1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Well, we start today with some great news, Casey. Yeah, 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: it's I know you're going to be very enthused about this. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: Your state lawmakers, they're headed to Washington, d c. 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: Oh, is that what we're starting with? Is that great news? 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: And rest assured it's a tippy top issue for most 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: who's your voters. I mean, it's not inflation, it's out 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: of control grocery prices, or you know, figuring out how 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: to stop the never ending gas tax from the highest 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: gas taxes in the nation, or the property taxes, or 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: the electric bills. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's an 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: issue that's on the tip of everyone's tongue. They're going 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: to be bullied by Donald Trump on redistricting. 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: Oh so are all of them going? It's been limited 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: to an eighty person invite? 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: There are eighty spots. 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait wait, I'm totally got ahead of 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: myself before we get into this. Yeah, maestro, if you please, 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Oh lot of. 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: Oh what a beautiful day, Oh God, a beautiful. 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: Everything. Did you read the Capitol Chronicle yesterday, Casey? 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: I did for the first time. 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: For the first time, Casey, I think Rokita's in big trouble. 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: Possibly right the attorney General for the state of Indiana. 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: I told him he got he got his He got 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: every extremity smacked around by a uh three judge panel 26 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: yesterday in regards to these disciplinary complaints against him. We'll 27 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: get into that later, but since I know Todd listens, 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to start our program letting him know, Todd. 29 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: Attorney General, we'll do it. 30 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: Look, so everybody gives Todd time to get ready. At 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,279 Speaker 1: ten o'clock, we're going to do a deep dive on. 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: Somebody goes boke him. 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: What happened to Olock? What happened to our old pal 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: Todd Roketa the attorney general yesterday? Because that was fricking 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: awesome and that three judge panel they've had enough of 36 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: his bull crap and that was just great. Okay, back 37 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: to the lawmakers, Okaat. I know we're kind of hopping 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: around here, but I did not want to not start 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: the program on a positive note, and this is there's 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: nothing positive about what we're about to discuss. So we 41 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: have to pay for these clowns to go to Washington, 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: d C. Is that right? 43 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? So some Republican lawmakers, they were invited by the 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: Trump administration to meet in Washington, DC today, they're going 45 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: to discuss Donald Trump's agenda. 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: The invitation did. 47 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: Not specifically include redistricting. Also topic of discussion. 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: What are they there to do? What do you think 49 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: you're there to do? 50 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: Right? However, this visit of THEIRS does follow Vice President j. 51 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: D Vance's trip here to Indiana where they did discuss 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: the mid decade redistricting. Uh huh and uh yeah, who's 53 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: paying for the trip? Well, you are silly, yes, you 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: and me and Kevin. 55 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: So what they're allowed one? What do they call it? 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: Some sort of public policy trip or something that we 57 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: have to pay for? Yeah, and so if they haven't 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: already taken it, then we've got to foot the bill. 59 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: So no money to help you with the property tax, 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: no money to help you with the never ending get 61 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: the road, fix the roads without continuing to screw you 62 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: on gas tax and the tollings coming, No money for that. 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: No money with the utilities other than letting the utilities 64 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: just continue to I mean, it's a tax. If you 65 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: can't opt out of it, tax you into oblivion. No 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: money for any of that stuff. But they got plenty 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: of money to one pay upwards of a half million 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: dollars for the redistricting and to pay for all these 69 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: people to go to Washington, DC to be bullied by 70 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. 71 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: Yep, they did not have a final list of the attendees. 72 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: Invitations were sent out individually, and the White House as 73 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: of yesterday did not release the RSVP list. But you 74 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: are correct, Indiana tax payers may cover some of the 75 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: tra because these lawmakers, they're allowed to be reimbursed for 76 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: one policy forum or conference per year, and it's got 77 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: to be reasonable travel expenses, and they're calling a trip 78 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: to DC a reasonable travel expense. 79 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. But but this is blatant political activity. I mean, this 80 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: is they can't even lie and give you a reason 81 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: they're doing it other than they just basically have admitted 82 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: we're doing this to get more Republicans elected. It's not 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: like they have even come up with some thing like 84 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: Texas did, where all all these people moved here, because 85 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: let's face it, people are not moving to Indiana certainly 86 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: in the way they are some of these other states, 87 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: and with good reason. But they can't even come up 88 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: with a good lie. So they've just come out and 89 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: said it's political activity. So I want to know how 90 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 1: when the Republicans are admitting this is being blatantly done 91 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: to elect more Republicans. Why taxpayers are on the hook 92 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: for a party function? This is clearly are any Democrats going? 93 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: Are any Democrat that's a part of the trip? 94 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: I don't believe they were invited. 95 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: Oh so it is a blatant party function, is a 96 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: blatant political function. And you, Casey, are being asked to 97 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: put the tab And by the way, like you said, 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Jim Lucas is going, yeah. 99 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: That's what's being reported. Jim Lucas is attending the meeting. 100 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: We said that the Capitol Chronicle. So this is what 101 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: even though he's opposing this registrict case, this idea, So 102 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: this is the. 103 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Most Jim Lucas thing ever. Okay, so he does the 104 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: right thing, if indeed this is accurate in the Capitol Chronicle, 105 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: he does the right thing, comes out and it's like, yeah, 106 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm against us, but he still wants the trip to Washington. 107 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: So he's like, sign me up for that. I've already 108 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: made up my mind. Although it doesn't even matter what 109 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: these guys have said. Look at Craig Haggard, look at 110 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: that lion backstab and sack a crap like Craig Haggard, 111 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: the state rep from Well, he's got what three County's 112 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: got Hendricks, he's got Johnson, he's got Morgan who went 113 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: on our program. And it is like I'm against it, 114 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: and then the next week was like a change my 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: mind for it. So you can't trust these people anyway. 116 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: But I want to know why the taxpayers are on 117 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: the hook for a what is now being publicly stated, 118 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: it's a blatant function of the Republican Party. It's designed 119 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: solely to help the Republican Party. It's not designed to 120 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: make the elections more fair, it's not designed to make 121 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: them more equitable. They can't come up with any reason. 122 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: The maps they drew just a couple of years ago 123 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: or wrong. Why are we paying for the Republican Party 124 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: as taxpayers? As public taxers? Why are we paying for 125 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: the Republican Party to rig the election system in their favor? 126 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 3: So if this is their first such event of this year, 127 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: lawmakers can get reimbursed for reasonable travel expenses round trip 128 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: flight costs as low as one hundred and ninety eight 129 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: dollars from nd TOO DC. 130 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: Not what I've seen, they. 131 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: May have some special deal. In fact, I was just 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 3: looking last night. 133 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: Didn't you just go there? I did? 134 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: But there's a Labor Day weekend coming out. 135 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I'm going to use points instead of 136 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: paying for it or you know, charging the taxpayers. 137 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: Just send me there. Sure, but I did not see 138 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety eight dollars. 139 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: Okay, why don't we take By the way, we've got 140 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: State Rep. Kyle Miller, who's going to join us from 141 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: Fort Wayne, Democrat from Fort Wayne at nine point thirty 142 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: to talk about this. There's a new poll out that 143 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: is very interesting about redistricting and how people are supposedly 144 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: feeling about redistricting. That a duel just just posted over 145 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: in Indie Politics. But keV, can we can we cue 146 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: that music back up before we go to a break, 147 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: because oh look, this is kind of a depressing time, 148 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: right And in all of this sadness of the Republicans 149 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: doing what they do here in Indiana, which to screw you, 150 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: there is still great news. 151 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 4: Poh lot of beautiful mon in, poh lot of beautiful day. 152 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: Oh god, a beautiful. 153 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: Because Todd Rokeina could be in big trouble and that's 154 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: a win for humanity. We'll tell you more about that 155 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: later as well. 156 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: It's Kenny Casey, It's ninety three IBC. 157 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: Okay, we got to get to this new pole that's 158 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: out on redistricting. But first, everybody's obsessed over Trump's hands. Now, 159 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: is that the thing? 160 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, some images that showed his right hand went viral 161 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: and a lot of people were concerned about what's going 162 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: on with. 163 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: His health, What's what is wrong with his hands? 164 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: Well, there was a big bruise. 165 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: So some zoomed in photos from August twenty second, when 166 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: he was announcing the FIFA World Cup, they showed some 167 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: light foundation, a little bit of makeup covering his right hand, 168 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 3: and then yesterday during his meeting with the South Korean president, 169 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: there was visible bruising which appeared on the same hand. Now, 170 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 3: you might remember back in July, the White House announced 171 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: that Trump was diagnosed with chronic venous insufficiency, which is 172 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: a vain condition and oftentimes it leads to swelling and bruising. 173 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: Wait, wait, that's it. That's the people that some guy 174 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: had a bruise on his hand and people are freaking 175 00:08:59,720 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: out of it. 176 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 3: Well, a while back, the White House Press secretary said, well, 177 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: you know, it's bruising from shaking hands. He meets a 178 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: lot of people, He shakes a lot of hands. But 179 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 3: then she came out yesterday and said this. 180 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 5: I know that many in the media have been speculating 181 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 5: about bruising on the President's hands and also swelling in 182 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 5: the President's legs. So in the effort of transparency, the 183 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 5: President wanted me to share a note from his physician 184 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 5: with all of you today. In recent weeks, President Trump 185 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 5: noted mild swelling in his lower legs and keeping with 186 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 5: routine medical care and out of an abundance of caution, 187 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 5: this concern was thoroughly evaluated by the White House Medical Unit. 188 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 5: The President underwent a comprehensive examination, including diagnostic vascular studies, 189 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 5: bilateral lower extremity that venus Doppler ultrasounds were performed and 190 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 5: revealed chronic venous insufficiency. Recent photos of the President have 191 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 5: shown minor bruising on the back of his hand. This 192 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 5: is consistent with minor soft tissue irritation from frequent handshaking 193 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 5: and the use of aspirin, which is taken as part 194 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 5: of a standard cardiovascular prevention regiment. 195 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so they're saying, you know, this is just from 196 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: that chronic venus insufficiency and he's bruising. But if they're 197 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: being completely transparent, why the makeup? 198 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 6: Then? 199 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Okay? So a couple things. One, the guy's old, Okay, 200 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: like I know people don't want to admit that. What 201 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: is he? 202 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: He's damn the second oldest US president ever. 203 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's eighty years old or something like that. I 204 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: don't know what is exact age, but he's darn you're 205 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: How old is Trump? He's got almost be eighty years old, 206 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: doesn't he? What is okay? Price is right, Kevin? What 207 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: do you say? I say Trump is seventy eight years old? 208 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: What do you say? I think he's seventy nine? Casey, 209 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: he's older than that. 210 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: He just had a birthday. 211 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: Okay, in what so, what's the number I'm in at? 212 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 3: Seventy fight fag day is his birthday? I'm going to 213 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: say eighty one. 214 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: He is seventy nine years old, Kevin? You are he 215 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: just turned seventy nine. And there's lots of people who 216 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: are seventy nine years old. I'm about to prove a 217 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: point here who live very long, happy, healthful, healthy lives? Right? 218 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: Did I say? Halpful, halful, healthy, hopeful, happy they live 219 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: a long time. 220 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: Can't see they're good with it. 221 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So he is an older person. My grandfather had 222 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: this deal where he would bruise all the time. It 223 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: started probably in his mid to late seventies. He lived 224 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: to be ninety two years old, and until basically at 225 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: the very end was a pretty healthy dude who was 226 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: driving himself around and cutting his own grass. Okay, like, 227 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: and he had this exact thing like bruising and whatever. 228 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: Like that doesn't mean you're gonna kill over dead. It 229 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: means you just like you bruise easily as you get older. 230 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: It's a genetic thing. Like, I don't I don't see 231 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: anything in this other than a media manufactured story. Now, 232 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: Trump is a pretty vain person, so I could see 233 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: him putting the makeup on because he doesn't want people 234 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: to see it. But old people bruise easy casey. 235 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: Yes, this is true. 236 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: It happens to my father in law often. He didn't 237 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: just bump something very lightly and ope, that's going to 238 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: be a big bruise. And to your point, he's eighty 239 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: six years old. 240 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: So well, okay, perfect right, So there you go. All right, 241 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: So I think people are just making a mountain out 242 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: of a what is the old saying a mountain out 243 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: of a mole hill? And this is a bunch of nothing. 244 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: And yes, Trump plays into it by being vain and 245 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: ridiculous about everything and just being like, yeah, I'm old, 246 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: I bruised, so does everybody else. Next topic, when's the 247 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: next Russia summit? He's got to you know, feed into 248 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: it and all you know, I'm the best health I'm 249 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: the most perfect president ever. Oh but no, you're just 250 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: an old guy who's the president? Right, it happens, we 251 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: will most. 252 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 3: Likely have enough energy though to meet a bunch of 253 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: Indiana lawmakers who are heading to DC today. 254 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: Okay, well that's right, Yes, he'll be meeting with the 255 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: Indiana lawmakers. Speaking of which, there is a new poll 256 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: out of Duels. Got this up over at Indie Politics, 257 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: and the headline says, survey who's yours opposed mid decade redistricting? 258 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: So this is a survey that came out from Change Research. 259 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: It was August eighteen through the twenty first. They surveyed 260 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: Oney six hundred and sixty two registered voters and according 261 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: to this poll, fifty two percent of the people opposed 262 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: mid decade redistricting compared to thirty four percent who support it, 263 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: so fifty two thirty four. Now, when they did what 264 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: I believe would be called push polling, which is, after 265 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: you've answered the question, they give you more information that 266 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: increases to sixty percent, but the baseline support opposed fifty 267 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: two to thirty four, And so it do. This does 268 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: sort of support what at least some of these Donut 269 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: County reps, the Danny Lopez people. Craig Haggard before he 270 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: pathetically got bullied by Charlie Kirk, some of these other 271 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: people think about how pathetic Craig Haggard is a grown 272 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: ass man who got bullied by an Arizona podcast. Oh 273 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm a military guy. I'm mister tough guy. I'm gonna 274 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: go to Washington and fight for you. Craig Hackard is 275 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: a state rep from what is it Johnson, it's Morgan, 276 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: it's Hendricks County. He's running for Congress in the fourth 277 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: Congressional distorts. Yes, that's right, and I would sooner shoot 278 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: myself right between the eyes as ever vote for that guy. 279 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: So uh, but he made his choice, right, he allowed 280 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: he came on our programs and oh I'm totally against 281 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: a yeah, yeah, And then a week yeah, after Charlie 282 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: Kirk made a mean tweet in the direction of the Republicans. 283 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: He flipped. So if you vote for that guy, if 284 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: he can't even stand up to Charlie Kirk, you think 285 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna stand up anybody in Washington anyway. I'm getting 286 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: off on a tangent here, Casey. What I think you 287 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: saw from these these Donut County House people who have 288 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: come out is Hey, in deep, deep red places you 289 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: probably do have support for this, but throughout the state 290 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: as an entirety, at least according to this poll, and 291 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: I think you saw anecdotal evidence of this. People do 292 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: not like this. The maps are this is the thing. 293 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: The maps are already jerrymannered. Seventy eight percent of our 294 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: congressional seats are Republican, only fifty eight percent of the 295 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: people voted Republican last election, seventy percent of our state 296 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: House seats, eighty percent of our state Senate seats. The 297 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: maps are already Jerry mannerd in favor of the Republicans, 298 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: and people like they're find the way they are. 299 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: To your point about Haggard getting bullied by somebody who 300 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: doesn't even live here. According to the poll, seventy percent 301 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: said they were concerned about out of state politicians trying 302 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: to influence Indiana politics. 303 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: But how important is this to people? 304 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: Many of these people who are surveys that I don't 305 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 3: even know what you're talking about until they were informed 306 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: during the survey, and just seven percent ranked it as 307 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: one of their top three priorities. 308 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: It's why, it's why Todd Houston, the Indiana Speaker of 309 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: the House, and Rod Bray, the pro tim of the Senate, 310 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: the leader of the Senate, don't want any part of 311 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: this because it's not an issue for most people. It's 312 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: an issue for Donald Trump and his goon squad that 313 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: are famous on Twitter, like it's not a rank and 314 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: file person doesn't care. You know what was the top 315 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: issue by twenty points. Inflation? The cost of everyday goods 316 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: was overwhelmingly the number one issue. And that's what these 317 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: people should be working on, making the cost of living 318 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: more affordable. Call a special session for that. Great. Maybe 319 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: you wouldn't get any complaints about that, but this is 320 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: utterly ridiculous and people see through it. 321 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they should be representing us and right now they're 322 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: representing themselves. 323 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: Uh okay, So let's take a break. When we come back. 324 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: State Representative Kyle Miller, he's a Democrat from Fort Wayne, 325 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: is going to join us. We're going to talk about 326 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: where kind of the tea leaves are being read, like, 327 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: where are they at? Where does he think this is going? 328 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: Do the Republicans have the vote to do this? What 329 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: is this trip to Washington, DC? 330 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: Mean? 331 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: We'll get into all that and morning we come back. 332 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: It's Kennilly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 333 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: Casey. You may have heard a think or true about 334 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: your districts. 335 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: Think the state of India a thing or two and 336 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: then plenty on. 337 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: Top of that. 338 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: Yes, the battle wages on to see if we will 339 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: have a battle. That's where we're at Indiana government. There's 340 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: a battle to see if there will be a battle. 341 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: The last that I heard was that Governor Braun was 342 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: still undecisive. 343 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: It's just just for everything, right, Governor Braun undecisive. Yeah. 344 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: Joining us now at a talker districting on the WIBC 345 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: hotline Indiana State Representative Kyle Miller. He is a Democrat 346 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: from the Fort Wayne area. 347 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 6: Kyle, Hello, good morning, thanks for having me on. I 348 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 6: appreciate it all right. 349 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: So obviously the Republicans kind of control the cards on this, 350 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: but there seemed to be a handful of Republicans who 351 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: you the Democrats can well, it's sort of how we 352 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: feel in this show talks some sense into what's the 353 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: lay of the land. How's it look right now from 354 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: your perspective? 355 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, well, I mean things are kind of up 356 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 6: in the air right now. We don't quite know whether 357 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 6: will even be in a special session or what our 358 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 6: strategy will be. We do have, you know, Republicans that 359 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 6: are coming out against redistricting, which I think is a 360 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 6: smart move. I don't think it pulls well. And the 361 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 6: majority of Hoosiers don't want this. It's it's kind of 362 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 6: a lost cause. And so you know, for us on 363 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 6: the Democratic side, we obviously have strong feelings about this, 364 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 6: and we're looking for Republicans that honestly will stand up 365 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 6: and have that backbone and say this is not something 366 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 6: we should be doing mid decade. 367 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 1: How do those conversations go, because I think I look 368 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: at it as the districts are already pretty jerrymandered. Fifty 369 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: eight percent of people have voted Republican last time, Seventy 370 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: eight percent of the seat are the congressional seats are Republicans. 371 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: Seventy percent of the House state out seats are Republican, 372 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: eighty percent of the Senate seats are a Republican. Like, 373 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: how do those conversations go from your perspective to try 374 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: to talk sense, for lack of a better term, into 375 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: enough people to say, hey, it's already pretty much rigged 376 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: in your favor. 377 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, absolutely, you know, honestly, Uh, you wouldn't. You 378 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 6: wouldn't know it day to day. But we actually get 379 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 6: along really well both sides in the legislature. We disagree 380 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 6: on on big issues, of course, but in general we're 381 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 6: able to build those relationships and have those conversations. I 382 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 6: think one of the conversations I've had in my you know, 383 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 6: three short years in the legislature is that while publicly 384 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 6: the Republicans love the supermajority, privately it causes a lot 385 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 6: of issues for them. They tend to they tend to 386 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 6: have to play to their their far right flank, and uh, 387 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 6: you know, I bet if you asked Speaker of Houston 388 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 6: or or pro tem Bray, they tell you the same 389 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 6: thing that you know, super majority is not good for democracy, 390 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 6: It's not good for good legislation, and so I think 391 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 6: that's our our our pitch to our fellow colleagues is 392 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 6: is just, you know, how much more red do you 393 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 6: want it to be? We're not getting good legislation out 394 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 6: of the out of the legislature. We're not we're not 395 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 6: getting the collaboration that comes with a closer uh, you know, 396 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 6: fifty to fifty split in in the House or the Senate. 397 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 6: And so, you know, we have some of those members 398 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 6: that are starting to understand that are starting to come 399 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 6: out against redistricting. Now we've seen, you know, a couple 400 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 6: of them flip, which is concerning for those of us 401 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 6: that don't. 402 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: Want to Kyle real quick, I mean to cut you off, 403 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: but Kyle, Kyle Miller's our guest. He's a Democrat state 404 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: representative from Fort Wayne. Like guys that just lied right 405 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: to our face, like Craig Haggard, Do you now point 406 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: at those guys and laugh when you see them in 407 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: the halls of the state. Does I mean that's just 408 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: some habitual, pathological level of lying, right? How do you 409 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: even work with people like Craig Haggard's. 410 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 6: It's so awkward honestly for them and presents us with 411 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 6: a great messaging opportunity because I kind of mentally, you know, 412 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 6: as I'm doing Chorge or something, I'll kind of mentally 413 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 6: go over any floor speeches I want to give on 414 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 6: the topic if we get that far, and and that's 415 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 6: one of them. Like I can I can point to 416 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 6: your tweets, I can point to what you've said publicly. 417 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 6: You know, the smart play would be just to not 418 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 6: say anything or come out with a neutral statement. But 419 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: but now you're on record, and now you have to 420 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 6: flip flop, and that looks terrible on you, and so yeah, 421 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 6: it is, it is. It's it's interesting that so many 422 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 6: are coming out against it. And and then you know, 423 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 6: there if they if we go into a special session, 424 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 6: and if they have to vote yes, which again you know, 425 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 6: part of the I will say there are very few 426 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 6: benefits of being in the super minority, but one of 427 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 6: them is that we're not really beholden to our chair 428 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 6: our chairmanships and and uh and and leadership, and our 429 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 6: leadership kind of gives us the leeway to do what 430 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 6: we need to do. They don't have that on the 431 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 6: on the Republican side. You know, if they don't vote 432 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 6: the way that the speaker may want them to. They've 433 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 6: they've got a lot at stake, and so Kyle, can 434 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 6: you yeah. 435 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: Can you speak on that a little bit more because 436 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: you're saying you're in the UH majority minority, so you 437 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: can do what you want. 438 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: What is it like though, when you are in. 439 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: The majority and you know your your leadership doesn't even 440 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 3: want to do it. 441 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's uh, it's such a tough position for for 442 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 6: the speaker to be in because I think that I 443 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 6: think the Governor Brown would call a special session tomorrow 444 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 6: if he could, because you know, the attentions on him 445 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 6: and and and Indiana, and that's what he wants, and 446 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 6: he'd be all over national news. But I think I 447 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 6: think UH Speaker Houston and and pro Tem Bray know 448 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 6: that the arrows are pointed back at them, right, They're 449 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 6: going to be the ones that take the hit on this, 450 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 6: and their members are going to take the hit on this, 451 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 6: because even if we even if we redistrict something, how 452 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 6: can you break up the seventh district with Andre Carson 453 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 6: and not make the districts around them more competitive? And 454 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 6: so you know, you're really shooting yourself in the shooting 455 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 6: yourself in the foot here by by creating more competitive districts. 456 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 6: And you're right, the majority of the House members, I 457 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 6: would say, don't even want this. But you know, the 458 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 6: legislators are off to d C to talk to Trump today, 459 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 6: and I imagine that's a that's a tough place to 460 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 6: be in. And so I have to imagine that they're 461 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 6: feeling a lot of consternation today with the position that 462 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 6: not only the President, but Governor Brown has has kind 463 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 6: of put them in. 464 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Miller is our guest. He is a Democrat representative 465 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: from Fort Wayne. We're talking about redistricting, proposed redistricting in 466 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: the state of Indiana. Okay, Kyle, So we're on your 467 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: team here. We're team the elections are already rigg alone. 468 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: We're fine with whatever seven to two. Here's the thing, though, 469 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: little Little Life advice to you guys from Uncle Robin 470 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: aunt Casey. Y'all got to get more competitive in these elections. Right. 471 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: This is part of the problem is that the Democrat 472 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: brand nationally is so bad that people are like, well, 473 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: give us whatever whatever it takes, not having any more Democrats. 474 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: How do you guys get more competitive so that these 475 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: districts get more competitive. You guys start winning some races 476 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: which we're cheering for. We agree with you, the super 477 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: majorities are awful. How do you guys get more competitive? 478 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? Absolutely, I listen. Won't you won't hear me say 479 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 6: that we're in a good position as as national Democrats 480 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 6: or or just Democrats in general. We're in a tough spot. 481 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 6: What we're selling the past couple of years people have 482 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 6: not been buying. I think what we need to get 483 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 6: back to is really letting people know what we stand 484 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 6: for at a at a at a ground level. How 485 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 6: do how do the policies that we're pushing affect you 486 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 6: on an everyday basis? So childcare access, healthcare access, you know, 487 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 6: good quality schools for our kids to go to. These 488 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 6: are the messages that we should be pounding every single day. 489 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 6: And that comes with that comes not only with a 490 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 6: message that resonates across the board, right as Democrats, so 491 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 6: often we have different messages and and you know, the 492 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 6: national message may may conflict or may not be on 493 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 6: the same page as state and it's we're kind of 494 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 6: all over the board. And so I think we need 495 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 6: to get our messaging straight and figure out those three 496 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 6: to five things that really just resonate with people, but 497 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 6: it comes from having good candidates too that can articulate 498 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 6: those ideas, right, And so I think we need to 499 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 6: do a much better job of articulating our vision. And 500 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 6: we have not as Democrats, done that in the past, 501 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 6: in the in the recent past, and so I think 502 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 6: that that's I think that's our path forward is we've 503 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 6: got to hit the doors. We've got to go into 504 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 6: into spaces where where we may not be welcome, where 505 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 6: we may not always show up right and and let 506 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 6: those people know that, you know, while while we're in 507 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 6: the position we're in, we are still fighting for you 508 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 6: as a as a House Democratic caucus, as a Senate 509 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 6: Democratic caucus. These are our issues that matter to you. 510 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 6: And here's how we're here's how we're fighting for you 511 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 6: at the state House. 512 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: Kyle, you say all that, but I have a question 513 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 3: for you, because there were a few times, especially during session, 514 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: when the Democrat caucus would walk away and started singing 515 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: songs in the state House. Do you think that that 516 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: resonates with your voters? 517 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 7: No? 518 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 6: Absolutely, no, I you know there there have been so 519 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 6: many things that I think that we have tried to 520 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 6: do or or the strategy has been something and I, 521 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 6: you know, after the twenty after the twenty four election, 522 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 6: I felt this personally that the strategies that we're using, 523 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 6: the things that we're doing are not connecting with people, 524 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 6: and so we need a different direction. We need to 525 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 6: start doing things differently. It's not going to be effective 526 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 6: for us to continue doing the same things that we've 527 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 6: always done. And and quite honestly, if we are, we 528 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 6: should expect the same results. Yeah, and so we do. 529 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, You've been feeling this way most you know, in 530 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: Indiana for a while, because Indiana has long been a 531 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: red stay. But it seems that the tables are somewhat 532 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 3: turned on the national stage. Democrats have been in power 533 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: for a long time, or at least the presidency. Does that, 534 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: you know, feel different to you now? 535 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 6: Does does what feel different? 536 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Well? 537 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: That there's just more Republican majority. 538 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 6: Sure, of course. And and and to the Republicans credit again, 539 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 6: they've they've sold their vision for what they want to do, 540 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 6: and that's not something that we have done. And you're right, 541 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 6: we kind of squandered those those opportunities in the past. 542 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 6: And so I do think while we're in the position 543 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 6: we're in, while while Republicans right now are kind of 544 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 6: power drunk. Especially with this redistricting talk. It presents us 545 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 6: Democrats a real opportunity to excuse me, to coalesce and 546 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 6: to figure out our message and to move forward with 547 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 6: that and kind of let go of we try to 548 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 6: be too big a tent a party and and I 549 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 6: think that's failed us a lot. There's there's a way 550 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 6: to be compassionate to everybody. There's a way to bring 551 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 6: people in without having to stand for everything. And I 552 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 6: think that you know, if if if I can be 553 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 6: critical of Democrats, I think that's I think that's something 554 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 6: that we've done in the past, is we've we've tried 555 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 6: to stand for so much we actually haven't stood for anything. 556 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 6: And I think we need to get back to that. 557 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: Kyle, before I let you go, if you had to 558 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: make a wager right now, will we have a special 559 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: session on redistricting? And if we do, will it pass? 560 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 6: I believe that we will have a special session. I 561 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 6: think with us seeing the flips that we're seeing, it's 562 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,719 Speaker 6: it's it's becoming more and more likely. And uh and 563 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 6: I go back and forth on whether I think it'll pass. 564 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 6: Initially I would say yes, because again, you know who's 565 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 6: going to vote against the president, who's going to vote 566 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 6: against h on record, vote against the governor. And so 567 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 6: initially I think it'll pass, but I'm really hoping that 568 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 6: we can talk some sense into some of the more 569 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 6: moderate members of the House Republican Caucus and uh and 570 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 6: see if we can defeat it. 571 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Miller, he's a Democrat representative from Fort Wayne. Thank 572 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: you for your time and good luck. 573 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 6: Appreciate you both, Thanks so much. 574 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Kendilly Casey. On ninety three WIBC. 575 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: People remain up in arms over the Cracker Barrel logo. 576 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: Yes, they do, Cracker Bear, Cracker Barrel. 577 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: They revealed their new redesigned logo last week's part of 578 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: their broader rebranding, but they removed the barrel and the 579 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 3: man along with the phrase old country store from the logo, 580 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 3: and people are really upset that Uncle Herschel was that 581 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: his name. 582 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: With the guy's name, the guys sitting on the chair 583 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: with the barrel in front of Okay, so a couple 584 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: things with this, by the way, it's like had massive 585 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: impact on Cracker Barrel. They the stock was down almost 586 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in one day and people are outraged. Now, 587 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: a couple things with this. First of all, why did 588 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: they change the logo? Like, I don't understand what I mean, 589 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: there's nothing about this logo that is big or bold 590 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: or impressive or you know, it's not. It's like, I 591 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: don't even understand why they went to all this effort 592 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: to do this. 593 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: They're trying to modernize their brand. 594 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: But why Cracker Barrel seems like it sort of as 595 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: a built. 596 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: In kind of how does its thing already? 597 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: It just does what it does, right, so you don't 598 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: you don't really have to do any I mean, I'm 599 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: not saying you never have to do anything, but I'm saying, 600 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: in terms of the core thing of what we do, 601 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: it just seemed like there was a large risk and 602 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: no reward. 603 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they removed the personality. 604 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 7: From it, right, sure, And there's what makes it different unique, 605 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 7: And there's also this at plays like Cracker Barrel, I 606 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 7: think a big part of it is comfort that you 607 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 7: will go to the Cracker Barrel and you will have 608 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 7: the same sort of experience that you add as a 609 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 7: depending on your age as a child, or that if. 610 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: You're an older adult you had as a younger adult 611 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: and generations experienced the same thing together, right, Like it 612 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: just sort of does that thing, and messing with the 613 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: logos seems like just a disastrous way to upset the 614 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: feeling of the restaurant itself. So why would you do it? 615 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, this really caught so much attention, and that's like 616 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 3: why this time? Because this is the fifth logo change 617 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 3: in the company's history. 618 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: They've done this before. 619 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: Do you say when the last one was? 620 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: No, I don't have that because I don't recall. 621 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean this current logo. I bet keV if you 622 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: were to look up history of Cracker Barrel logo change change, 623 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: see the evolution over times. Let me see it. I'll 624 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: do in real time history of Cracker Barrel logo. 625 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: Cracker Barrel was founded in nineteen sixty nine. They have 626 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 3: six hundred and sixty locations across the US. So they 627 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 3: put on a message yesterday and they reaffirmed their commitment 628 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: to comfort, community and country hospitality, and they said, we 629 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: know we don't always get everything right the first time. However, 630 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: they do want to preserve some of their traditions like 631 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: the rocking chairs on the porch, the fireplaces, the peg games, 632 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: the country store antiques and some of their signature menu items. 633 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: And they do say that. 634 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 3: Uncle Herschel, who's the character from the old logo, he's 635 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 3: going to appear on the menus and still in stores. 636 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: I got, I got okay, I got him. 637 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: You got the history. 638 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, this logo chair, that's amazing. How did you do? 639 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean it looks like okay, so from sixty nine 640 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: to seventy seven, there was no guy. It was just 641 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: like block lettering, and then the guy shows up in 642 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: seventy seven, and the guy has been a part of 643 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: everything until. 644 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: Since seventy seven. 645 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: Now, okay, Now the only thing that I see different 646 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: is like the font of the cracker barrel. Like seventy 647 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: seven to oh so thirty years there was no change, 648 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: and then they've changed, like the font a little bit, 649 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: like the both of the old country store and then 650 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: the thing around the cracker barrel. But the guy has 651 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: been a part of it since seventy seven, So you're 652 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: going on fifty years of the guy being in there 653 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: being the central part of the things, all right. So 654 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: that's one side of it, like why would you touch 655 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: the thing if something's not working in your restaurant. It's 656 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: not the guy like nobody was the logo nobody was 657 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: driving down the interstate was like, well maybe, but Uncle 658 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: Herschel's there, so we kind of tired of him, Like 659 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: nobody was going to do that. That's horrible. The other thing, though, is, 660 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: and this infuriates me. I wish people were this angry 661 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: about their government right. 662 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: So many people are outraged by this. 663 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: And I saw somebody comment on social media the other day, 664 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: I just don't have the time to care about the 665 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: cracker barrel logo. 666 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: Well no, and why and like why would you write 667 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: either you like it? I mean, ultimately, you can either 668 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: eat there or not. You can opt in or opt 669 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: out of cracker barrel. Choice is yours. You can't opt 670 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: in or opt out of the government. The same argument 671 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: that I've had for years, which is, if some well 672 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: meaning high school kids screws up your order in the 673 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: Taco Bell drive through line, people sprint to the tawny 674 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: chatterboard and talk about how Aaron who is a sophomore 675 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: has ruined your evening, but they won't say one damn 676 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: word about the just too numerous to name abuses of government, 677 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: Like like, I've never understood this about things that drive 678 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: people that are largely irrelevant, like cracker barrel is mostly 679 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: irrelevant to your daily existence. I mean, unless you used 680 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: to spend every Christmas and Thanksgiving getting you know, a 681 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: curbsite order at the cracker barrel, Like what actual? I mean, 682 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: sure you have memories there, but there's nothing about that 683 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: logo changing that would ultimately alter your existence. Government uses you, 684 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: abuses you, lies to you, manipulates you, takes from you, 685 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 1: give takes the money from you and gives it to 686 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: their cronies and their and their buddies and their donors. 687 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: And you're not going to say a word about that. 688 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: But you're gonna move heaven and Earth over the cracker 689 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: barrel logo. What the heck casey? 690 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: I think because the cracker barrel logo is easy to understand. 691 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: You can see, so. 692 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: Is legalized theft by the government. 693 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 3: But people don't think that. They feel like there's nothing 694 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: that I can do. I mean, you vote, it doesn't matter. 695 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: You think you're voting conservative, you vote red, you vote Republican, 696 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: you're still paying higher taxes. But with the cracker barrel logo, 697 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: you can look at it and say I like that. 698 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: I don't like that. 699 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: Really, that's it. I mean, we really do think it's 700 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: that some point we once were so motivated about good 701 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: government we went to war over it. In fact, we've 702 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: actually done that twice in our nation's history in terms 703 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: of on this soil, gone to war twice over at 704 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: both the Revolution and civil wars. But now we can't 705 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: even get people, we get people more angry about the 706 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: logo said you have a choice. 707 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: To opt in or opt out of cracker barrel. 708 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 3: When it comes to government, you don't have a choice 709 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 3: to opt out. 710 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: All right. Something we do have a choice to do 711 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: is take a giant dump on Todd Rokita and had 712 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 1: an awful day yesterday, and I'm not ever gonna miss 713 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: a chance to do that. 714 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.