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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second podcast. You always good.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome to another France per Second episode. I am

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Speaker 2: your host, Rod Here to my right, got Kenneth b

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Speaker 2: Inch across from here and got Spiked, and next to

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Speaker 2: him we got Mike Ctom. You know it's good today

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Speaker 2: we are here to talk about movie franchises that should

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Speaker 2: have ended sooner.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we talked about this before.

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Speaker 2: Maybe because we've talked about franchises before, or sequels and

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Speaker 2: things like that, that might be why I think we

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Speaker 2: talked about that. I know we've definitely said here before

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Speaker 2: like things running too long or like you know, can't

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Speaker 2: believe that they're still going on. So I guess like

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Speaker 2: what we'll do is, like I said, I'll go around

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Speaker 2: the room, maybe pick about everybody got two or three?

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Speaker 3: I got three?

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Speaker 2: Three, Okay, so we'll get three from everyone of movies

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Speaker 2: that you felt like kind of went on a little

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Speaker 2: too long, and then we'll kind of like get into

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Speaker 2: that and break it down.

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Speaker 3: What I'll do, I'll start with Spike.

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Speaker 1: Something with Spike.

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Speaker 2: I know you're not the movie guy, so I'll just

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Speaker 2: you know, start with you first.

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Speaker 4: My first one is going to be a classic movie,

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Speaker 4: but it went one movie too long, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: call it The Godfather?

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Speaker 3: Whoa Godfather? Three?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It wasn't terrible, but it did not hold up the

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Speaker 4: quality of those first two, like classic movies.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, I'm one with the Godfather.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I have heard that one. I like the part. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like three. I do agree that it doesn't quite

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Speaker 2: hold up to the first two, but I do like

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Speaker 2: it though. I do like it. I think it's a solid,

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Speaker 2: solid trilogy. So now that's a good one, though, Ken,

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Speaker 2: what's your first one?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: For me, I'm going to go with Fast and Furious.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's man, I think that's the obvious one.

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Speaker 3: You could have stopped at the second one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they just can't make them, even when

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Speaker 5: Paul Walker. They're still making these movies and now you

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Speaker 5: just watch them to see how ridiculous they are. But

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Speaker 5: I stopped watching them, you know, because it's just like,

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Speaker 5: why y'all still doing this?

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Speaker 2: You know, so they can be, but it just don't.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's a running joke at this point, Like

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It's turned through a meme of itself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but no, that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the most obvious when I

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Speaker 2: hear people joking about Fast and Furious, but they still

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Speaker 2: go see them, they still go see them.

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Speaker 3: My first one is Child's Play.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that ran way too line, like the Brider,

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Speaker 2: Chucky's and all that type of ship.

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Speaker 1: I just did that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ain't nothing like the first two. The first two,

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Speaker 2: I can't remember what the third one was, but three,

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Speaker 2: I can't remember with three.

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Speaker 3: You remember what three was? Yeah, see, I don't remember. Well,

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Speaker 3: three might have been Bride to Chucky, might have.

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Speaker 2: Been, right, I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 2: I was feeling that when it got there. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: feeling I was okay with up until two. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's my first one. I just yeah, I'm straight on.

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Speaker 2: I'm straight on. The Child's Place, Yeah, it was like

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Speaker 2: seven plus of them joints. Yeah, yeah, it's a lot

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Speaker 3: But the show was good. I know you said the

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Speaker 3: show was, But that's why I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Really want to see the show, because I was just like,

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Speaker 2: I'm all Child's played out.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even see the other movies after three is

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Speaker 3: the Curse of Chucky.

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Speaker 2: The Curse of Chucky that one might be okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can't remember that one might be okay, so up

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Speaker 2: until three might be okay yeah, but after that it

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Speaker 3: I didn't like to like to check it. That was

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Speaker 3: pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: She was funny, yeah, straight straight, all right, Mike, what

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Speaker 2: you got you'll.

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Speaker 3: First go and get the obvious went out the way

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Speaker 3: and say Star Wars m so long? What I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm just I'm surprised you're surprised that I would say

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Speaker 6: that Star Wars has gone on way Star Wars has.

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Speaker 3: Gone on The movies at least have gone on way

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Speaker 3: too fucking long.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be.

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Speaker 3: Huh. Would you be open to them doing another Well,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna do them.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna keep doing them until they bleed the entire

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Speaker 6: franchise dry, until people stop going to the movie theater

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Speaker 6: to see him. But it should have stopped after the prequels.

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Speaker 6: The sequel trilogy should have never happened.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmm, at least.

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Speaker 6: Not under fucking Kathleen Kennedy and and the rest of

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Speaker 6: you know, Disney. If it stayed with George Lucas. Fine,

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Speaker 6: let's see what you can do. But in this current iteration, no,

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Speaker 6: even though I've liked some of the stuff that Star

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Speaker 6: Wars Disney has done, but it should have ended. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: kind of sequel trilogy is worth a ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of surprised to me. I thought

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Speaker 2: you still had hope for them to get it.

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Speaker 3: There's always right and it's that's the line that Princess

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Speaker 3: Leah says.

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Speaker 6: Anyways, and One was good, Yeah, but I Rogue One

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Speaker 6: wasn't good enough to justify the trash we got with

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Speaker 6: the sequel trilogy. So I would I would sacrifice how

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Speaker 6: much I love Rogue One and sacrifice how much I

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Speaker 6: loved and or to not have to deal with the

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Speaker 6: fact that I actually had to watch.

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Speaker 3: Those sequel trilogy movies because they are garbage to me. Garbage, gotcha?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I thought we had some good moments out of

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Speaker 2: those though. Out of the sequel trilogy that was the

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Speaker 2: one fight in the Throne room was tight ray and

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Speaker 2: but it was it.

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Speaker 6: Was wrapped up in a shitty movie. Yea, even though

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Speaker 6: I know there's some weirdo that it's the best.

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Speaker 3: Storm we ever made.

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Speaker 5: Y'allo the pizza all off their fingers.

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Speaker 3: Right, now actually.

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Speaker 1: Clean.

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Speaker 2: I like seeing the Millennium Falcon again in action like

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Speaker 2: it was. It was some moments I liked out of those,

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Speaker 2: Out of those movies, I just.

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Speaker 7: Go back to, you know, New Hope and Empire strikes

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Speaker 7: back into the laying Falcon doing cool ship, not just

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Speaker 7: being out in the fucking field somewhere with a tarp

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Speaker 7: over it.

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Speaker 3: It was fucking so bad.

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Speaker 8: And you didn't like Kylo Wren, not what he became

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Speaker 8: like when they first showed him. It was then the

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Speaker 8: fact that he got beat by some woman who had

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Speaker 8: never fucking trained, the fact that you had Finn showing

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Speaker 8: up and he actually held his own and he'd never

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Speaker 8: have any It was just dumb.

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Speaker 3: When it came out. I was fine with with uh

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Speaker 3: Force Awakens, but going back.

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Speaker 2: I haven't gone back, that's the thing. But when it

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Speaker 2: when it came out, I was like, Okay, I funk

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Speaker 2: with him. It was the ones after that that made

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Speaker 2: it everything. I got you. Yeah, that was a surprise.

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Speaker 2: All right, what's the second one? Spike, y'all gonna hate

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Speaker 2: me for this one? Man, because y'all know y'all said

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Speaker 2: it was good.

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Speaker 4: He about to say some bullshit, So I went and

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Speaker 4: watched it, and it just wasn't as good as the

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Speaker 4: first one. I've seen the first one late because y'all

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Speaker 4: made me and that's back.

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Speaker 3: To the future. Oh, you ain't like the second one,

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Speaker 3: not like the second one? You didn't like the second.

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Speaker 4: The first one was so good, like I felt like

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Speaker 4: it was original. I feel like the characters were great.

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Speaker 4: I liked everything about the first one like y'all said

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Speaker 4: I would. But then the second one was just like

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Speaker 4: watchdrench and repeat. No, I didn't like this character that

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Speaker 4: sad around. I didn't like the sporting betting angle. I

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Speaker 4: didn't like how Doc was acting like. I just did

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Speaker 4: not like the second one. I just felt like I

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Speaker 4: was watching the same Movie's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's that's disappointing. That's disappointing. Man, oh man, Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, damn, I would not expecting that. I will

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Speaker 2: give you the third one. The third one isn't that great.

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Speaker 1: It was not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the third one isn't that great. So it went

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Speaker 2: maybe one too many? Yeah, or they just should have

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Speaker 2: just got the third one, right. I don't think I

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Speaker 2: think three would have been good, but they just didn't

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Speaker 2: get that. They just didn't get the third one, right,

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Speaker 2: that's all okay, all right, that's a that's an interesting pick.

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Speaker 3: All right, Ken, what's your second one.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to say a franchise that despises or does

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Speaker 5: not like and it's Saw.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Saw as like I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know, twenty seven thirty three.

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Speaker 5: Movies out, like you know. And the thing is, I

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Speaker 5: don't want to spoil it. I don't know you Saw yeah,

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Speaker 5: because the villain is dead and they keep bringing Saw

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Speaker 5: back with all these different versions. I think the last

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Speaker 5: one they did, they did like a flashback version of him.

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Speaker 1: It's just so weird. Yeah, well, you know, keep keep

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Speaker 5: But yeah, Saul, just you know, it got to the

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Speaker 5: point now where that the first couple of times I

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Speaker 5: forgot where I stopped off. Now I don't even really

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Speaker 5: really go watch them or get hyped to watch them

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Speaker 5: the way.

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Speaker 1: I used to. So yeah, they just they just yeah,

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Speaker 1: they just ran it up. Bro.

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Speaker 3: It was it was, it was, It's time to go.

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Speaker 3: We can move on to something else.

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Speaker 3: My next one is going to be Jurassic Park.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they they they didn't have to keep

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Speaker 2: going with those movies. I just feel like they're just

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Speaker 2: trying to keep getting more just just crazier, like they're

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Speaker 2: trying to experiment.

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Speaker 3: Now you got mutant.

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Speaker 2: Dinosaurs and all this other shit. It's just like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's it's over. It's fucking over, Like why are we

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Speaker 2: still going with the story? I think we liked the

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Speaker 2: last one. I mean that could be okay, but it's

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Speaker 2: just okay. They're not gonna hold up to the original

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Speaker 2: Jurassic Parks. So it's just like y'all just keep trying

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Speaker 2: to make up shit. And I want to say the

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Speaker 2: last one, we were just like we had to suspend

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Speaker 3: Jaws? Josted, Oh, you think it went too long?

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Speaker 3: The shark followed them hundreds of miles. Don't get revenge,

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Speaker 3: Down was like I remember what you did? How you? Yes?

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Speaker 6: Jaw should have been a one and done film. Man

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I didn't even think about that one. That's a

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Speaker 4: Mine didn't have to be a sequel to this. The

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Speaker 3: It wasn't great.

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Speaker 2: that's a good one. Ken what's your last and final one?

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Speaker 1: Die Hard?

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Speaker 2: I mean that that could have been a very solid

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Speaker 3: But ship what what? E seventh film? A film? This

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Speaker 1: It was supposed to.

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Speaker 2: Be, But I guarantee they probably going to stretch the

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think this went. This ran on way

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Speaker 2: They can be fun, don't get me wrong, But are

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Speaker 3: No, they are not necessary.

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Speaker 3: A last A lot, bro, It is a lot of movies.

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Speaker 5: And I think you expose yourself to ruining the franchise.

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Speaker 2: Them, right, and they had iconic moments of him running

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Speaker 3: My third and final one? That was three? No, he's

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Speaker 3: the last, he's the last one, third one, all right, dunk.

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Speaker 6: This will probably upset a few people, but I don't care.

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Speaker 6: Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Texas Chainsaw Massacres should.

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Speaker 3: Have been a one and done movie. It never should

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Speaker 6: The first movie is absolutely perfect, perfect. Two was a

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Speaker 2: A cool anybody have any honorable mentions as to what

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Speaker 3: I got one honorable mention, hell Raiser. I've never seen

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Speaker 6: I did even see all of these, but Bloodline, actually

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Speaker 6: And they got some random ass dude that looked nothing

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Speaker 6: Hell Raiser really should have only been two films because

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Speaker 3: The rest of them were fucking stupid.

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Speaker 4: That was the honorable mentioned. It's a cult classic. But

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Speaker 4: Y'all remember the movie.

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Speaker 3: Major League.

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Speaker 4: Three Leagues in three Oh wow wow, yeah, major League Man,

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Speaker 1: But they have a lot of them. They keep making them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my my honorable mention would probably be Halloween Kiss just.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't even like one when I went back

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Speaker 3: That was the Halloween h two O and all that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it got ridiculous. They got ridiculous. Halloween was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no straight, but no, yeah man, that was just

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Speaker 3: Oh it's just one ink?

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