1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: So we had Elon Musk last week at the in Davo, 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Switzerland talking about AI and the robots, and now just 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: this past weekend you had Popeleo the fourteenth coming out 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: warning against it, and he was very critical of the 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: emotionally responsive AI chatbots. He said they can intrude in 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: people's intimate lives, distort emotions, and potentially replace real world relationships. 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: And this is something that Pope Leo has been talking 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: about all along, is the lack of humanity. 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: This is going to be a fascinating conversation for the 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: next several years, because there was you know, Elon Musk 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: was in Davos and came out. He had a couple 12 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: of things that he said. Number One, he said that 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: within the next year AI will be smarter than the 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: smartest human alive. Correct, And in the next three years, 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: AI will be smarter than the combination of intelligence of 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: all humans on the planet. Scary prospect. You can hate 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: that all you want to, but that doesn't mean it's 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: not coming, whether you like it or not. The other 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: thing he said, there was a conversation when he was 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: being interviewed. They were talking about autonomous robots and Tesla 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: is building their optimists humanoid robots. Elon Musk said that 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: there's a possibility that the first autonomous robot could come 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: to market for the general public to purchase by the 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty six. So you've got the combination 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: here of extremely super smart AI and autonomous robots and 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: putting those two things together, and the Pope is out 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: there warning about the potential damage to human relationships that 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: could happen from this. This is coming. You can sit 29 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: and talk about, oh, I hate AI, and I hate 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: data centers, and I hate robots and I don't want 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: any of that stuff. That doesn't mean it doesn't mean 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: it's gonna stop. It is coming, whether you like it 33 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: or not. And how we deal with this. There's been, 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: you know, of course, the story the last three to 35 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: five years about the male loneliness epidetic and how young 36 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: men especially are having trouble fitting into society these days. 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: And here you've got a potential romantic companion at a 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: time when young men feel disassociated from society more than 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: they probably ever have. Those two things converging at the 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: exact same time are going to be a powerful issue 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: that all of us are going to have to grapple 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: with here in the next one two three years. 43 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Poplio said, the big challenge is to human identity, creativity, judgment, 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: and responsibility. Another thing that he was bringing up was 45 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: that there are a lot of risks from having just 46 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: a few companies controlling the algorithms and all of the 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: media companies that can influence behavior and distort the truth 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: at scale. And we kind of talked about this quickly 49 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: last week. Well, you've got Larry Ellison now, who is 50 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: controlling TikTok. So there's an algorithm that will be controlled 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: by one big conglomerate. 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And again what the Pope says is all well 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: and good, but what can be done. 54 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: About Well, he's urging regulation. See. 55 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: And the problem, and I've said this before too on 56 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: the show, is the problem with regulation of AI is 57 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: the good guys, let's assum with us in the United 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: States and Western culture are the good guys. The good 59 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: guys will be the only ones regulating it. The bad 60 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 2: guys aren't going to regulate it at all. And that's 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: going to be China and Russia, in Iran and North 62 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: Korea and any all of our enemies. They're not going 63 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: to regulate AI. It's going to be controlled by the state, sure, 64 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: but they're going to plow into it head first to 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: take full advantage and take everything out of it they can. 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: So the idea that all we have to do in 67 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: the West and in the United States is regulate AI 68 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: could very well end up putting us way behind our enemies.