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Speaker 2: To worry about.

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Speaker 2: We're working on it. Let's go. I got my people

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Speaker 1: It is time for a Thursday road trip, but this

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you got to drive all the way across Kansas.

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Speaker 1: the little statues they've built for me since I spent

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Speaker 1: a year there before I funked out. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean there's a lot to get to there.

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Speaker 1: But Nate Akins, formerly Indianapolis Star, now covers the Rams

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Speaker 1: joins us other side. We will get the Rams perspective

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Speaker 1: on this game coming up on Sunday out on the

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Speaker 1: West coast, and we'll do it next California, indeed where

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Speaker 1: we are headed. As a matter of fact, is I

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Speaker 1: have only mentioned four hundred and sixty four times on

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Speaker 1: this program whenever the Rams and the Colts play. It

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Speaker 1: should be pointed out that these two franchises at one

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Speaker 1: time were involved with an owner swap. By that, I

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Speaker 1: mean when Bob er Say, who was living in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: initially wanted to become an NFL owner, he bought the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams and then made a trade, an ownership

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Speaker 1: trade with the Rosenbloom family, who owned the Baltimore Colts,

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Speaker 1: and thus he became the owner of the Baltimore Colts

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Speaker 1: ultimately moved them to Indianapolis. Speaking of moves, Nate Atkins

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Speaker 1: from the Athletic out in Los Angeles, of course, formerly

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Speaker 1: with the Indianapolis Star, and it's just getting acclimated to

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Speaker 1: the West coast and covering the Rams. Who the Colts

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Speaker 1: will see this Sunday and he joins us now on

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Speaker 1: the program, Nate, welcome back to the Indianapolis airwaves.

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Speaker 3: How are you, joll well, Jake, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: It's cool to get to talk about, you know, one

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Speaker 3: team that I'm getting to know, one team that I

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Speaker 3: knew for the past four years. And nice to have

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Speaker 3: a big game too. I did not expect the Colts

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Speaker 3: to be three in l but it's real nice of

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Speaker 3: them to get good right as I have to be.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you if you get homesick at all,

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Speaker 1: and I can't what is your hometown, Nate, where did

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Speaker 1: you grow up?

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Speaker 3: I Assland, Ohio, which about an hour south of Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Home of Tim Richmond. By the way, I think we

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Speaker 1: might have discussed that, but so so, if you get

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Speaker 1: homesick for Indianapolis, though, just a little tip here and

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Speaker 1: then we can get to football. What I have found

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Speaker 1: is when you're in the Los Angeles area, if you

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Speaker 1: walk the Santa Monica Pier and just take a look

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Speaker 1: at the Pacific Ocean, it does kind of feel like

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Speaker 1: you're at Wolfe's at Geist.

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Speaker 3: So just so you know, okay, yeah, that was my

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Speaker 3: first thought when I got out there. So I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you what it's like. You move all the way out

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Speaker 3: here and you're really in the same place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in the weather as well. Right, let's begin

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Speaker 1: with this from the Rams standpoint and any point of

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Speaker 1: this out. I was looking at it more yesterday and

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Speaker 1: it is of interest to me. Matthew Stafford, who is

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Speaker 1: obviously a big armed, strong armed quarterback, he has thrown

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Speaker 1: the majority of his passes to this point. Now it's

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Speaker 1: early in the year, but you know, DeVante Adams and

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Speaker 1: pugun Akua, the two guys that are catching the majority

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Speaker 1: of past Is that simply a familiarity thing or are

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Speaker 1: the Rams at this point limiting themselves of is there

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Speaker 1: a reason why they're not spreading the wealth so to speak?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's well. With Puka Nakod's definitely familiarity.

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Speaker 3: He has really been a star since he came in

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Speaker 3: the league two years ago and played every game with

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Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford and he's averaged more than ninety yards in

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Speaker 3: those games, and so that one has been building. And

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Speaker 3: then DeVante Adams is just the guy that they went

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Speaker 3: out in the off season to get to replace Cooper

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Speaker 3: Cup and become that other high volume player, and they're

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Speaker 3: trying to build that in games since they didn't get

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Speaker 3: a chance to really in training camp. Matthew Stafford missed

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Speaker 3: basically all of it with this back issue, and so

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Speaker 3: they don't get a lot of practice reps because DeVante

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Speaker 3: Adams always takes Wednesdays off and so they're working through

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Speaker 3: some things in games. But also, like Stafford has always

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Speaker 3: been a high wide receiver type quarterback over the tight ends.

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Speaker 3: That's that goes back to when I saw him in Detroit.

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Speaker 3: He would just pepper those wide receivers and and so

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Speaker 3: the more that he throws to those two and the

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Speaker 3: more that it works, the more it builds trust and

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Speaker 3: it's harder for others to cut into that. What he

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Speaker 3: could really use is a pass catching running back because

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Speaker 3: he's had that in his past. They just don't have

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Speaker 3: that here. They just have guys that are just here

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Speaker 3: to run the ball. But they're eventually going to have

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Speaker 3: to diversify it a little bit because if one of

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Speaker 3: those guys gets hurt, they just don't have anything really

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Speaker 3: built up around him. And it's it's kind of mystifying

517
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Speaker 3: to some people here because they paid two to two

518
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Speaker 3: at well ten million dollars to be a receiver and

519
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Speaker 3: he's barely playing. They drafted Terence Ferguson, a tight end

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Speaker 3: out of Oregon in the second round and they've he's

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Speaker 3: played four snaps on the season, so they're not really

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Speaker 3: using the other investments that they have, and so far

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Speaker 3: it's it's worked for the passing game to just go

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Speaker 3: to these two. But you do wonder how sustainable it

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Speaker 3: is in how how they keep everyone healthy, because Devanta

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Speaker 3: Adams now do with a hamstring issue and Stafford is

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Speaker 3: on pace right now to become the first quarterback in

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Speaker 3: twenty five years to throw seventy nine percent or more

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Speaker 3: of his passes to wide receivers. So you just wonder

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Speaker 3: how long that can really hold up. But so far,

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Speaker 3: when those guys have been on the field, it's worked

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Speaker 3: quite well. So that's why they keep going to it

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Speaker 3: and Nate.

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Speaker 1: When you look at, you know, statistically speaking, the average

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Speaker 1: yardage per play when Stafford is completing to those two guys,

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Speaker 1: you know you're into like the eleven to fifteen yards

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Speaker 1: per per catch area. Now, I guess my question for

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Speaker 1: you would be, is that yard after catch receiver during

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Speaker 1: the doing the work stuff, or does Stafford, who is

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Speaker 1: and has been one of the strongest arms in league history,

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Speaker 1: but he's older and he's coming you know, he's had

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Speaker 1: injuries and et cetera. Is he now a rhythm passer

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Speaker 1: and the and he's getting them in rhythm where they're

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Speaker 1: then in space, or does he still have the deep

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Speaker 1: ball precision aspect of his game that he had as

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Speaker 1: a younger player.

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Speaker 3: It's sort of of a mix of that where he's

548
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Speaker 3: not going deep down the field all that often, but

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Speaker 3: he's really going to that intermediate level. And so that

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Speaker 3: really happens with DeVante Adams, which is why his his

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Speaker 3: catch rate isn't quite asized.

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Speaker 2: Puka Tokus.

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Speaker 3: They really try and get these chunk plays, and they

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Speaker 3: got one for forty four yards on Sunday, But usually

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Speaker 3: these are kind of between i'd say fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 3: five yards is where they run a lot of those routes,

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Speaker 3: and Pukina Coup is more the guy that will settle

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Speaker 3: at like ten yards, catch it and then do something

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Speaker 3: with the ball in his hands, you know, yards after contact.

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Speaker 3: So Stafford mostly has the He has the same arm

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Speaker 3: strength he's always had from what I can tell. What's

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Speaker 3: a little different now is that he's trying to throw

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Speaker 3: the ball before he gets touched in any capacity because

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Speaker 3: he's thirty seven. He has the back issue, so he's

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Speaker 3: not standing in there and throwing well taking a hit

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Speaker 3: the way he used to, and so he'll let it

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Speaker 3: out a little quicker than that he used to when

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Speaker 3: he would go weed deep down the field. And they're

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Speaker 3: hoping that the kind of the spacing of everything can

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Speaker 3: let guys either catch it intermediate or in Pucas case,

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Speaker 3: catch it and do something with the ball afterwards. So

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Speaker 3: it's it's been it's been really fun to watch them

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Speaker 3: transition this offense to you know, having Stafford in this

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Speaker 3: place where it's still the same arm, but he's he's

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Speaker 3: just trying so hard not to get touched, and their

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Speaker 3: pass protetion has not been all that good so far.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of rushed it a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: But these guys are getting open so much in that

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Speaker 3: intermediate part of the field that it's still working to

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Speaker 3: release the ball pretty quickly and he's got the velocity

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Speaker 3: to still kind of get it to where he needs

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Speaker 3: to get it right now. So it's it's a real

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Speaker 3: intermediate part of the field type offense.

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Speaker 1: Who's the biggest celebrity that you have serendipitously run into

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Speaker 1: in and around Los Angeles?

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Speaker 3: Well, my first day it is so far. I got

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Speaker 3: in the elevator with Brad Beale, So that's probably the

588
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Speaker 3: biggest one so far. Clippers just signed Brad Beale and he,

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Speaker 3: you know, he interestingly enough, grew up in Saint Louis,

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Speaker 3: so he's a Rams fan from back then. But mostly

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Speaker 3: I've just been to the facility and back. It have

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Speaker 3: to be Rams players if it's not Brad Beal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now what about this? You live?

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Speaker 1: How far from the facility? And the reason I ask

595
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Speaker 1: is because how long does it take you to get there?

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Speaker 1: If you're in rush hour traffic?

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Speaker 3: Rush hour traffic, it's going to take over an hour.

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Speaker 3: But it's three weeks, right, Yeah, Usually I get to

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Speaker 3: avoid it. They press it in the kind of the

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Speaker 3: early afternoons. It takes about thirty five minutes. I get

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Speaker 3: if I get lucky.

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Speaker 1: You know that the stadium is for those that are

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Speaker 1: and maybe people from here are going to be going

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Speaker 1: out because the stadium is unbelievable. It's near Inglewood, sent

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Speaker 1: it's not far from Lax. It's it's fascinating because when

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Speaker 1: you drive past it, you literally can almost And I'm Nate,

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Speaker 1: I'm being totally serious when I say this. I've wondered

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Speaker 1: if it hasn't impacted traffic in LA on a game

609
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Speaker 1: day because if the window or whatever it is is open,

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Speaker 1: like you can see on the video board, you can

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Speaker 1: watch the game while you're driving past it. It's crazy, right,

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Speaker 1: So it's a phenomenal facility. And with that for people

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Speaker 1: that are going out, I mean, LA's awesome, right, But

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Speaker 1: they're going to see what from the Rams defensively when

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Speaker 1: we watch this game, because you know, right now, Daniel

616
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Speaker 1: Jones is in rhythm, they are Shane Stikeen is calling

617
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: it masterfully. They're taking care of the football. But the

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Speaker 1: Rams defensively this year have done what.

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Speaker 3: So what's unique about the Rams is just how good

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Speaker 3: they are with a four man pass rush, which I

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Speaker 3: think is gonna be really key this week when you

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Speaker 3: look at the numbers of how the Colts are handling

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Speaker 3: teams that blitz them. That was Denver's problem in Week

624
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Speaker 3: two is that even though they have talent in the

625
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Speaker 3: pass rush, they looked at Daniel Jones' career numbers going

626
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Speaker 3: back to the Times the Giants, and thought, you blitz

627
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Speaker 3: this guy, You'll get in his head, you'll affect him,

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Speaker 3: you'll create turnovers. And instead the Colts have all these

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Speaker 3: answers because they have so many guys to get the

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Speaker 3: ball to with Tyler Warren's edition, in addition to they're

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Speaker 3: receiving Court even Job and Taylor catching passes.

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Speaker 2: So I think the Rams are.

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Speaker 3: Going to do it differently where they're going to mostly

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Speaker 3: rush four players. They will blitz the safety on occasion,

635
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Speaker 3: I promise that, but they're there. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 3: dial that back and just try and do it at

637
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Speaker 3: moments when they hope that Daniel Jones doesn't see it,

638
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Speaker 3: because they've got enough of a pass rush already with

639
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Speaker 3: Jared versus the big name, the reigning defensive Rookie of

640
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: the Year, on one side, but Byron Young is really

641
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: ascended at the other. And then they've got names like

642
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: a rookie Josiah Stewart, Kobe Turner, Braden Fisk. They're just

643
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Speaker 3: gonna mix and match these guys in the four man

644
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Speaker 3: pass rush, and you'll see them overload one side. You'll

645
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Speaker 3: see them flip the matchups between Verse and Byron Young

646
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Speaker 3: on the left and the right side. So they're gonna

647
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Speaker 3: move guys around so that they kind of get fresh matchups,

648
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Speaker 3: and that's gonna be the unpredictability, but it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: less so through the blitz because they also really have

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Speaker 3: to hang up and coverage. When they lost their top

651
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Speaker 3: outside cornerback Kelly Witherspoon. That is the weakest spot on

652
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: this team is those outside cornerback spots, and so I

653
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: think that's why they're also praying that they don't have

654
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Speaker 3: to see Alec Pierce this week because last week the

655
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Speaker 3: duo of a G Brown Devatas Smith that ended up

656
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Speaker 3: winning the Eagles of the game down the stretch, that

657
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: those matchups aren't in their favor, but against most teams,

658
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: their hope is that the pass rush is enough to

659
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Speaker 3: kind of overwhelm teams just with four men in rush,

660
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Speaker 3: and then they've got kind of three safeties that they'll

661
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Speaker 3: play as their nickel package and move those guys around

662
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Speaker 3: to kind of try to keep a lid on things.

663
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Speaker 3: And so really a lot of this game I think

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Speaker 3: is going to come down to that matchup between the

665
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Speaker 3: Rams pass rush and just how much the Colts offensive

666
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Speaker 3: line can hold up against it. They can give Daniel

667
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: Jones time he can exploit those outside corners, but I

668
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: do think this will be the best pass russ that

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Speaker 3: the Colts have faced so far.

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Speaker 1: Nate Atkins is our guest here. He's on the guest

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Speaker 1: line and of course with the Athletic out in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: formerly with the Indianapols star covering the Colts. Nate, I

673
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Speaker 1: wanted to get your thoughts on this. This is THEO

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: the fourth NFL franchise that you have covered. You have

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Speaker 1: covered the Bears, you've covered the Lions, you've covered the Colts,

677
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Speaker 1: and now the rank Ms. So with that, so you know,

678
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Speaker 1: now that I think about it, you're like halfway to

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Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz trio right in terms of how

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Speaker 1: you've covered. But having said that, now that you've had

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Speaker 1: a chance to kind of compare and contrast or see

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Speaker 1: various operations, how did the Indianapolis Colts in terms of

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Speaker 1: just the infrastructure of the franchise, the way they go

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Speaker 1: about their business, all things considered, how did they compare

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Speaker 1: or contrast to other franchises you have covered.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the interesting thing is two of the last

687
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Speaker 3: three that I've covered have had Matthew Stafford at quarterback.

688
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Speaker 3: And I found that that is really the glaring difference

689
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Speaker 3: from my time with the Colts is that when especially

690
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: now I see this at the Rams. They just lost

691
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Speaker 3: the game on Sunday. That was heartbreaking and infuriating when

692
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Speaker 3: they had a twenty six to seven lead and they

693
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Speaker 3: couldn't finish. But their response was really a lot more

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00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: positive than I was expecting. You know, they wanted to win,

695
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Speaker 3: but they felt like, this is week three, We leveled

696
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Speaker 3: up to a really good team, fell a little bit short,

697
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Speaker 3: but we'll see them again. There's such a confidence that

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00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: they will be in that moment, and there's a confidence

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Speaker 3: when they're down too, because of the quarterback that they have.

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Speaker 3: And I just think the Colts didn't ever really get that,

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Speaker 3: you know, when I was there, even when things were

702
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Speaker 3: going pretty well, you know, with Gardner Minshew's season and

703
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Speaker 3: they almost made the playoffs at times when you know

704
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: they would nine got to nine and six. The first

705
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: year I was there with Carson Wentz, like they had

706
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Speaker 3: some good teams, but they didn't ever feel like the

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Speaker 3: reason they were good was the quarterback. And that's the

708
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Speaker 3: difference here. It was the difference in Detroit. And so

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Speaker 3: I think that kind of kind of sums up everything,

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Speaker 3: is that there's just sort of an everyday, every moment

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00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: confidence and belief when you step in a building and

712
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: you don't have questions about first of all, who's even

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Speaker 3: gonna start at quarterback, but second of all, like what

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Speaker 3: that guy can do as a leader and as a

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Speaker 3: player out there. The Colts when I was there, had

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Speaker 3: this weird mix of like they would either get they

717
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: got you know, solid the decent play out of Gardner

718
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: Minshew quarterback, and it's times from Carson Wentz. But you know,

719
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Speaker 3: Carson Wentz was never really that guy for the franchise,

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Speaker 3: that leader type. And then when they went after the

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Speaker 3: leader type and Matt Ryan, you know, he didn't have

722
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Speaker 3: to play anymore. You know, at his age and his

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Speaker 3: level that he was at right now. The Rams, for

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Speaker 3: as long as they can keep Stafford healthy, they feel

725
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Speaker 3: like they've got both. And when you feel like you

726
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Speaker 3: have both, just a totally different feel coming off of losses.

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Speaker 3: It's a different feel when you are down in games.

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Speaker 3: They just feel like they're going to be in all

729
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: these moments, and so they that gives you confidence that

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Speaker 3: even when you struggle, even when you have really bad

731
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Speaker 3: moments like two blocked field goals like the Rams just had,

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Speaker 3: they can go after kind of these improvements in very

733
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Speaker 3: specific areas, knowing we're going to be in the big games,

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Speaker 3: We're going to have a shot at the end of

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Speaker 3: the game. I don't think the Colt necessarily had that,

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Speaker 3: And I think what also you find out is that

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Speaker 3: teams often will take on the personality of either the

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Speaker 3: head coach of the quarterback, and usually both, and so

739
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Speaker 3: when the quarterback is changing so much, just gets really

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Speaker 3: hard for a team to have an identity. And I

741
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Speaker 3: just felt that all the time with the Colts is

742
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: that they couldn't really figure out what kind of team

743
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Speaker 3: they wanted to be where they were this great rushing

744
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: team in twenty twenty one until that fizzled out. But

745
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Speaker 3: the more that the spotlight went on the quarterback and

746
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Speaker 3: the more that that position just kept changing, there just

747
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Speaker 3: was a lot of confusion and a in kind of

748
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: a lacking belief about kind of the elverall upside. So

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Speaker 3: there was a kind of a comfort level in Indy

750
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Speaker 3: because you know, they kept the same general manager and

751
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: a lot of the players would you know, they'd run

752
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 3: it back, and so there was sort of like this

753
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: baseline culture of like, we played together for a long

754
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: time and we'll be together. But there wasn't necessarily this

755
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: belief in, like, you know what the ultimate upside's going

756
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: to be. Whereas the Rams come off a game they

757
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: lose the Eagles and they say, okay, well we'll be

758
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: back here and we'll have to take our shot again

759
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: against these guys. And I don't think it's just talk

760
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Speaker 3: from them. I think that's what they actually believe because

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Speaker 3: that's how their season ended last year. And so there's

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Speaker 3: just sort of a mix of a tracker kord of

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Speaker 3: a team that's won with a quarterback who's done it

764
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Speaker 3: at a lot of levels and keeps doing it, and

765
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Speaker 3: the Colts have been looking to get back to that,

766
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Speaker 3: and who knows, maybe they'll get there with Daniel Jones now,

767
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: but that's what they've been seeking so much. I just

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Speaker 3: feel like the quarterback. Yeah, we talk about it so

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00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 3: much in Indie because on the field it matters so much.

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Speaker 3: But I've also found like every single walking, waking moment

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Speaker 3: in a building goes back to that position too, And

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Speaker 3: that's that's the kind of the biggest difference I've seen

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Speaker 3: between those teams.

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Speaker 1: Biggest thing that Shane Styken has preached operationally, the quarterback

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Speaker 1: is the guy that has to have a firm understanding

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Speaker 1: above and beyond just in the huddle. And I think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, at no disrespect to Anthony Richardson, you are

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Speaker 1: seeing now the reasons why Daniel Jones was the selected

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Speaker 1: quarterback for Shane Styke and Nate Atkins with The Athletic

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Speaker 1: covering the Rams, Rams and Colts on Sunday, Nate, good

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Speaker 1: talking to you, man, I appreciate it. Enjoy LA all right, yep,

782
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 1: thanks for having me, Nate Adkins joining us on the program.

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Speaker 1: LA is awesome. By the way, I would love to

784
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Speaker 1: live in La now. In terms of that, he touched

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Speaker 1: on something very interesting there operationally and the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: the fact that you can see it throughout the entire building.

787
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Speaker 1: Sometimes when you have the guy that's not the guy,

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Speaker 1: even other coaches can see it. And that was the

789
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: case a year ago for Indianapolis. I'll explain and I'll

790
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Speaker 1: let you hear what. You're gonna be surprised what one coach.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised that he said it about the Colts

792
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Speaker 1: quarterbacking situation from a year ago. But we'll play you

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Speaker 1: clips from an NFL coach regarding the Colts, and we'll

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Speaker 1: do it in about twelve minutes from now, and then

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Speaker 1: one thirty Mike Nysilik from the Bloomington Herald Times. Because

796
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: there was big news in Indiana in the courtroom, not

797
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Speaker 1: just on the football field. We'll get to that bottom

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Speaker 1: of the hour. NFL talk coming up, quarterbacking position for

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Speaker 1: the Colts. Top of the hour here, Eddie. Last night

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Speaker 1: it was a kind of a flurry of and this

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00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: happens every year, obviously, but down the stretch now in

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball and the Reds. Did you watch the

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Speaker 1: Reds game last night?

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00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: No? Why are you torturing me?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm watching it, and I'm like, you know,

806
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: and I'm keeping an eye on the Mets and what

807
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 1: the Mets are doing and the Cubs are helping out.

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00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking. Last night I called my buddy Eric

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Speaker 1: Ritchie that used to work at Fox fifty nine, lives

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Great dude, and Eric Ritchie is the

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00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: biggest Reds fan I've ever met.

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00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: And I am a.

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Speaker 1: I'm the first to admit I'm kind of a I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm a Reds fan. Yeah, but I'm not like the

816
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: diehard watch every single game fan. But I asked Eric,

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Speaker 1: and I'm curious your thought on this, Eddie, because you

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Speaker 1: are a Reds fan.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: Painfully, I think the answer to the question I'm about

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Speaker 1: to ask is largely dependent upon age. Okay, who is

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Reds rival?

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00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: I don't have one anymore.

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00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: Who would you say it is or has been? Cardinals?

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00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: See here's the problem with that, I know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the problem with saying it's the Cardinals is you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: meet any Cardinal fan that says.

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Speaker 2: It's the Reds. I probably would disagree, just because there

829
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Speaker 2: have been some bad blood between the two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get I mean, some of the Yaddy Molina stuff,

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Speaker 1: I get it. But I think, having covered the Cardinals

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00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: that lived in Saint Louis, it's the Cubs and it's

833
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: not close. I mean that like they I don't know

834
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Speaker 1: why the Cubs and Cardinals. It's you know what I mean. Yeah,

835
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Speaker 1: but again based on age. I mean, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: you're totally wrong here. For me personally, when I consider

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Speaker 1: the kind of the last blow in the blow up

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Speaker 1: of the Big Red Machine and then the ninety NLCS

839
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Speaker 1: and the Quato game more recently, and then like even

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Speaker 1: going into yesterday, just because both franchises have kind of

841
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: been mired to mediocrity, I think it's somewhat.

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00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: The Pirates for the Reds. Yes, no, but.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Who's so who's the Pirates' rival?

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Speaker 2: Nobody? Because they're never good.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what I'm saying is historically speaking, historically speaking for

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Speaker 1: the Reds, I think you would say, if you want

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Speaker 1: to go with the bigger Red Machine, I mean, you

848
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: could throw in like the Yankees of the Athletics, because

849
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: if you go back, especially to the early seventies, the

850
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: Athletics were the dominant team in the American League the

851
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: Reds and the National League. The A's were the team

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00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: that had facial hair and long hair, and you know,

853
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: the Reds were the team that was didn't allow that

854
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: and all looked like they were math teachers and you

855
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: know whatever else. So ideologically there were differences between those

856
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: two franchises. But for the Reds now because they have

857
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: not been very good, like in my lifetime. If there's

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Speaker 1: one the reason I say the Pirates is because the

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00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: Pirates are a team kind of without a rival, so

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Speaker 1: they would probably say I think there are a lot

861
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Speaker 1: of Pirates fans that would say how much they don't

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00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: like the Reds because of seventy nine and ninety and

863
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: the Quato game and all of that. But last night

864
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: is a prime example though, of here the Reds have

865
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: an opportunity, and yet the Pirates, even though they're terrible,

866
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: it's like the one team they can't get past.

867
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 2: You know, They've had an opportunity in the last two nights,

868
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: I know, and they lost. Jake Oo. I mean, you

869
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: need to calm down, you need to need a WUSA.

870
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: I'll be fine.

871
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: Speaking of Pittsburgh, something that was recently said about the

872
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: Colts from there that caught my ear. I was surprised,

873
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: but not totally. We'll play it for you next. Several

874
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: ways to contact us. Somebody says, I'm a Cards fan, Jake,

875
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: it would be Cubs first, then Reds. I think it's

876
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: largely the Cardinals are an interesting franchise because there are

877
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: several teams and this is a testament to the Cardinals.

878
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: There are several teams that would tell you that the

879
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: team they hate most first is Cardinals. But for the Cardinals,

880
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's definitely the Cubs, and that's geographic.

881
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: The Cardinals for so long have had really no peer

882
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: when it comes to the overall depth of tradition within

883
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: the National League. But two three, nine, ten to seventy

884
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: is how you can both text the show and vocally

885
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: joined the show.

886
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: And because Cubs fans find Cardinals fans insufferable, and.

887
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: Yes vice versa. Yes, well, I think here's the thing

888
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: that's stupid.

889
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 2: Fly the W and the Cubs go.

890
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: Cardinals fans. Okay, Cubs fans tire of as does every

891
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: normal sports fan in America. They tire of the high

892
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: brow snobbery of the Cardinal fan base, and Cardinal fans

893
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: tire of the the envy they have for the fact

894
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: that the Cubs are centered around not their baseball tradition,

895
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: but their party tradition.

896
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: We're baseball purists. We understand the game and we actually

897
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: applaud a bunch and the sacrifice because we understand.

898
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: Whereas Cubs are like, you know, wooo, bring me another

899
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: old style. Before we get to what took place yesterday,

900
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: I believe it was in Pittsburgh. In regards to comments

901
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: about the Colts quarterback position, I do have this question

902
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: for you, Eddie, and that is if I was going

903
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: to tell you right now, okay that you get I'm

904
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: going to give you round trip tickets for your birthday

905
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: to go to an NFL game this weekend. And I'm

906
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: not talking about the place where you most want to

907
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: enjoy the city. I'm saying like, we're going to fly

908
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: you in just just to experience the crowd, the stadium,

909
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: the atmosphere, and also just the matchup, a matchup that's

910
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: intriguing to you that you're like, you know what, that

911
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: might be a fun game to watch. I'm going to

912
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: read for you quickly this weekend's matchups. I want you

913
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: to tell me the Marquee one and there's a reason

914
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm getting to this. Okay, Seattle at Arizona, Washington at Atlanta,

915
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: Cleveland at Detroit, Carolina at New England, Philadelphia at Tampa,

916
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: Jacksonville at San Francisco, Chicago in Vegas, the Jets in Miami,

917
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: Minnesota at Pittsburgh, New Orleans at Buffalo, Tennessee at Houston,

918
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: the Rams at the Giants, excuse me, the Chargers at

919
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: the Giants, Baltimore in Kansas City, Green Bay and Dallas

920
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati and Denver. Which game is the one that

921
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: you're like, That would be an awesome atmosphere, great game, fun,

922
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: intriguing to watch, love to see the stadium, love to

923
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: enjoy the fans, etc.

924
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: Looks like I'm going to Arrowhead.

925
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Now that game and Arrowhead intriguing because not only

926
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: do you have two teams that are you know, that

927
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: could be a separation Sunday type game. One of those

928
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: two teams is going to be one in three take

929
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: unless they tie, which is crazy, right. Yeah, both of

930
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: those teams are where they are and have the reputation

931
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: they do based on elite quarterback play. Obviously, it goes

932
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: without saying. And even at one in three, both of them,

933
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: you feel like still have a chance to rebound and

934
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: save their season based on the fact of their quarterback.

935
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is having a honestly a historically great start

936
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: to the season.

937
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes.

938
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes goes without saying quarterback is the most important

939
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: position the National Football League. Quarterback is the most important

940
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: position in sports.

941
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: It is.

942
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: Yes, it helps in baseball to have a dominant ace pitcher,

943
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: but that impacts you every fifth game. It helps you

944
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: to have a dominant home run and for average hitting

945
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: center fielder that can range all across the place, but

946
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: that impacts you every two and a half to three

947
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: innings at bat and maybe one or two plays defensively

948
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: per inning. In basketball, yes, it is so critically important

949
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: to have a dynamic guard that can see the floor,

950
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: run the floor, score for multiple areas. Tyrese Haliburton obviously is,

951
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: but they're not necessarily on the floor for the entire game.

952
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: But they also have to play defense. I mean, there's

953
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: so many aspects to it. The quarterback is the most

954
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: important position in the National Football League. And what is

955
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: so fascinating is that the Colts, obviously in the draft

956
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: of Anthony Richardson. We knew that what they were going

957
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: to do was try to groom that quarterback into being

958
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: the guy. And I understand why they were so intrigued.

959
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: I do, because there were just so many things that

960
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: were so fascinating and intriguing about Anthony Richardson, the size,

961
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: the athleticism, the arm strength, all of it.

962
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: And yet.

963
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: When they brought in Daniel Jones, the thought process was

964
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: they are bringing him in, Daniel Jones as a safety

965
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: net backup, but to wake up Anthony Richardson to say, look, kid,

966
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: we realized that we handed you the keys, but we

967
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: got another guy that can play, and we're not afraid

968
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: to put potentially go to him if you don't start

969
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: to kind of figure things out. And I figured things out.

970
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean yes, reading a defense or seeing the blitz

971
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: that came in preseason game number one, you know that

972
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: dislocated his finger. But more so, and I want to

973
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: be clear here, none of this makes Anthony Richardson a

974
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: bad person. None of this makes Anthony Richardson for that matter,

975
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: a you know, a bad quarterback, but it denies him

976
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: the chance to be a better quarterback. And by that

977
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, leadership is an interesting thing. I

978
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: don't know. Leadership is one aspect in any walk of life,

979
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: whether it be in your circle of friends, whether it

980
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: be in business, whether it be in sports. Leadership is

981
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: something that I don't know necessarily that you can teach it.

982
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: Either have it or you don't.

983
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: You know.

984
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: My mom was a preschool teacher. My birthday is the

985
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: first week in September, and when I was of the

986
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: age of enrolling in kindergarten, my parents had the option

987
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: of either holding me back because I was in that

988
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: one week gray area, advancing me and having me be

989
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: one of the older kids in my grade, or delaying

990
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: me a year and having me be one of the

991
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: younger kids in my grade. And my mom, being a teacher,

992
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: said I went ahead and enrolled you early because or

993
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: not early, I'm sorry, waiting until the next year where

994
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: I was the oldest in my grade, because she said,

995
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: I just noticed with boys at a young age, you

996
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: tend to be less a follower when you're the older

997
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 1: amongst your peers, when you were at an influential age.

998
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: That's not to say that I was that I took

999
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: advantage of that, but what I'm saying is there are

1000
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: things circum substantially around you at a very young age.

1001
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: That can determine whether or not you're like a leader

1002
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: or a follower, or whether you're passive or aggressive. And

1003
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: in Anthony Richardson's case, number one, the fact that he

1004
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: was very young, very young for his grade for that matter,

1005
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: and also some of the resources that he didn't have

1006
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: in high school. I just think that when he got

1007
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: to the NFL, there was the expectation that he was

1008
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: naturally a leader because he'd been a quarterback, But he

1009
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: hadn't been a quarterback of a lot of games, and

1010
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: he hadn't necessarily and I don't know that you can

1011
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: even grow into that. And what we saw, we started

1012
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: hearing the rumblings of just not doing the things inside

1013
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: the building. You just heard Nate Atkins talking about that.

1014
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: When you look at the other franchises that Nate has covered,

1015
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford being with the Lions and now with

1016
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: the Rams, and seeing that and seeing what happens when

1017
00:52:55,239 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback that literally always has the book

1018
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: in his hand, you know, the playbook in his hand

1019
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: going into the film rooms, the first one in there,

1020
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: just has a natural leadership about him and a lot

1021
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: of that comes from extensive time just naturally a byproduct

1022
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: of coming in with the pedigree of I played a

1023
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: big time program. I won a lot of games in college.

1024
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: I had to have a team on my shoulder pads

1025
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: at times. And I don't know that Richardson had any

1026
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: of that. But you wondered if other coaches noticed it.

1027
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: You wonder if when Shane Steichen was implying that the

1028
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: Colts needed a change at the quarterback position, those of

1029
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: us on the outside looked at it and said, but

1030
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: he's got a huge arm. He look at what he

1031
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: can do when he runs the football. Look At just

1032
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: how the touch that at times he can use. But

1033
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: at the same time to throw off his back foot

1034
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: to Alec Pierce right in stride from sixty five yards.

1035
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: Those things that we looked at, we said, that's the guy.

1036
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: But people that know football will tell you, but there

1037
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: wasn't a natural leadership there, and that's what Shane Steichen

1038
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: was trying to tell us. Mike Tomlin is the head

1039
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh this weekend is getting

1040
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: ready to take on the Minnesota Vikings, and Carson Wentz,

1041
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: speaking of Colts quarterbacks, Carson Wentz, Carson Wentz filling in

1042
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: for JJ McCarthy, a young player that is in Minnesota.

1043
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: And Mike Tomlin was talking about the fact that now

1044
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: instead of going up against a guy and JJ McCarthy

1045
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: that they don't know whether or not and yes, he

1046
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: led his team in college to a national championship. One

1047
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: would assume there's something about McCarthy, who even sat in

1048
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: year number one because of injury, So a little bit

1049
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: different circumstance. But you now have a veteran quarterback that

1050
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: you are facing in the form of Carson Wentz versus

1051
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: a younger quarterback that you thought you were going to see.

1052
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: And a year ago the Steelers played the Colts and

1053
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: they knew that there were two quarterbacks for the Colts.

1054
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: There was Anthony Richardson, the young player that was still

1055
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: learning the position, and Joe Flacco and Mike Tomlin, in

1056
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: discussing the preference of almost rather seeing a young player

1057
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: versus a Carson Wentz coming up on Sunday, made reference

1058
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: to a year ago and made an interesting comment as

1059
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: it relates to Anthony Richardson, we.

1060
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: Were in a similar situation a year ago.

1061
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 4: We're playing in Indianapolis Man, and I commented to the

1062
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 4: guys that you know, keep Richeson upright, don't put Flacco

1063
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 4: in the game.

1064
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: And you know, Flacco ended up in the game.

1065
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: Okay, And the Colts won that game. And it's an

1066
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: interesting comment that Mike Tomlin was able to see from

1067
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: the other side, from outside, a guy who's been around

1068
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: the league for a long time won a Super Bowl.

1069
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin one of the elder statesman coaches and more

1070
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: respected coaches in the National Football League. And Mike Tomlin

1071
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: was able to tell his guys, make sure Anthony Richardson

1072
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: is upright and in the game, because we'd rather see

1073
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson than Joe Flacco. There is not a soul

1074
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: on the planet that would consider the aging body of

1075
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco to be a more intriguing quarterback prospect than

1076
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. But an opposing coach was able to look

1077
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: at it and say, I'd rather see Anthony Richardson on

1078
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: the field than have them bring in Joe Flacco. Now,

1079
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 1: the one thing about this that doesn't necessarily hold water

1080
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: is this, in that game a year ago, which was

1081
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: won by the Colts, Anthony Richardson led the Colts right

1082
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 1: out of the gate on an eight play seventy yard

1083
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: drive right down the field, and then on the second

1084
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: drive after they were up seven to nothing, Indianapolis went

1085
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: up fourteen on a drive that largely was responsible by

1086
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: anthe or held and driven by Anthony Richardson. He got

1087
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: hurt then and Flacco came in. But Richardson at the

1088
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: time that he left the game had carried the ball

1089
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: three times for twenty four yards and he was I

1090
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: believe three of four through the air. Flacco comes in,

1091
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: goes sixteen of twenty six, did throw for a pair

1092
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: of touchdowns and a rating of one O five point nine,

1093
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: but Richardson was on his way to one of his

1094
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: better performances. And even with that, Mike Tomlin was saying,

1095
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: flaccos that came in and that's why they won that game.

1096
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: That is a coach, even though statistically speaking, in that

1097
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: game it doesn't really hold water. What that means is

1098
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: an opposing coach and looking at film and in studying

1099
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: that team, could see that Indianapolis was most vulnerable when

1100
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson was on the field, and that to me

1101
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: is an indictment not on Richardson, as a person, but

1102
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: on his inability to consistently lead and carry his team.

1103
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: And what Daniel Jones has done is he has come

1104
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: in here and he's not an overly excitable guy. I

1105
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: don't know a whole lot about Daniel Jones. I don't

1106
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: think a lot of people in this town know a

1107
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: whole lot about Daniel Jones. Do we know what he

1108
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: likes to do for fun? Do we know what kind

1109
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: of food? I mean, this is like almost robotic. But

1110
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: he has come in and I don't think instantaneously won

1111
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: over his locker room. I think there are a lot

1112
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: of people in the Colts locker room that really liked

1113
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson as the quarterback and rallied behind Anthony Richardson.

1114
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: And even when Richardson got benched a year ago, there

1115
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: seemed to be like this. And then you started having

1116
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: players say like, we have no direction, we don't know

1117
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: what's going on. It seemed like the rally behind Anthony

1118
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: Richardson was actually indicative of an immature locker room that

1119
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: was dangerously falling behind somebody that wasn't naturally leading them.

1120
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: And Shane Steiken, who is thought of as a quarterback

1121
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: whispering coach and a guy that can bring the best

1122
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: out of quarterbacks. I think Shane Steiken recognized and realized

1123
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: that Anthony Richardson did not have the maturity and so

1124
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: and didn't have necessarily the understanding of all that goes

1125
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: into it, and he was worried that he was leading

1126
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: other guys down the wrong garden path. And so therefore

1127
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, in a very at the time questioned an

1128
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: unpopular decision, was named the Starter. And I think there

1129
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: were a lot of people that thought, holy cow, they

1130
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: went with Daniel Jones just because like they're going with

1131
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: the same vanilla veteran option. And in reality, what you

1132
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: are seeing now is that Daniel Jones, Shane Stiken, his

1133
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: best attribute at as a coach to this point in

1134
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: Indianapolis is not his schemes, is not his vision, but

1135
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: his understanding and his recognition of the fact that we

1136
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: need somebody that just is going to come in block

1137
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: out the noise, but not create noise, and do his job,

1138
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: and so far Daniel Jones has done it masterfully. The

1139
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 1: other thing, Eddie, that Daniel Jones has done really, really well,

1140
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: and the Colts have done really well, and it's going

1141
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: to keep them in games for a long time. And

1142
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how things are going to go on

1143
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 1: Sunday in Los Angeles. But if what we have seen

1144
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: in three games does not a season make, it doesn't

1145
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: even a pattern make. But if they are able to

1146
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: maintain what they've done through three games, they play smart

1147
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: football and they take care of the football. They are

1148
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: not turning the ball over, they are not putting the

1149
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: other teams in advantageous situations by giving them the ball,

1150
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: in flipping field possession and et cetera. They are taking

1151
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: care of the football. They are controlling and tempo of

1152
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: the game, and it's taken on field play. But I

1153
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: believe now they also have completely fallen in line behind

1154
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: their leader and Daniel Jones, who was simply leading by example.

1155
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what it's what he's doing, Jake. And you

1156
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: know there were droppings of this and training camp, and

1157
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: when the news was announced you started hearing guys, and

1158
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: I think the one that stood out to me the most,

1159
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: and I know you can probably take it with a

1160
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: green of salt, was Ady Mitchell's comments about, Hey, what

1161
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: stands out or what have you liked from Daniel Jones?

1162
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: And he just said, the command that he has in Huddled,

1163
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: the way that he prepares, the way he communicates with

1164
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 2: guys that you need to be here, I need you here,

1165
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: this is what you need to do here. Like the

1166
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 2: way that he was going about his business was was

1167
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: very different because we hadn't heard any of those.

1168
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: Things correct and getting like like the you know, the

1169
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: big thing about Anthony Richardson, right, And again, none of

1170
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: this is meant to like sit here and say, gosh,

1171
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: what a loser, what a more None of that. I

1172
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: think part of it is just that natural role you know, age,

1173
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: like an experience, immaturity, just naivete.

1174
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: Right.

1175
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: But having said all of that, I think that Jones

1176
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: was a longer acclamation period with his teammates because and

1177
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: I get that guys are different in the locker room

1178
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: and in the building than what we see. I get that, right.

1179
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like it's no different than in

1180
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: this building. I mean there are people that in any way,

1181
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: in any place of work, right, I mean your your coworkers,

1182
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: your colleagues, whatever else, you just you know them differently

1183
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: than somebody who just like walks past and looks in

1184
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: the window all the time. Having said all of that

1185
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: Jones to me, I think he does not strike me

1186
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: from the outside as a guy that is constantly going

1187
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: around and the like in your face leader, but rather

1188
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: just a guy that has gone around, made it a

1189
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: point to get to know and introduce himself to each

1190
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: respective teammate, regardless of what position they play or how

1191
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: much interaction he would have with them on the regular

1192
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: between eight and five. But I think that just to

1193
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: your point, Eddie, the way he's gone about it, it

1194
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: has taken time. But I think now the rest of

1195
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: the locker rooms like, that's our guy. Yeah, it's got

1196
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: a text Jaco. Twenty sixth female listener is listening. Yeah,

1197
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 1: it's not my mom. She's a listener too with your mom.

1198
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: Who's number one?

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01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: Right, that's correct?

1200
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: And what ad female listener number twenty six have to say?

1201
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: That's all she said.

1202
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: You're just getting random, random messages from female listener. Do

1203
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: you know, said female listener?

1204
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I do.

1205
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I live with said female listener. Oh okay, So,

1206
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: and she's she's telling you that she's taken her between

1207
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: tests Jake, and she passed. Okay, I'm proud of her.

1208
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I just got a text from from

1209
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: you know Meghan, but she's already a previous noted female listeners.

1210
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: So we're still stuck on twenty six. Say Megan, the

1211
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: one that you know, we're on like twenty eight. Now

1212
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: we've got twenty seven female listeners or no, we have

1213
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: twenty eight. We're looking for twenty nine. That's what it is.

1214
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: We're stuck on twenty eight.

1215
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: I forget, We're stuck on Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, and we're

1216
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: trying to get to know twenty nine was Juju brent

1217
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: Because the other day I was in the grocery store

1218
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: and I saw a guy in the twenty nine jersey

1219
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: and my first thought, this is how you know you're old.

1220
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, Dickerson, Joseph and Dye or Jason Belzer,

1221
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: I think they were all twenty nine. And then I

1222
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: turned the corner and it was a Juju Brenz jersey,

1223
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: and I like, Juju Brnce, I do did you go

1224
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: up to the guy and ask him?

1225
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 2: You know what? I wondered if he was related to

1226
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 2: Juju Brentz.

1227
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of like my buddy that I worked with

1228
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: when I worked at the cigar store that literally saved

1229
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: up his money for like two and a half months

1230
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: and got a custom made Arnold Mickens Colt's jersey and

1231
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: then literally the day that it finally arrived and he

1232
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: put it on, Mickens got released. Mikaia Blake, great, are

1233
01:04:53,120 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: currently where's number twenty nine? That's not a bad one, right, No, wait,

1234
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: you referenced your mom earlier, and I'm just concerned.

1235
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 2: We haven't gotten the leaves PSA.

1236
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: Leaves haven't started falling yet. Leaves haven't started falling yet,

1237
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: per se. But listen, it's a matter of time and

1238
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,479
Speaker 1: it's inevitable, but typically it's once the leaves start turning.

1239
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: Because my mom says, you know, you can get engrossed

1240
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: by looking at the leaves, but then keep in mind

1241
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: that the leaves falling and the water, that's a dangerous combination.

1242
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: Toxic mixture. Toxic mixture. Yes, hey, Jake, I'd like to

1243
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: go to see Philadelphia and Tampa.

1244
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was runner up for me. Not a bad game.

1245
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: We still have tickets to give away. It's some point

1246
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 2: during the show, Jake, keep that in mind as well.

1247
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: Not for Philadelphia and Tampa. No, for MGK, they should

1248
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: definitely win their division at Baker Mayfield is just enough

1249
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: of a pain to beat anyone on any given day.

1250
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: That's your stick. I think pain.

1251
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I think Baker Mayfield is. I think he's what

1252
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: the kids say, a dog.

1253
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 2: He is.

1254
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: But here's the thing of Okay, Baker Mayfield is the

1255
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti of quarterbacks.

1256
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: Okay.

1257
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: He has like this aura and this bravada of cockiness

1258
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: about him that you're like, dude, really, but yet he

1259
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: doesn't go away and you know what I mean, and

1260
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: so you I mean he is very sure of himself.

1261
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 1: Is Baker Mayfield confident? Yes, which leads to this other question. Okay,

1262
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: before we get to because there is news to talk

1263
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: about with Indiana football.

1264
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: Todd Meyer is standing outside the glass with our door

1265
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 2: with a belt over his shoulder. He wins something like,

1266
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: ww Ea style. They are bringing in a belt right now.

1267
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: There's a whole slew of them. Did Eddie win an award?

1268
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 5: Eddie just won the radio one September Mic Drop Award

1269
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 5: for not only producing your show, producing the Fever broadcast,

1270
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 5: hosting pre and post game for the Fever.

1271
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: Doing everything any of us asks. I ask him about

1272
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: eight extra things every day.

1273
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 5: You know.

1274
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: The only problem man just gets it done. Here's the

1275
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: only problem with that. And I'm not trying to take

1276
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: away from his thunder, but that is a beautiful, huge,

1277
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,479
Speaker 1: like a WWE level bill. But Eddie, I'm not certain

1278
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: that that thing actually that's like a thirty two inch waist.

1279
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: That's the only problem with the belt here.

1280
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: Can you put that on? Can you try that on?

1281
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 2: Can we see? Congratulations?

1282
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: An you got to hold up the belt.

1283
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 2: I am holding it up. They can't see on the camera.

1284
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 2: Put it on.

1285
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: I want to see the.

1286
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 5: Entire staff, all of our stations, everything, like fourteen stations, right,

1287
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 5: maybe fifteen by the end of the show.

1288
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: Who knows, so job.

1289
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: Eddie is walking around congratulates to Eddie. This is perfect

1290
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: for this is perfect for your birthday.

1291
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Speaker 2: Right, hold on?

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01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: You got to hold it up so people can see it.

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Speaker 2: Eddie.

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Speaker 1: You flash that so fast at the camera, right, work

1295
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: see that. It's that attitude that won Eddie the belt

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Speaker 1: in the first place. Right, can you can you put

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01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: the belt on? He's still doing his job, listen to

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01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: that was the bosses and I even had a question

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Speaker 1: about myself, but I'm not going to do it now

1300
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: because you're the big winner. What was the name of

1301
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: the Award. You won the Mic Drop Award. Well, don't

1302
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: drop the mic.

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01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 2: You know it's weird. I thought it would have been

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01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 2: a mic this big belt.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, Mike, not speaking of Mike's We're gonna one's

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01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: going to join next, right, Mike Nysalik, that's right. That

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01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: would be from the Bloomington Herald Times telephone. It's actually

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01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: Bloomton Harild Times. Mike joins us to talk AYU football next.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier when it comes to Indiana football,

1310
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: and this is a real credit to where Indiana is.

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01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: It almost feels like, you know, for years Iowa, I

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01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: always thought of Iowa and Michigan State, those two programs

1313
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: is kind of benchmarks for Indiana and for that matter,

1314
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: Purdue as well in terms of the Big Ten of

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01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: if you can get to the point where you're that

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01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: level of program, then.

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Speaker 2: You know you're doing pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Mike Niasilik joins us now on the program from Bloomington

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Speaker 1: and the Herald Times. Mike, I'll begin with this. I

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01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: guess it says something about Indiana and maybe I'm overstating this,

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01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: but I almost feel like, oddly enough at Iowa is

1322
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: a potential trap game for Indiana because the way that

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01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: they took care of business against Illinois and the electricity

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01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: of that, then your eye starts looking towards the matchups,

1325
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 1: say with Oregon, and you almost forget that they've got

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01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: to go on the road in a place that's a

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01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: pretty darn tough place to play. Now, I'm not saying

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01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: the players feel that way, but is there any truth

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01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,799
Speaker 1: to the fact that, like, maybe we even overlook Iowa.

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01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 6: No, I don't think so, because I mean, there is

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01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 6: a buy in between, so it's not like an immediate

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01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 6: sort of right in the Aftermathew going one to the other.

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Speaker 6: And I also think that, you know, the difference is

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01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 6: the rogue part of it. Like, I mean, this was

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01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 6: a team that last time they played a big road

1336
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 6: road game in the Big Ten, it was a disaster.

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01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,839
Speaker 6: I mean, the other team was reading their silent account

1338
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 6: tee and off on them. And I think the guys

1339
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 6: that are coming back especially have something to prove there,

1340
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 6: So I think they'll be plenty motivated, you know, for

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01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 6: this one. And and you know, it's important to when

1342
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 6: you've got a series of big road games this year,

1343
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 6: to get the first one because if they only get

1344
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 6: harder from here.

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01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about, you know, defensively one of their

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01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 1: leaders and Lewis Moore, who you know, this is a

1347
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: guy that has played extremely well for them. Obviously is

1348
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: a veteran player, and he just won. And my terminology,

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01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying this correctly. But he got a

1350
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: court ruling in his favor against the NCAA. And then

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01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: I'll let you piece in Mike where I'm perhaps incorrect

1352
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: in this the number of years that he had played

1353
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: in junior college. The NCAA was saying that that should

1354
01:10:55,680 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: impact his eligibility. He obviously challenged that, and they ruled

1355
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: in his favor. So therefore his eligibility is maintained. A

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01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: correct me if my terminology is wrong, And then b

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01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 1: why is this significant above and beyond just this case

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01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 1: with Indiana.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, he essentially had run out of eligibility

1360
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 6: because he played multiple years at juco. He was at

1361
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 6: Jucal College actually three years because he redshirted, so this

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01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 6: was actually a seventh year in college. This all ties

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01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 6: to the Diego Pablo case, the Vanderbilt quarterback who was

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01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 6: then initial sort of player that sued the NCAAA and

1365
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 6: won an injunction and then they the NCAA issued a

1366
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 6: waiver for kids in junior college, but essentially a lowis

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01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 6: moore to qualify because he had those an extra year

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01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 6: and so he was sort of out, his clock had

1369
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 6: run out. He applied for a waiver and get and

1370
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 6: so he had to go through the courts to sort

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01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 6: of win an injunction. Basically, he'll have a trial because

1372
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 6: he's still suing the NCAA, but he wanted an jump

1373
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 6: that prevents them from enforcing the rule until that trial,

1374
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 6: which is in January. So he needed that to stay

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01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 6: eligible for this season. So now he's good. There's no

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Speaker 6: there's no more questions about whether he'll be eligible down

1377
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 6: the line. He's fine. So you know, he'll he'll be

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Speaker 6: through here through the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's it's just part of kind of what's going on

1381
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 6: in college football with these cases. I don't necessarily know

1382
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 6: that this is this sort of sets any precedents. The

1383
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 6: NCAA is probably one more cases than it's actually lost

1384
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 6: in court recently in terms of these cases. So more obviously,

1385
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 6: his attorneys did a nice job, you know, fighting for

1386
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 6: him and getting this done. It's it's it's hugely important,

1387
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 6: and I don't want to play more's impact because I

1388
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 6: think he's been good, not necessarily great, especially when you

1389
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 6: listen to Kurtzig Denny kind of talk about how the

1390
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 6: problems the Safeties have had, you know, with the exception

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01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 6: of the Neana State game, we sort of miscommunications, misalignments.

1392
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 6: The problem was is that they don't really have any

1393
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 6: depth Bryson bond out for the season, Buyer and Baldwin

1394
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 6: that really promising freshmen they had high hopes for. There's

1395
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 6: no timeline for his return. Originally he was day to

1396
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 6: day kind of before the opener, and now four weeks later,

1397
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 6: they haven't sort of updated his status. So when you

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01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 6: kind of looked at like who was up next, it

1399
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 6: was another freshman that hasn't played and a walk on.

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 6: So I mean they really needed him there to sort

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01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 6: of maintain continuity. And I'm not downplaying his individual contributions

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01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 6: because I think he's done a nice job, but man,

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01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 6: if they had lost him, going into Kennick with a

1404
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 6: player that's that's played, you know a handful of snaps

1405
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 6: in his career would not have been ideal, especially when

1406
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 6: you've been struggling with communication there to begin with.

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Speaker 1: So with this case, do you believe Mike and I

1408
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: realized neither one of us here are attorneys. But does

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01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 1: this I'll use the term floodgates for lack of a

1410
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: better does it set a precedent now where other players

1411
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: won't even have to necessarily file a suit because they

1412
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: will simply say this has already been ruled upon and

1413
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: so therefore what was ruled for more will help, you know,

1414
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: Smith at.

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01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 6: Texas A and m No, no, because I mean if

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01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 6: that was the case and all these other cases would

1417
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 6: have there's precedent. No, And the NCAA has sort of

1418
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 6: like an unofficial blanket policy. Their attorney talked about it.

1419
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 6: Actually in courts, they're going to fight every case no

1420
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 6: matter what, the same that that fault, that that any

1421
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 6: player that's been denied a waiver, there's a couple left.

1422
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 6: I mean at this point, now we're in the season,

1423
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 6: I mean, like a lot of these kids, I mean,

1424
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 6: maybe it'll probably haven't there'll probably another fluggate of suits

1425
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 6: with basketball player basketball players that have lost waivers. Because

1426
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 6: for football now you're obviously i mean you're five weeks

1427
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 6: into the season. So I think there's a kid from

1428
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,799
Speaker 6: Wisconsin's sort of waiting for the courts rule on injunction.

1429
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 6: A lot of these kids, these cases have come down,

1430
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 6: and the NCAA is just kind of fighting all of

1431
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 6: them to sort of i mean be neutral sense essentially,

1432
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 6: like they're not treating any case differently. They're saying anytime

1433
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 6: we deny waiver, we are fighting it and saying that

1434
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 6: those kids should not be eligible. So there's those sort

1435
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 6: of press you know, the players could use this as

1436
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 6: as as an argument core that, look, these these cases

1437
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 6: were won. This is what these judges said. But there's

1438
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 6: no sort of overall precedent that doesn't do that, you know,

1439
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 6: because there's been cases that have players have won that

1440
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 6: you know did not necessarily directly help more in the

1441
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 6: case because I mean, he had to go to court

1442
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 6: and fight for his eligibility.

1443
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 2: Mike.

1444
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,839
Speaker 1: Was that performance that you saw against Illinois the finest

1445
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: hour in Kurt Signetti's time in Indiana.

1446
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 6: That's an interesting question. I mean, the Nebraska following ranks

1447
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 6: up there. I mean, I still think the Michigan States

1448
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 6: came was impressive just because they actually faced the adversity,

1449
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 6: were on the road and then just lost forty seven

1450
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 6: straight points. I mean there's a couple of them, right,

1451
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 6: I mean, you got to you gotta think, uh. And

1452
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 6: I think what's interesting is that Michigan game kind of

1453
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 6: gets overlooked, like, I mean, that was a really tough game,

1454
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 6: and that was a huge atmosphere, and like the playoff

1455
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 6: doesn't happen if they kind of fumble in that second half,

1456
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 6: even though it gets a really I think defensive had

1457
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 6: a ton of NFL talent, but it's up there. I mean,

1458
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 6: we'll see kind of you know, it's hard to know, right,

1459
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 6: Like if Illinois loses five games, people are going to

1460
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 6: really discount that performance, you know what I'm saying, Yeah

1461
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 6: and so and so in the moment, yeah, I mean

1462
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 6: it felt pretty big, but we'll see, because Illinois did

1463
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 6: not look like a team that I had of stuff together.

1464
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 2: But it just seemed like.

1465
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: Fascinating to me about it. And I don't disagree with

1466
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: you from the Illinois standpoint of things, right, but at

1467
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: the same time, it just looked with Indiana, it was like, man,

1468
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how you find a weakness in that.

1469
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: And I'm not sitting here saying that, you know, my gosh,

1470
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: they are you know, instantly the best team in that

1471
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: But when you look at it and and that game

1472
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: and the way that they're able to just turn up

1473
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 1: the wick and just go. And if there was an area,

1474
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: if I will call you right now and said, look,

1475
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 1: we got to find a weakness of Indiana to what

1476
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: your answer would be, what.

1477
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 6: I mean it would be that secondary I mean that

1478
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 6: the safety's the down the millfield. I mean that would

1479
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 6: be the answer. I think it would be Churtz Signety's answer.

1480
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 6: He was kind of he said that, you know, five

1481
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 6: mistakes and the only reason they didn't hurt him was

1482
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 6: because they were getting so much pressure on the quarterback.

1483
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 6: Iowa has a better offensive line so that they might

1484
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 6: be able to sort of take advantage of those things.

1485
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 6: But it's not like a huge thing. I mean to

1486
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 6: your point, like, I mean, if they can score with

1487
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 6: anybody and drop sixty on a dime, I mean, what

1488
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,560
Speaker 6: is you know, you've got some room for air. So

1489
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 6: I mean like this team is operating at a high level,

1490
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 6: no doubt, and it's impressive. And I think the sort

1491
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 6: of common thread from last year is like, man, this

1492
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 6: team knows how to play with the lead, right, like

1493
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 6: when they sense weakness, like in a second half. I mean,

1494
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 6: I think i'd added it up yesterday. I think they're

1495
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 6: outscoring teams like one hundred and eleven to ten in

1496
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 6: the second half and they've only allowed one touchdown. So

1497
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 6: I mean, like, but that's been all of Churtzygunny's tenure really,

1498
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 6: that this team once they sent something, you know, once

1499
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 6: they go into halftime and have a lead, they're not

1500
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 6: giving it up. And so I think that it's it's

1501
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 6: just a really impressive sort of set this team has

1502
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,600
Speaker 6: had and focus that you know, you just kind of

1503
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 6: see it and Kris and Day bridges it every week

1504
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 6: and it's worked.

1505
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: You know, Mike, there are kind of three styles of coach. Okay,

1506
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean there's more, but I'm going to speak generically here. Okay,

1507
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: You've got the Tony Dungee example, where like guys that

1508
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: played for Tony Dungee were like, man, he was just

1509
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 1: such a botherly figure that I gave my best because

1510
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: I didn't want to disappoint him.

1511
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 2: I didn't want to let him down.

1512
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: You've got the you know, the Bob Knight style, right,

1513
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 1: which was like, man, I was just scared to death

1514
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 1: of this guy and he was constantly on me and

1515
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: pushing me and et cetera. And then you've got the

1516
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 1: guy that is doesn't necessarily say a lot, but carries

1517
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: with him this level of confidence that just exudes over

1518
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: to the team where they look at him and they go,

1519
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: we can win any game because this guy bel leaves

1520
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: in us. Signetti, seemingly from the outside is number three,

1521
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: but you're around it and you talk to guys and

1522
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: you see it a little bit more intimately than do

1523
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: I or the listeners. Which best describes or who exactly

1524
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: is Signetti?

1525
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 6: Well, I mean the obvious example is Nick Saban, you know,

1526
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 6: the history and and and being sort of I think

1527
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 6: with Signetti it's more being just a football savant, right

1528
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 6: like that He's always watching film. He it's a great

1529
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 6: evaluator of talent, a great evaluator of scheme, can break

1530
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 6: things down, and I think you see him being able

1531
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 6: to you know, hear opposing coaches talk about how they

1532
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 6: exploit mistakes that they find and and you know there's

1533
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 6: there's such a well coached kind of group in all

1534
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 6: three phases, and so that's kind of where I would

1535
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 6: tend to. You know, it's not you don't you don't

1536
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 6: hear players and this is not to say they want

1537
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 6: to win for him, but you don't hear that kind

1538
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 6: of Tony Dungee kind of talk where oh man, we're

1539
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 6: all invested in for him. He's more just like we

1540
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,560
Speaker 6: have it's business like in a sin. It's like we

1541
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 6: have a focus and we have things to do, and

1542
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 6: here's what we're going to accomplish. It's not like we're

1543
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 6: going to win one for him. It's like we're going

1544
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 6: to win because that's what we have to do and

1545
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 6: that's what we're in the business of doing. And so

1546
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 6: that's sort of what I view it is. Maybe you know,

1547
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 6: Nick Saban sort of Bill Parcels, you kind of trace

1548
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 6: it in that tree on down where it's like football, football, football, football,

1549
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 6: and we're going to win, you know, like that's what

1550
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 6: it is.

1551
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

1552
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 1: Lastly, Mike, when you look at this matchup with Iowa

1553
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: and in talking to Indiana over the course of the week,

1554
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,719
Speaker 1: the areas for Iowa that are of concern that Indiana

1555
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 1: is particularly focused on stopping or you know, simply not

1556
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: or taking advantage of perhaps even where they feel Iowa

1557
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: is susceptible. What's the overall read there well a.

1558
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 6: Couple of things. I think the noise obviously still matters

1559
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 6: because like I said, I mentioned that Ohio State game,

1560
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 6: what the offensive line does to communicate they want to

1561
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 6: a silent count in that game, They're not going to

1562
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 6: do that because that one so poorly and and Hot

1563
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 6: State was reading it. So like how they communicate? What's

1564
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 6: that operation look like? Because you know that offensive line

1565
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 6: has been really clean. I think special teams will be huge.

1566
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 6: I mean Iowa is just you know, fantastic. They don't

1567
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 6: make mistakes. They've had a pumper turn and kick return

1568
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 6: touchdowns this year game against Rudger open with the Hunter

1569
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 6: yard return. They have a really really good returner and

1570
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 6: so I think you have to you know, limit him

1571
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 6: and I think that'll that'll be really important. And then

1572
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 6: you win the battle in the trenches. Again, I mentioned

1573
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 6: the offensive line and the communication, but I mean they

1574
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,879
Speaker 6: domted up front of both sides of the ball against Illinois.

1575
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 6: You're going to see upgrades Iowa a better offensive line,

1576
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 6: you know, stout on the on the defensive front. Can

1577
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 6: you win both of those areas? I think I think

1578
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 6: those kind of are the the sort of the three

1579
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 6: keys for me.

1580
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 2: You know one other thing.

1581
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: Actually, I should have asked you off the top, is

1582
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: he going to have a Heisman winner?

1583
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 6: I mean, you know those things are funny, right, Like

1584
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 6: he's the favorite, but I mean, or they play Oregon

1585
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 6: in three weeks and then they play Penn State after that,

1586
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 6: so I mean, like we'll talk favorites after those games, right,

1587
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,440
Speaker 6: Like if he does, We've.

1588
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 1: Had a lot of favorites that by the end of

1589
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: the year, You're like, what happened to that?

1590
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, like and we all knew, Like I mean, like, look,

1591
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 6: I had no doubt Bernana Mendoza was going to put

1592
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 6: up huge numbers against the Indianita States that would look

1593
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 6: obviously way, way way higher numbers, but like his numbers

1594
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 6: are inflated from that conference schedule. So like, I mean, yes,

1595
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 6: he's a he's a I don't think it's not He's

1596
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 6: not like a he's a legitimate candidate now. But I

1597
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 6: think he's got a lot, a lot of heavy lifting

1598
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 6: to do with like their toughest games still on the schedule,

1599
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 6: and like he could easily win it. If he wins

1600
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 6: these like Iowa, Penn State, and Oregon, he could have

1601
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 6: it sewed up in November. If you know he takes

1602
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,799
Speaker 6: care of business, but if he struggles in those road environments,

1603
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 6: I think you're going to have a hard time sort of,

1604
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 6: you know, labeling him as the is the front runner.

1605
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: Mike Nisilic is the Indiana University athletic beat writer for

1606
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 1: the Bloomington Herald Times. You can read their articles at

1607
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: the Herald Times, on the Expost, Twitter and Michael Nysalik

1608
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: that's in I z Io l e k as well

1609
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: on social media.

1610
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 2: Mike appreciate it as always, man, Eddie Times, Jake, thanks,

1611
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 2: Ma'm you know it's it's.

1612
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: Interesting the I'm going to make a statement here, Eddie,

1613
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna let people tell me if I

1614
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: sound completely wrong when I say it.

1615
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: You ready, yep.

1616
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how to delicately say this, as Indiana

1617
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,560
Speaker 1: is going into Iowa this weekend and I have I

1618
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: really like Iowa. I like as a matter of fact,

1619
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 1: I need to I need to brace myself and prepare

1620
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: how I'm going to word this as to not have

1621
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: it come off the wrong way.

1622
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 2: So you need to think during the break on how

1623
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 2: you're going to do that.

1624
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 5: I do.

1625
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 4: So.

1626
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 2: I really when.

1627
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,799
Speaker 1: When I was in high school. I had the penance

1628
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,799
Speaker 1: of every Big Ten team on my wall, and actually,

1629
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 1: I think I might have been in college. Now, this

1630
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: isn't the wall that had all the signatures on it, right, No,

1631
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: that's the that's in the that was in the closet, like, ah, yeah,

1632
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: it's secret place, that's right. The Chris Street was a

1633
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: basketball player at Iowa that was tragically fatally injured in

1634
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: a car accident. I think I was in college at

1635
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: that time, and I wrote a letter to Iowa just

1636
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: saying that as an Indiana fan, like a letter of

1637
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: condolence basically, and they sent back a really nice thing

1638
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 1: to me. And as a result of that, I've always

1639
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: really liked the Iowa athletic program. I love I think

1640
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: Iowa as a state is beautiful. I think it's very underrated.

1641
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: I love Made Right Sandwiches, and I really really respect

1642
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: Kirk Parents. I think he's a just a really good

1643
01:24:55,120 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: football coach. And so all of that said, I have

1644
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: like almost like a kinship with the state of Iowa.

1645
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: So when I say this, I think it's going to

1646
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: come off the wrong way, but I've had people that

1647
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:14,560
Speaker 1: since Indiana is playing at Iowa this weekend, I understand,

1648
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: and I know that now it has become a great

1649
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 1: tradition of the fact that the Iowa Children's Hospital overlooks

1650
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: Kinneck Stadium right there, And Eddie, you're familiar with the tradition, right,

1651
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: I believe it is it the fourth quarter or the

1652
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: second quarter, one of the quarters where the crowd turns

1653
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 1: around and waves to the kids that are in the hospital.

1654
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: But I've had people that have gone to the games

1655
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: that have said that it's actually like kind of uncomfortable.

1656
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: Because I certainly understand acknowledging and recognizing and giving encouragement

1657
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: to the kids. I'm for all of that, but it

1658
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: goes on like really long, and then I have this

1659
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: level of and I'm hesitant to say it, but I'm

1660
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: just curious if I'm the only person that's ever thought this.

1661
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: After a while, it almost feels like it's unfair to

1662
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: the kids themselves, because you know how badly they'd like

1663
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: to be there in the crowd. Does that make sense

1664
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 1: at all what I'm saying, Like I can see it

1665
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: when I watch it. After a while, I'm like, I

1666
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 1: understand and I and I know that it's all rooted

1667
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: in the heart being in the right place I get that,

1668
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: but they do it for like multiple minutes at a time,

1669
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: and after a while it almost feels like a like, hey,

1670
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: it's great, the water's great in here.

1671
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, like it just.

1672
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: It's rooted in the right place. And the people of

1673
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: Iowa are great people.

1674
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 2: So I get that. I just when I see it.

1675
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes I have wondered to myself, am I the only

1676
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: one that like just gets a little bit uncomfortable with

1677
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: it after a while. I I know that that's like,

1678
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: probably people think I'm like the worst human being? And

1679
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: well they might already think that actually, but for me

1680
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: saying that, But there are certain things that I've under

1681
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 1: to myself, am I the only one that like notices

1682
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: these things? Am I the only one sometimes that thinks

1683
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: certain things? You know, kind of like what we were

1684
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 1: talking about earlier with the quarterbacking situation in the Mike

1685
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: Tomlin comments, you know, there are certain things that you know,

1686
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,799
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen in some areas when it comes to analyzing

1687
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,839
Speaker 1: the quarterback a year ago, may have thought to himself,

1688
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: am I the only one that's recognizing this? Am I

1689
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: the only one that's noticing where there are issues? And

1690
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 1: clearly the answer to that was no, because Chris Ballard

1691
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: not only brought him in a veteran quarterback, Chris Ballard

1692
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: did so under the complete clearance of you are able

1693
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: to make this decision, and thus he went with Daniel Jones.

1694
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: And Daniel Jones will be trying to maintain a hot

1695
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: start in Los Angeles this weekend. Matt Taylor, Voice of

1696
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 1: the Colts, will join us to talk about that in

1697
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 1: thirty Hi there, how are you? It is two o'clock

1698
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 1: on a Thursday in Indianapolis. For that matter, it's two

1699
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: o'clock on a Thursday everywhere in the Eastern time zone.

1700
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 2: Jake, I'm well, my name's Eddie Garrison. How are you?

1701
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, my name is Jake Querry.

1702
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: The other voice you hear in this program is Eddie Garrison,

1703
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: who is the Mic Drop Award winner at Thanks the

1704
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: Radio one monthly meeting.

1705
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 2: How does it make you feel? Are you the first winner? Second?

1706
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Who was the first winner? I can't remember? Well, I

1707
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 1: mean you took the belt from him.

1708
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 2: You don't know who it is? Well, Todd Meyer brought

1709
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:23,879
Speaker 2: it in here. I don't know who had it previous.

1710
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that shows the magnitude of your accomplishment. Right now,

1711
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,759
Speaker 1: you're just trying to be smirch me over here because

1712
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,759
Speaker 1: you're just jealous, Jake, that I'm not. I a definitely

1713
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: are jealous. How do you know I'm not one that

1714
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: nominated you. That's a good question.

1715
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 2: I don't know that. Okay, Well then I don't know

1716
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 2: if I can trust you to read your email or apply.

1717
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: That's probably a good point, just out of curiosity. Does

1718
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: the belt that you won come with any sort of

1719
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: an ascot or a robe? No, it came with a

1720
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: nice gift. I thought maybe you'd like to put those on,

1721
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: and along with that, I'm going to have you put

1722
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: that fact in and smoke it because there might be

1723
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, for what that's worth? Do

1724
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 1: you happen to have the breaking news sounder for me?

1725
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: It has come to my attention that perhaps we were

1726
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: sitting on what number when it comes to our female listeners, Eddie.

1727
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: We were on Jonathan Taylor.

1728
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 1: So we are now we have upgraded from Jonathan Taylor

1729
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 1: to Jason Belzer slash, Mike Adams slash Juju Brent's slash,

1730
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: Joseph and Dye slash Eric Dickerson slash.

1731
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 2: Makai blackman, Makai blackman.

1732
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: I am informed, say hello please, and introduce into the

1733
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: room Jackie, who is female listener number twenty nine.

1734
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 2: It has come to my attention. So there we go.

1735
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 2: Thank you Jackie for listening and being part of the program.

1736
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: Jackie, clearly her radio is broken, but we're happy and

1737
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: we will take what we can do.

1738
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 4: We know what was the.

1739
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 2: Fellow's name that got Mary last week? Do you remember Jake?

1740
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: Was it Mike? Was it Mike or Aaron?

1741
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: Didn't he get married on a Friday?

1742
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? He texted us about is that a thing?

1743
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:02,640
Speaker 7: Now?

1744
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: Don't people do that now because it's like it's easier

1745
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 1: to get venues?

1746
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got one tomorrow. You're getting married tomorrow.

1747
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:09,600
Speaker 3: I am not.

1748
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 2: I am not getting married. I have to attend a

1749
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 2: wedding tomorrow. Where's the wedding. It's in Indiana. I don't

1750
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 2: want people swarm. Any came in the wedding. No, I

1751
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 2: didn't know if you'd be wearing your little belt. Well, jakey,

1752
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 2: I may wear it anyway that they gave you.

1753
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: You wear that around all over. There's may be a

1754
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: bunch of radio people there. Oh really, Yeah, so is

1755
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: it somebody I know, No, somebody went to college with

1756
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 1: that works in radio. Yes, Okay, Colts and Rams coming

1757
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: up Sunday out at Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles. Matt

1758
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: Taylor will join us to talk about exactly that coming

1759
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 1: up in just a little bit. We will also get

1760
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: into that from a health standpoint, but before we do so,

1761
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: we should also mention that the fever, my understanding, is

1762
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: the fever coming back from Las Vegas. I don't think

1763
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 1: it was like a substantial but they had a little

1764
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 1: bit of a flight delay before they got back to Indianapolis.

1765
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: But now it is tomorrow night, game at number three

1766
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: and their battle with Las Vegas in the WNBA playoffs. Eddie,

1767
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: reality is game number two was a game and this

1768
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:20,719
Speaker 1: was my i'll say concern for lack of a better phrase,

1769
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 1: but because I'm not saying that I was sitting there

1770
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:25,679
Speaker 1: thinking like, oh my gosh, this guy's falling.

1771
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:26,600
Speaker 2: But we may mention of this.

1772
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: Oftentimes, you see if a team is going to steal

1773
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,800
Speaker 1: a game one, and in particular if it is a

1774
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: series going in that you feel like there is a

1775
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 1: clear favorite. And I think most would say that Las

1776
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: Vegas is the clear favorite in that series. But that's

1777
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: to sell short what the Fever have been able to

1778
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: do and the determination that they have shown. But with

1779
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: all that said, my worry was that by and they won.

1780
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: Look it's not like they stole game one. I mean

1781
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 1: they controlled Game one in Indiana, but that was a

1782
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: pretty resounding responds from Las Vegas. And now I'm curious.

1783
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: I think Stephanie White could join us twenty four hours

1784
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: from now two o'clock show on tomorrow's show tentatively scheduled,

1785
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 1: but I'm curious to see. Are we at the time

1786
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 1: of year where you necessarily make adjustments or have all

1787
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: adjustments really kind of been thrown out there and it's

1788
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: just a matter of this is what we do, this

1789
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,759
Speaker 1: is what you do, and we are going to again

1790
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:27,759
Speaker 1: push it in and see how it falls.

1791
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's like in the NBA, Jake, everything's game

1792
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 2: to game. You make changes based off of what you've seen,

1793
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 2: and you have to keep in mind of what both

1794
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 2: teams did in terms of an execution standpoint, and game

1795
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 2: number one just kind of have to blend it all

1796
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 2: together to figure out what they're going to try to

1797
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 2: do in game number three and make sure that what

1798
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: Vegas did in game number two, and primarily it was

1799
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 2: Melissa Smith that was the issue for Indiana. Asia Wilson

1800
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 2: got going a little bit, but you talked about this

1801
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 2: with do we have somebody on it was it Scott

1802
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 2: Agnes we were talking to. You talked to him out,

1803
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 2: you know, trying to limit the other players around Asia

1804
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:08,560
Speaker 2: Wilson because there was the anticipation and expectation that with

1805
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 2: how poorly she played in game one, they were gonna

1806
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 2: go out of their way to make sure she went

1807
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 2: off in game number two. Now she finished with what

1808
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 2: twenty eight and eight or twenty five nine boards and

1809
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: five steals. She was very controlling.

1810
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I mean, look, she's obviously a phenomenal talent, right,

1811
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 1: but they a lot.

1812
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 2: About like seventeen points to Melissa Smith, who played ten

1813
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 2: minutes in the first game.

1814
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's in and again you know Lexi Hole, I mean,

1815
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 1: was questionable from a health standpoint going into that into

1816
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 1: game two. You gotta wonder what you get there out

1817
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 1: of game three. Kelsey Mitchell, I think they probably do

1818
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 1: need the Kelsey Mitchell, the thirty plus or the twenty

1819
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,719
Speaker 1: five plus, you know, everything going offensively through Kelsey Mitchell

1820
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: if they're gonna win this series. But you know, we'll

1821
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: see what happens coming up on Friday night. As for

1822
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: the Colts and the Rams, we talked about this earlier

1823
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 1: and I wanted to get back into it. Matthew Stafford is,

1824
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 1: would you say right now he is still a top

1825
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: ten quarterback? Would you agree with that? I don't know

1826
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 1: if i'd say ten, but he's top half of the

1827
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 1: league for sure. If you were to rank them right

1828
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 1: now quarterbacks in the NFL, We'll do it this way

1829
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:32,600
Speaker 1: because when you look at what he is able to do.

1830
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: And there's a reason I'm bringing this up. Okay, I'm

1831
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: going to name the quarterback. Can you tell me whether

1832
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 1: or not you believe that they're in.

1833
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:40,719
Speaker 2: The top ten? Okay, okay?

1834
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: Josh Allen yes, Tua no. I mean some of these

1835
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna skip over because they're obviously nos.

1836
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 2: Drake May is a no. Justin Fields is a no.

1837
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson yes, Joe Burrow yes, even though I realized

1838
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 1: he's out.

1839
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers no. C J.

1840
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:06,560
Speaker 1: Stroud no, Daniel Jones no, Trevor Lawrence no. Obviously not

1841
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: cam Ward yeh Bo Nicks no. Patrick Mahomes yes, okay,

1842
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: Herbert Yes, okay, Herbert obviously, Gino Smith you're saying no, no, okay,

1843
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott yes, interesting, okay. You know we have no

1844
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 1: idea about you know, Dart okay, Jalen Hurts yes, Jayden

1845
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 1: Daniels yes, Caleb Williams No, here's an interesting one. Jared

1846
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: Goff yes, Jordan love Fringe but no, okay, yeah, I

1847
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: think JJ mccarthur, we know there. Michael Pennox, Bryce Young Baker, yes,

1848
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 1: bakery put up there, okay, uh, Kyler Murray no, perty No.

1849
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold no, okay. So right, there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

1850
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: So bang look at that.

1851
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

1852
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: Now, Stafford is a guy with a big arm. And

1853
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 1: I don't mean like he's got I mean like literally

1854
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 1: he he can throw. He He is a very to me,

1855
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is a Drew Brees type quarterback. He is

1856
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: a precise thrower. But at the same time he has capability,

1857
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: even still at an older age, of throwing a pretty

1858
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 1: effective long ball. Now, what is interesting about the Rams

1859
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 1: are two things. And we talked to Nate Atkins earlier

1860
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 1: that conversation will be available in podcasts form. We asked

1861
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 1: it you wait till after John Show before listening to it.

1862
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: But Nate Akins, who used to be with Any Star

1863
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 1: and now covers the Rams for the Athletic, and one

1864
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 1: of the things that we were talking about with him

1865
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 1: is the fact that you have two obviously very very

1866
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:00,640
Speaker 1: effective wide receivers in Los Angeles for Matt Stafford to

1867
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: throw too, right, but he only goes to two. He

1868
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 1: has thrown so far sixty I believe he has sixty

1869
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 1: two completions so far through three games. Okay, forty three

1870
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: of those. Forty three of those are going to one

1871
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 1: of two places. Now his main target, without question, Who're

1872
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: gonna Kola? Which I you know, and I think he

1873
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: might have been hurt when they came here two years ago.

1874
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:30,759
Speaker 2: He was not. He had this game any touchdown in overtime.

1875
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 2: That's right, That's right. You said forty three completions to

1876
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 2: those two and sixty two in total.

1877
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 1: Forty two completions to those two out of sixty three.

1878
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 1: That is literally two thirds of the time. Yeah, and

1879
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 1: so for the Colts, you know, and then you wonder,

1880
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: and this is what we talked about with Nate Atkins.

1881
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 1: Are those two getting that high a percentage of the

1882
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:02,839
Speaker 1: receptions because other player you know, Whittington or Xavier Smith

1883
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: or even his tight ends Tyler Higbee. Are they not

1884
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 1: getting themselves open? Or are they schematically saying, look these two,

1885
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: both of them are averaging both of them are averaging

1886
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 1: over ten yards per reception. So if you're able to

1887
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 1: go there is it. Are they going to those two

1888
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 1: out of necessity because nobody else is getting themselves open?

1889
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: Or are they going out of luxury because why go

1890
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 1: to anybody else when we are getting chunk plays out

1891
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:34,719
Speaker 1: of these two players?

1892
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 2: Luxury for sure, Jake, because I mean they're both arguably

1893
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 2: still top even Adams even though he's thirty one years old.

1894
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 2: They're both top ten receivers well, right, And so what

1895
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, though, and Puk is probably the most

1896
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 2: underrated top receiver in the league. I think he's and

1897
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 2: he has been from the time that he entered the league.

1898
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he has been a dynamic player from the

1899
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 2: get go. But what they are not getting a lot

1900
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 2: of at this point, and I'm not and I don't

1901
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 2: watch enough of the rams to know if this is

1902
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 2: the norm and it's an art that we're starting to

1903
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 2: see teams use more of again, copy of the cat

1904
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 2: league trend setting league. Kansas City has done this well,

1905
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 2: and that is getting backs or short yardage guys out

1906
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 2: of a backfield for completions they're not doing. Stafford's never

1907
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 2: really I don't think it had been that kind of

1908
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:31,839
Speaker 2: a quarterback. But it does help you to just maintain

1909
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 2: a balance within your passing game. The reason I say

1910
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:38,600
Speaker 2: all of this is because for the Colts, we have

1911
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 2: not today at this point. And sometimes it's difficult when

1912
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 2: we're on the air because you know we're on the air,

1913
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 2: so you don't know what's being said over at West

1914
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 2: fifty six during the time that we're on the air

1915
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:50,799
Speaker 2: all the time. But there has not been an update

1916
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 2: today in terms of, for example, Kennymore correct, let me

1917
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 2: look kennymore When you look at that injury and the

1918
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 2: fact that it's an achilles, I would be stunned if

1919
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 2: we see him anytime soon. And then as a result

1920
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:07,640
Speaker 2: of that, that means that now you are having to

1921
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 2: move around a little bit and rely on the depth

1922
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 2: in your defensive backfield. That's an area that I think

1923
01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 2: Chris Ballard worked really hard in getting depth there. He

1924
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,360
Speaker 2: update real quick. Jack. Kenny Moore did not practice today

1925
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 2: with that achilles injury. Alec Pearce did not practice today

1926
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,560
Speaker 2: as he's in the NFL's can catch protocol. Matt Gonzalvez

1927
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 2: did not participate again today. He was spotted in a

1928
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:38,639
Speaker 2: boot yesterday I practice and he's dealing with a toe issue.

1929
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 2: You know, those toes can be that can hurt, you

1930
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 2: know that, right, Yes, Kevin Powman knows all about it.

1931
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 2: So what we see now.

1932
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,880
Speaker 1: Is the fact that they're going to have to go

1933
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 1: and they already have one guy an Xavier Howard, that

1934
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 1: they basically just had to bring in off the beach.

1935
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 1: To use that term, right, he might have been They

1936
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 1: have another Now if if Kenny Moore is not able

1937
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:06,600
Speaker 1: to go, Eddie, they're gonna have to go again and

1938
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 1: basically rely on somebody that was not on this roster

1939
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 1: like three weeks ago.

1940
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 3: Right.

1941
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 2: It's very fever esque, it kind of is, right, Yeah,

1942
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 2: But with that, what's that Mike Hilton is the player Mike.

1943
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,719
Speaker 1: Hilton who comes and has played in low Anarumo's defense

1944
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, so he has familiarity with the scheme and

1945
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 1: the one area that it is my belief that the

1946
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: one area or the one.

1947
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 2: Position in football.

1948
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:40,560
Speaker 1: That I'm not saying that it's easy to do, but

1949
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:44,639
Speaker 1: relative to other positions, I've always felt like running back

1950
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 1: is one, and then defensive back are positions that you

1951
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 1: can put a guy in that hasn't had a lot

1952
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 1: of time of getting to know the feel of those

1953
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 1: around him and has a general idea, especially if he

1954
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 1: knows the defense what it is that where he needs

1955
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 1: to be. And I think that because you're kind of

1956
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: on an island a lot of times as a defensive back,

1957
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: you are less reliant on the chemistry that is important

1958
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 1: of understanding the guys around you. I think linebacker is

1959
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: a position that oftentimes it is as much about being

1960
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: a good player as it is understanding everyone that's around

1961
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 1: you and their tendencies and their nuances. And it goes

1962
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: without saying in trenches both of those things are true.

1963
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:34,720
Speaker 1: And then in the passing game, receiver and quarterback there's

1964
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 1: an element of that as well, So it's hard to

1965
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 1: air drop those guys in if there's a position over

1966
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 1: the I think if you were to survey NFL general

1967
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 1: managers or head coaches and say, going into this season,

1968
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 1: there's going to be one position group that is going

1969
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: to be dinged up to the point where you're going

1970
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 1: to have to go and bring in guys from outside

1971
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: the building in the middle of the week. What position

1972
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: would you most want that to be. I'm not saying,

1973
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not creating excuse for the Colts, but I'm saying,

1974
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 1: if there's a silver lining here, I think defensive backfield

1975
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 1: is one area where that may be the most common

1976
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: answer that people would give you. Kicker, well, kick her,

1977
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 1: punt her right, long snapper, Speaking of which, Matt Gays

1978
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 1: struggling right, Yes, there are. His struggles continued. Remember when

1979
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 1: he came here and it was like this is the greatest,

1980
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 1: like Chris Ballard was so like largest kicking contract given

1981
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 1: out in franchise in league history. Yeahy correct, And he

1982
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 1: didn't make it to the life of that contract and

1983
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 1: he is now. As a matter of fact, I gotta

1984
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: think here, if I had to guess where Matt Gay

1985
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 1: is kicking, I should know this.

1986
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 2: Don't tell me I should know this. He was just

1987
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 2: on national television not too long ago. Okay, I should

1988
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 2: know this. In fact a week ago today.

1989
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 1: My first thought was Arizona. But that's Chase McLoughlin, right, No,

1990
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 1: he's in Tampa Bay.

1991
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 2: That's right. That's right. So is Matt Gay in Arizona. No, okay,

1992
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 2: Matt Prater used to me with Arizona.

1993
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's a kicker, I admittedly, and I know

1994
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: that I'm showing my ignorance here, but like it is

1995
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 1: hard sometimes because they you know, that is the position

1996
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,679
Speaker 1: that is like one of the Grammaticas are still kicking

1997
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 1: somewhere right, the one that would take the great kazoo

1998
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 1: and blew out his knee and the celebration once what

1999
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: You're not familiar with this? No, it was it is

2000
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 1: it Martin Grammatica or Bill Grammatica. There's there's two different ones,

2001
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:33,280
Speaker 1: and one of them. I mean, this has been like

2002
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, probably twenty years ago at this point.

2003
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:37,720
Speaker 1: U kicked a field goal I believe for Tampa. It

2004
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 1: might have been Martin Grammatica kicked a field goal for Tampa, jumped,

2005
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 1: jumped up in celebration and blew his knee out when

2006
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:50,480
Speaker 1: he landed, landed awkwardly and then was rolled around grabbing

2007
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 1: the knee in the air. I don't mean, I don't

2008
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 1: mean to laugh at his laugh misfunction, but when you're

2009
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 1: a kicker, it's the area that you'd like to have

2010
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: a little st ability, and he and he didn't even

2011
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,680
Speaker 1: it's not it's not like he was jumping off like

2012
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 1: a twenty foot platform. I mean he he's celebrated by

2013
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 1: jumping like four inches in the air and then landed

2014
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 1: awkwardly and ends up and he I can't remember which

2015
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: Grammatica it was, but it was Grammatica incorrect. What's as

2016
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 1: bill Bill Grammatica?

2017
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:22,560
Speaker 2: What year was that?

2018
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess like two thousand and two.

2019
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 2: I don't know a year.

2020
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 1: Can you find did you find the video? I don't

2021
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 1: mean to laugh at a guy's misfortune, but but you know,

2022
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: the kicker in general is usually not seen as the

2023
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:42,599
Speaker 1: most brute of subjects. Right, you can't help but laugh.

2024
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 2: He was like doing that Christiano Ronaldo type celebration all

2025
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 2: those scores before obviously before those times, and he just

2026
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 2: goes that. He's rolling around and he's he does like

2027
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 2: the n grab and you can tell everybody else is like,

2028
01:45:58,920 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 2: what's going on?

2029
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: You just kicked a field goal? He's laying there, What

2030
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:05,200
Speaker 1: does it say?

2031
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 2: What year it was I do not know.

2032
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 1: I believe and I have no idea how or why

2033
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: I know this. One of the Grammaticas kicked at Kansas State, right.

2034
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 4: Am?

2035
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:14,560
Speaker 2: I correcting that.

2036
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: Let's look at this story, the fact like this, the

2037
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: fact that I can go this long under Grammatica and

2038
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 1: one of them kicked for the Colts. That's my point

2039
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 1: about kicker those December fifteenth, two thousand and one. It's

2040
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: been that long ago with the Cardinals.

2041
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 2: That's not what I did know, was it? Yeah?

2042
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, hell for that matter, if you're the if

2043
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 1: you're the back, then if you were the Cardinals, they

2044
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:39,680
Speaker 1: were more celebrating scoring a point. It was on a

2045
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: forty two yeard field goal in the first quarter. By

2046
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 1: the way, people did not like my take on the

2047
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: Iowa deal. By the way, Uh, Matt Gay, where's he at?

2048
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 4: Jake?

2049
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 2: Do you want to know the answer? What's that? Mac Gay?

2050
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 2: You know? Would you like to know where he's at? Yes,

2051
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 2: he is with the commanders. Okay. They had a doink

2052
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 2: off between him and Brandon mcmanoth a doink off. That's

2053
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 2: the thing that you won, that got you that belt

2054
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 2: right here? The mic drop that was that? Okay, No,

2055
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 2: me knowing you know where Mac Gay has got me

2056
01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 2: that award being prepared at all times.

2057
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 1: Hey, Jake, this on the text at two three nine

2058
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 1: ten seventy. This is fair Tom from Noblesville, as a

2059
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 1: transplanted Iowan with strong ties to my home state, your

2060
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 1: way off base in the Iowa first quarterwave. It's actually

2061
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 1: the second quarter, isn't it. I don't know when it is.

2062
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:37,679
Speaker 1: I just know they do it. Jalen just says, stop, Jake,

2063
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 1: Okay with the grammatica No, I think that was about

2064
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 1: when I was talking about Iowa. The the grammatica kick.

2065
01:47:51,479 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, you know, like you watch that and.

2066
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 2: You feel for the guy.

2067
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: You do feel for the guy, but it's hard not

2068
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 1: to chuckle. Hey Jake, should I you fans be rooting

2069
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 1: for Penn State or Oregon this weekend? That the text

2070
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 1: line at two three nine ten seventy. That's also a

2071
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:19,799
Speaker 1: good question. Where is that game between Penn State and Oregon?

2072
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 1: You'd have to look at the remaining schedule. Okay, that

2073
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: game is in Happy Valley at Beaver Stadium in Indiana plays.

2074
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 1: Where does Indiana play Penn State this year?

2075
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 2: They did? They have to go to both places. On

2076
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 2: the road. Indiana will be going to Penn State the

2077
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 2: week after Penn State faces Ohio State.

2078
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing. If Penn State and Oregon are

2079
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 1: playing at Penn State, then you want, if you're an

2080
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 1: Indiana fan, you want Penn State to win.

2081
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:58,719
Speaker 2: Do you yes? And let me explain. Okay, okay, because

2082
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 2: Oregon we'll have a boy and then they face the

2083
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 2: hoo's yours. How did you say that again, Oregon? If

2084
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 2: you ever go there and do not say that Oregon.

2085
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I've also been team Oregon at times in

2086
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 2: my life, but that is like the number one thing.

2087
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 2: If you say Oregon in the state of Oregon, that's

2088
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 2: like people here saying the University of Indiana. It is

2089
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 2: nails on a chalkboard to people there. But you want

2090
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 2: if that game between Oregon and Penn State is at

2091
01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 2: Penn State, you want Penn State to win that game.

2092
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 1: The reason being if Penn State wins a home game

2093
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: over Oregon, then that doesn't necessarily diminish the thought of

2094
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 1: quality of Oregon because it's at Penn State. So if

2095
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 1: Indiana then goes and wins at Oregon, then it really

2096
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 1: looks impressive because it's at Oregon, but second, and then

2097
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:56,680
Speaker 1: they win at Penn State, then it looks doubly impressive

2098
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 1: because you see what I'm saying, like Penn State's supposed

2099
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:00,160
Speaker 1: to win at all home.

2100
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, but once you rather Oregon win, they improve

2101
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 2: their ranking from sixth. No, I'll tell you why. I

2102
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 2: don't have to deal with a you know, a max

2103
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:11,280
Speaker 2: Oregon team from losing. No, I'll say why. This is

2104
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:11,759
Speaker 2: my point.

2105
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: If Indiana has Oregon and Penn State both on their schedule, okay,

2106
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 1: you want both to have maximum thought about each about

2107
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 1: each other. You want both of them to have the

2108
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 1: You want Oregon to be thought of in the highest

2109
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 1: possible regard if you beat them, and you want Penn

2110
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 1: State to be thought of in the highest possible regard

2111
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 1: if you beat them and Oregon. If one of those

2112
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 1: two has to to lose that game, it drops Oregon

2113
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 1: only slightly if they lose because it's on the assuming

2114
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 1: it's a close game, it's on the road at Penn State, right.

2115
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 1: Whereas if Penn State loses that game, that's a home

2116
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 1: loss that drops them and diminishes them more, and it

2117
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: also devalues it. If Indiana go's in there and also wins.

2118
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 1: That's that's my point. So I think if you had

2119
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 1: to pick, you would you are hoping for Penn State

2120
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 1: to hold serve at home. Hey, Jake, since we're talking

2121
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 1: about kickers, whatever happened to the liquored up kicker Mike

2122
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 1: vander chat who joined the show about a year ago.

2123
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 1: That was about a year ago. He was on, right,

2124
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 1: He was good, great dude, He was awesome when we

2125
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 1: had him on. He is living in Upstate, New York.

2126
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 1: He is coaching football, and he talked about when we

2127
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 1: had him on, and it was a great conversation, just

2128
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 1: kind of his regret on on how a lot of

2129
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 1: that went into it and also how the the dust

2130
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 1: up between he and Peyton Manning was kind of made

2131
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:46,799
Speaker 1: more externally than it was internally, Jake. Injuries are not funny,

2132
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,240
Speaker 1: but the context in which they happen could sometimes make

2133
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 1: them laughable. Yeah, I mean exactly right, Like you don't

2134
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 1: wish the guy ill will, but like the fact that

2135
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 1: he jumped. He literally jumped like four inches off the ground, Yeah,

2136
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 1: to celebrate hitting a field goal and then ends up.

2137
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 2: Rolling around grabbing onto his knee.

2138
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 1: All right, One other one here, Jake, do you actually

2139
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:14,720
Speaker 1: have a running list of female listeners or do you

2140
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:16,560
Speaker 1: think there are some repeats in there. I'll bet you

2141
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 1: only have fifteen. That's it from Ben. That's a really

2142
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 1: good point. We do not possible. We do not have

2143
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 1: repeat I don't know though, you know how I get

2144
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 1: concerned about it.

2145
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:29,040
Speaker 2: I know we don't because we'll have our female listeners

2146
01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 2: will call in and they'll tell us my number female

2147
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 2: listener there.

2148
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 1: But for example, we do have it. Was it Kathy Denise, Sidney,

2149
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 1: Cindy Denise. Yes, but she sounds as one listener. She

2150
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 1: didn't count us two. I think we had her changed

2151
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 1: names to boost us from nineteen to twenty. She called

2152
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:46,640
Speaker 1: in as number nineteen and we had her pause and

2153
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: then say she was Denise, and then she became twenty.

2154
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 1: So there are some duplicates, so that would drop us

2155
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 1: now from twenty nine. Probably in the twenty five ring.

2156
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: We didn't duplicate here. We were trying to attract new

2157
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 1: female listeners, so that's what we did. We just told

2158
01:52:58,920 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 1: her to change her name.

2159
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 2: I think, actually, I think we're fibbing on our number

2160
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 2: just a little bit. I don't think we are, Jake.

2161
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a dumb strategy, but I think

2162
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 1: it's reality right that they're fifteen is probably fair. I'm

2163
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:12,719
Speaker 1: willing to go with fifteen.

2164
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 2: That's fair.

2165
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:15,800
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor is the voice of the Colts. He will

2166
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:17,640
Speaker 1: be on the call at so if I Stadium in

2167
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,840
Speaker 1: Los Angeles coming up on Sunday, and he joins us next.

2168
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor going to join us here just a second,

2169
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 1: I got to read this from Jalen, Eddie. I would like,

2170
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to read this from Jalen, and I'm not

2171
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 1: discrediting Jalen at all, but I want you, Eddie, to

2172
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 1: I'm going to hand it you the responsibility of how

2173
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 1: you would answer this inquiry. You ready, Oh, you don't

2174
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 1: want me to answer it or to read it for you,

2175
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 1: Dear Jake. I understand that you love to do your

2176
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 1: teasers before breaks to keep people listening, but you got

2177
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: to understand a lot of the people listening to you

2178
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 1: or on a break from work and don't have time

2179
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 1: to sit through the eternal commercial breaks to wait for

2180
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,400
Speaker 1: you to reveal something that you could easily just mention

2181
01:53:55,560 --> 01:54:00,640
Speaker 1: right before the break, just something to consider. And he

2182
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 1: thought on that, Eddie, that's unfortunately not how this business

2183
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 1: works joining us now in the program. He's the voice

2184
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colt said, he is Matt Taylor. Matt,

2185
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 1: would you agree with that? He's assessment there?

2186
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 4: Man, oh man, I what was a gentleman's name? Jalen, Yeah, Jalen.

2187
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 3: Jalen didn't go.

2188
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 4: To broadcasting school. I don't think he's got a He

2189
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 4: didn't get a minor in broadcast journalism or uh or communication.

2190
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 2: You don't. One on one.

2191
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 1: I get it, though, I mean I I do understand

2192
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: where he's coming from.

2193
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 2: Believe you me. You know what way he can do,

2194
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 2: Matt and Jake, if he's interested, he can always download

2195
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 2: the podcast and listen to it that way. What was teased? Indeed?

2196
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 4: Correct, pull up the YouTube stream, you know, mark the tape,

2197
01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 4: you find out where you left off, and hit the

2198
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 4: little scroll and you know you're fine.

2199
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 2: I'd like to know this, Matt.

2200
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 1: Give me the song that comes on the radio that

2201
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 1: you're driving and you get to your house and you

2202
01:54:58,240 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 1: go ahead and you sit in the driveway because the

2203
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 1: song gate over.

2204
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 4: Oh Man, there's a lot of them. I love these

2205
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 4: questions from you, man, They're always good. Well, you just

2206
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 4: played Tom Petty, So anything by Tom Petty. You know,

2207
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 4: like if it's uh listened to her heart, that one's

2208
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 4: a good one. I'll tell you what, I'll.

2209
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 3: Give you a song.

2210
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 4: I say this all the time if people roll their

2211
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 4: eyes at me because they know me. But if I

2212
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 4: heard if I heard I heard it in a love

2213
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 4: song by Marshall Tucker every day for the rest of

2214
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 4: my life, I would not get tired of.

2215
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 1: That song every time we have you on how's that

2216
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 1: that tell?

2217
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 4: Yeah? And and I won't back down by Tom Petty

2218
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 4: the song that I heard. If I heard it every

2219
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 4: single day for the rest of my life, I still

2220
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 4: wouldn't get.

2221
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 2: Sick of it.

2222
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 4: Okay, fah yeah, how about you.

2223
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 2: Man? I go in cycles, you know what I mean?

2224
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I I think if I had to pick,

2225
01:55:59,120 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 1: and it's such an unoriginal answer because I think it

2226
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:03,920
Speaker 1: was listed as like the number one song ever by

2227
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:07,760
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone. If I had to pick my favorite song

2228
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:10,880
Speaker 1: of all time, it's probably like a Rolling Stone by

2229
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan.

2230
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna find you, but but I really like

2231
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 2: Hello by Oasis.

2232
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 4: Okay, I've got to I've got another obscure one now

2233
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 4: that I've had time to stew on it. Okay, and

2234
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 4: I did this one time. I'm man enough to admit

2235
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 4: it because I'm weird, as you know. But one time

2236
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 4: I was shopping by myself and a Kroger and this

2237
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 4: song came on and I hadn't heard it in like

2238
01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 4: four years or something.

2239
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 1: And do you normally shops with a group at Kroger?

2240
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 2: I mean, is that I.

2241
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 1: Is Tuesday your Kroger shopping club day? This was a Wednesday?

2242
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 2: Is that this one?

2243
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:53,000
Speaker 4: I just had to go by myself.

2244
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 1: Everybody failed anyway, so as you were, no.

2245
01:56:57,680 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 4: So like I'm in the serial aisle, you know, I'm

2246
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 4: in there to get like two or three things on

2247
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 4: my way home from work. One day, I'm in this

2248
01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 4: serial aisle or whatever, and I hear feeling satisfied by Boston.

2249
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 4: I don't know why. It just sort of like hit me,

2250
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 4: like I have heard this song in like five years.

2251
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 4: I just stopped dead in my tracks and I just

2252
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 4: sat in the aisle by myself and listened to the

2253
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 4: song until is over. See that's like one of those moments.

2254
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And to see and Matt, this is why

2255
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 1: you and I are and this is going to be

2256
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:27,640
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. I realized This is why we're kind of

2257
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 1: spirit animals, because you are observant like myself, you know

2258
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like you notice, I think I'm convinced

2259
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 1: that ninety eight percent of all people, not only you know,

2260
01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: aren't losers in shop at Kroger alone. But don't don't

2261
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 1: hear that.

2262
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yeah?

2263
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I'm very Yeah, I'm with you.

2264
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:50,960
Speaker 4: Like I think I'm very much always sort of cognizant

2265
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 4: of my surroundings. I'm a very observant person, and I'm

2266
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 4: I observe human nature. I like to think I have

2267
01:57:57,160 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 4: a master's degree in common sense and body language. So like,

2268
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:03,280
Speaker 4: if if I'm talking to you right now and you're

2269
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 4: not picking up what I'm putting down, We're probably not gonna,

2270
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 4: you know, right right, We're probably not gonna, you know,

2271
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:11,880
Speaker 4: continue this conversation. So like I have the the the

2272
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 4: mental capacity to say, all right, moving on. You know,

2273
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 4: I can make chit chat with just about everybody. But like,

2274
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 4: if you're not jiving on me, no big deal. I'll

2275
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 4: just keep keep it going and see what sticks with

2276
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 4: somebody else.

2277
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:25,840
Speaker 2: You know, we mutually know some people that don't read

2278
01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 2: the room well, right, Why are you talking about right?

2279
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, uh Eddie, Okay, he always makes things

2280
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 4: incredibly awkward.

2281
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:35,200
Speaker 2: Matt.

2282
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 1: My first question about this game on Sunday, and it

2283
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with what's going to take You

2284
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:41,120
Speaker 1: have or have not called a game in so far?

2285
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: My apologies for not recalling you have right, No, this

2286
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 1: will be the first one, okay, And I here's why

2287
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 1: I ask. It has I don't know if you've been

2288
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 1: to it or been by it, but it has a

2289
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 1: massive not unlike you know, Vegas has this now certainly

2290
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 1: Jerry World does. It has a massive video board that

2291
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 1: literally seemingly is like the length of the field. And

2292
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm curious when you're calling a game depending on it.

2293
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 1: And I don't know where the press box is for

2294
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:13,760
Speaker 1: this one, but do you ever find yourself actually glued

2295
01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:16,000
Speaker 1: almost as much to the video board as to the

2296
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 1: field itself.

2297
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the thing that you're referring to, I read

2298
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:22,600
Speaker 4: about it, and I've seen pictures of it. Obviously they

2299
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 4: call it, I don't know if they still do, but

2300
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:27,640
Speaker 4: when the building first opened they called it the oculus.

2301
01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 4: This it's like a ring, you know, a circular jumbo

2302
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 4: tron in the middle of the field. You know that

2303
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 4: hangs over the middle of the field, I should say, so, yeah,

2304
01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 4: our I do know where the press box is and

2305
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,960
Speaker 4: where the radio booth location is. It's not great. It's

2306
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 4: very very high, and it's in the corner, which is

2307
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 4: sort of like doubly bad. So yeah, I'll fully admit

2308
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:55,240
Speaker 4: that when the ball is on the other side of

2309
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 4: the field furthest away from my vantage point, I'll be

2310
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 4: looking at every I'll be looking at you know, I'll

2311
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 4: use my eyes, I'll use the binoculars, I'll use the

2312
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:06,080
Speaker 4: the oculus.

2313
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

2314
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 4: And I'll have a monitor in front of me in

2315
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:10,200
Speaker 4: the in the in the radio booths as well. So

2316
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:12,920
Speaker 4: between all of those things, that's what you have to

2317
02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 4: do to make it work. And you know, we've talked

2318
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 4: about this before. More and more new newer stadiums are

2319
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:22,600
Speaker 4: putting the media and broadcast setups in the corner. Uh.

2320
02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:26,800
Speaker 4: And they're using the prime locations for vi ip club

2321
02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:29,880
Speaker 4: area and season ticket holders and all those things. And

2322
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:31,560
Speaker 4: I get it right, that's those are the people that

2323
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:33,880
Speaker 4: pay the bills and sponsors and stuff like that. So

2324
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:36,560
Speaker 4: you got to make do you know, I'm over just

2325
02:00:37,160 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 4: you know, crying about it because there's nothing you can do.

2326
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:42,840
Speaker 4: It's only gonna get worse. So you know there's bad

2327
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 4: You mentioned Dallas. Uh, the Raiders is not terrible. It's high,

2328
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:52,080
Speaker 4: and I can deal with high. Washington is terrible. Pittsburgh's

2329
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 4: not good, Arizona's not good. Uh where else? Minnesota is

2330
02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 4: in the corner. So you know, I've done enough game

2331
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 4: to be in bad locations. Just to make it work,

2332
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:05,480
Speaker 4: you have to kind of like pause and you know,

2333
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:09,640
Speaker 4: make sure you have the exact line of scrimmage and

2334
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 4: the exact yard markers because it is a little bit

2335
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:15,280
Speaker 4: of a different harsh angle. Sometimes you know, the ten looks.

2336
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:18,240
Speaker 2: Away from you, right, you know, if they're going away

2337
02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:18,920
Speaker 2: from you, it's tough.

2338
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 4: So you know you can You could definitely if you're

2339
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:25,080
Speaker 4: just listening to me. I think if you're just listening

2340
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 4: to a broadcast that's in the corner, you can tell

2341
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:31,560
Speaker 4: because they tap dance a little bit on air, giving

2342
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:35,240
Speaker 4: you more details until they definitively know where the line

2343
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 4: of scrimmage is or the gain of the ball because

2344
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 4: you just can't see it very well. But in our case,

2345
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 4: Layer is on the field, she can talk to me

2346
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 4: on the sideline in my headset. So she's helping spot

2347
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 4: on the far end of the field and helping identify

2348
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:50,120
Speaker 4: new line of scrimmage and stuff like that. So we

2349
02:01:50,240 --> 02:01:53,840
Speaker 4: make it work. But yeah, there's there's better vantage points

2350
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:54,920
Speaker 4: in the NFL, for sure.

2351
02:01:55,120 --> 02:01:57,000
Speaker 1: But by the way, this studio I'm in right now

2352
02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 1: is round, so there's no corner. But I tap dance

2353
02:01:59,160 --> 02:02:01,760
Speaker 1: three hours a day, just so you know, I know,

2354
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 1: you know. Well, thanks, okay, matt In terms of players

2355
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 1: whose names you're going to call a lot for the

2356
02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 1: Rams offensively on Sunday, it goes without saying that, Matthew

2357
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:17,880
Speaker 1: Stafford and we've been talking about it over the course

2358
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 1: of today. He has two receivers that he is throwing to,

2359
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:25,440
Speaker 1: understandably so with the most frequency nearly seventy percent of

2360
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:29,640
Speaker 1: the time. What player, if you are calling their name

2361
02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:31,879
Speaker 1: a lot on Sunday when the Rams have the football,

2362
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,760
Speaker 1: is it bad news for Indianapolis because it's means that

2363
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 1: LA is opening up their playbook.

2364
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:40,440
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think in the slot, Puka Nakua,

2365
02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:42,800
Speaker 4: you know, he's one of the best receivers, but certainly

2366
02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:45,200
Speaker 4: one of the best slot receivers in the NFL. In fact,

2367
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 4: already leaves the NFL in both catches and receiving yards.

2368
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:51,880
Speaker 4: He's on pace for more receiving yards this year than

2369
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:53,560
Speaker 4: he had when he was a rookie when he broke

2370
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:56,600
Speaker 4: the record, the NFL rookie record for both catches and

2371
02:02:56,760 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 4: receiving yards by a first year player. So he is

2372
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,840
Speaker 4: is definitely somebody you're gonna have to be concerned with.

2373
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 4: And you know, lighting up in the slot primarily as

2374
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:07,720
Speaker 4: he does, it'd be great to have one of the

2375
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 4: best nickel corners in the game, but it sounds like

2376
02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:12,800
Speaker 4: the Colts will not have that luxury with Kenny Moore

2377
02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:15,240
Speaker 4: of the second he's got that calf injury that's kind of,

2378
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 4: according to Shane Stike and now kind of morphed into

2379
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:21,600
Speaker 4: the combination of a calf and an achilles and so

2380
02:03:22,040 --> 02:03:24,840
Speaker 4: that's you know, anytime you hear the achilles word around here,

2381
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 4: you know, people start shaking a little bit because of

2382
02:03:27,880 --> 02:03:31,320
Speaker 4: what's happened in the past with injuries to superstars in

2383
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:35,840
Speaker 4: this market, most specifically recently with Tyrese Halliburton. So it's understandable.

2384
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 4: But they say he's not going to go on ir,

2385
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:40,920
Speaker 4: which is good. So it's going to be kind of

2386
02:03:41,000 --> 02:03:43,240
Speaker 4: a week to week thing here going forward, but I

2387
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:45,200
Speaker 4: think it's safe to assume that he might miss a

2388
02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:49,760
Speaker 4: game or two, and in this game, obviously that's less

2389
02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:53,800
Speaker 4: than desirable because you just want to have his experience

2390
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 4: out there, his savviness and his playmaking ability, as we

2391
02:03:57,560 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 4: saw in that first series against Tennessee, taking that inner

2392
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 4: perception back, you know, thirty plus yards. But you know

2393
02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 4: they don't just sit around and wait and hope and

2394
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:09,080
Speaker 4: you know, sort of cross their fingers. They go bold.

2395
02:04:09,120 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 4: Bringing into Mike Hilton kind of experience with lou Ana

2396
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 4: Rumo in this defense, spent four years with Cincinnati, he's

2397
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:17,680
Speaker 4: on the practice squad. I think it's a no brainer

2398
02:04:17,720 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 4: as of right now to think that he's going to

2399
02:04:19,320 --> 02:04:22,840
Speaker 4: get brought up on Saturday. With the standard elevation there.

2400
02:04:23,240 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 4: Makai Blackman has started, or I should say it's played

2401
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 4: some at nickel in his career, but he's been primarily

2402
02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:33,440
Speaker 4: an outside guy. So they do have options, but you know,

2403
02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:36,520
Speaker 4: it's you would definitely want Kenny Moore out there in

2404
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:38,760
Speaker 4: a game like this trying to shut down I think

2405
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 4: the premier slot receiver in the NFL right now.

2406
02:04:41,720 --> 02:04:44,080
Speaker 1: You know the Matt I mentioned this earlier, and I'm

2407
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:47,200
Speaker 1: curious your thought on this. If you were to survey

2408
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 1: general managers in the NFL and we're going to take

2409
02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:54,840
Speaker 1: the with no disrespect for what I'm about to ask,

2410
02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the punter kicker holder combination out

2411
02:04:58,120 --> 02:05:01,160
Speaker 1: of the equation as a potential answer here. Okay, But

2412
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:03,960
Speaker 1: if you'd surveyed general managers at the beginning of the

2413
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:07,800
Speaker 1: season and said, I'm looking into a crystal ball and

2414
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:10,080
Speaker 1: over the course of the year, you're going to have

2415
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:14,800
Speaker 1: one unit room want one group in terms of your

2416
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 1: football roster where you're going to have to go really

2417
02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 1: deep and possibly into midweek acquisition players to play on Sunday.

2418
02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 1: So you've got the wide receiver room, you've got the

2419
02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 1: offensive line room, the defensive line room, et cetera. What

2420
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:33,960
Speaker 1: room do you believe general managers would most select to

2421
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:36,120
Speaker 1: have that be the case for them, because it's the

2422
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:39,240
Speaker 1: one where you can have the least fall off with

2423
02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:42,440
Speaker 1: guys that you are planting in on a Sunday that

2424
02:05:42,560 --> 02:05:43,879
Speaker 1: you acquired on a Tuesday.

2425
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:50,880
Speaker 4: Oh Man, good question. You know it's obviously not quarter.

2426
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:53,800
Speaker 4: I mean, the premium positions are out right, so across

2427
02:05:53,840 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 4: those off premium positions are quarterback, receiver, defensive end, and cornerback,

2428
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:05,600
Speaker 4: left tackle, you know, throw in right tackle in there

2429
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 4: as well. So that leaves you with a lot of

2430
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:11,720
Speaker 4: positions on defense. I guess gunned tohead, Like if I'm

2431
02:06:11,720 --> 02:06:14,360
Speaker 4: a general manager and I'm answering that question for myself,

2432
02:06:14,440 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 4: and I'm not answering for you know, Chris Ballard or

2433
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 4: Less Sneed or somebody, right Like, if I have to

2434
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:26,000
Speaker 4: answer just for me, I would say probably linebacker, in

2435
02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:32,120
Speaker 4: no particular order, linebacker, safety, and running back.

2436
02:06:32,240 --> 02:06:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2437
02:06:32,440 --> 02:06:36,200
Speaker 1: See, I thought defensive backfield in general, right only in

2438
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 1: safety would be specifically the best there. But I think

2439
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:44,120
Speaker 1: it's any position, Matt to your point where you're not

2440
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 1: overly reliant on the feel or the chemistry and the

2441
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:51,320
Speaker 1: movement of the guys around you within your unit.

2442
02:06:51,400 --> 02:06:52,160
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

2443
02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does, And you know it's one of those again,

2444
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:59,120
Speaker 4: not to downplay anything. I mean, playing linebacker in most

2445
02:06:59,200 --> 02:07:03,040
Speaker 4: defensive skin means it's pretty transferable, right, I'm not trying

2446
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 4: to dumb down the position, but you get what I'm saying. Like,

2447
02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:09,400
Speaker 4: you know, it's you know, whether you're playing in a

2448
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:12,919
Speaker 4: in a base four three or you know, a variation

2449
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 4: of a five min front at times, plane linebacker is

2450
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:20,280
Speaker 4: pretty much transferable. Same thing at safety. You know, running

2451
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:23,800
Speaker 4: back obviously has seen a lot of It's been a

2452
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:27,160
Speaker 4: polarizing position just because at the top end you've got

2453
02:07:27,200 --> 02:07:30,240
Speaker 4: guys like Saekwon Barkley and Jonathan Taylor and Derrick Henry

2454
02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:32,960
Speaker 4: that deserve all of the money. But you know, for

2455
02:07:33,080 --> 02:07:35,320
Speaker 4: the last ten years or so, you know, that's been

2456
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:37,680
Speaker 4: one of the positions at least on offense that's been

2457
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 4: you know, sort of downgraded. And you know, we've seen

2458
02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:45,000
Speaker 4: the idea of going cheap and young adapt position, you know,

2459
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 4: paying guys or using guys that are on your rookie

2460
02:07:47,720 --> 02:07:51,600
Speaker 4: contracts because you're gonna get similar production from a young

2461
02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:54,920
Speaker 4: guy compared to you know, a guy you give a

2462
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 4: second contract to. You know, like, if you can get

2463
02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 4: eighty percent out of an undrafted rookie free agent running back,

2464
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:03,200
Speaker 4: why do I have to pay somebody that's going into

2465
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:05,960
Speaker 4: a second contract that has you know, whatever it is,

2466
02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:08,160
Speaker 4: six hundred and seven hundred carries under their belt in

2467
02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:09,880
Speaker 4: the NFL and a lot of wear and tear. So

2468
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:14,040
Speaker 4: that's generally speaking kind of the ideology there. But yeah,

2469
02:08:14,080 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you never want to be fit in any place.

2470
02:08:16,320 --> 02:08:17,960
Speaker 4: But you know, if you have to choose, I guess,

2471
02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:20,720
Speaker 4: or to be linebacker safety and then depending on who

2472
02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:22,320
Speaker 4: you got a running back, you can make it work

2473
02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:23,480
Speaker 4: with a platoon situation.

2474
02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to let you read one more listener comment here, Matt,

2475
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:29,000
Speaker 1: and I'll have you this time. Last time it was Eddie,

2476
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,400
Speaker 1: I'll have you respond to this one. Hey, Jake, do

2477
02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:33,960
Speaker 1: you really think single people that shop at Kroger are losers?

2478
02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 4: Well, you're putting me in a bad spot here.

2479
02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 1: They're asking if I think that because and I'm like,

2480
02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:47,520
Speaker 1: you'll have my back here, Matt, that I was simply

2481
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 1: playing on the fact that you mentioned being at Kroger

2482
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:52,480
Speaker 1: by yourself, and I was making the implication of like,

2483
02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 1: isn't that how most people go to Kroger? Like in

2484
02:08:55,000 --> 02:08:57,480
Speaker 1: other words, I was actually saying that's the norm, not

2485
02:08:57,720 --> 02:09:01,040
Speaker 1: the I was. I was being overly sarca. Now, Matt,

2486
02:09:01,240 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 1: you didn't think I was calling you a loser, did you?

2487
02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:04,520
Speaker 4: Well?

2488
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:08,720
Speaker 2: No, not that I'm overly worried about said thing. Right.

2489
02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:11,120
Speaker 4: No, I don't know how about you. But if you,

2490
02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:13,600
Speaker 4: if you ever do shop with another person, why is

2491
02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:15,880
Speaker 4: it that you always come home with way more than

2492
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:19,160
Speaker 4: what you anticipated or what you wanted to if you

2493
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:20,400
Speaker 4: were just going to go by yourself.

2494
02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:22,160
Speaker 2: And the other thing is just if me.

2495
02:09:22,400 --> 02:09:24,200
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing if you shop with someone else,

2496
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 1: Like if Shannon and I go, like, you know, we

2497
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:27,760
Speaker 1: go to the store or whatever, okay, and I'm like,

2498
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, first off, i can't go more than two

2499
02:09:30,360 --> 02:09:32,240
Speaker 1: aisles before I'm like, look, i know what I got

2500
02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:34,080
Speaker 1: to get and I'll be right back. I'm going to

2501
02:09:34,160 --> 02:09:36,640
Speaker 1: go down to such as and then and here's the thing.

2502
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:39,800
Speaker 1: Then you can't find each other. Doesn't that ninety percent

2503
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:41,160
Speaker 1: of the time end up with a text from one

2504
02:09:41,240 --> 02:09:42,680
Speaker 1: or the other like I'm in the check out now

2505
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:44,840
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, you can't find them any It's literally,

2506
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:45,360
Speaker 1: it's like this.

2507
02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:46,840
Speaker 2: It's like a corn maze.

2508
02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:49,400
Speaker 4: I can't I can't tell you how many times I've

2509
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:53,080
Speaker 4: gotten the where are you in all caps? You know,

2510
02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:57,600
Speaker 4: about about thirteen about thirteen minutes away from being separated,

2511
02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 4: Like I'm in I'm in the dairy, you know for

2512
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:06,160
Speaker 4: Mexican Cheeseco night. Yeah, she's buying she's bottle, she's buying

2513
02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:09,280
Speaker 4: three cases of bottle of water and also too, Like,

2514
02:10:09,320 --> 02:10:11,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if this happens to anybody else, but

2515
02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:13,760
Speaker 4: it just seems like every time I step into a

2516
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:16,400
Speaker 4: Kroger or a big store like Target or Meyer, I

2517
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:19,240
Speaker 4: immediately have to go to the bathroom. So I usually

2518
02:10:19,320 --> 02:10:21,600
Speaker 4: just go to the bathroom and wander off without telling

2519
02:10:21,640 --> 02:10:24,280
Speaker 4: her where I am there. So we just crisscross each

2520
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:26,360
Speaker 4: other all over the store for a good twin, and that.

2521
02:10:26,440 --> 02:10:29,280
Speaker 1: Becomes tricky because sometimes they're upfront by the registers, or

2522
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:31,320
Speaker 1: they might be back near the dairy right.

2523
02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, or they might not have any at all, and

2524
02:10:33,720 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 4: then you just walk the entire store and look for

2525
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:37,160
Speaker 4: a bathroom that doesn't exist.

2526
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 2: That is also a possibility, all right, last thing after this,

2527
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:43,280
Speaker 2: I have something from that after.

2528
02:10:43,200 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 1: This, Matt, the cereal when you were in the cereal out,

2529
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:48,360
Speaker 1: give me the last guilty pleasure cereal that you bought

2530
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:50,120
Speaker 1: strictly because your parents didn't let you have it as

2531
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 1: a kid. And you're like, I'm a man now I'm

2532
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:52,560
Speaker 1: eating it, and you bought it.

2533
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:55,000
Speaker 4: Oh fruity pebble bingo, baby.

2534
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:58,720
Speaker 2: I have no off sweach, no off switch with those

2535
02:10:58,800 --> 02:10:59,680
Speaker 2: bad boys. None.

2536
02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter how many bulls or how many scoops

2537
02:11:03,600 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 4: like you never get full.

2538
02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:08,120
Speaker 1: It's the Donado's pizza like the same thing, Like it

2539
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:09,920
Speaker 1: doesn't fill you up. It's weird, like you know what

2540
02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean. It's not high quality necessarily or bad, but

2541
02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:14,960
Speaker 1: you know you're just like it's just there, right.

2542
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:17,320
Speaker 4: Just do you still feel hungry? So you just keep

2543
02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:22,240
Speaker 4: housing you know, terrible sugar packed you know, non non

2544
02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:25,280
Speaker 4: nutrient filled substance.

2545
02:11:28,320 --> 02:11:31,520
Speaker 2: And the rainbow color is always esthetically pleasing, all right,

2546
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:33,440
Speaker 2: Eddie Matt, Hold are your.

2547
02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:35,600
Speaker 7: Kids eight and five?

2548
02:11:35,880 --> 02:11:38,960
Speaker 2: Are you familiar with the movie K Pop Demon Hunters?

2549
02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:40,800
Speaker 3: Dude?

2550
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:43,640
Speaker 4: I am way too familiar with K Pop Demon Hunters? Okay,

2551
02:11:43,680 --> 02:11:44,920
Speaker 4: So are you getting the soda Pop?

2552
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:46,400
Speaker 2: Dang it, you stole it.

2553
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2554
02:11:46,680 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 2: I was just saying, are your soda pop now? And

2555
02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:50,560
Speaker 2: I just think of you and Rick Venturi and the

2556
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:54,120
Speaker 2: McDonald's commercial. Yeah.

2557
02:11:54,160 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 4: I hate, I hate to burst your bubble, but yeah,

2558
02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:58,880
Speaker 4: I listened to Soda Pop about thirteen times a day.

2559
02:11:59,320 --> 02:11:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2560
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Speaker 4: And then my little guy, he's really big into Sonic

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02:12:02,360 --> 02:12:04,720
Speaker 4: the Hedgehog right now. So Sonic has a theme song,

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02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:08,400
Speaker 4: so I know that by heart. So yeah, you'll get

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02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:08,960
Speaker 4: there one day.

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02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:09,200
Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: It's they that the phases are short, but they are impactful.

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02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:17,840
Speaker 4: They leave, they leave scars. Man, like you wake up

2567
02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:19,320
Speaker 4: in the middle of the night just singing all this

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02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:22,920
Speaker 4: stuff that they're into and it goes quick. But man,

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02:12:23,040 --> 02:12:26,120
Speaker 4: it's they're into it really really hard for just a

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Speaker 4: quick amount of time.

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Speaker 1: But how long were you in the studio to film

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Speaker 1: a McDonald's commercial.

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Speaker 4: By the way, we were in there four hours because

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02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:36,720
Speaker 4: they had to shoot that from five different angles. They

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02:12:36,760 --> 02:12:39,560
Speaker 4: had one camera. The crew was great, they were awesome,

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02:12:40,040 --> 02:12:41,560
Speaker 4: and we were in there a long time, but not

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02:12:41,680 --> 02:12:44,320
Speaker 4: because you know, they were messing around and weren't professional.

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02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:46,960
Speaker 4: But they only had one camera and so we had

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02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:49,720
Speaker 4: to shoot it from like five different angles. They had

2580
02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:53,200
Speaker 4: to shoot it from like my vantage point, Rick's vantage

2581
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:56,320
Speaker 4: point in front, behind it. It was a whole ordeal.

2582
02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:58,040
Speaker 1: Well, it was worth it because Rick told me he

2583
02:12:58,120 --> 02:12:59,840
Speaker 1: now has seven franchises as trade.

2584
02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:00,720
Speaker 2: So I hope you got the same.

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02:13:01,120 --> 02:13:04,080
Speaker 1: All right, Matt Colts Rams coming up. It'll be in

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02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:07,040
Speaker 1: and out Burger along with your McDonald's, probably in LA

2587
02:13:07,160 --> 02:13:09,480
Speaker 1: But we look forward to the game and certainly appreciate

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02:13:09,560 --> 02:13:10,280
Speaker 1: the time as always.

2589
02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:13,600
Speaker 4: All right, boys, appreciate you guys having the weekend that.

2590
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Speaker 1: Is the Independent Shopping Matt Taylor joining us. We'll come back,

2591
02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:18,640
Speaker 1: We'll do it. The Crossover brought to you by Love,

2592
02:13:18,680 --> 02:13:21,880
Speaker 1: Heating and Air and handed off to John next on

2593
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:25,960
Speaker 1: the program tomorrow. By the way, you know, Daniel Jones

2594
02:13:26,440 --> 02:13:28,600
Speaker 1: had a change of scenery and has kind of been

2595
02:13:28,680 --> 02:13:31,560
Speaker 1: reborn as a quarterback so far and one guy I

2596
02:13:31,600 --> 02:13:34,040
Speaker 1: think you can say that about that. There was a

2597
02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:36,480
Speaker 1: lot of expectation for him in Indianapolis, and then it

2598
02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 1: was elsewhere where he really flourished when he went to

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02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:40,560
Speaker 1: Atlanta and then the Raiders. Jeff George is going to

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02:13:40,960 --> 02:13:44,040
Speaker 1: join us tomorrow because I want his perspective on how

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02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:46,080
Speaker 1: that fresh start can help you out. Stephanie White going

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02:13:46,120 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 1: to be on the program tomorrow as well. John is

2603
02:13:49,040 --> 02:13:51,520
Speaker 1: out at Slippery Noodle with Marty Bacon and the Boys.

2604
02:13:51,600 --> 02:13:54,200
Speaker 1: One of the greatest, if not the greatest establishments in

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02:13:54,240 --> 02:13:56,839
Speaker 1: Central in the end of the oldest bar in Indiana

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02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:59,560
Speaker 1: in terms of the bar top itself and it is

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02:13:59,680 --> 02:14:01,280
Speaker 1: the Crow Solver and the Handoff brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Love Heating an Air, Love Dash, HVAC dot Com. John,

2609
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:06,320
Speaker 1: what's lined up on the Big Show today?

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02:14:07,080 --> 02:14:10,000
Speaker 7: Well, I'm going to interview a ghost because this place

2611
02:14:10,120 --> 02:14:13,760
Speaker 7: is haunted. That's right, do you think, Yeah, we'll go

2612
02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:15,120
Speaker 7: upstairs and interview your ghost.

2613
02:14:15,640 --> 02:14:15,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

2614
02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:17,560
Speaker 1: And there's two ghosts. One of them was an old

2615
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:19,360
Speaker 1: railroad worker I think, and the other one was part

2616
02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:20,720
Speaker 1: of the brothel that used to be there, like one

2617
02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:21,440
Speaker 1: hundred fift.

2618
02:14:21,280 --> 02:14:21,840
Speaker 2: Years for brothel.

2619
02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:23,160
Speaker 1: I might go up and do some of that too,

2620
02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:25,000
Speaker 1: if you're not careful there you go.

2621
02:14:26,000 --> 02:14:29,320
Speaker 7: By the way, our mutual friend Matthew is here from

2622
02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:33,760
Speaker 7: Matthew Maine and says, you need to get down here. Okay,

2623
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:36,280
Speaker 7: because Matthew has not talked to you in a while,

2624
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:40,520
Speaker 7: but you need to buy Matthew some pretzel bites. Okay,

2625
02:14:40,640 --> 02:14:44,040
Speaker 7: stat fair enough, fair enough, Matthew is saying, so, yeah,

2626
02:14:44,160 --> 02:14:47,000
Speaker 7: you come on down here. Hey, I got Brent Halverson

2627
02:14:47,080 --> 02:14:49,200
Speaker 7: sitting next to me right now eating cottage cheese.

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02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:49,560
Speaker 2: Jake.

2629
02:14:49,720 --> 02:14:52,280
Speaker 7: It is incredible what we're doing with the world with

2630
02:14:52,360 --> 02:14:53,560
Speaker 7: beauty cheese right now.

2631
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:56,120
Speaker 2: Beautiful swinging the nation. You guys will be doing some

2632
02:14:56,240 --> 02:14:57,080
Speaker 2: picks today, won't you.

2633
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Speaker 7: We're doing our week four picks coming up a we

2634
02:15:00,080 --> 02:15:02,560
Speaker 7: got a feel for the Colts and the Rams in

2635
02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:04,240
Speaker 7: Southern California Sunday Jake.

2636
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Speaker 1: I actually think the Colts could win. Yeah, are you

2637
02:15:08,760 --> 02:15:11,400
Speaker 1: gonna pick them if they don't turn the football over?

2638
02:15:11,480 --> 02:15:13,000
Speaker 1: I think they win twenty three to twenty.

2639
02:15:12,880 --> 02:15:16,400
Speaker 2: One if they don't turn the football over.

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02:15:16,600 --> 02:15:19,320
Speaker 1: Okay, they've been they've been been really good at not

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02:15:19,480 --> 02:15:20,240
Speaker 1: turning the ball over.

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02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:23,400
Speaker 7: I got to make my picks on Thursday, which is

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02:15:23,480 --> 02:15:26,200
Speaker 7: good to see you guys. But yeah, I let him

2644
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:27,800
Speaker 7: in a little bit of my lead blocker. We got

2645
02:15:28,120 --> 02:15:30,600
Speaker 7: some impd guys down here that are eating lunch, hang

2646
02:15:30,640 --> 02:15:32,760
Speaker 7: it out with us, tell me yes from coaches. Jake

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02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:36,120
Speaker 7: is here as well, but really good dudes down here

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Speaker 7: with us.

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02:15:37,080 --> 02:15:37,360
Speaker 1: But I.

2650
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Speaker 7: Think this is clearly gonna be the toughest test and

2651
02:15:41,200 --> 02:15:44,480
Speaker 7: for just nothing original right there. But I think it's

2652
02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:46,560
Speaker 7: going to be really tough for the Colts to get done.

2653
02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:48,640
Speaker 1: But it's tough for me to make this pick on Thursday.

2654
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. Know everything you need to know.

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02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm allowing myself to hedge between now and tomorrow.

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02:15:55,040 --> 02:15:55,480
Speaker 7: That's cool.

2657
02:15:55,560 --> 02:15:56,680
Speaker 1: I understand that I do.

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02:15:57,040 --> 02:16:01,680
Speaker 7: Tomorrow Bearringer's Tavern and Antoine and our good friend mutual

2659
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:04,160
Speaker 7: friend a Paris gonna join us down there for a

2660
02:16:04,160 --> 02:16:06,560
Speaker 7: little bit welcoming up at three tomorrow parent just tevert,

2661
02:16:06,600 --> 02:16:08,160
Speaker 7: so maybe we'll do a little cross talk with the

2662
02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:09,400
Speaker 7: former cult.

2663
02:16:09,200 --> 02:16:12,560
Speaker 1: Safety love down there with us as well. All right, John,

2664
02:16:12,600 --> 02:16:15,000
Speaker 1: we'll be out there at Slippery Noodle. Say hi to

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02:16:15,080 --> 02:16:17,160
Speaker 1: Marty and everybody when you come by. Matthew will be

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Speaker 1: there as well, and John will take it over next.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody today listening to a querying company.