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Speaker 1: a free state, the right of the people to keep

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Speaker 1: Second Amendment, and this is the gun.

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Speaker 2: Guy Boom boom boom boom bang bang bang bang boom boom, boom,

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Speaker 1: Bang boom, Guy Ralford on ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 3: And welcome back for our number two of the Gun

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Speaker 3: Guys Show here on ninety three WYBC. Whether you're listening

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Speaker 3: over the air at ninety three point one ninety three

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Speaker 3: just fine, and you can also watch and participate in

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Speaker 3: for ninety three WYB see and you'll see us rolling

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Speaker 3: along there with video from our brand new studios here

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Speaker 3: on Saint Joseph Street, near north side of Indianapolis. Like

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Speaker 3: I mentioned, I'm misbeing on the circle just a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's fun to walk around, whether I wanted to grab

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Speaker 3: But hey, there are trade offs and everything that furnitures are.

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Speaker 3: Furniture is nicer, the computers are nicer, the microphones are nicer.

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Speaker 3: That certainly the setup for video is much nicer. Oh

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Speaker 3: and I can producer Gavin. The restrooms are a hell

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Speaker 3: Gamer Nigel used to complain about the restrooms there on

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Speaker 3: It's kind of funny. I walked in first time again,

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Speaker 3: here we are but participate, participate, appreciate you listening and

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Speaker 3: participating through whatever media you choose, including YouTube or over

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Speaker 3: the year or otherwise. So let's shift gears a little

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Speaker 3: But we're talking about the ability to be armed and

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Speaker 3: And certainly we can look at what's going on in

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Speaker 3: there is fundamentally a different mindset. You know, I spent

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Speaker 3: And it's it's intellectually lazy to generalize too broadly, and

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Speaker 3: But then it says, when any government because destructive of

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Speaker 3: But it is the right of the people to alter

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Speaker 3: That's the ability is say hell no, no, no, no, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: That's the difference. That's the difference. That's what an armed

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Speaker 3: who was just having dinner there in the food court

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Speaker 3: in Greenwood. But you know what, there was one person

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Speaker 3: He was all the way on the other side of

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Speaker 3: the mall. But Eli Dickon, you know Eli dicken did

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Speaker 3: He said, hell no, not today, not in the Greenwood

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Speaker 3: Park Mall, not where I and my girlfriend are trying

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Speaker 3: to have our own dinner.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: Now, you're not going to murder my fellow citizens. Not today. No,

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Speaker 3: hell no. And he stood up and he braced on

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Speaker 3: hell no. And who is it, whether it's the government

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Speaker 3: it might be, who should have the ability to look

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Speaker 3: You don't get the capacity to defend your life, your family,

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Speaker 3: deprive you, as an individual of that ability to stand up,

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Speaker 3: look evil in the eye and say hell no, not today, no,

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Speaker 3: not today. Answer that question for me, then tell me

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Speaker 3: the government, the government ought to have the ability for

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Speaker 3: the greater good, should deprive you of that power, that ability,

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Speaker 3: that inherent ability to defend yourself to say hell no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: no no. You know what I say to that, that's

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Speaker 3: hell no. Let's take a break. This is Guy Ralford

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Speaker 3: on The Gun Guy Show on ninety three WYBC. Guy

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Speaker 3: Relford for the law office of Guy Relford. If you've

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Speaker 3: lost your Second Amendment rights would like to have them restored,

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Speaker 3: their airs expungement. There are other restoration procedures. They apply

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Speaker 3: to a lot of folks, not certainly all, but if

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Speaker 3: it's been eight years since a felony conviction, for instance,

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Speaker 3: for a lot of felonies, you can have that conviction

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Speaker 3: exponge to get your rights restored. If you'd like to

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Speaker 3: explore those opportunities, just contact us through the whelps with

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Speaker 3: a website. It's Relfred law dot com. You can see

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Speaker 3: the phone number right there, call us during the week,

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Speaker 3: or send a message right through the website. It's Relfred

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Speaker 3: law dot com.

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