1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Fifteen, You're facing with the Most Submissive the Carl Nelson Show, You're. 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: Fucking with the most. 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: And grand Rising family. And welcome to Wednesday on w 4 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: L watching the DC. Thanks for waking up with us. Later, 5 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 3: Quansa creator, doctor Malana Kreger will turn to our classroom. 6 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: Doctor Krengo will share how he conceived the idea of 7 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: Quansa and why the celebration is much more than an 8 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: alternative to Christmas. Doctor Krengo will also reveal how he 9 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: developed the seven guiding principles, the canar and the candlelighting ceremony. 10 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: But before we hear from doctor Kerengo, Gavia I brother 11 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: Singha by A will introduce us to some inspiring guests 12 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: who will share some of their quans of plans and traditions. 13 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 3: But here's what's making us this Thursday morning, Christmas Eve 14 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: for someone this twenty fourth day of December, the US 15 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: Supreme Court is blocking the Trump administration's plans to deploy 16 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 3: not the National Guard in Chicago. Newly released Epstein documents 17 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: indicate the President traveled on Epstein's playing more than first 18 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: and reported They say travel eight times, and Donald Trump 19 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 3: says the new York Times is a is a detriment 20 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: to the national security, a threat to national security, I 21 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: should say. Anyway, let's get started by here Gavi sing 22 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: by Grand rising, brother Saint God. 23 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: And rise and call in to the listeners. How are 24 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: you this morning? 25 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: I'm still learning, brother sing God. I'm still learning to 26 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: get into this classroom here. I know you've got a 27 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: bunch of folks that you you want to introduce to 28 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: us on this day before Christmas for some and some 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: of us are celebrating Quanta. 30 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: Certainly do, but let me first wish everybody hope everybody's 31 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: had or it's having a prosperous winter solstice, which is 32 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: an extremely important time of the year. Of course, tomorrow 33 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 4: the new sun, the renewed son, will come in, and 34 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 4: then of course on the twenty six through the first, 35 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 4: we'll be celebrating Kwanza that has been created over since 36 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: nineteen sixty six. But it's very important for us to 37 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 4: understand Kuansa principles relevant year round. So what we have today, 38 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: I've brought some guests on well, not to guests to 39 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: you call, but guests to some of your listeners. And 40 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 4: maybe I am, but I've been on before I got 41 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: brother Obion I don't know what he's called in yet, 42 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 4: and his daughters, the Holly Girls. And I have sister 43 00:02:52,800 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 4: Tilla Paul Lacy, who is a very very powerful sister 44 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 4: in the DC community doing a lot with young brothers 45 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: and sisters. But also both of them grew up in 46 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: the community, the United Black Community or the cultural community 47 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: of Banca City, Washington, d C. And she represents a 48 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 4: group that's doing a lot of work called head smart Heads, 49 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: smart hood sparked and hood sparked very very important. 50 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 51 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: And a lot of our young people are doing great work. 52 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: Sometimes we hear so much in the news about things 53 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 4: that are not going so well with young people, but 54 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: the reality is most of our young people are on 55 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: course and trying to move forward and trying to navigate 56 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 4: through all of this confusion and diversion away from real 57 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 4: cultural identity. So I don't know who's on the line yet, 58 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. 59 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: We're both underline. 60 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: So it will go withlves and then we'll get right 61 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: into it. So if we want to start with sister Atia, 62 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: good morning, Uh, my sister, how are you tease? 63 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 6: Good morning? Good morning baba, and teach you all the 64 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 6: listeners and tc you too, our hosts, thank you so 65 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 6: much for having us. 66 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, brother Obi, good morning, Baba sing Gore, Good morning 67 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 7: Baba Carl Nelson, his brother Obi here on the phone. 68 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 7: And I'm with the illustrious. 69 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 5: A'mminica chef suits. 70 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 7: My partner and wife. 71 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 5: Peace and blessings, Atiya. How are you? Sisters? Hey, how 72 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 5: are you? 73 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 8: How are you? 74 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 5: In peace and blessings, babak Baba thing Gore. 75 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: It's a pleasure, my dear sister. It's a pleasure having 76 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 4: y'all on a lot to share. 77 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 7: Of course, I'm sorry, well, I don't want to cut 78 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 7: you off. But also we have and I guess we 79 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 7: can get into it a little bit later. But we 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 7: have our daughters, the Holly Girls on the line, who 81 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 7: going to be helping to make clients of pop heavy 82 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 7: this year. Are they on the line right now? 83 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: Let them introduce control. 84 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: I don't see them yet on the line, so I 85 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: guess they'll join us later. You guys going from the 86 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: West coast, go ahead, sing. 87 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 4: Quite a few people were trying to call in because 88 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: this is a it's not about a meet things that 89 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 4: we think, and so we got families on that are 90 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: going to share. So I just want to start by saying, 91 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 4: you know, this is a very very very important time 92 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: for us. I know it's a lot of things going on, 93 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: but we need to stay focused on the real deal, 94 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: which is Pan African universal African nationalism and doing our 95 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: best to pass on the positive information and knowledge the 96 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: generations that follow us. So this is a legacy and 97 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: attribute always to our ancestors, because if we're not for 98 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 4: our ancestors, we would not be. In fact, there's many 99 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 4: more ancestors than us, so we are just honored. So 100 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: I'm not going to do a lot of talk in 101 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: this segment. I want to hear a lot from a 102 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: tear about the Quansa that's coming up on Niah Knight. 103 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 4: And I also want to hear about the Ujama joint 104 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: which Obi and I'm an America could also share in 105 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: until we get the Holly Girls and some other guests 106 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: that we call them at seven. So let's let's start 107 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 4: off by talking a little bit about the first day Moja. 108 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 4: That's the time when we all unify and come together. 109 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: And you know the good thing about the DMV call, 110 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: we have many many Quanta programs going on. We have 111 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 4: the United Black community that has a whole litany of organizations. 112 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 4: But then we have Union Temple. We have so many 113 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 4: other Union Temple is doing something every day. We have 114 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: so many different things going on, even in Baltimore, even 115 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: in Virginia and all over. And this is encouraging because 116 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 4: we set the stage for the world because Quans is 117 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: celebrated now world, why even in Africa. Uh So, anyway, 118 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 4: without any further ado, let's start with uh jam joint 119 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: since that comes up before mea knight. 120 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: Who's going to discuss that one? I just mentioned your 121 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: name because we we we don't know who this is radio, 122 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: so when you speak just French. First, just mentioned your name, 123 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: so we'll know who's speaking. Okay, who's speaking? 124 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 7: Absolutely, So Barba san gord uh you want to talk 125 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 7: about the Ujima Joint or did you say the Moja. 126 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: General Obi Quanji in general? But you know because you 127 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: were one of the founding members of the you and 128 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 4: uh uh, my dear Empress were part of the founding 129 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: uh that. So give a little bit of background on 130 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: that and then we're gonna segue into my dear sister 131 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: a tea and then I'm gonna talk a little bit 132 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: about the the awards that we're giving again this year 133 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 4: that we do and to a lot of brothers and 134 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: sisters the many know, So go ahead to Obi. 135 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 7: All right, well, well, thank you, thank you, and I'm 136 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 7: also aware that the girls are on the call and 137 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 7: we'll bring them on in just one one second as 138 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 7: we carry on in the discussion peace and love. Thank 139 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 7: you for this opportunity, Baba Carl Nelson, for allowing us 140 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 7: to come on here and speak and talk about this. 141 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 7: You know, my name is Obie Holly Washington, d C. Natives, 142 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 7: and we actually as young people, my my wife and 143 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 7: I and uh, just about the name of Ie. It's 144 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 7: just about the name of Malkiakia Lydia, even Juwanza Zulu 145 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 7: and a whole bunch of others, whole whole host of others, 146 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 7: Kimbolydia and family. We were actually raised in the Pan 147 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 7: African community and we had parents and grandparentsant that were 148 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 7: always you know, around us, inviting us and encouraging us 149 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 7: to kind of to represent and help to carry the 150 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 7: torch forward just in the you know, uplifting the African 151 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 7: people in whatever way that we could. And of course 152 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 7: Kwansa being a very important time of the year, we 153 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 7: were influenced heavy with that, and so early on we 154 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 7: were kind of giving the mantle to to take over 155 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 7: a night of Kwansa and do an event. And with 156 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 7: that back in the day. Right now, I'm not going 157 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 7: to get into how old I am too much, but 158 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 7: I'm a little bit older than I used to be. 159 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 7: But back in the day, we started, I mean in 160 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 7: our late teens hosting Kwanza events on Ujima Knights, and 161 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 7: then by the time we became in our twenties, I 162 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 7: can't remember if it was you, Barber Senor or somebody 163 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 7: called us twenty something collective, only something collected and before 164 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 7: that just a favor. 165 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: Oh behold on a second, give us a favorite, Oh 166 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: be given you know, because you we want to find 167 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: out when you when did you come into Quanta. When 168 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 3: did you first understand Quansa, Because there's a gap. 169 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 7: Here, Listen, I understood Kwanta as an individual one. I 170 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 7: think when I when I first uh, I started going 171 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 7: to Nation House where I told the Nation House Positive 172 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 7: Access Center back when I was like ten years old. 173 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 9: My I was going. 174 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: Remember returning to people all across the country. Now, so 175 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: people don't know you know you made. I know you're 176 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: in l A and you speaking DC, but people don't 177 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 3: know these names. I just remember that twice telephone. Everybody 178 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: knows everything we don't. But go ahead, now you're. 179 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 7: Right, you're right, Well, thank you so much. Yes, absolutely, well, 180 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 7: there's you know, in the country, there are you know, 181 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 7: Pan African independent schools for Black children and African children. 182 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 7: And then Nashley and d C is very hisork when 183 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 7: it comes to that. You have Ujama Shoele which was 184 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 7: founded by Baba Zulu, his wife and family, which is 185 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 7: considered either the first or the second independent Pan African 186 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 7: school in history in the United States. And then I 187 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 7: think around the I think it would be considered the third. 188 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 7: You have Nation House Positive Action Center or Watoto School 189 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 7: or Watoto Shoela, which is another independent Pan African school, 190 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 7: you know, which tore African history, mathematics, everything in. 191 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 9: A very. 192 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 7: Strong way that was ideologically based on African history and 193 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 7: the idea that black people can do for self kuji 194 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 7: chakuala self determination. And these schools were started in the 195 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 7: late sixties early seventies all over the country actually, but 196 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 7: here in DC you had Howard University right down the street. 197 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 7: So you had a lot of people coming out of 198 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 7: the Howard University experience, a lot of people coming out 199 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 7: of the Malcolm X's experience, the Martin Luther King experience, 200 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 7: the Black Power experience, the Black Panther experience, the Republican 201 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 7: New Africa experience, and they was starting schools that they 202 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 7: wanted to have this for their children because they understood that, 203 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 7: you know, the public school system in their minds, was 204 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 7: not fulfilling the needs of black children. And because of that, 205 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 7: they became exposed to all of these concepts and ideas, 206 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 7: one of them obviously being you know, Quansa. And so 207 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 7: by the time I came to the school, and I 208 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 7: think ninth I don't even want to say a yeah, 209 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 7: But about nineteen eighty, Kwanza had already been a tradition. 210 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 7: I remember before I came to Watoto Nation House Positive 211 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 7: Action Center, I remember coming to a Quanzi event. I 212 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 7: think was my first time actually even hearing about natan 213 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 7: House because my kid, my parents at the time, had 214 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 7: had me and they had put me in a white 215 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 7: school because I was selling in academics, spelling and reading, 216 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 7: and so they took me out of the inner city 217 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 7: school and put me in a white school for a 218 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 7: few years, but the white school put me back a 219 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 7: few grades, and so then they before they took me 220 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 7: out of the white school and put me in a 221 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 7: Nation house, they took me to a Quaniti event to see, 222 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 7: I guess if I liked it, And to be honest, 223 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 7: I was intimidated and a little fraid because all the 224 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 7: kids in there were in front of the podium giving 225 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 7: speeches and reading so sophisticated and reciting so much stuff. 226 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 7: I couldn't believe that these kids were so much more 227 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 7: advanced than I was at that age, and they were 228 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 7: younger than me. And I remember Baba A j who 229 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 7: was one of the male founders of that school, and 230 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 7: he was just this very strong, like fiery young man 231 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 7: teaching that was helping to organize the school. And I 232 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 7: remember thinking, man, I hope I never have to go 233 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 7: to this school because this is intimidating. But the next thing, 234 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 7: you know, my parents nasked me out that white through 235 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 7: put me in Nate out and from that point on, 236 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 7: I don't know, I was ten years old. We were 237 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 7: doing Kwanza in my family, in my household ever since, 238 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 7: and we've been doing it ever since. All the way 239 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 7: to this day. 240 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 5: But it was your grandmother's decision. Mama Mama, the late 241 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: Mama alma Ayatoo Assante, who was a community activist school 242 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 5: put him in that school. You know who put him in. 243 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 5: It was her decision to put you into Ujamshoele. And 244 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 5: I mean I'm into into Wao. 245 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: Yes, all right, fan, fourteen minutes after the top of 246 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: the hold on the second, fellows how on a second 247 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: fourteen minutes after the top of there, just check it 248 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: in just waking up on this Christmas Eve for some 249 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: of you, this twenty fourth day of December. We have 250 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: a brother Seango is a similar panel of folks to 251 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: talk about Kwanza. And if you're sharing the voice of 252 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: brother Obi, So Brother Obi, I'm let you continue. Is 253 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: Brother Obi? There have we lost him? 254 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 9: Yes? 255 00:14:58,680 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 7: Yes, we're right here. 256 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 5: Oh go ahead, okay. 257 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 7: And so you know it was from going to schools 258 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 7: like Watoto Nation House. 259 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 260 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 7: And I also I went to a school that was 261 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 7: old Sarah set operated a school called Osabama Soup back 262 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 7: in those days. And you know I was I bounced 263 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 7: around a couple of times and that you know these institutions, Uh, 264 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 7: every holiday we weren't doing Christmas. We were doing Kwanza, 265 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 7: and so early on, the students at these schools had 266 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 7: to learn how to recite the principals. They had to 267 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 7: learn each principle they had to learn. We even took 268 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 7: swy Hilly. You know that the principals are in Swahili hill. 269 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 7: We had to learn twy hilly. We had to be 270 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 7: able to say moja and billy tattoo in a kind 271 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 7: of seata siby. Oh my god, I can't remember, I 272 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 7: can remember all the numbers. And we had to do 273 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 7: this every every every year, and so we we it 274 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 7: became ingrained in us. As a matter of fact, a 275 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 7: lot of the people now all the people, but a 276 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 7: lot of the people who helped launch the Quansa that 277 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 7: we launched. We went to independent Pan African schools, whether 278 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 7: it was Swatoka, whether it was Ujamaishuele, whether it was Roots. 279 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 7: We all a lot of us went to those schools. 280 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 7: And the ones that didn't go through those schools, the 281 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 7: ones that kind of came in, we kind of influenced 282 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 7: them and got them on board. So by the time 283 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 7: we were in the organization that our parents helped establish 284 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 7: for the African Youth Council. Years later in high school, 285 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 7: right before we all went to college. It was around 286 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 7: that time that we made a commitment that we need 287 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 7: to help carry on the tradition, and the adults at 288 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 7: the time saw to it that we would help carry 289 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 7: the Manthu and you know, encourage us to take a 290 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 7: day and be responsible for it. And that's been going 291 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 7: on ever since. 292 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: All right, hold, that's all right, then we've got to 293 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: step aside for a few minutes. Talk our family. Just 294 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: checking in, brothers saying God's assemble a panel of young 295 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: folks who are celebrating Quanta. They tell us how they 296 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: started recognizing Quanta and how did they celebrate it first. 297 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 3: You got questions for them, you would like to talk 298 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 3: to them, reach out to us at eight hundred four 299 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your 300 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 3: phone calls next. 301 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 10: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show. 302 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 3: And Grand Rising family. Thanks for waking up with us 303 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: on this twenty fourth day of December. We're discussing quansa 304 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: brother Saint Gore's a symbol of panel of youngsters, the 305 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 3: young folks, I should say younger than us. At least 306 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: to discuss Quansa when they first came into Quansa before 307 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: we go back there. Love, if you're traveling today, please 308 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 3: take us along. We need to just download the app 309 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: and you can take us along and listen to us 310 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: all day long and all of the next few days 311 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 3: as well. Doctor Karreng will be here today and tomorrow 312 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: clink of psychologist doctor Johnny Fox will will join us 313 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 3: as well. And let me just shout out our la 314 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: peeps out there because the range storms on the way 315 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: and when they're expecting two or three inches of rain 316 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: now out there. When it rains, you know, they never 317 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 3: ranged in southern Californa. When it does, it's bad news, 318 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: especially for those ears that was scarred by the fires 319 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: early last year in January. So if you guys have that, 320 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: be careful. Eight and four five zero seventy eight seventy six. 321 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: You have questions to the panel, lesson, I'm going to 322 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: call the use let's go back to brother Obi. So, 323 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 3: Brother Obi, I'll let you finish your thoughts. 324 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 7: Hey, I appreciate it, thank you so much. And so 325 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 7: in the UH when we were about twenty a group 326 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 7: of us continue and really started developing our quadra tradition 327 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 7: and this was what we wh when was this aminica? 328 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 5: This was because we were this was in we were 329 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 5: about twenty nineteen ninety, around nineteen nineteen ninety. We were 330 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 5: approached by the elders and acts if we could. But 331 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 5: we were approached by you know, Baba ka Umba, Barbara 332 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 5: Rossa Sikh and Baba La Mumba. 333 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 7: These are dc of Pan African. 334 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 5: Icons, elders and the Pan africanis leaders who told us, hey, 335 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 5: you know, we need you all to you know, step 336 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 5: up to the plate and continue with this tradition and said, 337 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 5: you know, we would like for you all to take 338 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: you know, ujima night and. 339 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: What you mean and asked both of you, let me 340 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: ask both of you this. Did any of you ever 341 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: celebrate Christmas? Or was this or how did you see 342 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: this in comparison to Christmas? 343 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 9: Oh? 344 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 5: Most certainly I grew up celebrating Christmas. And it was 345 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 5: so Quansa was very very very new to me, you know. 346 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 5: But as you know, so it was my my husband 347 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 5: Obi who introduced kwanza to me, to my person and 348 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 5: so uh it was it was it was interesting that 349 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 5: that was my perception at the time. Oh, this is interesting. 350 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: You know, how does this work? Oh it's seven days. Wow, 351 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 5: that's even more interesting. Oh answer isn't a part of it? 352 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 9: How? 353 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 8: So? 354 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 11: You know? 355 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 5: So that was my Western mindset, you know, waiting for 356 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: you know, the Christmas tree. Where's the Christmas tree? What 357 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 5: do you mean there's no Christmas tree? Oh oh oh 358 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 5: oh there are these other implements. Okay, so I have 359 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 5: to get candles, Okay, I have to get a map, okay, 360 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 5: the unity cup. Okay, this is this is getting kind 361 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 5: of interesting and good. Okay, I kind of I like it. Okay, 362 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 5: but even more so the principles so on this from 363 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 5: the first statement of each day represents the principle. I said, Okay, 364 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 5: this is okay you this this is this is serious, 365 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 5: like you've got me now. I love this. And I 366 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 5: have to say, my first gift, my first quanza gift 367 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 5: was from my and it was my first coins of 368 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 5: gift was from my husband. It was from the Browder 369 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: foul Boba, Anthony Browder's you know, pivotal book. So shout 370 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 5: out to Anthony Browner for that. 371 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 3: Let me jump in here again. Let me share this 372 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: with you. What you I'm glad you shared the transformation 373 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: because you know, every year people go through what you did, 374 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 3: but you you've done it way back then. Uh myself included, 375 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: because we just all grew up at Christmas, whatever our parents, uh, 376 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 3: the celebrator or the politics, that's what we just fell 377 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: in line. We just thought that was it. And that's 378 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 3: why I asked you that question because I know some 379 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: people are struggling with it because they think and Donta 380 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 3: Kringle will come on and explain that, you know, Quansa 381 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 3: is not an alternative for Christmas, so you can still 382 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 3: celebrate Christmas and still also commemorate Quanza. So I'm glad 383 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: you shared that with us because some people probably sitting 384 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: there figuring out is it one or the other? Am 385 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: I going to miss that? You know, all the Christmas 386 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 3: trappings and many of them don't know they don't know 387 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: that many of those traditions are Satanic and all that, 388 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 3: and you don't want to get rained on anybody's parades. 389 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm not gonna go deep into that. Those 390 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 3: of you've heard Brother Ashua Quation already know the story. 391 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: If you're not, just google his last podcast when he 392 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: was here. You'll get you get story you understand what 393 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: it is, but that shouldn't give you if and I 394 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: can tell that people in religion, if it works for you, 395 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 3: if Islam works for you, Christianity works, you stay with it. 396 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: If that makes you float your butt. 397 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 4: God, go ahead, brother, If I may call, I'd like 398 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 4: to cut in here for a second, because this is 399 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 4: a very important topic. Kwansa is not an alternative to Christmas. 400 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 4: Kwansa actually goes back to our ancient African traditions of 401 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 4: first fruits and the harvest, and the research that was 402 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: done by doctor Karinga and others came up with the 403 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 4: concept to help bring us closer to our roots and culture. However, 404 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 4: it falls at a very serious time. I mentioned about 405 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: the winter solstice. A lot of times people don't understand 406 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: how important that is, which is from the twenty first 407 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 4: through the twenty fourth, and to us, the twenty fifth 408 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 4: historically is the renewing of the sun, not the human son, 409 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: but the Sun's son that gives us life radiance. So 410 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: I just want to clarify the people that because you know, 411 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 4: I came into Quansa and I was still celebrating Christmas, Okay, 412 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: So I want people to understand clearly that this is 413 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: not an alternative to Christmas, but it comes at a 414 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: critical time period where African people have to return back 415 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 4: to their culture. So those people that celebrate Christmas can 416 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 4: also celebrate Kwanza. I just want to clarify that. And 417 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: that's how many of us came more over and closer 418 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 4: to celebrating Quansa. And I go all the way back 419 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: to the nineteen sixties with Kwansa, and I raised my 420 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: children celebrating Kwansa and the first year they still celebrated 421 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 4: Christmas until I learned more about what Christmas was really 422 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 4: all about, and then I kind of wean them off 423 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: of that and got them more involved in the Quanja. 424 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: So I just wanted to clarify that to the people 425 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 4: that are out there that you know, people celebrate Christmas 426 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: and still celebrate Kuwansa also, gotcha. 427 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: So at some point, though you do, you still continue 428 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: to celebrate Christmas or you're just so just quanta this 429 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 3: time of year. 430 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 5: Well, let let me let me be very clear. Let 431 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 5: me be very clear. For me, I did not celebrate 432 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 5: both for me what I in my in terms of me, 433 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 5: my my my own person. I made it clear to 434 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 5: my step my very large family that you know, I'm 435 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 5: celebrating Quantita now I'm no longer celebrating Christmas because of. 436 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 12: X, Y and Z. 437 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 5: And I also gave them the history of Christmas and 438 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 5: why they you know, should you know, take a look, 439 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 5: you know, at themselves and what they truly claim to 440 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 5: be their value system and acts themselves, like are you 441 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 5: sure you still want to celebrate Christmas? You know, and. 442 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: To what they say. It's intriguing because you know, I'm 443 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: never really confronted or trying to convert anybody to celebrate 444 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: quants I just did it. But I know what was 445 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: how did they respond when you when you when you went. 446 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 5: To would go to my fa you know, I would 447 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 5: go to my families and friends. Uh, they're they're you know, 448 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 5: it's ingrained in your spirits, right, you know, traditions are 449 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 5: ingrained in your spirits. And so that's that's slow work 450 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 5: to to to get people to be receptive to something else. 451 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 5: And so I would make it clear like, hey, I'm 452 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: celebrating Quansa. I'm here to you know, at the Christmas celebration. 453 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 5: You know, yes, but you know I would inject a 454 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 5: bit of Quansa, you know, knowledge into every event, because 455 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: how else would anyone know unless you tell them, right, 456 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 5: And so now I can I can say that right now, 457 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 5: I have nieces who grew up watching me do that, 458 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 5: who are telling me that they are celebrating Quansa. Now 459 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 5: they're implementing Kuanza for their children. They're not celebrating Christmas, 460 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 5: they're celebrating Quansas, you know, and they. 461 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 9: Started doing Yeah. 462 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 3: But my question to you, though, my question is when 463 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 3: you told when you told your family members that you 464 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: were celebrating course or you were not going to celebrate course, 465 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 3: what was their reaction? 466 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 5: Well, their first reaction was why not? Why would you 467 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 5: like really, okay, that's this is strange, okay, you know, 468 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 5: but they respected it, you know, because you when you are, 469 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 5: when you marry yourself to what you say you're convicted to, 470 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 5: people respect it. 471 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 12: You know. 472 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 5: And and with time they began to respect it more 473 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 5: because over time they you know, they would I would 474 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 5: get them to come to the Quaniti events also, and 475 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: they would say, oh, this is this is fun. You 476 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 5: know you are actually I don't know, Quanza could be 477 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 5: late to be like this, you know, like what like 478 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 5: what is this? You don't get you don't get that. 479 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 5: You know, with Christmas you get the exact same program 480 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 5: every year, you know, and surrounding the Nativity, and so 481 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 5: you know, not to put that down, but you get 482 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 5: the same programming every year surrounding the same thing. When 483 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 5: we know, you know, those who know anything about the 484 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: socists know that the true, the true Nativity, right, the 485 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 5: true Nativity is about you know, coming through those days 486 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 5: the twenty fourth, the twenties first through the twenty fourth, right, 487 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 5: you are shedding that which no longer serves you, and 488 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 5: the light on the twenty fourth, the light is rising 489 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 5: within you. You are who is being reborn. 490 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 8: You are. 491 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: Let me let me jump in here and ask brother 492 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: Saint God question too, because you know, brother Saint God, 493 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: what about the children? Because I hear this from folks 494 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: who celebrate Quanta and but they always celebrate Christmas as well. 495 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: They say, oh, it's just for the children. It's for 496 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 3: the children because the children expected because the peer pressure 497 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: it with their friends, so they expect the Christmas tree 498 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. So they acquiesced to 499 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: the chill. They wanted the chilling to fe be happy 500 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: and don't really want to push quans on them call. 501 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 4: I had no problem. When you when you return to 502 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 4: your African tradition, some things start to happen. I had 503 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 4: no problem finding out the truth about so called Christmas. 504 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: When I did find the truth out, I began to 505 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 4: tell the truth to my children. And one of the 506 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 4: things my children said, you know, because my old oldest 507 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 4: daughter Nadira went to Toto Nation House, and one of 508 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 4: the things that they always shared with me, I like 509 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: Kuonsa because it's seven days, not one day, and so 510 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 4: that's that's a big plus. But not only that, all 511 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 4: those seven days were were were relicated around basic principles 512 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 4: and family. So as they got used to that, they 513 00:29:54,400 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 4: preferred Kwanza over the holiday Christmas. And then they learned learned, 514 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: like I learned what that is all about. And so 515 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 4: I actually told them that the twenty fifth career was 516 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 4: born on the twenty fifth, not necessarily who you've been told. 517 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 4: So I told them the truth. And when they learned 518 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 4: the truth, they moved on. So consequently they've grown now 519 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: and they passed that on to their children. But it 520 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: took renewing ourselves as African people, because everybody likes to 521 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: come together with family and have a good time. But 522 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 4: these so called holidays that Arugu or the European world 523 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 4: had put on us, we found out all false holidays 524 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 4: and they represent something different than what it appears they represent. 525 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: And so you mentioned about ashra kways and the history 526 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: is out there. But the point about it is Kwansa 527 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: was a longer time period. It was a more African 528 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: cultural celebration and a good time to come together. And 529 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 4: you learn from it and got to you got to party, 530 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 4: to dance, and you know, you had to wean the 531 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 4: young youth father thinking they're supposed to get gifts from 532 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 4: some some fantasy spot. You know, I told my children 533 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 4: straight up when I when I when I raised them 534 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: when they were celebrating Christmas, your gifts are coming from 535 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: our labor, from what we're doing. But once they started 536 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 4: celebrating Kwanza, we used to figure out a way how 537 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 4: to give them gifts that are more important, like books. 538 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 4: And I heard of medical say how important it was 539 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 4: with her getting the gift of Tony Browner. These are 540 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 4: gifts to help renew your spirit. So I don't want 541 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 4: to take too much more time because I know me 542 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 4: here for a couple of hours, but it's a lot 543 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 4: more than I'd like us to cover in terms of 544 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: the actual specifics around uh celebrations and renewing of Quansa, 545 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 4: because the reality is now, I've been dealing with Kwansa 546 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: for a long time, and once you learn the energy 547 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 4: about the winter solstice and then Kwansa, why would you 548 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 4: celebrate a pagan or false holiday. But some of our people, 549 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 4: you have to bring them around, and they'll come around 550 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 4: on their own when they see the light, just like 551 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 4: you do when you're raising your consciousness and getting back 552 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: to your aflicanity. 553 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: All right, hold that thought right there at twenty six 554 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 3: minutes away from the top of the family A brother 555 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: Saint God's got a panel here discussing Quanta. What are 556 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: your thoughts? Eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six. 557 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 3: Sister Atilla has not said anything so far, being quiet, 558 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 3: Sister a Ta, let's go to you your thoughts so far? 559 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 6: With the conversation you've heard, I'm sure good morning, good morning, 560 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 6: good morning, And I would like to take just a 561 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 6: quick moment to introduce myself. I too, am a DC native. 562 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 6: I currently serve as an assistant principle in a very 563 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 6: highness middle school I'm also the creator of hood Smart. 564 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 6: At Bobiston Gore shared thank you, and also the creator 565 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 6: of the Illuminates Your Black Brilliance Awards, which is an 566 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 6: extension of the Hood Smart initiative that celebrates the brilliance 567 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 6: and resilience of our youth and so our And when 568 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 6: I say our, I've partnered with my sister Awa and 569 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 6: some know her as Rohnda and she'll join us hopefully 570 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 6: a little bit later in Boba Jua. And there's so 571 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 6: many connecting threats here. We too came together as a 572 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 6: result of Nation House, which Boba spoke about. Our children 573 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 6: attended Nation House, which again is an African independent school 574 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 6: here in the district of Columbia, and so our institutions, 575 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 6: whether it's Nation House, the u n I, a Adosti 576 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 6: conquerrand there's so many of our grassroots organizations here that 577 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 6: really grounded us. And so I really want to share 578 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 6: that now we see generations of African people here who 579 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 6: have this level of clarity and who continues to carry 580 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 6: the torch. And so when we hear from the Holly 581 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 6: Girls a little bit later, that's the next generation who 582 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 6: are are going to pick up the mansho and do 583 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 6: the work. My daughter Nia Lacy the next generation who's 584 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 6: going to do the work. And so I'm really proud 585 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 6: of what we have been able to produce here in 586 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 6: the DMD because we had who are now our elders 587 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 6: who really did that work to raise the consciousness of 588 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 6: their children and now their children's children, and so I'm 589 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 6: really really proud about that. And so we come together 590 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 6: and this year we are celebrating Nia, which means purpose. 591 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 6: And so our Kuonza program is a little interesting because 592 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 6: we tend to attract young people and families who are 593 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 6: being introduced. 594 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 5: To Kwanta for the first time. 595 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 6: And what we've learned is that is that experience that 596 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 6: it ignites their awareness and cultural consciousness, which is the 597 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 6: whole point, right, and so we are super excited. Our 598 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 6: Quanza program will happen on Nia Nights, which is December thirtieth, 599 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 6: at the Highestville here for those of their local bus 600 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 6: boys and poets, and it's a celebration. We have a 601 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 6: really good time, and it's also partly an extension of 602 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 6: our Illuminates Your Black Brilliance Award ceremony, which brings together 603 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 6: hundreds of young people every year and we celebrate the 604 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 6: brilliance and resilience of young people. Because it's African people, 605 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 6: we understand the importance of our ancestors, and so we 606 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 6: offer awards, but that are in the spirit of an 607 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 6: ancestor and interesting enough, going back to it's just the. 608 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 3: Hold that thought right now, I let you finish in 609 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 3: the moment because we are to step aside and get 610 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 3: caught up with the latest news. Family just waking up 611 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 3: is twenty three minutes away from the top of that that. 612 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 3: It's just the two of the brother semo Baia is 613 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: a similar panel of the celebrating folks. So celebrating quansa. 614 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: Whant they find out in your when you started celebrating quansa? 615 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 3: If you do celebrate quansa. If you don't, let us know. 616 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 3: Reach out to us at eight hundred four or five 617 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 3: zero seventy eighth seventy six and we take your phone 618 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 3: calls after the news. 619 00:35:51,760 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 13: It's next. 620 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 14: Fourteen fifty wol. 621 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 11: Good morning, folks. I'm Earl Kirk. Here's the latest from 622 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 11: newswe dot com. The National Environmental Education Foundation says the 623 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 11: cost of Christmas is bigger than retail. 624 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 15: The holiday generates about twenty five million tons of garbage 625 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 15: in the US and that is clogging our landfills. It's 626 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 15: packaging boxes, wrapping paper, about thirty eight thousand miles of 627 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 15: discarded ribbon along with fifteen million trees. There are programs 628 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 15: to help. The tree can be mulched as long as 629 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 15: you strip it of decorations. If you can scrunch wrapping paper, 630 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 15: it can be recycled, and food waste should be tossed 631 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 15: in the green bin. I'm Bretan. 632 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 11: Police are trying to figure out what happened to a 633 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 11: man found dead on the Fairfax County Parkway. Someone spatted 634 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 11: the man's body in the median near Old Plains Road 635 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 11: around nine to forty five Tuesday. Warring coups found signs 636 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 11: of trauma on the man's body, but they don't know 637 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 11: if he was hit by a vehicle. They're asking anyone 638 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 11: with info to give them a call. The man arrested 639 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 11: for shooting two West Virginia National Guard members in DC 640 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 11: is now facing federal charges. The twenty nine year old 641 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 11: is accused of killing specialist Sarah Beckstrom and badly wounding 642 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 11: staff Sergeant Andrew Wolf the day before Thanksgiving. The suspect 643 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 11: pleaded not guilty to local murder, assault and weapons charges 644 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 11: earlier this month, but now he's facing two federal charges 645 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 11: of transporting firearms between states. The suspect is next to 646 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 11: in court in January. Students in Montgomery County schools are 647 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 11: having their lunch debts erased thanks to a big donation. 648 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 11: Dark Cars has donated two hundred thirty thousand dollars to 649 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 11: pay down the lunch debt of families who receive reduced 650 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 11: price meals. Santo will be gliding into Old Town, Alexandria 651 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 11: today on a pair of water skis. The fortieth annual 652 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 11: Waterskiing Santa Show is today at one at the Old 653 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 11: Town Waterfront. The event raises money for the Lake of 654 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 11: the Woods Adaptive Water Sports Foundation, a group that helps veterans, 655 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 11: adults and kids with disabilities. Hornets Down the Wizards one 656 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 11: twenty six, one o nine. I'm Earl Kirk. When you're 657 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,959 Speaker 11: looking for news for Black America, go to newswe dot 658 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 11: com dot com. 659 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 10: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show. 660 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 3: And Grand Rising Family. Thanks for starting your Thursday with us. 661 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 3: This is Wednesday. Actually all the days of mixed up 662 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 3: that happens on the holiday. You guys don't understand that 663 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 3: sixteen minutes away from the top of the are though, 664 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 3: brother as Sango by As assembled a panel to discuss 665 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 3: Kwansa and how they celebrate Quanta and what are they 666 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 3: doing this year for Kwansa. You want to join us 667 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 3: and tell us what you're doing for Kwanta when you 668 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 3: first found out about Quansa and why you celebrate Quanja. 669 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 3: You can reach us at eight hundred four or five 670 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 3: zero seventy eight seventy six before we go back to them, though, 671 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 3: let me just remind you. Coming up later this morning, 672 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 3: you're going to speak with Kwanza creator Dotr Milana Krenga, 673 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 3: and tomorrow clinical psychologist doctor Jeremy Fox is going to 674 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: be here as well. So if you are in the DMV, 675 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 3: make sure you keep you ready a lot to fourteen 676 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: fifty w L if you're in Baltimore or on ten 677 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 3: ten WLB. For we left were speaking with Sister Ataa. 678 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 3: So Sister Atayl, I'll let you finish your thought, then 679 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 3: let's talk to the young ladies. 680 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 6: Yes, so I think I kind of paused where I 681 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 6: was showing the thread between what Boba Olbi is Sister 682 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 6: Dominica has been doing in their foundation where we are today, 683 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 6: and so I would speaking to the different experiences that 684 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 6: folks who join us will have, and one of those 685 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 6: experiences is that they will meet our student Award recipients 686 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 6: for the fifth annual Elimination of Black Brilliance Award. And 687 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 6: what's really unique about our awards program is that each 688 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 6: award is presented in the spirit of an ancestor, and 689 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 6: along with the Youth Awardy, we also have a living legend. 690 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 6: And I wanted to speak to the Excellence and Education Award, 691 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 6: which was presented in the spirits of Baba Ajay, who 692 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 6: was a co founder of a Nation House African independent school, 693 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 6: which has been spoke about a lot so far. This morning, 694 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 6: my daughter attending Nation House O bespoke to attending Nation House, 695 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 6: and so it's just a full circle. And I'm really 696 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 6: excited again that we get to now pass down this 697 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 6: information and for those who come to and join our 698 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 6: excuse me quanta program, who is really learning this information 699 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 6: for the first time right to the next generation. But 700 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 6: I want to go back to the Holly Girls because 701 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 6: I want to make a really important point, because the 702 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 6: whole point of Hood's marked, the whole point of the 703 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 6: Illumination Black Brilliance Awards. The whole point of us celebrating 704 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 6: Kwansa in this way is to really raise the consciousness 705 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 6: of our young people. And so I really want the 706 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 6: listeners to understand what happens when we as African people 707 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 6: make a conscious decision, when we're very deliberate around how 708 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 6: we raise our children and what they are supposed to, 709 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 6: especially when it comes to African culture. Just being really 710 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 6: clear around who we are as African people, because the 711 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 6: entire point is to raise the consciousness right of our children. 712 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 6: But when you have an opportunity to interact with the 713 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 6: Holly Girls, you are going to understand why. 714 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 4: This is important. 715 00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 6: You're going to through the conversations here, the gracefulness, right repect, 716 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 6: the cultural groundedness that they had, and the fact that 717 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 6: as young people they are producing which I know their 718 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 6: parents are want to speak more to, but this is 719 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 6: really important to me. They are producing music, our creativity 720 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 6: that uplifts our people in our community extensies. They're positive, 721 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 6: high vibrational messages and that is the entire point. And 722 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,959 Speaker 6: that is the entire point, And so I really want 723 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 6: us as we move into quantities and as we're moving 724 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 6: through the winsor sosis to really keep that in mind, 725 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 6: because there is an absolute force that has I'm not 726 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 6: even going to say trying, that has taken over the 727 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 6: spirit and the soul of our children. And so those 728 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 6: of us who have been fortunate enough to be raised 729 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 6: in conscious communities or who weren't introduced to the conscious 730 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 6: community until we became adults, it doesn't matter. We have 731 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 6: a responsibility to do this work, and we have a 732 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 6: greater responsibility to make sure that our young people right 733 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 6: are interacting with us in the community and the culture 734 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 6: in a way that raises their vibrations. And so I 735 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 6: can say definitively that that is the work that we 736 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 6: are all doing that are here on this call. We 737 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 6: are working for the next generation because it's really really important. 738 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 6: In Kwanza it's a great. 739 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 5: Time to do that. 740 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 6: And no, it's not an alternative to Christmas or any 741 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 6: other religious holiday, because it's not a religious holiday. It's 742 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 6: Williams in the. 743 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 10: Lissence of times. 744 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 3: Just tell you, let's let's bring these young ladies grand 745 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 3: rising sisters, and please introduce yourself when you speak, and 746 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 3: tell us when you first heard about Kwanta. Who's wont 747 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 3: to speak first. 748 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 5: Hello, can you will hear me? 749 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 750 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 5: Your name, Hi, my name is Kaya Holly. 751 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 6: Hello, my name is Holly. Hello, my name is Arianna Holly. 752 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 6: And my name is Suna for Holly. 753 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 3: Oh wow, you got four other there. I didn't know 754 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 3: he had so many young ladies on their brother, but 755 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 3: you did something magnificent here produced for four young ladies. 756 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 7: I give all the credit to my wife. 757 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 3: That's amazing because you know what they say that the 758 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 3: sons will always go to the wife, but the daughters 759 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 3: always stay with with the fathers. So I just I 760 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 3: know you know that already women rule, but let me 761 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 3: let me so young ladies. Let me talk to you 762 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 3: for these young ladies. So when you speak, just mentioned 763 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 3: your names. And because because I thought it was too 764 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 3: on the see on the line, it's more of you. 765 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:41,479 Speaker 3: But that's great. 766 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 12: Uh. 767 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 3: When did you guys first hear about quantat and how 768 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 3: did how did we and each one of you can tell, 769 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 3: you know, take a turn and explain. How did you 770 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 3: know deal with Quanta? And how did you explain to 771 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 3: your friends who were still celebrating Christmas? You know that 772 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 3: you celebrate Quanta. How did you guys stay with that? 773 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 3: Who wants to go first. 774 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 5: I don't mind going first. 775 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 12: Ti. 776 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 5: My name is Taya Okay, so first hearing about Kwanda, 777 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 5: I don't think I can honestly say a definitive date 778 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 5: because growing up in my household, we never celebrated Christmas, 779 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 5: so it was just Kwanza from the beginning period. And 780 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 5: in our family growing up, we were the only family 781 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 5: amongst any other immediate family that celebrated Quanta period. So 782 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 5: I was aware of Christmas in the facts that the 783 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 5: rest of my cousins and you know, aunts and uncles 784 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 5: and everyone else and grandparents all celebrated Christmas. But I 785 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 5: just also think the way we were so entrenched in it, 786 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 5: in the fact that our parents, you know, they did 787 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,760 Speaker 5: Quanta events, and they brought us to all the events. 788 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 5: We were at Emojaite, we were at Oujaman night, we 789 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 5: were at Kuchishaka Leia and night, we were at all 790 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 5: all of the events. I did not believe there was 791 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 5: a holiday better than Kwanza, honestly. And I have to 792 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 5: agree with Baba Singor Bay earlier when he said that 793 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 5: his children said, well Quanta has seven days. You know, 794 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 5: I felt the same way. I was like, I was 795 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 5: like Christmas is only one day, like it comes and 796 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 5: it's gone and then it's over and that's it, you know. 797 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 5: But I get to go to events every night. I 798 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 5: was like my parents, they and them, and like my godmoms, 799 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 5: my god fathers, they all they throw a Kwanza event, 800 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 5: you know, and it's music and it's dancing and you know, 801 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 5: and it's it's lively, you know, and it made me 802 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 5: feel proud and excited, like I couldn't wait for the 803 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 5: holidays every year, and I just I felt like it 804 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,919 Speaker 5: was better, you know, I said, this is more fun, 805 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 5: this is more interactive, and even in terms of the 806 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 5: gifting process, because yes, it's not the same in terms 807 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 5: of Christmas, where you know, the parents are they're just 808 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 5: buying any and everything that the children want. Its purely 809 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 5: just for making sure they're satisfied with some material item. 810 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 5: And it's not to say that my parents didn't buy 811 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,720 Speaker 5: us gifts. They they would they would get us gifts. 812 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 5: But one of the main things that no matter what, 813 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 5: every year, it was made very very clear that it's 814 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 5: important to also give something from the heart. So we 815 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 5: looked forward to doing that. We would make things with 816 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 5: our own two hands, whether that was here, I'm going 817 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 5: to go create an art piece for you, you know, or 818 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 5: I'm going to write this poem down or letter to you, 819 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 5: or I'm going to make you some jewelry or you 820 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 5: know anything. It's just you had to do something from 821 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 5: the heart. You know, you had to do something from 822 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 5: the heart. One one of the gifts always had. 823 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 7: To be. 824 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 3: Somebody Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead, it's just no problem. 825 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 5: But yeah, you had to do something from the heart. 826 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 5: You also had to give something that, yeah. 827 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 3: Somebody please if you're not speaking, because we're getting the 828 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 3: feedback here, so go ahead, okay. 829 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you had to give something from the heart, 830 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 5: and you also had to give something that was knowledge 831 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 5: based always, you know. And for us, we looked forward 832 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 5: to those gifts just as much as we were looking 833 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 5: forward to anything else. And a lot of the times, 834 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 5: the things my parents got us something that when they 835 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 5: did give us gifts, it was like something that had 836 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 5: to do with our true interests for our lives. Like 837 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 5: we're artists from music artists, so they always made sure 838 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 5: they got us something that would like in terms of 839 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 5: like regular material items, it would be something that also 840 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 5: with enriched the things that we really wanted to do 841 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 5: with our lives. You know this question though that makes sense. 842 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me ask you. There's a question six minutes 843 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 3: away from the top of the are did your friends, 844 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 3: your peer groups, and your families who don't celebrate quantity? 845 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 3: They kind of look at you like you was like 846 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 3: you kind of strange, like the kind of strange they 847 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 3: almost celebrate Christmas? So how do you deal with that? 848 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 5: Of course, I well, I mean I grew up in 849 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 5: a very tight knit a Pan African community. So a 850 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 5: lot of my friends that I went to school with 851 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 5: were also going to Pan African school grew up in 852 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 5: Pan Afcan schools, so they knew like the people that 853 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 5: I really grew up with. But as me and my 854 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 5: older sister especially started going to like public schools like 855 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 5: all of those friends, they thought we were weird. 856 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 6: They were like, y'all don't celebrate Christmas. 857 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,439 Speaker 5: And but again, I think I just also was raised 858 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 5: with such a I don't want to say it was almost. 859 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 3: Okay, somebody's got their phone over a game. So because 860 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 3: we're getting feedback, you guys, you gotta gotta be at 861 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 3: your phone because it's not it's not gonna work out 862 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 3: well to each other. 863 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah. 864 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 3: We're gonna may have to drop some lives because it's 865 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,479 Speaker 3: it's not coming over well on the air. Five away 866 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 3: from the top there, I'll tell you what can we 867 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 3: step away go to the commercials there earlier and then 868 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 3: we can figure this out. Eight hundred four five zero 869 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 3: seventy eight seventy six. We've got to check the traffic 870 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 3: and weather not different cities. Family, We got a panel, 871 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 3: got a bunch of folks on us, and we're getting 872 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 3: some feedback here with the phones where everybody being so 873 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 3: close together giving us this stories about Quanta. Have they 874 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 3: started celebrate Kwansa, what it was like for them, how 875 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 3: their family dealt with it, and what are they doing 876 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 3: for Kwansa twenty twenty five. You two can join this 877 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 3: conversation if you can get in it. Eight hundred four 878 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 3: five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll take your phone 879 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,760 Speaker 3: calls after the trafficking weather update that's next. 880 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 16: M Good morning to you on this Christmas Eve, and 881 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 16: of looks like we've got a couple of situations outside. 882 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 16: We start off in Northern Va and a messy accident 883 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 16: that we actually watching here on sixty six eastbound between 884 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 16: Prince William Parkway and looks like Sutley Road. The two 885 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 16: right lanes are actually blocked out there. Traffic is a mess. 886 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 16: Also another accident here are sixty six express lanes here eastbound. 887 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 17: Moving over toward Sutley Road. 888 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,240 Speaker 16: Looks like the left lane is blocked here and traffic 889 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 16: is a little slow as you approach out in Maryland. 890 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 16: Looks like the Ottle Loop of the belt Where is the 891 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 16: scene of an accident here on the Capitol Beltway. And 892 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 16: this is just after Georgia Avenue. Moved to the right. 893 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,280 Speaker 16: Show that traffic is actually back there from University Boulevard. 894 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 17: There's debris across. 895 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 16: All lanes and so please be careful as you move 896 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,840 Speaker 16: around this morning. Taking a look at your forecast for 897 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 16: this Christmas Eve, and looks like sunny today and huis 898 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 16: in the little fifties for tonight mostly cloudy and a 899 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 16: slight chance of rain after midnight and Lowe's in the 900 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 16: mid thirties. 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This is the twenty fourth day of December. 916 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 3: Brother Saying Goo by a Gavia. Do you've heard Brother 917 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 3: Saying Go on this program several times? Well, he's assembled 918 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 3: a panel here to talk about Quanta and getting their 919 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 3: responses when they first started recognizing Kwansa having to go, 920 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 3: their friends and their families react because some folks, you know, 921 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 3: most of us, I would dare to say, did not 922 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 3: start out. Many of us, the young people did, but 923 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 3: some of us hold the cats. We you know, observe Christmas. 924 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 3: Many of us still do. And as we've indicated from 925 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 3: the panel that there's nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas. You 926 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 3: can celebrate Christmas and also Quanta as well. And for 927 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 3: the folks who are traveling now, I always gotta tell 928 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,280 Speaker 3: folks are traveling today, please download one of our apps 929 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 3: from one of our stations and then take us with 930 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 3: you for the ride. And if you can get in, 931 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 3: just give us a call and want to hear from 932 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,720 Speaker 3: you how you celebrate Quanta. What are you doing for quansa? 933 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 3: A telephone numbers told Free Source of Worldwide. It's eight 934 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 3: hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six. So 935 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 3: let's go back to one of the Holly sisters now, 936 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 3: were telling us about her thoughts. So when her friends, well, 937 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 3: they thought about her. They thought it a little strangely 938 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,280 Speaker 3: she celebrated Kwanza, well, they were celebrating Christmas. 939 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 5: Yes again, my name is Taya Maati kumb Holly of 940 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 5: the Holly Girls. 941 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 9: And yeah, as I was. 942 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 5: Well, I left off my friend once I started going 943 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 5: to once I started going to public school, my friends 944 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 5: that I made there, they definitely thought me and my 945 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 5: older sister at the time, they thought it was strange. 946 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 5: They thought it was very strange. It was unheard of. 947 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 5: It was not the norm for anyone that we went 948 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 5: that we knew because we were going to Susar Chavez, 949 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 5: their Parkside campus off Minnesota Avenue, off Kenilworth Avenue. So 950 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 5: they over on that side, they didn't know nothing about 951 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 5: Kwanza and they thought it was strange that we didn't 952 00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 5: celebrate Christmas. 953 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 9: Well, they were like, no regular. 954 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:05,760 Speaker 5: Christmas gifts, no tree, you know, none of those classic things, 955 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 5: you know. We weren't going to church, you know, or 956 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 5: any of those things. 957 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 3: You know, And that's interesting. I'll tell you what. In 958 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 3: the instance of time, though, let's move on to one 959 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 3: of the other sisters, because you mentioned something interesting. You 960 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 3: just mentioned we weren't going to church. So let's talk 961 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 3: to another one of your sisters. Just mentioned your name 962 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 3: and respond to the question that I'm going to post 963 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 3: to you right now, because still say, say, if you 964 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 3: guys didn't go to church, so obviously some of your 965 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 3: friends who look like, oh that you know, they're kind 966 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 3: of strange. How long did did you internalize that or 967 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 3: did you did you wish to celebrate Christmas? Because you know, 968 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 3: they told you all this stuff about Christmas. So let's 969 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,240 Speaker 3: let's talk to another sister. 970 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:51,240 Speaker 6: Hello, my name is Statistic. You Samowi Holly the Holly Girls, 971 00:56:51,600 --> 00:57:03,720 Speaker 6: And honestly, I did not personally feel weird, orn't bad 972 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 6: about the fact that we didn't celebrate Christmas or that 973 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 6: we you know, we were doing something different, and as 974 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 6: time went on, our friends became interested. It was something 975 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 6: that we did every year. It was something that it 976 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 6: wasn't just me and my family. As you Washington, DC 977 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 6: has a very strong Pan African community, right, So the 978 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 6: friends who I made in high school and middle school 979 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 6: who are not a part of that community, we brought 980 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 6: the men. We said, hey, this is what we're doing 981 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 6: over here. And as time went along they became a 982 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 6: part of that community as well. They enjoyed it. 983 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 5: They wanted to be engaged in the in the Quanta. 984 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 6: Programs or attend in that way. So yes, I hope 985 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 6: I answered that properly. 986 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's speak to another one Holly Girls as well. 987 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 3: Now what do you like? This runs some questions for you. 988 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 3: What do you like most about Quanta? 989 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 6: Okay, my name is Arianna Strings of the Holly Girls. 990 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 6: Oh Man to two is what I like most about Quanta? 991 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 6: Would be probably, oh, a very difficult question to answer, 992 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 6: but let me just try. Well, for starters, growing up also, 993 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 6: just like my other sisters, I've been doing this my 994 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 6: entire life, so spinning it with family, you know what, 995 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 6: I would just gonna sound cliche, but sitting it with 996 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 6: family is my favorite part of Quanta. I mean, you know, 997 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 6: we had all the seven days of going out to 998 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 6: different events and seeing other friends in the community, you know, 999 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 6: learning a lot about history, and it was wonderful, you know, 1000 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 6: just like implementing the values. But honestly that I think 1001 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 6: it's the very it's the very last day of Quanta 1002 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 6: that you're supposed to spend with family exchange gifts or whatever. 1003 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 6: Growing up, that was my favorite day because well I've 1004 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 6: always been very close with my family, but that always 1005 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 6: felt was so nice because us will meet. Growing up, 1006 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 6: me my sisters would spend that day making our handmade gifts. 1007 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 6: We would draw photos, or I would create things out 1008 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 6: of legos, or or I would make things out of 1009 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,480 Speaker 6: like you know, construction paper or whatever. I would do 1010 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 6: those types of things, and it was always really fun 1011 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 6: when I would then exchange those handmade gifts with my family. 1012 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 6: That last day of quantas like, was always my favorite part. 1013 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 3: Got you six after the top of our family, we 1014 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 3: guessed that some of the Holly girls, my brother Saning 1015 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 3: Goo Baya's assemblar panel of talk to us about Quanta, 1016 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 3: how they celebrate Quansa when they first heard about Quansa. 1017 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 3: Let's speak to another one of the Holly systems again. 1018 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 3: A question for you is the uh do you think 1019 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 3: because you guys seem like a very tight knit family, 1020 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 3: do you think you could say you'd have the same 1021 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 3: zest for Quanta if you fire will your same energy 1022 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 3: for Kwansa if your family was not a tight ni 1023 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 3: because not all families are tight nameing you guys have 1024 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 3: something special. Let me just tell you right now. We 1025 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 3: got fami. These people not even speaking to each other, 1026 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about, and the order you 1027 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 3: only see each other. You know that at funerals or holidays. 1028 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 3: So do you think if you, if you guys were 1029 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 3: not so closely, you could still appreciate Quansa. 1030 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 6: Yes, Hi, it's just me speaking my assasim blest and 1031 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,439 Speaker 6: after me laing Holly, I just go by Sene for Holly. 1032 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 5: Usually, but honestly, it's specifically. 1033 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 6: Growing up in the community that we grew up in, 1034 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 6: but also with my family. If we weren't as tight 1035 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 6: knit I really don't think we would kwans would be 1036 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 6: what it is in our family because of the fact 1037 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,919 Speaker 6: that I feel like the whole, you know, foundation of 1038 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 6: Quanta is genuinely bringing community and bringing people together as 1039 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 6: a whole, and I feel like if that piece was missing, 1040 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 6: it would be hard. I mean, especially, you know, growing 1041 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 6: up in DC and having that community and then coming 1042 01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 6: to California and moving to California first three years. 1043 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 5: Were a little hard because of. 1044 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,440 Speaker 6: The fact that we weren't in DC anymore, and you know, 1045 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 6: it's Quansa is everywhere in DC and in California. It's 1046 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 6: a Durrassic difference, you know, and especially meeting people and 1047 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 6: then meeting friends and and a lot of them one 1048 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 6: weren't even as connected with their families as I am 1049 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 6: with mine, and tow they celebrated Christmas, so they were 1050 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 6: looking at me sideways, you know. But I also, I 1051 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 6: don't know, I think my I was fortunate enough to 1052 01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 6: be raised and and such a with such a strong 1053 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:47,800 Speaker 6: foundation within our family, and it's it's continuously enlightening and 1054 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 6: continuously uplifting, and we honestly kind of hold each other 1055 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 6: in a way, and I think that it would be 1056 01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 6: it would be harder, a lot harder to really be 1057 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 6: in that as much as we are if that was missing. 1058 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 6: But I will say for people that don't have such 1059 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 6: a strong foundation within family or community or whatever, like, 1060 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 6: we are always here and you know, and the community 1061 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 6: is always here. And you know that's why I'm very 1062 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 6: big on chosen family. Not every family is blood, you 1063 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 6: know what I mean. And that's okay. And you know, 1064 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 6: especially when you. 1065 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 19: Need to. 1066 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 6: Need that that that certain bond, it's so important. It's 1067 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 6: so important, and that support system is so important and 1068 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 6: it'll always be there in Kwanza. And I think that's 1069 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 6: something that I'll always admire. 1070 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well said, I thank you for sharing that with us. 1071 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 4: Go ahead, by the single. I just want to chime 1072 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 4: in here and just just share a little bit about 1073 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 4: especially family. It's important. 1074 01:02:58,960 --> 01:02:59,120 Speaker 5: Uh. 1075 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 4: The U and I a ACL has been a host 1076 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 4: in NIA and as you said, as I told you earlier, 1077 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 4: that many NEA knights and I'll mention them, but I 1078 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 4: just want to let people know before we go back 1079 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 4: to Sister I Tia and talk a little more about 1080 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 4: other events on NIA Nite. Your listeners are very familiar 1081 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 4: with the BACH the coalition that we're in the Bethesda 1082 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 4: African Cemetery Coalition. So this year again like last year, 1083 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 4: we will be at Macedonia Baptist Church at fifty one 1084 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 4: to nineteen River Road, Bethesda, Maryland on that side of 1085 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 4: the d C on the thirtieth from six pm to 1086 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 4: nine pm. And every year we honor ancestors, especially ancestors, 1087 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 4: but we honor elders and these awards this year and 1088 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be quick so we can move forward. 1089 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,959 Speaker 4: De Garvey twenty twenty five NEA Awards go to none 1090 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 4: other than Brother Tiari Cousel And for those that don't 1091 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 4: know Tiari causel they should know. He's one of the 1092 01:03:55,640 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 4: major African centered martial artists worldwide to deal with Koopie, 1093 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,920 Speaker 4: Ghana and Gumi. And then we also have Sister Oza 1094 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 4: Zinger who is a very very positive sister who's in 1095 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 4: many many institutions, but particularly a Doossi the African Dosboro 1096 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 4: Ancestral Commemoration. And then we also honoring Kenneth Carroll who 1097 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 4: is one of the most powerful poet and spoken word 1098 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 4: artists of the DC area. And then we also are 1099 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 4: honoring a brother from the AA p r P who 1100 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 4: goes all the way back with us no longer lives 1101 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 4: in DC. Brother Bambozi, who's a very powerful brother, worked 1102 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 4: with Kwame Terray. Then we also honoring sister Yuri Hudgens, 1103 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 4: who is very very powerful sister, also one of the 1104 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 4: founding sisters of Adossi and involved with Kacoran and a 1105 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 4: whole litany of things. We're also honoring Evergreen Productions, which 1106 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 4: is a poet a spoken word group. And then we're 1107 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 4: also honoring brother Wayne Young, who does a magazine here 1108 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 4: in the DC area. Many people may know of him. 1109 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 4: And the last two Mary Gria, sister Maysa Gara, who 1110 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 4: knows that lives in the DC area, but one of 1111 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 4: the most creative artists of all time, did a lot 1112 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 4: of images for Odossi and many many groups. We're honoring her. 1113 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 4: And then last we're honoring brother Keith Easton, another powerful brother. 1114 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 4: So I wanted to shout them out because every year 1115 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 4: we've given about fifty to sixty seventy awards over the 1116 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 4: last several years, and we like to honor people and 1117 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 4: give them flowers while they're hear All of these people 1118 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 4: are instrumental in the Pan African cultural community of Washington, 1119 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 4: d C. So I want to let people know. Also 1120 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 4: Reveini to Bayo and Sister Marsha out of Bayo, who 1121 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 4: has been fighting to address the issue of the cemetery 1122 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 4: in Bethesda that has been desecrated, and we don't play. 1123 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 4: When you desecrate our ancestors, we don't play. You're desecrating 1124 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 4: us little girls who are buried in that cemetery. So 1125 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 4: call your listeners, are very familiar with them. That's where 1126 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 4: we're hosting our Quansa this year. They'll be candle lighting, 1127 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 4: they'll be a feast, they'll be Outstanding Community Service Awards. 1128 01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 4: Everygreen Production Group perform African drumming, sin the Marsha Gozi 1129 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 4: Coleman out of Bayo and Reverend out of Bayo and 1130 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 4: Baba Mosi the President. We will be doing that. So 1131 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 4: I've made on give up information on how you can 1132 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,240 Speaker 4: contact us. But I'm gonna stop right there because I 1133 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 4: love hearing from my young people. Because if we we're 1134 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 4: not for our ancestors, not for our elders, staying the course, 1135 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 4: focusing on returning to our traditional greatness, the youth who 1136 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 4: are our not just our future, they are our president. 1137 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 4: And Sister Atiya who hopefully we're going to go back 1138 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 4: to now. Also had some other special guests coming on 1139 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,440 Speaker 4: and I want to get everybody opportunity because this is 1140 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 4: a family affair, not just tight knit families, but extended 1141 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 4: family because our things stretch all the way to sierle On, Kenya, Gambia, Ghana, Nigeria, Tanzania, 1142 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 4: a Zania, South Africa where they all will be doing Kwansa. 1143 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 4: So Kwanza is not American holiday. It's an African holiday 1144 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 4: for all Africans around the world. Up right there, call, 1145 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,920 Speaker 4: and let's listen to some of our young brothers. 1146 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, brother brother saying fourteen After that time, do we 1147 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 3: get all the Holly girls out first? 1148 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,400 Speaker 4: I think you heard from all four of them. I'm 1149 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 4: not sure. If not, you know, they can come on back. 1150 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 3: Then. 1151 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 6: Hello, Yes you did speak to all four of us. 1152 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 6: But we will also have the opportunity to just talk 1153 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 6: about do Jima joint when that time is appropriate. 1154 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 5: Please let us to know. 1155 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 4: Well you go ahead, now, go ahead now, and then 1156 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 4: we'll go Tia and talk about Nea Knight that she's 1157 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 4: hosting bringing in new people. See see call. You have 1158 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 4: to understand it's a consistency. Also, there's a Nea program 1159 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 4: being held in Baltimore at ever at Everyone's Place, where 1160 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 4: Tony Browner will be there on NIA Knight. Also last 1161 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,439 Speaker 4: but not least, uh the Everlasting Life. We'll also host 1162 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 4: the NIA program hosted by Ay. So there's plenty of 1163 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 4: places for people to go to celebrate not only Nia Knight, 1164 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 4: but every night there's a children party. Hopefully we'll get 1165 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 4: into some of that. And I know you got doctor 1166 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 4: Karinga coming on. He can address some of the critical 1167 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 4: issues that we're talking about around christmasson Kwanza, et cetera. 1168 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 4: But anyway, let's let's let's move forward. If we can 1169 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,759 Speaker 4: call to a tear all right in your thoughts. 1170 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,600 Speaker 7: All we h Before the Holly Girls mentioned Ujima, I 1171 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 7: just want to just give him a little back history 1172 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 7: really quick of their event based on the event that 1173 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 7: we've been doing. My wife and I a f a 1174 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 7: Menekai pepsuit a Fee Soul and friends House of Ryan 1175 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,799 Speaker 7: friends have been doing and originally we called a twenty 1176 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 7: something collective, have been doing a Quanzi event Ujima Knight 1177 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 7: for thirty plus years every Ujima Knight, and as young people, 1178 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 7: we wanted to do something that was a little different 1179 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,760 Speaker 7: initially than what other Quanzi events we're going on in 1180 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 7: the city. We want to to offer music, you want 1181 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 7: to offer poetry, you want to offer bands, you want 1182 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 7: to offer hip hop, and that's who did we have 1183 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:11,519 Speaker 7: a little right. 1184 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 3: We're getting the feedback again, so so hold that thought 1185 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 3: right there. Sixteen minutes at the top of the I'll 1186 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 3: try and fix that feedback. This doesn't sound good on 1187 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 3: the air we got if you're just checking in the 1188 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,720 Speaker 3: family on this Wednesday morning, Brother Saying, Go bay is 1189 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,600 Speaker 3: as semilar panel discussing Quanta, how they celebrate Quanta, what 1190 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,559 Speaker 3: they're doing for Quanta this year, how they started celebrating Quanta, 1191 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 3: and what are your thoughts you took in getting on 1192 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 3: this conversation. Reach out to us at eight hundred four 1193 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 3: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your 1194 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 3: phone calls. After the short break, we'll take all your calls. 1195 01:09:41,560 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 14: Next fourteen fifty w O L. Kils Now back to 1196 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 14: the Karl Nelson Show. 1197 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,280 Speaker 3: And Grand Rising Family. Thanks for starting your Wednesday with 1198 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,679 Speaker 3: us this Christmas Eve for some folks. Twenty minutes after 1199 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 3: the top of the hour, brother Saying, Go Baye. Garvey 1200 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 3: is a similar panel of folks who celebrate kuans and 1201 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,599 Speaker 3: they give them us some of the history how they 1202 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 3: started celebrating Quanti, When did they recognize Kwanza? Well, their 1203 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,760 Speaker 3: thoughts about Quansa because all of a sudden, you know 1204 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 3: some of us who's who celebrated Christmas and some still 1205 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,679 Speaker 3: sell us who celebrate Christmas. You can still celebrate Kwanza. 1206 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,320 Speaker 3: And that's the thought for the day. But before we left, 1207 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,240 Speaker 3: the sister Atia was going to join us. So it's 1208 01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 3: sister are tears. She's an educator by trade. Sister a 1209 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,479 Speaker 3: tea your thoughts. 1210 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,080 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm here, Thank you so much. 1211 01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:40,599 Speaker 5: Baba. 1212 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 6: So I would like to bring in Baba Jua, who 1213 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,719 Speaker 6: is one of my partners. If he's on the Callbajua, 1214 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 6: are you here? 1215 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:57,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's there, I'm not here and he's not responding. 1216 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 6: Okay, So well I'm not sure, but so I can 1217 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,600 Speaker 6: continue to move forward. And so, yes, we are celebrating 1218 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,640 Speaker 6: Nea Knight. And as I said before, we will be 1219 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 6: introducing our youth awardies from our fifth annual Illuminature Black 1220 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,800 Speaker 6: Brilliance Awards. We will have a panel discussion which is 1221 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 6: a staateful for our Quanta Knight and this year our 1222 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,760 Speaker 6: topic will be how do Black youth use their brilliance 1223 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 6: and resilience to restore and uplift our communities? And so 1224 01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,599 Speaker 6: this panel discussion is really important because we really want 1225 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,720 Speaker 6: to get our children thinking about how do they use 1226 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 6: their talents to uplift their community. We know that unfortunately, 1227 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,880 Speaker 6: our music has been hijacked and so much of the 1228 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,880 Speaker 6: popular music, the music that we hear on the radio 1229 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 6: or the music that unfortunately our children are attracted to, 1230 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,720 Speaker 6: it's very low vibrational and there are these messages that 1231 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,400 Speaker 6: really keep our children from elevator. And so that is 1232 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 6: a conversation that we have while we have so many 1233 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,960 Speaker 6: young people and elders alike in the room and so 1234 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:11,080 Speaker 6: we really pushed them to stretch their thinking around. So 1235 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,479 Speaker 6: we recognize your brilliance and we recognize your resilience, but 1236 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,599 Speaker 6: how do you use those talents to then uplift your community? 1237 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,839 Speaker 6: And so we're really excited for this year's panel topic. 1238 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,360 Speaker 6: We have Koyaba Dance Theater who will be for their 1239 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,600 Speaker 6: children's company will be performing this year. We'll have a 1240 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:35,760 Speaker 6: fan fashion show where we are highlighting local African of 1241 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 6: course designers and so we're really excited. We'll have vendors 1242 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,479 Speaker 6: and we're just really excited to bring people together to 1243 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,559 Speaker 6: really raise the vibrations of our community and to have 1244 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 6: conversations and interactions where we just get to enjoy each 1245 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:54,759 Speaker 6: other as African people. 1246 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,519 Speaker 3: All right, let's say brother Ju, I could get in here. 1247 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:58,799 Speaker 3: He's online six, Brother. 1248 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 12: Jua, good morning. Can I be hurt? 1249 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,280 Speaker 3: You can be heard? Go ahead? Brother? Your thought? 1250 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:04,919 Speaker 12: Perfect? 1251 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:05,920 Speaker 7: Oh? 1252 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 12: Perfect? No, Mama Tea was speaking to it. You know 1253 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 12: the Quanda event that we're putting on a bus boys 1254 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,599 Speaker 12: in Hyattsville on knee and night. 1255 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 3: Are you there? I think we may have lost three 1256 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 3: minutes after the top of the hour. 1257 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 13: Brother. 1258 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:29,720 Speaker 3: Oh, let's go to brother Obi. Brother Obi, Yeah, fill 1259 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 3: us in and tell us what you know because you 1260 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 3: said quantita. Like many of us adults, we came to 1261 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 3: the quanza game later in life because we already we 1262 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,160 Speaker 3: already was observing Christmas because of our parents. What do 1263 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 3: you think people who who celebrate Kwanza, what do you 1264 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 3: think they missed the most for not celebrating and who 1265 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 3: just celebrate quans exclusively and not Christmas anymore? What do 1266 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,240 Speaker 3: you think they missed the most about Christmas? 1267 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 7: That's a fantastic question for the crowd. Nelson, I really 1268 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 7: appreciate it question, you know what, To be honest with you, 1269 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:06,719 Speaker 7: I think most of us, except for our children for example, 1270 01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,839 Speaker 7: and other people's children, who were raised exclusively on Quansa. 1271 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,680 Speaker 7: If you weren't raised exclusively on Quansa, of course you 1272 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:18,120 Speaker 7: got amazing memories probably of being young, probably of being 1273 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,639 Speaker 7: around a tree, the anticipation of seeing gifts and all 1274 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 7: that kind of thing. You know, lights in your house, 1275 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 7: lights outside of your house. You know, warm moments that 1276 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,760 Speaker 7: you have at any family gathering, and Christmas in particular, 1277 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 7: you know, there was a very powerful commercialization, commercials the 1278 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 7: whole world outside your door things to be doing Christmas, 1279 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,680 Speaker 7: and you're doing quansas. So it takes you have to 1280 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,439 Speaker 7: be brave and bold to do Quansa. And so I 1281 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,559 Speaker 7: think the idea of not being a part of the 1282 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 7: popular trend of the rest of the world, with that 1283 01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 7: excitement that you still might feel from your childhood going on, 1284 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,000 Speaker 7: that's probably the biggest thing that you missed. You miss 1285 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:08,480 Speaker 7: being detached from that reality, that excitement that everybody seems 1286 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 7: to have. But with Kwanza, like my daughter said, you know, 1287 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 7: there's seven days of excitement. There's new community, there's new ideas, 1288 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,760 Speaker 7: there's new concepts, there's you know that, there's these principles 1289 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,680 Speaker 7: and so we regnite and create that same warmth and 1290 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,719 Speaker 7: light and feeling in our in our own house, uh, 1291 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 7: you know through QUANSA. 1292 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 3: Let me jump in and ask you this, brother, because 1293 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,080 Speaker 3: you mentioned commercialization, are you concerned that Quanta may soon 1294 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 3: be commercialized, you know, having quants of these rappers are 1295 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,280 Speaker 3: having the kind of quands of parties of that that 1296 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,040 Speaker 3: when we see them doing now for King Day and 1297 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 3: the stores having quants of sales, is that a concern 1298 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,599 Speaker 3: to you? And maybe it's a better question for doctor Korrenger, 1299 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 3: but what are your thoughts. 1300 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,000 Speaker 7: I do see people trying to take advantage of it 1301 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,760 Speaker 7: in that way. I haven't seen that kind of success 1302 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,439 Speaker 7: in a major way. I've definitely seen different, you know, 1303 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,960 Speaker 7: brands try to jump on the Quantita train to a degree, 1304 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,880 Speaker 7: I think they don't know what to do with it. Yet. 1305 01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 7: I'm not concerned because we on the grassroots level, you know, 1306 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 7: we really champion this on a real way year after 1307 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 7: year after year after year, and we really live it. 1308 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 7: So I don't see it being commercialized right now in 1309 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,320 Speaker 7: that way, I would not mind. And there are things 1310 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,599 Speaker 7: that that we wanted that we're gonna do as far 1311 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 7: as having different quantity events and different kinds of media 1312 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 7: that popularize it more to specifically to black people. But 1313 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 7: our whole aim is that that popularizing comes back to 1314 01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 7: the black community economically, and you know that kind of way, 1315 01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,639 Speaker 7: you know, as you popular lies it because we want 1316 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 7: We would love for more Black people in America and 1317 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 7: more Black people in Africa, and more Black people everywhere 1318 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 7: to celebrate and be a part of the Kwanza holiday. 1319 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,560 Speaker 7: That would be a fantastic thing. I mean, can you 1320 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,320 Speaker 7: imagine the whole world if the whole world was celebrating 1321 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 7: and living seven principles of Kwanza every day, that would 1322 01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:15,479 Speaker 7: be absolutely amazed, you know, and they'd be energized and 1323 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,720 Speaker 7: the courage to buy black that. 1324 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, because we have that feedback after that. Top there. 1325 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 3: Thank you, brother Obi, Brother ju Ju is back, Brother 1326 01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 3: ju are yes? 1327 01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 12: Can I be hurt? 1328 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 3: You surely? Can? 1329 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:32,599 Speaker 12: Oh? 1330 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 4: Perfect? All right? 1331 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 12: Thank you for having me back. Brother Carl. What question 1332 01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 12: am I responding to? 1333 01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:38,400 Speaker 4: Now? 1334 01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,040 Speaker 3: Beat me? I forgot I'll be honest with you. 1335 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 12: No, it's all good, so I'll jump in. So I 1336 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,760 Speaker 12: was talking with Sister Tia, and you know we are 1337 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,840 Speaker 12: we are doing that Quanta event at bus Boys in 1338 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,920 Speaker 12: Hyattsville on me and night, and as the other Bober 1339 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 12: spoke to their many different things that are happening around 1340 01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 12: the DC area for Quanta, So it's a lot of 1341 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 12: ways to plug in. I think for us, one of 1342 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 12: the things that we're bringing to the table is an 1343 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,840 Speaker 12: opportunity for our young people between fifteen and like twenty 1344 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,120 Speaker 12: four to kind of offer their gifts and their talents 1345 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,800 Speaker 12: to the community, be recognized to that. It's intergenerational, so 1346 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,400 Speaker 12: as little kids, there's people in their twenties and thirty, 1347 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,840 Speaker 12: there's elders there, and it's an opportunity for those young 1348 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 12: people who are are doing creative things to kind of 1349 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,800 Speaker 12: stay connected, stay connected to the elders, they connected to 1350 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 12: their community, and be reminded of their responsibility to do 1351 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:32,719 Speaker 12: something to uplift African people. 1352 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 3: Gotcha sounds our great Dale twenty eight After the top 1353 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:40,439 Speaker 3: they up BILLI Saint Gore. You assemble this panel together? 1354 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,040 Speaker 3: What was the what's the premise? What do you think 1355 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 3: listeners should get out of the conversation? 1356 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 4: This morning, longevity and consistency. And as I said earlier 1357 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:53,920 Speaker 4: and even way before kwans manifested, we were doing these 1358 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 4: kind of celebrations around harvest and first fruits. And of 1359 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 4: course doctor Karinga will will speak more specifically to that, 1360 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,400 Speaker 4: but I would say to you, Kaul that it's re 1361 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 4: africanizing ourselves in the Western hemisphere and around the world 1362 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,400 Speaker 4: and reconnecting with Africa. The reason I assembled this group 1363 01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 4: together today is to demonstrate to the world that there's 1364 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,800 Speaker 4: a legacy going on. There's a tribute to our ancestors, 1365 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 4: there's a tribute to the elders, and most of all, 1366 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,040 Speaker 4: there's a tribute of reaching to our youth so we 1367 01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,840 Speaker 4: can redirect their energy under so that they understand with 1368 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,720 Speaker 4: their electricity that they do not have to listen to 1369 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,840 Speaker 4: negative music or negative vibrations coming into them. They can 1370 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,920 Speaker 4: accacuate positive and Quansa is not something that is just 1371 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,640 Speaker 4: celebrated at the end of the year. I want to 1372 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 4: stress that again Quanza three sixty five. Every day, every 1373 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:55,479 Speaker 4: day all throughout the year, we should practice then guzahsaba. 1374 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,800 Speaker 4: And if we do that, as Obi said, we got 1375 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,840 Speaker 4: millions already around the world that celebrate Kwansa. But it's 1376 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:06,000 Speaker 4: not just about the celebration. It's about renewing your energy 1377 01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:12,799 Speaker 4: around just like the winter solstice is a time to revive, renew, restore, meditate, 1378 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:17,120 Speaker 4: go in and check out internally what you're doing with yourself, 1379 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,080 Speaker 4: improve upon yourself and prepare for the new sun and 1380 01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,479 Speaker 4: the new year. Well it's great time because that segues 1381 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,679 Speaker 4: right into Kwansa. And so doctor Karinga and others were 1382 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,840 Speaker 4: motivated by our ancestors to build something that would bring 1383 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,400 Speaker 4: us more back to our africanity and our African culture 1384 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,440 Speaker 4: and our unity. So the Nguza Saba, those seven principles 1385 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:44,439 Speaker 4: are principles that everybody should live by all the time. 1386 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:52,599 Speaker 4: So what you do when you say unity kuji chakaala, ujima, ujama, miya, 1387 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:57,360 Speaker 4: kumba and imani is you're renewing your spirit with the 1388 01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,200 Speaker 4: tradition of our ancestors all the way back to ain't 1389 01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,240 Speaker 4: you comment? So we are figning ourselves with the new 1390 01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:07,760 Speaker 4: sun that comes in today, in fact or tomorrow when 1391 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,000 Speaker 4: the new sun comes in. We have restored ourselves. We 1392 01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,400 Speaker 4: have looked back at our past. We have gotten rid 1393 01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 4: of some of our shortcomings and our negatives, dropped them 1394 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,799 Speaker 4: aside and become more conscious of building and going forward. 1395 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,920 Speaker 4: So that's why this panel today is together just to 1396 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:27,320 Speaker 4: show it's not just about the elders who are holding 1397 01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,640 Speaker 4: the culture together, to you hold the culture together. And 1398 01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 4: you know, I've been practicing kwanta for a long time, 1399 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,280 Speaker 4: even long before I got into Unia. But if you 1400 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:41,320 Speaker 4: look at that, you are the purpose you in Ia. 1401 01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 4: So Garvey, and even before Garvey, they were practicing and 1402 01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,760 Speaker 4: Gussar but they might not have called it Kwansa, but 1403 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 4: they were practicing positive principles to bring us back together again. 1404 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 4: So thanks to doctor Karinga and others, they have bought 1405 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,479 Speaker 4: that forward in nineteen sixty six and now we're continuing it. 1406 01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:00,719 Speaker 4: So here's twenty twenty five. Look at what has happened 1407 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,280 Speaker 4: with sister Atia, look at what has happened with brother 1408 01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:07,680 Speaker 4: Obie A Medica and the children of them. They are 1409 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,400 Speaker 4: practicing and carrying it forward. So I just want to 1410 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,240 Speaker 4: give hope to everybody. But I want everybody to understand 1411 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,480 Speaker 4: as we close today, the Winner Solstice is very important, 1412 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 4: very very important to look to the sky and look 1413 01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:25,479 Speaker 4: inside yourself and think about building something positive for the future. 1414 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna stop right there, car because we've got a 1415 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:28,120 Speaker 4: lot of other people that. 1416 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,840 Speaker 3: Have, yeah, twenty eight away from the top of the 1417 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,920 Speaker 3: half a family, and I want to speak to brother 1418 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 3: Obie's better half, if you will, because I got to 1419 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 3: ask her of the question, how do we maintain keeping 1420 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 3: the seven principles alive throughout the year? I mean, we 1421 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 3: talk about it, and we talk about for the seven 1422 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:48,080 Speaker 3: days of Quasla, but ideally, doctor Krank beleiast, we should 1423 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,840 Speaker 3: keep this the seven days in engaging the seven principles 1424 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,760 Speaker 3: throughout the entire year. How can we do that? 1425 01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Baba again, my name is am in a 1426 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,439 Speaker 5: concept suit, Holly. The way that we do that is by, 1427 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,839 Speaker 5: just like Barba said, consistently practicing it in Guzu Sabas 1428 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,280 Speaker 5: throughout the year. One of the beautiful things about Kwanta 1429 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:14,640 Speaker 5: is the seven principles. You can take those seven principles 1430 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,000 Speaker 5: and apply them to yourself and practice them and apply 1431 01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:21,400 Speaker 5: it to everything, apply it to your family. If everyone 1432 01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:27,000 Speaker 5: practiced it in Guzuo Sabers throughout the year, we would 1433 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,320 Speaker 5: definitely be a better people. We'd be better off as 1434 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 5: a as a nation, as a nation, because you'd be 1435 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:41,000 Speaker 5: consistently cultivating yourself. Everyone will be consistently cultivating themselves, you know, 1436 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 5: throughout throughout the entire year. You know, Ujima you mean 1437 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:52,680 Speaker 5: you know Umoja, you know unity fujisakalia, you know, come on, 1438 01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:53,840 Speaker 5: you can how. 1439 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,559 Speaker 3: Would and ask you is you do you think? Because 1440 01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:59,720 Speaker 3: you know, we've been trying to find a unifying issue here, 1441 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,519 Speaker 3: but all black people can celebrate and get get around 1442 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,519 Speaker 3: and you know, approve it. I think one of your 1443 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,040 Speaker 3: daughters or it might have been Obi brother Obie said 1444 01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:11,240 Speaker 3: that he likes to everybody celebrate Quanta. But you know, 1445 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,840 Speaker 3: first I'd like to see all Black people celebrate Quanta 1446 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,200 Speaker 3: because we and this goes throughout the diaspora, because you know, 1447 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,760 Speaker 3: we've been colonized. Some of us speak French, some of 1448 01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:25,000 Speaker 3: these speak Portuguese, Portuguese, some speak English, and some still 1449 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:29,080 Speaker 3: reside with their native dialects. So we looking for unified 1450 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,680 Speaker 3: force and since we can't do it through the language, 1451 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,080 Speaker 3: uh Kahili is what they're trying to push on most forces. 1452 01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,200 Speaker 3: But a lot of the African nations are pushing back 1453 01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:41,080 Speaker 3: on speaking Keswaili. But I think this is an issue 1454 01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,799 Speaker 3: an era here Quanta with we all of us can celebrate, say. 1455 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,960 Speaker 5: You exactly, we can all celebrate Kwanta and we can 1456 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,800 Speaker 5: all implement those principles into our personal lives in order 1457 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,840 Speaker 5: to cultivate ourselves as individuals so that we may come 1458 01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,840 Speaker 5: together as a unified force. We have to come to 1459 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,600 Speaker 5: get as a as a unified force. That is what 1460 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,760 Speaker 5: African needs. That is what we here need here in 1461 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,599 Speaker 5: America and throughout the entire diaspora. We need to unite 1462 01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,720 Speaker 5: as one people so that we can rise us and 1463 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:17,320 Speaker 5: be great. You know, we must do that. 1464 01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,280 Speaker 3: It's just that too. As an educated how much of 1465 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 3: how much leeway do you have to pass on the 1466 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 3: seven pins of Quanja to your students still if you're 1467 01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:29,439 Speaker 3: still teaching. 1468 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 6: That's a phenomenal question. And I did want to mention 1469 01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:37,120 Speaker 6: that our team, we are all educators, and so this 1470 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 6: work is very dear and serious for us. 1471 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:41,120 Speaker 9: We are all. 1472 01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:45,400 Speaker 6: Educators and and we are pretty much in places where 1473 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,599 Speaker 6: our children need the most help. And so I think 1474 01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:53,680 Speaker 6: that I think the last administration with them being so 1475 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,680 Speaker 6: loose with so many things, and we won't go into that, 1476 01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,160 Speaker 6: but it it opened a way for us to be 1477 01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,919 Speaker 6: able to really speak clearly and freely about our culture, 1478 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:08,840 Speaker 6: and so absolutely we as much as we can, we 1479 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,639 Speaker 6: introduce the seven Principles, because again, like the sister said, 1480 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,559 Speaker 6: it's a lifestyle, right, these are principles that we can 1481 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,200 Speaker 6: all live by and stand on. And so as much 1482 01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:23,760 Speaker 6: as possible, I speak to the principles being Guzusaba. Our 1483 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:28,839 Speaker 6: students are thirsty, they're open, they recognize that there's something missing, 1484 01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,920 Speaker 6: and so what I'm experiencing now more so than ever, 1485 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,760 Speaker 6: is that our children are hungry and they want to 1486 01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:40,640 Speaker 6: know this information. They they're thirsty for it because they 1487 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,680 Speaker 6: recognize that what they are being exposed to is not 1488 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 6: making them them their best self, and so they're looking 1489 01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:47,120 Speaker 6: for things. 1490 01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:48,240 Speaker 9: They're looking for, right, just. 1491 01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 3: Hold that thought right there, I let you finish it. 1492 01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,880 Speaker 3: On the other side, we gotta step aside and get 1493 01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:53,720 Speaker 3: caught up in the ladies' news, trafficking weather in a 1494 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,040 Speaker 3: different cities. It's twenty three minutes away from the top 1495 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,679 Speaker 3: of our family. Just checking in a brother brother Saint 1496 01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,599 Speaker 3: Gobaya is a similar panel discuss quansa what are your thoughts? 1497 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,360 Speaker 3: Hit us up at eight hundred four five zero seventy 1498 01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 3: eight seventy six and ticket phone calls after the news, 1499 01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,760 Speaker 3: trafficking weather. That's next. 1500 01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,320 Speaker 10: Fourteen fifty wol. 1501 01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,120 Speaker 11: Good morning, folks on Earl Kirk. Here's the latest from 1502 01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:42,640 Speaker 11: newswe dot com Norad. We'll be tracking Santa again this 1503 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:47,320 Speaker 11: Christmas Eve. Sarah Walters reports. The annual tradition started by accident. 1504 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,400 Speaker 20: In nineteen fifty five. The folks at Norad and Colorado 1505 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,400 Speaker 20: were working a typical night shift when Air Force Colonel 1506 01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,080 Speaker 20: Harry Shop received a phone call from a child. The 1507 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,719 Speaker 20: boy had called a number he saw in a newspaper ad, 1508 01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:02,360 Speaker 20: promising he'd reach Sanna directly, but the number was wrong, 1509 01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,839 Speaker 20: and instead he called the military. Shoop was no Scrooge 1510 01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 20: and entertained all calls from kids that night, beginning a 1511 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,519 Speaker 20: new tradition. I'm Sarah Walters. 1512 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,160 Speaker 11: A DC cop is in the hospital after being hit 1513 01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,600 Speaker 11: by a vehicle on I six ninety five near the 1514 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,840 Speaker 11: Third Street Tunnel. The officer was reportedly on foot when 1515 01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,040 Speaker 11: he was hit in the eastbound lanes last night. The 1516 01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,080 Speaker 11: driver involved did remain at the scene and also suffered 1517 01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:29,760 Speaker 11: an injury. The MPD's Major Crash Unit is investigating. DC 1518 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,520 Speaker 11: police looking into a shooting at a home in Southeast 1519 01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:36,479 Speaker 11: Officers responded to Savannah Terrace around two Tuesday afternoon and 1520 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 11: found a wounded man who wasn't breathing when he was 1521 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,439 Speaker 11: taken to the hospital. No word diet on a possible 1522 01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,720 Speaker 11: suspect or motive. A man is heading to prison for 1523 01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,640 Speaker 11: a deadly twenty twenty three shooting in Dumfries. Twenty three 1524 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,559 Speaker 11: year old Kenyana Oglesby took a deal Monday where he 1525 01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,120 Speaker 11: pleaded guilty to a second degree murder charge and was 1526 01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:56,639 Speaker 11: sentenced to forty years in prison. Oglesby admitted to firing 1527 01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:58,920 Speaker 11: shots and a group of teens during an argument at 1528 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,679 Speaker 11: a townhouse that killed three year old girl and injured 1529 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,960 Speaker 11: four others. The Washington Regional Alcohol Program is teaming with 1530 01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,960 Speaker 11: Lyft to offer free rides home between ten pm and 1531 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 11: four am now through New Year's Day. A special code 1532 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:16,120 Speaker 11: is posted on the program's website. The Commanders are hosting 1533 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,080 Speaker 11: the Cowboys at one tomorrow afternoon. It might be a 1534 01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,760 Speaker 11: tough game for Washington. This is still unclear who's going 1535 01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,040 Speaker 11: to start a quarterback. In other news, punter Trusway was 1536 01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:28,799 Speaker 11: the team's only player chosen for the Pro Bowl. Hornets 1537 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,760 Speaker 11: down the Wizards one twenty six, one oh nine I'm 1538 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,360 Speaker 11: Earl Kirk. When you're looking for news for Black America, 1539 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,080 Speaker 11: go to newswe dot com. 1540 01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,000 Speaker 16: Yeah, good morning, It's brought to you by Tiny Big 1541 01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,759 Speaker 16: Out the law officer Richid Klin. We're watching an accident 1542 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,080 Speaker 16: out in the BW Parkway north bound just after four 1543 01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,000 Speaker 16: to ten. Looks like Faija and Eamassa on the scene. 1544 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,959 Speaker 16: Also looks like an accident on Rock Creek and Potomac Parkway. 1545 01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:53,599 Speaker 16: This is right at Virginia Avenue northwest. Also an accident 1546 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,680 Speaker 16: that we watching and looks like sixty six eastbound and 1547 01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,719 Speaker 16: the two right lanes remain blocked moving towards Prince. 1548 01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,080 Speaker 17: William park Way over in northern VA. 1549 01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:05,000 Speaker 16: Looks like two vehicles are involved and one has overturned. 1550 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:06,639 Speaker 17: Were ended car wrecked. 1551 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,599 Speaker 16: Insurance companies playing games call one eight hundred hurt one 1552 01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:11,839 Speaker 16: two three big Al Fights to get you paid. Attorney 1553 01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,400 Speaker 16: big Al is the law firm of Richard Klein. Taking 1554 01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,479 Speaker 16: a look at your Christmas Eve forecasts, and it looks 1555 01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,639 Speaker 16: like sunny today and his in the low fifties. Tonight, 1556 01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,360 Speaker 16: mostly cloudy, a slight chance of rain after midnight, with 1557 01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,519 Speaker 16: loads in the mid thirties. For Christmas Day, mostly cloudy 1558 01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:28,560 Speaker 16: and the thirties percent chance of rain and hising the 1559 01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:32,880 Speaker 16: fifties Dray Johnson for news Star fourteen fifty am WOL 1560 01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:34,160 Speaker 16: Where Information Is Power. 1561 01:31:40,400 --> 01:32:00,880 Speaker 14: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show. 1562 01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:05,960 Speaker 3: And Grand Rising Family. Thanks for staying with us on 1563 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,400 Speaker 3: this Wednesday morning. We're sixteen minutes away from the top 1564 01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,360 Speaker 3: of the hour with a panel assembled by Brother Singo 1565 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 3: by It discussing Quanta tell us when they started celebrating Quansa, 1566 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,920 Speaker 3: how it changed their lives. What are your thoughts? Reach 1567 01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,639 Speaker 3: out to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy 1568 01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,160 Speaker 3: eight seventy six and join the conversation. Before we do 1569 01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:24,960 Speaker 3: that there, let me just remind you. Coming up later 1570 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:28,320 Speaker 3: this morning, we're going speak with Quansa creator, doctor Milana Kurenga, 1571 01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,599 Speaker 3: and tomorrow we're going to speak with clinical psychologist doctor 1572 01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,439 Speaker 3: Jeromy Fox, and many of you know him from his 1573 01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,639 Speaker 3: best selling workbook Addicted to White The Oppressed in League 1574 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,479 Speaker 3: with the Oppressor, a shame based alliance. So both these 1575 01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:41,800 Speaker 3: scholars are going to be here over the next two days, 1576 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,680 Speaker 3: so make sure you tell all your friends tune in there. 1577 01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,719 Speaker 3: If they're on the road again, tell them to download 1578 01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,640 Speaker 3: the app from any of found stations and take that 1579 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,960 Speaker 3: with us so they can check us out today and 1580 01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 3: tomorrow and dry safely with you if you're on the 1581 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,200 Speaker 3: behind the wheel. This morning before we left, we speaking 1582 01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,640 Speaker 3: with Sister A Tea in Washington, DC. So it Sister Tea, 1583 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm making let you finish your thoughts, thank you so. 1584 01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:04,720 Speaker 6: Much, and I'm going to pass the course to bout 1585 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:09,280 Speaker 6: the juwah baba juwas because we are all educators. 1586 01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:12,519 Speaker 12: And yeah, yeah, yeah, And I've been an educator for 1587 01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,920 Speaker 12: about twenty five years and quantum practitioner in my whole life. 1588 01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 12: And the question you asked around like education, I think 1589 01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:20,080 Speaker 12: a lot of it has to do with what your 1590 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,760 Speaker 12: positionality is in the school and what the underlying philosophy 1591 01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,400 Speaker 12: is at the school. So you know, when I was 1592 01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:28,960 Speaker 12: in Philadelphia, we used inkkuza saba every day, so there 1593 01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,880 Speaker 12: was the principal every day that the kids were to 1594 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,200 Speaker 12: recite so that they knew the definition of the principle, 1595 01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,240 Speaker 12: and then we talked about how we would practice that 1596 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,680 Speaker 12: principle every day. When I moved from Philadelphia to d C, 1597 01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,000 Speaker 12: that that that philosophy is not embedded in the school, 1598 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,360 Speaker 12: because that's not like a norm, right, And so for me, 1599 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,680 Speaker 12: part of it was how do I bring that to 1600 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:52,439 Speaker 12: my students and in that environment was super oppressive and 1601 01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,760 Speaker 12: so for me, it was more like putting up a 1602 01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:57,719 Speaker 12: Quantita table in the corner of the room and having 1603 01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,080 Speaker 12: the kids ask questions about it on what I and 1604 01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:04,920 Speaker 12: now I do like Kwanza celebrations for the kids, just 1605 01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:06,920 Speaker 12: to walk them through this is how you celebrate, this 1606 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,160 Speaker 12: is what you do, This is how you set up 1607 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,639 Speaker 12: the table, this is what these things mean. So it's 1608 01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,880 Speaker 12: more about exposure, but I think it depends on the 1609 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,439 Speaker 12: school you're in, You're in the position that you have 1610 01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,120 Speaker 12: within the school, and your ability to bring whatever you 1611 01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,160 Speaker 12: can to just let people know what quantum is the 1612 01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:26,120 Speaker 12: importance of it to African people. I think another thing 1613 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,040 Speaker 12: that was mentioned is that emphasizing it's not religious, because 1614 01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,760 Speaker 12: a lot of times there's confusion around that and that 1615 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:33,599 Speaker 12: can be a block for some people if they if 1616 01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,800 Speaker 12: they associate Kwanta with any particular religion and they're saying 1617 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,160 Speaker 12: I'm not that if they're Christian or Muslim or any 1618 01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,280 Speaker 12: other religion, then it can be a block that I'm 1619 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,200 Speaker 12: practicing that. So that's a that's a point of emphasis too. 1620 01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,320 Speaker 3: All right, thirty away from the topic, Let's go back 1621 01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,439 Speaker 3: to the hollyod girls again and when you speak, just 1622 01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,719 Speaker 3: you know, just mention your name. What are your plans 1623 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:55,839 Speaker 3: for this year's at Kwanza? 1624 01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:03,760 Speaker 5: Hello, Hi, this is at Combe Holly again. All right. So, 1625 01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,599 Speaker 5: like my parents said, this event was created by them 1626 01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,360 Speaker 5: and our godmothers and fathers and it's been going for 1627 01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:17,720 Speaker 5: over thirty years now, which is just amazing, and we're 1628 01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:21,360 Speaker 5: excited to be well one having the torch passed to 1629 01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,439 Speaker 5: us and to you know, carry this and take it 1630 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:32,160 Speaker 5: into its next stages. So basically, keeping in the spirit 1631 01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:40,040 Speaker 5: of Ujima being collective work and responsibility, we also felt 1632 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:44,679 Speaker 5: to create a space for people this year to feel 1633 01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:48,960 Speaker 5: free to tap into their joy and really engage in 1634 01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,479 Speaker 5: community and activity and connect and support black businesses at 1635 01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:57,640 Speaker 5: the same time. So while traditionally over the years the 1636 01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:04,000 Speaker 5: event has been perferer formance focus the entirety of the event, 1637 01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:08,360 Speaker 5: this year will be the first ever Ujima Joint Kwanda 1638 01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:13,320 Speaker 5: Party immersive experience. So what you can expect is you'll 1639 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,839 Speaker 5: still get the traditional things like the candle lighting and everything, 1640 01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,479 Speaker 5: but you'll also see you'll see some performances of like dance, 1641 01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:25,679 Speaker 5: poetry as well as singers. But then we're also going 1642 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,400 Speaker 5: to have a moment after that where we open it 1643 01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:32,200 Speaker 5: up and it turns into a full like and it's 1644 01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,479 Speaker 5: a part of the immersive experience. It turns into a 1645 01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:39,719 Speaker 5: full party. Because you always hear about, you know, Christmas parties, 1646 01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:43,120 Speaker 5: that's like a very common idea is just basic Christmas parties. Right, 1647 01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:46,120 Speaker 5: So we were like, Okay, how come we've never been 1648 01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:51,080 Speaker 5: invited to a Kwanda party experience where you can enrich 1649 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:55,320 Speaker 5: your mind, learn about the seven principles, share knowledge as 1650 01:36:55,360 --> 01:37:00,880 Speaker 5: well as let loose and really celebrate together as a community. 1651 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:06,000 Speaker 5: The fact that we survived and thrived through another year here, 1652 01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,479 Speaker 5: you know, as we bring in the new year, we 1653 01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,719 Speaker 5: really wanted to create that space. So that's what we'll 1654 01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:16,840 Speaker 5: be doing this year. It will be DJ all Night 1655 01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:21,040 Speaker 5: through local DJ Blacks and Jackson, so shout out to 1656 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:25,880 Speaker 5: him and it'll be Yeah, it'll just be a really 1657 01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:29,920 Speaker 5: really beautiful, beautiful experience. I'm gonna have to pass it 1658 01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,200 Speaker 5: over to my sister and Sarda so she can like 1659 01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:37,240 Speaker 5: continue to speak about the event fort. 1660 01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,040 Speaker 3: And tell us if it's going to be live streamed 1661 01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,120 Speaker 3: as well, so folks listening around the country can can 1662 01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:40,720 Speaker 3: check it out. 1663 01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:43,960 Speaker 5: Yes, hell. 1664 01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:46,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, can you hear me? 1665 01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:48,040 Speaker 3: Sure? 1666 01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:55,639 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, wonderful Hi. Yes, this is Satamui Holly. As 1667 01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:59,639 Speaker 6: my sister said, yes, we will be having the Ujima 1668 01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,599 Speaker 6: Joint Quanta Party and Immersive Experience, and yes it will 1669 01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:06,400 Speaker 6: be live streamed on Zoom. The information is online as 1670 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,400 Speaker 6: well as within the Quanta calendar. And just as my 1671 01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:11,920 Speaker 6: sister said, I just wanted to reiterate that for so 1672 01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:16,400 Speaker 6: many families, this has been a challenging year. So in 1673 01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,520 Speaker 6: the spirit of Oujima, which is collective work and responsibility, 1674 01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,160 Speaker 6: we felt responsible for creating a space that allowed people 1675 01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,840 Speaker 6: to lean into their joy, their love for community and 1676 01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:27,640 Speaker 6: celebrate not only what we persevered through this year, but 1677 01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,400 Speaker 6: also celebrate the year ahead, but the principles of Quanta 1678 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,760 Speaker 6: at the center. So we just want to open the 1679 01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,960 Speaker 6: doors to not only enjoy entertainment, but also support black businesses, 1680 01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,160 Speaker 6: to the vendors that will be there, and connect with 1681 01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:42,439 Speaker 6: conscious community and ultimately just this party. You know, have 1682 01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,360 Speaker 6: a good time and I'm going to pass it along 1683 01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:49,840 Speaker 6: to my sister Arianna his This is Arianna sharing, So 1684 01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,880 Speaker 6: feel free to join us this Sunday, December twenty eighth, 1685 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,160 Speaker 6: at seven pm at the New Cultural Cafe at Studio 1686 01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:00,640 Speaker 6: W inside the Etistical Church of the Atonement. The address 1687 01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:04,960 Speaker 6: is five O seven three East Capitol Street, Southeast, Washington, 1688 01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,799 Speaker 6: d C. And again, if you cannot make it in person, 1689 01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:11,679 Speaker 6: that is completely fine. You can join us via zoom. 1690 01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:15,719 Speaker 6: It will still be a blast you've promised. And also 1691 01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:20,240 Speaker 6: this is just an EPs speaking hello. Also, if anyone 1692 01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,519 Speaker 6: would like to support us, they can. They can by 1693 01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:28,519 Speaker 6: donating by zell at Ujima Joint at gmail dot com 1694 01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:33,519 Speaker 6: or through cash app at the Ujima Joint. And if 1695 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,639 Speaker 6: you have any further inquiries, you can call or text 1696 01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:40,960 Speaker 6: us at two O two formed nine two one seven 1697 01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:45,320 Speaker 6: zero two, or you can email us at Ujima Joint 1698 01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,880 Speaker 6: at gmail dot com. Thank you. Yeah, And we also 1699 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:53,160 Speaker 6: just wanted to reiterate that this this entire event as 1700 01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,840 Speaker 6: our and from the beginning when our father I brought 1701 01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:00,479 Speaker 6: our parents originally created it, and before they passed the 1702 01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:02,879 Speaker 6: quest to us, it has always been in love offering. 1703 01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:08,479 Speaker 6: It has always been something that we are just doing 1704 01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:11,320 Speaker 6: from the heart. Everything is volunteered, the people who come 1705 01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:15,080 Speaker 6: and put it together, the acts the performers, everyone is 1706 01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:19,200 Speaker 6: coming to give something to the community. So at the 1707 01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,639 Speaker 6: heart of it this is this is a love offering. 1708 01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,200 Speaker 6: This is something that we want to do to just 1709 01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:33,600 Speaker 6: uplift and show love and support our community. 1710 01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:35,960 Speaker 5: Right back in again, this is tie On my Auntie 1711 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,760 Speaker 5: cum Holly, and I just want to also say in 1712 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,200 Speaker 5: the spirit of what my sister and Sara just mentioned 1713 01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:43,719 Speaker 5: about giving back and the fact that this has always 1714 01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,400 Speaker 5: been a free event that includes everyone who has helped 1715 01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:50,439 Speaker 5: us from and who's helping put it together. That means 1716 01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:56,840 Speaker 5: from locations to you know, volunteers, everyone that has helped 1717 01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,000 Speaker 5: put this event together over the years. It's all been 1718 01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,519 Speaker 5: through love off friends and that continues. This year was 1719 01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,080 Speaker 5: not just us helping to put this event on, but 1720 01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:12,840 Speaker 5: also the Lydia's sisters, our fee souls daughters Soyini, Sharawhah Makaida, 1721 01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:17,320 Speaker 5: as well as the Zulu girls you know, our uncle 1722 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:22,160 Speaker 5: Juansa Zulu's daughters Amaya and Anaya. And we are so 1723 01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,840 Speaker 5: grateful to have the legacies that are a part of 1724 01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,880 Speaker 5: from the parents who helped with the original event with 1725 01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,439 Speaker 5: along as our parents, but the legacies the children that 1726 01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:32,320 Speaker 5: are just like us to be a part of this 1727 01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:35,320 Speaker 5: to help with this event because us as girls, me 1728 01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:36,880 Speaker 5: and my sisters, we grew up a part of the A. 1729 01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:41,240 Speaker 5: Sarah sat society practicing comedic philosophy, and at the root 1730 01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:44,920 Speaker 5: of that philosophy is always having a view of the 1731 01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:48,759 Speaker 5: whole and considering how what you do affects the world 1732 01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:50,920 Speaker 5: around you and the people within your community and the 1733 01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:54,720 Speaker 5: people in your home. So that's why it's so important 1734 01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:56,960 Speaker 5: that we throw an event that's free for the community, 1735 01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:00,240 Speaker 5: where people can come out and celebrate and you know, 1736 01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:03,880 Speaker 5: really feel like they're at home. Because in a world 1737 01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,760 Speaker 5: where every everything costs money, everything can cost money every 1738 01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,960 Speaker 5: single day, why can't we give back. There's no reason 1739 01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,680 Speaker 5: not to. There's no reason we shouldn't. It's even more 1740 01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:17,000 Speaker 5: imperative that we do right now because people need that 1741 01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:20,600 Speaker 5: sense of community and they need that space to express themselves, 1742 01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:23,760 Speaker 5: to feel free. And we're very proud to be a 1743 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:27,800 Speaker 5: part of this legacy and two and to do this 1744 01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:33,120 Speaker 5: work because ultimately it's it's not it's not hard work, 1745 01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:36,439 Speaker 5: it's it's it's for the love of Kwanza and for 1746 01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,800 Speaker 5: the love of our people, and we're very proud to 1747 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:40,360 Speaker 5: be a part of this. 1748 01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:41,679 Speaker 9: We really really. 1749 01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:43,479 Speaker 5: Are and I just wanted to say one more time 1750 01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,400 Speaker 5: because in terms of the live stream, I just wanted 1751 01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:49,320 Speaker 5: to give those are All the information for this event 1752 01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:57,479 Speaker 5: is on uh line and on on both Facebook and 1753 01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:02,920 Speaker 5: Instagram under Hollygirls at Hollygrowth. You will be able to 1754 01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:06,479 Speaker 5: find all the information on Instagram and Facebook and the 1755 01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,759 Speaker 5: zoom id number. I just want to say this seven 1756 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:14,920 Speaker 5: nine one two six zero five one three one and 1757 01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:18,519 Speaker 5: all of the businesses that you'll see helping put this on. 1758 01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:22,240 Speaker 5: It is being hosted by het Ra, but they're all 1759 01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:25,080 Speaker 5: black owned businesses, including the vendors that will be there 1760 01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:28,880 Speaker 5: all black owned. The location black owned. So please come 1761 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,920 Speaker 5: out and support this event. It's a free event, so 1762 01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:35,120 Speaker 5: come through. We have some free raffles we're giving away 1763 01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,240 Speaker 5: all kinds of really amazing things happening throughout the night, 1764 01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,879 Speaker 5: so you don't want to miss this, all right. 1765 01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,000 Speaker 3: Thank you and thank all of you for showing up 1766 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:46,960 Speaker 3: this morning and sharing your thoughts about Quanta. Brother Shan 1767 01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:48,680 Speaker 3: go before we go, Let you guys go. 1768 01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:52,360 Speaker 4: Anything you want to add h Yes, you can also 1769 01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:57,400 Speaker 4: go to the Kwanza DC dot org calendar. You can 1770 01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:01,439 Speaker 4: also we're going on the near Knight. We're streaming that 1771 01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,679 Speaker 4: as well, and you'll be able to do that by 1772 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:07,519 Speaker 4: going to either Facebook or you know you can go 1773 01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,200 Speaker 4: to the u NIA Division three thirty dot org and 1774 01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,360 Speaker 4: get information. So we are live streaming that because our 1775 01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,400 Speaker 4: people from all over even in Africa will be tuning in. 1776 01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,160 Speaker 4: Last but not Lease. If you ever want to call 1777 01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:22,280 Speaker 4: me to get any other detailed information, you call two 1778 01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,720 Speaker 4: O two two five six two five one eight. I 1779 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:28,280 Speaker 4: want to also held up Union Temple. Union Temple can 1780 01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:32,320 Speaker 4: be called at two O two six seven eight eight 1781 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,880 Speaker 4: eight to two. They're doing every day at Union Temple 1782 01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,920 Speaker 4: as well. And as of more than enough QUANS events. 1783 01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,719 Speaker 4: Last but not least on Koji Chocolate Lea for Self 1784 01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:45,120 Speaker 4: Determination for people that have children ages three to twelve 1785 01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:47,920 Speaker 4: years old, that's where you should start. Come to the 1786 01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:52,920 Speaker 4: fifty sixth annual QUANSA Children's Party, which is gonna be 1787 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:58,000 Speaker 4: located at twenty one twelve Varnham Street Northeast at that 1788 01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,479 Speaker 4: church there. It's gonna be plenty of fun and it 1789 01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,960 Speaker 4: goes from twelve noon to three pm. So got little 1790 01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:08,120 Speaker 4: children from ages three to twelve and you can bring 1791 01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,760 Speaker 4: your older children as well, and adult are welcome. The 1792 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,880 Speaker 4: fifty six annual Kwansi Children's Party will be held there. 1793 01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:17,439 Speaker 4: Kuji Chaka live self determination. It's best to start early, 1794 01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,719 Speaker 4: just like the Holly Girls say they got it early. 1795 01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:23,400 Speaker 4: A lot of young people who get it early, they 1796 01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,120 Speaker 4: understand it clearly as they grow up and they pass 1797 01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:28,800 Speaker 4: it on. So I want to thank everybody for joining us. 1798 01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:32,639 Speaker 4: Thank you Carl, and we say to everybody end today, 1799 01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:37,080 Speaker 4: you'll win a solstice with a meditation that everything is 1800 01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:41,040 Speaker 4: going to be better for African people, north, southeast and 1801 01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,639 Speaker 4: west of the world. Meditate on that and let's make 1802 01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,439 Speaker 4: it happen as you claim it. We can attain it. 1803 01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,280 Speaker 4: One God, one aim, one definitely one Africa. 1804 01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,280 Speaker 3: All right, thank you brother saying God. Thank everybody who 1805 01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,400 Speaker 3: joined us this morning too many. Top of the our 1806 01:45:55,439 --> 01:46:01,599 Speaker 3: family again and say this never come back with doctor 1807 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:06,320 Speaker 3: Corenga eight five zero seventy eight seventy sixth and I'm 1808 01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:07,920 Speaker 3: gonna call to speak to doctor Green if you'd like 1809 01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:09,800 Speaker 3: to have a conversation with me, and we'll taking calls 1810 01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:11,799 Speaker 3: after the traffic weather it's next. 1811 01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,919 Speaker 16: But traffic on this Christmas even we're still watching an accident. 1812 01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:43,080 Speaker 16: This is out on sixty six eastbound in northern VA. 1813 01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,479 Speaker 16: And this is in Manassas. We've been watching this accident 1814 01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,240 Speaker 16: for the last hour or so, moving towards Prince William Parkway. 1815 01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:50,200 Speaker 17: It's a mess out there. 1816 01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:52,759 Speaker 16: An accident has been cleared out on sixty six Express 1817 01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:56,519 Speaker 16: lanes eastbound moving towards Sutley Road. An accident to report 1818 01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:58,639 Speaker 16: to you as we stay in northern Va on George 1819 01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:02,400 Speaker 16: Mason Drive, moving over towards Leesburg Pike. And accident has 1820 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,120 Speaker 16: been cleared from the BW Parkway here a northbound just 1821 01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:08,000 Speaker 16: after four ten out in Prince George's County. That is 1822 01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,160 Speaker 16: some good news. But an accident on two seventy northbound. 1823 01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,719 Speaker 16: This is in Rockville. Actually in the three left lanes 1824 01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,679 Speaker 16: are blocked. And this is right at West Montgomery Avenue. 1825 01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:19,960 Speaker 16: This is out in Rockville. Taking a look at your 1826 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:24,240 Speaker 16: forecast for this Christmas Eve and Sonny and Hyes will 1827 01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:27,080 Speaker 16: actually go up in the lower fifties for tonight, mostly 1828 01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:29,600 Speaker 16: cloudy and a slight chance of rain after midnight and 1829 01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:32,400 Speaker 16: Loewe's in the mid thirties. Dray Johnson on News Talk 1830 01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:36,440 Speaker 16: fourteen fifty am WOL where Information is Powered. 1831 01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:41,439 Speaker 14: Fourteen fifteen WOL, Washington d C ninety five point nine, 1832 01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:45,439 Speaker 14: W two four zero DJ w mmj HD three, w 1833 01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:53,160 Speaker 14: DCJFM HD three at worldwide at w ol dcnews dot com. 1834 01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,160 Speaker 18: The views and opinions expressed in this program are those 1835 01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:58,960 Speaker 18: of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect 1836 01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:02,280 Speaker 18: the views of urb and One Incorporated, Radio One or 1837 01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:04,240 Speaker 18: any of its subsidiary companies. 1838 01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,880 Speaker 1: You're fucking with the Most submiss the Carl Nelson Show. 1839 01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:16,600 Speaker 13: You're fucking with the most submissive. 1840 01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:41,439 Speaker 3: Yourself and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us 1841 01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,639 Speaker 3: on this Wednesday morning. Our next guest is the founder 1842 01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:49,000 Speaker 3: of Quanta, doctor Milana Karenga, Grand Rising and Harbarry Ghane. 1843 01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:56,320 Speaker 3: Doctor Krenga, welcome back to the program. 1844 01:48:56,600 --> 01:49:01,360 Speaker 9: Appreciate the invitation and the opportunity to discuss the issues with you. 1845 01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:03,960 Speaker 9: Let me just start off by thanking you for being 1846 01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:08,200 Speaker 9: so consistent and old point all these years for us 1847 01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,640 Speaker 9: and our people. It's so important for it. Thank you 1848 01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:12,080 Speaker 9: so much. 1849 01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:12,320 Speaker 7: Carl. 1850 01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:15,280 Speaker 3: Let me just tell the family, because people just think 1851 01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:18,680 Speaker 3: that doctor Karenga is just created Quanta. Doctor kreng is 1852 01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:22,760 Speaker 3: one of our top scholars family. I'm quite sure if 1853 01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:24,439 Speaker 3: he's still a professor and chair of the Department of 1854 01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:29,519 Speaker 3: African Studies of the cal State. Long are okay, okay, 1855 01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:32,479 Speaker 3: So you're retirement until the next week. Then you'll you'll 1856 01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:34,679 Speaker 3: you're finished, okay, And I'll talk. 1857 01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,000 Speaker 9: To you about that in a minute. But finish, I 1858 01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:37,519 Speaker 9: tell you. 1859 01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:39,479 Speaker 3: Yeah. Let me share with the family because you know, 1860 01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:43,000 Speaker 3: as I mentioned, doctor Kurenga is definitely one of our 1861 01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,160 Speaker 3: top scholars. As you know, he's the creator of the 1862 01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:48,519 Speaker 3: Pan African cultural holiday Quansa and the Angoos of Sabbath, 1863 01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:50,800 Speaker 3: which is the seventh principle. It's also the author and 1864 01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:55,360 Speaker 3: of the authority of text titled Quanta, a Celebration of Family, 1865 01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:58,800 Speaker 3: Community and Culture. An active at scholar, is chair of 1866 01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:02,640 Speaker 3: the organization US and then National Association of kawah Eda Organizations, 1867 01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,519 Speaker 3: and executive director of the African American Cultural Center and 1868 01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,960 Speaker 3: the COWEDA Institute of Pan African Studies. Also co chair 1869 01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,200 Speaker 3: of the Black Community Clergy and Labor Alliance the bc 1870 01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:15,719 Speaker 3: c l A. DoD Karrenga is the also the author 1871 01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:20,160 Speaker 3: of numerous scholarly articles and books, including Essays Unstruggled, Position 1872 01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:24,160 Speaker 3: and Analysis, cowa EDA and Questions of Life and Struggle. 1873 01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:27,680 Speaker 3: Maat the Moral Ideal of Ancient Egypt, A Study of 1874 01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:33,520 Speaker 3: Classical African Ethics, Introduction to Black Studies, fourth edition, Huisha, 1875 01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:39,040 Speaker 3: The Sacred Wisdom of Asian Africa, who Efa The Ethical Teachings, 1876 01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:42,559 Speaker 3: and he's currently writing a major work on the social 1877 01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:46,080 Speaker 3: and ethical philosophy of Malcolm X, title The Liberation Ethics 1878 01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:51,080 Speaker 3: of Malcolm X, Critical Consciousness, Moral Grounding and Transformative Struggle. 1879 01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:54,680 Speaker 3: Doctor Karrenger is the recipient of numerous awards for scholarship, 1880 01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:59,639 Speaker 3: leadership and service, including the Paul Robinson Zora'neil Houston Award 1881 01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:03,439 Speaker 3: for Scholarly Work of African World Culture and the C. L. R. 1882 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,400 Speaker 3: James Award for Outstanding publication of scholarly works that advanced 1883 01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,920 Speaker 3: the discipline of African Africanist Studies and Black Studies, and 1884 01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:15,120 Speaker 3: also the Presidential Award for Exemplary Service for Outstanding contributions 1885 01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,360 Speaker 3: to the field of Black Studies, all of this from 1886 01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:20,000 Speaker 3: the National Council of Black Studies. It's also the subject 1887 01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,640 Speaker 3: of a book by doctor Malefia Santi, another one of 1888 01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:26,960 Speaker 3: our top scholars, this title Milana Karrenga An Intellectual Portrait. 1889 01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:31,360 Speaker 3: Doctor Karengis also wrote the Manifesto for the million Man 1890 01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:33,960 Speaker 3: March the Minster Falcone. When decided to have that march, 1891 01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:35,959 Speaker 3: one of the first person you called was doctor Kurenga 1892 01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:38,160 Speaker 3: just to lay at the agenda for the march. So 1893 01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:42,400 Speaker 3: doctor Krenga again, Abarigani, and welcome back to the program, Buddie. 1894 01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,920 Speaker 9: I'm so glad again to be here. And I am 1895 01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:49,559 Speaker 9: still Professor and Chair of the Department of Africana Statistic 1896 01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:52,680 Speaker 9: cal State University, Long Beach. And at the end of 1897 01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,960 Speaker 9: the year, I stepped away. But as I said to 1898 01:51:56,280 --> 01:52:03,600 Speaker 9: the audience the Department and College Health retirement reception for me, 1899 01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:07,519 Speaker 9: and I told that, look, I'm not really retiring because 1900 01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:10,599 Speaker 9: I don't have a career. I have a life vocation. 1901 01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:13,639 Speaker 9: You retire from a career, but mine is a life 1902 01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:16,519 Speaker 9: vocation and so I'm not going to retire. What I'm 1903 01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:21,360 Speaker 9: going to do is step away into another special space 1904 01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:25,599 Speaker 9: which already exists. My organization, African American Coach Center US 1905 01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,120 Speaker 9: and all the other things I do and I will 1906 01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:32,000 Speaker 9: continue to do right just like I'm doing that teach 1907 01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:36,080 Speaker 9: It's like I'm doing lecturing national and international and local 1908 01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:40,559 Speaker 9: and building on and organizing in the community, building on 1909 01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:44,799 Speaker 9: the legacy left me by the ancestors. I would continue 1910 01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:48,760 Speaker 9: to do that all the way up. And so I 1911 01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:51,040 Speaker 9: just think it's very important for us to know that 1912 01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:55,000 Speaker 9: that the struggle continues, and I'm a constant soldier. That's 1913 01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:58,080 Speaker 9: part of my name. If I stop that, I wouldn't 1914 01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:00,680 Speaker 9: know myself. I know myself about what I do. So 1915 01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:03,759 Speaker 9: my line is my first name given to me by 1916 01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:06,800 Speaker 9: the people in my organization mean master teach it. So 1917 01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:10,160 Speaker 9: I must keeat and I must create works that I 1918 01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,639 Speaker 9: can teach. I can share with others so they can teach. 1919 01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:15,920 Speaker 9: My second name, given to me also by the movement 1920 01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:19,880 Speaker 9: is in wazet conscious soldier. Right, So I'm going to 1921 01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:23,120 Speaker 9: always be struggle. I'm all wa it's going to reaffirm 1922 01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:28,839 Speaker 9: our people's radical refusal to be defeated. And they're victorious conscious, 1923 01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:31,639 Speaker 9: they're looking for victory and fighting for victory and will 1924 01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:34,360 Speaker 9: of course achieve it. And then finally, my last name, 1925 01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:38,880 Speaker 9: which I took myself, is Kurenga keep other tradition. I 1926 01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:45,240 Speaker 9: enjoy studying and constructing and reconstructing, going back sank Cofort 1927 01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:49,439 Speaker 9: almost intellectual archaeology, going all the way back and bringing 1928 01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:52,719 Speaker 9: forth for my culture the best of what it means 1929 01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:56,320 Speaker 9: to be African and human and speaking our special culture 1930 01:53:56,360 --> 01:54:00,160 Speaker 9: truth to the world, making our own unique contribution to 1931 01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:04,880 Speaker 9: how we reconceive this country and the world and reconstruct 1932 01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:09,400 Speaker 9: it in a more human way. So I'm continuing to 1933 01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:12,439 Speaker 9: struggle and are continuing the work. Thank you so much. 1934 01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:16,639 Speaker 3: You know doctor current A, Brother Tony Brown, and doctor 1935 01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:21,000 Speaker 3: Lefia Sante. I'm leaning on them to find our next 1936 01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:23,840 Speaker 3: set of scholars. They say they're out there, young people 1937 01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:26,320 Speaker 3: because a lot of our scholars like me and you. 1938 01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:30,000 Speaker 3: I don't con say myself but a scholar, but we're 1939 01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:32,440 Speaker 3: up there. We're getting up there in age and we 1940 01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,520 Speaker 3: need to pass on this information to the younger generation. 1941 01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:41,040 Speaker 3: Both brother Tony and Brother Malefia are very optimistic about 1942 01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:43,360 Speaker 3: our future. They say there's a lot of young people 1943 01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,400 Speaker 3: coming up who are going to take We're going to 1944 01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:47,960 Speaker 3: pass the baton to them. Are you in agreement with that? 1945 01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:50,840 Speaker 3: In your area, you've seen a lot of young people 1946 01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:52,720 Speaker 3: that come up that we could identify as some of 1947 01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:54,000 Speaker 3: our top scholars. 1948 01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,440 Speaker 9: Yes, I think so. One of the things I wanted 1949 01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:00,680 Speaker 9: to say about you is you what we call an 1950 01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:05,360 Speaker 9: activist intellectual. The difference between a scholar and an intellectual's 1951 01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:11,120 Speaker 9: a scholar spends time doing research and a discipline study 1952 01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:15,480 Speaker 9: within a certain discipline like that. But an intellectual is 1953 01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:20,040 Speaker 9: a person that deals with ideas and thinks deeply about 1954 01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:24,240 Speaker 9: those ideas and does the kind of study that here 1955 01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:28,560 Speaker 9: she needs in order to master those ideas and share 1956 01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:33,240 Speaker 9: them with the people. So you like an organic intellectual, activist, intellecture, 1957 01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,880 Speaker 9: that's what we would call that. That's very important. Before 1958 01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,480 Speaker 9: I said no, the difference between an intellecture and a scholar. 1959 01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:42,360 Speaker 9: So that Haiji Malcolm was an intellectuor he wasn't a scholar, 1960 01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:46,880 Speaker 9: but he was a master intellectual. And so in terms 1961 01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:51,600 Speaker 9: of young people, you know, uh, I take I take 1962 01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:56,720 Speaker 9: their position. I take moles in Tony's position, doctor Scien 1963 01:55:56,840 --> 01:56:02,240 Speaker 9: and doctor Broughder's position that future is good in the 1964 01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:06,800 Speaker 9: hands of young people that are involving. In fact, a 1965 01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:11,600 Speaker 9: molefic doctor sciente has trained many, if not most, of 1966 01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:14,360 Speaker 9: these people that out there. Certainly I shouldn't say most, 1967 01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:17,280 Speaker 9: but many many. I don't want to overstake, but he 1968 01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:21,560 Speaker 9: has trained those people in his classes. He's given them 1969 01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:26,040 Speaker 9: the African centered basis for doing what they need to do. 1970 01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:30,400 Speaker 9: Certainly I have done this, my colleague, Professor Amen Ra 1971 01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:34,520 Speaker 9: at cal State. I mean, he's done hundreds and hundreds 1972 01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:38,320 Speaker 9: of people, given them the basis for building. It's up 1973 01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:41,520 Speaker 9: to them now. And I take the position with none 1974 01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:46,360 Speaker 9: of Frians for known that each generation must discover its 1975 01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:50,760 Speaker 9: mission and have been discovered, either fulfill it or betray it. 1976 01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,280 Speaker 9: So it's up to them. It's in their hands. But 1977 01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:56,200 Speaker 9: we have faith in them, and we believe that they 1978 01:56:56,280 --> 01:57:00,800 Speaker 9: will continue the struggle. Keep the faith and the line, 1979 01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:03,360 Speaker 9: and those are the three things I'm always looking for 1980 01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:08,240 Speaker 9: continuing the struggle. Is their scholarship, and is their work, 1981 01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:12,880 Speaker 9: their research to teaching the pediculture all directed toward the 1982 01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:17,160 Speaker 9: liberation and upliftment of our peoples. Continuing the struggle? Do 1983 01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:21,400 Speaker 9: they keep the faith? Reaffirm what we say in our 1984 01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:26,080 Speaker 9: organization us that our people have this radical refusal to 1985 01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:28,320 Speaker 9: be defeated. Do they have that? And do they have 1986 01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:32,040 Speaker 9: what Molefic caused, the victorious consciousness right that we're going 1987 01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,840 Speaker 9: to win regardless. You know, So all the time we 1988 01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:39,240 Speaker 9: end our our meeting by saying that we got to 1989 01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:43,879 Speaker 9: believe in you know, the righteousness and victory of our struggle. 1990 01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:45,760 Speaker 9: I mean that's key there. We start with the belief 1991 01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,480 Speaker 9: in our people right, but we end with the belief 1992 01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:51,800 Speaker 9: in the righteousness and victure of our struggle, and so 1993 01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:56,080 Speaker 9: our scholarship, our intellectual work, must be joined with a 1994 01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:59,880 Speaker 9: practical work to expand the realm of freedom and just 1995 01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:05,200 Speaker 9: this equality and other goods that we see as indivisible, 1996 01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,600 Speaker 9: inclusive and shared goods in the world. 1997 01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:10,200 Speaker 3: All right, twelve minutes at the top of that, our 1998 01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:12,000 Speaker 3: family call up a couple of friends sell them. Doctor 1999 01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:14,800 Speaker 3: Korrenga's on the radio, and they learn a lot about 2000 01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:17,000 Speaker 3: Quanza how and he's going to share with us and 2001 01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:19,440 Speaker 3: I let's have the question straight up, doctor Krenga, how 2002 01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:20,880 Speaker 3: did you come up with the ij How do you 2003 01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:22,000 Speaker 3: conceive of Kwanza? 2004 01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:27,720 Speaker 9: I created Quansa in the context of the Black Freedom movement, 2005 01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:34,160 Speaker 9: And what I wanted to do is to let me 2006 01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:36,120 Speaker 9: just say when I said in the context of the 2007 01:58:36,160 --> 01:58:40,400 Speaker 9: Black freedom it been in nineteen sixty five. I began 2008 01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:45,760 Speaker 9: to think about joining the movement full times. So I 2009 01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:49,840 Speaker 9: was working on my doctorate at UCLA. I left UCLA 2010 01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:54,000 Speaker 9: and I began to organize it again to you know, 2011 01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:57,400 Speaker 9: found my own organization. But even before I was out 2012 01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:00,680 Speaker 9: of UCLA. I belonged to a group called the After 2013 01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:04,760 Speaker 9: American Association, and I did a lot of my preliminary 2014 01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:08,480 Speaker 9: work and thinking of doing that time. And then I 2015 01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:11,920 Speaker 9: left UCLA working on my doctorate. I came back, of course, 2016 01:59:12,360 --> 01:59:15,760 Speaker 9: and finished my doctorate at USIU, and then I got 2017 01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:19,360 Speaker 9: a second one at usc and the second one was 2018 01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:23,080 Speaker 9: of course in Martian ethics. That's what my dissertation was on. 2019 01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:27,280 Speaker 9: But anyhow, I came out and I asked myself rich. 2020 01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:31,600 Speaker 9: But I, of course to this question that doctor Mary 2021 01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:35,120 Speaker 9: mccloudmanth throw in grade. She said, knowledge is the prime 2022 01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:37,880 Speaker 9: need of the hour. People want to know. What are 2023 01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:40,880 Speaker 9: you going to do with your knowledge? And she said 2024 01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:44,720 Speaker 9: it's up to us, those who know, to discover the 2025 01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:48,560 Speaker 9: dawn and then share it with our youth and the 2026 01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:52,280 Speaker 9: masses of our people who needed most. So I first 2027 01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:57,360 Speaker 9: I created Quansa for that to contribute to the movement. 2028 01:59:57,720 --> 02:00:03,520 Speaker 9: And so Quansa became in that concept first of all, 2029 02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:07,960 Speaker 9: an act of freedom, second, an instrument of freedom, third 2030 02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:12,280 Speaker 9: a celebration of freedom, and force a practice of freedom. 2031 02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:16,280 Speaker 9: It was actual freedom. It is actual self determination. Right. 2032 02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:20,200 Speaker 9: We didn't go to the local government or the bounty, 2033 02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:24,120 Speaker 9: city government, county government, state government, or federal government and 2034 02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:28,480 Speaker 9: ask them we have a holiday, or to recognize our holiday. 2035 02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:31,880 Speaker 9: You know, that's vulnerable and it doesn't represent self determination 2036 02:00:31,960 --> 02:00:34,040 Speaker 9: on one level or one lever. I understand it. So 2037 02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:35,920 Speaker 9: I don't want to put it day on. But I'm 2038 02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:39,280 Speaker 9: just saying, look at what's happening now. Because they gave 2039 02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:41,560 Speaker 9: it to you, then they can say we're not to 2040 02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:44,600 Speaker 9: celebrate that anymore, right, So no, you have to do 2041 02:00:44,680 --> 02:00:47,120 Speaker 9: it yourself. And then the final nts. You know, black 2042 02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:50,440 Speaker 9: people are going to celebrate the holidays. Even if the 2043 02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:54,920 Speaker 9: Europeans recognize it and say that's a national holiday. They 2044 02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:57,520 Speaker 9: have to do what we did with Conset, go on 2045 02:00:57,600 --> 02:01:01,840 Speaker 9: and celebrate it regardless. Right. The fiant right be self 2046 02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:05,920 Speaker 9: determination second principle right, and so I did it as 2047 02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:10,720 Speaker 9: an act of self determination. We authorize ourselves second. So 2048 02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:14,720 Speaker 9: it was not only an active freedom, it was an 2049 02:01:14,720 --> 02:01:17,600 Speaker 9: instrument of freedom. We use it as a time to 2050 02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:21,560 Speaker 9: raise black consciousness. We said black is not just color, 2051 02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:25,560 Speaker 9: it's also culture and consciousness. And the consciousness comes from 2052 02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:28,520 Speaker 9: the culture, the will to liberate the people, the will 2053 02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:31,720 Speaker 9: to uplift the people, and to talk about what it 2054 02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:35,120 Speaker 9: means to be African in the world right, and to 2055 02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:39,560 Speaker 9: realfirm our sacredness, our soulfulness, our resilience, our resource forul 2056 02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:42,080 Speaker 9: it more than any other time. You know, Black people 2057 02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:46,280 Speaker 9: do that around quansam right. They become defiant around quinsa. 2058 02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:49,280 Speaker 9: You know what I mean. People got there, how we 2059 02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:52,520 Speaker 9: got ours? You know, that's how they think about it. 2060 02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:57,280 Speaker 9: And so it became an instrument of freedom by raising 2061 02:01:57,520 --> 02:02:03,120 Speaker 9: consciousness cultural consciousness, but political consciousness, the will to struggle 2062 02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:07,480 Speaker 9: and the will to reaffirm the beauty of being Black, 2063 02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:12,200 Speaker 9: the beauty of being African, and also the responsibility of 2064 02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:15,280 Speaker 9: being African in the world. Third, it became a celebration. 2065 02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:18,480 Speaker 9: Everybody knows this is a raise of freedom. Freedom from 2066 02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:24,080 Speaker 9: self restriction, self restraint, self doubt, self condemnation. That's why 2067 02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:26,440 Speaker 9: I always tell people, not just on your show, but 2068 02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:30,000 Speaker 9: everybody show, don't come on here talking about how bad 2069 02:02:30,040 --> 02:02:33,120 Speaker 9: black people. We can talk problems, but don't generalize. Don't 2070 02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:34,120 Speaker 9: call a problem. 2071 02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:36,280 Speaker 3: Black, right and hold up thought Right there, doctor Kreng, 2072 02:02:36,320 --> 02:02:37,760 Speaker 3: we got to step aside for a few months. How did 2073 02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:39,720 Speaker 3: you pick it up? And we come back? Family just 2074 02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:41,760 Speaker 3: joined us seventeen minutes at the top of that with 2075 02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:45,280 Speaker 3: Kwansa creator, doctor Malana Karrenga. Doctor Krenga is explaining to 2076 02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:48,000 Speaker 3: us and sharing with us how we created Kwanza. What 2077 02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,040 Speaker 3: are your thoughts? Eight hundred and four or five zero 2078 02:02:50,200 --> 02:02:52,920 Speaker 3: seventy eight seventy six Speak to doctor Karrenga and we'll 2079 02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:53,720 Speaker 3: take the phone calls. 2080 02:02:53,800 --> 02:03:28,960 Speaker 14: Mag fourteen fifty wol Now back to the Carl Nelson Show. 2081 02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:52,240 Speaker 3: And Grand Rising family. Thanks for rolling with us on 2082 02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:55,040 Speaker 3: this Wednesday morning with our guest, the doctor Milana Kranka. 2083 02:03:55,200 --> 02:03:57,800 Speaker 3: Dr Krank of course created Quansa before we left to 2084 02:03:57,920 --> 02:04:00,480 Speaker 3: tell us the steps he took to create the So, 2085 02:04:00,520 --> 02:04:02,240 Speaker 3: doctor Craner, I'll make you continue your thoughts. 2086 02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:06,520 Speaker 9: Yes. So I was talking about the first reason that 2087 02:04:06,640 --> 02:04:09,200 Speaker 9: I created concent in a contact, and it was in 2088 02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:12,560 Speaker 9: the context of the Black freedom movement. And notice I 2089 02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:15,360 Speaker 9: didn't say the civil rights movement. I know it was 2090 02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:19,680 Speaker 9: in the Black power phase of the Black freedom movement. 2091 02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,760 Speaker 9: Black Treatom movement had two phases, one the civil rights 2092 02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:27,440 Speaker 9: phase nineteen fifty five to sixty five and then the 2093 02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:31,280 Speaker 9: Black Power phase nineteen sixty five to nineteen seventy five. 2094 02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:35,440 Speaker 9: And I created Quncent in the Black power phase of 2095 02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:39,520 Speaker 9: the Black freedom movement. So the whole stress on freedom, 2096 02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:42,440 Speaker 9: we have to keep that in mind that this was 2097 02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:46,280 Speaker 9: a time Black people were struggling for freedom, and so 2098 02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:50,440 Speaker 9: I wanted the holiday to reflect that. And so the 2099 02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:54,040 Speaker 9: first thing I did was leave to create to contribute 2100 02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:57,839 Speaker 9: to that struggle. And I was saying that it became 2101 02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:02,120 Speaker 9: then first and active freedom, we've covered that. Second, I 2102 02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:05,760 Speaker 9: said it was issrument of freedom, active freedom, self determination. 2103 02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:09,000 Speaker 9: We didn't ask anyone, We're establish it as issuing of 2104 02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:12,640 Speaker 9: freedom and conscious raising. And third, it became a celebration 2105 02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:16,240 Speaker 9: of freedom. And that's when we, you know, celebrate ourselves 2106 02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:21,120 Speaker 9: by singing ourselves, dancing ourselves, narrative telling, the narratives, the 2107 02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:24,280 Speaker 9: sacred narratives we know is our history. Telling that on 2108 02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:27,880 Speaker 9: a local family level, but also on the world level. 2109 02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:31,360 Speaker 9: I mean, that's the beauty of that, to talk about ourselves, 2110 02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:35,960 Speaker 9: to focus on ourselves without excuse apology, right, because our 2111 02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:40,440 Speaker 9: struggle had always been two aspects to it, the struggle 2112 02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:43,840 Speaker 9: to be ourselves, to free ourselves. And we know we 2113 02:05:43,880 --> 02:05:46,640 Speaker 9: can't free ourselves if we don't be ourselves. But we 2114 02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:50,120 Speaker 9: can't fully be ourselves until we fully free ourselves. So 2115 02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:54,080 Speaker 9: it was always interrelated. So we celebrate and sing ourselves. 2116 02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:57,560 Speaker 9: You know that everyone knows the celebration part. But the 2117 02:05:57,680 --> 02:06:00,720 Speaker 9: last is the practice, and that is by pract the 2118 02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:05,040 Speaker 9: practice of freedom, and that is practicing in Guzo Saba. 2119 02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:09,520 Speaker 9: You know the seven principles that we say that if 2120 02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:12,520 Speaker 9: we could just practice some of the principles some of 2121 02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:15,280 Speaker 9: the time, especially most of the time, a whole new 2122 02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:19,280 Speaker 9: change would come into our lives. People always ask me, now, 2123 02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:22,040 Speaker 9: how can we make this a year long celebration by 2124 02:06:22,120 --> 02:06:25,960 Speaker 9: practice and the principles? I say every day, Raise up 2125 02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:30,760 Speaker 9: these principles, practice them, take them as moral imperative, something 2126 02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:34,720 Speaker 9: you have to do. Because unity is a moral value. 2127 02:06:34,960 --> 02:06:38,600 Speaker 9: To be in unity with your family, members, with your friends, 2128 02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:42,880 Speaker 9: right to be in unity, to struggle to bring a 2129 02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:47,200 Speaker 9: good world into being. That's a moral imperitive. That's a 2130 02:06:47,240 --> 02:06:50,560 Speaker 9: command from us from the beginning. Speak truth, do justice. 2131 02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:55,880 Speaker 9: All of these require what unity? You need unity, you 2132 02:06:55,960 --> 02:07:00,360 Speaker 9: need community, you need family, you need organization, and so 2133 02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:03,920 Speaker 9: practice these. The second reason I created Quncent in this 2134 02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:08,680 Speaker 9: context of the Black freedom movement was to reaffirm our 2135 02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:13,280 Speaker 9: rootedness in African culture. Now, why would I stress that, 2136 02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:17,640 Speaker 9: because as you know, during this period, we were trying 2137 02:07:17,640 --> 02:07:21,240 Speaker 9: to get back to black We wanted to find out 2138 02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,280 Speaker 9: what is the best of what it means to be 2139 02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:27,160 Speaker 9: African and human in the world, right, And so we 2140 02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:30,960 Speaker 9: say the first step forward is a step back. And 2141 02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,440 Speaker 9: we had to do that, as I've said so many times, 2142 02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:36,600 Speaker 9: because we were lifted out of our history and culture 2143 02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:40,160 Speaker 9: by the holocaust of enslavement and made a footnote and 2144 02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:44,960 Speaker 9: forgotten casualty in Europe's history. They made us absentees of 2145 02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:48,160 Speaker 9: our own history. I repeat, they made us absentees of 2146 02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:50,920 Speaker 9: our own history. Even though we were creating history. It 2147 02:07:50,960 --> 02:07:54,840 Speaker 9: wasn't for ourselves, it was for them. They finished us 2148 02:07:54,920 --> 02:07:58,400 Speaker 9: in their own formula. And so this was to break 2149 02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:01,160 Speaker 9: that out, to break that change, you know, and you 2150 02:08:01,240 --> 02:08:07,600 Speaker 9: remember our philosophic power Eater, which is an ongoing sentences 2151 02:08:07,640 --> 02:08:12,000 Speaker 9: of the best of African sensibility, thought, and practice in 2152 02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:15,880 Speaker 9: constant exchange with the world. We argue that the key 2153 02:08:16,040 --> 02:08:20,640 Speaker 9: crisis and challenging Black life is a cultural crisis again 2154 02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:24,000 Speaker 9: with this continent. And we say, until we free our 2155 02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:28,280 Speaker 9: hearts and minds, right, we can't be free people. We 2156 02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:33,880 Speaker 9: can't physically free ourselves, politically economically free ourselves. We must 2157 02:08:33,880 --> 02:08:38,720 Speaker 9: free ourselves culturally and thus has the right values, the 2158 02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:45,560 Speaker 9: values that are dignity affirming, life enhancing and world preserving. 2159 02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:49,560 Speaker 9: In the tradition of our ancestors, dignity affirming, we have 2160 02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:54,680 Speaker 9: to respect ourselves as images of the divine and as 2161 02:08:54,760 --> 02:08:58,200 Speaker 9: bearers of dignity and hearing word in its concepts we 2162 02:08:58,320 --> 02:09:01,000 Speaker 9: introduce first before anyone mean, I got proved of me. 2163 02:09:01,160 --> 02:09:03,320 Speaker 9: I did this case of work on it right, so 2164 02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:06,160 Speaker 9: we know that. But even before we knew that, we 2165 02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:09,480 Speaker 9: knew that we were equal to everybody else. But what 2166 02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,960 Speaker 9: we've done is scholars is just put this down here 2167 02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:15,600 Speaker 9: and say this is it. Here's where it comes from. 2168 02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:19,160 Speaker 9: This is the earliest understanding of it. Dignity affirm and 2169 02:09:19,160 --> 02:09:22,120 Speaker 9: respecting ourselves. Second, all of that is have to be 2170 02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:27,120 Speaker 9: life enhancing. Does it contribute to the protection and promotion 2171 02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:30,720 Speaker 9: of our lives? And if it doesn't do that, why 2172 02:09:30,720 --> 02:09:33,560 Speaker 9: do we have it? And so the other one in 2173 02:09:33,640 --> 02:09:38,440 Speaker 9: world preserving that African people, a world historical, a world 2174 02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:42,600 Speaker 9: encompassing community of people. And we have to think, as 2175 02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:47,280 Speaker 9: Hygie Malcolm old us in world encompassing ways, and we 2176 02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:50,080 Speaker 9: have to think about preserving the very earth we live on, 2177 02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:53,600 Speaker 9: and that's becoming more and more important as you see, 2178 02:09:53,680 --> 02:09:56,800 Speaker 9: not just in terms of the environment as you know, 2179 02:09:56,960 --> 02:10:00,520 Speaker 9: like trees and forests, but the environment is in terms 2180 02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:07,800 Speaker 9: of like how the European puts materials in our community, 2181 02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:13,920 Speaker 9: killing us, giving us premitu asthma, et cetera. And now 2182 02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:17,320 Speaker 9: they're putting the AI databases in that which are doctor too. 2183 02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:19,760 Speaker 9: But I don't want to get past what I'm saying. 2184 02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:22,040 Speaker 9: But I'm saying it had to be world preservant. We 2185 02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:24,160 Speaker 9: have to respect the world, and I would like to 2186 02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,560 Speaker 9: get back to that if we get a chance. And then, 2187 02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:29,600 Speaker 9: of course the third reason I created quins in the 2188 02:10:29,720 --> 02:10:32,560 Speaker 9: context of freedom is give us a time where we 2189 02:10:32,840 --> 02:10:35,800 Speaker 9: all over the world as African people could come together, 2190 02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:39,879 Speaker 9: reaffirm the bonds between us, and meditate on the awesome 2191 02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:42,640 Speaker 9: meaning of being African in the world. What does it 2192 02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:45,800 Speaker 9: mean to be the elders of humanity? What does it 2193 02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:48,480 Speaker 9: mean to be the fathers and mother is not only 2194 02:10:48,520 --> 02:10:52,360 Speaker 9: a humanity but of human civilization. To have introduced some 2195 02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:55,720 Speaker 9: of the basic disciplines of human knowledge in the now valley? 2196 02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:58,680 Speaker 9: What does that mean? That's a challenge to us to 2197 02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:03,560 Speaker 9: continue the struggle for excellence for achievement. Right, That's why 2198 02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:07,080 Speaker 9: one of the reasons we study our history is not 2199 02:11:07,160 --> 02:11:09,680 Speaker 9: only to learn this lessons and absolved his spirit and 2200 02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:16,160 Speaker 9: practice that morality of remembers, but also to identify, extract 2201 02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:22,040 Speaker 9: and emmilay the models of excellence and achievement of our ancestors. 2202 02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:25,320 Speaker 9: And so this gives us when we study thattween go 2203 02:11:25,680 --> 02:11:29,920 Speaker 9: and stress being African in the world, it also is 2204 02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:35,400 Speaker 9: a time and Africanism. Right, Quanta has united us a 2205 02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:44,800 Speaker 9: car more than any other celebration or culture event or 2206 02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:50,840 Speaker 9: philosophy of principle that I know. I mean, it's unique. 2207 02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:55,960 Speaker 9: It comes across religion, cuts across class, across political persuasion, 2208 02:11:56,600 --> 02:12:00,760 Speaker 9: cross generations. I mean it really unites important and it 2209 02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:03,440 Speaker 9: unites us in a Pan African way. This is a 2210 02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:05,560 Speaker 9: basis for Pan africansm This is one of the most 2211 02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:09,960 Speaker 9: important significance of this is that it gives us a 2212 02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:15,560 Speaker 9: time to reaffirm the beauty, the dignity, the sacredness, the soulfulness, 2213 02:12:15,560 --> 02:12:19,360 Speaker 9: the resisis and resource of our people. And finally, I 2214 02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:23,360 Speaker 9: created Quanta to introduce in Ghuzosaba, you know, and other 2215 02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:26,440 Speaker 9: community and values. And that say community and values. I 2216 02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:30,600 Speaker 9: mean values that stress and strengthen family, community and culture. 2217 02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:33,120 Speaker 9: And of course the hon Hindo on which the old 2218 02:12:33,160 --> 02:12:37,560 Speaker 9: holiday turn are the Ghuzusava the seventh principles. And that's 2219 02:12:37,640 --> 02:12:40,320 Speaker 9: one of the main reasons I created Quanta is to 2220 02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:43,960 Speaker 9: introduce these values. That's why the holiday had seven days. 2221 02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:47,800 Speaker 9: That's why I had to find a holiday in Africa 2222 02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:50,600 Speaker 9: that was like that, that that seventh days. And of 2223 02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:55,880 Speaker 9: course the scholarship led me do and course in uh 2224 02:12:56,320 --> 02:13:01,520 Speaker 9: in in uh Zulu land. Uh So if you if 2225 02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:07,040 Speaker 9: you look at a Zulu land and you see of 2226 02:13:07,120 --> 02:13:11,520 Speaker 9: course in course swarma, then you can see that this 2227 02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:15,600 Speaker 9: celebration of first truits is a motto for for it. 2228 02:13:15,640 --> 02:13:18,120 Speaker 9: And you know, this is why it's so sad to 2229 02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:22,520 Speaker 9: see people trying to you don't give the attribute attribute 2230 02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:26,600 Speaker 9: my creation to somebody else or something to the ancestors 2231 02:13:26,680 --> 02:13:30,120 Speaker 9: or a little girl, this person in this place, or that. 2232 02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:34,000 Speaker 9: They don't they don't have the basis for that, they 2233 02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:37,400 Speaker 9: don't have the intellectual basis, they don't the culture basis 2234 02:13:37,400 --> 02:13:40,200 Speaker 9: and inguish the base it and so it's just sad 2235 02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:42,320 Speaker 9: to see that. But you know, we can talk about 2236 02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:44,600 Speaker 9: that later because some of the things I think we 2237 02:13:44,680 --> 02:13:48,920 Speaker 9: need to do is always protect uh the integrity of 2238 02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:52,280 Speaker 9: the beauty and expansive meaning of Quanta. So those are 2239 02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:57,040 Speaker 9: the four basic reasons I created Quanta. I know it's 2240 02:13:57,120 --> 02:14:00,680 Speaker 9: much more extensive, but those are just out line of it. 2241 02:14:00,800 --> 02:14:04,320 Speaker 9: So the first reason, of course, to contribute to the movement. 2242 02:14:04,440 --> 02:14:07,400 Speaker 9: The second was to return us to our culture and 2243 02:14:07,480 --> 02:14:11,920 Speaker 9: to reaffirm that we rooted in African culture, not just 2244 02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:14,920 Speaker 9: African continental because that was important for us because we 2245 02:14:14,920 --> 02:14:17,680 Speaker 9: were dodging against it, but rooted in the best of 2246 02:14:17,680 --> 02:14:22,400 Speaker 9: our culture, continental and di Aspirin, ancient and modern. And 2247 02:14:22,600 --> 02:14:27,360 Speaker 9: third that it was to give us a time when 2248 02:14:27,400 --> 02:14:31,680 Speaker 9: we as African people could come together, reaffirm the bonds 2249 02:14:31,720 --> 02:14:34,960 Speaker 9: between us and meditate on the awesome meaning of being 2250 02:14:35,040 --> 02:14:38,600 Speaker 9: African in the world. And wanted to stress again how 2251 02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:42,920 Speaker 9: beautiful this is that all over the world, on every 2252 02:14:43,040 --> 02:14:46,960 Speaker 9: continent in the world, it will celebrate quind Sile. Not 2253 02:14:47,120 --> 02:14:50,520 Speaker 9: because it was advertised by the dominant society, but because 2254 02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:55,240 Speaker 9: Black people took it, valued it and used it to 2255 02:14:55,360 --> 02:15:00,280 Speaker 9: ground their lives, centered themselves and direct their lives toward 2256 02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:04,200 Speaker 9: good and expansive end. And finally I created Quantita. Of 2257 02:15:04,200 --> 02:15:08,240 Speaker 9: course to introduce the Ghuzotsava and to reaffirm the importance 2258 02:15:08,760 --> 02:15:12,280 Speaker 9: of them and other community and values, values that stress 2259 02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:19,160 Speaker 9: and strengthen family, community and culture. That's a definition of 2260 02:15:19,320 --> 02:15:22,480 Speaker 9: quant a celebration of family, community and culture. 2261 02:15:23,320 --> 02:15:25,400 Speaker 3: Got you twenty nine minutes away from the top now 2262 02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:27,600 Speaker 3: with doctor Milana krengk Doctor krek can you tell us 2263 02:15:27,600 --> 02:15:29,720 Speaker 3: about it in Google Solad? How did you come up 2264 02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:30,960 Speaker 3: with those principles? 2265 02:15:31,960 --> 02:15:39,520 Speaker 9: Again? Studying long term? You know, my specialization and college 2266 02:15:40,160 --> 02:15:46,240 Speaker 9: was African politics, African culture, African studies. And I asked 2267 02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:49,160 Speaker 9: myself in studying these cultures because I liked them when 2268 02:15:49,200 --> 02:15:51,920 Speaker 9: I learned them. It was a long long way from 2269 02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:57,080 Speaker 9: what Europe said, long way from the Tarzan Tarzan presentation, right, 2270 02:15:57,720 --> 02:16:00,080 Speaker 9: And I liked them, and I asked myself, how how 2271 02:16:00,080 --> 02:16:04,560 Speaker 9: all do these cultures ground themselves? What is the social 2272 02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:08,080 Speaker 9: glue that pose them together, gives them their few men, 2273 02:16:08,840 --> 02:16:14,240 Speaker 9: caring in the humanistic characteristic, their depths and beauty. And 2274 02:16:14,320 --> 02:16:17,680 Speaker 9: for me it turned out to be their collective values. 2275 02:16:18,400 --> 02:16:23,840 Speaker 9: There is the stress and strengthen family and community and 2276 02:16:23,880 --> 02:16:26,680 Speaker 9: you know, like you know usually we said in the 2277 02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:30,200 Speaker 9: movement for a long time, using em beauty he says, 2278 02:16:31,280 --> 02:16:33,800 Speaker 9: at the heart of community and values, of this stress 2279 02:16:33,840 --> 02:16:36,600 Speaker 9: and which is right? I am because we are and 2280 02:16:36,680 --> 02:16:40,640 Speaker 9: because we are therefore I am. But I wanted to 2281 02:16:40,720 --> 02:16:44,240 Speaker 9: say that I wanted to stress and we do and 2282 02:16:44,360 --> 02:16:51,520 Speaker 9: how relationship right that when we talk, just think every 2283 02:16:51,520 --> 02:16:56,000 Speaker 9: identity we have is a relationship. I'm a teacher, I'm 2284 02:16:56,040 --> 02:17:01,959 Speaker 9: a father, I'm a husband, a brand, all of these 2285 02:17:02,080 --> 02:17:05,560 Speaker 9: say relationship. That's not a name I can call myself 2286 02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:09,400 Speaker 9: that doesn't involve a relationship. And so we said, it's 2287 02:17:09,520 --> 02:17:14,160 Speaker 9: how we understood community and values, communal values, is that 2288 02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:19,440 Speaker 9: we say we are related and we relate. Therefore we are. 2289 02:17:20,480 --> 02:17:26,320 Speaker 9: We come into existence in relationship. I came into a 2290 02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:31,560 Speaker 9: relationship to my mother and father force, but also to 2291 02:17:31,720 --> 02:17:36,959 Speaker 9: my grandparents and great grandparents, et cetera, my ancestors. I 2292 02:17:37,040 --> 02:17:41,720 Speaker 9: come into being in relationship my sisters and brothers. I 2293 02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:46,680 Speaker 9: come in relationship to the future. I'm in relation to 2294 02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:49,360 Speaker 9: the past, I'm in relationship to the president, and I'm 2295 02:17:49,360 --> 02:17:53,240 Speaker 9: in a relationship to the future as an African person. Right, 2296 02:17:53,879 --> 02:17:57,400 Speaker 9: So what I wanted to do was to stress this 2297 02:17:57,640 --> 02:18:00,720 Speaker 9: togetherness what I call in my and I'd like to 2298 02:18:00,720 --> 02:18:04,000 Speaker 9: discuss that with you later. On the article for my 2299 02:18:05,160 --> 02:18:10,120 Speaker 9: annual Founder Funds of Message. As I say, it's a 2300 02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:14,480 Speaker 9: sacred togetherness. Yes, this is a sacred principle. When it's 2301 02:18:14,520 --> 02:18:20,720 Speaker 9: good and beautiful and mutually beneficial for everyone, that's sacred 2302 02:18:20,760 --> 02:18:24,400 Speaker 9: to us. And so the seven principles became. People say 2303 02:18:24,600 --> 02:18:28,440 Speaker 9: why seven? Well, because seven is a sacred you know 2304 02:18:28,879 --> 02:18:32,160 Speaker 9: word brought me a number in African culture and many 2305 02:18:32,360 --> 02:18:34,959 Speaker 9: African cultures, and so I thought that would be good. 2306 02:18:34,959 --> 02:18:38,120 Speaker 9: But also because it's manageable, right, and I wanted to 2307 02:18:38,200 --> 02:18:42,560 Speaker 9: stress that the sacredness of and also the manageability. Some people, 2308 02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:45,280 Speaker 9: so why didn't have ten? Well, you know we got ten, 2309 02:18:45,360 --> 02:18:47,440 Speaker 9: and other cultures you can say that. I mean, I 2310 02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:50,800 Speaker 9: have no problem with dan, but I wanted seven. At 2311 02:18:50,840 --> 02:18:53,360 Speaker 9: the seven spoke to it and you could manage it. 2312 02:18:53,600 --> 02:18:56,920 Speaker 9: And then I had to choose things that were most 2313 02:18:56,959 --> 02:18:59,920 Speaker 9: important to the movement. What is most important to the movement. 2314 02:19:00,120 --> 02:19:03,119 Speaker 9: Remember that I created this context of the Black freedom movement, 2315 02:19:03,440 --> 02:19:06,600 Speaker 9: and that's another thing. But this is an intellectual constructure. 2316 02:19:06,680 --> 02:19:10,560 Speaker 9: It's not an invention, right, It's an intellectual construction that 2317 02:19:10,760 --> 02:19:16,080 Speaker 9: takes years of study and of contemplation and reasoning about 2318 02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:19,080 Speaker 9: what is good, what is best to answer the questions 2319 02:19:19,240 --> 02:19:22,840 Speaker 9: before you ask me to answer them in the times 2320 02:19:22,879 --> 02:19:27,640 Speaker 9: that I'm great. So I put unity first, Umoja right, 2321 02:19:28,040 --> 02:19:33,120 Speaker 9: because without umoja unity, nothing else is possible. Life is 2322 02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:36,920 Speaker 9: not possible without unity of the male and female coming 2323 02:19:36,920 --> 02:19:41,000 Speaker 9: together with us, coming together, family is not possible. Without 2324 02:19:41,160 --> 02:19:45,200 Speaker 9: coming together, community is not possible. Friendship is not possible. 2325 02:19:45,440 --> 02:19:48,879 Speaker 9: So that becomes an important point, and the movement is 2326 02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:54,400 Speaker 9: not possible, and victory is not possible without our togetherness. 2327 02:19:54,800 --> 02:20:01,360 Speaker 9: Feeling the good life is not possible without emoja. Put 2328 02:20:03,560 --> 02:20:09,200 Speaker 9: emney last. That's the foundation. Because without faith, even if 2329 02:20:09,240 --> 02:20:13,840 Speaker 9: we start, we cannot continue. Even if we start to 2330 02:20:13,879 --> 02:20:16,600 Speaker 9: build a family, we lose faith in each other. We 2331 02:20:16,640 --> 02:20:19,879 Speaker 9: build friendship, we lose faith in each other. We lose 2332 02:20:19,959 --> 02:20:24,520 Speaker 9: a hope that is a companion of faith. Hey, how 2333 02:20:24,600 --> 02:20:29,200 Speaker 9: do how do we sustain our unity? I believe in 2334 02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:31,520 Speaker 9: our people. I believe in the people, in our organization. 2335 02:20:31,560 --> 02:20:36,680 Speaker 9: I believe in my house, Timorial, my wife, my companion, 2336 02:20:36,720 --> 02:20:40,080 Speaker 9: in all things good, beautiful and sacred. She believes in me. 2337 02:20:40,959 --> 02:20:44,720 Speaker 9: That's everlasting. That's it. If I hold onto that faith, 2338 02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:47,680 Speaker 9: that's it. That's the basis of the love. Faith. Love, 2339 02:20:48,200 --> 02:20:51,920 Speaker 9: love produces that faith producer love. Love produces faith, and 2340 02:20:51,959 --> 02:20:54,039 Speaker 9: so I think it's very important for us to see 2341 02:20:54,040 --> 02:20:57,959 Speaker 9: it self determination well, even if we're unified, and we're 2342 02:20:57,959 --> 02:21:01,000 Speaker 9: not unified, on the basis of our own culture, our 2343 02:21:01,040 --> 02:21:05,880 Speaker 9: own self, understanding our own self, definition, our own self, naming, 2344 02:21:06,000 --> 02:21:10,120 Speaker 9: our own self, creating our own self speaking, Hey, what 2345 02:21:10,240 --> 02:21:10,680 Speaker 9: do we have? 2346 02:21:11,640 --> 02:21:12,160 Speaker 4: What we have? 2347 02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:16,400 Speaker 9: A carckage of Europe run into Sweden asked how do 2348 02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:19,200 Speaker 9: we go forward? How do we raise our children? How 2349 02:21:19,240 --> 02:21:21,280 Speaker 9: do we what color should I have be? You know 2350 02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:23,920 Speaker 9: what I mean? We can't do that. You know, one time, 2351 02:21:24,920 --> 02:21:27,720 Speaker 9: you can remember Caul. One time we had to study 2352 02:21:27,800 --> 02:21:31,640 Speaker 9: by doctors Maimy and Kenneth Clark. We know many doctor 2353 02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:35,879 Speaker 9: Kennet Clark, that doctor Maimi Clark, his wife was very 2354 02:21:35,879 --> 02:21:40,440 Speaker 9: instrumental in the study that helped produce the nineteen fifty 2355 02:21:40,440 --> 02:21:48,400 Speaker 9: four UH decision that ended the segregation in the Brown 2356 02:21:48,440 --> 02:21:52,080 Speaker 9: decision in the segregation in education and then led to 2357 02:21:52,480 --> 02:21:56,080 Speaker 9: desegregation else play. And one of the arguments he made 2358 02:21:56,120 --> 02:21:58,240 Speaker 9: was he did a study on the children, and the 2359 02:21:58,360 --> 02:22:02,000 Speaker 9: children when they were asked what doll they want, the 2360 02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:05,240 Speaker 9: little girl said the yellow haired dog. That's who she 2361 02:22:05,320 --> 02:22:08,120 Speaker 9: thought was pretty irrelevant, right, that's who she wanted to be, Like, 2362 02:22:08,800 --> 02:22:12,120 Speaker 9: you can't use that anymore because now it's not just 2363 02:22:12,400 --> 02:22:15,760 Speaker 9: a little girl, it's a little boy and the father 2364 02:22:15,959 --> 02:22:19,560 Speaker 9: and the mother. So what's going on? Black people? We 2365 02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:21,680 Speaker 9: have to be self determined, not just in the way 2366 02:22:21,720 --> 02:22:24,280 Speaker 9: we call our air, but in the way we do 2367 02:22:24,400 --> 02:22:25,080 Speaker 9: our lives. 2368 02:22:26,920 --> 02:22:28,840 Speaker 3: Hold I thought right there, Doctor karank we gotta step 2369 02:22:28,840 --> 02:22:31,120 Speaker 3: aside for another short break. I'll let you finish your 2370 02:22:31,120 --> 02:22:33,280 Speaker 3: thought on the other side. Family, YouTube can join us, 2371 02:22:33,280 --> 02:22:35,520 Speaker 3: and we're speaking of doctor Koran. Can reach out to 2372 02:22:35,600 --> 02:22:37,760 Speaker 3: us at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy 2373 02:22:37,800 --> 02:22:40,480 Speaker 3: eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next. 2374 02:23:21,879 --> 02:23:22,359 Speaker 17: Fourteen. 2375 02:23:22,440 --> 02:23:31,640 Speaker 10: Come now back to the Carl Nelson Show. 2376 02:23:53,200 --> 02:23:55,400 Speaker 3: And Grand Rising family. Thanks for staying with us on 2377 02:23:55,520 --> 02:23:58,720 Speaker 3: this Wednesday morning. I guess there's ones I created dots, 2378 02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:02,280 Speaker 3: Milana Kranker. Quanta starts tomorrow, and tell us how we 2379 02:24:02,360 --> 02:24:05,320 Speaker 3: created Quanta and all the different aspects of Quanta before 2380 02:24:05,320 --> 02:24:07,160 Speaker 3: we go back to the element. Just remind you. Coming 2381 02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:10,040 Speaker 3: up tomorrow, we're going to speak with clinical psychologist doctor 2382 02:24:10,120 --> 02:24:12,720 Speaker 3: Jeromi foxing or in best for his best selling work 2383 02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:15,320 Speaker 3: book Addicted to White, The oppressed in league with the 2384 02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:18,480 Speaker 3: oppressor shame based alliance, Doctor Crank. Before we left, you 2385 02:24:18,520 --> 02:24:21,600 Speaker 3: were talking about the adultist Kenneth Clark and the hair. 2386 02:24:21,800 --> 02:24:24,520 Speaker 3: But before we get there, though, why did you choose 2387 02:24:24,760 --> 02:24:28,200 Speaker 3: Keith swahiely most of these words. That's left all of 2388 02:24:28,280 --> 02:24:31,360 Speaker 3: us scrambling to go to find out the real meanings 2389 02:24:31,400 --> 02:24:33,600 Speaker 3: behind some of these words. So if you can tell 2390 02:24:33,640 --> 02:24:37,160 Speaker 3: us about the key Swile aspect then because that's everything's 2391 02:24:37,200 --> 02:24:39,879 Speaker 3: based in Keith Swaily and then tell us and pick 2392 02:24:39,920 --> 02:24:43,720 Speaker 3: it up again with ango saba okay boe. 2393 02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:48,560 Speaker 9: Appreciate what you said saying it's an excellent question. Appreciate 2394 02:24:48,600 --> 02:24:52,200 Speaker 9: what you've said and answer by saying correctly, Karl, the 2395 02:24:52,320 --> 02:24:58,439 Speaker 9: reason I choose Swahili is because it's the most widely 2396 02:24:58,600 --> 02:25:05,480 Speaker 9: spread African language, and uh i, it's a Pan African language, 2397 02:25:05,840 --> 02:25:09,360 Speaker 9: and I had for years been Uguan for that to 2398 02:25:09,440 --> 02:25:15,120 Speaker 9: become not only our language end diaspa, but also the 2399 02:25:15,200 --> 02:25:20,440 Speaker 9: continent's major language. And finally, of course, the African Union 2400 02:25:20,520 --> 02:25:23,400 Speaker 9: began to use that as one of its major languages. 2401 02:25:23,480 --> 02:25:30,360 Speaker 9: And even now people have spread throughout African countries like 2402 02:25:30,440 --> 02:25:35,600 Speaker 9: South Africa, Gambia of making it part of the elementary education, 2403 02:25:36,120 --> 02:25:38,959 Speaker 9: early education, so it's really good to see that. And 2404 02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:43,400 Speaker 9: of course recently a few years ago, I got an 2405 02:25:43,480 --> 02:25:51,280 Speaker 9: award from International Swahili Organization UH for my work in it. 2406 02:25:51,800 --> 02:25:55,640 Speaker 9: I used to teach Swahili on TV early in the morning, 2407 02:25:55,800 --> 02:25:58,800 Speaker 9: seven am, right, I taught you the night school, and 2408 02:25:58,879 --> 02:26:02,160 Speaker 9: of course I taught you that in the university. And 2409 02:26:02,240 --> 02:26:06,160 Speaker 9: I think it's important because we're not I don't claim 2410 02:26:06,560 --> 02:26:08,840 Speaker 9: I'm not a person that goes and looks for my 2411 02:26:09,160 --> 02:26:12,760 Speaker 9: DNA with ethnic group, and I don't live other people 2412 02:26:12,760 --> 02:26:15,000 Speaker 9: for doing that. I think people should do that. It's 2413 02:26:15,200 --> 02:26:18,960 Speaker 9: part of re establishing our relationship, right, But I don't. 2414 02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:23,400 Speaker 9: I claim the whole of Africa as our homeland and heritage, 2415 02:26:23,400 --> 02:26:26,800 Speaker 9: our historical homeland and heritage, all the people my relatives, 2416 02:26:26,800 --> 02:26:30,720 Speaker 9: so I don't need a specific ethnic group all of 2417 02:26:30,720 --> 02:26:34,160 Speaker 9: the Africans of my relatives. So I wanted to build 2418 02:26:34,240 --> 02:26:37,640 Speaker 9: that in the context of Quanja. That's the Pan African 2419 02:26:37,640 --> 02:26:41,080 Speaker 9: dimension to it, right, So I'm stressing again the Pan 2420 02:26:41,200 --> 02:26:45,240 Speaker 9: African thing. And also I wanted to have an African 2421 02:26:45,320 --> 02:26:48,160 Speaker 9: language that we used. You know a lot of people 2422 02:26:48,240 --> 02:26:51,720 Speaker 9: have languages right that they use even if they come here. 2423 02:26:51,959 --> 02:26:55,920 Speaker 9: You know, they still speak their language, they have some relationship. 2424 02:26:56,040 --> 02:26:58,240 Speaker 9: They might not even know the whole language, but can't 2425 02:26:58,240 --> 02:27:01,520 Speaker 9: speak the whole language, but somebody he does, and somebody 2426 02:27:01,600 --> 02:27:04,680 Speaker 9: knows the word, you know. So I just think that 2427 02:27:04,760 --> 02:27:07,480 Speaker 9: it was important. I thought then and I continue to 2428 02:27:07,480 --> 02:27:12,720 Speaker 9: think it's important for us to reaffirm our Africanists in 2429 02:27:12,760 --> 02:27:16,000 Speaker 9: every way we can, and to have an African language, 2430 02:27:16,400 --> 02:27:19,200 Speaker 9: you know, that's important. Continent an African language as well 2431 02:27:19,240 --> 02:27:22,039 Speaker 9: as our own African language evonics, right, But I didn't 2432 02:27:22,040 --> 02:27:24,160 Speaker 9: even know that was an African language that later. I mean, 2433 02:27:24,400 --> 02:27:27,959 Speaker 9: scholarship shows that the people who did the work any bonics, 2434 02:27:27,959 --> 02:27:30,880 Speaker 9: showed that that was a language, a rule governed speech. 2435 02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:33,600 Speaker 9: So it's ours. It's an African language. But I met 2436 02:27:34,120 --> 02:27:37,920 Speaker 9: early African language on the continent, continent Africans, so that 2437 02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:40,760 Speaker 9: I thought that was part of creating the holiday, right, 2438 02:27:41,200 --> 02:27:45,280 Speaker 9: reaffirming our relationship. And remember now, for a long time, 2439 02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:47,720 Speaker 9: we didn't even want to identify with African. Now when 2440 02:27:47,720 --> 02:27:50,680 Speaker 9: we first came, we did because our oldest one of 2441 02:27:50,760 --> 02:27:53,760 Speaker 9: our oldest institution, if not the oldest institution. His name 2442 02:27:53,959 --> 02:27:59,320 Speaker 9: African methodistis church not colored people, right, not Negro but 2443 02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:04,160 Speaker 9: African right. But the European, you know, drove us away 2444 02:28:04,160 --> 02:28:08,560 Speaker 9: from that, you know, by these Tarzanic presentations of Africa right. 2445 02:28:08,680 --> 02:28:11,840 Speaker 9: So our thing was to get back to the source, 2446 02:28:11,920 --> 02:28:14,600 Speaker 9: return to the source, get back to black and that 2447 02:28:14,760 --> 02:28:17,480 Speaker 9: was part of it. And you know it, really it 2448 02:28:17,520 --> 02:28:21,120 Speaker 9: is good for people to learn. And another thing, the 2449 02:28:21,240 --> 02:28:25,320 Speaker 9: European writes book called books with Dummies. We should never 2450 02:28:25,440 --> 02:28:28,960 Speaker 9: do that. We should never assume Black people can't learn. 2451 02:28:29,800 --> 02:28:32,400 Speaker 9: We're the first learners. We're the first human learners, right, 2452 02:28:32,760 --> 02:28:36,240 Speaker 9: So we can't claim such a magnificent civilization. And every 2453 02:28:36,240 --> 02:28:39,200 Speaker 9: time we talk about ourselves, we talk about ourselves in diminished, 2454 02:28:39,200 --> 02:28:43,240 Speaker 9: our pathological ways. We was real firm, our dignity, our beauty, 2455 02:28:43,280 --> 02:28:48,400 Speaker 9: our greatness, a capacity to create progress, to make history, 2456 02:28:49,200 --> 02:28:52,000 Speaker 9: and to open up a new future for not only us, 2457 02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:54,959 Speaker 9: but for the whole world. So that's that's how I think. 2458 02:28:55,080 --> 02:28:59,560 Speaker 9: And and and it's global. And and one of another 2459 02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:03,680 Speaker 9: thing is I chose Swahili and another African language, and 2460 02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:07,800 Speaker 9: I use other African language like Zulie. I used them 2461 02:29:08,200 --> 02:29:13,520 Speaker 9: because they contain communal concepts I need. I needed those 2462 02:29:13,560 --> 02:29:17,160 Speaker 9: communal concepts I needed. I knew it Ujima, I needed 2463 02:29:17,200 --> 02:29:22,160 Speaker 9: these that are specifically from Africa, and that stressed the 2464 02:29:22,280 --> 02:29:27,959 Speaker 9: Communitearian aspect of our lives, the collective uh aspect of 2465 02:29:28,000 --> 02:29:30,320 Speaker 9: our lives. You know, one of the things about Nina 2466 02:29:31,680 --> 02:29:36,360 Speaker 9: Hydia Malcolm xicin Nina Martin Luther King, doctor Martin Luther King, 2467 02:29:36,879 --> 02:29:40,440 Speaker 9: is that they stressed out togetherness. Usually doctor King did 2468 02:29:40,440 --> 02:29:43,039 Speaker 9: it on a world level, but he also did it 2469 02:29:43,080 --> 02:29:46,800 Speaker 9: on a racial level, that we needed unity. He always 2470 02:29:46,840 --> 02:29:49,360 Speaker 9: talked about that all of our people, that me and 2471 02:29:49,480 --> 02:29:53,200 Speaker 9: mclaver Thom talked about us in terms of being a community, 2472 02:29:53,240 --> 02:29:57,400 Speaker 9: a world historical people, right, and sometimes when we talk 2473 02:29:57,440 --> 02:30:00,000 Speaker 9: about us that we talk about ourselves in ghetto wives 2474 02:30:00,040 --> 02:30:03,000 Speaker 9: pathological terms, and we don't need to do that. Some 2475 02:30:03,000 --> 02:30:05,560 Speaker 9: people do that, not all people, but enough for us 2476 02:30:05,560 --> 02:30:08,720 Speaker 9: to be concerned about that. We have to see ourselves 2477 02:30:08,959 --> 02:30:13,240 Speaker 9: as a world historical people. Now a Hydi, Malcolm said. Now, 2478 02:30:13,560 --> 02:30:17,039 Speaker 9: one of the things I noticed about Swahilia, again talking 2479 02:30:17,080 --> 02:30:20,840 Speaker 9: about an expansive identity that comes from these languages, is 2480 02:30:20,879 --> 02:30:25,280 Speaker 9: that we have in Swahili two words for people. One 2481 02:30:25,320 --> 02:30:28,640 Speaker 9: is watch to, which means human being, and the second 2482 02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:31,760 Speaker 9: one is wild and wingle, which means world being. So 2483 02:30:31,879 --> 02:30:36,680 Speaker 9: it shows us an expanded identity of ourselves to be 2484 02:30:36,760 --> 02:30:40,320 Speaker 9: a world being. That's a responsibility for the whole earth. 2485 02:30:41,280 --> 02:30:44,400 Speaker 9: We're supposed to care for the earth, and we're supposed 2486 02:30:44,440 --> 02:30:46,879 Speaker 9: to be good relatives to the earth. You remember when 2487 02:30:46,879 --> 02:30:50,720 Speaker 9: I was talking earlier about relationships, Well, out of that 2488 02:30:50,879 --> 02:30:55,800 Speaker 9: comes our imperitive and ethical imperitive. That's a moral obligation, 2489 02:30:56,000 --> 02:31:01,280 Speaker 9: ethical imperitive, moral obligation, our moral obligation to be good relatives, 2490 02:31:01,440 --> 02:31:05,480 Speaker 9: good relatives to our families, to our friends, and even 2491 02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:09,120 Speaker 9: to the earth. To be relative, a good relative to water, 2492 02:31:09,640 --> 02:31:14,520 Speaker 9: to animals, to forests, and feel right to the earth itself. 2493 02:31:14,959 --> 02:31:17,240 Speaker 9: That's that's a whole different kind of concept. I can't 2494 02:31:17,600 --> 02:31:21,400 Speaker 9: I can't do just to it speaking English. I need 2495 02:31:21,440 --> 02:31:24,000 Speaker 9: a Swahili word for that. I need Zulu for that, 2496 02:31:24,120 --> 02:31:26,400 Speaker 9: I need your but for that, I need other African 2497 02:31:26,440 --> 02:31:30,640 Speaker 9: languages for that. Right that helps me to conceptualize right, 2498 02:31:31,440 --> 02:31:34,680 Speaker 9: I'm a serious scholar, you know. That's just it's like 2499 02:31:34,720 --> 02:31:37,160 Speaker 9: what di I have said, I should say that not 2500 02:31:37,320 --> 02:31:40,600 Speaker 9: a sheckout to that DV said about the difference between 2501 02:31:40,720 --> 02:31:44,760 Speaker 9: him studying Egypt as a scholar and the Dilo tips. 2502 02:31:45,160 --> 02:31:48,000 Speaker 9: I just wanted to take trips to it Egypt and 2503 02:31:48,320 --> 02:31:51,960 Speaker 9: talk about things that are not so like we moved it. Uh, 2504 02:31:52,120 --> 02:31:56,680 Speaker 9: the pyramid blocks with the mind, all that kind of limitation. 2505 02:31:57,640 --> 02:32:02,360 Speaker 9: There's a mathematics there, right, there's a physics there. There's 2506 02:32:02,360 --> 02:32:05,080 Speaker 9: a trigger knowledge there. We have to find it. We 2507 02:32:05,200 --> 02:32:07,199 Speaker 9: have to hold it up and use it as models. 2508 02:32:07,520 --> 02:32:12,279 Speaker 9: And so I say go back to Africa and not Hydimacam. 2509 02:32:12,320 --> 02:32:14,960 Speaker 9: You know, I'm very employenced by him. And he said, 2510 02:32:15,360 --> 02:32:17,600 Speaker 9: we've got to go back to Africa. And even we 2511 02:32:17,640 --> 02:32:21,240 Speaker 9: don't go physically, we have to go back philosophically and culturally. 2512 02:32:21,800 --> 02:32:24,920 Speaker 9: And I have done that, and that's what is important 2513 02:32:25,000 --> 02:32:27,720 Speaker 9: to me. I'm an African person. I'm always going to 2514 02:32:27,800 --> 02:32:30,760 Speaker 9: come into the room, sit at the table at African. 2515 02:32:30,879 --> 02:32:34,120 Speaker 9: I'm not gonna erase my identity. I'm not going to 2516 02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:36,920 Speaker 9: lose it in a larger category. Even when I do 2517 02:32:36,959 --> 02:32:39,640 Speaker 9: a larger category, I'm going to always have it African. 2518 02:32:39,840 --> 02:32:43,560 Speaker 9: If I say human, I mean human as African, because 2519 02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:47,440 Speaker 9: I believe not just Africans but all people that for this, 2520 02:32:48,360 --> 02:32:51,640 Speaker 9: each people and culture is a unique and equally valid 2521 02:32:52,080 --> 02:32:55,360 Speaker 9: and valuable way of being human in the world. This 2522 02:32:55,560 --> 02:32:58,240 Speaker 9: is my way of being human. African. I don't need 2523 02:32:58,280 --> 02:33:00,400 Speaker 9: to explain that away. I don't need to just the 2524 02:33:00,480 --> 02:33:04,600 Speaker 9: buy under fear right. And I come to bring my 2525 02:33:05,240 --> 02:33:09,160 Speaker 9: special culture truth, to speak it and to use it 2526 02:33:10,080 --> 02:33:14,920 Speaker 9: right in ways that helped to reconceive and reconstruct this 2527 02:33:15,120 --> 02:33:19,560 Speaker 9: country and the world in the most beautiful, expansive but 2528 02:33:19,720 --> 02:33:23,360 Speaker 9: really we say, in the most ethically effective and expansive ways. 2529 02:33:24,959 --> 02:33:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, add away from the top. Now you talked about 2530 02:33:27,720 --> 02:33:30,480 Speaker 3: the Angusasaba, you dealt with the first person. Are you 2531 02:33:30,560 --> 02:33:32,600 Speaker 3: still were on the first principles? So I'll let you 2532 02:33:32,680 --> 02:33:33,440 Speaker 3: continue on that. 2533 02:33:34,520 --> 02:33:37,360 Speaker 9: And I was saying the second principle was and I 2534 02:33:37,400 --> 02:33:42,880 Speaker 9: really would like to share some of my UH Annual 2535 02:33:42,879 --> 02:33:46,560 Speaker 9: founders crins of message with you. And when I finished this, 2536 02:33:46,640 --> 02:33:49,560 Speaker 9: I'll finish this real quick so I can listen into that. 2537 02:33:49,879 --> 02:33:52,080 Speaker 9: So you know, if I look at the principles of 2538 02:33:52,200 --> 02:33:55,400 Speaker 9: self determination, I was saying, how could we be free 2539 02:33:55,560 --> 02:33:59,160 Speaker 9: and not be self terminated? Self determination means so more 2540 02:33:59,240 --> 02:34:02,680 Speaker 9: you mean to strive for and maintain units in the family, community, nation, 2541 02:34:03,160 --> 02:34:06,640 Speaker 9: and race right and by extension, the whole world, because 2542 02:34:06,680 --> 02:34:09,960 Speaker 9: we're world historical people, world and Thompson people. The second 2543 02:34:09,959 --> 02:34:14,680 Speaker 9: self determination means to define ourselves, to name ourselves, right, 2544 02:34:14,760 --> 02:34:17,560 Speaker 9: to create for ourselves and to speak for ourselves. We 2545 02:34:17,640 --> 02:34:20,840 Speaker 9: have to be able to do that, otherwise we're not 2546 02:34:20,959 --> 02:34:25,560 Speaker 9: fool people. Right. We have to be able to express ourself, 2547 02:34:26,040 --> 02:34:29,560 Speaker 9: to be confident in ourselves, to be confident that there 2548 02:34:29,600 --> 02:34:34,440 Speaker 9: is no idea in humanity that cannot be expressed through 2549 02:34:34,560 --> 02:34:38,560 Speaker 9: and in African culture that's not I mean, we got 2550 02:34:38,600 --> 02:34:41,199 Speaker 9: to take that position, right. I don't care what science 2551 02:34:41,440 --> 02:34:45,080 Speaker 9: it is, I don't care what subject it is. African 2552 02:34:45,240 --> 02:34:48,360 Speaker 9: culture is sufficient in itself and we can borrow from 2553 02:34:48,400 --> 02:34:51,480 Speaker 9: the world, but we can't be borrowed by the world. 2554 02:34:51,800 --> 02:34:55,080 Speaker 9: We can absorb, but we must not be absorbed. We 2555 02:34:55,200 --> 02:35:00,000 Speaker 9: must have our own particularity in the face of universe. 2556 02:35:01,080 --> 02:35:03,959 Speaker 9: So all great messages, I've said this before, I want 2557 02:35:04,000 --> 02:35:06,680 Speaker 9: to say it again. All great messages, whether it's some 2558 02:35:06,720 --> 02:35:09,800 Speaker 9: of the religion, or whether it's Kawe the philosophy or 2559 02:35:09,840 --> 02:35:14,320 Speaker 9: the principles Duso Saba, they have both a particular and 2560 02:35:14,480 --> 02:35:18,720 Speaker 9: universal character to us. They start in a certain people 2561 02:35:19,200 --> 02:35:23,200 Speaker 9: like Christianity or Judaism or Buddhism or Hinduism, or the 2562 02:35:23,320 --> 02:35:28,800 Speaker 9: Native American culture, maya religion or Hopey. They start in 2563 02:35:28,840 --> 02:35:32,840 Speaker 9: the people, but they not only speak to the best 2564 02:35:32,879 --> 02:35:36,680 Speaker 9: of what it means to be that people for us African, 2565 02:35:37,440 --> 02:35:39,600 Speaker 9: but also the best of what it means to be human. 2566 02:35:40,400 --> 02:35:44,199 Speaker 9: So when we talk about self determination, it's an African value, 2567 02:35:44,560 --> 02:35:47,520 Speaker 9: but it's so human value. But we can't just say 2568 02:35:47,520 --> 02:35:51,640 Speaker 9: it's human. And one of the things that's really bothered 2569 02:35:51,720 --> 02:35:56,280 Speaker 9: some to me sometimes is how the dominant society makes 2570 02:35:56,360 --> 02:36:00,320 Speaker 9: some Africans always have to say Quansas for everybody known, 2571 02:36:00,440 --> 02:36:04,640 Speaker 9: quasa for black people. Other people can learn from it, right, 2572 02:36:05,120 --> 02:36:08,280 Speaker 9: and it can be for them, But guess what it's 2573 02:36:08,280 --> 02:36:12,560 Speaker 9: for African people. Nobody tried to say Judaism is not Judaism. 2574 02:36:13,760 --> 02:36:16,360 Speaker 9: Nobody's trying to say single Dama is not single Toma, 2575 02:36:16,720 --> 02:36:19,880 Speaker 9: not for the Mexican. Nobody's trying to say Chinese New 2576 02:36:20,000 --> 02:36:23,440 Speaker 9: Year is not for Chinese. Oh, it's what we don't 2577 02:36:23,480 --> 02:36:26,480 Speaker 9: have to explain that, right, But for some reason they 2578 02:36:26,560 --> 02:36:31,039 Speaker 9: make us want to say something that lets them in. 2579 02:36:31,200 --> 02:36:34,760 Speaker 9: That's why they change the movement from the Black freedom 2580 02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:37,200 Speaker 9: movement to the civil rights. Then everybody can get off 2581 02:36:37,240 --> 02:36:40,720 Speaker 9: in there, right, but it does something to us. This 2582 02:36:40,920 --> 02:36:45,879 Speaker 9: is our contribution to expanding the realm of human freedom. 2583 02:36:46,160 --> 02:36:48,720 Speaker 9: Not only in this country but the whole world, and 2584 02:36:48,760 --> 02:36:50,880 Speaker 9: we have to understand it. But let me go to 2585 02:36:50,879 --> 02:36:54,640 Speaker 9: the names Ujima. Can we really practice who moja without 2586 02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:58,440 Speaker 9: practicing Fujima or moji? Becomes simpler principle if it doesn't 2587 02:36:58,440 --> 02:37:00,600 Speaker 9: become a practice, and if it's real, it must become 2588 02:37:00,640 --> 02:37:05,880 Speaker 9: a practice and it becomes a practice in Ujima. Working together, right, right, 2589 02:37:06,360 --> 02:37:09,840 Speaker 9: that's what we must do, work together to build and 2590 02:37:09,879 --> 02:37:13,080 Speaker 9: maintain our community together and make our brothers and sisters 2591 02:37:13,120 --> 02:37:16,480 Speaker 9: problems our problem and to solve them together. And said 2592 02:37:16,480 --> 02:37:19,959 Speaker 9: oo Jaman for opertyep economy to be able to maintain 2593 02:37:20,000 --> 02:37:22,400 Speaker 9: our sorece shops and other business and the problem from there, 2594 02:37:22,520 --> 02:37:26,200 Speaker 9: this is the product principle. Oh what shared work and 2595 02:37:26,320 --> 02:37:30,400 Speaker 9: shared well us we must be able to enjoy the 2596 02:37:30,520 --> 02:37:34,480 Speaker 9: wealth we create in this country despite of capitalism. We 2597 02:37:34,600 --> 02:37:39,000 Speaker 9: must create free space where and transform the society where 2598 02:37:39,040 --> 02:37:42,160 Speaker 9: people have an inclusive and shared good for the work 2599 02:37:42,240 --> 02:37:46,000 Speaker 9: they do. Right, that's just basic. Right And then of 2600 02:37:46,040 --> 02:37:49,920 Speaker 9: course Nia, you know, to make our collective vocation the 2601 02:37:49,920 --> 02:37:53,680 Speaker 9: building and developing our community in order to restore our 2602 02:37:53,720 --> 02:37:57,080 Speaker 9: people to their judicial greatness. And we know that greatness 2603 02:37:57,160 --> 02:38:01,320 Speaker 9: is not simply knowing knowledge and technology and all that, 2604 02:38:01,600 --> 02:38:04,760 Speaker 9: because who see are the sacred text of ancient agent said, 2605 02:38:05,120 --> 02:38:07,920 Speaker 9: the wives are known by their wisdom, but the greater 2606 02:38:08,040 --> 02:38:11,560 Speaker 9: known by their good deeds. So we want greatness by 2607 02:38:11,640 --> 02:38:15,600 Speaker 9: doing good deeds. Doing good deeds in every field you in. 2608 02:38:15,920 --> 02:38:18,199 Speaker 9: So if it's in science good, it's a medicine good, 2609 02:38:18,360 --> 02:38:22,120 Speaker 9: if it's in teaching good, if it's just serving good. Right, 2610 02:38:22,360 --> 02:38:27,760 Speaker 9: But do service for the people, even Nana, uh that, 2611 02:38:27,920 --> 02:38:30,279 Speaker 9: Martin Luther King said, everybody can be great because everybody 2612 02:38:30,320 --> 02:38:34,600 Speaker 9: can serve, So serve right. But let your knowledge be 2613 02:38:34,720 --> 02:38:37,920 Speaker 9: in service of the people, right, and let it be 2614 02:38:38,080 --> 02:38:40,720 Speaker 9: in service of making a new world, as nan a 2615 02:38:41,080 --> 02:38:44,480 Speaker 9: doctor Mary McLeod Bethune told us, see ourselves as world 2616 02:38:45,040 --> 02:38:50,160 Speaker 9: encompassing people, she said, and realize that our task is 2617 02:38:50,200 --> 02:38:53,720 Speaker 9: to remake the world. It is nothing less than this, right, 2618 02:38:54,240 --> 02:38:57,680 Speaker 9: and then we move from that to goomber to do 2619 02:38:57,720 --> 02:38:58,000 Speaker 9: all that. 2620 02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:01,600 Speaker 3: We got to step aside a few moments. I'll let 2621 02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:04,080 Speaker 3: you tackle comb. But when we get back, the station's 2622 02:39:04,120 --> 02:39:06,720 Speaker 3: got to identify themselves down the line per the FCC, 2623 02:39:07,120 --> 02:39:09,080 Speaker 3: two minutes away from the top of the family. I 2624 02:39:09,120 --> 02:39:12,520 Speaker 3: guess this, doctor Alana Krenga Creative QUANSA, got a question 2625 02:39:12,600 --> 02:39:14,400 Speaker 3: for him? Reach out to us at eight hundred four 2626 02:39:14,520 --> 02:39:17,240 Speaker 3: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take you 2627 02:39:17,280 --> 02:39:18,320 Speaker 3: phone calls. 2628 02:39:17,920 --> 02:39:55,600 Speaker 14: Next fourteen fifty w O L fifteen w O L 2629 02:39:56,080 --> 02:39:59,360 Speaker 14: Washington d C ninety five point nine W two four 2630 02:39:59,440 --> 02:40:02,520 Speaker 14: zero d J w M M j H D three 2631 02:40:02,600 --> 02:40:06,360 Speaker 14: w d C j f m h D three at 2632 02:40:06,360 --> 02:40:10,400 Speaker 14: worldwide at w O L DC news dot com. 2633 02:40:10,440 --> 02:40:13,320 Speaker 18: The views and opinions expressed in this program are those 2634 02:40:13,360 --> 02:40:16,119 Speaker 18: of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect 2635 02:40:16,120 --> 02:40:19,520 Speaker 18: the views of Urban One Incorporated, Radio One or. 2636 02:40:19,480 --> 02:40:21,360 Speaker 10: Any of its subsidiary companies. 2637 02:40:26,600 --> 02:40:30,040 Speaker 1: You're fucking with the most Submission, the Carl Nelson Show, 2638 02:40:31,360 --> 02:40:33,599 Speaker 1: You're with the Most submiss. 2639 02:40:56,320 --> 02:40:58,520 Speaker 3: And Grand Rising Family. Thanks for staying with us on 2640 02:40:58,560 --> 02:41:01,320 Speaker 3: this Wednesday morning with I guess the doctor Milana Krenka 2641 02:41:01,360 --> 02:41:04,840 Speaker 3: the Creative Quanta. Before we left, doctor Krengo's running down 2642 02:41:04,840 --> 02:41:07,959 Speaker 3: these seven principles, then Google Saba of Quanta. I think 2643 02:41:08,000 --> 02:41:12,080 Speaker 3: we stopped at Comba creativity, okay. 2644 02:41:11,920 --> 02:41:14,080 Speaker 9: Boy, and then the last one is and then I 2645 02:41:14,080 --> 02:41:17,920 Speaker 9: would like to go to my and you found its quantimistic. 2646 02:41:18,240 --> 02:41:20,360 Speaker 9: But the last one of course, is faith, and we 2647 02:41:20,480 --> 02:41:23,560 Speaker 9: talked about that as a basis to believe with all 2648 02:41:23,600 --> 02:41:27,120 Speaker 9: our hearts in our people. Notice we start with the people, 2649 02:41:27,560 --> 02:41:31,039 Speaker 9: and our people are parents, our teachers, our leaders, and 2650 02:41:31,160 --> 02:41:35,880 Speaker 9: the righteousness and victory of our struggle. That's very important 2651 02:41:35,959 --> 02:41:38,760 Speaker 9: to believe in our people. Right. You know, we can 2652 02:41:38,800 --> 02:41:40,680 Speaker 9: say I believe in myself, but if you don't believe 2653 02:41:40,680 --> 02:41:43,000 Speaker 9: in your people, you don't really believe in yourself. And 2654 02:41:43,000 --> 02:41:44,800 Speaker 9: if you don't believe in your people, we can't have 2655 02:41:44,879 --> 02:41:48,840 Speaker 9: a moja. We can't have self determination by ourself. That's 2656 02:41:48,840 --> 02:41:53,120 Speaker 9: just voga individualism imagining. You can have a culture by yourself. 2657 02:41:53,200 --> 02:41:57,160 Speaker 9: You have a culture inside a people, a people producers 2658 02:41:57,200 --> 02:42:00,760 Speaker 9: a culture. And as I said before, the great challenge 2659 02:42:00,760 --> 02:42:06,080 Speaker 9: to us is the culture crisis and challenge. The great 2660 02:42:06,320 --> 02:42:09,480 Speaker 9: crisis and challenge for us as a culture crisis and 2661 02:42:09,560 --> 02:42:13,640 Speaker 9: challenge how to break the monopoly that the pressor has 2662 02:42:13,680 --> 02:42:16,360 Speaker 9: on so many of our mind. We say, until we 2663 02:42:16,520 --> 02:42:19,879 Speaker 9: break the monopoly that the pressure has on so many 2664 02:42:19,879 --> 02:42:24,520 Speaker 9: of our mind, liberation is not only impossible, it's unthinkable. 2665 02:42:24,560 --> 02:42:28,200 Speaker 9: You don't even see it as a rejected possibility. You 2666 02:42:28,200 --> 02:42:30,879 Speaker 9: don't even consider it. And so I think it's very 2667 02:42:30,879 --> 02:42:34,200 Speaker 9: important for it. And so Panza, I just want to say, 2668 02:42:34,280 --> 02:42:37,119 Speaker 9: Quantita gives us a chance to talk about this. You see, 2669 02:42:37,200 --> 02:42:40,200 Speaker 9: it frames a whole different kind of conversation, right, It's 2670 02:42:40,240 --> 02:42:45,720 Speaker 9: a conversation that's like expansive, right, and it's beautiful and 2671 02:42:45,760 --> 02:42:49,879 Speaker 9: it's reaffirming for black people. Nothing negative here, right, nothing 2672 02:42:49,920 --> 02:42:55,040 Speaker 9: about black people this or that. Black people rising grand 2673 02:42:55,120 --> 02:42:57,840 Speaker 9: rising as you say. Oh, and so I wanted to 2674 02:42:58,040 --> 02:43:01,119 Speaker 9: say that my annual Every year I give an annual 2675 02:43:01,360 --> 02:43:05,440 Speaker 9: Founder's Quanta message, and this year this title practicing the 2676 02:43:05,520 --> 02:43:10,200 Speaker 9: Seven Principles in dimly lit times, lifting up the light 2677 02:43:10,400 --> 02:43:14,160 Speaker 9: and hearing the dawn and others start out by wishing 2678 02:43:14,520 --> 02:43:19,120 Speaker 9: for African people throughout the world. African community chanties our quanta, 2679 02:43:19,560 --> 02:43:21,920 Speaker 9: Happy Quncer. That's why he lived again. It is our 2680 02:43:22,040 --> 02:43:27,959 Speaker 9: quancett and we bring and send greetings of celebration, solidarity, 2681 02:43:28,360 --> 02:43:32,080 Speaker 9: and continuous struggle for an inclusive and shared good in 2682 02:43:32,120 --> 02:43:35,879 Speaker 9: the world. And we also wish, especially for our people 2683 02:43:36,280 --> 02:43:39,320 Speaker 9: and for all other press and struggling peoples of the world, 2684 02:43:39,800 --> 02:43:44,720 Speaker 9: the shared and indivisible goods of freedom, justice and peace, 2685 02:43:45,320 --> 02:43:48,720 Speaker 9: which can only be achieved and enjoyed and passed on 2686 02:43:49,080 --> 02:43:54,680 Speaker 9: to the future through righteous and relentless struggle. Also in 2687 02:43:54,760 --> 02:43:59,440 Speaker 9: the Kawd of Mantan harvest celebration tradition of our honored ancestors, 2688 02:43:59,760 --> 02:44:03,640 Speaker 9: we wish for African people all and all the peoples 2689 02:44:03,640 --> 02:44:07,480 Speaker 9: of the world all the good that Heaven grants, the 2690 02:44:07,560 --> 02:44:11,160 Speaker 9: earth produces, and the waters bring forth from their death. 2691 02:44:11,800 --> 02:44:16,560 Speaker 9: Oh chap, I say heady again. This year's annual theme 2692 02:44:16,680 --> 02:44:20,840 Speaker 9: is practicing the civil principle in dimly lit times lighting 2693 02:44:21,120 --> 02:44:24,240 Speaker 9: lifting up the light hair in the dawn. So what 2694 02:44:24,280 --> 02:44:27,920 Speaker 9: does it mean dimly lit time? To speak of dimly 2695 02:44:27,959 --> 02:44:30,440 Speaker 9: lit times is to talk of the thick fog of 2696 02:44:30,560 --> 02:44:35,720 Speaker 9: falsehood and fear, chaos and confusion and uncertainty that has 2697 02:44:35,800 --> 02:44:40,240 Speaker 9: emerged in this historical moment and has settled heavily over 2698 02:44:40,280 --> 02:44:43,440 Speaker 9: this land and our community. Indeed, they to speak of 2699 02:44:43,520 --> 02:44:47,800 Speaker 9: the rise of authoritarian and anti democratic governments and practice it, 2700 02:44:48,240 --> 02:44:53,760 Speaker 9: and an increased levels of mean spiritedness, human alienation from others, 2701 02:44:54,120 --> 02:44:59,480 Speaker 9: an official and unofficial violence of various kinds, including livestream 2702 02:44:59,600 --> 02:45:03,279 Speaker 9: genus side. And then to speak two of the giving 2703 02:45:03,400 --> 02:45:05,960 Speaker 9: of the light and life of the heart and mind. 2704 02:45:06,400 --> 02:45:10,480 Speaker 9: Imagine that dimming the light and life of the heart 2705 02:45:10,520 --> 02:45:15,240 Speaker 9: and the mind. That is to say, cultivation of narrow 2706 02:45:15,400 --> 02:45:21,160 Speaker 9: and uncritical mind and constricted a constricted heart, which embrace 2707 02:45:21,320 --> 02:45:26,080 Speaker 9: illusions as real life, embracing illusions as real life, and 2708 02:45:27,040 --> 02:45:30,640 Speaker 9: creating a diminished capacity for the people to fight through 2709 02:45:30,680 --> 02:45:35,959 Speaker 9: the fall, to rast rightfully reason, and to conscientiously demonstrate 2710 02:45:36,480 --> 02:45:42,160 Speaker 9: moral sensitivity to others, especially those who are different and vulnerable, 2711 02:45:42,640 --> 02:45:45,920 Speaker 9: those who we can can't defend themselves. That's who people 2712 02:45:46,280 --> 02:45:50,600 Speaker 9: ounce on, right, That's Trump, That's that in y'aw. All 2713 02:45:50,680 --> 02:45:54,000 Speaker 9: of these people pounce on the different and the vulnerable, 2714 02:45:54,440 --> 02:45:58,480 Speaker 9: but they don't act by themselves. The people support them. Right. 2715 02:45:59,200 --> 02:46:03,680 Speaker 9: And when we talk about this about tarrying the dawn, 2716 02:46:04,440 --> 02:46:07,200 Speaker 9: we talk about what none of doctor Martin Luther King 2717 02:46:07,720 --> 02:46:12,000 Speaker 9: asserted during his time. He said, we'll confronted with the 2718 02:46:12,040 --> 02:46:15,000 Speaker 9: fierce urgency of now. That's a beautiful phrase if you 2719 02:46:15,040 --> 02:46:18,879 Speaker 9: listen to the firce urgency of now, and this, he said, 2720 02:46:18,959 --> 02:46:22,320 Speaker 9: calls not just for delay or in decisions, but rather 2721 02:46:22,400 --> 02:46:27,000 Speaker 9: for immediate and sustained, vigorous and positive action. There's that 2722 02:46:27,240 --> 02:46:31,879 Speaker 9: positivity again. We've got to be positive, right, And yes, 2723 02:46:32,200 --> 02:46:37,680 Speaker 9: we're living and celebrating Carnza. This year again in difficult, dangerous, demanding, 2724 02:46:37,720 --> 02:46:40,840 Speaker 9: and humanly lit time. But as the sun sets, black people, 2725 02:46:41,040 --> 02:46:43,959 Speaker 9: it also rises, and it drives away the shadows and 2726 02:46:44,000 --> 02:46:47,080 Speaker 9: gymnasts and darkness and lights up the world. And the 2727 02:46:47,120 --> 02:46:49,600 Speaker 9: best of our culture tells and teaches us that we 2728 02:46:49,680 --> 02:46:53,119 Speaker 9: must be the light. We must be the light, I repeat, 2729 02:46:53,360 --> 02:46:56,000 Speaker 9: we must be the light that drives away the shadows, 2730 02:46:56,000 --> 02:46:59,119 Speaker 9: gymnas and dugness and opens a way to the good 2731 02:46:59,160 --> 02:47:03,000 Speaker 9: world want and deserve. Indeed, the lessons of our history 2732 02:47:03,000 --> 02:47:06,440 Speaker 9: and our sense of our own humanity tell us we 2733 02:47:06,520 --> 02:47:09,879 Speaker 9: must defy the darkness, and the darkness make us not 2734 02:47:09,959 --> 02:47:13,480 Speaker 9: just the darkness, but the darkness make us also those 2735 02:47:13,520 --> 02:47:17,840 Speaker 9: that seek to dispirit and diminish us. And we must demonstrate, 2736 02:47:18,200 --> 02:47:21,880 Speaker 9: as I said earlier, a radical refusal to be defeated 2737 02:47:21,959 --> 02:47:25,160 Speaker 9: or dispirited in any way. Following in the footstop of 2738 02:47:25,160 --> 02:47:27,440 Speaker 9: our hundred answers, we must, in the midst of the 2739 02:47:27,560 --> 02:47:31,480 Speaker 9: deepest darkness hanging over us, lift up the light that 2740 02:47:31,680 --> 02:47:36,520 Speaker 9: lasts and dare to herd the dawn only achieved, I repeat, 2741 02:47:36,760 --> 02:47:40,440 Speaker 9: in righteous and relentless struggle for an inclusive and shared 2742 02:47:40,520 --> 02:47:43,959 Speaker 9: good in the world. Our sacred teachers of our ancestors 2743 02:47:44,040 --> 02:47:47,320 Speaker 9: tell us in the earliest of our sacred writing, that 2744 02:47:47,400 --> 02:47:50,920 Speaker 9: who see U quote, it is wrong to walk upside 2745 02:47:51,000 --> 02:47:53,520 Speaker 9: down in darkness, And we must come forth today and 2746 02:47:53,560 --> 02:47:56,680 Speaker 9: bring forth to my eard the light of truth and justice, 2747 02:47:56,760 --> 02:48:00,160 Speaker 9: righteous and good, which is within us. For surely it 2748 02:48:00,240 --> 02:48:03,240 Speaker 9: is within us that they said, and this teaching of 2749 02:48:03,320 --> 02:48:06,440 Speaker 9: the light and the good within us. Find this voice 2750 02:48:06,480 --> 02:48:09,800 Speaker 9: and practice in every place, I said, every place and 2751 02:48:09,920 --> 02:48:14,360 Speaker 9: theory of our history. Therefore, non doctor W. W. Du 2752 02:48:14,400 --> 02:48:18,320 Speaker 9: Bois relates in the sacred narrative of our people that 2753 02:48:18,480 --> 02:48:23,119 Speaker 9: even during the holocaust of enslavement, in the darkest of days, nights, 2754 02:48:23,160 --> 02:48:27,120 Speaker 9: and centuries, our people sang to sunshine. That's the words 2755 02:48:27,120 --> 02:48:30,680 Speaker 9: of you, sang to sunshine. What does this mean? It 2756 02:48:30,720 --> 02:48:34,320 Speaker 9: means they embraced in evidence the radical refusal to be 2757 02:48:34,440 --> 02:48:39,520 Speaker 9: dispirited or defeated. Indeed, they became the sunshine themselves. They 2758 02:48:39,560 --> 02:48:43,360 Speaker 9: became the sunshine they sang to each day, regardless of 2759 02:48:43,400 --> 02:48:46,560 Speaker 9: the weather and the evil and human inhuman way of 2760 02:48:46,600 --> 02:48:51,080 Speaker 9: the oppressor, they sensed and saw a great light lifted 2761 02:48:51,200 --> 02:48:54,959 Speaker 9: up within them, and they lifted it up and called 2762 02:48:55,000 --> 02:48:59,280 Speaker 9: it freedom. They thought their children to remember freedom, to 2763 02:48:59,360 --> 02:49:03,840 Speaker 9: reimagine freedom and to Cherry's freedom, and together they moved 2764 02:49:04,000 --> 02:49:09,360 Speaker 9: and marched irresistibly and irreversibly towards it and brought us 2765 02:49:09,440 --> 02:49:13,160 Speaker 9: to this day. And if which honor that tradition as 2766 02:49:13,160 --> 02:49:17,840 Speaker 9: a living, uplifting and liberating tradition, then we too must 2767 02:49:17,840 --> 02:49:22,640 Speaker 9: sing to sunshine irregardless. Indeed, we too must embody him, 2768 02:49:22,680 --> 02:49:26,080 Speaker 9: be the sunshine that calls forth the day and harries 2769 02:49:26,160 --> 02:49:29,600 Speaker 9: the down a new don black people and a new 2770 02:49:29,680 --> 02:49:33,920 Speaker 9: day of inclusive freedom, justice, and others shared human goods 2771 02:49:34,160 --> 02:49:39,519 Speaker 9: through our continued and expanded work, our service, our sacrifice, 2772 02:49:39,959 --> 02:49:44,119 Speaker 9: and our relentness, our righteous and relentness struggle, and clearly 2773 02:49:44,200 --> 02:49:47,080 Speaker 9: during the Black freedom movement, also our people dare to 2774 02:49:47,160 --> 02:49:50,480 Speaker 9: drive away the darkness and darkness makers and lift up 2775 02:49:50,520 --> 02:49:53,640 Speaker 9: the light. This is overwhelmingly evident in the life and 2776 02:49:53,680 --> 02:49:58,200 Speaker 9: struggle history of non Afana Louhima and her co combatants 2777 02:49:58,240 --> 02:50:01,240 Speaker 9: in our liberation struggle. Y'all remember that one of her 2778 02:50:01,320 --> 02:50:04,560 Speaker 9: favorite songs was this Little Light of Mine, And she 2779 02:50:04,760 --> 02:50:08,680 Speaker 9: sank the sunshine, and she sank for freedom, singing this 2780 02:50:08,800 --> 02:50:12,680 Speaker 9: little light of mine. I'm gonna let it shine, I've 2781 02:50:12,720 --> 02:50:15,959 Speaker 9: got the light of freedom. I'm gonna let it shine 2782 02:50:16,480 --> 02:50:18,360 Speaker 9: everywhere I go. 2783 02:50:18,800 --> 02:50:19,000 Speaker 4: Hey. 2784 02:50:19,600 --> 02:50:23,120 Speaker 9: So this was a resilient and audacious defiance of the 2785 02:50:23,240 --> 02:50:27,360 Speaker 9: darkness right and the darkness makers to singing and being. 2786 02:50:27,520 --> 02:50:30,840 Speaker 9: They our people were singing and being sunshine in the 2787 02:50:30,879 --> 02:50:34,760 Speaker 9: midst of the darkness around them, and audaciously bearing witness 2788 02:50:34,840 --> 02:50:38,720 Speaker 9: to their stent fast faith, their undiminishing hope, and their 2789 02:50:38,720 --> 02:50:43,560 Speaker 9: relentless resistion to evil, injustice and oppression. But let us 2790 02:50:43,600 --> 02:50:49,040 Speaker 9: also remember, as Nana Haidi Malcolm taught us, he emphasized 2791 02:50:49,080 --> 02:50:52,760 Speaker 9: the importance of the light of self knowledge. That light 2792 02:50:52,840 --> 02:50:57,600 Speaker 9: within us is also a call to know ourselves right, 2793 02:50:58,160 --> 02:51:01,480 Speaker 9: to have knowledge of ourselves in each other, as we 2794 02:51:01,560 --> 02:51:05,160 Speaker 9: also study and learn the ways and wisdom of the world. 2795 02:51:05,680 --> 02:51:07,840 Speaker 9: So we must know the ways and wisdom of the world, 2796 02:51:07,920 --> 02:51:12,160 Speaker 9: but we must know ourselves. If not everybody we win, 2797 02:51:12,360 --> 02:51:15,040 Speaker 9: we will lose another one. And if we don't know 2798 02:51:15,240 --> 02:51:20,800 Speaker 9: ourselves are the enemy or the oppressor everybody we fight, 2799 02:51:20,920 --> 02:51:24,400 Speaker 9: we'll lose. Right, So Haiji Malcolm tells us and teach 2800 02:51:24,520 --> 02:51:27,960 Speaker 9: us quote, we need more light about each other. Light 2801 02:51:28,120 --> 02:51:33,560 Speaker 9: creates understanding, Understanding creates love, Love creates patience, and patients 2802 02:51:33,640 --> 02:51:38,480 Speaker 9: creates unity. And that is a unity. We need to repair, 2803 02:51:38,640 --> 02:51:42,359 Speaker 9: renew and remake the world. In the practice of Quanta, 2804 02:51:42,520 --> 02:51:46,160 Speaker 9: in the candle lighting ceremony, we follow in the footsteps 2805 02:51:46,240 --> 02:51:49,240 Speaker 9: of our ancestors and we lift up the lasting light 2806 02:51:49,320 --> 02:51:52,440 Speaker 9: of the Ghuzo Shabah born in and out of the 2807 02:51:52,480 --> 02:51:56,040 Speaker 9: Black Freedom movement. As I said before, Quansa stresses our 2808 02:51:56,080 --> 02:51:59,800 Speaker 9: ongoing struggle to be ourselves and to free ourselfs and 2809 02:51:59,800 --> 02:52:03,000 Speaker 9: to achieved was shared African and human good and the 2810 02:52:03,040 --> 02:52:05,920 Speaker 9: well being of the world and all in it. It's 2811 02:52:05,920 --> 02:52:10,160 Speaker 9: a harvest celebration, so it's environmentally or in it. It's 2812 02:52:10,200 --> 02:52:14,879 Speaker 9: a world encompacing holiday. Therefore, enlightening each candle, we are 2813 02:52:14,959 --> 02:52:18,280 Speaker 9: committing to lifting up the light and hearing the dawn 2814 02:52:18,600 --> 02:52:23,520 Speaker 9: by practicing the Guzosaba, as our freedom songs say, everywhere 2815 02:52:23,560 --> 02:52:26,800 Speaker 9: we are and everywhere we go, and we must do 2816 02:52:26,840 --> 02:52:30,400 Speaker 9: this in liberating and uplifting way. In this way we 2817 02:52:30,480 --> 02:52:34,320 Speaker 9: honor the ancient African imperitive from the Husa that says 2818 02:52:34,520 --> 02:52:37,920 Speaker 9: we must bear witness to truth and set the skills 2819 02:52:37,959 --> 02:52:41,920 Speaker 9: of justice in their proper place, especially among the voiceless 2820 02:52:42,000 --> 02:52:46,080 Speaker 9: and the vulnerable, the downtriden, the devalued, and their press 2821 02:52:46,440 --> 02:52:49,560 Speaker 9: allSome tasks, as I said earlier, is a world in change, 2822 02:52:49,560 --> 02:52:53,240 Speaker 9: in assignment that was given to us by non document 2823 02:52:53,320 --> 02:52:57,080 Speaker 9: Macavit doom And she says, our task is to remake 2824 02:52:57,120 --> 02:53:00,600 Speaker 9: the world. It is nothing less to that that, and 2825 02:53:00,640 --> 02:53:03,520 Speaker 9: that we must be a source of sunlight that gives 2826 02:53:03,560 --> 02:53:06,640 Speaker 9: the shared goodness of light and life and warmth to 2827 02:53:06,680 --> 02:53:09,560 Speaker 9: the world. That's the beauty of that analogy of sun. 2828 02:53:09,920 --> 02:53:13,400 Speaker 9: The sun gives light, life and warmth to the world. 2829 02:53:13,920 --> 02:53:17,440 Speaker 9: And she and our ancestors all tell us we must 2830 02:53:17,440 --> 02:53:21,119 Speaker 9: be that son that brings the goodness of light, of 2831 02:53:21,160 --> 02:53:24,039 Speaker 9: life and wart to the world. And that means it 2832 02:53:24,120 --> 02:53:28,039 Speaker 9: calls first for or moja unity, a sacred togetherness of 2833 02:53:28,080 --> 02:53:31,440 Speaker 9: our people in the small and large circles of our life, 2834 02:53:31,720 --> 02:53:35,120 Speaker 9: the solidarity of humanity, and the profound sense of oneness 2835 02:53:35,400 --> 02:53:38,959 Speaker 9: with the world and with all in it, which jagulari 2836 02:53:39,040 --> 02:53:43,880 Speaker 9: of self determination. It tells us and our and urges 2837 02:53:44,000 --> 02:53:46,920 Speaker 9: us to respect the right of every people to be 2838 02:53:47,080 --> 02:53:50,920 Speaker 9: free control their destiny and daily life, and make their 2839 02:53:50,959 --> 02:53:55,720 Speaker 9: own unique contributions to history and humanity, whether in Haiti, Sudan, 2840 02:53:55,879 --> 02:54:01,000 Speaker 9: the Democratic Republic of Congo, Palestine, and anywhere else in 2841 02:54:01,040 --> 02:54:07,320 Speaker 9: the world. And ujima elective work and responsibility means our conscious, 2842 02:54:07,360 --> 02:54:11,080 Speaker 9: shared efforts and obligation to conceive, beal, and sustain the 2843 02:54:11,120 --> 02:54:13,920 Speaker 9: good world we all want and deserve to live in 2844 02:54:14,360 --> 02:54:18,840 Speaker 9: and leave for future generations who come after. And the 2845 02:54:18,920 --> 02:54:23,199 Speaker 9: task calls for and requires ujama coaptive economic shared work 2846 02:54:23,240 --> 02:54:27,080 Speaker 9: and shared wealth. They don't inshlt with and concern for 2847 02:54:27,160 --> 02:54:29,440 Speaker 9: the well being of each other and the well being 2848 02:54:29,520 --> 02:54:33,320 Speaker 9: of the world, especially concerned for the most vulnerable and 2849 02:54:33,480 --> 02:54:37,760 Speaker 9: own our right to share echoedly and responsibility in the 2850 02:54:37,879 --> 02:54:42,120 Speaker 9: natural and creative good of the world. Neal purpose means 2851 02:54:42,120 --> 02:54:45,440 Speaker 9: the liberation and upliftment of our people and our shared 2852 02:54:45,480 --> 02:54:48,880 Speaker 9: fundamental meaning and mission of human life, and that is 2853 02:54:48,920 --> 02:54:52,240 Speaker 9: to create and increase good in the world and for 2854 02:54:52,360 --> 02:54:55,640 Speaker 9: the world, and not let any good be lawed. That's 2855 02:54:55,640 --> 02:54:59,280 Speaker 9: the beautiful averse from the odu Ephi that says, let's 2856 02:54:59,320 --> 02:55:06,039 Speaker 9: do things with joy, for surely humans are divinely created 2857 02:55:06,480 --> 02:55:10,600 Speaker 9: to bring good into the world and not let any 2858 02:55:11,160 --> 02:55:15,480 Speaker 9: good be lost. I'm sorry. Humans are divinely chosen, chosen 2859 02:55:15,840 --> 02:55:18,959 Speaker 9: to bring good into the world and not let any 2860 02:55:18,959 --> 02:55:22,279 Speaker 9: good be last and not chosen. The word is anyond 2861 02:55:22,440 --> 02:55:25,400 Speaker 9: means human being and chosen one. So everybody is chosen, 2862 02:55:25,480 --> 02:55:28,800 Speaker 9: not just one group, not one people, but all humans 2863 02:55:28,800 --> 02:55:31,560 Speaker 9: are chosen, and they've chosen, not over and against anyone, 2864 02:55:31,760 --> 02:55:35,840 Speaker 9: but chosen with everyone to do one thing to bring 2865 02:55:35,879 --> 02:55:39,039 Speaker 9: good into the world. Take whatever career you have, whatever 2866 02:55:39,160 --> 02:55:42,360 Speaker 9: vocation you have, and use it to bring good into 2867 02:55:42,360 --> 02:55:46,240 Speaker 9: the world. And then Coombra. Creativity is i shot shared 2868 02:55:46,240 --> 02:55:49,280 Speaker 9: obligations to do all we can to constantly repair, renewed, 2869 02:55:49,400 --> 02:55:52,320 Speaker 9: and remake the world, making it more beautiful and beneficial 2870 02:55:52,600 --> 02:55:56,480 Speaker 9: than we inherited. And finally, eminding faith is the shared 2871 02:55:56,520 --> 02:56:02,040 Speaker 9: belief and confidence in the good and in ourselves rooted 2872 02:56:02,080 --> 02:56:05,480 Speaker 9: in the sacred teachings of our honored ancestors like Nana 2873 02:56:05,800 --> 02:56:10,480 Speaker 9: Howard Therminal, Nana Grin Brooks, and Nana Nanny Bearers. And 2874 02:56:10,520 --> 02:56:14,640 Speaker 9: they tell us. Nana Herod Howard Therman tells her, we'll 2875 02:56:14,720 --> 02:56:18,280 Speaker 9: people who ride the storm and remain intact. Nana Grin 2876 02:56:18,280 --> 02:56:21,800 Speaker 9: Brooks tells us, we'll people who conduct our blooming in 2877 02:56:21,840 --> 02:56:25,440 Speaker 9: the noise and whip of the whirlwind. And Nana Nani 2878 02:56:25,480 --> 02:56:28,520 Speaker 9: Bearers tells us we are people that specialize in the 2879 02:56:28,560 --> 02:56:33,320 Speaker 9: holy impossible. Now, given this, Black people, what dark or 2880 02:56:33,640 --> 02:56:38,320 Speaker 9: dimly lit time can truly dispirit us. What makers and 2881 02:56:38,400 --> 02:56:41,720 Speaker 9: demons of the dark can defeat us or divert us 2882 02:56:41,760 --> 02:56:45,039 Speaker 9: from our commitment to bring good into the world, to 2883 02:56:45,120 --> 02:56:49,320 Speaker 9: be free, to be ourselves and free ourselves. Who can 2884 02:56:49,400 --> 02:56:52,480 Speaker 9: do that to us? If we continue to struggle, keep 2885 02:56:52,560 --> 02:56:57,840 Speaker 9: the faith and hold the line regardless and irreversibly. That's 2886 02:56:57,920 --> 02:57:02,000 Speaker 9: essentially my message for this quins right and. 2887 02:57:01,959 --> 02:57:03,880 Speaker 3: Hold that thought right there. Doctor Kerengo got to step 2888 02:57:03,920 --> 02:57:05,920 Speaker 3: aside for a few moments eighteen minutes after the top 2889 02:57:05,959 --> 02:57:08,800 Speaker 3: of our family just joined us. I guess this Quansa 2890 02:57:08,879 --> 02:57:11,560 Speaker 3: creator dotr Karengo will take your calls. And also before 2891 02:57:11,560 --> 02:57:13,240 Speaker 3: we take the call, so doctor Kring, will we come 2892 02:57:13,240 --> 02:57:16,040 Speaker 3: back tell us about the lighting of the candles the canar, 2893 02:57:16,120 --> 02:57:18,160 Speaker 3: How did that come about in the sequence in which 2894 02:57:18,200 --> 02:57:21,120 Speaker 3: one has to do that to celebrate Quansa family. You 2895 02:57:21,160 --> 02:57:23,080 Speaker 3: two can get in on this discussion. Reach out to 2896 02:57:23,160 --> 02:57:25,920 Speaker 3: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight 2897 02:57:26,120 --> 02:57:28,199 Speaker 3: seventy six and we'll take your phone calls. 2898 02:57:27,840 --> 02:57:58,200 Speaker 14: Next fourteen fifty wol. 2899 02:58:05,200 --> 02:58:07,600 Speaker 10: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show. 2900 02:58:28,560 --> 02:58:30,960 Speaker 3: And Grand Rising family. Thanks for sticking with us on 2901 02:58:31,000 --> 02:58:34,240 Speaker 3: this Wednesday morning. Here I guess is doctor Milana Krenka, 2902 02:58:34,320 --> 02:58:37,400 Speaker 3: doctor Crank created quansafore go to the phone, though, doctor Krenka, 2903 02:58:37,879 --> 02:58:40,440 Speaker 3: part of the celebration of Quansa is the canara and 2904 02:58:40,600 --> 02:58:43,280 Speaker 3: the candles. Can you share that with How are we 2905 02:58:43,360 --> 02:58:44,680 Speaker 3: supposed to use. 2906 02:58:44,520 --> 02:58:49,280 Speaker 9: That process now as sacha for that? That's so much 2907 02:58:49,840 --> 02:58:56,760 Speaker 9: so the seven candles represent the seven principles. So when 2908 02:58:56,879 --> 02:59:00,920 Speaker 9: we light them, we're lifting up the light that last 2909 02:59:01,440 --> 02:59:06,240 Speaker 9: of those principles. These are moral principles and in the 2910 02:59:06,240 --> 02:59:08,920 Speaker 9: sacred teachers of our ancestors, and then we see it 2911 02:59:08,920 --> 02:59:11,520 Speaker 9: it said, we're given that which endures in the midst 2912 02:59:11,600 --> 02:59:15,040 Speaker 9: of that which is overthrown, and that which endures in 2913 02:59:15,080 --> 02:59:18,720 Speaker 9: the midst of that which is overthrown, or our fundamental 2914 02:59:18,920 --> 02:59:24,760 Speaker 9: moral principles speaking truth, doing justice, practicing o mojo and 2915 02:59:24,840 --> 02:59:28,760 Speaker 9: self determination, being free as a free people, et cetera. 2916 02:59:29,080 --> 02:59:31,959 Speaker 9: So I think it's very important for us to understand 2917 02:59:32,000 --> 02:59:36,080 Speaker 9: that the lighting is lifting up the light that lasts, 2918 02:59:36,360 --> 02:59:40,600 Speaker 9: and the light that lasts of these moral principles and 2919 02:59:40,720 --> 02:59:47,720 Speaker 9: practices by which we ground ourselves, center ourself and direct 2920 02:59:47,800 --> 02:59:51,959 Speaker 9: our lives toward good and expansive end. So the seven 2921 02:59:53,080 --> 02:59:58,760 Speaker 9: candles have colors black, red, and green. One black for 2922 02:59:58,840 --> 03:00:04,440 Speaker 9: the people, three black for struggle, and three dream for 2923 03:00:04,560 --> 03:00:08,360 Speaker 9: the future. That is forcing struggle, and so there are 2924 03:00:08,480 --> 03:00:11,920 Speaker 9: lessons from that. How we light the candles and the 2925 03:00:12,120 --> 03:00:18,519 Speaker 9: order we light them is a lesson in priority and importance. 2926 03:00:19,160 --> 03:00:22,480 Speaker 9: So the first candle we light is the black candle. 2927 03:00:22,680 --> 03:00:25,960 Speaker 9: That means we put black people first. Right, if we 2928 03:00:26,000 --> 03:00:28,920 Speaker 9: can do other things, you know, we can talk about struggle, 2929 03:00:28,959 --> 03:00:30,760 Speaker 9: we can talk about the future, but if we don't 2930 03:00:30,760 --> 03:00:33,960 Speaker 9: put the people at the center of all we do 2931 03:00:34,040 --> 03:00:37,680 Speaker 9: as the priority in all we do. Hey, who are 2932 03:00:37,720 --> 03:00:43,080 Speaker 9: we right? So first the people, second the struggle. It 2933 03:00:43,280 --> 03:00:52,840 Speaker 9: teaches us the essentiality of struggle, that without struggle. And 2934 03:00:52,920 --> 03:00:57,800 Speaker 9: I usually struggle here as striving and confrontational struggle at 2935 03:00:57,840 --> 03:01:02,119 Speaker 9: the same time. And I want to introduce the concept 2936 03:01:02,200 --> 03:01:06,480 Speaker 9: of resistance. Kau Kawidi is my philosophy of Court kauitera 2937 03:01:06,600 --> 03:01:10,240 Speaker 9: conception of resistance which has three points to it. Usually 2938 03:01:10,280 --> 03:01:13,000 Speaker 9: when we think about resistance, call we think of just 2939 03:01:13,040 --> 03:01:16,560 Speaker 9: opposing opposition, and we must have that, we must So 2940 03:01:16,800 --> 03:01:22,760 Speaker 9: it has three parts opposition, affirmation, and aspiration, not just opposition. 2941 03:01:23,000 --> 03:01:25,800 Speaker 9: Certainly we must have opposition to our pressor and all 2942 03:01:25,879 --> 03:01:30,040 Speaker 9: forms of a pressent, internal and externally. Right. Second, though, 2943 03:01:30,400 --> 03:01:33,200 Speaker 9: we must affirm the people. It's the second aspect is 2944 03:01:33,240 --> 03:01:37,320 Speaker 9: not simply opposition, but it's affirmation, affirmation of our people, 2945 03:01:37,720 --> 03:01:41,520 Speaker 9: of our sacredness, our soulfulness, our resilience, our resourcement, are 2946 03:01:41,520 --> 03:01:46,720 Speaker 9: capacity to create progress, and our radical refusal to be defeated. 2947 03:01:47,000 --> 03:01:50,160 Speaker 9: We've got the positive. That's why I always take quositas 2948 03:01:50,200 --> 03:01:52,879 Speaker 9: of time for the positive. Right, why did we go 2949 03:01:52,959 --> 03:01:56,680 Speaker 9: from here? And then the third is resistance is not 2950 03:01:56,760 --> 03:02:02,320 Speaker 9: only opposition and affirmation, it's also aspiration, an active aspiration 2951 03:02:02,720 --> 03:02:06,600 Speaker 9: to create a new world as less as Muhammad said, 2952 03:02:06,600 --> 03:02:09,120 Speaker 9: a new Earth and a new Us. How do we 2953 03:02:09,640 --> 03:02:14,360 Speaker 9: create a new world, a new people, a new humanity, 2954 03:02:14,560 --> 03:02:17,880 Speaker 9: as a nano phenone said, a new world, a new 2955 03:02:17,920 --> 03:02:20,440 Speaker 9: man to bring into being, he said, a new man 2956 03:02:20,520 --> 03:02:23,240 Speaker 9: and woman, a new human being, in other words, a 2957 03:02:23,280 --> 03:02:25,760 Speaker 9: new human being. How do we do that? And we 2958 03:02:25,800 --> 03:02:27,320 Speaker 9: have to struggle and we're at the heart of that. 2959 03:02:27,680 --> 03:02:30,879 Speaker 9: So when we like the talent, we show first the 2960 03:02:30,959 --> 03:02:34,800 Speaker 9: black the priority of the people, second the red decentiality 2961 03:02:34,840 --> 03:02:38,760 Speaker 9: of struggle, and third the possibility. And we like the 2962 03:02:38,840 --> 03:02:43,440 Speaker 9: green character calendar, we demonstrating the possibility and promise of 2963 03:02:43,520 --> 03:02:48,160 Speaker 9: a good future forged and righteous and religious struggle. So 2964 03:02:48,600 --> 03:02:52,160 Speaker 9: the people, the struggle and the future, right. And so 2965 03:02:52,200 --> 03:02:54,440 Speaker 9: that's how we like, and we like from inside, you 2966 03:02:54,480 --> 03:02:58,000 Speaker 9: know why, because every same tarts within. Even when we 2967 03:02:58,080 --> 03:03:01,920 Speaker 9: talk about transforming the world, we must transform ourselves in 2968 03:03:02,000 --> 03:03:06,040 Speaker 9: the process and practice. That's how a man offent On says. 2969 03:03:06,080 --> 03:03:08,600 Speaker 9: You know, decolonization is not just the leaving of the 2970 03:03:08,760 --> 03:03:12,520 Speaker 9: white troops or the colonials, right. This means not on 2971 03:03:12,600 --> 03:03:16,040 Speaker 9: the end of that, but the end of the decolonized person. 2972 03:03:16,440 --> 03:03:18,840 Speaker 9: I mean, at the end of the colonized person, we 2973 03:03:19,000 --> 03:03:22,680 Speaker 9: must decolonize the person to colonized the mind in our heart, right. 2974 03:03:23,120 --> 03:03:25,960 Speaker 9: And so here we have the priority of the people, 2975 03:03:26,520 --> 03:03:31,000 Speaker 9: the sentiality of struggle, and the possibility of promise of 2976 03:03:31,080 --> 03:03:35,240 Speaker 9: a good future that is forged by the people in 2977 03:03:35,400 --> 03:03:38,600 Speaker 9: righteous and relentless struggle. So that's the beauty of this right. 2978 03:03:38,920 --> 03:03:41,600 Speaker 9: And that's why they don't say it's invented. It's an 2979 03:03:41,680 --> 03:03:45,560 Speaker 9: intellectual creation, right. And sometimes when we just learn it 2980 03:03:45,640 --> 03:03:48,360 Speaker 9: and we don't do what you're doing now asking the 2981 03:03:48,440 --> 03:03:52,120 Speaker 9: details of it, we think it's just lighting candles. It's 2982 03:03:52,160 --> 03:03:55,040 Speaker 9: not just lighting them some people might think that. For 2983 03:03:55,200 --> 03:03:58,720 Speaker 9: those who think deeper, they know and have read the book, 2984 03:03:59,160 --> 03:04:02,760 Speaker 9: they know that there's a beauty in this and there's 2985 03:04:02,760 --> 03:04:08,680 Speaker 9: a thoughtfulness that went into producing this that has warmed 2986 03:04:08,680 --> 03:04:13,280 Speaker 9: the heart and affected the minds of millions of Africans 2987 03:04:13,320 --> 03:04:17,119 Speaker 9: throughout the world, African community. And that's a beautiful thought 2988 03:04:17,240 --> 03:04:21,920 Speaker 9: and a beautiful achievement. And I thank our people for 2989 03:04:22,680 --> 03:04:25,720 Speaker 9: embracing this holiday making it real. Of course, I think 2990 03:04:25,800 --> 03:04:32,320 Speaker 9: my organization US who sheltered this idea that I put 2991 03:04:32,400 --> 03:04:36,360 Speaker 9: forward and helped you protect and promoted to teach it 2992 03:04:36,440 --> 03:04:39,440 Speaker 9: to others who then tart it around the world. 2993 03:04:41,240 --> 03:04:43,160 Speaker 3: Twenty had after the top of the hour, Bob is 2994 03:04:43,160 --> 03:04:46,000 Speaker 3: calling us from Buffalo. He's online for Grand Rising. Bob, 2995 03:04:46,040 --> 03:04:47,600 Speaker 3: your question for doctor Karenka. 2996 03:04:48,920 --> 03:04:53,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, blissed love of family Southeasiana. Doctor Krinda, thank you 2997 03:04:53,280 --> 03:04:55,440 Speaker 8: very much for all that you've done and all that 2998 03:04:55,520 --> 03:04:57,879 Speaker 8: you will do. And I thank you for all the time. 2999 03:04:58,879 --> 03:05:02,440 Speaker 8: Thank you blessed both with your presence during the Quanta seasons. 3000 03:05:02,920 --> 03:05:06,080 Speaker 8: It has helped us and enlighten us. We've grown from 3001 03:05:06,120 --> 03:05:10,520 Speaker 8: individual celebrations to the city wide celebration. We celebrate all 3002 03:05:10,520 --> 03:05:16,720 Speaker 8: the way long the Aguza Saba. I learned it as 3003 03:05:16,840 --> 03:05:20,280 Speaker 8: the seven Principles of nation building, and I was wondering 3004 03:05:20,360 --> 03:05:23,240 Speaker 8: if people now call it or refer to it as 3005 03:05:23,280 --> 03:05:27,000 Speaker 8: the seven Principles of Kwanza. But I still hold on 3006 03:05:27,080 --> 03:05:30,640 Speaker 8: to the nation building aspect of it. And one of 3007 03:05:30,640 --> 03:05:34,800 Speaker 8: the aspects of Quanta that I most appreciate is the 3008 03:05:34,800 --> 03:05:39,520 Speaker 8: in gathering of the people, and I love that. But 3009 03:05:40,920 --> 03:05:45,080 Speaker 8: to skate my question quickly, can you speak to two 3010 03:05:45,200 --> 03:05:51,119 Speaker 8: other workers warriors that we've lost this year, Jimmail Olamin 3011 03:05:51,680 --> 03:05:54,280 Speaker 8: and Asadakor could you say something about their life and 3012 03:05:54,640 --> 03:05:55,400 Speaker 8: look leg see. 3013 03:05:57,640 --> 03:06:02,480 Speaker 9: Thank you so much, brother Bob and scientif On. Greetings 3014 03:06:02,480 --> 03:06:07,480 Speaker 9: to the brothers and sisters of Buffalo, and we wish 3015 03:06:07,520 --> 03:06:10,959 Speaker 9: for them and all our people blessings without numbering, all 3016 03:06:11,000 --> 03:06:15,280 Speaker 9: good things without aim, and the quinds of blessing, that 3017 03:06:15,400 --> 03:06:19,760 Speaker 9: you have all the good that Heaven grants, the earth produces, 3018 03:06:20,160 --> 03:06:23,400 Speaker 9: and the water spring forth from their death through the 3019 03:06:23,480 --> 03:06:28,120 Speaker 9: seven principles Bob, or the seven principles of Kwa velocity, 3020 03:06:28,480 --> 03:06:32,280 Speaker 9: out of which I created. Both the quins are ended 3021 03:06:32,920 --> 03:06:35,560 Speaker 9: seven principles, or they can do so, savag so you 3022 03:06:35,640 --> 03:06:40,760 Speaker 9: can say there are seven principles of nation building. People 3023 03:06:40,840 --> 03:06:45,160 Speaker 9: say there are seven principles of family building. People say 3024 03:06:45,240 --> 03:06:50,200 Speaker 9: there are seven principles of organizing our people into a 3025 03:06:50,280 --> 03:06:54,720 Speaker 9: self conscious social force. Those are descriptions of what you 3026 03:06:54,800 --> 03:06:57,600 Speaker 9: can use them for. But if we talk about the 3027 03:06:57,640 --> 03:07:01,599 Speaker 9: origin of them, they are part of chow eat philosophy, 3028 03:07:01,959 --> 03:07:08,560 Speaker 9: a larger philosophy informs and undergirds the seven principles. So 3029 03:07:08,879 --> 03:07:13,600 Speaker 9: as we teach the seventh principles, we teach cow eater philosophy. Right, 3030 03:07:14,000 --> 03:07:17,199 Speaker 9: So it's the seven principles of cow eater philosophy first, 3031 03:07:18,000 --> 03:07:21,720 Speaker 9: And as I defined the coro eater philogy, I created 3032 03:07:21,800 --> 03:07:26,600 Speaker 9: the beginning in my uh college days, my university day, 3033 03:07:27,120 --> 03:07:29,920 Speaker 9: and I continued it and deepened it, of course in 3034 03:07:29,959 --> 03:07:33,480 Speaker 9: the midst of struggle, because that's where we uh. You know, 3035 03:07:36,120 --> 03:07:40,920 Speaker 9: thought informs practice, but practice also informs thought. So the 3036 03:07:40,920 --> 03:07:43,720 Speaker 9: more I practiced, the more I could see things that 3037 03:07:44,240 --> 03:07:47,959 Speaker 9: I needed to see and to expand our understanding of 3038 03:07:48,040 --> 03:07:52,080 Speaker 9: these things. So the seven principles of cow cow we eating, 3039 03:07:52,120 --> 03:07:58,840 Speaker 9: seven principles of uh uh nation building uh oh seven 3040 03:07:58,879 --> 03:08:01,920 Speaker 9: principle co we eat, the seven cornsa seven principle of 3041 03:08:02,000 --> 03:08:04,800 Speaker 9: nation building, and whatever else you want to say, that's 3042 03:08:04,840 --> 03:08:07,000 Speaker 9: positive and good. You can say that you know, you 3043 03:08:07,040 --> 03:08:12,000 Speaker 9: can use it for that you said you liked the activities, 3044 03:08:12,040 --> 03:08:16,120 Speaker 9: And what Bob is talking about is the fire fundamental 3045 03:08:16,959 --> 03:08:21,879 Speaker 9: organizing activities of the First Truth celebrations that we still 3046 03:08:21,959 --> 03:08:27,720 Speaker 9: use that were practiced in ancient African celebrations. And of 3047 03:08:27,760 --> 03:08:32,480 Speaker 9: course our ancestors and elders, the force, you know, came 3048 03:08:32,520 --> 03:08:37,119 Speaker 9: together first as an end gathering to reinforce the bonds 3049 03:08:37,160 --> 03:08:42,120 Speaker 9: between us as people. Second, they came together to give 3050 03:08:42,240 --> 03:08:46,920 Speaker 9: special reverence to create it, and creation to give thanks 3051 03:08:46,959 --> 03:08:50,800 Speaker 9: for the harvest of the good that they had gathered 3052 03:08:50,800 --> 03:08:54,480 Speaker 9: from the furtive fields of our lands, the fruitful fields 3053 03:08:54,560 --> 03:08:59,920 Speaker 9: of our lives, right, and the gains from our hard 3054 03:09:00,080 --> 03:09:05,040 Speaker 9: in difficult but victorious struggles. Right. And then of course 3055 03:09:05,120 --> 03:09:09,680 Speaker 9: they came together to commemorate the past, right, to raise 3056 03:09:09,760 --> 03:09:15,480 Speaker 9: and praise the names and sustain practices of our ancestors, 3057 03:09:15,600 --> 03:09:19,600 Speaker 9: and to recommit ourselves to the dignity firming and life 3058 03:09:19,680 --> 03:09:23,800 Speaker 9: nance and views and values that they left to grounding grindness. 3059 03:09:23,800 --> 03:09:26,960 Speaker 9: So they not only came to commemorate the path, but 3060 03:09:27,000 --> 03:09:32,120 Speaker 9: they came to also recommit themselves to the best of 3061 03:09:32,120 --> 03:09:36,080 Speaker 9: our values. And that's what we do doing quantity not 3062 03:09:36,120 --> 03:09:39,520 Speaker 9: only the in Guzo sobig, but commit ourselves to the truth, 3063 03:09:40,680 --> 03:09:46,640 Speaker 9: to justice, right, to appropriate propriety, to harmon into balance, 3064 03:09:46,680 --> 03:09:50,920 Speaker 9: to reciprocity, to righteous order. You know, values that stress 3065 03:09:50,959 --> 03:09:55,360 Speaker 9: and strengthen family, community, and culture. Values that tell us 3066 03:09:55,400 --> 03:09:58,520 Speaker 9: to speak and speak truth, do and demand justice, reflect 3067 03:09:58,560 --> 03:10:01,880 Speaker 9: our elders and our ancestry, cherish and challenge our children. 3068 03:10:02,280 --> 03:10:04,760 Speaker 9: Here for the poor and vulnerable among us, have a 3069 03:10:04,840 --> 03:10:11,039 Speaker 9: rightful relationship with the environment, constantly struggle against evil, injustice 3070 03:10:11,080 --> 03:10:15,320 Speaker 9: and oppression, and always praise, pursue and raise up to good. 3071 03:10:16,080 --> 03:10:20,920 Speaker 9: And finally, the fifth activity after you know number one, 3072 03:10:21,000 --> 03:10:25,520 Speaker 9: of course, and gathering of the people, special reverence for creating, creation, 3073 03:10:26,120 --> 03:10:31,920 Speaker 9: commemoration of the past, recommitment to our highest values. Is 3074 03:10:32,040 --> 03:10:36,880 Speaker 9: celebration of good. The good of family, community, and culture, 3075 03:10:37,440 --> 03:10:40,600 Speaker 9: the good of loving kindness and care, the good of 3076 03:10:40,640 --> 03:10:43,959 Speaker 9: respect for ourselves and others, the good of life and 3077 03:10:44,040 --> 03:10:47,400 Speaker 9: the good of love, the good of sharing together, the 3078 03:10:47,480 --> 03:10:52,800 Speaker 9: gift of nature of field and forest, water, river, rock, 3079 03:10:53,440 --> 03:10:57,560 Speaker 9: extreme just the beauty of things. You know, this is 3080 03:10:57,879 --> 03:11:00,720 Speaker 9: and first of all, the beauty by people, or the 3081 03:11:00,879 --> 03:11:04,280 Speaker 9: sacredness of our people, the soulfulness of our people, the 3082 03:11:04,360 --> 03:11:07,160 Speaker 9: resilience and resourcefulness of our people. I can't say that 3083 03:11:07,360 --> 03:11:13,800 Speaker 9: too often because I need for us to always affirm myself. 3084 03:11:14,120 --> 03:11:18,000 Speaker 9: As we oppose the evil that would undermine us, we 3085 03:11:18,080 --> 03:11:24,080 Speaker 9: at the same time affirm ourselves and demonstrate our aspiration 3086 03:11:24,800 --> 03:11:28,119 Speaker 9: for a new world and a new people, a new 3087 03:11:28,560 --> 03:11:33,360 Speaker 9: human being in the world. Now. In terms of Jamil, 3088 03:11:33,920 --> 03:11:39,600 Speaker 9: I knew Jamia uh a mom Jamir Abdullah Allah mean, 3089 03:11:40,360 --> 03:11:42,840 Speaker 9: and we used to say let rap rap right, that 3090 03:11:43,040 --> 03:11:46,160 Speaker 9: was his struggle name. We can call him rap because 3091 03:11:46,200 --> 03:11:49,320 Speaker 9: their struggle name. The other name, the European name. I 3092 03:11:49,440 --> 03:11:52,920 Speaker 9: never knew it, but I knew rap, right. I say 3093 03:11:52,959 --> 03:11:55,280 Speaker 9: it now, of course, but I never knew it. And 3094 03:11:55,360 --> 03:11:59,720 Speaker 9: so UH we UH honor him uh And as I 3095 03:11:59,760 --> 03:12:06,240 Speaker 9: say said about Malcolm Haijia Malcolm and I him and 3096 03:12:06,879 --> 03:12:14,400 Speaker 9: aside to court nanad Nana imam Jamat, I mean we 3097 03:12:14,520 --> 03:12:18,440 Speaker 9: are of the best in ourselves. No Nana, I'm uh 3098 03:12:19,240 --> 03:12:24,720 Speaker 9: uh Jamil. I mean we met when he came uh 3099 03:12:24,560 --> 03:12:27,600 Speaker 9: uh first to U U hu the rally we had 3100 03:12:28,200 --> 03:12:33,160 Speaker 9: UH commemorator and celebrating to watch revolt, the August revolt 3101 03:12:33,440 --> 03:12:37,360 Speaker 9: because Uh we invited the major leaders to come and 3102 03:12:37,400 --> 03:12:39,920 Speaker 9: they came in and he was one of them uh 3103 03:12:40,280 --> 03:12:43,840 Speaker 9: in sixty seven and we had a large parking lot. 3104 03:12:43,959 --> 03:12:46,520 Speaker 9: We put we stood on the back of a truck 3105 03:12:46,760 --> 03:12:50,039 Speaker 9: made made a black fork. We spoke and wrapped, rapped, 3106 03:12:50,080 --> 03:12:54,760 Speaker 9: of course, and we became very good colleagues and comrades 3107 03:12:54,800 --> 03:12:59,360 Speaker 9: and struggle. And I mentioned the name of uh Nina, 3108 03:13:00,080 --> 03:13:03,199 Speaker 9: I mean Halifu, who is one of our founding members 3109 03:13:03,480 --> 03:13:08,040 Speaker 9: who made good friendship with him and with Guami to 3110 03:13:08,200 --> 03:13:14,560 Speaker 9: ray Nay. And I'm writing this month. I'm writing for 3111 03:13:14,840 --> 03:13:17,600 Speaker 9: my next column. I write a weekly column for the 3112 03:13:17,720 --> 03:13:23,080 Speaker 9: Sentinel uh here in Los Angeles. Every week I write 3113 03:13:23,120 --> 03:13:25,640 Speaker 9: a column for this and my column this week is 3114 03:13:25,640 --> 03:13:31,920 Speaker 9: on Nana Imam Jamil, and it's titled the mo the Mujahi, 3115 03:13:32,160 --> 03:13:36,160 Speaker 9: the Shahid and Imam Jamil I mean, so I say 3116 03:13:36,240 --> 03:13:39,560 Speaker 9: about him, he was a soldier, a constant soldier. Mujahid 3117 03:13:39,680 --> 03:13:43,720 Speaker 9: mean righteous warrior, righteous soldier in uh Islam and in 3118 03:13:44,000 --> 03:13:48,520 Speaker 9: uh Airba. Shahid means martyr for the cause, one who 3119 03:13:48,520 --> 03:13:53,720 Speaker 9: bears witness uh to uh the divine witness for his 3120 03:13:53,879 --> 03:13:57,199 Speaker 9: people and for this struggle. And so I give him. 3121 03:13:59,160 --> 03:14:01,560 Speaker 3: Our last break. Twenty three minutes away from the top day. 3122 03:14:01,560 --> 03:14:03,320 Speaker 3: I'll let you finish up when we get back. And 3123 03:14:03,360 --> 03:14:05,280 Speaker 3: also a tweeter wanted to know why you use the 3124 03:14:05,360 --> 03:14:07,720 Speaker 3: term none if you can explain that for us as 3125 03:14:07,720 --> 03:14:10,480 Speaker 3: well a family, heso can get it on this discussion 3126 03:14:10,480 --> 03:14:13,520 Speaker 3: with dtor Milana Karrenga, the creator of Kwanza reach out 3127 03:14:13,520 --> 03:14:16,200 Speaker 3: to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight 3128 03:14:16,400 --> 03:14:17,960 Speaker 3: seventy six and we take your phone calls. 3129 03:14:18,160 --> 03:14:46,000 Speaker 14: Thanks fourteen fifty wold. 3130 03:14:52,240 --> 03:14:54,640 Speaker 10: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show. 3131 03:15:15,480 --> 03:15:18,080 Speaker 3: And Grand Rising family. Thanks for rolling with us on 3132 03:15:18,120 --> 03:15:20,800 Speaker 3: this Wednesday morning and Christmas Eve for some folks celebrating 3133 03:15:20,879 --> 03:15:23,600 Speaker 3: Christmas if not if we still love you and celebrating 3134 03:15:23,680 --> 03:15:26,560 Speaker 3: Quanja as well. And I guess is the creative concent 3135 03:15:26,640 --> 03:15:28,680 Speaker 3: doctor Milana Kurenga. Before we go back to him, let 3136 03:15:28,760 --> 03:15:30,520 Speaker 3: me just remind you tomorrow we're going to be joined 3137 03:15:30,520 --> 03:15:34,200 Speaker 3: by a clinical psychologist, doctor jerome E. Fox. You know 3138 03:15:34,280 --> 03:15:36,360 Speaker 3: him from his best selling workbook Addicted to White The 3139 03:15:36,400 --> 03:15:39,360 Speaker 3: Oppressed in League of the Oppressor, a shame based alliance. 3140 03:15:39,640 --> 03:15:42,560 Speaker 3: So uh Doctr Krank, I'll let you finish responding to 3141 03:15:42,959 --> 03:15:45,320 Speaker 3: I think it was Bob's call from Buffalo. He wanted 3142 03:15:45,360 --> 03:15:45,960 Speaker 3: to talk about. 3143 03:15:46,320 --> 03:15:50,320 Speaker 9: Uh, yeah, yeah, And so the question you asked before 3144 03:15:50,360 --> 03:15:53,200 Speaker 9: you left is I should say, Nana is our con 3145 03:15:53,800 --> 03:15:59,840 Speaker 9: for someone worthy of respect, high honor, and uh you know, 3146 03:16:00,000 --> 03:16:02,840 Speaker 9: some people use it for live people, but in our 3147 03:16:02,920 --> 03:16:06,480 Speaker 9: organization US, we use it mainly for people who've made 3148 03:16:06,560 --> 03:16:10,039 Speaker 9: transition and ascension. And so we say that for those 3149 03:16:10,240 --> 03:16:14,440 Speaker 9: who the ancestors, We use that for ancestors. So I say, 3150 03:16:14,720 --> 03:16:20,840 Speaker 9: Nana Jamil alamein, Nana Assachi Shakur. So I was getting 3151 03:16:20,840 --> 03:16:22,400 Speaker 9: ready to go too long on this, so let me 3152 03:16:22,440 --> 03:16:25,360 Speaker 9: just sum up what I think about them. I say 3153 03:16:25,400 --> 03:16:29,840 Speaker 9: it most. They are major freedom fighters in our history, 3154 03:16:30,120 --> 03:16:34,880 Speaker 9: in our long and beautiful history of righteous and relentless struggle. 3155 03:16:35,200 --> 03:16:38,120 Speaker 9: And I honor them, and our organization honors them for 3156 03:16:38,280 --> 03:16:44,439 Speaker 9: one their commitment to their struggle, second their record of struggle, 3157 03:16:44,920 --> 03:16:48,200 Speaker 9: and third their service to the people and love of 3158 03:16:48,240 --> 03:16:52,199 Speaker 9: the people that is shown by their service and struggle 3159 03:16:52,440 --> 03:16:55,080 Speaker 9: for the people. And I'd like to honor each of 3160 03:16:55,160 --> 03:17:00,640 Speaker 9: them with one of the signature quotes from them. First, 3161 03:17:00,680 --> 03:17:04,560 Speaker 9: let me take uh uh Nana Asata Chakot. 3162 03:17:04,640 --> 03:17:04,920 Speaker 12: First. 3163 03:17:05,200 --> 03:17:07,840 Speaker 9: She says, it is our duty to fight for freedom. 3164 03:17:08,160 --> 03:17:10,840 Speaker 9: It is our duty to win we must love each 3165 03:17:10,840 --> 03:17:13,760 Speaker 9: other and support each other. We have nothing to lose 3166 03:17:14,080 --> 03:17:16,840 Speaker 9: but our change, and so that's a lesson here. 3167 03:17:17,320 --> 03:17:22,240 Speaker 21: We are obligated, morally obligated to struggle, and that's central 3168 03:17:22,360 --> 03:17:25,480 Speaker 21: to their lives, to her life, into the life of 3169 03:17:25,640 --> 03:17:28,080 Speaker 21: Nana Jama uh Aman. 3170 03:17:29,120 --> 03:17:35,080 Speaker 9: All of them did very much for h Jamia, Nana 3171 03:17:35,160 --> 03:17:39,240 Speaker 9: Jamil Alami or Imam Jamil, Imam Jamel of course had 3172 03:17:39,280 --> 03:17:41,280 Speaker 9: a chance to work in the country and do more, 3173 03:17:41,680 --> 03:17:45,200 Speaker 9: but also Asacha made a contribution and left to some 3174 03:17:45,480 --> 03:17:50,800 Speaker 9: model of dedication, discipline and psychophight that both of them had, 3175 03:17:50,840 --> 03:17:53,400 Speaker 9: and we honored them. And the one I wanted to 3176 03:17:53,440 --> 03:17:56,760 Speaker 9: live for. The quote I want to use for a 3177 03:17:56,840 --> 03:18:01,320 Speaker 9: mom jamiel h Nana in mom Jamil is that he says, 3178 03:18:01,840 --> 03:18:05,600 Speaker 9: you know that we must never expect justice from our 3179 03:18:05,720 --> 03:18:10,200 Speaker 9: pressure while I was struggling to in fact extract justice. 3180 03:18:10,320 --> 03:18:12,880 Speaker 9: He reminds me of not an Aphil of Randolph and 3181 03:18:12,959 --> 03:18:17,440 Speaker 9: said that freedom is not given right, it's one, and 3182 03:18:17,800 --> 03:18:22,840 Speaker 9: justice is not granted, it's extracted. And so he believes that, 3183 03:18:22,959 --> 03:18:26,920 Speaker 9: and he says, I in a country as oppressive and 3184 03:18:27,080 --> 03:18:32,000 Speaker 9: evil as this, there's only three places for a righteous 3185 03:18:32,240 --> 03:18:37,520 Speaker 9: and committed person that is on the battlefield, fighting the enemy, 3186 03:18:37,840 --> 03:18:41,280 Speaker 9: in a seal, imprisoned by the enemy, or in the 3187 03:18:41,280 --> 03:18:44,360 Speaker 9: grave free from the enemy. So it's a struggle to 3188 03:18:44,400 --> 03:18:48,800 Speaker 9: the death. And he became a shahid, a martyr, a 3189 03:18:48,920 --> 03:18:52,039 Speaker 9: witness to the faith, a witness for his people, a 3190 03:18:52,120 --> 03:18:58,000 Speaker 9: witness to the world right, dying in prison on a 3191 03:18:58,080 --> 03:19:01,800 Speaker 9: trumptive choice. And we and we also, I wanted to 3192 03:19:01,800 --> 03:19:04,760 Speaker 9: say about the Cuban people. I really respect them for 3193 03:19:05,000 --> 03:19:10,000 Speaker 9: not caving in to the white man demanding putting two million, 3194 03:19:10,080 --> 03:19:15,199 Speaker 9: three million whatever meetians own Nona as Sacha Shoku's head 3195 03:19:15,520 --> 03:19:19,080 Speaker 9: and asking people to buck and bow and bend over 3196 03:19:19,720 --> 03:19:22,120 Speaker 9: to serve him. So that was a good thing. And 3197 03:19:22,160 --> 03:19:25,040 Speaker 9: I do want to run past that. We have a 3198 03:19:25,080 --> 03:19:27,640 Speaker 9: lot of respect for the Cuban people and for the 3199 03:19:27,680 --> 03:19:32,039 Speaker 9: struggle they weighed against them peerless and continue to weigh 3200 03:19:32,160 --> 03:19:37,320 Speaker 9: overwhelming odds. So yeah, I honor both of these soldiers. 3201 03:19:38,160 --> 03:19:39,560 Speaker 9: Thank you so much for the question. 3202 03:19:40,240 --> 03:19:42,240 Speaker 3: Fourteen away from the top of the Cliff's calling us 3203 03:19:42,280 --> 03:19:45,280 Speaker 3: some Connecticut these online five grand rising Cliff, your question 3204 03:19:45,360 --> 03:19:46,080 Speaker 3: for doctor. 3205 03:19:45,879 --> 03:19:51,000 Speaker 19: Karenga, grandprising brother Carl and grandfathers and doctor Korenger. Let's 3206 03:19:51,000 --> 03:19:53,240 Speaker 19: just taking my call. Listen, I think you said it's 3207 03:19:53,240 --> 03:19:55,680 Speaker 19: a very profound and that's what I'm experiencing myself on 3208 03:19:55,680 --> 03:19:56,520 Speaker 19: a personal level. 3209 03:19:56,560 --> 03:19:58,080 Speaker 9: Then I have an end with a question. 3210 03:19:58,640 --> 03:20:02,280 Speaker 19: But when I look at white Christian nationalists and look 3211 03:20:02,320 --> 03:20:06,000 Speaker 19: at white Christians and then they're celebrating this Christmas, even 3212 03:20:06,080 --> 03:20:08,960 Speaker 19: Mega people. So I'm saying to myself, how can I 3213 03:20:09,000 --> 03:20:13,320 Speaker 19: celebrate a holiday in which people that hate us, particularly Trump, 3214 03:20:13,959 --> 03:20:17,040 Speaker 19: you know, especially Trump, you know, that celebrate the same 3215 03:20:17,040 --> 03:20:19,879 Speaker 19: holidays and why as we as black people celebrate the 3216 03:20:19,879 --> 03:20:23,200 Speaker 19: same holiday. So that's why I'm so thankful, you know. 3217 03:20:23,240 --> 03:20:26,800 Speaker 19: And as I span black radio stations, everybody's married Christmas, 3218 03:20:26,840 --> 03:20:30,280 Speaker 19: the whole nine yards, even white conservative So it just 3219 03:20:30,320 --> 03:20:32,760 Speaker 19: doesn't make sense. So I want to thank you on 3220 03:20:32,800 --> 03:20:36,200 Speaker 19: a personal level for giving something that's unique to us 3221 03:20:36,200 --> 03:20:39,120 Speaker 19: as a black people. So I know Mega people ain't 3222 03:20:39,160 --> 03:20:42,800 Speaker 19: gonna celebrate Kwanza. I know Trump ain't gonna celebrate Kwansa. 3223 03:20:43,240 --> 03:20:45,600 Speaker 19: As matter of fact, I'm end with this, And this 3224 03:20:45,640 --> 03:20:48,959 Speaker 19: is my question because if they think that they are 3225 03:20:49,000 --> 03:20:51,840 Speaker 19: they claim to have a God, then it's obvious to 3226 03:20:51,879 --> 03:20:54,760 Speaker 19: me that we have a different God. So give me 3227 03:20:54,840 --> 03:20:59,039 Speaker 19: your answer to do we as a black people. Do 3228 03:20:59,160 --> 03:21:02,800 Speaker 19: we have a guy that's separate from white people? And 3229 03:21:02,879 --> 03:21:04,240 Speaker 19: what's is or its name? 3230 03:21:04,520 --> 03:21:05,080 Speaker 7: Can you do that? 3231 03:21:09,240 --> 03:21:12,959 Speaker 9: Oh? Hang up, listen to your response. Yeah, this is 3232 03:21:13,080 --> 03:21:15,080 Speaker 9: this is a hard way. Now let me let me 3233 03:21:15,120 --> 03:21:18,440 Speaker 9: tell you this though, specially what you said. If I'm saying, 3234 03:21:18,480 --> 03:21:23,600 Speaker 9: kret Kwansa is a cultural holiday that unites all of 3235 03:21:23,680 --> 03:21:30,040 Speaker 9: us uh in spite of our religious differences, our political difference, 3236 03:21:30,120 --> 03:21:37,000 Speaker 9: our class difference, aging generational differences, right, our ability differences, UH, 3237 03:21:37,200 --> 03:21:42,240 Speaker 9: nationality differences, et cetera. So I don't want us to 3238 03:21:42,360 --> 03:21:46,280 Speaker 9: attack other people's faith. That's that's a big mistake in 3239 03:21:46,280 --> 03:21:49,480 Speaker 9: the six is. Though we were very critical of white Christians, 3240 03:21:49,640 --> 03:21:54,240 Speaker 9: but we didn't keep saying white Christiangy. We said Christianity. 3241 03:21:54,640 --> 03:21:56,720 Speaker 9: And I don't want us to do that. I want 3242 03:21:56,800 --> 03:22:00,480 Speaker 9: us to make a distinction between how we practice Christianity, 3243 03:22:00,560 --> 03:22:05,560 Speaker 9: which black Christians have done and progressive Black Christians and 3244 03:22:05,640 --> 03:22:09,440 Speaker 9: radical Black Christians have done. And I want to make 3245 03:22:09,480 --> 03:22:13,840 Speaker 9: a distincion between that our Christian Black Christianity and white 3246 03:22:13,920 --> 03:22:18,280 Speaker 9: christianswer white Christianity. When we met, it wasn't enslavery in Christianity. 3247 03:22:18,280 --> 03:22:22,280 Speaker 9: In fact, this is hijia. Malcolm and messenger Mohammed or 3248 03:22:22,360 --> 03:22:25,040 Speaker 9: the first first message of Mohammad gives him credit, and 3249 03:22:25,240 --> 03:22:29,000 Speaker 9: he taught Malcolm and Jijia. Malcolm then made his own 3250 03:22:29,080 --> 03:22:31,960 Speaker 9: understanding of this, right. But it was the mess with 3251 03:22:32,000 --> 03:22:36,480 Speaker 9: Mohammed at first problematized Christianity in a way it had 3252 03:22:36,560 --> 03:22:43,680 Speaker 9: never been problematized and called for another interpretation of Jesus. Right. 3253 03:22:44,280 --> 03:22:46,800 Speaker 9: Not only did they begin to say Jesus was black, 3254 03:22:47,120 --> 03:22:52,039 Speaker 9: but they talked about Jesus teaching liberation as instead of enslavement. 3255 03:22:52,400 --> 03:22:56,520 Speaker 9: If you remember, the Christians enslaved us, and the Christians 3256 03:22:56,560 --> 03:23:01,560 Speaker 9: taught us a catechism of enslavement. And as nana E. 3257 03:23:01,720 --> 03:23:05,600 Speaker 9: Franklin Praiser said, the questions went like this, what is 3258 03:23:06,600 --> 03:23:09,680 Speaker 9: my duty to God? It is my duty to my Master? 3259 03:23:10,040 --> 03:23:13,680 Speaker 9: How do I serve God by serving my Master? Why 3260 03:23:13,720 --> 03:23:17,600 Speaker 9: am I in this condition because I'm an evil being? 3261 03:23:17,840 --> 03:23:21,920 Speaker 9: Et said, So we had to fall out of that 3262 03:23:22,360 --> 03:23:25,959 Speaker 9: a liberational response, right, and so we had to take 3263 03:23:26,280 --> 03:23:30,720 Speaker 9: a liberation of theology. That's the beginning of liberation theology, 3264 03:23:31,440 --> 03:23:35,280 Speaker 9: as spoken by turn None in that Turner right, noe 3265 03:23:35,280 --> 03:23:39,160 Speaker 9: a hero tell me none a here tell me say 3266 03:23:39,280 --> 03:23:41,160 Speaker 9: I don't let the white people tell me how to pray. 3267 03:23:41,280 --> 03:23:44,320 Speaker 9: I pray to God myself and I pray that God 3268 03:23:44,480 --> 03:23:47,560 Speaker 9: will help me to be strong to fight for the 3269 03:23:47,560 --> 03:23:51,320 Speaker 9: freedom of my people. And I also pray that if 3270 03:23:51,320 --> 03:23:55,120 Speaker 9: the white man don't change, that God would take him 3271 03:23:55,160 --> 03:23:58,400 Speaker 9: off the planet. Right. This was her prayer. Right, So 3272 03:23:58,480 --> 03:24:02,600 Speaker 9: that's a little different. By still a Christian. The Christianity 3273 03:24:02,680 --> 03:24:05,080 Speaker 9: to my mother and father is altogether different. It's not 3274 03:24:05,160 --> 03:24:09,560 Speaker 9: a prosperity gospel, right, That's that's acting as we do 3275 03:24:09,959 --> 03:24:13,800 Speaker 9: as our pressor our presser cannot be our teacher. The 3276 03:24:13,959 --> 03:24:17,240 Speaker 9: Christianity I remember came up in and was a part of, 3277 03:24:18,400 --> 03:24:24,359 Speaker 9: was the Christianity for the dispossessed, the devalue, the degraded, 3278 03:24:24,640 --> 03:24:29,800 Speaker 9: the downtriden. And it was always taught that we my 3279 03:24:29,920 --> 03:24:35,440 Speaker 9: mother and father taught me to do for the phrases 3280 03:24:35,480 --> 03:24:39,120 Speaker 9: from Matthew the least among us, and that's how they 3281 03:24:39,160 --> 03:24:42,600 Speaker 9: said Jesus would judge us how we treat the least 3282 03:24:42,640 --> 03:24:45,600 Speaker 9: among us, And now we say the most vulnerable. So 3283 03:24:45,720 --> 03:24:49,720 Speaker 9: let's talk about the positive of Black Christianity. Don't get 3284 03:24:49,720 --> 03:24:51,280 Speaker 9: off of that, because what I want us to do 3285 03:24:51,520 --> 03:24:55,400 Speaker 9: is talk about the ethics. Do our people believe in 3286 03:24:56,200 --> 03:25:00,280 Speaker 9: speaking truth, doing justice? See I do I want argue 3287 03:25:00,320 --> 03:25:03,400 Speaker 9: about God? I mean that, howd you Malcolm said that? 3288 03:25:03,520 --> 03:25:05,720 Speaker 9: Peeples said, keep the religion in the closet. We come 3289 03:25:05,760 --> 03:25:07,920 Speaker 9: out here, let's talk about the problem of black people. 3290 03:25:08,160 --> 03:25:10,720 Speaker 9: Now he brought his religion. He knows that the Christians 3291 03:25:10,720 --> 03:25:13,160 Speaker 9: he's talking to got their religion. What he meant is, 3292 03:25:13,320 --> 03:25:16,440 Speaker 9: let's not ugle over theology. Let's not argue about God, 3293 03:25:16,520 --> 03:25:21,000 Speaker 9: and let's show our good words by the ethical things 3294 03:25:21,040 --> 03:25:23,680 Speaker 9: we do in the world. What are we doing to 3295 03:25:23,760 --> 03:25:27,560 Speaker 9: help the people? Do we speak truth? Do we do justice? 3296 03:25:27,840 --> 03:25:30,760 Speaker 9: Do we care for the poor and avulnerable? Do we 3297 03:25:30,800 --> 03:25:34,120 Speaker 9: have a rightful relationship with them? Involve Do we honor 3298 03:25:34,560 --> 03:25:37,199 Speaker 9: our elders and our answers? Do we cherish and challenge 3299 03:25:37,200 --> 03:25:40,440 Speaker 9: our children? Right? Do we do that? Do we oppose 3300 03:25:40,560 --> 03:25:45,360 Speaker 9: evil and justice and oppression? And do we always raise 3301 03:25:45,400 --> 03:25:49,440 Speaker 9: their praise and pursue the good? That's what I'm looking for, right? 3302 03:25:49,760 --> 03:25:52,160 Speaker 9: And so we can call God by many names. You 3303 03:25:52,160 --> 03:25:54,960 Speaker 9: know I got I got many names before God in 3304 03:25:55,000 --> 03:26:00,320 Speaker 9: my scholarship and text for African people, for example, Ama 3305 03:26:00,840 --> 03:26:04,599 Speaker 9: in the dogone this is this is real there, Jesus 3306 03:26:04,320 --> 03:26:10,480 Speaker 9: and Jehovah and you always right, oh do Mari and 3307 03:26:10,600 --> 03:26:15,280 Speaker 9: then in for tradition from kulukulu uh in the Zulu tradition. 3308 03:26:15,560 --> 03:26:18,360 Speaker 9: I know them all, I said it right, I don't. 3309 03:26:19,120 --> 03:26:22,680 Speaker 9: Those names are just different names for God. But if 3310 03:26:22,720 --> 03:26:25,920 Speaker 9: they believe that this is God, and this is God 3311 03:26:25,959 --> 03:26:30,240 Speaker 9: of the whole universe, right, right, then I accept that. 3312 03:26:30,400 --> 03:26:32,360 Speaker 9: I just want to see what they do with it, right, 3313 03:26:32,440 --> 03:26:34,320 Speaker 9: That's what I want to do. I wouldn't see their 3314 03:26:34,360 --> 03:26:39,080 Speaker 9: work the good words. What do they do to bring 3315 03:26:39,120 --> 03:26:42,360 Speaker 9: good into the world. That's that's my Jestey, And do 3316 03:26:42,480 --> 03:26:46,480 Speaker 9: they do things that are three criteria I've said it earlier. 3317 03:26:46,879 --> 03:26:51,320 Speaker 9: Are they dignity affirming of the human person right, respect 3318 03:26:51,360 --> 03:26:57,160 Speaker 9: and dignity this inherent worthiness? Second, are they legendhancing? And 3319 03:26:57,280 --> 03:27:01,840 Speaker 9: third or they were preserving? How did they help the 3320 03:27:02,000 --> 03:27:10,000 Speaker 9: world to survive this own slot by imperist capitalists, warmongers 3321 03:27:10,040 --> 03:27:14,560 Speaker 9: and other people who are anti human and anti nature. 3322 03:27:16,120 --> 03:27:20,240 Speaker 9: That's the issue. Asanto Doo, Thanks so much for the question. 3323 03:27:20,480 --> 03:27:21,160 Speaker 9: It was a good one. 3324 03:27:22,280 --> 03:27:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Seven away from the top y. There's a question 3325 03:27:24,800 --> 03:27:26,560 Speaker 3: somebody sent you a couple of days when they found 3326 03:27:26,560 --> 03:27:28,480 Speaker 3: out you were coming on It says, how do we 3327 03:27:28,720 --> 03:27:31,800 Speaker 3: keep quanca from being co opted and revised by others 3328 03:27:31,840 --> 03:27:34,000 Speaker 3: outside the black community or the black family. 3329 03:27:35,200 --> 03:27:38,879 Speaker 9: Gibel. You know, the best way is to practice it right. 3330 03:27:39,320 --> 03:27:42,280 Speaker 9: So I think there are several things that are important here. 3331 03:27:43,760 --> 03:27:47,360 Speaker 9: So we have to start from this position to defend 3332 03:27:47,520 --> 03:27:54,440 Speaker 9: and promote the integrity, the beauty and expansive meaning of Quanta. 3333 03:27:55,600 --> 03:28:00,200 Speaker 9: We've got to study black people. We kids just then 3334 03:28:00,360 --> 03:28:05,840 Speaker 9: practicing said sixty seven or eight whatever. You can't do that. 3335 03:28:05,920 --> 03:28:08,280 Speaker 9: Sometimes people say they did it in sixty five, which 3336 03:28:08,320 --> 03:28:10,920 Speaker 9: of course is not so because it was just in 3337 03:28:10,959 --> 03:28:15,160 Speaker 9: an organization that that. Well, first Quanta didn't come to 3338 03:28:15,920 --> 03:28:18,520 Speaker 9: sixty six. It was sixty five the principal. So you know, 3339 03:28:18,600 --> 03:28:20,520 Speaker 9: you got to get the day straight. But the main 3340 03:28:20,560 --> 03:28:23,600 Speaker 9: thing is read and get you know, even if you 3341 03:28:23,600 --> 03:28:27,120 Speaker 9: don't have time or don't want to again't read the 3342 03:28:27,160 --> 03:28:31,360 Speaker 9: whole book, which you're good. Go to our website, the 3343 03:28:31,480 --> 03:28:36,000 Speaker 9: official Consit website to study it. It's outline. It's just 3344 03:28:36,080 --> 03:28:40,160 Speaker 9: short versus a summary. It's the answer to regular questions 3345 03:28:40,160 --> 03:28:45,440 Speaker 9: even like this. To study that, then ask yourself, how 3346 03:28:45,560 --> 03:28:49,720 Speaker 9: do you protect integrity? Now you're asking that about commercial 3347 03:28:49,840 --> 03:28:53,039 Speaker 9: all that, But you have to defend it right. You 3348 03:28:53,120 --> 03:28:56,680 Speaker 9: have to defend it. The first thing, don't allow people 3349 03:28:57,320 --> 03:29:02,600 Speaker 9: to rewrite the original meaning of the principles. For example, 3350 03:29:03,320 --> 03:29:06,520 Speaker 9: the meaning of emoja is to strive for a maintain 3351 03:29:07,080 --> 03:29:10,960 Speaker 9: unit in the family, community, nation of race. You got 3352 03:29:11,000 --> 03:29:14,600 Speaker 9: to say that. You can say something about explain it later, 3353 03:29:15,120 --> 03:29:18,879 Speaker 9: but don't change that, because that's what's united us, that's 3354 03:29:18,879 --> 03:29:23,000 Speaker 9: the common thing. It's like if the Christians would change 3355 03:29:23,680 --> 03:29:26,440 Speaker 9: the tak Commandments, if I can say that, or if 3356 03:29:26,560 --> 03:29:31,080 Speaker 9: the Buddhists changed the Eightfold Path the wording No, you 3357 03:29:31,160 --> 03:29:34,680 Speaker 9: can explain it, but don't change the original text because 3358 03:29:34,720 --> 03:29:36,879 Speaker 9: that's what we're going to talk about, and then we 3359 03:29:36,920 --> 03:29:40,959 Speaker 9: can show the expansive meaning of each of those right. Right. 3360 03:29:42,400 --> 03:29:46,120 Speaker 9: Sometimes I saw one time that person took out to 3361 03:29:46,160 --> 03:29:51,000 Speaker 9: make our brothers and sisters problems for oujima and solve 3362 03:29:51,040 --> 03:29:54,160 Speaker 9: them together and put to solve the problems of the community. No, 3363 03:29:54,640 --> 03:29:59,080 Speaker 9: it's important that inclusiveness brother and sister for a lot 3364 03:29:59,160 --> 03:30:02,320 Speaker 9: of reasons. First, they're racing the brothers, right, but also 3365 03:30:02,760 --> 03:30:06,600 Speaker 9: for a long time the sisters weren't considered equal, and 3366 03:30:06,640 --> 03:30:10,240 Speaker 9: so we've got to always foreground brother and sister creating 3367 03:30:10,240 --> 03:30:13,160 Speaker 9: a good world. We won male and female creating a 3368 03:30:13,240 --> 03:30:16,320 Speaker 9: good world we all want and then all human beings. Right, 3369 03:30:16,480 --> 03:30:19,480 Speaker 9: But that's the model, so you can add to it. 3370 03:30:19,600 --> 03:30:22,959 Speaker 9: You can say, look, and also I think this is 3371 03:30:23,000 --> 03:30:26,000 Speaker 9: speaking to all humans. Right. You can say that afterwards, 3372 03:30:26,040 --> 03:30:31,480 Speaker 9: but first say what the what the discussion is the 3373 03:30:31,520 --> 03:30:35,640 Speaker 9: second thing we have to resist the air in hand 3374 03:30:36,160 --> 03:30:42,000 Speaker 9: and highlands and handmaidens attempt to recreate a to create 3375 03:30:42,040 --> 03:30:47,199 Speaker 9: a false narrative of who created Quanta right back. People's 3376 03:30:47,360 --> 03:30:50,920 Speaker 9: like saying, my life didn't create Quansas Alight, somebody else 3377 03:30:51,000 --> 03:30:54,080 Speaker 9: did it. The ancestors did it, a little girl did it, 3378 03:30:54,200 --> 03:30:58,040 Speaker 9: the person somewhere in the mayor. They're just going off 3379 03:30:58,040 --> 03:31:01,280 Speaker 9: into it. And then it's not that people, But it 3380 03:31:01,879 --> 03:31:05,400 Speaker 9: could great if you don't say, look, first of all, 3381 03:31:05,640 --> 03:31:09,279 Speaker 9: this is wrong. The first reason this shouldn't happen because 3382 03:31:09,320 --> 03:31:14,879 Speaker 9: it's false. That's the first reason checond It denies the 3383 03:31:15,000 --> 03:31:21,039 Speaker 9: excellence and uniqueness of my achievement. Years of research and 3384 03:31:21,120 --> 03:31:28,720 Speaker 9: study right and and and imagining right and conceiving something 3385 03:31:28,800 --> 03:31:33,040 Speaker 9: of value and beauty that means of people have embraced. 3386 03:31:33,760 --> 03:31:36,480 Speaker 9: It took years to do that. It took language learning, 3387 03:31:36,600 --> 03:31:40,160 Speaker 9: culture learning, right as it say. 3388 03:31:41,840 --> 03:31:43,480 Speaker 3: I gotta cut you there, because it's just flat out 3389 03:31:43,520 --> 03:31:45,720 Speaker 3: of time. But I want to thank you. Thank you 3390 03:31:45,800 --> 03:31:48,520 Speaker 3: for what you've done, thank you for creating Quanta and 3391 03:31:48,640 --> 03:31:50,680 Speaker 3: beyond that, what you've done for our folks. If you've 3392 03:31:50,680 --> 03:31:52,320 Speaker 3: been on the front line, and you're still on the 3393 03:31:52,320 --> 03:31:54,720 Speaker 3: front line. So just we appreciate you, brother. 3394 03:31:54,640 --> 03:31:58,119 Speaker 9: Thank you, Thank you. Continue to struggle, keep the space 3395 03:31:58,480 --> 03:32:00,520 Speaker 9: and hold the line and practice the principles. 3396 03:32:00,560 --> 03:32:04,080 Speaker 3: Thanks so much, doctor Milana Kranka. That's it for the day. 3397 03:32:04,160 --> 03:32:07,680 Speaker 3: Family classes dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, and he says, 3398 03:32:07,720 --> 03:32:10,360 Speaker 3: please stay healthy. 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