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Speaker 1: I think that happened yesterday with Bernard Ryman, in the

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Speaker 1: And they figured that out last night Fever in Action.

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Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison was on the pre and post game. Eddie,

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Speaker 1: But they rebounded nicely. I thought Kelsey Mitchell played really

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Speaker 5: And I heard the stadium is rocking too. How many

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Speaker 4: It's hard to tell only day three, but one thing

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Speaker 1: We're a colts camp here Grand Park in Westfield. Cam

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Speaker 6: Really?

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Speaker 5: Now, your job is probably harder than mine.

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Speaker 4: of that. So everything that I'm seeing from back there

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Speaker 4: being a safety, I have to echo it to the linebacker,

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Speaker 4: to the corners, and then the linebackers will get that

441
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Speaker 4: to the d line and everything can change. So I

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Speaker 4: think that's the most important thing being a safety, being

443
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Speaker 4: a good communicator.

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Speaker 1: Do you prefer when you are lined up in that

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Speaker 1: situation that everybody is lined up in terms of a

446
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Speaker 1: man coverage or would you rather it be that everybody

447
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Speaker 1: is in a zone coverage and you've got kind of

448
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Speaker 1: a wider array that people are having to cover.

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Speaker 5: I like the zone just because I think it's tougher

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Speaker 5: on quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: I think if we just line up in man, it's

452
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Speaker 4: telling the quarterback this is what we're in. You guys,

453
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Speaker 4: figure out a way to beat us, and that's simple.

454
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Speaker 4: There's a million man beaters in the world. But if

455
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Speaker 4: we can still play man out of his zone. Look,

456
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Speaker 4: we could still play zone out of his own look,

457
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Speaker 4: just being able to mix things up. But I prefer

458
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Speaker 4: us being able to look like we're, you know, just

459
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Speaker 4: chilling in his zone. And if we're going aggressive, we're

460
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Speaker 4: bringing some heat and going in the man coverage.

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Speaker 5: We can drop into it late.

462
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Speaker 4: But in my opinion, I would never want to show

463
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Speaker 4: a quarterback what we're doing from the jump.

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Speaker 2: That's the voice of Cam buying him.

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Speaker 1: By the way, new member of the Indianapolis Colts four

466
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Speaker 1: year contract playing at the safety position. I did notice,

467
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Speaker 1: by the way, you went to a high school that's

468
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Speaker 1: produced like a thousand NFL players.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, what was the name of Corona Cintennia High

470
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Speaker 4: School in Corona, California.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now you also went to high school with and

472
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Speaker 1: I don't know this, I could be totally off here.

473
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Speaker 1: The Pacers about five or six years ago had a

474
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Speaker 1: center they took out of UCLA. KA was his first ding.

475
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Speaker 1: Everybody just called him e because he had a tricky

476
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Speaker 1: to yes day. But he was here for two or

477
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Speaker 1: three years. I think he was your graduating class yees

478
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. We were in Spanish class again, were you

479
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Speaker 1: guys close? Yeah, we're really cool. Did you talk to

480
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Speaker 1: him once you came to Indianapolis about his experience in India?

481
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Speaker 2: Or have you not told me?

482
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Speaker 4: Because I completely forgot he played with the Pacers. Now

483
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Speaker 4: that now that you're letting me know that, I completely

484
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Speaker 4: forgot that was a while ago.

485
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Speaker 2: That's unfortunately.

486
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Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of Pacer fans for

487
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Speaker 1: got he played for the Pacers, right, But he.

488
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Speaker 2: Was good Ucla and then drafted here.

489
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's why it feels like so long ago

490
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Speaker 4: because I had to do five years in college.

491
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Speaker 5: What did he do one year?

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

493
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Speaker 4: One year and went pro. So it's it's super cool

494
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Speaker 4: just the fact that he was able to do that.

495
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Speaker 4: But yeah, we're we're producing basketball and football players. We've

496
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Speaker 4: got Jared McCain. He just got drafted from my high school.

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Speaker 2: Him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people, A ton.

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Speaker 2: Of guys, right, A lot of guys. Now.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, how much of the Spanish dreamer be honest?

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Speaker 5: A good amount.

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Speaker 4: When I'm listening to it, I probably can't speak it

503
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Speaker 4: much anymore, but I can understand when i'm listening. Actually,

504
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Speaker 4: was that was one of the weird subjects I was

505
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Speaker 4: really good at.

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Speaker 1: Now do you speak and pardon my naivete here? What

507
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Speaker 1: is the native? The guyloads in the Philippines. The guy

508
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Speaker 1: look t A G A L O G.

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Speaker 2: Are you fluent? No?

510
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Speaker 5: But I'm about thirty forty percent there, so I can understand.

511
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Speaker 2: So when you're over there, though, you're having to speak

512
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Speaker 2: it right? Or is English?

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Speaker 4: I'm learning everybody speaks English there, so it's annoying. When

514
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to practice and I speak to somebody at

515
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Speaker 4: the glog, they speak to me in English back, so

516
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Speaker 4: I'm like, you're not helping me here, But it's cool

517
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Speaker 4: of being able to learn. My wife she speaks three languages,

518
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Speaker 4: two Filipino languages and then obviously English, so she's helping

519
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Speaker 4: me a lot. But just being out there, for sure,

520
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Speaker 4: I'm absorbing stuff. And I have a cousin, my nephew.

521
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to teach him English and he's teaching me.

522
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Speaker 4: So it's kind of like, as I'm teaching him English,

523
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Speaker 4: he's teaching me their language.

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Speaker 1: Here's my last thing. I have a weird thing, and

525
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Speaker 1: people listening to the show not this. I love mascots.

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Speaker 1: I like the outfits of mascots. I like the zaniness

527
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Speaker 1: of mascots. I like all of it. I went three

528
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Speaker 1: years in a row with IndyCar We were out there

529
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Speaker 1: during the time that COL was playing games, and I

530
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Speaker 1: went to COL games and I met the Golden Bear.

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Speaker 2: That's a terrible mascot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's kind of creepy.

533
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Speaker 2: He's creepy. He's very creepy.

534
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Speaker 1: It also looks like not like the Chucky Cheese that

535
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Speaker 1: got arrested yesterday in Florida, not that level prize.

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Speaker 2: That's brutal, right, like they couldn't wait.

537
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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, or like, let's take the helmet off it held.

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Speaker 1: Up, but the cal Golden Bear guy that looks like

539
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Speaker 1: they bought it at the garage sale in nineteen thirty eight, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they went to traditional like keeping it the same

541
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Speaker 4: as it was back then.

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Speaker 2: I think that's your responsibility.

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Speaker 1: Your responsibility now is the alump in the NFL is

544
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Speaker 1: to get a new golden bear out there.

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Speaker 4: I got you because he does no cool thing like blue.

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Speaker 4: He has like a trademark. The dance that he does

547
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Speaker 4: our mascot a cat is walking around with his hands

548
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Speaker 4: behind his back. He's like got rre exactly.

549
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Speaker 1: That is scary, is the right way of saying it,

550
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Speaker 1: and a lot of offenses, hopefully will find it scary

551
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Speaker 1: when they look to see what sort of a junk

552
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Speaker 1: that the Colts defense is throwing at them. Cam bind

553
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Speaker 1: them the new member that will be quarterbacking, if you will.

554
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Speaker 2: That is part of lou Anarumo's scheme. Cam.

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Speaker 1: It is a pleasure to have you man. Welcome to Nina.

556
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Speaker 1: Thank you for having to have me back on the show.

557
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Speaker 1: I held the fan long enough. We'll let you go

558
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Speaker 1: and sign your.

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Speaker 4: John the first Coast jersey I've seen Forciate Coach Practice.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Cam buying them here on Colts Practice. It

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Speaker 1: is a Friday Grand Park and Westfield where you'll find

562
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Speaker 1: a squaring company on the fan. Now, how about that

563
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Speaker 1: for Superman and the phone Booth? Eddie I'm pretty proud

564
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Speaker 1: of myself.

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Speaker 3: Really, are you not?

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Speaker 2: Are you not?

567
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Speaker 3: I never doubted you.

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Speaker 2: So I will.

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Speaker 1: I will give a glimpse behind the curtain because I

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Speaker 1: actually believe in total transparency. On this radio station, okay,

571
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Speaker 1: and on this radio show, I should say, you missed.

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Speaker 3: Me so much that you decided that you needed to

573
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Speaker 3: bust your Heini. That's correct, Downtown, that's correct. After you

574
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Speaker 3: got off the air there we can bind him.

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Speaker 1: So the Colts practices end at eleven am, and it's

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you what. Today was hotter than the last two.

577
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Speaker 1: And the Colts have been fabulous so far. Thank you

578
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Speaker 1: to Matt Conti and the Colts pr staff for providing

579
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Speaker 1: us different interviews to do and conduct at the end

580
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Speaker 1: of each practice. We had obviously Alec Pierce day one.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was great. We had Bernard Ryman yes

582
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Speaker 1: today made some waves, as I mentioned, even from a

583
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Speaker 1: national standpoint about his contract situation. And then cam Biden

584
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Speaker 1: might have been the best of the three, just in

585
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Speaker 1: terms of being loquacious and fun engaging and also knowledgeable

586
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Speaker 1: obviously about the game and just life in general. But

587
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Speaker 1: knowing that it is going to be dangerously warm today

588
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Speaker 1: and honestly, please be careful if you're out and about

589
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Speaker 1: because it is already bad and it's going to be

590
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Speaker 1: a lot worse here in the next hour or two.

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Speaker 1: And this is something I was not going to mention,

592
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Speaker 1: but I will now because I think it merits mentioning,

593
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Speaker 1: just because of the reason why now I just came

594
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Speaker 1: all the way back here, so I had partially because

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Speaker 1: I miss you, Eddie.

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Speaker 2: That is true.

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Speaker 1: But once we're done with the interviews that we conduct

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Speaker 1: just before the show begins. So those interviews that you hear,

599
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Speaker 1: we obviously are doing it right as practice ends. I

600
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Speaker 1: think most people know that clipping that office saving it

601
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Speaker 1: as a test, that's there you go. So we conduct

602
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Speaker 1: those interviews. So last night I said, you know, what,

603
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Speaker 1: would it be possible for me to just tape that

604
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Speaker 1: first segment including the interview with whatever player we do,

605
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Speaker 1: and then immediately leave Grand Park and come back downtown.

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Speaker 1: And so thank you to you know, Lee who we

607
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Speaker 1: work with on the digital side, and Cam who we

608
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Speaker 1: work with from the side of engineering, and then Todd

609
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Speaker 1: Meyer for coordinating it, and Eddie uall we have it.

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Speaker 1: Soon as I was done interviewing about eleven forty I

611
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Speaker 1: got in the car and drove from Graham Park back

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Speaker 1: down here. And part of the reason for that if

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm sure no one cares of this, but I'm

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Speaker 1: going to mention it anyway. I don't think that my

615
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Speaker 1: dad would have a problem with me mentioning this because

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Speaker 1: my mom, I believe, put this on social media.

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Speaker 2: But my dad.

618
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Speaker 1: On Sunday evening, my dad had a stroke and so

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Speaker 1: my dad's eighty four years old. Fortunately, my mom was

620
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Speaker 1: a hero and immediately noticed that something was off and

621
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Speaker 1: got immediately called nine one one and got because she

622
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Speaker 1: was trying to get him up off of the couch,

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Speaker 1: and he was saying to my mom, look, I, you know,

624
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Speaker 1: I need your help here. He had laid down to

625
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Speaker 1: take a nap on the couch. They're watching the Cubs game,

626
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: and then he just you know, she said, well, you

627
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Speaker 1: know it's he said, like, wake me up at six

628
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Speaker 1: or something at seven o'clock, and so when she went

629
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Speaker 1: to wake up, he said, you know, I I You've

630
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Speaker 1: got to help me out here, or you know, I

631
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Speaker 1: need help. And my mom realized then that he was

632
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Speaker 1: basically a dead weight. He was not his body was

633
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Speaker 1: not moving and assisting to get up, so she called

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Speaker 1: nine one one. They immediately came. I think they recognized

635
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Speaker 1: that my father had had something beyond just a dehydration,

636
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Speaker 1: so he was taken to the hospital. They determined that

637
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Speaker 1: he had a neurological not a cardiovascular, but a neurological,

638
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: so basically a clot within the brain. I'm at the

639
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: brain stem. He was very understandably, so, you know, just

640
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: kind of confused on Sunday Monday. Notably, the good news

641
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: is this, I think at this point my dad is

642
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: beyond the situation of it being life threatening, life altering perhaps,

643
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: and he is in good spirits. He is now getting

644
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: his strength back, he knows where, you know, he's pretty loocid.

645
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: I mean, matter of fact, I went yesterday to see him,

646
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: and the first thing he said when I walked in was, hey,

647
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: so which quarterback are they starting? Which one was getting

648
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: the starting reps? So, but the challenge in situations like

649
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: that is you can have a good moment and then

650
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, tougher one, and then back to a good one.

651
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: So I say all of that only because you want

652
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Speaker 1: to privately keep family things private, you know what I mean?

653
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: I get that, But at the same time, I just

654
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: have always felt like there's this responsibility and I know

655
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: my dad would say the same thing, of you have

656
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: a unique opportunity and platform to utilize the microphone that

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Speaker 1: we have not for ourselves, but to just continue to

658
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Speaker 1: make people aware of things that not only are the

659
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: most important, but also that you can learn from as

660
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: I last years reading and listening to your body or

661
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: that of your loved ones and getting attention immediately for it.

662
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: And you know, my dad's probably a lot like me,

663
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: and the fact that you know we love attention. So

664
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: making that call to nine to one one and getting

665
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: to professionals immediately and first and foremost is such a

666
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: critically important step because and my parents' neighbor, Amy is

667
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: a saint as well, because immediately was on it of

668
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: what you need from your mom standpoint, what can I

669
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: do to help her? I mean, this town and the

670
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: reason I love this city is because there is this

671
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: and we all have it within the pockets of this

672
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 1: city that we live. But we look out for each

673
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: other in this town. And I've lived places where I

674
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: don't know that that's the case. And you know, every

675
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: single person that within our bubble as this, as people

676
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: have found out you know that my dad's of my

677
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: dad's situation, they are people reach out, people do what

678
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: they can, people help out. And we are very fortunate,

679
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: my sisters and my mom and I and Shannon that

680
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: at this point, for my dad is just a matter

681
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: of getting strength back and getting back and you know,

682
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: trying to strive back to the point where everything is

683
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: back to that one hundred percent. But admittedly, and selfishly speaking,

684
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: part of the reason why I wanted to be back

685
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: here in studio is because I wanted to be closer

686
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: to that net. I wanted to be closer to where

687
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: that is happening. And even though I don't think it's

688
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: because I'm expecting some sort of a phone call, we

689
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: are not at this point, thank goodness and by the

690
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: grace of God and the actions of a lot of heroes.

691
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: But you just.

692
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: When things like that happen, you just want to feel

693
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: like you're close to it, and you want to feel

694
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: like you're not too far away, and that that rubber

695
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: band when it expands out, is not like you're stretching

696
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: it too thin where you're not going to be able

697
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: to bounce right back to where you need to be.

698
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: So thank you to.

699
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: Everybody who worked hard and making it possible for me

700
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: to be where I need to be. And we go

701
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: from there. There is still plenty to talk about, including

702
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: I thought about this on that yesterday as I was

703
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, I told my dad, I'm like, Dad, you know,

704
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: hul Cogan passed away, and my Dad's like, well, didn't

705
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: Ozzy Osborne pass away? And then, you know, one of

706
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: the first conversations we as a family had had where

707
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: we knew that he was getting his lucidity was in

708
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: recalling moments from The Cosby Show and Malcolm Jamal Warner

709
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: and I did find something interesting in terms of the

710
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: confluence of those three and the legacy of the three

711
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: of them, which I'll share with you the weird brain

712
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: dropping that I had at like three point thirty eight

713
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: in the morning last night, because I can tell you

714
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: been running around fairly fairly often lately and not as

715
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: much sleep. But we'll get into that, and we will

716
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: get into also what cults on the practice field have

717
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: jumped out and made a little bit of a difference,

718
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: or maybe those that we wait to see what we

719
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: might be able to get things going. Kevin Bowen will

720
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: have a lot to say about that conversation coming up.

721
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: He's going to join us one o'clock today, Friday edition,

722
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: a querying company on the fan. Look at Eddie's spinning

723
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: the kiss hits, right, Yeah, A problem with that, No,

724
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: I was, it's interesting. It's a perfect segue, and I'll

725
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: tell you why. Kevin Bowen joining us thirteen minutes from now.

726
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: Thank you to those who offered their wishes regarding my dad,

727
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: and I mean that sincerely. The Gene Simmons. As a

728
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: matter of fact, when I was a kid, I was

729
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: convinced that I had convinced the kids on the street

730
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: that my dad was Gene Simmons. My sister had to

731
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: kiss a Live two album and I had this horrifically

732
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: terrifying image of Gene Simmons with the blood, and I

733
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: told them that my dad actually was Gene Simmons, and

734
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: he had makeup upstairs. I showed him my mom's makeup,

735
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: and I actually thought the kids believed me. So I

736
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: had kind of a wild imagination with that stuff. But

737
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: I thought this interesting, and follow me here, because maybe

738
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: what I'm about to say it makes no sense, but

739
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: in my neuroticism, it made sense when I thought of it.

740
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: In the last week, we've seen three I think really

741
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: significant pop culture icons. You know, we've lost three of them,

742
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: and I am trying to remember the order, but I

743
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: think it was Malcolm Jamal Warner, then Ozzy Osbourne and

744
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: then Hulkgan. But what I think is interesting is whul

745
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: Cogan and Ozzy Osbourne to me have something very in

746
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: common in the fact that they burst onto the scene

747
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: as this not unlike Gene Simmons that we just heard

748
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: from there, but both of those two burst onto the

749
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: scene with this larger than life persona that was a

750
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: little bit scary and was rooted in to an extent.

751
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: In Ozzie's case, I'll say and angst for lack of

752
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: a better phrase, but an intimidation factor, a control of

753
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: the moment factor, and portraying an image and a character.

754
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: You know, Ozzy Osbourne, who, by the way, I believe

755
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: his name actually is John Michael Osborne. I'm sure JMV

756
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: knows this, probably has mentioned that. But Ozzy Osbourne, you know,

757
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: bark at the moon like the occult and this creepy

758
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, John and I talked about it on the

759
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: day that Ozzie passed. When you were a kid, you

760
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: were like afraid of the album covers. You were terrified

761
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: of it. Right, It was, oh my gosh, like what

762
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: in the world. It was literally like scream in the

763
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: dark to put to music. And Hulk Hogan was obviously

764
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: you know Terry Belea. I believe it is how you

765
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: pronounced his last name. But you know, the character of

766
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: Hulk of Hulk Hogan was this, you know, thunder lips

767
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: and like angry and the twenty four inch python arms

768
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: and you know that's right, brother, and ripping his shirt

769
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: and I mean it's massive Hulk, right, and the wrestling

770
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: aspect of it. They were playing and portraying characters, and

771
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: it was then via reality television that both of them

772
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: gave us glimpse into the real persona that allowed them

773
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: to transition from the character that they had portrayed and

774
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: set an image. And it was the reality of television

775
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: that let us know who they really were. In a

776
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: case of Hulk Hogan, it went obviously a little bit

777
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: too far and there was some negatives that came from that.

778
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: But in the initial years of him, as you know,

779
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: with his daughter and being kind of a dad knows

780
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: best guy and whatever else, and you just saw the

781
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: empire that he was in charge of, and it gave

782
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: him a relatability. And in Ozzy Osbourne's case, in you know,

783
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: little things of trying to figure out his how to

784
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: play the radio in his house and his kids and

785
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: dealing with, you know, the relationship with this which was

786
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: a loving one with his wife. You saw the reality

787
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: of who he was as a person, as a person

788
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: versus the persona and there was a relatability there. And

789
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: I found it interesting because the first of those was

790
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: Malcolm Jamal Warner, who we actually knew first as the

791
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: character that made it relatable to us as family. The

792
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: other two it was the second character that they were,

793
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: and I'm using character in air quotes. It was the

794
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: second version of themselves that was the real version that

795
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: we got to know that made them relatable. In Malcolm

796
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: Jamal Warner's case, it was the character that he played

797
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: that made him relatable, not the reality. We didn't know

798
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: the reality of who Malcolm Jamal Warner was. We only

799
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: knew him as theo Huxtable, and as theo Huxtable, Malcolm

800
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: Jamal Warner represented suburban teenage kid, middle to upper middle

801
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: class teenage kid to everyone, and there was an importance

802
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: in that because he was relatable to white suburban America

803
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 1: as an African American guy, and yet African American kids

804
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: loved him too, even though he was being portrayed of

805
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: living in by most stereotype fair or unfair like the

806
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: white world to some extent. But Malcolm Jamal Warner is

807
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: one that we didn't know as well because we thought

808
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: we knew him based on the fictional character of who

809
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: he was, and then everything that we saw after that

810
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: we were comparing to theo Huxtable. It was like theo

811
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Huxtable was his reality. And yes, he went on to

812
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: do some very very good things and was in some

813
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: very good roles and by all account was exactly who

814
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: we were hoping theo Huxtable was with it. And it

815
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: is terribly sad the way that Malcolm Jamal Warner passed

816
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: because it was a family vacation and he was swimming

817
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: with his daughter. I mean terribly, terribly sad, But I

818
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: did think it was interesting that you had the alternate

819
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: timeline of the way that we got to know the

820
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: real version of those three individuals and Ozzie and Whole Cogan.

821
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: I think, you know, reality television is one, and I

822
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 1: think a lot of people forget this as well. There

823
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: was a writer's strike for television in the I want

824
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: to say, late nineties or into the two thousands, and

825
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: that was the birth to a great extent of reality television.

826
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't just because MTV had come up with the

827
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: Real World and people wanted to see what they could

828
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: do with that. That writers strike led to, you know what,

829
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: we've got to come up with content, and we don't

830
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: have writers anymore to write the television sitcoms that we

831
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: were planning on doing. So let's just like do reality

832
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: television and just find people and have a camera follow

833
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: them around. And it let us get to know Ozzy Osbourne.

834
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: It let us get to know hul Cogan, you know it.

835
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: Let us get to know the Kardashians too, I guess

836
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: that for that matter. Well, which Kardashians your favorite?

837
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: Eddie?

838
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: Oh really, I don't know. The only one I know

839
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 3: is Kim Oh come on and Chloe. Okay, I keep going, yeah, see,

840
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's all I got. Yeah, Okay, that's

841
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 3: all I got. Uh Kurney Ah, yeah, Courtney?

842
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: What about the Kylie Jenner? She's also a Kardashian.

843
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, I forgot. Uh huh see, there you go.

844
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: There's a kindle Kendle there.

845
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: Okay, see yeah, Now all of a sudden, Now, all

846
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we tap into the truth.

847
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: There, we know what you're watching.

848
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: It's like me saying that I don't know which the

849
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Orange County. I know every one of them,

850
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: partially because I'm forced to watch it for like an

851
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: hour and a half a night, and every time it's

852
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: on to Shannon, I'm like, can we change the channel? No, no, no,

853
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: hold on a second. They're they're getting ready get in

854
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: a big argument here. We got to watch it. And

855
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: then I'm like, twenty minutes later, I'm like, when is

856
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: this big argument? She's like, well, it's coming up. I'm like,

857
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: how do you know that's well? I watched this yesterday.

858
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: What is it Kylie that's dating Timothy Chalomeaye?

859
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: I always get Kylie And you said there's a kindle.

860
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: Right Kendall and Kylie?

861
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: Yes?

862
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: I think it's Kylie and she's the one that was

863
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: here for the playoffs, right, yeah, whichever one's dating Timothy

864
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: sha Challo.

865
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: Maye, okay them, and I think it was Courtney Courtney Kardashian,

866
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: and then the mom Jenner, Chris Jenner, and then her name.

867
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, they were at the DY five hundred in

868
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: two thousand. I'm guestimating here two thousand and nine, maybe

869
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. Kim Kardashian

870
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: was part of like a diet program that was on

871
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: I think Graham Reyhall's car and as a result of that,

872
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: it was Chris Jenner and one of the Kardashian girls

873
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: were in the garage area on the morning of the

874
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: five hundred, and I was standing right next to him

875
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: as they were bringing a car through and they were

876
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: looking at the car, and believe it or not, people

877
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: hadn't figured out yet like who exactly it was. This

878
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: was right kind of at the Kim was the famous

879
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: Kardashian because of the tape that Eddie never saw, and

880
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: then and then the others weren't as famous yet. But

881
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: I will say they were extremely nice. They were very nice,

882
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: and they were very like respectful of the five hundred,

883
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: and they were kind of in awe of all of it,

884
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: and they were actually pretty down to earth, pretty nice.

885
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I was there for ten or fifteen minutes

886
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: around them, and they asked a couple of questions whatever.

887
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: They were actually very nice.

888
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: But nonetheless people say that that, you know, obviously, celebrity

889
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: passings come come in three. I know Chuck me AGIONI

890
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: passed away yesterday, but Malcolm Jamal warn Or, Ozzy Osbourne,

891
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: Hulkogan three giants this week for sure.

892
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 2: Within pop culture.

893
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me a great Colts question, and I don't

894
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 1: know the answer because I got to practice late. Kevin

895
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: Bowen was there and has been there from the get go,

896
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: and I will ask him the question. In terms of

897
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: one player that we need an introduction on, even though

898
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: we've known his name for a while, we don't know

899
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: much about him. I'll explain next. So the Colts camp, now,

900
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: excuse me, is now into let's see day four, Is

901
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: that right? Day three kind of all runs together at

902
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: this point for me, I'll be honest with you. But

903
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Day three and again, I find it interesting. Although I'm

904
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: not making flip in comment about the fact that there

905
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: were a handful of veterans that got off day two

906
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: in terms of rest day just take it off rest

907
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: day load management. But one of those players, Kevin Bowen,

908
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: joining us now, who has been out there and covering

909
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: extensively Colts Camp. You can read, of course, all of

910
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: his work at one O seven five thefan dot Com.

911
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: You hear him in the morning along with James Boyd

912
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: for the Fan Morning Show. They have been out there

913
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: covering it with each and every snap and every play

914
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: that's taken place. One player, Kevin somebody asked me about

915
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what I'm gonna ask Kevin.

916
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: Because it's not named Anthony Richardson, it's not named cam

917
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: bind him, it's not named Tyler Warren, it's not named

918
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, who was the big talk of camp obviously

919
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: in the past. But Jelannie Woods, Jeelanni Woods, to me

920
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: is a fascinating player because he has not been available

921
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: for health purposes. But the Colts have never wavered from him,

922
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: so clearly they see something that they find to be

923
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: worth the weight. What can you tell me about Jelanni

924
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 1: Woods so far in camp?

925
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, he had a sighting or two, yes, yesterday it's

926
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 7: seven on seven rep he caught I want to say one,

927
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 7: maybe even two balls there, one from Daniel Jones down

928
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 7: the seam. So yeah, I mean he's been available, which

929
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 7: I don't say that, you know, as a shot. I mean, unfortunately,

930
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 7: it's been a major question for him. I just don't

931
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 7: see how he makes the seam. I think the four

932
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 7: tight ends are pretty obvious Tyler Warren, Miley Cox, Will Mallory,

933
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 7: and Drew Ogletree. So I don't know. If he showed

934
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,959
Speaker 7: a flash, maybe you put him on the practice Cluaud,

935
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 7: you've waited this long with him, you might as well,

936
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 7: you know, try to reap the benefits if he's going

937
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 7: to hit that. But yeah, I would find it hard

938
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 7: for him to make the fifty three man roster.

939
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: I guess the question I would have then would be

940
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: this Kevin, and that is, if once Jilanie Woods is healthy,

941
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't look like one that's going to crack the rotation,

942
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: then why did you hold on to him for as

943
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: long as you did through the injuries.

944
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 7: Well, if you were to look really, really good, then

945
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 7: obviously you would put him above whatever will treat Mallory,

946
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 7: you know, Moiley Cox, somebody like that. So I think

947
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 7: you're kind of holding out for all right. If he

948
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 7: you know that that rookie flash that he had, you

949
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 7: know he was a third round to take if he

950
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 7: sniffs getting back to that level, that's why you would

951
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 7: have him. And then again, you know pack to squad rules.

952
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 7: You can hop guys on the practice squad, so you

953
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 7: know ninety man roster. You know, it's not like he's

954
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 7: taking some spot, and you know you're really doing a

955
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 7: disservice to your team by having him around. So I

956
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 7: think it's just simply get him through this rookie contract,

957
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 7: let him have a healthy offseason, see if he can

958
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 7: sniff any of that, and if he does, he keep

959
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 7: him around. If not, which again right now, I would

960
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 7: say it's a no, then you move on.

961
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: Okay.

962
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: Biggest storyline of this camp so far is.

963
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 7: Oh, well, I mean I mean he's got quarterback.

964
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the quarterback.

965
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: Well, okay, let me let me back that up. I'm

966
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: sorry of the things that have happened on the field

967
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: so far that we're not anticipating.

968
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: I guess I should have said it that way.

969
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you know that you did not

970
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: think on Monday when you woke up and you knew

971
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: that was going to be the week of camp was

972
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: going to be something you're talking about, But it's percolated

973
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: and popped up good or bad, and you're like, okay,

974
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: there's a story that was not anticipated.

975
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I'll go away from quarterback in just

976
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 7: a second, but I will start there. I did not

977
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 7: like when we talked last Friday, Jake. I'm sure we

978
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 7: discussed Anthony Rigison back throwing, and my question for you was, Okay,

979
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 7: when does fifty fifty split occur? Like, when does this

980
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 7: competition start back up? When do we really get you know,

981
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 7: back and forth Richardson Jones. I didn't think of the

982
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 7: guarantee we'd have it here on day three, but we

983
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 7: had it on day one and day two and day three,

984
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 7: so you know, that is something that I again, I

985
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 7: didn't think it was a slam dunk at the start

986
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 7: of the week. And you know, so far, assuming Daniel

987
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 7: Jones flits with Richardson tomorrow, it will be exactly a

988
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 7: fifty fifty split through the first four days of camp.

989
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 7: So that is something new. And I think again it's

990
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 7: been a real cop petition. I don't know how high

991
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 7: quality of the competition it's been, but it's at least

992
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 7: been real Defensively. You got to go with Justin Wally

993
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 7: the corner out of Minnesota. I mean, he seems to

994
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 7: be a legit guy for them, at least as a

995
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 7: rookie and someone they trust. Will that be the case

996
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 7: in a month, We'll see, But not many third round

997
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 7: rookies walk into camp with a starting spot, especially at

998
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 7: a position group that I thought you had enough kind

999
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 7: of internally to where you didn't need to put him

1000
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 7: in the starting lineup. And I thin figure that defense,

1001
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 7: you know, I think if anybody that's been out of

1002
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 7: Grand Park, they will have seen, you know, a lot

1003
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 7: of disruption from that secondary knocking balls away, you know,

1004
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 7: creating contested catches and frankly just making it difficult for

1005
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 7: Colts past catchers to come down as a ball. So yeah,

1006
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 7: I say, justin Wally there and the in general, the

1007
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 7: the defense.

1008
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: Kevin, let me give you a statement and you tell

1009
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: me if you agree with it. Okay, And I'll preface

1010
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: it by saying, I thought, and I still think that

1011
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: when the season begin against Daniel Jones is going to

1012
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback of the Colts.

1013
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: Okay. But with that said, let.

1014
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: Me give you a statement and then you tell me,

1015
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen if you think there's any accuracy to it. Okay,

1016
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones cannot win the starting job for the Indianapolis Colts.

1017
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: He simply has to wait until Anthony Richardson loses it.

1018
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 7: Let me certainly understand the question.

1019
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 8: I don't think it's there.

1020
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 7: I think they're very I think they're very open to

1021
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 7: a if Anthony Rigison continues to look like the quarterback

1022
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 7: that he has and shows no improvement and Daniel Jones offers,

1023
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 7: you know, drop me in the middle of the lake

1024
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 7: and stay afloat for a few minutes, they'll go with Jones.

1025
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 7: I don't think it's like a we feel like it's

1026
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 7: got to be Anthony Richardson and he's got this secure,

1027
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 7: you know, padlock on the starting job. Now, I don't

1028
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 7: really view it in that line. I mean, again, if

1029
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 7: you're going to hold Shane Pike and accountable to his words,

1030
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 7: the words he uses the most, or the word I

1031
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 7: should say he uses the most is consistency to evaluate

1032
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 7: the QB, Well, that's definitely Daniel Jones more than Anthony Richerson. Now, today,

1033
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 7: I thought Richardson easily had his best day at camp.

1034
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 7: It's a pretty low bar, but I thought it was

1035
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 7: easily the best day he's had. I thought he probably

1036
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 7: was better than Jones. But yeah, I actually do think

1037
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, coming into camp, I thought Jones

1038
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 7: had the slight lead. But I do think we're getting

1039
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 7: into a little back and forth of the fifty to fifty.

1040
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 7: I still come back to psychans word of consistency. Consistency, consistency,

1041
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 7: and you know, the giants and support Jones at all,

1042
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 7: and if we feel like we've got whatever and above

1043
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 7: average defense and good enough pass catchers and the decent

1044
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 7: O line, then we just need to do this is

1045
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 7: not going to turn the ball over well, I mean,

1046
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 7: so far, Jones, I don't think a eleven or eleven's

1047
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 7: had a single interception, So you know, it is that

1048
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 7: something you would offer for is Jones?

1049
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: Is Jones a base hit guy? Like is Jones? Wade

1050
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: Boggs and Richardson? Is Adam Dunn? You know, you're so

1051
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: captivated by the home runs that you kind of overlook

1052
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: the fall down strikeouts. But yet Wade Boggs just goes

1053
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: out and gets a hit every third time. And that's

1054
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of who Daniel Jones is. Nothing wows you,

1055
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: but that's who he is.

1056
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I could not agree more on the Adam done.

1057
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 7: Anthony Richardson Wade Box seems like quite a compliment. Well, Jones,

1058
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 7: I was thinking.

1059
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 3: Like Mickey Moore and Deani Jerob Walton. Yeah, Mickey Moore

1060
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: is a good one.

1061
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: That's fair.

1062
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, who's your pinch hitter in October twenty second of

1063
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 8: the eighth ending that you're.

1064
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 7: Like, oh, this guy got a hit back in you know,

1065
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 7: mid August.

1066
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 8: You know, maybe he'll yeah, he'll come up collect this time.

1067
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: Dane Orge.

1068
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 3: They've got Dane Orge at quarterback.

1069
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I.

1070
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 7: Certainly understand where you go with that analogy. And yeah,

1071
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 7: and you know it's weird, Jake, because anythink the cold

1072
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 7: tone has changed. You know, back when Richardson was drafted,

1073
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 7: the thought was, hey, it's really hard to create ten

1074
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 7: play eighty yard drives in the NFL. The defenses are

1075
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 7: too good and you've got to create big plays. You've

1076
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 7: got to have a guy that can turn you know,

1077
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 7: whatever the eighty you know, ten eighty play or ten

1078
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 7: play eighty yr drive into four plays eighty yards. And

1079
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 7: you know Richardson, that was the thought with him is

1080
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 7: you'll you'll live with Adam Dunn's with as long as

1081
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 7: he puts a couple in the Ohio River. But you know,

1082
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 7: there's been just wow, combination of the baseball analogy. There

1083
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 7: haven't been enough foul balls, haven't been enough getting on

1084
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 7: base at all, you know, probably a few too many

1085
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 7: few two home runs and then obviously plenty of strikeouts

1086
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 7: and frankly just a lack of availability there.

1087
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 8: But now it's like, well, if we can just be

1088
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 8: more methodical, we can just be more boring, like Jonathan

1089
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 8: Taylor still in his prime, and you know, we've changed

1090
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 8: this defensive coordinator and we've invested in the second area

1091
00:50:59,040 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 8: and the.

1092
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 7: Old line we feel like still has some pieces. So

1093
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 7: that's where I feel like the Colts have changed their

1094
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 7: tune since April twenty twenty three. Now, you know, will

1095
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 7: they you know, back that up with their actions and

1096
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 7: will you know the Jones interesting competition play out in

1097
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 7: that manner. You know, we've got another month to see.

1098
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 7: But I do think from a verbal standpoint, it sounds different.

1099
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen is our guest.

1100
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: You hear him of course in the morning with James

1101
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: Boyd and jeff Rickerd on the Fan Morning Show. Have

1102
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: been out at Colts Camp. Kevin, this is year number

1103
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: what for you in terms of Colts camps.

1104
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 7: I think it's number fifteen fifteen that I've covered.

1105
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so in those fifteen years and you've seen a

1106
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: lot of different storylines and a lot of positions that

1107
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: there was no question who the starter was going to

1108
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: be in battles and et cetera in your experience. And

1109
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying this because I want Colts fans that are

1110
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: listening to give them a barometer here in your experience

1111
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: in fifteen years into your educated eye, the position that

1112
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: camp most often lends itself towards a false hope is

1113
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: what in other words, the workouts that they're doing, the

1114
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: reps that they go through, the style that is played

1115
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: in camp lends itself to a guy to have what

1116
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: looks to be a really good camp, and then invariably

1117
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: that guy doesn't end up making the roster because you're like, yeah,

1118
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: you were watching Fools Gold and what they were working on.

1119
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: Is there a position more often than not that those

1120
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: guys come from.

1121
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 7: It's great question. I don't know if there is a

1122
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 7: position that like annually shows up again and again. I

1123
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 7: think the caveat I would throw in there, Jake, is

1124
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 7: like the position where on the other side of the

1125
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 7: ball you're bad at. So for example, you know, the

1126
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 7: secondary for the Colts has been porous in recent years.

1127
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 7: So like you sometimes watch Gardner Minshew or even Matt Ryan,

1128
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 7: you're like, oh wow, you know, it's not too bad,

1129
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 7: and then like the joint practice show up and you're like,

1130
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 7: oh boy, this is not Gus Bradley's defense. So you

1131
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 7: know that, I feel like it's kind of where you

1132
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 7: have it. And there's been years where that's been the case,

1133
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 7: Like oh wow, the Colts whiteouts are making some plays

1134
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 7: and then again they go face another defense in these

1135
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 7: joint practices of the preseason games and you're like wow,

1136
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 7: like it's they're getting like you get open. I remember

1137
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 7: one year that happened with the offensive. Actually it was

1138
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 7: a preseason game. They like they played their sharters. I

1139
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 7: want to say this Buffalo against Buffalo's second unit, and

1140
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 7: like the Buffalo second unit just dominated the Colt starters.

1141
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 7: And that was the you know, one of the few

1142
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 7: years here and the Chris Dalen Arrow where the old

1143
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 7: line really struggled. So yeah, I don't know if it's

1144
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 7: like I mean, sure, when you get into camp and

1145
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 7: especially the first week when you ramp it up physicality wise,

1146
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 7: you know, the old line, the D line. You know,

1147
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 7: maybe it can be a little fool's goal just trying

1148
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 7: to evaluate those position groups. But yeah, I'd say it

1149
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 7: mostly depends on like, wait, are you really good there?

1150
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 7: Or are you take good there just because you're actually

1151
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 7: really bad?

1152
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 2: Whatever happen?

1153
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: And how do you know that? You know when you're

1154
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: watching it? How do you know when you watch one

1155
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: unit that is prolific, how do you determine whether it's

1156
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: because that unit is prolific or because the other side

1157
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: of it is so inept.

1158
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's one of the difficult things of camp.

1159
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 7: You know, there's a little bit of past precedent that

1160
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 7: I think it's fair to use, especially if the personnel

1161
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 7: hasn't changed too much. Like let's take month or two.

1162
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 7: I guess Wednesday. To your point, all the day is

1163
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 7: run together. The first eight camp, the cult passing offense

1164
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 7: was awful. Now, if Jay Querry was covering the day

1165
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 7: one of training camp in two thousand and seven and

1166
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 7: the cults passing offense was awful, you'd probably walk off

1167
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 7: the practice field that Rose Holman or Anderson or wherever

1168
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 7: and say, well, yeah, they might have partied too hard

1169
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 7: in the offseason. That might just be some day one

1170
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 7: rust right, because there's past president that they're great. Well,

1171
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 7: when day one is awful for the twenty twenty five Golds,

1172
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 7: you walk off the practice field saying, man, that looks

1173
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 7: like the worst passing offense the entire the worst passing

1174
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 7: offense in the entire NFL. So I just it's not

1175
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 7: perfect by any means, trust me, But.

1176
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll hang on for Kevin just a second. Put

1177
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 1: him on hold, Eddie, We'll check back on the connection.

1178
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: Because one of the things that one of the final

1179
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: things I wanted to touch on with Kevin was this

1180
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: and that is what player that we are used to

1181
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: knowing of, or what player that we are used to seeing,

1182
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: or what player that we thought was an automatic for

1183
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: the Colts, Kevin, what player on this roster is a

1184
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: little bit like your cell phone connection and the fact

1185
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: that it feels like it's pretty good and then all

1186
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're like, whoa wait a minute, like

1187
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: it's a little bit shaky there, and that surprises me.

1188
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: Is there anybody who has gotten onto a rougher start

1189
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: to this camp than you expected?

1190
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think the first three days has been

1191
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 7: good for Adie Mitchell. I don't know what you well

1192
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 7: you think of them. I guess you know, that's still

1193
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 7: left for others to you know, kind of infer you know,

1194
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 7: certainly they're still really high on him. Last year he

1195
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 7: proved to be super unreliable on a variety of levels

1196
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 7: whenever the ball was thrown his way, and in some way,

1197
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 7: shape or form, he's had I probably talk it up

1198
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 7: to at least three inner drops or fumbles when the

1199
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 7: ball has hit his hands so far the first three days,

1200
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 7: and it's not like he's been targeted a ton like

1201
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 7: kind of Warren for example, has been targeted, especially these

1202
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 7: last two days, quite a bit, and he's been pretty reliable.

1203
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 7: So yeah, the unreliability of Ady Mitchell, I don't think

1204
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 7: it's gone anywhere. Three days into Camp Kicker. We had

1205
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 7: a Kicker duo today. Both of them look shaky.

1206
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if.

1207
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 7: People feel super good about that position. The whole cutting

1208
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 7: of Matt Gay was just kind of odd to me.

1209
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 7: It was like, I get that he has struggled from

1210
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 7: fifty and longer, but like the dude's inside of fifty,

1211
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 7: I know that's not you know the money you're paying

1212
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 7: him for. But I probably would have liked to have

1213
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 7: seen him compete with Spencer Trader than some undrafted dude.

1214
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 7: But nonetheless, the kicker competition, uh, Trader I think was

1215
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 7: four or six today and the other dude, Maddox was

1216
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 7: three or five.

1217
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: Listen, all I know is this, You do not want

1218
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: your NFL franchise to be one that its biggest free

1219
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: agent signing of the last three years was a kicker.

1220
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 7: Right well, yeah, especially when the kicker doesn't work out either.

1221
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 7: So yeah, no, that's that's Banner and Lucas o for that.

1222
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: All right.

1223
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen is probably right now driving somewhere back from

1224
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: Grand Park in Westfield and doing so going through a

1225
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: tunnel because the entire area is under construction, and that's.

1226
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: Why cell phone spoted. Kevin.

1227
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Have a good weekend, all right. Yep, thank

1228
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: you Kevin Bowen joining us on the program. Interesting stuff there,

1229
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: And I agree with the part about you know you

1230
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: don't know.

1231
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: I just keep going back to this point.

1232
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: Yes, you don't know whether if something is really humming

1233
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: along in camp, if that's because that's a unit that's outstanding,

1234
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: or because the unit they're going against is really struggling.

1235
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: You know, those are two things that are you kind

1236
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: of never know, and sometimes maybe you don't know until

1237
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: the regular season begins. You know, I'm foolish enough. There

1238
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: have been times where I've I remember covering, you know,

1239
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: some camps and seeing a player and hearing coaches talk

1240
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: them up, and I started drinking the kool Aid. Oh yeah,

1241
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: I started drinking the kol Aid, right, And I'm like,

1242
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: and by the way, is there any listen the phrase

1243
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: drinking the kool aid? We all know the origin of

1244
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: that phrase. To me, yes, but you know it wasn't

1245
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: actually kool aid. The marketing folk in the late seventies

1246
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: of kool Aid had to have been beside themselves over

1247
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: the fact that they're like, why does no one know

1248
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: that this actually was I believe it was called I'm

1249
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: not even gonna say the name of the product in

1250
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: case I said incorrectly. Well, I mean we just said

1251
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: drink the kool Aid. I think it was called fl

1252
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: or Flavor, right, something like that that was used in Jonestown,

1253
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: and everybody just assumes it's kool aid. So now like

1254
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: to say that you are blindly drinking like propaganda is

1255
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: you're drinking the kool aid. That seemed like a marketing

1256
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: mishap for the kool aid folk to not get in

1257
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: front of that when that all happened. But I digress.

1258
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: There have been players that you hear all this chatter about,

1259
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: and when you hear, let me give you a tip,

1260
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: a piece of friendly advice. If there's a player that

1261
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: you're not overly familiar with in the NFL, and you

1262
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: hear coaches all of a sudden, out of nowhere, start

1263
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: talking that guy up. But he's just really flying and

1264
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: there are buzzwords that are used here, ready to step up,

1265
00:59:54,800 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: flying around, making plays done, some really good things, has

1266
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: a good burst. When you start hearing those things out

1267
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: of nowhere unsolicited from a coach, oftentimes, what that means

1268
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: is you are listening to a coach who is talking

1269
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: up a guy that is totally underperforming, but he's trying

1270
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: to get that guy some juice. He's trying to get

1271
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: that guy to buy in. He's hoping that guy hears

1272
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: that he's talking about how much he believes in him.

1273
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: So if they know that a particular player at a

1274
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: particular position is really important to them and they need

1275
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: that player to rise to the occasion. There are two

1276
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: ways to motivate. One of them clearly, and with some

1277
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: players this is what you would do. Some of them.

1278
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 1: The way that you motivate is to say, look, this guy,

1279
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: he better get it in gear, this guy better get

1280
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: it going, this guy's in serious trouble. We need somebody

1281
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: to play this position, and nobody's jumped up and grabbed

1282
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: that spot. That motivates when you do it that way.

1283
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: And another way to motivate them is to and coaches.

1284
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: You know, coaches have different ways in which they know

1285
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: and that's what makes a great coach a great coach.

1286
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: A great coach knows that on a fifty three man

1287
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: roster motivation, what's good for the goose is not always

1288
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: good for the gander. And I think good leaders know

1289
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: this in any walk of life, any business that you're in,

1290
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: that getting through to Jim and accounting may be a

1291
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: completely different technique that Jim responds to than what Marrion

1292
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: marketing responds to. And knowing the variation by which you've

1293
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: got to kind of prod people to get the best

1294
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: out of them is part of good leadership. And sometimes

1295
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: when you hear coaches saying, you know, I'll be honest,

1296
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: you guys were you know, Reynolds has shown a lot

1297
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: of pop here. I mean, he's flying around making plays.

1298
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: And that's a guy that the we like what we

1299
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: see in him, we do, and he just has an

1300
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: energy about him that when he steps out on that field,

1301
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: he's got the ability. He puts himself in the right spots.

1302
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: He's flying around, he's prepared, he's got a big opportunity.

1303
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: It's a big opportunity for him, and we're confident that

1304
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: he's going to rise to that opportunity because he knows

1305
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: what's there for him. You can see that and say, okay,

1306
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: well this guy's playing well. Or oftentimes if it's like,

1307
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: wait a minute, we didn't ask about that guy, and

1308
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: nobody's noticed that guy, Why all of a sudden are

1309
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: they talking up that guy? It is, in fact, sometimes

1310
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 1: as a last dish push to get that guy going,

1311
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: And that sometimes is indicator to you that what you're

1312
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: hearing is a player that is not performing well, that

1313
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: is in some jeopardy of losing his spot because he

1314
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,439
Speaker 1: has not reached out and grabbed it. And I think

1315
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: last year and I know he was a rookie, but

1316
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: there is a part of me. Last year, there is

1317
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: nobody that the Colts talked up more in camp than

1318
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: Adie Mitchell. We heard a lot about eighty Mitch love,

1319
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: the wiggle of Adie Mitchell, love the burst of Adie Mitchell,

1320
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: love the behind the ball aspect of Adie Mitchell. And

1321
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: if Kevin's right and he and a. You notice you

1322
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: don't hear as much about Adie Mitchell this year, you know,

1323
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 1: is that, Hey, look we're gonna see what this guy

1324
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 1: can do. And it's a big year for him. I'm

1325
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: saying that, not them. It's a big year for him

1326
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get going. If ad Mitchell makes this

1327
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: team and doesn't get going by week, by the time

1328
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: the leaves are falling, then you start to really look

1329
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: at it and wonder.

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 3: By the time we get your mom's voicemail, that's exactly right, Eddie,

1331
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: thank you.

1332
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: You know my mom will tell you that when the

1333
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: leaves fall and it's raining outside, those wet leaves are

1334
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: a toxic mix, right, The moisture in the leaves very dangerous.

1335
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: You have to always make sure that you're looking and

1336
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: they're they're they're wonderful to look at but the wet

1337
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: leaves are dangerous.

1338
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: Eddie, thank you.

1339
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: That is that's an annual event, is it not? It

1340
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: is my mom's voice. Hi, jac it's mom every year

1341
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: every year. By the way, coming up two o'clock, John

1342
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: Orvitz going to join us. He's got a book coming

1343
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: out about racing in ninety nine. You hear that and

1344
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: you think, what in the world are you talking about?

1345
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: But we will explain when Orviitz joins us. Because it

1346
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: is also Brickyard Week activity Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Yesterday it

1347
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: was the USAT guys, you heard us mentioning it. It

1348
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: is the All State four hundred coming up on Sunday

1349
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: on this feel good good for the hard Friday, which

1350
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 1: we will have a conversation with you about an hour

1351
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: from now about something when it comes to the heart

1352
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: that you probably were unaware of but need to be

1353
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: aware of.

1354
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: Eddie.

1355
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: You're wearing your reds shirt. We need to check in

1356
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: on our baseball bet. And there is something that happened

1357
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: last night to me where I looked up and I

1358
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: realized that the baseball bet might be slivering through my fingertips.

1359
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm ready to reach out

1360
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: and grab something with it and find the joy in it,

1361
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: and we'll talk a little baseball and I'll tell you

1362
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: what that is next.

1363
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 6: Hi, Jake, this is Mom calling. I was listening to

1364
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 6: the weather tonight and there's going to be a lot

1365
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 6: of wind and a lot of rain in the next

1366
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 6: couple of days. So we're at that time of year

1367
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 6: where the wet leaves are a real hazard. So I

1368
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 6: want your listeners to know that they need to be

1369
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 6: careful and watch for the wet leaves when they are

1370
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 6: driving and when they are walking. The leaves in the rain.

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01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 6: They're just a toxic mix and we have to be

1372
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 6: on top of it. So have a good day.

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01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: Bite especially walking, Eddie. Got to be careful when you're

1374
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: walking on the wet leaves, right, you know.

1375
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: I've got three of those that by the way, that

1376
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: just so people know that voicemail is from like October,

1377
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: but my mom does it each and every year.

1378
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: Although it is raining out right now, right.

1379
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,959
Speaker 3: I think it is. I've got like three of those

1380
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 3: messages in my archives here.

1381
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: Do you really?

1382
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been doing the show together that long. My

1383
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: mom's been doing that annually. That's that's my mom's thing. Man,

1384
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: that's why my mom's you know, people like my mom

1385
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: more than like me, that's for sure.

1386
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: Well goes without saying.

1387
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: So last night, speaking of my mom, My mom and

1388
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: I actually went out to dinner last night and you go,

1389
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: what's that?

1390
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 3: Where'd you go? Went to the ale emporium?

1391
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

1392
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: Did you get the Hermanoky Wings? Shannon met us. No,

1393
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: my mom got They both got a buffalo chicken wrap.

1394
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 3: That's what you got it and that's what they get.

1395
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 2: I got. I got a salad.

1396
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 3: Oh, I do like the Hermanoky wings though, fabulous. Mom

1397
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 3: and Shannon get it right. Well, what's that? Do your

1398
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 3: mom and Channing get along?

1399
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 2: Well?

1400
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, now what about your mom and Emily long

1401
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 3: Neck Dad?

1402
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: Mom likes Emily as well. Yes, Emily's been to the

1403
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving My mom likes her. So I'm sitting there and yesterday,

1404
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday before I went to dinner

1405
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: with my mom. Obviously I popped in the studio. I

1406
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: had to print something out after the show. This may

1407
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: have been two days ago. And right when I walked in,

1408
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: J ANDV was talking about players historically that after the

1409
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: All Star break going a total swoon, like a player

1410
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: that is an All Star and then that was the

1411
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: peak of the year, and that was the curse and

1412
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: everything just fell apart after that. And as I walked in,

1413
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: I was across the hall recording some things. So as

1414
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: I walked in, I wasn't totally hip to what he

1415
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: was talking about and didn't realize when he asked me

1416
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: the question. And I think I brought up like Attlee

1417
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: Hammocker serving up Bo Jackson's home run, and then that

1418
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: kind of was the pinnacle of his I shouldn't tay career.

1419
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: He had some World Series moments, but anyway, then I

1420
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: caught on to the fact that what JV was talking

1421
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: about was the Detroit Tigers, who at one time were

1422
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: the best team in baseball man, and got out to

1423
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: an unbelievable start, and it looked like it was going

1424
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: to be the Summer of eighty four all over again

1425
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: up in Detroit. I've got a couple of buddies already

1426
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: that have gone up there to see them play. And

1427
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of obviously a historic team, but

1428
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: not one that you hear a lot about or think

1429
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: of or whatever else. But man, they are, I mean,

1430
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: and they're still in first by a wide margin. I mean,

1431
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: they got an eight game lead, but what are they

1432
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: like one to nine in their last ten, They've lost

1433
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: four in a row.

1434
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're struggling to put runs up on the board.

1435
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 3: Which is my biggest concern about them entering the season, Jake,

1436
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 3: is that they had a really good year last year.

1437
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 3: They made it to the postseason, made it to the

1438
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 3: American League Championships Series, if I'm not mistaken. But the

1439
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 3: problem that I had with them is that they were

1440
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 3: so dependent on their starters, and their starters going deep

1441
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: into games and lights out pitching. I didn't know if

1442
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 3: they had the offense to really play and make a

1443
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: deep postseason run. And that was my big issue with

1444
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 3: them going into this year again because they didn't do

1445
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 3: anything different. And Raley Green's having a really good year

1446
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 3: for him, and that's about it really in terms of

1447
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 3: offensive numbers.

1448
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I would like to know. And this is what

1449
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: I was thinking of is I was at dinner last

1450
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: night and watching it and looking up with the Detroit

1451
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: Tigers and was sitting there with my mom and Shannon,

1452
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: and I looked up and it hit me, and I

1453
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 1: want you to tell me Eddie Garrison as a matter

1454
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: of fact, you folks can let me know.

1455
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: I will allow.

1456
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw this to the audience, a little

1457
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: people's court to the audience here to be. I'm allowing

1458
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: myself to be judged. Okay, thank you, Da. So I

1459
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: grew up a Cincinnati Reds fan, going to King's Island

1460
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: over there by the log Flume. They had that little

1461
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:18,759
Speaker 1: Reds merchandise stand, and I always wanted a Joe Morgan jersey,

1462
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: the white jerseys with the little V neck and the

1463
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: sleeves on them, I mean, I love them. And I

1464
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: and my sister loved Johnny Bench because my sister was

1465
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: a catcher playing softball growing up. And obviously you had

1466
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: Rose and Griffy, you know, the big Red Machine. And

1467
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: I saw the twilight of the Big Red Machine. But

1468
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: like most kids growing up in Central Indiana even to

1469
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: this day, my first experience with Major League Baseball was

1470
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: going to Riverfront Stadium and seeing the Reds. And even

1471
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: though I was seeing more Gary Retis, Eddie Millner, Paul Householder,

1472
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: I saw the twilight of the Big Red Machine and

1473
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: certainly the reference to the Big Red Machine. So that

1474
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: was my team. And in ninety when I was a

1475
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: senior in high school. They one wire to wire. You

1476
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: know that that group awesome And I still am a

1477
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: Reds fan. When Jay Bruce hit the home run they

1478
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 1: win there, I loved it twenty twelve. Went to several

1479
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: games that year, I mean, and then Marty shaved his head, yes,

1480
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: I mean all in right, and then the San Francisco Nightmare.

1481
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: So having said that, in the American League, the Blue

1482
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: Jays were always my American League team. Always liked the

1483
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: Blue Jays. I've given the reasoning before. You know, I

1484
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: got baseball cards signed by a bunch of Blue Jays

1485
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. I had family friends that

1486
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 1: lived in Toronto, and I loved those baby blue powder

1487
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 1: blue Blue Jay uniforms of the mid eighties.

1488
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 3: Has that changed now?

1489
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: A cute fella Jesse Barfield Lloyd most people's So here's

1490
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: my question. So then the Blue Jays got away kind

1491
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: of from you know, the Jesse Barfield Lloyd mostby George

1492
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: Bell that era and they I was a big fan

1493
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: when they won the World Series with Joe Carter, but

1494
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: then baseball in general just kind of slipped from my

1495
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: main conscious It was not a sport that was one

1496
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,799
Speaker 1: I still followed it obviously, but I wasn't as dialed

1497
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: into it. I don't think the American culture is just

1498
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: dialed into it over the course of the regular season

1499
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: like I was back then. And then, yes, to your point, Eddie,

1500
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: I just realized that the best logo is the cute

1501
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: Fella of the Orioles.

1502
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 3: Hey wrote for me.

1503
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: That's what he's saying on the hat.

1504
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 3: Although it's not going so.

1505
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: Well, It's okay, listen, cute fella is resilient and he's

1506
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: got a nice nest there in that stadium in Baltimore. Okay,

1507
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: but Camden Yards, and when Indy car had their race

1508
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: there and I and the the official Orioles merchandise staff

1509
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: made me a cute Fella shirt that said cute Fella,

1510
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: and I thought I was close to getting cute Fella

1511
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: adopted by Baltimore as the name of the mascot because

1512
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: they just call it the Oriole Bird, which is lame.

1513
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: But you know, only so many trademarks within this noggin, right, Yeah.

1514
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: And so.

1515
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: My point is this, I've always kind of liked the

1516
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: athletics because I liked Ricky Henderson when I was a kid,

1517
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: and I just liked the color scheme, and I went

1518
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: out to a game at Oakland Coliseum by myself and

1519
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: during IndyCar one year, and then I went with Henry

1520
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: Woodford and had a good time out there. And so

1521
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: I've always kind of liked the A's. I've always kind

1522
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 1: of liked the Orioles. Lately, as you know, I have

1523
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: a new tradition where we go once a year to

1524
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 1: a daytime game to Chicago to see the White Sox

1525
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: and they are awful, and that's part of the charm

1526
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: of it is we're there and we're watching this team

1527
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: and there aren't many people there and whatever else. So

1528
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at is, I would like to know

1529
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: in my people's court question here to the masses, is

1530
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: it terrible that I have like five or six teams

1531
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: that I root for in baseball in today's era, and

1532
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have a quote unquote favorite team. I'm

1533
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: the first two bit. If the Reds got super hot

1534
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: and went to I mean, then that nostalgia grasps me

1535
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: and I'm all back in. But I don't sit and

1536
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: watch every Reds game, but I do check the scores

1537
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: with regularity and the standings and where they are of

1538
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: the Athletics, the Orioles, the White Sox, and the Blue Jays,

1539
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: the Mets as well, oddly.

1540
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 3: Enough, are metropolitans. Yes, oddly enough. So I'm the first

1541
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 3: to admit that I'm a little bit of a front

1542
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 3: runner on whichever of those teams is doing best kind

1543
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 3: of draws me in for that summer. You mean a bandwagoner.

1544
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 1: A bandwagoner, though, I think is more so whatever team

1545
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: that year is the best, that's who they're a fan of.

1546
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: And then the next you know, like right now, So

1547
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: a bandwagoner would have been a Tigers fan two months ago,

1548
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden they're all in on

1549
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays or Houston or you know, the Dodgers.

1550
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: But for me, it's more just based on like my

1551
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: experiences within those teams. But there are five or six

1552
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: that I kind of kind of equally across the board.

1553
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: Does this make me the world's worst baseball fan or

1554
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 1: the most realistic Reds fan? Which is it?

1555
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 2: Right?

1556
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 3: It's one of those two?

1557
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: Is it?

1558
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 7: Not?

1559
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 3: Nice punch line there?

1560
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: It's true, right, it's one of those two. So I'm

1561
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: kind of I mean, I have it. I have a

1562
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: Blue Jays hat that I've had for thirty years.

1563
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 2: It's got. I mean, the the stitching is tattern, all

1564
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 2: of it.

1565
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: Right, I have it, so I can prove that I

1566
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: have a long standing fandom. I have a White Sox

1567
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: bat from that day of nineteen seventy nine. But I'm

1568
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: a Reds guide through and through. But they're just kind

1569
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: of in, you know, right there. But in terms of

1570
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: our beer bet, Eddie, you took the two teams the

1571
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 1: best combined record of the two teams that you selected,

1572
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: the total number of wins. You took the Blue Jays,

1573
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 1: who are sitting at sixty one wins and the Marlins

1574
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: at forty eight, so you have a total of one

1575
01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: hundred and nine.

1576
01:14:58,880 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: Right.

1577
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 3: It helps when you've got best team in the league.

1578
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 1: Listener, Chad, Well, there are like three of them that

1579
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: are hanging around for that best record, right. Oh yeah,

1580
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: Actually the best team in the league right now is Milwaukee,

1581
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: right yeah a percentage. Yeah, So Chad went with the Reds.

1582
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: Not bad fifty three wins, but he partnered them, if

1583
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, with the Rockies terrible decision twenty six.

1584
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: So he's got seventy nine. He's thirty games behind you. Now, I,

1585
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 1: on the other hand, went with my heart and not

1586
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: my head. I went with the Athletics at forty three,

1587
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: White Sox at thirty seven. I'm sitting at eighty, Eddie.

1588
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: It'll be surf side that I'll be hooking you up with.

1589
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: But I've already given you that once before. Now see,

1590
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: I love this, Hey, Jake, there's nothing wrong with rooting

1591
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 1: for multiple teams in baseball, considering especially that we do

1592
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,919
Speaker 1: not have our own franchise here in town. I agree,

1593
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: But then that statement is kind of disqualified by the

1594
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: person's exit of the text. Go Yankees, Come on, you're

1595
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: a Yankees fan.

1596
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,799
Speaker 3: You're a Bandwagon fan, right, Yankees just traded for Colorado

1597
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 3: Rocky's third baseman, Ryan McMahon. By the way, so not

1598
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 3: good for Chad, but good true whomever texted you.

1599
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: By the way, this just tend you happen to have

1600
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 1: the breaking newshatter. I made you League Baseball yesterday announcing

1601
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: it's Luckiest Man Award. It goes to Ry McMahon, who

1602
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: is now a member of the New York Yankees after playing.

1603
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 3: For the Colorado Rockies. We'll play.

1604
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 1: He is celebrating like there's no tomorrow. The greatest export

1605
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: from west of the Mississippi since Coor's Light, which you

1606
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: couldn't get unless it was at a refrigerated truck. As

1607
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: Rumor had it in the mid eighties.

1608
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 3: It ranning outside, Jake, I saw you leave the studio. Yes,

1609
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 3: so that means it's gonna be muggy.

1610
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing.

1611
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: When it's hot like this, and it was hot, I

1612
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: mean earlier today when I was out at the colts

1613
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: camp it was. And when it's hot like that, you

1614
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: walk out and it's but then it rains like this,

1615
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: and after it gets done raining and the temperature doesn't

1616
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 1: go down, and now all of a sudden, the entire

1617
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: world feels like the steam coming off of asphalt. Then

1618
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: it turns into this. Good that's what it's going to

1619
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: be like outside in about twenty minutes. No boeno, no thanks.

1620
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 3: I feel bad for the people at IMS that I'd

1621
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 3: have to sit through this, you know, and the drivers.

1622
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 2: Who man it is I mean, it is hot. Yeah,

1623
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 2: it's rough.

1624
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: So certainly if you're out there or on your way out,

1625
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, be careful. And you know, it does sound

1626
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: like a cliche to be sure to hydrate, but you do.

1627
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: You definitely want to do that.

1628
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 3: IndyCar races this weekend too, right.

1629
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 1: Jake Moderrey Laguna Seka, that is the call that I

1630
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: will be on Indy next and IndyCar both.

1631
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 3: So we still in the mindset that Polo is without

1632
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 3: question going to win the series, or is Potos starting

1633
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 3: to you know, raise eyebrows and like, eh, maybe.

1634
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: Polo is at the point now. I remember asking Alex

1635
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: Polo a couple of races ago. I'm trying to think

1636
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 1: of where we were. It might have been at Gateway

1637
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: whether or not he starts to consider, you know, like

1638
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: with qualifying, if he didn't have a good qualifying run,

1639
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: what does he do throughout the course of a race,

1640
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 1: and does he consider the championship in mind, whether or

1641
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: not to be aggressive or not. And at that time

1642
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: he was like, no, I'm still under the mindset that

1643
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: I'm going for every win. I think Polo has put

1644
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 1: himself in position now where his point advantage is comfortable

1645
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: enough of the over PoTA award that Polo knows that

1646
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: so long as Polo does not have a disastrous weekend,

1647
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 1: that the margin is going to be too much. So

1648
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: I think Polo goes into the weekends, Eddie thinking to himself,

1649
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: I just got you know, I've just got to go

1650
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: out and fit bring the car home safely, like say,

1651
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: a top six each and every race, and then it's

1652
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: going to be difficult for anybody to catch me.

1653
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 3: Ninety nine point lead over PoTA right now, and Kyle

1654
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 3: Kirkwood is how far back? One seventy three Dixon won

1655
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 3: seventy four.

1656
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's you know, Kirkwood has really faded here

1657
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: in the last couple of races. Because he was our

1658
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 1: buddy Chiefs fan Steve Kansas City Steve. He asked me

1659
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,600
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, he said, you know

1660
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: what I want to start doing, IndyCar. I want to

1661
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: become a fan. And I said, okay. And so I

1662
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: said to him, because I know he's a football fan,

1663
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: I made a list of quarterbacks in the NFL and

1664
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: what quarterback I thought each driver was. Oh really so

1665
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: that it gave Steve a good idea of who he

1666
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: was rooting for.

1667
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 3: Did you give Polo as Patrick Mahomes?

1668
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: And so I think I did put Polo as Mahomes? Yes,

1669
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: you know Dixon. I can't remember exactly who I put

1670
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: for each one of them. I would not put anybody

1671
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: as Aaron Rodgers, because I think Aaron Rodgers at this

1672
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: point is washed. Can't remember who I put down for Dixon,

1673
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: but I did like six or seven of them, and

1674
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: he picked Kirkle. I don't remember which quarterback I said

1675
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 1: for Kirkwood, but he picked Kyle Kirkwood. And that's this guy,

1676
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: and he's watched every race and was super excited until

1677
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Kirkwood's kind of been brought

1678
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: back down to life a little bit.

1679
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield.

1680
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, I would say, is more like Renus VK.

1681
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: Really where Renus VK. Baker Mayfield started out, you know,

1682
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: with a lot of hype and expectation, as did Renis

1683
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: VK as a young driver with a very good seat,

1684
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 1: and then kind of hit a point where people were like, yeah,

1685
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 1: is there need to be a change. Here goes to

1686
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: a new team and has found new life with it

1687
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: and is showing like, well wait a minute, there was

1688
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: something still there. Yeah, And that's what VK has been

1689
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: able to do with Dale Coyn. Renius VK is a

1690
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: really good driver.

1691
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought him up because there's a lot

1692
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 3: of you know, speculation about the future of will Power

1693
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 3: with Team Penske. Is that a realistic option?

1694
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: I think when that happens at this point and less

1695
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 1: he turns it down, David Malucas will get that ride.

1696
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: So what happened with Penske is Team Penske began a

1697
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: technical alliance with aj Foyt Racing, and so therefore when

1698
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: David Malucas came over to aj Foyt, the thought process

1699
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: by just about everybody was that that was essentially a

1700
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 1: Penske in waiting contract and that Melucas then will get

1701
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: will Power's ride when will Power at the end of

1702
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: the year moves on from Team Penske, that Melucas would

1703
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: be that guy if it was not for some reason

1704
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 1: that fell through. I think, VK that's a realistic discussion

1705
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: or possibility to be had, but I think it's going

1706
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: to be Malucas now. The other one is whenever Dixon

1707
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: decides to retire, who gets that number nine ride, because

1708
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: that's a preeminent ride in teams with Alex Polow and

1709
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: I wonder if that wouldn't end up being Joseph Newark

1710
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: really a couple of years down the road, I mean

1711
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: there's no reason to believe that that's imminent right now.

1712
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: But you wonder when New Garden's contract's up, no Tim

1713
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: Cindric there, does he look to go elsewhere as well?

1714
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: It's been a tough year for him, really tough year.

1715
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes not even necessarily entirely his fault last race had nothing.

1716
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 1: No one's fault on Penske or New Garden either one.

1717
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: Just a just a tough break, plain and simple. It's

1718
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: a friday, good for the hard Friday. We'll do that

1719
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 1: coming up in about thirty five minutes. We'll also talk

1720
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: a little racing with John Rovitz in about fifteen. But

1721
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: when we come back, what's happening at Colts Camp today?

1722
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: What jumped out? And who is looking good? And who

1723
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 1: is looking like still they need they're hitting the snooze

1724
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: button on the alarm for training camp. We will answer

1725
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:40,759
Speaker 1: those questions.

1726
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 2: Next.

1727
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: Things are on hold at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway right

1728
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 1: now due to lightning in the area. Obviously, if you

1729
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: were in the Indianapolis area you know that it is.

1730
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like downpouring at least it wasn't

1731
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: last I checked. But it's there's moisture on the racetrack.

1732
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't need a raincoat. One of my favorite Tom

1733
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 1: Carnegie moments Tom Kernegiy, he was doing practice one day

1734
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: and there was just like very light precipitation and he

1735
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: was on the fruit stand, caution on the race track,

1736
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: moisture on the race course, slight pause. I don't need

1737
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: a expletive raincoat all over the pa. Tom Carnegie legend

1738
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway colts Camp week number one. Technically,

1739
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: I guess you wouldn't say week number one because they

1740
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: didn't start on Monday. But another practice is in the books,

1741
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: and yes it has been very very warm, But I

1742
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: don't think that there's anything necessarily per se that jumps

1743
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: out at you. This is the Anthony Richardson saga, situation, storyline, etc.

1744
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 2: To me, is fastating.

1745
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 1: And the reason why is because and I go back

1746
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: to I talk about precedent a lot right. And by

1747
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: the way, I'm now told Indianapolis Motor Speedway, done for

1748
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: the day. Done for the day at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

1749
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: The the thing about Richardson, he's kind of like, and

1750
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: I know I'm going on the way back here, but

1751
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: it is a lot like Jonathan Bender when he was

1752
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 1: a pacer. Now benders more was injury. But when Jonathan Bender,

1753
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: and you've heard, I mean, we talked to Isaiah Thomas

1754
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: about it, We've talked to Austin Kroscher about it. Bender

1755
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: would do things in practice that you would say to yourself,

1756
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: I've never seen a seven foot one guy do this.

1757
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: This was pre Durant taking the ball on the wing,

1758
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: making one dribble and then taking one step and dunking,

1759
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: stepping back and hitting a pull up three, driving on

1760
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: the baseline and doing a doctor J level behind the

1761
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: back the backboard arm swoop, but then finishing with a dunk.

1762
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: Those were things that when you saw them, the inability

1763
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: to stay on the court, the inability to have consistency

1764
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: when he did play, you kept pushing through to it

1765
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 1: because you knew that that was there somewhere. And it's

1766
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 1: not unlike I've always said, we all have this everyone

1767
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: male or female. You have that one person that was

1768
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: so out of your league but gave you time of

1769
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: day that every fifth time you made plans with them,

1770
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: they actually followed through, and every eight times you called

1771
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: them on the phone, they actually answered. But you totally

1772
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: sacrificed them, threw away your dignity in pursuit of it,

1773
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: because it was so out of your league and it

1774
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: was so awesome when you were around them that you

1775
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: kept going back to the well. Everybody's had that, everybody, right,

1776
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: You just hope the case of myself, that that's actually

1777
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 1: the one you end up landing. But in a way

1778
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: with Richardson, I think the big time play, the home

1779
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 1: run play, the five hundred and sixty five foot shot

1780
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: to right field, that's what captivates you. And that's why

1781
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: the Colts keep going back to this well, even though

1782
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: he has not been able to stay healthy, and when

1783
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,480
Speaker 1: he has been healthy, he's not been able to be consistent.

1784
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: And I saw it again today. But what I saw

1785
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: today when I was out there was the Colts saying,

1786
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: you know what. I know that this is an open

1787
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 1: competition between Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson, but they're going

1788
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: to continue to work with Richardson because you think about

1789
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 1: the falling off the back foot, sixty five foot pass

1790
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: in the air, or the tuck of the football that

1791
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,839
Speaker 1: drive against the Jets, where he's making every right decision

1792
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 1: and instinct and once he gets rolling he turns a

1793
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 1: three yard play into a twelve yard play like every

1794
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: single time, okay, And so that that glimpse, you keep

1795
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: going back to it hoping it happens. And that's why

1796
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is right now in a quarterback battle and

1797
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: a situation where, given the body of work, if Anthony

1798
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: Richardson in his career for the last two years had

1799
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 1: come without that one play against I think it was

1800
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 1: Houston where he goes sixty five yards without that one

1801
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: drive against the Jets, and if he had been a

1802
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: third round draft pick or a free agent acquisition, if

1803
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: he's Josh Freeman, then there's no way that he gets

1804
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 1: this level of time. And Look, but I think they're

1805
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 1: trying to do everything they can to make it work

1806
01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: with Richardson for all of the reasons I just explained

1807
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: and the reason why I think they're trying to make

1808
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: it work, and the reason why I still truly believe

1809
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: even though I think Daniel Jones is going to be

1810
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: the Day one starter, I truly believe it's going to

1811
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: be not because Daniel Jones won the job, but because

1812
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson lost it. Because I think they are going

1813
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is their default. I think they want Anthony

1814
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: Richardson to win that job. I think they need Anthony

1815
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 1: Richardson to win that job. But if he doesn't, then

1816
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 1: instead of dilly dallying around with it, they're eventually going

1817
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: to say, Okay. The last thing that Anthony Richardson has

1818
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: yet to do for us to motivate him is have

1819
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: a legitimate guy long term that could take his position

1820
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: and take the keys from him. Because when he got here,

1821
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: right when he came out of the NFL womb, he

1822
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: was handed the keys to the kingdom, and then we

1823
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: found out that he didn't fully understand its back in

1824
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. So all of a sudden, one day we

1825
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: get this word that, like, guess what he's he is

1826
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: going to sit on the sidelines and others are going

1827
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: to play before him. Okay, and Joe Flacco is going

1828
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: to come in, and Joe Flacco is going to be

1829
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: the guy. But Anthony Richardson's looking at it and he's

1830
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: going Joe Flacco is two years away from replacing Joe

1831
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:32,839
Speaker 1: Namath on insurance commercials during episodes of The Golden Girls,

1832
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 1: that guy ain't taking my job long term. And other

1833
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: players that were brought in. He's going, that's not a threat.

1834
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 1: And I don't think Richardson's a bad, malicious guy like that,

1835
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 1: but they didn't truly threaten his job. Now you have

1836
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 1: a guy with a one year deal in Daniel Jones

1837
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 1: that Anthony Richardson has to look at and say, wha

1838
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: wait a minute, and if that doesn't wake him up,

1839
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: then you know that you have tried everything. But what

1840
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 1: I I saw today when I got out there was

1841
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson doing drills, throwing over the middle to Tyler

1842
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 1: Warren two steps back, boom, quick release across the middle,

1843
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 1: the layups, And what did every coach tell you when

1844
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: you played basketball and you weren't hitting your shots, when

1845
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: you were in the driveway playing twenty one with your

1846
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: buddies are around the world and nothing was going down?

1847
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 1: What did you do in that moment you got yourself

1848
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: to the free throw line, you're playing horse with somebody.

1849
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: You try first off to land a couple of Steph

1850
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 1: Curry shots to get yourself out to an early lead,

1851
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 1: and nothing's fallen. Eventually you say, you know what, I'm

1852
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:45,600
Speaker 1: just gonna go to the free throw line and just

1853
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: hit a couple of free throws and get in rhythm.

1854
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: Steph Curry has a game, Tyrese Haliburton has a game

1855
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 1: where he's not shooting the ball. Well, what's the thing?

1856
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 1: You never want for that player to get to the

1857
01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 1: free throw line to get in rhythm, because then everything

1858
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: opens up. And the Colts right now are putting Anthony

1859
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: Richardson on the free throw line. They are saying, we

1860
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: know you can hit the home run, we know you

1861
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: can tuck and run, but you have to be able

1862
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: to play mid range game to be a quarterback in

1863
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: the National Football League. And we've tried everything else. We've

1864
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 1: tried to send the message you did the tap out

1865
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:26,759
Speaker 1: and got benched again, You've been injured and lost critical

1866
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: time as a rookie. But now we have a guy that, yes,

1867
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: nobody is thinking that Daniel Jones is going to come

1868
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: in here and automatically be Andrew Luck, but it could

1869
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 1: be Sam Darnold and he could come in here and

1870
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: play well, and then it's like, wha wait a minute.

1871
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 1: Now he is a free agent at the end of

1872
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 1: the year. Do the Colts then say to Anthony Richardson,

1873
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: We've had a great time, we appreciate it.

1874
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 2: We're moving On.

1875
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't think you can rule that out, but I

1876
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: think they want to give because they know ceiling and

1877
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,839
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is higher than the ceiling of Daniel Jones,

1878
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 1: and they're going to give. This is the last push,

1879
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 1: but they're going to give him every opportunity to seize it.

1880
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 1: At the Kevin Bowen joined us earlier. We talked about

1881
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: Tyler Warren getting a lot of reps at the tight

1882
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: end position. Jealannie Woods was on field, not necessarily jumping out.

1883
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: They have been patient with him as well, and we'll

1884
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 1: see whether or not he gets Now, if he is

1885
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: healthy and able to stay healthy, is he going to

1886
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: get the year to show what he can do or

1887
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: is this okay? We waited and we were patient. We

1888
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 1: wanted to see what would happen. And now we have

1889
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: seen enough and unfortunately what we are seeing in that

1890
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:46,440
Speaker 1: enough is not quite enough, and so therefore we're going elsewhere. Defensively,

1891
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting when we talked to cam Bindam,

1892
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: and we talked yesterday about the fact that lou An

1893
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: Arumo it's difficult to know whether or not the Colts

1894
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: are going to be a straight up man defense or

1895
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 1: are they going to be a zone defense. Cam Biden

1896
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: said he kind of prefers the zone. But cam Binden

1897
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: in coming from the defense, he's coming from under Brian

1898
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 1: Flores in Minnesota. They do a disguised defense. They do

1899
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 1: that same kind of defense that it is designed to

1900
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: keep the offense guessing. And I thought it was interesting

1901
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: that he talking about cam by them, he mentioned the

1902
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 1: fact that they are not yet into the scheme. They

1903
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 1: have not even gotten into long division defensively with this defense,

1904
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 1: So it's hard to know. Zion Franklin is out there

1905
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 1: today working out trying to get that ankle going a

1906
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: little bit. He's not gonna go on pup, but it's

1907
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: hard to know. If you look defensively at players for

1908
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 1: the Colts and who is standing out defensively, you can't

1909
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 1: read a lot into that yet because cam Biden told

1910
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 1: us like, look, this isn't really anything in depth of

1911
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 1: what exactly we're going to be. We are still learning

1912
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: addition and subtraction and haven't even gotten into long division,

1913
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,759
Speaker 1: let alone algebra defensively. But we do know that whatever

1914
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 1: defense they end up going up with, and whether they

1915
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 1: go with man or whether they go with zone, what

1916
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 1: we know is that the Colts are going to be

1917
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: a defense that the quarterback of the opposing team when

1918
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: he gets to the line is going to see formation

1919
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 1: that does not, in any way, shape or form represent

1920
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 1: what it is once the ball is snapped. And that's

1921
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: become a more in vogue way of defenses doing things

1922
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But I think it means and necessitates

1923
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 1: for more versatility defensively and guys that are very instinctive

1924
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 1: with their vision of knowing when and where they need

1925
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: to be and by them is an important part of that,

1926
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: and it is a reason why you give a guy

1927
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: a four year, sixty million dollar deal as kind of

1928
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 1: the last line of defense back there, quarterback, but eyes

1929
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: of your defense looking over everything and letting people know

1930
01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 1: where to go. But other than that, there hasn't been

1931
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: a whole lot that has jumped out at camp. We

1932
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 1: don't have major storylines of Jonathan Taylor from a couple

1933
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: of years ago. Sure, yesterday Bernard Ryin that got some

1934
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: attention when Bernard Ryman comes out and says we're not

1935
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 1: on the same page. And I thought the most telling

1936
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 1: thing that he said, and I thought it was a

1937
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 1: masterful and a smart thing that he said. When Bernard

1938
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: Ryman comes out and says, my agent knows the value

1939
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 1: of the position, and I know the value of the position,

1940
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 1: but we don't know if the team knows the value

1941
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,799
Speaker 1: of the position, meaning his position of left tackle.

1942
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 2: That to me.

1943
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Was his way of saying, you know, yeah, like I

1944
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 1: thought it was. I thought it was good gamesmanship for

1945
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: negotiation for Bernard Ryman yesterday smart, It was smart, and

1946
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 1: yeah Alec Pierce today before was a little bore cooy.

1947
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: But Alec Pierce is in a little bit different situation

1948
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have the leverage that Ryman had. Brod

1949
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 1: Ryman's got leverage. He's got leverage. Wide receivers hate to

1950
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,719
Speaker 1: say it, love him. And Alec Pierce is a really

1951
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 1: good player. He's a really good player, but he's also

1952
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: Levi's five oh one. You can go to TJ Max,

1953
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 1: I got them all over the place. Left tackle. You

1954
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: got to go to a specialty store and they're only

1955
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 1: open on Sundays from twelve to four. That's it harder

1956
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 1: to find, not a lot of them. And Ryman knows that,

1957
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 1: and the Colts have to know that. So if I'm Ryman,

1958
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 1: I'm automatically playing the gosh, I'm still waiting to see

1959
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:36,680
Speaker 1: what I'm worth, hoping that the Colts come in and

1960
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: swoop in and make a big offer. Whereas Alec Pierce,

1961
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 1: the Colts know we can keep him guessing a little bit,

1962
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 1: find out where we are, find out how we got

1963
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: what we have left over. And that's no knock on

1964
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:50,880
Speaker 1: Alec Pearce, who I think is a good player, but

1965
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: he also is a more fungible position than is left tackle.

1966
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that is the simple reality of it, that situation.

1967
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 1: But so far it's been a camp where the storyline

1968
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 1: has been the heat.

1969
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 2: That's it. That's not a bad thing.

1970
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 1: And I've made it this far Friday, forty minutes for

1971
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 1: the end of the week before I've gone on any

1972
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 1: sort of rant about how weird it is that they're

1973
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 1: practicing one hour a day and they're only three days

1974
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: into it, and veterans are always already getting rest days.

1975
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 3: I haven't had gone there.

1976
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: It's the lazy narrative, right, I'm a harder working guy

1977
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:30,639
Speaker 1: than that come up with storylines besides the obvious, which

1978
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 1: is y. It's kind of weird, right, It's kind of

1979
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 1: weird that, like we are an hour and I get it.

1980
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 1: I get in the morning while you're doing the one

1981
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 1: hour practices. But by goodness, but back back in why day,

1982
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 1: coach Brian had kids out there two days the middle afternoon. Yeah, okay.

1983
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 1: And the Colts have been a team that has had

1984
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 1: a lot of injury and has they have struggled with

1985
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 1: injuries and so therefore, you, you know, is this part

1986
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 1: of the strategy again of keeping them healthier? I mean,

1987
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, it seems Eddie. You tell me, does it

1988
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 1: seem odd to you? Am I just like an old guy?

1989
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 1: Or does it seem weird that they literally are doing

1990
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 1: what hour and that's it a day?

1991
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you are an old guy, Jake. I'm just kidding.

1992
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 3: That's how it's always been. Though I feel like they've

1993
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 3: they're doing four consecutive practices as well, like they didn't

1994
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 3: do that at all last year. They did an hour

1995
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 3: each day. They went an hour fifteen today and I

1996
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 3: don't know what tomorrow will entail. They'll practice tomorrow afternoon,

1997
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 3: I believe at four o'clock. I don't know if the

1998
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 3: pads will come on for tomorrow's practice or not, or

1999
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 3: if that'll be next week. But I don't think it's

2000
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 3: out of the ordinary for them to only have an

2001
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 3: hour Most teams are only practicing for an hour, hour fifteen.

2002
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 3: They're not going hour and a half hour, forty five

2003
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 3: two hours anymore. It's weird, right, And I think that's

2004
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 3: more so of things that have gone on between contractual

2005
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 3: talks and CBA agreements between the NFL and THERES Association

2006
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 3: and you know, all the health people that have been

2007
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 3: included in these conversations.

2008
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I was just surprised yesterday when I

2009
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:19,919
Speaker 1: heard that I think it was Taekwon, Lewis, DeForest Buckner,

2010
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore, Braden Smith with the rest day. I totally

2011
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 1: understand it. And those are guys that I get it.

2012
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: Those are guys that I get it. They you know,

2013
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: what possible things are you going to need to go over?

2014
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 1: For DeForest Buckner, I totally understand it. And you know what,

2015
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 1: we pre taped, pre taped something so I could get

2016
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 1: back here in studio today because it was going to

2017
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: be so hot. So I guess, you know, I do

2018
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 1: get it. I just it was surprising to me joining

2019
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 1: us now in the program. Longtime friend of the show,

2020
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 1: he has been on with us obviously before. He also

2021
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: is an accomplished writer and author who covers motor sports.

2022
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 1: This weekend a big weekend in motorsports. You've got a

2023
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: lot going on here in Indianapolis between the Brickyard four hundred,

2024
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 1: between IndyCar taking place out in Laguna Seca. And in

2025
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 1: addition to that, it has been twenty six years. Hard

2026
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: to believe that since one of the great rookie classes

2027
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: that we have seen in open wheel racing, and John

2028
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 1: Orovitz joining me now on the program to talk about

2029
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: his book Class of ninety nine that had both triumph

2030
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 1: and tragedy within that class. The book is now out

2031
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 1: and ready to go, right John.

2032
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 9: More or less, we officially announced it today. It'll ship

2033
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 9: probably six eight weeks from now.

2034
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 1: Okay, So, but you have finished the writing of it,

2035
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 1: is what I'm getting at, right, And you've colored in

2036
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 1: all the pictures too, right.

2037
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, the hard work's done. It's just a matter of

2038
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 9: talking about it and hoping it generates generates interest among

2039
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 9: the IndyCar fans.

2040
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 1: Give me the drivers that you featured in this that

2041
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 1: were rookie members of what was then Kart in nineteen

2042
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 1: ninety nine.

2043
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 9: Well, of this group, the only rookie that I focus

2044
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 9: on is is Juan Montoya. Cristiano Demata, who later went

2045
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 9: on to be a champion in the Kart Series and

2046
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 9: drove in Formula one, was also a rookie in ninety nine,

2047
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 9: but Montoya actually won the championship that year and a

2048
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 9: tie with Daria Frankety and so the group I focus

2049
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 9: on they all broke in between ninety six and ninety nine,

2050
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 9: but the focus of the book is the ninety nine season,

2051
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 9: which you know, as I said, frank Dy and Montoya

2052
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 9: tied for the championship. Greg Moore was, you know, a

2053
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 9: rising star in IndyCar racing and you know, expected to

2054
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 9: be a giant star of the future, and he got

2055
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 9: killed in the last race. And a younger guy called

2056
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 9: Gonzala Rodriguez also died that year at Laguna Seka. But

2057
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:45,440
Speaker 9: what was most notable was it really launched this generation

2058
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 9: that I compared to the greatest generation of Mario and

2059
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:51,160
Speaker 9: Age and the uncers. I think if you look at

2060
01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 9: Ilio Castroneves, Tony Kannan, Juan Montoya, Daria Frankity, Greg Moore collectively,

2061
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 9: they carried IndyCar racing for twenty years, are more the

2062
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 9: same way that Mario and AJ and those guys did,

2063
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 9: and so it really celebrates that generation and the way

2064
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,600
Speaker 9: Greg Moore brought them all together as friends. If you

2065
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 9: talk to AJ or Mario or Bobby Unser about race

2066
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 9: drivers being friends, you know, it was not the case

2067
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:18,759
Speaker 9: back in the day. But Greg had a contagious spirit

2068
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 9: that really brought these guys together and learned that they

2069
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:22,719
Speaker 9: could trust each other and be friends.

2070
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 2: You know.

2071
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: One of the things that to me is interesting, Oreo,

2072
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,360
Speaker 1: is the fact that, and I think people lose sight

2073
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 1: of this if you look at the biggest superstars of motorsports,

2074
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 1: and certainly from an Indianapolis five hundred standpoint, Bobby Unser,

2075
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:43,480
Speaker 1: Al Uncer, Dan Gurney for that matter, but Mario Andretti,

2076
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, Bobby Rayhall, Emerson, Fittipaldi, Tom Snev, Gordon, John Cock,

2077
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 1: Rick Mears, all of them.

2078
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 2: You know.

2079
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: As great as that era was and is, as great

2080
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: as the rivalries and the competition and the battles were,

2081
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 1: the reality is that those drivers all for the most part,

2082
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: with rare exception, they all retired with it about a

2083
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 1: five year period of one another, and then all of

2084
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 1: a sudden, almost seemingly in the bat of an eye.

2085
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean the split was the split as well, but

2086
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 1: you now had all at one time. There wasn't the

2087
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 1: slow immersion that you get now, right if you look

2088
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: now at Scott Dixon or Tony Kanaan or Dario Frankidi.

2089
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 1: They were able to race on the track against those

2090
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, Alexander Rossi and you know Renus vk and

2091
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 1: whoever you consider it, Joseph Knugarden, the next rising star.

2092
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 1: There was inter blend with them. How difficult was it

2093
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 1: for this particular group you're talking about to kind of

2094
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 1: just take over that handle of the torch without any

2095
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 1: sort of real immersion between the group before them and

2096
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 1: then their stardom.

2097
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 9: Well, I think there was kind of a lost generation

2098
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 9: because you know what I consider the greatest generation. You

2099
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 9: think of them in terms of the seventies, you know,

2100
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 9: AJ Mario and the Unsters and those guys, the guys

2101
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 9: that came to four in the eighties, Michael Andretti, Allenser Junior,

2102
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 9: Ray Hall Emerson. I don't think they resonated the same way,

2103
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,879
Speaker 9: and their careers weren't as long and as established as

2104
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 9: the generation before them, And somehow the eighties generation kind

2105
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,719
Speaker 9: of got lost and it wasn't until these younger guys

2106
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 9: broke through at the end of the nineties, and they

2107
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 9: did so despite the backdrop of the cart Irl split.

2108
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 9: You know, Kart in nineteen ninety nine was still pretty strong.

2109
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 9: But at the same time, as Mario Andretti says in

2110
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,640
Speaker 9: my book, you know, these guys, because of the politics

2111
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 9: and the focus on the politics of the era, they

2112
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 9: never got the recognition they deserved. And I think that

2113
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 9: goes in some ways toward the guys in the eighties too,

2114
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 9: because the nineteen seventy nine split never really ended. There

2115
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,599
Speaker 9: was always a cloud over the KRT series no matter

2116
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 9: how successful it was in the eighties because of conflict

2117
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:58,879
Speaker 9: with the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

2118
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 1: John when you were writing this book and you were

2119
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: talking to well, let's go, let's start with Greg Moore,

2120
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 1: because he's a centerpiece of the story of that season

2121
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 1: of ninety nine. I know Montoya was the champion, but

2122
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 1: more truly was not only a rising star, but to

2123
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 1: your point, was involved in a you know, a terrible

2124
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 1: accident that was a fatal accident at California Speedway to

2125
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,640
Speaker 1: end that season. Did you get a chance to go

2126
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 1: back and talk to, you know, those that worked within

2127
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: the team that Greg Moore was with, other than just

2128
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 1: the drivers that he was competing against. Were there those

2129
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 1: that you were able to talk to because of this

2130
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 1: book that taught you even more about Greg Moore that

2131
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:38,680
Speaker 1: you didn't know.

2132
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2133
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 9: I spent some time talking to one of Greg's best friends,

2134
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 9: a guy called Al Robbie who still lives out in

2135
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 9: the Vancouver area, and he was there at Fontana and he,

2136
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 9: you know, the companied Greg to a lot of Greg's

2137
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 9: races between say, nineteen ninety five and nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 9: Another one was Patrick Carpontier, who was Greg's teammate at

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Speaker 9: the time, and it was, you know, it was really

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Speaker 9: chilling to hear heir Patrick's you know response to you know,

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01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 9: what was happening within the team as this day unfolded

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Speaker 9: Halloween nineteen ninety nine at California Speedway. Dave Popolars, who

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Speaker 9: is who was a crew member for Frankty at the time.

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Speaker 9: He's the head of restoration for the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum. Now,

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01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 9: he gave some really great insight and of course, you know,

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01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:31,719
Speaker 9: even guys like Tony Kanaan, I mean, those guys didn't

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01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 9: learn that one of their best friends died until they

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Speaker 9: pulled into the pits at the end of that race.

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Speaker 9: Tony said he saw them put the flags down to

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Speaker 9: half staff in the middle of the race, which they did,

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01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 9: and he knew, and he says, you know, when they

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01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 9: put the flags to half mast, that's a world thing.

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01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 9: It means somebody died. And so imagine you're you know,

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01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 9: you're halfway through a five hundred mile race and you

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01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 9: make the connection that one of your best buddies just died.

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01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 9: I mean, the the things that these guys went through

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Speaker 9: back in the day, it's hard to fathom.

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Speaker 1: How much did Greg Moore carry them. And I don't

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01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 1: mean that to to sound cheesy or over romanticize it,

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Speaker 1: but I've noticed it, and in my coverage of racing

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Speaker 1: and being around it, I think it's genuine just how

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Speaker 1: much Greg Moore continued to drive, pardon the pun and

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01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 1: motivate Dario and Kannan and you know, probably le e

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01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 1: O as well, even though there was an odd tie

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Speaker 1: in with ele O contractually moving forward. But how much

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Speaker 1: do you think Greg Moore, in the spirit of Greg Moore,

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01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 1: continued to band that group together even when Greg Moore

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Speaker 1: physically wasn't around them.

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Speaker 9: I think it was very powerful and it extended to

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Speaker 9: later generations of racers, most famously James Hinchcliffe. Max Pappus,

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01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 9: you know, created the phrase red gloves rule because Greg

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01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 9: Moore used to say, you know, red gloves make you

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01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 9: a superhero. He always wore red gloves. Max after he

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Speaker 9: won his first race, ironically it was the first race

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01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 9: of two thousands, you know, he said red gloves rule

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Speaker 9: into his radio and James Hinchcliffe has picked up on that.

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Speaker 9: James Hinchcliffe, of course, another great Canadian racer. Hinchcliff, you know,

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Speaker 9: very memorably wore red gloves and I believe actually carry

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Speaker 9: a pair of Greg's gloves with him during his pole

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01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 9: run at Indianapolis a few years ago.

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Speaker 2: So he had.

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Speaker 9: The only guy I can compare him to on a

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Speaker 9: world stage is Jille Villanube, the Formula One driver who

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Speaker 9: again he wasn't a champion. He won five or six

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Speaker 9: races for Ferrari obviously, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Jill Villenue was

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Speaker 9: killed in nineteen eighty two, and he held the same

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01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 9: kind of aura just you know, this, this fascination that

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01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 9: never went away among fans, drivers, anybody.

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Speaker 1: John when you look, John Orovitz is our guest, and

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Speaker 1: again his book, we will get you all the information.

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Speaker 1: Coming up just a second about the season of ninety

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Speaker 1: nine in Cart. Juan Montoya was the champion that year.

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01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 1: What motivated you? You've been around it a long time, John,

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01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 1: You've seen a lot of great you know classes, You've

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01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 1: seen a lot of great seasons, You've seen a lot

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01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:14,919
Speaker 1: of great drivers.

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01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 3: What made you decide? You know what, I'm going to

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01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 3: sit down and I'm going to.

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Speaker 1: Write this book because this is the story that needs

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Speaker 1: to be told.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's as I think about it, I've I followed

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01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 9: IndyCar racing since the late seventies and you know, really

2203
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 9: became a super fan in the eighties and started covering

2204
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:38,520
Speaker 9: it in the early nineties, And in all my experience,

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01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 9: the ninety nine Cart season, it's it's just the most

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01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 9: compelling single season of IndyCar I ever saw. I mean,

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01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 9: it just had it all. It had these young guys

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01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 9: that had you know, the old garden, Michael and Al

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Speaker 9: Junior on their way out. It had you know, the tragedies,

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01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 9: which which you hate that it's a part of sport,

2211
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 9: a part of racing. That is part of its a lure.

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01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 9: But it was an important year for me too. I

2213
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 9: had spent the past two years working public relations for

2214
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 9: Past Racing, and I decided I would rather be on

2215
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 9: the media side. I had no process doing in ninety nine,

2216
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 9: but I ended up coming out of it okay. The

2217
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:22,879
Speaker 9: main thing was I got a job working for Quakett Sports,

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01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 9: who ran Cart's website at the time. In fact, Pimbler,

2219
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 9: who's the producer of Fox IndyCar Coverage now, was the

2220
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 9: producer of the website then, and so you know, in

2221
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 9: some ways I was trying to establish myself the same

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01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 9: way those guys were. And you know the fact that

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01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 9: it was concurrent with this remarkable season, It was just

2224
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 9: a real It was a privilege to be there, and

2225
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,679
Speaker 9: the reminder when you look back just how great IndyCar

2226
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 9: racing was and hopefully can be again.

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01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like long ago, that's for certain, but it

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01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 1: was six years ago. Class of ninety nine. Triumphant tragedy

2229
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:06,639
Speaker 1: in the nineteen ninety nine Cart IndyCar series from John Oriovitz,

2230
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 1: who of course has written several books when it comes

2231
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 1: to racing, notably about the split itself and everything that

2232
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 1: took place with that. This is the latest class of

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01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 1: ninety nine available Amazon and where else at this point.

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01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 9: Oreo Octanepress dot com is the publisher, and I'm sure

2235
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 9: that if you just reach out to me via social media,

2236
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 9: especially if you're locally and want to get a signed copy,

2237
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 9: I'm glad to help you out. We should have books

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01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:35,440
Speaker 9: late September, first of October.

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01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate Orio, talk to you soon. Octane Press,

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Speaker 1: by the way, again the publisher and website as well. John,

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01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 1: appreciate it as always.

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01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 2: Thanks Jake, Take care, John.

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01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 1: Orivitz joining us on the program. It's a Friday, It's

2244
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:48,759
Speaker 1: a bottom of the hour. You know what that means.

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01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 1: It is time for a Franciscan health feel good, good

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01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 1: for the heart story, and this one is one of

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01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 1: the monthly interviews that we do to get you caught

2248
01:51:58,000 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: up on something that is oh so important. Let me

2249
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 1: tell you a text that I got earlier today, literally

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Speaker 1: earlier today, somebody sent me a text saying, Jake, I

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01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 1: wanted to let you know the importance of a heart

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01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: scan because I thought I was healthy, went in and

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01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 1: got a heart scan and then found out that in

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01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 1: fact I did have blockage that made it necessary for

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01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 1: me to go on to cholesterol medication and get a stint.

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01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 1: The heart scan was also important. Just forty nine dollars

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Speaker 1: and I am very grateful for the opportunity from Franciscan

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01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 1: to talk about cardiovascular health. And we're going to do

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01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 1: that just a couple of minutes. On the other side, it's.

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Speaker 3: A Friday, it's the bottom of the hour. You know

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01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 3: what that means.

2262
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:35,720
Speaker 1: It is time for if Franciscan Health feel good good

2263
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:38,599
Speaker 1: for the heart Friday. And we do this occasionally where

2264
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 1: we step aside from telling you a feel good story

2265
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 1: in terms of the world of sports and a story

2266
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 1: that we hope will help you feel good in terms

2267
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 1: of your heart health, and get a reminder Franciscan, I'll

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Speaker 1: get you all the information just forty nine dollars for

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01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,640
Speaker 1: a heart scan, which is the most important thing to

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01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 1: do in the first step towards cardiovascular health. It is

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Speaker 1: not invasive, it is oh so simple and just forty

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Speaker 1: nine dollars. You can self refer pay out of pocket.

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01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 1: You get a heart health risk assessment with it as well,

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Speaker 1: and all from Franciscan. That is number one from multiple

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Speaker 1: multiple places throughout Indiana when it comes to cardiovascular care,

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01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: multiple scores of number one in the state of Indiana

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Speaker 1: for Franciscan Health. And joining me now on the program,

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Speaker 1: doctor Adam Hicks is a word certified vascular surgeon at

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Speaker 1: Franciscan and we're here to talk about PAD now. When

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01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 1: JMB is on the radio, PAD means PAD time, that

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01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 1: means extra time to talk about whatever. But in this

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01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 1: case it's more important than that. It's peripheral arterial disease.

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01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:37,759
Speaker 1: And I can tiptoe my way through saying that, doctor

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01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:40,799
Speaker 1: Adam Hicks, but I have no idea exactly what it means.

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01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 1: So welcome to the program. I appreciate the time, and

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Speaker 1: can you tell me more about PAD.

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Speaker 10: Yes, So proofer arterial disease simply means blockages in the

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01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 10: arterial slow. Typically when we talk about it, we're discussing

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Speaker 10: the legs. So similarly to how a heart can have

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01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 10: blockages in its arteries that can cause a heart attack,

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01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 10: peripheral arterial disease can have blockages and the arteries that

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01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 10: lead down to your legs and feet, which can lead

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01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:10,759
Speaker 10: to a symptom called qualtication, which is kind of cramping.

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01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,679
Speaker 10: In the calf with walking as well as the development

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01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 10: of wounds, and if not treated appropriately, can ultimately lead

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01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 10: to amputation, which is obviously an outcome we're trying to avoid.

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01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 10: So that's why it's important to you get screened and

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01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:31,120
Speaker 10: have a good understanding of, you know, what your cardiovascular

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01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:31,600
Speaker 10: health is.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you go with doctor Hicks. And again

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01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 1: this will show why I talk about ball scores and you're,

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01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, a doctor right with the neophyte level with

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01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 1: which this question is going to come. But when you

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01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 1: talk about something like this and the arterial disease and

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01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 1: the issues, say in the legs, is it more often

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Speaker 1: that that issue can then lead to heart disease or

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01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 1: is this actually a byproduct and a emptom of the

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01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 1: fact that heart disease is already consistent or visible within

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Speaker 1: the patient.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so heart disease and peripheral arterial disease are kind

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Speaker 10: of one and the same thing, because ultimately, when we

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01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 10: say heart disease, we typically are talking about the blood

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01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 10: vessels that are feeding the heart. Similarly, peripheral arterial disease

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01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 10: we're talking about the blood vessels that feed down to

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01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 10: the legs. And so certain lifestyle choices such as obesity, smoking, diabetes,

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01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 10: high cholesterol, and high blood pressure. All these things kind

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01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 10: of combined to cause both heart disease. But maybe the

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01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 10: lesser known thing is that it has that same effect

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Speaker 10: on the arteries throughout the body, which can lead to

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Speaker 10: peripheral arterial disease. So most of our patients with peripheral

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Speaker 10: arterial disease, we just presume also will have a component

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Speaker 10: of party of vascular disease or heart disease as well.

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01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 10: So it's essentially it's the same process. It's just affecting

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Speaker 10: arteries in different locations.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you when you look at this particular issue.

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Speaker 1: Doctor doctor Adam Hicks is my guest. He's a board

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01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 1: certified vascular surgeon with Franciscan Health and we're talking about

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01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 1: peripheral peripheral arterial disease. Are there signs and symptoms for

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01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 1: somebody that you know? Is there a particular age range

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01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 1: in which this begins to show itself and what would

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01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 1: the signs or symptoms be.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so most people will begin showing symptoms as early

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Speaker 10: as their fifth or sixth decade of life. Does anybody

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01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 10: you know sixty seventy years or older is kind of

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01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 10: the typical age range where we begin to see symptoms.

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Speaker 10: Most commonly, the first symptom is because there's not enough

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Speaker 10: blood flow getting down to the muscles in the foot

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Speaker 10: in calf, people will get cramping. They're kind of like

2339
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 10: a Charlie horse in the calf when they start walking

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01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:56,240
Speaker 10: long distances and they'll notice that they can they cannot

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Speaker 10: walk as far over time, and then as the disease advances,

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01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:03,839
Speaker 10: people can develop wounds on the feet too. It's another

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01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 10: symptom that we'll frequently see.

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Speaker 1: And would someone just go to you know, doctor Hicks

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01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 1: there there every day. Let's say, for example, that you

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01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: go to your just your general practitioner and then this

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01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 1: is discovered, would you go into just simple cardiology with that,

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01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 1: or is there a specific area and focus of a

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Speaker 1: doctor that one would see, a specialist that one would

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Speaker 1: see for it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so this is a great thing to bring up

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Speaker 10: with your primary care doctor. They'll know exactly what test

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Speaker 10: to order. Fortunately, it's a very straightforward simple tests that

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Speaker 10: they can order. It's just an ultrasound, so there's no

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Speaker 10: radiation or any anything else associated with it. It's usually

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Speaker 10: a pretty quick test under fifteen minutes or so, and

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01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 10: any general practitioner should be able to order that the

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01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 10: disease process itself is typically managed you know, by vascular surgeons,

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Speaker 10: but also sometimes we'll be managed by cardiologists and some

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Speaker 10: other specialty as well. But any general practitioner will be

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Speaker 10: able to get arterial ultrasounds of the legs and get

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Speaker 10: a good baseline for what the blood float to the

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Speaker 10: legs looks like. If you're having any symptoms.

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Speaker 1: What is something someone can do to be preventative to

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Speaker 1: make sure that this is not something that they encounter.

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Speaker 10: Yes, so, even though it's a little bit of counterintuitive

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01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 10: because the folks who have proper arterial disease will have

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01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 10: cramping when they walk, actually exercising and walking is one

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01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 10: of the best things that you can do that's great

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Speaker 10: for your cardiovascar health, but it also helps improve the

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Speaker 10: flow and the arterial blood vessels that are still open

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Speaker 10: and patient. Additionally, avoidance of tobacco products so no smoking,

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Speaker 10: and then adherence to your other medical you know, issues

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01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 10: such as keeping your blood pressure low, being on cholesterol

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01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:59,959
Speaker 10: or medications, a healthy diet. All of those things are

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Speaker 10: very helpful in preventing PAD.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Adam Hicks is our guest we're talking about he

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01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: is a board certified by the Way vascular surgeon at

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Speaker 1: Franciscan Health. We're talking about PAD. So let's just go

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Speaker 1: through one of my hypotheticals. We'll take a guy named John. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So John goes in, he goes to his general doctor.

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Speaker 1: This is discovered for John the overall then I guess

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Speaker 1: roadmap the next month or two for John in terms

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01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 1: of treatment and the therapy and the things that he

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Speaker 1: would go through moving forward would be what.

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Speaker 10: Yes, So the first thing I do is just get

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Speaker 10: a general sense for how severe the diseases, which typically

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01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 10: can be accomplished with just one of those ultrasound tests.

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Speaker 10: But also my physical exam is an important part of

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Speaker 10: the process, so I always make sure to look at

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01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:50,040
Speaker 10: the feet, listen to the pulses, and take a feel

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01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:52,800
Speaker 10: of the blood pressure in the feed, all those things.

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01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 10: So I take those factors, and most patients, in the

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01:59:56,560 --> 02:00:01,040
Speaker 10: absence of severe pain or wound, they will require a

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Speaker 10: surgical intervention, but rather we treat with different medication adjustments,

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02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:11,160
Speaker 10: walking program and obviously trying to abstain from tobacco use.

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Speaker 10: So we typically will put them on kind of a

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Speaker 10: monitoring program where we try and optimize those medical things

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Speaker 10: that we can. Most of the patients who are identified

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Speaker 10: to have PAD can be managed medically, but there are

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Speaker 10: a small subset of patients who will progress to worsening

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02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 10: PAD and may potentially need interventions. Oftentimes those can be

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Speaker 10: done with minually invasive approaches, kind of like a heart cathorization.

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Speaker 10: It's similar, and we do essentially a leg cathorization and

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02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:45,960
Speaker 10: can take pictures of the blood vessels in the leg.

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02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:50,280
Speaker 10: But fortunately, most people can be managed medically and will

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Speaker 10: not need an invasive procedure. And then even a smaller

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Speaker 10: subset of patients may need open surge bypasses.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Adam E.

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Speaker 1: Sports, certified vascular surgeon with and ciscin Health and again

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Speaker 1: doctor forty nine dollars heart scan. There's no reason for

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Speaker 1: people to not get it right. I've been preaching this

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Speaker 1: forever and I think you probably agree.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, doctor, I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: I know you're the product Cathedral High School, the Dayton

2416
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:18,040
Speaker 1: Flyers as well in Indiana University in terms of the

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Speaker 1: School of Medicine. I certainly appreciate the time, and we

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Speaker 1: look forward next time that we have another area that

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Speaker 1: we need to explore that we have you back on

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Speaker 1: the program.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I would love to come back and chat some more.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Doctor Adam Hicks, Board certified vascular surgeon from

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Speaker 1: Franciscan Health.

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Speaker 3: Your big plans Eddie for the weekend would be what not?

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Speaker 3: Entirely sure, Jake, I'm not sure yet. I may go

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Speaker 3: out to the Green Park tomorrow, entirely sure. What the

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Speaker 3: plans are? I I and you talk to a Levy

2429
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 3: to see if she wants to do anything. I know

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02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 3: she's been mentioning about wanting to get to a pool

2431
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:53,440
Speaker 3: and hang out at Lazy River at some point. So

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02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:55,480
Speaker 3: maybe this weekend, how about you? I know you've got.

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Speaker 1: IndyCar IndyCar indeed correct, Laguna Seika, California, which will be

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Speaker 1: fun this weekend. Obviously the brickyard taking place as well,

2435
02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:08,320
Speaker 1: but I will be on the IndyCar side of things.

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02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 1: We do kind of split cruise for that. Nick and

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02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:15,840
Speaker 1: Michael will be with the guy Michael Young. Correct, They

2438
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 1: will be with the PRN guys doing the brickyard, and

2439
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 1: then Mark James myself will be on the IndyCar side

2440
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:28,240
Speaker 1: doing Monterey. I'm looking at the camp schedule for the

2441
02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:33,480
Speaker 1: Colts for practice days upcoming. What is today's day? Today

2442
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Speaker 1: is the twenty fifth, correct, Yes, sir, They have one

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02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 1: tomorrow at I think four Tomorrow practice is from four

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02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:42,440
Speaker 1: until five thirty, that is correct. Then the twenty eighth,

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02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:47,800
Speaker 1: that is Monday practice from ten until eleven fifteen. The

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02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 1: twenty ninth Tuesday ten until eleven thirty for practice for

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02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:55,640
Speaker 1: the Colts. As that is the lineup for the next

2448
02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:57,920
Speaker 1: couple of days. Keep in mind on the back half

2449
02:02:58,040 --> 02:03:01,480
Speaker 1: of their training camp schedule is when they start to

2450
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:06,680
Speaker 1: do the joint practices that take place, and they have

2451
02:03:07,160 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, obviously a busy weekend as well, those joint

2452
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:13,080
Speaker 1: practices that take place. I believe that is what the

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Speaker 1: eleventh and fourteenth is that right, While.

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02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:18,360
Speaker 3: They only have one at Grand Park and that's just

2455
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 3: on the fourteenth with Attackers, they have one with the

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02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:26,840
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens in Baltimore on that leading up to the

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Speaker 3: first preseason game.

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Speaker 1: So busy weekend though for everybody involved, and look forward

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02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 1: to being able to talk about all of it on Monday.

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02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Cam buying him. I thought he was

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02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 1: outstanding by energy man, totally really nice guy. Cam buying

2462
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:45,360
Speaker 1: them for the colts that available. That podcast will be

2463
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:49,000
Speaker 1: available in podcast form one oh seven five the fan

2464
02:03:49,720 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 1: dot com where you can hear that.

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02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:55,160
Speaker 3: And how about Cam hyping us up a little bit, Jake,

2466
02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:57,879
Speaker 3: at least to you in terms of your profession.

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02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said actually that he thought it would be

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02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: hard because I said, man, you've got a natural broadcasting

2469
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:06,680
Speaker 1: career in front of you. Because he's very energetic, I thought,

2470
02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, really explain things well. And he said, I

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02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:12,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to talk for three hours. Wait, so

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02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 1: are you saying that our job is difficult? And he said,

2473
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:16,760
Speaker 1: your job is harder at mine. I wonder how he

2474
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:19,680
Speaker 1: knew he did a three hour show. I think I

2475
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:22,320
Speaker 1: might have said, no, you're right. He actually he's the

2476
02:04:22,360 --> 02:04:25,800
Speaker 1: one that volunteered that, right, Yeah, he volunteered that information.

2477
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:29,520
Speaker 1: But he was super cool and I thought offered really

2478
02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:32,160
Speaker 1: good perspective. And in particular, you know, he's one of

2479
02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:33,520
Speaker 1: those guys that you look at and you go, okay,

2480
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:36,040
Speaker 1: they signed him for four years and sixty million, and

2481
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:38,480
Speaker 1: then when you see him and you're around you see why.

2482
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 1: I mean, there is a leadership aspect there. There is

2483
02:04:42,200 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 1: a football IQ aspect there just to IQ in general,

2484
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:46,920
Speaker 1: I mean being able to go to the Philippines and

2485
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:48,960
Speaker 1: teach you about football. Just a really good guy, So

2486
02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:52,240
Speaker 1: Cam Bindham. That is available on the podcast John's Up Next.

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02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,520
Speaker 1: We'll be back with you at noon on Monday. I

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02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 1: thank you for listening to Quarying Company.