Speaker 1: The Frames per Second podcast. You always good.
Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome to another France per Second episode. I am
Speaker 2: your host, Rod Here to my right, got Kenneth b
Speaker 2: Inch across from here and got Spiked, and next to
Speaker 2: him we got Mike Ctom. You know it's good today
Speaker 2: we are here to talk about movie franchises that should
Speaker 2: have ended sooner.
Speaker 3: I feel like we talked about this before.
Speaker 2: Maybe because we've talked about franchises before, or sequels and
Speaker 2: things like that, that might be why I think we
Speaker 2: talked about that. I know we've definitely said here before
Speaker 2: like things running too long or like you know, can't
Speaker 2: believe that they're still going on. So I guess like
Speaker 2: what we'll do is, like I said, I'll go around
Speaker 2: the room, maybe pick about everybody got two or three?
Speaker 3: I got three?
Speaker 2: Three, Okay, so we'll get three from everyone of movies
Speaker 2: that you felt like kind of went on a little
Speaker 2: too long, and then we'll kind of like get into
Speaker 2: that and break it down.
Speaker 3: What I'll do, I'll start with Spike.
Speaker 1: Something with Spike.
Speaker 2: I know you're not the movie guy, so I'll just
Speaker 2: you know, start with you first.
Speaker 4: My first one is going to be a classic movie,
Speaker 4: but it went one movie too long, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: call it The Godfather?
Speaker 3: Whoa Godfather? Three?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It wasn't terrible, but it did not hold up the
Speaker 4: quality of those first two, like classic movies.
Speaker 3: Interesting, I'm one with the Godfather.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I have heard that one. I like the part. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like three. I do agree that it doesn't quite
Speaker 2: hold up to the first two, but I do like
Speaker 2: it though. I do like it. I think it's a solid,
Speaker 2: solid trilogy. So now that's a good one, though, Ken,
Speaker 2: what's your first one?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: For me, I'm going to go with Fast and Furious.
Speaker 2: I mean that's man, I think that's the obvious one.
Speaker 3: You could have stopped at the second one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they just can't make them, even when
Speaker 5: Paul Walker. They're still making these movies and now you
Speaker 5: just watch them to see how ridiculous they are. But
Speaker 5: I stopped watching them, you know, because it's just like,
Speaker 5: why y'all still doing this?
Speaker 2: You know, so they can be, but it just don't.
Speaker 3: It's just it's a running joke at this point, Like
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's turned through a meme of itself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but no, that's a good one.
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the most obvious when I
Speaker 2: hear people joking about Fast and Furious, but they still
Speaker 2: go see them, they still go see them.
Speaker 3: My first one is Child's Play.
Speaker 2: I feel like that ran way too line, like the Brider,
Speaker 2: Chucky's and all that type of ship.
Speaker 1: I just did that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't nothing like the first two. The first two,
Speaker 2: I can't remember what the third one was, but three,
Speaker 2: I can't remember with three.
Speaker 3: You remember what three was? Yeah, see, I don't remember. Well,
Speaker 3: three might have been Bride to Chucky, might have.
Speaker 2: Been, right, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 2: I was feeling that when it got there. I wasn't
Speaker 2: feeling I was okay with up until two. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that's my first one. I just yeah, I'm straight on.
Speaker 2: I'm straight on. The Child's Place, Yeah, it was like
Speaker 2: seven plus of them joints. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 3: But the show was good. I know you said the
Speaker 3: show was, But that's why I didn't.
Speaker 2: Really want to see the show, because I was just like,
Speaker 2: I'm all Child's played out.
Speaker 3: I didn't even see the other movies after three is
Speaker 3: the Curse of Chucky.
Speaker 2: The Curse of Chucky that one might be okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't remember that one might be okay, so up
Speaker 2: until three might be okay yeah, but after that it
Speaker 2: just got a little too ridiculous for me.
Speaker 3: I didn't like to like to check it. That was
Speaker 3: pretty cool.
Speaker 2: She was funny, yeah, straight straight, all right, Mike, what
Speaker 2: you got you'll.
Speaker 3: First go and get the obvious went out the way
Speaker 3: and say Star Wars m so long? What I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm surprised you're surprised that I would say
Speaker 6: that Star Wars has gone on way Star Wars has.
Speaker 3: Gone on The movies at least have gone on way
Speaker 3: too fucking long.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be.
Speaker 3: Huh. Would you be open to them doing another Well,
Speaker 3: they're gonna do them.
Speaker 6: They're gonna keep doing them until they bleed the entire
Speaker 6: franchise dry, until people stop going to the movie theater
Speaker 6: to see him. But it should have stopped after the prequels.
Speaker 6: The sequel trilogy should have never happened.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmm, at least.
Speaker 6: Not under fucking Kathleen Kennedy and and the rest of
Speaker 6: you know, Disney. If it stayed with George Lucas. Fine,
Speaker 6: let's see what you can do. But in this current iteration, no,
Speaker 6: even though I've liked some of the stuff that Star
Speaker 6: Wars Disney has done, but it should have ended. Yeah,
Speaker 6: kind of sequel trilogy is worth a ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of surprised to me. I thought
Speaker 2: you still had hope for them to get it.
Speaker 3: There's always right and it's that's the line that Princess
Speaker 3: Leah says.
Speaker 6: Anyways, and One was good, Yeah, but I Rogue One
Speaker 6: wasn't good enough to justify the trash we got with
Speaker 6: the sequel trilogy. So I would I would sacrifice how
Speaker 6: much I love Rogue One and sacrifice how much I
Speaker 6: loved and or to not have to deal with the
Speaker 6: fact that I actually had to watch.
Speaker 3: Those sequel trilogy movies because they are garbage to me. Garbage, gotcha?
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought we had some good moments out of
Speaker 2: those though. Out of the sequel trilogy that was the
Speaker 2: one fight in the Throne room was tight ray and
Speaker 2: but it was it.
Speaker 6: Was wrapped up in a shitty movie. Yea, even though
Speaker 6: I know there's some weirdo that it's the best.
Speaker 3: Storm we ever made.
Speaker 5: Y'allo the pizza all off their fingers.
Speaker 3: Right, now actually.
Speaker 1: Clean.
Speaker 2: I like seeing the Millennium Falcon again in action like
Speaker 2: it was. It was some moments I liked out of those,
Speaker 2: Out of those movies, I just.
Speaker 7: Go back to, you know, New Hope and Empire strikes
Speaker 7: back into the laying Falcon doing cool ship, not just
Speaker 7: being out in the fucking field somewhere with a tarp
Speaker 7: over it.
Speaker 3: It was fucking so bad.
Speaker 8: And you didn't like Kylo Wren, not what he became
Speaker 8: like when they first showed him. It was then the
Speaker 8: fact that he got beat by some woman who had
Speaker 8: never fucking trained, the fact that you had Finn showing
Speaker 8: up and he actually held his own and he'd never
Speaker 8: have any It was just dumb.
Speaker 3: When it came out. I was fine with with uh
Speaker 3: Force Awakens, but going back.
Speaker 2: I haven't gone back, that's the thing. But when it
Speaker 2: when it came out, I was like, Okay, I funk
Speaker 2: with him. It was the ones after that that made
Speaker 2: it everything. I got you. Yeah, that was a surprise.
Speaker 2: All right, what's the second one? Spike, y'all gonna hate
Speaker 2: me for this one? Man, because y'all know y'all said
Speaker 2: it was good.
Speaker 4: He about to say some bullshit, So I went and
Speaker 4: watched it, and it just wasn't as good as the
Speaker 4: first one. I've seen the first one late because y'all
Speaker 4: made me and that's back.
Speaker 3: To the future. Oh, you ain't like the second one,
Speaker 3: not like the second one? You didn't like the second.
Speaker 4: The first one was so good, like I felt like
Speaker 4: it was original. I feel like the characters were great.
Speaker 4: I liked everything about the first one like y'all said
Speaker 4: I would. But then the second one was just like
Speaker 4: watchdrench and repeat. No, I didn't like this character that
Speaker 4: sad around. I didn't like the sporting betting angle. I
Speaker 4: didn't like how Doc was acting like. I just did
Speaker 4: not like the second one. I just felt like I
Speaker 4: was watching the same Movie's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's that's disappointing. That's disappointing. Man, oh man, Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, damn, I would not expecting that. I will
Speaker 2: give you the third one. The third one isn't that great.
Speaker 1: It was not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the third one isn't that great. So it went
Speaker 2: maybe one too many? Yeah, or they just should have
Speaker 2: just got the third one, right. I don't think I
Speaker 2: think three would have been good, but they just didn't
Speaker 2: get that. They just didn't get the third one, right,
Speaker 2: that's all okay, all right, that's a that's an interesting pick.
Speaker 3: All right, Ken, what's your second one.
Speaker 5: I'm going to say a franchise that despises or does
Speaker 5: not like and it's Saw.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Saw as like I.
Speaker 3: Don't know, twenty seven thirty three.
Speaker 5: Movies out, like you know. And the thing is, I
Speaker 5: don't want to spoil it. I don't know you Saw yeah,
Speaker 5: because the villain is dead and they keep bringing Saw
Speaker 5: back with all these different versions. I think the last
Speaker 5: one they did, they did like a flashback version of him.
Speaker 1: It's just so weird. Yeah, well, you know, keep keep
Speaker 1: it going.
Speaker 5: But yeah, Saul, just you know, it got to the
Speaker 5: point now where that the first couple of times I
Speaker 5: forgot where I stopped off. Now I don't even really
Speaker 5: really go watch them or get hyped to watch them
Speaker 5: the way.
Speaker 1: I used to. So yeah, they just they just yeah,
Speaker 1: they just ran it up. Bro.
Speaker 3: It was it was, it was, It's time to go.
Speaker 3: We can move on to something else.
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Speaker 3: My next one is going to be Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like they they they didn't have to keep
Speaker 2: going with those movies. I just feel like they're just
Speaker 2: trying to keep getting more just just crazier, like they're
Speaker 2: trying to experiment.
Speaker 3: Now you got mutant.
Speaker 2: Dinosaurs and all this other shit. It's just like, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's over. It's fucking over, Like why are we
Speaker 2: still going with the story? I think we liked the
Speaker 2: last one. I mean that could be okay, but it's
Speaker 2: just okay. They're not gonna hold up to the original
Speaker 2: Jurassic Parks. So it's just like y'all just keep trying
Speaker 2: to make up shit. And I want to say the
Speaker 2: last one, we were just like we had to suspend
Speaker 2: a lot of belief In the last one, I believe
Speaker 2: and like when she fell into.
Speaker 3: Water and yeah, it was like what the fuck?
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I just think just just just stop,
Speaker 2: just stop making just dress.
Speaker 5: I think we accepted them for what they are. We
Speaker 5: didn't expect a lot of much of anything. They're not
Speaker 5: going to hold up.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, they're just not gonna hold up. They're
Speaker 2: not going to hold up. So yeah, just just just stop.
Speaker 2: It just stopped that franchise. So yeah, that's my second one, Mike,
Speaker 2: what's your second one?
Speaker 3: Jaws? Josted, Oh, you think it went too long?
Speaker 6: Josh, be a one and done movie, because how do
Speaker 6: y'all do you remember the other ones?
Speaker 3: I don't. After after we reviewed.
Speaker 2: Jaws, I wasn't I hadn't had to go was yeah,
Speaker 2: I couldn't remember the other ones because after it ending
Speaker 2: they blew.
Speaker 3: A shark up. I was like, well, how did they
Speaker 3: make another Jaw four?
Speaker 6: But if you remember, it was a new shark but
Speaker 6: the shark, but it was the same people from the
Speaker 6: first movie, and the shark was following them around because
Speaker 6: he was mad.
Speaker 3: The shark followed them hundreds of miles. Don't get revenge,
Speaker 3: have good memories, but the other shark was dead. Who
Speaker 3: was this new shark? It made no fuck?
Speaker 5: That wasn't That wasn't in the second one, Rod that
Speaker 5: was a I think that was the third one, the Revenge, Yeah, no,
Speaker 5: the Revenge was four four.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I did the same thing.
Speaker 5: I rewatched all the Charles movies, and I do remember
Speaker 5: that this motherfucker film Hunted.
Speaker 3: Down was like I remember what you did? How you? Yes?
Speaker 3: I did not remember that.
Speaker 5: This ship was crazy even the second one. You could
Speaker 5: kind of The second one was fine, but right after
Speaker 5: that and they probably shouldn't really travel.
Speaker 3: The second one I ain't never seen. I don't think too.
Speaker 6: Jaw should have been a one and done film. Man
Speaker 6: had no business making for them. It's a fucking shark man,
Speaker 6: What are we talking about?
Speaker 3: You really?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I didn't even think about that one. That's a
Speaker 1: good one. That is a good one.
Speaker 2: I guess I can't think about it because I don't
Speaker 2: think I watched them at after a certain point.
Speaker 1: They did three D.
Speaker 3: That was three yep, three D.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think two was okay, but then three was ridiculous
Speaker 6: and four was just offensive. It's like y'all really trying
Speaker 6: to sell me on a shark is following a family
Speaker 6: across the fucking ocean.
Speaker 3: I'm pissed off. What are you talking about, dude?
Speaker 1: Because the boys were adults now.
Speaker 3: Right remembers them who wrote this? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Alright? All right, Spike? What's your last final word? Man?
Speaker 4: Mine didn't have to be a sequel to this. The
Speaker 4: first one was perfect, second one. This is probably the
Speaker 4: biggest discrepancy between one and the two ever. And I
Speaker 4: know it was just some money grab but coming to
Speaker 4: America too, Oh yeah, it should have never happened. It
Speaker 4: should never been thought of, It should never touched. Did
Speaker 4: will approach it? They should have been laughed out of
Speaker 4: the room by Eddie Murphy and arsene O Hall like
Speaker 4: that should too. Was terrible, especially the way that they
Speaker 4: did it. That they could have revapped the story, maybe
Speaker 4: had new characters, and I hoped it was just funny,
Speaker 4: but the way they did too was just what offensive young.
Speaker 3: Kid or something. They came looking for him, so I
Speaker 3: don't even remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: It wasn't great.
Speaker 2: It wasn't great because James and Tina passing away, so
Speaker 2: he wasn't even in the movie except the I think
Speaker 2: it was in one part and then that was it. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: that's a good one. Ken what's your last and final one?
Speaker 1: Die Hard?
Speaker 3: All you think it went last too long?
Speaker 1: It did?
Speaker 5: So Yeah, one, two and three were cool. The third
Speaker 5: one has Samy L. Jackson in it, and I liked
Speaker 5: doing that movie. What is it Living die Hard?
Speaker 3: I forgot about that with the sun.
Speaker 5: Yes, and then they had the other one after that
Speaker 5: mind that one, and then they counseled the six film
Speaker 5: but yes, yeah, they were trying to they were trying
Speaker 5: to go six. Yeah, six movies, deep bro, But yeah,
Speaker 5: yeah they had uh, yep, hold on, I'm gonna look
Speaker 5: it up. But they had yeah, and yep, Live three
Speaker 5: of die Hard and then A Good Day to Die Heart.
Speaker 1: I did not see the that was in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3: And it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, we were good like it because you
Speaker 1: wait until two thousand and seven.
Speaker 5: Now I'm looking at it two thousand and seven to
Speaker 5: make a fourth film with the yeah, with his son,
Speaker 5: and I think this is the one when he took
Speaker 5: out the damn car with the helicopter with the hell yeah,
Speaker 5: I liked it.
Speaker 1: It was just ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they should have they should have ended with with
Speaker 5: three and we would have been good.
Speaker 1: We would have been fine.
Speaker 2: Damn Well, I guess I kind of feel the same
Speaker 2: way about about this one. I don't think all of
Speaker 2: the mission impossibles are necessary.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think they.
Speaker 2: I mean that that could have been a very solid
Speaker 2: three series, three movie franchise. I don't know why they
Speaker 2: kept bringing this dude back for these for these missions.
Speaker 2: I know it was a famous TV show back in
Speaker 2: the day, so that, you know, they got plenty to
Speaker 2: pull from from there.
Speaker 3: But ship what what? E seventh film? A film? This
Speaker 3: was supposed to be the final one, right, supposed to be.
Speaker 1: It was supposed to.
Speaker 2: Be, But I guarantee they probably going to stretch the
Speaker 2: ship out one more time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think this went. This ran on way
Speaker 3: too long.
Speaker 2: They can be fun, don't get me wrong, But are
Speaker 2: they necessary?
Speaker 3: No, they are not necessary.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'm on here now. That was his final film,
Speaker 5: but he may end up still producing them. But I
Speaker 5: don't necessarily disagree with you, Rod, You know, I don't
Speaker 5: mind the movies. Yeah, and but yeah, eight of them is.
Speaker 3: A last A lot, bro, It is a lot of movies.
Speaker 5: And I think you expose yourself to ruining the franchise.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The good thing is, for the most part in between
Speaker 5: they kept the quality up, you know, for a lot of.
Speaker 2: Them, right, and they had iconic moments of him running
Speaker 2: that became a thing seeing him run and all that
Speaker 2: type of ship. But but yeah, it just it just
Speaker 2: ran on way too long. So yeah, that's my third
Speaker 2: and final one. Mike, what's the third one?
Speaker 3: My third and final one? That was three? No, he's
Speaker 3: the last, he's the last one, third one, all right, dunk.
Speaker 6: This will probably upset a few people, but I don't care.
Speaker 6: Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Texas Chainsaw Massacres should.
Speaker 3: Have been a one and done movie. It never should
Speaker 3: have been franchised.
Speaker 6: The first movie is absolutely perfect, perfect. Two was a
Speaker 6: fucking travesty, and then three and anything else did after
Speaker 6: that was just ridiculous and it never came anywhere near
Speaker 6: the magic of that first film. So Texas Chainsaw Massacre,
Speaker 6: like I said, should have been a one and done.
Speaker 2: A cool anybody have any honorable mentions as to what
Speaker 2: shouldn't have went on that long?
Speaker 3: I got one honorable mention, hell Raiser. I've never seen
Speaker 3: hell Raisers should have stopped after three. I was looking.
Speaker 6: I did even see all of these, but Bloodline, actually
Speaker 6: all I did see all of these Bloodline, Inferno, and Resurrection.
Speaker 6: Those movies were all shit, and it got really bad
Speaker 6: ones Doug, I forget his last name, Doug Bradley.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to do Pennet anymore.
Speaker 6: And they got some random ass dude that looked nothing
Speaker 6: like him. Terrible, terrible, And then this remake they did
Speaker 6: was garbage.
Speaker 1: Hell Raiser.
Speaker 6: Hell Raiser really should have only been two films because
Speaker 6: the first two are so good, but I don't even
Speaker 6: accept three as being passable.
Speaker 3: The rest of them were fucking stupid.
Speaker 4: That was the honorable mentioned. It's a cult classic. But
Speaker 4: they didn't need to make three of them. They even four.
Speaker 4: Y'all remember the movie.
Speaker 3: Major League.
Speaker 4: Three Leagues in three Oh wow wow, yeah, major League Man,
Speaker 4: they could have cut that off of two of them.
Speaker 4: Two first two of classics, I believed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, those are to be ridiculous fun though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not good movies overall.
Speaker 5: They're just, you know, definitely for fans of the series,
Speaker 5: you're not gonna watch them, think you're gonna watch anything.
Speaker 1: But they have a lot of them. They keep making them.
Speaker 3: They keep making it will not stop, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my my honorable mention would probably be Halloween Kiss just.
Speaker 3: Stop after one.
Speaker 2: And I didn't even like one when I went back
Speaker 2: and watched it, I don't even like one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1: Halloween would be mine.
Speaker 3: That was the Halloween h two O and all that
Speaker 3: ship that was around. Think so one of you doing
Speaker 3: karate or something because.
Speaker 1: One had busts around. I think one had ll Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it got ridiculous. They got ridiculous. Halloween was
Speaker 2: terrible and they still try and we review one recently.
Speaker 3: Coming back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no straight, but no, yeah man, that was just
Speaker 2: a quick what's that?
Speaker 1: What was that? That was a patron? I think it
Speaker 1: was just a conzo.
Speaker 3: Oh it's just one ink?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well yeah man, that was just a quick
Speaker 2: combo that we wanted to give you guys, man, hoping
Speaker 2: you enjoyed that. You know, If y'all got any other
Speaker 2: suggestions of different topics y'all want us to, you know,
Speaker 2: talk about, yeah, man, send them over and we'll we'll discuss.
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