1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today. So we will see what the House 3 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: of Representatives does. We will see if they actually do 4 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: vote today to reopen the government. 5 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. Great to be with you. 6 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: I will admit I expected much more pushback on the 7 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Senate side when it came to passing this legislation, these 8 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: three pieces of legislation. I expected to see more from 9 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Ran Paul on a very interesting conversation regarding him, which 10 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: I thought was just him being Rampaul. It turns out, 11 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, no, there's a very unique story here, 12 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: something that was thrown into this legislation. I expected more 13 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: from the Democratic Party because they're just so angry and 14 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: they hate a Schumer so much. I mean, it's not 15 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: just hate. It is NonStop, visceral, maddening hate. Yet Tim Kaine, 16 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 1: who's voted to and the shutdown in the Senate, wants 17 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: to engage some level of defense here. 18 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: Do you have confidence in Schumer's leadership? Yes, I do. 19 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: I voted for him. He's a good leader. 20 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: He delivered historic wins for the United States when he 21 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: was majority leader. 22 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: Look it's tough being a minority. It's very tough. 23 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: And the notion that Chuck Schumer should be able to 24 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: control or corral Senate Democrats is sort of laughable. 25 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: Well, if you know something about the Senate. 26 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: I very much appreciate Chuck's leadership, but I don't need 27 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 3: his permission to do what's right for Virginia, because Virginians 28 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: gave me a permission slip when they elected me to 29 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: a third term in the Senate last year. 30 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: And what I decided was. 31 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 3: There was no path for it on healthcare with the 32 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: government closed and people were getting hurt in SNAP and 33 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: other areas. 34 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 2: With the government closed. 35 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: We needed a reopen government, protect federal employees, protect SNAP beneficiaries, 36 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: and this battle about healthcare without the background noise of 37 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: shutdown andbscuring the real stakes and the American public's ability 38 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: to see who's on their side and who isn't with 39 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: respect to healthcare. 40 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: So if I could translate Chuck Schumer great leader, I 41 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: just don't have to listen to him. That's I mean, 42 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: that's just precious right there. Absolutely fantastic Democrats, as I said, 43 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: out of their head angry because this was all a 44 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: game and the game is always predicated on how much 45 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: can we destroy the Republican Party, how much can we 46 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: shame the Republican Party, how much can we hurt these 47 00:03:53,360 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: people because they expect the Republican Party to fold, They 48 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: expect the Republican Party to give up. They expect them 49 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: to quit, and they didn't. And that's one of the 50 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: great great lessons here that they didn't. 51 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: We'll get into it. 52 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: So this is going to hopefully end things by Friday 53 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: past the House Rules Committee last night they finished up 54 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: at one in the morning. Turns out they do know 55 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: how to work late. It was a six hour meeting 56 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: hearing with this group. The Democrats look to force votes 57 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: on amendment's dealing with COVID nineteen Obamacare subsidies, which is 58 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: an interesting part of this. We have been talking about 59 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: the subsidies in and of themselves that we knew they 60 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: were going to sunset at the end of twenty twenty five, 61 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: the subsidies for Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, only proving 62 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: how unaffordable Obamacare is. We're sunsetting at the end of 63 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Democrats voted for this in the Inflation 64 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: Reduction Act. How many people knew that the subsidies were 65 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: increased during COVID, and that's what Democrats want to keep going. 66 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: No hands, none, none over there, no hands are up. 67 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: So it's not just about subsidies. It's about larger scale 68 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: subsidies that Democrats put in place during COVID, because, after all, 69 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: you have to help people. We told them they couldn't 70 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: go to work, and now you have to help people. 71 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: So you have to give them this and give them 72 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: that and give them the other. Now, I accept the 73 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: fact that Republicans have done an absolutely horrific job, an 74 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: absolutely horrific job in dealing with Obamacare. They couldn't get 75 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: Skinny repealed done, and then they have not been able 76 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: to engage a conversation of why we need something else, 77 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: or rather why this doesn't work. I think President Trump 78 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 1: through this idea of why are we giving them money 79 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: to this group or that group, are insures companies or hospitals. 80 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Why don't we give directly to the people. Well, why 81 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: do we now send me my own money? You know, 82 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: it's like the tariff conversation. President Trump is like, oh, 83 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna send people two thousand dollars is a dividend 84 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: from all the wonderful tariff money we're taking in, but 85 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: I'd rather not be charged the tariff and then wait 86 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: till you learn who actually gets the tariff dividend. 87 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: It could be you, it might not be you. All 88 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: depends on what you make. 89 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: And it seems we have a very unique idea of 90 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: what rich is in America. 91 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: I will get to that. 92 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: But if you're going to discuss a different way to 93 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: do things other than Obamacare regarding getting dollars to Americans 94 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: to get health insurance, all right, we're at least discussing 95 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: Obamacare being out, even though I don't appreciate the concepts 96 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: at all about what govern should be doing. I think 97 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: we need less government intervention in this, not more. And 98 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: the people pushing for government run healthcare, those people are mad. 99 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: And when I say mad, I don't mean angry, I 100 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: mean crazed. Well, the costs will be less, the costs 101 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: will not be less. The costs might be less to you, 102 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: but the costs will be more to others. And if 103 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: you think that's okay, that's weird. You want to subsidize 104 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: this group at the expense of that group, I'm sorry, 105 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: that's unacceptable. That's an obscenity. Why would anybody think that 106 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: that's of value, that that's decent. They actually think that 107 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: they are moral people. 108 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: They are not. 109 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: The Republicans have done a lousy job of this, and 110 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: they've done a really lousy job of pushing the idea 111 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: that the market has a value. And we've got a 112 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: whole group of people on the political right now who 113 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: seem to be very opposed to the concept of markets. Man, 114 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: Do they need to get slapped around something fierce? Yeah, theoretically, 115 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: not talking about getting physical with anybody. Everybody just settled 116 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: down already. 117 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: Obombacare doesn't work. Republicans need to now go. 118 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: Forward on this with strategy about hey, this would be 119 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: better for you, This is a better economic value to you. 120 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: This is where you save, and this is where you 121 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: get something better. Because sadly, we at least have to 122 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: accept that we have introduced him to America. You do 123 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: want to talk about the very evil of Barack Obama's presidency. 124 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: We've put into the American ethos the idea that government 125 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: is supposed to provide these things. This was the worst 126 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: part of it. This was the worst part about bail 127 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: APIs bailouts. If we go back to George Bush and 128 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: Barack Obama said to America, if anything goes wrong, don't worry, 129 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: We'll take care of it. And we introduced the idea 130 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: of too big to fail full nonsense. AIG wasn't too 131 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: big to fail, Leavin Brothers, bear Stearns, They weren't too 132 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: big to fail. Intel is not too big to fail. 133 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: If you can't do it, you can't do it. And 134 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: the idea that someone won't take the place there isn't 135 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: an opportunity for a better operator. 136 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: Dismiss this out of hand. 137 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: It's just nutty nutty. But let's go one thing at 138 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: a time. Here, here we are taking a look at 139 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,119 Speaker 1: the House of voting to end this shutdown. 140 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: I for one, am very pleased. I want to see 141 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: it end. 142 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: And I like the fact that the Democrats are this angry. 143 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: I like the fact that they're upset. 144 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: I want to see what they do with this, because 145 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: what they could do with this gets far more ridiculous 146 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: than anything you've ever imagined, because losing is not what 147 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: they are used to. 148 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: Republicans being united is really not what they are used to. 149 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 2: So we're gonna see if they get to the call. There. 150 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: We've got the White House briefing today and we're supposed 151 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: to JD. Vans is gonna be talking about MA and 152 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: thank goodness because this is something that connects and works, 153 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: and it's a pretty important piece heading into the midterms. 154 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: And if President Trump wants to talk about lowering costs, 155 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: this is one of the ways to do it. Even 156 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: though I may not be okay with the idea that 157 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: government is using some level of force and tell health 158 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: insurance companies to do x Y and Z or drug 159 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: manufacturers to do X Y and Z. 160 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: What people are gonna say is the fact shot costs less. Wooo'. 161 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: That's what they're gonna say. And I'm assuming they're gonna 162 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: go wooo that. I believe that's what's going to be said. 163 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: So I've got all that coming up, and if we 164 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: start hearing and seeing a vote in the House, I 165 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: will bring it to you. 166 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony 167 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: Katz today. I am fully. 168 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: Aware that The New York Times is pushing a story 169 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: in emails regarding Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, and I am 170 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: fully aware that people who never listen to this show, 171 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: never listen to this show. 172 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: Tony Katz Tony Katz Today, what's going on? Everybody? Glad 173 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: you're here. 174 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: Good to be with you. I am smoking from Oliva 175 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: or is it Oliva? The Master Blend three, the Church 176 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: Shill right here, this soft box press, which is. 177 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: Really more kind of an oval. 178 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: I had my first one yesterday, my second one today, 179 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: my third one coming up soon. These emails, and these 180 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: emails where Epstein is allegedly emailing, I think it's Julie Maxwell, 181 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: who's the one in jail who procured the young girls 182 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: for Epstein and his client base. And how allegedly Trump 183 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: had spent time with a victim and nobody had said 184 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: anything and done anything, and he hasn't mentioned anything, etc. 185 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: I have not read the story yet. That story came 186 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: out today. I have not gone through it yet. I've 187 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: seen what is the alleged email. I have stated on 188 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: this show from the beginning. I want the Epstein files. 189 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,239 Speaker 2: I have an entire history live streams. 190 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: You can go back and check YouTube dot com slash 191 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, I absolutely want the files. When President Trump said, 192 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: well you want the files? Where files don't matter? Can 193 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: we all please be focused on things that matter? This 194 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, I said, that President Trump was wrong. 195 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: He was. 196 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: On my morning show just today wrong about Epstein and 197 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: certainly wrong was President Trump. Will get into it regarding 198 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: H one B visas and students from foreign countries going 199 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: to universities right here in the United States. The Epstein 200 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: thing was a very rare miss for the president, but 201 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: he missed, and you. 202 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: Had people immediately coming to his defense. 203 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: Hey, President Trump says, we shouldn't care about this, we 204 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't care about this. Well, you're wrong. I don't care 205 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: how big of a radio host you are. I don't 206 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: care how big of a so called influencer you are. 207 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: You're flat out wrong. Of course we should be paying 208 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: attention to this, and of course this matters. 209 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: To say all of a sudden, it doesn't matter. 210 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: Hey man, you're gonna need a different kind of idola 211 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: or I don't play that way. 212 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: And so people are not sending me these things, Well 213 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: what about this? What about that? Tony? 214 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: What I'm on record? I don't worry about what people 215 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: send me on social media. By the way, now that's jew. 216 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: I want the Epstein files, and I want them now. 217 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: We haven't released enough, not at all. And I don't 218 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: care what your last name is, And I don't care 219 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: how much money you have. 220 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: If you're involved in abusing children, you need to go 221 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: to jail. 222 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: I do agree with the people who say if they 223 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: had stuff on Donald Trump. 224 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: They would have released it already. 225 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: How in the world does an email like this come 226 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: out now? It didn't come out to try and keep 227 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: them out of office? Are you we magically only found now? 228 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe. It's hard to engage that way. 229 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: So there we are on Epstein. I have not gone 230 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: through the New York Times article yet, which it's the 231 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: New York Times. The grains of salt that you would 232 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: need in only the fry guy at McDonald's has more grains. 233 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: Of salt. 234 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: That you would need to read a New York Times 235 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: article and believe it just because it's in the New 236 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: York Times. Need to go over it, need to look 237 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: into it. So I have not had the chance yet. 238 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm fully aware that it's out there. I want the 239 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: Epstein files, and anybody associated with the abusing of children 240 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: needs me in jail. 241 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: I don't give a. 242 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: Damn who they are, who their daddy is doesn't mean 243 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: a thing to me. 244 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: Abby Phillip went on with joy Reid. 245 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Now, Abby Phillip is the one who hosts the show 246 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: there on CNN, and that show it is only worthwhile 247 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: because Scott Jennings is a revelation. Scott Jennings and his 248 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: ability to just push back every bit of nonsense that 249 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: the political left puts forward, and they put forward a tremendous, 250 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of nonsense. I mean it is, it is 251 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: very impressive. Here, I'll give you an example. This took 252 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: place on the that Abby Phillips show. Check this out 253 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: right here. 254 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: He has put Trump has put you in a very 255 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 4: difficult position because my. 256 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 5: Colleagues have said here right. 257 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: If Joe Biden or any other Democrat would have said this. 258 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: You'd be like, that's ridiculous. 259 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 6: I don't know you very well, but I can assure 260 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 6: you that the condition of Donald Trump being the president 261 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 6: versus Joe Biden, in no way, shape or form sucks 262 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 6: for me or Jim Well, well, I. 263 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 4: Think it's I think it's quite difficult to defend somebody 264 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: who puts you in a position of saying we should 265 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: put somebody else besides the Americans, especial, especially when he's 266 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: just it's the dollars to bail out Argentina. 267 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: I think it. 268 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 6: First of all, it was a currency swap which we 269 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 6: made a profit on. Number two, it's quite easy for 270 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 6: me to be perfectly comforted with the President of the 271 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 6: United States, who's presiding over a broad coalition that does 272 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 6: have disparate views the previous administration. You don't even you 273 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 6: could consider and tell me who the hell was in charge. 274 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: I know who's right, and. 275 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 5: I'm not going to defend it. I'm not sitting here 276 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 5: to defend that. 277 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: It seems like you are. It seems like you are. 278 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: When I say that Scott Jennings is incredible at his job, 279 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: he is. 280 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: But this was Abby Philip On with Joy read let 281 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: us begin. 282 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 7: Conservatives are living in a completely different information world, absolutely liberals, 283 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 7: and breaking that down needs to be done because when 284 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 7: you don't ever even hear the facts, it's hard to 285 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 7: even know that you're wrong, and that happens a lot. 286 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 7: I mean, half my job sometimes is knowing what the 287 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 7: latest conspiracy is so that if it comes up, I'm 288 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 7: ready to address it, because it happens a lot where 289 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 7: people don't even know that what they're saying or what 290 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 7: they've seen and believe is not true, and so that 291 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 7: happens a lot, and I don't come away from that saying, 292 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 7: what's the point of this? People are just saying false things. 293 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 5: I think that. 294 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 7: One time that that person brings up something that is 295 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 7: debunked and false and I debunk it at the table, 296 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 7: it might be the very first time that saye out 297 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 7: there has heard an alternative point of view. 298 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: It's conservatives who aren't engaged in facts. Huh hey, Barry Weiss, 299 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: it now might be a good time to make another 300 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: run on Scott Jennings to come on over to CBS News, 301 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: because he shouldn't stick around. 302 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: If you want to make the argument. 303 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: That the facts exist somehow solely and exclusively with the 304 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: political left, you can, But we all know that that's 305 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: not true. And this idea that somehow the political right 306 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: isn't dealing with reality is equally not true. And the 307 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: fact that Abby Philip is saying the goal of my 308 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: show quasi what she's saying, the goal of the show 309 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: is to expose the truth to the political right. 310 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: Okay, we're done. 311 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 4: Ye. 312 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm impressed she said it, because I didn't actually 313 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: know what the goal of the show was. 314 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: But if that's the goal of the show. 315 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: My gosh, she's not doing it because the only reason 316 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: anybody watches is for Scott Today an. 317 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 8: Appalachia not only for poor health. It's got the worst 318 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 8: health data of any region the country, the highest cardi actacies, obese, 319 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 8: the highest diabetes, the highest stroke rates, but also addiction 320 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 8: and alcoholism. 321 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 9: And the suicide It leads the nation for those things. 322 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 9: And so I know it's something that you've spent a 323 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 9: lot of time thinking about. How do we know because 324 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 9: if we can solve problems in Appalachia, we can solve 325 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 9: them for the whole country. 326 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. In the public health. 327 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 5: Stuff in particular is very bad. 328 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 10: And if you look at where life expectancy has gotten 329 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 10: the worst in the United States, Appalachia is sort of 330 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 10: at the top of the list. And the way that 331 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 10: I realize this actually, so my dad died of cancer 332 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 10: a few years ago, and it was one of these 333 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 10: sort of super aggressive cancers, came on very unexpectedly, and 334 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 10: then you know, all of a sudden, he was he 335 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 10: was gone a few months later. But I was talking 336 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 10: too with my wife with Usha about this, and Usha 337 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 10: she was like, have you ever had like a really 338 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 10: important male figure in your life survived at the age 339 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 10: of seventy like so, and I'm looking at and I'm like, Okay, 340 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 10: my grandfather died at sixty seven from a very preventable illness, 341 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 10: but sixty seven from a very preventable, very treatable illness. 342 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 10: I think all of my aunts or all of my uncles, 343 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 10: and not a single one of them that I could 344 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 10: think of, made it to sixty nine. 345 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: Maybe one of them made it to seventy or seventy one. 346 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: And Robert F. 347 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior, speaking at an event the MAHA Summit in DC, 348 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: Tony Katz Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 349 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 2: This is the kind of stuff that is very, very 350 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: hell well. This is the kind of stuff that. 351 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: Connects with the American people. Make America healthy again is successful. 352 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: People see it, they want to be a part of it, 353 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: they want it for their kids. These are good things. 354 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: So the importance of this. It also fits in with 355 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: the idea of lowering costs in general, but creating better 356 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: outcomes and better outcomes. 357 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: For everybody. Better outcomes. 358 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: For poor Americans, better outcomes for rich Americans, better outcomes 359 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: all the way around. 360 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: And that's a winning, winning argument. You know a person 361 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: that they fall in love with. That is a very clear. 362 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: Winning argument and one that needs to be better addressed 363 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: by the administration. Oddly enough, I can't even believe him 364 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: saying the words more RFK in every single way, more 365 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Because the arguments that he's making 366 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: are much better arguments. They're winners, and this administration needs 367 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: some winning arguments. There was a lot of talk and 368 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: we shared this about some polling that came out the 369 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: other day. And the polling that came out the other 370 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: day was about President Trump and the economy and it 371 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: not being great. And I believe this to be true, 372 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: that people see the economy is not great. The polls, however, 373 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: say to me, not something that's terminal. Well, the midterms 374 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: are lost, but no, something that is very much convertible. First, 375 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: you have to be able to sell your story. What 376 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: prices have gone down, gas prices, why are you talking 377 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: about it more? 378 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: What you're doing with drugs or prescription drugs? Got talked 379 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: about that more. 380 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: But beef prices are out of control, and you can't scream, well, 381 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: look what the beef producers are doing. What are we 382 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: doing to reduce inflation. What are we doing to reduce 383 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: regulation to make these things easier? Show your work, it's 384 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: really important. So President Trump is not pleased about. 385 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: This, as you can imagine. 386 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: Well, over there at CNN, they note that President Trump 387 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: is not pleased about it. They're fully aware that he 388 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: is not pleased about it. So Harry Enton, who is 389 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: their numbers guy over there, takes to the television screen 390 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: and says, hey, uh, don't get mad at me. 391 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: No, no, not at all. 392 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 11: And if I had one piece of advice to my 393 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 11: fellow fast food lover, it would be in the words 394 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 11: of Michael Jordan. 395 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: Stop it. Stop going after the polls. 396 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 11: You have a real problem because take a look here 397 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 11: Americans on inflation. You know, you go back to October 398 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 11: of twenty twenty four. Who did Americans trust war inflation, 399 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 11: Kamala Harris or Donald Trump? They trusted Donald Trump by 400 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 11: nine points on average. You jump over to this. 401 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 12: Side of the screen, those same exact poles have them 402 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 12: way way away underwater, twenty six points underwater, and his 403 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 12: net approval on inflation. So it's not that the polls 404 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 12: are fake, it's that the American people have turned against you. 405 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: Mister president. 406 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 11: You've gone from leading by nine points in inflation to 407 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 11: being twenty six points underwater. You're doing something very wrong 408 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 11: in the minds of the American public. 409 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 5: Hey, negative twenty six. 410 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: That's a problem. It's a huge problem. 411 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 5: Let's go down this path of hypotheticals. 412 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 13: Right, if the pulling is off allah twenty twenty four, 413 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 13: what would that mean for the president? 414 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, exactly, So you see this switcheroo, right, going 415 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 11: from plus nine minus twenty six. That's a move of 416 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 11: over thirty points in the wrong direction. But let's say 417 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 11: the poles are off. Let's take up Donald Trump on 418 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 11: his hypothetical. Correct, Oh, the poles always underestimate me. Well, 419 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 11: here's Trump's not appropriate rating on inflation. Currently, he's twenty 420 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 11: six points below water. If the poles are off like 421 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 11: they were in twenty twenty four, he still got a 422 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 11: titanic size problem. He's then twenty four points underwater on inflation. So, yes, 423 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 11: the poles underestimated him, but just by about a point 424 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 11: and a half in twenty twenty four. He would still 425 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 11: have a massive, massive, massive problem on inflation, even if 426 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 11: the poles were off. 427 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: Like they were a year ago. 428 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: Now, the story here is that this is surmountable and 429 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 1: it has to be addressed. 430 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: Like that, this is not well, it's over. 431 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: Oh what a foolhardy thing to say, foolhardy thing to 432 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: go out there and say and believe. 433 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: But President Trump took a swing and a miss the 434 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: other day in this interview with with lour Ingram was 435 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 2: really something else. 436 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: And all the kudos in the world to lour Ingram 437 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: because she handled this with a plumb and she was 438 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: able to push back with a sophistication. And one of 439 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: the subjects was h one be Visas is never going. 440 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 14: To be a country like what we have right now? 441 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: And does that Republicans have to talk about it? 442 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 15: And does that mean the h one be Visa thing 443 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 15: will not be a big priority for your administration. Is 444 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 15: if you want to raise wages for American workers, you 445 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 15: can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds 446 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 15: of eye. 447 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: And we also do have to bring in talent when 448 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: we've got to be a talent and you know, you 449 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: know you don't. We don't have talent. No, you don't 450 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 2: have you don't have certain talents. 451 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 14: And you have to people have to learn. You can't 452 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 14: take people off an unimploied, like an un bloyment line 453 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 14: and say I'm going to put you into a factory. 454 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 14: We're going to make missiles or going. 455 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: To How did we ever do it before? Well, I'll 456 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: give you an example. 457 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 14: In Georgia, they raided because they wanted illegal immigrants out. 458 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 14: They had people from South Korea that need batteries all 459 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 14: their lives. You know, making batteries are very complicated. It's 460 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 14: not an easy thing and very dangerous. A lot of explosions, 461 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 14: a lot of problems. They had like five or six 462 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 14: hundred people early stages to make batteries and to teach 463 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 14: people how to do it. 464 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: Well, they wanted them to get out of the country. 465 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: Are you going to need that lure? I mean, I 466 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: know you and I disagree on this. 467 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 14: You can't just say country's coming in, going to invest 468 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 14: ten billion dollars to build a plant and going to 469 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 14: take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in 470 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 14: five years, and they're going to start making their missiles. 471 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with the basic concept. 472 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: I disagree in large measure that you would say out 473 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: loud Americans camp No, it isn't totality of what he said, 474 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: but it's absolutely the thing that's going to be remembered. 475 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: It was a mistake. And when we talk about that 476 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: plant in Georgia, the hyundaid plants, I believe they. 477 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 2: Were here illegally. Why if they were. 478 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: So important to the to the training of American workers, 479 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: why would they be here illegally. 480 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: That's the issue. This is a miss from the president, 481 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: but there was a greater miss and it happened here. 482 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: Wait a second, let me try that again. Better. 483 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 15: Folks are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of 484 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 15: thousands of foreign students in the United States. We have 485 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 15: about three hundred and fifty thousand Chinese. At one point 486 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 15: during COVID you were going to you know, we'll push 487 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 15: to get them out, but that was pulled back. You've 488 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 15: said as many as six hundred thousand Chinese students could 489 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 15: come to the United States. Why, sir, is that a 490 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 15: pro MAGA position when so many American kids want to 491 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 15: go to school and there are places not for them, 492 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 15: and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money. 493 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 14: Sure, I never said about China, but we do have 494 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 14: a lot of people coming in from China. We always 495 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 14: have China and other countries. We also have a massive 496 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 14: system of colleges and universities, and if we were to 497 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 14: cut that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, 498 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 14: you would have half the colleges in the United States 499 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 14: school out of business. 500 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's a big deal. 501 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: Okay, Laura Ingram is right and the president is wrong. 502 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: There could be some people in Magaville who say, how 503 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: dare you? You're misrepresenting his words. No, if you believe 504 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: you shore taking foreign students for the sake of keeping 505 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: universities in business, you're wrong. 506 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: That isn't what we do. I don't need the universities 507 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: to be in business. I've seen what. 508 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: They produce, and many of them don't produce anything of value. 509 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: We don't need that, and we certainly shouldn't be keeping 510 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: universities in business by propping them up with foreign students, 511 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: many of whom are not believers in America, work against 512 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: America's interests. And in the case of the Communist Chinese 513 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: have connections to the Communist Chinese Party. 514 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 2: Let me say it again for the people in the 515 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: cheap seats. 516 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: No one connected to the Communist Chinese Party should be 517 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: allowed to go to school in the United States. No 518 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: one connected to the Communist Chinese Party should allowed. 519 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: To be owned land. 520 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: They should shouldn't be allowed to own land. They shouldn't 521 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: be allowed to own a business in the United States. 522 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: There's a national security issue here, and I don't want 523 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: to hear from anybody about how oh you're being anti Chinese, 524 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: anti communists every day of the week and twice on Sunday. 525 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: I apologize to no one. And if I have to 526 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: tell you nose to nose pick the street corner, I'm in. 527 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: The President is wrong here. You don't just allow people 528 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: enjoy universities because some university wants to be able to 529 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: charge a. 530 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: Full freight and add a state tuition and all the 531 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: rest stop it. That's not an answer. 532 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: It's not an answer to say we need the H 533 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: one B visas because Americans can't do the job. 534 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: That's nutty. 535 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: If you want to offer some visas so we can 536 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: train Americans on specific things that were being done in 537 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: other countries, fine by me, a rational argument, and then 538 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: we train our people and then we train more Americans. 539 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: Isn't that the whole purpose? But this is not just 540 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: a miss. This is a massive miss. 541 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: It was a miss on the Epstein files, and it's 542 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: a miss here, and I would argue that the MAGA 543 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: people are pretty. 544 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: Upset about this. 545 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: I think rational people should look at this and say, 546 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: this is a mistake, an absolutely giant mistake from the President. 547 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: He missed here. He's just wrong. His advisors are wrong. 548 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear from anybody the administration talking 549 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: about well, you see what he's saying is. 550 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: I don't need anywhey to go back and explain it. 551 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: He's wrong. We should say so and not be afraid 552 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: to say so. I voted for President Trump. I feel 553 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: I'm better off. 554 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: I feel that I still have better opportunities now than 555 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: I ever would have had with Joe Biden or whoever 556 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: was running the country at the time, and better opportunities 557 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: than Kamala Harris. Absolutely, when he makes a mistake, I 558 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: say so. And the people who say you can't say so, 559 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: pay no mind to them. This was a miss from 560 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: President Trump. He needs to correct this immediately. I'm Tony Katz, 561 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: and this is Tony Kats today. 562 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 11: We believe the long national nightmare will be over tonight. 563 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 14: It was completely and utterly fooled. 564 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: So you've got Mike Johnson, he's the speaker saying that 565 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: our long national nightmare will be over tonight. Well, okay, okay, 566 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: I'd be happy to see the shutdown beyond Tony Katz, 567 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, great to be with you. Ads for 568 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: Representative of Cassio Cortes. 569 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 16: I think it's important that we understand that this is 570 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 16: not just about Senator Schumer, but that this is about 571 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 16: the Democratic Party and Senator Schumer. There's no one vote 572 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 16: that ended this shutdown. 573 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 17: We are talking about an coordinated effort of eight senators 574 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 17: with the knowledge of Leader Schumer, voting to write with 575 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 17: the entire Democratic Party in exchange for nothing and now 576 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 17: people's healthcare costs. 577 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 2: Let me try and explain to what just happened. There 578 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 2: no way, I don't have to do I you know 579 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: exactly what. 580 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 5: You didn't need me. 581 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: Honestly, this is the best part of the day. You 582 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: didn't need me to tell you. What is it that 583 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: Representative Cassio Cortez said right here? 584 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: Right? What did she say right here? 585 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 16: I think it's important that we understand that this is 586 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 16: not just about Senator Schumer, but that this is about 587 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 16: the Democratic Party. 588 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 5: Senator Schumer. 589 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 16: There's no one vote that ended the shutdown. 590 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 17: We are talking about an coordinated effort of eid senators 591 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 17: with the knowledge of Leader Schumer, voting to white with 592 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 17: the entire Democratic Party in exchange for nothing. 593 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: In case you don't know what it means, because I 594 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: know you do. 595 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: She's talking only about Senator Schumer, and she's running for 596 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: the Senate. She is blaming every bit of Democrats splitting 597 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: and not listening to their leader on Schumer. She's blaming 598 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: all this failure on Schumer. She's running for the Senate. 599 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: There is no question, zero question. She's doing this. And 600 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: by the way, don't say, oh, that's great, She's going 601 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: to be formidable. She's going to be an issue. You 602 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: got the White House Press briefing that is scheduled to happen, 603 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: and we might hear from Democrats angry before they go 604 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: vote in the House. 605 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 2: Keep it here. 606 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats today. Why from Vaul Hartbeyer and 607 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: the Crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today. The White 608 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: House briefing expected soon. Caroline Lovett, the Press Secretary, to 609 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: take the stage. Right now, it's just an empty podium, 610 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: which happens from time to time. Democrats were supposed to 611 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: come out and have a whole conversation about the shutdown 612 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: and their thoughts and everything else in that's not happening. 613 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: That's not happening. Now now there the House Democratic leader 614 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: having a news conference. 615 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: Jakim Jefferies has been doing this still trying to convince 616 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: America that there is some what's the word Republican healthcare crisis. 617 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: It's always bad when you sneeze during the middle of 618 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: a radio show. Everybody who that's rough Tony Katz, Tony 619 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: Katz Today, good to be with you. Find everything I 620 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: do over at Tony Katz dot com. The briefing is 621 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: interesting because I do believe that there are a couple 622 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: of places where the White House is absolutely on their heels, 623 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: especially after that interview that President Trump did with lor 624 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: Ingram on Fox very specifically to the idea of allowing 625 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: in foreign students, and it's good for our universities otherwise 626 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: they'll go out of business. And you need foreigners with 627 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: H one B visas to train Americans because we don't 628 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: know how to get some things done. Even if you 629 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: were going to make that first argument, you can't make 630 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: the claim that you can't make it even sound like 631 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: he didn't make the claim. I want to be clear, 632 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: President Trump didn't make the claim that Americans can. He's 633 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: saying on certain things, some people don't have the training, 634 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,439 Speaker 1: and you need the people to do the training. He's 635 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: not wrong about that idea. I don't think he presented 636 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: it well in the slightest. I think he made a very, 637 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: very big mistake there. So we wait to hear this 638 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 1: this press conference, because not only about that, but about 639 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: the idea of foreign students going to US universities. 640 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 2: This is just a non starter, a non starter. 641 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: While we wait for that, I'm going to share with 642 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: you a story about a woman by the name of 643 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: Tish Hyman, and now she is the one. If you 644 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: caught the story last week, you heard the story of 645 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: a woman who was thrown out of a gold gym 646 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and she was thrown out because she 647 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: was complaining that there was a man inside the women's 648 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: locker room. She is, by her own admission, very very allowed, 649 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: a lesbian, and she is black, and she wants you 650 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: to know this as a matter of fact. She starts 651 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: this conversation with a guy by name a Senator Scott Wiener. 652 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: He's a state senator in California. 653 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: He is the guy most probably going to run for 654 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,959 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi's seat. 655 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: And she starts with letting you know who she is 656 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 2: and what she's about. 657 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 18: Senator Wayman, that's the only black lesbian. Please ask you 658 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 18: a question, because I flew here to do that. Okay, 659 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 18: As a lesbian woman who was attacked in a woman's 660 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 18: locker room at Golds Gym this week by a self 661 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 18: identifying trends women with a documenting history of domestic violence, 662 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 18: I'm deeply concerned about women's safety and female only faces. 663 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 18: What would you say to women who are seeking assurance 664 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 18: that their safety will be protected from men who, by 665 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 18: California law, can self idea as women and women only faces? 666 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 2: Sir, Please tell me. 667 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: How do you handle this their state, Senator. California law 668 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: allows for these things. 669 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 2: But women are being abused and women are being. 670 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: Attacked inside, whether it be a locker room, a bathroom, 671 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: et cetera. Now I agree that why she has to 672 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: say as a black lesbian, I don't know. She's very 673 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: into the identity politics. What she's about to find find 674 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: out is that the identity politics is nothing compared to 675 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: other identity politics. 676 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: For Senator Scott Wiener. 677 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 19: Yeah, so we want, I mean, everyone to be safe. 678 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 19: And we also know that you know, we have trans 679 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 19: trans people both. 680 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 20: Men and women to our men and women and so 681 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 20: uh you know, so if you're a trans women are. 682 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: Women sat He wants you to know the trans women 683 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: or women, when of course that's not true. Now, Scott 684 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: Wiener has a long history of pushing this kind of 685 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 1: thing of radicalness in this regard, there comes a moment 686 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: where the crowd when Tis Hyman states quite clearly, what 687 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: are you going to do to protect women? The crowd 688 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: booze her when she recognizes that trans women not women, 689 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: and we. 690 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 2: Want to know, are you going to protect women not 691 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: trans women? Women? Women? Trans women are to thing women. 692 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: Women Listen, we need. 693 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 5: To protect women's safety. 694 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: I was assaulted. No, they are not, they are men. 695 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 2: I was assaulted. 696 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: She's getting booed for speaking the truth of this, maybe 697 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: the first time that ever happened to her. 698 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 2: She stands up, but she starts yelling at this crowd. 699 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 19: I mean. 700 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: One of the things she yells is unless you're a 701 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 1: black woman, don't talk to me, which is again identity politics. 702 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: And what she is learning is that her identity politics 703 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: don't mean as much as these identity politics. 704 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: I'm I'm sorry that you were multiple times, and I 705 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 2: appreciate you. 706 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 9: Talking about it. 707 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 19: I think we need to detect the city. 708 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 2: Women, and. 709 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 19: Obviously that's incredibly according. I also know that trans women 710 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 19: are also brutalized in this country. So women and women 711 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 19: are brutalized in this country. 712 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,479 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we need to protect women, but trans women 713 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: are brutalized, and so we need to protect all women. 714 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: And then he has the the You might not have 715 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: caught it. The audio is a little low, and I 716 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: apologize women and cisgendered. Women are brutalized in this country. 717 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: So men who claim to be women are actually women, 718 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: but women who are actually women they have to be 719 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: called cisgendered somehow they need the different name, the man 720 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: being the woman that's a woman, the woman who is 721 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: a woman. Well that's something a little bit different. If 722 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,279 Speaker 1: you want to know how broken, how diseased this ideology is, there, 723 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: it is men are women and women are a part 724 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: of some kind of different group, and they should just 725 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: shut up and take it and into the crowd supporting 726 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: that very idea. It's horrifying and it is exactly where 727 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 1: the left is now. Someone's gonna say to me, Tony, 728 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: these things don't matter. And the election in Virginia proves 729 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: it because Winsome Earl Sears, the Republican, the tenant governor 730 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: who is running for governor against Abigail Svamberger, ran on 731 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: this and lost. 732 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's all that you're running on, you might very 733 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 2: well lose. 734 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: And the more I hear about that race and how 735 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: poorly her staff did and the total lack of outreach 736 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: and everything else, maybe resting on Laurels that somehow this 737 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: was gonna be one because Glenn Youngkin is already the 738 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: governor and of course nobody wants this madness from the left. 739 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 2: Mistake. 740 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: You have to run every race like you're down twenty points, 741 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: non stop, every day, all the time, without questions, selling 742 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: your story. 743 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 2: And you got to make sure you understand where Americans 744 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: are at. 745 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 1: And there are plenty people in Virginia because of the 746 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: shot down on other issues, having economic issues. 747 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 2: You gotta be in that fight. That doesn't mean that 748 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 2: these cultural fights aren't valuable. 749 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: And what center Scott Wiener, who I find despicable in 750 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: his past commentaries and past actions, Men are women? 751 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: How dare you say otherwise? 752 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 10: Oh? 753 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: And then there's women and cisgendered women. No, no, no, 754 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: there are women and there are men, and that is it. 755 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: And the mid terms are gonna matter. San Francisco is 756 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: going to vote for somebody who is telling you, ladies 757 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: that if you're an actual woman, you don't count as much. 758 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 2: He said the words, it's not me. How dare you 759 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 2: be upset that? I notice it's him? It is them. 760 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: It is the progressive left Democrats. I don't know where 761 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: they are. Oh, I'm sure there's a few, but they 762 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: ain't the ones charge. They're not the ones with the power, 763 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: and they're not the ones searching for the power. You 764 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: allow Democrats to get control of the House. As I've said, 765 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: they'll be inaugurated on January third, twenty twenty seven, and 766 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: they will impeach Donald Trump on January third, twenty twenty seven. 767 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: It's going to happen if they win. And if they win, 768 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 1: this is the kind of stuff they believe. This is 769 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: the kind of radicalness, whether you call it the Marxism 770 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: or anything else that they believe in. Can't give these 771 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 1: people power and women, you understand that this is just hate. 772 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: That man hates you and the people who believe in 773 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: this trans nonsense, as if somehow we ought to change 774 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 1: our lives and actually believe that men can be women. 775 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 2: They hate you. 776 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 1: I don't think you should hate yourself, and I don't 777 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: think you should hate your daughters. I don't think you 778 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: should take a back seat. I don't think you should 779 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: lay down and take it. So how about you don't 780 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: vote for them in the midterms. White House briefing is 781 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: coming up. I will bring it to you. Keep it 782 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: right here. 783 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today, the press briefing about to begin. 784 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 2: Waiting on Press Xtra. 785 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 1: Caroline Lovett, Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, good to be 786 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: with you live streaming over at YouTube YouTube dot com 787 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: slash Tony Katz and you could actually see it all 788 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: happening right there. 789 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 2: And as we wait for this to take place, we 790 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 2: have the story out of Utah. 791 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: It's a conversation about redistricting where a judge gave Democrats 792 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: a win, as is being described Utah District Court jug 793 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 1: by name of Diana Gibson rejecting the Republican approved congressional map. 794 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 2: Your map, No, but a map. 795 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: That carves out a Democrat leaning district. Yes, So what 796 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: Gibson decided is that the Utah map that they put 797 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: forward does not comply with Utah law, saying it was 798 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: drawn with part of send political data on display. It 799 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: does not abide probably a certain proposition traditional restricting redistricting 800 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,919 Speaker 1: criteria to the greatest extent, practical, practicable. That's what it says, 801 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: and it says bates On Evans presented the court finds 802 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 1: of the Republican House map was drawn with the purpose 803 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: to favor Republicans. 804 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 2: Every map ever has been drawn to favor the party 805 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 2: in power. This is not new. 806 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: This would give Democrats a pick up. Now, you start 807 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: this redistricting fight, and you have to accept the fact 808 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: that you might lose. 809 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 2: If you redistrict the state. 810 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: Like Texas who said that Republicans are absolutely going to win, 811 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: you redistrict California who said Democrats are going to win 812 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: my state. 813 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 2: Indiana is still debating this. I think the answer is 814 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 2: very clear. Yeah, you have to do it, and you 815 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 2: have to do it right now. Of course you have 816 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 2: to do it. Unquestionable, you have to do it. 817 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: It's not like the Democrats are going to say, well, 818 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 1: they didn't redistrict. 819 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm not gonna show up to vote. 820 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: The argument's gonna be it has been, Oh, you're energizing 821 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: Democrats to vote. You're gonna energize the more on a 822 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: bad economy. You're gonna energize, the more on beef prices. 823 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna energize the more on a host of things. 824 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: Of course you are, of course you are. And you 825 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: can mollify that with saying, look how we lowered energy costs, 826 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: and look how we lowered drug costs, and look at this, 827 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: and look at that at being more proactive and engaging 828 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: out there. But if judges are going to say you 829 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: can't have your map, even though the drawing of the 830 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 1: map is a. 831 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 2: Legislative process, I mean, I do not know if this 832 00:48:54,440 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 2: goes to the Supreme Court or not. I do not 833 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 2: know how that's going to work. 834 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: I do know that there's a Utah Republican who is 835 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: now filed articles of impeachment against the judge, arguing she's 836 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: engaged in a gross abuse of power failing to uphold 837 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: her oath of office to the Utah Constitution. 838 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 2: I hope everybody. 839 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: Understands it's just because you put something out into the sphere, 840 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: you put an idea, out there. Doesn't mean that it's 841 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: one hundred percent going to work. You still have to 842 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: go about getting the votes. You still have to go 843 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,800 Speaker 1: about doing the work, and you still have to understand 844 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: what it is you're up against. You opened up this 845 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: conversation here, you opened up this idea of redistricting. 846 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 2: You got to see it through. As for my state, 847 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 2: I am still a supporter of redistricting. I have not 848 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 2: been moved. I have not been swayed. 849 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,439 Speaker 1: I have seen some people saying, well, the polling says 850 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: fifty one percent of the people of Indiana were called hoosiers. 851 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 1: By the way, they don't they don't favor that fifty 852 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: one percent. 853 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's enough to move me, so silly. The argument is, 854 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 2: if you have the power, do you utilize it? 855 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: That's the question. And you say to me, but Tony, 856 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: isn't that the whole problem. It's all about power and 857 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,720 Speaker 1: you think you should utilize this power. 858 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 2: And that's just so awful and so terrible. I bring 859 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 2: to you. 860 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: Eric Holder, Eric Holder, the former Attorney General of the 861 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: United States. 862 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 2: Of this nation. 863 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 21: I think you know the reality is it pains me 864 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 21: to say this. I think the Supreme Court is a 865 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 21: broken institution, and it's something that has to be I 866 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 21: think a part of the national conversation in twenty six 867 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 21: and in twenty eight, what are we going to do 868 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 21: about the Supreme Court? And I think that we have 869 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 21: to think about again talking about the acquisition and the 870 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 21: use of power. 871 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 2: If there is a. 872 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 21: Democratic trifecta in twenty twenty eight, and I think the 873 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 21: possibility of that's pretty good. Supreme Court reform is something 874 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 21: that has to be considered. Term limits, I think, at 875 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 21: a minimum, potentially expanding the court is something I think that. 876 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 2: Also should be should be considered. 877 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 1: Democrats have no issue with using their power, only seemingly 878 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: Republicans have got an issue or a fear with using 879 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: their power. That's a problem. That is a massive level 880 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: of weakness. And you say, well, the Democrats are wrong 881 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 1: to do it, that's not the argument. We're not going 882 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: to disagree on that. The point is they are doing it. 883 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: That's the point. They are doing it. 884 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 2: They are utilizing the they're telling you they're going to 885 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,280 Speaker 2: use that power. 886 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 22: On counterpoint, let me bring in this laws the sas 887 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 22: Ambassador Purdue and the team here at the White House. 888 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 2: From right there. Let me bring it to you we'll 889 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 2: meet the policy needed to crush the plague of fentanyl. 890 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 22: Deputy Attorney General Blinch and our teams have been hard 891 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 22: at work ever since, ultimately culminating in my trip to 892 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 22: Beijing last week. This was only possible due to President 893 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 22: Trump's historic engagement with President she just a few short 894 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 22: weeks ago that set the stage for today's announcement. At 895 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 22: that meeting, the leaders reached an agreement. But just to 896 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 22: put this in frame for the American people, a reminder 897 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 22: here that nearly one hundred thousand people died of fentanyl 898 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 22: overdoses just last year alone. Here this year, under this president, 899 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 22: the FBI sees nineteen hundred kilograms of fentanyl so far. 900 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 2: That is a thirty one percent increase. 901 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 22: From the same time period last year. To put it 902 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 22: in perspective, that's enough fentanyl to kill one hundred and 903 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 22: twenty seven million Americans. Fentanyl precursors are what makes up fentanyl. 904 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 22: While we the Interagency, the Department of Justice have been 905 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 22: fighting hard to seize and stop drug traffickers, we must 906 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 22: attack fentanyl precursors, the ingredients necessary to make this lethal drug. 907 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 22: That was the sole purpose of my trip to China 908 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 22: to eliminate these precursors, and if successful, we would suffocate 909 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 22: the drug trafficking organiation's ability to manufacture fentanyl in places 910 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 22: like Mexico. This was the first time an FBI director 911 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 22: has been to China in over a decade and receive 912 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 22: the audience with his counterpart to address this matter directly. 913 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: The real question here, FBI Director Cash would tell is 914 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 1: what's going to happen if China doesn't what will be 915 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 1: the response that the United States gives, which will most 916 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 1: probably be outside the purview of the FBI. 917 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 22: While at Ministry Public Security Headquarters, I met with my 918 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 22: counterpart at MPs where that Chinese government agreed on a 919 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,280 Speaker 22: plan to stop fentanyl precursors. 920 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 921 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 22: The People's Republic of China has fully designated and listed 922 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 22: all thirteen precursors utilized to make fentanyl. Furthermore, they have 923 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 22: agreed to control seven chemical subsidiaries that are also utilized 924 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 22: to produce this lethal drug effective immediately. Essentially, President Trump 925 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 22: has shut off the pipeline that creates fentanyl that kills 926 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 22: tens of thousands of Americans. 927 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: We'll keep listening to a Cashpattel, FBI Director on if 928 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: he's got more, I'll bring it to you. Movement on 929 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: fentanyl is always a good thing. But how do you 930 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 1: ensure that China lives up to their word and how 931 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: much is still out there? 932 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 2: That's the question. Keep it here. This is Tony Kax today. 933 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,439 Speaker 5: Onto the American public. But let's be clear. 934 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 13: The clean cr being voted on today in the House 935 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 13: of Representatives that will lead to the reopening of the 936 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 13: federal government is what President Trump and Republicans have supported 937 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 13: from day one. Our troops, air traffic controllers, and federal 938 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 13: employees will be back to receiving their regular paychecks, Families 939 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 13: in need will get back to receiving their food purchasing assistance, 940 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 13: and the people's government will soon be back open for business. 941 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: So starting with an announcer from FBI Director Cash Pttel 942 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: about the precursors of fentinel and getting the Ministry of 943 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 1: Commerce in China to say that they will make adjustments 944 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: and now require permits to be able to have those 945 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 1: things and to engage an export of those chemicals. Caroline 946 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: Levett there, White House Press sext. Sorry, moving into of 947 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: course the shutdown Democrats did this. Republicans are reopening the 948 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 1: government You're welcome, Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, great to 949 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: be with you. Let's take it back to Caroline Lovett 950 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: and the press briefing. 951 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 13: And that's exactly what President Trump has done since day 952 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 13: one of his administration. Since the first day in office, 953 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 13: in every day since, the Trump administration has taken aggressive 954 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 13: action to fix the Biden created cost of living issues. 955 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 13: The notion that the same Democrats who just shut down 956 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 13: the federal government to sabotage our economy, rob people of 957 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 13: their paychecks, and also helped Joe Biden ratchet up inflation 958 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 13: to nine percent are now suddenly affordability champions. That notion 959 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,280 Speaker 13: is completely absurd and it's something only the liberal media 960 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 13: would have the goal to push. But the reality is 961 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 13: that President Trump and his administration have done so much 962 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,320 Speaker 13: to lower prices and increase the economic prosperity of the 963 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 13: American people, and this president and his team of amazing 964 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 13: economic advisors are going to keep working on this issue 965 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 13: every single day. In less than ten short months, President 966 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 13: Trump signed the largest middle class tax cuts in American history, 967 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 13: including no tax on tips, over time and Social Security, 968 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 13: which will guarantee that next year Americans are going to 969 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,400 Speaker 13: put more money back into their pockets. The President has 970 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 13: completely unleashed American energy dominance to help bring gasoline prices 971 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 13: to the lowest and five years, and. 972 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 5: We expect them to continue to decrease. And it has 973 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 5: also lowered energy costs overall. 974 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 13: There is more work to do, but again, the President's 975 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 13: deregulatory and pro American energy agenda is absolutely going to 976 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 13: continue to drive down prices. This formula worked in the 977 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 13: President's first term and we expect that it's going to 978 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 13: work again. And this is key because we know energy 979 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 13: costs are the number one driver of inflation. Again, just 980 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 13: look at what Joe Biden did to our energy industry 981 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 13: over the past four years of his administration and look 982 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 13: at what happened to inflation as a result. 983 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: So this is the White House continuing to now put 984 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: out some messaging things are better, your life is better off. 985 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 2: Look at what we've done. 986 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 1: They're going to try and counter message, and they're going 987 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: to try and bring those toll numbers into a better line, 988 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: and they're going to get America to understand that they're 989 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 1: better off. Some lower grocery prices will go a long way, 990 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 1: Some lower insurance prices will go a long way movement 991 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: in those areas matter. But I don't think the President 992 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: is doing anything wrong by saying, hey, look at what 993 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 1: we've already done, even if it doesn't affect you, Look 994 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 1: at these things we've done. The no tax on tips, 995 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 1: that's a small segment of the population, insurance costs, large 996 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 1: segments of the population. 997 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:35,959 Speaker 5: Continue to work. 998 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 13: Wages are rising at the fastest pace of the start 999 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 13: of a presidential administration in sixty years. The cost of 1000 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 13: the typical new mortgage is down by nearly three thousand 1001 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 13: dollars per year. There's much work to do in this administration, 1002 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 13: will continue to do it, but President Trump has already 1003 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 13: made great progress in cleaning up the economic disaster that 1004 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 13: was created by Joe Biden. 1005 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 5: With that, I will take your questions today in our 1006 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 5: new media scenes. 1007 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 13: Who works outlet a UK outlet but based here in Washington, 1008 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 13: d C GB News BEV, thank you for being here today. 1009 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 5: Why don't you to kick us off? 1010 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 23: Thank you, Caroline. 1011 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 5: So the clock is ticking on the Friday dead. 1012 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 24: Light by which the BBC must retract and apologize for 1013 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 24: their malicious edits of President In the documentary shown last year, 1014 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 24: the recently resigned director General of the BBC yesterday described the. 1015 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 25: Organization as the very best of society and blamed the 1016 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 25: enemies of the BBC for this outcome. Also yesterday, a 1017 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 25: senior government minister launched a fierce defense of the channel. 1018 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 23: In the House of Commons, saying that the broadcaster remains 1019 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 23: a light on the hill for people all over the world. 1020 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 23: So does the President feel that the network is taking 1021 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 23: this situation seriously? Does he believe that they've shown sufficiently 1022 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 23: bred does this strain relationship between the President and the 1023 00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 23: Prime Minister? 1024 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 2: And given that the the question about the BBC. But 1025 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,440 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Kiir Starmer has his own issues. 1026 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 5: I'll get to that and his conceives of truth and justice. 1027 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 13: Well, thank you, Bev. There's a lot of questions in 1028 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 13: one there. I will say I know the President has 1029 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 13: a very good relationship with Prime Minister Starmer. You have 1030 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 13: been there and you've seen them in their interactions. You've 1031 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 13: questioned both leaders in your time joining us when we've 1032 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 13: gone to the United Kingdom a few different times now. However, 1033 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 13: he has always been very frank when he disagrees with leaders, 1034 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 13: even whom he has a good relationship with, And the 1035 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,840 Speaker 13: BBC being a fair news organization is definitely an outlet. 1036 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 5: I think these two leaders would disagree. 1037 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 13: The President has made it very clear that this is 1038 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 13: a leftist propaganda machine that is unfortunately subsidized by British 1039 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 13: tax payers, and he thinks that's extremely unfortunate for the 1040 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 13: great people of the United Kingdom in Great Britain. And 1041 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 13: I think that the President was deeply concerned by the editing, 1042 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 13: the purposeful and dishonest editing of his speech that was 1043 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 13: so clearly fake news. And he rightfully dubbed that term 1044 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 13: many years ago. And this is a classic example of that. 1045 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 13: We see it in the United States all the time, 1046 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 13: we see it now in the United Kingdom. As you know, 1047 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 13: the President's external legal counsel has filed a lawsuit against 1048 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 13: the BBC. We expect that to continue, and whether they 1049 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 13: apologize or not is up to them. Thanks for being here, 1050 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 13: bev Weja. 1051 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 16: Thank you, Caroly Sure. 1052 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 5: I have your statement about the new st emails that 1053 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:25,440 Speaker 5: have been a. 1054 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 2: This about Epstein emails that the New York Times rack. 1055 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 2: Can you address their substance? 1056 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 7: Did the President ever spend hours at Jeffrey Epstein's house 1057 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 7: with a victim? 1058 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 13: These emails proved absolutely nothing other than the fact that 1059 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 13: President Trump did nothing wrong. And what President Trump has 1060 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 13: always said is that he was from Palm Beach, and 1061 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 13: so was Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein was a member at 1062 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 13: Mar A Lago until President Trump kicked him out because 1063 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 13: Jeffrey Epstein was a pedophile. 1064 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 5: And he was a creep. And this email you refer 1065 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 5: to with the name. 1066 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 13: Of a victim that was unredacted now and has since 1067 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,360 Speaker 13: been reported on in this room, So I will go 1068 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 13: ahead and say it Virginia Guphrey. And it was CBS's 1069 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 13: own reporting WIJA that recently wrote that missus Guphfrey maintained, 1070 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 13: and God rest her soul, that she maintained that there 1071 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 13: was nothing inappropriate. She ever witnessed that President Trump was 1072 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 13: always extremely professional and friendly to her. And so I 1073 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 13: think it's a question worth asking the Democrat Party, and 1074 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 13: you should all go ask them after this briefing of 1075 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 13: why they chose to redact that name of a victim 1076 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 13: who has already publicly made statements about her relationship with 1077 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,439 Speaker 13: Jeffrey Epstein. 1078 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 5: Is and is unfortunately no longer with us. 1079 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 13: Mary, Thank you got two questions on this in the 1080 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 13: interest of transparency, Why not just go ahead and release 1081 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 13: the full files on Epstein. 1082 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 5: Get this all over with. 1083 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 13: We have This administration has done more with respect to 1084 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,439 Speaker 13: transparency when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein than any administration ever. 1085 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 13: In fact, this administration, the Department of Justice, has turned 1086 01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 13: over tens of thousands of document to the American people. 1087 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 13: We are cooperating and joint support for the House Oversight Committee. 1088 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 13: That's part of the reason you are seeing these documents 1089 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 13: that were released today because of the House Oversite Committees. 1090 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 2: In this was after you said it didn't matter. 1091 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: So the pushback makes sense even if what it is 1092 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: being reported is an accurate which is what I said 1093 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:22,439 Speaker 1: about the New York Times piece. 1094 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 2: I haven't read it yet. It just came out. 1095 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 1: I need to go over but trusting the New York 1096 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 1: Times on its face, no, that's not happening. As for 1097 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 1: the BBC, the BBC shared some video President Trump from 1098 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: the January sixth and edited the video so it didn't 1099 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 1: show him saying peacefully protest, and the director of the 1100 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: BBC and another head of the BBC both resigned because 1101 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: of it. 1102 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 2: And they're trying to make the claim that we will 1103 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 2: not give in to these foreign powers and what they think. 1104 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: The BBC has been engaged in a tremendous amount of 1105 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: unfair reporting, fraudulent reporting. 1106 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 2: They did it right now on Trump. 1107 01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: They did it regarding the Israelis and the war in 1108 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Gaza because of Hamas, and they're taking of terrorists and 1109 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 1: their murder and that's who Amas is and the support 1110 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 1: that Palestinians gave them. BBC has a lot to answer 1111 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 1: for here. So the argument is the BBC clearly is 1112 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 1: not in a business of being honest brokers, anything but 1113 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 1: being honest brokers. So that's where that bb story is 1114 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: a BBC story is. As for kir Starmer, more and 1115 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 1: more voices saying he has lost the government, he has 1116 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 1: lost the people. He is not protecting the British people. 1117 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 1: He's too busy protecting immigrants who push a value system 1118 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with British. 1119 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 2: Law but has everything to do with Islamic law. 1120 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: We've had enough of losing our country to these people, 1121 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 1: enough of people telling us that somehow we're the bad 1122 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 1: guys as British citizens. You could be sure that I 1123 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: shouldn't say sure. 1124 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 2: You should not be. 1125 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 1: Surprised if you see a change or there some kind 1126 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 1: of movement in British government very very soon. 1127 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 2: Back to the briefing with a Caroline Levitt. 1128 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the President had an input on this 1129 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 1: element of the deal and if he's at all disappointed 1130 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: that's the reverse the downsized and that during the shutdown. 1131 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 13: I mean, look, I think it's about six thousand workers 1132 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 13: total when you look at that in comparison to the reduction. 1133 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 2: In the federal shutdown. 1134 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 5: Piece of llustration has done since January to get rid 1135 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 5: of the waste. 1136 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 13: The fraud, the abuse, and to reduce the size of 1137 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 13: our federal bureaucracy. We've done a lot of great work 1138 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 13: on that front and we will continue to. But obviously 1139 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 13: the President's main priority was to reopen the federal government 1140 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 13: and get people back to work, and that's what this 1141 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 13: deal accomplishes. 1142 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 5: The middle is and there's workforce. Israeli media that the 1143 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 5: US is considering building a temper and military based on 1144 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 5: the gaus of order. 1145 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 17: You can confirm these reports. 1146 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 13: So I had a conversation directly with the reporter who 1147 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 13: wrote this article, and this article was based on a 1148 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 13: single piece of paper, an inquiry that somebody in the 1149 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,040 Speaker 13: Department of Navy made about an idea that may happen 1150 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 13: in the future, and this reporter deemed that as an 1151 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 13: official plan and ran with a story that the United 1152 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 13: States is. 1153 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 5: Looking into it. 1154 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 13: I checked with the highest levels of the United States 1155 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 13: federal government. This is not something the United States is 1156 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 13: interested in being engaged in. It's not something we are 1157 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 13: currently involved in right now that we will be funding. 1158 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 13: And the President has been very clear he doesn't want 1159 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 13: to see boots on the ground with respect to what's 1160 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 13: happening in the Middle East. We've made great peace, We've 1161 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,280 Speaker 13: made great progress with the peace Plan in Gaza, and 1162 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 13: we want to continue to see that move forward. 1163 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: But President doesn't want to see boots on the grounds. 1164 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 1: More coming up, keep it here. This is Tony kats today, 1165 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 1: seriously looking. 1166 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:47,120 Speaker 5: Into sure thanks to Danny and then go ahead. 1167 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 12: Thank you. 1168 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 26: Some Democratic members of Congress have invited Britain's former Prince 1169 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 26: Andrew to testify on the Epstein scandal. Just wondering if 1170 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 26: President Trump thinks that the former Prince Andrew should indeed 1171 01:06:59,360 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 26: come and testify. 1172 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 19: It's coed gross on that. 1173 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 13: I haven't spoken to him about that specific matter, but 1174 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 13: I can ask him and get. 1175 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 16: Back to you. 1176 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 2: On the White House Press creeping continues. Tony goats Tony. 1177 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: Gots today to questions being asked the Press Secretary. 1178 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 27: Of Caroline Love that while the r policy while the 1179 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 27: government was shut down, now, assuming that it reopens tonight, 1180 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 27: as the President intending to invite any Democrats over to 1181 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 27: have negotiations. 1182 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,920 Speaker 5: Over these subsidies or any other plan to bring down 1183 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 5: the cost. 1184 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 13: Of health insurance, I will just add that, as you 1185 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 13: pointed out, the Democrats were holding our country hostage to 1186 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 13: try to negotiate on a healthcare system that they created. Obamacare, 1187 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 13: as it's famously called, is a system the Democrats created. 1188 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 5: It is a broken system. 1189 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 13: It has driven up healthcare costs dramatically in this country, 1190 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:46,959 Speaker 13: and now they shut the government down to try. 1191 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 5: To fix that system they broke. It doesn't make any 1192 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 5: sense to. 1193 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 1: Us, which is and I think it's a good argument 1194 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 1: to say, what are you talking about negotiating with these people? 1195 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Look what they did, Look what they favor, Look what 1196 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 1: they're about when it comes to healthcare. None of this 1197 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: had to do with us. It was all that America 1198 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: gets it. It's the Democrats fault. Now, Progressives don't get it, 1199 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 1: but they don't get much. And this is the messaging 1200 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 1: that you have to keep putting out there. And it 1201 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 1: also happens to be good for the Trump administration and 1202 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 1: for Republicans because they are correct. America is going to 1203 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 1: side more with the fact that Democrats put this thing together. 1204 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 2: It doesn't work. They are the ones that didn't vote 1205 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 2: to reopen the government. It's on them. And now Democrats are. 1206 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,559 Speaker 1: Angry that we're reopening the government because Democrats are rather 1207 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:29,759 Speaker 1: children starve. 1208 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 2: What it's their terminology, I'm just using it. 1209 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 5: On this clarifying he wants to do both things. 1210 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 13: With the tariff revenue that he's bringing into this country, 1211 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 13: trillions of dollars are expected to continue to pour in, 1212 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 13: and it's part of the reason that the Supreme Court 1213 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,919 Speaker 13: case is so vital for our country's future. To restore 1214 01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 13: our manufacturing industry in this country, to protect our national security, 1215 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 13: to continue to allow the President to use tariffs as 1216 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 13: leverage to negotiate economic deals that are again are good 1217 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,479 Speaker 13: for an national security, and that revenue can then be 1218 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 13: used for various reasons, to pay down our debt and 1219 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,719 Speaker 13: also perhaps to give these rebate checks back to Americans, 1220 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:08,840 Speaker 13: which again the White House is. 1221 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 2: Best, Starry said, they may not be rebate checks not great. 1222 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 5: Financial shield to the need to restart. 1223 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 1: It's not It's not great on tariff because it still 1224 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,680 Speaker 1: leads the idea that we're paying more. In the end, 1225 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 1: we're paying more, and it's hard to argue it's so 1226 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 1: much better for the country. The trade deals are good 1227 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 1: only if we see results. If the White House wants 1228 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 1: to share something, let's talk about the result of a 1229 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 1: trade deal. We set this deal because of tariffs, and 1230 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:50,240 Speaker 1: now we see the result in X, here's the actual result. 1231 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: Share that, Caroline Levit, Share that White House and you 1232 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: will now see movement in a positive direction that hasn't 1233 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:02,080 Speaker 1: happened yet only a the top line, we're taking in money. 1234 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Look at us. That that is that is that is 1235 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 1: all we're getting, and it's not enough. It is in 1236 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:19,120 Speaker 1: every single way not enough. A short I'm even even 1237 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 1: for Caroline Levitt standards, A short press briefing taking place 1238 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:30,960 Speaker 1: right there ended quicker than I think the room was expecting. 1239 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:31,439 Speaker 2: For sure. 1240 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,320 Speaker 1: So we have a vote today in the House, as 1241 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,719 Speaker 1: all the procedural hurdles have been passed, and that should 1242 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,839 Speaker 1: lead to the end of the shutdown on the President's 1243 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 1: desk again. I'm really surprised by the movement. I was 1244 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 1: expecting more hurdles put in the way, but the angry Democrats. 1245 01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,680 Speaker 1: That isn't going to go away anytime soon. That is 1246 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: not going on a shelf. This is going to be visceral. 1247 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 1: And why because Republicans didn't. 1248 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 2: Do what they were supposed to do. They didn't cave. 1249 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,799 Speaker 1: And I don't think we're paying enough attention to exactly 1250 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,120 Speaker 1: how Democrats are reacting to that. 1251 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 2: Keep it here. 1252 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:26,880 Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today. Why from ball Hartbiner and 1253 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:34,200 Speaker 1: the Crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today. Privately, Democrats 1254 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 1: are infuriated that the shutdown is coming to an end. 1255 01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 1: But publicly, Democrats are infuriated that the shutdown is coming 1256 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 1: to an end. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to 1257 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 1: be with you. I got to admit I am surprised 1258 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 1: by the speed. I didn't think things would move in 1259 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:57,639 Speaker 1: the Senate that quickly. You have the senators that came over, 1260 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,519 Speaker 1: joining people like Senator John Bevean, You got the senators 1261 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,800 Speaker 1: from New Hampshire, Angus King, the Independent of Maine, and 1262 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:05,600 Speaker 1: they say, you. 1263 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:06,639 Speaker 2: Know, what this is over? 1264 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 1: And Democrats say what, Why in the world would you 1265 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:15,559 Speaker 1: call this over? That's ridiculous, that's insane. It shouldn't be over. 1266 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,240 Speaker 1: What in the world are you talking about? 1267 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 2: Over? 1268 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 14: Over? 1269 01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,560 Speaker 2: You say over? Nothing is over until we decided it is. 1270 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 2: Was it over? When the Sherman's bon peer. 1271 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 1: It's very hard to disagree with Senator Blutarski there, but 1272 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,320 Speaker 1: they couldn't believe it. 1273 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 2: You're giving in to the Republicans. Democrats don't know how 1274 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 2: to give in. 1275 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,320 Speaker 1: They've been extremely good at this since they have no 1276 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,759 Speaker 1: shame and they don't care what actually happens. They're totally 1277 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: fine with applying pressure, applying pressure and lying and having 1278 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: the media amplify those lies and applying pressure. So Republicans cave, 1279 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 1: Republicans give in, and Republicans didn't cave. 1280 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 2: And this, by the way, is the real story. 1281 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 1: The real anger from this shutdown is that Republicans didn't cave. 1282 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,760 Speaker 2: They didn't do what they were supposed to do. 1283 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 1: You are going to find that this moment has a 1284 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:18,400 Speaker 1: connectivity point to the two thousand election when the Supreme 1285 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 1: Court said we're done with the recount. Here George Bush 1286 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,599 Speaker 1: has more votes in Florida. He's the president. We're done. 1287 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 2: That moment for the political left was what bah blah 1288 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 2: blah blah blahah are the courts belong to us? These 1289 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 2: are our courts. No, wait, what do you mean it's over? 1290 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,519 Speaker 2: What in the world are you talking about? It's over over? 1291 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,880 Speaker 2: You say over? Yeah, I can't do it twice. That's 1292 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:43,640 Speaker 2: just ridiculous. 1293 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 1: And there if you want to talk about where the 1294 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 1: real anger was, where the real birth of progressivism in 1295 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:57,920 Speaker 1: the mainstream was, it's that. Everything I think comes from 1296 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,840 Speaker 1: that moment as a massive of tipping point to the 1297 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 1: progressive landscape we see. 1298 01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:04,720 Speaker 2: I think this will add to it. 1299 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,679 Speaker 1: Oh, Republicans didn't cave to all our pressure and screaming 1300 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 1: Republican health care crisis and screaming about how Trump was 1301 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,639 Speaker 1: starving children. No, it's Democrats who are starving children. They 1302 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,320 Speaker 1: want kids to starve, they want this to go on. 1303 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to forgive so easily. And 1304 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,240 Speaker 1: not only not only are they not going to forgive 1305 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 1: their own people, They're not going to forgive Republicans for 1306 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 1: not playing the game. 1307 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 2: And what's the game? We complain? You capitulate? 1308 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:38,640 Speaker 1: See Oh oh no, no, no, no, expect things to 1309 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,640 Speaker 1: be worse in future quote unquote negotiations. 1310 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you think the left breaks from this, No, no, no, no, no, 1311 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 2: no no. 1312 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:51,639 Speaker 1: They they triple down into further insanity because they believe 1313 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:52,160 Speaker 1: you have. 1314 01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 2: To give in. 1315 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 1: Remember what the left believes if we talk about the 1316 01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,120 Speaker 1: government shutdown, right saying we're not going to vote for 1317 01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:05,519 Speaker 1: continuing resolution, as Democrats would not until you increase Obamacare subsidies, 1318 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 1: which I always argued Trump would do anyway. This was 1319 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 1: their argument. Illegals get healthcare, and we give subsidies for 1320 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act because we admit that it's not affordable. 1321 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 1: This was the whole and the totality of their argument. 1322 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 1: And they thought they could get Republicans to do their bidding. 1323 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,599 Speaker 2: And what did they say? Will sit down with anyone, anywhere, 1324 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 2: at any time, What does that matter? That's what we 1325 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,120 Speaker 2: said here. It doesn't matter. If you're willing to sit down, 1326 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:39,080 Speaker 2: you won't give in what you want. You don't understand that, 1327 01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,960 Speaker 2: to quote President Trump, you don't have the cards. You 1328 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 2: don't have it. What you're depending on is Republicans collapsing. 1329 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 2: And they didn't. 1330 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 1: And I have to believe that Republicans privately and Republicans 1331 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 1: in caucus meetings never said, my gosh, we didn't collapse. 1332 01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:04,000 Speaker 1: These people didn't cave. Huh, this is really interesting. I 1333 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,680 Speaker 1: wonder what else we won't cave on. I wonder what 1334 01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 1: else we can do now. I wonder how strong we 1335 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:16,439 Speaker 1: really are. I can't answer the question as to whether 1336 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 1: or not that message will really be received, but I 1337 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 1: got to assume, have to assume. So Republicans don't cave. 1338 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 1: Democrats are infuriated. They don't cave. Democrats cave, which is 1339 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 1: exactly what happens, and now there is a fallout. First 1340 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,240 Speaker 1: it gets through the Senate, it's already engaged some procedural 1341 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:39,320 Speaker 1: hurdles in the House, and we might see a vote 1342 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 1: on this today which could get it to the President's 1343 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:48,120 Speaker 1: desk by Friday, which would be fantastic. But check out 1344 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:54,680 Speaker 1: this is Tom Emmer. Tom Emmer is a congressman from Minnesota. 1345 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: He is what is hee the majority whip. He is 1346 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,920 Speaker 1: the majority whip. And this is. 1347 01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,680 Speaker 2: Checked us out. Check out his commentary right here. 1348 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,439 Speaker 28: You really think the Democrats you've talked to are not 1349 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 28: happy with him. 1350 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:12,920 Speaker 2: They shouldn't be. 1351 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,840 Speaker 28: He has not risen to the occasion, he thinks this 1352 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,640 Speaker 28: is a college young Democrats group, that this is America. 1353 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,280 Speaker 28: He's dealing with Americans lives. He's not playing a gotcha game, 1354 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 28: and that's what he thinks he's playing it. He just 1355 01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,519 Speaker 28: he's been a complete non factor in this whole process. 1356 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,639 Speaker 28: This has literally been driven by the aging Chuck Schumer 1357 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 28: in the Senate, Who's another guy who's passed his prime. 1358 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 28: He either consented to this deal Brian in the Senate, 1359 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 28: or he doesn't have control of his caucus over in 1360 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 28: the Senate. I think you're going to see leadership changes 1361 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 28: in both bodies. 1362 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,559 Speaker 1: He's talking about a team Jeffries, and he's talking about 1363 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,080 Speaker 1: Chuck Schummer, the aging Chuck Schumer. Tom Emmer sixty four 1364 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 1: by the way, So I don't know. I have no 1365 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 1: idea if we call that aging or not. I just 1366 01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 1: think it's interesting that that's the terminal that they're using, 1367 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:06,479 Speaker 1: the aging Chuck Schumer. And while Democrats are angry and 1368 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,560 Speaker 1: they may not be able to take it out on Republicans, 1369 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 1: they may take it out on other Democrats. I still 1370 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,320 Speaker 1: argue that a keem Draftfrees will be the leader of 1371 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:18,920 Speaker 1: the Democrats in the House. I cannot imagine that they're 1372 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,160 Speaker 1: going to do away with him, although I would not 1373 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 1: mind it. But let's see what they do in the 1374 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 1: House today regarding the vote. But in the Senate, oh, 1375 01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,400 Speaker 1: I think it's FATA complete, that Chuck Schumer is all done. 1376 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 2: I won't miss them, will you? I didn't think so. 1377 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Kats. This is Tony Katz today being war 1378 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,800 Speaker 2: fighting lethality. 1379 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:48,120 Speaker 29: As a senator mentioned training, discipline, accountability, readiness at the 1380 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,960 Speaker 29: forefront of everything we do at the Department of War. 1381 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,800 Speaker 2: That means no more social justice. 1382 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 29: No more political correctness, no more toxic ideological garbage that 1383 01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,799 Speaker 29: infected the department. As I've said before, but we repeat 1384 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 29: and we repeat because as a good old television host, 1385 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 29: you know, it takes a while for it to actually 1386 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:11,200 Speaker 29: sink in. No more identity months, no more DEI offices, 1387 01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,440 Speaker 29: no more dudes in dresses. 1388 01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:15,880 Speaker 2: No more climate change. 1389 01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:22,680 Speaker 29: It actually was a thing. 1390 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 2: It actually was a thing. 1391 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,160 Speaker 1: Nobody is questioning whether or not it was a thing, 1392 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:32,040 Speaker 1: mister Secretary Tony Katz. Tony Katz today going to be 1393 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,200 Speaker 1: with you. Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. That's 1394 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,519 Speaker 1: Pete Hegsett, the Secretary of War as we're now calling it, 1395 01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,679 Speaker 1: although there might need to be an official name change 1396 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 1: that has to take place, as opposed to saying Secretary 1397 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 1: of Defense. And he was speaking at the Northeast Indiana 1398 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Defense Summit. It's interesting and these kinds of things are 1399 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,880 Speaker 1: popping up. Senator Jim Banks of Indiana, when he was 1400 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:59,240 Speaker 1: a congressman, started this were there's a defense contracting business 1401 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 1: in Indiana, and there's some part of this in a 1402 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,240 Speaker 1: lot of states across the Midwest. A lot of important 1403 01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 1: bases here, there and everywhere, a lot of important contracts, 1404 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,360 Speaker 1: a lot of important work. Well, how do you put 1405 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 1: yourself on the map and engage conversations that are going 1406 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:18,960 Speaker 1: to get people interested, get interesting people, and hopefully create 1407 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 1: some investment. 1408 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:20,240 Speaker 2: In your state. 1409 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 1: So I always like this and very much approved of 1410 01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,560 Speaker 1: the idea, and I attended a couple wasn't able to 1411 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,280 Speaker 1: attend this year. And of course this is the upet 1412 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,680 Speaker 1: hegset comes to have a conversation. So this is to 1413 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,520 Speaker 1: a group of people, some in the world of contracting, 1414 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:41,479 Speaker 1: some not right defense contracting, but it's a smaller regional 1415 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 1: conversation I want. I was curious if if headsets conversation 1416 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 1: changes at all and as you heard, No, no, not 1417 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:53,479 Speaker 1: at all, not seemingly, not in the slightest. But I 1418 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 1: want to share with you some of what he said, 1419 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 1: because we don't always get we get to hear them 1420 01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 1: in these major spaces. But when you've got a group 1421 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,800 Speaker 1: ands a couple hundred people who are probably in attendance, 1422 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:04,960 Speaker 1: maybe more maybe for this one, there were three four 1423 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:09,080 Speaker 1: hundred people who are sitting in the room, what is 1424 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,360 Speaker 1: it that they're at, what is actually being discussed? What 1425 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,000 Speaker 1: is it that he's trying to get across. So this 1426 01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:16,719 Speaker 1: was Secretary Hegseth. 1427 01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,440 Speaker 29: No more climate change worship, no more division, no more delusions, 1428 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,120 Speaker 29: gender delusions or quotas, no more distraction. As the Chairman 1429 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,840 Speaker 29: of the Joint Chiefs puts it, Pete, you're clearing out 1430 01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 29: the debris. 1431 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:28,360 Speaker 7: That's what it is. 1432 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,000 Speaker 29: We're clearing out the debris from out front of NCOs 1433 01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:31,599 Speaker 29: and officers. 1434 01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 2: We're done with that stuff. It doesn't take a PhD 1435 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:34,840 Speaker 2: to understand this. 1436 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:36,759 Speaker 29: Sergeants don't need sensitivity training. 1437 01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 2: But we're taking the next step. 1438 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:44,160 Speaker 29: We're not just undoing damage, we're solidifying the way forward. 1439 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,799 Speaker 29: We're taking concrete steps to ensure that common sense rains. 1440 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:53,439 Speaker 29: Going forward, we're restoring a ruthless, dispassionate, and common sense 1441 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:58,759 Speaker 29: application of standards I don't want. I introduced a golden 1442 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,280 Speaker 29: rule test in a speed which I gave a quantico 1443 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 29: to a number of generals and senior enlisted. It is 1444 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,479 Speaker 29: do onto your formations that which you would have done 1445 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 29: onto your sons. Would you put your son or your 1446 01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,639 Speaker 29: daughter into the type of formation you are creating. It's 1447 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,320 Speaker 29: a very clarifying rule. So I don't want my son 1448 01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 29: serving alongside troops who are fat and out of shape, 1449 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 29: or in combat units with females who can't meet the 1450 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,599 Speaker 29: same combat arms physical standards as men in their units. 1451 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,840 Speaker 29: Standards must be uniform, gender neutral, and high. 1452 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 1: This is exactly the conversation he had when he assembled 1453 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 1: all the generals and admirals together. And people are like, 1454 01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 1: this wasn't necessary. It was absolutely necessary. Let's say it 1455 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,080 Speaker 1: again for the people in the cheap seats. We do 1456 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,800 Speaker 1: have a problem in our military, and this idea that 1457 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 1: somehow we as the civilians. 1458 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 2: Can't make a note of this and make changes to 1459 01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,080 Speaker 2: this is nonsense. 1460 01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,680 Speaker 1: When Trump said he knows more than the generals, I 1461 01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 1: could appreciate people saying that's just ridiculous. But he did 1462 01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,720 Speaker 1: not take into consideration, or at least they didn't. Is 1463 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:06,439 Speaker 1: the number of generals who were indeed ridiculous. Let's take 1464 01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: a look at their track record, never mind their ideology, 1465 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,720 Speaker 1: never mind what it is that they were brought up 1466 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 1: with in the ranks, and they were able to move 1467 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 1: up politically, because to be a general, you're moving up 1468 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 1: politically and what it is you have to say, do 1469 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,880 Speaker 1: and believe. Of course, we need to change as and 1470 01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,360 Speaker 1: we need to change what it was doing to the 1471 01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,720 Speaker 1: troops down the line, to the troops who are going 1472 01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,519 Speaker 1: to be on the front line, to the troops who 1473 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,640 Speaker 1: do the fighting. You must have a focused force and 1474 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:35,240 Speaker 1: you must indeed have a standard. This conversation is still happening, 1475 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 1: same exact one. Pete hegsett not changing who he is 1476 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 1: for a specific group. This is good stuff and he's right, 1477 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,639 Speaker 1: and we need to be supporting this in every single way. 1478 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 2: It's simple. 1479 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:57,040 Speaker 29: It's colorblind, gender neutral, merit based, colorblind, gender neutral, merit based. 1480 01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 29: That's what the military should be because if they're not 1481 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 29: in the standard, then they're just suggestions, suggestions that get 1482 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 29: our sons and daughters killed in combat. And that's why 1483 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 29: I've directed every service to ensure that every requirement and 1484 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 29: every combat mos returns to the highest male standard, only 1485 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:20,360 Speaker 29: one standard across those combat jobs. If females make it fantastic, 1486 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,880 Speaker 29: then they're most qualified for that position. 1487 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:24,160 Speaker 2: If not, then so be it. 1488 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,600 Speaker 29: It's not about what gender makes it into what positions 1489 01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,120 Speaker 29: are the standards meet, the duty and the position. Because 1490 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,320 Speaker 29: a body on a battlefield that all one five five 1491 01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:36,560 Speaker 29: round weighs the same whether you're a man or a woman. So, 1492 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,880 Speaker 29: in line with Potus's common sense agenda, the first item 1493 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,400 Speaker 29: of what we're undertaking inside the Department of War is 1494 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,880 Speaker 29: restoring the warrior ethos. So a lot of what I 1495 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 29: just said falls into the category of restoring the warrior ethos. 1496 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,320 Speaker 29: And it's up and down the ranks. As I mentioned 1497 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 29: that speech at Quantico, whether you're an airborne ranger or 1498 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 29: a chairborne ranger, a brand new private, or a four 1499 01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,559 Speaker 29: star general in the Pentagon, you need to beat height 1500 01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:01,080 Speaker 29: and weight standards and pass. 1501 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,200 Speaker 2: A PT test twice a year. 1502 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 29: I also said, we don't need to be in military 1503 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,479 Speaker 29: of beardos anymore. Do you know how many troops claim 1504 01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,840 Speaker 29: to be Nordic pagan No Suddenly it's become like this. 1505 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,800 Speaker 5: Real religious, fake religious affiliation. 1506 01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 29: Inside the Pentagon, where troops claim to be Nordic pagan 1507 01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:21,759 Speaker 29: so they can grow a beard and no one challenges 1508 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,560 Speaker 29: them on it because no one's upheld standards for a 1509 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,080 Speaker 29: long time. So a quarter of the platoon is sporting 1510 01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,880 Speaker 29: beards because they're now suddenly Nordic pagans. We're not doing 1511 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:30,679 Speaker 29: that stuff anymore. 1512 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,560 Speaker 2: For me, I don't know if I care if a 1513 01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,519 Speaker 2: soldier has a beard, but I don't think it's about 1514 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,760 Speaker 2: whether or not I care. And this becomes a. 1515 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,000 Speaker 1: Very interesting conversation about whether or not people can accept 1516 01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:47,639 Speaker 1: the fact maybe their feelings don't matter at all. How 1517 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,760 Speaker 1: I feel about a beard is inconsequential. What the military 1518 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,080 Speaker 1: is saying is we do it this way, and upholding 1519 01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,320 Speaker 1: the standard is not just about a look. It's about 1520 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:03,200 Speaker 1: an attitude. And this seems to blow people's minds. By 1521 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:08,320 Speaker 1: saying we don't do beards, we're saying that there's a reason, 1522 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 1: and the reason is not just because we think some 1523 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,040 Speaker 1: of you do it' scraggly and it doesn't look professional. 1524 01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:18,800 Speaker 1: It's because we're all in this together, and we do 1525 01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:24,439 Speaker 1: this together and we share these standards together and in 1526 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,880 Speaker 1: that you build the bonds of brotherhood, and you build 1527 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 1: the strength. 1528 01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,200 Speaker 2: And the consistency. And this is exactly what matters. 1529 01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,800 Speaker 1: And those of you who served, tell me tell me 1530 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 1: how right I am. If I'm wrong, I mean, also 1531 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,559 Speaker 1: tell me I'm wrong. But really, isn't there this serious, serious, 1532 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,400 Speaker 1: important issue about how well we are connected, how well 1533 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:46,799 Speaker 1: we are in this together? 1534 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,799 Speaker 2: Because you got to rely on the person next. 1535 01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:50,880 Speaker 3: To you, you have to. 1536 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,320 Speaker 1: And there are these things, small things and large things 1537 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 1: that create these bonds, and the bonds are valuable, invaluable. 1538 01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,360 Speaker 2: This is this is the way. 1539 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,960 Speaker 1: And of course people who have no concept of such 1540 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,880 Speaker 1: things believe that their feelings should matter. This is where 1541 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,920 Speaker 1: the minds are blown apart comes in. The leftist is 1542 01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:20,000 Speaker 1: not oft told that their feelings don't matter when it 1543 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:21,679 Speaker 1: comes to the military. I don't give a good holy 1544 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,640 Speaker 1: damn about your progressive feelings. Don't care about anything. I 1545 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 1: care only and solely about unit readiness. Years ago I 1546 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,519 Speaker 1: had this conversation with somebody who knew far more about 1547 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,839 Speaker 1: the military than I and his argument. 1548 01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:42,200 Speaker 2: It was Brian Suit's radio host out of Los Angeles. 1549 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:43,559 Speaker 2: Very very good guy. 1550 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,040 Speaker 1: I think he might now be in the Seattle area 1551 01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,759 Speaker 1: doing radio. A smart dude, good dude. And his argument 1552 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 1: was was that the concept of transgender did not actually affect. 1553 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:00,360 Speaker 2: Readiness. 1554 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,920 Speaker 1: He didn't believe that it did based on his observations 1555 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,080 Speaker 1: and his conversations. 1556 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,120 Speaker 2: Mixed sexes affected unit. 1557 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 1: Readiness because that led to sexual tension and that led 1558 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:17,559 Speaker 1: to distractions, not trans to anything. And I said, okay, interesting, interesting, interesting. 1559 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,800 Speaker 1: I should always have in those conversations anytime I brought 1560 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 1: that up clarified that as to say, okay, that's one 1561 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:30,519 Speaker 1: person's opinion, It doesn't make it universally true. And the 1562 01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:34,639 Speaker 1: only thing that I care about is unit readiness. When 1563 01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,240 Speaker 1: the moment comes to kill the enemy? 1564 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,640 Speaker 2: Are we prepared? Are we ready? Can we do it? 1565 01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,400 Speaker 2: Are they trained? Are they focused? The end? 1566 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,559 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I can't imagine anything else matters. 1567 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 1: But to the left is progressive. There might be a 1568 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 1: dozen things that matter. 1569 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:52,559 Speaker 2: They're wrong And. 1570 01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:56,760 Speaker 1: If that's the ideology that has infiltrated generals and admirals, 1571 01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,280 Speaker 1: well then yes they have to go. 1572 01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,640 Speaker 2: Yes Trump is smarter than them, and yes so is 1573 01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,439 Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth. 1574 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,879 Speaker 1: People can tell me all they want, and Hegseth wasn't qualified, 1575 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:07,920 Speaker 1: and Hegseth not this, and Hexath not that. And it's 1576 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 1: weird as a guy who was, you know, never a 1577 01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,400 Speaker 1: Fox employee, but I spent plenty of time on the 1578 01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,639 Speaker 1: couch there with Fox and Friends and Fox and Friends 1579 01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:16,679 Speaker 1: Weekend and everything else. 1580 01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 2: Interviewed by Pete. It's very weird to think of like 1581 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,599 Speaker 2: I was talking to this dude and always the Secretary 1582 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:24,960 Speaker 2: of War. It's kind of nutty. 1583 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,120 Speaker 1: It's gotta be nuttier for the people who actually worked there. 1584 01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:33,679 Speaker 1: But he has proven himself to the task. Some mistakes, sure, 1585 01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:40,600 Speaker 1: some hiccups, Well, who hasn't. You're able to engage a 1586 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,920 Speaker 1: planning of the bombing of Foordeaux, Natan's in Isfahan, these 1587 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:50,479 Speaker 1: Iranian nuclear facilities without a single leak of bravissimo, and 1588 01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:54,559 Speaker 1: you're engaging a conversation that we ain't the military of old, 1589 01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,000 Speaker 1: We're the military of purpose. 1590 01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,599 Speaker 2: That is valuable. 1591 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,720 Speaker 1: I'll applaud that every day of the week, and all 1592 01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:07,680 Speaker 1: applaud Secretary Hesea for getting it done. Back to a 1593 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:12,080 Speaker 1: speech there in Northern Indiana. This is taking place at 1594 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,719 Speaker 1: the Northeast Indiana Defense Summit just earlier today. 1595 01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 29: The idea is it's sort of the broken windows theory 1596 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,200 Speaker 29: of policing. There'll be some people that say, well, why 1597 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:26,360 Speaker 29: would a secretary care about beards and PT standards? It's 1598 01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:27,880 Speaker 29: the same thing, Well, why would a mayor of New 1599 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,400 Speaker 29: York care about squeegeemen or about broken windows. It's because 1600 01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,400 Speaker 29: when you let the small things go, you create a 1601 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,080 Speaker 29: climate of criminality. But when you let the small things 1602 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,880 Speaker 29: go inside your formations, you just create a climate of 1603 01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,519 Speaker 29: a lack of discipline where standards cannot be enforced. And 1604 01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,320 Speaker 29: if you can't enforce them on the small things, it 1605 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,280 Speaker 29: gets far more difficult to enforce them on even more 1606 01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 29: meaningful things. 1607 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:50,400 Speaker 2: I told Jim, I mean, I just. 1608 01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:55,479 Speaker 1: It is what it is transforming our military matters, and 1609 01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,439 Speaker 1: I'm glad that it's being done. I'm Tony Katz. This 1610 01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:05,680 Speaker 1: is Tony Kats today. I think one of the big 1611 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,320 Speaker 1: problems we have is that we don't have a good 1612 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:11,439 Speaker 1: definition of terms. We hear about these things happening, We 1613 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,040 Speaker 1: see these things happening, but I. 1614 01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:14,519 Speaker 2: When we ask ourselves what they mean. 1615 01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,240 Speaker 1: If we take a look at the election of Momdanni 1616 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:19,160 Speaker 1: in New York, I'm supposed to be told that the 1617 01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:23,840 Speaker 1: reason that this communist got elected was because of affordability, 1618 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,160 Speaker 1: but I'm not so sure that's the case. But neither 1619 01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,720 Speaker 1: here nor there, I'm not so sure we understand what 1620 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:34,120 Speaker 1: affordability actually means. And every time I hear Tucker Carlson, 1621 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:39,400 Speaker 1: Kandace owns, Nick Fuentes and grouper's, I'm assuming half the 1622 01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,600 Speaker 1: people say, I don't know what a groper is, but 1623 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:43,679 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure if I take some kind of salve 1624 01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:45,360 Speaker 1: or penicillin it will go away. 1625 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,040 Speaker 2: The terms, the words have meaning. 1626 01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:49,600 Speaker 1: We got to know what they are in order to 1627 01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,799 Speaker 1: be able to understand what we're dealing with. Tony Katz, 1628 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,400 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. Noah Rothman 1629 01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,280 Speaker 1: joins me right now from National Review. That's where you 1630 01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:02,439 Speaker 1: find his work National Review dot com. And you have 1631 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:06,519 Speaker 1: been on these subjects right talking about affordability, regarding the 1632 01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,080 Speaker 1: mo'm donnie election, and talking to me about one day. 1633 01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,720 Speaker 1: So I want to start with affordability first because this 1634 01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,519 Speaker 1: is the buzzword, and President Trump has been making the 1635 01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:18,160 Speaker 1: argument finally, in my view that you know, the economy 1636 01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 1: is better than people say, we're just not talking about 1637 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:21,200 Speaker 1: it enough. 1638 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,320 Speaker 2: I don't think everything is great, but he can make 1639 01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:25,280 Speaker 2: some arguments. 1640 01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,400 Speaker 1: So when you take a look at this affordability conversation 1641 01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 1: how zoronmum Donnie ran what his Republicans are now saying, 1642 01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:34,360 Speaker 1: what do you take from them? 1643 01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,720 Speaker 30: Well, I kind of share your skepticism that the affordability 1644 01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,400 Speaker 30: argument is what won the election from Mamdani. He managed 1645 01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 30: their majority of the vote in New York City, in 1646 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,800 Speaker 30: which Democratic nominees for New York City they are typically romp. 1647 01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,400 Speaker 30: But that said, I think it would be folly to ignore, 1648 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,240 Speaker 30: especially for Republicans conservatives, to ignore the salience of the 1649 01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:59,120 Speaker 30: affordability issue and the apparent popularity of his solutions to them, 1650 01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:04,600 Speaker 30: which amount to top down government style entitlement programs, unfunded 1651 01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,240 Speaker 30: liabilities that we're already drowning in. 1652 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,120 Speaker 5: But I wrote about this yesterday. 1653 01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:13,639 Speaker 30: There's some Yuga polling, for example, that shows majorities even 1654 01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:18,280 Speaker 30: two thirds of voters support things like rent freezes and 1655 01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:23,320 Speaker 30: free childcare whatever that means, and government owned grocery stores 1656 01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,000 Speaker 30: and raising the minimum wage to thirty dollars an hour, 1657 01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:31,679 Speaker 30: as though these will have no macroeconomic consequences. The conservative argument, 1658 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,640 Speaker 30: the Republican argument has typically been that whenever you hear 1659 01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:40,320 Speaker 30: this sort of stuff from socialists. They're arguing for more 1660 01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,240 Speaker 30: vociferous efforts to solve the problems they created and using 1661 01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,479 Speaker 30: the same solutions that created the problems in the first place. 1662 01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:50,559 Speaker 30: And what we're hearing, I don't think what we're hearing 1663 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,160 Speaker 30: counter your impression that what we're hearing from Donald Trump 1664 01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:59,080 Speaker 30: is an especially adroit political argument against the very salient 1665 01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,320 Speaker 30: fact that the cast of living in the United States 1666 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,920 Speaker 30: is too high, and it has been growing over the 1667 01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:08,760 Speaker 30: course of Donald Trump's presidency, his second term presidency, we've 1668 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,880 Speaker 30: seen upwards of three, four, five, six percent increases in 1669 01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:18,240 Speaker 30: the cost of food, home and renters, insurance, appail, bedding, furniture, 1670 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,439 Speaker 30: you name it. And the President's response to this is 1671 01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,960 Speaker 30: to say, I don't want to hear about affordability, he 1672 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,000 Speaker 30: tells reporters, He tells Laura Ingram, you know, it's a 1673 01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:30,560 Speaker 30: con job by Democrats, the notion that the cost of 1674 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,479 Speaker 30: living is too high. What he should be arguing, and 1675 01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:36,320 Speaker 30: what conservatives and Republicans have been arguing typically in the 1676 01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,879 Speaker 30: pre Trump era, is that when cost of living increase 1677 01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:45,719 Speaker 30: increases to an unsustainable level, it is exacerbated by efforts 1678 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:50,280 Speaker 30: to remove from the economy your money, taking your income 1679 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,960 Speaker 30: out of your pocket and shoveling it into really ineffective 1680 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:57,400 Speaker 30: and inefficient government programs that do not deliver the services 1681 01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:01,160 Speaker 30: they're supposed to deliver, and limit the macroeconomic benefit that 1682 01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,880 Speaker 30: we would have if you were allowed to patronize the 1683 01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,439 Speaker 30: firms that you wanted to, not because they're the best connected, 1684 01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:11,160 Speaker 30: but because they're the most efficient, effective, and maximize your happiness. 1685 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,880 Speaker 30: That process, in the aggregate is what we call free 1686 01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:19,439 Speaker 30: market economics, and nobody talks about individual economic liberty anymore. 1687 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:23,080 Speaker 30: Nobody talks about your ability to navigate your own environment 1688 01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:25,400 Speaker 30: to see the people in services that you think are 1689 01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:28,400 Speaker 30: doing the best and signal to the broader market. But 1690 01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,519 Speaker 30: because they're doing the best, others in the competition in 1691 01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,840 Speaker 30: that space have to either change what they're doing or fold. 1692 01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:38,559 Speaker 30: That process of creative destruction is what generates economic growth 1693 01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:41,080 Speaker 30: and prosperity and wealth. And it's the sort of thing 1694 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:44,519 Speaker 30: that Republicans used to talk about with self confidence and 1695 01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,800 Speaker 30: assuredness because those principles are time tested and true. 1696 01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:48,840 Speaker 5: They no longer do. 1697 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,560 Speaker 30: But right now what they're offering is something like socialism. 1698 01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,400 Speaker 1: Light it's with socialism I think has happened here and 1699 01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't mean in talking about that often. 1700 01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:57,920 Speaker 2: I'm not for a view. 1701 01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to take a clumsy stab at this, but 1702 01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,360 Speaker 1: it has been in my head for a while that 1703 01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,840 Speaker 1: the I don't think you call it the woke right, 1704 01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,280 Speaker 1: that's I think I might be a different group of people. 1705 01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:13,120 Speaker 2: But they see that conservatism under. 1706 01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,400 Speaker 1: The Bill, Crystals of the World didn't work, and they 1707 01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,680 Speaker 1: have now extrapolated that out to capitalism under the Bill 1708 01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,439 Speaker 1: Crystals of the World didn't work, and there has to 1709 01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:25,920 Speaker 1: be more done by government to help people or engage protectionism, 1710 01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,600 Speaker 1: which is tariffs, et cetera. And the very idea of 1711 01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,800 Speaker 1: free markets seems to be, well, that's just that old 1712 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:34,240 Speaker 1: school stuff that didn't work. 1713 01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,360 Speaker 2: I am not a buyer in that. I'm not a 1714 01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:36,880 Speaker 2: believer in this. 1715 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 1: And there's this very interesting conversation going on regarding something 1716 01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,519 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro said that if a place is too expensive, 1717 01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,120 Speaker 1: find a place that's less expensive. And you have others 1718 01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,599 Speaker 1: saying this is exactly the problem, that's exactly the issue. 1719 01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,160 Speaker 1: You're going to lose elections this way. I don't know 1720 01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,880 Speaker 1: how you lose elections by saying you can't afford New York. 1721 01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:55,800 Speaker 1: If you can't afford New York, So don't live in 1722 01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,479 Speaker 1: New York, which is something every father has said to 1723 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:00,599 Speaker 1: every son and every daughter, usually. 1724 01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,400 Speaker 2: More sons and daughters, because they let their daughters do 1725 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:02,880 Speaker 2: what they will. 1726 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 30: Yeah, I suppose I have a little less sympathy for 1727 01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,080 Speaker 30: the notion for the invocation. For example, Bill Crystal a 1728 01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:12,800 Speaker 30: writer who has absolutely no influence over the evolution of 1729 01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:16,600 Speaker 30: economic policy on the planet Earth since the Enlightenment. And 1730 01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,760 Speaker 30: we're talking about Adam Smith, not Bill Crystal. So I 1731 01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,160 Speaker 30: just find it to be completely erroneous to even bring 1732 01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:25,600 Speaker 30: them up. Second, now, the notion here that that dynamism, 1733 01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:31,160 Speaker 30: that agency, that your individual efforts to shape and change 1734 01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,519 Speaker 30: your own reality are somehow untoward or suggesting that you 1735 01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,600 Speaker 30: have that capacity to navigate your environment and change your 1736 01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,280 Speaker 30: circumstances even up to and to the point of picking 1737 01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:46,360 Speaker 30: up roots and derascinating, is essential to the American ideal. 1738 01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,439 Speaker 30: This is not something that is just new and unique. 1739 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,280 Speaker 30: And we've always had a protectionist social covenant in which 1740 01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:56,040 Speaker 30: you can be expected to spend generations on the same 1741 01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:56,880 Speaker 30: plot of land. 1742 01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:57,880 Speaker 14: You know. 1743 01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 30: That's like an old world ideal, and it's one that 1744 01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,880 Speaker 30: is accompanied by stagnation. Why would we want to import 1745 01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,519 Speaker 30: the social covenants of Europe to this place where we 1746 01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 30: have such economic dynamism, where we have individual liberty and 1747 01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:17,320 Speaker 30: individual rights, and the notion that you yourself are responsible 1748 01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,679 Speaker 30: for your lot in life and therefore have the freedom 1749 01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:24,280 Speaker 30: and opportunity to shape and change it. It's a romantic 1750 01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:28,960 Speaker 30: notion that the rest of the country should shell out 1751 01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,759 Speaker 30: their taxpayer dollars so that you can afford a certain 1752 01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 30: lifestyle in a place that no longer sustains it. But 1753 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,599 Speaker 30: it's not going to change economic reality. We can prop 1754 01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:41,760 Speaker 30: you up for a certain amount of time, but an 1755 01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:45,280 Speaker 30: unsustainable proposition is an unsustainable proposition. It will not be 1756 01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,320 Speaker 30: rendered sustainable merely because we throw money at it. We're 1757 01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,160 Speaker 30: having the same debate Obamacare right now, in sort of 1758 01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:54,960 Speaker 30: a microcosm. Democrats are arguing that the subsidies that they 1759 01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,360 Speaker 30: themselves sunset in order to meet the measure of a 1760 01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,960 Speaker 30: medical emergency is somehow something that we have to now 1761 01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:06,200 Speaker 30: accept in perpetuity, even though the costs that they're trying 1762 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:10,760 Speaker 30: to stop gap here are growing growing, not shrinking, and 1763 01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,360 Speaker 30: we will be continuab We'll just sign ourselves up for 1764 01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:17,920 Speaker 30: continually trying to support this unsustainable evidence until edifice, rather 1765 01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:19,760 Speaker 30: until it inevitably collapses. 1766 01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:22,919 Speaker 2: Rather, we should allow the collapse. 1767 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,479 Speaker 30: We should allow the creative destruction out from which a 1768 01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:30,560 Speaker 30: better status quo can emerge. If something does not is 1769 01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:33,600 Speaker 30: not going to work forever, we have better accept it 1770 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,920 Speaker 30: and shape it and change it now until the before 1771 01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:40,519 Speaker 30: the consequences become far worse than they would be today. 1772 01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:45,320 Speaker 1: Talking to Noah Rothman of National Review dot Com of 1773 01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:49,040 Speaker 1: Croy of freeop was making this argument with me yesterday 1774 01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,160 Speaker 1: that you can engage the subsidy conversation all you want, 1775 01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:53,960 Speaker 1: but in the end, you have to change the fundamental 1776 01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:56,320 Speaker 1: dynamics of Obamacare if you want anything to be better, 1777 01:39:56,760 --> 01:40:02,080 Speaker 1: because it doesn't actually work. And I do agree that 1778 01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:07,439 Speaker 1: President Trump has an argument about some prices coming down, right, 1779 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,320 Speaker 1: He could talk about gas prices coming down. 1780 01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:11,519 Speaker 2: He can make that argument, but it's very hard to make. 1781 01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:15,160 Speaker 1: The conversation and the argument and Toto as some kind 1782 01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,360 Speaker 1: of complete thing that everything has come down when it hasn't, 1783 01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:21,600 Speaker 1: some of which could be attributed to Trump policies and 1784 01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:25,240 Speaker 1: some of which are just remnants still of Biden policies. 1785 01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,479 Speaker 2: But I'm going to put that to the side for 1786 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:28,480 Speaker 2: now because. 1787 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,320 Speaker 1: You have a part two conversation really as a second 1788 01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:34,920 Speaker 1: story as it's been enveloping the political right. And no, 1789 01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,240 Speaker 1: I do not believe there's a civil war. There is 1790 01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,960 Speaker 1: no civil war in the political right at all in 1791 01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:40,599 Speaker 1: my view. 1792 01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:42,800 Speaker 2: But this the. 1793 01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,200 Speaker 1: Gropers are losing, and you've got the picture of Nick 1794 01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:50,599 Speaker 1: Fuentes right there. This is playing on the fringes, except 1795 01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,679 Speaker 1: the people it's playing on the fringes with have very 1796 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,880 Speaker 1: large scale audiences. And so to the extent that I 1797 01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,280 Speaker 1: am remiss to bring it up because giving these people 1798 01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:05,200 Speaker 1: airtime is gross in my take my view, in my take, 1799 01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:08,200 Speaker 1: it has to be done because you have to understand 1800 01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:12,240 Speaker 1: what's happening. So let's start from a baseline, Noah Rothman, 1801 01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:16,639 Speaker 1: what in the world is a groper? And what possibly 1802 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:21,960 Speaker 1: is the argument here that they are losing considering Flentes 1803 01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:25,360 Speaker 1: is now get in time with Tucker, and Tucker's getting 1804 01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,519 Speaker 1: a defense from Megan Kelly, et cetera. 1805 01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:33,360 Speaker 30: So gropers are the name that has been adopted by 1806 01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:39,519 Speaker 30: fans of Nick Flentes who mimic his affect and share, 1807 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,120 Speaker 30: to one degree or another, his outlook, and Nick Flentes's 1808 01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:47,120 Speaker 30: outlook is explicitly racist. He has described himself as a racist, 1809 01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,719 Speaker 30: described himself as a Hitler fan, said, you know, women 1810 01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,120 Speaker 30: want to be raped, et cetera. So forth, he's a provocateur, 1811 01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:56,960 Speaker 30: and he strikes the most anti social position you could 1812 01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:01,760 Speaker 30: possibly imagine, and that's very attractive to his provocateurs, some 1813 01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,360 Speaker 30: of whom are just purely nihilistic. To describe them as 1814 01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:08,760 Speaker 30: conservative or Republican even is to attribute to the mediological 1815 01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:09,519 Speaker 30: motives they don't have. 1816 01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:12,320 Speaker 2: They do have small audiences. 1817 01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,080 Speaker 30: They have disproportionate influence in the halls of power, particularly 1818 01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,440 Speaker 30: on the American right, and the American right has engaged 1819 01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:25,080 Speaker 30: this influence after it was it became a scandalizing controversy 1820 01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:30,200 Speaker 30: when Heritage President Kevin Roberts put out this video, a 1821 01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,040 Speaker 30: really sordid video. 1822 01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:34,320 Speaker 5: In my view, insisting that he was defending. 1823 01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:39,080 Speaker 30: He would not defend or he would not dissociate his 1824 01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,599 Speaker 30: institution from Tucker Carlson, with whom he has those very 1825 01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:47,439 Speaker 30: deep and enduring bond, because that would be to intervene 1826 01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:51,040 Speaker 30: in a conversation on the American right, and we would 1827 01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,600 Speaker 30: direct all our fire on the American left. It was 1828 01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:58,080 Speaker 30: self evidently false, if only because Tucker Carlson does not 1829 01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,400 Speaker 30: engage in that same project. I don't remember the last 1830 01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:03,360 Speaker 30: time he criticized the left at any length. His political 1831 01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,559 Speaker 30: project is to co op the right and undermine its 1832 01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,280 Speaker 30: institutions and shape and change the direction of its political 1833 01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,280 Speaker 30: evolution in a far more paranoid and conspiratorial direction. That's 1834 01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,240 Speaker 30: self evidently the case, and Kevin Roberts put his thumb 1835 01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:18,360 Speaker 30: on the scale for that while saying he wasn't ignited 1836 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,320 Speaker 30: this conversation on the right that I think is entirely salutary, 1837 01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:27,720 Speaker 30: totally healthy, and it actually puts in stark relief the 1838 01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:32,559 Speaker 30: Democratic parties avoidance of this question when they were confronted 1839 01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,759 Speaker 30: with violent anti Semites who tore at the emergency fencing 1840 01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:39,040 Speaker 30: around the Democratic National Convention like a zombie horde. You know, 1841 01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,759 Speaker 30: its members would say they have a point. The President 1842 01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:43,920 Speaker 30: would say they had by Joe Biden, they have a point. 1843 01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:48,000 Speaker 30: Tim Waltz would say, you know, or rather Kamala Harris 1844 01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,439 Speaker 30: would say, they have exactly the right emotion when confronted 1845 01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,679 Speaker 30: with the horrors that were witnessing in the Middle East, 1846 01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:54,519 Speaker 30: and you know, etc. 1847 01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:55,240 Speaker 2: So forth. 1848 01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,960 Speaker 30: As late as Halloween in twenty twenty four, the Associated 1849 01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,360 Speaker 30: Press said that the Kamala Harris campaign is trying to 1850 01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:06,479 Speaker 30: integrate these individuals into their movement and validate their concerns 1851 01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,800 Speaker 30: quote unquote, so that could harness their energy. There is 1852 01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:11,800 Speaker 30: an element of that on the right that sees the 1853 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:16,240 Speaker 30: passion and verve with which the racist elements that are 1854 01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:21,320 Speaker 30: very provocative and very inflammatory signal to them the illusion 1855 01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:25,080 Speaker 30: that they're talking about a much broader spectrum of American 1856 01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,040 Speaker 30: American voters and there could be political power there. So 1857 01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,880 Speaker 30: we can't afford to alienate them. You alienate one, if 1858 01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:33,240 Speaker 30: you throw anybody under the bus one Sister Soldier moment, 1859 01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,880 Speaker 30: you can lose the whole coalition. And why I think 1860 01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:38,080 Speaker 30: that this whole moment has been really healthy and revealing 1861 01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:40,599 Speaker 30: is because we're all living in Plato's cave. We don't 1862 01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:44,960 Speaker 30: really know how many gropers there are and how powerful 1863 01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:48,519 Speaker 30: and influential they are until they're tested. And when they're tested, 1864 01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,600 Speaker 30: and they have been tested, we've seen them show a 1865 01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,880 Speaker 30: lot of leg They have been on the back foot. 1866 01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,600 Speaker 30: Kevin Roberts is now, i think, on his fourth apology 1867 01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:02,360 Speaker 30: for that video. He's been backtracking ever since. Just about 1868 01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,519 Speaker 30: every Republican of stature who doesn't ingratiate themselves to the 1869 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:11,519 Speaker 30: fringes of American political thought. Has come out against this movement. 1870 01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:16,599 Speaker 30: The Wall Street Journal Ben Shapiro newly revamped Washington Post 1871 01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:20,080 Speaker 30: opinion page, which is far more conservative than it used 1872 01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:23,320 Speaker 30: to be. You're seeing the institutions on the American right 1873 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:27,120 Speaker 30: sort of come out and have some spine, shows some 1874 01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:31,200 Speaker 30: self confidence, and evince the conservative principles that have been 1875 01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:34,439 Speaker 30: not in fashion on the American right for the better 1876 01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:37,080 Speaker 30: part of a decade. I think that's pretty heartening. And 1877 01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:41,759 Speaker 30: it's only because they've seen how little actual, actual power 1878 01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:45,240 Speaker 30: that this faction of the American right can bring to 1879 01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:48,200 Speaker 30: bear when it's really tested. And I think that's going 1880 01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:51,000 Speaker 30: to be helpful for everybody who wants to who wants 1881 01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:55,759 Speaker 30: some clarity about just how powerful this group of malcontents. 1882 01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:57,639 Speaker 15: Are and does that mean the H one B visa 1883 01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:00,920 Speaker 15: thing will not be a big priority administration is if 1884 01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,639 Speaker 15: you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't 1885 01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,719 Speaker 15: flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of eye. 1886 01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:10,080 Speaker 2: And we also do have to bring in talent. When 1887 01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,519 Speaker 2: we got your talent and they know you know you don't. 1888 01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,920 Speaker 14: We don't have talent people, No, you don't have You 1889 01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:17,080 Speaker 14: don't have certain talents, and you have to people have 1890 01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:17,559 Speaker 14: to learn. 1891 01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,479 Speaker 1: Now, President Trump is going to be quoted out of 1892 01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:24,960 Speaker 1: context on this regarding He's not saying Americans don't have talent. 1893 01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,000 Speaker 1: He's saying that you need to be able to train 1894 01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:30,840 Speaker 1: that talent. But if that is the excuse solely and 1895 01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:35,040 Speaker 1: exclusively for never ending H one B visas and never 1896 01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:40,759 Speaker 1: ending the idea of people from other countries engaging jobs 1897 01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,040 Speaker 1: here as if somehow we can't do it, that's a 1898 01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:46,719 Speaker 1: real problem. And it's understandable why that hits so hard 1899 01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,479 Speaker 1: in certain circles that my gosh, what is the President 1900 01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:54,439 Speaker 1: doing here? I think it's when he says, well, we 1901 01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:56,719 Speaker 1: need to allow these foreign students to come in because 1902 01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:57,879 Speaker 1: it's good for our colleges. 1903 01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:00,439 Speaker 2: We don't want them to go under. I don't care 1904 01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:02,920 Speaker 2: if some colleges go under. What kind of thing is this? 1905 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,400 Speaker 1: The President took a big swing here in this interview 1906 01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:09,920 Speaker 1: with Laura Ingram, and he missed, and it's something that 1907 01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:11,840 Speaker 1: he has to deal with, that his team has to 1908 01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:13,519 Speaker 1: deal with, and they'd better get on it. 1909 01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:16,439 Speaker 2: This was not a miss you wanted. It's not a 1910 01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,280 Speaker 2: miss that's necessary, and it doesn't even fit his brand. 1911 01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:23,480 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk more about it. Find everything at Tonycotts 1912 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,400 Speaker 2: dot com tomorrow. Everyone, take care,