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Speaker 1: The France per Second Podcast. Welcome to the France for

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Speaker 1: a Second podcast. I am Spike Lou and today we

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Speaker 1: are reviewing History of Violence. Here today with me, I

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Speaker 1: have Kim Hello. Next to Kin, I have Rode, and

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Speaker 1: across from Rod, I have Mike Yo. All right, So

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Speaker 1: we're doing the History of Violence today, guys. History of

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Speaker 1: Violence is a two thousand and five film directed by

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Speaker 1: David Kronberg. Layer film works in both lean thriller and

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Speaker 1: deep psychological stuff. So the History of Violence is a

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Speaker 1: anniversary film that we're doing. It dropped in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and five and this is the twenty year anniversary of it.

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Speaker 1: I will go around the room here. What did you

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Speaker 1: think about the movie when it came out and what

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Speaker 1: did you think about the rewatch?

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Speaker 2: Mike A one of both.

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Speaker 3: I love this movie.

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Speaker 4: I haven't watched it a bunch of times, but nah,

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Speaker 4: it's I think it's great.

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Speaker 5: Yep, Roy, I will say you, yeah, I thought I

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Speaker 5: saw this movie all the way through, but apparently I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking it was a different movie.

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Speaker 5: I can't remember what movie that is, but I thought

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Speaker 5: it was a different movie. So I remember some scenes

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Speaker 5: but I didn't remember. But when I started watching, I

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Speaker 5: was like, wait, I don't think I remember this watching

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Speaker 5: this whole thing. But no, I thought it was good.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was good, Ken, What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I was bored out of my mouth.

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Speaker 3: Both times.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is my first time watching it, and I

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Speaker 1: was trying to understand the hype.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I get I think the story's fine.

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Speaker 1: You know, I guess for two thousand and five, you know,

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Speaker 1: mob killer or whatever and some self imposed witness protection.

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Speaker 2: But it was just and I don't know, it was

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Speaker 3: It did feel pretty basic.

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Speaker 5: I can't say I thought it was I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it did.

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Speaker 5: It did like a pretty basic story, but I thought

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Speaker 5: it was still done pretty well though, Like why you

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Speaker 5: look like that?

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Speaker 2: No, I'll say, so you saying that you was born

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Speaker 2: out of your mind?

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Speaker 3: Kid?

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Speaker 2: Did you know the premise of it before you?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about the movie, Spike, I went

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Speaker 1: in blind. So did you think what did you suspect

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Speaker 1: there being something going on as far as him living

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Speaker 2: Only only.

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Speaker 1: When he killed the other two people. That's because he

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Speaker 1: did that shit too easy. But prior to that, not

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Speaker 1: like it, like, I don't know, I'm definitely going to

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Speaker 1: go into it, but I know that when it started

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Speaker 1: off like the way they set it up in the beginning, Bro,

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Speaker 1: I had to rewind that ship back. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh shit, that's what happened because I did not see

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Speaker 1: that ship come when he went back into the hotel

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Speaker 1: and all the motherfuckers were dead, because they made it

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Speaker 3: What I think that, bro, that ship was that shit

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Speaker 3: was dope.

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Speaker 5: What do you think was happening, Bron? I thought, that's

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Speaker 5: exactly what was happening. Yeah, what did the man? He's like,

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Speaker 3: Or something like that. It was something about the way

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Speaker 5: He killed him or whatever. Yeah, when that one when

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Speaker 1: That, he thought that originally like just being sketchy as fu.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they looked like gangsters watched.

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Speaker 2: I didn't from there.

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Speaker 1: Well, what we're talking about is it open the scene

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Speaker 3: And you said that I was gonna say, I just.

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Speaker 5: Love the way they shot this with the pants and

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Speaker 5: then the zooms out and they kept they kept the

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Speaker 3: And I thought that was a really really dope way

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Speaker 1: Then the thought about in a particular scene throughout the movie,

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Speaker 5: Particular scene, they did it a couple of times, but

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Speaker 5: I definitely noticed to hear what They pulled away from

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Speaker 5: It's just one shot and they panting it over and

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Speaker 2: The way they executed it was it was it was creepy.

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Speaker 3: Creepy. Yeah, yeah, it made That's what I think it was.

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Speaker 3: It did make it feel creepy.

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Speaker 1: Why do y'all think that they started with violence before

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Speaker 1: we got to the even into who any of the

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Speaker 1: characters were, Mike, since you looking.

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Speaker 2: Like that.

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Speaker 4: This goes to y'all hurting my soul saying this is

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Speaker 4: a simple ass story. Actually, you know what, let them answer.

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Speaker 4: They don't try to steal my hands.

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Speaker 1: kN being the first one, first time, rod Rod, why

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm trying to get somebody to take the baby?

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Speaker 3: Come on?

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Speaker 1: So my question, Ron, why do you think they started

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Speaker 1: with their violence and all the descriptions stuff you said

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Speaker 1: before we even meet any characters.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, just to kind of set up Yeah, like,

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Speaker 5: what what are we dealing with? They have to set

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Speaker 5: that up somewhere even even I think what really set

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Speaker 5: that off was them killing the little girl or whatnot,

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Speaker 5: them killing you know, the staff and all that, because

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Speaker 5: they are gangsters and they trying to bounce from town

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Speaker 3: That was that was I felt like that was pretty basic.

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Speaker 5: But when they but when they did, when he shot

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Speaker 5: the little girl, I was like, whoa, Okay, this is another.

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Speaker 3: Level of killer, another level of what's the word I'm

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Speaker 3: looking for with somebody? Just don't psychopaths. I don't even

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Speaker 3: say psychopaths something like that, but I don't know. It

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Speaker 1: So we really killed a little girl?

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, what you thought he missed.

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Speaker 2: Real, we didn't see we didn't see the body.

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Speaker 5: We heard the body, he said, and the other the

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Speaker 3: So she cuts to the other girl screaming from a

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that implies that that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: For a second, I thought, uh uh, that little girl

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Speaker 1: Tom Stalls was one of the other guys.

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Speaker 3: Girl didn't look nothing like that little girl was like

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Speaker 1: It's not something's wrong with her, that something's wrong with Mike.

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Speaker 1: What's your answer? My answer is this movie.

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Speaker 4: If you just look at the damn title of the film,

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Speaker 4: this is not a simple story, y'all.

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Speaker 3: It's really not a wait.

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Speaker 1: Hold on time. I'm sorry, what do you think about

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Speaker 1: this damn movie? Because you never said, oh you didn't.

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Speaker 3: I did not.

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Speaker 2: I was hosting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I liked it when it first came out,

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Speaker 1: but I was bored, like he in the second time around,

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Speaker 1: when she I feel like, once you know, it's sort

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Speaker 1: of like the usual suspects in the sense of once

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Speaker 1: I know what's going on. I kind of thought about

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Speaker 1: kind of thought maybe it could be this, maybe it

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Speaker 1: On the second watch, it didn't resonate as much for me.

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Speaker 1: But I loved it the first time it came up,

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Speaker 1: and when I first watched it.

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Speaker 4: I guess I feel that this is not a movie

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Speaker 4: maybe a handful of times, but every time it's enjoyable.

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Speaker 3: But I think the fact that it's called a.

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Speaker 4: History of Violence and we're watching the violence and how

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Speaker 4: it affects different people throughout the film, and we'll get

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Speaker 4: to some of the stuff later, some of the symbolism.

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Speaker 4: I really disagree that this is a simple movie. I

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Speaker 4: think it's a pretty in depth movie. And Cronenberg did

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Speaker 4: such an interesting thing with how he broke this down

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Speaker 4: and how he made violence effect everybody differently. But starting

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Speaker 4: off with violence, it makes sense because that is kind

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought I thought it kicked off pretty

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Speaker 2: That makes sense, So you say, meet other people.

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Speaker 1: From there, we go to the small town life living

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Speaker 1: It seems like the ideal suburban family. Did you suspect

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Speaker 1: anything else from this, right?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 5: I knew it had to be something at some point,

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Speaker 5: but I mean, they don't. They don't set it up

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Speaker 5: for you to just take it their face value. That's

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Speaker 5: what it is. And we we are to assume that

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Speaker 5: gonna play out. So then they also introduced, like you said,

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Speaker 5: don't I don't know if that led down a certain path,

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Speaker 5: but that did make me what I what I want

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Speaker 5: to what I want to bring up a little later.

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Speaker 5: I want about the bullying situation, because I did think

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Speaker 5: it's it's the whole whole family playing stupid. Like at

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Speaker 5: some point, I'm like all these motherfucker's violent and we

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Speaker 5: just you know, everybody's just playing nice.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it did make me think that for a while.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we've seen it was a little bit

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Speaker 2: more than meets the eye.

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Speaker 1: When they were doing a role play with the chi

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Speaker 1: leader of the dad, I mean, my mom was acting

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Speaker 1: like a chileader.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just felt like they weren't as innocent as

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Speaker 1: they seem. I wasn't judging them. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: king chaming at all. I'm not shaming. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: it seems like it was more than meats toy. Based

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Speaker 1: off that, I actually thought that they seemed vanilla. They

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Speaker 1: seemed like missionary sex people, like, not like role play people.

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, So I actually thought that was

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Speaker 1: dope because I thought, for whatever reason, that they were

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Speaker 1: or maybe they something like that, and that's why they

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Speaker 1: did that, and I was like, damn, that shit was

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Speaker 3: Will you have some move? That's what we moved.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about the whole did you have some move? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I thought that was a really really, really really important part.

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Speaker 4: They were they were defining the family and when you

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Speaker 1: And I thought that I didn't say it, don't don't

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Speaker 3: Imbliged you think they freeze.

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Speaker 4: But I think that this I thought this was a

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Speaker 4: them ending that sex scene with sixty nine.

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Speaker 2: No, what would you feel?

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Speaker 3: I was like, seen nobody do that in the movie.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. But if you really think about it,

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Speaker 5: Are turning side to side and they're both pleasing each

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Speaker 3: I actually thought it was a little corny.

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Speaker 4: I think that, having watched Cronenberg films, if you watch

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Speaker 5: A, minute then you have to, think why is that?

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Speaker 5: Here and why did they end the scene with that.

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Speaker 1: PART i thought he was just you, KNOW i thought

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Speaker 1: he was, just you, know you just want to do something,

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Speaker 3: Know and well she wanted she didn't want to initiated.

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Speaker 4: It, yeah we'll get more into this, later but, YES

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Speaker 4: i think that there was a very specific reason that

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Speaker 2: That interesting because sex is a part of this.

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Speaker 4: Movie it's a very important part of this.

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Speaker 2: Movie mm, hm, damn.

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Speaker 3: What the hell WAS i? Watching are you sure you watched?

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Speaker 3: It what did you? WANT i got other parts of

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Speaker 1: That but we go from there to What mike was

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Speaker 1: getting into and we Meet tom excuse, me the two

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Speaker 1: drifters to go to rob the, Diner like kid was,

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Speaker 1: Saying tom quickly kills both of, them way more skill

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Speaker 1: set than people would have thought a small town random

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Speaker 1: man would have. Had first time looking at, it you

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Speaker 3: Situation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah when they walked, in kidnapped the, woman you, know

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Speaker 1: and then he cracked the guys out, there pop hop

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Speaker 1: out shot the other. GUY i was, Like, oh this motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: Military but that's WHAT i was going to ask. You

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Speaker 1: once you've seen. Him he was too, comfortable like it

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Speaker 3: Dad COULD i do something like?

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Speaker 2: That you, know but he just he looked.

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Speaker 1: Unbothered when he, Did i'm, like wait a, minute so that's,

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Speaker 1: it BECAUSE i thought they were about to wreck havoc

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Speaker 1: and then it was just, over.

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Speaker 2: Like, nah Y'ALL e meant the right one?

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Speaker 1: Today if, so then at this Point i'm, like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well all, right so maybe they were not doing. ANYTHING i, said,

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Speaker 1: okay so maybe they were part of a, family especially

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Speaker 5: The movie in the. City that's WHAT i was, Thinking,

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Speaker 5: Bike and none of that shit. Happened what was you?

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Speaker 5: THINKING i thought it happened like everything escalated pretty. Quickly,

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Speaker 5: ACTUALLY i didn't think they was gonna set it off that,

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Speaker 5: i didn't think it was gonna be a hot. SITUATION

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Speaker 3: Quick he. Did, yeah so so, yeah.

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Speaker 5: But seeing him do all the you, know the coffee pot,

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Speaker 3: THAT i was, like, YEAH i was thinking to like

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Speaker 1: The the thing is like it happened, quick and then

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Speaker 3: That what do you mean a bunch of movie after?

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Speaker 5: That that's when it's like we had some action in my,

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Speaker 5: right and then it just kind of slowed down all

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Speaker 5: the way till we.

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Speaker 1: Get to when he met his Brother. Richie it's just

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Speaker 1: like you live in a. Town if you lived in

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Speaker 1: a town like this and you see what's what's his, Name, Tom,

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Speaker 1: tom Regular tom from the diner get down like, this

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Speaker 2: Up you think he just know how to defend.

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Speaker 3: HIMSELF i don't think he did anything that was that.

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Speaker 4: Crazy maybe it was the budget that they couldn't hire

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Speaker 4: Shit but him bopping that dude in the face with

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Speaker 4: Counter i'm, like, Okay i'm. There but then he got

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Speaker 4: got stabbed in the foot and he shot the other.

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Speaker 3: Guy like you didn't do nothing, special but.

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Speaker 2: It seems like.

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Speaker 1: INSTINCT i think most people were coward in those, situations

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Speaker 4: Some holes of MEAN i.

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Speaker 1: Am but he did somebodybody come in The vegan restaurant

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Speaker 1: ready to? Rob yeah you're talking about, like well he

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Speaker 1: did it be in my?

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Speaker 3: Head, yeah BUT i don't know if BECAUSE i didn't

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Speaker 5: OUT i told him at one, TIME i got the

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Speaker 5: same thing happened in The Papa, Giants LIKE i was

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Speaker 2: And somebody in my head somebody came and.

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Speaker 3: Robbed, yeah that came with guns.

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Speaker 2: BLAZING i wouldn't need guns blazing with.

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Speaker 3: Two guys the same.

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Speaker 5: Thing, yeah two guys guns blazing And i'm, like not,

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Speaker 3: I'm, like, MAN i can probably take this. Motherfucker you

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Speaker 5: Saying i'm, Like i'm looking around thinking about. IT i

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Speaker 1: Not yeah that's.

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Speaker 5: Why so that's what jumped. In so it's something like that.

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Speaker 5: HAPPENED i could maybe didn't see myself jumping in at that.

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Speaker 5: Point you, know if if you, know if somebody tried

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Speaker 5: to take, him try about to kill a, woman if

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Speaker 5: it was Like megan or Like sophie sitting.

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Speaker 3: There, yeah, yeah he's, like Well i'm Gonna i'm gonna shoot, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Because i'm already thinking, it which he was already thinking it,

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Speaker 3: Do you can kind of see him processing because he.

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Speaker 5: Flinched at him and then pointed a gun at, him

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Speaker 5: like because he was gonna do something.

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Speaker 3: Tight it actually had to all, right, fuck it's fight

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Speaker 1: Now, well let me ask you, This. Mike did he

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Speaker 1: recognize these? Motherfuckers of course he.

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Speaker 5: Did of course he. Did he's the one THAT i didn't. Think, no, no, no,

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Speaker 5: no the first two. Guys, no HE i don't know

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Speaker 5: if he, KNEW i don't, Know.

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Speaker 1: And that's why he did what he, did because he

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Speaker 4: Killing, YEAH i don't. Know he he definitely the. TROUBLE

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Speaker 4: i don't know if he knew that they were.

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Speaker 2: From the from the.

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Speaker 3: WHATEVER i never thought about.

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Speaker 2: IT i always thought that he.

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Speaker 3: Recognized, no you're probably, right.

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Speaker 1: YEAH i always thought that it was, like oh, shit

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Speaker 1: LIKE i hope they don't recognize me or some shit like.

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Speaker 4: That but either, way even if he didn't recognize, them

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Speaker 4: the dude, said, no actually he must have Recognized.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking About Foggerty, spike not the guy with the,

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Speaker 1: who they would like. THAT i think then it't paying

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Speaker 1: to him giving a little look or something. LIKE i

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Speaker 1: thound that he looked at. It and that's WHAT i

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Speaker 1: did like about this. Movie the first time he seen

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Speaker 1: it was something biggieous in the sense of is he

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Speaker 1: do he? LIKE i couldn't tell at, first but then second, watch.

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Speaker 4: You, KNOW i think even if he didn't recognize, HIM

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Speaker 4: dudes that all right offer kill, HER i think he

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Speaker 4: would have don't had. To BUT i think those guys

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Speaker 1: Her, NO i thought they were as the movie went,

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Speaker 1: ON i thought they were actually looking for.

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Speaker 4: Him, Yes SO i think that they must have knew

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Speaker 4: were because there was no reason for them to kill that, woman,

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Speaker 1: In, WELL i, thought, well the reason WHY i thought

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Speaker 1: explain that these guys don't give a fuck about, anything

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Speaker 1: anybody so they don't have any. Remorse but you, know

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Speaker 1: as it went, ON i thought that AS i got

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Speaker 1: That richie sent they found out where he. Was richie

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Speaker 1: sent them to the town to either verify to go get,

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Speaker 2: Once they didn't come, back he, comes.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no and that's probably why he reacted to

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Speaker 1: watching And i'm just trying to get some insight from

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00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,880
Speaker 1: those that. Have so you mentioned you Mentioned Carl. Father

442
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: he came to town as a scarred. Mobster he arrives

443
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 1: in town and he, says you know, What tom is

444
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 1: not who he Say he is not your local. Hero

445
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 1: this Is Joey, cusack Former philly. Gangster of Course tom denies,

446
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 1: this and my question to the crew is what Was

447
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: tom convincing in his denial of Being?

448
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 5: Cusack he, Was i'm gonna say he definitely, was but

449
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 5: he could definitely tell he. Was he was nervous because

450
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 5: he kept checking all the news clippings and, stuff and he's, Like,

451
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,959
Speaker 5: okay why is he concerned about, him you, know his

452
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 5: face being out there or.

453
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 3: Whatnot BUT i didn't think about.

454
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 5: That, Afterwards i'm, Like, okay that's why he was like

455
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,479
Speaker 5: that when he was watching the news and all. That

456
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 5: but you, know he was definitely convincing THAT i don't

457
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 5: know what you talking. About i'm just a nigga on the,

458
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 5: diner you know What i'm. Saying so, YEAH i was convinced, that,

459
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,640
Speaker 5: man these dudes they got the wrong.

460
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 3: Guy what'd you?

461
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 2: Think first time watching ause.

462
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 3: This?

463
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: Guy david did a good job BECAUSE i thought he

464
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: was just a hero and that's why he was watching the.

465
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 1: DUDES i don't think that he was thinking about, like,

466
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 1: damn did somebody recognize? ME i think that's why it's so.

467
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: Complex and while he shot shunned away from being a.

468
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 3: Hero up To mike's, point.

469
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: That's why this movie is so complex and not really,

470
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: simple because you. Can't the guy that Played tom did

471
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: a really good job of just being ambiguous and HE

472
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: i was, Like, Ron i'm looking at him like he

473
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: got something he, had BUT i don't got no.

474
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 2: PROOF i just know you had.

475
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 1: THERE i didn't think he was hotting anything Until foggerty showed.

476
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: Up even at that point in this, movie he was

477
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: a hero. Everybody he was on the news, everywhere and

478
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: he was just kind of keeping up with it because

479
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: that's what they're talking, about and he was just a

480
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: big star in the.

481
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 5: CITY i didn't even think about the fact that He, Yes,

482
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 5: mike what say you did?

483
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: That this whole, situation wh he's coming to the, town

484
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: he's excusing you of being someone? Else how did He

485
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 1: his response, said did you think it was? Ambiguous or

486
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: do you think he was? There it was telltale signs

487
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: that he. Is dude thought he was the first TIME

488
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: i watched. IT i definitely did not think that he

489
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: was anybody. ELSE i was, LIKE i don't, KNOW i

490
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening.

491
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 4: HERE i don't know what's going. On they're not giving

492
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 4: us any kind of explanation or. EXPOSITION i had no,

493
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 4: idea had no. Idea what rewatching it now and again

494
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 4: judging on the, budget AND i think that that first

495
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 4: scene was maybe supposed to be like some super badass.

496
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 3: Shit so maybe Now i'm just.

497
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 4: Like, okay they're kind of giving it away that he.

498
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 4: Is you, know he's definitely somebody.

499
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: Else speaking of giving it, away we moved to the

500
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: escalation in school and we see the bully picked back.

501
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 2: Up it ain't going.

502
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: Away we thought it was gonna go this time, around,

503
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: though and you see his son beat the living shit

504
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: out a. Dude at that, point me, Myself i'm, thinking, oh,

505
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: yeah dude got something else going. On he may Be

506
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: john cusaid because this is in his. Genes he ain't

507
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: the type to get bullied. Around he just didn't know

508
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: it was. Dad and it finally came out of ken

509
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: first time seeing. This did you put that? Together this

510
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: was a? Trade what did you think he just went

511
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: off with his daddy told him to. Do, NO i

512
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: did put it.

513
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 2: Together it was a.

514
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: TRADE i looked at it as like he saw that

515
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: his dad was able to do, it SO i can

516
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: do it, too and that he was just trying to

517
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: emulate what his dad was did it Like i'm gonna

518
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: stand up to, bullies so and he came up with

519
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: a way to take them both down and that's what he.

520
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: Did SO i think he just had a little bit

521
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: more confidence in himself because he showed no signs of

522
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: being able to fight or do any of that.

523
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: Shit was this nature or? Nurture?

524
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 3: Bro what do you THINK i think could have went either?

525
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: Way that's WHAT i was.

526
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 5: Saying it was a little. Confusing it's, like, well, damn

527
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 5: like it is the family in on this whole. Ship

528
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 5: but because even the way he was explaining, it he's, like,

529
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 5: man you could have killed him or something like.

530
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 3: That he's, like, yeah you, KNOW i took a light on,

531
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: Him like you know What i'm.

532
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 5: SAYING i didn't want to reveal THAT i.

533
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 3: Had that's how he kind of made it.

534
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 5: Seem but, nah once we realized like they didn't know

535
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 5: who he was, Either SO i was, like.

536
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: Okay what say, you, like did you what do you

537
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: think they would try to?

538
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 5: Say, NO i think that this implies WHAT i was saying,

539
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 5: earlier that this is more of a complex.

540
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 4: STORY i think they were showing how violence uh impacts certain,

541
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 4: people and the son realizing that his dad was able

542
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 4: to get out of a situation through, violence he saw

543
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 4: that as being his way out.

544
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: Too. Now as far as why he was able to

545
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 3: beat that, ass, yeah it could be.

546
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: Jeans it could be that he was, just you, know

547
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 4: predisposed to having that type of fight or flight in

548
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 4: him once he realized.

549
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 3: It but, yeah he beat both of their.

550
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: Asses do you think he wanted to fight him because

551
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: it looked like he was trying to walk away to

552
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: until the other kid came.

553
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 4: Up he was trying to walk, away but you can

554
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 4: also tell that he was struggling with, it like part

555
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 4: of him wanted to. Fight And i've been in this,

556
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 4: situation this exact, situation you, know especially you, know BECAUSE

557
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 4: i told you, before you, know WHEN i was bullying

558
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 4: in high, SCHOOL i had to use with because that's

559
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 4: ALL i, had you, KNOW i had to make a

560
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 4: motherfucker feel real, stupid and they left me. ALONE i

561
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 4: never got to the point where had to beat up

562
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 4: two people at the same. Time but you could tell

563
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 4: that he was struggling with, that and then he's wrestling

564
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 4: with the fact, that LIKE i want to fucking hurt.

565
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 4: YOU i want to hurt. You and then it just it.

566
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: Clicked it was just funny that the parents of that

567
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: kid became victims of the kid became a victim.

568
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: Away, oh we're gonna have to sue, now and blah blah.

569
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: Blah he had been with me this whole, time and

570
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: nobody came to my, rescue nobody ateing.

571
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: Me and now THAT i do, this Now i'm the

572
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: bad guy.

573
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 3: And you gotta look at.

574
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 4: It also is he probably would have left it alone

575
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 4: if that girl wasn't. There he might have actually walked.

576
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: AWAY i, MEAN i, know the other dude kind of

577
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 4: like stopped him or. Whatever but that girl being, THERE

578
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 4: i think added to. It so there was like a

579
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: parallel between him and his. Dad when his dad was

580
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 4: in the, diner it was that girl being there and

581
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 4: almost getting killed that made him fucking pop. Off in this,

582
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 4: situation it's that girl being there looking, on being like

583
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 4: leg that.

584
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 3: Made him pop. Off so, YEAH i think.

585
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 4: This is a pretty interesting way that they're showing how

586
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 4: the violence impacts other people that weren't even directly involved in.

587
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: It, yes speaking of viot, it there's a confrontation at the.

588
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: House fogerty his man pull up On tom outside of the.

589
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: House tom goes. Back you left.

590
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 4: Out SO i hate to be a, rod but you

591
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 4: actually did leave out a pretty important, part this part

592
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 4: where he fought the. Kids it follows what it follows

593
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 4: the dad slapping the ship out of the. Violence so

594
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 4: he went to. School he was.

595
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: Mad, remember AM i getting that? Backwards are you?

596
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 5: Right?

597
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: No, no he slapped the kid. After never, mind but

598
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: it's your point.

599
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: Still it happened after because that's why he ran, off

600
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: and that's how they were able.

601
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: To BUT i thought.

602
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 4: Something happened before because he was mad when he went to.

603
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 4: SCHOOL i thought something happened before they went to.

604
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: SCHOOL i don't think he was. MAD i think he

605
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 3: was actually proud that his dad.

606
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: Was a hero And, ship yeah they all were at this.

607
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 3: Point it's, possible BUT i don't.

608
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: Remember. Okay, yeah it was just like when he came

609
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: back and he was he was Talking ship to his

610
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: dad because he was talking his dad because his dad

611
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: because he was, like, Well, ship you just did this

612
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: whole ship like at the.

613
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 3: Diner oh, yeah because the dad said you, know what

614
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 3: are you doing or? Whatever and he was, like well

615
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: it was you shot him or? Something?

616
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: Brother, yeah he. Did he was like bro at that

617
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: point he was Like, John.

618
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah he's definitely. Yeah.

619
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: Ship so we get to the confrontation Johns.

620
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 3: Christy what's his name Is? Tom?

621
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: John?

622
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: JOHN i think It's John cusack is an. ACTOR i,

623
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: KNOW i.

624
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: Know that's why when he said, It.

625
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 3: Joey, joey Joe joey was. Crazy so.

626
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: Now remember the other sets part ye get to. That

627
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: let's go to the. Confrontation let's go to the conversation

628
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: at the house. First.

629
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: Fan so there's a confrontation at the house and it

630
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: was Violid mike.

631
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: Hitting.

632
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: It now they Confront tom outside of his house and

633
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: he shows no mercy ruthlessly kills both of. Them but

634
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: the wife notices. This this goes to your, point, Right it's,

635
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: like does everybody know that he's in on like he

636
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Was Joey cusack or are they surprised to see this

637
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: side of? Him she looked fairly. Surprised did you think?

638
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: Differently by this POINT i did, Think, okay sh she don't,

639
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: know yeah or. Whatever and then she started asking, him so, okay,

640
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: damn so he this is just him or?

641
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: Whatever so he pooling. Everybody, yeah my, boy what did you, Think?

642
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: MIKE i never thought that she.

643
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: Knew never thought she.

644
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: KNEW i never thought she.

645
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 4: Knew and when when they pulled, UP i think she

646
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: took off out the room because he said go to your,

647
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: son right or, no go to your daughter to so

648
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: he sent her in the.

649
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: House SO i didn't think she.

650
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: Knew like a woman get in the kitchen made me.

651
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 6: Sad WHEN i get, THAT i got a hand, said

652
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 6: After i'm. Done that was really that was so like

653
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 6: skip that.

654
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: PART i was gonna be a rod on that part.

655
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: Too what are you talking?

656
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: About when he? Ran it?

657
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 2: Was, yeah it was.

658
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: Relevant it was relevant because this is the only part

659
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 4: of the whole movie that hate.

660
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 7: Crippled how does dude is stabbing the foot? Yet but

661
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 7: how that dude stabbing the?

662
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: Foot how he run the whole way? HOME i was,

663
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: LIKE i don't like. That that's.

664
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: Stupid it didn't make it because he got home, quick

665
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: he did the.

666
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: Work he walked because remember at one, point because when

667
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: he walked, out because the cars pulled, up he was

668
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: looking out the window and was, like okay she Was

669
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: she was, like it's more, Reported LIKE i don't look

670
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: like reported and then because remember earlier he said something

671
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: about the truck was out of. Gas can you drop

672
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: me off of? Something and then the second time he

673
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: they we saw him walking out and it took a

674
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: right to.

675
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: Walk the word that's crazy that he walked all the

676
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 4: way to work after getting that for the, foot and

677
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: nobody was.

678
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: Like i'll give you a, rock, right, yea it was

679
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: the hometown, hero, right but but, yeah the ISSUE i

680
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: had he was right for choking a little.

681
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: Bit i'm saying this, right BUT i understand made my,

682
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: walk you.

683
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: Know but, uh but the WHAT i WHAT i thought

684
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: was gonna happen didn't. Happen and the son did, it

685
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: not the wife BECAUSE i remember that Part rod And

686
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: mike when he was, like go get, go get the.

687
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: Shotty So i'm, like when when they were out he

688
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: was basically being confronted by them and being taken. AWAY

689
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: i thought she was gonna come out with the shotgun

690
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: and shoot on and she in the corner hot.

691
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 4: Again violence affecting that kid, Differently it didn't really affect

692
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: her like.

693
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: That AND i would AND i will also, think, WELL

694
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: i would be kind of surprised because remember the when

695
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: she took the girl out for shoes And foggerty was

696
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: outside waiting on him and she found the restraining order or.

697
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: WHATEVER i thought she she did. It, yeah she actually did,

698
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: it SO i thought at that, point you, know the

699
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: threat was elevated of who these guys.

700
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: Were so she would have been a little bit more on.

701
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: Edge but she.

702
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: Was she she was. Not she had a hit up,

703
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: her but she took them.

704
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: Out guy.

705
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: Is, crazy his fucking note and that's a real. Move

706
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: it doesn't. Matter but like you, know one of my

707
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: mom's boyfriends and taught me that move.

708
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: And get.

709
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: Because it'll kill.

710
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: You.

711
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah it supposed to do it once and that

712
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: will take them motherfucker. Out one of my best friends

713
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 4: in high school was a black belt in tenth grade

714
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: and he told me about that. Here you, know he

715
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: was always, like, man fight back WHEN i was Getting

716
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: bullieduck's biggest rod and smallest. Feet i'm not fighting. Nobody

717
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: but he was, like all you gotta do is hit

718
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: him like that one. Time but then he told me

719
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: later that if you do it, right that will kill.

720
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: Him So i'm in tenth, Grade i'm, Like i'm not killing.

721
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: Anybody, yeah my father in law talk.

722
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: And the kidney punch might take you down and take you.

723
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: Down you hit some, money, right the, right, dude that's probably.

724
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: Why but think about you get, hit you can't even

725
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: keep the.

726
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: Team like everything was, gone and he did a lot of,

727
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: this he was he was catch a lot off the wind.

728
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: Pipe from now we get one of the pillars of

729
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: the whole, movie As mike says violent, sex saying on

730
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: the stairs eating And tom have sex that's aggressive and.

731
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: Painful and the question here is was this because she

732
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: was turned on by what she's seen whoever Wants oh

733
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: you have wrapped that? Up this ship threw me the

734
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: fuck off Because i'm, like what the? Hell because when

735
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: he snatched her, up because she in front of her

736
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: like oh your ass really is Motherfucking joey and was

737
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: talking ship to, him and when he snatched her up

738
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: and choked, her BRO i was, Like, yo this is.

739
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: Crazy AND i was hoping he really didn't like commit to,

740
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: yeah but this you, know, so but you KNOW i,

741
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: was you, KNOW i guess SO i don't know me, Here,

742
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: WELL i guess that did? It, Yeah like that's WHAT

743
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: i took off on this. PART i don't know if

744
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: it turned her on or not she's.

745
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: SCARED i think she was.

746
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 4: SCARED i think that in this moment they were trying

747
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 4: to show that that perfect BALANCE i was talking about

748
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: earlier is completely. Gone now violence has entered the relationship

749
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: and it's. Off the FIRST i watched this, MOVIE i

750
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: thought this scene was stupid as. FUCK i was, like

751
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 4: that was what the fuck they fucked on the? Stairs

752
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: this doesn't make any. Sense, like but after watching it

753
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: a few, TIMES i think that they were definitely trying

754
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 4: to imply that things are different now that violence has been.

755
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: Introduced whether or not she was actually turned, ON i don't.

756
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: KNOW i don't.

757
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: Know, yeah because you, know that could be a, trope

758
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: stereotype or whatever that is being said out, there not

759
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: saying that it does not. Exist you, know it seems

760
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: like it's, Possible rod because my thing was, like, MAN

761
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: i hope like This joey guy is showing up, now

762
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: because that's what she. SAID i Saw. JOEY i Saw,

763
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: joey and Now joey doesn't. CARE i, guess going back

764
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: to What mike was saying about this perfectly semiotic, relationship

765
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: Now i'm the dominant figure in this. Relationship therefore you

766
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: will do my, bidding and she conceded out of, fear

767
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: because remember when she got, up what does she?

768
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: Do she hit it stormed.

769
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 4: Off SO i always took that they need this open,

770
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: ended like you're not sure is it a matter of

771
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: she's turned on or is it a matter of she

772
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: felt like she was about to get, raped and she

773
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: went ahead and conceded so she would not be. Raped

774
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: and then when it was, done he got his nut.

775
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: Off she bowed and then stormed up the. Stairs i'm

776
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: still unclear on this, scene BUT i don't know if

777
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 4: it's as simple as, OH i saw my man be.

778
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: VIOLENT i. DON'T i don't know if that's what it.

779
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: IS i really. DON'T i. DON'T i wasn't confusing to.

780
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: Y'all y' said.

781
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 5: It was like you know because YOU i, mean you

782
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 5: hear and see like women wanted to be choked and

783
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 5: stuff like, that not in a in a violent in

784
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 5: an absolute violent way like, oh but but you've heard

785
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 5: people women say, like, yo don't don't show me to

786
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 5: WHERE i can't. Breathe just show me to WHERE i

787
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 5: feel LIKE i can't.

788
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: Breathe the freak. Couch go.

789
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 5: Ahead i'm just saying to the table y'all heard this.

790
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 3: Ship i'm not saying you. Heard don't.

791
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 5: You know about all that you know about blood, playing

792
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 5: you know about flood.

793
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: Playing everything don't.

794
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: All right brand new?

795
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 5: Now but, nah but, yeah like that's that's the. Thing

796
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 5: she seemed like she was genuinely turned. On BUT i

797
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 5: can see you guys perspective as. Well and the only thing,

798
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 5: too that made me think that because she already tried

799
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 5: some freaking ship.

800
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: Earlier she was just like so it seemed like she

801
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: was into like some kinky. Ship you know What i'm.

802
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 5: SAYING i think they applied, it like with her wanting

803
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: to start the kinky ship, before and she's, like this

804
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 5: is just some mother kinky ship that she.

805
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 3: Was what was? Kinky you thought was?

806
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 5: Kinky just just her dressing up as a.

807
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 4: Rock y'all laughing to her didn't catch the right.

808
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: Boy he would have just, Clear i'm not doing.

809
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: It.

810
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 5: Again but she revealed that ship earlier, though she was

811
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 5: into some ship and she wanted and, yeah the circumstances

812
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 5: were fucked, up you know What i'm. Saying, LIKE i

813
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 5: think under other circumstances he wouldn't have got the slap

814
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 5: at the.

815
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: End BUT i think she still would have been into,

816
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: it you know What i'm, Saying.

817
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 5: BUT i think because of the lying and her not,

818
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 5: knowing that's where the slap came.

819
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: From in a role playing, SITUATION i could see what

820
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: you're saying.

821
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly but. Not but they weren't role, playing and

822
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: the very next scene is Not he's like this my

823
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 4: ass taking it and if you don't want to give

824
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 4: it to, Me i'm really gonna take.

825
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: It that's HOW i took that.

826
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: Scene because right after that.

827
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: They showed her in the.

828
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 4: Bed she's crying and she has a huge gash on her,

829
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 4: Back SO i think that down was from the.

830
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: Stairs SO i think it's like that.

831
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 5: That the sex scene here was, violent it was, awkward

832
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 5: and it was completely.

833
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 4: Imbalanced she was not in control at.

834
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: All from the previous scene what you're, saying it was

835
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: completely it Was it was.

836
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 4: Balanced it was almost like A Yin yang because they turned.

837
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 4: Sideways it was, mutual which for most people that Do fix,

838
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 4: nine it's not sideways ones on.

839
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: Top they turned. Sideways Yin. Yang you told, Me.

840
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 4: I'm just saying If i'm reading too much, fun but

841
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: that's always.

842
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: WHAT i took from this.

843
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: Movie so post it was also, missionary which is typically

844
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: viewed as the man being in.

845
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: Charge that's, true so.

846
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: Typical so from here we have the reveal man truth is.

847
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: Revealed tom, like you know what FUCK i? Am joey

848
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: cusack uh former killer who Ran philly from years. Ago

849
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: my question to you, guys as he reveals, it he

850
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: don't get work. Up there is no umph to. It

851
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: it's just, like, okay it is what it. Is was

852
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: that from him being guilty from? It or was he

853
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: detached from that life he?

854
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 2: Buried he said he buried, It but did you see any?

855
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: Guilt could you notice any guilt with how he? Delivered,

856
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: yes this is WHO i.

857
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: Am it didn't seem like to, me it didn't seem

858
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: like he was sorry About he didn't care when he revealed.

859
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: It he was to who he was well at this

860
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: point he was. Caught, well so it was just like all, right,

861
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: fine you got. Me but he really didn't. Care it's

862
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: like it is what it is when the reveal came,

863
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: out not when he was talking To i'm.

864
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 4: Honestly trying to remember when the reveal came. Out who

865
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 4: was he talking to when he was finally like all.

866
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 3: Right, Cool so you went back a little.

867
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: BIT i went back a little, bit was talking to.

868
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: Five he, SAID i should have killed you back In,

869
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 5: Philly jersey or wherever he.

870
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 3: Was and that was in the front.

871
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: Yard, okay that's WHY i Was, Okay i'm not. Trying

872
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 4: remember when the sex. HAPPENED i thought the sex. Happened

873
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 4: it was after.

874
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 2: That it was after that he JUST i just skipped.

875
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 4: Around so he killed them and then they had. Sex

876
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: when did he have to go with?

877
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 3: Buddy? When, GOD i guess that was When.

878
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: RICHIE i Think richie kind of know, him And richie

879
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: that was on the car took in front of mab.

880
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: Boss, Right but what made him leave What I'm richie called,

881
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: him that's, Right.

882
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 4: Richie called him on the. Phone that's. Right, okay, now.

883
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah but but the cat was out of the back

884
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: at this. Point he didn't you have the reveal was,

885
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: yeah the cop was even, like, yeah this ain't add.

886
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: Enough but but even when when this motherfucker is, heartless you,

887
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: know because when he when he was talking when you,

888
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: know the wife and and the mom, wife when.

889
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: He was having an argument with his wife about you,

890
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: know who are?

891
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: You what are you? Like who is this? Person? Blah blah,

892
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: blah and he, said Why tom stalls this motherfucker because it's.

893
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: AVAILABLE i was available. Too, YEAH i felter on that

894
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: that was a good.

895
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: Line that was a good. Line but, WELL i mean,

896
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: yeah but that show like it kind of showed. That, yeah,

897
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: yeah because it was. Available there's no real reason WHY

898
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: i took.

899
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: It and it was just LIKE i thought it was.

900
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 5: GONE i THOUGHT i thought he was gone by the

901
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 5: way he was talking About john like he was skit.

902
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: So and he kind of went back and forth to

903
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: yeah about Between john and And joey and.

904
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 3: Said i'm Sorry. Joey. Yeah it was kind of a

905
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: stupid ass.

906
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: Question, though what Why tom starts if you if you

907
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: are picking, up Then i'm a. Gangster why you ask

908
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: me WHY i picked this? Name what difference he?

909
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: MADE i didn't really?

910
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: Name is just our, Kids and that's. Funny my whole

911
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: question was what what triggered?

912
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: It it? Was it?

913
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: Was it? Was it was it.

914
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 5: The dinner when he had to fight at the dinner

915
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 5: That John joey coosad to come.

916
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: OUT i think it was a dude coming to look for. Him, now,

917
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: YEAH i think it was. That, YEAH i think his.

918
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: Family, YEAH i started looking following my.

919
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: Family she brought it out on their.

920
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: Case Bro joey back now, then DON'T i thought it was?

921
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 5: Her it was, like it's all her. Fault it's all her.

922
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 5: Fault this ain't the mobster's. Fault this is her. Fault

923
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 5: she came in. There tell every since then he was

924
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: he Was Joey. Cusack after that he was Joe WHICH

925
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 5: i have to say about the, trip.

926
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all y'all third, eye that's what you gotta be.

927
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: Doing this sixty nine.

928
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: Joy man out of, that out of just in, time

929
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: this time for the.

930
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: Dynasty what did y'all think about the trip that he

931
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: took To philadelphia to confront the mob?

932
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: BOSS i, like all of this brother was. Crazy, yeah

933
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: but what is that also?

934
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: Mean because he's wearing a, cross but they rarely ever

935
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 4: focus on.

936
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: It so maybe Maybe jesus brought, it you, know took

937
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: him no for, Real maybe.

938
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 4: He Found jesus and Found god and found religion and

939
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: that got him away From. Cusack but then these motherfuckers

940
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 4: them brought them back.

941
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: Out yeah he. Was he wasn't even trying to entertain

942
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: because that guy was, like, yeah just finish your. Beer

943
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: and we can. Go he was, like, man take this,

944
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: ship bro, right you, know let's. Go it was it

945
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: was kind of, honestly everything was dark and. Creepy i'm, like,

946
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: bro do you even like nowhere you're? Going? Like are

947
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: you in your peas and? Cools, like what's really? HAPPY

948
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: i didn't give a at that.

949
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 2: Point, YEAH i think he was just like seeing. Red

950
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: at that, point he was seeing.

951
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: RED i didn't see. That he seemed like he was

952
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: trying to be.

953
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: Nice, yeah with, RIGHT i thought he was trying to

954
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: get out of there straight and.

955
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: VENGEANCE i thought he was trying to Get richie to back.

956
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: Down, no he was.

957
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: Reach he threatened this family came to the WAY i.

958
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: WAS i was laying.

959
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: Low you know WHO i.

960
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: Am you know What i'm capable of period kill you today.

961
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 4: Living this, life or at LEAST i, mean we can

962
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 4: guess that the that the sun was, sixteen.

963
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, right fifteen high.

964
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 4: School we could guess he's been with his wife at

965
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 4: least a good seventeen eighteen, years so he's not been

966
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: cusack for at least eighteen.

967
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: Years that's what he.

968
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: Said he, said you've been this other guy for as

969
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: long as you've Been John Joe. Joey, oh, yeah he

970
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: did say. That he did say. That that was actually an interesting.

971
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 5: Line he, said you've been this new guy for just

972
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 5: as long as you were the other, guy so we

973
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 5: can we.

974
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 4: Can he's lived half his life as this new. Person

975
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: he clearly loves this. Family this dude shows, up this

976
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: guy haven't spoken to in eighteen, years shows up and

977
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 4: threatens my.

978
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: Family Or i'm killing.

979
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: You, YES i don't think he was ever going to

980
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 4: go in there and be, like hey, man can we

981
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: just be?

982
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 2: Cool, nah he's just sleeping.

983
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 3: Alone, right you gotta.

984
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: Die because you gotta think he can't even if you

985
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: go up, there you convince him to leave you, alone

986
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: you don't know how long it lays in his mind

987
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: in two years and come back looking for. You so

988
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: why why did He why didn't he try to kill

989
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: him until he tried to kill.

990
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: Him maybe he didn't know where he was until.

991
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 4: That maybe that's why he gave in and let that

992
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 4: dude drive him up, there because he didn't know where

993
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 4: how to get to.

994
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: Him What i'm, saying by the time he got to the,

995
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: house he seemed like he was in some.

996
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: Peace my, Brothers, yeah that's HOW i kind of. Ready

997
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: it was, like what CAN i do to resolve? This

998
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: to get you.

999
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: To you know.

1000
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: SEE i think that was That tom stole. SHIP i

1001
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: feel like he was playing. POSSIBLE i do.

1002
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: TOO i think that was like a.

1003
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: Watch it again IF i could pick up on. IT

1004
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: i feel like he came In tom Rich they're saying

1005
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: he came. In, wait, no they're saying they came. In

1006
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: he came in As, joey but he was pretending.

1007
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: That that's WHAT i.

1008
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 4: THINK i think he went in there and he played

1009
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 4: that to see what he would, say just to see

1010
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 4: what and and to, like you, know take him off his,

1011
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: guard make everything seem. Calm BUT i Think tom went

1012
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: in there for that action Or Tom.

1013
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: Joey And richie mocked him for, it refuses to forgive

1014
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: and ordered this man to kill.

1015
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: Him would you have to take?

1016
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 5: SO i thought that's when he was just, Like, okay

1017
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 5: you're trying to kill, Me i'm definitely gonna kill.

1018
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: You.

1019
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: Maybe, Well i'm With, richie like how you fucked this?

1020
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: UP i didn't like.

1021
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 3: This he could have been done way.

1022
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 4: Better it was just too sloppy and the stunt coordinating

1023
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 4: was bad and it was just like all, right, man

1024
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 4: this doesn't even really make a lot of.

1025
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 3: Sense and your brother is that bad of a. Shot

1026
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: he was as close to to to him As rod

1027
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: is to.

1028
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 4: Me, yeah and you missed my, boss and you're my.

1029
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 4: Boss you've used this gun.

1030
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: BEFORE i would assume you.

1031
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 4: Missed come, on. Bro, yeah they could have done this

1032
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 4: scene a little bit. Better it didn't hurt the, movie

1033
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 4: but it wasn't.

1034
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: Awesome, yeah that was that was part of, This like

1035
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: he didn't really seem like he was this because they

1036
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: were they were talking him up like he was that,

1037
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: guy he was that and it was like the action

1038
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: and it didn't really uh you, know portray that.

1039
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: Except when he stopping that dude next.

1040
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Man yeah it's.

1041
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: Hard, yeah but he was moving all slow and ship.

1042
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: Exactly that's WHAT i talking, About like the sun. Board

1043
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: he was not very, like.

1044
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 4: How why are you beating ass that?

1045
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: Slow?

1046
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 3: God damn.

1047
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: All, right beat ass? Slow then we get To tom

1048
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: beat his. Ass, YEAH i don't, know it's A kiki show.

1049
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: ALREADY i don't know What spike over The Let.

1050
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: It go did weird the way he kissed him on his.

1051
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: Cheeckens oh, yeah it. Was it was sloppy, Dude it's

1052
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: not like it was a wet kiss the way you.

1053
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: Can't it must be his.

1054
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 5: Brother it was just the way he, kissed kiss your

1055
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 5: brother like that.

1056
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: The white people do, though like gangster mom what watch you?

1057
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 3: Know they all do that. Weird, yeah but it was

1058
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: just the way he did it though it was. Kissed,

1059
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: yeah it a little, like, MAN i missed, you bro,

1060
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: right he had some weird ye.

1061
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: Fast one to the last half of the movie Rich Over.

1062
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: Ahead he Kills richie with his bare hands and just

1063
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: washed itself off in the, Backyard, like didn't?

1064
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: Happen was it?

1065
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 4: Surprising this movie could have used a little bit more

1066
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: time because him just like him fiddling with the, keys

1067
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 4: and he looked up and his.

1068
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 3: Bow shot in the. Head oh, yeah.

1069
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah you. Know and did y'all see his face? Change

1070
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: So richie's face changed he got shot in the. Head,

1071
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: yeah and what like when he got, shot his mouth was,

1072
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: open and then when they cut back to, it his

1073
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: mouth was.

1074
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: Closing his head was in a different. Spot damn well he.

1075
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: Fell he was already, dead, Bro your head ain't supposed

1076
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: to move, over, like BECAUSE i rewound it.

1077
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 5: BACK i was, like, wait did they get that shot

1078
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 5: different DID i didn't catch, that BUT i believe.

1079
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Should the movie ends By tom returning, home sitting

1080
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: at the dinner. Table everybody sits in. Silence you look At,

1081
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: eating she has some uncertainty in her. Face, wait what's

1082
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: the wife's? Name said? Eating? Eat, yeah and then you

1083
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: look At, jack who is cautious to say the least.

1084
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: Because he remembers.

1085
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: That so so they left really. Ambiguous and as a,

1086
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 1: VIEWER i want y'all and we can wrap the y'all

1087
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: think that they go back to just being a regular

1088
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: family or is it something that for the future that

1089
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: they going to.

1090
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: Be that's what they imply to.

1091
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 5: Me that what they accepting him as the father of

1092
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 5: the family by offering him the meat loaf and the

1093
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 5: food and all that she fixed his dinner.

1094
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: Plate and, YEAH i think there's, like, okay we you,

1095
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 3: know it's almost like is it. Over they was looking

1096
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: at him like is it? Done is it?

1097
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 5: Over and, yeah they accepting him back and he was

1098
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 5: emotional about.

1099
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: It, yeah and with the new terms of, this but

1100
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: the dynamic will. BE i thought it was interesting that

1101
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: it was the little, girl the one that didn't have

1102
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: anything happened to, her you, know did you that one

1103
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: line she, Had oh my, god something about the.

1104
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: SHOES i, thought your, gun take me get some, shoes

1105
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: my meat.

1106
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: Somethody it was pretty bad, anyway but she was the

1107
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: one that made when it got the. Plate but she

1108
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: was also the one that didn't have any violence enacted upon.

1109
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: Her so for, her she don't even look at the.

1110
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: Dad that's still that the same.

1111
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 2: Thing, yeah that damn.

1112
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 3: Simple what you think about?

1113
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 2: It shut?

1114
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: Up so, ANYWAY i only watched. It it was late.

1115
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: Too but, anyway but this WI i like talking through.

1116
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: Ship but, anyway.

1117
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: The sun.

1118
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: Slowly Hesitant Harry.

1119
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 5: Catt took the meat loaf and put it over that

1120
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 5: way you can get, it you.

1121
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: Know he gave him the whole meat loaf, ride.

1122
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: Not a piece of. It what you, want, bro you

1123
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: want my.

1124
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Peace the wife was just.

1125
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 3: She, was who AM i please let.

1126
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 5: This be to please let just bet.

1127
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: With? That with, That joey did? Okay you know at the.

1128
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: Before we, wrap one question THAT i have Was tom

1129
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: protecting his family or did he drag him into his?

1130
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 3: Past he protected? HIM i, thing, yeah, yeah, YEAH i

1131
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: MEAN i kept the.

1132
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 5: Innocence it's like keeping the innocence of a child, like,

1133
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 5: right you don't, like it's the same thing he was

1134
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 5: trying to do with his.

1135
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: Family they got they involuntarily got wrapped up in that

1136
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: world and they just didn't know how to process, it you.

1137
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: Know so the mom, NATURALLY i think all them kind

1138
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: of had naturally emotional, reactions especially the wife because was,

1139
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 1: like who.

1140
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: The fucking my? Marriage you, know and even the sun was.

1141
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: Reacting he was a bit of an asshole because when

1142
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: he come, fronted he was talking, about, oh what happened

1143
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: IF i say, this, WELL i get whacked when.

1144
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 5: WHAT i did, right you, Know i'm that you know

1145
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 5: WHAT i got.

1146
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: These you want to experience? This but asking mama about.

1147
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 5: Any final, thoughts there's definitely a story of your past

1148
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 5: coming back to haunt you type of. Situation so, now

1149
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 5: LIKE i, said, MAN i still stand BY i think

1150
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 5: it was a little basic in my, opinion but you,

1151
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 5: know but good at the same. TIME i don't mean

1152
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 5: basic as this basic ass movie was boring as. FUCK

1153
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 5: i don't mean it like. That it's just, like you,

1154
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 5: KNOW i didn't have to wreck my brain to try

1155
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 5: to figure out.

1156
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: Anything it looks the story seemed Pretty.

1157
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't seems service LEVEL i think talking it out

1158
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: you can get you, know layers d probably IF i

1159
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: watched it, again MAYBE i. Could and now THAT i

1160
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: know the, STORY i could start to see like the intricacies.

1161
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: There because WHEN i saw it was it Was David

1162
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: rodenberg that did, IT i was, like, well, DAMN i

1163
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: normally know him to do like more layer in, in you,

1164
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: know stuff like. That SO i was surprised that that

1165
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: was the reaction to feeling THAT i had off the first.

1166
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: Watch but BUT i. AIN'T i ain't gonna even lot of.

1167
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: Y'all i'm not gonna watch it, again but BUT i

1168
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: do like BECAUSE i don't need to watch it. Again

1169
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: but just like the the violence and how violence we get,

1170
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: violence talking that THROUGH i think is is. Dope so so,

1171
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: yeah last, Words, mike.

1172
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: No, Man i'm at least glad that everybody liked it

1173
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 4: for the most, part that nobody hated.

1174
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: It But i've been teasing.

1175
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 4: Y'all but, yes the very first TIME i watched, IT

1176
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 4: i agreed with Rodding ken one hundred. PERCENT i was,

1177
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 4: like that ship was a simple ass. Move But i'm

1178
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: meant it more than. NEGATIVE i was just, like all,

1179
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 4: right nothing. Happened it didn't really click until a buddy

1180
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 4: of mine was, like, no it's croning.

1181
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 3: Bird you need to go back and watch it.

1182
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 4: AGAIN i was like the movie where they fucked on

1183
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 4: the stairs and he ran home with one.

1184
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: Foot that's. Stupid what are you talking?

1185
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: About but WHEN i sat down and stopped being, PAYHEADED

1186
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 4: i was, like, OH i see, Now, OKAY i get.

1187
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: It so now it's a good it's a good, movie

1188
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 4: clean hour and a.

1189
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 3: Half, yes, yeah they.

1190
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: Didn't oh that was the best part for. Me they.

1191
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: DIDN'T i was just it was, Late, mike it was

1192
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: like ten AND i you.

1193
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: Know, anyway all right. Man that was our review for

1194
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: the anniversary of the MOVIE A history Of, violence which

1195
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: came out in two thousand and. Five to twenty, anniversary

1196
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: this has been The france per second. Podcast we are.

1197
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: Out what did y'all watch?

1198
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 3: It