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Speaker 1: So I gotta tell you yesterday was a weird day

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Speaker 1: and they involved Laura Lumer. I know what is happening

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Speaker 1: around here, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be

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Speaker 1: with you. If you ask me if I think Laura

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Speaker 1: Lumer is just nuts.

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Speaker 2: The answer is yes.

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Speaker 1: She has shown herself not to be somebody who is hinged,

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Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily rational. She's handcuffing herself to buildings.

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Speaker 1: Regarding Twitter, it seemed like performance aren't more than anything else.

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Speaker 2: Yet she continues to hang around.

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Speaker 1: If you want to talk about dogged Man, she's right

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Speaker 1: there with it for sure. And she's now put herself

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Speaker 1: in a place where, you know, a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: people who report from the Pentagon they didn't like Pete

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Speaker 1: hegsa's new rules, and so they're like, we're gonna turn

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Speaker 1: in our credentials and we're not.

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Speaker 2: Gonna report on the pedal.

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Speaker 1: And they were like baflely, they didn't care, didn't matter

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Speaker 1: to the Pentagon.

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Speaker 3: At all.

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Speaker 1: Well, this has opened up room, and now you've got

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Speaker 1: in the press briefing yesterday from the Pentagon, you had

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Speaker 1: Laura Lumer and Matt Gates.

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Speaker 2: I'm really not a fan of Matt Gates, you may.

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Speaker 3: Be, I am not.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he is not the Attorney General. Although I'm

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Speaker 1: disappointed in Pambondi, I am a lot of other members.

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Speaker 1: I'm very very happy with of the cabinet, not so

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Speaker 1: much Pambondi. But Laura Lumour's in there, and it's really

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Speaker 1: interesting because the question she asked is about Qatar, and

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Speaker 1: then it ties in to an Indiana congressman and Republican

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Speaker 1: by the name of Marlon Stutsman. I'm like, I know

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Speaker 1: Marlon Stutsman, so I had him on my morning show.

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Speaker 2: To kind of answer some questions here.

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Speaker 1: But this part was first, This question that was asked

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Speaker 1: good question, indeed.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Laura, thanks so much for having me here today.

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Speaker 4: Now that the President has hearted the process of designating

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Speaker 4: the Muslim Brotherhood as a horn Islamic terarist organization, will

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Speaker 4: the Department of War still proceed with selling fifteen fighter

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Speaker 4: jets to Qatar, and how will they be able to

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Speaker 4: train Katari pilots at their airbase and Idaho if Qatar

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Speaker 1: It's an unbelievably good question because Qatar is getting treated

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Speaker 1: with kid gloves by the administration, something I disagree with

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Speaker 1: in great measure.

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Speaker 2: But then it was Laura Lumer.

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Speaker 1: She reported that there were members of Congress and influencers

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Speaker 1: who spent their Thanksgiving in Qatar.

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Speaker 3: I said, that's odd.

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Speaker 1: One of those people she mentioned was Congressman Marlon Susman

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Speaker 1: of the Indiana third He joins us right now, Congressman, I.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you taking the time to be with us.

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Speaker 1: I do want to get into the districting conversation, as

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Speaker 1: that has past committee in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: But you're on record.

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Speaker 1: You're on record about concerns with guitar return in regards

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Speaker 1: to terrorism. I absolutely believe Kaitar has been a supporter

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Speaker 2: So let's start with how did you end up in

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Speaker 5: Well, good morning, Tony. Great to be with you. You

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Speaker 5: you know, the hostages at that time still had not

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Speaker 5: there were a lot of questions around Qatar being one

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Speaker 3: I've learned a lot as well.

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Speaker 5: Too, Tony, that you know, I understand in the context

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Speaker 5: they were very instrumental in negotiating the release of the

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Speaker 3: So you know, sometimes we can also agree.

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Speaker 1: We can also agree that Qatar has housed the Hamas

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Speaker 3: Is really engaged in the attack.

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Speaker 1: On Qatar, and that has led the White House, I think,

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Speaker 1: to an improper reaction on Qatar. Is it your belief

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Speaker 1: that Hamas supports engages, endorses the Muslim brotherhood.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're trying to find out.

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Speaker 5: This is you know, Brian Zinky, who's former Navy seal,

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're not going to endorse Qatar. I mean,

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Speaker 5: this is a country that is really playing both sides.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're talking to Iran, they're talking to the Taliban.

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Speaker 5: They talked to Qatar or to the to Hamas of course,

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Speaker 3: Earlier this year.

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Speaker 5: And one of the things that they told us, and

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Speaker 5: bring both sides together. That's why we have Hamas here,

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Speaker 5: And they kept reminding us, hey, you got to remember,

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Speaker 3: We also got hit by Israel. So we understand that.

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Speaker 5: And the other piece that we wanted to find out

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Speaker 3: Anti Semitic message?

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Speaker 5: And that's another really important piece that we don't want

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Speaker 1: Talking to Economs from Marlin Stutzman of the Third District

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Speaker 1: of Indiana, we know that Qatar has been a massive

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Speaker 1: supporter of universities, and I do believe we should be

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Speaker 1: the university shouldn't exist, Sir.

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Speaker 2: We also know that Katar has repeatedly.

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Speaker 1: Been engaged with the idea and they're certainly accused of

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Speaker 1: their support of the Muslim Brotherhood.

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Speaker 3: But Lumer's question certainly is a good one.

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Speaker 1: How do we feel about the training of Kataris in Idaho.

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Speaker 3: Or any place else on US hardware? Yeah, well they

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Speaker 5: You know, this is my first time there from what

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Speaker 5: I understand is they want a relationship with the United States.

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Speaker 3: And this is what's something surprised me.

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Speaker 5: I didn't realize, you know, kind of forgot about the

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Speaker 3: They put a blockade.

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Speaker 5: You know, the Qatar is a little thumb that sticks

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Speaker 5: Katar of terrorism. Well, they basically were cut off from

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Speaker 5: I've said about all these guys, is that you know,

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Speaker 3: Well, if you want to do.

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Speaker 5: That, then let's make sure there's no funding going to

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Speaker 5: it's sending the wrong message to our kids about Israel.

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Speaker 5: Let's make sure that you guys aren't funding the Muslim Brotherhood.

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Speaker 5: Let's deal with Hamas. Let's get Jamas out of there

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Speaker 3: You know, they're.

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Speaker 5: Helping with the situation within Gaza. Let's say, okay, we're

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Speaker 1: In a one word answer, sir, because I do want

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Speaker 1: to ask about redistricting. If Qatar is giving financial support

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Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood. Do you believe the United States should cut

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Speaker 1: off relationship cut off their relationship with Katar.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, I mean if they're supporting terrorism in

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Speaker 5: to them, and that's when we message to them when

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Speaker 1: Let me get to the follow up the trip itself.

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Speaker 1: Who paid for the trip?

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Speaker 5: So it's it's a United States based organization. It's called

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Speaker 5: the US Katari Business Council. There's a lot of business.

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Speaker 5: In fact, they were actually visiting Indiana. They you know,

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Speaker 5: They were there at home visiting with Governor Holcoms several

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Speaker 5: years ago. We They of course are buying a lot

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Speaker 5: of planes from Boeing in Qatar. The US are the

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Speaker 5: Katari airways that they have built out. It's impressive, I'll

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Speaker 5: tell you that, Tony. They have so much money there.

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Speaker 5: They're building out in International City in Doha. They're buying,

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Speaker 5: purchase from the United States. They are also investing. President

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Speaker 5: Trump when he visited there, got an investment close to

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Speaker 5: is what is important, is that they have to choose.

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Speaker 5: Are they going to be friends with the United States

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Speaker 5: or somebody else?

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Speaker 1: Sorry about that, just a little interference from the studio.

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Speaker 1: My apologies talking to Congressman Marlin Stutsman. Let me while

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Speaker 1: I have this moment, and I apologize for that.

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Speaker 3: Just really quick.

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Speaker 1: On redistricting, why I've got sixty seconds.

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Speaker 2: It passes committee.

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Speaker 3: You've seen the map.

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Speaker 2: Do you like the map?

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Speaker 1: And do you favor with a full on vote to

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Speaker 1: redistrict the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 5: I like the map. I like the fact that this

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Speaker 5: is a you know, we're fighting the left in California,

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Speaker 5: in Illinois, in New York. Look, Tony, these guys have

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Speaker 5: been the Democrats have been playing politics for years, and

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Speaker 5: we've got to understand that we need equal representation in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 5: We're out here fighting socialist Democrats. I mean, look at

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Speaker 5: mom Donnie in New York and his campaign that he

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Speaker 5: just won. I mean, these guys are full on socialists.

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Speaker 5: And we've got to realize in Indiana that what we

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Speaker 5: affects Indiana, it affects the country right now because we're

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Speaker 5: And so I would just you know, ask every state

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Speaker 5: this is not just about precedence. This is not just

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Speaker 5: President Trump took a bullet for us. We need to

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Speaker 5: understand what he has been through because the left tried

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Speaker 5: you know Charlie Kirk was assassinated. The left is unhinged

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Speaker 5: and the only way we win is sticking together.

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Speaker 3: This is a team effort. This is Republicans sticking together.

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Speaker 3: Republicans stick together, we win.

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Speaker 5: And we always talk about how Democrats they always stick

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Speaker 5: together and that's why they win. Republicans we need to

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Speaker 5: do the same thing. This is an important time for

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Speaker 1: Congressman Marlon Stutsman of the Indiana third District, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you taking the time to be with us. More to

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Speaker 1: get to I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today