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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan Morning Show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome into a Tuesday morning. Mark dykeon,

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Speaker 1: how about that? Right off the bat, we got a

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Speaker 1: roll in here along with Kevin Bone, I'm jeff Rickord

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Speaker 1: and third man in our boot James Voyd is off

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Speaker 1: to Baltimore covering the joint practices for the Colts and

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, and of course they have their first preseason

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Speaker 1: game on Thursday night. And like I said, the greatest

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Speaker 1: thing about this camp for me is to watch people

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Speaker 1: develop get a little bit better. But more than anything,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, no no major contract hassles or hold ups

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Speaker 1: or anything like that, no distractions. I was just getting

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Speaker 1: to work and it's been fun. The three or four

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Speaker 1: practices that I've been to so far is just get

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Speaker 1: to work and get to business. And that's all people

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Speaker 2: Well, I like that should credit Jake Querry for creating

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Speaker 2: a little bit of contract hassle, right, Well, he solved one. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: well created it, solved it. He does at all? What

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Speaker 2: does Jake Querry not do? He probably will need to

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Speaker 2: help Mark Dyton find some ice cold Mondos here up coming.

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Speaker 1: Wow, we're back to that already.

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Speaker 2: Legendary already, Barry is what I would prefer, Mark, And

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Speaker 2: honestly I'd prefer them chilled.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you and the child this summer. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: you're all in on the power aid, You're all in

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Speaker 1: on the ice cold mondos? Like you, Is there any

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Speaker 1: frozen treat you would turn down? At this point?

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't think that the elementary running the bases would

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Speaker 2: be a thing that by the time you reach major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball people have figured out. But I guess Dansby

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Speaker 2: Swanson and hitting first base is not something that was

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Speaker 2: on the radar for him.

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Speaker 1: Thanks have. At least he went the right way.

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Speaker 2: You ever want a lot of money not to know

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Speaker 2: her first basis the Red's three Cubs two last night.

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Speaker 2: We typically lead off with Major League Baseball, so I

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Speaker 2: wanted to make sure that we, you know, gave our

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Speaker 2: audience what was needed here on this Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Well, not only that, but the big, the big you know,

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Speaker 3: trade deadline acquisition of Mike Soroka lasted a whole two

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Speaker 3: innings before we left with shoulder discomforts. That was great

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Speaker 3: to see as a couple fan. I'm like, we're off

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Speaker 3: and running now, what an acquisition, phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: Both starting pitchers exiting early last night there.

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Speaker 1: So just probably Linda Mark.

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Speaker 2: Did I see that we have a six pack on

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Speaker 2: the line, Jeff? Pack of Mondos? Are you familiar with

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Speaker 2: Mondo's that.

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Speaker 1: I've never had one?

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Speaker 3: Well familiar with?

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Speaker 2: Right now, we're trending towards the legendary Berry Mondo being

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Speaker 2: in this studio here and then a coming day, So

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Speaker 2: that's if I can find I will give you one.

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Speaker 1: Jeff, What's that I missed?

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Speaker 2: Simply a six pack of mando? I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: a child drink, think of a you know, a glorified

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Speaker 2: knockoff power raid.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm just what was the genesis of the best red?

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Speaker 3: Cubs win the series or Cubs win the series.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're off and running then, I like that anytime

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Speaker 1: the Reds beat the Cubs, I'm all good with that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just curious though, too. I mean, the Reds

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Speaker 1: get that first game of the series right there, they

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Speaker 1: are not sellers. They are buyers at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: They're just a couple of games out in the wild

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Speaker 1: card right now, and they've put together a few nice

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Speaker 1: little winning streaks here. I mean, I could see, especially

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Speaker 1: in the early part of the Major League Baseball playoffs,

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Speaker 1: if they sneak in, I think they could be a

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Speaker 1: fly in the ointment. Mark Dyton, they could be.

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Speaker 2: Mark n What the hell is going on here?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 2: We are? You know, talking this much baseball just because

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Speaker 2: the Reds somehow time I think I and Half's still

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Speaker 3: It might be that could very well happen. Boy, you

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Speaker 3: were a chesty this morning, Jade Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I have a joint practice coming up later today.

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Speaker 2: Little rain on the morning commute. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: long that's going to linger. But yeah, we've got some

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Speaker 2: and hope it's not lingering.

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Speaker 1: You're taking everybody out there, yeah, I think so all

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Speaker 1: four of you. Have you been out there yet?

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Speaker 3: Mark twice already? Yeah, he takes camp.

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Speaker 1: Well, you you and the wife went together once, just

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Speaker 1: an adult only adventure, right, Well.

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Speaker 3: We ride our youngest because Congress is done with preschool.

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Speaker 3: But I saw Jake and waved heill low, and then

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Speaker 3: he made fun of me for having cotton candy flavored beer,

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Speaker 3: and I said, well, you can't knock it till you

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Speaker 3: try it.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna have cotton candy, be though it feels

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Speaker 1: appropriate that it would be at a state fair exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the diet goes out the window when the state

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Speaker 1: So, now that you've had it a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: if there's one food item people need to get when

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Speaker 1: they venture over there to the state Fair, what would

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. Lobster mac and cheese.

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Speaker 1: What if you're allergic to shellfish?

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Speaker 3: Well, then that's die if they have it. Yeah, definitely

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Speaker 3: have it. Yeah, that's your limits. See what happens to

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Speaker 3: state Fair and anything goes then if you're allergic, keV.

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Speaker 3: I told Kevin this, Uh, the pickle bacon ranch pizza

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Speaker 3: is actually very good. Sounds crazy, it's very good.

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Speaker 1: You're becoming a fair foodie over there.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is for the the alternatives. If you have

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Speaker 3: a shellfish allergy.

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Speaker 1: Just get it.

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Speaker 3: I do want that cotton candy beer. Do it good?

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Speaker 3: Get a shakeup for Maddie. It's like a gin cocktail.

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Speaker 3: It's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I know. Jake's got Jake's got a couple more appearances

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Speaker 1: out there around the horse racing, so that'll be and twice,

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Speaker 1: I think in the next couple of weeks Eili milkshake.

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Speaker 3: Also at the dairy bar.

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Speaker 1: That one says right up at his house.

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Speaker 3: Right there, you can't go wrong with the dairy bar.

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Speaker 1: No, we got Pulley in the studio again today. He's

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Speaker 1: fever fervently nodding his head in agreement on that one.

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Speaker 3: Right there.

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Speaker 2: He's got the metabolism of a twenty year old, so

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Speaker 2: it's a slightly different what he can then take over there.

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Speaker 1: It just never stopped. Remember we were twenty just kept

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Speaker 1: eating all the.

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Speaker 3: Time, eating.

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Speaker 2: You don't think I had that metabolism, and then I

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Speaker 2: wake up and realize, oh boy, you're gonna regret that

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Speaker 2: for the next six years.

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Speaker 1: Hey, before we jump back into all the Colt's NFL

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Speaker 1: stuff and everything else. Also, one more reminder that we are.

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Speaker 1: Thursday is the big day for the golf tournament. And

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Speaker 1: I may be speaking out of turn here, but I

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Speaker 1: do want to say there's one or two spots available,

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Speaker 1: maybe one foursome left, give him give them, Hey, you

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Speaker 1: can squeeze in right now, go to ninety or one

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Speaker 1: O seven five the Fan. I was gonna say ninety

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Speaker 1: three five, but it's one of seven five the fan

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Speaker 1: dot com and check out whether or not that last

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Speaker 1: or some is still there. Because we're gonna be out

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Speaker 1: at Legends Golf Club on Thursday. Kevin, You're gonna be

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Speaker 1: tired because I think you're gonna take a swing for

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Speaker 1: just about everybody, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: I would love just to be on part three see

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Speaker 2: the Papa shot going right.

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Speaker 1: Yep from the back of the pickup truck. How about that?

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Speaker 2: I listen listener Carlton for that. Excellent. So looking forward

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Speaker 2: to that. Mother Nature looks to be pretty good for Thursday.

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Speaker 1: And thanks to the patients of Carlton, because they were

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Speaker 1: just trying to figure out if they do that, where

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Speaker 1: Because nobody's ever had a full on, full blown basketball

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter if you're season golfer, join us

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Speaker 1: as we hook up with Franciscan Health. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be on Thursday, and of course it's all to raise

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Speaker 1: and have a great day on the course as well.

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Speaker 1: So that's what we've got going on. We mentioned James

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Speaker 1: Boyd is in Baltimore right now. I know you're looking

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Speaker 1: from Afar keV. But what are you most interested in seeing?

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Speaker 1: Probably seems obvious, but what are you most interested in

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: Es selfishly, I hope Lamar Jackson practices today. I guess

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Speaker 2: i'd start there. I saw you missed yesterday excused personal matter,

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Speaker 2: So obviously you hope Lamar everything's fine with this family

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Speaker 2: first and foremost. But I think it'd be a great test.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Cooper Rush provides the same test

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Speaker 2: You know, what do the quarterbacks look like against? You know,

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Speaker 2: I think at times who are like, well, it's August

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Speaker 2: August samples have led to what we've seen in the season,

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Speaker 2: and Anthony Richardson last year in the joint practices struggled mightily,

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Speaker 2: and that is exactly what obviously transpired in season. I

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Speaker 2: thought the depth chart yesterday, that announcement, I thought there

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Speaker 2: were some interesting takeaways from that. You know, typically there's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a hey, we're probably just trying

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Speaker 2: to appease everybody, and the old death chart. Typically college

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Speaker 2: depth charts have like thirty seven oars on them because

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Speaker 2: they don't want anyone to transfer. The Colts only had

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Speaker 2: one or which it doesn't think apply to quarterback. But

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Speaker 2: we can hit on that. But yeah, just finally seeing

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Speaker 2: with training camp it's so difficult I think to really

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Speaker 2: evaluate is if one unit is doing really well, is

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Speaker 2: that unit really good or is the unit they're facing

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, early on in camp we saw the

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Speaker 2: Colts pass defense really really sticky. Well, is that because

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Speaker 2: the Colts passing offense we don't think is going to

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Speaker 2: be very good, and then some of these corner injuries

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it'll be fun to get obviously

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Speaker 2: James's thoughts and a couple other people boots on the grounds.

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Speaker 3: They're in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: So one o'clock today the joint practice and then seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock Thursday, preseason game number one.

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Speaker 1: All right, looking forward to all of that. It is

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Speaker 1: just about NFL season. I mean, I guess we had

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game so far, and we do

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Speaker 1: want to start seeing people play. I saw the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Vikings said that JJ McCarthy is going to get his

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Speaker 1: first exactly one year off on from his injury, is

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Speaker 1: So like when a Ady Mitchell has one hundred and

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, but come back it has to be injury related,

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Speaker 2: That's what my waistline is trying to accomplish right now.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to come back from just indulging too much.

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Speaker 2: All there's no injury related. It was all self inflicted.

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Speaker 2: Now we should mention and obviously best health to Coach Ventury,

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Speaker 1: But we were talking about the things that you want

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Speaker 2: Uh, peaches or excuse me, I got hear the YouTube chain.

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Speaker 1: He went straight to the you know.

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Speaker 1: away is Adie Mitchell from becoming a top line wide receiption.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got asi there, But.

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Speaker 1: How many PEO people have the skill set that he has? Though?

441
00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:02,320
Speaker 3: Right?

442
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 2: But okay, if he had all the skill set, why

443
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Speaker 2: was he the eleventh white out taken in the draft.

444
00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,639
Speaker 2: That's whiteout taking the draft like, I mean, yes, I

445
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,359
Speaker 2: see talent. There is some obvious talent there. But to

446
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Speaker 2: act like all of a sudden he's going to be

447
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Speaker 2: the next you know, Stefan Diggs in his prime in Buffalo,

448
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Speaker 2: I think is a bit far fetched. Anything cold stepth

449
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Speaker 2: chart whise stand out to you.

450
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, what are the true

451
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Speaker 1: position battles left on this team because it seems fairly set.

452
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I actually think I thought the

453
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Speaker 2: thing that really shoot out to me. Obviously, you know

454
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Speaker 2: you have quarterback as the oor designation, but I think

455
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Speaker 2: linebacker next tos Ire Franklin is wide open. And it's

456
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Speaker 2: actually Indy native listed as a starter. So shout out

457
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Speaker 2: to Lawrence Central's Camra Groan. He is listed as their starter.

458
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Speaker 2: And you know, coming into camp, the thought internally was

459
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Speaker 2: Jalen carlis their fifth round pick from last year's draft,

460
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Speaker 2: not this past year, but the year before, he would

461
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Speaker 2: be the starter. And and he really hasn't flashed in camp,

462
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Speaker 2: and he was running with the twoes the other day

463
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Speaker 2: and I thought to myself, oh boys, there's something here.

464
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Speaker 2: And then when the Colts released their first depth chart,

465
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Speaker 2: it is camera Groan so played at Michigan, battled some

466
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Speaker 2: injuries there, covid year fifth round pick out of New

467
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Speaker 2: England or for New England, didn't stay there too long,

468
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Speaker 2: and is you know, again, found some injuries here in Indy,

469
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Speaker 2: been on the practice squad and he definitely has had

470
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Speaker 2: a couple of moments here in camp.

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Speaker 3: So that to me stood out.

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Speaker 2: That was like, Okay, they are kind of confirming because

473
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Speaker 2: oftentimes with these depth charts, you just go with what,

474
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Speaker 2: I don't know, what everyone kind of thinks is the

475
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Speaker 2: preseason depth chart, and even if you do have a

476
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Speaker 2: true position battle maybe inside your building, you don't necessarily

477
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Speaker 2: reveal it too too much to the public. That one

478
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Speaker 2: I thought really stood out to me. So not only

479
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Speaker 2: just from a local angle, but linebacker has depth questions,

480
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Speaker 2: but now it's got a true open starting job in

481
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Speaker 2: Zia Franklin we've yet to see in the eleven eleven periods,

482
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Speaker 2: So I thought that was one of the things that

483
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Speaker 2: really jumped out of me.

484
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm fascinated to see not only in joint

485
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Speaker 1: practices but also the game. Getting back to the obvious,

486
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Speaker 1: the quarterback is it is it truly really a quarterback battle. Like,

487
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Speaker 1: to me, it feels like Daniel Jones is just going

488
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Speaker 1: to have to be head and shoulders above Anthony Richardson

489
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Speaker 1: for him to truly be considered the starting quarterback by

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: So you do not believe the ore designation.

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Speaker 1: I think that I still believe that a lot of

493
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Speaker 1: this is designed to push him, to keep him on

494
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Speaker 1: his toes and to make sure that he does all

495
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Speaker 1: the things he needs to do as a starting quarterback

496
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Speaker 1: in the NFL to keep that job. But unless he

497
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Speaker 1: goes out and just stumbles all around and continually turns

498
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Speaker 1: the ball over and has some of the problems that

499
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Speaker 1: he's that he's had in the first couple of years,

500
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Speaker 1: if he gets any better at all, I can't imagine

501
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is going to be that much better than him.

502
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Speaker 1: I just to me, it just feels like Jones is

503
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Speaker 1: going to have to really outperform him to get that

504
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Speaker 1: starting job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually believe in the Ore in this case.

506
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Speaker 2: You know, oftentimes in college teas throughout the old or

507
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Speaker 2: on the depth chart, they're just trying to keep the

508
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Speaker 2: other quarterback happy. They're like, we don't want you to

509
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Speaker 2: endo the transfer port right. So, even though we don't

510
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Speaker 2: really mean the ore, we don't want your high school

511
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Speaker 2: coach to be calling us and saying, how dare Johnny

512
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Speaker 2: not be listed as an or?

513
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Speaker 3: Right now? This one, I actually think it does apply.

514
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Speaker 2: And if you're Shane Stikeen, and if Anthony Richinson goes

515
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 2: out there and he's down his leg today like you

516
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 2: did last year in the Cincinnati joined practice, does that

517
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Speaker 2: not give you a PTSD from what happened last year?

518
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Speaker 1: And then that allows Daniel Jones to be head and

519
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Speaker 1: shoulders above Anthony Richardson if that happens.

520
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Speaker 2: So I think today, Thursday, obviously next week when you

521
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Speaker 2: get to Green Bay and those joint practice and then

522
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Speaker 2: the preseason game, I think it's big. You know, if

523
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Speaker 2: you want to look at the percentages right now, make

524
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Speaker 2: of it what you want. These are unofficial numbers, but

525
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Speaker 2: right now I think I've charted Anthony Richardson at fifty

526
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Speaker 2: six percent, Daniel Jones is sixty nine percent.

527
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Speaker 1: Which is Daniel Jones is Daniel Jones. He's right in

528
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Speaker 1: that area.

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Speaker 3: Motion, how much do you make of that thirteen percent difference?

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Speaker 1: And we've also seen that Anthony Richardson get it's the

531
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Speaker 1: ball downfield a little bit more sure, right, We've seen

532
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Speaker 1: that again from Daniel Jones. I mean, for the most part,

533
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Speaker 1: we've seen some improvement from Anthony Richardson. Daniel Jones is

534
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Speaker 1: kind of Daniel Jones is what I've seen the four

535
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Speaker 1: practices I've been to. You've been there more than I have.

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Speaker 1: So what's your thought there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think again Richardson, the egregious misses, I don't

538
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Speaker 2: think have been as much there. I think for the

539
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Speaker 2: most part, both quarterbacks have stayed away from the amount

540
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Speaker 2: of turnovers that have plagued their careers so far. But

541
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Speaker 2: as we start to get into these evaluation periods, I

542
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Speaker 2: think now we get a little bit more into it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've said before again, I think Shane Steichen

544
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Speaker 2: is much more of a I could live with Daniel

545
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Speaker 2: Jones more than people care to think.

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Speaker 1: He believes that well, because coaches sometimes just want a

547
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Speaker 1: guy that's going to run their playbook right well.

548
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Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes you get this with running quarterbacks.

549
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Speaker 2: What would you say is the strength of the Colts offense?

550
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Speaker 2: Let me go there running game, So you call Jonathan

551
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Speaker 2: Taylor strength.

552
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Speaker 1: Jonn Taylor behind, especially that left side of the line

553
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Speaker 1: is the way to go.

554
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Speaker 2: Right, So Jonathan Taylor behind that offensive line, I would agree.

555
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Speaker 2: So oftentimes, and it's probably more of a college thing

556
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Speaker 2: than a pro thing. But in the college game, for example,

557
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Speaker 2: when you debate running quarterback versus pocket passer, if you

558
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Speaker 2: just want to stereotype those two quarterbacks, okay, this is

559
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Speaker 2: our competition. The guy that can make him throw from

560
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Speaker 2: the pocket versus the guy that can really make some

561
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Speaker 2: plays with his legs. Sometimes you see teams opt for

562
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Speaker 2: the running quarterback because they don't have a run game,

563
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Speaker 2: or they have an offensive line they don't trust.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we need a guy out there it's going to

565
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Speaker 3: go create.

566
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Speaker 2: We need a guy that's all of a sudden going

567
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Speaker 2: to keep us out of all this offensive line is

568
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Speaker 2: caving in on him, all this pressures around him. We

569
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Speaker 2: need him to go create plays. Well, theoretically, the Colts

570
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Speaker 2: don't have that, right, the Colts have the run game,

571
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Speaker 2: they have the offensive line. So if you believe that,

572
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Speaker 2: is there any part of Shane Sichin that says, we've

573
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Speaker 2: got the stud running back, We've got a good offensive line.

574
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Speaker 2: I need someone that can get Tyler Warren the football.

575
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Speaker 2: I need someone that we feel the best about our

576
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Speaker 2: wideout group that we have had in whatever six seven years.

577
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Speaker 2: I need someone to get the ball consistently to the

578
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Speaker 2: pass catchers. You think there's any side of Shane Siching

579
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Speaker 2: that looks at it in that light.

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Speaker 1: I think Jack totally.

581
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Speaker 3: So that would mean Daniel Jones right.

582
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Speaker 1: Based on previous who they've been right. But we've seen

583
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Speaker 1: Anthony take better care of the football in this camp.

584
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Speaker 1: We've seen him making the short and intermediate throws. Again,

585
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Speaker 1: fifty six percent is not out of this world, but

586
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Speaker 1: it's a lot better. That's almost a ten percent increase

587
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Speaker 1: from what he averaged last year. If he can continue

588
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Speaker 1: to do that, it's a.

589
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Speaker 2: Little worse than last year's training camp for what it's worth.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but let's just say that he does start getting

591
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Speaker 1: the ball to these intermediate guys, and Tyler Warren does

592
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Speaker 1: make a difference. He and he's not afraid to get

593
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Speaker 1: the ball into a tight window accurately somewhere down the

594
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Speaker 1: middle of the field more often than not. Would you

595
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Speaker 1: not rather have the guy that can literally change the

596
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Speaker 1: game on any given play, just based on the surreal

597
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Speaker 1: physical attributes to the.

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Speaker 2: I would bet on the ceiling every time, but it

599
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Speaker 2: seems like the Colts have are more open minded to

600
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Speaker 2: changing their tune.

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Speaker 1: I still think that's a lot of it is just

602
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Speaker 1: to keep him on his toes. Look, we believe in you,

603
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: but you got to do it now, dude. Yeah, you

604
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Speaker 1: got to do it now, which is fine because if

605
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Speaker 1: you're not, if you don't get it done, we do

606
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Speaker 1: have an alternative. And I think that's probably given where

607
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: he's been over the last couple of years. I applaud

608
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Speaker 1: the Colts for making that move because I think they

609
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: had to make that move. They had to put him

610
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Speaker 1: on notice. And if it doesn't work out for him,

611
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Speaker 1: whether he gets injured again, if he can't improve those

612
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Speaker 1: short to intermediate throws, then they at least have a

613
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Speaker 1: guy that coaches like. As I said a moment ago, Kevin,

614
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Speaker 1: You've been around long enough to know coaches, especially offensive coordinators,

615
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Speaker 1: they like someone who just executes the plays that are calling.

616
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: Anything else besides richardson sides, the linebacker depth chartwise.

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Speaker 1: Uh, just want to you know, knock on wood, keep

618
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: it healthy right now you can. I think Alec Pierce's

619
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Speaker 1: is set up to have a big year. I think

620
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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Jr. Just need him to be him and

621
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Speaker 1: if Adie Mitchell can make a stride. And again I

622
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: was teasing about his numbers a minute ago. But if

623
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Speaker 1: you got if you got eighty catches for seven hundred

624
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Speaker 1: and fifty yards and four or five touchdowns for Adie Mitchell,

625
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Speaker 1: would that be a nice improvement for you?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, eighty catches seven hundred and

627
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Speaker 2: fifty yards.

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Speaker 1: I think that I could see that. That's the upper end.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you need an right, I could see.

630
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Speaker 2: The jor what would happened to Alex Pierces.

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Speaker 1: I just think he's physically the superior wide receiver to

632
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Speaker 1: those guys. Now can he live up to that? I

633
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: don't know.

634
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Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, I feel like for him to get to

635
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: those numbers, you'd need an injury or.

636
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Speaker 3: Two somewhere else. Maybe, uh.

637
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: I thought Tanner Bordolini clearly over Danny Pincer. Again, that

638
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: is a competition battle that we have seen, and I

639
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: think the thought was Bordelini would start over Pincer. But

640
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: we have seen a flip flop pretty much every day lately.

641
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: It's been maybe a little bit more Bordolini. I think

642
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: Pincer might have missed one day of practice, so that

643
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: is something that also kind of caught my eye. And

644
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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people brought up yesterday they

645
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: were surprised to see Tyler Goodson as the backup running back.

646
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Speaker 2: I'm probably still a little bit more of two three

647
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Speaker 2: four on that list. Behind Jonathan Taylor, that would be

648
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: Tyler Goodson, that would be DJ Giddens, the rookie out

649
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: of Kansas State, and then Khalil Herbert, the veteran who

650
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: I know Marcus seen played with the.

651
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Speaker 1: Very nice running back room.

652
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Speaker 2: Actually, I think that's a little bit more smushed together

653
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Speaker 2: two three four there. I don't know if that's as

654
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: much of a separation as it might look like on

655
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Speaker 2: a depth star. But Goodson, you know again, I know

656
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: that he's been here before, so people will probably are like, well,

657
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: i've seen him, and I don't know, there's probably PTSD

658
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: from dropping the ball against Houston to end the year,

659
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: but he's her starting gunner opposite Ashton Douland. So he's

660
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 2: going to make the team. And I do think there's

661
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: been a flash moment for him offensively. I am interested

662
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: to see and I don't know, maybe Fantasy football care

663
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: about this more But do you have to designate a

664
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: third down back because Jonathan Taylor it can be butterfingers

665
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: catching the football. So do you have a specific guy

666
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: to play on third down for you? And who will

667
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: that be?

668
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

669
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: I think that's all good. Just one more thing on

670
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: Adie Mitchell before we move on from that. Like what

671
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that that's just about five catches per game.

672
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: I know it seems like a lot, but I can

673
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: see that developing, I really can. I like what Alec

674
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: Pierce provides. He's terrific. I just think, man, and maybe

675
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm too bullish on just physical abilities and physical talent,

676
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: but I like second year wide receivers. I think that's

677
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: when they make the biggest jump. And maybe eighty is

678
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: way too hopeful, but I could see him getting at

679
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: least four games.

680
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: I just think. I mean, do the Colts have a

681
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: guy catch eighty balls last year?

682
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't know who was throwing it to him to

683
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: catch eighty balls last year? Was part of them?

684
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: Wasn't it the same guys? I mean Richardson and Flacco.

685
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: From Richard it's in and I see Daniel Jones, I

686
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: mean eighty catches. I mean, I get that when you

687
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: math it out, five doesn't seem like a lot, but

688
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get I don't know. Maybe Josh Downs was

689
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: close to eighty last year. I don't for some reason,

690
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody was at eighty.

691
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: Josh Downs had seventy two, Michael Pittman had sixty nine,

692
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: and then there's a steep drop off. Alk Pierce had

693
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: thirty seven.

694
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: I mean eighty catches for seven hundred and fifty yards.

695
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 2: I mean that is a healthy season. So I just

696
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: don't I think somebody's got to do that for them.

697
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: If they're gonna get, they're gonna get better, and I

698
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: think they will. Somebody's gonna have to do that. But

699
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: I don't know where he gets consistent playing time, nor

700
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: shows consistency himself to all of a sudden earned that role.

701
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: I think there's a ton of talent there, and again

702
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: this last week has been very good, but I can't

703
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: stamp eighty seven to fifty and five touchdowns on them.

704
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: I continue to be the most bullish on this team

705
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: this year.

706
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: Yes, correct, eleven wins?

707
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 3: Correct?

708
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: Ten to eleven, Yeah, ten and a half is where

709
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: I'd put it up, probably if you forced me right now.

710
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: I'd probably take the under at ten and a half,

711
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: but I think they're gonna be right around there.

712
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 3: There's good value if you're if you're feeling yourself.

713
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: Wasn't that ten and a half? What was the number market?

714
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: Wasn't that high something?

715
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

716
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: I could probably go there.

717
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: You could buy Mondo's for life.

718
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people. I mean,

719
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: if they don't do that this year, how different does

720
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: this team look next year? Kevin got a new sheriff

721
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: in town calling the shots.

722
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: No, you even get to eleven or else ten or eleven?

723
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: I think it depends. I think you need to win

724
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: a playoff game.

725
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: So if you get the nine and Anthony Richardson looks

726
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: great and your defense is the issue, well, first year

727
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: lou Anroumo struggles, you get the nine wins and Richardson

728
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: arrow pointing up.

729
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: Is that enough?

730
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: I think Richardson is everything. So probably yes. So it's

731
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: not as much the win total, because if you feel like, hey,

732
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: we do have something here, this is our franchise guy,

733
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: we really liked what we saw. That probably changes context

734
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: for everything, doesn't it. Getting back to what you were

735
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: saying a minute ago, you don't make a ton of

736
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 1: moves unless you think you have your guy. If you're

737
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: a lot more convinced at the end of the season

738
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: that you have your guide, that changes everything, right. I

739
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: know you sigh when you think about.

740
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: Side because it's the unknown of Carl ros Gordon. Yeah,

741
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: honestly more than the general Obviously, I don't think Chris

742
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: Bauard should beget the ninth crack at it.

743
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm so fascinated to see how she

744
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: manages this team.

745
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: Again, is everyone tied together? Is you know we talked

746
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: about this the last time a training camp.

747
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: Remember last time Jim tied everybody together?

748
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: You know, I asked Chap, Okay, when's the last time organizationally,

749
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: you feel like the GM, the head coach, and the

750
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: quarterback all three of those have been at such a crossroads.

751
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: And he went back to ninety seven, all that far back.

752
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it's twenty twenty five. That's nearly thirty years

753
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: since you've had such indocidy at the pillars of your organization.

754
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: So again, how does Carly v that? She strikes me

755
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: as a very black and white person. By the way,

756
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: I did see that Jim Mercy's compound sold yesterday.

757
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got an offer on it. Was it sold

758
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: or they get an offer on My wife was all.

759
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: Excited about that loud I saw sale pending, so I guess,

760
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: you know, officially, but it's.

761
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: Probably a short list of folks that can in Indianapolis

762
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: can buy that compound.

763
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: I would venture to guess.

764
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. My wife's thought was, Ooh, do you think it's

765
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe one of the Pacers is that you can wear

766
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: a basketball court in there?

767
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: Like my next door neighbor are currently selling their house.

768
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: Is that one where you can just like find the

769
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: open house time and just walk through it or do

770
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: you have to present some tax documents to walk down.

771
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm guessing there's probably a little bit of discernment that

772
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: takes place before they let people in.

773
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: Mark and the girls are knocking on the ice rink.

774
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: Hey care, you can't hit balls onto her? Get sick er.

775
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: No, I just thought that was issue. My wife's first

776
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: thought was, I wonder if it's a Pacers, you know

777
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: they have a full court.

778
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: I thought I saw tyres Alburn just purchased a new home.

779
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna talk about a man that's been busy as

780
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: hell getting.

781
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: Engaged by the house, doing all kinds of stuff everything.

782
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: Probably rehabbing too.

783
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: It needs a new crutch after something.

784
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I say that now it's probably just started

785
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: because injury like that, they don't let you rehab right away.

786
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: You get there's a there's when you're talking about a

787
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: lot of upper body. Yeah, there's stuff you can do

788
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: that way. But as far as the injured ankle, I

789
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: would think they have to just let it heal, Let

790
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: that that soft tissue heal with the surgery before they

791
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: can do too much crazy anyway, that's what's going on

792
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: right now right here, it's a Fan Morning Show. We

793
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: are already one hour deep, and then we got James

794
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: Boyd joining us from Baltimore about an hour from now.

795
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Purdue basketball. We'll talk a

796
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: little bit more about Kurt Signetti's second year now at Indiana,

797
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: and the phone lines will be open two two, three, nine,

798
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: ten seventy. You want to put your two tisneys, We'll

799
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: be more than happy to hear from you as we

800
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: continue The Fan Morning Show ninety three five and one

801
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: oh seven five the Fan. Now you're reading my playlist.

802
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: Mark Dyton, Wiggles and Patty Smith.

803
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: Now the Wiggles. When the kids were young prior to

804
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: their fourth birthdays, they were in on the wiggles. Then Head, Shoulders,

805
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: Knees and Toes was the big song back then. You

806
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: know that song, You've got to know that. So yeah,

807
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: of course, all right, Uh what Maxim Rosian on.

808
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 2: The head we lose we've lost humanity. There are times

809
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: I think we've lost it. But if we lose that song,

810
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: we certainly have.

811
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: Did the kids have a favorite wiggle?

812
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: No, I don't know if there's a favorite, but thankfully,

813
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: but I'm seeing this picture right here of the nineteen

814
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: thirty five Indiana State Fair.

815
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: This is a great Where'd you find that?

816
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: Uh?

817
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: I literate indie on Twitter? It's a great a great

818
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: follow there for kind of like historic indie pictures here.

819
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: I like that.

820
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that the rainal clear out, and uh, it'll

821
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: be a good day of the State Fair. We're gonna

822
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna check it out with the family later.

823
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a lot of fun. The records dabbling

824
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: it when the kids were younger, we haven't been in

825
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: the last year or two. They don't seem to be

826
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: as enthused now. I think they want to go with

827
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: their friends and no parents at this point.

828
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: Well, and now that you're Dad of the Year with

829
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: a sped up wi Fi, I want to stay that

830
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: way and you might get invited, says.

831
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: The rain is supposed to stop around nine to thirty

832
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: or so, and then it's gonna be a nice day.

833
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: Hi in the eighty to eighty one range in the afternoon.

834
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: So I think you're looking at pretty good day. Little cloudy,

835
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: but I think you're okay.

836
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: I love the sound of that.

837
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: All right, and we'll get a full report on everything

838
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: that again. I just want an elephant eer when I go.

839
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't need all the fancy foods and stuff like that.

840
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: Just give me an elephant air.

841
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: I'm an elephantare with butterfinger candy bar smashed on top

842
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: of it.

843
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I just want the I just want some powdered sugar.

844
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: Un It's all I want.

845
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: We can do that too. I don't want to live

846
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: a little. I don't need wild and crazy.

847
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: I don't need the wild and crazy. I respect basics.

848
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 2: You're a man of tradition.

849
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: That's what I like. James Boyd joining us from Baltimore.

850
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: Ready to go there, Go ahead, and the Payless Layers

851
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: Hotline did you make your way to the State Fair

852
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: yet or you're gonna wait till you get back.

853
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 4: That don't have to wait till I'll get back.

854
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: So what does your big day look like today? I

855
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: know that one o'clock is the joint practice. What was

856
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: your night in Baltimore night last night? And what's your

857
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: morning been like so far?

858
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 5: Last night I grabbed dinner with Nate Atkins from Indy Starr,

859
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 5: and obviously I had some seafood because I am in

860
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 5: Baltimore than o seafood, So.

861
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: I had some nice crab cakes yesterday. Those are pretty good.

862
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 5: And I'm at the hotel. It's a lot nicer than

863
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 5: I thought it would be. Honestly, when I booked it,

864
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 5: I just bound ful. Then I was clothed and cheap,

865
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 5: and yeah, I feel like I'm living a life that

866
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 5: is not mine right now.

867
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: Is that the Athletics Super eight hook up right there?

868
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 4: Yeah?

869
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 6: I don't know about that, but yeah, when I booked

870
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 6: it and they pulled up, I thought the guy was

871
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 6: at the wrong hotel, but I guess this is a Marriott.

872
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 6: And when I walked in, everyone was very, very fancy,

873
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 6: and I had on basketball source in the hoodie so.

874
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, crab cakes and football. That's what Maryland does, right.

875
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: James Lloyd with us here on the Payloss Slickers one

876
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: one o'clock today, Colts and Ravens. James, I'll leave it

877
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: two directions. You can choose where you want to go.

878
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: Anything stand out to you about the depth chart and

879
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: or a non quarterback item.

880
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 3: Or two that you're looking forward to today.

881
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 4: Not really with the depth chart. I don't put too

882
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 4: much stock into it. Obviously everyone's gonna freak.

883
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 5: Out over the Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones label, but

884
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 5: I've seen teams do that often throughout quarterback com Do you.

885
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: Think it's an or right now?

886
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: Or No? I think so? I think so. Well, are

887
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: you asking like does he know who he's gonna start

888
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 4: right now?

889
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: Right?

890
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: I mean like, do you like you know oftentimes I've

891
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: said this about college football. Jeff and I were talking

892
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: about earlier you put or on there just to make

893
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: sure the other quarterback doesn't transfer like it's in pro sports.

894
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: Do you literally think this is OR meaning fifty to fifty? Like,

895
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: do you literally think right now in Shane Steikeen's eyes,

896
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: it is fifty to fifty?

897
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 4: I think it's close to.

898
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 5: The fifty to fifty in his eyes, then maybe it

899
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 5: is among the fambis Kevin, how about that? I think

900
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 5: that if it is fifty five forty five one way

901
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 5: or the other, it's not by much right now. And

902
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 5: so I am curious though, because I will overreact to

903
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 5: anything that happens on Thursday night like everyone else will.

904
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 5: And I guess later this day as well, and who

905
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 5: gets the first team reps first up, you know, getting

906
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: the joint practice and things like that, and as far

907
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 5: as the rest of you know things. Looking at Kevin,

908
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 5: I really want to see, you know, one, what his

909
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 5: defense looks like today against obviously a very pop powered

910
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 5: office and he got with Lamar Jackson, who's you know,

911
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 5: I think one of the best quarterbacks in the game

912
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 5: is not you know, future Hall of Famer. And then

913
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 5: for offense, you know, how does Adie Mitchell look against

914
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 5: these guys you know a lot of the offense as well.

915
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 5: But I'm curious to see what he's you know, what

916
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 5: he can build on from last week's a couple of

917
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 5: practices where he looked pretty good.

918
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: One thing I'll point out depth chart wise, James that

919
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: you know, locally, I think it matters a little bit more.

920
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: But it's also something you and I discussed briefly yesterday.

921
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: I think I said to you, I don't think Jalen

922
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: Carlies is written in sharpie anymore on the depth chart,

923
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: And if you look at yesterday, not only is Jalen

924
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: Carlies not listed as a starter, the starter next to

925
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 2: ire Frank a linebacker is an Indie native in cam mcgroen,

926
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: a guy that I don't think a lot of people

927
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: probably have a great idea on just kind of his background.

928
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: And it's not like he has been a you know,

929
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: rotating player for the Colts. He's battle some injuries, been

930
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 2: mostly a special teamer. So that is one that did

931
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 2: stand out to me of, like you know, Carlies, internally,

932
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: they really expected him to be the starter, really no

933
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: debate about it. We didn't see them touch linebacker hardly

934
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: at all in the offseason.

935
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: So that's one that did stand out to me to

936
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 3: piggyback off that Kevin.

937
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: I do know Camera Brown pretty well.

938
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 5: Actually went to one of his holiday givebacks a couple

939
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 5: of years ago at Lawrence Central, and he's had some

940
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 5: injuries history.

941
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 4: He tried to fly through some things.

942
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 5: I think last year he missed him time with the

943
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 5: elbow injury. But this is a guy who obviously is

944
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 5: trying to make good on what Baller told us during

945
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 5: his preseason press conference, which was that some of these

946
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 5: guys who are no name guys will have to earn

947
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 5: their names throughout you know, some of these reps in

948
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 5: the preseason, throughout training camp, and obviously or early on

949
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 5: in the season as well. So we'll see if you

950
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 5: can supplant fully supplant Jaylen Carlys at that.

951
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: Other linebacker spot.

952
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I'm like, man, you just

953
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 5: hope as a cold fan, or if you're the coach

954
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 5: front office and you don't look up.

955
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 4: In a month or a month or two and say, dang,

956
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 4: we should have invested more in that position, because yes, these.

957
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 5: Guys are showing a little bit of promise throughout the

958
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 5: spring or throughout training camp, but they haven't really morphed

959
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 5: into being full time starters. That's my concern. Like, is

960
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 5: he a good depthy. Yeah, I think the cameraer grown

961
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 5: a few others probably are good depth tiosers. If you

962
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 5: get in a jam, you gotta For example, last year

963
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 5: when they had to start Rent Seward for a game,

964
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 5: he stepped up and gave him, you know, gamage his life.

965
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 4: Really, but can you get that every week from a guy?

966
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 4: I'm not so sure.

967
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 5: And then also Brooke comes to depth chart, Kevin Tanner

968
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 5: Borderlini over Danny Pincer for the starting center job. Danny's

969
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 5: missed some time recently. It was a couple of injuries,

970
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 5: and but that did stand out to me now looking

971
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 5: back at that depth chart. Obviously, Panna Borderlini, I think

972
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 5: was always kind of the front runner and away because

973
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 5: they drafted him fourth overall last year, and those guys usually.

974
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: Extarcted to play.

975
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: Sames boy joining us from Baltimore where he is not

976
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: only representing US, but with the athletic getting ready to

977
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: watch the Colts and Ravens joint practices later on today

978
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: one o'clock. These things are obviously controlled and situational in

979
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Both teams have specific things they're

980
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: trying to work on and they want to go against

981
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: other teams. What are you most looking forward to see

982
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: from the Colts perspective that they can maybe glean something

983
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: from here?

984
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: Obviously it's the quarterbacks.

985
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 5: I want to see if Anthony Richardson unlike last year

986
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 5: when they had their joint practice against the Bengals.

987
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 4: Can he go out there and perform.

988
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 5: And not have the defense basically say this God can't

989
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 5: do anything, because I remember very vividly goong the road

990
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: last year and the Bengals secondary was trash talking him like.

991
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 4: He wouldn't believe, you know, always throwing the spot. He's scared,

992
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: you know what is he doing?

993
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 5: And I would say that they were probably right to

994
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 5: a certain degree because we saw the season and he

995
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: had the forty seven point seven Colti percentage, which was

996
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 5: the worst in the league. So they were not you know,

997
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 5: lying about him being a poor passer time. So you know,

998
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 5: how does that conversation look if we are supposed enough

999
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 5: to hear some things on the raven side And the

1000
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 5: same thing for Daniel Jones. I want to see how

1001
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 5: do you respond to a defense that is Noney going

1002
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 5: to the best in the league. He's on paper and

1003
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 5: can you you know, can one of the two kind

1004
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 5: of separate from the other. I feel like every time

1005
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 5: that one has a good day, the other one kind

1006
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 5: of hangs with them, and the one has a bad day,

1007
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 5: the other kind of drops off with them. But will

1008
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 5: we see some separation today leading into Thursday.

1009
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: James, have you any seen anything on Lamar Jackson for today?

1010
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: I saw I missed yesterday due to a personal matter.

1011
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: I have not seen anything just yet on him. I'll

1012
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 4: be sure to check in with our you know, Ravens

1013
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 4: reporter as well. But I haven't seen anything just yet.

1014
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 2: Kevin Lamar to Cooper Rush should be boy like saying

1015
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna meet whatever, Kevin, Kevin.

1016
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: Bowen do I great everything with the ask for us

1017
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: at that?

1018
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: Heppen boy, Yeah, good luck with that.

1019
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: That's a hell of a trip to Baltimore to watch

1020
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: Cooper Rush. James Boy joining us live here from Baltimore.

1021
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: He'll be back coming up on Thursday. James, bear with

1022
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: me here for a second. But Jeff and I were

1023
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: debating a little bit earlier, you know about Anthony Rigson

1024
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: versus Daniel Jones, viewing how big of an elite trade

1025
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: as a runner that gives Richardson as a leg up. Now,

1026
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: I think it's fair to point out Daniel Jones is

1027
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: by no means a statue. This is not you know,

1028
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: I would even say Gardner Minshew, this is a guy

1029
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: that can make some plays with his legs. But you know,

1030
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: oftentimes in college, for example, you opt for the running

1031
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: quarterback because you're bad on the o line and or

1032
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: you don't have a bona fide running back. Well, the

1033
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: Colts theoretically they are good there, like Jonathan Taylor is

1034
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 2: an elite runner and the offensive line is supposedly good,

1035
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: whereas you have questions about getting the ball to Tyler Warren,

1036
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: getting the ball to a wide receiver group that you're

1037
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: optimistic about for the first time in a while. Do

1038
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,959
Speaker 2: you think any of that plays into Shane Steichen's mind

1039
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: of like, again, we don't necessarily need the elite quarterback runner. Yes,

1040
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: it's advantageous, but we have the lead running back that's

1041
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: a top five guy in the league. We have an

1042
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: offensive line that we really like. We need someone to

1043
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 2: get it to the pass catchers. Do you think any

1044
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: of that is on Change's mind when deciding between these two.

1045
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 4: It has to be, in my.

1046
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 5: Opinion, because yes, Anthony Richardson changes the mass and I

1047
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 5: do think that we kind of think it. For granted,

1048
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 5: you know what it looks like when he's in there

1049
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 5: and he has somebody next to him like Davin Taylor

1050
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 5: and with his legs and the ability to kind of

1051
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 5: have to guess in the defense he's gonna create Ryan

1052
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: Lanes for you. However, at some point in the NFL,

1053
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 5: not rocket signs, So you gotta put the ball down

1054
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: the field. You got to go to move the change

1055
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 5: through the air. And he has this shown the consistent ability.

1056
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: To do that.

1057
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: And if Daniel Jones can.

1058
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 5: Get you the ball to your guys and kind of

1059
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 5: give him some room to work with, perhaps that's more

1060
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 5: enticing for shame psych and perhaps that's more you know,

1061
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 5: persuading for him because in his mind he has to

1062
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 5: be thinking, well, I've seen the Anthony Richardson experiment, you know,

1063
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 5: for the last two years, and obviously the injuries played

1064
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 5: a part in all that, but he's never really shown

1065
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 5: he can get the ball to the right guys at

1066
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 5: a very high level consimpently.

1067
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: And if he did show that, I would say, propagating.

1068
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 5: Back to his last year, I mean his rookie year,

1069
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 5: and I believe he's maybe a fifty nine percent completion

1070
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 5: percent beca that was only four games, simple size. So yeah,

1071
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 5: and that's why I think today it is such a

1072
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 5: big step forward for Anthony potentially when it comes to

1073
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,479
Speaker 5: that conversation, because you need to be able to show guys,

1074
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 5: I'm not just this one trip pony where if I

1075
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 5: chuck it deep, if someone catches it, you know, I

1076
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 5: can throw it farther than anybody else. Perhaps, like you

1077
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 5: show some finesse and some touch as well to make

1078
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 5: life easier on you know, on this offense and really

1079
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: just keep the change moving, because there were just too

1080
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 5: many drives last year where they could not score. And

1081
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 5: I believe Kevin you you might check this every year

1082
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 5: for the coach, but like they could never really score

1083
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 5: after the first drive, and a lot of that had

1084
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 5: to do with the inability to pass the ball, you know,

1085
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 5: down the field.

1086
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: What's on the agenda tonight, Nate Atkins getting into some things.

1087
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we'll try to grab dinner with the crew.

1088
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 5: Obviously, I think I'm the only one, uh you know,

1089
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 5: uh not drinking, so I worry about being you know,

1090
00:46:58,920 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 5: hung over anything like that.

1091
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 4: Give her the rest of the time here, but everyone

1092
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 4: else is I'm sure gonna have a good time and

1093
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 4: obvious gonna go too crazy.

1094
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 5: But yeah, I think we're gonna try to meet up

1095
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 5: unofficially as a staff. I know Jake Arthur is out

1096
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 5: here for Locked on Colts and Colts SI, and then

1097
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 5: Stephen Holder is here as well from ESPN. Somebody we'll

1098
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 5: get a little unofficial Colts beat dinner together, which would be.

1099
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: Nice, all right. James Boyd joining us from Baltimore on

1100
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: the Payloss Lickers Hotline. You're in a terrific piece this

1101
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: week about undrafted free agents. I know the Colts had

1102
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: a long streak of undrafted free agents making the team

1103
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: for a while. There there are two guys making a

1104
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: run at it so far this year, Devonte Davis and Tyler.

1105
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: Come on, you talked about either one of those guys

1106
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: have a shot.

1107
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: I think Tyler. I believe it's came in. I had

1108
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 4: to correct myself if it's not.

1109
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 5: But I believe Tyler has a chance, a better chance

1110
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 5: than Davonte to make the team he flashed. I believe

1111
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 5: throughout some of the team periodf even Kevin has kind

1112
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 5: of seen some of the stuff he's done.

1113
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 4: With Roley Leonard in that third.

1114
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: String number forty three. I always think he's a tight

1115
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: end when he catched the ball.

1116
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that he could be like a

1117
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 5: practice squad guy. I don't know if he'll makes the

1118
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 5: officiency three man roster might be a little bit tough.

1119
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 5: Same for Devonte Davis, but either way, both have incredible stories.

1120
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 5: For Devonte Davis, he comes from Union Springs, Alabama, a

1121
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 5: town of about thirty five hundred people you know, media

1122
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 5: and in comes about twenty five thousand dollars. And the

1123
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 5: way he's put at, people from Union Springs never really

1124
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 5: leave Union Springs. And so for him to be, you know,

1125
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: going off to college at Jackson State, played for Deon Sanders,

1126
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 5: played at Florida Atlantic, and now has the chance to

1127
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 5: you know, play in the NFL or try to you know,

1128
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 5: get there, it's a huge thing for a city. He

1129
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 5: actually have to keep in the city back in May,

1130
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 5: and he told me he's also planned for his late

1131
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 5: brother that passed away actually before his pro day. So

1132
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 5: he's got a lot on his plate, a lot to

1133
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 5: be grateful for in this tradition, and a lot of

1134
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 5: perspective on life coming for where he's come from. And

1135
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 5: then Tyler Cayman is someone who's just dominated at the

1136
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 5: D two level, played it in Foroia State in Kansas

1137
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 5: and put up like Jerry Rice's numbers. Seriously, I mean

1138
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 5: he's got the records for you know, most catches, touchdown,

1139
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 5: receiving yards, et cetera, et cetera in that school's history.

1140
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 5: And he's trying to become these first Empooria State you know,

1141
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 5: wide receiver in the NFL. And so he talked to

1142
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 5: me about, you know, just the journey. And this is

1143
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 5: a guy who went up Againt Dallas Flowers actually familiar

1144
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 5: face with Colt fans in college as a freshman and

1145
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 5: had a big game and that was when one of

1146
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 5: his coaches thought he would have a chance, an outside

1147
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 5: chance to possibly gets in the NFL.

1148
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 4: And and now he's going on the doorstep.

1149
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 5: And so just two guys that I feel like cold

1150
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 5: Stayers should know about and perhaps root for because there

1151
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 5: are some feel good stories there among all of the

1152
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 5: you know, QB chaos and quarterback competitions.

1153
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: Looking forward to seeing it for those guys pop tomorrow night.

1154
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: One of the other guys I'm looking forward to. And

1155
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: you and I have talked about this a little bit.

1156
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: We talked about it on the show earlier today. I'm

1157
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm in on Ady Mitchell kind of having a little

1158
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: bit of a breakthrough this year. I know it's a

1159
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: it's a good wide receiver core for all kid.

1160
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: Numbers of James any catches for seven hundred and fifty

1161
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: yards he's got for Ady Mitchell this year? Is that?

1162
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: Is that way out of the of the possibility because

1163
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: I I think this guy is incredibly talented, and I

1164
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: think if he gets a report gun where they are there,

1165
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: there could be something happening there.

1166
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: Said eight catches. Yeah, oh you know, I'm gonna pick

1167
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 4: the under on that one. Just because of who the

1168
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 4: quarterback is and he's not the number one guy.

1169
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 5: It's a lot of balls to be thrown at him,

1170
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 5: a lot of passes to be thrown at him.

1171
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 4: Mark, you can clip that.

1172
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: That's about five catches a game.

1173
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he's getting five catches a game.

1174
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 4: That's a lot. He'd be a number one receiver.

1175
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1176
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: No, I cannot know, Jeff, I cannot go that far.

1177
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 4: I mean, and tell me more. Last year, maybe I

1178
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 4: could rock with you when we were talking about a

1179
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 4: guy who did the score last year, had a red rough.

1180
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 5: Up and down last year, and honestly, even going into

1181
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 5: this year, the regular season, I tell questions about him

1182
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 5: catching you know, over the middle and being a physical

1183
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 5: receiver and you know, making sure he finishes the play

1184
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 5: when he's gonna get hit in the ribcage or hitting the.

1185
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 4: Leg or something like that. But I do you know,

1186
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: I don't want to you know, poo poo it too much,

1187
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 4: because he is someone.

1188
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 5: Who has shown some promise in a step forward in

1189
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 5: training camp. But as I was with eighty Mitchell, similar

1190
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 5: to Anthony, can you do it.

1191
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: On Sundays, I'm putting the pressure on the young man.

1192
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm expecting us. Do you mean do you

1193
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: mean to have a chat with him? I'll sit down.

1194
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: Tell Shane, I'll sit down and have a conversation with it.

1195
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 4: Man.

1196
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 5: I don't think eighty Mitchell is trying to hear what

1197
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 5: any of us have to say. He's quite the character

1198
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 5: and a very confident young man.

1199
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 4: So we'll see what happened.

1200
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 3: He had one catch one game last season where he

1201
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: had six receptions. That was his high water mark. Everything

1202
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 3: else was he had four receptions one time. Everything else

1203
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: was two to one or nothing mark.

1204
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 4: The thing that stand out to me is catching the

1205
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 4: ball at the New.

1206
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 5: York Jets and he had a chance to score and

1207
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 5: he cut back and got tackled with the one yard line,

1208
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 5: and so yeah, that that image is kind of Friday

1209
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 5: to my brain. Obviously, the double passes too, So he's

1210
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 5: gonna have told me a lot more before you had

1211
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 5: him the key to say he's going for you know,

1212
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 5: seven hundred plus yards and eighty plus catches that would be.

1213
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 5: So that would be a lot of catches for a

1214
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 5: very small amount of yards. So if he's catching eighty passes.

1215
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: He better you know, clear it out yard let's go,

1216
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: I said, Now, we'll see. I'd like it. I'm in

1217
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: on it. I'm in on eighty emerging, especially in the

1218
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: second half of the season. I'm in there.

1219
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 5: I'm in Hey, if he just if he gets uh,

1220
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 5: let's just say, if he has you know, thirty five

1221
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 5: catches for five hundred yard, it's probably a big year.

1222
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: For him, and a couple of testsdown, well, I think

1223
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: it'll be more than that. We'll see.

1224
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: He was targeted fifty five times last year and I

1225
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: believe he.

1226
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 4: Caught twenty three of them, which is like a terrible percentage.

1227
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, we'll see.

1228
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: All right, everybody's got their outlandish prediction. That's mine, Okay,

1229
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: all right, all right, buddy, have a great day. We

1230
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: appreciate you. We'll talk to you again tomorrow morning. Let

1231
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: us know whatthing big happens today. Thank you.

1232
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 3: James.

1233
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: All Right, have a good one.

1234
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: There is third member of our booth, James Boyd on

1235
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: the payloss Liquors hotline. Yeah, that's my outrageous prediction. I'm

1236
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: sticking with it.

1237
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I need money on that one, and I

1238
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 3: need your money on the ten and a half or

1239
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 3: eleven wins one team. That's what the parlay right there.

1240
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: I made my thoughts known on that a little bit earlier,

1241
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: but yeah, I want to say Mitchell was like one

1242
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: forty nine out of one fifty something last year and

1243
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: catch percentage of the entire NFL. So honestly, I think

1244
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: where I would just disagree the most is I don't

1245
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: see where he would get that playing time and or

1246
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: those targets like who are you taking I guess let

1247
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: me ask that, who are you taking the playing time

1248
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 2: away from?

1249
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: Well, we like Alec Pearson. You had a what did

1250
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: Alex have like thirty five catches?

1251
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: So you're taking away from Pittman Piercer downs, I think,

1252
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 2: and you've added Tyler Warren to the mix, which is

1253
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: probably worth pointing out as well. I think he'll be

1254
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: right there in the mix. I think he probably I

1255
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: think I'll get in the mix. And eighty catches are

1256
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: two different states.

1257
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: No, I'm telling you, I think I think he'll keep

1258
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: Josh Downs off the field more often than that. I

1259
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: think you can't keep Alec Pearce.

1260
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: Or I just don't see a lot wide out out

1261
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: of a d Mitchell. I see a slot wide out

1262
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 2: of Josh Downs.

1263
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm just telling you. I like I

1264
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: just I think he I don't often see. Let me

1265
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: let me say this the best way. I want to

1266
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: make sure I say this correctly. I think he's got

1267
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: a physical skill set that the rest of those guys

1268
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: do not have, and if the light comes on, I

1269
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: think that there are big things ahead for him. Let's

1270
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: put it that way.

1271
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree with that general thought, but going

1272
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: from where he was in year one to all of

1273
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: a sudden, eighty catches and seven hundred and fifty yards

1274
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: in a year two just seems like.

1275
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: I could see him want coming the go to guy.

1276
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: If Richardson gets his confidence up and back, I.

1277
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: Really might see him to anybody catches eighty ball. I mean,

1278
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: I think we're forgetting like Tyler Warrens on the football team.

1279
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: And that's a lot of catches.

1280
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: Again, Josh Downs led the team of seventy two last year.

1281
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and nobody really stood up and made themselves separate

1282
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 1: from the back last year either.

1283
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: No, that's the thing. So yeah, if you're getting eighty catches.

1284
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: Right, and some of that was dependent on the quarterback,

1285
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: who who was going to be the quarterback week the week?

1286
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 5: Right?

1287
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess that's the debate you have. Has

1288
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: a quarterback position improved for the Colts?

1289
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: I think again, I think I think Anthony Richardson is

1290
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: going to play much better this year. I think he's

1291
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: a lot more focused. From what I can tell from

1292
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: the outside looking at I'm not there every day, he

1293
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: appears to be a lot more focused. I think he's,

1294
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, you know, he's had

1295
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: weird injuries. Does that make him injury prone? I guess

1296
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: we'll find out by the end of this year. He's

1297
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: still a young guy. He's had a full couple of

1298
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: years to bake in on what Shane Stikeen wants and

1299
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: what he's trying to do. It's got to be better

1300
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: this year. It's got to be and I think he's

1301
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: going to be better. And I think that puts receivers

1302
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: in a much better spot to do some things. And

1303
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: I think having a great running game takes some pressure

1304
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: off that.

1305
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably will.

1306
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 2: If I'm going to bet on a big catch guy

1307
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: of anybody of those names you just mentioned, I think

1308
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: they're going to try to get the ball to Tyler

1309
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: Warren a lot, just in different ways.

1310
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1311
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: I think if anybody's been out there at Grand Park,

1312
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: you have seen Tyler Warren utilize in a variety of ways.

1313
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: And how many total catches the Cults have last year? Mark,

1314
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: do you have that in front of you?

1315
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: Total catches?

1316
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Total receptions?

1317
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 3: Uh, total receptions last year was two hundred and eighty

1318
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 3: nine out of four hundred and ninety two for three

1319
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: and ninety nine yards.

1320
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, for anybody to get an kind of numbers

1321
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 1: are gonna have to be well over three hundred, which

1322
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: is what most teams are doing. Again.

1323
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 3: Josh Downs led the team with seventy two receptions, Michael

1324
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 3: Pittman Junior sixty nine, and then a steep drop off

1325
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 3: Alk Pierce thirty seven eighty Mitchell twenty three, Jonathan Taylor eighteen,

1326
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 3: so on and so forth.

1327
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: I just feel like he's ready to break out. I

1328
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: want to tell you, I.

1329
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: Want that parlay. You need to tell me what those

1330
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 3: odds are. Eighty Mitchell over catches?

1331
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 2: Are you tailing that parlay?

1332
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 5: Mark?

1333
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 3: I mean, I want to know what the payout is

1334
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 3: going to because it's going to be like a million dollars.

1335
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: Do you have an outrageous predictions something that is a

1336
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: little bit out there, stretching it?

1337
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 3: But happened eighty catch it?

1338
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: If you said, hey, you know, if somebody can catch Adia, well,

1339
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: I would probably opt for Tyler Warren more than I

1340
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: would opt for Adie Mitchell.

1341
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: As a rookie. You think grow coming right out of

1342
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: the gate.

1343
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 3: I think he's got a better chance at Adie Mitchell.

1344
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: Wow.

1345
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 2: Again, you know, when I asked you where's Adie Mitchell

1346
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: taking playing time from? I didn't really hear where he's

1347
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 2: taken playing time. You said, Josh Downs, He's not a

1348
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: slot wide out.

1349
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: No, you're right, I'm just looking at the overall talent.

1350
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: I just think he's gonna be on the field.

1351
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: He's a talented guy, certainly, but you've got to earn

1352
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: the coaching staff's trust, and I think they trust Michael

1353
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: Pittman Junior, they trust Alec Pearce. Blocking also factors into

1354
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: Josh downs. They feel like it is a very high

1355
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 2: level slot wide out. Again, Tyler Warren, I think has

1356
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: already earned more trust there. So I don't know where

1357
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: those opportunities come from.

1358
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: I hear everything you're saying, and I again, I don't

1359
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: have a ton to base it on other than I

1360
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: see the skill set. I like receivers in their second season.

1361
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: I think he's got a better skill set physically than

1362
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: anybody else on that team. And I just think if

1363
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: if there's one guy that a guy like Anthony Richardson

1364
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: can build a connection with on that outside, it feels

1365
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: like eighty is a guy that moving forward, they could be.

1366
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: They could be a duo. That's how I feel.

1367
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: Should we check it out?

1368
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was waiting for you to. I wouldn't quite

1369
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: sure where you were gonna go.

1370
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if we were going to continue it,

1371
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: or if we could finally talk about this since now

1372
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: I thought you were just

1373
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: Giving me the silent dreaming, like I can't believe you're

1374
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: saying this, well, yeah, that is true.