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Speaker 3: Oh no, this is horrible news that I can't believe.

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Speaker 3: We got to go on this this radio station and

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Speaker 1: Okay, In a horrible, horrible turn.

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Speaker 3: Of events, the government might have to do with a

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Speaker 3: little less so that you can afford to live in

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Speaker 2: Hamilton County Cities, they're making some budget cuts. They say

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Speaker 2: this is due to millions and lost projected revenue caused lost. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I said, they said lost.

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Speaker 1: That's where I said.

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Speaker 3: I always used to that was my favorite thing to

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Speaker 1: No, it's not lost.

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Speaker 3: You know exactly where it is. It's going back into

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Speaker 3: the pockets of the people who earned it. What a

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Speaker 2: So Carmel says that they face a ten million dollars

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Speaker 3: Okay, so government is the only Okay, So let's just

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Speaker 3: with our audience about what's going to happen. There is

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Speaker 3: nothing in the new property tax bill that stops property

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Speaker 3: And until you address assessments, which are what was causing

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Speaker 3: assessments continuing to rise. So that's number one. Let's let's

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Speaker 3: refute that right away number one. Number two, you're going

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Speaker 3: the ballot box turnstile to put these referendums forward because

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Speaker 1: So they'll end up.

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Speaker 3: Most of these people not quote unquote losing one damn dollar.

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Speaker 3: And on top of the referendum, you're gonna have the

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Speaker 3: All this stuff's going to happen. Your taxes are going

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Speaker 1: And this is the other question I asked that.

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Speaker 3: Of course they'll never answer at my own meeting, and

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Speaker 1: What did you do with all the money?

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Speaker 2: My property tax increased seventeen percent in the past year.

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Speaker 3: I'm all t million dollar taxpayer funded mistake. That's what

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Speaker 1: That's where all our money went.

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Speaker 3: So don't come to me crying now that you don't

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Speaker 3: fix it. They are amigos, they're Palaskis. How much money

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Speaker 3: has hanibled a county given envoy that that construction management

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Speaker 3: These people are disgusting. They're disgusting people. Manage your money better.

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Speaker 3: What did you do with all the money you've gotten?

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Speaker 3: And don't force the people to feel bad about getting

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Speaker 2: Okay, So in Noblesville they expect eight point two million

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Speaker 2: Yes, he has. He has asked his departments to limit

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Speaker 2: the twenty six budget increases to one percent.

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Speaker 1: Oh so they don't got our money.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so they expect to have less revenue coming in,

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Speaker 2: He said there would be no layoffs in Noblesville and

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Speaker 3: But okay, but what have the previous increases been. Let's

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Speaker 3: go back the past five years, pick your favorite thriving

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Speaker 3: none of these government people were losing their jobs, none

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Speaker 2: In Westfield, they say they're going to lose two million

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, let's just pick a number, right, because I

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the Westfield's budget is infinitely bigger, but fifty million.

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Speaker 3: Let's say you were at fifty million and then five

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Speaker 2: And their eyes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Like if you were playing.

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Speaker 3: The stock market and somebody said over three years or

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Speaker 3: They can never just go to go do their damn jobs.

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Speaker 3: Like everybody said, I'm not talking about the rank and

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Speaker 3: You better do more so that we can have a

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Speaker 2: They say they won't have any layoffs, but they will

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Speaker 2: Solidated purchasing.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have to buy things smarter. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: So what did we go?

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Speaker 1: This one's wild?

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Speaker 3: So the ramifications of you getting a fraction of your

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Speaker 3: gonna have to get rid of That's the ramification in

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Speaker 3: Westfield of you getting two hundred dollars back. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Fisher's really quick. Their mayor, Scott Fadness,

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Speaker 3: Okay, at least he's being honest. Now that was mister Covid.

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Speaker 3: COVID doesn't affect anybody until ten pm, isn't fat And

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Speaker 1: Because you know, Casey, COVID it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Affect anybody at nine fifty nine, but it gets very

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Speaker 2: It's magic virus like that. You can just hop right

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Speaker 2: around plexiglass too.

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Speaker 1: Did you know.

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Speaker 2: That that's just you do You know, when you're sitting

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Speaker 2: to put your mask on.

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Speaker 3: Now, think about this segment we just did, Casey, and

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Speaker 3: these are the people that our state government just placated.

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Speaker 3: To our governor who folded like a cheap like a

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Speaker 3: our governor said, you don't deserve anything, and in fact,

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Speaker 3: to make sure you don't get anything because we want

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Speaker 3: to lie to you until you're getting something. We're going

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Speaker 3: to enable the government to have new ways to be

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Speaker 3: able to take from you. I'll be able to take

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Speaker 3: from you like ever, never, never, ever before. These are

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Speaker 3: the people they're concerned about. This is the stuff they're

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Speaker 3: worried he's gonna stop.

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Speaker 2: Governor bron still claims the Sea One will lead to

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Speaker 2: tax savings for two thirds of Indiana homeowners and that

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Speaker 2: local governments can implement local income taxes to offset any losses.

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Speaker 3: Did you see that he met with our our well

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Speaker 3: meaning but mary very naive friends again at his taxpayer

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Speaker 3: funded mansion.

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Speaker 1: No, when did that happen?

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Speaker 3: This was somebody posted this yesterday, and I didn't really

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Speaker 3: hear any talk about his big plan for property tax

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Speaker 3: reform or local government reform, which I think he told

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Speaker 3: him he had an ace up his sleeve. I believe

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Speaker 3: was the phrase now org day, which is where everything

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Speaker 3: gets basically fleshed out in terms of here's what we're

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Speaker 3: gonna do that is less than two months away.

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Speaker 1: Casey.

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Speaker 3: So you would think if you had some big plan,

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Speaker 3: given the fact that you had a year and a

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Speaker 3: half the last time and you couldn't get anything done.

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Speaker 3: You'd think with the month and a half to go,

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Speaker 3: you'd really, we aren't selling that whatever that magic.

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Speaker 1: Ace up your sleeve is.

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Speaker 3: But hey, those people got to go to the governor's

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Speaker 3: mansion and get and get lied to, so they're happy.