WEBVTT - Lioness Season 3 0:00:01.690 --> 0:00:04.570 The frames per second podcast all. 0:00:04.210 --> 0:00:12.520 Right welcome to the frames per second podcast where we 0:00:12.740 --> 0:00:16.299 are reviewing the latest season of i think it's safe 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:18.139 to say i'm gonna steal nick's line that this is 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.579 a hit been seeing a lot of people talk about 0:00:20.620 --> 0:00:23.049 this show uh it seems like it's gaining a lot 0:00:23.070 --> 0:00:27.550 of traction snowballed because this is season three yeah And 0:00:28.010 --> 0:00:30.830 now everyone is talking about this show. 0:00:30.850 --> 0:00:35.670 I am joined by my esteemed cast. What's up, Ms. 0:00:35.710 --> 0:00:39.669 Naturally Nay? Hey. What's up, Rob? 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:41.020 What up, bro? 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:43.840 And what up, Ken? Hola. 0:00:45.380 --> 0:00:47.920 Thank you guys for joining us here. So I'm going 0:00:47.940 --> 0:00:50.380 to go around the room, see what y'all thought about lioness. Ken, 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.060 I'm going to start with you since you were later 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.529 to get into it and just, you got a fresh 0:00:54.910 --> 0:00:57.330 watching of it. Uh, so tell me what you think 0:00:57.370 --> 0:00:57.850 about this show. 0:00:59.610 --> 0:01:02.390 Um, I enjoy it. I enjoy it a lot. I 0:01:02.670 --> 0:01:05.259 love the politics of it. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.360 Some of my favorite scenes isn't really any of the 0:01:09.500 --> 0:01:11.720 action is when they're in the, in the big boy room, 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.740 when they talk a bit, wash it, you know, um, So, yeah, 0:01:15.780 --> 0:01:20.800 that's what I love hearing, like, the different dialogue there that, 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.450 you know, has some truth and lies to it. So 0:01:24.550 --> 0:01:29.810 it's up for us to discern which one's what. But, nah, 0:01:29.990 --> 0:01:34.090 it's good, man. I get the hype. I thought it 0:01:34.810 --> 0:01:38.270 was going to move a lot faster than it did 0:01:38.290 --> 0:01:41.740 in terms of the action. But I was, especially with 0:01:41.780 --> 0:01:45.370 how many people were talking about the show, So I 0:01:45.410 --> 0:01:49.210 thought it was a blend of, of like action and, 0:01:49.390 --> 0:01:52.770 you know, covert government espionage and all the other stuff. 0:01:53.270 --> 0:01:55.090 So I was surprised a little bit by the pacing, 0:01:55.130 --> 0:01:57.370 but nevertheless, I think is, is good. And they do 0:01:57.390 --> 0:02:01.010 a good job of kind of presenting these scenarios. Um, 0:02:01.310 --> 0:02:05.480 but yeah, I enjoyed and, uh, just all of you 0:02:05.500 --> 0:02:08.160 guys talking about it, you know, encouraged me to go 0:02:08.180 --> 0:02:10.820 ahead and just move it up my, my list. So 0:02:11.139 --> 0:02:13.520 before I hand it off just for additional context for 0:02:13.580 --> 0:02:20.040 people listening, Um, yeah, last I've just powered through what, uh, 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:27.460 a 12 episodes since eight 39 o'clock last night, uh, 0:02:27.540 --> 0:02:30.320 just to prepare for this, but I was hooked. 0:02:31.220 --> 0:02:31.720 I was hooked. 0:02:31.780 --> 0:02:33.859 So I was curious to see what all the hype 0:02:33.900 --> 0:02:37.609 were was about. Um, and I was definitely looking forward 0:02:37.630 --> 0:02:40.350 to talking about it with, with you all and given 0:02:40.370 --> 0:02:44.070 a lot of discussion around episode season three, I mean, 0:02:44.460 --> 0:02:46.980 I mean, um, I definitely was looking forward to getting 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:49.740 into that to see what, what season three was all 0:02:49.780 --> 0:02:50.240 about too. 0:02:52.300 --> 0:02:52.870 I love it. 0:02:53.340 --> 0:02:54.419 Miss Nate, what about you? 0:02:55.580 --> 0:02:56.750 Oh yeah, I love this show. 0:02:56.870 --> 0:03:00.709 This is, um, this was, so I've been watching since 0:03:00.750 --> 0:03:05.490 season two, um, Um, the, the viral clip between Zoe 0:03:05.530 --> 0:03:08.410 Saldana and the pilot is what got me to watching 0:03:08.490 --> 0:03:12.840 it when it came out last, when last season came out. So, um, yeah, 0:03:12.900 --> 0:03:15.300 for all intents and purposes, I should not like this show. 0:03:15.380 --> 0:03:17.079 None of this is stuff that I like. I'm not 0:03:17.100 --> 0:03:20.489 a big politics like show fan. I'm not a big 0:03:20.669 --> 0:03:23.340 army action girl, but I think that they do a 0:03:23.380 --> 0:03:30.620 really good job of interweaving the dramatic, emotional, the drama 0:03:30.660 --> 0:03:32.620 between Jo and her family. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.700 I think they've done a really good job of building. 0:03:35.410 --> 0:03:38.430 Characters that even though I don't know a whole bunch about, 0:03:38.510 --> 0:03:43.310 I'm invested in. And then you have all of this. 0:03:43.550 --> 0:03:46.680 That makes the politics and the action interesting to me. 0:03:47.130 --> 0:03:49.140 So no, I'm a really big fan of this show. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:50.820 Nice. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:52.800 Okay, Ron, what about you? 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.440 Yeah, man, I think this is a good show. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.560 Like, seriously, it's interesting because, like I said, Nate came 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.300 on in the second season, and I remember her watching 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.740 it around the house. I wasn't on it. I mean, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.820 I wasn't watching it with her. This is one of 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:14.100 those shows that we just weren't watching together. But I 0:04:14.660 --> 0:04:18.110 used to see it on television sometimes, just passing through 0:04:18.350 --> 0:04:20.729 the house. And I was like, oh, that looked interesting. 0:04:20.770 --> 0:04:22.450 I think I actually sat down and watched like a 0:04:22.510 --> 0:04:25.169 scene or two here and there or whatever. I was like, oh, yeah, 0:04:25.190 --> 0:04:26.450 this is something I want to get into. But I 0:04:26.450 --> 0:04:28.750 didn't want to get into a dare where she was, 0:04:28.830 --> 0:04:31.190 you know, any time or something like that that she's watching. 0:04:31.210 --> 0:04:33.300 I always want to at least go back and start 0:04:33.310 --> 0:04:33.960 from the beginning. 0:04:33.980 --> 0:04:37.240 So I'll start intently just not looking at it when 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.020 I see she has it on or something or I'll 0:04:39.060 --> 0:04:45.500 go to another room. And I can't remember what brought 0:04:45.540 --> 0:04:48.000 me back around to it. Did you tell me like, yo, no, 0:04:48.020 --> 0:04:49.080 you really need to watch the show? 0:04:49.529 --> 0:04:50.469 Right. 0:04:50.529 --> 0:04:52.730 When season three kicked off, I was like, I think 0:04:52.750 --> 0:04:53.789 you need to watch this. 0:04:53.890 --> 0:04:54.089 Right. 0:04:54.570 --> 0:04:55.930 So she was just like, okay, I know you just 0:04:55.950 --> 0:04:57.770 kind of been avoiding it for all this time, but 0:04:57.810 --> 0:04:59.180 you know, I think you really need to watch it. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:00.159 I was like, all right. Yeah. 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.320 I don't mind. I never had an issue with watching. 0:05:02.339 --> 0:05:03.760 I just, you know, y'all know how I am. I 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:07.359 don't really have time for shows like that. And then, uh, 0:05:07.500 --> 0:05:09.300 when I heard the season three was coming out, I 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:10.820 was like, all right, let me see if I can 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:15.480 catch up. So yeah, I basically started binging it or whatever. Um, 0:05:15.740 --> 0:05:19.060 and getting caught up to, um, season three. And, yeah, 0:05:19.290 --> 0:05:21.110 it was enjoyable, man. I was like, oh, yeah, this 0:05:21.170 --> 0:05:23.510 is a really good show. They do this really well. 0:05:24.029 --> 0:05:25.590 And kind of like what Nate was saying, they do 0:05:25.630 --> 0:05:32.770 a good job with military slash real-world life stuff. And 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.900 I think that's where they really, really exceed. And I 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.900 think the acting is really good in this. There's so 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.739 many good performers in this show. 0:05:41.779 --> 0:05:43.780 So, yeah, I rock with it a lot. 0:05:45.180 --> 0:05:45.540 Perfect. 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.089 Everybody's on board. I, too, rocked with it. I started 0:05:49.130 --> 0:05:53.550 at the beginning. I'm Taylor Sheridan is I watch a 0:05:53.550 --> 0:05:54.130 lot of his shows. 0:05:54.250 --> 0:05:54.810 I'm invested. 0:05:54.830 --> 0:05:57.360 So I knew about it when it started. And, yeah, 0:05:57.570 --> 0:05:59.680 I mean, it used to be a lot more action. 0:05:59.779 --> 0:06:02.060 I do like that the dialogue picked up this season 0:06:02.540 --> 0:06:05.360 because I'm totally the opposite of what you were explaining 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.750 in the sense of I'm here for the politics and 0:06:07.790 --> 0:06:10.810 the other stuff. But it does make the family stuff 0:06:10.870 --> 0:06:12.930 and all the other things more interesting to me. 0:06:12.970 --> 0:06:14.110 So it's a complete reverse. 0:06:14.650 --> 0:06:18.029 But I think they do all of the things well 0:06:19.010 --> 0:06:20.890 in the sense of they don't spend too much time 0:06:21.510 --> 0:06:23.390 in any of the worlds where you roll in your 0:06:23.529 --> 0:06:25.650 eyes like, OK, this is enough. Like they give you 0:06:25.710 --> 0:06:29.230 just enough to where you always interested in the next 0:06:29.270 --> 0:06:32.469 thing that's happening in this show. So I am definitely 0:06:32.510 --> 0:06:34.830 here for it as well. There is a similar show 0:06:34.870 --> 0:06:37.210 to this is damn near the same thing. It's called 0:06:37.310 --> 0:06:40.480 The Agency. For people that like this show and is 0:06:40.500 --> 0:06:43.599 looking for something like it, but it's the same exact 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.740 thing down here with less action, with more dialogue. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.400 So let's get into it. Season one was titled The 0:06:50.460 --> 0:06:51.790 Spider and the Fly. 0:06:52.730 --> 0:06:58.409 This starts with the Cold Foreign Operation where Jo and 0:06:58.450 --> 0:07:03.850 her team go to get Aleski Urimov. They get this 0:07:03.890 --> 0:07:06.950 from a honeypot who is a CIA agent. 0:07:08.220 --> 0:07:09.700 Well, you guys, so I'm. 0:07:09.620 --> 0:07:11.260 Going to go, we're going to skip around and hit 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:13.230 the big points just to make sure we ain't here 0:07:13.260 --> 0:07:16.590 all night. But the lady that was introduced that gave 0:07:16.630 --> 0:07:19.310 them the foreign ad said, were y'all skeptical of her 0:07:19.530 --> 0:07:21.730 at all before it came out that more stuff was 0:07:21.750 --> 0:07:22.190 going on? 0:07:22.230 --> 0:07:23.830 Where were you with it on her name? 0:07:24.590 --> 0:07:26.530 Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's the thing. 0:07:26.750 --> 0:07:31.270 I don't trust nobody in this show except for Joe's crew. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:36.380 So her coming in and kind of offering some intel up, 0:07:36.500 --> 0:07:39.290 I'm like, who is this girl? I don't believe it. 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.420 I'm not here for it. Maybe I just got trust issues, 0:07:42.460 --> 0:07:44.910 but no, I absolutely distrusted her from the gate. 0:07:45.330 --> 0:07:46.200 I never trusted her. 0:07:48.570 --> 0:07:49.470 Ken, what'd you talk about her? 0:07:50.930 --> 0:07:51.970 Oh, yeah, yeah. 0:07:52.050 --> 0:07:55.850 This is where they're normally so buttoned up, bro. And 0:07:56.590 --> 0:07:59.200 then they even told her. 0:07:59.140 --> 0:08:00.920 She was a double agent. So that made it even 0:08:00.980 --> 0:08:01.700 more skeptical. 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.720 So I was really surprised that they kind of went 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.320 along with it, but also kind of wonder if it 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.260 was a little bit of arrogance in there as well. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.740 It's like, they think that they could be and are 0:08:14.780 --> 0:08:18.860 better than the opposition, but yeah, all that stuff. 0:08:18.900 --> 0:08:20.560 Look, look shady. She don't look like she can be 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:21.580 trusted at all. 0:08:23.500 --> 0:08:24.760 Right. Well, you still have to go a little too. 0:08:25.190 --> 0:08:25.630 Yeah. Yeah. 0:08:25.670 --> 0:08:28.610 I think they definitely showed that on the show. Like, 0:08:28.630 --> 0:08:31.840 you know, Just like Ken said, I mean, they start 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.020 off saying she was a double agent. I mean, at 0:08:34.059 --> 0:08:36.350 some points, they were just like, you know, it made 0:08:36.390 --> 0:08:38.229 you kind of like, all right, maybe she is on 0:08:38.270 --> 0:08:40.570 up and up or whatever. But just from the jump, 0:08:40.630 --> 0:08:43.130 it just did not. Just from the accent alone. 0:08:44.790 --> 0:08:48.650 It was something in the eyes, Chico. 0:08:48.690 --> 0:08:51.250 It was always something. I was like, I don't know. 0:08:51.290 --> 0:08:52.800 The eyes, the. 0:08:52.820 --> 0:08:55.860 Accent, everything. It was just like, nah, I don't know 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.260 about that. The music, when she was on screen. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:08:58.540 Yeah. 0:09:00.010 --> 0:09:01.050 All of it. 0:09:01.070 --> 0:09:05.620 So what about Joe's kidnapping, right? In this episode, that's 0:09:05.630 --> 0:09:08.599 the biggest and the major thing that happens. We see 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:13.080 Joe get kidnapped. I know I had questions. Who did it? 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.320 Where's she going? Where's this leading? When she got kidnapped, 0:09:16.340 --> 0:09:17.640 what did that do for you in the sense of 0:09:18.100 --> 0:09:18.660 you and the show? 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.080 I really couldn't believe that that was happening. 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.400 I do like the way they told the story in 0:09:24.420 --> 0:09:26.359 this one because this is different from how they told it. 0:09:27.910 --> 0:09:29.920 in the first two seasons so I was like alright 0:09:29.980 --> 0:09:31.520 cool they're switching it up on us you know what 0:09:31.540 --> 0:09:34.460 I'm saying going back in time and you know sometimes 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:36.520 it takes you a little minute to kind of catch 0:09:36.580 --> 0:09:38.900 up to where they are in the story but I 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:42.309 like that you eventually know where you are in the 0:09:42.390 --> 0:09:45.870 story so it almost like felt like a like a 0:09:45.950 --> 0:09:48.590 serious finale you know I was like man is this 0:09:48.690 --> 0:09:51.480 it I mean you kidnapping the main character like what 0:09:51.980 --> 0:09:54.300 what is going on so so yeah for me I 0:09:54.620 --> 0:09:57.880 I really it really felt like a um. 0:09:58.660 --> 0:10:02.400 But uh but yeah man it was it was super impactful. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.650 Um of of them and it just kind of went 0:10:06.570 --> 0:10:09.570 along to the to the point where you know you 0:10:09.610 --> 0:10:12.170 see it in the first two seasons how you know. 0:10:14.230 --> 0:10:16.430 How she said, like, you'll be tortured. You know what 0:10:16.450 --> 0:10:18.330 I'm saying? So I was just like, oh, man, this 0:10:18.370 --> 0:10:19.360 is about to happen to her. 0:10:19.370 --> 0:10:21.829 So, yeah, I was really interested to see how this 0:10:21.870 --> 0:10:23.790 whole kidnapping played out. 0:10:25.850 --> 0:10:27.339 Hey, I think they did it right in front of 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:29.260 her house. Like, I was like, yo, what? 0:10:30.220 --> 0:10:32.099 That was the strange thing to me that they did 0:10:32.220 --> 0:10:33.880 it right in front of the house. Ken, what did 0:10:33.900 --> 0:10:36.760 you think about the kidnapping? What did you think they 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.120 were taking you this season? Because you had just watched 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:40.000 all of them back to back. 0:10:41.059 --> 0:10:46.110 Well, they opened season two with the kidnapping, so it 0:10:46.150 --> 0:10:48.870 was interesting. They were kind of playing that same note again, 0:10:49.030 --> 0:10:52.050 except with a member from the Lioness. 0:10:51.690 --> 0:10:53.370 Team, actually the main person. 0:10:55.530 --> 0:10:57.090 For me, it was like, how the hell is she 0:10:57.110 --> 0:11:00.689 this damn sloppy to get caught like that? You should 0:11:00.730 --> 0:11:05.420 have been more aware. You should have more situational awareness 0:11:05.540 --> 0:11:08.600 than that. You see this car swerving and all the 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.929 other stuff. You should have been on high alert And 0:11:12.010 --> 0:11:14.329 I was surprised that she got caught like that. 0:11:15.710 --> 0:11:17.890 Are you saying that because they had just tried to 0:11:17.950 --> 0:11:19.680 break in there and get her? 0:11:19.690 --> 0:11:20.790 Or are you just saying in general? 0:11:22.450 --> 0:11:24.670 Both. Both, yes, in general. 0:11:24.690 --> 0:11:25.610 Yeah, yeah. 0:11:27.270 --> 0:11:29.170 Nate, what do you think they was doing with Joe 0:11:29.190 --> 0:11:30.130 when the kidnapping came up? 0:11:30.450 --> 0:11:31.730 So, Cam brought up. 0:11:31.750 --> 0:11:32.390 A good point. 0:11:32.460 --> 0:11:36.400 Like, technically, each season has opened up with a kidnapping. 0:11:36.420 --> 0:11:38.860 The first season, they kidnapped that operative that they ended 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:43.840 up having to blow up. Then they kidnapped the governor, whatever, 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.819 the Senate officer or the congresswoman, whoever, and now they're 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:47.580 kidnapping Joe. 0:11:47.980 --> 0:11:52.199 But, yeah, they've done such a good job of making. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.360 Joe seem so badass and untouchable that I didn't even 0:11:55.380 --> 0:11:56.970 think it was real. I was like, oh, this must 0:11:56.990 --> 0:11:59.050 be one of their training operations like they did with 0:11:59.090 --> 0:12:00.130 Cruz in season one. 0:12:00.170 --> 0:12:02.590 Like, what's going on? I did not think it was real. 0:12:03.970 --> 0:12:05.829 And I certainly didn't think it was going to go 0:12:06.030 --> 0:12:07.310 on for as long as it did. 0:12:07.370 --> 0:12:08.790 I was like, oh, they finna get her in a minute. 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.860 I thought that that was going to be a one, 0:12:13.940 --> 0:12:16.819 two episode thing, just like they was going to get her. 0:12:16.860 --> 0:12:18.500 It was going to get back into them doing some 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.160 other operative overseas with Joe there. But I liked it, though. 0:12:22.220 --> 0:12:23.989 I liked where they stayed with it. It was playing 0:12:24.020 --> 0:12:27.270 a new note. You mentioned the two timeline thing, Rod. 0:12:27.290 --> 0:12:30.209 I saw people complaining about it, but I liked that, too. 0:12:30.690 --> 0:12:33.850 I liked it was discombobulating a little bit, but it 0:12:34.090 --> 0:12:36.650 also made you way more interested. 0:12:36.210 --> 0:12:38.449 In what was going on. Like, okay, this is before... 0:12:39.050 --> 0:12:39.589 or after. 0:12:40.170 --> 0:12:43.380 And they did a special thing of framing the conversations 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.240 to where you really couldn't tell where they were either. 0:12:46.820 --> 0:12:48.540 So I really like that part of it. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.120 Y'all don't feel like this is us going to fuck 0:12:52.260 --> 0:12:55.500 up the whole industry and make everybody do these back-in-time shows? 0:12:55.900 --> 0:12:57.090 This is us, yeah. 0:12:57.179 --> 0:12:57.670 Are you sure? 0:12:58.650 --> 0:13:01.530 Who was the first one to do that? 0:13:01.590 --> 0:13:01.810 No. 0:13:02.610 --> 0:13:05.850 Lost started telling the story like that. In my opinion. 0:13:05.890 --> 0:13:08.660 I think Lost made it like But this is us 0:13:08.740 --> 0:13:09.780 it did take off at the end. 0:13:09.820 --> 0:13:16.819 Yeah, sure. This is us changed the game. I'm sorry. 0:13:17.860 --> 0:13:20.210 It made the story a little bit more interesting, but 0:13:20.260 --> 0:13:22.150 it did make it feel a little cliche for me 0:13:22.270 --> 0:13:24.200 because I feel like so many series do it. 0:13:25.410 --> 0:13:25.970 That makes sense. 0:13:26.050 --> 0:13:30.329 And that's normally not how they tell stories. So it 0:13:30.670 --> 0:13:34.090 was different from the first two. The first two was 0:13:34.110 --> 0:13:37.610 a little bit more linear than than this one that 0:13:37.620 --> 0:13:38.010 we got. 0:13:39.650 --> 0:13:40.589 Yeah, that is true. 0:13:40.610 --> 0:13:43.390 All right, so episode two is called No Sorrow Like 0:13:43.410 --> 0:13:47.670 the Survivor. Here is where we see Joe with the captors. 0:13:48.150 --> 0:13:50.110 We're going back and forth. Actually, before we get there, 0:13:50.150 --> 0:13:52.329 I do want to talk about the conversation that Nicole 0:13:52.350 --> 0:13:56.010 Kidman's character had with the chief of staff guy when 0:13:56.030 --> 0:13:58.580 she was telling him, like, we got to get her 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.699 out or everybody's going to flip at some point. Did 0:14:02.740 --> 0:14:07.470 y'all worry that Joe might get turned against When she 0:14:07.510 --> 0:14:07.830 said that? 0:14:08.030 --> 0:14:11.050 Well, did y'all feel pretty safe about what she was saying? 0:14:11.110 --> 0:14:13.640 How much of her kidnapping had we seen? Because there 0:14:13.660 --> 0:14:16.140 was a point in the kidnapping where I was like, bitch, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:16.560 spill it. 0:14:16.580 --> 0:14:18.280 Just tell all the secrets. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:21.590 Right now, episode two, we just at the point where 0:14:21.610 --> 0:14:23.590 they didn't cut her toe off because the trackers in 0:14:23.630 --> 0:14:29.040 her toe. But Nicole Kidman said as soon as she 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.820 got kidnapped, she was like, look, this can only go 0:14:31.860 --> 0:14:34.080 so long because somebody, they going to break her. They 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.260 all flip. Everybody flip. I thought that was a really 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.780 good line. And it just added some intrigue to the series. Like, 0:14:41.820 --> 0:14:44.770 is they going to kill Joe? 0:14:45.050 --> 0:14:47.750 Did y'all think she didn't have it on her? Because 0:14:47.770 --> 0:14:50.030 she convinced me. I was like, she ain't got that 0:14:50.050 --> 0:14:50.830 shit on her, y'all. 0:14:50.890 --> 0:14:54.650 It's like the airports. It makes sense. They don't keep 0:14:54.710 --> 0:14:57.410 trackers on them. The airports, the security. 0:14:58.810 --> 0:14:59.870 She had me convinced. 0:15:01.130 --> 0:15:04.420 She was really convincing. She was really convincing. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.000 Then I was going to go up in her ass. 0:15:06.020 --> 0:15:06.580 Wait, wait, wait. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:07.460 Big toe, big toe, big toe. 0:15:07.540 --> 0:15:07.760 Oh, man. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.680 I like that because I was convinced just like y'all, 0:15:16.750 --> 0:15:19.790 but it goes further to show that dude was a professional. 0:15:20.350 --> 0:15:21.930 He knew like it ain't no way that you don't 0:15:21.970 --> 0:15:24.270 have a track. I know who you are. I know 0:15:24.290 --> 0:15:27.460 who I'm dealing with. It's impossible. So come on with it. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:28.780 But I did like that part. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.980 And then the team got there as soon as her 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:33.020 toe gets cut off. 0:15:33.500 --> 0:15:36.380 What y'all think about Kyle? I don't think this is 0:15:36.450 --> 0:15:37.310 a cut off toe moment. 0:15:38.580 --> 0:15:41.080 When she got kidnapped, they're going. 0:15:40.940 --> 0:15:43.660 Into action, the team hitting the road, but Kyle is 0:15:43.700 --> 0:15:44.660 taking this personally. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.330 Kyle is my boy from the, I guess he's CLA too. 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.060 I want y'all to think about him shooting the person 0:16:01.100 --> 0:16:02.800 in the hangar and getting the tail number. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.540 I love Ken Dahl. 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.800 I love Ken Dahl since season one. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.920 He's like my second favorite character, third favorite character behind 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:16.200 Joe and Cruz. It's the entitlement that Ken Dahl has 0:16:16.300 --> 0:16:17.700 that he just, he don't be playing around. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:18.300 He ain't got time. 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:19.820 He's like, don't you know I'm a white man? I 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:20.830 will kill all of y'all. 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.050 And he does, and I love it. 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.070 And they won't do shit to me. I'm the not 0:16:24.110 --> 0:16:27.130 fucking around person. I love his attitude. 0:16:27.670 --> 0:16:28.350 You like him, kid? 0:16:30.180 --> 0:16:31.740 Oh, Rod was going to say something. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:32.300 I'm a bad Rod. 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.120 I kind of forgot, but yeah, like, but I do 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.720 like that character. I think his arc is good. 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.720 Yeah, I didn't always like, I didn't like him at first. 0:16:42.740 --> 0:16:46.180 It was just like, oh, okay. Another white man with power, whatever. 0:16:47.500 --> 0:16:49.960 But then he started making them very, very likable. I 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.860 think what they've been doing with his character has been 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:53.500 really cool. 0:16:53.900 --> 0:16:55.350 And it starts to make you think, like, do they 0:16:55.380 --> 0:16:56.330 have something else going on? 0:16:56.350 --> 0:16:58.550 You know what I'm saying? Do they have some sort 0:16:58.590 --> 0:17:01.070 of encounter. I don't know if y'all felt that, but 0:17:01.090 --> 0:17:02.850 it's like, man, he's really going hard for her. Like, 0:17:02.890 --> 0:17:05.270 you know what I'm saying? It's like this unspoken thing 0:17:05.290 --> 0:17:07.909 that's going on. So yeah, I, I like what he 0:17:07.950 --> 0:17:09.050 contributes to the show. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.660 It is like he said, I think in the first season, 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:18.040 we were introduced to him is like, and, and, uh, 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:22.260 Joe kind of, uh, reinforced. He's like, I'm a good 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.240 looking white man. And she was like, yeah, that makes 0:17:24.330 --> 0:17:24.980 it fucking worse. 0:17:25.530 --> 0:17:25.830 You know? 0:17:26.130 --> 0:17:29.340 So not only am I white, uh, I'm a good-looking 0:17:29.380 --> 0:17:33.240 white man, and I'm really fucking good at my job, 0:17:34.180 --> 0:17:36.880 and I got all the power and privilege in the world, and. 0:17:37.020 --> 0:17:38.439 Nobody can fucking touch me. 0:17:38.859 --> 0:17:40.560 They can yell at me all they want, and they 0:17:40.580 --> 0:17:43.639 can do all this other stuff, and maybe they'll reprimand me, 0:17:43.660 --> 0:17:47.970 but they don't have anybody behind me that's even close 0:17:48.570 --> 0:17:50.590 to as good as I am. 0:17:50.910 --> 0:17:51.890 And he is good. 0:17:52.050 --> 0:17:54.170 He is really good at his job, and he will 0:17:54.210 --> 0:17:57.730 bend the rules to get things done, because he understands 0:17:57.770 --> 0:18:00.910 the game, He knows how this shit is done. 0:18:00.970 --> 0:18:03.540 He knows how dirty this game can get because he 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:04.129 plays dirty. 0:18:04.940 --> 0:18:10.919 So, and he plays dirty within, like, the rules, so-called 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.460 rules that we have in America. So imagine, he already 0:18:14.500 --> 0:18:16.790 know how to get down in Russia, Ukraine, Iran, and 0:18:16.830 --> 0:18:21.570 all those other places. So, shit, if we do what 0:18:21.609 --> 0:18:23.990 we do here, what they're going to do to her 0:18:24.010 --> 0:18:25.869 is going to be crazy. And then later on in 0:18:25.910 --> 0:18:27.330 the season, they even told her what they were going 0:18:27.350 --> 0:18:32.440 to do to her. I do like him a lot. 0:18:32.460 --> 0:18:34.800 I think he fits into the arrogance of the whole 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.140 fucking team. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:37.300 He does. 0:18:37.340 --> 0:18:39.080 He's the epitome of a white man playing a white 0:18:39.100 --> 0:18:39.740 man's game. 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:40.699 Facts. 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:45.140