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Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Mark Decton, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Caleb, you're warming my old wrestlering heart right now.

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Speaker 2: You might lose your spots.

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Speaker 3: I've already accepted. I've already updated the LinkedIn. I'm assuming

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Speaker 3: this job is no longer mine. Caleb has taken over

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Speaker 3: the last three shows. I'm assuming I'm out of a

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Speaker 3: job after today.

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Speaker 2: We got a text from Kenny during the break, who

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Speaker 2: says that very surprised to see that Chiefs are minus

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Speaker 2: nine and a half over the Colts on covers dot Com.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of covers dot com.

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Speaker 3: No, I was checking like the actual like betting apps.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't see this anywhere where you can

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Speaker 3: place it, you know, two weeks out and everything, because

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Speaker 3: I would have jumped all over the Colts in the

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Speaker 3: nine and a half if that was the case. But apparently, yeah,

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Speaker 3: covers dot com. Can you bet on there?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but.

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Speaker 3: That is a surprising number for me. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how you feel about that, but nine and a half

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Speaker 3: points considering this Colts team is eight and two and

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Speaker 3: I know the Chiefs are the Chiefs, but nine and

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Speaker 3: a half points that seems like a tall, tall number.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how it all comes out with the majority

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Speaker 2: of the sports books by the time we get to

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Speaker 2: game week. The only thing I could think that goes

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Speaker 2: into that right now is I think if you think

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Speaker 2: that the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Atlanta Falcons were putting

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Speaker 2: pressure on Daniel Jones, the Chiefs have a completely different

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Speaker 2: level of defensive line right now, anchored by Chris Jones,

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Speaker 2: who also does a pretty good job of stop in

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Speaker 2: the run, and Kansas City right now with Rashid Ross returning,

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Speaker 2: they look like the offensive juggernaut that they have been

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Speaker 2: in the past. So I think that's probably a little high.

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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I would have expected it

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Speaker 3: Nine and a half is shockingly high.

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Speaker 2: But if that's true, go find it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you could get it, jump on it, because yeah,

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Speaker 3: nine and a half, that's reserve for like the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: against the Jets or something like that. The Chiefs Colts.

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Speaker 3: I would not expect to open up at nine and

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Speaker 3: a half when the actual week twelve games come out

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Speaker 3: because that is a big number. I know Steve Spagnol

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Speaker 3: is a hell of a DC. He's going to ski

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Speaker 3: stuff up to try to get that offensive line of

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Speaker 3: the Colts on more shaky ground and try to disrupt

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Speaker 3: what Daniel Jones is doing. But nine and a half

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Speaker 3: is a big number. That that's like blow out numbers

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Speaker 5: What do you guys think by the time we get

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Speaker 5: to this time next week, what do you think that

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Speaker 3: I'm with Jeff, I think it'd be more like four

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Speaker 3: and a half. I think you usually get three when

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Speaker 3: you're at home anyway, So I would say the Colts

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs get a slight uptick just because they're starting

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Speaker 3: a half maybe five and a half, But nine and

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Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the things I look at the at

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Speaker 2: the NFL right now. I don't know that Kansas City

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Speaker 2: may be emerging again. I still they have a stud

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Speaker 2: running back. I mean, Kareem Hunt is great in short yardage.

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Speaker 2: Pacheco never seems to be available for more than two

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Speaker 2: weeks in a row, three weeks in a row, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know what their running game is, but again,

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Speaker 2: you get Rashi Rice, some of those other receivers and

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Speaker 2: certainly Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes is gonna feel pretty good

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Speaker 2: about that stuff. Their defense is playing really well. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know that there is a dominant NFL team

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts because New England they're new on the scene

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Speaker 2: and Drake May is one of the favorites for MVP,

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Speaker 2: and I get it, and Mike Vrabel can coach. But

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Speaker 2: I don't think that you know you're getting ready for

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're just like shivering, like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: how are we going to do this? You take a

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Speaker 2: look at the Denver Bronc because I've told you before,

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Speaker 2: I think their offense is fraudulent. Their defense might be

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Speaker 2: have problems in the playoffs. The Chargers they kind of

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Speaker 2: they just there. There's a lot of variance in their performance.

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Speaker 3: I always like the Chargers, but they always do things

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Speaker 3: at the end of the season where you're like, what happened?

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Speaker 3: You had such a big lead. What happened there? They

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh is a hell of a coach. He's very entertaining.

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Speaker 3: He's getting the best out of Justin Herbert. But I

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Speaker 3: still don't trust the Chargers. I've been scorned before, so

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I fully trust them. But yes,

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Speaker 3: var as the ale AFC in general is concerned, there

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Speaker 3: are no dominant teams. The Bills randomly lost to the

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Speaker 3: I know so was that. I don't know what happened there,

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Speaker 3: so it's very odd. The Ravens are starting to find themselves.

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Speaker 3: Their defense is not good. The Steelers are taking steps back.

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Speaker 3: It's wide open the AFC. I said that earlier, that

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Speaker 3: Nobody would have had that at the start of the season.

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Speaker 3: But that just tells you how wide open the AFC is.

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Speaker 3: If we're going all encompassing or including the NFC, I

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Speaker 3: think the Seahawks might be the best balance them on.

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Speaker 3: Trams are coming on strong as well, but I would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in Detroit, I don't know what to take of

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Speaker 2: that win they had over the Washington Commanders. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Washington's really struggling right now. Marcus Mariotto is playing quarterback

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Commanders are done. The Lions are once again

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Speaker 3: using their potent offense. Their defense is still nothing to

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Speaker 3: Vienna North for a reason. Everyone else is kind of

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Speaker 3: planning trying to play catch up. But yeah, I trust

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Speaker 5: Don't you guys think that this conversation we're having is

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Speaker 5: why what made last week really important? That the Colts. Yes,

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Speaker 5: I think that's the part of the reason that they

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Speaker 5: made the move. It's there. There's not someone you're scared

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Speaker 5: of in your conference, maybe the Chiefs, but if you

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Speaker 5: can get them at home, you like your chances. I

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Speaker 5: just think it all goes back to it, Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 5: and I just think it goes back to last week

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Speaker 5: it is wide open and you didn't see anyone in

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Speaker 3: No, I agree with that, And I also think like

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Speaker 3: obviously the expectations and projections of what we had the

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm also kind of curious, Like we're at

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Speaker 3: the best teams in the AFC. Like expectation wise, like

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Speaker 3: what is your expectations for the team going forward? Like

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Speaker 3: it could be anything. Is it just winning the AFC

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Speaker 3: South as it beating at Jacksonville? Is that the big

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Speaker 3: marker for you, like getting the AFC Championship game? What

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Speaker 3: are expectations? I am curious to see because I know

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Speaker 3: mine have obviously adjusts. I'm sure everyone's have, but you know, three, pine, seven, nine, ten, seventy.

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Speaker 3: Hit us up on the text line or give us

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Speaker 3: a phone call, let us know expectations. At this point,

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Speaker 3: what would you be disappointed about, like as a Colts fan,

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Speaker 3: like if they don't get to this this thing. In

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Speaker 3: my mind, it'll be a disappointing season or there'll be

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Speaker 2: I think they need to have at least a playoff win.

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Speaker 2: The way things are, they're sitting there at eight and

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Speaker 3: So I think my expectation where I will be let

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Speaker 3: AFC divisional round, whether that's a wild card win and

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Speaker 3: you're in there. If you don't get at least there,

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Speaker 3: I think I will be let down. Given the eight

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Speaker 3: to two records, so a divisional round appearance not necessarily

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Speaker 3: a win, but if it's around the appearance, I think

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Speaker 3: is where my expectations are.

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Speaker 2: If they go twelve and five and thirteen at four

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Speaker 5: Going to be boned. That's also fair too, that's all.

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Speaker 3: I also think when we get the divisional round, I

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Speaker 3: feel like the usual suspects in the AFC are going

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Speaker 3: to be there, and so you're going to step up

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Speaker 3: the Bills. I think the Ravens are going to make it.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs are going to do Chiefs things. So when

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Speaker 3: you start getting those heavy hitters in the playoffs, that's

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Speaker 3: Shane Stikeen and crew, and I'm curious to see how

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Speaker 3: they stack up. So my expectation at this point is

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Speaker 3: Division round again. Whether it's a win or loss, you

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Speaker 5: I think for me it's winning the division right now, Eddie,

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Speaker 5: and you're right, Mark just kind of reassessed once a

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Speaker 5: better way. You cannot.

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Speaker 3: You cannot blow this division.

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Speaker 5: You can't.

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Speaker 2: Somebody just sent us the line on cbssports dot com

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Speaker 2: their sports line Colts are eight and a half point

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Speaker 2: underdogs to the Chiefs on that time site. Right now, I.

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Speaker 5: Might go there right now. I'm not a betting man, but.

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Speaker 2: That was Todd that sent that into us.

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Speaker 5: I might have to go do that.

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Speaker 3: Bob says, A winning a home playoff game is my

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Bob.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the name here, but he's chiming in

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Speaker 3: on text. Line says, my expectation is to win the

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Speaker 3: AFC South The ultimate disappointment would be missing the playoffs altogether.

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Speaker 2: And then it would be huge if they missed the

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Speaker 2: playoffs at this point well together, that would be that.

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Speaker 3: Would be a monumental, monumental fault. Yeah, that would be

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Speaker 3: a huge disappointment because at eight and two, even if

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Speaker 3: you go four and four of the rest of the way,

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Speaker 3: that's still twelve wins. You shouldn't be sniffing anything close

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Speaker 3: to missing the division. Either that or someone the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: are catching an ultimate heater all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 3: Texans are finally putting it on or something. Gary and

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Speaker 3: Noblesville says, the next five weeks will tell us if

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Speaker 3: we're going to what we're gonna do in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And again, Anthony who because he's.

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Speaker 2: Still Why is Anthony getting astray out?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is the story is what it is. He's

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Speaker 2: not gonna be a quarterback for the I.

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Speaker 3: Haven't thought about Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 2: I hope it's season.

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Speaker 3: Mattsy says, super Bowl or bust. Well, yeah, obviously that

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Speaker 2: That doesn't help anybody, and I don't think it does

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Speaker 2: Well, the question, and then the question starts to become

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Speaker 5: I don't. I always hate it when people bashed on Kirk.

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Speaker 2: But Kirk Cousins is never the quarterback that's going to

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Speaker 5: I think he's good enough to get a bunch of wins.

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Speaker 2: But then you go back to are we gonna win?

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Speaker 3: He's a guy that you could win with, but not

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Speaker 2: So here's what it come interests to. Here's the bottom

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Speaker 3: The greatest playoff games of all time. Yeah, even if

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Speaker 2: That stadium is. It's worse getting out. It's off, it's

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Speaker 3: This is a chore.

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Speaker 2: If you go to a football game at Gillette. Once

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Speaker 3: It's like a mall.

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Speaker 2: It's a mall, it's a movie theater, it's everything. Once

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Speaker 2: you're on site, it's fine, but it's going to take you.

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Speaker 2: If you live in Boston, first of all, it's going

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Speaker 2: Get out. It's gonna take three hours to get back home.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I love about Indianapolis. Game starts

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Speaker 2: I get to the seat in plenty of time for kickoff,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you might as a well like be living in Providence,

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Speaker 2: No, and paying season ticket holder makes a good point,

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Speaker 2: In a moment here, he says, seems kind of funny

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Speaker 3: That's exciting. It starts right there, and it starts now.

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Speaker 3: They can apply to a lot of things. Sam from

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Speaker 3: Newcastle says is also Jones' first year in the offense.

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Speaker 3: He can potentially get better the longer he's in it.

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Speaker 3: I agree. I think he and Shane are meshing while

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Speaker 3: they seem to be football robots. So you know, when

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Speaker 3: you can come you can do the thing where you

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Speaker 3: put the phones together and you have the AI talk

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Speaker 3: to each other. That's kind of what Shane Steichen and

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones are just AI football robots.

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Speaker 2: Who has time to put two phones together and have

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Speaker 2: a I talked to me?

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Speaker 3: Oh you haven't been on Instagram room TikTok, my friend.

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Speaker 3: You got to check that out. Whether the robots are talking, no,

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Speaker 3: I've seen where humans are talking. I've never seen the

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Speaker 3: robots talking. That's fascinating where they realize like are you AI?

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Speaker 3: Yes I am AI? Are you AI yes? I am

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Speaker 3: and they're just talking. They eight afterwards or I don't know,

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Speaker 3: crossing their circuits or something. But no, Shane and Shane

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Speaker 3: and Daniel have found there. They found their football wives.

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Speaker 3: I guess you could say they are attached at the

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Speaker 3: hip at the moment. They're finding the best out of

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Speaker 3: each other. So can I keep going? We saw the

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Speaker 3: you know a little bit of slip ups last couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks from Daniel Jones, Shanstiken doesn't seem overly concerned.

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Speaker 3: We can dive into that as well a little bit

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Speaker 3: later on, but looks like they're just going to do

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Speaker 3: a self scout at the bye week, which is the

463
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Speaker 3: right thing to do. Him and the coaching staff getting

464
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Speaker 3: the labs see what's going wrong last two weeks with

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Speaker 3: the offensive line and Daniel Jones, and try to right

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Speaker 3: the ship as they get ready for the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: which again, there's no way that line is nine and

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Speaker 3: a half. No, no way, there's zero chance.

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Speaker 2: Eight and a half. On on CBO Sports, you can't

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Speaker 2: bet on Stebiet.

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Speaker 3: I need places that you can actually bet.

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Speaker 2: You can. You could probably bet anywhere. I would guess.

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Speaker 3: Someone said the Chiefs and Broncos this week. Is that

474
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs are four and a half point favorites against

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Speaker 3: the Broncos, And I'm like, and they would be nine

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Speaker 3: and a half point favorites against the chief the Colts.

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Speaker 2: That can't be Well, here's the thing with the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: The reason, and I'll tell you this from a betting perspective,

479
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Speaker 2: The Broncos all season long, You're never gonna see big

480
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Speaker 2: lines one way or the other because nobody knows what

481
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Speaker 2: their offense is going to do. But that defense is nasty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll keep it close.

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Speaker 2: That defense is nasty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, can Bonick show up before the fourth quarter? That'd

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Speaker 3: be also nice.

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Speaker 2: That would be.

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Speaker 3: Nice, especially for my fantasy team because they're time. Should

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Speaker 3: I bench you? What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: See?

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Speaker 2: Three point seven gets it. This is my point, He says.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you're comparing Josh Allen with Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: is crazy. The Bills have gotten to the precipice of

494
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Speaker 2: the AFC Championship twice because of amazing games by Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: He's missing my point. The point is I love Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: He happens to be my favorite quarterback in the NFL

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Speaker 2: right now. I love watching him play. I'm angry every

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Speaker 2: day that one or two of my teams didn't take

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Speaker 2: a chance on Josh Allen when they had the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: My point is, until you can determine that you are

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Speaker 2: capable of beating Patrick Mahomes in the postseason, everybody's playing

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Speaker 2: for second place until you can get over that hump.

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Speaker 2: And right now he has not been able to take

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Speaker 2: the Bills to the Promised Land.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's only three quarterbacks that have done that.

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Speaker 5: It's Brady Burrow and Jalen Hurts. Those are the only

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Speaker 5: teams to beat Mahomes in the postseason. I mean, that's

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Speaker 5: crazy to think about.

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Speaker 2: He's in the postseason every single year.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: He's made the Super Bowl so many times, He's won

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Speaker 5: it three times already. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Pat from Russia, Ohio says, my buddy's father in law says,

514
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Speaker 3: Mahomes is washed and the Chiefs are done. He would

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Speaker 3: talk some sense in them. Boy, if that's washed, what

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is doing, I'll take that version every single

517
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Speaker 3: day and twice on Sunday. He's still very good. He's

518
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Speaker 3: never beaten the Colts. That's also the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah grows. Yeah. He also points out that if if

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Speaker 2: you're definition of a good quarterback, no, I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: a great quarterback. I'm talking about somebody. The king is

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. The only conversation that exists in the AFC

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Speaker 2: is who is going to continuously give you a chance

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Speaker 2: to beat Patrick in a postseason game?

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Speaker 5: Uh? Huh, right, that's that's that's what it all comes

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Speaker 5: And my point is, he says, I if your definition

527
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Speaker 5: of that quarterback is someone better than Josh Allen to

528
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Speaker 5: hopefully beat Kansas City, you will be disappointed forever.

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Speaker 2: And I said, that's my point exactly. That's exactly my

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Speaker 2: point because right now, until proven otherwise, everybody else in

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Speaker 2: the AFC is playing for second place.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's crazy to think about that because they are.

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Speaker 5: The Chiefs have looked like pretty pretty uh the first

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Speaker 5: half of the season. They look pedestrian, They've looked they've

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Speaker 5: looked pretty vulnerable, And I just think the regular season

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Speaker 5: is measured differently for them than it is every other

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Speaker 5: team in this league. I mean, they they showed us

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Speaker 5: that last year, even just winning all those close games

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Speaker 5: and not looking great in them. I think the year

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Speaker 5: before that, they had a slow start and still wound

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Speaker 5: up winning winning the championship. So their regular season has

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Speaker 5: just judged way differently than everybody else's.

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Speaker 2: And as a Josh Allen fan, I was really disappointed

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Speaker 2: in his performance against the Miami Dollphs as best. It

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Speaker 2: was very weird, was and I'm sure that's an outlier

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Speaker 2: and he'll bounce back I wouldn't be shocked to be

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Speaker 2: throws for like three hundred and eighty yards and five

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Speaker 2: touchdowns in one of the next two games.

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Speaker 3: It was one of those weird Sundays in the NFL

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Speaker 3: where just things happen where like that that seems odd,

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Speaker 3: like the Saints beating the Panthers, and yeah, the Bills

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Speaker 3: looking terrible against the Dolphins. So it was a weird Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Before we get the break to. Part of the problem

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Speaker 2: with Kansas City is also Andy Reid. A lot of

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Speaker 2: times in the postseason, you're playing a team for the

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Speaker 2: second time that year. You don't want to be playing

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Speaker 2: it's a good point, second time in a year.

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Speaker 3: No, let's let's reset at the by. Let's get ready

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Speaker 3: for Kansas City. And if that line is truly nine

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Speaker 3: and a half, boy, I can't wait to spend some money.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk Colts. Were Jake Arthur coming up next. Keep

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Speaker 2: those texts coming. I appreciate him at two three nine

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Speaker 2: ten seventy on the fan text line more in a

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Speaker 2: moment here on ninety three five and one seven five

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Speaker 2: fan the Indianapolis Colts. They are off this week, they

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Speaker 2: have the bye week. They get there with an eight

567
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Speaker 2: and two record, tied for the best record in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League. They come off an overtime win in Berlin,

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Speaker 2: a crazy day for Jonathan Taylor, lots to talk about,

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Speaker 2: a lot of head and here to tell us more

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Speaker 2: about it. Jake Arthur from Locked on Colts the Podcast

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Speaker 2: joins us here on the fan morning show on the

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Speaker 2: Payless Lookers Hotline. Good morning, Jake Arthur. What's the last

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Speaker 2: music documentary you watched?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Man, I don't know if I've ever specifically watched the

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Speaker 7: music documentary, but I mean, I know I watched.

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Speaker 4: I watched that Queen movie, the Freddie Mercury.

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Speaker 2: Movie, Bohemian Raps, cart.

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Speaker 7: Rock City About Kiss was amazing. But that's that's a

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Speaker 7: blast from the past there.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're interested at all, one of the best

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Speaker 2: I've ever seen was on the Eagles. Check that one out.

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Speaker 2: That's a good okay, But anyway, you were here to

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Speaker 2: talk football right now. The Colts make it to the

586
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Speaker 2: bye week with an eight and two record. In your

587
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Speaker 2: wildest dreams back on August fifteenth, if I'd have said, Jake,

588
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Speaker 2: don't worry, the calls are going to turn to Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 2: They're going to be eight and two at the break,

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Speaker 2: and they're going to have the best plus minus of

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Speaker 2: anybody in the NFL. You would have told me.

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Speaker 7: What, No, I would have thought that would be extremely unlikely.

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Speaker 7: I thought the floor for this team was about seven

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Speaker 7: and ten with a ceiling of ten and seven.

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Speaker 4: So they're about to beat that.

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Speaker 7: The strength of schedule is, you know, generous. I think

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Speaker 7: they had one of the top ten quote unquote easiest schedules.

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Speaker 7: But you know, seeing the Rams and Broncos and forty

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Speaker 7: nine Ers and Seahawks and Chargers and some of those

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Speaker 7: teams on there, I figured, you know, at this point

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Speaker 7: for them to be eight and two is pretty wild.

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Speaker 7: But Jones, I mean, has also kind of exceeded even

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Speaker 7: the most optimistic of our expectations.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 7: Now obviously last couple of weeks have been pretty bumpy,

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Speaker 7: but I was impressed with his ability to bounce back

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Speaker 7: and make like the absolute clutch throws that needed to

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Speaker 7: be made late in that game, because you know, him

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Speaker 7: kind of just turning into a pumpkin and just turning

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Speaker 7: inside of himself, kind of like the Steelers game.

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Speaker 4: If that would have happened last week, they I don't know, that.

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Speaker 7: They win without those couple clutch throws that he made

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Speaker 7: down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: Jake Arthur of Lockdown Colts joining us on the Payless

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Speaker 3: Leaguers Hotline. Jake, we talked about it in the last

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Speaker 3: segment of the show, just kind of expectations going forward

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Speaker 3: for the team there eight and two now at the buy.

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Speaker 3: No one had that projected ahead of the season, so

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Speaker 3: we're trying to see, like fan wise, what are expectations

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Speaker 3: going forward, Like what level will they have to reach

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Speaker 3: for you not to be disappointed? I said, a divisional

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Speaker 3: round appearance at this point not necessarily a when, but

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Speaker 3: getting the division round of the playoffs is where mine is.

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Speaker 3: What would you say yours is?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, because the playoffs feel like a four round

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Speaker 7: conclusion at this point, like they would have to have

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Speaker 7: an epic meltdown and then so to go into Wild

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Speaker 7: Part weekend and lose, that would be a disappointment. Now, again,

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Speaker 7: they exceeded expectations by essentially becoming a playoff team already,

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Speaker 7: but that was.

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Speaker 4: The preseason expectations.

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Speaker 7: For me, I'm a guy where expectations they need to

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Speaker 7: be renewed every couple weeks, you know, like, what have

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Speaker 7: you done for me lately, and this team has shown

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Speaker 7: that they should be, you know, one of the top

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Speaker 7: five teams in the league right now, so a first

637
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Speaker 7: round exit would feel inexcusable at this point. I mean,

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Speaker 7: luckily for them, I mean there's still a top to

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Speaker 7: AFC standing, so they could control their own destiny. They

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Speaker 7: could get that first round by and automatically get into.

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Speaker 4: The divisional round.

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Speaker 7: They could get home field advantage, like, there's a lot

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Speaker 7: they can do. You know, you beat Kansas City, You've

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Speaker 7: got four division games left like that. That kind of

645
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Speaker 7: stuff really sorts out tie breakers when you get to

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Speaker 7: the nitty gritty And of course they're tied with New

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Speaker 7: England and Denver for that top record atop the AFC,

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Speaker 7: so there is a lot they could do to really

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Speaker 7: kind of grab a stranglehold on the playoff.

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Speaker 4: The ANFC playoff road going through Lucas Oil.

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Speaker 2: Jake Garthur Lockdown Colts joining us here on the Fan

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Speaker 2: Morning Show. How concerned should we be with pass protection

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Speaker 2: and the ability to hang on to the football in

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Speaker 2: the pocket by Daniel Jones right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely concerning, but it's all

656
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Speaker 7: correctable as well. You know, I think now two weeks

657
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Speaker 7: in a row, we've seen defenses are being super aggressive

658
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 7: and bringing pressure, and oftentimes they're bringing more pressure than

659
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Speaker 7: there are blockers.

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Speaker 4: So Shane Stiken two.

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Speaker 7: Weeks in a row now has seen and admitted there's

662
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Speaker 7: more he could do to put them in a better position.

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Speaker 7: And whether they like it or not, I think they're

664
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Speaker 7: going to have to go into heavier sets, more even

665
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Speaker 7: more twelve and thirteen personnel, but keeping from those tight

666
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 7: ends to block rather than go out on routes. But

667
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Speaker 7: that's just going to have to be what they do.

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Speaker 7: Because the pressure that was getting to Jones early in

669
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Speaker 7: the season, I think they'll there were extra rushers coming,

670
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Speaker 7: but the offensive line and Jones were responding to it

671
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Speaker 7: better than they are now.

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Speaker 4: So I just think that.

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Speaker 7: They're going to have to kind of suck it up

674
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Speaker 7: and until they kind of prove to be able to

675
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Speaker 7: pass those tests again, they're just gonna have to.

676
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Speaker 4: Kind of use the heavy personnel to counter that.

677
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Speaker 7: I mean, they want to run out of that anyways also,

678
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Speaker 7: but I do think that's concerning. And then as far

679
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Speaker 7: as Jones and his ball security goes, that's another thing.

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00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 7: There's two weeks to take now where defenders know, if

681
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Speaker 7: you get in the neighborhood at Jones, rather than go

682
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Speaker 7: for the sack, you go and swap for that ball

683
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Speaker 7: because he's holding it low and with one hand, So

684
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Speaker 7: that's very correctable for him. If he just tucks the ball,

685
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Speaker 7: it is you're said than done, because I mean it's

686
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Speaker 7: kind of the way you carry the ball when you're

687
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 7: escaping pressure is just kind of an instinct thing, like

688
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 7: it's just how you escape. You're not really thinking about

689
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Speaker 7: the ball security of it. All those things are correctable,

690
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Speaker 7: but they're huge concerns as well.

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Speaker 4: Like seven turnovers from Jones.

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Speaker 7: In the last two weeks is absolutely wild because he'd

693
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Speaker 7: only turned the ball over in like, what two three

694
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Speaker 7: weeks leading into the whole thing these last two weeks.

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Speaker 4: So it's concerning.

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Speaker 7: But the bye week came at the best time because

697
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Speaker 7: this is the worst we've seen them look all season.

698
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Speaker 7: Even the loss to the Rams, they didn't look like this.

699
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Speaker 7: So lots of reflecting and self scouting needs to go

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Speaker 7: on here in this bye week.

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Speaker 3: Jake Garthur of Lockdown colts on the Payloss Liquers Hotline,

702
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Speaker 3: we just talked touch a little bit on it between

703
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Speaker 3: the offensive line and Daniel Jones, so they're at the

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Speaker 3: bye Jake. The one thing that change Stikeen and the

705
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Speaker 3: coaching crew need to get evaluated the most and trying

706
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Speaker 3: to get fixed. If you only pick one thing that

707
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Speaker 3: they work on, whether it's the offense of line, DJ's

708
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Speaker 3: ball security or is it something else, what would you

709
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: chuck up as that needs to be top of the leaderboard.

710
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Speaker 3: We need to get that fixed heading into the Chiefs game.

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Speaker 7: I would say the protection because Jones ball security isn't

712
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Speaker 7: as big of a deal if he doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Have extra rushers coming at him, you know.

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Speaker 7: So if they can figure out the pass protection stuff,

715
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Speaker 7: it doesn't like it. It's looked pretty rough from the

716
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Speaker 7: pass protection standpoint. But again, I think even all of

717
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 7: us can see when there's pressure coming. I don't think

718
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Speaker 7: there's some big secret thing defenses are doing to them,

719
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Speaker 7: like they're showing pressure and then they're bringing it.

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Speaker 4: So they're just going to have.

721
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Speaker 7: To have extra blockers in there, even guys like you know,

722
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Speaker 7: Tyler Warren maybe chipping more often. Jonathan Taylor's probably gonna

723
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Speaker 7: step it up a little bit in pass protection as well.

724
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Speaker 7: He was lights out early in the year, but he's

725
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Speaker 7: kind of had a couple of gas in pass protection.

726
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Speaker 7: He's last couple of weeks too, But Moley, Cox and

727
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 7: Drew will treat that those guys are going to kind of.

728
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Speaker 4: Have to be firmly playing it on the line to

729
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Speaker 4: help out.

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Speaker 7: With pass protection, because we've seen what it looks like

731
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Speaker 7: like with a clean pocket, Like the offense is unbelievable

732
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Speaker 7: and was on a historic pace and even Sunday it

733
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Speaker 7: went over five hundred yards. So you take care of

734
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Speaker 7: the pass protection, that in turn kind of cleans up

735
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Speaker 7: Joanes issues as well, because even the interceptions, it's like

736
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Speaker 7: when he's pressing too hard and trying to make a

737
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 7: play that maybe isn't necessarily there, and then he's making

738
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Speaker 7: a bad throw into heavy coverage. So I think you

739
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Speaker 7: take care of all those things. Because the Colts' biggest

740
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Speaker 7: issues this year on the offensive side of the ball.

741
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Speaker 7: They look unbeatable if they're not turning the ball over.

742
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Speaker 7: So you say, you clean up the pass protection a

743
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Speaker 7: little bit, and I think everything else kind of falls

744
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Speaker 7: in place.

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Speaker 2: Jake, how healthy should the Colts be coming out of

746
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: the buy? What are we looking at.

747
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Speaker 4: It? Should it should be looking better.

748
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Speaker 7: I mean, you hope to get Taekwon, Lewis and Sampson

749
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Speaker 7: be come back, because right now they're having to rely

750
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Speaker 7: on Durrell and Chammy and JT. Twomloo as their next rushers,

751
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Speaker 7: and that's not exactly what they would plan to have

752
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 7: in place.

753
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Speaker 4: To get the couple veterans back.

754
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Speaker 7: Charvarious Ward, you know, should be back when they returned

755
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Speaker 7: from the buy here against Kansas City. That should look

756
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 7: really really interesting when you have Ward and soft Gardner together. Obviously,

757
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 7: the forest Buckner is a big hit no matter what

758
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Speaker 7: way you look at it.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully he is able to get.

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Speaker 7: Back by week fifteen when he'll first be eligible out

761
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Speaker 7: there in Seattle.

762
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Speaker 4: But generally they are pretty healthy.

763
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Speaker 7: The guys that they do have out with the exception

764
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Speaker 7: of Buckner, I think should all be trending upward and

765
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 7: they should be getting you know, a lot, a lot

766
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Speaker 7: more complete of a unit, especially on the defensive side.

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00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 7: They've managed to kind of avoid big injury issues on

768
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 7: offense so far, other than you know, the one off

769
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Speaker 7: games with you know, Alec Piersmith and with a concussion

770
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Speaker 7: and things like that. But when they returned from the bikes,

771
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Speaker 7: I think they're going to be in pretty good shape.

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Speaker 3: Jake, last one for me, what did you think of

773
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner's debut with the Colts.

774
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Speaker 4: I thought it was mostly good.

775
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 7: You know, the obviously slipping on the two point conversion

776
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 7: that kind of puts the spotlight on everything, But if

777
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 7: you look at his game and totality, I thought he

778
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 7: just carried.

779
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 4: A lot of weight just by being on the field.

780
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 7: Him being out there kind of gives Lulian Roumo the

781
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 7: confidence to bring more pressure because he's got an elite.

782
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 4: Cover corner out there.

783
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 7: Atlanta was clearly trying to avoid him and move Drake

784
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 7: London kind of out of his.

785
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: Gravity a little bit.

786
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 7: That's why they kept moving London into the slot, and

787
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 7: most of London's big plays came when Atlanta got him

788
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Speaker 7: away from Sauce.

789
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Speaker 4: So when you've got one really really high level cover.

790
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 7: Corner out there, it's it really is invaluable to how

791
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 7: it trickles down to everything else in the defense. But

792
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 7: now when you bring more back here in a couple

793
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 7: of weeks, hopefully, if he's able to be back, defenses

794
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 7: can't really do that. I mean, Gardner is still going

795
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 7: to be the top corner, but they're gonna it's gonna

796
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 7: be a lot harder to hide guys.

797
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: So overall, I thought Gardner's play was really good.

798
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 7: He kind of baited Penix into that one play on

799
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 7: third down where he nearly had the interception. He felt

800
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 7: pretty confident he was going to get a pick six,

801
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 7: which being a physically gifted player is one thing, but

802
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 7: h Gardner seems to be the type of guy where

803
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 7: he's able to play kind of chess while others are

804
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 7: playing checkers a lot like Kenny Moore. Kenny Moore bates

805
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 7: quarterbacks into a lot of mistakes, and it feels like

806
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 7: Sauce is kind of of that same caliber. So you know,

807
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 7: you keep Sauce out the keep him healthy, and then

808
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 7: when you get everybody else back, I think it's going

809
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 7: to be a really really good defense.

810
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us and getting up early, Jake. We

811
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: appreciate it. People can get your podcast just about anywhere

812
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: podcasts can be downloaded. It's locked on colts and always

813
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: fun to listen to you guys after a game as well.

814
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely, guys, thanks for having me there.

815
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: Is right there, Jake Arthur, who I thought when he

816
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: called him up and got him on the phone. I

817
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: thought Caleb was just I mean, he was just all

818
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: over Oliver Jake. He was Jake like you were blood.

819
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: You were blushing when he answered.

820
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 3: It's like when we have Pete Samson and Kevin gets old.

821
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.

822
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 5: Yeah. Listen, man, I have a chance to be on

823
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 5: this show and talk to some pretty cool people and

824
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 5: other than you guys, obviously, and so yeah, like I'm

825
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 5: going to take the chance to say how great of

826
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 5: a job Jake Arthur does.

827
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Speaker 3: He's very good.

828
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: I appreciate that you got Jake on the phone and

829
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: you gave him thirty seconds of how wonderful he is

830
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: and it was fun to listen to. So let's go

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Speaker 2: to the fan hotline right now, brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Payless Liquors. And on that Payless Liquers hotline, we have

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Speaker 2: Alex Golden you of course setting the Pace podcast does

834
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: a great job of covering the Indiana Pacers.

835
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 5: And have you ever been to Europe or Germany?

836
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 6: Alex, No, I don't even have a passport, to be

837
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 6: honest with you, I've never left the country.

838
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: Okay, there's look, there's nothing wrong with that. I get it.

839
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 5: Would you like to go?

840
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: Is the question. I thought you would have gone to

841
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 2: France to watch the Pacers last year.

842
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 6: No, I mean if I don't work, if I didn't

843
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 6: work a normal job, you know, like a six to

844
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 6: five PM job, and I would I would consider doing

845
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff. But no, I just I mean, yeah,

846
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 6: one day right now, not necessarily. I'm just more of

847
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 6: a I'm a homebody. But you know, I don't mind traveling.

848
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 6: I just never really did much of it growing up.

849
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: So you got a little one too. You got to

850
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: stay home and take care of it. So yeah, that's

851
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: how that goes. Alex Golden joining us here, As I

852
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 2: said on the Payloss Liquors hot line, are we getting

853
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: a little bit healthy for the Indiana Pacers at the

854
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: end of this road trip here?

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00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 6: I mean tij McConnell was upgraded to questionable, Andrew and

856
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 6: im hard return, so it looks like we are getting

857
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 6: a little bit healthier, which you know, you can't you

858
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 6: can't wish that to not happen because I know there's

859
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 6: a lot of fans wanting the Pacers to just kind

860
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 6: of take this year off and get a high draft pick.

861
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 6: But I think for the development of this team of

862
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 6: young players, you need your point guards back. You need

863
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 6: to get healthy to kind of see what you have

864
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 6: moving forward. So hopefully TJ is able to play soon.

865
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 6: I don't know if it'll be tonight or not, but

866
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 6: seeing him Upgraater from out the questionable after being out

867
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 6: a month, I think that's a good sign.

868
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Speaker 3: Alex. Besides, you know, it's been a gut punch start

869
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: to the season for the Pacers. But what has been

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00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: the bright spot? If you can find one, what's been

871
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: the bright spot of the season despite just a horrific start.

872
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 6: That's a good one bright spot. I think that we've

873
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 6: seen a little bit of development from Isaiah Jackson at

874
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 6: the five. I think that'd be one thing I've noticed.

875
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 6: He really had a breakout game the last time the

876
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 6: Pacers played the Warriors, the one that actually won that game.

877
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 6: He had a really good second half, played really good

878
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 6: against Milwaukee, So I think we're slowly starting to see

879
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 6: him get back to form. I would say Jarris Walker

880
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 6: has had some ups and down so far, but good

881
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 6: to see him getting some opportunity. And then of course

882
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 6: Pascal just proving that he can be that one a

883
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 6: level player and really put your team in a spot

884
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 6: most nights to be at the you know, at the

885
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 6: end of the game with a chance to win it.

886
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 6: So you know, there's not a lot of bright spots

887
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 6: in this one, but that's kind of where I'm looking

888
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 6: at my bright spots.

889
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've kind of gone with like I try to

890
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 3: pay a picture of Pacers positivity. That's a lot of peas, right,

891
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: I just said there, But I try to pay in

892
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: a little bit of positivity because I said, you know,

893
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: these are players getting minutes that normally wouldn't have gotten

894
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 3: the amount of minutes they had even without Tyreez Halberton,

895
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 3: but if they didn't have the litany of injuries that

896
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: they've had. So maybe that's a bright spot. The Carlisle

897
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: and the rest of the coaching staff are like, Okay,

898
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: well we're seeing some people, what thing you bring to

899
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: the table? Can they be around past this season when

900
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: Tyreek gets healthy and we potentially get a high lottery

901
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: pick going and all that are these are these I

902
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 3: feel like that's positivity where we're seeing what guys can

903
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: do and how they can possibly be role players going

904
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: forward once this team gets back to full strength.

905
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's definitely true. I just think that

906
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 6: with how hurt you've been at the point guard spot.

907
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 6: It really has impacted a lot of players because so

908
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 6: much of this team is, you know, predicated on point

909
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 6: guard play, and when you're down your three point guards

910
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 6: from last year and you're actually playing some games out

911
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 6: even quitting Jackson, who actually would have been a bright

912
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 6: spot as well that I should have mentioned. You know,

913
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 6: it's like you're playing ray J Dennis and you're playing

914
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 6: Ben Shepherd at the one you finally you bring in

915
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 6: Monte Morris, but at the same time you getting them

916
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 6: hard back. So now you actually have point guards quote

917
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 6: you know, quotes point guards out there on the floor

918
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 6: to kind of get guys set up, because with so

919
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 6: many guys playing at a position, you know, Jay Huff

920
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 6: playing the foe should never really be a thing. It's

921
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 6: just you're kind of like trying to figure out, how

922
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 6: do I actually evaluate these players when they're playing so

923
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 6: at a position and not with the normal rotation. So yeah,

924
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 6: you're seeing them take on bigger roles, but like at

925
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 6: the same time, you're not really saying how they would

926
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 6: impact your team moving forward.

927
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 8: In my personal opinion, so as they are starting to

928
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 8: get a little bit healthier, what's your assessment of the

929
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 8: center position, which seems to be a bit of a

930
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 8: crap shoot through the first part of this season, Like

931
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 8: where are we at there?

932
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's not great if you're asking me personally.

933
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 6: I think Isaiah Jackson has solidified himself as the best

934
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 6: of the three that they have. I think Tony Bradley's

935
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 6: probably been the most consistent through the first ten games.

936
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 6: Jay Huff has had, you know, a really good game

937
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 6: against Brooklyn, had a decent game against Golden State, but

938
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 6: other than that, I haven't been overly impressed with Jay Huff.

939
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 6: So I think right now, from how I look at

940
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 6: this pacer center rotation, I think you have a really

941
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 6: good backup center for the future in Isaiah Jackson, and

942
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 6: then a third shring center in neither Jay Huff or

943
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 6: Tony Bradley. You're still missing that long term starting center piece. Now.

944
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 6: I don't want to rule Isaiah Jackson out because with

945
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 6: a healthy guard rotation, could he look a little bit

946
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 6: better potentially. But I just think that right now, there's

947
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 6: a lot to be desired there at the center position,

948
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 6: and they just they haven't got enough consistency or production

949
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 6: out of that spot.

950
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are. No, this is my favorite part of

951
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: the show. Oh boy, Evan just came in with cluster truck.

952
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: Thanks Kevin.

953
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: Sorry you're on the phone today, Alice. You got to

954
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: come in and join us on one of these days.

955
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: And just talking about the Pacers finishing up the road

956
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: trip here just one win so far. Is there a

957
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: possibility for a win before they come home? Now that

958
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: they're getting a little bit healthy, what's their best shot?

959
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 6: I mean probably tonight against Utah, right, I mean, Siakam's

960
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 6: going to be playing. He's healthy, niet but it's going

961
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 6: to be playing. He's healthy, them heart's healthy. McConnell's questionable.

962
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 6: So you're starting to get your guys back. I think

963
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 6: getting Mathurn back at some point will be big, just

964
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 6: to get you another scorer out there. But I think

965
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 6: this is a game they can win. It's not like

966
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 6: Utah's great. I think they've won three games this year,

967
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 6: had a close win against Boston, they beat the Clippers,

968
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 6: who've been really struggling this year in the Suns in overtime.

969
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 6: So it's not like they're a great team. And here's

970
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 6: what I'll say for any Pacer fan like that is

971
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 6: trying to find positivity with this team.

972
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 4: Though.

973
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 6: The best way to kind of look at this season,

974
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 6: I'm doing it this way is in ten game increments. Okay,

975
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 6: you started out one to nine. What do you do

976
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 6: over the next ten games? Can you find yourself being

977
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 6: seven and three over the next ten games and now

978
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 6: your records eight and twelve, You know that looks a

979
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 6: lot better than one and nine. So I would just

980
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 6: say it's a long season. There's opportunities to win some

981
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 6: games coming up here. You know, Detroit's on the schedule

982
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 6: a couple of times, they're really banged up. They have

983
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 6: been playing really good basketball. But you've got some other

984
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 6: teams that are beautiful in this upcoming schedule as you're

985
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 6: getting healthier. So for fans that are looking for this

986
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 6: team to make the playoffs or maybe make the play

987
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 6: in that is kind of your your road to kind

988
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 6: of like watching this team and like perceiving this team is, Hey,

989
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 6: let's watch this in ten game increments. Because with the NFL,

990
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 6: you know, every week it's like, oh, win or lose,

991
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 6: it's a big deal. But in NBA there's so many games.

992
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 6: I think it's better to look at it as like

993
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 6: a ten game stretch versus day to day.

994
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try that with my wife, and like, I know,

995
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: I had a rough summer, but let me let me

996
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: rebound in the fall. I promise you I'm not as

997
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: big of a jackass as I appear. We'll see if.

998
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 6: That's not a bad idea. I mean, and I hope

999
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 6: your marriage a little bit.

1000
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: It sounds like something's on top of March's mind right now.

1001
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: I actually left the house door unlocked this morning before

1002
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: I left. Some life say you'll have the house door open, Like, oh,

1003
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: that's not ideal.

1004
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: Living in the mean streets of Brownsburg too.

1005
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: Probably Alex Golden of setting the pace joining us on

1006
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 3: the Payoffs Leakers highline. Alex talked about this a bit

1007
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: earlier again when I was when I was spitting my

1008
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: Pacers positivity, but it went under the radar because we

1009
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: were in the heart of the NBA Finals and all

1010
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: that stuff. We saw a trade by the Pacers and

1011
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: the Pelicans, and we're kind of like, well, that seems

1012
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: a little weird in the middle of the finals, But

1013
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: looking back on it, like how big is this now?

1014
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: Looking in hindsight of this trade that the Pelicans acquired

1015
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: the Pacers twenty twenty five first round pick, but then

1016
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 3: the Pacers reacquired their twenty twenty six first round pick,

1017
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: which was lost. They're in the Siakam trade now with

1018
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 3: Haliburton gone, Turner gone. That seems like that is going

1019
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 3: to come up huge given the state of the Pacers

1020
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 3: right now, Like we're looking at lottery picks and all that.

1021
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: Just talk about that pick that they reacquired.

1022
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 6: I mean, it's massive. It's honestly like probably one of

1023
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 6: the best moves that Kevin Pritchard's made in his tenure,

1024
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 6: and it is on accident. Right, It's like, you look

1025
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 6: at this team right now and the way things are

1026
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 6: kind of playing out, Like if this team ends up

1027
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 6: really falling apart, you can't stay healthy, and they end

1028
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 6: up getting into the lottery and they're a top three pick,

1029
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 6: Like wow, Like that could be a franchise changing pick.

1030
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 6: That is a you know, a star next to Tyre

1031
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 6: Salbert for the next decade, right, Like that's how big

1032
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 6: of a pick this could become. Now, if they start

1033
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 6: winning games and the picks to lose its value when

1034
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 6: it kind of falls down into like that six to

1035
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 6: ten range, you could still get a very good player there,

1036
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 6: or you could use that pick as a massive trade

1037
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 6: asset to go out there and shure up your roster.

1038
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 6: I think obviously, like I just mentioned, with the center rotation,

1039
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 6: they don't have a starting center on the roster in

1040
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 6: my personal opinion for the future, they could use that

1041
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 6: pick to go out there and get a center, and

1042
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 6: maybe there's a guy out there that's available and a

1043
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 6: team willing to move off of somebody. So I just

1044
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 6: think that it gives you so much more flexibility with

1045
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 6: how you build this roster moving forward. And if there's

1046
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 6: a guard out there that's really talented that happens to

1047
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 6: be in that top ten range, you get them on

1048
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 6: a rookie scale contract. Maybe you don't have to spend

1049
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 6: all your money paying Master and niece, Smith and Themhart

1050
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 6: all these guards that are coming up.

1051
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 4: Haliburt, Like, that's a lot of.

1052
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 6: Money you've invested into the guard rotation. Now you look

1053
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 6: at maybe we can go out there and get somebody

1054
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 6: on that rookie scale contract that could give us similar

1055
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 6: to you know, good production as some of the players

1056
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 6: already have. So I just think there's a lot of

1057
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 6: flexibility with it. But yeah, getting that pick back I

1058
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 6: mean the Pelicans, I know, wearing a lot of egg

1059
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 6: on their face for what they did with the trade

1060
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 6: with the Hawks to give them their first round pick.

1061
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 6: But for some reason, the Pelicans, I mean, the Pelicans

1062
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 6: gave their unprotected pick this year to the Hawks. I mean,

1063
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 6: if they are terrible and the Pasers are terrible, the

1064
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 6: Hawks and the Pacers could have two top three picks

1065
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 6: and that could have all been to the Pelicans, which

1066
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 6: is just kind of crazy to think about.

1067
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: Hindsight, the Pelicans doing dumb things that shocks Pelicans shocks me.

1068
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 6: I know, they're one of the most poorly run organizations

1069
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 6: in my in my tenure that has been covering the Pacers.

1070
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 6: I just when I saw that Joe Dumars was going there,

1071
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 6: I said, this is not feel like a great a

1072
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 6: great hire in my opigions. Whenever you get a new GM,

1073
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 6: they want to make big moves. And I know Derek

1074
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 6: Queen's a very talented player, Don't get me wrong, I'm

1075
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 6: hoping that he pans out for them, But the Zion

1076
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 6: thing has been a mess. He can't stay healthy, can't

1077
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 6: get in shape, all that stuff, and yeah, I don't

1078
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 6: know what's gonna happen with the Pelicans, But I would

1079
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 6: just hate to be a fan of that fan base

1080
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 6: because there's just nothing really to cheer.

1081
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: For Alex as an NBA guy, what'd you think of

1082
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham scoring forty six points last night on forty

1083
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: five shots.

1084
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I think I think he had thirty one

1085
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 6: misses as well, which is the most missed field goals

1086
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 6: in a game going all the way back to nineteen

1087
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 6: sixty seven. So you know, honestly, if you look at

1088
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 6: the roster that the Pistons had out there, like eight

1089
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 6: of their top ten guys are out so it kind

1090
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 6: of felt very Pascal Siakam esque with the guys he's

1091
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 6: been playing with, and so I kind of understand why

1092
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 6: they needed k to shoot so much. I mean, yeah,

1093
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 6: it wasn't a great production, but at the end of

1094
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 6: the day, they get to win an overtime against the

1095
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 6: Wizards team that was really scrapping and fighting for that one.

1096
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 6: So it was a fun game down the stretch. Kate's

1097
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 6: a really good player. I mean, what are the Pistons

1098
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 6: down nine and two? Like, they're playing incredible basketball and

1099
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 6: Kate Cunningham is a special player. But yeah, I just

1100
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 6: with a lot of shots. But I mean at the

1101
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 6: same point, who else do you want taking them? I

1102
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 6: mean I'd rather k to be missing and taking tough

1103
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 6: shots and having somebody else take him and miss him.

1104
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 6: So I don't hate that he was aggressive, but yeah,

1105
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 6: it's the third most field goal attendants we've seen in

1106
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 6: the last ten years, behind Kobe Bryant's fifty to twenty

1107
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 6: fifteen and then last year Jalen Brunson had a forty

1108
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 6: seven field goal attemn games. So it's a rare thing

1109
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 6: to see. But you know, Kate Cunningham putting the shots up, by.

1110
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: The way, the night that Kobe scored eighty one, he

1111
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: was twenty eight of forty six.

1112
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that was, you know, prior to ten

1113
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 6: years ago. So it's crazy you don't see forty six

1114
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 6: shots a lot. That's a lot of shots. I mean,

1115
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 6: that's probably close to forty forty five forty six percent

1116
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 6: of what they actually took as a team. So that's

1117
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 6: that's the guy putting the ball on the up a lot.

1118
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 6: And you know, I'm sure his arms are tired today.

1119
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 6: I'm sure mine would be it by shot that much.

1120
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: Somewhere somewhere, Alan Iverson is like, man, that's crazy. Forty

1121
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: six shots. Even AI thinks that's great.

1122
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, leg day for Kay Cunningham today, leg day,

1123
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 3: no ORMs.

1124
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: Alex, good to talk to you man. Thanks for putting

1125
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: up on our nonsense. We appreciate it.

1126
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 6: All righty guys, thanks so much for having me on.

1127
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 6: We'll talk soon.

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00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: Thanks brother.

1129
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,479
Speaker 2: Alex Golden setting the pace does a great job covering

1130
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: the Pacers. You can listen to his daily podcast. I

1131
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: listened to his podcast coming into work quite often.

1132
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: He and Foci do a great job. I've been on

1133
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: there before. There is a fun show, so they do

1134
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: a great job.

1135
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: I can't figure is Fauci is he here? Is in

1136
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: New York?

1137
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: I don't know where he's at after we should ask Alex,

1138
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. I the time I was on, we

1139
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 3: did a zoom call, so I think everyone was everywhere.

1140
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure exactly.

1141
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: That had you on for a zoom call.

1142
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: Well, I did an interview with them. I was on

1143
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: as a guest, but we did yeah, zoom call links

1144
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: or whatever. So that's the way it works, that's how

1145
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 3: we do it. That's a beautiful thing of twenty twenty five.

1146
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: You don't have to be in the same studio. It

1147
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 3: can be often wherever. We talked to James in Berlin yesterday.

1148
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 2: Caleb, you're you're one whisker away from being a guest

1149
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: on setting the Pace.

1150
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, come on now, I can talk Pacers basketball.

1151
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 5: I would love that. That'd be great.

1152
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: I mean we talked about that that that trade that

1153
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: they did make. It went under the radar during the

1154
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: finals because obviously we were like, what the hell, We're

1155
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 3: in the middle of the finals. We were paying attention trades.

1156
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: But I mean that is looming large that they reacquired

1157
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 3: their twenty twenty six first round pick, because you imagine

1158
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: if they didn't have it and the season was going

1159
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: the way that it is, you'd be like, oh boy,

1160
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: I wish we had that right now. So I'm glad

1161
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 3: you guys brought it up.

1162
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 5: Doing business with the Pelicans usually works out in your favor.

1163
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 3: Usually it's a win. Yeah, it's a good job.

1164
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 2: There's a line Usually every other GM in the league

1165
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: is like, no, I'm here first.

1166
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: Joe Dumars, can you pick up the call?

1167
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1168
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: That was that is going to be a huge trade,

1169
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 3: and I agree that is probably one of the best

1170
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: under the radar moves that Kevin Pritchard has made in

1171
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: his tenure, But great by them, because that's gonna be

1172
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: big time