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Speaker 2: I was told by Braun, the governor correct, who would

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Speaker 1: I thought they were well meeting.

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Speaker 2: Now I just think they're Republican shills that meet with

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Speaker 2: He told me he was coming back for more, all

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Speaker 1: I think we got to make some changes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Is Governor Brown playing poker with our money? Is that?

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Speaker 4: What's going on with that acepiss sleeve. So you've got

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Speaker 2: So one of the things that they did. Look, this

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Speaker 2: But the second part of it was because the lawmakers

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Speaker 2: And the question nobody can answer for me about the

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Speaker 3: I've got an answer. Oh, they grew government.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. They spent it. That's right.

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Speaker 5: Nobody planned and said, hey we gotta squirrel away few

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Speaker 5: It's our baseline, now we expected. That was literally one

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Speaker 2: It's not a tax, the increase, it's just the renewal

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Speaker 3: We need fourteen million more.

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Speaker 2: And so this bill was basically a giveaway to big business,

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Speaker 4: I was told during this short upcoming session they weren't

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Speaker 2: Everyone's very happy, So he's gonna have to square with

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Speaker 2: a Linda Rodgers. How if everyone's very happy, why she's

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Speaker 2: we need to delay all of this because everyone's very happy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so guess what, rob Boy?

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Speaker 1: Wait wait, we.

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Speaker 2: I would have totally done it, Yeah, in front of

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Speaker 2: Instead of holding the people accountable and demanding the answers,

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Speaker 2: the talking points was Rob Kendall is a bad Republican.

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Speaker 2: He's not in good standing because he's endorsed non Republicans

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Speaker 2: in light of that, if that's our standard, and Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: Who ran as an independent for the mayor of New.

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Speaker 2: to admit that's a bunch of hogwash and y'all were just.

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Speaker 1: Pulling stuff out of your ass because you didn't want me.

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Speaker 2: They're holding your candidates and your office holders accountable. Or

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Speaker 2: are we now going to say Donald Trump is a

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Oh which one?

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Speaker 3: Hogwash?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Hogwash? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: So now every time someone tries to say I'm a

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Speaker 3: You're in the soup together, huh.

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Speaker 4: I just want to make sure that we got the

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Speaker 1: Well, the State treasure Daniel Elliott said.

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Speaker 2: So really should have any problem getting into the Lincoln

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Speaker 3: Do you have an invite coming up.

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Speaker 3: I mean something on the horizon.

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Speaker 3: You just want to be invited to the party so

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Speaker 5: Well, and I knew they were going to We've been

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Speaker 5: That's why I accepted the invitation and we got what

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, when he talks to you, he can

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Speaker 4: Going to let you know that we're in day thirty

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Speaker 4: six of the government shutdown.

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Speaker 3: Well that's still going Yeah, longest one ever, longest one ever.

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Speaker 3: We did it. Congratulations you excited about that?

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Speaker 1: What did anything change?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, Todd Young is very upset about it.

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Speaker 5: I'm headed down to vote for the fourteenth time to

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Speaker 1: The Schumer shutdown, I predict is going to sue an

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Speaker 1: In and we can get back to business, which is

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Speaker 5: Okay, so we're all got to go the fourteenth time

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Speaker 5: and press the button in so strenuous people.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that what you get paid for?

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Speaker 2: Well, and you notice he never says I'm going down

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Speaker 2: for the fourteenth time, if you be honest, I'm going

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Speaker 2: down for the fourteenth time to fund Joe Biden's government,

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Speaker 2: which is exactly the bill that is in front of them.

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Speaker 2: And that's what the Republicans are doing. They never say that.

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Speaker 2: This is These people are all useless, they're all liars.

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Speaker 2: They don't do anything for you. There's not anything in

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Speaker 2: this government funding bill that's going to help you in

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Speaker 2: any shape, form or fashion. Nothing to get prices under control,

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Speaker 2: nothing to stop inflation, nothing to make your dollar worth more. Nothing,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing. It's just Joe Biden's government in canuation. And

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Speaker 4: So Donald Trump Republican in good standing, just like you,

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Speaker 4: Rob Panko, Yeah, thank you. He invited Republican senators to

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Speaker 7: Now, if we do what I I'm saying, they'll never

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Speaker 2: That is the way they would pass those things, mister president,

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Speaker 2: they will do these reconciliation bills like you did, mister President,

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Speaker 1: But like, I want to.

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Speaker 2: Like this guy because I want him to succeed as

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Speaker 3: Hammer's going to join us next. It is ninety three, WIBC.

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Speaker 2: We're mixing it up today. Yeah, had some big important

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Speaker 1: Oh? I told you this.

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Speaker 2: I had a macaroni and cheese accident making mac and

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Speaker 1: Mind look like a mutant?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's fine when I take it off,

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Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying it looks gross, and I feel

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Speaker 1: At it like it's a little burn. It's nothing like

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Speaker 2: They make these bandages and you should have said, well,

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Speaker 2: If you were there, you're there. It was looked much

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Speaker 1: I think you're downplaying it. You like the dude in

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Speaker 1: European Vacation. Oh, it's just a flesh wound and the

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't even notice if I'd have this bandage on it.

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Speaker 2: But thank you for pointing it out to everyone.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you're welcome.

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Speaker 5: You know what I've seen on social media all day

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Speaker 1: Last night was a referendum on Donald Trump. I don't

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Speaker 5: Because I got a feeling that if Jesus himself came

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Speaker 5: Like very blue states, very blue cities, I don't think

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Speaker 5: now and coming in third Republican heyeseus Christ eight point

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Speaker 5: Back a couple of years ago, Curtis Leewell had about

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Speaker 1: Jesus underperforming.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's uh, let's talk about that for a second.

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Speaker 2: Because you you did, you get credit. You put out

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Speaker 2: one of the funniest what do we call this?

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Speaker 1: Is it a meme? Is it's an AI created picture?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unlike others, it's appropriate, right, there's nothing, nothing being

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Speaker 2: And would you like to You can find it at

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Speaker 2: Hammer Nigel, Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Sure? Our Facebook and Twitter, I believe so. Last night,

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Speaker 5: Defeated for the third time running for governor in New Jersey,

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Speaker 5: Jack Chitarelli.

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Speaker 1: I sent Rob a text.

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Speaker 5: It's like, you know, maybe it's time to stop nominating

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Speaker 5: Jack Chittarelli to run for governor in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they keep running this guy and he

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Speaker 2: It's oh for three and it's like it's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: He never wins.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna run again, probably in four years, and then

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Speaker 2: It becomes the bills of New Jersey politics. But yes,

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Speaker 1: Well, it's time to stop running Jack Chitarelli.

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Speaker 5: So I created an Ai picture of Beto and Destiny

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Beto of course lost the race.

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Speaker 1: He was shoved down our throats.

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Speaker 2: Remember we told she was going to be the new

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Speaker 1: Oh, the people in Carmel love her. The wine moms

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Speaker 2: She has run against the two worst people to ever

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Speaker 1: But he won't say it to me.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was his shtick, that he's mister Billy

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Speaker 2: baddas he has no problem saying mean things about me

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Speaker 1: Why won't he say it to us? I thought the

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Speaker 1: same thing about Adam Wrenn. But I digress Well. I

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Speaker 5: Okay, let fat guy in here, baby, we'll hook that

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Uh, the point is she also lost your were distracted

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Speaker 5: She read for the party chair and they picked some

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Speaker 3: Whose actual name is Karen.

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Speaker 5: Welcome with open arms, Jack Chitarelli to the habitual Losers Club. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I look, I but I do think like the Virginia

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Speaker 5: It feels like Youngkin was the exception. He was right,

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Speaker 2: Is, right, say the ones with the what was the

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Speaker 1: Oh, that was for the was for the.

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Speaker 5: Just disgusting post birth abortion right late late like after

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Speaker 2: Nigel sounds just like the guys governor. Nigel can do

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Speaker 3: Virginia though you got to be like got him out

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he'll stay and probably run for

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Speaker 5: Probably now if you told me last night that Alabama

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Speaker 2: But remember the Roy Moore guy who lost in Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Where we don't hate the Jews, our accountant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah remember the yeah wow, he was a judge right,

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Speaker 2: I wish we'd know we were gonna talk of this advance,

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Speaker 2: But there's this great video some CNN guy, right, he's

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Speaker 1: Roy Moore's gotta win.

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Speaker 1: That was great.

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Speaker 2: But that's the sort of guy that could lose in Alabama.

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Speaker 5: And again, this is what I love about WIBC. We

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, Oh, we got enough TAMU hosts. Hey this afternoon, Uh,

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Speaker 5: the Tonas Tony Kennett. We'll talk a little bit about

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Speaker 5: the election last night. Uh, Danny Z from out Kick.

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Speaker 5: I want a national perspective, name Zach Chefs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's why you call him danny Z.

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Speaker 5: That makes sense, Dan Showski like coach k right, right,

451
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Speaker 5: I want to see from a neutral, natural national perspective.

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Speaker 5: Did the Colts win the trade?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? All right, all right, thanks hammer.

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Speaker 4: All right, we got Jacob Stewart from Indy Star, who's

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Speaker 4: gonna join us. Next, we're gonna talk redistricting.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he says that the Democrats aren't gonna win no

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Speaker 2: matter what happens with the redistricting. And he got into

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Speaker 2: he saved the state a bunch of money, or got

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Speaker 2: us turned out we were investing in China, and he

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Speaker 2: has become a.

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Speaker 4: Uncovered state hero, he says sluthor. He's up next on

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Speaker 4: ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 1: God, we're trying.

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Speaker 3: To put my money away, but I.

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Speaker 1: Got into d could not pay. So the redistrict thing

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Speaker 1: is coming and maybe, maybe possibly will it make a

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Speaker 1: difference in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a big question.

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Speaker 1: Huh, let's get to it.

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Speaker 2: Our next guest says it ain't gonna matter. Oh, it's good, okay,

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Speaker 2: John Rob. That's Casey joined our old pal Jacob Stewart,

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Speaker 2: columnist extraordinaire Indies star Jacob Stewart, Hello.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you have said it.

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Speaker 2: You have a new column out, because there's this kind

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Speaker 2: of theory that I subscribe to and then I read

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Speaker 2: your column that well, maybe not that if the Republicans

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Speaker 2: passed redistricting in December, which, by the way, you still

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Speaker 2: think even though brace says there's not the votes.

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Speaker 1: It's going down. Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 8: I think that that something's gonna give, and some senators

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Speaker 8: are going to agree.

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Speaker 1: They will find the votes.

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Speaker 8: You're right in on, Yes, I think so, but you know,

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Speaker 8: maybe I'll be proved wrong.

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Speaker 4: I'm of the theory that what happened last night across

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Speaker 4: the country in the elections Prop fifty, the mayoral race

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Speaker 4: in New York City, that is definitely going to sway

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Speaker 4: some of these people that have been on the fence.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I would imagine so. I mean out

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Speaker 8: mid year elections typically do poorly for Republicans anyways, and

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of like structural issues with these these elections.

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Speaker 8: So it's not surprising to me. But maybe it'll it'll

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Speaker 8: sway some people.

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Speaker 2: Uh okay, So let's let's talk about the column in

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Speaker 2: which there's sort of this prevailing theory from some people

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Speaker 2: or it's a it's not prevailing.

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Speaker 1: Obviously there's objection you're about to object to it.

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Speaker 2: But there's a theory that a lot of people seem

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Speaker 2: to think, well, all these people don't want redistricting. The

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Speaker 2: By the way, you've ever seen a town hall where

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Speaker 2: seventy people show up in opposition. Not one person supports something.

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Speaker 2: The data center issue that it because people are appear

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Speaker 2: to be so against this that if this goes forward,

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Speaker 2: if they do this, the people are going to be

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Speaker 2: so mad that they're going to show up in mass

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Speaker 2: and vote against Republicans. Now, a lot of these districts

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Speaker 2: it won't matter, but the swing wins are all going

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Speaker 2: to go Democrat. The House, the Senate, the ones that exist,

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Speaker 2: and most importantly the big one, which is the Secretary

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Speaker 2: of State's race, will go to boat By. You say, no,

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Speaker 2: it ain't gonna matter.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, for a long time, the Democratic Party

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Speaker 8: in Indiana has depended on voter turnout in Indianapolis on

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Speaker 8: whether or not they succeed at things. At least in

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Speaker 8: statewide and Indianapolis voter turnout has been very poor for

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Speaker 8: a long time, tied for like the second lowest in

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Speaker 8: the state. And I mean, if anything, redistricting will make

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Speaker 8: that worse, because if you lose a safe Democratic seat

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Speaker 8: in Andre Carson in the congressional races, then you don't

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Speaker 8: have a figure for people to look to and both

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Speaker 8: to drive their voter turnout, and that figure usually can

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Speaker 8: raise a lot of money, and since they don't really

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Speaker 8: have to defend their own seat very often, they can

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Speaker 8: spend that money on other candidates hypothetically. You know, there's

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Speaker 8: been some debate over whether or not that's actually happened

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Speaker 8: in Carson's case, but you know, the point stands that

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Speaker 8: somebody would be able to use that seat to rebuild

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Speaker 8: the Democratic Party and drive voter turnout, and if redistrict happens,

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Speaker 8: they won't have that opportunity anymore.

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Speaker 2: Because there's also a theory that like people are against it,

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Speaker 2: but they're not motivated by it, Like if it happens,

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Speaker 2: they'll just be like, Okay, I just go vote for

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Speaker 2: some other idiot, you know, right.

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Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, it's it's not a lot of you know,

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Speaker 8: it's not an issue that I think will drive voter turnout.

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Speaker 8: You know, we had abortion ban a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 8: and you know, the Democratic Party thought then too that

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Speaker 8: that would be like the thing that drives voter turnout

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Speaker 8: and finally gets you know, Democrats across the line to

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Speaker 8: electoral victories. It didn't turn out that way. Voter turnout

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Speaker 8: actually declined in Marion County between that year and the next,

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Speaker 8: and it overall, you know, it just points to the

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Speaker 8: fact that I don't think that the Democratic Party can depend

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Speaker 8: on ideas or even like strong political figures to get

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Speaker 8: across the line to electoral victory.

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Speaker 1: They need to rebuild their institution.

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Speaker 2: What do you see from your engagement on redistricting? Are

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Speaker 2: people into it? Is it something just nerds like us

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Speaker 2: are into?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you guys hear with the

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Speaker 1: Indie Star.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, so we visited Boone County a while ago,

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Speaker 8: and we talked to some people that I wouldn't say

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Speaker 8: are like super super politically involved. They are like civic

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Speaker 8: organization leaders involved in that way. And you know, even

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Speaker 8: the people that lean more conservative, they're kind of like, well,

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Speaker 8: I don't really like this redistricting thing. At least that's

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Speaker 8: what I gathered. But it didn't seem they didn't have

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Speaker 8: super strong opinions on it. I definitely don't think that's

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Speaker 8: going to change the way they vote.

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Speaker 1: Jacob Serve and the Indy Star is our guest.

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Speaker 3: Did they tell you why they didn't like it?

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Speaker 8: I think it just goes generally to a spirit of

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Speaker 8: anti institutions. People are individualists. Indiana is full of a

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Speaker 8: lot of independence, so people that vote straight ticket will

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Speaker 8: still say, well, I don't really identify with either political party.

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Speaker 8: I'm a moderate or I'm an independent.

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Speaker 2: Do you think an independent could ever win a statewide

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Speaker 2: election in Indiana? Like there's this Independent Indiana group and

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Speaker 2: their whole deal is they say, well, people are independent,

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Speaker 2: We just got to get more people running as independence.

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Speaker 2: We I guess good people to run as independent. Are

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Speaker 2: you one of those people who subscribes to that or

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Speaker 2: you say any everge ever gonna happen?

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Speaker 8: You know, I used to be more prone to that opinion,

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Speaker 8: But I don't think it's possible that the laws are

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Speaker 8: just very very much against anyone running from a third

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Speaker 8: party perspective or an independent perspective. You have to spend

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Speaker 8: hundreds of thousands of dollars just to get signatures to

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Speaker 8: get on the ballot, and that's money that could be

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Speaker 8: spent campaigning. So it just doesn't doesn't make sense. You

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Speaker 8: may as well just run as like an outsider and

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Speaker 8: a political party.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about money really quick, especially here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: Andre Carson not having as much money as which would

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Speaker 4: be typical. Is there any chance that the state party

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Speaker 4: or Marion County GOP could get it together.

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Speaker 3: And just beat him without redistricting.

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Speaker 8: You know, I don't think it's really possible with Andre Carson.

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Speaker 8: The fact that he's not raising so much money is

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Speaker 8: exactly because he doesn't have competition, the strongest, you know,

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Speaker 8: competition he has as primary challengers. You know, I think,

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Speaker 8: on the other hand, if you look at the first

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Speaker 8: district in Northwest Indiana, Frank Mirvan, there's definitely a chance

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Speaker 8: that he would be beaten within the next you know,

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Speaker 8: even before the next census. The district's already trending Republican.

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Speaker 8: Number of straight ticket voters in Lake County alone, as

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Speaker 8: that are voting for Republicans has more than doubled since

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Speaker 8: twenty sixteen. And that's just a sign that their organization is,

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Speaker 8: I think, being very effective. And you know, a lot

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Speaker 8: of people have said there's also this demographic shift happening,

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Speaker 8: you know, people leaving Chicago and coming to Indiana. Whether

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Speaker 8: or not that's true, we'll see. But you know, on

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Speaker 8: the other hand, some people have debated whether or not

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Speaker 8: the Republicans should redraw the districts eight one or nine

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Speaker 8: to zero. If they just redraw the Northwest Indiana district.

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Speaker 8: That that would almost be worse in my opinion, because

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Speaker 8: they open themselves up to that argument of being rigging

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Speaker 8: the election when the district's already trending conservative. So it

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Speaker 8: wouldn't make any sense. It would almost be offensive, I

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Speaker 8: think to local you know, officials there, if that's the

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Speaker 8: sole district they focused on changing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jacob Stewart, any start, our guest, we have to

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Speaker 2: give you credit. You have helped humanity. You have been

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Speaker 2: all over this I did. The State of Indiana was

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Speaker 2: still investing because they say, we're getting out of China. Right, right,

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Speaker 2: State of Indiana was this a year ago, two years ago? Whatever,

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Speaker 2: So we're getting out of investing in China or right,

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Speaker 2: did a big parade and this is great. And then you,

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Speaker 2: because you must have way too much time on your hands,

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Speaker 2: you figured out that in some little known consul or

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Speaker 2: crevice of the state investment portfolio there was still a

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Speaker 2: bunch of money invested in Hong Kong. Exactly how did

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Speaker 2: you find that? So it was you, do you have hobbies,

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Speaker 2: do you have friends?

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Speaker 1: What do you do? Well?

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Speaker 8: I investigate things that I enjoyed doing that. You know,

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Speaker 8: it was on a government website looking through documents, and

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Speaker 8: this is publicly available. It was the public Equity report

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Speaker 8: of the Indiana Public Retirement System, and they had all

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Speaker 8: their investments listed, thirty million of which were in Hong Kong.

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Speaker 8: And that was just publicly available data.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: The column I wrote on that subject, pointing out the

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Speaker 8: fact that we had essentially banned investing in China two

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Speaker 8: years prior to that, and they'd already they'd already you know,

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Speaker 8: patted themselves on the back saying, oh, we divested from

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Speaker 8: China entirely. Well, come to find out, of course, Hong

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Speaker 8: Kong is part of China, so they didn't really and

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Speaker 8: and so later.

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Speaker 3: They really didn't divest at all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Right, did they not know? Or were they pulling shnani?

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Speaker 2: Were they pulling bs?

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Speaker 8: You know, I think maybe a little bit of both.

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Speaker 1: Uh, because it is the government, so it is not

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Speaker 1: on in realm when they are that incompetent.

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Speaker 8: I think, I think that if you give a state

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Speaker 8: bureaucrat an inch will take a mile.

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Speaker 1: And when it comes to.

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Speaker 8: This issue, you have to be very very specific because

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Speaker 8: they're going to want to invest how they want, so

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Speaker 8: they're going to take you know, the least stringent interpretation

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Speaker 8: of the law.

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Speaker 2: So you, Jacob Stewart Indie Star columnists, great patriot, What

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Speaker 2: did you call someone?

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Speaker 1: Did you say, oh, excuse me, they're still in Hong Kong.

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Speaker 8: I so I emailed Senator Garton because I knew he

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Speaker 8: authored the law.

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Speaker 1: And he was on, oh, he's a big fan of ours.

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Speaker 1: You should have dropped our names.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he so, yeah, I emailed him about it because

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Speaker 8: I knew he'd authored the law. You know, full disclosure,

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Speaker 8: I used to work for him when I worked for

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Speaker 8: the Senate.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I was very aware why he took

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Speaker 3: the email.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and then they were like you're right. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: He was like, you're right. It was intended to include

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Speaker 8: Hong Kong as well. And he told me he emailed

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Speaker 8: the Indiana Public Retirement System and clarified the law to them,

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Speaker 8: and within the next couple of days they sent an

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Speaker 8: email back to him, which he shared with me, saying

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Speaker 8: that yeah, you're right. Since you're you authored the law,

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Speaker 8: you're the best one to interpret it. So we're divesting.

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Speaker 1: You're bossing the General Assembly around.

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Speaker 8: Well, and they did an investigation too, and found it

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Speaker 8: was actually one hundred and seventy million invested in Hong Kong,

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Speaker 8: not just thirty million now, So that's so.

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Speaker 3: What's the plan now?

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Speaker 8: So they're divesting by next month. From what I understand,

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Speaker 8: they've already started divesting from the Hong Kong.

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Speaker 1: Let me they sell it? Is that what they mean?

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Speaker 8: I mean so I I believe. So they're selling the

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Speaker 8: assets and.

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Speaker 3: Then reinvest in some places.

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Speaker 1: What is what is China? Are they the yen? Is

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Speaker 1: that right? I think?

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Speaker 2: Give us our yen. We're out of here. We don't

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Speaker 2: want any part of you people anymore.

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Speaker 3: Did they tell you what they're gonna re invest in?

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Speaker 3: Invest in?

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Speaker 8: That's not clear. I'd imagine another foreign country.

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Speaker 2: Bitcoin, Casey, we're going to big bank. Yeah, Jacob Stewart,

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Speaker 2: Indie Star.

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Speaker 1: You're the best. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's Kendall and Casey on ninety three WYBC. Ken.

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Speaker 2: This is a question for you because you're well, you're

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Speaker 2: the only young person on this show.

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Speaker 1: Kevin our fabulous producer, and you're the only person.

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Speaker 3: In the dating game I feel young.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're not ouch, but like I said, you look

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Speaker 1: great for sixty four years old. You're phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: There it is.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, there's a new study out and This study was

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Speaker 2: done by Credit One Bank. They served a surveyed one

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Speaker 2: thousand young adults that fifty percent of those taking the

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Speaker 2: survey admit to faking their wealth or exaggerating their financial success. Now,

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Speaker 2: have you ever that ever happened to you? Or you've

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Speaker 2: been on a tryst or a date or a rendezvous

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Speaker 2: of various times and places and then you found out

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Speaker 2: the person was just a big fat phony and was

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Speaker 2: lying to you about everything?

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Speaker 1: Not really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, have you ever done it?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever?

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Speaker 3: I was kidding?

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Speaker 1: It's nice about it. No, I might.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not gonna.

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Speaker 8: I'm not one to disclose my financial status up front.

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Speaker 1: I don't ask, No, they don't.

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Speaker 3: They ask about like jobs or what I do for

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Speaker 3: a living.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you when you go out with someone, when

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Speaker 2: you meet a rando, they know or never that doesn't

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Speaker 2: come up, like hey, what like.

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Speaker 1: What do you how much you make? Yeah? No, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't come up, not for me, at least credit score.

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Speaker 3: And if they asked medical records, blood type, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: would not tell them.

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Speaker 1: If you you wouldn't tell them.

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Speaker 3: No, could that be a turnoff for you? Yeah, they asked, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they have to earn that. Oh yeah, I have to

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Speaker 3: be more involved with them.

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Speaker 1: How many of them dates.

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Speaker 2: Would you have to be in before you would reveal

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Speaker 2: how much you make to someone? M Kevin, how about

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Speaker 2: you case when you met Jim, because you were the

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Speaker 2: aggressor in that in that relationship, well, I mean you

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Speaker 2: pursued him. He was a young man and you took

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Speaker 2: full advantage of his youth and inexperience. Did you fib

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Speaker 2: to him like, oh, Mama will take care of you.

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: We were both in radio, so he knew, so he

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Speaker 4: knew he had an idea, didn't have any money, just as.

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Speaker 3: Broke as me.

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Speaker 1: Hey, at some point, can you bring your wedding photo in?

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Speaker 3: Still with that?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I think I think that would be a smash hit.

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Speaker 3: I've still never seen it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's fabulous.

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Speaker 3: You're really missing out, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's great. I think people would love that.

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Speaker 2: It would really connect with our audience. Okay, anyway, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: So this is fastake though, that people feel the need

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Speaker 2: to gen Z, they say, study find the study findes

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Speaker 2: doing the story gen Z leads the pack.

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Speaker 5: They say fifty four percent who do this compared to

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Speaker 5: forty eight percent of millennials.

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Speaker 4: Right, And they also say that thirty seven percent would

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Speaker 4: overdraft or go into debt to impress a date.

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Speaker 3: And you know who. That reminds me of the guy who.

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Speaker 4: Worked a guy who worked here who date one wanted

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Speaker 4: to spend hundreds of dollars on the girl.

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Speaker 1: You remember this guy, right, keV, Oh yeah, I remember that. He.

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Speaker 1: I mean we kind of.

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Speaker 4: Did take her to Alta or Sephora or something and

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Speaker 4: have her shop for makeup.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we don't know for sure, but we think

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Speaker 2: this guy might have been pulling several shenanigans because.

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Speaker 1: He got what was the deal with this guy? So

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Speaker 1: he took he was a young guy.

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Speaker 2: Produce, well, he's a producer, worked various other things, and

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Speaker 2: he went on this date with this girl who was

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Speaker 2: clearly like she was a strong well you don't know

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Speaker 2: on the instagram, right anybody can you know end up

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Speaker 2: looking like Rosie O'Donnell in real life, but was a

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Speaker 2: strong broad ripple seven seven and a half at no

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Speaker 2: business being with this guy.

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Speaker 1: And then it was like how did you pull this off?

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Speaker 2: And then he described the first he was taking her on,

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Speaker 2: which wasn't like, hey, we're going to the KFC or something.

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Speaker 2: He was taking her on a shopping spree, right, and

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Speaker 2: he was going to have to drop what we estimated

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Speaker 2: to be Yeah, probably at least. But then was he

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Speaker 2: the same guy who then they had the pictures together.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and he was behind her, but he wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Tagging her in the photos, and we kind of came

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Speaker 2: to the conclusion that maybe he was trying to present

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Speaker 2: her as something she was not.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he posted her He posted the picture of them

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Speaker 8: too on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Yes he didn't tag her.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, that's the thing, which was a giant red flag,

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Speaker 2: like these sort of photos that you like.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he got her to take the.

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Speaker 2: Fuck, but I don't know why she would agreed to

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Speaker 2: take that. There was so much mysterious about all of this.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, this is totally who. This reminds me of

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Speaker 2: me too.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking of the same thing, like, this guy

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Speaker 4: is going to spend all this money to lead her

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Speaker 4: to believe that he has deep pockets when in fact

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Speaker 4: he doesn't. Now I don't know if I would be

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Speaker 4: so angry, I would be more upset about the.

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Speaker 2: Lie, oh, the lie about the financials, rather than you

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Speaker 2: couldn't provide for whatever.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, right, the actual situation, Okay, that is what

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Speaker 4: it is, but don't lie to me about it.

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Speaker 3: Don't try and miss fish.

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Speaker 2: This is an amazing statist. According to this study finds article,

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Speaker 2: thirty seven percent say they'd be willing to overdraft their

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Speaker 2: account right or plunge into debt just to impress someone

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Speaker 2: on a date.

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Speaker 1: Right. That is insane, right.

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Speaker 3: Like, that's how far you're going to go.

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Speaker 1: That is, to keep up the lie to do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, so.

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Speaker 2: Because what's the off ramp on that you can't keep

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Speaker 2: that up forever?

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Speaker 1: Well, you probably can't.

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Speaker 3: Keep that up. Look at the young guy who worked here.

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Speaker 2: Well, but I mean his off ramp appeared to be

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Speaker 2: maybe he just wanted to picture with this girl for

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Speaker 2: who knows what he.

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Speaker 4: Was trying to impress someone else made I don't But

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Speaker 4: he didn't tag her.

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Speaker 2: That was the thing where we're like, if that's your girl,

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Speaker 2: or you're not just posting the picture, You're like, at you.

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Speaker 4: Didn't have Instagram so he could showed us the pictures

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Speaker 4: of her on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: She definitely had Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how we saw her. We asked him because

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Speaker 2: he said he was going on the state, and we

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Speaker 2: were like, let's see one sort of assemblage you're working

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Speaker 2: with here, and then Kevin I were blown away that

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Speaker 2: this guy ended up with her, and we were like, like,

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Speaker 2: we came up with a couple of logical reasons it

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Speaker 2: could have been, and none of them seemed to really

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Speaker 2: check out then, and then we determined, well, this could

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Speaker 2: have been just you know, maybe we don't know. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I hope wherever he's at, he's having a good life.

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Speaker 4: One in five people in dating apps to display credit scores. Well,

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Speaker 4: let's hear, are we the same political affiliation, same goals?

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Speaker 4: What's their credit score? It is kind of like Casey

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Speaker 4: on ninety three WYBC