1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Lie from ball Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today President Trump threatening to go into Nigeria. 3 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: He wrote a post did the President putting it on 4 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: truth Social If the Nigerian government continues to allow the 5 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: killing of Christians, the USA will immediately stop all aid 6 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: and assistance to Nigeria, and they very well go into 7 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: that now disgraced country. Guns are blazing to completely wipe 8 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: out the Islamic terrorists who are committing these horrible atrocities. 9 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: I am hereby instructing our Department of Board to prepare 10 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: for possible action. If we attack, you'll be fast, vicious, 11 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: and sweet, just like the terrorist thugs attacked our cherished Christians. 12 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: Warning the Nigerian government better move fast. Tony Kats. Tony 13 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Kats today, I appreciate noting what is happening to Christians 14 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: in Nigeria, just like we should note what is happening 15 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: to Christians around the globe. And I think that Bill 16 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: Maher deserves a tip of the cap because he did 17 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: bring this up on the show, and he's got a 18 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: larger platform a few weeks ago, and I think it 19 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: has become a larger conversation because of that. He was 20 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: talking to Van Jones at the time. The issue here 21 00:01:52,240 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: is not Nigerians. The issue here is Islamists. No society 22 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: around the globe can exist in some level of coexistence 23 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: with Islamists, with people who are believers in Sharia, with 24 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: people who have this religious fundamentalism. 25 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: Cannot be done. 26 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: Christians cannot, Jews cannot, Muslims cannot. It can't be done. 27 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: And it seems to be very hard for some people 28 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: to say so. I am thankful. I am not one 29 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: of those people. No society can thrive when that society 30 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: introduces Islamists to It can't be done. Christians being killed 31 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: with reckless abandon in the first two hundred days plus 32 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. More than seven thousand Christians have 33 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: been killed since two thousand and nine. Boko Haram, these Islamis. 34 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: This was the group where Michelle Obama thought she was 35 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: doing something by holding up a sign that says, bring 36 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: our girls back. Remember when they got kidnapped and that 37 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: it was Boco Haaram and people didn't know what Boco 38 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Raam was and you thought some stupid photo from the 39 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: former first Lady which speaking of the former first Lady, 40 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: could you Please stop talking about how somehow life wasn't 41 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: been fair to you, and somehow you were under the 42 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: gun and somehow you're still mis Could you stop it? 43 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Stop it already. The pity party is over. You don't 44 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: think America was good to you with eight years in 45 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: the White House and a Netflix steal. I don't know 46 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: what you were expecting, but I don't want to hear anymore. 47 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: I was never a fan of your husband. He's an 48 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: awful guy. 49 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: I always thought you. 50 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: Got the like like you got hit unacceptably. You didn't 51 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: deserve the hits your husband got. I always thought that 52 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: was weird, But now you've just proven that you want 53 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: the hits. It's just a constant complaining no thanks. Listening 54 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: to you is like reading Twitter all day, No thanks. 55 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Since two thousand and nine, Bocoharamas, Lamists have slaughtered more 56 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: than one hundred and twenty five thousand Christians and nineteen 57 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: thousand churches have been destroyed. 58 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: Of course, they should get our help. They should get 59 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 2: the help of the free world. 60 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: But if the free world really wants to help, they 61 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: would put an end to Islamist to wherever they are. 62 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: This becomes a much tougher conversation because in many ways 63 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: damage is done. At least that's the argument that's made. 64 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: Look what's happened in the UK, Look what's happened in France, 65 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: Look what's happened in the whole of Europe. Look at 66 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: what's happened with unfettered immigration, checked immigration. Look what you've 67 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: allowed in the country. How do you now go about 68 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: solving that problem? In the UK? I have made the 69 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: argument that Prince William will be the last king of England. 70 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: Prince George, his eldest son, will never get the opportunity. 71 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: Country can't survive. 72 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 1: The country cannot survive, and the only way it will 73 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: is if the Church of England actually wants to remain 74 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: the Church of England, and that means and that means 75 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: you're going to have to remove the Islamis from your midst. 76 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: Kenneth in the chat Room says, you can't use a 77 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: religious argument for military force. It has to be presented 78 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: as a threat. Islamis sara threat because if you want 79 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: to say that it is religion, you can, but it 80 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: is clearly a political movement and I can make that 81 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: argument all day. 82 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: I make it without apology. 83 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: The only way the United Kingdom can remain a united 84 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: never mind, the Kingdom is to remove the Islamist threat 85 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: that's going to lead to a lot of fighting. 86 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: Yep, there's a story out of Dearborn. 87 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: Dearborn residents startled by FBI raids connected to thwarted Halloween 88 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: terror plot. 89 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: That we discussed. 90 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: This story that took place last week where these raids 91 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: took place in Dearborn, a place called Inkster I n Kster. 92 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: It was Cashpittel, the FBI director, saying that they had 93 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: thwarted a potential terrorist attack. Homes were rated, multiple people 94 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: were arrested. Now, we don't have the story yet. We 95 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: don't have the data yet. We don't have everything as 96 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: of yet. The individuals range in age from sixteen to 97 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: the age of twenty. 98 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: This is all we know right now. 99 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: We don't have anything else to this story about what 100 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: it is that has taken place. We do know that 101 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Dearborn has a large Muslim population at this moment, I 102 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: don't have anything yet. I don't have anything. 103 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: About the who was arrested. 104 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Uh wait, I do literally just coming out I was 105 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: doing the searching. Two men are facing federal charges in 106 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: connection with what the FBI says was a foiled plot 107 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: for a Halloween weekend terrorist attack in Detroit. Mahmed Ali 108 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: and Majed Mahmud are accused of quote receiving and transferring 109 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: and attempting and conspiring to transfer firearms and ammunition, knowing 110 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: and having reasonable cause to believe that the firearms and 111 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: ammunition would be used to commit a crime, a federal 112 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: crime of terrorism a seventy three page criminal complaint. They 113 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: will be in a Detroit courtroom this afternoon. Conspirators include 114 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: a juvenile. They had allegedly traveled multiple times over the 115 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: past few months scouting possible LGBTQ plus friendly attack locations. 116 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: There is so much here. There is so much to 117 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: dig in on. 118 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: Now. First, it is not surprising to anyone who heard 119 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: that this took place in Dearborn. 120 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: The names of. 121 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: The accused, I do not know their story. I do 122 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: not know if they are American citizens. I do not 123 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: know if they're immigrants. 124 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: I don't have that answer. 125 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: The complaint says that the alleged plot was quote on 126 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: behalf of the designated Foreign Terrorist Organization ISIS, and one 127 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: of these guys bought more than sixteen hundred rounds of 128 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: ammunition that quote could be used in the AR fifteen 129 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: style rifles he and the other guy had purchased. We 130 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: have to be people who can admit that there is 131 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: an American way of life and some things are not compatible. 132 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: No Islamist is compatible with the Western way of life. 133 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: No Islamist is compatible with any way of life outside 134 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: that that the Islamist desires. Because the Islamist only knows 135 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: my way or you die, and that is it. Don't 136 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: even tell me about the Jijia paying the tax, don't 137 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: tell me about living under subjugation. 138 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: It is my way or die. 139 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: I've said before that Islam needs a reformation and needs 140 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: it bad. But I take a look at the story 141 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: out of Nigeria. I take a look at this attack 142 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: on Christians, and I take a look at stories like this, 143 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: and I take a look at as I've discussed the 144 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: United Kingdom, and I asked myself, well, what happens here? 145 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: You say to me, Tony, we're a nation that has 146 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: religious freedom, Thank goodness, we do. Are we sure we're 147 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: talking about this as religion? Well, Tony, what are you suggesting? 148 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: Not suggesting anything? I am stating that Islam needs a reformation. 149 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: I am stating that the Islamist is not religious in 150 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: any way other than just as a level of code. 151 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: Can we at least admit to the basics. Well, Tony, 152 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: that's just biggoting against Muslims. I reject the premise of 153 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: that statement. I have got stories. Why can't I connect 154 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: the dots? 155 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: No? 156 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: Wait, I can. Why won't other people connect the dots? 157 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: And why will they tell me I'm some kind of 158 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: biggot if I do? There is a fundamental issue happening 159 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: around the globe. And that fundamental issue, whether in Dearborn, 160 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: or whether in Nigeria, or whether in Gaza, has to 161 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: do with Islamists who want to kill. What kind of 162 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: a rational person doesn't say so? Winston Churchill? Was it 163 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: going back to nineteen thirty five? Maybe it was earlier. 164 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: Winston Churchill warned in the House of Commons day in 165 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: and day out, again and again and again and again 166 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: that Hitler is the threat, that's the threat to human civilization, 167 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: that is not just a threat to the empire, that 168 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: is the threat to survival rit large. 169 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: Every day he was laughed at. 170 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: And every day he must have felt humiliated, And every 171 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: day he said it again, and every day he was 172 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: dismissed as a warmonger. First you lead us to the Dardenells, 173 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: and now you want to what repeat the folly? And 174 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: Neville Chamberlain, who he had worked with, comes back as 175 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: Prime minister. There will be peace in our time and 176 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: an accord with the Germans. And Winston Churchill still said, 177 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: this is a fool's errand this is a mistake. Here 178 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: we are with the enemy facing us. Will we not 179 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: prepare and confront it before it is too late? 180 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: And then we the Germans. 181 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: They took the rest of Czechosovakia, and then they made 182 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: their moves on. Friend j Anson might have a little 183 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: bit of timeline off there, And. 184 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: The British people said, oh, oh gosh, look at that. 185 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: I guess he was right. I do not believe that 186 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister. 187 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: Of the United Kingdom today, kir Starmer, could save the UK. 188 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he has the strength. I don't even 189 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: think he has a conviction. He is not the man, 190 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: he is the Neville Chamberlain. In order for the UK 191 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: to be saved, it is Prince William who to look 192 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: at his subjects and say we must survive. In order 193 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: for the world to survive, it must for all its differences, say, 194 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: none of us can survive if the Islamist threat is 195 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: left unchecked. I know that this is hard for some, 196 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: but the reality has been in our face for decades. 197 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: It was in our face when they threw Leon Klinghoffer 198 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: off via Achille Lauro. 199 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: Wheelchair and all. 200 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: The Islamist threat is real and we must either deal 201 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: with it now or it will deal with us tomorrow. 202 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: There is no other way to view it. 203 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony kats Today, congress Woman. 204 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: I think the administration has acknowledged, or is tacitly acknowledging, 205 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: that this is becoming a problem for them, particularly with 206 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 4: the split screen of the Gatski Party at the same 207 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: time that Americans were about to lose their food assistance. 208 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 4: But the way that they've been handling this is by 209 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: trying to deflect. In fact, we have some sound from 210 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rawlins talking about how they are rooting 211 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: out fraud. Let's take a listen. 212 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: It is time to drastically reform this program so that 213 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 5: we can make sure that those who are truly needy, 214 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 5: truly vulnerable, are getting what they need and the rest 215 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 5: of the corruption goes away and we can serve the 216 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 5: American taxpayer. So yeah, we want to number one most important, 217 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 5: get the government open, make sure that people that really 218 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 5: need this money are going to get it. But guess what, 219 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 5: there's a new sheriff in town. His name is Donald Trump, 220 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 5: and this program will be reformed. We will holpe people accountable, 221 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 5: and we will be able to help those who really 222 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: knew it. 223 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: What's wrong with reforming snap benefits? Nothing, I say, Tony Katz, 224 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, great. 225 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: To be with you. 226 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: That was Brook Rollins right there on Fox News, engaging 227 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: the idea of reform. If people are abusing the program, 228 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't we stop that from happening? Now take it back 229 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: to MSNBC that seems to be outraged about this and 230 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: is doing an interview with Massachusets Congresswoman Ianna Presley, a 231 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: member of the squad. 232 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 4: I guess one way to keep people from fraudulently claiming 233 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 4: benefits is by making sure no one can claim benefits. 234 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 6: No, first and foremost, this is the most corrupt administration 235 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 6: in history. And then they're cruel enough to create work 236 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 6: requirements for hungry people to get snapped, but for the 237 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 6: last month they have not shown up for work and 238 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 6: they've been on a taxpayer funded vacation. 239 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: That is not even an argument. But what is so 240 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: cruel about working? Do you want to know why? I'm 241 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: not a progress That's why. That's why, Iona Pressley, is why? 242 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: What is cruel about working? If you can, if you 243 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: are able bodied? What is cruel about this? What is 244 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: cruel as creating a world of dependency and keep people 245 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: locked into a system where they are dependent on government. 246 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: That's obscene, it's not kind, it's not good, it's not healthy. 247 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a very long standing conversation now, 248 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: but progressives like Iona Pressley never stop. So let's at 249 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: least start with the baseline. You are not kind, Iana Pressley. 250 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: You are not decent. You are not good. If you 251 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: want people to be in a cycle of dependency where 252 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: they are dependent on the government for their basic sustenance 253 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: and survival, that's evil. 254 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: Stop. You're not tough, you got you gotta cut that 255 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: one out right at the quick. And you're not smart, 256 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: you're not special. It's evil. 257 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: Wanting people to be dependent, wanting the people to have 258 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: to come to you with their hands open and say 259 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: thank you for the scrap. Oh, yes, I'll vote for 260 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: you because that's the deal, because you feed me. No. No, 261 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: we should stop that in Massachusetts. Should vote better. But 262 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: one thing at a time. This is Tony Katz today. 263 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: More recently, Americans have been watching videos of ice tackling 264 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: a young mother, tear gas being used in a Chicago 265 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: residential neighborhood, and the smashing of car windows. 266 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: Have some of these raids gone too far? 267 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 7: No? I think they haven't gone far enough because we've 268 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 7: been held back by the by the judges, by the 269 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 7: liberal judges that were put in by Biden and by Obama. 270 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 7: You're okay with those tactics, yeah, because you have to 271 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 7: get the people out, you know, you have to look 272 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 7: at the people. Many of them are murderers. Many of 273 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 7: them are people that were thrown out of their countries 274 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 7: because they were, you know, criminals. 275 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: That angers a lot of people, angers a lot of 276 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: people that President Trump could so callously say, no, we're 277 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: not going far enough. There's a real conversation to be 278 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: had about what kind of nation we want to be, 279 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: how in the world we run as a nation, and 280 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: whether or not we're serious about changing things for the better. 281 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: Tony Katz Tony Kats today. Good to be with you. 282 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: I agree that if someone is walking down the street 283 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: and three guys in some camo type outfits fully armed 284 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: with masks on say prove that you live in the country, 285 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: screw that. 286 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: No no, no, no no no no no, no, no 287 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: no no. 288 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: If they know who they are arresting, I have very 289 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: little problem with it. If they're just asking people, do 290 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: you have your papers? 291 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: Nah? 292 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: No, I'm not down. And one of the things that 293 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I'm always discussing is that 294 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: I am an absolute believer that we have great amounts 295 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: of data on people we know shouldn't be in the country. 296 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: Let's go get those people. Let's not delay, Let's not 297 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: prevent ourselves from doing what is necessary. Let's go get 298 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 1: that done. The people who are upset by this aren't 299 00:21:55,040 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: upset by the small amount of cases where somebody is 300 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: improperly detained, but rather the concept itself that we would 301 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: admit that some people don't belong in the United States. 302 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: They are most disgusted by the idea that we meant 303 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: it when we voted for Trump. They're disgusted by the 304 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: idea that there is a standard at all apoplectic. They 305 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: cannot be allowed to win elections. I mean, you gotta 306 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: vote against them. You gotta focus on running better candidates. 307 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: You gotta focus on supporting those candidates. This brings us 308 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: to the conversation about redistricting in California. They've got Prop 309 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: fifty because they need to bring it to the people. 310 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: What does Prop fifty do? Prop fifty poses new lines 311 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: for California. It's fifty two congressional districts and would get 312 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: rid of five seats. 313 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: Why are they getting rid of five seats? 314 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: Well, not getting rid of five seats. They're getting rid 315 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: of five Republican seats because they don't like what Texas did. 316 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: Texas engaged redistricting. 317 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: I have been following this story here in my Indiana 318 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: because it's been a hot subject. Yes, it is clear 319 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: that this is something that the White House wants. But 320 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: just like the removing of people from the country who 321 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: are here illegally, a lot of people voted for President 322 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: Trump because they didn't want the same old, same old, 323 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: and now they're not getting the same old, same old. 324 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: They're like, oh wait, I'm not sure I want this. 325 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: Well, what do you want? Well, I want things to 326 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: be better but I just want to be nice about it. 327 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: What does that even mean? 328 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: What kind of cowardly clap trap. 329 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: Nonsense is that? What do you mean you want to 330 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: be nice about it. Someone's in the country illegally, Well 331 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: we should get rid of them. 332 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: Well, okay, we're getting rid of them. 333 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: Oh not like that, No, no, no, we should bake 334 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: them cookies and ask them if they'll go. Well, we 335 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: baked them the cookies. They took the cookies and they 336 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: said no. We all right, we'll bake them more cookies, 337 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: but we'll really ask them to go this time. At 338 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: some moment, you have to remove the person who is 339 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: in your house uninvited. That's all there is. Redistricting is 340 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: a political process. It is legal, one thousand percent legal. 341 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: And as I watched there on over the weekend, I 342 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: was at a listening session. It was a listening session 343 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: about redistricting. 344 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: That a state senator was having, and it was an hour. 345 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: And forty five minutes away or whatever it was, and 346 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: I drove down there and I sat. 347 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: I watched. 348 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: Bunch of people all over the age of sixty, mostly women, 349 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: and nobody was in favor of redistricting. 350 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: I don't know where the Republicans were. 351 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: I know that in that county they had a Republican 352 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: breakfast that morning. No one thought to come over to 353 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: where this event was happening and show their support for redistricting. See, 354 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: that's that's weak Republicans. That is disorganized Republicans. Well, Tony, 355 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: you got to understand that they've got jobs and they've 356 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: got lives. Oh okay, I have heard that conversation, that 357 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: story for as long as I have been doing this job. 358 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: Republicans have jobs. They don't have time for this, They 359 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: don't have time for that. Okay, Democrats win. Pick the subject, 360 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: Pick the subject, Democrats win. What do you mean you 361 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: don't have time on a Saturday to show up for 362 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: thirty two minutes? What does that mean? Not showing up 363 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: is letting the other side win. Not showing up is 364 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: giving up. Oh, they have jobs. You have to fight. 365 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: You gotta show up. You don't show up, don't expect 366 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: good things to happen because they can't happen. 367 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: But while I was there, I heard a bunch of 368 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: things from these people. 369 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: First, while they all not all's, I mean everybody, the 370 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: majority came across as polite to the State Center who 371 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: listened to everybody. It was two and a half hours 372 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: that I was there because that was the scheduled time, 373 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: and he listened Trump a pedophile, Trump bad, Republican's bad Trump, 374 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: this Trump that I know fascism when. 375 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: I see it. Oh, holy hell. 376 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Basically, if there was a talking point in MSNBC, it 377 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: came out from the crowd assembled. The talking points involved 378 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: things like constitutionality, and I realized. 379 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: That America it needs a Civics lesson, very very bad. 380 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: The Constitution does not say you can only redistrict once 381 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: every ten years. It calls for a census once every 382 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: ten years, and from there. 383 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: You engage redistricting. 384 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:18,719 Speaker 1: Redistricting is a political process that state legislatures engage, and 385 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: they can do so anytime they choose. Now, different states 386 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: might have different rules, but states that do not have 387 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: these nonsense independent commissions they can go about redrawing the 388 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: maps any time they want, as many times as they 389 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: want a year. Redistricting has happened over in the course 390 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: of our history. 391 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: Mid decade redistricting. This is not new. 392 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 1: It is rare, but it is not new, and it 393 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: is not unconstitutional. It's not against the federal constitutions, not 394 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: against the state Constitution against the Indiana and the amount 395 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: of people who said that was an overwhelming sum and 396 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: they were all wrong. So they were either ignorant or 397 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: they were lying. I'm willing, actually to believe the former, 398 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: because we would all agree we need a Civics lesson 399 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: in America like nothing else. But the one thing that 400 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: I heard that was so unbelievable was. 401 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: This is just a power grab. Is that right? Tell 402 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: me more, Nancy Pelosi. 403 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 8: So here we are at this moment of truth for America. 404 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 9: Other days when we've been here, there's been a sign 405 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 9: that says California will make the difference, and California will 406 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 9: make the difference in everything for our country. 407 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: Oh good Lord, reason enough to do anything opposite of 408 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: what they're doing now. I don't think Nancy Pelosi is 409 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: gonna curse their producer landing, but I haven't able to 410 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: hear it all. 411 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: So finger on the dump button. 412 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: Also, you've seen the debt, you've seen the homelessness, you've 413 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 1: seen the issues, and you've seen the poop laate streets 414 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: of San Francisco. Who wants California leading the way? No one, 415 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: no one, no, that's no one. 416 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 9: For goodness sake, we must win for goodness sake, for 417 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 9: people to have their health care and not to have 418 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 9: their prices increase in Medicare, Medicaid, for people to be 419 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 9: pushed off, millions of people pushed off. And again Medicare 420 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 9: half a trillion dollars taken off. 421 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 8: And why to give a tax cut to the richest 422 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 8: people in America. That's not for goodness sake. 423 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: I hope they're doing. 424 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi who made all her money doing stock trades, 425 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: with insider trading, while she allegedly served the people. All right, 426 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: maybe not all the money, but I'd like to know 427 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: the number. 428 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 8: And now we came into a weekend. 429 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 9: November first, when people would start losing their Snap benefits. 430 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 8: They told me not to say snap but to say 431 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 8: food stamps. And what did the president do? 432 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 9: Had a great Gatsby party at Marrow Lago. 433 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: Well, not all of us can sit at home and 434 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: eat eight dollars pint's ice cream, Nancy. 435 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: Instead of feeding the American people again the ice cream. 436 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 9: My colleagues who are here, and Zoe will be introducing them. 437 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 9: Our colleagues who are here, know that we passed a wall. 438 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 9: That is the wall that says, even in time of 439 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 9: government being shut down. 440 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 8: The money is there to make to defeat them. 441 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 9: People want snap the money is there, and he said, well, 442 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 9: I got to talk to my lawyers and all this stuff. 443 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 8: No, the money is there. It's the wall of the land. 444 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 8: For goodness sake. 445 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: This is a rally in favor of something called Prop 446 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: fifty in California. To redistrict districting is retribution for Texas. 447 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: The concept of retribution belongs to Texans and Texans alone. 448 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: They get to decide. 449 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: Whether or not they like what their state legislators have done, 450 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: and they can vote those people out. And when Texas 451 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: decided to redistrict, I had no thoughts of it happening 452 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: in my state. And then California decided retribution is the game, 453 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: and I said, okay, redistrict. The state of Indiana, redistrict 454 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: North Carolina, Maryland Democrats are now going to redistrict power grab. 455 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: I wonder what those people who attended the same thing 456 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: I did this weekend in Indiana, what they would say 457 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: to this wait, is this power grab good? But in 458 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: Indiana Republican power grab feel the air quotes is bad. 459 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: This is politics and not appreciate it. If everybody acted 460 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: like a grown up for a moment. Democrats have no 461 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: issue playing the political game. And they have no issue 462 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: saying that if they have power, they'll continue supporting illegal immigrants. 463 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: They have no issue saying they'll push for government run healthcare. 464 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: They have no issue with it. 465 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: Politics is power, and so one can decide to use 466 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: it or one can decide to lose it. We are 467 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: the ones who decide who has the power, because of 468 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: ultimately it should be ours. 469 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: Power grab? Were these people all children who didn't know 470 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: what it is we're talking about here? When California does it, 471 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: it's good. 472 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: When Indiana does it, it's bad. No, no, no no. 473 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: For every state legislator in my state listening redistrict, do 474 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: it now. Don't apologize for it. 475 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: Don't. 476 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: There are greater things that play here than just our state. 477 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: But it will help our state. And if you want 478 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: to talk about power grab, Nancy Pelosi is your poster child. 479 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz Today. A 480 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: lot about numbers this way and that. 481 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 10: This morning in the brand new C and N pull, 482 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 10: we did ask voters what their opinions of the parties 483 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 10: in Congress. Were twenty nine percent favorable for Democrats fifty 484 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 10: five percent unfavorable. 485 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: Why don't people like you, Senator, Well, John, it's good 486 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 2: to be with you this morning. 487 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 11: The short answer is, at least for some time, Democrats 488 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 11: did not see the party in Washington fighting back more 489 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 11: strongly against Donald Trump and his attacks on our democracy, 490 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 11: on his failure to bring down prices. But also Democrats 491 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 11: do need to provide a better alternative to Donald Trump. 492 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 11: It cannot only be about going after Donald Trump. It 493 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 11: needs to be about presenting alternatives. In fact, I'm working 494 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 11: on some proposals right now on the tax front to 495 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 11: increase taxes on the wealthiest and make sure that middle 496 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 11: class families, working class families get relief. 497 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: So I think so Chris van Holland, the Senator from 498 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: Maryland who likes margaritas with kilmar Abrego Garcia, who beats women. 499 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: According to the reporting hits on It, Democrats are not 500 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: popular because they have no policies. The only thing they 501 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: have is Trump pay And so what's his plan? Get 502 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: some policies out there, what's a good policy? Raise taxes 503 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: on the rich? 504 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: Oh god, how do they win it all? 505 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: It's the same stuff we've been hearing for two decades. 506 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: That's your great policy. It's not about manufacturing, it's not 507 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: about national security, it's not about cyber Raise taxes on 508 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: the rich. 509 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: We really have to work over time to make sure these. 510 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: People don't get in power. 511 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: We really do. This is Tony Katz today,