WEBVTT - A History of Violence

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<v Speaker 1>The France per Second Podcast. Welcome to the France for

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<v Speaker 1>a Second podcast. I am Spike Lou and today we

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<v Speaker 1>are reviewing History of Violence. Here today with me, I

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<v Speaker 1>have Kim Hello. Next to Kin, I have Rode, and

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<v Speaker 1>across from Rod, I have Mike Yo. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing the History of Violence today, guys. History of

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<v Speaker 1>Violence is a two thousand and five film directed by

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<v Speaker 1>David Kronberg. Layer film works in both lean thriller and

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<v Speaker 1>deep psychological stuff. So the History of Violence is a

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<v Speaker 1>anniversary film that we're doing. It dropped in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and five and this is the twenty year anniversary of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I will go around the room here. What did you

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<v Speaker 1>think about the movie when it came out and what

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<v Speaker 1>did you think about the rewatch?

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<v Speaker 2>Mike A one of both.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this movie.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't watched it a bunch of times, but nah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep, Roy, I will say you, yeah, I thought I

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<v Speaker 5>saw this movie all the way through, but apparently I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking it was a different movie.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't remember what movie that is, but I thought

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<v Speaker 5>it was a different movie. So I remember some scenes

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<v Speaker 5>but I didn't remember. But when I started watching, I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, wait, I don't think I remember this watching

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<v Speaker 5>this whole thing. But no, I thought it was good.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was good, Ken, What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I was bored out of my mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>Both times.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is my first time watching it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to understand the hype.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get I think the story's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I guess for two thousand and five, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mob killer or whatever and some self imposed witness protection.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was just and I don't know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, all right, this is cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It did feel pretty basic.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't say I thought it was I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it did.

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<v Speaker 5>It did like a pretty basic story, but I thought

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<v Speaker 5>it was still done pretty well though, Like why you

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<v Speaker 5>look like that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'll say, so you saying that you was born

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<v Speaker 2>out of your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>Kid?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know the premise of it before you?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know anything about the movie, Spike, I went

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<v Speaker 1>in blind. So did you think what did you suspect

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<v Speaker 1>there being something going on as far as him living

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<v Speaker 1>like a double life or having a previous life.

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<v Speaker 2>Only only.

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<v Speaker 1>When he killed the other two people. That's because he

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<v Speaker 1>did that shit too easy. But prior to that, not

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<v Speaker 1>like it, like, I don't know, I'm definitely going to

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<v Speaker 1>go into it, but I know that when it started

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<v Speaker 1>off like the way they set it up in the beginning, Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to rewind that ship back. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh shit, that's what happened because I did not see

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<v Speaker 1>that ship come when he went back into the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>and all the motherfuckers were dead, because they made it

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<v Speaker 1>seem like they were just checking out.

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<v Speaker 3>What I think that, bro, that ship was that shit

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<v Speaker 3>was dope.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think was happening, Bron? I thought, that's

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<v Speaker 5>exactly what was happening. Yeah, what did the man? He's like,

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<v Speaker 5>what took you so long?

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<v Speaker 3>Or something like that. It was something about the way

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<v Speaker 3>he said he said with the man. Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>He killed him or whatever. Yeah, when that one when

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<v Speaker 5>he said.

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<v Speaker 1>That, he thought that originally like just being sketchy as fu.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they looked like gangsters watched.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what we're talking about is it open the scene

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<v Speaker 1>with the two drifters they leave them hotel, we see

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<v Speaker 1>a woman and the girl dead off screen, and that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of says the tone for the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>And you said that I was gonna say, I just.

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<v Speaker 5>Love the way they shot this with the pants and

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<v Speaker 5>then the zooms out and they kept they kept the

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<v Speaker 5>camera just one shot, not not not like one shot scene,

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<v Speaker 5>but like they kept the camera in the same spot

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<v Speaker 5>and they just panned it and moved it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought that was a really really dope way

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<v Speaker 3>of telling the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the thought about in a particular scene throughout the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>in this.

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<v Speaker 5>Particular scene, they did it a couple of times, but

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<v Speaker 5>I definitely noticed to hear what They pulled away from

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<v Speaker 5>the hotel, panned over and they kept the camera on

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<v Speaker 5>the opposite side of the car, and you see them

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<v Speaker 5>conversing right there. It don't cut to him, cut to him.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just one shot and they panting it over and

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<v Speaker 5>he just moved the car up a little and then

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<v Speaker 5>you see him come out the door. I thought that

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<v Speaker 5>was really dope.

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<v Speaker 2>The way they executed it was it was it was creepy.

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<v Speaker 3>Creepy. Yeah, yeah, it made That's what I think it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It did make it feel creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do y'all think that they started with violence before

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<v Speaker 1>we got to the even into who any of the

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<v Speaker 1>characters were, Mike, since you looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that.

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<v Speaker 4>This goes to y'all hurting my soul saying this is

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<v Speaker 4>a simple ass story. Actually, you know what, let them answer.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't try to steal my hands.

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<v Speaker 1>kN being the first one, first time, rod Rod, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm trying to get somebody to take the baby?

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<v Speaker 3>Come on?

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<v Speaker 1>So my question, Ron, why do you think they started

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<v Speaker 1>with their violence and all the descriptions stuff you said

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<v Speaker 1>before we even meet any characters.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, just to kind of set up Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 5>what what are we dealing with? They have to set

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<v Speaker 5>that up somewhere even even I think what really set

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<v Speaker 5>that off was them killing the little girl or whatnot,

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<v Speaker 5>them killing you know, the staff and all that, because

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<v Speaker 5>they are gangsters and they trying to bounce from town

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<v Speaker 5>to town.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that was I felt like that was pretty basic.

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<v Speaker 5>But when they but when they did, when he shot

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<v Speaker 5>the little girl, I was like, whoa, Okay, this is another.

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<v Speaker 3>Level of killer, another level of what's the word I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking for with somebody? Just don't psychopaths. I don't even

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<v Speaker 3>say psychopaths something like that, but I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 3>just showed another level of killer.

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<v Speaker 1>So we really killed a little girl?

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<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, what you thought he missed.

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<v Speaker 2>Real, we didn't see we didn't see the body.

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<v Speaker 5>We heard the body, he said, and the other the

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<v Speaker 5>other scene was an image cut.

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<v Speaker 3>So she cuts to the other girl screaming from a

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<v Speaker 3>bad dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that implies that that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>For a second, I thought, uh uh, that little girl

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<v Speaker 1>was like she was just having a nightmare, and that

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Stalls was one of the other guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl didn't look nothing like that little girl was like

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<v Speaker 3>Mexican or some ship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not something's wrong with her, that something's wrong with Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your answer? My answer is this movie.

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<v Speaker 4>If you just look at the damn title of the film,

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<v Speaker 4>this is not a simple story, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really not a wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on time. I'm sorry, what do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>this damn movie? Because you never said, oh you didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not.

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<v Speaker 2>I was hosting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I liked it when it first came out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was bored, like he in the second time around,

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<v Speaker 1>when she I feel like, once you know, it's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like the usual suspects in the sense of once

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<v Speaker 1>I know what's going on. I kind of thought about

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<v Speaker 1>it in the beginning. Excuse me, the first time watch

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thought maybe it could be this, maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>could be there, but knowing how it's going to end.

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<v Speaker 1>On the second watch, it didn't resonate as much for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I loved it the first time it came up,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I first watched it.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I feel that this is not a movie

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<v Speaker 4>that's like, oh, now, it's not I've probably seen it

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a handful of times, but every time it's enjoyable.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the fact that it's called a.

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<v Speaker 4>History of Violence and we're watching the violence and how

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<v Speaker 4>it affects different people throughout the film, and we'll get

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<v Speaker 4>to some of the stuff later, some of the symbolism.

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<v Speaker 4>I really disagree that this is a simple movie. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's a pretty in depth movie. And Cronenberg did

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<v Speaker 4>such an interesting thing with how he broke this down

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<v Speaker 4>and how he made violence effect everybody differently. But starting

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<v Speaker 4>off with violence, it makes sense because that is kind

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<v Speaker 4>of what leads us into the story of these other

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<v Speaker 4>people and what they're going through and how they're processing thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I thought I thought it kicked off pretty

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<v Speaker 4>fucking well, like you know when you shoot the little girls, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this movie's out about no bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense, So you say, meet other people.

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<v Speaker 1>From there, we go to the small town life living

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<v Speaker 1>of Tom Stall, his wife Edie, and his kids, Jack

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<v Speaker 1>and Sarah. Tom runs a diron. Jack is being bullied

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<v Speaker 1>at school. We just get an insight into what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like the ideal suburban family. Did you suspect

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<v Speaker 1>anything else from this, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>I knew it had to be something at some point,

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<v Speaker 5>but I mean, they don't. They don't set it up

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<v Speaker 5>to where you was suspect anything. They set it up

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<v Speaker 5>for you to just take it their face value. That's

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<v Speaker 5>what it is. And we we are to assume that

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<v Speaker 5>these these guys are gonna come and disrupt this time

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<v Speaker 5>as well, so but we don't know exactly how that's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna play out. So then they also introduced, like you said,

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<v Speaker 5>the bully to it or whatnot, And you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't I don't know if that led down a certain path,

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<v Speaker 5>but that did make me what I what I want

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<v Speaker 5>to what I want to bring up a little later.

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<v Speaker 5>I want about the bullying situation, because I did think

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's the whole whole family playing stupid. Like at

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<v Speaker 5>some point, I'm like all these motherfucker's violent and we

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<v Speaker 5>just you know, everybody's just playing nice.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it did make me think that for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we've seen it was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more than meets the eye.

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<v Speaker 1>When they were doing a role play with the chi

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<v Speaker 1>leader of the dad, I mean, my mom was acting

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<v Speaker 1>like a chileader.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just felt like they weren't as innocent as

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<v Speaker 1>they seem. I wasn't judging them. I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>king chaming at all. I'm not shaming. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like it was more than meats toy. Based

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<v Speaker 1>off that, I actually thought that they seemed vanilla. They

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like missionary sex people, like, not like role play people.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, So I actually thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>dope because I thought, for whatever reason, that they were

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<v Speaker 1>like like high school sweethearts or something, and that something

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<v Speaker 1>happened and they didn't really get a chance to like

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe they something like that, and that's why they

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<v Speaker 1>were kind of role playing to have that that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that moment that they didn't have, you know, in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't know he was he was, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about him. You know, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the thing with the kid was was interesting because I

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<v Speaker 1>love the way he kind of de escalated the whole situation.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, all right, yeah, you know, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>man in the in the situation, or you should establish

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<v Speaker 1>your alpha status and you know, you get this. You

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<v Speaker 1>did that, and I was like, damn, that shit was

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<v Speaker 1>dope as fuck. And he just left the kid that

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<v Speaker 1>looking stupid, So that shit was. That shit was dope

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<v Speaker 1>as fuck. But yeah, yeah, so you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's your stereotypical introduction to the family. Rod. I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking that those guys were gonna come to this

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<v Speaker 1>diner and take over the diner and it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a hostile situation the rest of the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So at this point, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is what I'm thinking, So we can continue, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you have some move? That's what we moved.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was about the whole did you have some move? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was a really really, really really important part.

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<v Speaker 4>They were they were defining the family and when you

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<v Speaker 4>were talking about oh, it was like they were just

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<v Speaker 4>some some freaks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought that I didn't say it, don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>put that on I just said it was Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>never said anything but.

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<v Speaker 3>Imbliged you think they freeze.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that this I thought this was a

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<v Speaker 4>bit on the nose. So you didn't take anything from

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<v Speaker 4>them ending that sex scene with sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what would you feel?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, seen nobody do that in the movie.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, that's right. But if you really think about it,

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<v Speaker 4>what is sixty nine. It's like the and the way

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<v Speaker 4>that they were doing it. They were doing it from

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<v Speaker 4>side to side, so it's like the perfect balance, right,

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<v Speaker 4>like there was nobody that was in control. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that that was them trying to establish like this is

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<v Speaker 4>the perfectly balanced family. The little girl starts crying, they

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<v Speaker 4>run in and they're all helping. When the dad and

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<v Speaker 4>the mom fuck, they.

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<v Speaker 5>Are turning side to side and they're both pleasing each

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<v Speaker 5>other because they are in an equal relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually thought it was a little corny.

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<v Speaker 2>What you got all that from that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, because again I don't think this is a simple story.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that, having watched Cronenberg films, if you watch

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<v Speaker 4>something and you say, dang, I ain't seen six' nine

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<v Speaker 4>in the movie in.

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<v Speaker 5>A, minute then you have to, think why is that?

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<v Speaker 5>Here and why did they end the scene with that.

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<v Speaker 1>PART i thought he was just you, KNOW i thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was, just you, know you just want to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>different you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know and well she wanted she didn't want to initiated.

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<v Speaker 4>It, yeah we'll get more into this, later but, YES

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<v Speaker 4>i think that there was a very specific reason that

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<v Speaker 4>they did.

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<v Speaker 2>That interesting because sex is a part of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Movie it's a very important part of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Movie mm, hm, damn.

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<v Speaker 3>What the hell WAS i? Watching are you sure you watched?

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<v Speaker 3>It what did you? WANT i got other parts of

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<v Speaker 3>the sets BECAUSE i missed.

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<v Speaker 1>That but we go from there to What mike was

0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.880
<v Speaker 1>getting into and we Meet tom excuse, me the two

0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.079
<v Speaker 1>drifters to go to rob the, Diner like kid was,

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<v Speaker 1>Saying tom quickly kills both of, them way more skill

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<v Speaker 1>set than people would have thought a small town random

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<v Speaker 1>man would have. Had first time looking at, it you

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<v Speaker 1>said you thought it was gonna turn into a hot.

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<v Speaker 3>Situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah when they walked, in kidnapped the, woman you, know

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<v Speaker 1>and then he cracked the guys out, there pop hop

0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.840
<v Speaker 1>out shot the other. GUY i was, Like, oh this motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>Military but that's WHAT i was going to ask. You

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<v Speaker 1>once you've seen. Him he was too, comfortable like it

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<v Speaker 1>was too, easy you, know BECAUSE i was, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad COULD i do something like?

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<v Speaker 2>That you, know but he just he looked.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbothered when he, Did i'm, like wait a, minute so that's,

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<v Speaker 1>it BECAUSE i thought they were about to wreck havoc

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<v Speaker 1>and then it was just, over.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, nah Y'ALL e meant the right one?

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<v Speaker 1>Today if, so then at this Point i'm, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well all, right so maybe they were not doing. ANYTHING i, said,

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<v Speaker 1>okay so maybe they were part of a, family especially

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<v Speaker 1>when the car came, up and you, know some The

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<v Speaker 1>mob family is gonna come to the city and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be fighting off The mobs family for the rest of.

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<v Speaker 5>The movie in the. City that's WHAT i was, Thinking,

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<v Speaker 5>Bike and none of that shit. Happened what was you?

0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.360
<v Speaker 5>THINKING i thought it happened like everything escalated pretty. Quickly,

0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:51.040
<v Speaker 5>ACTUALLY i didn't think they was gonna set it off that,

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<v Speaker 5>Fast LIKE i thought it was gonna take some. TIME

0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.040
<v Speaker 5>i didn't think it was gonna be a hot. SITUATION

0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:57.480
<v Speaker 5>i just thought it was gonna take a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>more time to. Escalate but it happened fairly.

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<v Speaker 3>Quick he. Did, yeah so so, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But seeing him do all the you, know the coffee pot,

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<v Speaker 5>stuff you, know taking the, pistol shooting one all.

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<v Speaker 3>THAT i was, like, YEAH i was thinking to like

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<v Speaker 3>military or something like. That he might have been.

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<v Speaker 1>The the thing is like it happened, quick and then

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like a bunch of movie after.

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<v Speaker 3>That what do you mean a bunch of movie after?

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<v Speaker 5>That that's when it's like we had some action in my,

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<v Speaker 5>right and then it just kind of slowed down all

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<v Speaker 5>the way till we.

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<v Speaker 1>Get to when he met his Brother. Richie it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like you live in a. Town if you lived in

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<v Speaker 1>a town like this and you see what's what's his, Name, Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>tom Regular tom from the diner get down like, this

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<v Speaker 1>are you immediately thinking out something?

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<v Speaker 2>Up you think he just know how to defend.

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<v Speaker 3>HIMSELF i don't think he did anything that was that.

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<v Speaker 4>Crazy maybe it was the budget that they couldn't hire

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<v Speaker 4>like a good ass stump man to do some crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Shit but him bopping that dude in the face with

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<v Speaker 4>the with the coffee pot and then jumping over the,

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<v Speaker 4>Counter i'm, like, Okay i'm. There but then he got

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<v Speaker 4>the gun and he shot the one dude and he

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<v Speaker 4>got stabbed in the foot and he shot the other.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy like you didn't do nothing, special but.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like.

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<v Speaker 1>INSTINCT i think most people were coward in those, situations

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<v Speaker 1>just because y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Some holes of MEAN i.

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<v Speaker 1>Am but he did somebodybody come in The vegan restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>ready to? Rob yeah you're talking about, like well he

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<v Speaker 1>did it be in my?

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<v Speaker 3>Head, yeah BUT i don't know if BECAUSE i didn't

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<v Speaker 3>act it.

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<v Speaker 5>OUT i told him at one, TIME i got the

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<v Speaker 5>same thing happened in The Papa, Giants LIKE i was

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<v Speaker 5>in The Papa giants.

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<v Speaker 2>And somebody in my head somebody came and.

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<v Speaker 3>Robbed, yeah that came with guns.

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<v Speaker 2>BLAZING i wouldn't need guns blazing with.

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<v Speaker 3>Two guys the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing, yeah two guys guns blazing And i'm, like not,

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<v Speaker 5>blazing but guns pointed and and, yeah in my, Mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm, like, MAN i can probably take this. Motherfucker you

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<v Speaker 3>know What i'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Saying i'm, Like i'm looking around thinking about. IT i

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<v Speaker 5>can throw it something at, him BUT i did.

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<v Speaker 1>Not yeah that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Why so that's what jumped. In so it's something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>HAPPENED i could maybe didn't see myself jumping in at that.

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<v Speaker 5>Point you, know if if you, know if somebody tried

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<v Speaker 5>to take, him try about to kill a, woman if

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<v Speaker 5>it was Like megan or Like sophie sitting.

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<v Speaker 3>There, yeah, yeah he's, like Well i'm Gonna i'm gonna shoot, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah your kick, definitely.

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<v Speaker 5>Because i'm already thinking, it which he was already thinking it,

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<v Speaker 5>too like what he wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you can kind of see him processing because he.

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<v Speaker 5>Flinched at him and then pointed a gun at, him

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<v Speaker 5>like because he was gonna do something.

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<v Speaker 3>Tight it actually had to all, right, fuck it's fight

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<v Speaker 3>a flight.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, well let me ask you, This. Mike did he

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<v Speaker 1>recognize these? Motherfuckers of course he.

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<v Speaker 5>Did of course he. Did he's the one THAT i didn't. Think, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>no the first two. Guys, no HE i don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if he, KNEW i don't, Know.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why he did what he, did because he

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<v Speaker 1>knew that they were.

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<v Speaker 4>Killing, YEAH i don't. Know he he definitely the. TROUBLE

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<v Speaker 4>i don't know if he knew that they were.

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<v Speaker 2>From the from the.

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<v Speaker 3>WHATEVER i never thought about.

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<v Speaker 2>IT i always thought that he.

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<v Speaker 3>Recognized, no you're probably, right.

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<v Speaker 1>YEAH i always thought that it was, like oh, shit

0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.159
<v Speaker 1>LIKE i hope they don't recognize me or some shit like.

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<v Speaker 4>That but either, way even if he didn't recognize, them

0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:18.199
<v Speaker 4>the dude, said, no actually he must have Recognized.

0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking About Foggerty, spike not the guy with the,

0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:23.760
<v Speaker 1>eye about the guys that. Crew, yeah the guys that

0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.200
<v Speaker 1>came in The. Diamond, YEAH i thought he knew recognized

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<v Speaker 1>who they would like. THAT i think then it't paying

0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.320
<v Speaker 1>to him giving a little look or something. LIKE i

0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.760
<v Speaker 1>thound that he looked at. It and that's WHAT i

0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.440
<v Speaker 1>did like about this. Movie the first time he seen

0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.080
<v Speaker 1>it was something biggieous in the sense of is he

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<v Speaker 1>do he? LIKE i couldn't tell at, first but then second, watch.

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<v Speaker 4>You, KNOW i think even if he didn't recognize, HIM

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<v Speaker 4>i think the man he, was the fact that the

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<v Speaker 4>dudes that all right offer kill, HER i think he

0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.480
<v Speaker 4>would have don't had. To BUT i think those guys

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<v Speaker 4>must have recognized, him because why were they just so

0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:58.600
<v Speaker 4>bent on like we're gonna kill?

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<v Speaker 1>Her, NO i thought they were as the movie went,

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<v Speaker 1>ON i thought they were actually looking for.

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<v Speaker 4>Him, Yes SO i think that they must have knew

0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.280
<v Speaker 4>who he, was which means he must know who they,

0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:14.359
<v Speaker 4>were because there was no reason for them to kill that, woman,

0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.640
<v Speaker 4>right but he was, like go ahead and do it,

0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:18.879
<v Speaker 4>offer and that's what he jumped.

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.639
<v Speaker 1>In, WELL i, thought, well the reason WHY i thought

0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that part made sense is because if you're gonna kill

0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the damn little, girl then that part kind of helped

0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:29.879
<v Speaker 1>explain that these guys don't give a fuck about, anything

0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.080
<v Speaker 1>so they're willing to kill a little. Girl they'll kill,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody so they don't have any. Remorse but you, know

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<v Speaker 1>as it went, ON i thought that AS i got

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.000
<v Speaker 1>more moving and explaining what was going, ON i thought

0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.040
<v Speaker 1>That richie sent they found out where he. Was richie

0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.200
<v Speaker 1>sent them to the town to either verify to go get,

0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:51.520
<v Speaker 1>him and he recognized them as people from the, crew the,

0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:53.200
<v Speaker 1>crew and.

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<v Speaker 2>Once they didn't come, back he, comes.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no and that's probably why he reacted to

0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.000
<v Speaker 1>kill them in the way that he. Did SO i don't. Know,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah i'm adding a lot of this is my first time,

0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:04.880
<v Speaker 1>watching And i'm just trying to get some insight from

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.880
<v Speaker 1>those that. Have so you mentioned you Mentioned Carl. Father

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.560
<v Speaker 1>he came to town as a scarred. Mobster he arrives

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 1>in town and he, says you know, What tom is

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.320
<v Speaker 1>not who he Say he is not your local. Hero

0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:24.560
<v Speaker 1>this Is Joey, cusack Former philly. Gangster of Course tom denies,

0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.919
<v Speaker 1>this and my question to the crew is what Was

0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.560
<v Speaker 1>tom convincing in his denial of Being?

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<v Speaker 5>Cusack he, Was i'm gonna say he definitely, was but

0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 5>he could definitely tell he. Was he was nervous because

0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:41.080
<v Speaker 5>he kept checking all the news clippings and, stuff and he's, Like,

0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.959
<v Speaker 5>okay why is he concerned about, him you, know his

0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:45.960
<v Speaker 5>face being out there or.

0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Whatnot BUT i didn't think about.

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.800
<v Speaker 5>That, Afterwards i'm, Like, okay that's why he was like

0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:51.479
<v Speaker 5>that when he was watching the news and all. That

0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 5>but you, know he was definitely convincing THAT i don't

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:55.760
<v Speaker 5>know what you talking. About i'm just a nigga on the,

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<v Speaker 5>diner you know What i'm. Saying so, YEAH i was convinced, that,

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:01.640
<v Speaker 5>man these dudes they got the wrong.

0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:03.439
<v Speaker 3>Guy what'd you?

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<v Speaker 2>Think first time watching ause.

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:10.159
<v Speaker 3>This?

0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Guy david did a good job BECAUSE i thought he

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.720
<v Speaker 1>was just a hero and that's why he was watching the.

0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:19.159
<v Speaker 1>DUDES i don't think that he was thinking about, like,

0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.679
<v Speaker 1>damn did somebody recognize? ME i think that's why it's so.

0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Complex and while he shot shunned away from being a.

0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Hero up To mike's, point.

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:32.560
<v Speaker 1>That's why this movie is so complex and not really,

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:36.080
<v Speaker 1>simple because you. Can't the guy that Played tom did

0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:40.280
<v Speaker 1>a really good job of just being ambiguous and HE

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 1>i was, Like, Ron i'm looking at him like he

0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:44.800
<v Speaker 1>got something he, had BUT i don't got no.

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:46.360
<v Speaker 2>PROOF i just know you had.

0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.399
<v Speaker 1>THERE i didn't think he was hotting anything Until foggerty showed.

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Up even at that point in this, movie he was

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.359
<v Speaker 1>a hero. Everybody he was on the news, everywhere and

0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.679
<v Speaker 1>he was just kind of keeping up with it because

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're talking, about and he was just a

0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:02.399
<v Speaker 1>big star in the.

0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:07.200
<v Speaker 5>CITY i didn't even think about the fact that He, Yes,

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 5>mike what say you did?

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>That this whole, situation wh he's coming to the, town

0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>he's excusing you of being someone? Else how did He

0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.639
<v Speaker 1>his response, said did you think it was? Ambiguous or

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:19.800
<v Speaker 1>do you think he was? There it was telltale signs

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.400
<v Speaker 1>that he. Is dude thought he was the first TIME

0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.560
<v Speaker 1>i watched. IT i definitely did not think that he

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 1>was anybody. ELSE i was, LIKE i don't, KNOW i

0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:28.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's happening.

0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:30.639
<v Speaker 4>HERE i don't know what's going. On they're not giving

0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:33.840
<v Speaker 4>us any kind of explanation or. EXPOSITION i had no,

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:38.560
<v Speaker 4>idea had no. Idea what rewatching it now and again

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:42.440
<v Speaker 4>judging on the, budget AND i think that that first

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.040
<v Speaker 4>scene was maybe supposed to be like some super badass.

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Shit so maybe Now i'm just.

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:48.919
<v Speaker 4>Like, okay they're kind of giving it away that he.

0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.359
<v Speaker 4>Is you, know he's definitely somebody.

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Else speaking of giving it, away we moved to the

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:57.639
<v Speaker 1>escalation in school and we see the bully picked back.

0:22:57.760 --> 0:22:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Up it ain't going.

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Away we thought it was gonna go this time, around,

0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 1>though and you see his son beat the living shit

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 1>out a. Dude at that, point me, Myself i'm, thinking, oh,

0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>yeah dude got something else going. On he may Be

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 1>john cusaid because this is in his. Genes he ain't

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 1>the type to get bullied. Around he just didn't know

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>it was. Dad and it finally came out of ken

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 1>first time seeing. This did you put that? Together this

0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.440
<v Speaker 1>was a? Trade what did you think he just went

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>off with his daddy told him to. Do, NO i

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 1>did put it.

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Together it was a.

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 1>TRADE i looked at it as like he saw that

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>his dad was able to do, it SO i can

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 1>do it, too and that he was just trying to

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>emulate what his dad was did it Like i'm gonna

0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 1>stand up to, bullies so and he came up with

0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 1>a way to take them both down and that's what he.

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Did SO i think he just had a little bit

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 1>more confidence in himself because he showed no signs of

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>being able to fight or do any of that.

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Shit was this nature or? Nurture?

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Bro what do you THINK i think could have went either?

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 3>Way that's WHAT i was.

0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 5>Saying it was a little. Confusing it's, like, well, damn

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 5>like it is the family in on this whole. Ship

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 5>but because even the way he was explaining, it he's, like,

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 5>man you could have killed him or something like.

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 3>That he's, like, yeah you, KNOW i took a light on,

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Him like you know What i'm.

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 5>SAYING i didn't want to reveal THAT i.

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.399
<v Speaker 3>Had that's how he kind of made it.

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.879
<v Speaker 5>Seem but, nah once we realized like they didn't know

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 5>who he was, Either SO i was, like.

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay what say, you, like did you what do you

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 2>think they would try to?

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:31.360
<v Speaker 5>Say, NO i think that this implies WHAT i was saying,

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:33.440
<v Speaker 5>earlier that this is more of a complex.

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 4>STORY i think they were showing how violence uh impacts certain,

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 4>people and the son realizing that his dad was able

0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 4>to get out of a situation through, violence he saw

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:48.360
<v Speaker 4>that as being his way out.

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Too. Now as far as why he was able to

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 3>beat that, ass, yeah it could be.

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 4>Jeans it could be that he was, just you, know

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:58.439
<v Speaker 4>predisposed to having that type of fight or flight in

0:24:58.520 --> 0:24:59.880
<v Speaker 4>him once he realized.

0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:01.400
<v Speaker 3>It but, yeah he beat both of their.

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Asses do you think he wanted to fight him because

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>it looked like he was trying to walk away to

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 1>until the other kid came.

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 4>Up he was trying to walk, away but you can

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 4>also tell that he was struggling with, it like part

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 4>of him wanted to. Fight And i've been in this,

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 4>situation this exact, situation you, know especially you, know BECAUSE

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 4>i told you, before you, know WHEN i was bullying

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 4>in high, SCHOOL i had to use with because that's

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.159
<v Speaker 4>ALL i, had you, KNOW i had to make a

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.679
<v Speaker 4>motherfucker feel real, stupid and they left me. ALONE i

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:28.919
<v Speaker 4>never got to the point where had to beat up

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.440
<v Speaker 4>two people at the same. Time but you could tell

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 4>that he was struggling with, that and then he's wrestling

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 4>with the fact, that LIKE i want to fucking hurt.

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 4>YOU i want to hurt. You and then it just it.

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Clicked it was just funny that the parents of that

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 1>kid became victims of the kid became a victim.

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Away, oh we're gonna have to sue, now and blah blah.

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Blah he had been with me this whole, time and

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 1>nobody came to my, rescue nobody ateing.

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Me and now THAT i do, this Now i'm the

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 2>bad guy.

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 3>And you gotta look at.

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 4>It also is he probably would have left it alone

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 4>if that girl wasn't. There he might have actually walked.

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 4>AWAY i, MEAN i, know the other dude kind of

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 4>like stopped him or. Whatever but that girl being, THERE

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 4>i think added to. It so there was like a

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 4>parallel between him and his. Dad when his dad was

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:17.920
<v Speaker 4>in the, diner it was that girl being there and

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 4>almost getting killed that made him fucking pop. Off in this,

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.719
<v Speaker 4>situation it's that girl being there looking, on being like

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 4>leg that.

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Made him pop. Off so, YEAH i think.

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.360
<v Speaker 4>This is a pretty interesting way that they're showing how

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 4>the violence impacts other people that weren't even directly involved in.

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 1>It, yes speaking of viot, it there's a confrontation at the.

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 1>House fogerty his man pull up On tom outside of the.

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>House tom goes. Back you left.

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Out SO i hate to be a, rod but you

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 4>actually did leave out a pretty important, part this part

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 4>where he fought the. Kids it follows what it follows

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 4>the dad slapping the ship out of the. Violence so

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:06.239
<v Speaker 4>he went to. School he was.

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Mad, remember AM i getting that? Backwards are you?

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 2>No, no he slapped the kid. After never, mind but

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 2>it's your point.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Still it happened after because that's why he ran, off

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:25.200
<v Speaker 1>and that's how they were able.

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 3>To BUT i thought.

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 4>Something happened before because he was mad when he went to.

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 4>SCHOOL i thought something happened before they went to.

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:35.920
<v Speaker 3>SCHOOL i don't think he was. MAD i think he

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:37.400
<v Speaker 3>was actually proud that his dad.

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Was a hero And, ship yeah they all were at this.

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Point it's, possible BUT i don't.

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Remember. Okay, yeah it was just like when he came

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>back and he was he was Talking ship to his

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>dad because he was talking his dad because his dad

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 1>because he was, like, Well, ship you just did this

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>whole ship like at the.

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.959
<v Speaker 3>Diner oh, yeah because the dad said you, know what

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 3>are you doing or? Whatever and he was, like well

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 3>it was you shot him or? Something?

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Brother, yeah he. Did he was like bro at that

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>point he was Like, John.

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah he's definitely. Yeah.

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Ship so we get to the confrontation Johns.

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Christy what's his name Is? Tom?

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>John?

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 3>JOHN i think It's John cusack is an. ACTOR i,

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 3>KNOW i.

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Know that's why when he said, It.

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 3>Joey, joey Joe joey was. Crazy so.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Now remember the other sets part ye get to. That

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>let's go to the. Confrontation let's go to the conversation

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>at the house. First.

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Fan so there's a confrontation at the house and it

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>was Violid mike.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Hitting.

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>It now they Confront tom outside of his house and

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 1>he shows no mercy ruthlessly kills both of. Them but

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the wife notices. This this goes to your, point, Right it's,

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>like does everybody know that he's in on like he

0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Was Joey cusack or are they surprised to see this

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>side of? Him she looked fairly. Surprised did you think?

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Differently by this POINT i did, Think, okay sh she don't,

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 3>know yeah or. Whatever and then she started asking, him so, okay,

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 3>damn so he this is just him or?

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Whatever so he pooling. Everybody, yeah my, boy what did you, Think?

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>MIKE i never thought that she.

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Knew never thought she.

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 3>KNEW i never thought she.

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 4>Knew and when when they pulled, UP i think she

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 4>took off out the room because he said go to your,

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 4>son right or, no go to your daughter to so

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 4>he sent her in the.

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 3>House SO i didn't think she.

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Knew like a woman get in the kitchen made me.

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 6>Sad WHEN i get, THAT i got a hand, said

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 6>After i'm. Done that was really that was so like

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 6>skip that.

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 3>PART i was gonna be a rod on that part.

0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Too what are you talking?

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 3>About when he? Ran it?

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Was, yeah it was.

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 4>Relevant it was relevant because this is the only part

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 4>of the whole movie that hate.

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 7>Crippled how does dude is stabbing the foot? Yet but

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 7>how that dude stabbing the?

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Foot how he run the whole way? HOME i was,

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 3>LIKE i don't like. That that's.

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Stupid it didn't make it because he got home, quick

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 2>he did the.

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Work he walked because remember at one, point because when

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>he walked, out because the cars pulled, up he was

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>looking out the window and was, like okay she Was

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>she was, like it's more, Reported LIKE i don't look

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>like reported and then because remember earlier he said something

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>about the truck was out of. Gas can you drop

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>me off of? Something and then the second time he

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>they we saw him walking out and it took a

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>right to.

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 4>Walk the word that's crazy that he walked all the

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 4>way to work after getting that for the, foot and

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 4>nobody was.

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Like i'll give you a, rock, right, yea it was

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the hometown, hero, right but but, yeah the ISSUE i

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>had he was right for choking a little.

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Bit i'm saying this, right BUT i understand made my,

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 3>walk you.

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Know but, uh but the WHAT i WHAT i thought

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>was gonna happen didn't. Happen and the son did, it

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>not the wife BECAUSE i remember that Part rod And

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 1>mike when he was, like go get, go get the.

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Shotty So i'm, like when when they were out he

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>was basically being confronted by them and being taken. AWAY

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 1>i thought she was gonna come out with the shotgun

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and shoot on and she in the corner hot.

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 4>Again violence affecting that kid, Differently it didn't really affect

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 4>her like.

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>That AND i would AND i will also, think, WELL

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>i would be kind of surprised because remember the when

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>she took the girl out for shoes And foggerty was

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>outside waiting on him and she found the restraining order or.

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>WHATEVER i thought she she did. It, yeah she actually did,

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it SO i thought at that, point you, know the

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>threat was elevated of who these guys.

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Were so she would have been a little bit more on.

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Edge but she.

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Was she she was. Not she had a hit up,

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>her but she took them.

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Out guy.

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 3>Is, crazy his fucking note and that's a real. Move

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't. Matter but like you, know one of my

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 3>mom's boyfriends and taught me that move.

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 2>And get.

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Because it'll kill.

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>You.

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah it supposed to do it once and that

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 4>will take them motherfucker. Out one of my best friends

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 4>in high school was a black belt in tenth grade

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 4>and he told me about that. Here you, know he

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 4>was always, like, man fight back WHEN i was Getting

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 4>bullieduck's biggest rod and smallest. Feet i'm not fighting. Nobody

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 4>but he was, like all you gotta do is hit

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 4>him like that one. Time but then he told me

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 4>later that if you do it, right that will kill.

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Him So i'm in tenth, Grade i'm, Like i'm not killing.

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Anybody, yeah my father in law talk.

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 3>And the kidney punch might take you down and take you.

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Down you hit some, money, right the, right, dude that's probably.

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Why but think about you get, hit you can't even

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 3>keep the.

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Team like everything was, gone and he did a lot of,

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>this he was he was catch a lot off the wind.

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Pipe from now we get one of the pillars of

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the whole, movie As mike says violent, sex saying on

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the stairs eating And tom have sex that's aggressive and.

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Painful and the question here is was this because she

0:33:55.920 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>was turned on by what she's seen whoever Wants oh

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you have wrapped that? Up this ship threw me the

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.399
<v Speaker 1>fuck off Because i'm, like what the? Hell because when

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>he snatched her, up because she in front of her

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>like oh your ass really is Motherfucking joey and was

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.399
<v Speaker 1>talking ship to, him and when he snatched her up

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 1>and choked, her BRO i was, Like, yo this is.

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Crazy AND i was hoping he really didn't like commit to,

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 1>yeah but this you, know, so but you KNOW i,

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>was you, KNOW i guess SO i don't know me, Here,

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>WELL i guess that did? It, Yeah like that's WHAT

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>i took off on this. PART i don't know if

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 1>it turned her on or not she's.

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 3>SCARED i think she was.

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 4>SCARED i think that in this moment they were trying

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 4>to show that that perfect BALANCE i was talking about

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 4>earlier is completely. Gone now violence has entered the relationship

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 4>and it's. Off the FIRST i watched this, MOVIE i

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 4>thought this scene was stupid as. FUCK i was, like

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.280
<v Speaker 4>that was what the fuck they fucked on the? Stairs

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 4>this doesn't make any. Sense, like but after watching it

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 4>a few, TIMES i think that they were definitely trying

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 4>to imply that things are different now that violence has been.

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 4>Introduced whether or not she was actually turned, ON i don't.

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 3>KNOW i don't.

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah because you, know that could be a, trope

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>stereotype or whatever that is being said out, there not

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>saying that it does not. Exist you, know it seems

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 1>like it's, Possible rod because my thing was, like, MAN

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 1>i hope like This joey guy is showing up, now

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>because that's what she. SAID i Saw. JOEY i Saw,

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>joey and Now joey doesn't. CARE i, guess going back

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to What mike was saying about this perfectly semiotic, relationship

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Now i'm the dominant figure in this. Relationship therefore you

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>will do my, bidding and she conceded out of, fear

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 1>because remember when she got, up what does she?

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Do she hit it stormed.

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:04.360
<v Speaker 4>Off SO i always took that they need this open,

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 4>ended like you're not sure is it a matter of

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 4>she's turned on or is it a matter of she

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 4>felt like she was about to get, raped and she

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 4>went ahead and conceded so she would not be. Raped

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 4>and then when it was, done he got his nut.

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 4>Off she bowed and then stormed up the. Stairs i'm

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 4>still unclear on this, scene BUT i don't know if

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 4>it's as simple as, OH i saw my man be.

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 3>VIOLENT i. DON'T i don't know if that's what it.

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 3>IS i really. DON'T i. DON'T i wasn't confusing to.

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Y'all y' said.

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 5>It was like you know because YOU i, mean you

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 5>hear and see like women wanted to be choked and

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 5>stuff like, that not in a in a violent in

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 5>an absolute violent way like, oh but but you've heard

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 5>people women say, like, yo don't don't show me to

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 5>WHERE i can't. Breathe just show me to WHERE i

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:52.800
<v Speaker 5>feel LIKE i can't.

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Breathe the freak. Couch go.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 5>Ahead i'm just saying to the table y'all heard this.

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Ship i'm not saying you. Heard don't.

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 5>You know about all that you know about blood, playing

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 5>you know about flood.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 4>Playing everything don't.

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 3>All right brand new?

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 5>Now but, nah but, yeah like that's that's the. Thing

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 5>she seemed like she was genuinely turned. On BUT i

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 5>can see you guys perspective as. Well and the only thing,

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 5>too that made me think that because she already tried

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:32.919
<v Speaker 5>some freaking ship.

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Earlier she was just like so it seemed like she

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 3>was into like some kinky. Ship you know What i'm.

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 5>SAYING i think they applied, it like with her wanting

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 5>to start the kinky ship, before and she's, like this

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 5>is just some mother kinky ship that she.

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Was what was? Kinky you thought was?

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 5>Kinky just just her dressing up as a.

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 4>Rock y'all laughing to her didn't catch the right.

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Boy he would have just, Clear i'm not doing.

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>It.

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 5>Again but she revealed that ship earlier, though she was

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:22.399
<v Speaker 5>into some ship and she wanted and, yeah the circumstances

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 5>were fucked, up you know What i'm. Saying, LIKE i

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 5>think under other circumstances he wouldn't have got the slap

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 5>at the.

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 3>End BUT i think she still would have been into,

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 3>it you know What i'm, Saying.

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 5>BUT i think because of the lying and her not,

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 5>knowing that's where the slap came.

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 1>From in a role playing, SITUATION i could see what

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you're saying.

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 4>Exactly exactly but. Not but they weren't role, playing and

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 4>the very next scene is Not he's like this my

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 4>ass taking it and if you don't want to give

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 4>it to, Me i'm really gonna take.

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 3>It that's HOW i took that.

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 4>Scene because right after that.

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 3>They showed her in the.

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 4>Bed she's crying and she has a huge gash on her,

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 4>Back SO i think that down was from the.

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Stairs SO i think it's like that.

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 5>That the sex scene here was, violent it was, awkward

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 5>and it was completely.

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 4>Imbalanced she was not in control at.

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 2>All from the previous scene what you're, saying it was

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:12.839
<v Speaker 2>completely it Was it was.

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 4>Balanced it was almost like A Yin yang because they turned.

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 4>Sideways it was, mutual which for most people that Do fix,

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 4>nine it's not sideways ones on.

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Top they turned. Sideways Yin. Yang you told, Me.

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying If i'm reading too much, fun but

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 4>that's always.

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 3>WHAT i took from this.

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 4>Movie so post it was also, missionary which is typically

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 4>viewed as the man being in.

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Charge that's, true so.

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Typical so from here we have the reveal man truth is.

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Revealed tom, like you know what FUCK i? Am joey

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.959
<v Speaker 1>cusack uh former killer who Ran philly from years. Ago

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 1>my question to you, guys as he reveals, it he

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>don't get work. Up there is no umph to. It

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it's just, like, okay it is what it. Is was

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 1>that from him being guilty from? It or was he

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 1>detached from that life he?

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Buried he said he buried, It but did you see any?

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Guilt could you notice any guilt with how he? Delivered,

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>yes this is WHO i.

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Am it didn't seem like to, me it didn't seem

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>like he was sorry About he didn't care when he revealed.

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>It he was to who he was well at this

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>point he was. Caught, well so it was just like all, right,

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>fine you got. Me but he really didn't. Care it's

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 1>like it is what it is when the reveal came,

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:33.840
<v Speaker 1>out not when he was talking To i'm.

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 4>Honestly trying to remember when the reveal came. Out who

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 4>was he talking to when he was finally like all.

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:41.879
<v Speaker 3>Right, Cool so you went back a little.

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 2>BIT i went back a little, bit was talking to.

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 5>Five he, SAID i should have killed you back In,

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 5>Philly jersey or wherever he.

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:48.399
<v Speaker 3>Was and that was in the front.

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 4>Yard, okay that's WHY i Was, Okay i'm not. Trying

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 4>remember when the sex. HAPPENED i thought the sex. Happened

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 4>it was after.

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.280
<v Speaker 2>That it was after that he JUST i just skipped.

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Around so he killed them and then they had. Sex

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 4>when did he have to go with?

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Buddy? When, GOD i guess that was When.

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 2>RICHIE i Think richie kind of know, him And richie

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that was on the car took in front of mab.

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 3>Boss, Right but what made him leave What I'm richie called,

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 3>him that's, Right.

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.479
<v Speaker 4>Richie called him on the. Phone that's. Right, okay, now.

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah but but the cat was out of the back

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>at this. Point he didn't you have the reveal was,

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>yeah the cop was even, like, yeah this ain't add.

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Enough but but even when when this motherfucker is, heartless you,

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 1>know because when he when he was talking when you,

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 1>know the wife and and the mom, wife when.

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 2>He was having an argument with his wife about you,

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 2>know who are?

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 1>You what are you? Like who is this? Person? Blah blah,

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 1>blah and he, said Why tom stalls this motherfucker because it's.

0:41:54.400 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 3>AVAILABLE i was available. Too, YEAH i felter on that

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 3>that was a good.

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 1>Line that was a good. Line but, WELL i mean,

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:08.760
<v Speaker 1>yeah but that show like it kind of showed. That, yeah,

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>yeah because it was. Available there's no real reason WHY

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:11.879
<v Speaker 1>i took.

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 3>It and it was just LIKE i thought it was.

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 5>GONE i THOUGHT i thought he was gone by the

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:18.719
<v Speaker 5>way he was talking About john like he was skit.

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 1>So and he kind of went back and forth to

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:24.320
<v Speaker 1>yeah about Between john and And joey and.

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Said i'm Sorry. Joey. Yeah it was kind of a

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 3>stupid ass.

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Question, though what Why tom starts if you if you

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.239
<v Speaker 4>are picking, up Then i'm a. Gangster why you ask

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 4>me WHY i picked this? Name what difference he?

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 2>MADE i didn't really?

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Name is just our, Kids and that's. Funny my whole

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 3>question was what what triggered?

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>It it? Was it?

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Was it? Was it was it.

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 5>The dinner when he had to fight at the dinner

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 5>That John joey coosad to come.

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>OUT i think it was a dude coming to look for. Him, now,

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i think it was. That, YEAH i think his.

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Family, YEAH i started looking following my.

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Family she brought it out on their.

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Case Bro joey back now, then DON'T i thought it was?

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 5>Her it was, like it's all her. Fault it's all her.

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 5>Fault this ain't the mobster's. Fault this is her. Fault

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 5>she came in. There tell every since then he was

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 5>he Was Joey. Cusack after that he was Joe WHICH

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:30.280
<v Speaker 5>i have to say about the, trip.

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Y'all, y'all y'all third, eye that's what you gotta be.

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Doing this sixty nine.

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Joy man out of, that out of just in, time

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 3>this time for the.

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Dynasty what did y'all think about the trip that he

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>took To philadelphia to confront the mob?

0:43:56.040 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 3>BOSS i, like all of this brother was. Crazy, yeah

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 3>but what is that also?

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 4>Mean because he's wearing a, cross but they rarely ever

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:08.319
<v Speaker 4>focus on.

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 3>It so maybe Maybe jesus brought, it you, know took

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 3>him no for, Real maybe.

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 4>He Found jesus and Found god and found religion and

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 4>that got him away From. Cusack but then these motherfuckers

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 4>them brought them back.

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Out yeah he. Was he wasn't even trying to entertain

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>because that guy was, like, yeah just finish your. Beer

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>and we can. Go he was, like, man take this,

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 1>ship bro, right you, know let's. Go it was it

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 1>was kind of, honestly everything was dark and. Creepy i'm, like,

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>bro do you even like nowhere you're? Going? Like are

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you in your peas and? Cools, like what's really? HAPPY

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>i didn't give a at that.

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Point, YEAH i think he was just like seeing. Red

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 2>at that, point he was seeing.

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 3>RED i didn't see. That he seemed like he was

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 3>trying to be.

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Nice, yeah with, RIGHT i thought he was trying to

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>get out of there straight and.

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 2>VENGEANCE i thought he was trying to Get richie to back.

0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Down, no he was.

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Reach he threatened this family came to the WAY i.

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>WAS i was laying.

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 3>Low you know WHO i.

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Am you know What i'm capable of period kill you today.

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 4>Living this, life or at LEAST i, mean we can

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 4>guess that the that the sun was, sixteen.

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right fifteen high.

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 4>School we could guess he's been with his wife at

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 4>least a good seventeen eighteen, years so he's not been

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 4>cusack for at least eighteen.

0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Years that's what he.

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Said he, said you've been this other guy for as

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 3>long as you've Been John Joe. Joey, oh, yeah he

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 3>did say. That he did say. That that was actually an interesting.

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 5>Line he, said you've been this new guy for just

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 5>as long as you were the other, guy so we

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 5>can we.

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Can he's lived half his life as this new. Person

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 4>he clearly loves this. Family this dude shows, up this

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 4>guy haven't spoken to in eighteen, years shows up and

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 4>threatens my.

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Family Or i'm killing.

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 4>You, YES i don't think he was ever going to

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 4>go in there and be, like hey, man can we

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 4>just be?

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Cool, nah he's just sleeping.

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 3>Alone, right you gotta.

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Die because you gotta think he can't even if you

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>go up, there you convince him to leave you, alone

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't know how long it lays in his mind

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in two years and come back looking for. You so

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 1>why why did He why didn't he try to kill

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 1>him until he tried to kill.

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Him maybe he didn't know where he was until.

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 4>That maybe that's why he gave in and let that

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 4>dude drive him up, there because he didn't know where

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 4>how to get to.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Him What i'm, saying by the time he got to the,

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 3>house he seemed like he was in some.

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Peace my, Brothers, yeah that's HOW i kind of. Ready

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>it was, like what CAN i do to resolve? This

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>to get you.

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 3>To you know.

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 1>SEE i think that was That tom stole. SHIP i

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 1>feel like he was playing. POSSIBLE i do.

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 3>TOO i think that was like a.

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Watch it again IF i could pick up on. IT

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:37.919
<v Speaker 1>i feel like he came In tom Rich they're saying

0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>he came. In, wait, no they're saying they came. In

0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 1>he came in As, joey but he was pretending.

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 3>That that's WHAT i.

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 4>THINK i think he went in there and he played

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.439
<v Speaker 4>that to see what he would, say just to see

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 4>what and and to, like you, know take him off his,

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 4>guard make everything seem. Calm BUT i Think tom went

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 4>in there for that action Or Tom.

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Joey And richie mocked him for, it refuses to forgive

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and ordered this man to kill.

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Him would you have to take?

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 5>SO i thought that's when he was just, Like, okay

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 5>you're trying to kill, Me i'm definitely gonna kill.

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 3>You.

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Maybe, Well i'm With, richie like how you fucked this?

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 2>UP i didn't like.

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 3>This he could have been done way.

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Better it was just too sloppy and the stunt coordinating

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:20.279
<v Speaker 4>was bad and it was just like all, right, man

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 4>this doesn't even really make a lot of.

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.240
<v Speaker 3>Sense and your brother is that bad of a. Shot

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 3>he was as close to to to him As rod

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:27.759
<v Speaker 3>is to.

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 4>Me, yeah and you missed my, boss and you're my.

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 4>Boss you've used this gun.

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 3>BEFORE i would assume you.

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:37.320
<v Speaker 4>Missed come, on. Bro, yeah they could have done this

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:38.879
<v Speaker 4>scene a little bit. Better it didn't hurt the, movie

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:39.359
<v Speaker 4>but it wasn't.

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Awesome, yeah that was that was part of, This like

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 1>he didn't really seem like he was this because they

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>were they were talking him up like he was that,

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>guy he was that and it was like the action

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't really uh you, know portray that.

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 4>Except when he stopping that dude next.

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Man yeah it's.

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Hard, yeah but he was moving all slow and ship.

0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Exactly that's WHAT i talking, About like the sun. Board

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 3>he was not very, like.

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 4>How why are you beating ass that?

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Slow?

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:08.359
<v Speaker 3>God damn.

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:13.840
<v Speaker 2>All, right beat ass? Slow then we get To tom

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 2>beat his. Ass, YEAH i don't, know it's A kiki show.

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 3>ALREADY i don't know What spike over The Let.

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>It go did weird the way he kissed him on his.

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Cheeckens oh, yeah it. Was it was sloppy, Dude it's

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 1>not like it was a wet kiss the way you.

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Can't it must be his.

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 5>Brother it was just the way he, kissed kiss your

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 5>brother like that.

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:45.279
<v Speaker 4>The white people do, though like gangster mom what watch you?

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:47.319
<v Speaker 3>Know they all do that. Weird, yeah but it was

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 3>just the way he did it though it was. Kissed,

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 3>yeah it a little, like, MAN i missed, you bro,

0:48:56.120 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 3>right he had some weird ye.

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Fast one to the last half of the movie Rich Over.

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Ahead he Kills richie with his bare hands and just

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>washed itself off in the, Backyard, like didn't?

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Happen was it?

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:19.839
<v Speaker 4>Surprising this movie could have used a little bit more

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 4>time because him just like him fiddling with the, keys

0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 4>and he looked up and his.

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Bow shot in the. Head oh, yeah.

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you. Know and did y'all see his face? Change

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:36.399
<v Speaker 1>So richie's face changed he got shot in the. Head,

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>yeah and what like when he got, shot his mouth was,

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:41.600
<v Speaker 1>open and then when they cut back to, it his

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 1>mouth was.

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Closing his head was in a different. Spot damn well he.

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Fell he was already, dead, Bro your head ain't supposed

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to move, over, like BECAUSE i rewound it.

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.760
<v Speaker 5>BACK i was, like, wait did they get that shot

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:58.240
<v Speaker 5>different DID i didn't catch, that BUT i believe.

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Should the movie ends By tom returning, home sitting

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:05.440
<v Speaker 1>at the dinner. Table everybody sits in. Silence you look At,

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 1>eating she has some uncertainty in her. Face, wait what's

0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 1>the wife's? Name said? Eating? Eat, yeah and then you

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 1>look At, jack who is cautious to say the least.

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Because he remembers.

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 1>That so so they left really. Ambiguous and as a,

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:28.959
<v Speaker 1>VIEWER i want y'all and we can wrap the y'all

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>think that they go back to just being a regular

0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 1>family or is it something that for the future that

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 1>they going to.

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:34.960
<v Speaker 3>Be that's what they imply to.

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 5>Me that what they accepting him as the father of

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 5>the family by offering him the meat loaf and the

0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 5>food and all that she fixed his dinner.

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Plate and, YEAH i think there's, like, okay we you,

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:49.640
<v Speaker 3>know it's almost like is it. Over they was looking

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 3>at him like is it? Done is it?

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 5>Over and, yeah they accepting him back and he was

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 5>emotional about.

0:50:55.560 --> 0:51:00.360
<v Speaker 1>It, yeah and with the new terms of, this but

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 1>the dynamic will. BE i thought it was interesting that

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:06.839
<v Speaker 1>it was the little, girl the one that didn't have

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:10.279
<v Speaker 1>anything happened to, her you, know did you that one

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>line she, Had oh my, god something about the.

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 3>SHOES i, thought your, gun take me get some, shoes

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 3>my meat.

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Somethody it was pretty bad, anyway but she was the

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:24.360
<v Speaker 1>one that made when it got the. Plate but she

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 1>was also the one that didn't have any violence enacted upon.

0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Her so for, her she don't even look at the.

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Dad that's still that the same.

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Thing, yeah that damn.

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Simple what you think about?

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 2>It shut?

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Up so, ANYWAY i only watched. It it was late.

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Too but, anyway but this WI i like talking through.

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Ship but, anyway.

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 3>The sun.

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Slowly Hesitant Harry.

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 5>Catt took the meat loaf and put it over that

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 5>way you can get, it you.

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Know he gave him the whole meat loaf, ride.

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:02.799
<v Speaker 3>Not a piece of. It what you, want, bro you

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 3>want my.

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Peace the wife was just.

0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:12.920
<v Speaker 3>She, was who AM i please let.

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:17.840
<v Speaker 5>This be to please let just bet.

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 3>With? That with, That joey did? Okay you know at the.

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Before we, wrap one question THAT i have Was tom

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 1>protecting his family or did he drag him into his?

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Past he protected? HIM i, thing, yeah, yeah, YEAH i

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 3>MEAN i kept the.

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:42.799
<v Speaker 5>Innocence it's like keeping the innocence of a child, like,

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 5>right you don't, like it's the same thing he was

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 5>trying to do with his.

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Family they got they involuntarily got wrapped up in that

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 1>world and they just didn't know how to process, it you.

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Know so the mom, NATURALLY i think all them kind

0:52:56.480 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of had naturally emotional, reactions especially the wife because was,

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:00.760
<v Speaker 1>like who.

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 2>The fucking my? Marriage you, know and even the sun was.

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Reacting he was a bit of an asshole because when

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>he come, fronted he was talking, about, oh what happened

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:10.840
<v Speaker 1>IF i say, this, WELL i get whacked when.

0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 5>WHAT i did, right you, Know i'm that you know

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:20.360
<v Speaker 5>WHAT i got.

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 4>These you want to experience? This but asking mama about.

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:32.400
<v Speaker 5>Any final, thoughts there's definitely a story of your past

0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:36.840
<v Speaker 5>coming back to haunt you type of. Situation so, now

0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:40.919
<v Speaker 5>LIKE i, said, MAN i still stand BY i think

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 5>it was a little basic in my, opinion but you,

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 5>know but good at the same. TIME i don't mean

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 5>basic as this basic ass movie was boring as. FUCK

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 5>i don't mean it like. That it's just, like you,

0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 5>KNOW i didn't have to wreck my brain to try

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 5>to figure out.

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Anything it looks the story seemed Pretty.

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seems service LEVEL i think talking it out

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you can get you, know layers d probably IF i

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 1>watched it, again MAYBE i. Could and now THAT i

0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 1>know the, STORY i could start to see like the intricacies.

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.719
<v Speaker 1>There because WHEN i saw it was it Was David

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<v Speaker 1>rodenberg that did, IT i was, like, well, DAMN i

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<v Speaker 1>normally know him to do like more layer in, in you,

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<v Speaker 1>know stuff like. That SO i was surprised that that

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<v Speaker 1>was the reaction to feeling THAT i had off the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch but BUT i. AIN'T i ain't gonna even lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all i'm not gonna watch it, again but BUT i

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<v Speaker 1>do like BECAUSE i don't need to watch it. Again

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<v Speaker 1>but just like the the violence and how violence we get,

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<v Speaker 1>violence talking that THROUGH i think is is. Dope so so,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah last, Words, mike.

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<v Speaker 4>No, Man i'm at least glad that everybody liked it

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<v Speaker 4>for the most, part that nobody hated.

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<v Speaker 3>It But i've been teasing.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all but, yes the very first TIME i watched, IT

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<v Speaker 4>i agreed with Rodding ken one hundred. PERCENT i was,

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<v Speaker 4>like that ship was a simple ass. Move But i'm

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<v Speaker 4>meant it more than. NEGATIVE i was just, like all,

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<v Speaker 4>right nothing. Happened it didn't really click until a buddy

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<v Speaker 4>of mine was, like, no it's croning.

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<v Speaker 3>Bird you need to go back and watch it.

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<v Speaker 4>AGAIN i was like the movie where they fucked on

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<v Speaker 4>the stairs and he ran home with one.

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<v Speaker 3>Foot that's. Stupid what are you talking?

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<v Speaker 4>About but WHEN i sat down and stopped being, PAYHEADED

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<v Speaker 4>i was, like, OH i see, Now, OKAY i get.

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<v Speaker 4>It so now it's a good it's a good, movie

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<v Speaker 4>clean hour and a.

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<v Speaker 3>Half, yes, yeah they.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't oh that was the best part for. Me they.

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<v Speaker 2>DIDN'T i was just it was, Late, mike it was

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<v Speaker 2>like ten AND i you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, anyway all right. Man that was our review for

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<v Speaker 1>the anniversary of the MOVIE A history Of, violence which

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<v Speaker 1>came out in two thousand and. Five to twenty, anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>this has been The france per second. Podcast we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Out what did y'all watch?

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<v Speaker 3>It