1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: You was listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show. It's 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve Eve here on the Hammer and Nigel Show. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Hammer. Big Nightge is out, Chris Hammer is 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: filling in, going and in studio from the WIBC Newsroom, 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: John atte Cruz, John at we were talking during the 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: break here. In addition to being an amazing multifaceted journalist 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: here at WIBC, you teach like a hip hop dance class, right, Yes. 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: I used to professionally dance basically my entire life, and 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: I went on tour with multiple groups and did all 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: that stuff. 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Did you go on tour with name names? 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I'm it's gonna date me. 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm older than you are. Don't give me that crap. 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: Okay, do you know who Black Street is? 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, Diggity idyt. 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I went on tour with you. 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: Do I know who Black Street is? Teddy Riley? Come on, yes, 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: I was. 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: I was eighteen nineteen. It was before social media, before 20 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: we had the cell phones. I don't have anything from 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: my time being their back dancer, but I went on 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: tour with them for abudyear and a half. 23 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: So when you're like at a wedding and somebody puts 24 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: on no giggoty. Now do you feel like, Okay, it's PTSD, 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: it's game time. I got to go out there foot 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: on the show. 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: Literally don't remember what I even danced to about that, 28 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: No clue, it's OLLI blur. 29 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: So yesterday we did the biggest stories in Indiana for 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Today I challenged you to find the 31 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: biggest stories in all of America for twenty twenty five. 32 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I have to tell you I had a little 33 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: bit of a hard time. There's so many things that 34 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: happened this year. Once I started kind of backtracking and 35 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: seeing all the big news that happened throughout the United States, 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, how am I going 37 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: to like whittle all this down to five? So again 38 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: I went a chronological order, and of course we had 39 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: to start with the inauguration of President Trump. 40 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going chronological order here. These aren't like 41 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: your one through five rank, this is chronological chronological. 42 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I started in January. So January, here we 43 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: are January twentieth, as he was sworn in as a 44 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: forty seventh president of the United States, and I thought 45 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: that was obviously a really big deal considering where we 46 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: were the past few years, and that was a major change. 47 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: And it seemed like the inauguration went a little smoother 48 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: than his first one. You had like some actual bands 49 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: that wanted to perform, you didn't have Sean Spicer up 50 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: there going it was the biggest gathering in the history 51 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: of humanity, Like, it seemed like it went a little smoother. 52 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And then we fast forward to March, where 53 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: I think things started to get a little dicey when 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: it came to the topic of immigration. I think March 55 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: is when it really first started to hit, and that's 56 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: when the whole Salvador in prison came up. And then 57 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: I still really started to hammer in on lots of 58 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: deportations and all that. And I actually just recently looked 59 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: at the Homeland Security website and as of September they 60 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: have deported two million people or have self deported in total. 61 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: The self deportations are amazing to me. So you've got 62 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: a group of people here saying, all right, if it 63 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: means I'm going to have a chance to maybe come back, 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: I will do it the right way here, right. I 65 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: think that's fascinating I think that's the goal. This is 66 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: what you're looking for. 67 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, yes, So I think that was a big deal, 68 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: And honestly, I think it still carries over because even 69 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: now I think some of that immigration stuff is carrying 70 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: over through everything that's happening in Minnesota with the whole 71 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: fraud happening there. So then we went through March and 72 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: then here we go with May and we have the 73 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: fourteenth Pope, Pope. 74 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: Leo, an American Poe. 75 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: An American pope from Chicago. 76 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: All the deal is a White Sox. I knew Chris 77 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: was going to go there. 78 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: I'm not going to get behind this. 79 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: Guy, right, get there. 80 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: The only person that could fix the White Sox is 81 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: the Lord. So they're going to need all the help 82 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: they can get over there, right right. 83 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: That's uh, that's something because if you go back and 84 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: watch like video of the White Sox World Series run 85 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: from a number of years ago, one of the shots 86 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: shows him in the crowd, like the Pope was there. 87 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: Divine Intervention was on the south side of Chicago. I 88 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: just hope he doesn't park the popemobile down there because 89 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna steal it or it'll be on blocks by 90 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: the time he gets out there to see. 91 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: It again, right, So yeah, I thought that was a 92 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: big deal. 93 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: Especially in the newsroom. 94 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: We were just getting like play by play of everything 95 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: happening with him when that was all happening. And then 96 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: obviously I want to fast forward. This is a number 97 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: four heading into September Charlie Kirk's assassination, which just completely 98 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: I felt like the world just literally stopped. 99 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: This was what it sounded like on our program. This 100 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: is the audio of when we made the official announcement 101 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: that Charlie had passed. Now, we had been getting tips 102 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: for about fifteen minutes from unverified sources. He's dead, he's 103 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: passed away. No, he's on life support. As you know, 104 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: John Att, there's so much, so much coming in and 105 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot of it's wrong when stories break right out 106 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: of the gate, so you gotta be right. You have 107 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: to nail it. And we found out when President Trump 108 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: put something on social media and this was from the 109 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel Show that day. Nige, we had been 110 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: seeing drips and drabs of information coming to us the 111 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: last thirty so minutes. We wanted to make sure we 112 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: had a reliable source here. I feel like this is 113 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: about as good as you're going to get. President Trump 114 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: writes on truth Social Quote, the great and even legendary 115 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk is dead. No one understood or had the 116 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: heart of the youth in the United States of America 117 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by all, 118 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: especially me, And now he's no longer with us. Milania 119 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: and my sympathies go out to his beautiful wife, Erica 120 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: and family. Charlie, we love you. The shooter is still 121 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: at large, And that was live coverage for when we 122 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: saw the post by President Trump announcing the death of 123 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. And at the time, like Nigel points out, 124 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: we didn't know who the shooter was. Somebody had been 125 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: taken into custody and pictures were taken, but it wasn't 126 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: the guy. And now we know that the suspect Tyler Robbinson, 127 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: and would be found a couple days later. 128 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just a crazy time, as you know, 129 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: like we were in the newsroom just like floored and 130 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: then again just getting all the information and then kind 131 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: of like you're in this space of like is this 132 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 2: really happening right now? 133 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: I think everybody remembers where they were when they saw 134 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: or first heard about this story. I was at you, Indy, 135 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: I just got done with the class. I was working 136 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: on a project. And the way I found out about 137 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: it is all the videos of it that were being 138 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: shared on Twitter that were just disturbing and very disturbing. 139 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: And you know, my son, he's going to be sixteen 140 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: this weekend, and he saw it at school and at 141 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 2: the time did not have a phone. 142 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, there are some very up close shots that 143 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: just break your heart. I feel like that's probably the 144 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: biggest story of twenty twenty five. But what else do 145 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: you have that rounds out your list? 146 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: Last one rounds out? I just I think this towards 147 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: the end of the year, with elections coming on, just everything. 148 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: The lovely mayor elect over in New York City Zorn MANDOMI, Yeah, 149 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: I mean that's a I think that's a big deal. 150 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: A Democrat who is a socialist is completely re turning 151 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: what politics are going to look like in New York City. 152 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be an experiment for sure. Absolutely. 153 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's never worked anywhere else. Now. Any socialists 154 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: will tell you, well, I do a different type of socialism. Okay, 155 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: it's never worked anywhere else, but you do you. 156 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: We'll find out as a socialists. Nobody in the history 157 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: of humanity has ever done socialism correct apparently, is what 158 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: I'm learning from these people. 159 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: It's not that it fails all the time, it's nobody's 160 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: done it, done it correctly. Excellent, interesting, john Nette. Tomorrow 161 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: we will be talking about celebrity deaths and the biggest 162 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: pop culture entertainment stories of twenty twenty five. 163 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: That'll be fun. 164 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: If somebody wants to follow you on social media or 165 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: challenge you to a hip hop dance contest, how can 166 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: I find you? 167 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: All my handles is just the John at Cruz. I'm 168 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: everywhere on social media. Can find me and connect with me. 169 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: Who would be better in your dance class? Chris Hammer, 170 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: who is twenty one years old, but he's like a 171 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: fifty year old, or me. 172 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: He's like a fifty year old. 173 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: Oh, he's the oldest twenty one year old you've ever 174 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: seen in your life. 175 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: I am horrible at dancing. 176 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: You do not want to say. 177 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: I have to say, you have a couple of shots 178 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: at tequila and you'll do perfect. 179 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: I'll be like Elaine out there doing the little kicks. 180 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Johnette thank you. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.