1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: You're going to pick a fight in politics, do it 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: on these issues. Don't threaten or terrorize people. Don't post 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: their private information online. It's not the reasonable way to 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: win your argument. Indiana lawmakers they passed a new law 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: and they make it a crime to dock someone. That's 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: when a person's private information is shared online to threaten 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: or harm them. Governor Brawn signing this bill into law. 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Senate rolled back one point. Simply posting someone's personal info 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: with harmful intent is now a Class A misdemeanor, and 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: if the target is a state lawmaker and the dosing 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: leads to serious injury, private property damage, or encourages a 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: crime against them, it now becomes a level five felony, 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: which is a much more serious charge. So I don't 14 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: don't docs. I'm on board with that. Don't do that. 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: That's not how you win your argument. But and here's 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: the big butt. This is another instance of lawmakers putting 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: themselves above everyone else. 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what really disgusted me about this. And look, 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: I was disgusted like everybody else during the redistricting fight 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: last year when a lot of these lawmakers were swatted 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: and had their home addresses and phone numbers docks, and yes, 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: we should do things to prevent that, but we should 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 2: do things to prevent that for everyone in this state, 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: not just long. I absolutely hate when these lawmakers put 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: themselves above everybody else. So here's where we're at right now. 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: You harass a citizen, that's a misdemeanor. You harass a politician, 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: that's a felony. No, no, no, that's absolutely wrong. Everything 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: about that is wrong. And that's why I have the 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: biggest problem with this. You either do it for everybody 30 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: or you do it for nobody. No special treatment for 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: these lawmakers. It drives me absolutely crazy. 32 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: Well, it reminds me of when Bohachik got that DUI 33 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: and he had constitutional immunity and he was able to 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: hide it for months and months. 35 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and why. 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Because he's special, because he's a lawmaker, because you pay 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: him to represent you, and that gave him a privilege 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: that you, as an ordinary taxpayer, don't have. Same situation here. 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: Exact same situation here. And what was so frustrating about 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: the Mike Bilhatchick DUI or OWI or whatever it was 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: last year was the fact that even though he had, 42 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: you know, legislative immunity, under the constitution. He could have 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: come out and said, you know what, Melp, this happened, 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: and I admit it, and I want to be transparent 45 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: and get this information out there. But he didn't. He 46 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: sat on it for months. Oh and by the way, 47 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: other Republican lawmakers in leadership sat on it for months 48 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: until the legislative session was over. A regular person, you 49 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: think if I were to get an OWI or DWI, 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: I'd be able to sit on it for months hide 51 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: it from my employer. Absolutely not. It would be out 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: there all over the place. So this is just another example. 53 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: And again, well hotchick could have come out, could have 54 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: done the right thing and been transparent about it right 55 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: after it happened and said yep. 56 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: But he didn't have to. He didn't have to, so 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: he chose not to. 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 2: So he chose not to. But we got the bodycam 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: footage anyway of him, you know, acting the way he 60 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: did on that bodycam footage, which was which was completely egregious. 61 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: I'll give you another example. State lawmakers can carry guns 62 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: inside the state capitol. Sure citizens cannot. And in fact 63 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: we know that because there was that famous video a 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: couple of years ago where Jim Lucas was showing it 65 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: off in the state House. Metal detectors for everybody else. 66 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: This is another perfect example of that. Again, regular citizens, misdemeanor, politician, 67 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 2: it's a felony. 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: Supporters say the law is meant to deter threats and 69 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: intimidation and also protect officials and their families. Yes, I'm 70 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: completely on board with protecting the officials, and you shouldn't 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: be doxing anybody, putting anybody in danger. But again, this 72 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: is just another example of rules for thee but not 73 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: for me. Well, they're different than you, they're special. 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: Well, look, there are other people I'd like to protect too. 75 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: What about police officers? Their law against that, because guess what, 76 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: I'm more interested in collected protected police officers than I 77 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: am politicians, more interested in protected firefighters than I am politicians. 78 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: But this should be an all or nothing proposition. You 79 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: make the law for all the citizens in this state, 80 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: or you don't carve out special exceptions just for politicians. 81 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: You mean the politicians, the people who make the laws, 82 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: made a law that protects them, but not you. 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: Shocking. 84 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they say the law aligns with broader efforts to 85 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: address online harassment and safety issues here in Indiana,