1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Well, good Wednesday morning to you. Little overnight rain will 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: greet you if you haven't been outside this morning. Looks 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: to be decent temperature wise, if you haven't made to 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: the State Fair or one more colts training camp. Practice 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow shouldn't be too too hot. But let's 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: head to the payloft lockers hotline right now. The NBA 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: schedule gets fully announced coming up tomorrow. We did see 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: opening night inside a gamebridge field House announced yesterday it 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: will be Pacers and Thunder coming up a nationally televised game. 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: And to talk more about that. He is the head 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: coach of the Indiana Pacers. Our summer chat if you will. 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Instead of Tuesdays at eight, how about Wednesday at eight? 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: He is Rick Carlisle coach. Happy summer. Good morning to you. 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: How are you? 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: I'm all right, what's happening? 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: We're living life. Before we get into maybe some basketball combo. 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: What's what's been on the summer agenda for you? An 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: any great trips, anything you've looked forward to doing this 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: summer that you've gotten accomplished. 20 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, some some moving around to different places, but it's 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 3: but it's been good and you know it's a very 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: short summer obviously, because when you play the last you 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: played your last game of the season on the last 24 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: possible day of the finals. It's, uh, the summer, it 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: is pretty short. 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: I mean to ask you this. 27 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: And and I don't know if you met moving around, 28 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: have you met within the Indy area, But when you 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: have been in Indy obviously you were, you know, the 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: head coach a couple of decades ago. And now have 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: you always lived in the same area or do you 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: have a particular like a part of town that you 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: really enjoy. 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: Well, we've we've lived in three different parts of town. 35 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: When I was first there as an assistant, we lived 36 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: in a pocket of homes called Golden Hill, which was 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: down kind of adjacent to Woodstock Country Club. It's it's 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: kind of like thirty eighth and Martin Luther King area. 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: It's a kind of an eclectic group of homes that's older. 40 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. And interestingly, when when I came in 41 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven to work with Larry Bird, Dick Harder 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: also came with us, and we ended up buying a 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: house that Dick Harder and his wife Mary had lived 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: in when he was an assistant coach with Jack Ramsey 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 3: in the mid eighties, and so it was kind of 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: a coincidental thing. And the house also had been owned 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: at one time by former mayor Hudnutt, so the house 48 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: had some interesting history. The second time we were in 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: the forty fourth and Penn area, I guess it's Murdy 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: and Kessler and then you know, now we're up north 51 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: in the Carmel area. So yeah, I'm mixing it up. 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: But I have enjoyed all three all three spots. 53 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: Where can be pilot lessons As of late. 54 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: I've I've flown a little bit, but no, no lessons. 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not current right now. I've got a few. 56 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: I've got a few jet hours this summer. But that's 57 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: that simply means sitting in the left seat with with 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: a highly trained instructor on my in the r in 59 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 3: the right seat, and you know, I'm doing the controls. 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: I'm doing takeoffs and landings and stuff like that. And uh, 61 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: you know I could do that stuff, but I would 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: I certainly would not be doing it by myself. 63 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: I respect that. I respect that. 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: Pivoting more to the basketball side of things, Uh, we 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: see that Tyice is making some uh, progress throughout his 66 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: Achilles rehab and I believe he'll be out of the 67 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: boot fairly soon if he isn't already. 68 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: So have you spoken to him recently? 69 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: And where is he at in his recovery just mentally 70 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: and physically right now? 71 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have spoken to him recently. I've spoken to 72 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: him quite a few times this summer. He's in he's 73 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: in great spirits. He's just you know, he always has 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: a positive outlook on things. And you guys saw where 75 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: he and uh, his girlfriend Jay got engaged. That was 76 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: pretty spectacular event that you know, they they head over 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: social media, which is pretty cool. That happened up in 78 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: uh In Names, Iowa at their alma mater, and that 79 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: was a complete surprise, but uh, he pulled it off 80 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: their and in grand fashion. So congrats to them. But 81 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: this is I don't know, this is all gone by fast. 82 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 3: You know, it's been a month and a half already, 83 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: maybe even a little more than that. And this thing's 84 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: gonna fly by. This season coming up is gonna fly by. 85 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: You know, time is is flying by, and before you 86 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: know it, he'll be back, you know, and things are 87 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: still cutting edge down the medical world that these guys, 88 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: you know, now now don't just recover from this kind 89 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: of injury. They a full, full recovery, and so we're 90 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: seeing it with Isaiah Jackson and James Wiseman. Those guys 91 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: have been really busting their butts, you know, during their 92 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: entire rehab. And yesterday Isaiah did some five on five 93 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: work in the gym and he's doing real well and 94 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: Wiseman is you know, they're they're right about neck and 95 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 3: neck in terms of where their recovery is at. Wiseman 96 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: maybe slightly ahead, you know, because his surgery I think 97 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: was eight or ten days ahead of Isaiah's. But but 98 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: the hope is that those guys will be ready to 99 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: go come training camp. 100 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: So Summer Chat with Rick Carlisle normally Tuesdays at eight. 101 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: It is a Wednesday morning, and we appreciate the coach 102 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: hopping on with us here. Really enjoyed you with Caitlin 103 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: Cooper on her podcast last week, Coach, and in that 104 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned to her that, you know, at different times 105 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: this summer you've had people either randomly contact you or 106 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: just come up to you and say how really inspirational 107 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: the run was all the way to the finals into 108 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: Game seven, last year. Do you think, like anything in 109 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: particular is why that run has stood out to so 110 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: many people? Not, I guess just purely Pacer fans, Like, 111 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: was there an element? Have people shared with you a 112 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: particular reason why it's that run that has felt you know, 113 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: people the need or the urge I guess to go 114 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: up to you and and and say that. 115 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, when you run into you know, civilians, 116 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: non you know, non NBA people, they just you know, 117 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 3: they just talk about you know, these are word inspired. 118 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: You know, it was it was inspirational. It you know, 119 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: it's just uh, restored my faith in the NBA. You'res 120 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: some things like that, you know, like to see a 121 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: team play that hard and that together and all that, 122 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: and it's is this is all the credit goes to 123 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: the players for this. And so you know, talking to 124 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: NBA people, you know, running into people in Vegas, I 125 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: was on a zoom a couple of days ago with 126 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: our Executive committee of the Coaches Association, along with some 127 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: members of the Competition Committee, and and in fact I 128 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: ran into an assistant coach with one of the Eastern 129 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: Conference teams about five days ago down here where we 130 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: are in South Carolina, and and he said, you know, 131 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: you got you guys. You guys are changing the game, 132 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 3: changing the way game is played, the full court pressure, 133 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: the way people are looking at roster construction, all that 134 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. And so, uh and I've gotten that 135 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: comment or sentiment on several occasions. And so obviously our 136 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: fans should be very proud, our players should be very proud. 137 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: You know, myself and coaching staff is proud. But you know, 138 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: the work is, the work goes on and it never 139 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: gets easier. And to set a standard is one thing. 140 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: To maintain a standard and then and then work to 141 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: increase that standard is something totally different. 142 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: You obviously have to live in a world where pretty 143 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: soon you got to fully fully turn the page, and 144 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: maybe already have. But have you found yourself at any 145 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: point in this offseason going back and watching any part 146 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: of that run, or maybe thinking back on any part 147 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: of it that really stands out to you? 148 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: I mean, so many games. 149 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: I was talking with somebody yesterday about it, and it's like, 150 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't just that you got to Game seven, it 151 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: was really cinema. It was like Hollywood type eight points 152 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: to nine seconds. It seemingly happened a handful of times 153 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: throughout that run. Have you gone back and watch any 154 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: of it, anything stand out? Or is it fully turned 155 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: the page? 156 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 3: Yeah? I watched. I did not watch, well, I should 157 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: say I watched. I watched the beginning of Game seven. 158 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 3: I watched the first I guess it was four and 159 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: a half minutes where Tyree ship in his third three 160 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: and they call time out and I just shut it 161 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: off there. I didn't really want to see anymore. But 162 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: you know, you watch all the games obviously, you know, 163 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: as you go go through that, and I thought back 164 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 3: to it. You know, there have been some things I've 165 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 3: looked at this summer. You know, when we acquired Jay Hoff, 166 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: I went back and looked at some of the minutes 167 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: where he played against us when he's a Memphis because 168 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: we played them also in a preseason game last year. 169 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean it's that, but I'm I'm 170 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 3: usually pretty good at turning the page and moving forward. 171 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: You know. It's if things if things do ind in 172 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: a difficult way, which just it's it's just is uh, 173 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: it's it's just to me. It's it's this great motivation 174 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: to jump into the next thing. And so the next 175 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: thing is is a year where you know, there's going 176 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: to be amazing opportunity for our team, our guys. You know, 177 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: expectations around the world, around the NBA world are going 178 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: to be significantly lower. I think we've seen that with 179 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: some of the Vegas predictions and wins and all that 180 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. But this is that's why we play 181 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: the games, you know, so we're looking forward to it. 182 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: Rick Carlisle, head coach of the Pacers, joined us on 183 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: the Pale Stickers Hotline. Rick, you appeared on Kellen Coover's 184 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: podcast what you already talked about? But in that same podcast, 185 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: you mentioned that the starting two guard position is Benedict 186 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: Matherin's to lose, and you mentioned that he's a natural scorer, 187 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 4: and within that answer you also mentioned that he's a 188 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: that he can score and get budgets in a rat game. 189 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 4: And who were asking, I think last week, what is 190 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: a rat game? Number one and then number two? Uh 191 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: do you see this? 192 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: How do you use this opportunity for banding mathering? 193 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, if you guys are not subscribed 194 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: to basketball, she wrote on Patreon, you're making a big mistake. 195 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: In fact for this, I might even I might even 196 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: pay for both of your subscriptions. I have such great 197 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: belief that this would be as knowledgeable as you guys are. 198 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: This would this would increase your knowledge of the NBA 199 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: and particularly the Pacers in an exponential fashion. I mean, 200 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: what Caitlin is doing with her site is really is 201 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 3: really amazing, the detail, you know, the writing. I think 202 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: I mentioned on the podcast that you know, she's been 203 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 3: approached by multiple NBA teams that have tried to hire her, 204 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: but she is she stayed true to her mission, which 205 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 3: is to study the pacers at the most meticulous level. 206 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 3: She loves writing and a great writer. And you know, 207 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: every time we play a game, there's a there's a 208 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: story that comes out. If you subscribe to her site, 209 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: it comes out, it comes directly to your email, and 210 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 3: then usually there's a podcast that follows, you know. So 211 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: I'm I'm really I'm really in awe of what she's 212 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: doing there, and so I would encourage you guys to subscribe, 213 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: or anyone to subscribe to that matter. 214 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: Anyway. 215 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the the question about Ben, Yeah, you know, Ben, 216 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: it's important to Ben that to be a starter. I 217 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: know that, you know, he's told me that you guys 218 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: can see that, you know, with the way that he plays. 219 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's you know why why wait, you know 220 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: he's the starter on day one. You know. The caveat 221 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: to that is that he's got to continue to move 222 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: his game in the direction of being a highly functioning 223 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 3: part of the Indian Ana Pacers. And that's gonna that's 224 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: gonna mean that he's got to continue to play faster 225 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: and faster. He's got to run faster, run harder. He's 226 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: gotta he's got to play off with quick decisions. He's 227 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: going to be guarding a lot of great players, you know, 228 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: And you think about it with Tyree's being out this 229 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: year and Nemhar the starting point. So you know, Andrew 230 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: Nemar guarded the best perimeter player almost always. He's either 231 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: here Ani Smith. But you know, with with Tyres out, 232 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: you know Andrew, it's gonna put him on different matchups 233 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: sort of organically. And now Ben is going to be 234 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: guarding guys that are better players. So this would be 235 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: a great challenge. You know, Ben told us when when 236 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: he was drafted that he wanted to be coach hard, 237 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: he wanted to be great, you know, and and and everything, 238 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 3: and and I've always took him at his word. You know, 239 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: we have high standards for him. Uh, but he's gotta 240 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: he's gotta, he's gotta, he's gotta keep he's got to 241 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 3: keep pushing it. He's got to keep pushing it. You know, 242 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: his gifts are pretty clear. I mean, he's a great 243 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: transition player. He shoots the ball long range with ease. 244 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: I mean he shoots the ball from thirty five feet, 245 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: you know, just just he can just pop up and 246 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: just you know, flip in a jump shot, and so 247 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: you know, those those are the big strengths to his 248 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: offensive game. And so you know the situations where he 249 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: at times gets into trouble, driving into crowd, stuff like that, 250 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: you know that stuff's got to go away, and we're 251 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: gonna work with him hard on that. He's having a 252 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: great summer. He's busting his body, he's gonna he's actually 253 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: up in I think he's in Toronto right now spending 254 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: time with Team Canada. I don't think he's participating in 255 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: the World Championships, but he's there. And I don't know 256 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: that he's participating in the World Couts. Buddy is there 257 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 3: watching if he's not participating, and and he's uh, I believe, 258 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: you know, I would certainly have to believe that he's 259 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: a big part of Team Can in the future. So anyway, 260 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: all good stuff on Ben Mathern. I know that Kevin 261 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: is the president of the Ben Mathern Fan Club indeed, 262 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: and so uh so it's so there, so there we go. 263 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: And so as president of the fan club, you should 264 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: you should be pushing all the all of your all 265 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: of your members to uh to hit him on social 266 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: media about the things that he needs to do to 267 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: continue to work to be great. 268 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: Move that to the top of the monthly meeting coming 269 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: up here next week. 270 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: Well, I will say this, ritt, I subscribe to basketball. 271 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 4: She wrote, actually have a shirt as well, Kaitlin Cooper 272 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 4: so been a long time subscriber for probably over a 273 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 4: year and a half or two years at this point. 274 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: And one quick follow up, what is a rat game? 275 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: Can? 276 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 4: We were debating this last week and we have no 277 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: idea how you view that or what that means. 278 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean no disrespect to rats, but yeah, it's 279 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: a it's a term. It's a term to me that 280 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: that means. Let's let's say you're playing a team that's 281 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: a very hard playing, physical team, that does a lot 282 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: of switching and does a lot of things to junk 283 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: up the game, and it's just gonna be it's gonna 284 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: be a game that looks like it's a little detached 285 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: and a little clunky on a lot of on a 286 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: lot of levels. I mean, he he's a guy that 287 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: is in the in the flow or non flow of 288 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: a game like that. He's gonna find ways to get 289 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: the ball in the basket and get to the free 290 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: throw line. And it's a it's really it's a great 291 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: compliment to him. And so you know, look, we saw 292 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: it a little bit in game seven of the of 293 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: the finals. I mean it was physical, there was a 294 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: lot of switching, and he ended up being our leading 295 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: scorer in the finals. But you know, we don't we 296 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: don't want to see a bunch of games where he's 297 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: the leading scorer and we lose. You know, we we 298 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: we want him to keep developing the acumen to be 299 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: a great scorer, but to be but to be a 300 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: part of the team's success and to you know, meld 301 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 3: those those individual abilities with the the style that our 302 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: that our team has developed, which so many people have 303 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 3: have become smitten. 304 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: With, uh with the important caveat of no disrespect to 305 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: rats Rick Carlisle with us here on the Payless Slickers 306 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: hotline just a few more minutes. We appreciate the Pacers 307 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: head coach joined us here for a summer combo. This 308 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: is our first chat since really, I guess right after 309 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and obviously the first big bit of news 310 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: in the offseason was Miles Turner joining the Bucks. Where 311 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: you as stunned, as it sounded like Kevin Pritchard was 312 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: when he found out that news. 313 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was surprised. I was surprised, But 314 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: it's pretty clear what happened. You know, Milwaukee the way 315 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: to come up with enough cap space in a very 316 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 3: short period of time. It's my guess that that they 317 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 3: did all this, you know, they did it by waving 318 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: Lillard and stretching him and all that kind of stuff 319 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: created whatever it was, twenty some million extra in space. 320 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 3: And and I think what I think what happened was, 321 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: you know, they they talked to Miles of agent or 322 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: Miles and his agent, and said, look, we have this offer. 323 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 3: This is a number, you know, presumably a number that 324 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: you guys are trying to get to. We need to 325 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: know that if we offer this, you guys are gonna 326 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 3: take it and you can't shop it, you know, And 327 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 3: that's that's a that's a frequent you know, a tactic 328 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 3: of of negotiation. And so pretty clearly they they took 329 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: they took the offer. It's their right to do it. 330 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,479 Speaker 3: We'll certainly miss Miles. You I know that there were 331 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: a lot of there was a lot of talk about, 332 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: you know, some of the some of the things that 333 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 3: he said as he left. But I just I just feel, look, 334 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 3: we're gonna give Miles the benefit of the doubt on 335 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: all that stuff. The guy is the guy was a 336 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 3: was a pacer through and through for ten years. He 337 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: lived and breathed that he disregarded trade rumors. You know, 338 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 3: when they when they happened, he was all about he 339 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: was all about Indiana all the time. Sometimes things in 340 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 3: the business aspect of basketball become super dynamic and nuclear, 341 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: and they happened on a you know, on they turn 342 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: on a dime. But you know, everything that Kevin Pritchard 343 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 3: said is absolutely true. This this this franchise was was 344 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 3: ready to go as far into the taxes as we 345 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 3: needed to keep him. But you know, things can change quickly. 346 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 3: They did. He's moved on. It's a division rival, so 347 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 3: there's always gonna be plenty to talk about there. But 348 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 3: Kevin and Chad were able to acquire Jay Huff, who's 349 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: certainly not the experienced level Miles Turner is not the 350 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: exact same kind of player, but he can make threes, 351 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: and he can protect and protect the rim, and he 352 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: can do some other things that are strengths of his 353 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 3: and so we feel like he's a piece that can 354 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: that can work for us. We don't know exactly who's 355 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: gonna start at five, but I've had seasons where I've 356 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: had three centers and pretty much consistently played three centers 357 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: every game. It was I think it was two thousand 358 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: and thirteen fourteen with the Dallas Mavericks. Sam Dallenbar was 359 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: our starter. Dwan Blair and Brandon Wright played back up, 360 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: and there were way more game many There were way 361 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 3: more games than there weren't where all three of those 362 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: guys played. And so you know, maybe the center position 363 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: is more of a Swiss army knife type thing. We'll 364 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: have to see and uh, but we have we have Huff, 365 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: we have Isaiah Jackson, we have Wiseman Tony Bradley's going 366 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: to be in camp, So there's four guys that are 367 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 3: going to be slugging it out for the you know, 368 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: presumably three center spots. So as we get into it, 369 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: we'll see what's what. But you know, nothing but love 370 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 3: from from my perspective. From on Miles Turner. I had 371 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 3: a really nice, nice conversation with him after, you know, 372 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 3: after he made the decision to leave, and uh, what 373 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 3: a lovable guy. 374 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: So we'll miss him last one, coach, and again, thank 375 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: you for the time. Unfortunately we didn't get to see 376 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: him late in that playoff run due to injury, but 377 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: certainly minutes now with that second unit with Benedict going 378 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: to the starting lineup, are there for a guy like 379 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: Jarris Walker. How is he doing health wise? And where 380 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: do you want to see growth for him entering I 381 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: believe his third season. 382 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, his health is is is good right now. You 383 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: know that that was a serious injury that he suffered 384 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: in Game six, and I think it's important to note 385 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: that Jar's had a very productive year. He played I 386 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: think over fifteen and a half minutes a game. You know, 387 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 3: he played very effectively during certain stretches of the playoffs. 388 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 3: He was a big factor in Game four at Milwaukee, 389 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 3: where you know, we were able to get ourselves in 390 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: a position to steal a road game that was a 391 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 3: that was a big deal. And you know, he played 392 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: well throughout the year. And so the big things for 393 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 3: him are going to be conditioning, motor, toughness, rebounding, defense, 394 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: and in a real high degree of understanding of the 395 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: importance of possession of the ball. And that's not just him, 396 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: that's everybody. I think with what we're going into this year, 397 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: you know, we're going to be without a guy in 398 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 3: Tyrese who's historically great with his ability to do amazing 399 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 3: things on the basketball floor, creating pace, scoring, getting the 400 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: ball of the rim, hitting floaters, throwing it ahead to teammates, 401 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: getting assists, and with the usage rate that he has, 402 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 3: his ability to have security with the ball and not 403 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: turn the ball over is like you know, has been 404 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: has been historic, and so our team is going to 405 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: have to really develop an even greater understanding and appreciation 406 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: of the importance of possession. But in a year like this, 407 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: so we have coming up, Jarrius is a very important 408 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: guy because he can play multiple positions really including point guard. 409 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he handles the ball that well, 410 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: but I want I want to see him be able 411 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: to get a rebound at one end and put on 412 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: the burners and go coast to coast with speed and 413 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: attack the rim at the other. I think he has 414 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 3: the ability to do that. So I know he's working 415 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: on those those that those things along with a lot 416 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: of other things. But it took him a good two 417 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 3: months before he was back on the court going on 418 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 3: and so, uh, it's going to be an active end 419 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: of the summer for him. But you know, he's people 420 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 3: should be excited. People should be excited about Johnny Furfey 421 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: after watching him in the Summer League. I think furfy 422 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: is another guy that you know, he's he's a lot 423 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: like Ben Sheppard. He's a he's a he's a seamless 424 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 3: fit into our our system. He runs, he rebounds, he 425 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 3: passes it, he moves it. He's a great cutter. He 426 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 3: doesn't need the ball to be effective, you know. And he's, uh, 427 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: he's a lunch pale guy. 428 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 4: Man. 429 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: He's he's going to work so and some of the 430 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: stuff that that he did in the Summer League, you know, 431 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: some of the dunks, you guys saw those pretty cool, 432 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: pretty pretty, pretty awesome stuff, and so he's become a 433 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 3: fan favorite. And then we've got the two rookies. You know, 434 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: we've got Peter and and Jones. We like those guys 435 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: a lot. Both of them improved as the summer league 436 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 3: went on, So a lot of opportunity, you know, a 437 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: lot of excitement from my perspective. We'll see what the 438 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: schedule shows tomorrow. The good news is on opening night 439 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: we at least we get Oklahoma City and a back 440 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: to back. You know, they're getting they're getting their rings 441 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 3: the night before, and so we'll have to try to 442 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: figure out a way to take advantage of. 443 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: That last last one. 444 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: Then again, we appreciate the time. What's left about a 445 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: month ish to go in the off seasons or anything, 446 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: and you're looking forward to away from the floor before 447 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: training camp starts up. I assume late September. 448 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: Well, Abby Carlisle arrives tonight down here where we are, 449 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: and she spent the summer taking some summer classes in 450 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: New York City at NYU, and so she'll be down 451 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: here for a week or so, and then we'll drive 452 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: her down to I should say, up to Charlottesville and 453 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 3: we'll spend some time there and then eventually meander back 454 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: to Indianapolis. We're really looking forward to to getting back 455 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: and getting going. But you know, it's it's been it's 456 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 3: been quite a year. If you go back a full 457 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 3: year to you know where we are now. So you know, 458 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: we're mid August. You think about mid August twenty twenty four, 459 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: and you know the way everybody looked at last season, 460 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: you know, coming off the conference finals, there was anticipation, 461 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: and then you know, we got into the season and 462 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 3: then it was we were ten and fifteen and we 463 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: were banged up, and you know, it didn't seemed to 464 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 3: be a whole lot of good stuff happening. And then 465 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: you know, we started to get healthy, and you know, 466 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 3: Nemar came back, and you know, we we went from there. 467 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: We won three games on the on the road to 468 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 3: uh to get to five hundred at Christmas, pretty much 469 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: similar thing we did in the previous year, and then 470 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 3: a lot of great things happened. So this year is 471 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 3: is another mystery at this point, but we're looking forward 472 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 3: to putting the pieces together. 473 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: Well, we got this text during the convos. Please tell 474 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: Rick this run inspired me and my group of friends 475 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: to get back in the gym and start hooping again, 476 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: so the inspiration is impacted the local men's leagues here 477 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: in the great state of Indiana. Coach enjoyed the time 478 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: with abby safe travels back up here a little bit 479 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: later in September and greatly appreciate the time. Thank you. 480 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 3: Cheers guys make caure