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Speaker 1: There's a throw by bed Doza wine open this time

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Speaker 1: This time that did the klan.

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Speaker 1: The Feeli's don a man, It's over. It's a tough down.

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Speaker 1: Fernando fires us friend to the Endzon and it is coming.

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Speaker 2: Another tremendous grab for a tough town fire like this

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Speaker 2: surround the Voice of the Hoosiers, Don Fisher joining Query

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Speaker 2: in company on ninety three five and one oh seven

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you how you know that everything is

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Speaker 1: running fabulously for your college football team. It goes without

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Speaker 1: saying that when you are unblemished that things are going well.

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Speaker 1: It goes without saying when you're quarterback that things are

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Speaker 1: But the ultimate tell tale may be when you turn

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Speaker 1: on the football broadcast, as you could do on this

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Speaker 1: not the Bison mascot actually condunk and or ride a Harley.

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Speaker 1: When you hear that, you say to yourself, this means

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Speaker 1: everything is perfect in Hoo's your land. Don Fisher, the

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Speaker 1: voice of the Hoosiers, joins us, Now that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: fair assessment, is it not, Don?

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Speaker 4: Pretty good? Pretty good?

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Speaker 2: It makes me laugh.

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Speaker 1: However, it was cracking me up because Shannon and I

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Speaker 1: are listening to the game and you guys were breaking

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Speaker 1: down like the vertical leap and or the size of

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Speaker 1: the bison, and listen, Don, and then the game gets underway,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I was just saying it. I think

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Speaker 1: at times over the course of a game. You know,

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti an inner, you know, you know this obviously,

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Speaker 1: and talking to him, he is at times so concise

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Speaker 1: the cliches like that, right, And then you watch his

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Speaker 1: team though, and it truly carries the character and the

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Speaker 1: message of the coach. Because I am just still pinching

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Speaker 1: myself over the efficiency of Indiana, both on offense and defense.

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Speaker 1: I just don I don't know that I've seen a team,

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Speaker 1: and I don't mean this to blow the smoke, but

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Speaker 1: I just don't know that I've seen a team that

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Speaker 1: Does this remind you of other programs that you've seen

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Speaker 2: It does. I mean, when you think about that kind

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to compare it to who I'm

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily now so much, but of the past of

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Speaker 2: the teams I watched on television. The Alabama's those type

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Speaker 2: looks like, Man, these guys are good, they really are.

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Speaker 2: They do the things their coach is asking them to do.

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Speaker 2: It's got disciplined, it's got toughness, it's got all those

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Speaker 2: things that coach Signetti talks about at this juncture, and

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Speaker 2: it looks so good, not just the average fan, but

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Speaker 2: to guys that are experts. Urban Meyers said, this is

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Speaker 2: that recently. So I'm all I can tell you at

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Speaker 1: And don when you look at the roster and I know, look,

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Speaker 1: without saying I mean what Mendoza is doing again, efficient

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Speaker 2: Well, in my opinion, the reason he's able to do

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Speaker 2: If you know what I'm saying, what this kid's mindset is,

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Speaker 2: now coaches have to look into and if they don't.

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Speaker 2: what you're trying to build with your program. So there

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Speaker 2: but more than anything else, what Signetti looks for is

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Speaker 2: it does right now because he has built this team,

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Speaker 1: Don I literally feel like I need to say this

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Speaker 1: Indiana fans don't want to hear that comparison, but my

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Speaker 2: Well, the truth of the matter is, I haven't spoke

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Speaker 2: sure acting protecting him a lot from a lot of

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Speaker 2: I've seen his interviews with you in the post game

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Speaker 2: And so from that perspective and from the personality that

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Speaker 2: The things that I do sometimes are not the right thing,

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Speaker 2: so to speak. He says, I make mistakes, and I've

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Speaker 2: all of these guys are successful, because that's the kind

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it's in. You can just tell it, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean it literally is. Everybody is laser focused on

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Speaker 1: Joba House, Peel and poor guest line. We're talking Indiana football,

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Speaker 1: there an area with this Indiana football team that you

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Speaker 2: I don't have that area, Jake. I'm not that smart.

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Speaker 2: I can just tell you I don't know what area

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Speaker 2: that would be. No, Yeah, yeah, I mean there's just

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Speaker 2: nothing I can point to. The One thing I've said,

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Speaker 2: who's going to beat this team? And my answer is

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Speaker 2: going to get beat and then that they couldn't be

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Speaker 2: only I mean, we've played some really good ball games

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Speaker 2: answer it. But one thing I do want to say,

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Speaker 2: from what you asked me earlier, you brought up Matt

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Speaker 2: Painter and his philosophy and how he goes about things.

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Speaker 2: There's not much difference you can say about these two programs.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the basketball Purdue and the football at

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Speaker 2: Indiana right now, and I think you're going to see

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Speaker 2: something very similar to what we see from Matt Painter

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll tell you what that was. You know,

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Speaker 1: Don I think, if I'm not mistaken here, you've got

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Speaker 1: Well that's what I was going to say. Is now

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Speaker 1: good for Don Fisher. That's exactly right. It can't get

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Speaker 1: much better than this Don. We appreciate the time as always,

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Speaker 1: Do you believe they will make a move to try

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Speaker 4: Yes, they have to. I mean they have to explore.

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Speaker 4: argue rusher or corner. I would take a pass rusher

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Speaker 4: I hope they find a corner and not and not

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Speaker 4: I I I will be surprised if they don't go

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Speaker 1: He Yeah. Here's the thing. I think it's a little

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Speaker 1: You can get away with average to slightly below average

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree. And that's why I say, and in

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Speaker 4: You know, Dwight Freeney, Hall of Famer, he can make

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Speaker 4: But when you're playing corners like Jonathan Edwards started a

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Speaker 4: probably for one year, half a year, and as long

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Speaker 5: One, Mike, do you feel like the rental is the

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Speaker 4: You may get that. Yeah, you may get it. If

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Speaker 4: If you could. But you know, if you've got a

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Speaker 1: Yes, Mike Chapel is our guest. He's on the Joba

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Speaker 1: you're in the weekly press conferences, et cetera. Is this

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Speaker 1: a guy you feel that had to make adjustments and

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Speaker 1: grow as a coach or was it rather he finally

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Speaker 1: now has the players around him, notably at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: that are delivering on what it was that he has

436
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Speaker 1: been doing all along.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, both are true. He had to grow into the position,

438
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Speaker 4: but I think it just kind of it emphasizes how

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Speaker 4: restricted he's been the last couple of years because of

440
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Speaker 4: the quarterback situation. To where and Boyle us we don't

441
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Speaker 4: need to pile on Anthony Richards, and we don't, but

442
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Speaker 4: to compare him and Daniel Jones is a disservice to

443
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Speaker 4: both because Richards has done so much talent, so much

444
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Speaker 4: incredible big play, but he doesn't have that down to

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Speaker 4: down mastery of things of consistency. Remember when Stichan said

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Speaker 4: find completions, and I've always tried to. I would never

447
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Speaker 4: call Daniel Jones a game manager, but boys, he managing

448
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Speaker 4: this offense. Uh. And that's not a knock at all.

449
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Speaker 4: It's really kind of funny and I and I it

450
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Speaker 4: hit me last time when I followed the quotes from

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Speaker 4: the from the podium, somebody asked Jones about the offense

452
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Speaker 4: and he said, well, no, he said, what really? You know,

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Speaker 4: what I'm proud of is we're not doing anything out

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Speaker 4: of the ordinary or crazy. And I've been saying that

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Speaker 4: for the last month. They're just going out and play

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Speaker 4: after play executing. Again, he's not doing anything crazy. Jonathan

457
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Speaker 4: Taylor's I'm still waiting for Jonathan Taylor's game. You know,

458
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Speaker 4: twenty five carries one hundred and ninety and all he's

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Speaker 4: doing is wearing you down with brilliance. Michael Pittman is

460
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Speaker 4: just having a good season. Tyler Warren. When you give

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Speaker 4: Shane Stykeen a quarterback who runs the offense, reads the defenses,

462
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Speaker 4: gets out of bad plays, gets into good plays, avoid sacks,

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Speaker 4: and then you pair him with Jonathan Taylor, who is

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Speaker 4: the Who's the best running back in the game right now?

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Speaker 4: And it's it's all year to year because last year

466
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Speaker 4: was a saqlon Barkleay. But he's on pace for like

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Speaker 4: twenty some touchdowns again and seventeen hundred yards. This is

468
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Speaker 4: I wrote about a while ago, and others have to

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Speaker 4: This is. This is Daniel Jones twenty two, twenty two,

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Speaker 4: when he had Barkley and the Giants went whatever was

471
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Speaker 4: nine and seven, whatever it was, and made the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: You're not asking to do too much, but but he's

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Speaker 4: just making the right it's what seventy one seventy two

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Speaker 4: percent completions. I just posted something on on Twitter and

475
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Speaker 4: I double and triple checked it is he's had one

476
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Speaker 4: hundred plus rating in six out of seven games. And

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Speaker 4: I went and checked how many Colts quarterbacks have had

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Speaker 4: one hundred plus rating in six of their first seven games?

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Speaker 4: And you know how mean it is. It's Daniel Jones,

480
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Speaker 4: that's it. Not Peyton, not Andrew Luck, not John Unitis.

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Speaker 4: So in there not like one one point fifty, it's

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Speaker 4: like one thirteen, one oh one, one thirteen, you know,

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Speaker 4: one oh five. It's just methodical and efficient. And that's

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Speaker 4: why I say what they're doing it should sustain because

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Speaker 4: you know, well, what Tyler oron can't keep doing that? Well,

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Speaker 4: why can't he? They haven't. Really, he's not hit that

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Speaker 4: big game yet either. He's just kind of not so

488
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Speaker 4: crazy with five catches and sixty yards and a touchdown,

489
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Speaker 4: so and they're going to get Down's back. So I

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Speaker 4: this is really, really, this is Shane Styke and being

491
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Speaker 4: able to use his playbook, not a third of it,

492
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Speaker 4: but all of it. I only hope, and knowing Shane

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Speaker 4: the way I've gotten to know him over the last

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Speaker 4: couple of years is he doesn't get you know, this

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Speaker 4: is pretty fun. Let's see if we can go to

496
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Speaker 4: you know, page one, fourteen and pull this thing out

497
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 4: a crazy play because he likes he likes to do that.

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Speaker 4: We saw that little last year and did and they'll

499
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Speaker 4: they'll try some funky things with Tyler Warren. But boy,

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Speaker 4: it's just fun to watch this offense. It's not it's

501
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Speaker 4: not the pyrotechnics of Peyton and Marvin and Reggie and Edgern.

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Speaker 4: It's different, but it's just as just as effective.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think one of the things that's effective about

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Speaker 1: it is the clock management of it as well, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and the fact that that you know they're

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Speaker 1: able to sustain long drives and keep if you're going

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Speaker 1: up against chap, a buffalo or a Kansas City, and

508
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Speaker 1: I know that those teams have had their their speed

509
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Speaker 1: bumps to this point, although Karands of City is starting

510
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Speaker 1: to come to form a little bit, or even Cincinnati.

511
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Speaker 1: If you're going up against a rhythm offense, the Colts offense,

512
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Speaker 1: to me, is very dangerous because they can they can

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Speaker 1: hold it on for six and a half seven minutes

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Speaker 1: in efficiency and just keep you out of rhythm. Right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's very similar to the way that we

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Speaker 1: saw teams try to play against the Peyton Manning Colts

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Speaker 1: right right right, and that's you know, go ahead is

518
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Speaker 1: game the game.

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Speaker 4: Because again, when they're going against Justin Herbert, I think

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Speaker 4: it was pretty obvious to me that psych and knew

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Speaker 4: they needed points. And that second drive when they went

522
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Speaker 4: up went for fourth down three time times instead of

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Speaker 4: a field goal. He just told it, told me that

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Speaker 4: he knew that they rant score. Now, whether that was

525
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Speaker 4: respect for Justin Herbert or concern over his defense, probably

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Speaker 4: a little bit of both, Probably a lot of Herbert

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Speaker 4: and some on the defense. So and again, how much

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Speaker 4: does he trust Michael Badgeley. I don't know, I really don't,

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Speaker 4: But at some point Badly is gonna have to make

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Speaker 4: some field goals that you know, the forty five yards

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Speaker 4: that matter. So but right now, gosh, again everything's and

532
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Speaker 4: knock on wood. They stayed relatively healthy on offense, with

533
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Speaker 4: the exception of downs with the concussion. But and again

534
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Speaker 4: it's fun to watch. And again they're just not doing anything.

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Speaker 4: Like Jones said, crazy, this should sustain itself because again, Taylor,

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Speaker 4: we're waiting for Taylor. I'm waiting for Taylor, who's having

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Speaker 4: a great season to have one of those Taylor games

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Speaker 4: where he's two hundred yards. So he's just been fun

539
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Speaker 4: to watch so far.

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Speaker 1: Is the best offensive line in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Probably probably, and you've got two second year players on

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Speaker 4: it with Bordolini and Gonzalvez and Quintin. Well, he's back

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Speaker 4: to where he's just a highlight reel when he's pulling

544
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Speaker 4: and spiking guys.

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Speaker 1: And look, I was and I wasn't alone in this.

546
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Speaker 1: I was probably wrong or I was wrong in saying

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Speaker 1: that while it's great to have a dominant left guard,

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Speaker 1: that is not a position that is a game wrecking

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Speaker 1: changer for you. And yet they have managed to turn

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Speaker 1: that into that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is funny and it's not meant a disrespect

552
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Speaker 4: Rick van Jerry. We were on that boat from the

553
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Speaker 4: start using the six overall pick on our guard. And

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Speaker 4: let's again, I would much rather have a premium position,

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Speaker 4: a pass rusherroo a left tackle with that pick. And

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Speaker 4: then when you're right on the pick, you got to

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Speaker 4: pay him, you know whatever. It was twenty million a

558
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Speaker 4: year and it's not meant to disrespect to Quentin at all.

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Speaker 4: But I allowed Howard Mudd to influence my thinking back

560
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Speaker 4: in the day with the Colson and his point was

561
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Speaker 4: get you two tackles and a center and plug and

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Speaker 4: play guards. And again that I realized that's a disrespect

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Speaker 4: for all guards everywhere. But Quentin, I tell you it's

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Speaker 4: and he's more than just a great player if the

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Speaker 4: locker room is influenced on everybody else, and that's one

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Speaker 4: of the he's one of those guys and positions where

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Speaker 4: it's really hard to quantify. Yeah, you can throw up

568
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Speaker 4: the great blocks and all that, but you know, it's

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Speaker 4: hard to quantify his influence on the team like you

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Speaker 4: would a quarterback or a pass rusher or a great corner.

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Speaker 4: But I still would would rather have somebody another position

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Speaker 4: with the number six pick. But boy, it's hard to

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Speaker 4: argue with. That's what Quintin has brought to these guys.

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Speaker 1: Mike Chapels my guest CBS four, WXA and Fox fifty nine.

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Speaker 1: He is on the Java House Peel and Port guest line.

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Speaker 1: Chap in conclusion here and look, I realized this is

577
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Speaker 1: cart way before the horse, or in this case, the colt. Okay,

578
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Speaker 1: but we're gonna do it anyway. If you were to envision,

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Speaker 1: it's not hard right now to start thinking about this

580
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Speaker 1: if you go outside and that crispit air. So I

581
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Speaker 1: want you to envision like that early to mid January game.

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Speaker 1: It's I you know, for that matter, the Colts may

583
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Speaker 1: be at home in the situation I'm about to present,

584
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Speaker 1: but it's late in the game. It's a later in

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Speaker 1: the round playoff game and you're taking on Mahomes or

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. And it's been one of those offensive shootout games.

587
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Speaker 1: Rigoberto Sanchez has been, you know, hanging out on the sidelines,

588
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Speaker 1: hasn't been on the field a lot. It's one of

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Speaker 1: those games like we saw between you know, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and Colts of yesteryear, offensive shootout and it comes down

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Speaker 1: to it and the opposition has the ball got to

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Speaker 1: go eighty yards two and a half minutes left and

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Speaker 1: it's a five point game. Do you believe right now,

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Speaker 1: the way that they're equipped, that the Colts in this

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Speaker 1: situation have the capability of shutting down a high powered

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Speaker 1: offense like that when it truly matters most.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I mean no. And again, whenever we talk

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Speaker 4: about that, it's like we're dumping on a six to

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Speaker 4: one team. No, we're just trying to say what's obvious.

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Speaker 4: And now to the other around, and they needed to

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Speaker 4: drive eighty yards and you're down five, I'd like their chances,

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Speaker 4: but depending on the defense. No. No, But that's why

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Speaker 4: when we opened up by saying they need to make

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Speaker 4: a move. Now you give me mooney wardback and another

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Speaker 4: corner and maybe a pass rusher then and we're talking

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Speaker 4: something different. But as they're made up right now, how

607
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 4: do you trust the secondary to hold up against one

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Speaker 4: of those guys? And by the way, if this plays

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Speaker 4: out it you know, if the playoffs started today, well,

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Speaker 4: they'd be home the second round, right, you know, second

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Speaker 4: probably second round with where they are, and it would

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Speaker 4: be against not Mahomes or or Allan, but probably I

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Speaker 4: don't know Denver, I don't know, or who'd be there.

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Speaker 4: The the wild card would be Houston. Maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'd have to look at it deeper. But no, do

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Speaker 4: I trust what I trust the defense in the way

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Speaker 4: of structured now, No, not, not not at all. And

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Speaker 4: if that upsets some people will then go out and

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Speaker 4: get a cornerback.

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Speaker 1: Well the again. And so let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: based on precedent of what we have known from the past,

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Speaker 1: can you win games by Because this is where I

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Speaker 1: again I'm not trying to harp on the negative here,

624
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Speaker 1: but I go back to where the Colts have had

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Speaker 1: and we've seen it in this town a lot, where

626
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Speaker 1: they've had great offenses. It's hard to long term win

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Speaker 1: based on your offense, right Like, you have to get

628
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Speaker 1: some counter to that.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, look at those Manning years where they remember

630
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Speaker 4: the back to back games where they didn't punt. Yeah,

631
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Speaker 4: against Kansas City and dim.

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Speaker 1: And your offense goes flat.

633
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Speaker 4: Right now, it was outside and all that stuffy, and

634
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: they let the Patriots mug them and all that.

635
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Speaker 2: Yes, I stay that.

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Speaker 4: No, your point at some point, That's why I said,

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Speaker 4: at some point, you can't keep asking for your offense.

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00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 4: Let's score thirty five points. At some point, at some point,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna have to win a game that means something

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Speaker 4: twenty seventeen or seventeen thirteen. And that's where at some

641
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Speaker 4: point the defense is going to have to stand up

642
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: and make a stop. I realized they did against Brissette

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Speaker 4: two weeks ago. I would still argue that that Crystal

644
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Speaker 4: Minds held McBride the end zone, but they didn't call it, so,

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Speaker 4: so they didn't so so it wasn't a penalty. But

646
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Speaker 4: but I just, yeah, at some point the defense has

647
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Speaker 4: to step up. And the way it's structured now, I

648
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: think it's hard. And that's with with the force Buckner

649
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Speaker 4: playing all World again in Grover Stewart making a big

650
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Speaker 4: boy interception, which was just it was like watching a

651
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Speaker 4: bear grab a salmon and then going to the It

652
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 4: was a great, great stuff, great stuff. But now you

653
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Speaker 4: got to have cornerback play. And and right now they're

654
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Speaker 4: playing Gosh, it's always I'm always jumping on guys. They're

655
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Speaker 4: playing corners now that in a in a in an

656
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Speaker 4: ideal situation, in their ideal situation, wouldn't be playing. That's

657
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 4: just a fact. You play who you play, you play

658
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Speaker 4: who you got, but they need help there and I

659
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Speaker 4: wouldn't be opposed to a pass rusher as well.

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Speaker 1: Chap appreciate the time. As always. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: next week, all right, me will appreciated. Mike Chapel joining

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Speaker 1: Colombian I should say coffee, which is fabulous, absolutely fabulous.

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Speaker 1: Note your Dame with the big win over USC over

672
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Speaker 1: the weekend. I'm going to ask Tom Noy a question

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Speaker 1: that of course he joins us from South Bend. Tom,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you a question we always have

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Speaker 1: you on to talk Notre Dame football that has nothing

676
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: to do with Notre Dame but does have to do

677
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Speaker 1: with sports in Indiana. In order to generate conversation on

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Speaker 1: this program. Is that fair?

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Speaker 3: It's your show. You can do whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So based on that, do you prefer the Beatles

681
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Speaker 1: are the who? No, I'm just kidding. Okay, this is

682
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: still within your wheelhouse because obviously you're a sports columnist

683
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Speaker 1: within the state of Indiana, and but I'm curious of this.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that there is any this story with

685
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Speaker 1: Indiana who you saw obviously taking on Notre Dame. We

686
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Speaker 1: talked to you plenty about it leading up to the

687
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, Indiana football and Kurt Signetti and all

688
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: that is going into this, the new contract, the number

689
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Speaker 1: two ranking, the potential Heisman winner, all of it. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that there is any way that that then

691
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Speaker 1: tempers the annual enthusiasm that Indiana fans have towards their

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Speaker 1: basketball program, and in fact, does the mediocrity of Indiana

693
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Speaker 1: basketball over the last twenty years finally begin to I

694
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Speaker 1: guess down the enthusiasm that the fan base has for

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Speaker 1: that particular program. Is there a shift?

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Speaker 3: I think it would dampen it if Mike Woodson was

697
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Speaker 3: still the coach. Fair the fact that there's a new

698
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Speaker 3: head coach, there's a new direction. I think there's a

699
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Speaker 3: lot of carryover. Maybe a lot of IU basketball fans

700
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Speaker 3: look at Darren Devrees and say he's going to do

701
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Speaker 3: for IU basketball what Kirk Sinnetti has done for IU football,

702
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Speaker 3: and everything's going to be back on that campus. So

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Speaker 3: I think that if this was Mike Woodson, again, everybody like, eh,

704
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Speaker 3: basketball starting, But who cares. We have the number two

705
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Speaker 3: ranked team football football team in the country, We're going

706
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Speaker 3: back to the college football Playoff. We might beat Ohio

707
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Speaker 3: State in the Big Ten Championship game football football football.

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Speaker 3: But the fact that there's a new coach in the

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Speaker 3: new new direction, I think I think it there's there's

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Speaker 3: enough going around down.

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Speaker 1: There that does it put pressure on Devrees?

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Speaker 3: No, not at all, Not at all. I mean there's

713
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Speaker 3: going to be pressure regardless because the job that he

714
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 3: has and where he coaches. But like this is it's

715
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: a new world in college basketball where it's so hard

716
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Speaker 3: for a new coach to parachute in and build a

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Speaker 3: roster that's going to be a competitive or b NCAA

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Speaker 3: tournament worthy in year one?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? Okay? How about this one? And then

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Speaker 1: we're going to get to Notre Dame Because it does

721
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Speaker 1: someone involved what I'm about to talk about, I really

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Speaker 1: believe this. Tom. I'm going to give you a theory.

723
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Speaker 1: I do this sometimes on this show. I'm going to

724
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Speaker 1: give you a theory, and then Tom, NOI I want

725
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Speaker 1: you to grade it A to F A being like spectacular,

726
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Speaker 1: F being dumbest thing you've ever heard. Okay, Indiana is

727
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Speaker 1: going to lose the Big Ten championship game to Ohio

728
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Speaker 1: State and then turn around and defeat Ohio State in

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Speaker 1: the National Championship game. I truly believe this. I truly

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Speaker 1: believe this. Your thoughts, uh, the.

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Speaker 3: Query theory, I will give that a CEE right now, Okay,

732
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 3: because we don't know. It's all about like everybody talks about,

733
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Speaker 3: come NCAA Basketball, NCAA tournament time marks madness. This team's

734
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Speaker 3: going to the final four, this team's going to Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 3: It's all built on matchups. If Indiana can do whatever

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Speaker 3: it needs to do to get a maybe a first

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Speaker 3: round by or whatever, and then you see what their

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Speaker 3: matchup is and if they have a matchup like Penn

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Speaker 3: State did last year in what they had to play

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Speaker 3: Arizona State and SMU Right, yeah, I believe No in

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Speaker 3: Boise State like.

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Speaker 1: They No, that's right, Yeah, because Arizona State played Texas

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, so it was Boise State and SMU. Penn

745
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Speaker 3: State had a what was gifted a spot in the

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Speaker 3: in the NCAA, the College Football Playoff semi finals. So

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Speaker 3: unless we until we see the matchups, can't say, but heck,

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Speaker 3: why not? I mean this is it's It's the year

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Speaker 3: by un football.

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Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of Penn State, Tom Noy, our guest South

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Speaker 1: Ben Tribune, is Marcus Freeman a candidate for that job?

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Speaker 3: No? No, he's not a candidate for Penn State. He's not

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Speaker 3: a candidate for Florida. He's not a candidate for any

754
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 3: other job that's going to open up. Because I'm telling

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Speaker 3: you right now and nobody understands this, Marcus Freeman is

756
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Speaker 3: leaving the University of Notre Dame for exactly two jobs.

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Speaker 1: Can I guess? Can I guess you can? Ohio State, Yes, Alabama,

758
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Speaker 1: no retirement.

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Speaker 3: Two jobs, one in college and a team to be

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Speaker 3: named later in the NFL. That's it. He's going to

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Speaker 3: Ohio State. If Ryan Day decides he's had enough, Marcus

762
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Speaker 3: Freeman obvious choice. And then also maybe I've done enough

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Speaker 3: in college. I want to give this NFL thing a shot.

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Speaker 3: Those are the only jobs that Marcus Freeman will ever

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Speaker 3: leave Notre Dame for.

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Speaker 1: Is Marcus Freeman coaching a college football playoff team this year?

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Speaker 3: Yes, don't look now, but Notre Dame, as we sit

768
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: here on October twentieth, very well could be a breed

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Speaker 3: going back to the College Football Playoff and be hosting

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Speaker 3: a first round game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And is that because Notre Dame after their first

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Speaker 1: two disappointing losses that Notre Dame made changes in tweaks

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Speaker 1: and they have revised things and right to the ship

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Speaker 1: or they just kept doing what they were doing and

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Speaker 1: the schedule. And I mean that has no disrespect to them.

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Speaker 1: I think they're very, very good. But they lost to

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Speaker 1: two really good teams. Did they stay that? Did they

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00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: have to be composed or did they have to make changes?

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Speaker 3: I'll just say yes a little bit of both. Like

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00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: they had to make some changes defensively, but they also

781
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: had to stay the course because the first two weeks

782
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Speaker 3: it was you've got to fire Chris Ash. Chris Ash

783
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 3: is an idiot. He doesn't know how to coach defense.

784
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 3: This defense looks lost. They had the best defensive coach

785
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Speaker 3: assistant coach last year in the country in Al Golden

786
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Speaker 3: you got to get rid of Chris ash Marcus Freeman said, no,

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Speaker 3: we're not doing that. We're going to scale back on

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00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: what we're doing, but we're still gonna We're gonna stick

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Speaker 3: with the process. We're gonna stay We're gonna stay the course.

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Speaker 3: And look Arkansas, Boise State, NC State, USC, all four

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Speaker 3: of those teams had top ten offensive units when Notre

792
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Speaker 3: Dame played him, and all four of them finished with

793
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: fewer points against Notre Dame than what they came into

794
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: that game. Averaging that defense is the main reason they're

795
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Speaker 3: five and two and headed back to then the college

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Speaker 3: football playoffs.

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Speaker 1: How would you assess the quarterback play?

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Speaker 3: Good but a little bit shaky the last couple of

799
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Speaker 3: weeks with CJ. Carr, Like not shaky enough to where

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Speaker 3: you're like, you know what, maybe we should get Kenny

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Speaker 3: Minshey ready the backup shakey as in, he was so

802
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Speaker 3: good so early that you kind of expected that this

803
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: is gonna he was gonna have a dip. Like the

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00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: way he's the way he's running around, the way he

805
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: ran around against USC. I can't stand that because he

806
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: did the same thing against Miami. Yeah that happened, that

807
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 3: ended in a touchdown. This would this ended in a

808
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 3: bad pick, like just throw the ball away, get three points,

809
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: live to fight another down instead of being like I'm

810
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Speaker 3: just gonna I'm just gonna make something happen. So CJ.

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Speaker 3: Carr has been really good. And the part of the

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Speaker 3: problem is CJ.

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Speaker 1: Carr set the.

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Speaker 3: Bar so high so early in the season that he's

815
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Speaker 3: got to play really well to meet that standard every

816
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Speaker 3: single week.

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Speaker 1: Tom Noy is our guest South Ben and Tribune, where

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Speaker 1: you can read his work. He's on the Java House

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Speaker 1: Peel and Poor Guest line talking about Notre Dame and

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Speaker 1: Indiana for that matter. Tom One of the things to

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Speaker 1: me in college football this year that is interesting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Ohio State is outstanding, right and I think

823
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Speaker 1: I really feel like Ryan Day hasn't even taken the

824
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Speaker 1: governor off the engine yet. I mean, you know what

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00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean. They I just I think the world of

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, even though I don't like him, But it

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Speaker 1: seems to be a wide open year this year, I

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Speaker 1: mean outside of and that's why I'm really optimistic for Indiana,

829
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Speaker 1: partially because Indiana, also, I think is really good. But

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Speaker 1: who's a dominant team in college football? We haven't mentioned Alabama?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean because of what happened that first week

832
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Speaker 3: where it was like, what do you know, Taylin Debora,

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Speaker 3: He's gonna get fired, he loses, that's Florida State. They

834
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Speaker 3: just quietly, just like Notre Dame has done, has done,

835
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Speaker 3: they step back into the shadows, keep working, keep winning,

836
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Speaker 3: keep getting better. Talk about Ohio State, talk about Indiana,

837
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 3: talk about the de Grease fire at Penn State. We're

838
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 3: just going to be Alabama right here, and we're going

839
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Speaker 3: to be Tennessee and then we're gonna get ready and

840
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 3: we're going to finish out the SEC schedule. I think

841
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: Alabama is a lot better than what teams than a

842
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: lot of people give him credit for, because of what

843
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 3: happened the way they started the year.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you I mean, I don't know how

845
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: old I would have to be to truly grasp that

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00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt and Indiana are ranked in the top ten. Oh

847
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: what the hell's going on? Tom? What are we doing here? Right?

848
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Speaker 3: Is this?

849
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: Honestly? Like I feel like Bob Gregor is going to

850
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: come out and tell me that actually what we're watching

851
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: is the brain game, right.

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00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: Let's throw Georgia Tech in there too.

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00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Georgia Tech. Listen, I watched Georgia Tech eviscerate my

854
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: Clemson Tigers, and Clemson that's a whole different talk show, right.

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00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what the heck's going on there,

856
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: But again I think Tom, and you tell me if

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00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 1: if I'm making too much of this Indiana and that story. Yes,

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00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti was a tremendous hire by Scott Dolson, and

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Speaker 1: yes they they have done a remarkable job. And I

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Speaker 1: think one of the things though for Indiana that when

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Speaker 1: the thirty for thirty comes out that needs to be

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Speaker 1: discussed is Indiana was at the forefront in terms of

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Speaker 1: nil collectives and it was the perfect storm in college

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Speaker 1: football in the last three to five years. The perfect

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Speaker 1: storm was developing for someone to jump in and take

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Speaker 1: over the wheel in the left lane, and that's someone

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Speaker 1: in the Big ten. Was Indiana? Am I wrong? No?

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Speaker 3: And have others? And that would allow other schools to

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Speaker 3: be like, you know what, we can make that sort

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Speaker 3: of commitment and get that serious about football, which is

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Speaker 3: why Kurt Netty does not have to go to Penn State.

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Speaker 3: He can do everything he wants to do and accomplish

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Speaker 3: everything that people want him to accomplish at a place

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Speaker 3: like Indiana. And five years ago we would never have

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Speaker 3: said that, nor would we would have dreamed it. But

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Speaker 3: this is college football now, where you can win in Indiana,

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Speaker 3: you can win at Vanderbilt, you can win at Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 3: You could go to Penn State and have everything collapse.

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Speaker 3: It's not just a core four or five, six, seven

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Speaker 3: different programs. Everybody has a chance in this new revenue

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Speaker 3: sharing and paying players era that we are in in

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Speaker 3: college football today.

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Speaker 1: And Tom doesn't Penn State football kind of feel like

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Speaker 1: what Indiana basketball went through in a coaching search year

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Speaker 1: in a year out of like a lot of big

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Speaker 1: time coaches. I think, look at it and go, why

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Speaker 1: would I go there?

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Speaker 3: Like? I wouldn't want that mess? Would you? Like James Franklin. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know his record was against top twenty five teams

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Speaker 3: and big, big games and all those other failures. But

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Speaker 3: the guy did win ten eleven games, ten eleven games,

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Speaker 3: ten eleven games, and it still wasn't good enough. That's

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Speaker 3: that's a that's a pretty hard sell for the next guy.

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Speaker 3: I know it's Fenn State and everything, but you got

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Speaker 3: to you got to the freaking national semi final game

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Speaker 3: a year ago, and all of a sudden, now you're

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Speaker 3: on the unemployment line.

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Speaker 1: Now. I trademarked the phrase why not Indiana, which I'm

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Speaker 1: very proud of, by the way, and I'm thinking now

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Speaker 1: about and let me tell you something, there's no biggest,

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Speaker 1: no bigger pain arduous, you know, long drawn out process

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Speaker 1: in the keyster like getting a trademark. It's it's a nightmare.

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Speaker 1: But I did do it. I would trademark query theory

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Speaker 1: except for that it's technically querry. And my dad was

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Speaker 1: very clear about the fact that I need to make

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Speaker 1: sure that people know that it's querry or not that.

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Speaker 1: But but I kind of like that, do you want

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Speaker 1: the trademark first DIBs on that or should I go

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Speaker 1: ahead and roll with that.

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Speaker 3: It's yours, Like I said, it's your show, mom man.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, always appreciate it's always accentuated by your

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Speaker 1: visits though we greatly appreciate it absolutely, all right, Tom

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Speaker 1: Nooyd joining us South Bend Tribune. Appreciate the time Tom

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Speaker 1: as always, and have a great week. Java House peel

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Speaker 1: and poor Guess line