1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Pam Bondy is out as Attorney General. 3 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: And if you ask me why, I will tell you 4 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. 5 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: I have no idea what the last straw was for 6 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: President Trump to make this decision. I can tell you 7 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: that I, as an observer, have not been happy with 8 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: the Attorney General the way she's handled Epstein, the binders 9 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: and the influencers and the garbage. And I think the 10 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: guys over at South Park got it right with all 11 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: the brown nosing. Sorry, I think you could be supportive 12 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: of the president and respectable of the president and not 13 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: be seen as ridiculous as Pam Bondy was. 14 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: And I'm disappointed. I had real eye homees for Pambondy. 15 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: She was the Attorney general in Florida for eight years, 16 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: competent and capable. 17 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 3: She's far better choice, I said, than Matt Gates. 18 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: Oh. 19 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: I still hold by that. 20 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: And there are people saying America demands that Matt Gates 21 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: be the new Attorney General like he should have been. 22 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: Nobody nobody wants Matt Gates. One American News doesn't want 23 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: Matt Gates. Nobody wants Matt Gates. Oh, I know you're 24 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: gonna be offended for Matt Gates, for him, Okay, all right, 25 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: not you. You know those people feel free tell him, 26 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: I said, so he doesn't care, he doesn't know who 27 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: I am. Fine, you could tell him, though, I would 28 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: tell him, no one wants him to be a g 29 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: It was a bad idea to begin with. 30 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: I did think Pam Bondy would be far better than 31 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: what she was. 32 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: What is it about her that I say to you, 33 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: is is a shame? 34 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: Well? The lack of force. 35 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: Certainly there's a conversation about prosecutions. 36 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: Now. I don't think that Trump. 37 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: Is actually a revenge guy, and I do point to 38 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: the Hillary Clinton thing as proof of that. Lock her 39 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: up and lock her up, remember the chance? And how 40 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: dare they? And then he gets it off. He's like, eh, Hillary, 41 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: we got other things to do. 42 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: Hillary. Why is anybody? 43 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of maga folks said, what 44 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: the bloody heck? So maybe it was indeed that there 45 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: were some people who and I would agree, and you 46 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: might agree, and you might agree on more than I. 47 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: Where are the prosecutions? And then you take a look 48 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: at some of the prosecutions, and they didn't really go 49 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: so great. You're like, what the bloody heck nonsense for COCTA? 50 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: Crazy? Is this? 51 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: Can this Justice Department do anything at all? Maybe that 52 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: weight on the President's mind. I could see. I could 53 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: see that. I think you could too. Maybe it was Epstein. 54 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 2: Now I've already had people pushing back on me on this. 55 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: All the Epstein files are released. Tony Epstein doesn't matter 56 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: for clarity, because I don't like it when we fight. 57 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: Trump handled Epstein wrong from the beginning. He misread the 58 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: entire base. This doesn't matter. Why are we paying attention 59 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: to it. 60 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: It's a hoax, I tell you, a hoax. 61 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: I say, oh, holy hell, what a mistake. And he 62 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: didn't even bother correcting it, didn't even try to correct it, 63 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: thought that he could muscle it through. And this is 64 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: where it's so rare to see the president make this 65 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: kind of mistake and have a total mystery of his 66 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: base because the base. 67 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: Said no, no, it matters quite a bit. 68 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: There were some true sycophants who will do anything. They're 69 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: in that Pam BONDI, Hey you got something on your 70 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: nose kind of world. They're like, yeah, Trump said this 71 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Why you're still paying attention to it? Because 72 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: children were sex trafficked and I want to know who 73 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: goes to jail. 74 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: Can I help you? 75 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: And if you don't want to know who goes to jail, 76 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 2: well then I don't think I want you in my house. 77 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: You're not good enough to know me. 78 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: You're sure as I'm not good enough to listen. Go 79 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: somewhere else. You don't think we should go after sex traffickers, 80 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: people who might have been on the island and abusing 81 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: children with Jeffrey Epstein. 82 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: I want them in jail. 83 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: Don't care about their name, don't care about their daddy, 84 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: don't care about their money, don't care about the political 85 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: affiliation or d after the name. 86 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: Who gives a crap jail? That's the way the. 87 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: Rational person feels when Trump said, don't paying attention and 88 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: these people on the right, why are we paying attention 89 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: to us? It's just a leftist hoax. You gave it 90 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: to them. You gave it to them time and again. 91 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: You gave it to them, You gave them this entire 92 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: talking point. And then here comes Pam Bondy. Well, we're 93 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: gonna be releasing files on Epstein and we're really going 94 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: to clean this up, and people said great, And then 95 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: you grabbed some influencers, influencers, dear God, and you had 96 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: them parading in front of the White House with binders. 97 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: But the heck is that binders? 98 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: You know who had binders, Mitt Romney and gring John Pierre. 99 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: You give them people binders. What the bloody heck are 100 00:05:54,240 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: you doing? And you know within the binders I believe, 101 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: I believe in the French it sounds like nothing ungats 102 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: that's the Italian. There was nothing in there that we 103 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: didn't already know. What the hell is this? You make 104 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: this big show and they're waiving their binders, look at us, 105 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: We're somebody, okay, but you got played because there was 106 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: nothing there and it was embarrassing. Now I am a 107 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: believer that Trump can handle mistakes. I'm a believer that 108 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: Trump is okay with mistakes being made, people learning from 109 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: it and getting better at it. I have never viewed 110 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: him as a if you screw up, you're out. I 111 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: much more view that if you are Jennifer Lopez's personal 112 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: assistant than if you work for Donald Trump. 113 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: Carelessness. Oh, I think the President's. 114 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: Got a real issue with that. Embarrassment. Preventable embarrassment. Huh. 115 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: I think that moves him more than anything, because preventable 116 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: embarrassment happening is assigned to him of weakness, and that 117 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: is not where he lives. I'm not saying anything rude. 118 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: That is who he is. Can we all act like 119 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: we know exactly what we're talking about, we know who 120 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: we're talking about, we know what we're talking about. People 121 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: move things in different ways. Joe Biden he didn't care 122 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: if he was embarrassed. Joe Biden also didn't know where 123 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: he was, so of course he. 124 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: Didn't care if he was embarrassed. 125 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: Because he didn't know that walking around with a bunny 126 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: rabbit leading him towards the stage was embarrassing to begin with. 127 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: He didn't know that his wife running cabinet meetings was 128 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: embarrassing to begin with. He still thought that the sniffing 129 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: was endearing preventable embarrassment, and. 130 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: So maybe that was it. Maybe that was the thing 131 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: that made him say, Okay, we're done here. Maybe it 132 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: was something else we don't know about. 133 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: It. Got noted that one of the weird things about 134 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: Bondie being fired on Wednesday was that she had spent 135 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: Wednesday with him when Trump went to the Supreme Court 136 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: to hear the case on birthright citizenship, where the more 137 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: you think about that case, you really do have to 138 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: be prepared for it not to go Trump's way, and 139 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: maybe it will be the seven to two decision, because 140 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: the argument's gonna be it says what it says. It 141 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: says all persons. It says all persons born in the 142 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: United States, and somehow they're gonna disregard and subject to 143 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: the jurisdiction thereof this is the Fourteenth Amendment. 144 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: But it says all persons born in the United States. 145 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: So they're gonna say, that's not what are we talking 146 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: about here, And so they're gonna make an argument about originalism. 147 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say 148 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: what it doesn't say, And they're going to say if 149 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: the Second Amendment says a well regulated militia, therefore the 150 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: right of the people to keeping bare arms shall not 151 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: be in fringe, means that you have the right to 152 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 2: keep in bear arms and you don't have to be 153 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: a part of a militia. 154 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: They're gonna make the same argument here. 155 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: Now, I think the right to keep in bear arms 156 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: to the extent of discussing a well regulated militia. It's 157 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: a lot easier to understand than all persons born in 158 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, because 159 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: in order to be subject to the jurisdiction, there has 160 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 2: to be. 161 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: Something legal at play. So I won't be surprised, and a. 162 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: Lot of people I'm happy to see a bunch of 163 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: conservatives engaged in this. Listen, we might lose this, come 164 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: back and fight it again. The fight is worthy because 165 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 2: I do think that it is written wrong. And when 166 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: you understand a John Roberts Court, by the way, you 167 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: go back to Obamacare, the facocta nonsense of Obama Care. Well, 168 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: it's not a tax funny of bomb administration, where the 169 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: Court we view this as being constitutional. If it's a tax, 170 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: oh you do, oh well, then it's a tax. There 171 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: was always a tax. Of course, it's a tax. 172 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: It's just a tax. And Congress can engage in taxation. 173 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: And the John Roberts Court said, if Congress wants to 174 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: change as they. 175 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 3: Can, don't leave that to us. That's not our job. 176 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: If Congress wants to change laws, or if the states 177 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: want to amend the Constitution to change the definition of 178 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: all persons born in the United States and subjects of 179 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: the jurisdiction. 180 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: Theref and give it more clarification. They're welcome to I won't. 181 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 2: Be surprised if that is part of the majority opinion, 182 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: and I won't be surprised if it's John Roberts who 183 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: writes that majority opinion. I still think that. As the 184 00:10:51,200 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: conversation went down the argument of Horace Gray, the then Justice, 185 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: and the conversation about the case of Wang Kim Ark 186 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: eighteen ninety eight, a Chinese American who was born in 187 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: the US. His parents were not American. They had gone 188 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: back to China. He went back to visit them. That 189 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: he came back and they said, you're not a citizen 190 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: of the United States. He said, of course I am. 191 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: I was born here. That was a large part of 192 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: where the case from the acl you rested was on 193 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: the idea that this case proves that if you're born here, 194 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: you're here. But in that judgment, in that majority opinion, 195 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: this Justice Horace Gray is talking about the concept of 196 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: domicile where do you actually live? 197 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: Do you actually live here? Gets mentioned. 198 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: I believe they said like twenty times, and so I 199 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: still think that that argument holds that it's not to 200 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 2: be born here, it is to actually live here. 201 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: It's subject to the jurisdiction thereof. 202 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: I do think that, you know, some people said it's 203 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: going to go seven to it'd only be Alito and Thomas. 204 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: I did wonder the after the ACLU's case, if it 205 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 2: was going to be a five. 206 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: To four, if maybe some of these. 207 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: Other conservative justices would be turned around. Maybe not Roberts, 208 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: but the rest. Right now, I don't see it. I'll 209 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: be surprised. I can't wait to read it. But I 210 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: think seven two sixty three might actually be accurate. For 211 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: that might be accurate. So there's Pam Bondy with President 212 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: Trump watching this happen. 213 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: She spent the day with him. I didn't know that, 214 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: and then he ends the day with oh, by the way, 215 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: Pam really enjoyed the time together. You fight it. 216 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: There are some arguing that she begged for her job back. 217 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: The Daily Mail, which is known to lie, is saying 218 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: that it's because she leaked information to Congressman Eric Swalwell 219 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: about possible issues with him and this spy, etc. 220 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: I don't buy it. 221 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: I mean, the White House is pushing back hard on 222 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: that One's like, this never happened, This is ridiculous. I 223 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: have an issue with that one too. But there is 224 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: an opportunity in all things, and you have heard me 225 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: discuss that when you understand where the the Democratic Party 226 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: is at, when you understand how they move and how 227 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 2: they maneuver. 228 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: They've got three pillars to their platform. 229 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: Right, they've got calling Trump an authoritarian even though he 230 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: listens to every court ruling and follows. They've got Ice. Right, Look, 231 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: Trump killed people. They want to get rid of Ice. 232 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: So therefore illegal immigrants can stay in the country. And 233 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: then they want illegal imgrants voting, and that way they 234 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: get more vote. And then Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein is a 235 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: huge part of this. Oh, they're hiding the Epstein files. 236 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: They're hiding this. Trump's a pedophile. He's not hiding that, 237 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 2: hiding the other hiding their friends. It's hiding Democrat friends 238 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: of a lot of what's going on here. You move 239 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: Bondie out, you bring in someone new, don't know who 240 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: that person's going to be, and if there are any 241 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: files left, you say, here's everything. And then, in a 242 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: very very concentrated effort, when the left starts saying that 243 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: there still aren't files released, you start going after them. 244 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: Everything's been released. You're a liar, you're a fraud. 245 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: You can't handle the fact that President Trump did anything wrong, 246 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong. 247 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: You are just so hateful, you. 248 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: Are so disgusting, and you are bordering on defamation. So 249 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: keep it up, tough guy, and get in people's faces 250 00:14:52,160 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: and absolutely absolutely put fingers to chests. Get that that's tough. Well, 251 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: look at this allegation. Allegations are not proof, and those 252 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: engaged in making the allegation, those people have been shown 253 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: to be frauds. If Trump was abusing children, throw the 254 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: son of a bitch in jail. But if someone's lying 255 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: about them doing it, let's shut that person down because 256 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: those are low lifes. 257 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: Those are scumbags. Let's say so. 258 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: Democrats so around pedophile like it's something you throw around. 259 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: This is serious stuff, which is why we should know 260 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: who was involved in abusing children and we should prosecute them. 261 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: You want to make it up for political purposes, there's 262 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: a place in hell for those people. Let's not be 263 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: kind about it. If you want to make up stories 264 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: about people you don't like politically involved in abusing children 265 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,479 Speaker 2: for your political advantage. 266 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 3: Screw you. You're the worst of the worst. They are 267 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: the lowest of the low. They are the scumbags of scumbags. 268 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: And let's not pretend that they are up to our 269 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: level or they're in any way decent. To hell with them. 270 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: Let's say so, and let's get rough about it. Release 271 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: all the files, and then say we're done. If there 272 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: are any files left to release. It's an opportunity for Trump. 273 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: I think you should take it. 274 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: And maybe that was the reason. Maybe it's something else. 275 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, but. 276 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: She's out and I won't lose any sleep. This is 277 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. President Trump now wants to move to 278 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: pay Homeland Security directly. Tony Katz Tony Katz today, guys, 279 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: good to be with you. He said he would sign 280 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: an order executive order to pay all Department of Homeland 281 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: Security employees who have gone without paychecks. This is forty 282 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: eight days on this partial shutdown and growing, and we 283 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: should be clearcrats have. 284 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: Gained nothing from. 285 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: This zero It's really incredible. I think that he's going 286 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: to put it as a concept of an emergency, and 287 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: if he does that, he should be able to make 288 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: make the claim and should be able to move forward. 289 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 3: With with doing so. I don't know how this works. 290 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: What I do know is that we can state quite 291 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 2: clearly that for everything that Democrats have put towards this effort, 292 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: I mean, and they're they're very clear, they're outrageously honest 293 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: about the fact. 294 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, we're not going to fund these things. 295 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: You want us to fund the Department of Homeland Security, 296 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: you want us to fund UH, ice and border. 297 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: But what's wrong with you? 298 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: Will you vote for this package if it is in 299 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 4: fact what the Senate pushed over, which is funding for 300 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 4: DHS minus ICE and border protections. 301 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 5: There it's going to be two tracks, so that I 302 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 5: would vote for. But the first second track that funds 303 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 5: ICE and border for three years, of course I'm going 304 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: to vote against that. 305 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 3: Okay, So this is the way it is. 306 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: Now. 307 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: You're not going to vote for those things. 308 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: You're going to simply say to us, now, I'm not 309 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: going to vote for border patrol, I'm not going to 310 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 2: vote for ice, even though these things already have funding, 311 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: and so you'll keep it all shut down because it's 312 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 2: an all or nothing proposition, and they've lost this fight 313 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: with America. I keep now, maybe the longer the fight 314 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: goes on, they can gain an upper hand. 315 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: I guess that's possible. 316 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: But I would have thought they would have already made 317 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: Republicans break, and they haven't. And even though Johnson seems 318 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: like he wanted to break a little bit, it's not happening. 319 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: They've been trying to get the upper hand on this 320 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: and they don't. 321 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: Have it, which leads me to the place to the 322 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: belief that Americans blame them for it. But as long 323 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: as TSA is fine and you can get through the 324 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: airport's okay, and there aren't long lines, where's the pressure 325 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: point on those other employees. Those other employees are not 326 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: in the daily sight line, so you know, doesn't matter. 327 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 2: I think it does, I'm saying to them, questionable. Meanwhile, 328 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: a fighter jet was shocked down in Iran. I'll have 329 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: the latest on that. 330 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: This is Tony Katch Today. 331 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Dianaceato. We are coming on the air with 332 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 4: breaking news. Are US official confirms to ABC News that 333 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 4: it appears a US fighter jet has been shot down 334 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 4: by Iran. Now, with search and rescue operations underway, let's 335 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 4: get to our chief Global Affairs anchor Martha Rattits Martha, 336 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: what do we know so far? 337 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 6: And what we do know is this was a two 338 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 6: seater aircraft. The pilot would be in front, the weapons 339 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 6: systems officer would be in back, and this would be 340 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 6: a very dramatic and very dangerous rescue. Iran's Revolutionary Guard 341 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 6: saying that Iranian forces had shot down the US fighter overnight, 342 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 6: with the Iranian state media releasing images of the wreckage 343 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 6: of a jet and of an intact ejection seat. The 344 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 6: IRGC said it was an F thirty five, but from 345 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 6: the images that we do believe are credible but have 346 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 6: not independently verified, it looks like an Air Force F fifteen. Now, 347 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 6: US pilots are trained in what is called SEER if 348 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 6: they are shot down or have to eject over enemy territory. 349 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 6: SEER stands for survive, evade, resist and escape. The pilots 350 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 6: the navigator, of course, know that Iranians would be looking 351 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 6: for them. In fact, Iran put out a message to 352 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 6: shoot the pilots if they were found, and a reward 353 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 6: was being offered. Later they said if they are found alive. 354 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 6: This comes after President Trump claimed in his speech on 355 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 6: Wednesday night that the Iranians have no anti aircraft equipment. 356 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 6: Their radar is one hundred percent annihilated. The President saying, 357 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 6: we are unstoppable as a military force. But again, this 358 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 6: is a very very dangerous mission. 359 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: Undoubtedly true, It's a dangerous mission. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, 360 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: it's often weird to see the political left, except it's 361 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: understood that this happens. But it is weird to see 362 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: them kind of cheering the bad thing. It's horrifying. Part 363 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: of the problem of referring to Iran as an excursion. 364 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: This is the stuff that we warned about. Do not ever, ever, 365 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 2: ever be seen as minimising what it is these troops 366 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: have to do, like it's no big deal. It's all 367 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: a big deal. We said it then and I say 368 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: it now. As for what shot down this chet, don't 369 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: have an answer, and I don't believe anybody does. People 370 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: are going to speculate. They're gonna speculate all day, all night, 371 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: all the time, the whole thing, what it was, we 372 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: don't have an answer for. We are these pilots don't 373 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: have an answer for that either. But you understand as 374 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: well as I understand that if they are indeed captured. 375 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: The IRGC is going to parade them around like it's 376 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: their job, and then people are gonna look at Trump 377 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: and say, look what you didn't know. The flaw of 378 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: the argument of no More Forever Wars and all the 379 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: rest is that there is this belief that somehow there's 380 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: never a fight worth fighting, and there cannot be any 381 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: fight worth fighting if somehow we will sustain losses. 382 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: That is not how the world works. It's not how 383 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: the world works at all. 384 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: Am My shocks to learn that the Iranians still have 385 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: missile launchers and something like this could happen. 386 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: I'm not. 387 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: I never questioned whether or not the Iranians could be 388 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: a threat. That's why taking out the regime is so important, 389 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 2: because they're a threat. How all of a sudden did 390 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: the threat disappear? We have done tremendous damage to them, 391 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: tremendous tremendous damage. They're not done. They're not done until 392 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: they're done. These are mobile missile launchers, not going to 393 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: know where everyone is, and that's why you got to 394 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: keep at it. And we don't know if it was 395 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: indeed a mobile missile. We don't know if it was 396 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: a drone. We have no idea yet what happened. A 397 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: million things could have happened here. You think that I'm 398 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: going to take the word of the Iranians, And let 399 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: me also be clear, if you're taking the word of 400 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 2: the Iranians, oh look what they did, Oh look what 401 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: they're saying. The term useful idiot isn't enough to describe 402 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: how crazy that is, how absolutely. 403 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: Nutty that is. 404 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep our eye on this. I'm going to 405 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 2: uh not. It's not that I'm going to avoid the story. 406 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: I want to make sure I shared it, but I 407 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 2: don't think we're gonna know much. Remember, Iran is seven 408 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: and a half hours ahead. It's a weird thing where 409 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: it's like an extra half hour. I think that's it. 410 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: So let's just call it seven for the sake of 411 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: the argument. So night is fallen, if there, if we 412 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: know where the pilots are, we're certainly not going to 413 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: signal what we're going to do regarding an extraction that 414 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 2: could come from us, that could come from the Israelis. 415 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: And of course, while you have the IRGC desperate to find, 416 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 2: you have the Iranian people who would be outrageously helpful 417 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: to trying to shield them because they know that the 418 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 2: US still engaging, still taking out this regime is better 419 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: for them in their life and their future. But you're 420 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: going to see people say, see, I told you, what 421 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: do you mean to see? 422 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: I told you it's a war? What possibly could you 423 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: have said? 424 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: That people can get hurt in war, that people can 425 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: get killed, that a plane can get shot down. A 426 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 2: plane came malfunction. Absolutely, which brings us back to this 427 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: kind of original argument, almost an origin argument, one that 428 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: would determine, baseline, if there is a moment to fight, 429 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: what do we think that means? I am not asking 430 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: whether or not you think this was the moment to fight. 431 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 2: We can disagree about that. I'm asking a different question. First, 432 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: do you ever think there's a moment to fight? 433 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: Ever? And then what do you think happens in a fight? 434 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: The It seems to me that we could argue this, 435 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: maybe about Americans in Toto, but certainly the leftist, the 436 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 2: woke right, they don't ever have a moment when there's 437 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: a fight. 438 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 3: There's no moment. There's no moment. Well, it must be 439 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: something we did wrong. 440 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: Well, you see, if we only do this, well, if 441 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: we only do that, you see, that's not a real thing. 442 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: I'm asking a question, is or a moment and in 443 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: that fight, what do you think happens? I think it's 444 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 2: it's childlike to think that. And when a fight takes 445 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: place that, when a fight takes place, somehow we come 446 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: out without any issues and everybody else is dead and 447 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: it's all fine. 448 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: What a maddening thing to think. 449 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 2: What an absolutely insane thing to think everything's gonna work 450 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: out great. 451 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: It's what happens when people aren't adults. 452 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: When you don't have adults in the room, doing adult 453 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: things and engaging in adult conversations, you get. 454 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: No more forever wars bull nonsense, and it is. 455 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: Do you think it matters that Marjorie Taylor Green is 456 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 2: screaming about it? 457 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 3: Do you let the terrorists remain? 458 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: It's an interesting point that's made that Iran was trying 459 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 2: to engage a North Korea like positioning. The North Korea 460 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 2: like positioning was how do they and how can they 461 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: fully destabilize a region? North Korea was able to destabilize 462 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: the peninsula because the whether it's South Korea or other nations, 463 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: concern themselves with what happened if they did this or 464 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: did that, well, they would attack South Korea. Well they 465 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: would attack. 466 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: This or that one. Well, we don't want that, so 467 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: we'll just try and keep them at bay. 468 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 2: And by keeping them at bay, it's a really interesting 469 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: post by someone named Gummy m I gummy bear seven 470 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: thirty seven. 471 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: That's certain handle on Twitter. 472 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: I don't know why Britty Hume share days like this 473 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: is interesting and it's an interesting point of view that 474 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: because you did not take out the North Koreans, because 475 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: you did not stop them for fear that they would 476 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: engage militarily here, send people in there, or engage violence here, 477 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: you gave them the room to develop a nuclear weapon, 478 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: and now you have to deal with the nuclear in 479 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: North Korea because you weren't willing to do the thing, 480 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: because you were so worried about, oh, they're going to 481 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: do this. It's bad or it's worse. Which one do 482 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: you want? It's bad or it's worse, Which one do 483 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: you want? That's the question, and that's a really important one. 484 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: If you take a look at Iran, Iran constantly was 485 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: engaging the saber rattling, engaging in levels of threat, wanting 486 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: to threaten neighbors, so nobody would move to and no 487 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: one move against them, so they could then get a 488 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: nuclear weapon, and once they did, they would hold the 489 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: entire region hostage. They could do anything anywhere with impunity. 490 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do? Which is why we aren't 491 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: smacking the Russians around visit the Ukraine because. 492 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 3: Of those nuclear weapons. They don't have a military that 493 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 3: could do anything. 494 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: They could throw bodies at a problem, and they could 495 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: certainly continue to wear down and grind down the Ukrainians. 496 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: They don't have a. 497 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 2: Military worth a good Holy dang, they've got some missiles 498 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 2: that could do some really bad destruction to the globe. 499 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 3: So if you don't take out. 500 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: This regime, this threat that is the Iranians, you give 501 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: them the room to create the nuclear weapons. So for 502 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: those people bad or worse, well, it doesn't have to 503 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: be like that. We don't have to care about them. Okay, 504 00:30:54,920 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: eight dollars a gallon gas, It is your move, your move. 505 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 2: And this is why we talk about adults, and this 506 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: is why votes matter so much, and this is why 507 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: the childlike problem of no more forever wars and all 508 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: the rest doesn't actually do anything. I agree, we shouldn't 509 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: go to war for light and transient causes. We shouldn't 510 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: have entanglements for light and transient causes. But when we do, 511 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: we should act decisively. We destroy the enemy until they 512 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: are dead, and then we go home. 513 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: No nation building. 514 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: Reports right now say that one service member has been 515 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: rescued after this US fighter jet jet was shot down 516 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: over southwest Iran. 517 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 3: This multiple reports now saying this. This is good. 518 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: Let us see both of them rescued returned safely on 519 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. A very happy 520 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: Easter one and all. Today is good Friday for those 521 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: who indeed celebrate. 522 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: And as we. 523 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: Have seen and we've discussed, King Charles is going to 524 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: be the last. Not I'm sorry, it'll be King William 525 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: who'll be the last King of England. George will never 526 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 2: be King of England. Tony Kats Tony Kats today. Why 527 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: do I say this? Because it was announced that King 528 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 2: Charles will not be giving an Easter greeting. 529 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 3: There will be no Easter message from the king. Why not? 530 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: Why no Easter message from the king. 531 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: There was a message from King Charles for Ramanan. 532 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: Why not Easter. 533 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: Well, there are only so many reasons for such a thing, 534 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: and one of the. 535 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: Reasons could be. 536 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: You don't want to upset what is now a dominant 537 00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: force in. 538 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: Your own name. If England does not do. 539 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: Something about Islamists in their nation, William will become king 540 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: just because of timing, and George the eldest son will 541 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: never be king and the Church of England will fall. 542 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 2: Now I want to say for the record that we 543 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: have been discussing this for a while now. We have 544 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: been discussing this before anybody. No Easter message, no Eastern 545 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: message from the king. 546 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: You're talking about the fundamental of Christianity, the basis. There's 547 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: no message you lead the church, there's no message. You're 548 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: telling a story there. Now. 549 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: I have always known King Charles except for being able 550 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: to say Camilla is my girl and sticking through all 551 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: the abuse he took post Diana that I respect, but 552 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: as a leader week outrageously left, outrageously daft. And that's 553 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 2: why I've always discussed this. As Prince William, this is 554 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: his task, whether he likes it or not, to do 555 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: what his grandmother did not and his father absolutely cannot 556 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: save England from those who you have invited into the 557 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: country to ruin you. I it has to be him. 558 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: There's no one else I do not know if he's 559 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: up to the task. I do know if it's not him, 560 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: it will not happen. Britain will fall. And yes, it 561 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: is not lost on me that over the there in 562 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 2: England they literally held no King's rallies when they have 563 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: a king. 564 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: I mean, the jokes right themselves, everybody. It's not like 565 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 3: you have to work hard. All you have to do 566 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 3: is observe and be. 567 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 2: Like huh ah, that's funny. 568 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 3: And there it is. 569 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: Prince William will be King William, and he will be 570 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: the last king unless he does something about this because 571 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 2: his father has submitted and capitulated. 572 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 3: There's no respect in that at all. This is Tony 573 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 3: Kats today,