1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Okay, lots of moving parts on the Mark Sanchez case. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Let's bring back in one of the best in the business. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: I look, I think from a local perspective, nobody's covering 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: it like this guy, Ryan Headrick from the WIBC newsroom. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: Ryan, Hello, Hey, what's going on guys? 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Okay, So the big several big things yesterday with the 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez case. First of all, the judge recused herself. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: So four big things yesterday, and this all unfolded over 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: the course of like fifteen minutes. 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: It was very quick. Room. 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So the big thing is you're right, Jennifer 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: Prince Harrison has recused herself and there's really only four 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: reasons why a judge would recuse themselves of a case. 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: In Mary. 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Yes, this is very This is very perplexing to me because, 16 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: like you said, it's a pretty tight when you know, 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: set of rules and I'm not sure which one box 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: she's checking. 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: Go ahead, So personal reasons, financial reasons, prior involvement were 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: biased in the case. Now a lot of people are 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: speculating that her light sentences have compelled her to step aside, 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: but I don't think that's it because if these judges 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: aren't bothered by light sentences of killers, arm robbers and 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: drug traffickers. Why would she be bothered by a perceived 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: bias in the Mark Sanchez case? Right? 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: So, now, from a media perspective, there was some kind 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: of cheering on this because she had said no dice 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: on cameras in the courtroom. Now there's been a re 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: application to try to do we have a new judge. 30 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, his name is James Osbourne. And you're right, 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: there was an infusion of camera requests yesterday, back to 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: back to back camera requests right after she recused herself. 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: But we don't have a ruling on that yet and 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: not to my knowledge, I checked my case about an 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: hour ago and there's nothing been decided in that. 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: Does she have to say why she recused herself? 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 2: Nope. 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 3: Maybe she's just a huge football fan. 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well she's the president of Mark Sanchez fan Club. 40 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: She was a long standing member of the Jets. 41 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: Job maybe she had a lot of of his Brookie cars. 42 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: I texted a couple of cops I know in Indianapolis 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 2: to get some sort of perspective. And the Indie Star 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: has done a little digging with this as well. The 46 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: only thing we could do, is guess. Right now, it's 47 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: just a crapshoot at this point. Why did she recuse herself, 48 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: we don't know. But what we do know is when 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: she did recuse herself, this kind of moved the court date. 50 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: So the court dates have now been shifted, and the 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: first pre trial conference is scheduled for October twenty second, 52 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: and that's it, I believe one o'clock. 53 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: They've already set a trial date. That I mean, they're 54 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: not gonna actually have a trial on this day. But 55 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: the trial date has been set for December eleventh, it has. 56 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: And then there's something before that a week before that, 57 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: a second pre trial conference I think on December third 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: or fourth. 59 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: Now he wants to string or his legal team, I 60 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: would guess, would want to string this out because you 61 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: talked about was as two days ago you were with 62 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: a and you said, in the Marion Kenny judicial system, 63 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: if you can convince the court you were an addict 64 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: and you're recovering, that's your basically your get out of 65 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: jail free car. 66 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: And it tugs at their heartstrings. It goes right along 67 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: with the pet causes, the social justice causes that this 68 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: prosecutor in his office believes so so much in and 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: if they could put somebody in rehab or save somebody's 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: life under the guise of the addiction treating the addiction, 71 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: which is their kind of core issue, then I think 72 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: they're all for it. 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: So he said that he's recovering right now, but you're 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: saying if they put him in some sort of rehab 75 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: it will help him. 76 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: I think it's a great defense for him, because why, 77 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: how else, besides being just ungodly evil, could you explain 78 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: attacking a sixty nine year old grease truck delivery guy 79 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: in an alley in Indianapolis. And I don't mean to 80 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: make light of this, but what other defense would you 81 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: be able to offer other than addiction. 82 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Header from the WBC newsroom is with us. We're 83 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: talking about the latest on the Mark Sanchez case. 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: So when he left the courthouse and Fox fifty nine 85 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: had asked him a few questions, he answered just a 86 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: few about how he was recovering and think the doctors. 87 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: He also mentioned that he'd be able to talk soon. Yeah, 88 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: when do you think that'll be? And what's what would 89 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: he say? 90 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: I think it would be a well crafted statement. I 91 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: think it would be a sit down on National TV 92 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: with a with a very kind of like a softball friendly, 93 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: a friendly news anchor that would just underhand him questions. 94 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when you look at his history, 95 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: I think it's telling that. On Sunday, his son's mother, Daniel, 96 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: who's eight years old, he has three kids, she spoke 97 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: on yeah, on Instagram and said, I'm not surprised. None 98 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: of this surprises me. What does that mean? She just 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: kind of left us hanging. 100 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: So he's got a couple issues, right. Number one is 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: he's got obviously this potential prison sentence if he's convicted 102 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: in front of him. But there's all also the underlying 103 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: what was he doing in that alley? And why was 104 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: he why did he you know, we talked about this 105 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: tew days ago when you were with us. He keeps 106 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: like circling back into that alley and then what made 107 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: him so mad? And depending on what the answers to 108 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: those questions are, the I mean, that may be the 109 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: thing he doesn't want to address out of all of this. 110 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying that video sparked way 111 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: more questions than it provided answer. 112 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever if you were ever 113 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: picked on in high school, I was there is a 114 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: guy that I will I'm going to name him because 115 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: I just feel I'm so angry to this point. His 116 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: name was is Kenny Picard. He was a linebacker on 117 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: our football team, and I'll never forget he was walking 118 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: up the steps to six period class and he turned 119 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: around and just punched me, and I just fell back right. 120 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: He was a football player, big bully type guy. When 121 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: I saw Mark Sanchez in that alley circling like a shark, 122 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: circling is prey to me, that spoke of a guy 123 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: like Kenny Picard who was always looking for a fight. 124 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: I mean, here's a guy. He walked up and down 125 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: West Washington Street, west toward the pub, and back east 126 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: or east toward the pub, then back west knowing it 127 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: was closed, and then went back to the alley, looked 128 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 2: over his shoulder and you can see on the camera 129 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: he's looking at the at the bay where Perry Toll 130 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: is unloading grease. 131 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. The story, man, this is going to be fascinating. 132 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: And that's where, depending on what they are worried about 133 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: coming out, he does look like he or appears, you know, 134 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: and obviously look it's it's security, you know, footage, et cetera. 135 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: It's black and white, et cetera. But it does look 136 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: like he's zoning it on this guy. Not just like 137 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: there was some switch the guy flip, but like he 138 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: was appears very shark like about this dude. 139 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 2: You know. I also want to go back to the 140 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: the prior involvements or biases. So if you look up 141 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: Perry Toll in my case, there's a mortgage foreclosure case 142 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: that he had and the judgment was for one hundred 143 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: and fifty eight thousand dollars. Bank of America secured that 144 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: judgment against him and a person I believe was his wife. 145 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: I wonder if there's and we're just kind of spitballing here, 146 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: but I wonder if there's some part of this judge 147 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: Prince Harrison, who accused herself because she believes that she 148 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: may not be able to deliver a fair verdict in 149 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: the case. Because Perry Tool actually has a couple of 150 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 2: cases against him. One's a mortgage case, a foreclosure case, 151 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: and the other one had something to do with his 152 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: truck in twenty thirteen. So I mean, there's all types 153 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: of speculation about why he filed the suit against Fox. 154 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: Who knows? But I know if Mark Sanchez punched me 155 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: or assaulted me, I'm suing him. 156 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: Okay, now you mentioned that lawsuit. In regards to Sanchez, 157 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: He's got some legal bills that are most likely stacking 158 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: up at the criminal case, the civil case, and possibly 159 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: an employment case. Everybody is still listing him as a 160 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: Fox analyst. Is there any word on that his employment? 161 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: And when do you think Fox will make a decision. 162 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: I don't think they can make a decision until after 163 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: this case is closed, because I know in twenty fifteen 164 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: when I had to check myself into rehab from a 165 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: radio station I was working at, they wanted to fire 166 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: me because I was in no call, no show on 167 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: multiple occasions. And I remember the news director coming up 168 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: to me and saying, it's only a matter of time 169 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: before we get to fire you because we know you're 170 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: going to go back out. We know you weren't taking 171 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: treatment seriously. So Fox has yanked Sanchez off of all 172 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: broadcasts for now while the court case goes on. But 173 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: there's no way, there's no way that he ever appears 174 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: on Fox again, I would imagine. 175 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: But they can't terminate him at this point. 176 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: They can't because it's a case where he can turn 177 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: around and sue them again. The addiction thing. 178 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: Is a big play. 179 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: It's a big play here because it is against federal 180 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: law to fire somebody that has an addiction if they 181 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: have not accepted or if they've not been offered help. 182 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: It is against all It's an ADA thing. 183 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,479 Speaker 1: So if I just say I'm addicted to hating rotten politicians. 184 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: No, no, if you were, will play a hypothetical. And 185 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: I hate to drop your name like this, but if 186 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: you were to come in here drunk and our boss said, 187 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: you know what, you can't be on the air today, 188 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: and you came and drunk again and they sent you home. 189 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: They said, if you don't get help, we're going to 190 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: fire you. You know, if you refuse help, then they 191 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: could fire you. But we don't know what Sanchez. We 192 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: don't know what Sanchez is going through. And that's that 193 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 2: is a violation of ADA. I think if if an 194 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: employer were to fire somebody, it before the employee sought 195 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: help for their problem, so. 196 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: This extra time will work in his favor. 197 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: I still think I said it with you and Ethan 198 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: on the show. I still think I think the addiction 199 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: is his core defense. Why else would you be in 200 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 2: an alley assaulting a sixty nine year old man. 201 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: Ryan Hendrick from the WIBC Newsroom, Where can people find you? 202 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: X on at sure to cover, and then TikTok at 203 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: sure to cover number two, and then of course WIBC 204 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: dot com