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Speaker 1: But you know what, who cares about any of it?

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Speaker 1: And I know, I absolutely know that if you're a

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Speaker 1: Bullseye has you covered. But when we come back, Matt

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Speaker 1: Weaver return guests to the program. We will get the

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Speaker 1: Oregon side of things and the Indiana side of things,

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Speaker 1: and just what we're looking for tonight in the Peach

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Speaker 1: Bowl National semi Final. It is an IU Final four

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Speaker 1: edition here of Query Company. That sounds weird to say

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Speaker 1: about football. I realized Query and Company. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: it on ninety three five and one of seven five

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Speaker 1: the fan.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Query and Company on ninety three five

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Speaker 3: and one oh seven five the fan.

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Speaker 1: So looking now we're up to yeah. Still you can

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Speaker 1: get two for thirty three hundred bucks in the National

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Speaker 1: Championship game. That's in the very top. Now, if you'd

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Speaker 1: like to sit, Nathaniel, where would you like to sit?

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Speaker 1: If we're going lower bowl here? Tell me the yard line.

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Speaker 1: I'm not not the fifty. Okay, we're gonna take the

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Speaker 1: fifty out of the equation. Give me a section you'd

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Speaker 1: like to sit at a twenty yard lines? Twenty yard line? Okay?

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Speaker 1: You want to be on the Indiana side or the

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Speaker 1: Oregon or the Oregon side. L R, I mean not

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Speaker 1: the organ. It says organ here on the thing and

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Speaker 1: on the way. You want me the Indiana side or

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Speaker 1: the Miami.

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Speaker 2: Side, Indiana side?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: That seems simple?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Twenty yard line on the Indiana side. Oh it's

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Speaker 1: not bad. Amazing deal. It says seventy five hundred and

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Speaker 1: nineteen dollars a ticket.

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Speaker 2: Let's go right, I have to pick up a few

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Speaker 2: more of these shifts.

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Speaker 1: I think joining us now in the Java House peelingporguest line.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps if you are driving down to Atlanta, you will

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna want it to party well into the

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Speaker 1: night and buckhead. After Indiana wins tonight, Matt Weaver joins

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Speaker 1: us here, of course, with Peaks dot Com covering Indiana football,

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Speaker 1: part of the two four seven Sports network. Matthew, let's

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Speaker 1: get to this right away. And that is second matchup.

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Speaker 1: We've heard a lot about it. Big challenge for Indiana

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Speaker 1: in in terms of trying to beat the same team twice.

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Speaker 1: Do you anticipate because Kurt Signetti had said, look, these

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Speaker 1: teams are both totally different from one another. Which one

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Speaker 1: will actually present looks that we had not seen in

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Speaker 1: round one? More Indiana or Oregon? Oregon?

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Speaker 4: I would I mean, I would guess Oregon.

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Speaker 5: I mean I think the team that, you know, maybe

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Speaker 5: the team that loses would would would do things more

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Speaker 5: differently than they did the first game. But I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think Indiana is obviously going to change some things up.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, a lot of what they did worked.

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Speaker 5: So if it isn't broke, you know, don't you know,

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Speaker 5: you don't don't fix it. So I would guess organ

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Speaker 5: probably changes more than Indiana does.

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Speaker 4: But I think both teams will.

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Speaker 5: We'll probably do some things that that they didn't do

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Speaker 5: the first time around.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's begin with this from just the health standpoint

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Speaker 1: coming off the Rose Bowl, because we knew obviously there

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Speaker 1: were uh you know, I mean Stephen Daily, we know

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Speaker 1: of that injury and then him his non availability for

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But was there anything that popped up over

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Speaker 1: the course of the week that perhaps went off radar

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Speaker 1: in terms of Indiana from a health standpoint.

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Speaker 5: No, I mean the guys that were out that are out,

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Speaker 5: I think it's like six or seven or the guys

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Speaker 5: he expected. I mean, Brendon Frankie was a guy that

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Speaker 5: I think at one point looked like he might kick

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Speaker 5: in the Rolls Bowl, and then he was downgraded. And

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Speaker 5: I think he's still either out or questionable. I can't remember,

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Speaker 5: because it looked like it looks like he's not going

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Speaker 5: to kick. I think it's pretty obvious he's not going

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Speaker 5: to kick tonight. So but other than that, I didn't

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Speaker 5: see anything that was like surprising. I mean, it's the

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Speaker 5: same guys that have that have that were already out

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Speaker 5: and everybody knew was out.

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Speaker 1: The look Oregon to me and I go a little

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Speaker 1: bit matt off of I know that obviously they high

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Speaker 1: level quarterback play. I always think of Oregon as an

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Speaker 1: in space team, a team that likes to get guys

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Speaker 1: out and take advantage of their speed. They typically are

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Speaker 1: very very fast. You know. The the weather situation the

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Speaker 1: first go round in Eugene was it was kind of

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Speaker 1: daylight today in Indiana. To be honest with you, a

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Speaker 1: little bit of missed, et cetera. What areas offensively, if

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Speaker 1: any that you have noticed or Kurt Signetti has talked about,

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Speaker 1: has Oregon maybe fine tuned or done differently than what

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Speaker 1: we saw the first go round?

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Speaker 5: You know, I mean, like you said, getting guys in space,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, the first time they just they

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Speaker 5: suffocated Dante more so much. You know, and I think,

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Speaker 5: you know, really to me, you know, the biggest thing

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Speaker 5: in this game for Indian defensively and you know they're

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Speaker 5: they're their running back room is pretty depleted, but they

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Speaker 5: still they still got good players. I mean, it's you

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Speaker 5: got to win up front and then not allow Dante

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Speaker 5: more to get in situations. I'm cure if maybe they're

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Speaker 5: going to roll the pocket with him more, because they really,

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Speaker 5: like I said, they got after him when he stayed

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Speaker 5: in the pocket up.

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Speaker 4: In Eugene, and I you know, you wonder if.

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Speaker 5: Maybe they try to get him out of the pockets,

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Speaker 5: they try to do some things to give him, you know,

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Speaker 5: clean like a clean window, a good clean picture to

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Speaker 5: throw the ball, to try to get some you know,

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Speaker 5: get some big plays down the field with those receivers.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, I think this game is going to

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Speaker 5: come down to, honestly, like a lot of football does,

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Speaker 5: who runs the ball the best on offense and who

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Speaker 5: can slow down the other team's running game, you know.

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Speaker 5: And so like I said, they got some good linemen,

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Speaker 5: they still got some good backs, But I like Indiana's

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Speaker 5: ability to run the ball and stop the run.

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Speaker 1: Matt Weavers, my guest peaks Dot com Java House, Peel

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Speaker 1: and Pork guest line, Matt, You've you've covered this team, right,

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Speaker 1: and you've been around it in this transformation. And I

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Speaker 1: was talking with someone the other day about this when

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti came out at Assembly Hall and did the

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Speaker 1: famous or infamous depending on which side of the coin

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Speaker 1: you're on. You know, Ohio, you know, produce sucks so

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Speaker 1: to Ohio State and Michigan. It was kind of a

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Speaker 1: gamble there. And of course now you can look back

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Speaker 1: on it and say, Okay, you know, he his Bravada

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Speaker 1: paid off. But I think he knew that he needed

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Speaker 1: to pump a confidence into the fan base or just

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Speaker 1: get people to kind of stand up a little bit,

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Speaker 1: because I think even he was surprised at how automatically

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Speaker 1: downtrodden the culture of Indiana football was because it had

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Speaker 1: been so immune to success. Do you agree with that

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Speaker 1: assessment just in terms of what his initial thought was

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Speaker 1: of the first thing that he needed to tackle, if

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Speaker 1: you will, when he took.

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Speaker 5: The job, Absolutely, Because I mean, obviously you've got to

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Speaker 5: change the culture within the program, but you've got to

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Speaker 5: change the culture outside the program.

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Speaker 4: And I was a.

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Speaker 5: Manager at IUVE under Cam Cameron and listen. The team

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Speaker 5: didn't quit when things went bad, but it was almost

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Speaker 5: like it was inevitable, like you know, something's going to

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Speaker 5: happen and there's nothing you can do about it, or

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Speaker 5: even if you try to do something about it, it's

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Speaker 5: still not gonna matter. I heard your interview with Rhet Lewis,

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Speaker 5: I think it was a day or two ago, and

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Speaker 5: I ran into Red, I know, Red, on the sideline

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Speaker 5: right at the end of the Rose Bowl, and I

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Speaker 5: went up to him and I mean, obviously we're both

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Speaker 5: you guys, and I said, Red, can you believe this?

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Speaker 5: And he was like, Matt, I won sixteen games in

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Speaker 5: my entire career at Indiana. If they win the next

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Speaker 5: two games, they're gonna win sixteen games in one season.

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Speaker 4: That's just where it is.

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Speaker 5: It's just incredible, Like it's hard to wrap your hand up,

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Speaker 5: especially for people you know, I was inside the program,

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Speaker 5: I was a manager, I worked in recruiting when I

586
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Speaker 5: was a student there years ago, and to see what's happened,

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Speaker 5: and then I've obviously covered the program for a long time,

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Speaker 5: it's just it's mind boggling, Like it's it's I mean,

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Speaker 5: when he said they're going to make a movie about

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Speaker 5: this on the stage after the rose Ball, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think he might have said it tongue

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Speaker 5: in cheek, but it may be actually happened. This may

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Speaker 5: be a movie one day, because I don't know that

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Speaker 5: you've ever seen anything in sports like.

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Speaker 1: This, but see Matt And here's what I keep going

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Speaker 1: back to, and I agree with all of that, and

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Speaker 1: it is interesting, and I appreciate you listening to the

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Speaker 1: Red interview. You know, it was interesting to me when

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Speaker 1: Rehet Lewis admitted that there were games that he looked

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Speaker 1: up and that he anticipated not winning, right, and then

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Speaker 1: he just thought, yeah, I mean it just eventually it

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Speaker 1: just became an expectation that the sky was going to fall,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But having said that, the

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti is a brilliant coach, I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: would dispute that. But how much of this when the

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Speaker 1: movie does come out, how much of the movie is

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Speaker 1: going to be about not necessarily even the unbelievable coaching

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Speaker 1: job of preparation, but also the institutional preparation that I

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Speaker 1: have mentioned, of anticipating the wind of change of college

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Speaker 1: football and getting out in front of Portal Nil building

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Speaker 1: instead of sitting back and letting it happen elsewhere. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota's and the other schools of the world have

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Speaker 1: to be sitting there thinking that could have been us,

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Speaker 1: but we were asleep at the wheel a little bit.

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Speaker 1: How much of it of this Indiana being proactive?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: And if there is over a movie, then Scott Dolson's

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Speaker 5: role should be a big part of it because and

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Speaker 5: when I you know, I mentioned Kurtz Signetti's name on

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Speaker 5: our board, and I'm not trying to pat myself on

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Speaker 5: the back, but I was looking when it looked like

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Speaker 5: it was going sideways with Tom Allen, I started doing

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Speaker 5: you know, if I was the eighty at Indiana.

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Speaker 4: How would I approach this?

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Speaker 5: And you got you had to find a guy who,

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Speaker 5: wherever he went, immediately impacted success. You know, with other

627
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 5: people's players, they were bad before and immediately they started winning.

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Speaker 5: And the two guys that jumped out to me were

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Speaker 5: Kurtz Sinnetti and Willie Fritz. I like Signetti better because

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Speaker 5: he'd worked under Sabin and Johnny Majors and so he

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Speaker 5: had that P four a high major experience, and some

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Speaker 5: people kind of pushed back, Well, he's sixty two, you

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Speaker 5: know what about ten years from now?

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Speaker 4: And I was like, you can't worry about ten years

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Speaker 4: from now. College athletics is changing.

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Speaker 5: You've got to win right now, like you worry about

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Speaker 5: ten years from now, ten years from now, And if

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00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 5: you win for the next ten years, then you're in

639
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 5: a great position. But if you don't, you're gonna get

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Speaker 5: left behind. You're gonna be outside when they shut that

641
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Speaker 5: when the music stops, you're not gonna have a chair.

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00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 5: And so that you know, and I listen that, I

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00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 5: think Kristinetti was going to do this absolutely there.

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I know, I don't think anybody could ever dreamed this,

646
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Speaker 5: but I thought they would be consistently an eight nine

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Speaker 5: win program under him, because that was his history.

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Speaker 4: That's what he did.

649
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 5: He just won at least that many games, if not more.

650
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 5: So you know, he was and I'm not trying to

651
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 5: say I'm some genius. And you know, I've talked to

652
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: Scott Dolson about it before and I told him the

653
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 5: reasons why, and he was like, well, that's what we

654
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 5: were thinking too. We needed a guy who who could

655
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 5: impact success, who had done it and done it immediately.

656
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 5: And he just jumped out at me. So but like

657
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 5: I said, for me to think they would be doing this,

658
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 5: I would if I knew that, I would have bought

659
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 5: a lot of ticket a long time ago.

660
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: And we'd been having this conversation from the beach.

661
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Speaker 1: I'm past the point, Matt, of questioning or finding reasons

662
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: why Indiana can't, you know, for forever when they were

663
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: going I remember a year ago, you know, when they

664
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Speaker 1: went up and they lost to Notre Dame and they

665
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: had lost to Ohio State, and there was conversation amongst

666
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, of hey, he's done

667
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: a great job turning them around. But next year it

668
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: gets real. They got to go to Oregon, they got

669
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: to go to Penn State, you know, et cetera. And

670
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm done now with those from myself of questioning it

671
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: because they continue to prove it wrong. But here's my

672
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: question for you. As we see now Indiana cashing in

673
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: on this cachet and getting big recruits now and getting

674
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: portal guys that are top ten players within the portal

675
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: and dominating the portal, does Kurt Signettes Chip on Shoulder

676
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: believe in this come together systems still work? When now

677
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: you are escalating and increasing the player profile you're getting

678
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: and getting players that don't have as much to prove

679
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: as an Aidan Fisher and Elijah Surrat, et cetera.

680
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 5: That's a really good question, and it will be interesting

681
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 5: to see how that goes. I just think the way

682
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 5: he you know, I don't know that his he he

683
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 5: is And I heard Ret say this, he's so good

684
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 5: at stalking out complacency, stalking out any kind of weakness

685
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 5: that his team could be, you know, like inside.

686
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: The locker room or inside the program.

687
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: And I mean, I you know, obviously when you recruit

688
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 5: portal guys, this is I mean, let's be honest, this

689
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 5: is this is speed dating on steroids.

690
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 4: Like you're you're you're.

691
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 5: Bringing these guys in for like a day and a

692
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 5: half and trying to get to know them. So you know,

693
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 5: you're not always going to hit on the guy who's

694
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 5: a great fit. And they've walked away from some guys

695
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 5: who were talented players that they didn't think were a

696
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 5: great fit, so you know, but still there could be

697
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 5: some times where you know, uh, you miss, and you're

698
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 5: the biggest fear in this portal age is if you

699
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 5: have a bad game, or you have a bad couple

700
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Speaker 5: of weeks.

701
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: Do guys do things go sideways?

702
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 5: I don't think that happens under Kurtsinnetti, but it's always

703
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: there because essentially you're playing with mercenaries. Everybody is. These

704
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 5: are one year guys or year to year. So I

705
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 5: think that will be interesting as they do get the

706
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 5: guys from the higher profile programs that are you know,

707
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 5: and that's what they've been doing this in this portal

708
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 5: class so far. You know, can they continue to have that,

709
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 5: you know, where the where the picked on.

710
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Speaker 4: We're the little guy. You don't believe in us, and

711
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 4: so we're gonna go show you. It'll be interesting.

712
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Speaker 5: I don't think it'll change because I think you such

713
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 5: a great coach, But that's a really good point and

714
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 5: something to keep an eye on as they go forward.

715
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Speaker 1: Is is it safe to say that Mark Cuban and

716
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Speaker 1: I know that you know the reports out there that

717
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: Cuban just made like another big donation. Is it safe

718
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Speaker 1: to say that Cuban is kind of the purse strings

719
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: behind this?

720
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's I think he's at least part of it.

721
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. I'm hesitant to say

722
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 4: just because I don't know enough that he's the number

723
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: one guy.

724
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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if Indiana set this up,

725
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 5: but I know at some point they got him around Signetti,

726
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 5: which is really smart because Kurt Signetti is a kind

727
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 5: of guy you know when you're around him. And I've

728
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 5: been in his office and done one on one interviews

729
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 5: and he's a great guy.

730
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Speaker 4: He's really easy to talk to.

731
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 5: People see him on TV, and that's I mean, in

732
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: behind closed doors, at least with me, that's not how

733
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 5: he is.

734
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Speaker 4: He's really laid back and fun to talk to.

735
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Speaker 5: And I'm guessing that he was able to sweet talk

736
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: Mark Cuban out of some of that money and both

737
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 5: being Pittsburgh guys, you.

738
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Speaker 1: Know what I mean, right, he went on Shark absolutely okay.

739
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 5: So you know, but I would think, you know, let's uh,

740
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously it's Mark Cuban's money and he can

741
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 5: do with with the what he wants, but you know,

742
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 5: him writing a check for ten millis is like, you know,

743
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: you and me go and find change in the counterwords. Yeah,

744
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 5: you know, but I mean, I again't den Villen doess

745
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: nothing to sniff. I don't know that if that's a

746
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: number I'm just throwing that out as a number, but

747
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 5: I think he's obviously he's made comments that he's definitely

748
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 5: been very generous with helping them out with nil.

749
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Speaker 1: Matt Weaver the guest Java House Peel and poor guest

750
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Speaker 1: line where you're hearing him. Last question, Matt would be

751
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: this tonight, when the game gets underway, tell me what

752
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: you are going to be looking for in your coverage

753
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: of the team this week and coming off of the

754
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. Whether it be something that was indicated to

755
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: you that Kurt Signetti is hoping to accomplish early, or

756
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, a wrinkle that may come into it. But

757
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: tell me what you are going to look for early

758
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: in this game that is going to tell you whether

759
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: or not this is going to go the way of

760
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: Indiana or Oregon.

761
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 5: Tonight, well, I mean it'll be you know, obviously last

762
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 5: week their first possession they got sacked twice and.

763
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Speaker 4: Then they ended up blown out. So you know, there's

764
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: probably gonna be some nerves, some some jitters. It's a

765
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: big stage.

766
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: But as they settle in, are they able to impose

767
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 5: theirselves physically like they've been able to do this entire season?

768
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 5: Almost basically every team they on both sides of the ball.

769
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: Can they do that?

770
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 5: Can they take care of the ball. They've done a

771
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 5: great job and Doze has been great with that, you know.

772
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 5: And then you know, like I said, defensively, can they

773
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 5: can they Can they get up there and stop the

774
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 5: run and make things life, make things hard for Dante more,

775
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 5: get after him and frustrate, you know, frustrate organ and

776
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 5: maybe get some turnovers.

777
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Speaker 4: So that's what I look for every week.

778
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 5: You know, they come out and play with that physical

779
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 5: nature that they usually do.

780
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 4: I expect them to do that. And then if we're

781
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: gonna do some different things, how do they adjust?

782
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: Peaks dot Com where you can read all of the

783
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: coverage Indiana and Oregon. Matt will be all over at

784
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: transfer Portal News as well as that continues to develop. Matt,

785
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time as always, have a good weekend.

786
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Matt Weaver joining us on the Java House

787
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line Chris did. I'm going to

788
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: join us coming up just about fifteen minutes from now,

789
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: And in that conversation, I'll tell you something I heard

790
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: that I think spells perfectly what it is that is

791
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: allowing Indiana to continue and put themselves in the position

792
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: they're in. But when we come back, it's over. It

793
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: is all over in Central Indiana, the thing that's been

794
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: hanging over. Yes it's a cloudy day to day, Yes

795
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: it's overcast, but guess what the skies did break and

796
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: it's all over. Tell you what I'm talking about next.

797
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Speaker 3: You're listening to Query and Company on ninety three five

798
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Miller, Luka, Doncic, Dirk Novitski, Adam Silver among those

800
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: sending congratulations to Rick Carlisle for his one thousandth career

801
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: win last night, and it came at the hands of

802
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 1: the Charlotte Hornets. There was part of me that thought, okay,

803
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: does that actually take you to nine hundred and ninety

804
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: nine and a half. But if you are the Pacers,

805
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: you're not going to look a gift horse in the

806
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: mouth because this is a team that desperately needed to

807
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: get that win and a tremendous accomplishment for Rick Carlile.

808
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: And that video that was put out by the Pacers

809
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: featured a ton of former players. Reggie Miller, you heard there,

810
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: Larry Bird, you heard in that video. There at the

811
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 1: very beginning, and I thought it was interesting that Luca

812
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: was in there because there was always, you know, the

813
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: rumors or the innuendo of a frosty relationship between those two,

814
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: and you do kind of forget. I shouldn't say it

815
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: that way, but you know, for Rick Carlile's career, you

816
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: forget how long he was in Dallas. I guess let's

817
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: put it that way, because I still think of Rick

818
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: Carlile because it began here and because we are here

819
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. I just think of him as Pacers first

820
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: and foremost. And it is coming at a time that, yes,

821
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: the franchise needed something to perk things up, because the

822
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: longest losing streak in the NBA for the Pacers, and

823
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: there have been some years for the Pacers, no question,

824
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: especially in the early years, but that now being ceased

825
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: last night with that win over Charlotte, and it comes

826
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: in a game where Pascal Siakam was again Pascal Siakam,

827
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: and I think that the real challenge for Indiana over

828
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: the course of this year. It's one thing to say

829
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: that you anticipate something, and it's another to actually then

830
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: sit back while it's being executed and Siakam. You know,

831
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: here's a guy that when he was in Toronto knew winning,

832
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: knows championships, and then was content with being traded to

833
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: Indiana because I think he saw that Toronto, you know,

834
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: the the championship level that they were, that they were transitioning,

835
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: so to speak. And whether or not he saw that

836
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: Indiana had it within them to get within a half

837
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: of the finals, I don't know, but simply put, for

838
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam, you would simply look at it and say

839
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: he would have every reason to become frustrated, wanting out,

840
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: discontented with all of it, with all of it except

841
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: for that it feels different. And I know that that

842
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, and I'm not trying to like carry water

843
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: for it, but I've been surprised by this. I go

844
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: to virtually every game I'm fortunate enough to do so,

845
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: and every time I go in, I look around, and

846
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: the crowds feel like and the mood feels like and

847
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: the energy in the building feels like it did for

848
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: the better part of last year. I mean, not the finals, obviously,

849
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: but what can be right? But look, I I was

850
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: around for the Brown Curtain era. I mean I was

851
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: around for come to Market Square Arena to see Larry

852
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: Bird and Julius Irving and Magic Johnson with a three

853
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: game package against the Pacers. I was around for my buddies,

854
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: and I like, let's buy tickets to the Pacer game

855
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: for nine dollars and moved down to the twentieth row.

856
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: You know, I was. I was at a game. I've

857
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: told the story before, but the Pacers played the Detroit Pistons.

858
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: And my buddies and I I was with Mike Hillery

859
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: and Scott McConnell, and we buy tickets to the Pistons game,

860
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: and we moved down and I mean we you know,

861
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: we were in high school kids, right, We maybe were

862
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: in college, but I think we're high school. I'm sure.

863
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: So we don't have any money, and we were able

864
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: to move down to the point where, if you want

865
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: to know the seats, we were able to move to

866
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: the whole game where I'm Bill Ambier. I mean the

867
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: whole game where I'm Bill amber We're yelling at him,

868
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: we're cussing at him, we're doing I mean, we're all

869
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: over Bill Ambier. He's a bad boy, right. So fourth

870
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: quarter of the game, Pacers are down twenty were killing

871
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: time by doing trivia, and so I asked the question,

872
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: where did Bill and Bier go to college? Now, let

873
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: me ask you, Nathaniel, don't call me Atticus Finch. Do

874
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: you happen to know where Bill Ambier went to college?

875
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: No clue. So my buddy McConnell goes, it went to

876
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. My buddy Mike Keillery goes, No, he went

877
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: to Michigan. No, he went to Notre Name. No whing

878
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: to Michigan. They're going back and forth. Of course I

879
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: know the answered Notre Dame. Right as they're yelling back

880
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: and forth to each other about this or arguing about this.

881
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: Finally the old couple who'd been sitting in front of

882
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: us for the entire game, turns around and says, he

883
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: went to Notre Dame. We know he's our son. So

884
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: if you want to know what it was like to

885
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: go to pacer games back in those days, there's been

886
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: lean years and you went to go see the opponent,

887
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: and you were able to move down and sit near

888
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: the parents of the opposing team for crying out loud.

889
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel that way. It kind of feels like

890
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: everybody knows there's a reason that they're having the year

891
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: they're having, and I think that because there's immediate light

892
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel. I'm not saying they're

893
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: going to get back to being a finals contending team

894
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: right away, but you look at it and you go, Okay,

895
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: Nie Smith miss time, and nim Hart's miss time, and

896
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: Halliburton's out and they've got to find out who their

897
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: center is going to be. All of those things. So

898
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: there's reason for optimism there, and there's an energy there

899
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: that still does feel positive, but that's not to say that.

900
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: And then you look at it and you go, oh man,

901
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 1: seven wins, three games back of the second to last

902
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: place in the East. I mean, so it was a

903
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: much needed jolt of something positive because the one thing

904
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: that I worry about, I mean, yeah, I worry that

905
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: Ben Shephard has lost his touch. I worry that Jeris

906
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: Walker and Ben Matherin have not been able to take

907
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: advantage of the situation before them. But I also worry

908
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: that Pascal Siakam is the one guy as the one

909
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: who from a timeline standpoint, is entering into towards the

910
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: end of career as opposed to prime. In other words,

911
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: he's at the end of this contract is when he's

912
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,479
Speaker 1: going to start exiting his prime. So do you want

913
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: him frustrated or are you hoping that you can get

914
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: what you can out of that and get him fully

915
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: invested and dialed in. And so far it's been the latter,

916
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: at least on the court, and last night he was

917
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: really good and you got to tip your cap to him,

918
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: because that's got to be frustrating. I'm going to tell

919
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: you what it was that happened after the Rose Bowl

920
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: with Indiana that I think speaks a lot about why

921
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: they're in the position there, and a guy that used

922
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: to play quarterback for him is on his way to Atlanta.

923
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: Christido joins us.

924
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 3: Next, you're listening to Query and Company on ninety three

925
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 3: to five and one oh seven five the fan, So let.

926
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: Me tell you one thing real quick before we bring

927
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: in Chris Dido that I think speaks volumes about Indiana football.

928
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: Indiana goes to the Rose Bowl for the first time

929
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: in fifty eight years. Indiana goes to the Rose Bowl

930
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: and soundly beats Alabama, I mean soundly beats Alabama and

931
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: Indiana fans literally half the state of Indiana is in

932
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: Pasadena California. The hotels are packed, the bars are packed,

933
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: the restaurants are packed, just like it is in Atlanta

934
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: right now. And you know, Pat Forty just sent a

935
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: thing saying Atlanta looks like Indianapolis right now. And yet

936
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: Indiana football already had it planned that as soon as

937
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: that game was over. Yeah, they did their celebration, They

938
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: did everything else. Do you think they stayed in Pasadena

939
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: soaked it in. Do you think they stayed and had

940
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: a victory lunch the next day in Pasadena somewhere and

941
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: then flew back as a team. They flew back that

942
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: night because Indiana had transfer portal recruits on campus on

943
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: the following day, on January two. Because Indiana's in the

944
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: position they're in, not because Indiana soaks in the moment

945
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: that they are living in, but rather is always looking

946
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: at what is around the corner. They're prepared. They always know.

947
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: If you watch the Alabama game, Alabama tried to run

948
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: trickery against Indiana, and Indiana knew what was happening before

949
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: Alabama did. Because Indiana now it is ingrained in them

950
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: starting at the top that it's not about even that moment,

951
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: it's about the next moment. And it's about and making

952
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: sure that the next moment you're better than the current one.

953
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: And that sounds like coach speak, and that sounds like

954
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: raw ross speak. But the proof is in the pudding.

955
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: They're the best team in college football. Chris Ditto joins

956
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 1: us now on the Java House Peel and poor guest line.

957
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: And my understanding is Ditto is en route to Atlanta?

958
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: Am I correct Kristen saying we're catching you in the

959
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: car on your way to the peach.

960
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 6: Bowled And we're a little over two hours away. We've

961
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 6: hit a little bit of traffic, it's raining, but it's

962
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 6: a pretty exciting drive overall. We're getting nervous and more

963
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 6: nervous a closer we get to Atlanta, but it's very exciting.

964
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so wait a minute, you said two hours from Atlanta.

965
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: Are you past Chattanooga?

966
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 6: No, we are not. We're about five minutes from five

967
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 6: to ten minutes from Chattanooga. Still, I'm twenty four almost

968
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 6: to seventy five, and I would say every other car

969
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 6: is the Indiana like and I'm not kidding.

970
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: So this is basically this is like like the second

971
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: It's like the second week in March when you're typically

972
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: doing this first spring break, right, yeah, exactly.

973
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 6: And and about an hour ago we stopped to get

974
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 6: gas and there was a circle k we go, you know,

975
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 6: we go out, go, go into the bathroom. The entire

976
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 6: gas station is filled with people with Indiana on. I mean,

977
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 6: it's just been so much fun to see all the

978
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 6: IU cars going south to Atlanta and from people that

979
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 6: I know you just said about Pat forty and what

980
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 6: he said about the amount.

981
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: Of people there.

982
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 6: And I also read that one another sports Illustraian writer

983
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 6: said for every ninety eight Indiana person that she sees,

984
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 6: she sees two organ people. So I've been thinking it

985
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 6: was going to be eighty percent Indiana in that stadium.

986
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 6: I'm starting to think it might be closer to ninety Yeah.

987
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, the proximity obviously helps right now. And also,

988
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: you know, here, here's what is Chris. So much of

989
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: this to me goes back to thinking about the way

990
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: things typically are. And like with Oregon, I look at

991
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: and I got nothing against Oregon football, you know, I mean, hell,

992
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: they were never a Big ten rival until now, right,

993
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: But having said that, it does feel like Oregon is

994
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: a program that has had fabulous teams. And then at

995
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 1: this point is when Oregon all of a sudden comes

996
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: they hit a wall, right, I mean, but you can't

997
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: you can't bank on that, right. So let's begin with this,

998
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: and I'll ask you the question that I've asked a

999
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: lot of people. You know, you played the game, you

1000
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: were a quarterback. You can watch a football game and

1001
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: probably see it in a different lens than say I do.

1002
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: When you think back to what Indiana did in Eugene?

1003
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: Was there anything in that game that you think, to yourself,

1004
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: that's one area that they need to make sure they

1005
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: don't fall into the trap of again, because they got

1006
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: away with it Eugene, but it's not gonna happen twice.

1007
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: Is there anything that jumps out that was maybe a

1008
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: soft spot for Indiana in Round one?

1009
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 6: I mean, I hate to say this because I've actually

1010
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 6: actually watched that game this week again, and I and

1011
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 6: I watched I was lucky enough to be out in Pasadena.

1012
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 6: I watched that game probably seven times embarrassingly since I've

1013
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 6: been back as well this week.

1014
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 7: It's just so much.

1015
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: Fun to watch that.

1016
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 6: But in watching that game, you know the old Obviously,

1017
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 6: the obvious potential answer is the interception that Fernando Mendoza

1018
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 6: through to help to help them tie the game. But

1019
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 6: I mean, we controlled that game from pretty much this

1020
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 6: halftime on when when and this makes me think about

1021
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 6: when we when I thought we were, oh my gosh,

1022
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 6: we're a really good team. And I remember when Frankie

1023
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 6: hit that fifty eight yard field goal to push up

1024
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 6: thirteen to.

1025
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: Ten at halftime.

1026
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 6: Right for us to be as the such a versatile

1027
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 6: team and have so much depth that we can run

1028
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 6: a second kicker out there to kick a fifty eight

1029
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 6: or feel able to take a thirty eight ten and

1030
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 6: looks so business like and just going to have to They

1031
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 6: expected to go there and win that game, and I'll say,

1032
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 6: speaking for former players, we didn't expect them to go

1033
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 6: there and win the game. We thought we'd go there

1034
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 6: and be competitive, but everyone was still picking Oregon at

1035
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 6: that time. So watching that game, it was so business

1036
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 6: like like. It's been since coach Signetty got to Bloomington

1037
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 6: that he has created such belief in the team and

1038
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 6: now for the fan base that I'm hoping that we

1039
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 6: go and do exactly what we did in Oregon and

1040
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 6: we go and we get a business like ten or

1041
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 6: fourteen point win and we move on to next week

1042
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 6: like like she is making everyone believe that we're supposed

1043
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 6: to do.

1044
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: When you think about the quarterback play, Chris Dido is

1045
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: my guest Jaba house peel and poor guest line of course,

1046
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: the former Indiana quarterback Chris. When you were a quarterback,

1047
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: if you had a throw that was errant, if you

1048
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: threw a pick six, if you had to pass batted down,

1049
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: whatever it may be psychologic, I didn't say it. I'm

1050
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: just saying hypothetically, right, hypothetically psychologically, though, is it tough

1051
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, you know, to go out and to

1052
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: use the ted Lasso line to be a goldfish and

1053
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: not think about the previous possession, not think about the

1054
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: previous throw. Is that tough? I would I.

1055
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 6: Would say no, not, not really, just because there's so

1056
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 6: many things that you're thinking about that you've got to

1057
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 6: and if you can't overcome that, then you really can't

1058
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 6: play the position. So if you are any good at

1059
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 6: playing quarterback, then you have to have a pretty elite

1060
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 6: ability to move on to the next play, no matter

1061
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 6: if it's a good one or a bad one, and

1062
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 6: have the ability to just act like you're starting off

1063
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 6: at square one on every single play.

1064
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: So but you know, I think to.

1065
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 6: Do what Fernando Mendoza has done when we've seen him

1066
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 6: throw an interception at critical moments like against Iowa, at

1067
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 6: Oregon and at Penn State, it's one thing to to

1068
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 6: forget about the play and move on to the next one.

1069
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 6: That's a whole other thing to take the very next

1070
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 6: drive and against Iowa, drive down and win the game.

1071
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 6: Against Oregon, drive down and win the game, and then

1072
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 6: against we all know what they did against Penn State.

1073
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 6: So his ability to forget about plays and move on

1074
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 6: to the next is is by far, you know, as

1075
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 6: good as I think I've ever seen anyone at the

1076
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 6: college level to be able to overcome mistakes and move

1077
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 6: on to the next play because of you know, the

1078
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 6: rather huge mistakes that he made on each of those

1079
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 6: three road games, but the very next drive he was

1080
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 6: able to go and lead the team to a next

1081
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 6: to a touchdown to win the game. And I think

1082
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 6: it's just Olgrim wide, team wide, because I think we've

1083
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 6: all heard when he makes those mistakes, who's he's got

1084
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 6: his back? Aiden Fisher, He's coming to him immediately saying

1085
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 6: we've got your back, We'll get a stop, and then

1086
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 6: you'll go down and score. So it's just an incredible

1087
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 6: belief that's permeated throughout the entire team and program that obviously,

1088
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 6: you know, starts with coach Signetti to Mike Shanahan, to

1089
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 6: Bryant Haynes, all of these guys that we know, they're

1090
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 6: so confident and if they do make a mistake, which

1091
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 6: we know are very few that this team has made

1092
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 6: throughout the year, they come back and they're better.

1093
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: They're better the next time. Does Indiana play with a

1094
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: bravada and a confidence because they see it in their

1095
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: coach that believes in them? Or does Indiana have a

1096
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: coach that carries with him of bravada because he knows

1097
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: his players will deliver on what he wants.

1098
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I think I think it starts with the

1099
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 6: coach and the coach has such belief in them that

1100
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 6: the players have they he just gives there's no gray

1101
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 6: area with him. With Coach Signetti, he leaves no doubt

1102
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 6: for them.

1103
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: And I believe it.

1104
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 6: You know, it started, It starts in January of you know,

1105
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 6: of twenty twenty five, and then it just builds throughout

1106
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 6: the entire spring and then through the summer and then

1107
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 6: August preseason camp that they've got such a system down

1108
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 6: the coaching staff does that their their ability to then

1109
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 6: pass that on to the team. So if my coach

1110
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 6: was able to give us the confidence and they game

1111
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 6: plan and the ability to believe, they've got no choice.

1112
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 6: It's just it's going to happen because coach Signetti accepts

1113
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 6: nothing less that comes to believing that they will win

1114
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 6: and can I mean this depends they game alone. There's

1115
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 6: so many examples this year, but that game alone was

1116
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 6: incredible with their backs against the wall and Happy Valley

1117
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 6: and the ability to drive down and score to win

1118
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:03,959
Speaker 6: that game.

1119
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: Have you seen more billboards Christio in your drive to

1120
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: the Peach Bowl? Have you seen more billboards in the

1121
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: last two hours for BUCkies or rock City?

1122
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 6: Yeah? You know, Unfortunately there's only two BUCkies between here,

1123
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 6: between Indianapolis and Atlanta, so i'd stay there's probably more

1124
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 6: rock City billboard.

1125
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: But it's weird.

1126
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 6: You know, we've all seen the Bucky billboards and you

1127
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 6: know it's like two hundred and thirty seven miles to

1128
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 6: the next buck They let you know that, right, You're like, yeah,

1129
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 6: you're like, Okay, well, I guess we'll wait.

1130
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: Well, now, truck to the next sulb. Listen, chrazy if

1131
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: you went in on this, Okay, are you familiar? You're

1132
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: probably not. The Quarry Gas in Gold now, I'm not

1133
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: going to I'm not. I can't compete with BUCkies. But

1134
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: in that stretch between Bloomington and Evansville where there's like

1135
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: one gas station for seven, the Quarry Gas and Gould,

1136
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: Now here's what I'm gonna have. Okay, combos, fountain drinks,

1137
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: dip and clean bathrooms and gas. That's it. That's all

1138
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: you need, right, That's that is the road trips. Maybe

1139
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: some beef jerkey, maybe beef jerkey.

1140
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 6: Combos is yeah, you just gotta say combos. And I'm

1141
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 6: in pre such cleary gas and golf.

1142
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: I like that.

1143
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 6: You might need some PR behind that.

1144
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: Just me. I know, listen, anything I do needs PR

1145
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: I know that much. What's what's the game plan once

1146
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: you're down there? I mean, obviously you're gonna get down

1147
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: there early, and we know that there are tons of

1148
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: Indiana fans that are going to be there, So what

1149
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: is exactly the game plan? In the pregame press?

1150
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 6: If you will yeah, So we're gonna, you know, hopefully

1151
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 6: be at the hotel in the next two hours, drop

1152
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 6: off our stuff, and then just go because we're rotel's

1153
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 6: about fifteen to twenty minute walk to the stadium. And

1154
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 6: what's been one of the coolest things about this run

1155
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 6: in the last two years and especially the last month

1156
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 6: is started off with probably you know, a former player group.

1157
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 6: Text started off with about ten guys. That's grown to

1158
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 6: probably fifty plus guys, and I would say there were

1159
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 6: thirty to fifty guys in Pasadena. I'm hearing there's going

1160
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 6: to be close to one hundred four and former players

1161
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 6: that will be in Atlanta. And you know Dan Thompson.

1162
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I I don't know, but I know.

1163
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, So he's got a huge tailgate prepared that's a

1164
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 6: ten minute walk to the stadium. And I mean there's

1165
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 6: gonna like Brett Law, Matt Bomba, whose sons on the team,

1166
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 6: just a ton of guys from the eighties and nineties

1167
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 6: and early two thousands that are gonna be there that

1168
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 6: you know, we've all we're now all on this text

1169
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 6: string that said Rose Bowl twenty twenty five, now it

1170
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 6: says Peach Bowl twenty twenty six, and it's been incredible

1171
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 6: to reconnect with guys we haven't heard from in years

1172
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 6: and then be able to see them here in a

1173
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 6: couple of hours and spend time with them last week

1174
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 6: in Pasadena, and to be able to just share this

1175
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 6: experience with all of them because you know what, obviously

1176
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 6: we never had the success that they're having now. But

1177
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 6: we all love Indiana football. We all, you know, bleed

1178
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 6: Indiana football. And it's just we are taking so much

1179
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 6: pride in this run and it's been so exciting to

1180
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 6: watch this and tonight, I think it's going to be

1181
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 6: a much tougher and different challenge than Alabama was. I

1182
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 6: don't think anybody saw what we did to Alabama coming.

1183
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 6: But and you know, watching Dan Lanning and watching Kurt

1184
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 6: Signetti interacting their press conferences has been pretty incredible to

1185
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 6: watch as well, because Dan Lady is a clever, smart,

1186
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 6: motivated head coach, so they were going to have their

1187
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 6: hands full, but.

1188
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: We are.

1189
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 6: I'm very excited to get down see a bunch of guys.

1190
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 6: I mean, John Pacey, Trent Green, all these dudes are

1191
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 6: going to be down there, so it's going to be.

1192
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 8: So fun.

1193
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 6: And I and It's also fun to hear the guys

1194
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 6: on the team in their interviews talk about how excited

1195
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 6: they are, motive they are. But I've seen you know,

1196
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 6: they said the Big Ten Champions game felt.

1197
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 7: Like a home game.

1198
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 6: The Rose Bull felt like a home game. The more

1199
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 6: I think about it, the more I'm thinking this game

1200
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 6: is going to be ninety percent Indiana fans. And I mean,

1201
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 6: what more could you ask for if you're the current

1202
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 6: team or a former player to see you know, I

1203
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 6: think you said it. People have said it. It's just

1204
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 6: a sleeping giant of a fan base that has been

1205
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 6: starved for football, that's awake and every single second.

1206
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: Their entire life. Yeah not for twenty years, right, yeah, Okay,

1207
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: for fifty years ago, Chris. Let me let me finish

1208
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: with this. And I know I've asked you this before,

1209
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: and I'll probably ask you again when Indiana's playing against

1210
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: Miami in a week, when you're on your way down

1211
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: to Miami Gardens and you know, I mean, you're you're

1212
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: dropping sixteen grand on tickets because Miami's caught all of them, right, right,

1213
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: But give me the and it might take you a

1214
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: second to think about it, Okay, but I want you

1215
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: to give me the three to four people that all

1216
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: of this that when you think about it, whether they're

1217
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: still here, they're watching from above, whatever it might be,

1218
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,479
Speaker 1: give me the three or four people personally or within

1219
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: the program that you truly are the happiest for and

1220
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: you think to yourself, they believed in this when no

1221
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: one else did.

1222
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 6: Well. I mean number one would be Bill Mallory. I

1223
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 6: think he and his wife Ellie, and I think he

1224
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 6: would have so much pride and experiencing this and watching

1225
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 6: this team and watching how because Chris Signetty's a bit

1226
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 6: of a throwback, you know, he's an old school guy.

1227
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 6: He's cut from the same cloth I feel like for

1228
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 6: as coach Mallory was. But he's the number one person

1229
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 6: that comes to mind, along with his wife because she

1230
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 6: was such a huge missus. Ellie Mallory was such a

1231
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 6: huge support group for him. And she's still living and

1232
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 6: I know she's probably following this.

1233
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: And you know, in his boys.

1234
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 6: You know, when we played against Indiana State the first

1235
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 6: or second third game of the year, Kurt Mallory was there,

1236
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 6: Mike Mallory was there, Doug all of his kids were there. Leimmington,

1237
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 6: Indiana University means so much to the Mallory family. So

1238
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 6: all of those folks I know are loving this run.

1239
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 6: Don Fisher has to be number two for me because

1240
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 6: of the fifty years that he's put in Indiana football.

1241
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 6: You know, it's incredible what he's gone through. And I

1242
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 6: loved them on your show every Monday. I love listening

1243
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 6: to his perspective and how much he has enjoyed this

1244
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 6: run for Indiana football. He's right up there. And honestly,

1245
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 6: the group of guys that I'm about to see here

1246
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 6: in a couple of hours and well, because I know,

1247
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 6: I mean, we've all shed tears, you know, over the

1248
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 6: last month at the Big Ten championship game at.

1249
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: The Rose Bowl.

1250
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 6: I mean we're literally all getting together. We have some beers,

1251
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 6: we try, we say we can't believe this is happening,

1252
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 6: and then we say we and then we talked the

1253
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 6: next money. You're like, oh my gosh, we get to

1254
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 6: do this again. Ill luck here we that this continues.

1255
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 6: And none of us wanted to end. You know, none

1256
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 6: of us wanted to end tonight. We all want to

1257
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 6: be able to do exactly what you said, spend way

1258
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 6: way too much money on a potential National Championship game

1259
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 6: ticket to next week. Was really rooting for Mississippi last night,

1260
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 6: but then I thought about it. You know, Mississippi fans

1261
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 6: are there, they will be as crazed as Indiana fans are.

1262
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 6: And I don't think that ticket prices would have droped

1263
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 6: at all if Mississippi was in it.

1264
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 9: So it's I I really appreciate that question because it

1265
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 9: just I know what me and I've only said kind

1266
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 9: of three groups of people, but I know that they're

1267
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 9: you know Scott Dolson too, that guy I know who

1268
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 9: everybody wants a statue of pursuit, and he will get

1269
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 9: a statue eventually outside of Memorial Stadium.

1270
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 6: But my word, Scott Dolson, and the the foresight and

1271
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 6: leadership that he had to pick and the guts to

1272
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 6: pick a coach from James Madison to come and be

1273
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 6: the head coach at Indiana when no one else was

1274
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 6: willing to take a coach a chance on him in

1275
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 6: his forty year career at a at a powerful conference,

1276
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 6: and Scott Dolson interviewed him, identified him, told Pamela wentten,

1277
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 6: this is our guy, and my goodness, and Scott Dolson

1278
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 6: he could not be or humble person coming out of Bloomington,

1279
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 6: Indiana that you'll ever meet. So he deserves all of

1280
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 6: the accolades and success that's coming for the program right now.

1281
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 6: And it's it's just a blast by the way, fortunate

1282
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 6: to be almost served.

1283
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: If and when Indiana wins it all or wins tonight,

1284
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm putting right now clubhouse leader for the videos that

1285
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: look like Michael Irvan on the sideline. Amongst former players,

1286
01:07:55,040 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm putting his Brett Law clubhouse leader, Brett Law BPA.

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Speaker 6: That's what they say, right, belt the ass and whatever.

1288
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 6: Michael Irvin, that might be the worst thing. I mean,

1289
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 6: nice guy, but that is there anything more annoying than

1290
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 6: when they show him on the sideline Listen those games?

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01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, that's all that's part of the

1292
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: branding of the U. But that's what's going to make

1293
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: it fun when Indiana goes down there, if they take

1294
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 1: care of business tonight, Chris travels safe, enjoy the drive

1295
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: through Chattanooga and Rock City, and then we'll talk to

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01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: you next week before the game against Miami.

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Speaker 6: I'd love to man, thank you for having me, really

1298
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 6: appreciate it, and go who's yours?

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01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 7: All?

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01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: Right? Chris did on joining us on the Java House

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01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: Peel and Port guest line. Yeah, the Irvin stuff, I'm

1302
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: going to try. So years ago, when I was working

1303
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: at a different radio station during the NFL combine, Michael

1304
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: Irvin was doing a radio show out of Dallas and

1305
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: had to do his radio show out of our building.

1306
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: So I come walking into work one day and I

1307
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: turned the corner and there's Michael Irvin. I'm like, the

1308
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: world and so, and he was super nice, I mean,

1309
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: really was a cool guy. And he said, hey, listen,

1310
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: like tomorrow, I've got to come back and do my

1311
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: show again. Is there somebody here that I can get

1312
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: a hold of in case I can't get in the building.

1313
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: And I said, well, yeah, I mean, I'll give you

1314
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: my number or whatever, and so I did, and so

1315
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: he texted me the next day like, hey, I'm coming

1316
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: in the building whatever, and so naturally, and I know

1317
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: that I've shared this before, but I said, well, okay,

1318
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 1: So I'm so Nathaniel if Michael Irvin sends you a text,

1319
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: because he's got to get in the building. As a

1320
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: responsible radio you know, person working in sports talk radio,

1321
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin texts you, what's the first thing you do

1322
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: once you get the once you're done with the text correspondence, naturally,

1323
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin texts you. Naturally, the first thing you're going

1324
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: to do is do what with your phone with the

1325
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: phone number Michael Irvin just.

1326
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,839
Speaker 2: Sent you, Save it and show all your buddies.

1327
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: Correct, you got to save it at the very least,

1328
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: and just be like, okay, well you never know, like

1329
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: within you know, so I saved the number. Right. Well,

1330
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: I've told this before, but I had someone when I

1331
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,520
Speaker 1: used to go out of town that would come and

1332
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: and you know, house sit and whatever else. And so

1333
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: one time when I was leaving town, I send a

1334
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: I called the person. I scrolled through my phone in

1335
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: my contacts, hit the number. Call Mickey is the person's name,

1336
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: and I get the automated you know the number, you

1337
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: have reached four six not you know whatever, and it

1338
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,919
Speaker 1: beeps this back when people used to still live voicemails,

1339
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,719
Speaker 1: leave voicemails. So I leave the voicemail. Hey, it's Jake. Listen,

1340
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: there's you know, money on the table, and the key

1341
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: is underneath the matt you know whatever else, DA, thanks

1342
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: for doing this whatever. I hang up now. Nathaniel, you

1343
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: tell me if you've ever done this, Have you ever

1344
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: in scrolling through your phone erroneously called someone because it

1345
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: scrolled one person past or one person shy of where

1346
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: it was the person that you're trying to call right

1347
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: all the time. So I look as I hang up

1348
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: the phone, I look and I go, oh, gosh, I

1349
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: just called Michael Irvin. Right. So like three minutes later,

1350
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: my phone rings and I look down and it says

1351
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin calling, and I'm like, well, now I'm in

1352
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: a real pickle, right, So I answer it hello, and

1353
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin says, and I quote, hey, my man, I

1354
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: don't know if we've ever met, but you got to

1355
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: be the only person that told Michael Irvan where the

1356
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: money is in your house and told me how to

1357
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 1: get in. And he was super cool laughing about it. Right,

1358
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: This was like ten years ago, but I still have

1359
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: and I have no idea if it's still the same number,

1360
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: but I have his number in my phone, and I thought,

1361
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: I've got to get him on if Indiana's playing Miami.

1362
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 1: My goal next week is to get Michael Ivan on

1363
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: the show, not just to talk about the matchup, but

1364
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: also to see if he remembers the time that I

1365
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: gave him the entire list on how to get into

1366
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: my house and where the money was, and he was cool,

1367
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: and he was cool when he was doing the radio show.

1368
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: You know, I know that he's obviously had some of

1369
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: his things, but he was very cool. But he has

1370
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: been a dynamic personality on the sidelines for the you

1371
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: if you will, throughout the course of this run. And

1372
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne also as well. I mean Reggie Wayne, you

1373
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: would imagine. I mean, there are so many Miami football players.

1374
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: And that's really the thing about Indiana that makes this

1375
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 1: run so unique is and I think so telling. It's

1376
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: not like Indiana Basketball. It's not like pretty Basketball mentioned

1377
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: this before. I mean, you have a shorter list of

1378
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: people to get on that immediately bring people back to

1379
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: that represents what it is, right, represents what it is.

1380
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: But either way, if you're on your way to Atlanta,

1381
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: my understanding is it's going to be home away from home. Baby.

1382
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: They're going to take the Soldiers and Sailors monument and

1383
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: go put it right now down there on one of

1384
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: their nineteen Peachtree Streets because it just feels like home.

1385
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: As Indiana invades and heads down that way. But that's

1386
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: not the only football taking place this weekend. Yes, in fact,

1387
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: there are games that do not include the Indianapolis Colts.

1388
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: And what does it tell you that we're halfway through

1389
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: before that's the first time that I mentioned the professional

1390
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: franchise in town. But we'll take a look at where

1391
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 1: right now things fall in terms of the NFL weekend

1392
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: slate of games. And what was said yesterday about the

1393
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: Colts that made me think, hmm, closer or further away.

1394
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: We'll get into that next.

1395
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 3: This is Querry in Company on Nutty three five and

1396
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 3: one oh seven five.

1397
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: The fan apparently that midnight train to Georgia is nothing

1398
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: but people chanting, who who hoosiers? My buddy Byron is

1399
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: down there, Mike Byron. I have no idea if he

1400
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: remembered his wall at this time, but I talked to

1401
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: him earlier and he's like, dude, and I mean, Byron

1402
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: is as big an IU football fan as you'll meet,

1403
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, it is unbelievable here. He's like, literally,

1404
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: it's like being in Bloomington Peachtree West and Peachtree East

1405
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: Streets at the intersection with Peachtree Northwest. Ie you guys

1406
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 1: all over the place selling shirts. Hey, Jake, let ditto know.

1407
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,839
Speaker 1: Every license plate is an Indiana plate and the backup

1408
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: begins in Kennesaw, Atlanta. Traffic is all Indiana. We are

1409
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 1: en route, go Hoosiers. Also want to say hello to

1410
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: Nick who. I feel bad for Nick because he's got

1411
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 1: set up in his new office a huge video board

1412
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: that shows that he is looking smack right at me. Nick,

1413
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, buddy, He's looking right at me

1414
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: watching on the YouTube stream while he is working, which

1415
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: is greatly appreciated. Also want to thank, as I mentioned

1416
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: off the top of the show, the great folks and

1417
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: they are awesome folks at Zinc and having us out

1418
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: yesterday with Mick old Trust part of our Mini Hoops challenge.

1419
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: Yesterday's stop was the Axels tap room at the Garage

1420
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 1: and Bottleworks, and the Garages is awesome and you know

1421
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: they sitting there and having the mini hoops set up

1422
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 1: and having to Mike Ultra and then seeing my buddy

1423
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: Sam Hoofer who played for the Hornets at the Pike

1424
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: WYAMCA when he was eight years old and I was

1425
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: a coach, and now seeing him working at the garage.

1426
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: It was great to catch up with him yesterday and

1427
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: really appreciate them having us out yesterday. A ton of fun,

1428
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And then of course that was

1429
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the opening of the old Miss

1430
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 1: Miami game. Went home, watched the rest of that game,

1431
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: and between that and the Pacers back and forth and

1432
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: Rick Cardile's one thousandth win in Miami punching their ticket

1433
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 1: into the National Championship Game, and as a result, speaking

1434
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 1: of tickets, driving those prices up up up for the

1435
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 1: National Title Game because you forget, you know, for Miami.

1436
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a great fan base obviously, and I

1437
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean Holder, Steven Holder, who went to

1438
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: Miami would be able to tell us differently. I think

1439
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: that the thought process is that like the entire city

1440
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: of Miami would be you know, Hurricane grads and fans,

1441
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: but I think it may actually be kind of more so.

1442
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Miami is a super elite, super elite private institution,

1443
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: so you have obviously alumni I would assume that are

1444
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: down there. But I think most people that grow up

1445
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: in the Miami area, if you're a native of that area,

1446
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 1: whether it be West Palm or further is you go further,

1447
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: you know, Lauderdale down into Miami, you know, all the

1448
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: way down throughout Miami Dade area. I would think there's

1449
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: probably a lot of Florida Florida State fans, great rivalries

1450
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 1: amongst those. But nonetheless, the tickets last night, as I

1451
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of minutes to go in the game,

1452
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: twenty nine hundred bucks. It was the get in price

1453
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: on the secondary mark for the national title game. That's

1454
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: now up to I think the least expensive I see

1455
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: now is like thirty five hundred and that's for the

1456
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: upper upper upper deck. Now, if you want to sit

1457
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: down between the end zones in the lower level, you're

1458
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: looking at starting price around six grand upwards of fifteen grand,

1459
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: depending on where you want to sit. Bullseye V Group

1460
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 1: has you covered for all of it. Of course, don't

1461
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: worry about any of that. If you go with Bullseyevan Group,

1462
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 1: you can simply go J and V'll be down there

1463
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 1: if Indiana is to advance to the championship game, and

1464
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: they will have covered for you the best in terms

1465
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: of hotel, airfare, game tickets all covered all one price.

1466
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 1: Bullseye Event Group is the place to go for that

1467
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: NFL Weekend. Now the playoffs are upon us the first game,

1468
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: and you know that your team is not any good

1469
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: when the first game out on the playoff schedule, you're

1470
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: in it. That means they're saying, like, let's get this

1471
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: one out of the way and then we'll let the

1472
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: real games begin. And I think actually the Colts the

1473
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: last time they were in the playoffs might have began

1474
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: in that first game. Rams at Panthers getting everything set.

1475
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: I mean, Carolina, you know, get give them credit. They

1476
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: won their division, right, I mean, like I said, tallest

1477
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: member of the Lollipop Guild perhaps, But they're in. But

1478
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: the Rams are intriguing because to me, the Rams feel

1479
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: like when they are on they might be the most dangerous.

1480
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: I just I think Matt Stafford and you look at

1481
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: you know the way that he can his CJ. Stroud

1482
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: is the guy that calls himself the ball placement specialist.

1483
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 1: But Matt Stafford can get it there and get it

1484
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: there and hurry. But that's game number one, followed up

1485
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: by Packers Bears. Is this the ninth time, Atticust that

1486
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: the Packers and Bears have played one another this year?

1487
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: Does it just feel that way doesn't it feel that

1488
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: way every time you turn around, that's who they're playing.

1489
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 2: What's all happened in the last month too?

1490
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: For real? Right, and there was that fabulous finish. Now,

1491
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: I hate to say this for you Bears fans, Mark

1492
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: Dyton among them. I hate saying it. I've got nothing

1493
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: against the Chicago Bears, nothing against him, and I think

1494
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is really fun to watch, and I think,

1495
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: even though I snickered at it in the beginning of

1496
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: the year, they do have a really good tight end,

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 1: just like the Colts do. But the Bears to me

1498
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: feel like the team because it happens every year, the

1499
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: team that's had an unbelievable season and then they get

1500
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: in the postseason and immediately will I'm gonna predict that's

1501
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: the Bears that bears nothing against them, and I'd love

1502
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: to see him win like change. But it feels to

1503
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: me like this is the end of the road for

1504
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: the Bears. And feel free to if you're listening right

1505
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: now and the Bears come out and they the Cardiac

1506
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: Bears do it again and they beat Green Bay, feel

1507
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: free to text or treat me and be like, yeah,

1508
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: you're wrong, Buffalo and Jacksonville coming up on Sunday, right.

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01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 2: That's right, one o'clock.

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01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: Can Jacksonville maintain this? I mean, Buffalo is the team

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01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: that we all year long have just automatically assumed is

1512
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: the AFC favorite, But yet seemingly every time I turn

1513
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: on and watch Buffalo, they're either down or losing. But

1514
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: if you were to tell me, I would look at

1515
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: it and say, it feels like they went nine and

1516
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: eight or ten and seven. They didn't. I realize that.

1517
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: But Jacksonville is just playing right now at such a

1518
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: precise level. But you wonder how long doesn't it feel

1519
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: like Trevor Lawrence eventually throws a costly pick, which Peyton

1520
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: Manning I remember, Tim Bragg and I used to have

1521
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: a running joke when Tim Bragg wants asked, Peyton Manning,

1522
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: seems like you've thrown a lot of costly picks in

1523
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: the last couple of games, Ti Manning goes, I mean

1524
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: costly picks. I mean you have to elaborate on, like

1525
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: what's a costly pick? I mean it is like, like,

1526
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: is there is there a non costly pick, like like

1527
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: a lesser expensive pick. And literally the rest of Tim

1528
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: Bragg's time at Channel six, Peyt Manning would walk in

1529
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: and look at Tim Bragg and just go costly picks.

1530
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: So it feels like Trevor Lawrence, though, might have a

1531
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: costly pick still in him. And then San Francisco Philly.

1532
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 1: I think Philly is the NFC team no one's talking

1533
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 1: about that could win the NFC. I'll just go ahead

1534
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: and say Philly wins the NFC. But the thing that

1535
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: came out with Chris Ballard in regards to all of

1536
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: these teams, and I know I harped on it, and

1537
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 1: I know I've focused too much on it, But the

1538
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: thing that I kept going back to that disappointed me

1539
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: or was the illumination and the epiphany of where things stand,

1540
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: was simply the fact that when Chris Ballard was asked

1541
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: what have been the highlights or what are the reasons

1542
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: why he should be retained, he couldn't name anything of

1543
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: recent ilk couldn't. And you have teams like Carolina, and

1544
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,919
Speaker 1: I get it, Carolina won their division in a weak division,

1545
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: But you look at the teams than I just mentioned

1546
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 1: and where they were, say five years ago, it's a

1547
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 1: lifetime ago, a lifetime ago. And yet when you talk

1548
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: about the Colts and you talk about high points, you

1549
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: have to really stretch to find any in the last

1550
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: five years. And you know, I do believe there probably

1551
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: is a lot more going on that And one of

1552
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: the things that I think might play into what's happened

1553
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: in the last week. I think there's something going on

1554
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: where there might be a little bit of chess and

1555
01:23:53,800 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: we assume it's checkers, and I hope I'm wrecked in it,

1556
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: and that there is a little bit more cerebral nature

1557
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: of the layout of West fifty sixth Street, which I

1558
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: will explain what I'm talking about. On the other side,

1559
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 1: what happened to Van Halen, I know, it just disappeared.

1560
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: What the heck? You would think Eddie Garrison would have

1561
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: sabotaged the board for that, except that he's named for

1562
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: Eddie van Halen.

1563
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: Right, Maybe he sabotaged it the other way because he

1564
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 2: doesn't want me to steal his job.

1565
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: They didn't van the board doesn't the board by the way,

1566
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: our term for the computer the run six. They don't

1567
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: want they didn't want anybody to jump. Apparently, right there

1568
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: we go, we're back on it now. The fabulous video.

1569
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: So as I was thinking about Chris Ballard's press conference

1570
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: and the things that were said and people's dismay at it.

1571
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen will join us coming up just about fifteen minutes.

1572
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: We'll kind of get into this as well. But I

1573
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: put myself in the position of Carli Ersa Gordon, and

1574
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, first off, it'd be awesome,

1575
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 1: be awesome, it would be awesome. To now it would not.

1576
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the circumstances by which had happened. I mean,

1577
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm not making light of, you know, the loss of

1578
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: a father and a parent and all of that, and

1579
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: money doesn't buy happiness, you know, all of those things.

1580
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: But you are the owner of an NFL franchise, and

1581
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: you are the CEO of an NFL franchise, and we

1582
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: think that that would be all gum drops and lollipops.

1583
01:25:54,800 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: But I'm sure it has challenges. Obviously. One of those

1584
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: challenges would be navigating through and sifting through the expectations

1585
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 1: versus the realities and other such things of being the

1586
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: decision maker for a franchise that means so much to

1587
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: the fans, the city, and et cetera. And Carlie Ersa Gordon,

1588
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 1: I would assume knows the perception of the franchise ownership history,

1589
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: and it goes back to obviously her grandfather, who she

1590
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: would have known for you know, certainly through her teenage years.

1591
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that she I'm trying to think off the

1592
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: top of my head here. I believe she was born

1593
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: in eighty three, so she would have been probably late

1594
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: middle school or early high school when Robert Nursey passed away,

1595
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 1: And you know, she probably was a little girl that

1596
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: wasn't totally keen in or honed in on everything that

1597
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 1: was taking place with Bob er Say. But by Jim

1598
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: Mersey's own admission, when his father, bober Say lost a daughter,

1599
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: meaning Jim Irsay's sister, to a car accident, that's really

1600
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:25,799
Speaker 1: what spiraled bober Say into the rest of his life

1601
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: through alcoholism and addiction and instability. And certainly Bob er

1602
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 1: Say at one time was a very astute and prominent businessman.

1603
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: You don't build the kind of empire in the Chicago

1604
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: land area that he had from a business standpoint, and

1605
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 1: get yourself the kind of money to buy an NFL

1606
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: franchise by being anything but very sharp. But by the

1607
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: time the Colts had arrived in Indianapolis, Bob er Say

1608
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 1: was drowning in that addiction. And I don't mean that

1609
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 1: to make light of it at all. I mean it

1610
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: is a terrible disease. But it led to complete instability,

1611
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: inconsistency and consistent turmoil. The only consistency about the Colts

1612
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 1: for the first ten years that they were in this town.

1613
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: The only consistency was inconsistency and unpredictability and turmoil and

1614
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: all of it. And then you have Jim Orsay. You know,

1615
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: once Bob Ers passed and Jim Rsay became the sole owner,

1616
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: and Jim Rsay obviously a well loved owner in this

1617
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: town and a very charitable, kind hearted man. Towards the end,

1618
01:28:53,880 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: you could certainly make the point that the franchise had

1619
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: an inconsistency that it did not have for the better part,

1620
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: certainly of the Bill Pollion and Tony Dungee era. Jim

1621
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: Mersey gets credit for that because Jim Mersey was able

1622
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: to say, you guys are football guys. I am as well,

1623
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 1: but I'm going to trust you to do certain things,

1624
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: make certain decisions, et cetera. But in the end, and

1625
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: certainly around the time that Carlie erse Gordon was more

1626
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: prominently within the ownership group. You saw some of the

1627
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 1: erratics stuff take place, the declaration out of nowhere that

1628
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is no longer starting and Sam Ellinger is,

1629
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 1: or the removal of Carson Wentz before really he even

1630
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 1: got rooted as a starting quarterback that at times showed

1631
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: some flashes, the abrupt airdrop of Jeff Saturday as the

1632
01:29:56,479 --> 01:30:00,640
Speaker 1: interim head coach, the videos in front of jets and

1633
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: all chips in and all of those things. So is

1634
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: it possible that Carli Ersea Gordon realized that right now

1635
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: the strength in leadership for the Colts is in patience.

1636
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:21,759
Speaker 1: And as I talked about, somebody had told me recently

1637
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: that the real success in business decisions is found in

1638
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: making slow decision making, but then quick implementation. And sometimes

1639
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: leadership is found in doing the unpopular thing if you

1640
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: think it's the right thing. And it may just be

1641
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: that Carli Ersa Gordon the unpopular thing is not the

1642
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 1: fact that she believes in Chris Ballard. It may be

1643
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: that the unpopular thing was in not making a move

1644
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: right away because that's the right thing, because she knows

1645
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: that it is a franchise that is simply right now

1646
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 1: in need of stability. And even if she doesn't, and

1647
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she doesn't, but if it's possible that

1648
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 1: she thinks the same as a lot of people in

1649
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 1: this town do, that Chris Ballard is in need of

1650
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: a fresh start somewhere else, and the culture in need

1651
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 1: of a fresh start in terms of who is running

1652
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 1: the franchise. If that was the thought process, perhaps she

1653
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 1: looked at it and said, but right now is just

1654
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 1: not the right time because I'm still new to this

1655
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 1: in terms of being the CEO, and people are expecting

1656
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: that when there is a change at the top, everyone

1657
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: then worries that there's going to be like change all

1658
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: over the place and instability and everything else. We've all

1659
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 1: been through that in a work spot. And maybe she

1660
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: thought to herself, he has a year left on the contract.

1661
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: Even if I wanted to make a change, perhaps it's

1662
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:02,839
Speaker 1: better that I just let it naturally take its course

1663
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 1: as to not perpetuate the stereotype of instability. And I

1664
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 1: go back to the Tony Dungee tweet when John Harbaugh

1665
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: was relieved of his duties in Baltimore, where Tony Dungee said,

1666
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: good luck Baltimore in finding another or a better coach,

1667
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing what he said, But in that I

1668
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: began to think, is it possible that carl Ersa. Gordon

1669
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 1: actually looked at it and thought to herself, I can

1670
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: make this move right now, as people would like me

1671
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: to do. But I'm looking at the other franchises that

1672
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: are looking for a general manager. I'm looking at the

1673
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,600
Speaker 1: situation they're in in terms of their draft capital, the

1674
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: players on their roster. Oftentimes, some of those are situations

1675
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: where the GM is going to be able to bring

1676
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 1: in his own coach, and if she likes or believes

1677
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 1: in Shane Steichen or looks contractually at it, she may say,

1678
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult for me to go out

1679
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: and get a general manager. Not only that is coming

1680
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 1: into a situation where there's no first round pick the

1681
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: next two years. Not only that, there's coming into a

1682
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 1: situation where if she retains Shane Steiken, you're coming in

1683
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 1: and you are now inheriting a coach that you didn't handpick.

1684
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 1: But in addition to that, she may think to herself,

1685
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 1: if I send away my general manager within the first

1686
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:39,959
Speaker 1: year of being the buck stops here, CEO, what message

1687
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: does that send to other prospective people that might have

1688
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 1: interest in that job of saying, you know what, she's

1689
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: just like her grandfather, and she's just like the later

1690
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: years of her father, inconsistent and unpredictable. So maybe making

1691
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 1: the move that was the unpopular one of not making

1692
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: a move at all, was the right thing from the

1693
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 1: very beginning, and maybe at the end of the movie

1694
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 1: we look back and say, now it does make sense

1695
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 1: now that would be playing chess when the rest of

1696
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 1: us assumed it was checkers. But I kind of hope

1697
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 1: that's exactly the way it played out, but we'll probably

1698
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 1: never know until check made his called. Kevin Bowen joins

1699
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: us next Indiana and Oregon tonight. I don't know if

1700
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 1: you heard, but they played a night down at the

1701
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: Peach Bowl in Atlanta, the winner taking on Miami and

1702
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 1: the National Championship game in wait for it, Miami, which

1703
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: is why tickets have gone up just a little bit.

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01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: We should ask Kevin Bowen if he has a plastic

1705
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: Indiana helmet and a plastic Oregon helmet for his son

1706
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: to pick the game. He joins us now in the

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01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 1: Java House peeling guest line. You, of course hear them

1708
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 1: on the Fan Morning Show along with James Boyd and

1709
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 1: Jeff Rickard. Kevin Bowen joining us on the program. Kevin,

1710
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 1: is your son going to pick the game?

1711
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 10: So I have two college helmets.

1712
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,679
Speaker 11: They are a little actually at three back in the day,

1713
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 11: and I feel like, in Jake Querry fashion, he would

1714
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 11: love to guess the three helmets.

1715
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,839
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm going to guess that the three helmets

1716
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 1: you have would be a Notre Dame helmet, ding, ding ding.

1717
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I'll say that you have an Indiana helmet a helmet.

1718
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 11: My hint is this The other two helmets used to

1719
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 11: be conference foes, not in the Big ten. I'll just

1720
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 11: say the conference, the Big twelve conference for these two helmets,

1721
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 11: one I think can make some sense. The other one,

1722
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 11: I'll have to tell you. I think the reason why

1723
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 11: I got it. Okay, go ahead and guess.

1724
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 1: A lot of me to ask this. Are they still

1725
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve? One?

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01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 11: Yeah, one is, But you know I had I was

1727
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 11: even saying if that one is still in there, Yes,

1728
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 11: one is.

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01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: Still in the Big twelve. That rules out Texas. But

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01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 1: I'll say Texas, both of them at one time, we're

1731
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve, he said, Or they.

1732
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 11: Are this this man? He's a smarty Yes, Texas is

1733
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 11: one of them two? So who is the other still

1734
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 11: in the Big twelve school?

1735
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 1: The other one is still in the Big twelve. Now

1736
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: that's what throws me up, because I believe Oklahoma also

1737
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 1: defected into the SEC if I'm not mistaken, and that

1738
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: would make sense. Is there any let me ask you this,

1739
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,639
Speaker 1: Is there any plausible reason why you would have had

1740
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 1: said helmet as a kid or is it just like

1741
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 1: it was at a garage sale and it looked cool?

1742
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 8: None?

1743
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 11: I mean, I literally can't even think of a colts

1744
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 11: player that came from this school.

1745
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 10: I gave it to Mark Peer. Shout out to Mark Pierre,

1746
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 10: who I grew up with.

1747
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 11: He was a die hard bleep bleep fan and that's

1748
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 11: why I gave him my many helmet.

1749
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, So this is a school that has

1750
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: a die hard fan in the area.

1751
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:00,640
Speaker 11: In the area, correct, yes, uh huh yeah. It's the

1752
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 11: only fan of the school I've ever come across.

1753
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 10: In my life. Oklahoma State State, Kansas State.

1754
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 11: Wow, Okay, I think I might got it because of

1755
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 11: Michael Bishop.

1756
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 10: Do you remember that name?

1757
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 7: Oh?

1758
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course? Quarterback course hold on, yeah, By the

1759
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 1: way the Colts had was it didn't they have a

1760
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 1: linebacker named Askia Jones. What was his name?

1761
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 7: Not?

1762
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 6: Was it?

1763
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: Now? Hold on? Skia Jones was a basketball player that

1764
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 1: was for Kansas State.

1765
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 11: That's not ringing a bell. I mean, you obviously you've

1766
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 11: got pretty good Colts.

1767
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 1: Elijah Alexander, Elijah Alexander I think was a Kansas State guy.

1768
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 11: Oh and you know, now that I think about it,

1769
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 11: wasn't Ryan Lilja Kansas State guy.

1770
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's right. You

1771
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 1: had a buddy that was a Kansas State fan, state fan.

1772
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 11: I know, Mark Mark Pierre. I think he moved from

1773
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 11: Kansas State. But I went to Junior High with a

1774
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 11: McClay and he was a I mean, like a big

1775
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 11: Kansas and you know with what's his name, Bill Snyder.

1776
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 11: I mean they have a decent little run there with Stills.

1777
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, I'm trying to think twenty eleven or twelve,

1778
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 11: they almost made the national championship. They like pulled off

1779
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 11: a big or maybe they lost late in the season

1780
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 11: at helping Notre Dame get to the national title. I

1781
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 11: remember being very happy about that. Colin Klein, I think

1782
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 11: it was their quarterback. If that rings a.

1783
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: Bell, Colin Klein, that's it, I said, Chad Hutchinson, Colin Klein,

1784
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 1: that sounds right now that you mention it. Okay, Kevin,

1785
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: Let's begin with this before we get to Indiana, Oregon,

1786
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 1: because I do want to get into that, but I

1787
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 1: want to and I know you did it in the

1788
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 1: morning show, but just kind of give you a chance

1789
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 1: to recap I thought. And we'll begin with Carli ers

1790
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 1: Gordon and just her press conference in general. I don't

1791
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 1: know if you heard what I was just saying, but

1792
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 1: I wonder if it wasn't so much about the fact

1793
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 1: that she wanted to and stay, you know, believes in

1794
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,799
Speaker 1: Chris ballin and change staking and that as much as

1795
01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 1: she just felt right now like with her and you're

1796
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 1: and everything else, like, it wouldn't have been the time

1797
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 1: even if she wanted to make a move, if you will.

1798
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: Where did you see it?

1799
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 7: You see it?

1800
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 10: I mean, that's that's a thought that's crossed my mind.

1802
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 11: I you know, part of me thought this, Jake, Like

1803
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 11: you know, Okay, so her dad passes in May, you know,

1804
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 11: June is when she has.

1805
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 10: That press conference with her sisters. You know, through June

1806
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 10: and July.

1807
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,679
Speaker 11: Well, the first time I think we're in your position,

1808
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 11: like that of any whatever ownership CEO have you wanted

1809
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 11: to find it. I think you always have to plan

1810
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 11: for you know, what's in that top right drawer, you know,

1811
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 11: what does that list look like? Because you never know

1812
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 11: when Andrew Luck's going to shock the world, You never

1813
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 11: know when Josh McDaniels is gonna whatever turn.

1814
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 10: Us back on you, et cetera, et cetera.

1815
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 11: So you know, I would think for the June and

1816
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 11: July months, as optimistic as he would like to be

1817
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 11: about the season. You know, so much of the Chris

1818
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 11: Bauer resume especially and even a little ssichen would say, hey,

1819
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 11: you know, things don't go well this year.

1820
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 10: We might need to make changes. So you know, you're

1821
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 10: kind of planning for that now.

1822
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 11: Maybe two months into the year that doesn't start to

1823
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:57,879
Speaker 11: look necessarily like it's going to be happening.

1824
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 10: But still, you know that was a thought that I had.

1825
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,600
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I've always been curious just you know,

1826
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 11: from a thirty to forty million dollar decision given you

1827
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 11: know the nature of you know, going from their dad

1828
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 11: to the daughters. And again I'm pretty uneducated when it

1829
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 11: comes to all the finances. You know, how much of

1830
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 11: that was at play, if at all? Or is that

1831
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 11: just kind of a stupid thought to even bring up.

1832
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 1: No, I think it's a legitimate until we hear otherwise, Kevin,

1833
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's a reason, but I've mentioned that too.

1834
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there have to be I would assume,

1835
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, just logistics, and that's maybe the wrong word,

1836
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 1: but the finances of all of it. I would imagine

1837
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 1: that it's not like you just walk in and you go, okay,

1838
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, we we got to register online and make

1839
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 1: sure that everybody knows who owns the franchise. Now there's

1840
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 1: a lot that goes into that, right from taxes and

1841
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 1: all of that, and you wonder if it wasn't Hey,

1842
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:56,759
Speaker 1: we got to spend the first year handling the business

1843
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: side of this and then we can get into the

1844
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 1: football side, which would be understand if that was the thought,

1845
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 1: right right.

1846
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know that again, it's a thought that's kind

1847
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 11: of crossed my mind. But my hand is fully raised,

1848
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 11: and I don't have a great great understanding when it

1849
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 11: comes to that, you know, I think after hearing Carly

1850
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 11: and then hearing Chris yesterday, I mean, I think it's

1851
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 11: pretty clear that whatever affinity that we might have thought

1852
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:20,680
Speaker 11: the orsays have towards Chris Ballard, I would say it's

1853
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 11: even higher. I mean the fact that you know, Chris

1854
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 11: mentioned yesterday that, you know, the top question to Carly

1855
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 11: to him was you know, do you still have your

1856
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 11: shimmer or juju? To me, that's a question you ask,

1857
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 11: you know, I guess to go back to our Kansas

1858
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 11: State analogy. That's what you ask seventy year old Bill Snyder.

1859
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 11: That's what you ask, you know, Jim Beheim coach k

1860
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 11: Roy Williams when all these changes are happening in college basketball,

1861
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 11: and hey, do you still have the same sort of

1862
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 11: whatever confidence belief that you can get it done? To me,

1863
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 11: that's not the top question you ask a guy who's

1864
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 11: resume is as bleak as Ballard. So that that was

1865
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 11: kind of eye opening, honestly.

1866
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:04,639
Speaker 1: The Ballard himself, and my frustration is simply the fact

1867
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:07,680
Speaker 1: that I just felt like there were going to be

1868
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:11,919
Speaker 1: a lot of questions about, you know, for Chris Ballard,

1869
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: of I think people would have liked to have seen

1870
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 1: for him, I did, you know, for him to come

1871
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 1: out and say, and I get it. You know, look,

1872
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 1: it's him good enough whatever else, but but kind of

1873
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 1: more of just an explanation of like where the vision is,

1874
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,680
Speaker 1: why we should be optimistic, et cetera. It felt to

1875
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,600
Speaker 1: me like same old song and dance from him. And

1876
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 1: maybe that's too my being too harsh in saying it

1877
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 1: that way.

1878
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 11: That way, well, I mean, I guess, speaking first of

1879
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 11: Ballard's like temperament, I thought he was less animated than

1880
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 11: he usually is. I mean, he really wasn't as I mean, yeah,

1881
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 11: I mean he got philosophical on a pain versus suffering sermon,

1882
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,839
Speaker 11: but outside of that, I didn't think he was as whatever,

1883
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 11: banging of the table, cussing, you know, getting a little

1884
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 11: snippy like he can.

1885
01:42:57,439 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 10: You know, I didn't really sense any of.

1886
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 11: You know, as far as what is different, you know,

1887
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 11: I think there isn't or like words wise, not necessarily

1888
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 11: temperament wise. I mean, I do think there's an element

1889
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 11: of simply of you know, to echo probably what Carly

1890
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 11: said more than Chris of Hey, our first two months

1891
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 11: the season, we're going great, and we just need to,

1892
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 11: you know, pray to the football gods harder.

1893
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 4: Again.

1894
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 10: That's probably more of where Carly came from than Chris.

1895
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 11: I thought there were kind of two big areas of

1896
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:28,759
Speaker 11: improvement out of Chris, one a little bit more tangible

1897
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 11: than the other. The one that he feels like he's

1898
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 11: got to improve is the defense. We got to get younger,

1899
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 11: we got to get faster. He said that on several occasions,

1900
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 11: particularly when it comes to the defensive front. And then

1901
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 11: two this is a little bit more you know, abstract,

1902
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 11: but it is, Hey, we've got to finish games better.

1903
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 11: We've got to handle adversity better. You know, if you

1904
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 11: look at the five year playoff drought, you could really

1905
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 11: make a case to varying degrees, but they have collapsed

1906
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 11: in some form or fashion in all five of those years.

1907
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 11: This is not like they've kind of backed you know,

1908
01:43:55,840 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty, I guess twenty eighteen, especially eighteen. I

1909
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 11: want to say they started one in five and then

1910
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 11: they got super hot late in the season to get

1911
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 11: into the postseason. There, you know, that's not been I mean,

1912
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 11: I can't imagine last time they've had a winning December

1913
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 11: January combination.

1914
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 10: In particular obviously the games that truly truly matter.

1915
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 11: So you know, I thought those were the two things

1916
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Speaker 11: that were different from Ballard at least, like you know,

1917
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 11: plan of attack again, temperament. I don't know, pretty same old,

1918
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Speaker 11: same old. I'm trying not to be like apathetic towards it,

1919
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Speaker 11: because you know, you could have had Bark Dyton play

1920
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:37,120
Speaker 11: audio for me this morning and said what press conference

1921
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 11: do you think this clip was from? And I could

1922
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 11: have named five different years, So you know, I do

1923
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 11: fall into that trap at times with them.

1924
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Speaker 1: I mean that that is my thing of it. It

1925
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 1: just feels like the same story, and I mean, I'll

1926
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 1: say it simply in that term. It feels like the

1927
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 1: same story. But as you walked away from it, Kevin,

1928
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, even bowing my guest Joba

1929
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:02,600
Speaker 1: house Peel and poor guest line. Of course, you hear

1930
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 1: him on the Morning Show along with James Boyd and

1931
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Rickard from seven until ten am here on the fan.

1932
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Speaker 1: As you walked away, Kevin, give me the question about

1933
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 1: the Colts off season that was most burning to you

1934
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 1: when you pulled into West fifty sixth Street, that was

1935
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 1: still lingering in your head when you left West fifty

1936
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 1: sixth Street.

1937
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 11: Well, I'll just add one more, and you're you're a

1938
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 11: good sport, so you won't take this as big of

1939
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 11: a dig as you know, maybe people listening in their

1940
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 11: car will. But to me, Ballard is defending a resume

1941
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,040
Speaker 11: that looks like Jake Query's transcript from Kansas and IU.

1942
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 1: Yes, that is correct answer. Now, I'm aware now and

1943
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: we're specifically in the math and sciences aspect for me, right.

1944
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, yes, so again, I know you are a

1945
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 11: good sport, so you can you can take that.

1946
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:51,759
Speaker 10: But yeah, I mean, that's it's.

1947
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 11: An analogy that I thought, but I figured I would

1948
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 11: save it for two o'clock on a Friday with you. Yeah,

1949
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 11: I mean as far as the question, I mean, I

1950
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 11: will you know again, I will say this about Bout

1951
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 11: and I do, and you know, maybe no one cares

1952
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 11: about this, but I do think from a press conference

1953
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 11: setting he is usually a little bit more candid.

1954
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Speaker 10: Than I think most gms.

1955
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 11: So I was curious, like, okay, what is this literally

1956
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 11: just praying to the football gods like we did everything

1957
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 11: right the first two months of the season, And again,

1958
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 11: he didn't.

1959
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Speaker 10: Go all the way there.

1960
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 11: He made it very clear that defensively, again, you've got

1961
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 11: to get younger and you got to get faster now,

1962
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 11: certainly I can hear people say, and I'm one of them.

1963
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,640
Speaker 11: I brought it up this morning. Wait, aren't you the

1964
01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 11: one that's built this defense for years and years and years,

1965
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 11: and now you know you needed a new coordinator last year,

1966
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 11: and now you need to get younger and faster, you.

1967
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:37,360
Speaker 10: Know all of that. So you know, those are obviously fair.

1968
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 11: I mean, there probably is still a root of it,

1969
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 11: of like we'll see how much they actually change this defense.

1970
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 11: But I mean, you are still needing to pray to

1971
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 11: the football gods very significantly, Like you need Daniel Jones

1972
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:53,879
Speaker 11: to have an abnormal Achilles recovery, you need Deforce Buckner

1973
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 11: to come back from a next surgery at the age

1974
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 11: of thirty one.

1975
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 7: Uh.

1976
01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 11: And I guess if Chavarious hop plays, which is a

1977
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:05,639
Speaker 11: huge question, you know, I guess that question is very

1978
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 11: much up in the air in my opinion, And so

1979
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,559
Speaker 11: who knows what that cornerback position becomes. Obviously a lot

1980
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 11: of pressure on saus Gardner, a lot of pressure on

1981
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,560
Speaker 11: Justin Whalley coming back from the torn acl you know,

1982
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,600
Speaker 11: Kenny Moore given his age. So I mean, those are

1983
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 11: probably some of the lingering questions of without a first

1984
01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 11: round pick, with so much of the cap space looking

1985
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,600
Speaker 11: like it needs to go to quarterback and wide out,

1986
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 11: you know.

1987
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 10: How do you create that cap space? How are you?

1988
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 11: Are you just relying on instant impact defensive guys, which

1989
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 11: is just a lot to ask for, particularly with the

1990
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 11: defensive coordinator that I don't think has always been eagerly

1991
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 11: awaiting playing young players.

1992
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 1: By the way, Kevin, do you happen to know we're

1993
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 1: doing a little Colt trivia here? Are you ready?

1994
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 4: First off?

1995
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 1: First off, let me say this. The difference between my

1996
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:54,759
Speaker 1: academic resume and Chris Ballard's resume is my academic resume

1997
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,759
Speaker 1: was disaster in the beginning, got better as it went along,

1998
01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 1: kind of the opposite, right.

1999
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:03,679
Speaker 10: Okay, you handle adversity well, I do.

2000
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 1: Well.

2001
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 10: I had a feeling you would go. I was hesitant

2002
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 10: to bring it up because I had a feeling you

2003
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 10: it would.

2004
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 11: It would weigh on you a little bit, and you

2005
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 11: would and you would come back to it at some

2006
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:12,839
Speaker 11: point in the interview.

2007
01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I listen, listen. I mean my year

2008
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 1: at the University of Kansas academically was basically Jeff Saturday

2009
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 1: air drop in season, right, I mean That's That's about

2010
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 1: how that went. So it was not until I don't

2011
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 1: know that I handle adversity as much as like, it's

2012
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 1: a lot easier to do at fifty than it is

2013
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 1: at twenty. Focus was was a bit of a challenge. Okay.

2014
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: But here's my question for you, Speaking of academics, I

2015
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 1: have an academic trivia question for you, Kevin Bowen, You ready, yes,

2016
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 1: I would like for you to tell me what Colts

2017
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: running back DJ Giddons and Juju Brents have in common.

2018
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 10: Oh gosh, Giddons, how did I forget that one?

2019
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 11: Giddens for sure? Yeah, I mean Juju started at Kansas State, yeah,

2020
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 11: and then transferred to ER Yeah, no, Star I was.

2021
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: And started I would finish at Kansas State, right yeah yeah.

2022
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 10: And then Giddens for sure.

2023
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2024
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 10: Yeah, those two just went right.

2025
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 11: It probably shows you how much DJ Giddens played this

2026
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 11: year that it just went right right over the top

2027
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 11: of my.

2028
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,879
Speaker 1: Head, Kevin, and going back and looking at and assessing

2029
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 1: the Colts season and I know that Daniel Jones, you know,

2030
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 1: we can look at it and say and we can

2031
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 1: discuss till the cows come home. The merit of you know,

2032
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 1: attributing things to injury and et cetera. My one concern,

2033
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 1: and I want you to talk me off this ledge,

2034
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: but my one concern would be that I thought as

2035
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 1: much if you look at the way Daniel Jones played,

2036
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 1: and he was sensational during the the you know, when

2037
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 1: the Colts got off to their great start, and we

2038
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 1: can say that it was once he had Initially I

2039
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 1: think it was a strain and then you know, obviously

2040
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 1: it turned the microfracture in his leg. We can say

2041
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 1: that that's when things started to regress. But my concern

2042
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 1: is that things started to regress even before that, when

2043
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 1: teams started to fit physically, like Blitz at him in

2044
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:05,760
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in particular, and that that blueprint was then out

2045
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: there that caused him to kind of slip back into

2046
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 1: New York Giant Daniel Jones, And that is something that

2047
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:14,600
Speaker 1: if it maintains as it was, they're going to be

2048
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:16,920
Speaker 1: played differently next year and it's going to be a

2049
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 1: challenge for them if when he's healthy and assuming he's here, now,

2050
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong in that assessment.

2051
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 10: No, I mean, I think there's a couple Daniel Jones questions.

2052
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 11: One, you know, obviously from an achilles standpoint, you know,

2053
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 11: he's got to get back to full health. And you know,

2054
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:35,640
Speaker 11: the thing I've Kevira saying about Jones is, to me,

2055
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 11: it's not when he can play, it's when can he

2056
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:40,679
Speaker 11: be himself? Because you know, you can make the case

2057
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 11: fibula fibula wise that kind of limited him, and you know,

2058
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 11: you look at Tyler Warren's numbers for example, I think

2059
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 11: it really limited a guy like Warren, you know, not

2060
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 11: having some of that bootleg stuff and you know a

2061
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 11: lot of the plays that they dialed up to Warren.

2062
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 11: And then you know, even if you put the injury

2063
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:57,919
Speaker 11: to the side, I think there still is a general

2064
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 11: you know, can Daniel Jones liver over the course of

2065
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:02,840
Speaker 11: an NFL season? I mean, you know, I think if

2066
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,599
Speaker 11: this year taught us anything, it is just another reminder

2067
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 11: of the NFL season.

2068
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 10: It might be the shortest of you know, the major

2069
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 10: professional sports.

2070
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 11: But man is at a grind. I mean it is

2071
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 11: seventeen weeks is a long long time, and you know

2072
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 11: you're proving yourself on these individual Sundays. You know, week

2073
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:22,879
Speaker 11: in a week out is no guarantee, and there's obviously

2074
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 11: a ton of parody around the league, and you know,

2075
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 11: Jones obviously was stiching there was nothing to go off

2076
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 11: of until you know, September whatever, and then you know,

2077
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:34,639
Speaker 11: did the NFL kind of catch up? Obviously the schedule

2078
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 11: is very backloaded. You know, there is one kind of

2079
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 11: hypothetical I thought of that I don't know if people

2080
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 11: care about, but you know how much Carly really stressed

2081
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 11: that eight and two start.

2082
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,600
Speaker 10: I am curious if you just reverse some fifty to

2083
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 10: fifty games both ways. You know, if you take whatever

2084
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 10: Denver and Arizona early in the season, and if you

2085
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 10: say the Colts lose those, but then you come back

2086
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 10: later in the year and you say, hey, they win

2087
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 10: in Kansas City, they finished that game in Seattle. But

2088
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 10: it's more of a balanced eight nine A. Do you

2089
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 10: get the Sauce Gardner trade? B. Do you have this

2090
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:11,679
Speaker 10: general whatever? I guess, you know, affection that it's.

2091
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:13,200
Speaker 11: Not the right word, but like that's what we're popping

2092
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 11: in my head for what the first two months of

2093
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 11: the season were that it almost seemed like we could

2094
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 11: have said hot at Halloween, they were all coming back.

2095
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,600
Speaker 11: If it was a little bit more balanced, would you

2096
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 11: have seen, you know, such a quick.

2097
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, yes, we're running a back and there's no questions asked.

2098
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then obviously you get into the aspect too

2099
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 1: of how much was schedule a factor based on the

2100
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 1: week teams they played in the beginning. But that's kind

2101
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 1: of the reality of the NFL, right, You're always going

2102
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 1: to have that on your schedule. Kevin Bowen joining us

2103
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 1: Java House, Peel and Port guest line. All right, Kevin,

2104
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:48,760
Speaker 1: before we let you go into the college game. Obviously

2105
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 1: from an Indiana standpoint, you know, we can sit here

2106
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 1: and talk until probably August about how unbelievable it's been.

2107
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 1: But let's get down to the brass tacks. Your thoughts

2108
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 1: on the matchup with Oregon, what you anticipate to the

2109
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: Peach Bowl.

2110
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,680
Speaker 11: First, Boy, last night was unbelievable. I mean, you know,

2111
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 11: great game, four times in the last seven minutes of

2112
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 11: lead changing. I mean, you know, you just don't get

2113
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 11: that in football very very often, let alone on that

2114
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 11: on that stage. And both the quarterbacks, I thought their emotion,

2115
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:17,880
Speaker 11: you know, as the game moved along and in postgame

2116
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 11: was you know, something to watch. You know, as far

2117
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 11: as tonight is concerned, I really like Indiana. I like

2118
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,680
Speaker 11: them with the three and a half points. I look

2119
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:29,759
Speaker 11: back on the first meeting, I realized, you know, whatever,

2120
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 11: the stats, beating the team twice, they aren't very pro

2121
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 11: Indiana historically. But you know, they also had their most

2122
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 11: penalized game of the year at Oregon. You know, Charlie

2123
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,679
Speaker 11: Becker was not he didn't have a catch in that game.

2124
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:42,680
Speaker 11: So you know, I think there are a lot of

2125
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 11: elements to Indiana that are better. And I mean, I

2126
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 11: continue to harp on this, and I don't know, you know,

2127
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:49,839
Speaker 11: if Oregon wins.

2128
01:53:49,640 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 10: It'll probably be like, wait, did it not matter?

2129
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:53,719
Speaker 11: But you know, when you look at the transfer portal

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Speaker 11: chaos right now around college football, the fact that Indiana's

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Speaker 11: coordinators know where they're going to be next year, whereas

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Speaker 11: Oregon's coats are both going to be taking head coaching jobs,

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Speaker 11: I believe both first time head coaches elsewhere. To me

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Speaker 11: is a huge deal, you know, from a preparation standpoint.

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Speaker 11: Let's not be naive. If I were whatever Kevin Bowen

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Speaker 11: and I were asked to do, you know, one more

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01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 11: show on our on our station, but then you told

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Speaker 11: me I had a new job starting on Monday, and

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Speaker 11: I need to do all this prep work for the

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Speaker 11: new job.

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Speaker 10: I'm probably gonna lead lean towards that.

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Speaker 11: Then you know, one more show from seven to ten

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01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 11: and I get you know, winning the national title and

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Speaker 11: all of that. There obviously is strong appeal for these

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Speaker 11: coordinators to want to continue to call the plays. But

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Speaker 11: I just think Indiana from a staff standpoint, as if

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Speaker 11: they needed another leg up, which they frankly don't, I

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Speaker 11: think they have that so I think, I said this

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Speaker 11: morning twenty four to sixteen, I really think as long

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Speaker 11: as they get Dante More off his spot, if you will,

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Speaker 11: and create some of the pressure, then I think they'll

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Speaker 11: be uh, they'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And Dnjaymore is a really good player, I mean

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01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 1: a big challenge. But I love Indiana's front four. I

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01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 1: love him defensively. And I said, Kevin, you would be

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01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 1: a fool at this point to to snicker at Indiana.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, I'm done doubting Indiana.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the bottom line. I'm done doubting Indiana. All right,

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Speaker 1: Kevin will be along with the guys on Monday discussing

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Speaker 1: it and more seven o'clock in the morning. Kevin, have

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Speaker 1: a wonderful weekend, all right.

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Speaker 10: All right, Jake Nathaniel, great weekend.

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Speaker 1: Guys, appreciate it. Kevin Bonen joining us on the Java House,

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01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,760
Speaker 1: peel in poor guest line, Dave Revson going to join us,

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Speaker 1: Big ten Network coming up at twenty before three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: So when we come back, it is a Friday. It

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Speaker 1: is Franciscan Health, Feel Good, good for the Heart Friday,

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Speaker 1: one of those good stories, exactly what we were just

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Speaker 1: talking about. But there's something else taking place that is

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Speaker 1: very cool in Central Indiana this weekend. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 3: Next query in Company on ninety three five and one

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Speaker 3: oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 1: It's a Friday, two o'clock hour. You know what that means.

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Speaker 1: Franciscan Health, feel good, good for the Heart Friday. And

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Speaker 1: this is the first installment for twenty twenty six. And

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Speaker 1: you heard me mention this in twenty twenty five. I

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Speaker 1: think that we so often think about heart health and

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Speaker 1: you know, preventing heart attacks and strokes and things like that.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean this to stereotype or anything as such,

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Speaker 1: but I do think that we, especially when it comes

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Speaker 1: to a sports talk radio program, we kind of think

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Speaker 1: of it as like the men's ailment because when you

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Speaker 1: think about Sanford and Son and the you know, you

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01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 1: watch movies and you always see a character having a

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Speaker 1: heart attack, the symptoms of a heart attack, the signs

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Speaker 1: of a heart attack. I mean, I've talked all of

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Speaker 1: you are probably tired of hearing about what happened in

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01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: terms of my symptoms for a heart attack, and we

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01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 1: forget about the fact that heart disease is also something

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Speaker 1: that you know, is an increasing risk and danger for women.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I realized that we have thirty four

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Speaker 1: female listeners on this program, but most of you listening

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Speaker 1: have of whether it be you know, girlfriend, mother, a sister, coworker, wife,

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01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, we all have women in our lives that

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Speaker 1: we want to make sure as well that we are

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Speaker 1: aware of the risk from a female standpoint. And it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit different for women because when it comes

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Speaker 1: to a heart attack, for women, the signs are not

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Speaker 1: the classic symptoms that men have. So a lot of

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Speaker 1: times a woman maybe having a heart disease without knowing,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not the heart doesn't jump up and

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01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 1: yell at as loud sometimes for women as it does

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Speaker 1: for men. Different symptoms and over the course of this year,

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Speaker 1: it's the goal for myself and Franciscan to be able

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Speaker 1: to when we talk about heart health and what you

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01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:52,160
Speaker 1: can do for yourself, you know, lean it towards and

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Speaker 1: talk specifically about that for women this year because it

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Speaker 1: is something that is an increasing number unfortunately when it

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Speaker 1: comes to women. But let me begin by saying for

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Speaker 1: all of you, men and women, the number one heart

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Speaker 1: program in Indiana for cardiology by health grades, number one

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Speaker 1: in Indiana for interventional coronary care for major cardiac surgery

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Speaker 1: by care checks is Franciscan Health and they offer their

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Speaker 1: forty nine dollars heart scan. I signed Shannon up, for example,

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Speaker 1: for a heart scan to make sure that and it's

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01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 1: non invasive. It's very simple to do. You go in

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Speaker 1: for a heart scan and you get that calcium score

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01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 1: that comes with Franciscan with a heart health risk assessment,

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01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 1: and that gives you then the roadmap of where you

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01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 1: are in terms of your cardiovascular and cardiological health. And

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Speaker 1: Franciscan is the very best in making sure that they

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01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:45,839
Speaker 1: are staying on top of all of this and helping

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01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 1: out in particular with women, but men as well. If

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Speaker 1: you are a former smoker, you're over the age of forty.

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01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 1: You have had diabetes or obesity, then certainly the heart

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01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: scan is important for you, but I would recommend it

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01:58:57,760 --> 01:59:00,200
Speaker 1: for everybody because it is simple to do and it

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01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 1: is non invasive. Like I mentioned in just forty nine dollars,

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Speaker 1: you can pay out of pocket. The heart health risk

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01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:08,480
Speaker 1: assessment alone makes it worth it. The telephone number eight

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Speaker 1: three three two three eight zero six eight eight. I

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Speaker 1: don't expect you right now, if you're driving in your car,

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01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 1: if you're on your way to Atlanta to watch Indiana tonight,

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Speaker 1: whatever it might be, I wouldn't expect you to eight

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Speaker 1: three three two three eight zero six eight eight immediately

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01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: remember that. But you can always send me a text

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01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 1: I will get you the number, or you can always

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01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:33,720
Speaker 1: simply go to Franciscanhealth dot org slash screening bundles. Franciscan

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Speaker 1: Health Heart Scan on Google will also do it for you.

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Speaker 1: But I simply wanted to for this Franciscan Health feel good,

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01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:42,600
Speaker 1: good for the heart Friday, tip the cap to the

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Speaker 1: IHSAA and as well, good luck. As we are going

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01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 1: to talk occasionally about women and heart health in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six, what about women in sports that perhaps you

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Speaker 1: weren't even aware is on the horizon, like, for example,

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Speaker 1: this weekend, the IHSAA Girls Wrestling Regionals taking place this weekend.

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Speaker 1: This is just the second year that the ISSAA has

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Speaker 1: had girls wrestling as a sanctioned sport, and it is

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Speaker 1: continuing to grow in popularity. This week in the regionals Goshen, Rochester, Alexandrium, Alexandria, Monroe,

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Speaker 1: and locally speaking, Morrisville, Mount Vernon, Ben Davis, West Washington,

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Speaker 1: and Floyd Central all the sectionals that are feeding into

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Speaker 1: the regionals at Morrisville, and there are some girls that

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Speaker 1: are going for a perfect season, going for an unbeaten record.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's simply this when it comes to wrestling.

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Speaker 1: And I was never a wrestler. I remember in middle

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Speaker 1: school a lot of my buddies tried out for the

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Speaker 1: wrestling team and did wrestling. It is such an individualized

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Speaker 1: sport of discipline and an individualized sport of confidence and belief.

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Speaker 1: And I think the ISSAA gets a lot of credit

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Speaker 1: here and deserves a lot of credit here because for

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Speaker 1: all young people, for all young people, discipline is so important,

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Speaker 1: but more so just belief and confidence. All of us

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Speaker 1: can think back to when we were in high school

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Speaker 1: and we all had that one little insecurity. We all did,

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Speaker 1: and in particular for young ladies and young girls, I

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Speaker 1: think there is such a challenge in the society that

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Speaker 1: we live in today for young girls to live up

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Speaker 1: to different standards and to at times be forced to

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Speaker 1: just feel an insecurity. So to have another sport that

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Speaker 1: allows girls to go out and learn about confidence, learn

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Speaker 1: about discipline, and learn about the individualized task of being

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Speaker 1: their best. I think it's excellent that the ISSAA, now

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Speaker 1: in their second year, is allowing that to be on

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Speaker 1: display with girls wrestling. And the best of luck to

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Speaker 1: all of the young ladies participating this weekend in the regionals.

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Speaker 1: We talk so much about Indiana Oregon, but there are

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Speaker 1: other great sports that are taking place around the state.

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Speaker 1: But back to that game I just mentioned. Dave Revsen

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Speaker 1: Big ten Network joins us next Query.

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Speaker 3: In Company on ninety three five and one oh seven

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Speaker 3: five the Fan.

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Speaker 1: So Indiana and Oregon tonight in the Peach Bowl. I

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Speaker 1: do kind of feel like and I know I said

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Speaker 1: this off the top. Dave Revsen said to join us

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Speaker 1: just a minute here from the Big ten Network. I

2287
02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 1: know I said this off the top. But it does

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02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 1: feel to me like they should just simply like relabel

2289
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Speaker 1: it as you know, and that's no disrespect to the

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Speaker 1: Peach Bowl. Maybe, and you folks tell me if I'm

2291
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Speaker 1: in the minority here, maybe I'm the only one that

2292
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Speaker 1: feels this way. But forever, you know, the the Fiesta Bowl,

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Speaker 1: the Orange Bowl, the Rose Bowl, and the Peach Bowl

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Speaker 1: was always kind of that one. It's a fabulous bowl.

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02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:52,920
Speaker 1: But Indiana in eighty seven, for example, they lose the

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Speaker 1: chance to go to the Rose Bowl and then and

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02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:56,480
Speaker 1: then they go to the Peach Bowl. Now they win

2298
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 1: the Rose Ball and they're on the way to the

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Speaker 1: Peach Bowl, the National semi final. More simply to say it.

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Speaker 1: But Java House, Peel and Port guest line is where

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Speaker 1: we go to the Big Tech net, the Big ten network.

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Speaker 1: Dave Repsen, Dave, we have discussed this before and I

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Speaker 1: want to and appreciate your time. You began your career

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Speaker 1: in Texas. Correct from a television standpoint, I did, Yes,

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Speaker 1: what market were you in? I can't recall.

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Speaker 7: Sherman Texas, Sherman Sherman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Sherman spot. Okay. So here's my question. When

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Speaker 1: when Dave Rebsen was beginning his television career in Sherman, Texas,

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Speaker 1: which was a more likely scenario for you that you

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Speaker 1: would someday be the face of the Big Ten network,

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Speaker 1: or that as the face of the Big Ten network,

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Speaker 1: you would be talking about a national semi final featuring

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Speaker 1: Big Ten teams Oregon and Indiana playing in football.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's such a good question because obviously the Big

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02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:55,520
Speaker 7: Ten Network didn't exist, so that seemed like a far

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Speaker 7: flung idea.

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Speaker 1: Neither did Indiana football.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Indiana football is just rumor, and the notion of

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Speaker 7: Indiana facing Oregon as conference members. I think, you know,

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Speaker 7: the whole thing is a little.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, So but let's talk about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is obviously the second matchup, and I've been talking

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Speaker 1: about this a lot today. But I'm curious, from your

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Speaker 1: standpoint in breaking this down and talking to those members

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Speaker 1: of the Big Ten Network that break down games with

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Speaker 1: you between Oregon and Indiana, which one would you anticipate

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Speaker 1: maybe coming up with more different looks than what we

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Speaker 1: saw in their matchup in Eugene.

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Speaker 7: Oh Man, I don't know. It was interesting. Signetty kind

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Speaker 7: of talked about this yesterday, right, And he kind of said, well,

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Speaker 7: they studied what we did and we're going to work

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Speaker 7: on what we did wrong, and then we have to

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Speaker 7: anticipate how they might correct for what they did wrong.

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Speaker 7: And I just think there is a little bit of

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Speaker 7: a cat and mouse game with it. You know, if

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Speaker 7: you're Indiana, I mean I would guess you stay more

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Speaker 7: with the same approach at least the outset, just because

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Speaker 7: it was successful. But you have ways that you can

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Speaker 7: jigg and zad depending on how the game goes. But

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Speaker 7: you know, to me, I like, in watching back that

2341
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:15,720
Speaker 7: game this week, I mean I thought, in hindsight like

2342
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:19,640
Speaker 7: Indiana was clearly the better team in game one. I mean,

2343
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:23,120
Speaker 7: up front, they really dominated you. I just felt like,

2344
02:05:23,400 --> 02:05:25,880
Speaker 7: don't say more. I mean he technically was pressured, I

2345
02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:29,240
Speaker 7: guess on half of his dropbacks. In watching the game back,

2346
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:31,440
Speaker 7: I mean it felt like more honestly to me, I

2347
02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:33,080
Speaker 7: mean it thought it was really hard for him to

2348
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:36,320
Speaker 7: get a clean pocket. So I think, like X and

2349
02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 7: O stuff aside, just physically it felt like Indiana was

2350
02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:42,160
Speaker 7: the better team to me in that game. The pick

2351
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:45,839
Speaker 7: six was a huge play that made the game closer

2352
02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:48,880
Speaker 7: than I kind of feel like it was in watching

2353
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 7: it back. So I feel like Oregon's got more questions

2354
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:55,680
Speaker 7: to answer than I you does. But if we know

2355
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:59,000
Speaker 7: anything about Kurt Signetti, He's not going to be complacent

2356
02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:02,200
Speaker 7: and just down the waarrels of the first game. I mean,

2357
02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:04,120
Speaker 7: I think that's part of what makes him and his

2358
02:06:04,240 --> 02:06:07,920
Speaker 7: staff so great as they uncover every single rock.

2359
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 1: You know, and Dave, we obviously here have been focused

2360
02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:13,800
Speaker 1: on the things that Kurt Signetti has been saying, and

2361
02:06:13,880 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 1: the Indiana approach to it, and that, you know, Charlie

2362
02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:18,320
Speaker 1: Becker's emergence, you know, things that we maybe didn't see

2363
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 1: at Austin Stadium. But from your perspective in covering it

2364
02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:25,560
Speaker 1: this week, what sort of things has Dan Lanning said

2365
02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:29,160
Speaker 1: about Indiana? There seems to be a great reciprocal respect

2366
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:30,320
Speaker 1: between these two coaches.

2367
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 7: That's been my sense in listening to both of them,

2368
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:36,960
Speaker 7: that they have a ton of respect for one another.

2369
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:40,000
Speaker 7: I think it's interesting just the disparate paths between the

2370
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 7: two of them. That Kurt Signetti this is his opportunity,

2371
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:47,640
Speaker 7: that he's a college football lifer, and that he bet

2372
02:06:47,680 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 7: on himself, and all these narratives that we all know

2373
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:52,680
Speaker 7: about he didn't really get his opportunity until he was

2374
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 7: in his sixties. Dan Lanning is one of the youngest

2375
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 7: coaches in Power conference football. It's not that, you know,

2376
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:01,920
Speaker 7: he did work incredibly hard to get where he is,

2377
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:05,120
Speaker 7: but his assent was just a lot quicker than Signettes.

2378
02:07:05,240 --> 02:07:08,400
Speaker 7: And yet even though their approaches are very different, kind

2379
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:11,000
Speaker 7: of in the way they carry themselves, in their demeanor,

2380
02:07:11,320 --> 02:07:14,160
Speaker 7: I still think like there's a lot of similarities. I mean,

2381
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 7: just kind of the belief in the line of scrimmage,

2382
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:21,400
Speaker 7: the belief in playing great defense, the belief in toughness

2383
02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:24,320
Speaker 7: and physicality and all those kinds of things. I mean,

2384
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:27,520
Speaker 7: you know, this Oregon team is just kind of built differently,

2385
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:30,520
Speaker 7: I think than some of the Oregon teams that were

2386
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:34,080
Speaker 7: in the national spotlight let's say a decade or so ago.

2387
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:36,960
Speaker 7: And to me, that's a huge credit to Dan Lanning.

2388
02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:40,160
Speaker 7: It's a credit to Organ's administration as well, kind of

2389
02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 7: understanding that this is the way I think that you

2390
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:44,800
Speaker 7: win in mont college football. You can have the fun,

2391
02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:47,360
Speaker 7: flashy offense that both these teams haven't and have a

2392
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:49,240
Speaker 7: chance to put up points. And you know, no team

2393
02:07:49,600 --> 02:07:52,040
Speaker 7: has more plays at twenty yards or longer this year

2394
02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 7: than Oregon. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that

2395
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:57,840
Speaker 7: Oregan does that is recognizable to those previous teams. But

2396
02:07:58,280 --> 02:08:00,880
Speaker 7: the emphasis on the line of scrimmage, playing great defense,

2397
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:05,520
Speaker 7: that's that's Dan Lanning's thumbprint on this team. And I

2398
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,760
Speaker 7: think Kurt Signetti is pretty similar in terms of what

2399
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:08,520
Speaker 7: he's done with IU.

2400
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:11,320
Speaker 1: Dave Revson is my guest. He's on the Java House

2401
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:13,160
Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line, of course from the Big

2402
02:08:13,160 --> 02:08:16,440
Speaker 1: Ten Network, Dave in that capacity. And I know that

2403
02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:18,720
Speaker 1: you know Jerry DeNardo is not just your colleague at

2404
02:08:18,720 --> 02:08:20,840
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Network, but you have talked about the

2405
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:22,920
Speaker 1: fact that you know. I think I'm safe in saying

2406
02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:24,800
Speaker 1: the two of you have a great friendship as well.

2407
02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:29,000
Speaker 1: Right away from work. You know his time at Indiana,

2408
02:08:29,080 --> 02:08:31,320
Speaker 1: and clearly when you look at his coaching record, you

2409
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:35,000
Speaker 1: know LSU and then the different places that he's coached.

2410
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:38,120
Speaker 1: He's a good football coach. No question has he illuminated

2411
02:08:38,160 --> 02:08:41,680
Speaker 1: to you in any way. Just the remarkable investment that

2412
02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:44,720
Speaker 1: Indiana has made in their football program. Taking nothing away

2413
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:48,720
Speaker 1: from Churt Signetti, but the overall beyond just coaching aspect

2414
02:08:49,120 --> 02:08:53,520
Speaker 1: of all aspects of what this program needed infused that

2415
02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:54,600
Speaker 1: was not there before.

2416
02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:59,640
Speaker 7: Okay, so I might be breaking Jerry's confidence here. I

2417
02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 7: don't know that he's ever told this story publicly, but

2418
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:06,440
Speaker 7: I'm going to tell it right now that maybe one

2419
02:09:06,440 --> 02:09:09,880
Speaker 7: of the best wins in Jerry's career was going out

2420
02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:14,520
Speaker 7: to Oregon and winning. They beat the Ducks me neither

2421
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:17,160
Speaker 7: his first year or second year. And he has told

2422
02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:21,920
Speaker 7: me a story subsequent to that that all week he

2423
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:24,280
Speaker 7: was playing, he got these loud speakers. He went out

2424
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:26,720
Speaker 7: and rented them, and he got these loudspeakers, and he

2425
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:30,720
Speaker 7: had duck calls going over the loudspeakers, just for something

2426
02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 7: fun to do during the week, to fire up the players.

2427
02:09:34,120 --> 02:09:37,480
Speaker 7: And later, you know, kind of midweek, late week, one

2428
02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 7: of the athletic administrators, who will remain nameless. I don't

2429
02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 7: even know the name of the athletic administrator. So it's

2430
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:45,960
Speaker 7: good that he didn't tell me comes out and looks

2431
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:47,840
Speaker 7: at him and says, who's paying for the speakers?

2432
02:09:49,640 --> 02:09:54,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, in I own money, right.

2433
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:57,160
Speaker 7: I mean, he was just you know, flabbergaster, right, was

2434
02:09:57,160 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 7: something fun to do, and you know, he ha. I

2435
02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 7: think when he took over there, I think he was

2436
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:05,800
Speaker 7: maybe thirty players under the scholarship limit. You know, he

2437
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:07,919
Speaker 7: had a time if you look back, how many athletic

2438
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:11,960
Speaker 7: directors and the university presidents and different mission statements he

2439
02:10:12,080 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 7: had this time there, you know you had no chance.

2440
02:10:14,760 --> 02:10:17,720
Speaker 7: I mean you had no chance. There just was not

2441
02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:21,440
Speaker 7: the administrative support. And I think that's where I just

2442
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:24,879
Speaker 7: give so much credit to Pam Win and Scott Dolson,

2443
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 7: Like you know, we can it almost doesn't matter to

2444
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:29,760
Speaker 7: kind of go back and say what it was, but

2445
02:10:30,120 --> 02:10:32,560
Speaker 7: that is what it was, and those were the hurdles

2446
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 7: that faced all of these guys who you know, there

2447
02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:37,200
Speaker 7: were a lot of really good football coaches there. I

2448
02:10:37,240 --> 02:10:40,160
Speaker 7: would count Tom Allen among the really good football coaches,

2449
02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:43,200
Speaker 7: and I think they started to invest and started to understand,

2450
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:46,879
Speaker 7: you know, kind of what they needed to do. Scott's

2451
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:52,400
Speaker 7: leadership has been incredible on this front. But it's night

2452
02:10:52,520 --> 02:10:56,360
Speaker 7: and day and again that takes nothing away from Kurtzygnty.

2453
02:10:56,360 --> 02:11:00,680
Speaker 7: I think Kurtseygnetti is a generational football coach, turn out

2454
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:03,360
Speaker 7: to be one of the greatest coaches we've ever seen

2455
02:11:04,040 --> 02:11:06,920
Speaker 7: in the Big Ten. But you need the administrative support,

2456
02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:09,440
Speaker 7: and so I just give a ton of credit to

2457
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:12,840
Speaker 7: Ie you for understanding what they needed to do. I

2458
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:16,400
Speaker 7: think Scott Golson's an incredible ad. But again, it starts

2459
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 7: at the top. It starts with Pam Win and it

2460
02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 7: is night and day, you know, again curing these stories

2461
02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:25,800
Speaker 7: from Jerry. It's night and day from what he experienced there,

2462
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 7: and you cannot win without investing in it in this

2463
02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:29,920
Speaker 7: day and age.

2464
02:11:30,040 --> 02:11:32,600
Speaker 1: And Dave, I've talked about this this week, but I'm

2465
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:35,960
Speaker 1: curious your thought because you and I have talked about

2466
02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:38,080
Speaker 1: the fact that the first time that you are one

2467
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:40,760
Speaker 1: of the first times that you had on signetti, and

2468
02:11:40,880 --> 02:11:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, you said it was one of your your

2469
02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:44,560
Speaker 1: great moments. It was like you were back in Sherman,

2470
02:11:44,640 --> 02:11:46,280
Speaker 1: Texas when he said, you know, I think we can

2471
02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 1: be in the Big Ten championship game, and you said,

2472
02:11:47,960 --> 02:11:49,240
Speaker 1: you want to go on record and he said, I

2473
02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:51,080
Speaker 1: just did you know? I'm on record?

2474
02:11:51,440 --> 02:11:53,440
Speaker 7: But it was the worst follow up question after.

2475
02:11:54,520 --> 02:11:57,920
Speaker 1: Well, I've had my fair share doozies, right, but so,

2476
02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:01,880
Speaker 1: but here's the question. Then, when that took place, It's

2477
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:06,680
Speaker 1: like the movie The Sixth Sense or pulp fiction. Once

2478
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:09,600
Speaker 1: the movie's over, you look back and you go, ah,

2479
02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:13,520
Speaker 1: now it makes sense. Now I understand it. Was Kurt

2480
02:12:13,560 --> 02:12:18,280
Speaker 1: Signetti with that Bravada? Was that what he needed? Did

2481
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:21,440
Speaker 1: he need to come in there because he was walking

2482
02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:24,920
Speaker 1: into a situation like you're talking about, where it was

2483
02:12:25,040 --> 02:12:28,520
Speaker 1: just inherently expected that you couldn't win at Indiana and

2484
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:31,760
Speaker 1: he had to let everyone know the culture was different

2485
02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:33,040
Speaker 1: the second he arrived.

2486
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:36,520
Speaker 7: Well that is what he has said subsequent to all this.

2487
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:39,240
Speaker 7: Jake like when he talked like, I think he in

2488
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:41,560
Speaker 7: a weird sort of way. It's like a little embarrassed

2489
02:12:41,600 --> 02:12:45,800
Speaker 7: about the basketball game, right, like the clip that gets

2490
02:12:46,000 --> 02:12:47,960
Speaker 7: played back all the time about his thoughts.

2491
02:12:47,960 --> 02:12:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm produing I'll have.

2492
02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:54,080
Speaker 7: State of Michigan. But he feels like it just needed

2493
02:12:54,120 --> 02:12:57,000
Speaker 7: to be said. And I think what he said on

2494
02:12:57,240 --> 02:13:01,600
Speaker 7: our set same thing. He felt like it needed to

2495
02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:05,920
Speaker 7: be said someone. He needed to alert the masses that

2496
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:08,839
Speaker 7: it wasn't going to be kind of business as usual.

2497
02:13:09,360 --> 02:13:11,600
Speaker 7: And so I think at the time, I mean, I like,

2498
02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:13,920
Speaker 7: honestly and I we said this to him, Like he

2499
02:13:14,000 --> 02:13:15,560
Speaker 7: walked off the set and we all kind of looked

2500
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:17,720
Speaker 7: at each other and we're like, you know, should someone

2501
02:13:17,760 --> 02:13:21,120
Speaker 7: tell him like what he's getting into? And again, like

2502
02:13:21,160 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 7: I said, I have so much respect for for sharing

2503
02:13:23,040 --> 02:13:25,280
Speaker 7: and know the hurdles that he faced. And I don't

2504
02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:27,960
Speaker 7: think I understood at the time kind of how different

2505
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:31,640
Speaker 7: the commitment was going to be. And I just felt like, man, like,

2506
02:13:32,200 --> 02:13:34,680
Speaker 7: don't I don't see how you're going to get this done.

2507
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:37,160
Speaker 7: You know, it's going to be really hard to get

2508
02:13:37,160 --> 02:13:41,280
Speaker 7: to the level that you're talking about. So I think

2509
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:43,400
Speaker 7: at the time I kind of thought, man, I don't

2510
02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:46,480
Speaker 7: know about this guy. But in hindsight, now you understand

2511
02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:48,320
Speaker 7: kind of what he was trying to do. He was

2512
02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:50,000
Speaker 7: trying to wake everyone up. He was trying to tell

2513
02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:52,480
Speaker 7: him it's not business as usual and the things are

2514
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:54,360
Speaker 7: going to be different here and the only person who

2515
02:13:54,400 --> 02:13:59,120
Speaker 7: could communicate that message efficiently was him, And so that's

2516
02:13:59,160 --> 02:14:01,120
Speaker 7: what he did. And you know, he has an incredible

2517
02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:04,480
Speaker 7: belief in himself, an incredible belief in the system that

2518
02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:07,640
Speaker 7: he's put into place and has tested at various stops.

2519
02:14:07,840 --> 02:14:10,680
Speaker 7: And we've come to learn here over the last two

2520
02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:14,480
Speaker 7: years that it's a justifiable belief because the guy clearly

2521
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:17,760
Speaker 7: knows what he's doing. It's an unbelievable.

2522
02:14:16,920 --> 02:14:20,640
Speaker 1: Coaching job, Dave, for you personally, how much fun is it?

2523
02:14:20,800 --> 02:14:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, to be able to not just talk

2524
02:14:23,840 --> 02:14:26,240
Speaker 1: about two Big Ten teams in a national semi final

2525
02:14:26,320 --> 02:14:28,160
Speaker 1: and know that there will be a Big Ten team

2526
02:14:28,240 --> 02:14:32,280
Speaker 1: represented in the National Championship Game, but also to do

2527
02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:35,280
Speaker 1: it with kind of new blood. Nothing against Ohio State, Michigan,

2528
02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:38,560
Speaker 1: Penn State, They're fabulous schools and programs, but just to

2529
02:14:38,600 --> 02:14:42,200
Speaker 1: have the newer aspect of it and to be able

2530
02:14:42,240 --> 02:14:44,560
Speaker 1: to talk about the Big Ten and its profile, how

2531
02:14:44,600 --> 02:14:45,880
Speaker 1: much fun is it?

2532
02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:48,400
Speaker 7: It's been great, Jake. I think this is I mean,

2533
02:14:48,440 --> 02:14:51,920
Speaker 7: the Indiana story is the best story that we have

2534
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 7: covered in our time at the Big Ten Network, just

2535
02:14:54,720 --> 02:14:58,040
Speaker 7: because of the unexpected nature of it. I have not

2536
02:14:58,080 --> 02:15:00,440
Speaker 7: as many as you, but I have a ton of

2537
02:15:00,520 --> 02:15:04,440
Speaker 7: Indiana fans in my very close orbit in my life,

2538
02:15:04,520 --> 02:15:08,440
Speaker 7: and to see just the unrestrained joy that this has

2539
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:11,200
Speaker 7: brought to them, I think it is amazing. It's kind

2540
02:15:11,200 --> 02:15:15,080
Speaker 7: of what college athletics can be. And and so yeah,

2541
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:18,680
Speaker 7: this has been a tremendous story. And that whoever wins

2542
02:15:18,760 --> 02:15:22,120
Speaker 7: this game tonight will be the third different Big Ten

2543
02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:24,800
Speaker 7: team in as many years to represent the league in

2544
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:27,720
Speaker 7: the National Championship Game. I think that speaks to the

2545
02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:30,920
Speaker 7: depth of the conference and to your point again, it's

2546
02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:33,320
Speaker 7: It was wonderful two years ago when it was Michigan,

2547
02:15:33,320 --> 02:15:35,120
Speaker 7: it was great last year when it was Ohio State.

2548
02:15:35,680 --> 02:15:37,840
Speaker 7: But for it to be another Big Ten team and

2549
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:40,800
Speaker 7: someone different this year, I think speaks to volumes about

2550
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:43,800
Speaker 7: where the league is and where the commitment is administratively

2551
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:44,720
Speaker 7: throughout the conference.

2552
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Speaker 1: But by the way, in terms of that inner orbit

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02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:49,720
Speaker 1: of Indiana fans, you know, am I on the ASD

2554
02:15:50,120 --> 02:15:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm kind of on the outer band of the Milky Way?

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02:15:52,160 --> 02:15:52,640
Speaker 1: Is that fair?

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02:15:54,160 --> 02:15:56,720
Speaker 7: No? I think you're You're right in the You're the epicenter.

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02:15:57,320 --> 02:16:01,520
Speaker 7: I mean, just because of the way Irsi and I mean,

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Speaker 7: all the different things we talked about.

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Speaker 1: I'm the mercury of the Dave ReBs in orbit, right,

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02:16:08,680 --> 02:16:10,320
Speaker 1: That's what we're getting out here, if you know what

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02:16:10,360 --> 02:16:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm the son of the whole thing. Okay, lastly, Dave,

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02:16:13,600 --> 02:16:16,040
Speaker 1: you're looking for what tonight at the outside of the game.

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02:16:16,080 --> 02:16:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the obvious answer here is you know, hey,

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02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:19,680
Speaker 1: which quarterback is going to be able to get in

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02:16:19,800 --> 02:16:22,600
Speaker 1: rhythm or whatever else? But is there something that you

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02:16:22,640 --> 02:16:25,960
Speaker 1: have been told or to look for for our listeners

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02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:27,880
Speaker 1: that is going to tell them that perhaps this game

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02:16:27,920 --> 02:16:29,120
Speaker 1: is going to go one way or the other.

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Speaker 7: Well, to me, in what again, in watching the game

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02:16:32,920 --> 02:16:35,400
Speaker 7: back this week and kind of looking at how it

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02:16:35,440 --> 02:16:37,560
Speaker 7: was played, I think it comes down to a line

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02:16:37,600 --> 02:16:40,680
Speaker 7: of scrimmage. I just think Indiana was the far better

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02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:43,680
Speaker 7: line of scrimmage team in that game. And I'm just

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02:16:43,840 --> 02:16:47,800
Speaker 7: interested to see, particularly on the offensive line, how Oregon

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02:16:48,440 --> 02:16:51,600
Speaker 7: protects more and whether or not they can and they

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02:16:51,640 --> 02:16:53,400
Speaker 7: really weren't able to in the first game. And to me,

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02:16:53,879 --> 02:16:55,920
Speaker 7: that set up the tone. Indiana ran the ball better

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02:16:56,040 --> 02:16:59,600
Speaker 7: than Oregon did, they protected better, and I think that's

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02:16:59,640 --> 02:17:03,560
Speaker 7: why they won the game. The other thing is, and

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02:17:03,640 --> 02:17:06,040
Speaker 7: you know, I hate to say this because I know,

2581
02:17:06,200 --> 02:17:08,480
Speaker 7: you know, Indiana fense like I don't change us, but

2582
02:17:08,560 --> 02:17:11,199
Speaker 7: like Indiana does not make mistakes.

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02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:13,640
Speaker 1: I know, just it's incredible, right, Like.

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02:17:13,600 --> 02:17:15,560
Speaker 7: They don't penalties, they don't turn the ball over, they

2585
02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:17,680
Speaker 7: haven't lost the bumble since the first game of the year.

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02:17:17,879 --> 02:17:20,800
Speaker 7: I mean, all of these different things. We saw Oregon

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02:17:20,879 --> 02:17:23,920
Speaker 7: bouncing snaps back in their last in the in the

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02:17:23,959 --> 02:17:28,240
Speaker 7: Orange baw, I mean, you know, just doing uncharacteristic types

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02:17:28,600 --> 02:17:32,680
Speaker 7: of things that I you just doesn't do. So if

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02:17:32,720 --> 02:17:36,040
Speaker 7: I continues that trend of not making mistakes, no special

2591
02:17:36,120 --> 02:17:39,680
Speaker 7: team's gas, no turnovers, all of those different things, no penalties.

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02:17:40,480 --> 02:17:43,120
Speaker 7: I feel like they win the game. I just think

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02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:46,120
Speaker 7: that I think they would have to play an uncharacteristic

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02:17:46,240 --> 02:17:47,640
Speaker 7: game to lose.

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Speaker 1: Dave. I know you guys have all of it covered

2596
02:17:50,320 --> 02:17:52,160
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten Network. I know it's busy with

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02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:55,040
Speaker 1: two teams in the Peach Bowl National semi finals. So

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02:17:55,080 --> 02:17:58,000
Speaker 1: I very much appreciate the time, enjoy the game, enjoy

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02:17:58,040 --> 02:18:01,000
Speaker 1: the coverage, and we apps we'll be talking to you

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02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:02,520
Speaker 1: before Miami if Indiana's in there.

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Speaker 7: But I appreciate it all right, Jake, thanks man, great

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02:18:05,360 --> 02:18:05,920
Speaker 7: to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. Dave Revsen joining us from the Big

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02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:11,800
Speaker 1: Ten Network. JAMV is out on remote crossover, brought to

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02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:14,000
Speaker 1: you by our good friends that love heating and air.

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02:18:14,120 --> 02:18:15,760
Speaker 1: Just enough time to kind of squeeze him in and

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02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:18,120
Speaker 1: find out what John's got lined up and where we

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02:18:18,320 --> 02:18:21,240
Speaker 1: find him today, and I believe that involves he's wearing

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02:18:21,320 --> 02:18:23,320
Speaker 1: a cowboy hat. Perhaps, John, what's up?

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Speaker 7: No?

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02:18:24,360 --> 02:18:26,720
Speaker 8: I love to be squosing right in here, Jake.

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02:18:27,400 --> 02:18:30,240
Speaker 12: This country bar, which is awesome, man, I do I

2613
02:18:30,280 --> 02:18:35,600
Speaker 12: dig it, Jake, this is the place, because this place

2614
02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:36,959
Speaker 12: hasn't been open net.

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02:18:36,800 --> 02:18:41,760
Speaker 13: Long, but there's always lines certainly here now normally they

2616
02:18:41,760 --> 02:18:44,280
Speaker 13: don't open until five, but we're going to crank it

2617
02:18:44,320 --> 02:18:47,000
Speaker 13: open here at three and have one hell of a time.

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02:18:47,320 --> 02:18:48,320
Speaker 8: Jake, this is a place.

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02:18:48,360 --> 02:18:50,760
Speaker 12: I know that you don't have a background in country

2620
02:18:50,760 --> 02:18:53,280
Speaker 12: and western, but this may turn you into that.

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02:18:53,360 --> 02:18:57,039
Speaker 1: Man. I'm just might listen Yea Clayton, I ran into him.

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02:18:57,040 --> 02:18:58,280
Speaker 1: I think you were with me. We were at a

2623
02:18:58,320 --> 02:18:59,920
Speaker 1: Pacer game and I ran into him and he was saying, man,

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02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:02,760
Speaker 1: I really think we can get like a Nashville honky

2625
02:19:02,760 --> 02:19:05,400
Speaker 1: tonk vibe in downtown and it is. It's been great

2626
02:19:05,480 --> 02:19:08,000
Speaker 1: because I know you know JD Spawn that sits next

2627
02:19:08,040 --> 02:19:09,480
Speaker 1: to meet the game last week was like, Hey, I

2628
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:11,600
Speaker 1: were heading over to Clayton's bar after the game. So

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02:19:12,400 --> 02:19:14,879
Speaker 1: it's a rocking place for sure, and what better place

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02:19:14,959 --> 02:19:17,080
Speaker 1: to get things kicked off for Indiana Oregon tonight?

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02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:21,600
Speaker 12: Hey, quickly, what's the first country song you think of?

2632
02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:24,320
Speaker 12: When I ask you, what's the first country song you

2633
02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:26,480
Speaker 12: think of all time?

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02:19:26,640 --> 02:19:29,480
Speaker 1: I'll go, well, I mean Devil went down to Georgia,

2635
02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:31,520
Speaker 1: but Bootscoot and Booge for some reason just came to mind.

2636
02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:38,200
Speaker 1: But my all time favorite is Waylon Jennings Hank would

2637
02:19:38,240 --> 02:19:39,680
Speaker 1: have done it this way? Is that? Is that how

2638
02:19:39,680 --> 02:19:41,160
Speaker 1: it was? Is that the name of it?

2639
02:19:41,240 --> 02:19:46,400
Speaker 12: Looking Buck Texas, Milly and the boys love it.

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02:19:46,640 --> 02:19:48,960
Speaker 8: That is some good stuff, all right, John. Anything from

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02:19:48,959 --> 02:19:51,560
Speaker 8: the Urban Cowboys soundtrack, by the way rolls too.

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02:19:51,680 --> 02:19:53,760
Speaker 1: Also good, yep, also good. All right. We'll throw it

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02:19:53,800 --> 02:19:55,280
Speaker 1: out to you and we will let you carry us

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02:19:55,280 --> 02:19:58,080
Speaker 1: home for the rest of the day before Indiana and Oregon. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: I thank everybody for listening to Quaring Company.