1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,200 Speaker 1: Hello. 2 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 2: My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with 3 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 2: a very special in studio guest. 4 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 3: What would we like to talk about military operations, all 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 3: things badass United States Military. We bring in our guy, 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 3: Brian Alvi. Mister Alvi, how the hell are you? 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 4: I'm doing well. 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 5: I love the fact that he says special, because everybody 9 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 5: knows some as special. 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 3: For those who may be listening for the very first time, 11 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: Brian's got a very distinguished career in the United States Military, 12 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: So we like to bring you on to share your 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 3: perspective on operations. I think the last time we had 14 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: you on was Operation Midnight Hammer. Now I've talked to 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: my wife about Operation Midnight Hammer, but that was different. 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 6: This was the military operation. 17 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 3: So now we shift to Operation Epic Fury, and Nigel 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: and I rasking this yesterday. Are the expectations unfair for this? 19 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: Because we see how badass the United States military is. 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: We see the y and we see, you know, the 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: leadership and the troops and the numbers and all that 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. Then you look at Iran and while 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: it's not quite Little Sisters of the Poor, this is 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 3: the equivalent of Team USA's Dream Team playing Angola in basketball. 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: This operation has been about two weeks in the making here, 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 3: but I think people are starting to run out of patience. 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: They want this thing speeded up, they want it finished. 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 6: Is that fair? 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 30 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 5: Completely unfair. I mean that's the American way. We want 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 5: it now, we want it quick. That's why you know, 32 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 5: you go buy Starbucks and there's not a single person 33 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 5: in side at the counter, but there's like thirteen cars 34 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 5: in the drive through. It's not gonna happen overnight, folks. Sorry, 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 5: just it doesn't work that way. Assuming we stay with 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 5: air superiority, We're not no boots on the ground or 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 5: anything like that we should be looking at. 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not going to look good in three months. 39 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 5: We lopped the head off that mythical horrible snake the leadership. 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: But immediately, which is kind of unprecedented. 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, but but we've proven no matter when you do it, 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 5: when you lop the head of the snake off, you 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 5: better have a hold of that Dan go, I almost cussed, 44 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 5: I didn't do it. Uh, you better have a hold 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 5: of that snake because it's gonna grow another head back 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 5: and then and then it's gonna start biting. And whenever 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 5: you replace somebody we replaced. We replaced the Ayatola with 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 5: this son Ayahtola with even a hardline. And when you 49 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 5: do that, he immediately feels he has to prove that 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 5: he's worthy to the position. So it's going to be 51 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: he's going to dig in. This isn't gonna be over. 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 5: There isn't going to be any sizable or any quality 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 5: of negotiations between us and I ran at this point 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 5: and we lopped the head of the snake off. 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: We have to keep that snake down. 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 5: We have there, they're going to We took out seventy 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 5: five to ninety percent of their nuclear, their missiles, everything 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 5: we got. 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 4: We've got to keep pounting them. 60 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: We have the bombs, their lobbing have gone down ninety Well, well. 61 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: That's the side. 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 5: So we always talk about, you know, everything that I 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 5: Ran did that was like proxy stuff where they attacked us, 64 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 5: going back to the Beirut Marine Corbarracks bombing where they 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 5: where they took out over two hundred and fifty marines, 66 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 5: uh the SSS coal, which the USS coal, which was 67 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 5: what about I think twelve Americans died in that. I 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 5: don't remember the exact numbers. They are going to continue 69 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 5: to do that no matter what. They have proven that 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 5: there is no stopping with them, and once they have 71 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 5: the capability, they're going to use the capability. So we 72 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 5: definitely need to do this, but if we don't, if 73 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 5: we don't keep hammering them, they're going to continue to 74 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: do it. But with that said, everything they lobbed at 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 5: us when they attacked them was literally the equivalent of 76 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 5: a throwing rocks in the middle of a firefight. And 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 5: that's they are too. Just like all those people they 78 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 5: use the proxy, they're a proxy too. They're a proxy 79 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 5: for Russia and China and the stuff that they're throwing 80 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: at us is Russia and China's best stuff. Right, just 81 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 5: like Venezuela. It didn't land well, to say the least. 82 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 5: So it's put those folks on notice. 83 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: So the endgame here, right, if we're talking about some 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: sort of end game, how do we see this playing out? 85 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: Are Iran's people going to have this uprising? Because that 86 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: was a big conversation piece at the. 87 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 6: Beginning of this. 88 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: You know, shortly before the war began, Iran's people they 89 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: were trying to have this revolution and the evil Iranian 90 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: government slaughtered them and brought them back down. 91 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 6: Like they always do. 92 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: We were told the Iranian people were going to have 93 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: an uprising. 94 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 6: I haven't seen anything yet. 95 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: Well, Donald Trump wants that yet. I think he's kind 96 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: of told the people, hey, don't do this because the 97 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 2: Irgc are murderous bastards, and they have told the people 98 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: there's any protests, we'll kill you. 99 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: They're wrong about that. 100 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 5: They've killed their people to Additionally, that's what they do there, 101 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 5: you know, they kill their enemies, they kill their own people. 102 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 5: If they don't rise up, this is all or not. 103 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 5: We saw that in Iraq, we saw that in Afghanistan. 104 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 5: They just and you know, we made the mistake. 105 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: But there were expectations for this, Like with Afghanistan, you 106 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: were more or less just hoping they would. We saw 107 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: it trying to take place before the military got involved here. 108 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Millions of people million. 109 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 5: I think coin operations and I'm sorry, I mean I 110 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 5: was involved in coin operations and implementing all that, both 111 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 5: as a soldier and as a contractor counterinsurgency. Basically, it 112 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 5: is the equivalent of buying your friends. Well, we learned 113 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 5: in high school that doesn't work. 114 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 6: You can't. 115 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 5: You might lease them for a hot minute, but they 116 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 5: but you've also taught them to go to the highest bidder, 117 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 5: so as soon as somebody else comes in with a 118 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 5: higher bid, and sometimes that higher bid is I know 119 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 5: the US has given you money, but will kill your 120 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 5: whole family in her bid right there, So you can't. 121 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 5: We cannot buy loyalty over there. It's just not gonna happen. 122 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 5: I don't know what part of past precedents not predicting 123 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 5: a future performance they need to recognize. But if they're 124 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 5: banking on buying that allegiance, that loyalty. 125 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen. 126 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: Is there four stars on your shoulder to know that? 127 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: Is there anything to the idea screw regime? Obviously we don't, 128 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: you know, the idea of regime change, the idea of 129 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: boots on the ground, the idea of democracy installation. I 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: kind of called it yesterday regime containment. In other words, 131 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: what they did in Venezuela. They got the they got 132 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: Maduro out, They got a very unpopular woman that's leading 133 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: them now. But she came out the other day and 134 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: was singing the praises of Donald Trump. Regime containment as 135 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: opposed to regime. 136 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 5: Here's the biggest difference I have between Venezuela and in 137 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 5: Iran is simple. 138 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 4: It's a religious thing. 139 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 5: You are never going to instill a Jeffersonian style democracy 140 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 5: in an Islamic nation. 141 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: It's not their thing. They don't want it, so. 142 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 5: We can't force it out. We tried force it down 143 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: there for in Iraq. How'd that work out for us? 144 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 5: We tried doing the same thing in Afghanis and how'd 145 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 5: that work out for us? It's not going to happen. 146 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 5: We have to give them and at the end of 147 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 5: the day, what is the in state that everybody wants, 148 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: every human being? They just want peace. 149 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: So we have to figure out how to hand them 150 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 4: the ability to obtain peace. 151 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: But in their way. 152 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: We can't just shove down our way. 153 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: Through their throat. 154 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: It is stuck going to happen. Past precedence has proven that. 155 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: Speaking with Brian Alvi, we love to have Brian's perspective 156 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: on the United States military. Brian, of course, a veteran, 157 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: has done a lot of action to put it mildly 158 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: for the United States, and we thank you for your service. 159 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: Last question here before we let you go, and then 160 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: we'll have a drink and we'll talk about the podcast. 161 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm already dream. 162 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: And what do you say when people make the argument, 163 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: we've lost seven United States service members for Israel's war? 164 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 5: Okay, first off, I don't dismiss it, because I think 165 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 5: it's a valuable comment when we need to have everybody 166 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 5: discussing every angle of this. It's how we keep the 167 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: checks and balances, how we keep ourselves right. So I 168 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 5: don't agree with it, but I like the fact that 169 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: people are saying that we need to continue to have 170 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 5: these conversations. 171 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: The disagreement between two intelligent people is. 172 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 5: Where the right answers in life are found, and we 173 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 5: need to continue to do that in this free country 174 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 5: we call the United States. However, they point out those 175 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 5: lives that we lost, and nobody more than me cares 176 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 5: about those lives in this room right now. 177 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: I just I get it. 178 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 5: I've seen I've seen guys come home under that flag, 179 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 5: you know, over their coffin. Or it's tough, But I 180 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 5: would also point out, was it two hundred and sixty 181 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 5: one in Beirut at twelve in US? 182 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: So they have been killing us for years and it's 183 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: just tough. And I hate the narrative of. 184 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 5: Oh, you know, that's what they signed up for, you know, 185 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 5: they you know, I hate all that stuff. 186 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: Nobody signs up for that. 187 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 5: And nobody, nobody that serves in the military is any 188 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 5: different from anybody else in the community. 189 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: They they just know it's a possibility. 190 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just you know, I was in the military 191 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 5: for a little over twenty years, but I'm just I'm 192 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 5: just another guy in my community, and I just it 193 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 5: was a job I did, and you know, not special, 194 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 5: not less. It's just so to say, oh, you know, 195 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 5: that's what you said, that's not actually exactly accurate. So 196 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: let's let's just focus on the fact that the bigger 197 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 5: picture and and you know what people say, well, happened 198 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 5: over forty years ago. I'm like this in the history 199 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 5: of time, that's a very short span. Folks have been 200 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 5: trying and successfully killing our people for years, for fifty years, 201 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 5: and it's like, and now that we've done what we've done, 202 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 5: whether you like it or not, we need to keep 203 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 5: the pressure on. We absolutely have to keep the pressure on. 204 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 5: And if we put boots on the ground in there now, 205 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,359 Speaker 5: we're all fooling ourselves if we don't think they're special operations. 206 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 5: Americans on on on ground in there, but where we 207 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 5: put conventional forces in there. I need to see these coalitions, 208 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 5: you know, Kuwait and all these other countries that are 209 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 5: backing us right now need to see I need to 210 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 5: see them. You guys, this is your backyard. These are 211 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 5: your neighbors. We're over here. 212 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: Let's see you. Let's see you guys. 213 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: Actually get involved. 214 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 6: Brian, we got thirty seconds here. 215 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: Second. 216 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 6: Tell me where can I find the podcast? 217 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 5: Okay, those ash holes as at ash as h it's. 218 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 6: A cigar joke. 219 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 5: Those ash holes find us on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube. We're 220 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 5: all over the place, Me and Uh Hammer and Nigel Lum, 221 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 5: Jerry Lopez. We get on there. We wax eloquent about 222 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 5: nothing and just run our ash holes. 223 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 6: And what are we drinking here? 224 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: What do we got? We? 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