure she comes back on

2318
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:32,760
Speaker 5: her timeline and does it the right way this time.

2319
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:34,920
Speaker 1: Scott what's new at Fieldhouse Files.

2320
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:38,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we're looking forward to the full NBA schedule

2321
02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:40,880
Speaker 5: release coming up on Thursday, and then I'll be at

2322
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:43,879
Speaker 5: the Fever game tonight and have full reaction from there.

2323
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 1: And you can hear the Fever game right here on

2324
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:48,800
Speaker 1: this radio station. Eddie will have pre and postgame coverage

2325
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:52,200
Speaker 1: as well. Appreciate it, Scott, great, Thanks Jake, Scott Agnes

2326
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 1: joining us from Fieldhouse Files. We'll come back put a

2327
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:57,840
Speaker 1: tie on all of it. And John will Is John

2328
02:04:58,000 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 1: here today or is he out? And about Eddie?

2329
02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:02,880
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I think he's here today, so.

2330
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:04,280
Speaker 1: We will hand it off to J and B. We'll

2331
02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:06,000
Speaker 1: do it on the other side here acquiring company on

2332
02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:09,440
Speaker 1: the fan Eddie. One of the things when it comes

2333
02:05:09,480 --> 02:05:13,080
Speaker 1: to I saw Aaron Rodgers is unhappy about the new

2334
02:05:13,120 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 1: football helmet he has to wear.

2335
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:19,320
Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, the clouds are outside. What's that? I thought

2336
02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 2: we were just dating things that we knew. Yeah, Aaron

2337
02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:22,160
Speaker 2: Rodgers hates something.

2338
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:24,920
Speaker 1: No kidding, right, speaking of clouds, he's the old guy

2339
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:28,240
Speaker 1: yelling at him. But he was talking about the helmets.

2340
02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:30,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't like the new helmet that he has to wear,

2341
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:33,440
Speaker 1: and it got me thinking we talk all the time.

2342
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:37,280
Speaker 1: One of the more common things that I ask, you know,

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Speaker 1: every couple of months, and I'm admittedly oddly fascinated with this. Ye,

2344
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:45,040
Speaker 1: my buddy Seankroll, who teaches sports marketing in the Fisher

2345
02:05:45,120 --> 02:05:50,160
Speaker 1: School District, is always talking about logos and uniforms in sports. Yes,

2346
02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 1: and I've asked you a million times who has the

2347
02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 1: best helmets in the NFL. And there's kind of a

2348
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:58,760
Speaker 1: rotation of answers there. But what I haven't asked you

2349
02:05:58,840 --> 02:05:59,960
Speaker 1: is who do you think is the worst?

2350
02:06:01,120 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 2: The worst?

2351
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:04,440
Speaker 1: Who has the lamest helmets in the NFL?

2352
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:11,280
Speaker 2: Can I, unfortunately say I think the cults are in

2353
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:16,440
Speaker 2: this category. That's fair, the Browns or the Browns.

2354
02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:20,040
Speaker 1: The Browns, I don't disagree, except for that there's like

2355
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:22,440
Speaker 1: kind of an and the same holds true here for

2356
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:27,240
Speaker 1: the Colts. There's an element of originality. I'm sorry originality

2357
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 1: is by the wrong word for the Colts, but like tradition,

2358
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 1: there's a traditionally, you know, laden thing to it, and

2359
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:37,600
Speaker 1: the Browns the fact it's just an orange helmet. I mean,

2360
02:06:37,640 --> 02:06:42,960
Speaker 1: it's it's you're either gonna love it or hate it, right, Yeah,

2361
02:06:43,080 --> 02:06:46,720
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the two that I just can't get past.

2362
02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 1: Actually there's three. Now, there are three teams that, to me,

2363
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 1: their helmet looks like a bad usfl from the eighties

2364
02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:01,160
Speaker 1: helmet design, like they just took a big sticker and

2365
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 1: slapped it on the side of it. Would you like

2366
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 1: to guess what three I'm talking about?

2367
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:07,400
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

2368
02:07:07,720 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 1: The Panthers, okay, the Patriots and the Titans.

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02:07:14,400 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 2: Okay.

2370
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 1: The logos just are weird looking. They I don't know,

2371
02:07:17,920 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 1: they don't naturally blend into the helmet. It's hard to explain.

2372
02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 1: They just look like they tried too hard to an extent.

2373
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:29,600
Speaker 1: And then there's some that I go back and forth on.

2374
02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:31,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes I like the Eagles, sometimes I think they're terrible.

2375
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:35,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes we're talking about the helmet and at the band, right,

2376
02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:37,880
Speaker 1: that's right, the band is sleepy. I got in a

2377
02:07:37,960 --> 02:07:39,600
Speaker 1: huge debate with somebody one time that told me that

2378
02:07:39,640 --> 02:07:42,280
Speaker 1: it's that the Eagles are the definition of rock and roll,

2379
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:44,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, they're sleepy. They're like, they're almost j

2380
02:07:44,720 --> 02:07:46,880
Speaker 1: and be a perfect person to ask John, do you

2381
02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:51,800
Speaker 1: consider and I know that they're not typically listed as such, Yes,

2382
02:07:51,960 --> 02:07:54,760
Speaker 1: but would you say that the Eagles more classify as

2383
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 1: classic rock or as yacht rock classic. Yeah, let me

2384
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:01,520
Speaker 1: rephrase that. Let me rephrase that rock and roll or

2385
02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:04,280
Speaker 1: you got rock like rock and roll. See, I don't

2386
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:06,200
Speaker 1: think of them as rock. I think of them as sleepy.

2387
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:08,600
Speaker 7: I think there's a little bit more country and then

2388
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:10,200
Speaker 7: than people give them credit for, too.

2389
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:13,960
Speaker 9: That's probably yeah. So no, I think that's classic seventies rock.

2390
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 9: I think it's what I would describe the Eagles as

2391
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:20,160
Speaker 9: right there. I think it's still on the same lines

2392
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:22,960
Speaker 9: as Steve Miller Band and all the other.

2393
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 1: Seventies, but I think Steve Miller Band has a little

2394
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:28,120
Speaker 1: more tempo to it like the Eagles. To me, I

2395
02:08:28,160 --> 02:08:32,880
Speaker 1: don't know why. But the Eagles, to me, they feel

2396
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:36,400
Speaker 1: like I'm in the dentist's office. I don't know why.

2397
02:08:36,440 --> 02:08:38,520
Speaker 9: See, I mean Steve Miller Band does the same. I mean,

2398
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 9: I think anything from the seventies does that for me.

2399
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:44,200
Speaker 9: I'm gonna help paranoid by Black Sabbath, that's true.

2400
02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of it just reminds you of

2401
02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:47,560
Speaker 1: like being driven around your mouth's car.

2402
02:08:47,680 --> 02:08:49,920
Speaker 9: Right, so iron Man, he goes, I'm get my teeth

2403
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:51,960
Speaker 9: worked on, and that's playing in the dinner.

2404
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:53,080
Speaker 1: Happened to Michael Young.

2405
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:54,040
Speaker 7: I did not.

2406
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:56,760
Speaker 1: I told this on the on the show today, Michael

2407
02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 1: Young flying back from Portland. I can't imagine a worse

2408
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:02,120
Speaker 1: scenario than that he was at the dentist today, which yeah,

2409
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 1: because I wanted to call it and tell this. Michael

2410
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:06,080
Speaker 1: Young was flying back from Portland and the girl in

2411
02:09:06,120 --> 02:09:08,360
Speaker 1: the seat next to him on the plane puked on him.

2412
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:10,720
Speaker 1: Really can you imagine that?

2413
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:14,720
Speaker 9: You know, that's how I met Greg Lancing coming back

2414
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:15,839
Speaker 9: from the Final four in Houston.

2415
02:09:15,880 --> 02:09:16,200
Speaker 1: You puke.

2416
02:09:16,280 --> 02:09:18,960
Speaker 9: I didn't know him know, I was so hungover and

2417
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:21,120
Speaker 9: I pat I didn't know who he was at the time.

2418
02:09:21,160 --> 02:09:22,880
Speaker 9: I tapped him on the shoulder and I said, hey, man,

2419
02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:25,720
Speaker 9: maybe want to watch out because I'm a puke on

2420
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:27,600
Speaker 9: somebody on this flight right here. I just hope it's

2421
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:30,840
Speaker 9: not you. And that's was Greg Lancing. Indiana State said.

2422
02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 9: I did not know who his cycle right.

2423
02:09:33,440 --> 02:09:35,080
Speaker 1: Somebody sent me a thing when I mentioned this that

2424
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:39,120
Speaker 1: their their son and daughter in law went to Key

2425
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:41,520
Speaker 1: West for their honeymoon and they were so hungover after

2426
02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 1: the wedding that his son threw up twice on the

2427
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:45,480
Speaker 1: airplane and had to layover in Charlotte, had to buy

2428
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:48,040
Speaker 1: new clothes at the airport. He had to buy duke shorts.

2429
02:09:48,160 --> 02:09:50,000
Speaker 9: So it was Michael Young kind of like stand by

2430
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:52,560
Speaker 9: Me where there was like a chain reaction puking going on.

2431
02:09:52,480 --> 02:09:54,640
Speaker 1: To well, he said. He went back to the galley

2432
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:57,200
Speaker 1: and with their soda water and sat there and rinsed

2433
02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 1: himself for like twenty minutes on the plane.

2434
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 7: Hey, where are you tomorrow?

2435
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm going Shannon and I go into our annual White

2436
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:06,200
Speaker 1: Sox game. Awesome, and then I'm back.

2437
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:12,760
Speaker 9: I'm gonna play I'm gonna play the Henry Gross classic

2438
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:15,720
Speaker 9: Shannon from the nineteen seventies. Although I will say this

2439
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:18,280
Speaker 9: Stephanie White will have to listen on Saturday Night because

2440
02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:19,360
Speaker 9: it's nothing but the nineties.

2441
02:10:19,400 --> 02:10:21,960
Speaker 1: Oh real Saturday Night. Yeah, okay, I'll.

2442
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:24,000
Speaker 7: Play some Bjork for Human Behavior.

2443
02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:25,920
Speaker 1: Do you know the band that.

2444
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:31,120
Speaker 9: Bjork was in before she went solo, Icelandic group known

2445
02:10:31,160 --> 02:10:32,680
Speaker 9: as the Sugar Cubes.

2446
02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:36,000
Speaker 1: I know that she Isn't she the one that dressed

2447
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:37,800
Speaker 1: in the swan dressed with Grammy.

2448
02:10:37,640 --> 02:10:39,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, like a whole meat outfit once.

2449
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:40,280
Speaker 1: I think too.

2450
02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:44,840
Speaker 9: Human Behavior, Big Time Sensuality and Army.

2451
02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:47,320
Speaker 7: Of Me, three of her most noted songs.

2452
02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:52,360
Speaker 1: With York Knowledge I lend not to make Oran, who's.

2453
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:55,440
Speaker 7: As the worst coach of all stinking time?

2454
02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:55,640
Speaker 6: Right?

2455
02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:56,560
Speaker 1: Whatever happened to that?

2456
02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:58,400
Speaker 7: An incredibly bald, bad coach?

2457
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:00,480
Speaker 9: What's on the show today, John, We're going to do

2458
02:11:00,520 --> 02:11:03,120
Speaker 9: Mike Sando, which I think people use as a term

2459
02:11:03,200 --> 02:11:05,720
Speaker 9: for getting a sandwich, which always thinks kind of douchey.

2460
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:09,040
Speaker 9: But Mike Sando is going to explain exactly from the

2461
02:11:09,080 --> 02:11:12,600
Speaker 9: athletic what everybody is saying about the Colts quarterback situation,

2462
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:15,240
Speaker 9: which is far from good. Do you want the best

2463
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 9: guy or do you want to see what Richardson is?

2464
02:11:19,160 --> 02:11:20,000
Speaker 9: What do you want out of this?

2465
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 3: The ladder? Huh? The ladder?

2466
02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:25,040
Speaker 9: You don't want to see who Richardson is? Yeah, that's

2467
02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:27,080
Speaker 9: exactly what they're going to do. But there are a

2468
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:29,040
Speaker 9: lot of people out there that want the best, dude,

2469
02:11:29,760 --> 02:11:32,440
Speaker 9: But the best Daniel Jones gets you ten and seven

2470
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:34,560
Speaker 9: and then you're right back to looking for another quarterback.

2471
02:11:34,640 --> 02:11:35,120
Speaker 3: Right.

2472
02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:36,680
Speaker 9: What you might want to seek to do is you're

2473
02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:40,160
Speaker 9: going to get you at best. People should be thrilled

2474
02:11:40,160 --> 02:11:42,520
Speaker 9: around here if they have a Gardner Minshew type of season.

2475
02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:43,240
Speaker 3: Serious.

2476
02:11:43,640 --> 02:11:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't disagree at all. I don't disagree that's that's

2477
02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:46,240
Speaker 1: where the.

2478
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:46,879
Speaker 7: Bar is set.

2479
02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:49,160
Speaker 1: All right. Well, the bar is low, there's no question

2480
02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:51,080
Speaker 1: about that, but the bar is high on the show

2481
02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:53,480
Speaker 1: up coming. Speaking of bars, Dairy Bar, I'll be out

2482
02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:55,480
Speaker 1: there serving some milkshakes later today, So if you're the

2483
02:11:55,520 --> 02:11:57,760
Speaker 1: State Fair, I stop by and say hi, but make

2484
02:11:57,800 --> 02:11:59,640
Speaker 1: sure you're listening to the fan in JB while you're

2485
02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:02,520
Speaker 1: doing it. We will be back with you. Greg Ragstraw

2486
02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:04,080
Speaker 1: in for me tomorrow. He's going to be out of

2487
02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:06,480
Speaker 1: the State Fair for the Indiana Harness Racing and then

2488
02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:10,280
Speaker 1: I will be back on Thursday live from Colts Camp,

2489
02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:12,000
Speaker 1: so we will talk to you then. I appreciate you

2490
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:13,040
Speaker 1: listening to Querying Company.