1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: And Grand Rising family, me and welcome to Wellness Wednesday. Later, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: traditional and naturopathic doctor doctor A. We'll return our classroom 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: and Kevin, I got an echo here, So if you 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: work that out, I appreciate it. If you are someone 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: you know facing a health challenge, doctor A is the 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: person you need to speak to and family, take advantage 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: of her expertise. Doctor A will provide you with a 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: traditional and a traditional medical response and also holistic method 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: to deal with your issue. So again you've been warmed, 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: take advantage of doctor A's expertise. But before we speak 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: to doctor A, doctor Benson Cook from the University of 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: District of Columbia will join us. Doctor Cook is a 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: nationally recognized psychologist whose groundbreaking work centers on African centered wellness. 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: But to get a started momentary, we're going to speak 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: with David Murphy from the National Black Unity News. First, 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: let's get Kevin, who open up these classroom doors for 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: us again, Grand Rising, Kevin. 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Hey girl, Nelson, Grand Rising, Indeed, it's all the way 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: live on this Wednesday, the eighteenth of March. 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: How are you feeling, I'm still learning, Kevin, I'm still learning. 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah, that's solid that's hip. That's it's a gas. 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 2: Remember back in the day when we used to say 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: things like that, You. 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: Know, I was just saying that a couple of days ago. 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking of people used to say, it's a gas. 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 1: He's in the grass, he's a gas. That's song right, right, 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: it's Sammy Davis, you all the other hip cats. We'll 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: talk about it's a gas man, right. 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: But the gas was their response to you. You would 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: say solid and then liquid, right, and it's a gas. 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: It's a gas. 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: Some of the young folks have absolutely no clue what 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about. 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: Right, right, My young associate sitting here, yeah, right, shaking 35 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 2: his head. 36 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: What, Yeah, it's just tell me it's a gas. That's okay, Yeah, 37 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: it's all a gas man. 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on, though, man, I don't 39 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: know how much of a gas the things are that 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: are happening. Area of the European leaders rebuff Trump's call 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: to open the Strait of Hormus. He seemed to be 42 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: trying to build an alliance, and he's been skeptical skeptical 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: about the value of the alliance since two weeks into 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: his war with Iran. He was trying to build that 45 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: and face with Tehran's successful effort to cut off the 46 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: flow of oil and gas tankers through a vital shipping 47 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: choke point, a strategy that has sent global energy prices 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: by skyrocking right skyrocketing. Rather, Trump has a sweep of 49 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 2: nations to help secure He blasted Britain, Germany, Japan, South 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: Korea and others for their reluctance. 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 3: And he has revised his. 52 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: Long standing complaints about the NATO Defense Alliance. And he 53 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: said that he should rethink the US relationship with the 54 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: allies without congressional approval. What's the idea of trying to 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: do everything by going around Congress? 56 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: What's that about? 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: Well, here's the larger picture, because he's isolating the country. 58 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: That's what he's doing here. 59 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: Let me just give you. 60 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: Some of the countries and their response. Italy rejected, Spain rejected, 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: Japan rejected, France hesitant so far, Norway rejected, Canada rejected, 62 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: Australia rejected, Germany rejected, China and no response. They just 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: blew him off. UK no commitment, no real commitment so far, 64 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: Netherlands no response so far, South Korea no confirmation so again. 65 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: And he and in fact, some of China's making memes 66 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: of him begging now countries to join his coalition, and 67 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: everybody thumb their noses at him. So, yeah, he's isolated 68 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: the countries isolated. The United States' haitant to say he's 69 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: isolated us because you know that means that you're sort 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: of part of him. We talk about the things that 71 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: he's doing and say, this is doing this to us, 72 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: but he said really doing to us? Is he doing 73 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: it to himself? You know, I. 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: Think he's taking that weight upon himself, on his own shoulders, 75 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: unless he's just totally clueless of how to run a country. 76 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, it's that jingoistic thing that you 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: know that America is the best and the briest way, 78 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: the hottest country. What do you think that does the 79 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: other countries? You know, it's so good. Now you're asking 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: for our help. You take care of it yourself. You 81 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: started the war. Why should we have a send our 82 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: boys to die? That's what some of the Bridges are saying. 83 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: Now. 84 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: It's not the first time that a US war of 85 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: choice in the Middle East has set off transatlantic tensions. 86 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,119 Speaker 2: Of French and German opposition to President George W. Bush 87 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: two thousand and three. Invasion of Iraq set off denunciations 88 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: of Old Europe by Bush allies and an effort to 89 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: rename French Fries as Freedom Fries. But Bush never tried 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: to pressure your by threatening to pull out of NATO, 91 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: and many other European countries, along with Britain, also joined 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: the war. So are we saying that Donald Trump makes 93 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: even George w. 94 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: Look like he was a smart president? Right? 95 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: And then no love lost between those two families? You 96 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: know that? 97 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, he's Bush Junior spent four months putting it 98 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: together a coalition after Saddam invaded Kuwait. And of course 99 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: you remember the weapons of mass destructions. 100 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, I tell. 101 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: You they're taking it in stride. Meanwhile, more Trump news, 102 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: the White House releases the DHS funding offer. He released 103 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: a letter detailing changes it will make to the Department 104 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: of Homeland Security as it looks to secure a deal 105 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: with the Democrats to end the nearly five week long 106 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: partial government shut down. And the move is the Trump 107 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: administration's attempt to show it it's making good faith after 108 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: the Democrats derided their proposal as unseerious and comes as 109 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: staffing issues at the Transportation Security administration grow more acute, 110 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: leading to longer wait times at the airports across the country. 111 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: And you know people are going to be unhappy about that. 112 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: Were your thoughts, Well, you know, what what can we do? Listen? 113 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: You know, Kevin, all the things that he's doing, he 114 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: told us what he's going to do. So for me 115 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: many folks, we're is not surprised, right. 116 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, he even said that whole thing about isolating America, 117 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: you know, America first, this sort of thing, and so 118 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: he can. 119 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's here's the problem with that. Now, some 120 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: of the Maga that split the MAGA people because they're saying, 121 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: is an America first or Israel first? You know, how 122 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: do we get into this? So they're questioning is comments 123 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: and some say this is not the president we voted for. 124 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: They were all down with America first, but not Israel first. 125 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: And you know, and what's interesting though, Kevin is for 126 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 1: the first time you're hearing people, you know, focally opposing 127 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: or saying something that could be interpreted as negative towards Israel. 128 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: Israel was the third rail in politics. You just say 129 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: something that the people think. It's even this conversation that 130 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: we're having now, you would you probably get white bault. 131 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: They would talk you out as ask a minister fire 132 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: Gun or Jesse or we can't ask Jesse. But because 133 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 1: you know, they still they still paying the price because 134 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: of what they said. But now it seems now now 135 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: that you've got white folks to criticize in Israel and 136 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: criticizing Donald Trump what he's doing. So he shocked about that. 137 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And speaking of the late great Jesse Jackson, 138 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson Junior lost his bid. Donald Miller defeats Jesse 139 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: Jackson Junior in Illinois second District primary and she won 140 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: the seat that was held by Representative Robin Kelly, who 141 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: is running for US Senate, and the race is one 142 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: of several Democratic primaries in which million of dollars and 143 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: outside pack spending may have helped shape the outcome. Miller 144 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: received over forty percent of the vote to Jackson's twenty 145 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: eight percent when the Associated Press called the race. Miller 146 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: is a Cook County Board commissioner representing the sixth district 147 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: and has spent decades working in healthcare. She previously served 148 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: as board chair of Planned Parenthood of Illinois, and she 149 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: also ran for state Senate back in twenty twelve, losing 150 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: in the fifteenth district, so right on you know, Women's 151 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: History Month, So we talked about her first before we 152 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: bring up my favorite person to talk about today. 153 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: What do you think of that? 154 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: You know, what's interested that Some of the lessens recall 155 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: Pastor Anthony Williams, Chicago actor, which was with us. It 156 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: was a couple of weeks ago and he was talking 157 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: about the race and the situation with Junior at the 158 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: funeral of his dad when the out person when he 159 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: slammed the former presidents and saying it was political. And 160 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, Pastor Williams says he thought that was political 161 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: because he reminded the rest of us. He says, beple 162 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: in Chicago. No, it's an election and he's on the ticket. 163 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: He's trying to get his seat back, and he just 164 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: implied that. Pastor Willis implied that was done politically to 165 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: get his name out there, and he did for a while. 166 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: He was up in the polls of you know, leading 167 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: up to the leading up to the voting, but it 168 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: seems like many of these votes probably were done before 169 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: even the funeral. So that outburst and some people say, 170 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, he's still grieving or why, or he shouldn't 171 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: have said it, or it's true whether or not. Some 172 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: say like he did it for political expediency, he wanted 173 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: to get his name out there for the election. He 174 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: came up short. 175 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: Well, there are some reasons they say may have affected 176 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: his loss. For example, Jackson pleaded guilty to the wire 177 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: and mail fraud, serving thirty months in prison for using 178 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: campaign funds on items like a forty three thousand dollars rolex, 179 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: memorabilia and clothing, and public trust issues. Opponents and voters 180 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: cited the need for honesty and accountability, viewing his comeback bid, 181 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: like I said, as a return to the old corrupt 182 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: habits rather than a new chapter. Jackson acknowledged that the 183 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: inability to escape his past or the evil of the 184 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: Google search made it incredibly difficult to regain public confidence. 185 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: And one other idea was that many voters in the district, 186 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: which have a history of political scandal, appeared ready for 187 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: a new representation, even though that didn't work, and so 188 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: by securing nine hundred and eighty six million dollars for 189 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: his district, it supposedly gave him an advantage, but it 190 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: wasn't enough to overcome the stigma of that scandal. 191 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Well, it's said for himself, the folks, and 192 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: you know it's all local. They knew, they knewest history 193 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: has Pastor Williams pointed out, and that's where they made 194 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: their decision. 195 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: Okay, And the Democratic women partner that expression, are doing 196 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: their thing. 197 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 3: Man. 198 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: Juliana Stratton wins Illinois Democratic Senate primary race. The progressive 199 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: candidate was behind Christna Morty until she got an infusion 200 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: of cash from Governor Pritzker. With nearly ninety percent of 201 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: the vote tally, Stratton was leading by more than six 202 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: percent points on Tuesday night, according to the Associated Press, 203 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: and she said, we did it tonight. We showed what's 204 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: possible when you listen to people and give the people 205 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: what they want. 206 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because Pritzer was on the ballot, but 207 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: he was on a post so he's going to win reelection. 208 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: She's gonna we'll see how she does in the general election. 209 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: That was a primy. She's run the Democratic primary. We'll 210 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: see how she does against a Republican opponent in the fall. 211 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: Well, they say turnout was unusually high for that Senate contest, 212 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: and which Chicago still recovering from the upscaled ice and 213 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: accompanying street protests of Operation Midway Blitz. Immigration policy separated 214 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: the two front runners, and Stratton called directly for their 215 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 2: abolishment of ice, while Christna Morti has been more nuanced 216 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: calling for the abolishment of Trump's ice, and they both 217 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: asked for the abolishment. So congratulations to her. And finally, 218 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: in women's history, after we just spoke of women in history, 219 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: now I want to talk about Gertrude Ma Rainey born 220 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: April twenty sixth, eighteen eighty six and died December twenty second, 221 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: nineteen thirty nine. 222 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 3: And she was. 223 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: What was her real name, Gertrude Pritchett, and she began 224 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: performing as a teenager and became known as Ma Rainey 225 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: after her marriage to will Pau Rainey in nineteen oh four, 226 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: and they toured with rabbit Foot Minstrels and later formed 227 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: their own group, Rainy and Rainy Fascinators of the Blues. 228 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: How's that for Brandy? Her first recording was made in 229 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty three. In the following five years, she made 230 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: over one hundred recordings, including bo Weaver of Blues, Moonshine, Blues, 231 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: c c. Ryder Blues. My father used to sing that 232 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: all the time. And then she made her famous Ma 233 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: Rainey's Black Bottom and soon this Morning. She also collaborated 234 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: with Thomas Dorsey, Tampa Red, and Louis Armstrong and toured 235 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: and recorded with the Georgia Jazz Band. And remember the 236 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: movie about Black Bottom where oh yeah, Viola Davis played her. 237 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: And Chadwick Boseman was in that movie too. I think 238 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: that was his last movie. 239 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was his last movie. And you 240 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: could kind of see that he was a little ill 241 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: in that, but he was dramatic as all get out. Man, 242 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: it was a really good movie. If you didn't get 243 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 2: a chance, man to check that out. But that's the 244 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: way it is. On the eighteen, this is what do 245 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: you call it? Wellness Wednesday, And thanks for your time. 246 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 5: Ca. 247 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: We've got to get. 248 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kevin. All right, fifteen at the top, let's 249 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: go over to Baltimore. David Murphy, Grand Rising, welcome back 250 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: to the program. 251 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: This Grand rathering to you as well. 252 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: Now, David, you've got a documentary out. Can you share 253 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: with the family what this documentary is all about? 254 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: Yes, I called it Black Baltimore and it ranges from 255 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: the nineteen fifties to the nineteen eighties. Uh. And one 256 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: of the reasons why this is I'm doing this is 257 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: because you know, most people know Baltimore have a bad sticking, 258 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 4: you know, based on a couple of TV shows. One 259 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: was called The Corner, the other one was called The Wire, 260 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: and you know, and so when you know where the 261 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 4: you know, public relations goes out like that, you know, 262 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: people formed into the opinion about this city. And but 263 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: those those type shows pretty much in any major city, 264 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: you know, on any given corner. But you know, but 265 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 4: the thing is, one of the major things on called 266 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: is this. You know, back in the fifties, especially in 267 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 4: the sixties here in Baltimore, we had so many people 268 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: doing so many great and wonderful things. I mean, we 269 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: was breaking all types of glass ceilings, you know. 270 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 271 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 4: And most people have no clue of all of these 272 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: people right in there on the backyard of the things 273 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: that we've done back in the day. One of the 274 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: reasons is because first of all, you know, nobody recorded 275 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: us to tell our stories and h and nobody did 276 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: a documentary. And there's a lady here in baltim by 277 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: the name of Rosa Pryor. She had several books on 278 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: Baltimore back in the hey day that Pennsylvania had new 279 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: highlights and things like that. And she was one of 280 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: the inspirations for me doing this is because when she 281 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: said she couldn't find any data when she was doing 282 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 4: her research for a book, but she also told me 283 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: she wasn't make good on computers and stuff. So I 284 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: took on the task to start searching for it, and 285 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: I couldn't find anything as well. I did the Google 286 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 4: and everything else, the YouTube and everything. All I found 287 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 4: was negativity. All I saw was close and collaborated houses 288 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 4: and the worst parts of the city that they would show. 289 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: And of course, you know, you know, we all know 290 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: that leave it up to them. The way they would 291 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: tell our story, that's what they're going to get. They 292 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 4: would never tell it, you know, the full story, the 293 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: whole story. 294 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: And a whole lot story. Right there, we've got to 295 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: step aside for a moment. Let me come back and 296 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: tell us more about this documentary. Family just waking up 297 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: just joined us seventeen minutes after the top there. I 298 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: guess it is David Murphy Davids from Baltimore and from 299 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: the National Black Unity newspaper and he's doing a documentary 300 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: about Black Baltimore. I want to hear about this, and 301 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm glad that he's doing this, because if we don't 302 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: tell our story, who will. You want to get in 303 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: on this conversation. Reach out to us at eight hundred 304 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take 305 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: your phone calls next and grind Rising family. Thanks for 306 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: waking up with us on this Wednesday morning, twenty one 307 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: minutes after the top day. I was I guess that 308 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: David Murphy from Baltimore. She's got a documentary coming out 309 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: about Black Baltimore. David, I just want to thank you 310 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: for doing this. Is that the title of the documentary, 311 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: Black Baltimore. 312 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 4: Yes, that's what I call it. Yes, from the nineteen 313 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: fifties to the nineteen eighties. But the full documentary, you know, 314 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 4: will be done in decades. So this is, like you say, 315 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 4: a trailer, what I've shown to you with just the trailer, 316 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 4: and like I say, we would do it in the 317 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: the entire decade of the fifties, the sixties and seventies 318 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: and the eighties. Once we do the full documentary, it's 319 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 4: so much data that I came across. It's so much information. 320 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 4: And we still have people around who was back in 321 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: the day, you know, and know the families are still around, 322 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 4: the prominent families, and we have some noted people who 323 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 4: are passually telling their stories in this documentary. And now 324 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: that's what we're doing today. We collact, you know, you know, 325 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 4: talking with a lot of elders, and people have archives, 326 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: you know, they have pictures from back in the day, 327 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 4: and and and the stories that you know. Let I say, 328 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: I came up in the fifties, but I did not 329 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 4: know all of this stuff was going on around me. 330 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 4: I knew about the Black Hospital. 331 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: Well, I was going to ask you. Let me interrupt 332 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: asking this though, since I started interrupting you. But but David, 333 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: what anything that stood out to you? They go, wow, 334 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: people did this junior research. 335 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 4: Well, one thing was, you know, I'm a businessman, and 336 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: if we had a company here called Park Sausage and 337 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 4: by a man named Haysburg and and the other je 338 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: I can't think of his name right off the top 339 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 4: of my head, but these two gymal that was actually 340 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: the first company in the history of black people, that 341 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: the first black company that went public wasn't. 342 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 3: That national think that was national. I remember hearing that. 343 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 4: It was called Park Sauce, Pop saucege go ahead, yeah, 344 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 4: and that, you know, that kind of stuff. I didn't know, 345 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: you know, I know it was a huge company, you know, 346 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 4: but I didn't know it was the first. And you know, 347 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 4: and a lot of things in Baltimore, especially in the 348 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 4: political arena, that shoot up. And there was another gentleman, 349 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 4: and you know, because you know there was all he 350 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: was a legendary figure German by the name of they 351 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 4: call him Little Willie Adams and and back in the days, 352 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 4: you know, they you know, this is just some of 353 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: the stuff that I heard that he was a number 354 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 4: runner back in the days and before we had lotteries. 355 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 4: He that said, you know, because he and he was 356 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 4: extremely successful at it. But what he did he took 357 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 4: his money and for now so many business black businesses 358 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: in the Baltimore small as well as large businesses, mon 359 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 4: domins and I'm talking about this man had a fingerprinting 360 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: so many black business is because he shared the well 361 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 4: he was the Black bank and and so you know, 362 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 4: stuff like this, and so what it does for me 363 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 4: is this, you know, we did it back day during 364 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 4: some trying times. But these people were breaking all of 365 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: these blass seilings. And I'm a pat this call, uh, 366 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 4: because of all the negativity that I've seen and I've 367 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 4: heard and through mass media about you know, us as 368 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 4: the people not just seeing Baltimore but all over the place. 369 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: You know, when we started doing our research on who 370 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: we truly are, because like I said, a lot of 371 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 4: people didn't document us. But you know, I thank god, 372 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 4: you know that I had the opportunity to do this. 373 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: I am so proud, so proud to be a black 374 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: Baltimorean because I did not know that all of this 375 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 4: was going and what you've seen was just the tip 376 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: of the iceberg. I mean, man, I mean, I mean 377 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 4: they was really putting in the work, as the young 378 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 4: people say in them days and so but you know 379 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 4: the thing, the beautiful thing about this is our young people, 380 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: my children and my grandchild had no clue all this 381 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: went around them. All they see is, you know, a negativity. 382 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 4: They see, you know, certain things with other meat that 383 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 4: with mass media showed them, but when they see this. 384 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 4: I showed it to my grandson. He was so impressed. 385 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: He was so impressed, he said, Pop, I didn't do 386 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 4: say pop pop, I didn't know we did all that stuff, 387 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 4: you know. And see that's the most important thing is 388 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: because they're gonna give a positive image on our young 389 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 4: folks to let you know, right in their own bank, 390 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 4: right on their own blocks and stuff that great black 391 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: men and women put in the work back in the 392 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 4: day and made some powerful positive things happen, and they 393 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 4: can do it as well and stop, you know, and 394 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: you know, call and back. And also I used to 395 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 4: say in quite a few meetings when we had you know, 396 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 4: different generations in it, and you know, a lot of 397 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 4: the younger guys from the twenties and the thirty years 398 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 4: old will come up to us sometime and say, y'all 399 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: need to get out the way because y'all didn't do anything. 400 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 4: That's why we're going through this mess now. And see 401 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: they feel that way because nobody told them. They never 402 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 4: seen it, you know. And so that's why this this 403 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 4: documentary is so important. For the first time, they can 404 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 4: get to see who we really are, get to tell 405 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 4: our story by using for us, and when they see 406 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 4: this they will be as proud as well. But at 407 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 4: the same time, you know, when people know who they 408 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 4: truly are and what they truly capable of then that's 409 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 4: when change takes place, you know. So, like I said, 410 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: it's so important, like you said earlier, to tell our story, 411 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 4: because if you leave it up to everybody else, you 412 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: know what we're going to get, all right. 413 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: I thought right there twenty seven after the time that 414 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: Bill wants to join us, he's in Baltimore. He's online too. 415 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: Grand Rise and Billy are on with David Murphy. 416 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 6: One time about the morning. Colin is always say thank 417 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 6: you for this opportunity for us to get information and 418 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 6: give information, thank you for having David on there. I 419 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 6: just want to congratulate David because I was blessed to 420 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 6: be able to see the trailer, and I want to 421 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 6: encourage people that you know, once he released the documentary, 422 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 6: I want, I want people to come out because it's 423 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 6: full of history that we really should know, especially hear 424 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 6: in Barchmore, living in Barchmore, of the great accomplishments that 425 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 6: have come out of Bartimore. So I just didn't want 426 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 6: to miss this opportunity to not be able to call 427 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 6: in and congratulate David and thank you for having David 428 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 6: on the show so that he could share this information 429 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 6: in other people. So again, I just wanted to call 430 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 6: in and say thank you very much. 431 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 4: Hey, Bill, you know, and I want to congratulate you 432 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: as well, because Bill, you know, of course he ain't 433 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 4: gonna mention it, but I will. Bill is showing something 434 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 4: this weekend that's the paksity of us. And it's similar 435 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 4: to a documentary, but he's showing people from back in 436 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 4: and they most of them are no longer whip like 437 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 4: Reverend Wright, Robert, Robbie Clay and so many other people 438 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: that put it into work back in the days and 439 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 4: this is in the nineties and stuff like this. See, 440 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: like I said, people don't realize because, like I said, 441 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 4: we don't get a lot of publiciess, but see we're 442 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 4: constantly putting in Wrooking. So Bill will be showing his 443 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 4: documentary this weekend and so if anybody available in the 444 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: Baltimore come check that out. It's powerful and so you know, 445 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 4: So again I am so grateful to able to do 446 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: something like this. But called I'm gonna just say this 447 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: because I was able to do this, and I had 448 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 4: what you call a blueprint actually takes the same document 449 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 4: and just go about just about any major city and 450 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 4: duplicate it and so that you know all over this. 451 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: Comy, Well, let me jump in here. 452 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: That's that's why I had you out because I'm hoping 453 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: that people listening, if they're in Chicago, Saint Louis, La Detroit, 454 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: if they're in Cape Town, if they're in Port of 455 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: Prince and wherever, they will do the same thing because 456 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: we have to tell our story. We can't leave it 457 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: up to somebody else. You said something key though, David 458 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: and Bill. I think if you call she said something 459 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: really cure that the people, if I young, people know 460 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: who they are. And this is one of the things 461 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: that as equaci as all the time, know thyself. But 462 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: he's talking about ancient Egypt, keem it. But if just 463 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: they know themselves even here, what our answers is their 464 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: grandparents did and what they had to go through to 465 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: do it is so it's just just not just as 466 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: easy as it is today. All the hurdles that all 467 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: the racism they had to fight and we still made it. 468 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: That's what That's what this documented. This is This gives 469 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: them some sort of pride. So I just want to 470 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: thank you to it for doing that. 471 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. And like I say, you know, you 472 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 4: know like I said, called to be straight up about this. 473 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: You know, you know, I'm a strong believe in God, 474 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 4: and you know, and because of the Lady Rolls a pride, 475 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 4: you know, I was aspired to do this and I 476 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 4: consider myself a serviancy. This is not about David mur 477 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 4: This is about us black melan NATed people. And again, 478 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 4: because we didn't have the technology with my father and 479 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: my grandparents wasn't around to do this, and it could 480 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: have been extremely expensive to do these type of things, 481 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: but that's probably why it was never done. But at 482 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: the same time, because of this generation that we have 483 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: the capabilities to do that. And I just want to 484 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: remind everybody this is so crucial. Tell you your story, 485 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 4: your story. If you even had to get on this 486 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 4: journe on your phone or something, you record yourself so 487 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 4: that your children and your children know who you are, 488 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: what were you all about, because you know, not to 489 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: say we all you know, everybody knows. When the elder died, 490 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 4: the whole library dies with them. And so that's why 491 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 4: we had to really start telling our story. And again 492 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 4: I came up in the fifties, sixty and seventy, but 493 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 4: I was truly, truly impressed with the work that they 494 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: did yesterday, truly impressed. 495 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: You know it is it segmenting like entertainment, politics, sports, 496 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: or is it just all together? 497 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 4: How's carding, entertainment, political, social recreation all it's all the 498 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: clue in this thing. And and like I say, just 499 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: like you know, uh, we had a general body the 500 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 4: name of Sam Lacey worked for the AFRO. He was 501 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 4: a historical figure, you know, historical black sports writer. But 502 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 4: this man broke Glass Silton because of his rags. You know, 503 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: he stood up against the powers that be to help 504 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 4: get blacks into certain you know, arabs and sports and stuff. 505 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 4: You know, he spoke out against this kind of stuff. 506 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 5: You know. 507 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 4: And and these people was not only you know boll 508 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 4: but they was very courageous because back in them day, 509 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: you know, they was actually putting their life on the line. 510 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 4: But nevertheless they went forth anyway. 511 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 7: And see, this is kind of thing like I said, 512 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 7: that we need to know because like I say. 513 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 4: And I understand that systems in place, they don't want 514 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 4: us to tell our story and want to keep us, 515 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 4: you know, as a status quote. But you know, uh, 516 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 4: yesterday is yesterday. But you know they're gonna do what 517 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 4: they do. It's time for us to start doing what 518 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: we need to do for us and by us. And 519 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 4: I guarantee you when we people like you call and 520 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: so many of us Bill Gooding and so many of us. 521 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 7: Out there putting in the work. 522 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 4: And then when we start connecting the dots. Uh, it's happening. 523 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 4: And that's another thing too. Uh, people all across this country, 524 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 4: throughout the Deak where are finally coming together. All types 525 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 4: of organizations are linking up to one another. And so 526 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 4: you know, it's happening slowly, but it's coming. 527 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 5: Now. 528 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this this particular documentary, who do 529 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: you think will benefit more than the old heads like 530 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: you and I and Bill or the other young folks 531 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 1: like your grandchildren and folks are in the youngsters are 532 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: in school now, in high school and college. Who do 533 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: you think will benefit the most? 534 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 4: Hearing about our history, I see more of the elders 535 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: gleaned from I mean, it's almost like listening to old 536 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 4: reasons when we start talking about ourselves. That to some 537 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 4: people it just took them down memory laning and they 538 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: recall the days of this, how we came up as 539 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 4: children and things like that. So just you know, it 540 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: just took takes them there. But the young people I 541 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 4: share it with a free dad, a lot of them 542 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 4: haven't seen it as of yet. But based on my 543 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 4: children and the few people that I did show it to, 544 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: they was truly impressed. And I strongly believe that you say, 545 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 4: this one change their whole projectory about life, about being 546 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: who they are, about about living in this particular city. 547 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: And now, you know, based on like I said, because 548 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 4: nobody really told our story, now they get first hand 549 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: to see here something really from us and by us, 550 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: and that's gonna make a world of difference in their life. So, 551 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 4: like you said, if you don't know all, you think 552 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 4: that that we are a drugs dealers and and it's 553 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 4: hopeless the way that you know, the way things look 554 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 4: today is not too cool. But uh but as you say, again, 555 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 4: we have done it before, and guess what we're still 556 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 4: doing it. We got so many people right now putting 557 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 4: in the work right now today. And that's a beautiful 558 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 4: another beautiful thing about this documentary because we talk about yesterday, 559 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: but there will be a host of people who's still 560 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 4: putting in the work that's gonna be speaking in this 561 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 4: in the in the real documentary when it comes out 562 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 4: about what doing today, it ain't just about yesterday, about 563 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 4: what we're doing today, and then that would bring hope 564 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 4: for tomorrow for our young people. So we ain't finished, 565 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: you know, we're still working it. 566 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, a twenty six away from the topic. Let me 567 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: ask you this, David, is it all you know peaches 568 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: and cream? You show it with wants and all because 569 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: we know some negative stuff happening in our community. 570 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 4: Like I say, you know, because I do know mass 571 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: media and seeing Baltimore and just like in current they 572 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 4: see people don't know. And I'm just gonna be straight 573 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: up about this. Media convicts a lot of Black people, 574 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: especially in the political arena, and we tend to believe 575 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 4: whatever the media put out there. People don't know. Entrapments 576 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 4: it and all kinds of setups are taking place when 577 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 4: people outstep their boundary. When you go up and gainst 578 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 4: that old boy system, they have a way of getting 579 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 4: you one way or the other, and they can be 580 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 4: trumped up charges on people. That's why I don't take 581 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 4: too much stocking when they do that to us, because 582 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: people don't know that behind the scene stuff that other 583 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: people do. And so what I try to show people 584 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 4: and not all the next They can get that anywhere. 585 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: But I'm trying to show what we did accomplish and 586 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: they can find out. You know, you know, you want 587 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 4: to hear about all that negative because like can say, 588 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 4: I have no facts about the negative, but I do 589 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: have the facts about the positive things that people do 590 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 4: because it's you know, like I say, we it's documented 591 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 4: and and like I said, it's in records and stuff 592 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 4: like that, and so these are the facts. Even though 593 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 4: some people that was back in their political arenments, back 594 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 4: in them days, some of them even got convicted on stuff. 595 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 4: But then again, uh, even modern day, I've seen so 596 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 4: many people get get fake charges on them. And like 597 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 4: I said, in media, you know, I hate to say 598 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: it like this, but think about this, anybody I know, 599 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 4: anybody and put them in the national recunity news and 600 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: I can slangarize their name. And I heard through a 601 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 4: reliable sort that this person did this day. And would 602 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 4: you believe that half the people will believe. 603 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: Me right and hold up to her Right there, David, 604 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: we got step aside for a few moments and check 605 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: the news. Trafficking weather in a different cities. It's twenty 606 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: four minutes away from the top of the family. Thanks 607 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: for waking up with us. I guess it's David Murdich Murphy. 608 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: He's produced a documentary about black Baltimore and we're going 609 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: to talk more about that. You got questions and I 610 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: got a tweet question for him, and we would do 611 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: all of that after we check the news, traffic, and weather. 612 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: That's next and grind rising family. Thanks for waking up 613 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: with us on this Wednesday morning, or well on this 614 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: Wednesday if you will come up later. We're going to 615 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: speak with doctor A. Doctor A is a traditional medical doctor. 616 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: She's also a holistic doctor as well. So if you've 617 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: got a medical issue and you need some free consultation, 618 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 1: please please take advantage of our expertise. People wait till 619 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: the last minute to call and then you know, they 620 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: hope that somebody who's got the similar issue will call in. 621 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: So please do that. 622 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: And before we speak to doctor A, doctor Benson Cook's 623 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna join. He's a nationally recognized psychologist's done some ground 624 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: breaking work about black health mental health. Speaking of health, 625 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: I got to make this announcement Ramadan Mubark to all 626 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: our Muslim brothers and sisters, and if you're in the 627 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: Nation of Islam. You probably know that Minister Abdul Akbah 628 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: Muhammad made his transition. He was a regular guest here. 629 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: He was the Nation of Islam's international representatives, also Minister 630 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: Farkahan's personal international representative. Somebody may now I know this 631 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: that there are more than one hundred and eighty countries 632 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: that have members of the Nation of Islam, one hundred 633 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: and eighty. I know the brothers in London always listen, 634 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: and I just checked our line. Brothers and sisters in 635 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: jew Free Free the Gambia listening. And why that's important 636 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: is because Alex Haley started building a mosque there and 637 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: he died and Minister far Khan always sent Minister Akabahmahammad 638 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: to finish the rebuilding of that mosque. So I'll just 639 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: shout out to those brothers and sisters in jew Free 640 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: because I know that's probably why they're listening to here. 641 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: But yes, if you're a member of the Nation of Isla, 642 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: I wand know if you're not, if you've heard men before. 643 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: One of the nicest guys out there, he was with 644 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: Minister far Khan back in the days, the Harlem days 645 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: before this split. You know, I don't know if to 646 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: tell you about the history, but he stayed with Minister 647 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: Farrecahon's a close friend of Malcolm and doing all that. 648 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: He stayed as a lieutenant to Minister fire Ghun, and 649 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: now he's made his transition. So I just wanted to 650 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: say that and shout out again our condulcens to his 651 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: family's friends and all the people who knew him in 652 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: the nation. Eight hundred and four or five zero seventy 653 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: eight seventy six, fifteen minutes away for the tom That 654 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: with David Murphy. David's our guest this morning. David has 655 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: a book, a book, a documentary about Black Baltimore. So 656 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: David a treat question I had right before we left tweetter, 657 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: want to know, is there any significance of the black 658 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: women in Black Baltimore. 659 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 4: Of course, quite a few, you know, Like I said, 660 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 4: it's about you know, all of us black people. You know, 661 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 4: it's just not you know, like I say, it's open 662 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 4: to you know, everybody who made some significance. 663 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 7: Like I say, the. 664 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 4: Documentary is only an abalog, so we just showing a 665 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 4: minute head and a minute dead about the individual. But 666 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 4: there's quite a few ladies in there, quite a few. 667 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: Can you share some of the things that that you 668 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: find out that some of our sisters. 669 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 4: Did well, especially in the political in the Venice Arena. 670 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 8: We had. 671 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 4: You know, the Mitchell family and the Murphy families, and 672 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 4: we had the Vertal Welcomes and and and and these 673 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 4: ladies was captain of industry, uh of Victory, Ina Adams 674 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 4: and and and you know, they just put in the 675 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 4: work and they were, you know, breaking glass ceilings, not 676 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 4: only for black people, especially black women too. And so 677 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 4: so everybody, everybody put in the work, and they worked together, 678 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 4: you know, one this this side of that side. We worked. 679 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 4: You know, the way I noticed back in them days 680 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 4: it really was a village. And the men, women and 681 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 4: the children. You know, we all had our roles to 682 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 4: play back in them days, and everybody had responsibility. Something 683 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 4: called them chores and stuff like this. But everybody when 684 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 4: I was coming up, that's the way life was, you know. 685 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: And Dave, what about entertainment did you research it? Show 686 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: you and the clubs? 687 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness, yes, we don't have. You know, Baltimore 688 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 4: was famed. Baltimore was what they used to call the 689 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 4: Chilean circuits. And we had a theater he called the 690 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 4: Royal Theater. That's where the James Browns and the Coasters 691 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 4: and all the great entertainers would come. That's the venue 692 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 4: that they would come to. And up and down all 693 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 4: over Baltimore City there was great night the Springs Club, 694 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 4: I mean we had. I mean, it's so many clubs 695 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 4: and stuff that eateries and stuff that we own back 696 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 4: in the day. And uh and and a lot of 697 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 4: these clubs, man that it was like where business took 698 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 4: place at It was just there all entertainment. You know, 699 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 4: they they that's where they come to the harb Nords, 700 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 4: you know, change different information and things like that. Yeah, 701 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 4: it was a whole I mean, I entertainment was great 702 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 4: back in those days, and and and and and even 703 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 4: I recall that as a little boy going up in 704 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 4: down Pennsylvania, it was nothing like to see a Billy 705 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 4: Howe a day or somebody a great influence back in 706 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 4: those days, you know, walking them down the avenue or something. 707 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 9: You know. 708 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 4: So that's the way it was back then. 709 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And bibe Har Day one of the daughters of Baltimore. 710 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot of entertainers that coming out of Baltimore 711 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: as well, even today. 712 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and and so like I said, and you know, 713 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 4: the reatty thing about what they did yesterday, they still 714 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 4: influenced the young people today and they don't even realize 715 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 4: or sometimes you know the influence that these entertainers had 716 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 4: the doors that they opened. And so yes, you know, so, 717 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 4: like I said, our entertainment industry was real strong in 718 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 4: the Baltimore area back in the day. 719 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about sports twel away from the top out 720 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: because you know, for most of us just remember we 721 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: remember the Baltimore Bullets, Wes onset players like that. 722 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 4: We go back to you know, Wes and them. They 723 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 4: kind of knew in my case they kind of new stools, 724 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 4: but you know, I know they old down. But you 725 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 4: know that was we had, I forget the guy currently 726 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 4: from the the Globe Tritters out of Baltimore, and then 727 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 4: we had I can't think of that, gentlemen. He was 728 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 4: the basketball player, oh man senior moments. Uh Earl the Pearls. 729 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: Right and went on to the Knicks. So yeah, of 730 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: course Earl the Pearl Monroe, Earl Montroe. 731 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, sir, you know, and we had so many 732 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 4: you know from the Basel Arena and uh baseball, we 733 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 4: had the Lenny Moore's Uh, I mean great football players 734 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 4: came from out to Baltimore, out of Baltimore, and now 735 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 4: that did they come out, but they opened up clubs 736 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 4: themselves and it served the communities and stuff. See this 737 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 4: is what this is what I loved about them guys 738 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: back in the day, Lenny Moore and all of these 739 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 4: great guys. Man, they would come back and support the community. 740 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 3: What did you see? 741 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: You know after doing this just because he just he said, 742 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: you just crashed this surface. But what is you see 743 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: is the major difference between back in the day with 744 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: the brothers and sisters of the life in Baltimore back 745 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: in the day as it is today. What things the 746 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: major difference. 747 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 4: Well, the major difference is what I see was first 748 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 4: of all, Uh, I don't know about anybody else, but 749 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 4: I said, I always was told a bunch of lives 750 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 4: about who we are, even from school systems, because I 751 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 4: never the book where we had never said anybody looked 752 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 4: like me or anything like that. 753 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 7: But I didn't know. 754 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 4: Because I used to sell the athro newspapers a little boy. 755 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 4: I just go all over the neighborhoods and I would 756 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 4: see the doctors, the lawyers, the laborers. Everybody went to 757 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 4: work back in them days. You know, you didn't see 758 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 4: a lot of people hanging around. People had jobs in 759 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 4: those days, you know. And and and I would see, uh, 760 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 4: like the steps and stuff. 761 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 10: You know. 762 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 4: Baltimore was famous for the marble steps, you know, and 763 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 4: everybody would get out there and watch the step. The 764 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 4: children would do it to earn a little extra money 765 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. It was really what I consider 766 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 4: a real village. And that's one of the greatest thing 767 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 4: I took away from it because it reminded me of 768 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 4: how powerful we was. And everybody knew people back in 769 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 4: the day. You know, you knew your neighbors, and your 770 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 4: neighbors looked out for you. We had people the elderly 771 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 4: ladies used to look at sitting in the windows, you know, 772 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 4: just watch children. We used to call them nose and 773 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 4: everything when your children because they were telling on us, 774 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 4: you know, and they would tell everything we were doing. 775 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 4: But they were looking out for us, and so that 776 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. If you had a large family back 777 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 4: in them days, people would you know, they if they 778 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 4: had extra clothes or something like that, they would give 779 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 4: it to you. The bakery man would leave if you 780 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 4: knew you had eight or nine children. You know, he'd 781 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 4: drop a bag of bread off to you. Same thing 782 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 4: with the dairy man. You know, so people really really 783 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 4: looked out for one another back in them days. They 784 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 4: even used to have rent parties. If somebody got down 785 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 4: to look behind and there, they would actually would throw 786 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 4: a party to raise the money for the person. 787 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: And but you know what, back then they would correct 788 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: me from But it seems like we had bigger families 789 00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: too back in those days. 790 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, like I said that. Look, my family 791 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 4: was eight. You know, we was considered something like a 792 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 4: large fan. But there was way large fan to twelve 793 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 4: to fifteen. But you know, a small family back in 794 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 4: the day was five children. What happened And it's very 795 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 4: seldom that you see somebody just came one or two 796 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 4: children in the family, very rare. 797 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought about that too, because but the that's nationwide. 798 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: You know, hopefully people are listening to you in different cities. 799 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: You know, we will think about doing the same thing, 800 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: because again it's important that if we don't tell our story, 801 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: somebody else will. And I'm glad that some of the 802 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: young people. I hope when it's completed, you know, you 803 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,800 Speaker 1: get the support of the school district to show this 804 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: in the schools, the public school system in Baltimore, So 805 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: some of these youngsters can see what life was really about, 806 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, and then if they're if they're smart, they'll 807 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: ask the question. There, for the grace of God, go 808 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: I and I've been born in another time in Spain. 809 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'd be there with their answers. And these 810 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: are their grandparents, so kind of saying their answers their 811 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: great grandparents, what they had to go through, and so 812 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: what they're facing now is absolutely nothing to the hurdles 813 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: that our grandparents and great grandparents had to go over. 814 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 4: And I whole hardly agree. And for the first time, 815 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 4: this is what I love about this documentary is, you know, 816 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 4: you know what they call Black history models. They named 817 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 4: free people to Frederick Douglass, you know the roles, you know, 818 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 4: and all of those people just are free people. But 819 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 4: now they're gonna get a real Black history, now, their 820 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 4: history right in their own backyard. Who they really are, 821 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 4: what they really what we really was about. See, the 822 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 4: media didn't cover us in that in that manner, you know, 823 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 4: you know how they did us on televisions and stuff 824 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 4: like that just being locked up and stuff that they 825 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 4: don't even know in school. They didn't tell that to say, 826 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 4: even while I was living in that during the time 827 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 4: it was happening. But you know, if I had known 828 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 4: all of this great stuff that's happening around. We had 829 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 4: social club. We had a thing called the Police Boys 830 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 4: Club when I was coming up, and they was old. 831 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 4: Ask police officers black police officers and man them brothers. 832 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 4: Man really looked out for the I mean the children 833 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 4: in the community. We had the Chick Web Center, you know, 834 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 4: and that's a great story to the check Web Center. 835 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 4: Do you know that was the That's another first in Baltimore. 836 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 4: That was the first recreation center that was actually built 837 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 4: by black people. 838 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: Didn't James Brown Let me ask you this though, David 839 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: didn't James Brown by raders on the first black radio 840 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: station in Baltimore. 841 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 7: In Baltimore, Yes he did. And like I said, it's 842 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 7: so many things, nigga. 843 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 4: You know, what's the name? Oh but Lois Armstrong, the 844 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 4: brown bombas I can't think of his name right now. Yeah, 845 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 4: Chick Web and all of these guys, they all came 846 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 4: to Baltimore to raise fund for that Chick websit a 847 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 4: every major black star in the nation came to Baltimore. 848 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something about Baltimore and us be in the water. 849 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: That's a lot of great talent came out of Baltimore, 850 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: especially entertainment talent, you know. And this is the story 851 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: that we need to teach, show and teach our young people. 852 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, can't call the way all of them. You know, 853 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 4: it was just just go on and on and on 854 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 4: about you know the great times that with the international things, 855 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 4: you know. And but again in some of the schools 856 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 4: that we had, you know, the teachers and you know, 857 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 4: we had black teachers and they would drum it into 858 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 4: you you know, you know back in the day. You 859 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 4: know that that you know, you know even at the 860 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 4: point they would jack you up sometimes. 861 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 11: You know. 862 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 4: That's how seriously was about us getting our education and 863 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 4: trying to make it in this because they knew what 864 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 4: we were going to, know what we was up against. 865 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 4: And again this can restore our mentality because you know, 866 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 4: call in this day and time, we need to have 867 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 4: you know, we had what I called us colonized mindset, 868 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 4: and this is one of the ways that we can 869 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 4: change our mindsets because when the truth is being told 870 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 4: and people find out who they really are and what 871 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 4: they truly capable of doing and not letting mass meet up, 872 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 4: you know, sidetracked them with the fake news that they say. 873 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 4: And for the first time, like I said, i'll children, 874 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 4: and not only that, there's a host of people that 875 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 4: came up in the sixties and said they have no 876 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 4: clue arter this went on as well. 877 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good thing that you did that. David. 878 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: Let's stay right there. We've got to step aside and 879 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: get caught up with the ladies. So trafficing weather in 880 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: our different cities. Also the news in Baltimore, family, you 881 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 1: want to join this conversation. I guess that David Murphy, 882 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 1: especially from Baltimore. He's done a movie documentary I should 883 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: say about Black Baltimore. If you're in a different city, 884 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: please consider doing the same. You know how to reach 885 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: David eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy 886 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: six when we take a phone calls after we check 887 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: the trafficking, weather and the news in our difference bank 888 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: ground Rising family, Thanks for starting your Wednesday with us. 889 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a humpty. We're halfway through the work 890 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: week and I guess right now is David Murphy. David 891 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: Murphy's from the National Black Unity News and he's put 892 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 1: out a documentary that's working on the preliminary documentary about 893 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: Black Baltimore. And David, a question for you that we 894 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: had to turn the break of tweet. I want to 895 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: know about the churches because a lot of these churches 896 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: are very old. Are they featured in this documentary? 897 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 4: Yes, we did. We had some of the great ministers 898 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 4: as well as the churches who were civil rights leaders. 899 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,919 Speaker 4: You know back in the day when the churches work 900 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 4: was the community do with people with That's where they 901 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 4: had the meetings and stuff at vern adoptions. There's so 902 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 4: many great preachers back in the day. Uh, you know, 903 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 4: they was right there on the front line when it 904 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 4: was coming to civil rights movements and things like that. 905 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 4: We had a gentleman there I didn't know. I heard 906 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 4: about it. And this is a guy named Sweet Daddy 907 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 4: Grace to you. I don't know about them, but he 908 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 4: was one powerful preacher back in the day. He was 909 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 4: very flamboyant and stuff like this. So you know, we 910 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 4: had some great courage came from out of Baltimore and 911 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 4: like can say, and uh, we had gained national attention 912 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 4: and uh, but our churches was the backbone of the community. 913 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 4: And see and and also I remember almost all the churches. 914 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 4: They was like our meeting place, you know. And we 915 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 4: had so many marching bands back in our day, and 916 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 4: mostly them was operated out of the churches. And so 917 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 4: the youth had plenty of things to do back in 918 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 4: our time. And so we you know, they kept us 919 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 4: busy and and and and we was very social, you know, 920 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 4: so we well back and we didn't have the cell 921 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 4: phones and all that. Everybody socialized back in them days. 922 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 4: But there was plenty of activities you know that that 923 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 4: adults you know, you know, put up for us, you know, 924 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 4: back in them days. And so you know, even the 925 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 4: school systems man was worth pretty great because we had 926 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 4: a lot of trade schools. I went to a school 927 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 4: called four fifty TV had the carvers and places like that. 928 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 4: We can actually learn trades. 929 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 3: And so it was just just yes, sir, colleges as well. 930 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 4: Well, we had the of course Martin State University and 931 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 4: the Coppins there were two black institutions that that we 932 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 4: came up. And then we had some powerful back in 933 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 4: the day. You know, we didn't have that many high schools, 934 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 4: but we had the Douglass the carvers and dumb bars 935 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 4: and places like that, you know, with most of our 936 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 4: sports people came from out of and entertainers came from 937 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 4: out these same schools. The Thurgood Marshalls went to these 938 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 4: same schools, caf Care, all of them was pretty much 939 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 4: to the same school one ain't e one back in 940 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 4: the day, you know, So there was this so much history, 941 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 4: right undown note right then, you know, right before. 942 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: After the top there moment, Chelda are going to speak 943 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: to psychologist doctor Benson Cookie exprem schools. He's connected to 944 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: the University of District of Columbia u DC. It's a 945 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,760 Speaker 1: scientologists we get to in moment, Charlie. But David, this document, folks, 946 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 1: how can they get a pre screaming? Are is that 947 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: available yet or what's the process left for? 948 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 4: Yes, it is and they can call me at four 949 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 4: four three four five five two three seven three. Now 950 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you that this is one of the 951 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 4: major That's why I was so I'm preciated that, you know, 952 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 4: God handed us down to me. Is because this whole 953 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 4: thing is not just about Black Baltimore. It's about black Chicago, 954 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 4: Black Atlanta, like Los Angeles. We can do it all 955 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 4: that night, you know, for the first time, really tell 956 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 4: our stories. I'm more than willing to collaborate with anyone 957 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 4: who wanted, you know, to tell our story because if 958 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 4: we don't, if our generations don't do, this may be 959 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 4: lost forever. As I said before, when the Oulton dies, 960 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 4: the whole library dies with them, and we down at 961 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 4: a rapid pace. But they're still hoping. There's still time 962 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 4: because not only that, we're bringing our young folkus on 963 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 4: on this campaign, to work with us on this, on 964 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 4: this documentary team. You know, we won't. 965 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 7: We want to get the whole village involved with this thing. 966 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: Oh great, because the young folks they know the new 967 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: technology too, because and make it well produced. Yeah, I 968 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: love that, and you're right. But if this weekend the 969 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: bills you said, Bill has something going this weekend as well, 970 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 1: that you want to mention that before you go. 971 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, it's at the pace there I forget zay. 972 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 4: I think from one to three or something. I'm not sure, 973 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 4: but you can call me again and I can give 974 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 4: you the day and time of Bill's giving a series 975 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 4: of some of the stuff that he went through with 976 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 4: some of the great leaders out of Baltimore. Can they 977 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 4: derived it Clays, the great ministers and the people Eric 978 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 4: Easton's and so many people. They no longer with us today, 979 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 4: but they see, like I said, we've been putting in work, 980 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 4: and that's why it's so important that we must start 981 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 4: telling our story. There's so much information out there, and 982 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 4: I'm just so pleased that now we finally begin to 983 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 4: document ourselves and to tell our stories and to share 984 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 4: with our children and our freuture generations who we really are, 985 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 4: because like I said before, all the stuff that they 986 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 4: got on us is not good and it's not true. 987 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 10: You know. 988 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 1: And David, if folks have the want to contribute to 989 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: as well, they've they've got archives, maybe family photos and 990 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: information from back in the day. 991 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 3: Can they share that with you as well? 992 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the main thing, because that's what we're 993 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,760 Speaker 4: in the process of doing that, and we're still interviewing elders. 994 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 4: We got people men who has whole libraries of information 995 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 4: of all these great people coming to their homes and stuff. 996 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 4: You know, that's the way, whether they sit there and 997 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 4: dealing with people, you know, they come to town and 998 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 4: this I mean, but like I said, we got so 999 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 4: many people like the Roads, Alice Torrente and all these people. 1000 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 4: I mean, they got bosses and bosses of photos from 1001 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 4: back in the day and we're gonna take a lot 1002 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 4: of that stuff and then gonna upload it, you know, 1003 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 4: and stuff like this, and so many people all over Baltimore. 1004 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 4: So we all putting out a shout out for anybody 1005 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 4: who would like to get involved in the documentary to 1006 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 4: give me a call, those in Baltimore and again those 1007 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 4: who all through to d ask for if y'all want 1008 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 4: to do something. And you know, we have a blueprint 1009 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 4: and we can do it really economically, you know, you know, 1010 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,479 Speaker 4: because of the technology. But it's like I said, again, 1011 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 4: this is about us, about us telling our stories. And 1012 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 4: I truly believe when we start finally telling our true story, 1013 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 4: our whole trajectory about who we are and how we 1014 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 4: do things would actually change. Because again I am I was, 1015 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 4: like I said, I was so amazed at so much 1016 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,720 Speaker 4: stuff that was right under my notes, and I didn't 1017 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,839 Speaker 4: have no clue all this stuff was going on until 1018 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 4: I started doing this. And again I said before that 1019 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 4: was the first time. Because there's so much negativity about 1020 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 4: Baltimore that I was hearing and I lived here, but 1021 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 4: this is the first time, like I said, I was 1022 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 4: so proud of being a black Baltimorrow because based on 1023 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 4: the research that I found out who we are and 1024 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 4: what we really did. It made and it made a 1025 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 4: big difference in my life and I can miss what 1026 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 4: it can do to so many others. 1027 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 1: Good for you, David, So give us number a game 1028 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: before we let you go. 1029 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 4: Okay, it's four four to three, four five, five two 1030 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 4: three seven three. Hey, Paul, Brother Paul, I appreciate you 1031 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 4: so much, man, I really do. And again, I just 1032 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 4: want to thank you for this opportunity. I appreciate you 1033 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 4: because you're a true soldier. You're putting out the information 1034 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 4: and let I say, man, just keep doing what. 1035 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 1: You're doing, sir, and you're putting in the work. Thank you, David, 1036 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: and keep us in the loop. Let us know how 1037 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 1: it turns out. 1038 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 3: I sure will, all right, Family nine after the top 1039 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 3: coming up next. 1040 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: As we mentioned, doctor Benson Cook is on deck. Doctor 1041 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 1: Cook is a past National President of the Association of 1042 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: Black Psychologists. Doctor Cook, Grand Rights and welcome back to 1043 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: the program. 1044 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 12: It's an honor to be here. Thank you very much 1045 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 12: for bringing me on. 1046 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: And you know it's been a minute, so just give 1047 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: us a thumbnail sketch of your background before we get 1048 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: into things. 1049 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 12: Oh okay, Well, I'm currently a University of This English 1050 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 12: professor at the University of District of Columbia, past National 1051 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 12: President with the Association of Black Psychologists from two thousand 1052 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 12: and nine to twenty eleven. I've had an opportunity to 1053 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 12: work at a number of institutions of high education and 1054 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 12: very much in the community as well. I originally am 1055 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 12: from Ohio, but I've been pretty much all around. But 1056 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,280 Speaker 12: the thing that brings me to you is the latest 1057 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 12: book that I had an opportunity to co author with 1058 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 12: the colleague of mine, and that book is titled Epignomic 1059 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,280 Speaker 12: Awareness as a Key to Black Mental Health, The Disruptive 1060 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 12: Effects of Not Knowing. And I always have to preface 1061 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 12: I'm not a geneticist, and as I jokingly sometimes say, 1062 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 12: I don't pretend to play one on TV either. However, 1063 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 12: in twenty eleven, when I was finishing my two year 1064 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 12: term as National President of the Association of Black Psychologists, 1065 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 12: I received a call to be a guest host on 1066 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 12: the Diane Reemshaw on National Public Radio and the title 1067 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,240 Speaker 12: of the program was and Criminal Behavior. And the reason 1068 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 12: this occurred was because of investigative reporters for The New 1069 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 12: York Times had originally in nineteen ninety two written a 1070 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 12: story that another investigative reporter brought back up in twenty eleven, 1071 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 12: and the story was in nineteen ninety two that the 1072 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 12: US puts a halt talks tying Jings to crime because 1073 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 12: there was this idea that blacks were genetically predisposed to 1074 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 12: criminal behavior. And then in twenty eleven, the follow up 1075 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,919 Speaker 12: investigative report looked at genetic basis for crime a new look. 1076 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 12: Underlying both investigative reports was a discovery that NIH was 1077 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:54,800 Speaker 12: financing academic conferences that were searching for information that was 1078 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 12: taking an unjustified leap, and that leap that it was 1079 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 12: basically taking was suggesting that blacks were somehow predisposed to 1080 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 12: criminal behavior. This is kind of a pseudo scientific eugenics 1081 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 12: kind of idea that minimized, marginalized, and really put us 1082 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 12: in a way that it pathologized us as a people. 1083 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 12: And so based upon that investigative reporting, based upon the 1084 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 12: opportunity to participate in the interview. I decided I would 1085 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,839 Speaker 12: begin with my colleague to do as much research as 1086 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 12: we could to make sure that anyone who was engaged 1087 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 12: in this idea would recognize that the Association of Black 1088 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,800 Speaker 12: Psychologists was paying attention and they could be at our table, 1089 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 12: but more importantly, we could be at their table as 1090 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 12: well to better understand how they come to these conclusions 1091 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 12: and begin to change that and create a real scientific 1092 00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:01,240 Speaker 12: approach to understanding the role of genetics in this particular context. 1093 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 12: The book, fourteen years in the making, looked at all 1094 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 12: the research that was available. We did what we call 1095 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 12: a meta analysis, where you're looking at quantitative and qualitative 1096 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 12: research that has a lot of data based upon animal studies, 1097 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 12: and research that looks at longitudinal issues that have to 1098 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 12: do with what happened to people in terms of famine, war, genocide, 1099 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 12: all of these kinds of things. And the consequence of 1100 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 12: it was that we uncovered some things that had not 1101 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 12: been spoken about before, and so the book really delves 1102 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 12: into all four hundred eighteen pages of it delves into 1103 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 12: in giving a deeper, richer understanding of what we need 1104 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 12: to recognize now as a psychologist. This became important because 1105 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 12: while we have basic tools that we use to understand 1106 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 12: human behavior. I felt that we needed to add this 1107 00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 12: new tool and so my colleague and I, doctor Skylowood, 1108 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 12: began to do this. And I'm going to give a 1109 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 12: quick shout out if I can, to doctor Ayo Sakai, who. 1110 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 11: Is the. 1111 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 12: Founder and publisher of Universal Right Publication that published the book, 1112 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 12: because being able to have a book like this published 1113 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 12: by a black publisher and a black publishing house was 1114 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 12: very important to making sure that we could get it 1115 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 12: to our community to be able to better understand what 1116 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 12: was going on. 1117 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so fourteen half that time let me interview for 1118 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 1: acond because you know, I'm just what you just said 1119 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: at reminded me of it. Dr Welson when she was here, 1120 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 1: told us about the role of the media play. She says, 1121 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: in any American city, on the evening news, you'll probably 1122 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 1: see something that a black person, usually a black man, 1123 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 1: in cuffs or wanted or arrested, and what that does 1124 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 1: to the psychology of not just the oppressor, but also 1125 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 1: to us because we, as you mentioned, people think we're 1126 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: predisposed to be criminals and the and the role of 1127 00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 1: the media place. 1128 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 3: Can you address that before get into the book. 1129 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you're a previous seeker. Kind of touched 1130 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 12: on some important points related to this in terms of 1131 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 12: understanding the importance. He talked about Baltimore's and really the 1132 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 12: nation having a deeper, richer understanding of our history, because 1133 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 12: our history helps to revive our memory, and that memory 1134 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 12: is really critically important if we want to not be 1135 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 12: controlled by others, and so we have to basically overturn 1136 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 12: efforts to erase our memory. We have to overturn efforts 1137 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 12: to suppress the practices of our culture that are a 1138 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 12: part of our memory. And then we have to begin 1139 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 12: to support those institutionally, those institutions that engage in helping 1140 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 12: us understand what our culture is, what our socialization is, 1141 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 12: so that we can educate our children and have a 1142 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:56,200 Speaker 12: better opportunity to control the situations we live in, to 1143 00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,439 Speaker 12: control our well, to control our information knowledge. Talked about 1144 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 12: educational systems, things of that nature. So what becomes really 1145 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 12: important in terms of what the book addresses is it 1146 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 12: addresses some of the biological issues that are impacted by 1147 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,439 Speaker 12: the pseudoscientific ideas. In other words, if we really begin 1148 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 12: to look at one of the things that became important 1149 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 12: from our study is we recognized that poverty and racism 1150 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 12: can negatively affect or impact epigenetic functioning and accelerate the 1151 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 12: shortening of what when you look at the DNA wrapped 1152 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 12: up into the chromosome and the pieces at the end 1153 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 12: of the chromosomes that keep it together are called telomeres. 1154 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 12: What's important here is that the research there were two 1155 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 12: studies in particular. One study was Black American men in 1156 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 12: twenty fourteen, and the findings literally suggested that racism makes 1157 01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 12: people own. That's important to know, and the lead author 1158 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 12: on that particular study also talked about the same as 1159 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 12: true for women. There was a study in the US 1160 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 12: based upon the study of women's health across the nation 1161 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 12: acronym swans to ba in and they noticed that the 1162 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 12: telemes of black and white middle aged women were compared. 1163 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 12: The results for shocking, Black women were found on average 1164 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 12: to be over seven years more biologically aged than their 1165 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 12: white counterparts, consistent with higher rates of poverty, stress, hypertension, obesity, 1166 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 12: and related conditions. So what this says to us is 1167 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,760 Speaker 12: that the conditions that we often find ourselves in. 1168 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 4: Is really. 1169 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 12: Important to understanding our health. What this also meant was 1170 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 12: that we needed to really begin to combat the idea 1171 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 12: that when we talked about the impact of systemic and 1172 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 12: institutional racism, that we were not just speaking about something 1173 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 12: that we didn't know about, that when we complained or 1174 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 12: had issues with what was happening to us in our lives, 1175 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 12: it was real and a lot of that then took 1176 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 12: us to the conversation of really beginning to address this 1177 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 12: whole social construct of race. And that's important because as 1178 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 12: we began to uncover. 1179 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 1: And doctor Cook hold, I thought right there, we got 1180 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 1: to step aside for a few moments, say this is 1181 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 1: great information you're sharing with us so far, and I 1182 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 1: want you to continue. When we get back family, you 1183 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 1: two can join the conversation with doctor Benson Cook from 1184 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 1: UDC University of the District of Columbia. You can reach 1185 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight 1186 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: seventy six. I wean't take your phone calls. Nextcarding you 1187 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 1: a Wednesday with us, it's a hump day that we're 1188 01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: halfway through the workweek with our guests. That one on 1189 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: top psychologist doctor Benson Cook. He's a co author of 1190 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 1: the book Epigymnemic Awareness. He's got to explain what that 1191 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 1: means as well as a key. It's a black mental health, 1192 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 1: the destructive effects of not knowing. You've seen a lot 1193 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 1: of times they think that because you're black, you're predisposed 1194 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 1: to be a criminal. And he talked about telling as 1195 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 1: we hear Dr B. Well, it's about telling us those 1196 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 1: strings at ask to you, I guess part of your 1197 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 1: DNA that tells you how long you will live. So 1198 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,200 Speaker 1: doctor picking up from there and let us and then 1199 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 1: we'll get into the book. 1200 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 12: Okay, So you said something that's really important, and that 1201 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 12: is to break this down a little bit more. So, 1202 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 12: let me give an example. We know, for example, that 1203 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 12: our DNA contains the instructions for building all the parts 1204 01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 12: of the body. But DNA is only part of the 1205 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 12: story because the DNA is wrapped around these like hisstones, 1206 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 12: just like a spool that you wrap thread around. Okay, 1207 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 12: and both the DNA and the histones are covered with 1208 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 12: these chemical tags. Now that those chemical tags are actually 1209 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 12: what we call epi genome. The epi is a Greek 1210 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 12: word for on top of the genome, on top of 1211 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 12: the genes, and that shapes the physical structure of the genome, 1212 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 12: and it can tightly wrap, making the genes unreadable, or 1213 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 12: it can for the most part, relax making the genes. 1214 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 12: So let's take it to another level to understand it. 1215 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 12: But that basically means is that each of us knows 1216 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 12: as a human being that we have our parents, our 1217 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 12: parents who are responsible for giving birth to us. On 1218 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,840 Speaker 12: the father's side, let's say there may be certain physical 1219 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 12: illnesses like heart disease, cancer. On the mother's side, it 1220 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 12: might be diabetes. Can you figure things like that? Then 1221 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 12: when you look at the offspring, it's not uncommon that 1222 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 12: you will see the offspring but many of these elements 1223 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 12: that they have inherited. However, it's really interesting in twin studies. 1224 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 12: One twin who and everything should be identical. One may 1225 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 12: have the illness that the other doesn't have, so researchers 1226 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 12: kind of look at this to understand what's going on. 1227 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 12: This is where I think the better understanding of what 1228 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 12: the epigenome is about began to become clear, meaning that 1229 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 12: these chemical tags, and this is a very simplistic way 1230 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 12: of thinking about it, act like an on off switch. 1231 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 12: It can cut on or cut off these markers of 1232 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 12: hereditary influence. So for me, this became really important in 1233 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,480 Speaker 12: terms of moving into what the book talks about, because 1234 01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 12: it was recognizing that social events, the things that happen 1235 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 12: outside of us, have a profound impact. So now you 1236 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 12: could see not only did systemic institutional systemic and institutional 1237 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 12: racism impact impact us physiologically, biologically, psychologically, neurologically, neurochemically, but 1238 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:43,880 Speaker 12: it also epigenetically. So this makes it even more important 1239 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 12: for us to address what has happened so that we 1240 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 12: could begin to look at ways of developing strategies that 1241 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 12: can sustain long term wellness. And so the book not 1242 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 12: only gets into the issues that impact us like imminent 1243 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 12: domain lining, restrictive covenants, gentrification, the police goes on, you know, 1244 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 12: police stereotyping, innumaine harassment, medical and psychological misdiagnosis, but we 1245 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 12: could also begin to look at some of these strategies 1246 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:17,520 Speaker 12: around nutrition, around and let's put a pen on nutrition 1247 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 12: for a minute. There are and I oftentimes use myself 1248 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 12: as an example. If I look at my mom and 1249 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 12: my dad and I look at my siblings, clearly my 1250 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 12: siblings are experiencing more of the effects of what they 1251 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 12: inherited from my father and our father and our mother. However, 1252 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 12: I'm very fortunate that I'm not now. It doesn't mean 1253 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,680 Speaker 12: I'm some kind of favorite child. It basically means that 1254 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 12: there were certain things that I paid attention to early 1255 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 12: on that really made a difference. I remember my mom 1256 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,640 Speaker 12: had what we called a diabetic attack when I was 1257 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 12: graduating from college, and I said, you know, what can 1258 01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 12: I do to help? And she said, well, you don't 1259 01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 12: want this. I said, well, what would I I do 1260 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 12: to not get this? She said, don't drink, don't smoke, exercise, 1261 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 12: eat right, get your rest, and don't hang around crazy 1262 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 12: people that stress you out. Now, at the time, I 1263 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 12: wouldn't have thought a whole lot about it, but I, 1264 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 12: you know, got to you know, love my mam, I'm 1265 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 12: gonna do as you say it. At the same time, 1266 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 12: if she was still alive, and she's not because of 1267 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 12: the illnesses that impacted her and her siblings, and the 1268 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 12: same with my father and his siblings, I would say 1269 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,640 Speaker 12: that's the core of what I've been able to better understand. 1270 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 12: So looking at the role that nutrition plays is critically important, 1271 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 12: absolutely critically important. And so another way of kind of 1272 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 12: breaking this down so that it becomes simple to understand 1273 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 12: is that while we know that there are foods that 1274 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 12: improve mental health, like you know, foods that are high 1275 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 12: in vitamin DTA help protection of serotonin which impacts mood, 1276 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 12: or foods that are higher in magnesium that help it. 1277 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 12: Anxis my specialty is major depression. That's important. At the 1278 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 12: same time, we know that foods that are grown and 1279 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 12: harvested in factories are foods that are composed of artificial duyes, preservatives, 1280 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 12: and synthetic nutrients, and that's not healthy for you. We 1281 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 12: know that sugar is related to inflammation at the cellular level, 1282 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,760 Speaker 12: and its associated with not only the increased risk of depression, 1283 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 12: but also Alzheimer's disease. So now we begin to look 1284 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 12: at well, we know that I remember I was doing 1285 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 12: presentations while back when somebody said, why do I keep 1286 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 12: calling it food? Does this the desert didn't do it 1287 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,720 Speaker 12: to us? I said, okay, let's call it food and security. Then, 1288 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 12: So communities that have food insecurity because they don't have 1289 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 12: nonprocessed foods easily, in other words, the only foods that 1290 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,639 Speaker 12: are available or processed foods they do not have access 1291 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,640 Speaker 12: to a close walk to a store where they have 1292 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 12: homegrown foods or foods that are more healthy, and so 1293 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 12: as a consequence of that, they end up impacting the 1294 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 12: epigeno meta level where they inherit the issues that create 1295 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 12: to poor help. And so it's really important to understand 1296 01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,680 Speaker 12: that this is the link that when you begin to 1297 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 12: look at the role of systemic and institutional racism that 1298 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 12: creates these barriers in these boundaries, it locks us, as 1299 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:29,599 Speaker 12: a group that may be underserved, underrepresented, low wealth into 1300 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 12: situations where we are having more challenges maintaining our health. 1301 01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,360 Speaker 12: But yet we get pathologized for that as though we 1302 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 12: are not, as they quote say, lifting ourselves by our bootsteps. 1303 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 12: But it's much more involved in that. So the book 1304 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 12: talks about the things that we could begin to do. 1305 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 12: Back in the day, it was not uncommon, especially when 1306 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,600 Speaker 12: you're looking at the migration of black folks from the 1307 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 12: south to the north, to the east to the west. 1308 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,160 Speaker 12: People have gardens either in their backyard on their front porch. 1309 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,519 Speaker 12: In other words, we recognize the imports of doing for self. 1310 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 12: Now there's a greater reliance on the community stores. And 1311 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 12: when I say community stores, I should probably say the 1312 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 12: industrial locations to give us these processed foods, and we 1313 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,560 Speaker 12: have to recognize some of the abilitary's effects associated with that. 1314 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 12: So when you think about the epigenome, we're thinking about 1315 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 12: the possibility that if we have and this is why 1316 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 12: the second part of the book the disruptive effects of 1317 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 12: not knowing. If we're not aware of the things that 1318 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,680 Speaker 12: we can do nutritionally to turn things around, then we 1319 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 12: run into problems another And again, as I was listening 1320 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:45,160 Speaker 12: to your earlier speaker talking about Baltimore, we looked at 1321 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 12: the impact of toxic environments, and in particular, there were 1322 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 12: studies that were done in Baltimore where you looked at 1323 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 12: an increase of violent crime, school suspension, given out attention, 1324 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 12: adult incarceration, and a lot of that had to do 1325 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:04,679 Speaker 12: with a lot of schools and houses located near air pollution, 1326 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 12: water pollution, you know, dump sites, and things of that nature. 1327 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:13,559 Speaker 12: So again when you look about you know, the redlyning 1328 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,760 Speaker 12: and all of these things that have happened, it had 1329 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 12: a profound impact on our ability to be aware of 1330 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:27,080 Speaker 12: how the things that are happening around us have a profound, 1331 01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 12: delitarious effect on our health and our well being. As 1332 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 12: a psychologist, one of the things that well, the Association 1333 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,559 Speaker 12: of Black Psychologists was created in nineteen sixty eight as 1334 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 12: a way of defining our reality, because the American Psychological 1335 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 12: Association at that time was not really engaged in addressing 1336 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,600 Speaker 12: the issues that we recognized had a profound impact on 1337 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 12: our health and our well being. However, it was really 1338 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:59,440 Speaker 12: interesting in October of twenty twenty one they finally acknowledged 1339 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 12: their role in promoting, perpetuating, and failing to challenge racism, 1340 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 12: racial discrimination, and human hierarchy in the US, in other words, 1341 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,880 Speaker 12: the reasons that we would papologize. And so it becomes 1342 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 12: really important, and the book talks about this, that we 1343 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 12: recognize that the issues were not just limited to how 1344 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 12: we were psychologically, physiologically, biologically, neurologically, neurochemically, it was also epiggnomically. 1345 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 12: And that makes it much more imperative that we began 1346 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 12: to address all of these issues that look at not 1347 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 12: just what happens to us when we're living, but how 1348 01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 12: it affects us in terms of intergenerational changes and transgenerational 1349 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,920 Speaker 12: So in other words, the things that happened to our 1350 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 12: ancestors have had and continue to have a profound impact 1351 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 12: on us. However, there are things that we can do, 1352 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,720 Speaker 12: and so the book really begins to address many of 1353 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 12: the things that we could do, because when you begin 1354 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 12: to really look at all of this. In the final analysis, 1355 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,160 Speaker 12: doctor webin I indicate that if trauma can be passed 1356 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 12: down from generation to generation, so too can the healing. 1357 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,080 Speaker 1: All right, old that fought right there twenty eight away 1358 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 1: from the top of doctor Cook DoD to cook it 1359 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,960 Speaker 1: explain how that that trauma is passed down from one 1360 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 1: generation to the other. Is it like if your parents 1361 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 1: have a kidney disease, you probably have kidney issues as well, 1362 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,640 Speaker 1: or diabetes you can pass it on. How does the 1363 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,560 Speaker 1: trauma is it the same? Is that passed on the 1364 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 1: same way? 1365 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,559 Speaker 12: Yeah, So the way that I understood, they're okay, trying 1366 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,320 Speaker 12: to think of the simplest way to understand it. The 1367 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 12: simplest way to understand it is that the genome has 1368 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:47,360 Speaker 12: passed from parents to their offspring and from sales when 1369 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,760 Speaker 12: the sales divide to their next generation. Much of the 1370 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:54,519 Speaker 12: epigenome is reset when parents pass their genomes to their offspring. However, 1371 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,080 Speaker 12: under some circumstances, some of the chemical tags on the 1372 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 12: DNA and histones of eggs and sperm may be passed 1373 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,120 Speaker 12: on to the next generation. So when sales divide, often 1374 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,840 Speaker 12: much of the epigenome has passed on to the next 1375 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 12: generation of cells, helping the cells remain specialized. So for example, 1376 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 12: if you have a man, for example, who has a history, 1377 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 12: especially in his early years, of a large alcohol consumption, 1378 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:28,080 Speaker 12: smoking things like this, it is encoded in the sperm 1379 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:35,639 Speaker 12: and passed on so that when it impregnates the woman, 1380 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 12: she has this from demand. Okay, and that then impacts 1381 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 12: what the offspring's health will be. And that's intergenerational. If 1382 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 12: this continues, then it has an impact transgenerationally. Let's think 1383 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 12: of a generation as every thirty years. Okay, so when 1384 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:59,519 Speaker 12: we look at each generation, many families can retrace. In fact, 1385 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 12: when they go to we didn't just say oh yeah 1386 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,880 Speaker 12: you got that. Oh yeah that uncle so and so, 1387 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 12: Grandpa so and so had that. Yeah, I hear great 1388 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 12: grandpa had that, great grandma had that. So these are 1389 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:15,439 Speaker 12: things that we now wanted to discuss in the book. 1390 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,160 Speaker 1: Well hold on, let me know for a second, though 1391 01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,760 Speaker 1: doctor Cook does it does it does sometimes just skip 1392 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,840 Speaker 1: a generation to skip a group and then hit you 1393 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,560 Speaker 1: back because maybe you don't know your great grandparents have 1394 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 1: these these issues and the diabetes. So all the kidney 1395 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 1: issues stuff that you know impacts our community quite a lot. 1396 01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,760 Speaker 1: And then your parents didn't have, but your grandparents had 1397 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 1: or your great grandparents. Does it ever do that with 1398 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:41,840 Speaker 1: all these other the trauma issues. 1399 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 12: And this is why again I mentioned those earlier studies 1400 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 12: in the sense that there are things that we can 1401 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:54,760 Speaker 12: do to create a change and how our DNA is 1402 01:15:54,960 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 12: read okay, or how it is activated. So again twin 1403 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 12: studies focuses on this in terms of looking at how 1404 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 12: two identical twins one is healthy and one is not well? 1405 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 12: Why is the one not healthy with something that is 1406 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 12: part of a genetic predisposition? And part of it is 1407 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,120 Speaker 12: because there are things that one can do in terms 1408 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,559 Speaker 12: of and I mentioned just to one thing. There's another 1409 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,560 Speaker 12: thing is how to manage stress in the environment. So 1410 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 12: if you look at nutrition and the row nutrition plays, 1411 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,880 Speaker 12: you look at how we can effectively learn how to 1412 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,240 Speaker 12: manage stressors in our life. Those are two areas that 1413 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 12: have been studied extensively for exam for example, when you 1414 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,439 Speaker 12: look at the famine studies that we looked at, clearly 1415 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 12: the Dutch famine that occurred during World World War two 1416 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,800 Speaker 12: was probably one of the better documented ones. When you 1417 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,679 Speaker 12: look at that, you see that, Okay, there were illnesses, 1418 01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 12: physical illnesses and then mental illnesses like schizophrenia that the 1419 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 12: people suffered, their immediate children suffered that. But then the 1420 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 12: question is if the parent who experienced it, the child 1421 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 12: who was in that same environed experience it, how do 1422 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 12: you explain it for the offspring that their other offspring 1423 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,599 Speaker 12: who didn't experience have some of the same problems. 1424 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 1: Okay, and hold though right there you're bowling down. Somebody's 1425 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 1: out right. And now doctor Cook family, this is doctor 1426 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,599 Speaker 1: Bench and Cook one of our top psychologists. And interesting 1427 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,880 Speaker 1: conversation here, what do you think do you think we're 1428 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 1: predisposed for violence and all this other stuff? This is 1429 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,400 Speaker 1: why they study does in this new book that he's 1430 01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:35,720 Speaker 1: got out, and we'll talk to it more. But we 1431 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,000 Speaker 1: got to step asund and get caught up with the ladies' news, 1432 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,320 Speaker 1: trafficking weather in that different cities at twenty four minutes 1433 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,640 Speaker 1: away from the top of the hour. You want to 1434 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 1: speak to doctor Cook, reach out to us at eight 1435 01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,040 Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and 1436 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:48,760 Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls after we check the news. 1437 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 1: That's next and grund Rising family. I thanks for waking 1438 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 1: up with us on this Wednesday morning. A wellness wedding, 1439 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,880 Speaker 1: if you will. We're dealing with the male aspect of 1440 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 1: it and later coming up later, we're going to do 1441 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,880 Speaker 1: with the physical aspect of wellness through the voice of 1442 01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,360 Speaker 1: doctor A doctor A is a natural pathic doctor, also 1443 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 1: a traditional doctor. So if you've got a health challenge, 1444 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 1: a health issue, or somebody you know who does, please 1445 01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,920 Speaker 1: please don't be bashfor you don't have to use your 1446 01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,320 Speaker 1: real name, but take advantage of her expertise. You try 1447 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,360 Speaker 1: speaking to a doctor these days now how long it 1448 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:19,479 Speaker 1: takes to get an appointment and when you do, it's 1449 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 1: usually five or ten minutes. Also, before we go back 1450 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,640 Speaker 1: to doctor Cook though, I got to offer our condolences 1451 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 1: to the family of Minister Abdul Akbah Muhammad. He was 1452 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,599 Speaker 1: the Nation of Islam's international representative. He was like Marco Rubio, 1453 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,320 Speaker 1: if you will, for the nation. He represented the Minister 1454 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 1: far Gun in the nation. The nation has more than 1455 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,599 Speaker 1: one hundred is in more than one hundred and eighty 1456 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,400 Speaker 1: countries across the globe, so that was his job. He 1457 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,160 Speaker 1: was one of our regular guests here and one of 1458 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 1: the nicest persons you could ever meet. Minister Akabahm Mohamed. 1459 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 1: He started with Minister Farkhn in New York and when 1460 01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 1: so as you know the history of the nation, when 1461 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,320 Speaker 1: they split up and he was tight with Malcolm and 1462 01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 1: he went with Minister far Ghn. Well he made his transition. 1463 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 1: So again condulcens to his daughters and also all the 1464 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,920 Speaker 1: members of the Nation of Islam, and also Ramadam Mubar 1465 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,240 Speaker 1: for Muslim brothers as well. Anyway, let's go back to 1466 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,720 Speaker 1: doctor Cook. Doctor Cook, I'll let you finish your thought 1467 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 1: and that because you also what I like about your book, 1468 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,160 Speaker 1: you come with solutions to what we can do. So 1469 01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 1: I'll let you finish your thought and then tell us 1470 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,880 Speaker 1: about some of the things we can do if we 1471 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,599 Speaker 1: if this is a and it may be a problem 1472 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 1: in many of our families that we don't know about, 1473 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,360 Speaker 1: or if we talk to our grandparents or our parents 1474 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,759 Speaker 1: and you know, and they've had kidney problems or diabetic problems, 1475 01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,320 Speaker 1: and that means we're predisposed. My question to you, if 1476 01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,640 Speaker 1: the family members or criminals, that means we predisposed if 1477 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,559 Speaker 1: they were super athletes, and we predisposed to be great athletes. 1478 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 12: Your response, Okay, you mentioned athletes. Let me just go 1479 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,679 Speaker 12: back to a point I made earlier, which is really important. 1480 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 12: For example, in many ways, but the Association of Black 1481 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 12: Psychologists has done, among other things, is to really find 1482 01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 12: ways to liberate the African mind. Are African American character And. 1483 01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 1: Oh, I hope we have a lost doctor Cook. Kevin 1484 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Ken you check us if we the doctor Cook's line 1485 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 1: job fourteen away from the top of the our family. 1486 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:15,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 1487 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 1: And well, Kevin just said, let me just tell a 1488 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:21,240 Speaker 1: little bit more about minister our Dull akbah Mohammad. He was, 1489 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, he was from New York with Minister 1490 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,599 Speaker 1: Farco and mister Farcon was in charge of the Temple 1491 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 1: number seven. Back then it was called Temple the number seven. 1492 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,120 Speaker 1: Back then the Nation of Islam were called black Muslims. 1493 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 1: Now it's a mosque number seven, and minister Farcard changed 1494 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,679 Speaker 1: all of that. And he was telling his stories about 1495 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,360 Speaker 1: with Malcolm that when Malcolm came to town, there was 1496 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,680 Speaker 1: so the crowds were so large, had a movie from 1497 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: Harlem to Midtown Manhattan, the Manhattan Center, that so many 1498 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,960 Speaker 1: people showed up. But he decided to stay with minister 1499 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 1: fire count so and he made his transition a couple 1500 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 1: of days ago. So again our condulcens to his family. 1501 01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Cook, we got you back, so I'll let you 1502 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:00,519 Speaker 1: feel your thought. 1503 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,639 Speaker 12: Yes, okay. So my point is that in the book 1504 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,640 Speaker 12: there's a piece that we really wanted to highlight, and 1505 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 12: that is the social construct of race. In other words, 1506 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 12: a lot of the conflation, the confusion, the the lame, 1507 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:19,439 Speaker 12: the skewing of the research data that pathologized us has 1508 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:24,760 Speaker 12: to be addressed to reveal to us that a lot 1509 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,479 Speaker 12: of what we've been accused of can be real because 1510 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,320 Speaker 12: race is not biological. It is a social construct that 1511 01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,880 Speaker 12: was created to control. And the book kind of looks 1512 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:41,679 Speaker 12: at some of the earlier pseudoscientific ways in which people 1513 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 12: did this, like Dropdomania. I don't know if you've ever 1514 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 12: heard of that, but back in the eighteen hundreds there 1515 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,679 Speaker 12: was a physician Sam of Cartwright who basically was saying 1516 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:55,320 Speaker 12: that the idea that we wanted to be free from 1517 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,479 Speaker 12: enslavement meant that we had a mental illness. Okay, now 1518 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 12: to move that forward, you mentioned something about sports back 1519 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:08,519 Speaker 12: in twenty twenty I think it was twenty twenty one. 1520 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 12: The scientific American had an report the NFL race Norming 1521 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,920 Speaker 12: is an afterlife of slavery, and what it said basically 1522 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:22,160 Speaker 12: was a situation that lawsuits that African American players were 1523 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,799 Speaker 12: making in order to get help benefits was not being allowed. 1524 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:31,240 Speaker 12: In particular, black former players will automatically assumed through this 1525 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:37,200 Speaker 12: statistical manipulation called race norming, trying to make race biological 1526 01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 12: when it's a social construct, to have started with worse 1527 01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,519 Speaker 12: cognitive functioning than their white former players. As a result, 1528 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 12: if a black former player and a white former player 1529 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,800 Speaker 12: received the exact same raw scores and a battery of 1530 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,599 Speaker 12: tests that were designed to measure their current cognitive functioning, 1531 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,680 Speaker 12: their ability to think in reason, and all of that, 1532 01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,759 Speaker 12: the black player was presumed to have suffered less impairment 1533 01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,160 Speaker 12: and as therefore, was less likely to qualify for compensation. 1534 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,920 Speaker 12: So here you have it that they're saying the brains 1535 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,760 Speaker 12: were different. Again, that's part of that pseudoscientific idea, But 1536 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:14,120 Speaker 12: it also got into how when we think about how 1537 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,759 Speaker 12: our young black boys and young black men were treated 1538 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,680 Speaker 12: by police, there were studies that showed that there was 1539 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,080 Speaker 12: this in the social construct of race, just kind of 1540 01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 12: making a superhumanization bias that they would have about us. 1541 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,000 Speaker 12: So you got to put your knee on the neck, 1542 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,360 Speaker 12: you got to choke them out, you gotta be the mixture, 1543 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,160 Speaker 12: you got to shoot them more because these people are different. 1544 01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,120 Speaker 12: And the studies go on, even to the point of 1545 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 12: looking more recently in the past five years now, one 1546 01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 12: of the tests that they used to do to determine 1547 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,760 Speaker 12: kidney functioning had to change because they were basic it 1548 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,360 Speaker 12: on this idea again social construct or face, where you 1549 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,439 Speaker 12: know they have more muscle mass blah blah blah blah blah, 1550 01:23:55,200 --> 01:24:00,880 Speaker 12: and basically we're giving a test with a different data 1551 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,880 Speaker 12: set assessment for blacks. So you couldn't qualify for a 1552 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:10,000 Speaker 12: kidney transplant, you couldn't qualify for certain services based upon 1553 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 12: this pseudoscientific idea. So part of what the book really 1554 01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 12: wanted to address was how and understanding that it created 1555 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 12: even more problems with respects to understanding the bodies functioning 1556 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:28,200 Speaker 12: from an epigenomic perspective. So it was saying, as we 1557 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:32,880 Speaker 12: look at our mental health and our physical health, we 1558 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:38,680 Speaker 12: must not limit ourselves to just understanding what's happening physiologically 1559 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 12: and psychologically and biological and neurologically we also have to 1560 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:46,120 Speaker 12: look at the epigeno. So the body is marvelously built 1561 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 12: and it does what it's supposed to do. But when 1562 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:52,479 Speaker 12: people try to take the actions of what the body 1563 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:58,320 Speaker 12: does and superimpose upon it these pseudoscientific, eugenic like ideas, 1564 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 12: then that's bad. And so the book basically gets into 1565 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 12: the disruptive effects of not knowing that and then looking 1566 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,800 Speaker 12: at what we can do in terms of recognizing the 1567 01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,719 Speaker 12: impact of toxic environment, recognizing the impact of proper nutrition, 1568 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,639 Speaker 12: recognizing the impact you have someone coming on king about 1569 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:19,919 Speaker 12: holistic medicines, you know, looking at that, Recognizing the importance 1570 01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,479 Speaker 12: of social support systems that are culturally relevant. These are 1571 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,080 Speaker 12: all of the things that we wanted to address in 1572 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,519 Speaker 12: the book that to our understanding, had not been addressed before, 1573 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 12: based upon the fourteen years of work that Dr Web 1574 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,960 Speaker 12: and I put into writing this. And when I say 1575 01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,360 Speaker 12: the book was fourteen years in the making, it was 1576 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:44,519 Speaker 12: built upon having done journal articles, news journal articles, book chapters, 1577 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,600 Speaker 12: presentations and the like over that period of time, so 1578 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,120 Speaker 12: that we could make sure that we were collecting everything 1579 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,320 Speaker 12: that we could to speak to this issue and really 1580 01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,800 Speaker 12: ground it in a way that people would be able 1581 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,840 Speaker 12: to have a betterunderstanding and improved insight into ways to 1582 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,960 Speaker 12: maintain optimum mental health. 1583 01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 1: Ate away from the toffee, doc, Can you can you again, 1584 01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:13,599 Speaker 1: you know, explain what epigename is, I mean messing it up, 1585 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,280 Speaker 1: pronouncing it. Can you explain what that is for the 1586 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:15,840 Speaker 1: late comers? 1587 01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:22,439 Speaker 12: Yeah, okay. So the epigenome is the chemical tags that 1588 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 12: lay on top of the DNA, which is called the 1589 01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:34,760 Speaker 12: genome that when they either wrapped tightly, that's like an 1590 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:39,160 Speaker 12: on offs which is cutting access off. When it is 1591 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 12: relaxes and opens up, it makes the DNA more readable. 1592 01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:47,240 Speaker 12: And so what becomes important is events outside of us 1593 01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:51,400 Speaker 12: like stress, our ability or inability to cope with it, nutrition, 1594 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:57,120 Speaker 12: eating the healthy things that enhance our livelihood. Those fact 1595 01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,400 Speaker 12: those kinds of factors can have a profound impact. At 1596 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,280 Speaker 12: the same time. One of the things that I said 1597 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,840 Speaker 12: that also can have a profound impact was based upon 1598 01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 12: two studies that I mentioned, and one study basically showed 1599 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:14,160 Speaker 12: that poverty and racism negatively impact the epigenome at the 1600 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:20,280 Speaker 12: same time of poverty, stress, hypertension, obesity, and other related 1601 01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,360 Speaker 12: health conditions. So systemic and institution and racism are real 1602 01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 12: and it's not something like, we're not like they say, oh, 1603 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,040 Speaker 12: you need to just lift us up on bio on bootstraps. 1604 01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:29,439 Speaker 10: We do that. 1605 01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:34,640 Speaker 12: We've done that even without having boosts or strengths. You know, 1606 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,400 Speaker 12: that's an idiom that they created to kind of throw 1607 01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,960 Speaker 12: us off. My point being that we have to become 1608 01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:46,440 Speaker 12: more aware of what's happening to us, not just generationally, 1609 01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 12: but intergenerationally and transgenerationally to begin to come up with 1610 01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,240 Speaker 12: solutions that can sustain us in our future. 1611 01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:54,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1612 01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,599 Speaker 1: But some people that I listen to this, especially white folks, 1613 01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,360 Speaker 1: will say that is suit of scientists, that you creating 1614 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:07,320 Speaker 1: excuses for black people, the criminals and the rest. I 1615 01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:08,160 Speaker 1: know you want to get in. 1616 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,400 Speaker 12: So here's the doctor vitt I say, far of the 1617 01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,479 Speaker 12: eighteen pages, if you want to have a debate on this, 1618 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,880 Speaker 12: the first thing is have you read the citations? And 1619 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,120 Speaker 12: they say, yeah, well, have you read the references to 1620 01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 12: the citations? Because you have about eighty pages and like 1621 01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:28,120 Speaker 12: maybe the size of the print is probably seventh fonts. 1622 01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 12: We got about eighty pages of literally over a thousand references. 1623 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,600 Speaker 12: And if you still have want to debate after that, 1624 01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,080 Speaker 12: have you read the footnotes at the end? Have you 1625 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,400 Speaker 12: or within the text and the citations for the footnotes, 1626 01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:46,800 Speaker 12: and after that. My only perspective is this, if you've 1627 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,920 Speaker 12: done all of those things you say, you read the book, 1628 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,439 Speaker 12: you read the citations, you read the footnotes, you read 1629 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,680 Speaker 12: the references, then I can try to go on my 1630 01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:00,479 Speaker 12: rododex and find somebody who can offer some psychological therapy 1631 01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,719 Speaker 12: for you to help you deal with what, however, ails 1632 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,960 Speaker 12: you because you don't want to deal with the facts 1633 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 12: of science. 1634 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,479 Speaker 1: Right, and a lot of people don't believe in science. 1635 01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,880 Speaker 1: It's sad about that. Listen, we got to step uside 1636 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,840 Speaker 1: and get caught up with the traffic and whether or 1637 01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:16,680 Speaker 1: not different cities. When we come back, though, can you 1638 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,080 Speaker 1: give us a you know, give us a short version 1639 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:23,439 Speaker 1: of how strategies so we can sustain long term wellness. 1640 01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate it if you could do that for us family. 1641 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 1: I guess it's doctor Benson Cook. I mean, this stuff 1642 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,880 Speaker 1: is really really deep. If you got a question, reach 1643 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,640 Speaker 1: out to us real quick at eight hundred four or 1644 01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,720 Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six, and we'll taket phone 1645 01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:37,880 Speaker 1: calls after we check the traffic and weather, not different cities. 1646 01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,839 Speaker 1: That's next, and Grand Rising family. Welcome to another wellness Wednesday, 1647 01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,920 Speaker 1: if you will morement Talia, We're going to speak with 1648 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,479 Speaker 1: doctor A. Doctor A is a traditional medical doctor and 1649 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,439 Speaker 1: she's also a holistic doctor as well. And many of 1650 01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,080 Speaker 1: you wait to the last minute to call in and 1651 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:55,000 Speaker 1: hope somebody has the same aimment or same issue that 1652 01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:56,680 Speaker 1: you do, so you don't have to call him. But 1653 01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,680 Speaker 1: don't be bashful, take advantage of our expertise. But let's 1654 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,519 Speaker 1: with doctor Benson Cook, a psychologists, and we're talking about 1655 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,880 Speaker 1: why gene awareness of gene expression is vital to our 1656 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,439 Speaker 1: health and mental health as well. He says that you 1657 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,360 Speaker 1: have some strategies to sustain long term wellness, can you 1658 01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:12,080 Speaker 1: share those with us? 1659 01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:12,559 Speaker 3: Real quick? 1660 01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, just a real click, I guess. In closing, I 1661 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:19,840 Speaker 12: say it's about becoming the whole person and the ultimate 1662 01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,479 Speaker 12: objective is to really force a more truthful rendition of 1663 01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:27,960 Speaker 12: the human experience, and in doing so, it helps us 1664 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:32,160 Speaker 12: to recognize that there are things outside of us that 1665 01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,920 Speaker 12: have an impact on what's going on inside of us, 1666 01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,120 Speaker 12: all the way down to the epigen ums, and that 1667 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:43,360 Speaker 12: we can, as I stated earlier, doctor Webini describe how 1668 01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:48,400 Speaker 12: in understanding what trauma is and how Understanding how trauma 1669 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:51,400 Speaker 12: impacts us at that level, and understanding that it has 1670 01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:56,479 Speaker 12: passed down generation to generation. The same thing is true 1671 01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:00,519 Speaker 12: for the healing. And so ultimately, if we look at 1672 01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,479 Speaker 12: a truthful rendition about the human experience and the things 1673 01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,920 Speaker 12: that we can do, we can begin to create the 1674 01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,120 Speaker 12: kind of change that we want to see. And a 1675 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,840 Speaker 12: lot of it takes place with being aware of our 1676 01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:16,400 Speaker 12: environment that we live in. Toxic environments have a profound 1677 01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,600 Speaker 12: impact on our health. Being aware of the nutrition what 1678 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,880 Speaker 12: we take into our system, Understanding what we could do 1679 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,800 Speaker 12: to begin to create or define our reality about what 1680 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,799 Speaker 12: we eat when we don't live in communities that support 1681 01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:33,680 Speaker 12: good health. Understanding how to effectively manage stress, Recognizing that 1682 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:34,479 Speaker 12: in many. 1683 01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,600 Speaker 7: Ways we have to find ways to. 1684 01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,519 Speaker 12: Engage in those social support systems that are culturally relevant, 1685 01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:47,799 Speaker 12: be it the church, be it demoscia, be it social 1686 01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:53,200 Speaker 12: support groups and things of that nature. Those opportunities provide 1687 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:57,840 Speaker 12: us with a way to achieve harmony, balance, authenticity, and 1688 01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,800 Speaker 12: cultural awareness about the environment in which we live. 1689 01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:01,919 Speaker 9: And so the book. 1690 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,000 Speaker 12: Begins to point out a subject that had not been 1691 01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:08,120 Speaker 12: put together in the way that doctor webin I did, 1692 01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:12,360 Speaker 12: and that is recognizing how we begin by understanding the 1693 01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:13,680 Speaker 12: power of the epigeno. 1694 01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,160 Speaker 1: The title of the book and how can we get 1695 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:18,000 Speaker 1: a copy of the book. 1696 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:24,160 Speaker 12: The title of the book, Epignomic awareness as a key 1697 01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:26,920 Speaker 12: to Black normal health, The destructive effects of not knowing. 1698 01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:32,840 Speaker 12: The publishing companies Universal Right Publication I mentioned earlier. Doctor 1699 01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:37,200 Speaker 12: Ayosakai is the founder and publisher. So you can go 1700 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,400 Speaker 12: online Universal Right Publications U N I, D E. R. S. R. 1701 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 12: WRIT Publication. You can get it there or is available 1702 01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:49,960 Speaker 12: on any of the other locations Amazon, Barnes, and Noble, 1703 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:56,160 Speaker 12: you know, you name it. It's out there and came 1704 01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,479 Speaker 12: out in twenty twenty five, so definitely it is available 1705 01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,160 Speaker 12: you can access it. 1706 01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:05,240 Speaker 1: Seems like a fascinating study. I think we haven't even 1707 01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,479 Speaker 1: scratched the surface of the issue, you know, just just 1708 01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:11,880 Speaker 1: just but what you've just said. So we got to 1709 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,680 Speaker 1: have you back, and because I want to hear more 1710 01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,840 Speaker 1: about solutions, you know, because I keep hearing people say, well, 1711 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, diabetes runs in my family, so I got 1712 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,479 Speaker 1: to you know, I expect to be diabetic. On the 1713 01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,960 Speaker 1: health side, we talk about that. It's good that the 1714 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,200 Speaker 1: other folks say that we're predisposed to be criminals, and 1715 01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,680 Speaker 1: you defunk that, but help us also a debunk the 1716 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,840 Speaker 1: issue if you're predisposed to have diabetes or kidney problems 1717 01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,920 Speaker 1: because your parents have that or grandparents had that. So 1718 01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,439 Speaker 1: we'll come back thought, let's let's flesh that out more. 1719 01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,800 Speaker 12: Okay, And again one of the things I could do 1720 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:47,600 Speaker 12: in coming back is to focus on key studies so 1721 01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:52,360 Speaker 12: that it can answer the question by giving you samples 1722 01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,280 Speaker 12: of what people have had and what people have done. 1723 01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,400 Speaker 12: There's some amazing studies that we looked at that really 1724 01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,439 Speaker 12: speak on that, that really blew. It was a learning 1725 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:05,600 Speaker 12: experience for both doctor Webb and I and doing this 1726 01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,479 Speaker 12: fourteen years of work on this book. 1727 01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:09,840 Speaker 1: And it's been a learning experience for us. Just a 1728 01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,920 Speaker 1: fascinating study. Again, I keep saying it just you know, 1729 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm just glad to know that that we're not predisposed 1730 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:20,519 Speaker 1: to be criminals. Somebody who's actually documented because Dr Welson 1731 01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,840 Speaker 1: has said before said that how the media placed that 1732 01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,040 Speaker 1: into our minds. And she said, in every city, major city, 1733 01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,280 Speaker 1: on the evening news, you got to see a black person, 1734 01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,800 Speaker 1: usually a black man in cuffs, and that's in the 1735 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,960 Speaker 1: mind of white folks, that's who we are in the 1736 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:36,920 Speaker 1: mind of sal our people. That's who we are too. 1737 01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,360 Speaker 1: So I'm glad you bunked that issue as well. So 1738 01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,160 Speaker 1: thank you, doctor Cook. Are you on social media? Can 1739 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,599 Speaker 1: people follow you on social media? 1740 01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,639 Speaker 12: No, I'm not so social media. I'm not on social media. 1741 01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:52,800 Speaker 12: But I present around the country and around the world 1742 01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:57,519 Speaker 12: on this. I've been outside of the country on both 1743 01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,519 Speaker 12: sides of the globe talking about this in terms of 1744 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:04,240 Speaker 12: the externalized impact of racism and racial trauma and the 1745 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,760 Speaker 12: internalized impact of it. So I talk about it in 1746 01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:11,320 Speaker 12: terms of presentations and of course reading the book. And 1747 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:17,160 Speaker 12: I'm currently as a as you indicated, a faculty at 1748 01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,040 Speaker 12: the University of District of Columbia, and I teach courses 1749 01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:24,439 Speaker 12: that incorporate the information from the research that has been learned. 1750 01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:26,840 Speaker 1: All right, family, you go to you DC and make 1751 01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,559 Speaker 1: sure you take one of his classes. That's doctor Benson Cook. 1752 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,920 Speaker 1: Doctor Cook, thank you. We've got to get you back 1753 01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,720 Speaker 1: here real soon, because this is just great. You know, 1754 01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,200 Speaker 1: it's talking about learning, you know, Kevin asked how it 1755 01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,280 Speaker 1: feels I'm learning. I just learned a lot this morning 1756 01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,599 Speaker 1: from me. Well, hopefully we get a chance to share 1757 01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,000 Speaker 1: that with our listeners as well. 1758 01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:44,960 Speaker 12: Yeah, but before I get up, I just want to 1759 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:48,280 Speaker 12: honor you for having this platform that gets information to 1760 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,880 Speaker 12: our community, because without this kind of platform, there's so 1761 01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,200 Speaker 12: much more that you know, we're not learning. But with 1762 01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,920 Speaker 12: your a platform, you're bringing on people that not only 1763 01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:01,800 Speaker 12: expose what we need to know, but exposing the wealth 1764 01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:05,080 Speaker 12: of intellects that exists in our community. So I thank 1765 01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:05,439 Speaker 12: you for that. 1766 01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,040 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for those kind ways. We do have 1767 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,840 Speaker 1: some superstars on the program. One is coming up next. 1768 01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:14,639 Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Cook. Okay, thank you, all right, family, 1769 01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,679 Speaker 1: I turn our attention to our next guest, doctor a doctor, 1770 01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:18,679 Speaker 1: a Grand Rising. 1771 01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:23,160 Speaker 5: Welcome back to the program, Grand Rising, Carl. It is 1772 01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,919 Speaker 5: so wonderful to be back with your audience. Your audience 1773 01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:30,560 Speaker 5: really really invigorates me. Every time I leave being a 1774 01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:35,000 Speaker 5: guest on your show, I've got this supernatural flow going 1775 01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:38,120 Speaker 5: through my body and it's the energy of the Carl 1776 01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:43,240 Speaker 5: Nelson listenership. That power in listenership. I love coming back 1777 01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:43,840 Speaker 5: to this show. 1778 01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:46,680 Speaker 1: Hell, let me just tell a family, if you are 1779 01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,439 Speaker 1: you or somebody that you know has got a health 1780 01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,840 Speaker 1: issue and you know, or if you've even been to 1781 01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:54,800 Speaker 1: a doctor you're dealing with one and you want to 1782 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,799 Speaker 1: get another opinion, you please take advantage of doctor A's 1783 01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:02,400 Speaker 1: expertise a traditional doctor where it's the white jacket, but 1784 01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,760 Speaker 1: she's also a natural pathic doctor. She'd give you a 1785 01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,920 Speaker 1: holistic advice as well. Sometimes you need both. Sometimes you 1786 01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,320 Speaker 1: don't want to take the pharmaceutical stuff and there's another 1787 01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,320 Speaker 1: way to be treated. She can share that with you. 1788 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:16,720 Speaker 1: And again, don't be bashfuled. Please call in and take 1789 01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,040 Speaker 1: advantage of what she's got will share with you, and 1790 01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:20,960 Speaker 1: you don't have to use real name or your real city. 1791 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,320 Speaker 1: But because I know some folks that want people to 1792 01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,760 Speaker 1: know their business, I get it. But you know, you've 1793 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,280 Speaker 1: only got one life, and you know, going to these 1794 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,720 Speaker 1: doctors today, if you try to even just trying to 1795 01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,960 Speaker 1: make an appointment, it just seems like it's months out, 1796 01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:35,960 Speaker 1: weeks out before you can see the doctor you want to. 1797 01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,280 Speaker 1: You've got stuff going on that you really need to 1798 01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:41,920 Speaker 1: be addressed immediately. Doctor A. We talked with doctor Cook 1799 01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:44,840 Speaker 1: about you know, some of us claim that we predisposed 1800 01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,679 Speaker 1: because of our family is to to diabetes and kidney issues. 1801 01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,720 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on those things about predisposed? 1802 01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:58,519 Speaker 5: So it's a reality, it's a scientific reality. Many many 1803 01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:05,360 Speaker 5: of our disease states. We are already in our genomic 1804 01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:11,400 Speaker 5: makeup high risk or increase risks. And what we didn't 1805 01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:16,560 Speaker 5: know prior to this present twenty first century period is 1806 01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:21,120 Speaker 5: that we actually could diagnose that prior to the onset 1807 01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:25,360 Speaker 5: of symptoms or disease. So that's the reality, Carl. The 1808 01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:32,040 Speaker 5: expansion of recognition of cracking the human genomic code, Okay, 1809 01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:37,360 Speaker 5: as African people, is certainly the revelation of from the 1810 01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:41,360 Speaker 5: minute that you're born onto the world, your genes are there. Okay, 1811 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,479 Speaker 5: they may not all be expressed like puberty for example. Okay, 1812 01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:50,840 Speaker 5: your femininity comes into full blossom at puberty, your masculinity 1813 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,840 Speaker 5: comes into full blossom at puberty, but you're born with it. 1814 01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,640 Speaker 5: So in the same right, are you born with an 1815 01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:02,560 Speaker 5: increased risk high risk for breath cancer, for diabetes, for 1816 01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:07,080 Speaker 5: autoimmune disease, etc. That is a reality. The other part 1817 01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,719 Speaker 5: of it, which he mentioned and which is equally true 1818 01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:15,160 Speaker 5: is exposure. You know, so I heard him mentioning toxic environment. 1819 01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:20,400 Speaker 5: Hello Flint, Michigan. Hello, Yes, if somebody is poisoning you 1820 01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,840 Speaker 5: with lead based water because they got crappy pipes, even 1821 01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:28,719 Speaker 5: though you pay your taxes. Then yes, that's environmental poison 1822 01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:32,840 Speaker 5: and let's keep it real, Carl, Black and brown communities 1823 01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:37,760 Speaker 5: are more high likely to be poisoned than our Caucasian communities, 1824 01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,240 Speaker 5: and we have proof of that. So we need to 1825 01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:45,200 Speaker 5: stay very cognizant. We need to be very intentional as 1826 01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:49,599 Speaker 5: we move into this two thousand and twenty six going 1827 01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:53,080 Speaker 5: into twenty seven before we blink our eyes. This is 1828 01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:55,559 Speaker 5: my first time talking to your audience since we've gone 1829 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:59,639 Speaker 5: to war. And of course, my mother, Mama Bernita Thompson, 1830 01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,960 Speaker 5: that found it and runs the roots, her granddaughter is 1831 01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:08,960 Speaker 5: now at war. Okay because despite our simpleton heads that 1832 01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:14,280 Speaker 5: says female soldiers are not equipped to fight. Yeah, okay, 1833 01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,400 Speaker 5: very very nice. We're equipped to birth the nation, but 1834 01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:21,880 Speaker 5: not to fight. Well, we do fight, both both genders. 1835 01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:27,840 Speaker 5: Every ethnicity is fighting this Ignoramus's war in Iran. So 1836 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,600 Speaker 5: you know, Kamario, let me interview that. 1837 01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:34,959 Speaker 1: He said that, and it is still deploying of female soldiers. 1838 01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:36,519 Speaker 1: He's female militant. 1839 01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:41,720 Speaker 5: All he wanted to do was disrespect female soldiers, female sergeants, 1840 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:46,120 Speaker 5: female generals. He's very very rude and disrespectful, but of 1841 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,600 Speaker 5: course they are still dying. Carl. You saw of the 1842 01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,160 Speaker 5: first six soldiers to die, there were women where they're 1843 01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:56,519 Speaker 5: not He's an idiot. But but we're all now fighting 1844 01:40:56,600 --> 01:41:00,360 Speaker 5: this war. And as you saw this morning, NATO's the 1845 01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:03,400 Speaker 5: hell with the US. Okay, y'all didn't ask us permission 1846 01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,920 Speaker 5: to fight. How you're going to ask us for help now? No, 1847 01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:10,040 Speaker 5: we're not going to help. So the oil that's getting 1848 01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:13,879 Speaker 5: through the strait of Vermouse, it's China and India. Basically, 1849 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,240 Speaker 5: anybody that hates the US is welcome to get their oil. 1850 01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,760 Speaker 1: What does this do to the stress. It seems like 1851 01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,479 Speaker 1: this is especially for you, your family. You've got a 1852 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:28,040 Speaker 1: member in the military. How does it impact you the 1853 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:31,000 Speaker 1: stress of you know, because you're concerned about being out, 1854 01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:34,200 Speaker 1: You've got a relatives out there in the firing line, 1855 01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:34,679 Speaker 1: if you will. 1856 01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,400 Speaker 5: That's right, absolutely in the fire. 1857 01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:37,880 Speaker 13: You know. 1858 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,840 Speaker 5: Now with drones, they are all in the firing line. 1859 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:43,559 Speaker 5: They are all in the fire. There is no front line. 1860 01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,519 Speaker 5: The drone can just get you stress is real. What 1861 01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,439 Speaker 5: it actually does is it causes a reaction in the 1862 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:56,000 Speaker 5: cells of your body. Okay, the oxidative stress that it 1863 01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:59,080 Speaker 5: causes the same effect as if you did a workout, 1864 01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:02,559 Speaker 5: except this more toxic. Okay, when you actually work out, 1865 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,720 Speaker 5: you've heard of the runners high and so it's a 1866 01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:11,200 Speaker 5: reality your body will produce endorphins because movement is what 1867 01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:14,679 Speaker 5: God intended for us. That's why the Middle Passage, Carl 1868 01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:19,240 Speaker 5: was so diabolical. It was diabolical. Okay. You don't even 1869 01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:22,559 Speaker 5: put sardines in a can the way they put African 1870 01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:28,120 Speaker 5: men and women smashed together, putting feces on one another, 1871 01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,760 Speaker 5: because there's no room to defecate, there's no room for 1872 01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:35,840 Speaker 5: the the orifices of your body. You're literally back to back, 1873 01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:41,479 Speaker 5: sweat on top of sweat, dehumanized in that process. Okay, 1874 01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:45,800 Speaker 5: that movement is our nature. We are not supposed to 1875 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:50,200 Speaker 5: be steel Karl. This is why the over intellectual people 1876 01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:54,360 Speaker 5: of us die first, because they're sitting still, thinking so 1877 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,519 Speaker 5: hard they're not moving the cells of their body. Okay, 1878 01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:04,639 Speaker 5: so movement number one, Listenership, movement is medicine, So drink 1879 01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:08,280 Speaker 5: that for breakfast. Okay, get up and move. That's why 1880 01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:12,479 Speaker 5: we now have a work desk that are mobile work 1881 01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:15,479 Speaker 5: death that help you stand up stop sitting on your butt. 1882 01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:20,879 Speaker 5: So movement is healthy. On the other hand, stress is toxic, 1883 01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,920 Speaker 5: and when you mentally are going through stress, your body 1884 01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:29,040 Speaker 5: begins to burn up energy in the bad way. So 1885 01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:33,759 Speaker 5: now you have free radicals floating around in your body. 1886 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:37,600 Speaker 5: Free radical cause disease. Carl, you started this morning with 1887 01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:42,000 Speaker 5: a very poignant question stress kills and now we can 1888 01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:47,920 Speaker 5: scientifically understand why. Because you're making free radicals, you're making 1889 01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:52,439 Speaker 5: your body acidic. The body is healthy in an alkalinized state. 1890 01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,160 Speaker 5: So the more you make your body acidic, you are 1891 01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:59,120 Speaker 5: making it toxic. You are making it fertile ground for 1892 01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,920 Speaker 5: a disease to manifest. So again going back to our 1893 01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:07,120 Speaker 5: genetic code, just because you have the genetic programming doesn't 1894 01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:10,400 Speaker 5: mean it will manifest. Some of us are high risk 1895 01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,759 Speaker 5: for breast cancer, and we're going to escape that toxic 1896 01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,320 Speaker 5: trap of the enemy because we are doing the right 1897 01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:22,000 Speaker 5: behavioral things. We are taking the right things in terms 1898 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:24,880 Speaker 5: of the herbs that God put on this earth to 1899 01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:28,240 Speaker 5: heal us and to help us. We are using garlic 1900 01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:32,320 Speaker 5: to our advantage. We are using echinasia to our advantage. 1901 01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:35,760 Speaker 5: We are drinking alkaline water. These are the choices we 1902 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,439 Speaker 5: have that our ancestors in the Middle Passage did not. 1903 01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:46,040 Speaker 5: We've got to exercise every every opportunity to be our 1904 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:49,800 Speaker 5: God giving manifest selves. That is possible. 1905 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:53,679 Speaker 1: We've got to and I'm glad you said that. And listen, 1906 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:55,479 Speaker 1: we got to step aside and take a break with family. 1907 01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:58,439 Speaker 1: If you've got a health challenge, a health question, or 1908 01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:00,320 Speaker 1: if you're seeing a doctrine, you want to s second 1909 01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:03,280 Speaker 1: opinion and the folks, many of you don't have doctors 1910 01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,280 Speaker 1: as friends, and you can't speak to the doctor openly 1911 01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,040 Speaker 1: and have a full course discussion with a doctor. This 1912 01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:10,680 Speaker 1: is a person you need to talk to. Her name 1913 01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:15,760 Speaker 1: is doctor A. Again, she's a traditional health practitioner you 1914 01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,720 Speaker 1: know who wear's the white jacket. But she's also a 1915 01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:20,880 Speaker 1: natropathic doctor too, so she'll give you a choice. You 1916 01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:24,240 Speaker 1: want the pharmaceuticals those you know, the pills that the 1917 01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:28,000 Speaker 1: doctor tells you, or the holistic way of recovery if 1918 01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:31,320 Speaker 1: you've got an issue, and again I please take advantage 1919 01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,439 Speaker 1: of her expertise. You don't have to use your real 1920 01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,880 Speaker 1: name or your real city. And don't wait for somebody 1921 01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:38,639 Speaker 1: else to call in if you think has a similar issue. 1922 01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,120 Speaker 1: We have that all every time she's on all bunch 1923 01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,519 Speaker 1: of folks wait till the last minute, call us now, 1924 01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,439 Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight 1925 01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:49,559 Speaker 1: seventy six, and we'll take a phone calls next grand 1926 01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,360 Speaker 1: Rise in family facts are staying with us on this 1927 01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:54,800 Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, another wellness Wednesday with doctor A. As I 1928 01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,000 Speaker 1: mentioned before the break, doctor A is you know, she's 1929 01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:02,320 Speaker 1: a traditional medical physicians as so also a holistic doctor. 1930 01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:05,200 Speaker 1: And if you got an issue, please don't be bachelor. 1931 01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,840 Speaker 1: I keep saying that because you know some folks they think, uh, 1932 01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,439 Speaker 1: if I have a health issue, it'll go away with time, 1933 01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:13,800 Speaker 1: and you know it's not. And then if you go 1934 01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,000 Speaker 1: to the doctor, he'll tell you something and you want 1935 01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,599 Speaker 1: a second opinion, and you don't know another doctor to ask. 1936 01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:20,960 Speaker 1: This is doctor you can pose that question to her name? 1937 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:22,760 Speaker 1: Is doctor A? All right, let's take some calls for 1938 01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:26,839 Speaker 1: doctor A. Sandra Robinson's up first, she's online too, Santra Robinson, 1939 01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:28,280 Speaker 1: grand Ris in your hoarm with doctor A. 1940 01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:32,680 Speaker 3: Sandra there. 1941 01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,960 Speaker 14: I'm gonna make this short and sweet so others may speak, 1942 01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:40,720 Speaker 14: because I will. You know, I'm very blessed to be 1943 01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:43,920 Speaker 14: able to talk to you some of the time that 1944 01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:47,920 Speaker 14: I want to let you know that I love your 1945 01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,600 Speaker 14: mother very much and that I've been thinking about it 1946 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:54,000 Speaker 14: and I'm gonna call her, But doctor A, I went 1947 01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:56,760 Speaker 14: to a specialist yesterday and I will tell you this, 1948 01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:00,400 Speaker 14: I didn't even know you what's gonna be on this morning. 1949 01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:02,800 Speaker 14: So I'm going to edit it and I will be 1950 01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:06,280 Speaker 14: getting in touch with you. I ask God to continue 1951 01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,960 Speaker 14: to loving direct you, guide and protect you. 1952 01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,920 Speaker 5: Well you now, Sandra, let me say this, we all 1953 01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:24,080 Speaker 5: need loving support, care leaders fan club such as yourself. 1954 01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:28,800 Speaker 5: You just make every every cell in my body come 1955 01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:31,760 Speaker 5: to life every time you call, and you give love 1956 01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,960 Speaker 5: and affection. You have your own needs, but you just 1957 01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:38,360 Speaker 5: to suppour in before you even take a single scoop. 1958 01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:39,960 Speaker 5: I just love you to pieces. 1959 01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,599 Speaker 14: I love you too, sweetheart, and please have a Let's 1960 01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:45,360 Speaker 14: stay and be safe. 1961 01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:50,360 Speaker 5: Amen, Amen and amen. And let me just say for 1962 01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:55,000 Speaker 5: the listenership Sondra Robinson has called, not only is she 1963 01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:59,160 Speaker 5: loyal to Carl Nelson, I mean such a loyal listener 1964 01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:02,280 Speaker 5: I can't imagine how many years, but I will say 1965 01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:07,160 Speaker 5: she also has so much affection for Roots Activity Learning Center, 1966 01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:11,679 Speaker 5: for Bernita Thompson, and she supports your girl almost every 1967 01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:16,240 Speaker 5: time I come on the show. That is such a feeling. Okay, 1968 01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,519 Speaker 5: re read Rihanna is not the only one with a 1969 01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:23,200 Speaker 5: fan club. You don't have to be a celebrity. Okay, 1970 01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,479 Speaker 5: you could be a plane Jane doctor and people still 1971 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,320 Speaker 5: love you the pieces. What a good feeling. See. I 1972 01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,240 Speaker 5: love coming home to family, Carl. 1973 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. Let me just say this. 1974 01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,800 Speaker 1: Sondra Robinson, she was listening to this station when Miss 1975 01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:39,200 Speaker 1: Hughes turned on the lights. She's she's been listening ever since. 1976 01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,240 Speaker 1: And I don't Kevin probably killed because I can't remember 1977 01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:46,080 Speaker 1: that exactly when it started. I think it was in 1978 01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:50,400 Speaker 1: seventy nine or somewhere eighty Kevin, But anyway, Saunder's been 1979 01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:54,479 Speaker 1: being a listener to eighty one okay, eighty one w 1980 01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,559 Speaker 1: ol and Sunder's been listening ever since. You know, most 1981 01:48:57,640 --> 01:48:59,519 Speaker 1: folks they grow up and they go and listen to 1982 01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:01,960 Speaker 1: other stations, not even listen to the radio anymore. So 1983 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,519 Speaker 1: I just want to thank Sondra for her dedication and 1984 01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:08,599 Speaker 1: her passion for WL. But Doctor A got some more 1985 01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:10,479 Speaker 1: folks want to talk to you. Let's go to Atlanta. First, 1986 01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:13,640 Speaker 1: Milik is online. Three Milik Grand Rising. You're on with 1987 01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:14,120 Speaker 1: doctor A. 1988 01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:18,120 Speaker 15: Good morning, and thank you for taking my call. 1989 01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:24,280 Speaker 5: Welcome Malak, Welcome, Okay. 1990 01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:29,040 Speaker 15: My question is in the realm of kidney health, I'm 1991 01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:32,519 Speaker 15: fifty two years old, I weigh one hundred and fifty 1992 01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:37,560 Speaker 15: five pounds, I'm a blackmail and my egf R is 1993 01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:42,640 Speaker 15: sixty nine sixty nine. My question is what do I 1994 01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:47,880 Speaker 15: need to do to get that number higher? And what's 1995 01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:51,160 Speaker 15: the time frame does it take to start to see results? 1996 01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:58,000 Speaker 5: Okay, you're what is sixty nine? Repeat? Repeat the number? 1997 01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,400 Speaker 12: What here? 1998 01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:01,720 Speaker 3: What gf R? 1999 01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:11,880 Speaker 5: Okay? Okay, yeah, yeah rate, you're mallular filteration rate? Okay, Now, 2000 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:16,120 Speaker 5: I just wanted the communication to be clear so that 2001 01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:20,360 Speaker 5: we can all understand. Uh So again for the listenership 2002 01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:24,519 Speaker 5: We've gotten over the time that I've been doing the program, 2003 01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:29,479 Speaker 5: many many calls. One of our most popular topics is 2004 01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:34,639 Speaker 5: renal health, and kidney disease affects people of color much 2005 01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:38,960 Speaker 5: more drastically. The reason for that is because we have 2006 01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:43,200 Speaker 5: more diabetes, we're impacted more by hypertension, which is high 2007 01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:49,320 Speaker 5: blood pressure. So your glomular filtration rate is what measures 2008 01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:52,800 Speaker 5: how well your kidneys filter your blood. So thank you 2009 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:56,160 Speaker 5: so much, Malik for calling us from Atlanta to really 2010 01:50:56,360 --> 01:51:00,320 Speaker 5: understand your glomerular filtration rate. And I'm so out of 2011 01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:04,640 Speaker 5: you as a man for even knowing that term. It 2012 01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:08,960 Speaker 5: means that you're engaging the healthcare system, which is your right. 2013 01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:13,800 Speaker 5: You absolutely one thousand percent have ancestors that bled and 2014 01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:17,360 Speaker 5: died for you to have the right to access to 2015 01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:24,840 Speaker 5: your GFR number. Okay, So kidney disease has stages stage one, two, three, four, five, 2016 01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:29,920 Speaker 5: and stage three has two parts. So let's understand kidney 2017 01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:34,800 Speaker 5: health Carl Nelson listenership across the country. Let's understand that 2018 01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:39,800 Speaker 5: stage one means there is minimal kidney damage and our 2019 01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:42,680 Speaker 5: kidneys are still functioning normally. This is when most of 2020 01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,559 Speaker 5: us are not going to the doctor. Okay, they could 2021 01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:49,760 Speaker 5: make you aware you've got stage one, your GFR is 2022 01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:53,280 Speaker 5: going to crap, but yet you feel great. That's the 2023 01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:57,200 Speaker 5: time to find out stage two. This is what brother 2024 01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:01,200 Speaker 5: Malik has got. He's got stage two kidney disease because 2025 01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:05,720 Speaker 5: your GFR is between sixty and eighty nine, but you 2026 01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:10,680 Speaker 5: below ninety above sixty. So my brother at stage two 2027 01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:14,560 Speaker 5: kidney disease, what are some of the things that you 2028 01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:19,599 Speaker 5: can do to avoid going to stage three, Stage four, 2029 01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:24,959 Speaker 5: stage five. It depends on the underlying cause you're basically 2030 01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:29,680 Speaker 5: the filtering unit of the kidney is called a gloomeyrier 2031 01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:34,639 Speaker 5: Lie glow mary Lie is the word for the kidney 2032 01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:39,880 Speaker 5: filtering unit. So when your kidney filtering units like your 2033 01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,920 Speaker 5: air conditioning units, right, we change the filters when we 2034 01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:47,400 Speaker 5: change seasons. If it's going down, that's not good. You've 2035 01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:50,320 Speaker 5: got to manage your blood pressure. You've got to manage 2036 01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:54,080 Speaker 5: your diabetes so that you can get this under control. Okay, 2037 01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:58,759 Speaker 5: once again, I always speak about Mama Bernita. Mama Bernita, 2038 01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:01,960 Speaker 5: Grace of God is healthy at seventy nine, but she 2039 01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:07,160 Speaker 5: has stage five kidney failure, not kidney disease failure. We're 2040 01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:11,439 Speaker 5: trying to prevent getting to that point. Exercise helps, a 2041 01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:16,120 Speaker 5: low thought, diet helps definitely. Don't be a smoker. Okay, 2042 01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:19,120 Speaker 5: you've got to quit smoking if you're doing that, But 2043 01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:23,120 Speaker 5: you've got to manage your diabetes and your blood pressure. 2044 01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,400 Speaker 5: Brother Malik, thank you for bringing our awareness at the 2045 01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:29,000 Speaker 5: top of the morning to the kidney once again. 2046 01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:32,639 Speaker 3: Thank you, all right, Thanks Releek. 2047 01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:37,760 Speaker 1: My question is it reversible doctor A thatstage or is 2048 01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:39,280 Speaker 1: it justable manageable? 2049 01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:39,640 Speaker 4: No? 2050 01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:43,599 Speaker 5: No, no, So everything before you get to stage five 2051 01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:46,160 Speaker 5: is reversible. Once you're at stage five, now you need 2052 01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:51,640 Speaker 5: dialysis or a transplant. So everything is reversible. But the 2053 01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,439 Speaker 5: key is not a one two three. You see, we 2054 01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,680 Speaker 5: all would like to pop an a zembic pill and 2055 01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:58,840 Speaker 5: not have to go to the gym. That's a bunch 2056 01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:02,080 Speaker 5: of bullcock of keep it real. So this is why 2057 01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:06,280 Speaker 5: I sold brother Malik the real facts. Get your diabetes, 2058 01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:10,160 Speaker 5: your blood pressure, you're smoking, your nutrition under control. It's 2059 01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:13,920 Speaker 5: real work to get a kidney back to how God 2060 01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,679 Speaker 5: gave it to you in the first place. If it's damaged, 2061 01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,240 Speaker 5: you're gonna have to get to work. You probably need 2062 01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:22,680 Speaker 5: to hire a nutritionist because it's worth it. You don't 2063 01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:27,120 Speaker 5: want stage five dialysis. You know, Mama Bernita has excellent 2064 01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:30,960 Speaker 5: health insurance because dialysis is you know what, twenty thousand 2065 01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,720 Speaker 5: dollars a week, So you know, if you don't have that, 2066 01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:38,160 Speaker 5: you won't live. You don't want to need something for 2067 01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:39,480 Speaker 5: your organ to function. 2068 01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:44,040 Speaker 1: Got you twenty eight after top aalystics some more cost. 2069 01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:45,960 Speaker 1: Let's go to Baltimore. Film is waiting for us on 2070 01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:49,640 Speaker 1: line four Grand Rising Filma. You're on with doctor doctor A. 2071 01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:50,800 Speaker 1: Your question for doctor A. 2072 01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:57,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, Grand Rising, Uh, doctor A, Well, I really don't 2073 01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,880 Speaker 13: know where to start but I'll start with this one. 2074 01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:04,440 Speaker 13: My trust in doctors is like gone. I'm really gone 2075 01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:07,240 Speaker 13: right now, I'm my own doctor. I mean, it's just 2076 01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:11,040 Speaker 13: like I'm not being facetious. I didn't have doctors to deal. 2077 01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:12,080 Speaker 16: Me death row. 2078 01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:16,040 Speaker 13: I still can't believe I'm still alive. So I'm gonna 2079 01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:20,280 Speaker 13: talk about internal bleeding very quick. Stephanie Sharp over there 2080 01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:26,120 Speaker 13: signed our hospital sent me to the hospital last August 2081 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:29,240 Speaker 13: internal bleeding. I think it's been longer than last August. 2082 01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:33,840 Speaker 13: I don't count no more internal bleeding now long third short, 2083 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,720 Speaker 13: I had to have the surgery done. So doctor along 2084 01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:40,360 Speaker 13: the way uh going into our different hospitals told me 2085 01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:42,600 Speaker 13: that she was the reason while I was in the 2086 01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:46,760 Speaker 13: hospital internal bleeding, that she gave me these medications too 2087 01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:50,040 Speaker 13: long and too wrong, high blood pressure medications. And he 2088 01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:52,520 Speaker 13: told me, listen, I swear to you, he exclaimed at me, 2089 01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:55,080 Speaker 13: a black doctor. He said to me, don't you take 2090 01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:59,600 Speaker 13: nothing that doctor Stephanie Sharp ever give you again? Now 2091 01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,280 Speaker 13: I have no reason to lie to you. I looked 2092 01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,680 Speaker 13: at him, I said, what did you say? He said, 2093 01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:08,360 Speaker 13: Stephanie Sharp, don't you take nothing? Does she ever give 2094 01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:11,800 Speaker 13: you to take again? She is the reason why you're here, 2095 01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,560 Speaker 13: why you got internal bleeding? And I said what So 2096 01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:18,360 Speaker 13: I took it from there, and as I said, I 2097 01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:19,920 Speaker 13: had to have surgery down. I was in and our 2098 01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,200 Speaker 13: hospitals all by myself. My parents are dead. I'm seventy 2099 01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,360 Speaker 13: one years old. Seventy one when my parents died. My 2100 01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:29,680 Speaker 13: family just weren't their own ways. You know, seriously. I've 2101 01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:32,640 Speaker 13: got a famous brother out there. You know he worked 2102 01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:37,160 Speaker 13: for ninety two qoter Marcel Thornton. I heard from that boy. 2103 01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:39,400 Speaker 1: I used to take it down as over right, Thelma, 2104 01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:41,560 Speaker 1: because we got some mother folks want to got questions 2105 01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:44,400 Speaker 1: for doctor. Can you just confine it to the medical 2106 01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:44,920 Speaker 1: shoe way. 2107 01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:46,880 Speaker 5: I get the point, Thelma. Let me let me take 2108 01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:49,640 Speaker 5: the mico, let me take the mic, because here's the thing. 2109 01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:52,760 Speaker 5: I love you and I appreciate you for calling. The 2110 01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:57,120 Speaker 5: bottom line, Thelma, at seventy one years of victory, is 2111 01:56:57,240 --> 01:57:01,160 Speaker 5: that you are living the life of so many voiceless 2112 01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:07,560 Speaker 5: black women, so many voiceless daughters, so many voiceless sisters, aunties. Okay, 2113 01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:12,360 Speaker 5: the fact is this, Yes, there are complications for medication. 2114 01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:16,800 Speaker 5: It's not to say the message listenership is not do 2115 01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:21,400 Speaker 5: not take medication to manage your blood pressure. The issue 2116 01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,920 Speaker 5: is this, You've got to vet your doctors. Nobody gets 2117 01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:28,720 Speaker 5: a pass, not a police officer, not a judge, not 2118 01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:32,800 Speaker 5: a teacher, not a nurse, and not a doctor. Everybody 2119 01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:38,400 Speaker 5: gets vetted, okay, because irresponsible and unethical. Is irresponsible and unethical, 2120 01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:42,960 Speaker 5: and many black and brown people are getting half ass care. 2121 01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:46,640 Speaker 5: So we need to address the fact that, yes, Thelma, 2122 01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:50,040 Speaker 5: something happened to you. It was a complication, and you're 2123 01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:54,040 Speaker 5: not the only sister in America with a complication. There 2124 01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:58,080 Speaker 5: are thousands, tens of thousands. So the key in your 2125 01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:01,480 Speaker 5: voice is this, not only is it tragic that there's 2126 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:05,200 Speaker 5: no family unity, and every black family experiences that. In 2127 01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:08,200 Speaker 5: other words, there's certain people that are the anchors of 2128 01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:11,760 Speaker 5: our family and when they die, the family goes amok. 2129 01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:15,480 Speaker 5: And yes, that's a reality. The second truth is if 2130 01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:18,919 Speaker 5: you don't vet your doctors, anything can happen to anyone, 2131 01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:22,680 Speaker 5: all right. There are tons of examples of medical horrors. 2132 01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:26,720 Speaker 5: Bleeding internally can kill you. And so your life was saved, 2133 01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:31,080 Speaker 5: your life was fared. However, the doctor was not acting 2134 01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:39,600 Speaker 5: ethically and responsibly. We've got to vet our doctors people. Yeah, mine, 2135 01:58:39,680 --> 01:58:42,400 Speaker 5: that's the bottom line, Thelma, you know, so the details 2136 01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:46,360 Speaker 5: as to what caused internal bleeding? What was the medication? 2137 01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:49,440 Speaker 5: Were you on the wrong dose? That's a matter of 2138 01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:53,840 Speaker 5: being a responsible doctor, just like a responsible parent, right 2139 01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:58,520 Speaker 5: you make sure that your child is fed, clothed, warm, 2140 01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:03,000 Speaker 5: sleeps at night, their homework. A responsible doctor is going 2141 01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:07,280 Speaker 5: to monitor the medication, the dough. Yes, the dose depends 2142 01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:10,680 Speaker 5: on the individual. Different do Everybody don't get the same dose. 2143 01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:15,560 Speaker 5: Everybody is not on the same drug. Different medications work 2144 01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,520 Speaker 5: for different people. So we don't have time in this 2145 01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:24,960 Speaker 5: show to go into an hour for each caller. You 2146 01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:31,480 Speaker 5: weren't managed. Go ahead, go ahead, Thelma, Helma, were you 2147 01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:32,760 Speaker 5: saying the name of the medication? 2148 01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:36,720 Speaker 1: I think she hung up, But what she said though, 2149 01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,400 Speaker 1: it was important, though, doctor A, You've got to vet 2150 01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:42,640 Speaker 1: your doctor. You know. One of the issues too when people, 2151 01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,680 Speaker 1: our people go to doctors. Whatever the doctor says, we 2152 01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:48,080 Speaker 1: accept it. And this is why you're here this morning. 2153 01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:50,200 Speaker 1: You want to get a second opinion. You do that 2154 01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:52,400 Speaker 1: if you got a problem with your car or your computer. 2155 01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:54,360 Speaker 1: You don't just take the further you go all that. 2156 01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:56,520 Speaker 1: Let me just see what somebody else says. But most 2157 01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:58,840 Speaker 1: of the times we the press in the white suit. 2158 01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:02,000 Speaker 1: He says that, oh I'm taking it. So this morning 2159 02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:04,360 Speaker 1: you have a chance to get a second opinion. All 2160 02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:06,120 Speaker 1: you got to do is call us up. Speak to 2161 02:00:06,160 --> 02:00:09,040 Speaker 1: doctor A at eight hundred and four five zero seventy 2162 02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:12,520 Speaker 1: eight seventy six. Doctor A Maurice calling from College Park 2163 02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:15,560 Speaker 1: in Maryland. She's on line five. Brie your question for 2164 02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:16,040 Speaker 1: doctor A. 2165 02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:20,400 Speaker 17: Unrating everyone and shout out to my dear friend who's 2166 02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:23,320 Speaker 17: resting in peace of the Lord, and the Peterson who 2167 02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:26,520 Speaker 17: was the one who shared with me. The cardinals who's 2168 02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:29,200 Speaker 17: shown up been plugged in ever since. So I have 2169 02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:31,600 Speaker 17: to give credit where credit is doing, Doctor A. Thank 2170 02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:35,440 Speaker 17: you for taking my call. My question is, and please 2171 02:00:35,520 --> 02:00:39,520 Speaker 17: help me. I have cadects, and you know the regular 2172 02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:42,360 Speaker 17: means of going in with the operation. I'm holistic all 2173 02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:46,160 Speaker 17: the way. Is Jereny feedback for me? Please the name 2174 02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:47,280 Speaker 17: of the mosselle. 2175 02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:51,720 Speaker 5: Well number one. I want to thank you for calling in. 2176 02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:56,480 Speaker 5: It is awesome. It is awesome to have you on 2177 02:00:56,640 --> 02:01:01,760 Speaker 5: the shell this morning. What is your age? Sen you 2178 02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:07,800 Speaker 5: one this year? Okay, so at seventy one years of age. 2179 02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:11,920 Speaker 5: God bless you, God blessed you. We don't all know 2180 02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:14,520 Speaker 5: that we're going to get the journey into our seventies. 2181 02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:23,840 Speaker 5: Cataracts are a development where your vision can become blurry, cloudy, 2182 02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:28,760 Speaker 5: you can have dim vision, your sensitivity to light is 2183 02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:32,280 Speaker 5: thrown off. It's difficult for you to see at night. 2184 02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:38,720 Speaker 5: So really, you know who has a cataract. Surgery is 2185 02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:43,720 Speaker 5: very largely dependent upon the symptoms that you're having. So 2186 02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:49,680 Speaker 5: some common signs include you see halos around lights, they're 2187 02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:53,919 Speaker 5: faded or yellowed color, you don't see color properly anymore, 2188 02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:58,400 Speaker 5: frequent needing brighter light in order for you to read. 2189 02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:03,280 Speaker 5: These are some of the challenges to your vision. 2190 02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:04,280 Speaker 13: That you really can have. 2191 02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:08,400 Speaker 5: Some of the other things that I need you to 2192 02:02:08,480 --> 02:02:13,200 Speaker 5: be mindful of, just in terms of understanding the cataract 2193 02:02:13,400 --> 02:02:17,720 Speaker 5: and the effects that it's causing. Night vision becomes difficult, 2194 02:02:18,320 --> 02:02:22,040 Speaker 5: so driving at night you have reduced light sensitivity. That 2195 02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:26,120 Speaker 5: car accident is real. Okay, and hold that. 2196 02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:27,640 Speaker 1: Thought right there. We got to step aside for a 2197 02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:30,120 Speaker 1: few moments and stay with us Marie. And when you 2198 02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:32,800 Speaker 1: finished helping Marie, and tell us about the floaters as well, 2199 02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:35,840 Speaker 1: because that's another problem that people have with their eyesight. Family, 2200 02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:37,760 Speaker 1: you two can get in on this conversation. You got 2201 02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:40,840 Speaker 1: a health challenge, or you know somebody who does, or 2202 02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:42,880 Speaker 1: you don't have to use your real name in real city, 2203 02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:45,880 Speaker 1: but take advantage of doctor A. Doctor as medical doctors, 2204 02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:48,640 Speaker 1: she's this person in the white suit. She's also a 2205 02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:51,320 Speaker 1: natural pathic doctor. She can tell your holistic way to 2206 02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:52,920 Speaker 1: deal with the issue. And all you got to do 2207 02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:54,800 Speaker 1: is reach out to us at eight hundred four to 2208 02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:57,960 Speaker 1: five to zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take 2209 02:02:57,960 --> 02:03:00,400 Speaker 1: your phone calls next family, thanks your role with us 2210 02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:02,880 Speaker 1: on this Wellness Wednesday with our guest Dr A. As 2211 02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:05,920 Speaker 1: I mentioned before the break, Doctor A is a natural 2212 02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:09,160 Speaker 1: pathic doctor, holistic doctor. It's also a traditional medical physician 2213 02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:11,400 Speaker 1: as well. You've got a health is year, you know 2214 02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:15,120 Speaker 1: somebody who does, Please please take advantage of her expertise. 2215 02:03:15,160 --> 02:03:17,240 Speaker 1: It's only one of you. If you don't take care 2216 02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:19,360 Speaker 1: of your health, nobody else. It's not like you've got 2217 02:03:19,800 --> 02:03:22,640 Speaker 1: a problem with your car e computer. Also, before we 2218 02:03:22,720 --> 02:03:26,040 Speaker 1: go back to the elements, remind you tomorrow Contracosta College 2219 02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:28,360 Speaker 1: history professor Main new Mpin is going to be with 2220 02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:30,560 Speaker 1: us tomorrow, So if you're in Baltimore, make sure you 2221 02:03:30,680 --> 02:03:33,360 Speaker 1: keep that radio locked in tight on ten ten WLB. 2222 02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:36,680 Speaker 1: If you're in the DMV era, we're on fourteen fifty WOL. 2223 02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Before we left the break, we're speaking with Marie from 2224 02:03:38,920 --> 02:03:41,400 Speaker 1: a college park in Maryland and doctor A, I'll let 2225 02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:44,040 Speaker 1: you finish, is discussing she had a cocloma problem. 2226 02:03:45,160 --> 02:03:48,280 Speaker 5: I think that's what it was, no cataract. So now 2227 02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:53,200 Speaker 5: the cataract I already explained to our listenership what it is, 2228 02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:58,360 Speaker 5: and that's important to understand. Definition. Now, how do we 2229 02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:03,440 Speaker 5: holistically if we want to avoid surgery impact the cataract, 2230 02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:07,720 Speaker 5: you can actually slow the progression of the cataract and 2231 02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:13,320 Speaker 5: support the health of the eye through what same basic principles, nutrition, 2232 02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:20,880 Speaker 5: lifestyle changes in the third one because it's ocular UV protection. However, 2233 02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:25,640 Speaker 5: surgery is the only cure. So the problem is this, Carl, 2234 02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:31,560 Speaker 5: we have a large listenership that many have had traumatizing 2235 02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:37,000 Speaker 5: experiences with the white coat. It's a turnoff, okay, anything traumatizing. 2236 02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:40,920 Speaker 5: Being robbed at gunpoint is traumatizing. You may never walk 2237 02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:45,280 Speaker 5: that block again. So the same occurs with our impact 2238 02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:50,360 Speaker 5: with the healthcare system. Nonetheless, we've got to understand how 2239 02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:53,480 Speaker 5: to take our health into our hands, how to better 2240 02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:58,600 Speaker 5: understand our human body. Some of us understand vehicles and 2241 02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:02,120 Speaker 5: cars better than our O O human body. God gave 2242 02:05:02,200 --> 02:05:06,000 Speaker 5: you this body. Learn it, Okay, So we need to 2243 02:05:06,160 --> 02:05:10,880 Speaker 5: understand prevention of disease, Carl, because the time to be 2244 02:05:11,520 --> 02:05:15,440 Speaker 5: holistic is to prevent the thing, not after the terrible 2245 02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:18,640 Speaker 5: thing has happened. In other words, when it comes to cataract, 2246 02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:23,440 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be straight up. I recommend the surgery. Walking around, 2247 02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:27,600 Speaker 5: can't see anything, flutters in your eyes, can't see at night, 2248 02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:30,760 Speaker 5: You're gonna slam your car into something and potentially die. 2249 02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:34,200 Speaker 5: It is not worth the consequence. The things that can 2250 02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:39,440 Speaker 5: prevent the cataract antioxidants, Vitamin C five hundred to one 2251 02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:45,760 Speaker 5: thousand milligrams a day, Vitamin E, carrictenoids, focus on loutine 2252 02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:52,800 Speaker 5: and the affying. These are both nutrients. They're in spinach, kale, swiss, 2253 02:05:52,960 --> 02:05:57,040 Speaker 5: charred egg yolk. Some of your dietary choices. Eat a 2254 02:05:57,200 --> 02:06:03,440 Speaker 5: colorful plate. So pepper said, berries have red color, purple color, 2255 02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:08,200 Speaker 5: blue color, all kinds of orange color. Get those things 2256 02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:11,800 Speaker 5: on your plate. Eat whole grains. I always talk about 2257 02:06:11,840 --> 02:06:16,120 Speaker 5: Omega three fatty acids in terms of UV protection. Wear 2258 02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:21,360 Speaker 5: sunglasses because if you don't, you are risking cataract. Always again, 2259 02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:25,560 Speaker 5: avoids smoking. If you have a chronic health condition, manage it. 2260 02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:30,400 Speaker 5: Your eyestrain can be measured when you go to an ophthalmologis. 2261 02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:35,520 Speaker 5: So the twenty twenty twenty rule. Every twenty minutes look 2262 02:06:35,560 --> 02:06:39,000 Speaker 5: at something twenty feet away for twenty seconds. That's a 2263 02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:43,240 Speaker 5: great rule for your listenership that reduces your eyestrain. And 2264 02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:46,720 Speaker 5: as a matter of fact, what is toxic screen time 2265 02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:50,880 Speaker 5: all day? Stop doing it? Yeah, stop doing it. So 2266 02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:54,360 Speaker 5: that those are my recommendations holistic things you can do 2267 02:06:55,080 --> 02:07:01,600 Speaker 5: as well as preventive things for the entire listenership. Thank you, Tonally, 2268 02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:05,240 Speaker 5: I've been on a super calling and representing College Park. 2269 02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:08,960 Speaker 17: Yes, thank you too, big hugs, appreciate you. 2270 02:07:09,400 --> 02:07:13,200 Speaker 1: Thanks Marie from the top there, let's go to d C. 2271 02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Philip is waiting it for us online too, Grand Rising 2272 02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:16,880 Speaker 1: Philippi I with doctor A. 2273 02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:22,320 Speaker 18: Hey, good morning Carl, Good morning doctor A. Thank you 2274 02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:23,520 Speaker 18: so much for taking my call. 2275 02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:26,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in I'm in d C. 2276 02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:28,040 Speaker 11: And uh. 2277 02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:33,280 Speaker 18: Well, first of all, I just want to do Yeah, I'm. 2278 02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:34,560 Speaker 7: In d C, and uh. 2279 02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:41,680 Speaker 18: I noticed that marijuana and cannabis resellers have just popped 2280 02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:42,400 Speaker 18: up everywhere. 2281 02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:44,560 Speaker 4: And I know a lot of. 2282 02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:51,200 Speaker 18: Folks who smoke marijuana, cannabis, we you know, for different reasons, 2283 02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:54,640 Speaker 18: and I wanted to know, you know, we're sold on 2284 02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:56,760 Speaker 18: all the like the upside of it, but is there 2285 02:07:56,800 --> 02:08:01,640 Speaker 18: a downside smoking marijuana? And we in terms of ouh, 2286 02:08:01,840 --> 02:08:02,280 Speaker 18: in terms of. 2287 02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:02,959 Speaker 11: Our health. 2288 02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:13,440 Speaker 5: Number one, number one falling there are. 2289 02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:16,280 Speaker 3: Getting the feedback. 2290 02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:23,160 Speaker 5: So no, there are many, many, many reasons that our 2291 02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:29,920 Speaker 5: listenership need to be critically aware about marijuana legislation. Uh, 2292 02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:34,960 Speaker 5: the advantages, the disadvantages of use, et cetera. That's a 2293 02:08:35,120 --> 02:08:40,320 Speaker 5: very poignant question. So firstly, let me say for the listenership, Uh, 2294 02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:45,280 Speaker 5: there're marijuana laws across this country, so that now there 2295 02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:51,600 Speaker 5: is a legislation for legal uh medical marijuana. So medical 2296 02:08:51,680 --> 02:08:56,480 Speaker 5: marijuana is something that now is being regulated. Okay, so 2297 02:08:56,720 --> 02:09:00,160 Speaker 5: they know exactly what the contents and exactly what the 2298 02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:06,800 Speaker 5: strength is. Street drugs, it's the same as street anything. Okay. 2299 02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:11,440 Speaker 5: If you go to Barbados and you are buying from 2300 02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:17,320 Speaker 5: somebody on the street, a street vendor, sugarcane, it may 2301 02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:21,120 Speaker 5: be sugar, it may not. Well, the same is true 2302 02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:25,000 Speaker 5: for marijuana. What's on the street you don't know what's 2303 02:09:25,080 --> 02:09:28,640 Speaker 5: in there, and you don't know how that dealer tried 2304 02:09:28,680 --> 02:09:32,720 Speaker 5: to cut the product to make more money. Did they 2305 02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:35,800 Speaker 5: put a reagano in it? Did they put something potentially 2306 02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:40,000 Speaker 5: proxic in it? Sentinil, as we know, is being used 2307 02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:45,160 Speaker 5: to lace everything. So again, from the salesman standpoint, are 2308 02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:49,120 Speaker 5: you selling something, it's the lacing with sentinil in order 2309 02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:54,400 Speaker 5: to increase the addiction rate. Addiction leads to repeat customers. 2310 02:09:55,400 --> 02:10:01,560 Speaker 5: But dealing specifically with marijuana, really do need to be 2311 02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:05,440 Speaker 5: intelligent about what are the dangers of marijuana? 2312 02:10:05,640 --> 02:10:05,800 Speaker 12: You know? 2313 02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:10,200 Speaker 5: Again, now, our government has reason to encourage the medical 2314 02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:15,440 Speaker 5: marijuana youth because the state makes a profit. But marijuana 2315 02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:20,080 Speaker 5: use can cause impairment of your memory, It can cause 2316 02:10:20,360 --> 02:10:26,840 Speaker 5: cognitive functioning impairment. It can potentially cause permanent loss of 2317 02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:33,480 Speaker 5: IQ points, especially an adolescent. So the first thing, Philip 2318 02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:40,520 Speaker 5: is it's age sensitive, just like alcohols. No, children should 2319 02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:45,760 Speaker 5: not be smoking marijuana. Did not be encouraged to smoke marijuana. 2320 02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:50,920 Speaker 5: If there's a medical indication for a youth such as 2321 02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:56,120 Speaker 5: these are disorder which is definitely positively impacted by the 2322 02:10:56,240 --> 02:10:59,960 Speaker 5: use of marijuana, then under a doctor's supervision, a chime 2323 02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:04,240 Speaker 5: else can use medical marijuana, especially as an alternative to 2324 02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:09,960 Speaker 5: something with greater side effects or addiction risk. However, brain 2325 02:11:10,200 --> 02:11:14,800 Speaker 5: and health development is critical. When we're under twenty one. 2326 02:11:15,320 --> 02:11:18,200 Speaker 5: The first five years of life, the brain grows three 2327 02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:21,320 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty five percent, So we don't want to 2328 02:11:21,480 --> 02:11:27,000 Speaker 5: impair any of that with substances, not with alcohol, not 2329 02:11:27,160 --> 02:11:31,720 Speaker 5: even Nike will as parents know, even over the counter drugs. 2330 02:11:32,080 --> 02:11:34,240 Speaker 5: You can't just buy something over the counter and give 2331 02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:39,160 Speaker 5: it to a kid. There are specific dosages and recommendations 2332 02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:43,080 Speaker 5: for our pediatric populations. So that's the first and most 2333 02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:47,760 Speaker 5: important thing. The second most important thing is it depends 2334 02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:55,920 Speaker 5: on that individual, their psychological makeup. It depends on their groundedness, 2335 02:11:56,480 --> 02:12:06,120 Speaker 5: their censoredness, because anything that alters your perception of reality, marijuana, LSD, mushrooms, 2336 02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:09,360 Speaker 5: if you're not grounded with a sense of reality in 2337 02:12:09,400 --> 02:12:12,240 Speaker 5: the first place, you could go straight into a panic attack. 2338 02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:16,320 Speaker 5: So there are definitely people who will use marijuana or 2339 02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:18,440 Speaker 5: buy it on the streets, so who knows what all 2340 02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:23,320 Speaker 5: is this component of the substance, and they have panic attacks, 2341 02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:28,000 Speaker 5: they have anxiety, They bring out a mental health issue 2342 02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:32,600 Speaker 5: that otherwise was not present. You can bring out depression 2343 02:12:33,120 --> 02:12:37,720 Speaker 5: or suicidal ideation. The smoking in and of itself. If 2344 02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:42,080 Speaker 5: you're taking in marijuana in a smoking capacity, then you 2345 02:12:42,160 --> 02:12:46,040 Speaker 5: can cause lung damage. You can cause a chronic bronchitis. 2346 02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:50,280 Speaker 5: You can increase your blood pressure or increase your heart 2347 02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:55,120 Speaker 5: rate in a dangerous way. Your coordination can be impacted. 2348 02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:58,800 Speaker 5: I can guarantee you Simone Valves does not use marijuana. 2349 02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:02,440 Speaker 5: There's no way she could be an Olympic gymnast. Your 2350 02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:06,400 Speaker 5: reaction time is affected, so the risk for a motor 2351 02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:09,920 Speaker 5: vehicle accident. In other words, you should not be behind 2352 02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:13,600 Speaker 5: the wheel, you should not be operating machinery. So those 2353 02:13:13,720 --> 02:13:16,640 Speaker 5: are some of the concerns. When it comes to pregnancy, 2354 02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:21,880 Speaker 5: there's a link to fetal growth, premature birth, and long 2355 02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:26,360 Speaker 5: term cognitive issues. So again, when it comes to developmental years, 2356 02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:30,440 Speaker 5: we need to be hypersensitive to that age group. And 2357 02:13:30,520 --> 02:13:33,400 Speaker 5: when it comes to our adult population, we need to 2358 02:13:33,600 --> 02:13:37,360 Speaker 5: use discernment. Philip, thank you so much for putting this 2359 02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:40,520 Speaker 5: critical issue on the table. I advise all of the 2360 02:13:40,640 --> 02:13:46,480 Speaker 5: listenership to be mindful and knowledgeable about marijuana legislation across 2361 02:13:46,520 --> 02:13:50,160 Speaker 5: this country. Different states have different laws. Better for you 2362 02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:53,800 Speaker 5: to know ahead of the games than find out in 2363 02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:54,880 Speaker 5: some circumstance. 2364 02:13:56,480 --> 02:13:58,720 Speaker 1: And let me add this, I'm Philip, just hung up, 2365 02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:01,879 Speaker 1: doctor A. What about people who were who were addicted 2366 02:14:01,920 --> 02:14:05,120 Speaker 1: to marijuana? Is there any hell for those folks? 2367 02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:11,800 Speaker 5: Yes? So they need rehab the same as any other addiction. Thankfully, 2368 02:14:12,360 --> 02:14:16,120 Speaker 5: one thing this country does not lack our centers for 2369 02:14:16,840 --> 02:14:24,520 Speaker 5: addressing addiction and rehabilitation. You are almost impossible to actually 2370 02:14:24,640 --> 02:14:29,960 Speaker 5: be addicted to marijuana in a physiological way. Thankfully. You're 2371 02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:35,520 Speaker 5: much more likely to become addicted to nicotine to become 2372 02:14:35,560 --> 02:14:40,920 Speaker 5: addicted to alcohol. So most people who indulge in marijuana, 2373 02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:44,120 Speaker 5: whether it's the medical marijuana or something that they bought 2374 02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:47,440 Speaker 5: on the street, are not actually going to experience a 2375 02:14:47,600 --> 02:14:52,400 Speaker 5: physiological addiction. Now psychological, Carl, that's a whole different thing, right. 2376 02:14:52,760 --> 02:14:56,400 Speaker 5: We could be psychologically addicted to a number of things, 2377 02:14:57,000 --> 02:15:02,560 Speaker 5: including the television, including social media. Yeah, that engages discipline. 2378 02:15:02,840 --> 02:15:04,960 Speaker 5: And that is why I said from the very beginning, 2379 02:15:05,400 --> 02:15:10,440 Speaker 5: the composition of a human being psychologically and mentally has 2380 02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:14,480 Speaker 5: a lot to do with how the risk of marijuana 2381 02:15:14,760 --> 02:15:19,480 Speaker 5: may manifest in that individual's life. Someone who is off 2382 02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:22,880 Speaker 5: the center to begin with could be knocked right off 2383 02:15:22,920 --> 02:15:26,680 Speaker 5: the plate, so very very excellent points that we're bringing 2384 02:15:26,760 --> 02:15:30,560 Speaker 5: up this morning. Addiction needs to be addressed professionally. 2385 02:15:32,200 --> 02:15:34,320 Speaker 1: Got you seven away from the top of that. Robinson, 2386 02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:37,440 Speaker 1: Baltimore City. He's next day's online three grand rising, Robert, 2387 02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:38,680 Speaker 1: your question for doctor a. 2388 02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:45,160 Speaker 8: Grand rising everyone. I'm sixty seventy years old, and i 2389 02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:49,320 Speaker 8: got a question about bubbles in your urn when you 2390 02:15:49,520 --> 02:15:50,720 Speaker 8: when you go to bathroom? 2391 02:15:51,080 --> 02:15:55,800 Speaker 5: Uh, you said, what what in your urin? I didn't 2392 02:15:55,840 --> 02:15:59,920 Speaker 5: hear the word what did bubbles bubble? 2393 02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:05,040 Speaker 8: Yes, it's a lot of stuff on on on the 2394 02:16:05,160 --> 02:16:09,400 Speaker 8: internet and all about uh, your kidneys. It's got something 2395 02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:10,400 Speaker 8: to do with your kidneys. 2396 02:16:10,720 --> 02:16:10,840 Speaker 5: Uh. 2397 02:16:11,440 --> 02:16:12,880 Speaker 15: If the bubbles are. 2398 02:16:12,920 --> 02:16:18,640 Speaker 8: Dump uh yellow, you got a problem? Well with me myself. 2399 02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:23,640 Speaker 8: Minds are clear and it's and I'm not constantly uh 2400 02:16:24,760 --> 02:16:27,680 Speaker 8: peeing out bubbles like so, but so can you tell 2401 02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:28,240 Speaker 8: me about that? 2402 02:16:32,520 --> 02:16:32,880 Speaker 3: All right? 2403 02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:38,240 Speaker 5: Thank you, Robert, Thank you, Robert number one, Thank you 2404 02:16:38,520 --> 02:16:42,600 Speaker 5: so very much for calling in this morning. Bubbles in 2405 02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:45,440 Speaker 5: the urine. Even though Robert, you're giving us your age, 2406 02:16:45,560 --> 02:16:49,720 Speaker 5: that's a super super general symptom. So for the listenership 2407 02:16:49,800 --> 02:16:55,640 Speaker 5: to understand, that's very very broad and so the answer 2408 02:16:55,800 --> 02:16:59,440 Speaker 5: is going to be very very broad. There's so many 2409 02:16:59,800 --> 02:17:03,600 Speaker 5: things that that can really mean. The first thing, Robert, 2410 02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:08,040 Speaker 5: I recommend you take that sample of urine to a 2411 02:17:08,200 --> 02:17:12,960 Speaker 5: healthcare facility and let it be tested. Okay, we all 2412 02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:15,760 Speaker 5: know how to give a urine sample, whether you go 2413 02:17:16,040 --> 02:17:21,000 Speaker 5: to the clinic, they then take your urine in a cup, 2414 02:17:21,560 --> 02:17:24,360 Speaker 5: they send that to a laboratory. Then we can be 2415 02:17:24,560 --> 02:17:27,640 Speaker 5: very clear and not guessing about what the bubbles mean, 2416 02:17:27,840 --> 02:17:32,160 Speaker 5: because it really can mean so many different things. Most 2417 02:17:32,320 --> 02:17:37,160 Speaker 5: commonly it is harmless caused by something like urinating too fast, 2418 02:17:37,680 --> 02:17:42,080 Speaker 5: being dehydrated, or actually the cleaning products of the toilet. 2419 02:17:42,760 --> 02:17:47,520 Speaker 5: So usually that's a temporary thing and it's not anything 2420 02:17:47,640 --> 02:17:52,680 Speaker 5: that's serious. However, Robert, when it's persistent, when it's a 2421 02:17:52,920 --> 02:17:57,360 Speaker 5: thick type of bubbles, when there's a consistent foam, not 2422 02:17:57,560 --> 02:18:01,280 Speaker 5: just bubbles, but foam coming with your urine, then that 2423 02:18:01,400 --> 02:18:04,880 Speaker 5: can really indicate you got protein in your urine. We 2424 02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:07,800 Speaker 5: talked at the start of the show about kidney damage 2425 02:18:08,560 --> 02:18:12,680 Speaker 5: five stages. So unless you send your urine for testing, 2426 02:18:13,280 --> 02:18:16,400 Speaker 5: you don't know if you have a urinary infection. You 2427 02:18:16,480 --> 02:18:19,240 Speaker 5: don't know if you have a bladder infection. You don't 2428 02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:21,800 Speaker 5: know if you have kidney disease, you don't know. If 2429 02:18:21,840 --> 02:18:25,800 Speaker 5: you're diabetic, you don't know any of those things. If 2430 02:18:26,120 --> 02:18:30,120 Speaker 5: the bubbles are thick and soapy, or they're persistent, you 2431 02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:31,199 Speaker 5: got to see a doctor. 2432 02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:33,240 Speaker 17: If you notice. 2433 02:18:32,959 --> 02:18:36,880 Speaker 5: Swelling in your hands, your feet, your face, your stomach, 2434 02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:40,600 Speaker 5: and that's going along with the bubbly urine, you need 2435 02:18:40,720 --> 02:18:45,120 Speaker 5: to see a doctor. If your urine is dark colored, bloody, 2436 02:18:45,520 --> 02:18:49,440 Speaker 5: or it's cloudy, those are red flags to see a doctor. 2437 02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:55,000 Speaker 5: Burning when you pee means potentially a bladder infection. So 2438 02:18:55,400 --> 02:18:59,440 Speaker 5: when we have protein in our urine, it's extremely concerning 2439 02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:03,360 Speaker 5: because when you leak protein into your urine, that's an 2440 02:19:03,480 --> 02:19:09,600 Speaker 5: indicator for kidney damage dehydration. Urine can look foamier than 2441 02:19:09,720 --> 02:19:15,680 Speaker 5: normal when we peek quickly rapid urination, the force of 2442 02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:20,320 Speaker 5: the urine stream can trap air and create the bubbles, 2443 02:19:20,440 --> 02:19:24,040 Speaker 5: and that's a false alarm. When you have a bladder infection, 2444 02:19:24,760 --> 02:19:28,520 Speaker 5: you can have bacteria that are making gases causing the bubbles. 2445 02:19:29,280 --> 02:19:32,800 Speaker 5: If you're diabetic or you have high blood pressure damaging 2446 02:19:32,879 --> 02:19:36,120 Speaker 5: your kidneys over time and you're leaking urine, that's a 2447 02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:41,199 Speaker 5: serious cause. For some men, your semen actually goes into 2448 02:19:41,240 --> 02:19:44,200 Speaker 5: your bladder instead of coming out your penis. Now in 2449 02:19:44,320 --> 02:19:48,800 Speaker 5: that case, that's another big problem. That's called retrograde ejaculation. 2450 02:19:49,080 --> 02:19:53,680 Speaker 5: You're ejaculating into your bladder. So then that's a cause 2451 02:19:53,760 --> 02:19:58,920 Speaker 5: for foamy urine. You need to see a doctor, all right. 2452 02:20:00,200 --> 02:20:01,760 Speaker 1: For your call, we got to step aside so our 2453 02:20:01,760 --> 02:20:04,920 Speaker 1: stations can identify themselves down the line. I thank you 2454 02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:07,840 Speaker 1: for your call, and we've got to move on eight 2455 02:20:07,959 --> 02:20:10,160 Speaker 1: hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. 2456 02:20:10,200 --> 02:20:11,760 Speaker 1: You got a health issue, a question, or you know 2457 02:20:11,879 --> 02:20:14,320 Speaker 1: somebody who does, reach out to our doctor, doctor A, 2458 02:20:14,440 --> 02:20:16,879 Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls next and grand Rising 2459 02:20:16,920 --> 02:20:18,880 Speaker 1: and family, thanks to staying with us on this Wellness 2460 02:20:18,920 --> 02:20:21,480 Speaker 1: Wednesday with our guest Doctor A. As I mentioned, doctor 2461 02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:26,199 Speaker 1: A is a holistic doctor and also a traditional medical doctor. 2462 02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:28,160 Speaker 1: You know she wears that white suit, but she also 2463 02:20:28,200 --> 02:20:31,000 Speaker 1: will give you holistic, a natural pathic response. If you 2464 02:20:31,080 --> 02:20:34,360 Speaker 1: got a health issue and that listen, family, you only 2465 02:20:34,400 --> 02:20:36,840 Speaker 1: have one life. You know, it's not like your car. 2466 02:20:36,959 --> 02:20:40,000 Speaker 1: You could get another car, another computer. Take care, be 2467 02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:43,240 Speaker 1: progressive when it comes to your health. If you've got 2468 02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:45,480 Speaker 1: a health issue or you just need a second opinion 2469 02:20:45,560 --> 02:20:49,480 Speaker 1: on something, please please take advantage of doctor A's expertise. 2470 02:20:49,800 --> 02:20:51,560 Speaker 1: You don't have to use your real name or real city. 2471 02:20:51,600 --> 02:20:53,480 Speaker 1: But please take adventa because nobody else is coming to 2472 02:20:53,560 --> 02:20:54,640 Speaker 1: help you. It's your issue. 2473 02:20:54,680 --> 02:20:55,400 Speaker 4: You know what it is. 2474 02:20:55,879 --> 02:20:58,040 Speaker 1: And the doctor tells you something you're not comfortable with 2475 02:20:58,200 --> 02:21:00,360 Speaker 1: or you know, you always get another opinion for another 2476 02:21:00,440 --> 02:21:03,400 Speaker 1: mechanic or another computer guy. But if there's another doctor, 2477 02:21:03,520 --> 02:21:07,200 Speaker 1: sometimes not so take advantage of doctor A. Eight hundred 2478 02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:10,240 Speaker 1: and four five zero seventy eight seventy six. That's the 2479 02:21:10,280 --> 02:21:12,920 Speaker 1: number to call. This meet to doctor A. Johnny's reaching 2480 02:21:12,959 --> 02:21:15,600 Speaker 1: out to us from Long Beach in California. He's online 2481 02:21:15,640 --> 02:21:17,680 Speaker 1: six grand rising, Johnny, You're on with doctor A. 2482 02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:27,160 Speaker 10: Grand right, doctor, and that'sporked you last month. The reason 2483 02:21:27,160 --> 02:21:29,320 Speaker 10: why I'm calling it this because on the thirteenth I 2484 02:21:29,440 --> 02:21:32,880 Speaker 10: got some disturbing news and I just needed I won 2485 02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:34,600 Speaker 10: the second opinion. I don't know you're coming up this 2486 02:21:34,600 --> 02:21:39,720 Speaker 10: swarning with thankful that you are. I've ignagnosed with possible 2487 02:21:41,080 --> 02:21:46,920 Speaker 10: Alzheimer's in dementia and I wanted, I was gonna wanted 2488 02:21:46,959 --> 02:21:49,080 Speaker 10: to ask you, is there a way that I can 2489 02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:51,000 Speaker 10: slow down the question of it. 2490 02:21:54,959 --> 02:21:57,760 Speaker 5: Well, firstly, let me give you all of my love 2491 02:21:57,840 --> 02:22:02,800 Speaker 5: and all of my support. The strongest, most powerful forces 2492 02:22:03,680 --> 02:22:08,280 Speaker 5: that are keeping this show on the air decade after decade, 2493 02:22:08,440 --> 02:22:12,440 Speaker 5: generation after generation is the fact that it's syndicated across 2494 02:22:12,520 --> 02:22:15,680 Speaker 5: the country and you're waking up in California. You love 2495 02:22:15,800 --> 02:22:18,640 Speaker 5: Carl Nelson, you love doctor A. I want to give 2496 02:22:18,720 --> 02:22:21,920 Speaker 5: that love back to you tenfold. Okay. I want to 2497 02:22:22,040 --> 02:22:25,800 Speaker 5: let you know you're going to have victory over Alzheimer's. 2498 02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:28,920 Speaker 5: I want to let you know you have victory right 2499 02:22:28,959 --> 02:22:32,560 Speaker 5: at this moment. So there are many different stages to 2500 02:22:32,680 --> 02:22:35,840 Speaker 5: memory loss, but one of the things is if we 2501 02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:38,520 Speaker 5: ever want to be proactive about a matter, it is 2502 02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:44,080 Speaker 5: about this matter right here. Okay. Alzheimer's is a progressive 2503 02:22:44,360 --> 02:22:50,280 Speaker 5: loss of memory, difficulty in planning or completing familiar tasks, 2504 02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:55,280 Speaker 5: confusion about what time or what place. There can be 2505 02:22:55,480 --> 02:22:59,640 Speaker 5: language problems. A lot of times the early signs get missed, 2506 02:23:00,320 --> 02:23:03,680 Speaker 5: getting swept under the table. So I'm so proud of you, 2507 02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:07,160 Speaker 5: not just for waking up and listening to Carl early 2508 02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:11,360 Speaker 5: in the morning in California, but also for getting into 2509 02:23:11,480 --> 02:23:16,800 Speaker 5: your healthcare provider getting concrete knowledge, because knowledge is power. 2510 02:23:16,959 --> 02:23:19,840 Speaker 5: My brother, You're going to take all the knowledge you've 2511 02:23:19,879 --> 02:23:24,120 Speaker 5: been given, because so many of our black, brown brothers 2512 02:23:24,200 --> 02:23:28,000 Speaker 5: and sisters don't even know they have this condition, and 2513 02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:31,440 Speaker 5: they're fading away right in front of our faith. Thank 2514 02:23:31,520 --> 02:23:35,240 Speaker 5: you God that you have power in the tool given 2515 02:23:35,360 --> 02:23:38,600 Speaker 5: to you so that you can be proactive. There's an 2516 02:23:38,680 --> 02:23:44,240 Speaker 5: Alzheimer's Association, one of the most powerful organizations in this country. 2517 02:23:44,760 --> 02:23:47,039 Speaker 5: If ever there was a time. You know, we started 2518 02:23:47,080 --> 02:23:50,959 Speaker 5: the show talking about the clown that led us into war. That's, 2519 02:23:51,240 --> 02:23:53,000 Speaker 5: you know, not a reason to be proud to be 2520 02:23:53,040 --> 02:23:56,320 Speaker 5: American at all, but one of the reasons to be proud. 2521 02:23:56,800 --> 02:24:00,400 Speaker 5: This country, thanks to many ancestors now dead and gone, 2522 02:24:00,840 --> 02:24:04,920 Speaker 5: has fought for so many rights. American with Disabilities Act 2523 02:24:05,240 --> 02:24:08,520 Speaker 5: one of the most powerful things to level the playing field. 2524 02:24:09,000 --> 02:24:13,360 Speaker 5: And the Alzheimer's Association. I marched with them in the 2525 02:24:13,400 --> 02:24:17,680 Speaker 5: state of Illinois in the year twenty seventeen. I'm marched 2526 02:24:17,800 --> 02:24:22,080 Speaker 5: in the capital of Springfield, Illinois about the rights of 2527 02:24:22,160 --> 02:24:26,880 Speaker 5: the Alzheimer's Association. They wear purple. They are powerful across 2528 02:24:26,959 --> 02:24:32,840 Speaker 5: this country because, thank God, Alzheimer's effects across the color spectrum. Okay, 2529 02:24:33,400 --> 02:24:36,760 Speaker 5: so our Caucasian brothers and sisters, they have skin in 2530 02:24:36,840 --> 02:24:39,960 Speaker 5: this game. So, brother, we're gonna win this one. This 2531 02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:42,480 Speaker 5: is a war we're not gonna lose. This is one 2532 02:24:42,520 --> 02:24:46,440 Speaker 5: where black and brown, we're not disproportionately affected. We are 2533 02:24:46,600 --> 02:24:51,400 Speaker 5: all affected as God's people. So, whether you're having memories 2534 02:24:51,520 --> 02:24:56,879 Speaker 5: loss that disrupts your daily life for the listenership challenges 2535 02:24:57,120 --> 02:25:01,760 Speaker 5: in planning and solving problems like challenges with a budget, 2536 02:25:02,320 --> 02:25:06,119 Speaker 5: challenges with a recipe, challenges keeping track of your bills. 2537 02:25:06,360 --> 02:25:12,200 Speaker 5: These are the early subtle signs forgetting recent information. Once 2538 02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:17,120 Speaker 5: it's more advanced, there can be personality changes, severe disorientation, 2539 02:25:17,959 --> 02:25:21,440 Speaker 5: inability to perform basic self care. But we don't have 2540 02:25:21,520 --> 02:25:25,119 Speaker 5: to let it get that advance at all. Once there 2541 02:25:25,280 --> 02:25:29,760 Speaker 5: is any level of difficulty completing a task, that is 2542 02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:33,920 Speaker 5: the time you want to begin proactive things. When your 2543 02:25:34,040 --> 02:25:38,199 Speaker 5: judgment is poor, long before your personality has changed, that's 2544 02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:40,920 Speaker 5: when we need to begin some of the things that 2545 02:25:41,040 --> 02:25:44,760 Speaker 5: we're going to do. So even things such as memory games, 2546 02:25:45,200 --> 02:25:50,960 Speaker 5: crossword puzzles, simple exercises that you write down lists, you 2547 02:25:51,160 --> 02:25:56,200 Speaker 5: keep track of calendars. Okay, I'm a practicing physician. I 2548 02:25:56,360 --> 02:25:58,760 Speaker 5: can't keep track of life if I don't have a calendar. 2549 02:26:00,160 --> 02:26:02,920 Speaker 5: Spoke to a group of eleventh grade high school students, 2550 02:26:03,200 --> 02:26:06,160 Speaker 5: and I told them, does everybody have a twenty twenty 2551 02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:09,440 Speaker 5: six calendar? Because how can you be organized if you don't, 2552 02:26:09,879 --> 02:26:13,200 Speaker 5: So you begin to change your routine. The same as 2553 02:26:13,320 --> 02:26:18,680 Speaker 5: people who have visual impairment, they need braille, they need 2554 02:26:18,840 --> 02:26:22,320 Speaker 5: things to assist them so that they can function without vision. 2555 02:26:22,800 --> 02:26:26,160 Speaker 5: People who have hearing loss they need to adapt their 2556 02:26:26,280 --> 02:26:32,360 Speaker 5: living circumstances so that they can function without hearing. There's 2557 02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:37,640 Speaker 5: a spectacular show that my husband's addicted to. What is 2558 02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:44,160 Speaker 5: the guy's name, not Blade Runner? Oh, I'm blanking on 2559 02:26:44,280 --> 02:26:46,680 Speaker 5: his name. The audience is going to know. But the 2560 02:26:46,760 --> 02:26:49,480 Speaker 5: boy is he's a blind man and he's a superhero 2561 02:26:50,400 --> 02:26:55,360 Speaker 5: and his hearing is so sensitive he can almost hear 2562 02:26:55,920 --> 02:26:58,840 Speaker 5: how to unlock their devil that's his name. 2563 02:26:59,160 --> 02:26:59,920 Speaker 16: He can hear how. 2564 02:27:00,160 --> 02:27:04,600 Speaker 5: Unlock a lock because this hearing is super sensitive. So again, 2565 02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:09,279 Speaker 5: the loss of one of our senses, the sense of thinking. 2566 02:27:09,760 --> 02:27:12,360 Speaker 5: And I talked in an earlier show that it's the 2567 02:27:12,560 --> 02:27:16,400 Speaker 5: white you're acentric model that we have five senses. We 2568 02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:20,440 Speaker 5: really have more of seven or eight, and the thinking 2569 02:27:20,879 --> 02:27:24,240 Speaker 5: is one of our senses. That's what distinguishes us from 2570 02:27:24,280 --> 02:27:28,960 Speaker 5: animals when we are losing our sense of thought. We're 2571 02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:33,560 Speaker 5: gaining another sense. So be cognizant of what sense in 2572 02:27:33,680 --> 02:27:40,920 Speaker 5: your body is being highlighted, taste, smell, hearing, seeing, and 2573 02:27:41,240 --> 02:27:46,879 Speaker 5: for thinking. Make the necessary adaptations. Contact the Alzheimer's Association, 2574 02:27:47,480 --> 02:27:52,560 Speaker 5: start doing crossword puzzles and memory games. Engage support groups 2575 02:27:52,879 --> 02:27:55,840 Speaker 5: because you're going to win this war. And I'm so 2576 02:27:56,040 --> 02:27:57,800 Speaker 5: proud of you for being proactive. 2577 02:27:59,120 --> 02:28:06,119 Speaker 10: No, I want to this. It's Alzheimer's is about indentity, 2578 02:28:06,160 --> 02:28:09,960 Speaker 10: It's about memory loss. That's that's the main point about it. 2579 02:28:10,040 --> 02:28:10,760 Speaker 12: Is that true? 2580 02:28:12,800 --> 02:28:15,560 Speaker 5: You got it, You got it, You got it. It 2581 02:28:15,680 --> 02:28:19,800 Speaker 5: doesn't have a cure, but current treatments focus on managing 2582 02:28:19,879 --> 02:28:23,160 Speaker 5: the symptoms and flowing the progression while you're still at 2583 02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:24,200 Speaker 5: an early stage. 2584 02:28:24,680 --> 02:28:28,080 Speaker 10: You got it, Yeah, we got I watched three you know, 2585 02:28:28,160 --> 02:28:30,240 Speaker 10: two people I love and care for. I watched them 2586 02:28:30,320 --> 02:28:33,880 Speaker 10: going through it. And it is painful too. Is it 2587 02:28:34,360 --> 02:28:35,800 Speaker 10: pain associated with with this? 2588 02:28:37,959 --> 02:28:41,120 Speaker 5: As you move into the later stages, like I said, 2589 02:28:41,680 --> 02:28:46,840 Speaker 5: where perception is off and your your sensory uh engagement 2590 02:28:47,080 --> 02:28:50,520 Speaker 5: becomes off, now that's when you're talking about physical pain. 2591 02:28:50,920 --> 02:28:55,000 Speaker 5: The earlier stages of Alzheimer's disease do not involve physical pain. 2592 02:28:55,680 --> 02:28:59,560 Speaker 5: But here's the beauty. There are actually treatments. So there 2593 02:28:59,600 --> 02:29:02,960 Speaker 5: are now FDA approved medications because, like I said, the 2594 02:29:03,040 --> 02:29:07,879 Speaker 5: Alzheimer's Association is very powerful. They have lobbyists in Congress 2595 02:29:08,040 --> 02:29:12,000 Speaker 5: and incentate, they are on top of legislation in this country. 2596 02:29:12,520 --> 02:29:15,520 Speaker 5: And so now their medications that we didn't have ten 2597 02:29:15,600 --> 02:29:21,480 Speaker 5: twenty years ago to actually address preventing progression of this disease. 2598 02:29:22,520 --> 02:29:27,480 Speaker 5: And so if you're already engaging specialists to actually get 2599 02:29:27,560 --> 02:29:32,199 Speaker 5: that appropriate diagnosis, as you did, engage those same specialists 2600 02:29:32,240 --> 02:29:36,840 Speaker 5: about what are the therapeutic options available to you. Lifestyle 2601 02:29:37,000 --> 02:29:41,280 Speaker 5: change is holistic living, eating whole grain foods, coloring your 2602 02:29:41,360 --> 02:29:45,200 Speaker 5: plate with all the antioxidants, all the nutrients, all the 2603 02:29:45,360 --> 02:29:48,760 Speaker 5: berries that I've been talking about al show. But even 2604 02:29:48,879 --> 02:29:54,480 Speaker 5: more poignantly, are there medications to slow the progression of 2605 02:29:54,760 --> 02:29:59,680 Speaker 5: your early stage Alzheimer's disease? You want to inquire about that. 2606 02:30:01,280 --> 02:30:03,960 Speaker 1: I had a couple of questions for you, doctor, and 2607 02:30:04,080 --> 02:30:06,960 Speaker 1: thank you Johnny for your call. One is it hereditary? 2608 02:30:07,440 --> 02:30:09,440 Speaker 1: Two is because there's a lot of people coming down 2609 02:30:09,480 --> 02:30:12,400 Speaker 1: with the issue. Two they're connected to people who took 2610 02:30:12,480 --> 02:30:14,960 Speaker 1: the shot. Is there any truth to that? The second 2611 02:30:15,000 --> 02:30:17,680 Speaker 1: one to both questions, but right. 2612 02:30:17,680 --> 02:30:23,760 Speaker 5: Both are poignant questions first and foremost. While dementia is 2613 02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:28,720 Speaker 5: known to be quote hereditary, meaning yes, we see family 2614 02:30:28,879 --> 02:30:38,359 Speaker 5: lineages of this pattern of dementia, Alzheimer's is actually plaque 2615 02:30:38,560 --> 02:30:43,279 Speaker 5: development on the brain. And so what we're now dealing 2616 02:30:43,360 --> 02:30:47,920 Speaker 5: with in terms of the treatment, the treatments actually target 2617 02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:53,120 Speaker 5: and try to remove amyloid plaques on the brain. So 2618 02:30:53,920 --> 02:30:57,320 Speaker 5: that is really what is known now to be positive. 2619 02:30:57,920 --> 02:30:58,959 Speaker 13: Does the JAB. 2620 02:30:59,240 --> 02:31:03,080 Speaker 5: Contribute to the development of Alzheimer's, We've got to put 2621 02:31:03,160 --> 02:31:06,680 Speaker 5: money and attention to that, Carl. We've talked about this 2622 02:31:06,840 --> 02:31:10,600 Speaker 5: on many different shows, and a lot of the problem, 2623 02:31:11,080 --> 02:31:14,960 Speaker 5: to be very very frank with you, is that we 2624 02:31:15,200 --> 02:31:17,400 Speaker 5: study the things that we want to know an answer to, 2625 02:31:17,840 --> 02:31:20,680 Speaker 5: and there's so many things in this country that we 2626 02:31:21,120 --> 02:31:26,279 Speaker 5: as a very conscientious, intentional community, we'd like the answers. 2627 02:31:26,600 --> 02:31:30,240 Speaker 5: We're not coughing up the money and giving the funding 2628 02:31:30,560 --> 02:31:35,200 Speaker 5: for those things to be properly investigated at all. So 2629 02:31:35,480 --> 02:31:38,640 Speaker 5: there's so many things that you're asking great questions, we 2630 02:31:38,720 --> 02:31:43,840 Speaker 5: don't have the answers. Long term negative consequences of the 2631 02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:48,520 Speaker 5: JAB have not been properly studied, have not been studied 2632 02:31:48,560 --> 02:31:52,680 Speaker 5: in sufficient detail at all. Alzheimer's is thought to be 2633 02:31:52,879 --> 02:31:59,400 Speaker 5: caused by an abnormal accumulation of amyloid blacks in the brain. 2634 02:32:00,120 --> 02:32:05,440 Speaker 5: These plaques destroy the nerve cells. These plaques interrupt communication. 2635 02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:10,840 Speaker 5: These plaques cause shrinkage of the brain. It's not fully 2636 02:32:11,040 --> 02:32:18,640 Speaker 5: understood exactly what combination of things triggers the development of 2637 02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:24,600 Speaker 5: these amyloid plaques. So there are many potential biological reasons 2638 02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:30,039 Speaker 5: that are causing this, but again, more research is needed. 2639 02:32:30,959 --> 02:32:36,560 Speaker 5: More research is needed. What are amyloid plaques sticky protein 2640 02:32:37,480 --> 02:32:42,160 Speaker 5: sticky protein fragments that are building up between your nerve 2641 02:32:42,280 --> 02:32:48,160 Speaker 5: cells and blocking communication. What are towel tangles? That's another 2642 02:32:48,240 --> 02:32:53,960 Speaker 5: word associated with Alzheimer's. They're proteins that collapse the internal 2643 02:32:54,120 --> 02:32:58,879 Speaker 5: transport system within the cell itself, so it literally kills 2644 02:32:58,959 --> 02:33:04,200 Speaker 5: the cell. How does brain damage happen? The nerve cells die, 2645 02:33:04,920 --> 02:33:10,840 Speaker 5: the brain strengths, and the areas responsible basically go away. 2646 02:33:11,480 --> 02:33:15,279 Speaker 5: So the areas of our brain responsible for memory strength, 2647 02:33:15,959 --> 02:33:20,680 Speaker 5: the cells responsible for memory die. Age is the number 2648 02:33:20,760 --> 02:33:25,520 Speaker 5: one risk factor for Alzheimer's disease. A family history of 2649 02:33:25,560 --> 02:33:30,640 Speaker 5: Alzheimer's can increase your risk. But the most poignant thing 2650 02:33:30,840 --> 02:33:37,960 Speaker 5: is really the Apoe gene. So once again, prior to 2651 02:33:38,040 --> 02:33:41,360 Speaker 5: be coming on this show, for two hours of listener calls, 2652 02:33:41,840 --> 02:33:46,240 Speaker 5: we had an expert talking about how our genes really 2653 02:33:46,360 --> 02:33:51,800 Speaker 5: affect what manifests well. Because all persons of all ethnicities 2654 02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:57,000 Speaker 5: get Alzheimer's, it has been thoroughly researched and studied in 2655 02:33:57,120 --> 02:34:00,760 Speaker 5: a way. We wish things we were just before affected 2656 02:34:00,879 --> 02:34:03,840 Speaker 5: by would get studied so we don't found the gene 2657 02:34:05,720 --> 02:34:10,920 Speaker 5: black people, we get it go and get genetic counseling, 2658 02:34:11,480 --> 02:34:15,760 Speaker 5: genetic testing that is free to you with your health care, 2659 02:34:16,080 --> 02:34:20,960 Speaker 5: with your primary health visit, you can find out do 2660 02:34:21,120 --> 02:34:27,080 Speaker 5: I have this apoe gene that's associated with Alzheimer's development. 2661 02:34:28,640 --> 02:34:33,920 Speaker 5: Also heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, smoking, all 2662 02:34:34,000 --> 02:34:38,840 Speaker 5: the things we are disproportionately affected by. They can increase 2663 02:34:39,160 --> 02:34:44,320 Speaker 5: your risk for Alzheimer's. If you've had a traumatic brain injury, 2664 02:34:44,800 --> 02:34:49,280 Speaker 5: that will increase your risk. People with Down syndrome out 2665 02:34:49,360 --> 02:34:54,040 Speaker 5: the gate, Okay, they have a chromosomal condition that is 2666 02:34:54,080 --> 02:35:00,320 Speaker 5: what caused the Down syndrome, so they develop Alzheimer's because 2667 02:35:00,360 --> 02:35:05,680 Speaker 5: of that chromosomal abnormality that led to Down syndrome. They're 2668 02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:08,080 Speaker 5: going to later in life if they get to that 2669 02:35:08,240 --> 02:35:12,880 Speaker 5: age develop these amyloid plaques. There's so many things about 2670 02:35:12,920 --> 02:35:16,760 Speaker 5: Alzheimer's that we need to more thoroughly understand. But it's 2671 02:35:16,920 --> 02:35:21,000 Speaker 5: a great, great topic because it is affecting more and 2672 02:35:21,240 --> 02:35:26,440 Speaker 5: more people. Yes, it's becoming more prevalent. It's becoming more recognized. 2673 02:35:26,879 --> 02:35:29,360 Speaker 5: You had people walking around don't know who they are 2674 02:35:29,800 --> 02:35:32,240 Speaker 5: or where they are, and no one cared about them. 2675 02:35:32,480 --> 02:35:36,400 Speaker 5: They were invisible. So invisible people are becoming more visible. 2676 02:35:37,720 --> 02:35:39,280 Speaker 1: Right and whole leftought right there, We've got to step 2677 02:35:39,280 --> 02:35:40,080 Speaker 1: aside for a few moments. 2678 02:35:40,120 --> 02:35:40,480 Speaker 3: We come back. 2679 02:35:40,520 --> 02:35:42,000 Speaker 1: We still got some folks want to talk to you. 2680 02:35:42,360 --> 02:35:45,160 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six. 2681 02:35:45,240 --> 02:35:47,400 Speaker 1: You got a health challenge? You know somebody who does 2682 02:35:47,640 --> 02:35:49,280 Speaker 1: reach out to us and we'll take your phone calls 2683 02:35:49,440 --> 02:35:51,920 Speaker 1: next angrand Rising family, thanks for staying with us on 2684 02:35:52,000 --> 02:35:55,120 Speaker 1: this Wellness Wednesday with our guest doctor, a doctor as 2685 02:35:55,600 --> 02:35:58,720 Speaker 1: a naturro panic doctor. It's social traditional physician as well. 2686 02:35:58,879 --> 02:36:01,200 Speaker 1: So we've got an issue or you know somebody that does. 2687 02:36:01,480 --> 02:36:03,520 Speaker 1: You know you want people know your name to just 2688 02:36:03,760 --> 02:36:06,760 Speaker 1: just use differency. It doesn't matter, but take care and 2689 02:36:06,920 --> 02:36:10,720 Speaker 1: take advantage of her expertise. Let's go to line for see. 2690 02:36:11,120 --> 02:36:13,680 Speaker 1: Sister is calling from cap Heights here, Maryland. Is the 2691 02:36:13,760 --> 02:36:20,440 Speaker 1: c your question for doctor A. You see they're online. 2692 02:36:20,480 --> 02:36:20,640 Speaker 3: Four. 2693 02:36:22,160 --> 02:36:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm not hearing she All right, listen, yes we can 2694 02:36:26,280 --> 02:36:26,480 Speaker 1: hear you. 2695 02:36:26,600 --> 02:36:31,000 Speaker 19: Now go ahead, okay, brandwriting, I wanted to know what's 2696 02:36:31,040 --> 02:36:36,080 Speaker 19: actors could get holistically for epilepsy. 2697 02:36:39,160 --> 02:36:42,360 Speaker 5: Okay, well that's can you be even more specific? Give 2698 02:36:42,480 --> 02:36:49,680 Speaker 5: me what was the diagnosis in terms of cause of 2699 02:36:49,800 --> 02:36:55,879 Speaker 5: epiles epilepsy, age of the person affected, and what they're 2700 02:36:55,959 --> 02:36:57,959 Speaker 5: currently doing for the epilepsy. 2701 02:37:00,520 --> 02:37:08,200 Speaker 19: Okay, cause was not given. The age was probably fifty five. 2702 02:37:09,160 --> 02:37:17,480 Speaker 19: And they're not taking their prescribement that I forgot what 2703 02:37:17,560 --> 02:37:22,199 Speaker 19: it's called into the p I think, but they don't 2704 02:37:22,240 --> 02:37:24,840 Speaker 19: have them often, maybe one or two a year. 2705 02:37:24,959 --> 02:37:29,120 Speaker 5: This person has been diagnosed with this over decades of time. 2706 02:37:30,760 --> 02:37:33,480 Speaker 16: No, No, like twenty eighteen. 2707 02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:39,360 Speaker 5: Okay, so kind of a new onset of epilepsy. Yes, 2708 02:37:40,840 --> 02:37:44,040 Speaker 5: and they were never really told why they had a 2709 02:37:44,200 --> 02:37:46,360 Speaker 5: new on set of epilepsy out of nowhere. 2710 02:37:47,640 --> 02:37:48,920 Speaker 7: No, not at all. 2711 02:37:50,120 --> 02:37:54,800 Speaker 5: Okay, So that that that becomes a problem new onset 2712 02:37:54,920 --> 02:38:01,200 Speaker 5: for epilepsy in one's fifties is so abnormal that I 2713 02:38:01,400 --> 02:38:06,480 Speaker 5: really would investigate a second opinion just to look into causalergy. 2714 02:38:07,000 --> 02:38:11,400 Speaker 5: That's the first thing. Okay, So okay, that can't be 2715 02:38:11,600 --> 02:38:16,519 Speaker 5: overlooked because when we talk about treatment, whether it's holistic 2716 02:38:16,680 --> 02:38:20,080 Speaker 5: or otherwise, when we talk about prescription, we really do 2717 02:38:20,280 --> 02:38:23,640 Speaker 5: have to understand what was the thing that led to this. 2718 02:38:24,320 --> 02:38:27,160 Speaker 5: Why is this person beginning to seize? Do they have 2719 02:38:27,280 --> 02:38:30,800 Speaker 5: a brain trauma, do they have a brain tumor? Is 2720 02:38:30,879 --> 02:38:35,280 Speaker 5: there something underlying that is still not being addressed? Are 2721 02:38:35,360 --> 02:38:38,520 Speaker 5: you following me? Hello? 2722 02:38:38,920 --> 02:38:41,199 Speaker 1: I think she hung up. She's probably still listening. 2723 02:38:40,959 --> 02:38:44,280 Speaker 5: Though, Okay, okay, that's fine. Well, the bottom line is 2724 02:38:44,720 --> 02:38:52,080 Speaker 5: any new neurologic symptom listenership is highly suspect and life threatening, 2725 02:38:52,959 --> 02:38:56,800 Speaker 5: whether it is the new onset of epilepsy or seizures. 2726 02:38:56,959 --> 02:39:02,040 Speaker 5: Just for everyone's edification, okay, sees, when you are a 2727 02:39:02,240 --> 02:39:05,800 Speaker 5: normal person, you didn't have childhood seizures, you didn't have 2728 02:39:05,879 --> 02:39:10,040 Speaker 5: seizures in puberty, you didn't have anything related to your hormones. 2729 02:39:10,320 --> 02:39:13,680 Speaker 5: You moved through pregnancy. If you're a woman, you moved 2730 02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:17,400 Speaker 5: through all of the life cycles. Your fifties are your 2731 02:39:17,520 --> 02:39:21,360 Speaker 5: latter chapters. But yes, you develop more stuff in your fifties, 2732 02:39:21,600 --> 02:39:27,520 Speaker 5: not neurologic stuff. Okay, as the gentleman before called and said, 2733 02:39:28,080 --> 02:39:31,760 Speaker 5: I've been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. That's at least an intelligent 2734 02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:38,040 Speaker 5: diagnosis that somebody did the work, investigated the symptoms, put 2735 02:39:38,080 --> 02:39:41,040 Speaker 5: two and two together, and gave him an intelligent answer. 2736 02:39:42,080 --> 02:39:45,920 Speaker 5: Epilepsy is not an intelligent answer at fifty five, So 2737 02:39:46,040 --> 02:39:50,200 Speaker 5: you've got to ask further questions. What is happening. Why 2738 02:39:50,320 --> 02:39:55,000 Speaker 5: has this person begun to seize out of nowhere? Let's 2739 02:39:55,320 --> 02:39:59,640 Speaker 5: investigate that and get an answer. All right, Carl, we're 2740 02:39:59,640 --> 02:40:00,720 Speaker 5: on the ro this morning. 2741 02:40:00,959 --> 02:40:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we still got a bunch of folks who 2742 02:40:02,600 --> 02:40:05,360 Speaker 1: want to talk to you, doctor A. So let's go 2743 02:40:05,480 --> 02:40:08,880 Speaker 1: to Washington, d C. Pam's online too, Grand Rising, Pamy, 2744 02:40:08,959 --> 02:40:10,200 Speaker 1: your question for doctor A. 2745 02:40:11,560 --> 02:40:14,600 Speaker 16: Grand rousing on mister Nelson and doctor A, thanks for 2746 02:40:14,680 --> 02:40:17,680 Speaker 16: taking my call. I'm calling behalf of my mother who 2747 02:40:17,800 --> 02:40:23,080 Speaker 16: was seventy seven and she was diagnosed with hurocey. She's 2748 02:40:23,120 --> 02:40:25,920 Speaker 16: a free dogmatic and so now she's scheduled take. 2749 02:40:26,240 --> 02:40:29,440 Speaker 5: Diagnosed with what she was diagnosed, Pam. She was diagnosed 2750 02:40:29,480 --> 02:40:30,640 Speaker 5: with what was the words. 2751 02:40:30,480 --> 02:40:37,720 Speaker 16: You said, newapacy thing of pronouncement neuropathy, got it, Yeah, 2752 02:40:38,680 --> 02:40:40,320 Speaker 16: And so I want to know if any questions that 2753 02:40:40,440 --> 02:40:43,280 Speaker 16: she could ask for doctors because she had lost a 2754 02:40:43,320 --> 02:40:46,640 Speaker 16: lot of weight, but they still don't know like the 2755 02:40:46,760 --> 02:40:52,600 Speaker 16: reason why. And she says she has kingly in her feet. 2756 02:40:54,920 --> 02:40:58,800 Speaker 5: Okay, So that's two separate things, Pam, and thank you 2757 02:40:58,920 --> 02:41:02,199 Speaker 5: for calling and loving your mom. We love loving daughters. 2758 02:41:02,640 --> 02:41:05,520 Speaker 5: I represent it as a loving daughter, So you know, 2759 02:41:05,600 --> 02:41:08,600 Speaker 5: we've got to protect them as they protected us on 2760 02:41:08,720 --> 02:41:11,480 Speaker 5: the other end of the spectrum. So, first of all, 2761 02:41:11,600 --> 02:41:15,400 Speaker 5: diabetic neuropathy is common, and that really indicates that the 2762 02:41:15,520 --> 02:41:20,400 Speaker 5: diabetes is not new because neuropathy is a complication of 2763 02:41:20,720 --> 02:41:24,679 Speaker 5: the diabetes. So once we're starting to have nerve sensitivity, 2764 02:41:24,879 --> 02:41:29,680 Speaker 5: nerve sensations, we're at risk for infection because when your 2765 02:41:29,760 --> 02:41:33,400 Speaker 5: nerves aren't working right, particularly in the feet of diabetics, 2766 02:41:33,959 --> 02:41:36,800 Speaker 5: they step on a nail, they get an abcess in 2767 02:41:36,879 --> 02:41:40,200 Speaker 5: their foot. They don't even feel it, so now it 2768 02:41:40,320 --> 02:41:42,760 Speaker 5: gets worse and worse, and that's how they end up 2769 02:41:42,800 --> 02:41:46,520 Speaker 5: with amputation. So your mother's foot care, you've got to 2770 02:41:46,560 --> 02:41:49,560 Speaker 5: be very particular about that. Now that she has neuropathy, 2771 02:41:50,040 --> 02:41:53,920 Speaker 5: she should also have a pediatriys but the weight loss 2772 02:41:54,040 --> 02:41:57,520 Speaker 5: is separate. That's a totally separate issue. Why is your 2773 02:41:57,600 --> 02:42:01,039 Speaker 5: mother losing weight and she's diabetic? Again, that's a pretty 2774 02:42:01,080 --> 02:42:05,160 Speaker 5: serious thing. So what you really do about that? Even 2775 02:42:05,240 --> 02:42:09,200 Speaker 5: something over the phone, without medical records, without physical exam, 2776 02:42:09,600 --> 02:42:13,279 Speaker 5: without the benefit of blood work, No, no intelligent doctor 2777 02:42:13,720 --> 02:42:15,400 Speaker 5: is even going to take a bite of that cake. 2778 02:42:15,959 --> 02:42:19,080 Speaker 5: It's a serious one. So I want you, as a 2779 02:42:19,200 --> 02:42:22,480 Speaker 5: daughter to take it seriously. You need to demand answers. 2780 02:42:22,959 --> 02:42:26,040 Speaker 5: Why is this woman losing weight for no reason? You 2781 02:42:26,160 --> 02:42:30,040 Speaker 5: need an intelligent answer. She's losing protein in her urine. 2782 02:42:30,400 --> 02:42:34,080 Speaker 5: She is not eating the right floric intake. She needs 2783 02:42:34,160 --> 02:42:38,680 Speaker 5: a nutritionouness, a podiatrist. Thank you Pam for calling. 2784 02:42:40,160 --> 02:42:42,920 Speaker 1: All right, thanks Bam, good luck. Twenty seven half on 2785 02:42:43,000 --> 02:42:46,840 Speaker 1: top of the Wanda's in Cleveland, Wanda's online, three grand rising, Wanda, 2786 02:42:46,879 --> 02:42:48,039 Speaker 1: your question for doctor A. 2787 02:42:50,320 --> 02:42:55,920 Speaker 20: Grand Rising Carl and doctor A. I am sixty seven 2788 02:42:56,040 --> 02:42:59,560 Speaker 20: years old, and for the past i'd say two to 2789 02:42:59,680 --> 02:43:05,480 Speaker 20: three years, I've had difficulties sleeping. I can pose people, okay, 2790 02:43:05,600 --> 02:43:08,440 Speaker 20: but then I wake up, I use it to use 2791 02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:11,920 Speaker 20: the restroom, and then I get back in bed and 2792 02:43:12,160 --> 02:43:16,520 Speaker 20: my mind just won't shut up. Is there anything I 2793 02:43:16,560 --> 02:43:18,959 Speaker 20: can do, and I don't want narcotics to go. 2794 02:43:19,120 --> 02:43:24,160 Speaker 5: To sleep, right, Okay, So what is your age again? 2795 02:43:25,360 --> 02:43:26,080 Speaker 12: Sixty seven? 2796 02:43:27,440 --> 02:43:30,560 Speaker 5: Okay, and you've had insomnia for how many years Wanda? 2797 02:43:32,400 --> 02:43:38,640 Speaker 20: About two maybe two and a half, So it's a 2798 02:43:38,760 --> 02:43:39,200 Speaker 20: new thing. 2799 02:43:40,440 --> 02:43:43,160 Speaker 5: Okay. Well, then that's your keys, that's your key. You 2800 02:43:43,360 --> 02:43:47,320 Speaker 5: just gave me the answer. Most women, Wanda that are 2801 02:43:47,360 --> 02:43:52,080 Speaker 5: sixty seven went through hell in their fifties with insomnia. 2802 02:43:52,360 --> 02:43:55,440 Speaker 5: That's not at all what you're telling me. You're pretty 2803 02:43:55,520 --> 02:43:57,920 Speaker 5: much telling me you kind of went through menopause with 2804 02:43:58,000 --> 02:44:01,520 Speaker 5: no problem, and all of a sudden, it's now you 2805 02:44:01,640 --> 02:44:05,440 Speaker 5: can't sleep. That's extremely atypical. And what that points to 2806 02:44:05,760 --> 02:44:10,000 Speaker 5: is a stressor in your life or maybe somebody that 2807 02:44:10,120 --> 02:44:12,480 Speaker 5: you need to block. I'm sorry to say it, Okay. 2808 02:44:12,879 --> 02:44:16,240 Speaker 5: As Black women, we take on way too much baggage. 2809 02:44:16,840 --> 02:44:19,840 Speaker 5: That is why Rikabadu came up with some own bag. Lady, 2810 02:44:20,400 --> 02:44:25,560 Speaker 5: let it go. So Wanda, honestly, I'm gonna be very candid, 2811 02:44:26,520 --> 02:44:32,520 Speaker 5: probably dark room and make it cool and uh, stop 2812 02:44:32,600 --> 02:44:34,960 Speaker 5: the screen time. These are not the key for you 2813 02:44:35,640 --> 02:44:38,720 Speaker 5: because you literally got through some of the you got 2814 02:44:38,760 --> 02:44:42,560 Speaker 5: through some of the hardest times of your life without insomnia. 2815 02:44:43,000 --> 02:44:45,720 Speaker 5: You slept like a rock when most women were not. 2816 02:44:46,680 --> 02:44:50,320 Speaker 5: So there's a factor. You got an X factor that 2817 02:44:50,440 --> 02:44:54,080 Speaker 5: you have to release. That is my I'm not miss Cleo, 2818 02:44:54,480 --> 02:44:59,000 Speaker 5: but that is my intuition as a clinician. Okay, then 2819 02:44:59,040 --> 02:45:02,520 Speaker 5: you pop up at a sixty five and be a 2820 02:45:02,600 --> 02:45:06,400 Speaker 5: problem over two years. So it may not be readily 2821 02:45:06,560 --> 02:45:10,080 Speaker 5: in your mind, because again, Black women rarely see the 2822 02:45:10,160 --> 02:45:12,840 Speaker 5: burden as a burden. You know, we're just so loving 2823 02:45:12,959 --> 02:45:16,840 Speaker 5: and big hearted. You want to be very clear about 2824 02:45:16,879 --> 02:45:22,879 Speaker 5: your relaxation techniques. Are you practicing yoga, meditation, deep breathing. 2825 02:45:23,920 --> 02:45:26,400 Speaker 5: Do you take a warm bath an hour before you 2826 02:45:26,520 --> 02:45:29,400 Speaker 5: go to bed? So these are some of the things 2827 02:45:29,480 --> 02:45:33,640 Speaker 5: that really help. If the basics aren't working, you may 2828 02:45:33,760 --> 02:45:37,959 Speaker 5: want to actually start a yoga class, Wanda, because yoga 2829 02:45:38,200 --> 02:45:42,800 Speaker 5: teaches you mindfulness. Yoga teaches you being in the present moment. 2830 02:45:43,000 --> 02:45:45,959 Speaker 5: Yoga teaches you a lot of the things where people 2831 02:45:46,040 --> 02:45:49,840 Speaker 5: who say they cannot meditate on their own they learn 2832 02:45:50,400 --> 02:45:55,240 Speaker 5: a calm, a centric new in their yoga classes. Also, 2833 02:45:55,400 --> 02:45:58,920 Speaker 5: meditating is available for free, so you can do it 2834 02:45:59,040 --> 02:46:03,880 Speaker 5: on YouTube. Find a channel that works for you, Find 2835 02:46:03,920 --> 02:46:07,320 Speaker 5: a theme or a subject matter that is relaxing to you. 2836 02:46:07,879 --> 02:46:10,360 Speaker 5: You've got to know what's relaxing to you, Wanda. You 2837 02:46:10,480 --> 02:46:13,520 Speaker 5: may need to journal. You journal for three weeks and 2838 02:46:13,600 --> 02:46:16,320 Speaker 5: you may have an aha moment that takes you right 2839 02:46:16,400 --> 02:46:19,480 Speaker 5: back to this conversation and what doctor A is pointing to. 2840 02:46:21,480 --> 02:46:23,280 Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Wanda, thank you. 2841 02:46:24,840 --> 02:46:28,280 Speaker 1: Good A tweet question for you, doctor A twenty nine 2842 02:46:28,320 --> 02:46:30,960 Speaker 1: away from the top there, the tweeter says, when you 2843 02:46:31,000 --> 02:46:34,840 Speaker 1: asked AUTA about things that may help lurry vision from 2844 02:46:35,040 --> 02:46:38,280 Speaker 1: excess fluid in the eye. Not the fluid, Not the 2845 02:46:38,400 --> 02:46:41,080 Speaker 1: fluid that has your eyes running all the time. 2846 02:46:45,000 --> 02:46:50,360 Speaker 5: Okay, well, I appreciate the tweeter once again, just like 2847 02:46:50,520 --> 02:46:53,520 Speaker 5: with Wanda. As a good physician, it makes me want 2848 02:46:53,560 --> 02:46:56,720 Speaker 5: to dig deeper. Why do you have a build up 2849 02:46:56,760 --> 02:47:00,160 Speaker 5: a fluid in your eyes? That is a problem that 2850 02:47:00,240 --> 02:47:04,240 Speaker 5: will lead to a permanent eye damage. So, yes, we 2851 02:47:04,360 --> 02:47:06,640 Speaker 5: want to remove the fluid in the eyes. We don't 2852 02:47:06,680 --> 02:47:09,920 Speaker 5: want excess fluid in our eyes. I get exactly what 2853 02:47:10,080 --> 02:47:13,879 Speaker 5: the caller or our tweeter is addressing, but I don't 2854 02:47:13,879 --> 02:47:17,680 Speaker 5: have a big enough picture as a physician to remedy 2855 02:47:18,240 --> 02:47:21,480 Speaker 5: the problem. So, in other words, you have fluid build 2856 02:47:21,560 --> 02:47:25,400 Speaker 5: up in your eyes that's going to increase your eye pressure. 2857 02:47:25,879 --> 02:47:29,480 Speaker 5: Go to an ophthalmologist so that you can understand the 2858 02:47:29,760 --> 02:47:34,400 Speaker 5: why someone has got to physically examine you. Someone has 2859 02:47:34,480 --> 02:47:39,959 Speaker 5: got to know your medical history, age, lifestyle, risk factors 2860 02:47:40,760 --> 02:47:44,440 Speaker 5: to tell you in a concrete way as an individual, 2861 02:47:45,000 --> 02:47:49,560 Speaker 5: how you personally can decrease your eye pressure and decrease 2862 02:47:49,640 --> 02:47:52,360 Speaker 5: the fluid in your eye. Once you do those two things, 2863 02:47:52,640 --> 02:47:55,360 Speaker 5: you will not have the blurry vision. Thank you for 2864 02:47:55,480 --> 02:47:57,119 Speaker 5: tweeting and being a part of the show. 2865 02:47:57,840 --> 02:48:01,519 Speaker 1: Twenty seven away from Tom Fay. Let's go out west again, Malibu, California, 2866 02:48:01,640 --> 02:48:05,440 Speaker 1: Christians Online six Grand Rising Christian. Your question for doctor A. 2867 02:48:06,920 --> 02:48:10,920 Speaker 11: Good morning, Doctor A. And Colin Nelson for Wanda. Maybe 2868 02:48:11,000 --> 02:48:13,320 Speaker 11: they can play some Joe sample or some George Howard 2869 02:48:13,440 --> 02:48:16,000 Speaker 11: music that might be blacks and stuff like that. But 2870 02:48:16,120 --> 02:48:18,560 Speaker 11: I was calling for if you can give us some 2871 02:48:18,640 --> 02:48:22,280 Speaker 11: insight how we hurt ourselves. We injure ourselves with these 2872 02:48:22,400 --> 02:48:26,640 Speaker 11: heavy petroleum products like these wigs, and these are fake 2873 02:48:26,720 --> 02:48:31,360 Speaker 11: eye asses and listic and we use an aluminium deodorant. 2874 02:48:34,480 --> 02:48:38,840 Speaker 5: Oh yet, now you've said a mouthful. So I don't 2875 02:48:38,920 --> 02:48:42,000 Speaker 5: want to take away from callers who have ask some questions. 2876 02:48:42,480 --> 02:48:45,440 Speaker 5: So I'm going to just touch on that very briefly. 2877 02:48:46,640 --> 02:48:51,800 Speaker 5: There are a lot of toxic environmental chemicals, and unfortunately, 2878 02:48:52,240 --> 02:48:57,959 Speaker 5: Black women, we in particular, are prone to using these things. 2879 02:48:58,600 --> 02:49:02,600 Speaker 5: So yes, the weave products and even those who are 2880 02:49:02,680 --> 02:49:05,600 Speaker 5: braiding their hair. You're braiding your hair. It's not just 2881 02:49:05,680 --> 02:49:09,240 Speaker 5: your hair. You're also adding in hair to the braids. 2882 02:49:09,879 --> 02:49:12,760 Speaker 5: So it's not just the ladies that weave their hair, 2883 02:49:13,280 --> 02:49:17,960 Speaker 5: weave braid wig. Anything that is a product that was 2884 02:49:18,040 --> 02:49:24,120 Speaker 5: not god growing on your head can potentially have petroleum. 2885 02:49:24,360 --> 02:49:28,680 Speaker 5: These things can lead to cancer. So yes, black women 2886 02:49:28,760 --> 02:49:35,000 Speaker 5: are disproportionately affected biology yn cancers, including breast Where is 2887 02:49:35,080 --> 02:49:38,960 Speaker 5: the link to the things that we use as products 2888 02:49:39,080 --> 02:49:43,040 Speaker 5: and the environment in which we find ourselves. There are 2889 02:49:43,160 --> 02:49:48,199 Speaker 5: aluminum free deodorants for this exact same reason. It comes 2890 02:49:48,240 --> 02:49:50,600 Speaker 5: down to, we've got to do our research. We don't 2891 02:49:50,640 --> 02:49:54,680 Speaker 5: live anymore in a world where we cannot discover knowledge. 2892 02:49:55,720 --> 02:49:59,440 Speaker 5: So be thirsty for knowledge instead of thirsty for gossip, 2893 02:50:00,160 --> 02:50:03,200 Speaker 5: you know in politics, be thirsty for knowledge. That's the 2894 02:50:03,320 --> 02:50:06,440 Speaker 5: real thrust of what this caller is prompting us to do. 2895 02:50:06,959 --> 02:50:09,960 Speaker 5: Thank you for calling in from Malibu, California. 2896 02:50:10,840 --> 02:50:13,320 Speaker 1: All right, eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight 2897 02:50:13,400 --> 02:50:15,280 Speaker 1: seven six good cup on a breakd real soon. But 2898 02:50:15,480 --> 02:50:19,240 Speaker 1: Richard's online four is in Brentwood. Richard, your question for 2899 02:50:19,320 --> 02:50:19,760 Speaker 1: doctor A. 2900 02:50:22,000 --> 02:50:26,760 Speaker 9: Well, thank you call Grand Horizon granted to a rigin 2901 02:50:28,680 --> 02:50:34,920 Speaker 9: Doctor A. My wife has some kind of mucus that 2902 02:50:35,120 --> 02:50:35,680 Speaker 9: she keeps. 2903 02:50:35,840 --> 02:50:35,960 Speaker 5: Uh. 2904 02:50:37,080 --> 02:50:42,000 Speaker 9: She's been calling for weeks and it won't won't stop. 2905 02:50:42,040 --> 02:50:47,360 Speaker 9: We've been trying everything medical. We just don't know where 2906 02:50:47,400 --> 02:50:47,600 Speaker 9: to go. 2907 02:50:47,760 --> 02:50:47,920 Speaker 6: Now. 2908 02:50:51,000 --> 02:50:53,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you my holy response there doctor, because we 2909 02:50:53,320 --> 02:50:55,200 Speaker 1: got to take a last break. I'll let you respond 2910 02:50:55,240 --> 02:50:57,360 Speaker 1: to Richard's question when we get back. Family, you two 2911 02:50:57,440 --> 02:51:00,200 Speaker 1: can get in on this conversation with doctor AT you've 2912 02:51:00,200 --> 02:51:03,279 Speaker 1: got a medical issue or you just need a second opinion. 2913 02:51:03,600 --> 02:51:06,640 Speaker 1: Please please take advantage of her expertise. I mentioned she's 2914 02:51:07,240 --> 02:51:09,680 Speaker 1: a traditional doctor, a physician with a white suit, but 2915 02:51:09,800 --> 02:51:12,080 Speaker 1: she's also a natural pathic doctor as well. She can 2916 02:51:12,160 --> 02:51:14,960 Speaker 1: give you a holistic response. What are your thoughts? Eight 2917 02:51:15,080 --> 02:51:17,600 Speaker 1: hundred and four or five zero seventy eight to seventy 2918 02:51:17,640 --> 02:51:19,720 Speaker 1: six to reach doctor A and we'll take your phone 2919 02:51:19,760 --> 02:51:23,080 Speaker 1: calls next and grant rising family eighteen minutes away from 2920 02:51:23,120 --> 02:51:24,760 Speaker 1: the top of the are with doctor A. Before we 2921 02:51:24,840 --> 02:51:26,640 Speaker 1: go back to the doctor Ale. We've got to offer 2922 02:51:26,720 --> 02:51:30,039 Speaker 1: our condolences to the family, the friends and the members 2923 02:51:30,080 --> 02:51:32,920 Speaker 1: of the Nation of Islam. The passing the transition of 2924 02:51:33,000 --> 02:51:37,040 Speaker 1: Minister abdul akbah Mohammed. Many we've heard Minister ok Bahmahammad 2925 02:51:37,080 --> 02:51:40,840 Speaker 1: on his program several times. He was the international representative 2926 02:51:40,879 --> 02:51:44,000 Speaker 1: for the Nation of Islam and four Minister of Arcun himself. 2927 02:51:44,840 --> 02:51:47,120 Speaker 1: Somebody may already know the Nation of Islam has more 2928 02:51:47,200 --> 02:51:51,160 Speaker 1: than one located in more than one hundred and eighty countries. 2929 02:51:51,520 --> 02:51:58,040 Speaker 1: Fact in Jew free, in Jew Free Gambia. We went 2930 02:51:58,120 --> 02:52:00,640 Speaker 1: to the Gambia and where Alex Haley had started being 2931 02:52:00,879 --> 02:52:03,560 Speaker 1: a mosque, but he died before it was finished, and 2932 02:52:04,240 --> 02:52:07,440 Speaker 1: Minister Farkhin commissioned Minister Ocbar to make sure that it 2933 02:52:07,560 --> 02:52:10,840 Speaker 1: was finished, and when Alex Haley's family was showing us 2934 02:52:11,000 --> 02:52:14,760 Speaker 1: off this new mosque. But anyway, again, our condulces to 2935 02:52:14,840 --> 02:52:17,320 Speaker 1: his family, especially his daughters and the members of the 2936 02:52:17,440 --> 02:52:20,480 Speaker 1: Nation of Islam. Anyway, let's go back to Richard in Brentwood, 2937 02:52:20,640 --> 02:52:23,360 Speaker 1: doctor A's question about mucus for his wife. 2938 02:52:25,520 --> 02:52:30,400 Speaker 5: So, Richard, thank you for calling and representing love in 2939 02:52:30,520 --> 02:52:36,520 Speaker 5: a marriage. Black love is yeah, black love is what rocks. 2940 02:52:36,560 --> 02:52:40,720 Speaker 5: The whole family. The black community is based upon what 2941 02:52:41,240 --> 02:52:44,880 Speaker 5: the black family. The black family is based upon and 2942 02:52:45,040 --> 02:52:50,120 Speaker 5: defined by what black love. So brother just called this 2943 02:52:50,280 --> 02:52:53,520 Speaker 5: morning is so important to all of us. Number One, 2944 02:52:53,720 --> 02:52:58,480 Speaker 5: it's a very very general question for our listenership. Chronic 2945 02:52:58,680 --> 02:53:03,680 Speaker 5: calls and mucus production is overwhelmingly common. And when the 2946 02:53:03,760 --> 02:53:08,039 Speaker 5: Brothers specifically say it, we've tried everything, We've done everything. 2947 02:53:08,640 --> 02:53:11,320 Speaker 5: As a physician, the first thing I'm going to do 2948 02:53:11,920 --> 02:53:15,520 Speaker 5: is look at the medical records right every test that 2949 02:53:15,800 --> 02:53:19,440 Speaker 5: was done, every blood test that was ordered, so I 2950 02:53:19,440 --> 02:53:21,520 Speaker 5: would have a lot of data in front of me, 2951 02:53:22,040 --> 02:53:24,480 Speaker 5: in addition to having your wife in front of me 2952 02:53:24,879 --> 02:53:28,480 Speaker 5: where I can do a physical examination of her in 2953 02:53:28,600 --> 02:53:31,440 Speaker 5: the absence of all of those things. Here is the 2954 02:53:31,600 --> 02:53:36,560 Speaker 5: general information for the listenership and specifically for you and 2955 02:53:36,680 --> 02:53:42,480 Speaker 5: for your wife. Persistent cought That means it lasts for 2956 02:53:42,959 --> 02:53:48,760 Speaker 5: eight weeks or longer in an adult. In children, we 2957 02:53:48,920 --> 02:53:53,760 Speaker 5: call it a persistent cough four weeks or longer. If 2958 02:53:53,959 --> 02:53:57,880 Speaker 5: she has been coughing for eight weeks or more, she 2959 02:53:58,160 --> 02:54:03,160 Speaker 5: has a medical term called a persistent cost. That diagnosis 2960 02:54:03,520 --> 02:54:06,960 Speaker 5: gets you a second opinion, if needed, a third opinion. 2961 02:54:07,720 --> 02:54:11,200 Speaker 5: Here are the common causes for you to understand for 2962 02:54:11,360 --> 02:54:14,160 Speaker 5: your wife, and I don't know which things have been 2963 02:54:14,280 --> 02:54:23,800 Speaker 5: ruled out by tests, examination, radiologic studies, etc. Post nasal drifts, asthma, 2964 02:54:24,680 --> 02:54:28,600 Speaker 5: acid reflux. Those are three of the most common causes 2965 02:54:29,040 --> 02:54:32,800 Speaker 5: for an adult to develop a chronic cost. If those 2966 02:54:32,879 --> 02:54:36,440 Speaker 5: are the causes, then you want to treat the underlying 2967 02:54:36,600 --> 02:54:41,000 Speaker 5: cause with medication, whether it's asthma. So again, a pull 2968 02:54:41,080 --> 02:54:47,640 Speaker 5: moonologist can evaluate your wife with thorough lung function testing 2969 02:54:48,879 --> 02:54:53,440 Speaker 5: a pullmanologist, she doesn't need a primary care anymore. It's 2970 02:54:53,480 --> 02:54:57,280 Speaker 5: time to step up the game to a specialist. A 2971 02:54:57,520 --> 02:55:01,880 Speaker 5: GI doctor or gastro in orund can evaluate her for 2972 02:55:02,000 --> 02:55:05,720 Speaker 5: acid reflux. So she may need to see both specialists 2973 02:55:05,959 --> 02:55:13,320 Speaker 5: pomonologists and gastroenterrologists. Okay. Mucus production can be from allergies 2974 02:55:14,440 --> 02:55:18,720 Speaker 5: or it can be from a virus. The cough from 2975 02:55:18,959 --> 02:55:23,720 Speaker 5: asthma can be persistent. That's a dry cough. The cough 2976 02:55:24,080 --> 02:55:28,280 Speaker 5: from reflux is coming from too much acid in her 2977 02:55:28,640 --> 02:55:34,480 Speaker 5: esophagus that's being produced. In that case, nutritional lifestyle changes 2978 02:55:34,560 --> 02:55:37,080 Speaker 5: are going to make a difference. If she's a smoker, 2979 02:55:37,400 --> 02:55:41,600 Speaker 5: she's got to quit smoking. Okay, there's certain medications for 2980 02:55:41,720 --> 02:55:45,760 Speaker 5: blood pressure that can cause a chronic cough. So again 2981 02:55:46,120 --> 02:55:47,880 Speaker 5: I don't have the list in front of me. I 2982 02:55:47,920 --> 02:55:51,200 Speaker 5: don't have her medical records. You can have a lingering 2983 02:55:51,320 --> 02:55:55,480 Speaker 5: cough after you've had pneumonia, the flu or a cold virus. 2984 02:55:56,400 --> 02:56:00,560 Speaker 5: There are environmental irritants like dust and mold, the pollution. 2985 02:56:01,200 --> 02:56:03,480 Speaker 5: You know, is there something in the house or in 2986 02:56:03,560 --> 02:56:08,160 Speaker 5: her workplace this triggering a chronic cough. My suggestions you 2987 02:56:08,240 --> 02:56:14,039 Speaker 5: get a pomonologist and she get a gasperineurologist and dig deeper. 2988 02:56:14,440 --> 02:56:17,680 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for loving your wife and representing 2989 02:56:17,760 --> 02:56:20,200 Speaker 5: black love on the Carl Nelson Show this morning. 2990 02:56:20,959 --> 02:56:23,400 Speaker 1: All right, thank you to Richard. Thirteen away from the 2991 02:56:23,480 --> 02:56:26,640 Speaker 1: top they are. Let's go to line five. Sister Kashiva's 2992 02:56:26,680 --> 02:56:29,640 Speaker 1: in Silver Spring. She's online five. As I mentioned, Grand Rising, 2993 02:56:29,720 --> 02:56:33,400 Speaker 1: Sister Kashiba, your question for doctor a Grand. 2994 02:56:33,280 --> 02:56:37,800 Speaker 21: Rising curl excellent program as usual. I'll try to be brief. 2995 02:56:38,320 --> 02:56:42,160 Speaker 21: While I was waiting, I summarized a few things I 2996 02:56:42,320 --> 02:56:47,200 Speaker 21: asked my doctor because I have an overactive bladder and. 2997 02:56:47,360 --> 02:56:48,400 Speaker 13: I had, you know. 2998 02:56:49,160 --> 02:56:52,160 Speaker 21: I finally took a look at all my lab core tests, 2999 02:56:52,959 --> 02:56:58,480 Speaker 21: looking over a period of of over a year, and 3000 02:56:58,520 --> 02:57:02,400 Speaker 21: a half. The thing that worries me because the doctor 3001 02:57:02,400 --> 02:57:04,560 Speaker 21: hadn't brought it to my attention. But some of these 3002 02:57:04,600 --> 02:57:08,360 Speaker 21: results said abnormal. Let me mention some of the things. 3003 02:57:08,680 --> 02:57:09,640 Speaker 5: Eg f R. 3004 02:57:10,040 --> 02:57:13,920 Speaker 21: I asked him about that. It says, it says it's 3005 02:57:14,200 --> 02:57:21,680 Speaker 21: it's high, and it's seventy seventy. Which is which is high? 3006 02:57:22,320 --> 02:57:25,520 Speaker 21: He said, well the lower, the higher it is, the better. 3007 02:57:26,800 --> 02:57:30,080 Speaker 21: Then I looked at alkaline phosphate. It is one twenty 3008 02:57:30,160 --> 02:57:37,000 Speaker 21: three and the result says high. It says WBCs the 3009 02:57:37,120 --> 02:57:43,240 Speaker 21: race abnormal, WBC abnormal, RBC abnormal, Crystal's present abnormal. And 3010 02:57:43,360 --> 02:57:49,080 Speaker 21: then I had the kidney test, which said albumen creating 3011 02:57:49,800 --> 02:57:55,480 Speaker 21: it says abnormal. Now that was the first. That was 3012 02:57:55,600 --> 02:57:57,160 Speaker 21: in June of. 3013 02:57:59,640 --> 02:57:59,879 Speaker 2: Five. 3014 02:58:00,680 --> 02:58:07,880 Speaker 21: Now the latest was September. And I've got this GFR 3015 02:58:08,120 --> 02:58:14,959 Speaker 21: Universal send me two middle leaders PERU. I'm not quite sure, 3016 02:58:15,760 --> 02:58:19,600 Speaker 21: but what do these these numbers actually mean? I mean, 3017 02:58:20,440 --> 02:58:24,480 Speaker 21: he kind of pooh poohed the fact that eg r uh. 3018 02:58:26,040 --> 02:58:29,040 Speaker 5: Okay, so let me first firstly, thank you, thank you, 3019 02:58:29,160 --> 02:58:30,119 Speaker 5: thank you for calling. 3020 02:58:30,520 --> 02:58:33,920 Speaker 21: You're calling from where Silver Spring, Maryland? 3021 02:58:34,360 --> 02:58:37,480 Speaker 5: Okay? Perfect, you're you're in the DMV and and what 3022 02:58:37,680 --> 02:58:38,199 Speaker 5: is your age? 3023 02:58:38,200 --> 02:58:40,320 Speaker 21: Again I'm eighty one. 3024 02:58:41,360 --> 02:58:45,320 Speaker 5: Oh God, bless you, God bless you. So here is 3025 02:58:45,640 --> 02:58:49,840 Speaker 5: the nutshell of what needs to happen. You follow your intuition. 3026 02:58:51,360 --> 02:58:55,400 Speaker 5: You don't have a rapport of trust and respect with 3027 02:58:55,600 --> 02:59:00,200 Speaker 5: this position. This position has thrown you off. You have 3028 02:59:00,320 --> 02:59:03,680 Speaker 5: thrown off your instinct so that you don't have to 3029 02:59:03,800 --> 02:59:07,480 Speaker 5: question everything. So we don't have enough time in the 3030 02:59:07,560 --> 02:59:10,480 Speaker 5: remaining ten minutes for me to break down each and 3031 02:59:10,680 --> 02:59:14,600 Speaker 5: every lab test. But I am proud of you because 3032 02:59:14,640 --> 02:59:18,840 Speaker 5: you're doing what my mother does. Print out your own labs. 3033 02:59:19,120 --> 02:59:22,080 Speaker 5: You know, everybody has a my chart. Nowadays, we all 3034 02:59:22,200 --> 02:59:25,879 Speaker 5: have an electronic record. You have access like the caller 3035 02:59:26,000 --> 02:59:30,360 Speaker 5: right now, to print your data and know every single number. 3036 02:59:30,760 --> 02:59:30,920 Speaker 4: You know. 3037 02:59:31,000 --> 02:59:34,240 Speaker 5: I just did a workshop in the DMV Heart Health 3038 02:59:34,400 --> 02:59:37,360 Speaker 5: at the end of February, and one thing I preach, 3039 02:59:37,680 --> 02:59:40,560 Speaker 5: know your numbers. So what I'm saying to you says, 3040 02:59:40,879 --> 02:59:44,040 Speaker 5: get a second opinion. Okay, the fact that there is 3041 02:59:44,240 --> 02:59:49,520 Speaker 5: anything abnormal with your bladder. You said you have an 3042 02:59:49,560 --> 02:59:55,560 Speaker 5: overactive bladder. There's so many causes. Okay, that alone, you 3043 02:59:55,720 --> 02:59:59,720 Speaker 5: can have a consultation with a urologist. So you tell 3044 02:59:59,800 --> 03:00:03,000 Speaker 5: this doctor you know what, I have an overactive bladder. 3045 03:00:03,600 --> 03:00:07,240 Speaker 5: I've been investigating this and I need more information. I 3046 03:00:07,400 --> 03:00:11,200 Speaker 5: need a referral to a urologist. The urologist as a 3047 03:00:11,320 --> 03:00:16,200 Speaker 5: basic will do all of the urine and blood work again. 3048 03:00:16,959 --> 03:00:20,360 Speaker 5: And when they do that, you take your paperwork. You 3049 03:00:20,760 --> 03:00:23,879 Speaker 5: take the numbers in front of you. From twenty twenty 3050 03:00:23,920 --> 03:00:26,760 Speaker 5: five in twenty twenty six, put the papers in front 3051 03:00:26,800 --> 03:00:29,440 Speaker 5: of the doctor. You need to have a conversation. And 3052 03:00:29,520 --> 03:00:31,640 Speaker 5: if they don't have the time, then you need their 3053 03:00:31,760 --> 03:00:34,680 Speaker 5: nurse to have the conversation. You want to go over 3054 03:00:34,840 --> 03:00:38,560 Speaker 5: all your labs before you leave the building. Period. 3055 03:00:39,600 --> 03:00:43,520 Speaker 21: Should just be a kidney doctor or kind of just 3056 03:00:43,600 --> 03:00:45,200 Speaker 21: be a regular GP. 3057 03:00:47,400 --> 03:00:52,240 Speaker 5: So again, because you have a symptom of an overactive bladder, 3058 03:00:52,680 --> 03:00:57,240 Speaker 5: I am recommending urologists now, way back when you were 3059 03:00:57,280 --> 03:01:00,760 Speaker 5: a young woman, when you were fertile, just would only 3060 03:01:00,879 --> 03:01:03,960 Speaker 5: deal with the penis and the prostate. Uh, we don't 3061 03:01:04,000 --> 03:01:07,960 Speaker 5: live in that day. Women matter, So now there are 3062 03:01:08,240 --> 03:01:12,000 Speaker 5: eurologists for women to deal with the pelvins, to deal 3063 03:01:12,080 --> 03:01:15,280 Speaker 5: with our overactive bladder, to deal with the train wreck 3064 03:01:15,480 --> 03:01:19,800 Speaker 5: that happens to our body after childbearing, after menopause, see 3065 03:01:20,120 --> 03:01:28,039 Speaker 5: a eurogynecologist. Eurogynecologists but they are not universally available. There's 3066 03:01:28,080 --> 03:01:34,520 Speaker 5: a shortage of eurogynecologists. So a eurologist, okay, preferably a woman, 3067 03:01:35,120 --> 03:01:40,080 Speaker 5: but you know, somebody flew it in female eurologic problems 3068 03:01:40,480 --> 03:01:42,160 Speaker 5: and that's going to be all of the male. You 3069 03:01:42,280 --> 03:01:45,800 Speaker 5: can't be certified unless you know the boy and the girl. Okay, 3070 03:01:46,120 --> 03:01:51,720 Speaker 5: So every eurologist is qualified to evaluate an overactive bladder. 3071 03:01:52,200 --> 03:01:55,080 Speaker 5: But as we said earlier in the show, vet your 3072 03:01:55,200 --> 03:02:00,440 Speaker 5: doctor if you can specifically get a eurogynecologist and get one. 3073 03:02:00,840 --> 03:02:05,920 Speaker 5: But if not, a urologists fluid in female urologic problems 3074 03:02:06,720 --> 03:02:08,640 Speaker 5: because you have one and it's valid. 3075 03:02:09,640 --> 03:02:09,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 3076 03:02:09,920 --> 03:02:14,160 Speaker 21: One quick question that gallereal filtration rate. Well, what's the 3077 03:02:14,320 --> 03:02:16,120 Speaker 21: range there for that? 3078 03:02:16,920 --> 03:02:21,160 Speaker 5: So again the GFR, the higher the better. As a 3079 03:02:21,280 --> 03:02:24,039 Speaker 5: general rule, the higher the better. So when we talk 3080 03:02:24,080 --> 03:02:27,560 Speaker 5: about five stages of kidney disease, I don't want to again. 3081 03:02:27,680 --> 03:02:30,240 Speaker 5: We're in our final ten minutes of the show, so 3082 03:02:30,360 --> 03:02:32,480 Speaker 5: I want to get in as many topics and as 3083 03:02:32,520 --> 03:02:36,199 Speaker 5: many people as possible. There are five stages of kidney disease. 3084 03:02:36,720 --> 03:02:40,600 Speaker 5: All of this is information. We can google print and 3085 03:02:40,800 --> 03:02:43,879 Speaker 5: have a doctor sit in the office and go over 3086 03:02:43,920 --> 03:02:47,480 Speaker 5: every number. But the higher the GFR the better, because 3087 03:02:47,560 --> 03:02:50,879 Speaker 5: it means your kidney is functioning. You drop below ninety 3088 03:02:51,280 --> 03:02:54,600 Speaker 5: and you're dropping and dropping in your stages of kidney 3089 03:02:54,680 --> 03:02:58,920 Speaker 5: disease are escalating. That's how that that's how that's explained. 3090 03:02:59,280 --> 03:03:01,119 Speaker 5: All right, thank you so much for calling. 3091 03:03:01,879 --> 03:03:06,000 Speaker 1: All righty serving away from the top. John's calling from Maryland. 3092 03:03:06,040 --> 03:03:09,720 Speaker 1: John's online two Grand Rising, John, you a question for doctor. 3093 03:03:09,480 --> 03:03:14,400 Speaker 7: A good morning, Good morning, Grand Rising to both of you. Already. 3094 03:03:15,240 --> 03:03:19,680 Speaker 7: I have a minor situation. I consider I'm eighty five, 3095 03:03:19,879 --> 03:03:22,439 Speaker 7: soon to be eighty six. I don't take an aspron 3096 03:03:22,640 --> 03:03:25,800 Speaker 7: no none of the problems that people have medically. But 3097 03:03:26,160 --> 03:03:29,480 Speaker 7: I'm experiencing right now a little bit of head loss, 3098 03:03:29,600 --> 03:03:32,039 Speaker 7: you know, listen, minimum in the top of my head. 3099 03:03:32,440 --> 03:03:35,520 Speaker 7: And I was wondering if there's anything that you could 3100 03:03:35,600 --> 03:03:39,800 Speaker 7: recommend that I do eighty five and don't have no problems, 3101 03:03:39,959 --> 03:03:48,560 Speaker 7: no medical problems. I don't take an aspirin, right, Okay, Well, 3102 03:03:48,680 --> 03:03:49,000 Speaker 7: first of. 3103 03:03:49,000 --> 03:03:53,080 Speaker 5: All, thank you for calling and for being triumphant in 3104 03:03:53,200 --> 03:03:55,720 Speaker 5: your health. I'm so proud of you about that. 3105 03:03:57,360 --> 03:03:57,560 Speaker 6: Care. 3106 03:03:57,680 --> 03:04:00,840 Speaker 5: Loss can come from a whole number of things, and 3107 03:04:01,000 --> 03:04:04,240 Speaker 5: the first thing is it may just be aging, right 3108 03:04:05,240 --> 03:04:09,160 Speaker 5: for some of the things. If your hair growth at 3109 03:04:09,240 --> 03:04:12,600 Speaker 5: eighty five, God bless you going on eighty six is 3110 03:04:12,800 --> 03:04:18,320 Speaker 5: slowing because you don't have as many hair follicles as 3111 03:04:18,560 --> 03:04:21,920 Speaker 5: other persons at a younger age, that would be really 3112 03:04:22,040 --> 03:04:24,800 Speaker 5: the number one reason I'm so proud of you that 3113 03:04:25,120 --> 03:04:30,080 Speaker 5: that's the biggest problem that you're facing. Alopecia, and that 3114 03:04:30,280 --> 03:04:34,840 Speaker 5: may not be what's going on, but alopecia specifically. The 3115 03:04:34,959 --> 03:04:39,440 Speaker 5: treatment is going to stimulate and read the regrowth of 3116 03:04:39,560 --> 03:04:43,520 Speaker 5: your hair, and it's going to manage inflammation. So again 3117 03:04:43,680 --> 03:04:46,840 Speaker 5: I haven't done a physical exam of you, but aging 3118 03:04:47,200 --> 03:04:52,640 Speaker 5: plus any inflammation would be things that are contributing to 3119 03:04:53,080 --> 03:04:57,000 Speaker 5: a progressive loss in what you're noticing as your hair growth. 3120 03:04:57,520 --> 03:05:01,039 Speaker 5: So some of the things you can do topical treatments. 3121 03:05:01,320 --> 03:05:08,320 Speaker 5: There's over the counter. There's prescription so monoxidol. That's rogain. 3122 03:05:09,240 --> 03:05:12,920 Speaker 5: That's a very popular treatment for hair loss. It is. 3123 03:05:15,160 --> 03:05:18,640 Speaker 7: Could you say that again, rogain R O G A 3124 03:05:19,520 --> 03:05:20,240 Speaker 7: I N E. 3125 03:05:20,680 --> 03:05:24,280 Speaker 5: Rogain that you put that twice a day on your 3126 03:05:24,360 --> 03:05:27,959 Speaker 5: scalp and that can slow the hair loss and also 3127 03:05:28,120 --> 03:05:33,360 Speaker 5: stimulate hair growth. Then there's steroids, so the use of 3128 03:05:33,480 --> 03:05:38,240 Speaker 5: cortico steroids, which you can get from as a prescription 3129 03:05:38,520 --> 03:05:42,280 Speaker 5: or over the counter from any primary care doctor. That 3130 03:05:42,440 --> 03:05:48,480 Speaker 5: can also reduce the inflammation and increase care growth. Then 3131 03:05:48,520 --> 03:05:51,760 Speaker 5: your nutrition. You want to make sure you're drinking half 3132 03:05:51,800 --> 03:05:52,959 Speaker 5: your body weight and water. 3133 03:05:53,440 --> 03:05:56,560 Speaker 10: But I want to make sure that you get scupa. 3134 03:05:56,600 --> 03:06:01,039 Speaker 7: How about if I'm consuming I do consume cannabis daily 3135 03:06:02,200 --> 03:06:03,840 Speaker 7: for the last seven right, and. 3136 03:06:03,920 --> 03:06:06,440 Speaker 1: John, we're just almost out of time, so I want 3137 03:06:06,520 --> 03:06:07,760 Speaker 1: to give a doctor a chance. 3138 03:06:07,640 --> 03:06:09,840 Speaker 5: To wrap up pear a loss though that's not a problem. 3139 03:06:09,920 --> 03:06:12,440 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, all right, we do it, Thank you, John, 3140 03:06:12,760 --> 03:06:13,120 Speaker 3: doctor A. 3141 03:06:13,440 --> 03:06:16,080 Speaker 7: You call, thank you call, thank you doctor you alrighty. 3142 03:06:16,800 --> 03:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Day, alrighty thanks doctor ay quickly anyway, folks can reach yours. 3143 03:06:21,400 --> 03:06:22,520 Speaker 1: Just half to wait till you come back. 3144 03:06:22,760 --> 03:06:26,600 Speaker 5: People can text message doctor A to area code two 3145 03:06:26,680 --> 03:06:30,480 Speaker 5: O two two seven zero three two six six and 3146 03:06:30,760 --> 03:06:33,840 Speaker 5: follow up and get information as a consultation with me. 3147 03:06:34,560 --> 03:06:38,280 Speaker 5: Text doctor A to two O two to seven zero 3148 03:06:38,920 --> 03:06:40,080 Speaker 5: three two six six. 3149 03:06:40,920 --> 03:06:44,000 Speaker 1: All right, thanks doctor A. That's your family. Classes dismissed 3150 03:06:44,000 --> 03:06:46,480 Speaker 1: for the day. Stay strong, stay positive, please stay healthy. 3151 03:06:46,680 --> 03:06:48,720 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in 3152 03:06:48,879 --> 03:06:51,680 Speaker 1: Baltimore on ten ten w LB and I'll son the 3153 03:06:51,720 --> 03:06:54,519 Speaker 1: DMV on fourteen fifty wol