1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Here's a fascinating statement from Little League Baseball and we've 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: got to explore it. It's kindle a Casey show. I'm 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: Rob Casey's out today. Jerry Lopez in for Casey. keV 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: is here. So the Little League World Series is going 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: on now in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, and you got the League 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Softball World Series going on. 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: And I was I. 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: Thought at first when I saw this, this was like 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: one of those parody accounts or which is very hard 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: on Twitter. But I mean, apparently this is the real, 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: the real Delio at a little League on Twitter. So 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: this is the real, This is the real account. So 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: the statement says, while Little League International continues to monitor 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: the complexity and ever evolving world of sports betting, we 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: feel strongly that they're there is no place for betting 16 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: on Little League games, or on any youth sports competition. 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: Little League is a trusted place where children are learning 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: the fundamentals of the games and all the important life 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: lessons that come with having funs, celebrating teamwork, and playing 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: with integrity. And no one should be exploiting the success 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: and feelures of children playing the game they love for 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: their own personal gain. Okay, A lot to get to 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: on that, Jerry. First of all, why did they feel 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: the need to put that out if they weren't concerned 25 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: that somebody somewhere was betting on a little league baseball. 26 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: Listen, if I can find who's running that, I will 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: take little Johnny to have. 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: Two bases in Hawaii to win by running a half. 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: I mean you would. 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: There's no way you're betting on a twelve year old, 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean would I Yeah. 32 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: Here's the problem is, like, like we've seen now with 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 3: professional athleteop are crazy. 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: Sports betters are crazy. 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: And when Kevin Durant misses a free throw to put 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 3: him at thirty points, he gets death threats. What happens 37 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: to these kids when something happens and some knucklehead put 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars on. 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 2: A stupid game. 40 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: Well, you're right, and there has to be I mean, look, 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who have very serious gambling addictions, 42 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: and those people need help. And obviously, look, I love 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: sports betting. I do a podcast on it every week 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: with Jason Hammer the Degenerates next Door. 45 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: But you wouldn't bet on on little league baseball. 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 1: There is a limit to things that I would bet 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: on what about high school football because there was no 48 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: college is where you draw a line. Look, if a 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: guy's getting paid, I'm betting on I'm okay betting right. 50 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean, like the nil if they got if you 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: got access to whatever, I think, that's where I'm drawing 52 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: the line on that. I mean, there's something it just 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean not just because it feels, because it is. 54 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: There's something off. And we'll get into this hammer when 55 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: he comes in. I'll be fascinated to see. You're not 56 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: saying you would literally do this if you could, would 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: you you would literally if? 58 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 3: I mean listen, if I put on ESPN and it's 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: North Carolina versus Louisiana and it's zero zero, and I 60 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 3: can go to FanDuel and take Louisiana for some reason, 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: just to watch, I wouldn't treat it just like a 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: regular football game. 63 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: The twelve Jerry and the twelve. I don't care who wins. 64 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: I just want to watch for a reason. 65 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: You can't watch little League baseball for the joy of 66 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: watching little kids play youth baseball at a high level. 67 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: You get any any Americans and there's no steals there. 68 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: It's a completely different game than regular baseball. 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: Coach. 70 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, look, I under I totally understand that if 71 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: you're saying, like, hey, the only thing on tonight is hockey, 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: and I don't know anything about hockey, and I need 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: a reason to kill the Kraken, right, Like, I get that. 74 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: But those are grown adult men. 75 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: Some of these kids are grown I don't know if 76 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: you've seen them. They made Daniel Monte was like twenty seven, 77 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: that's right, he was like twenty. 78 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: Seven playing base. 79 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 3: But what's that benchwarmers where you had that piece of 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: pavements that I am twelve? 81 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: Well, I mean obviously, look, you've had teams that have 82 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: had was a Taiwan that one year that had there 83 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: in the early nineties the championship strip from them because 84 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: they determined those kids were much older. 85 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: But they weren't adults. They were like sixteen. 86 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were like fifteen or sixteen year old. I 87 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: thin little League is twelve? You so twelve and unders? 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: Right? 89 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the main one, the thing that's on the on 90 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: the the in Williamsport. 91 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: I'm betting on it. 92 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: Well, you can't bet on that yet, but they're thinking 93 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: about it. Why they put it out? That is also 94 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: what happens if the coach. Is it like that creates 95 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: a whole lot of issue. 96 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: This is my point. 97 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: If we get ever get to the point where they 98 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: legalize betting on twelve year olds, we might as well 99 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: just all. 100 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: The coaches are getting arrested. Pack it in as a society. 101 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we might as well just we might as 102 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: well just call it a life and say. 103 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: I mean, do you bet on grown men eating hot dogs? Yes? 104 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: Yes you do, Yes you do. 105 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: It's a grown Well I didn't, Hammer Dan, I just 106 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm not. 107 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: I'm not that interested enough in it, like my bed. 108 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: Because they're kids. That's why you have the issue. 109 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: Hammer and I view betting very different. And we've talked 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: about this, like I will I really just bet on 111 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: two things primarily now football and golf, because I just 112 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: don't have time with a two year old. Like I 113 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: used to have all sorts of time, Like I could 114 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 1: bet on things because I had the time to get 115 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: interested in them. 116 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: I don't have time anymore. Like I don't. I don't 117 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: have a free two hours and betting on kids stuff. 118 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: Man, No, like put two kids together having crawl, put 119 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: ten bucks on the winter, I do that. Like go 120 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: to the you go to the pacer game and they 121 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: put the mom on one side, the kid crawls. I'm like, 122 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 3: give me twenty bucks on the third one with the 123 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: red pants. You're not that bad, are you. 124 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the most you've ever lost anything on 125 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: a single bed, on a single bet. 126 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: So I this was years ago. 127 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: We're talking ten years ago, which would tell you something. Yeah, 128 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: I ran up a really big pot, and I think 129 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: you ran up a really like I maybe started with 130 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: one hundred bucks and I got to like fifteen hundred dollars. 131 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: Oh, because you kept winning. 132 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And then I think I put I'll never 133 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: forget the game I had IU against North Carolina and 134 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: it might have been an IU and I had EYEU 135 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: to win. 136 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 2: I put a thousand bucks on and they lost. Oh wow. 137 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'm sick, and like a true degenerate, I'm like, 138 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: I'm still up four. It's like the stock market, right, 139 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: I started with one, but that changed everything for me 140 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: because it was just gone. 141 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, this sucks. 142 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, even though it was money that you never had 143 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: to begin with. 144 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: It's I did have it. I did withdraw. 145 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's my point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thousand that's 146 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: a that's. 147 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: That'd be a rough. Oh, it's horrible, that'd be a rough. 148 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: I kind of stopped betting big on after that, bigtime. 149 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: I mean, and now I think it's all rigged. Man, Well, 150 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: and this is and we should have Matt Bear. You're 151 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 3: with me next week, right. 152 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: Yep, Monday Tuesday. Yeah, so we should. 153 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: Have maybe why Matt Bear or Ryan Hendrick come on 154 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: and talk about the idea of the addictive personality because 155 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: they have these supporting sobriety podcast and look, addiction is addiction. 156 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: And one of the things, one of the things I 157 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: had to recognize, and as you get older you do 158 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: is some people just have addictive personalities. And part of 159 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: being an adult is to recognize, Hey, if I have 160 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: a tendency for whatever, and I'm going to participate in society, oh. 161 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: Whatever, the thing is, I got to put up. 162 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: Like serious guardrails around myself and just recognizing that, like, 163 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: I have an addictive personality that I've always just I 164 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: think I bet twenty dollars one time on something. Way, 165 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: most of your bets are like, oh buck two bunks, 166 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 167 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: I mean, like I am in my account for the 168 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: past two years I'm up. 169 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: An impressive amount given most of my bets are one 170 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: or two dollars, Like I think I'm up like fifty 171 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: bucks in my account or forty bucks in my account 172 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: over two years, which I did any better would be 173 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: up as impressive. If I bet real money, it would 174 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: be like a sizeable amount. 175 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: But you'd lose them if you put in real money. 176 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: Well, that's right, But I also recognized, like it would 177 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: not be fun for me, Like I could bet ten 178 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: cents on something get the same joy whether it was 179 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: one hundred dollars or ten cents. 180 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: It's the pride of winning. Yes, it's the play you 181 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: figured out. 182 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: I still want to bet, but I'm gonna put on 183 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: the guardrails that say, look, we're just gonna bet a 184 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 3: buck because I'm still gonna get excited. 185 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: Right. 186 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: And then the other thing that that did for me 187 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: by never betting real money is I bet a lot 188 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: less because it's like if I bet on something, I 189 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: have to watch it, and it's. 190 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 2: Like, well if there's some game and I don't care 191 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: about it. 192 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: And I was just before I was married and had 193 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: a kid, I was like betting on things to get 194 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: and they would fully invest in it. If I don't 195 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: do that, they don't even have to watch the thing. 196 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: That's so, I just save myself three hours. But you buddy, I. 197 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: Watch it all. Yeah yeah, I literally watch it all. 198 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: I need to go to uh Jason Hammer School of 199 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: No Parlays. 200 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was. Really soccer bets, brother, those 201 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 2: are sucker bets.