1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Line from Vaal Hartliner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Allow me to share a story with 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: you that doesn't matter at all. Oh don't worry. I'm 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: going to share stories that do matter. But I've got 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: a reason. You gotta trust me on this. Tony Katz, 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today, what's going on? Good to be with you? 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: Eight three three four six eight eight six sixty nine 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: eight three three got Tony, Good to be with you? 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: Good to be heavier. As part of the of the show, 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: there's the former governor lieutenant governor of Georgia. Former lieutenant 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: governor of Georgia. His name is Jeff Duncan, and he 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: announced that he is leaving the Republican Party and joining 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. This is a non story. He was 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: a lieutenant governor as a Republican twenty nineteen through twenty 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: twenty three. This all has to do with the twenty 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: twenty presidential election and what took place in Georgia. Trump's 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: ire at Georgia and how he responded to it. Because 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: of his actions, he was, let's call it a excommunicated 19 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: from the Republican Party and he decided not to run 20 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: for reelections attenant governor in twenty twenty two. He was 21 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: in the Georgia House from twenty thirteen until twenty seventeen, 22 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: and is now saying, my journey to becoming a Democrat 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: started well before Donald Trump tried to steal the twenty 24 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: twenty election in Georgia. There's no date on a calendar 25 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: or line in the sand that points to the exact 26 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: moment in time my political heart changed, but it has. 27 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: My decision was centered around my daily struggle to love 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: my neighbor as a Republican. Oh okay, So you didn't 29 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: become a Democrat because you still want to have a 30 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: play in politics, and this was an opportunity for you 31 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: to get some easy points to increase your Q rating. 32 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: You became a Democrat because it weighed on your heart. 33 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: Oh okay, No one believes you. Brian Kemp, the governor, 34 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: took massive hits. Brian Kemp then won reelection with huge numbers. 35 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, twenty twenty was a messed up election. 36 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: I think we have seen proof of this at this point. 37 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't argue that Joe Biden was elected. I do 38 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: question eighty one million votes and asking questions and saying 39 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: how come you did this, that or the other. Wasn't 40 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world to say that you 41 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: it committed some level of fraud. I would have no 42 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: proof of that. I have no problem with you fighting 43 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: back on that. But even Kemp, who took the hits 44 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: and hit back, Trump realized he wasn't going to do 45 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: well in Georgia if he didn't have Kemp on his 46 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: side in twenty twenty four, because Kemp was more popular 47 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: than Trump was. This is Georgia. Go back and look 48 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: at the numbers. Don't don't you look at me like that? 49 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: Oh I got this one cold. You didn't leave because 50 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: of Trump, and you didn't leave because of your heart. 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: Your heart told you. It was hard to love thy 52 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: neighbor as a Republican. Better to do it as somebody 53 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: who thinks everybody's a racist. Everyone is a bigot, and 54 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: let's abort it if it moves. It was easier to 55 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: love your neighbor that way. It was easier to say, Okay, 56 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: you're a trans child. I prove that I'm loving because 57 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: I accept you, as opposed to looking at the child 58 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: and saying you're a boy. Your parents love you, we're 59 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: your parents we love you. Let's talk about this. We're 60 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: not gonna do anything rash. We're not gonna do anything drastic. 61 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: You are still a child, and we're gonna protect you. 62 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: You thought the other way, the Democrat way, was more loving. 63 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: Rip the child from the parents, pump the child full 64 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: of hormones, puberty blockers, chemical castration, and then engage in 65 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: actual mutilation with top or bottom surgery and call it 66 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: gender affirming care. That's the loving. A good Lord, you 67 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: will not be missed. Boo boo. There's nothing about you too, 68 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: miss all the best in this uh newfound life that 69 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: you that you think you're gonna have. No, really, I'm sure, 70 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's gonna sure, it's gonna work out. Just greatlation. God, 71 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: people are people are something they are. But you'll see 72 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: Democrats look at this and cheer. They're like, yeah, we 73 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: got another one, and this is so great. There's there's 74 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: nothing here, just like there's nothing of about what we're 75 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: seeing regarding the redistricting in Texas. And I say this 76 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: as the Vice President is in Indiana today and there's 77 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: a conversation about redistricting right here in Indiana. And now 78 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: there's a conversation about Nebraska another place that's getting fascinating. 79 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: And Ken Martin, the head of the DNC, was on 80 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: Fox Today being asked questions regarding what's going on with 81 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: Texas Democrats who have fled to Illinois. Right, they won't 82 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: do their job. They're protecting democracy by not actually engaging 83 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: their job as elected officials. They fled to Illinois, and 84 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: somehow we're supposed to believe that they're heroes. 85 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: What do you know? 86 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: Well, look, I think the Texas House Dems are going 87 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: to do everything they can continue to fight against these illegal, 88 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: unconstitutional acts of Governor Greg Abbott, Ken Paxton and others 89 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: in Texas. That means staying out as long as they 90 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: possibly can. This is just some sort of stunt. I mean, 91 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: this requires everyone at this point, not just Texas Dems, 92 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 3: but people throughout this country who are quite outraged at 93 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: this illegal power grab by Donald Trump and Greg Abbott. 94 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: There's nothing illegal about what is happening here. Nothing that's 95 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: a lie. That is a lie, and it needs to 96 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: be said, it's not illegal. Now, I'll keep listening to 97 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: it because Dana Perno's doing the interview. Like Dana a 98 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: lot appreciated. Always times I've been on our show. You 99 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: have to wish back. There's nothing illegal here. There is 100 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: nothing illegal about what is happening. You are allowed to redistrict. 101 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: There is nothing here that Republicans have done that is 102 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: a violation of the law. In the slightest It's a lie. 103 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: It is a lie from the Democratic Party. Well, I mean, 104 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: what else could it be. Let's see what Dana says. 105 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: Okay, they went to Illinois. We showed you that map 106 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: of the very extremely Gerrymandard of situation there in Illinois 107 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: g F grade from the Princeton Jerry Mandarin project. You mentioned, 108 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: you said it was illegal. We asked Governor Texas, Texas 109 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: Governor Greg Abbott about that on Monday. 110 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: Here's what he said. Why now Two reasons. 111 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: A court decision affecting Texas came out and said that 112 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: coalition districts are no longer required and it's perfectly legal 113 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: to dismantle coalition districts. The second is jerry Mandarin can 114 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: be done or drawing lines can be done on the 115 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: basis of political makeup, and there's nothing illegal about that. 116 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 4: And then when you look at the outcome of the 117 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: most recent presidential election, all these districts that are being 118 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: added are districts that were won by Trump. 119 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: Now, good on data for being the actual reporter here. 120 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: There's nothing illegal about it. Going to Greg Abbott on 121 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: this now, not an expert on coalitions, but there's nothing illegal. 122 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: Why in the world is the Democrats saying this? 123 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: Are you concerned overalls the of the DNC that part 124 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: of the reason Democrats are up in arms about the 125 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: Texas redistricting is that the Tino voters had been going 126 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: towards the Trump coalition and voting that way. 127 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: Look, Greg Abbott is absolutely wrong and what he just 128 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: said there it is unconstitutional. Let me be very clear 129 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: on this data. The Constitution provides for a once every 130 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: ten year desennial census and then the state legislatures are 131 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: supposed to draw the lines after that. It does not 132 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: allow for a mid cycle redistricting at all. 133 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: In any case, that's not the case. We know that 134 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: mid decade redistricting is rare, but it is not illegal. 135 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: It is not unconstitutional at all. It is fine, and 136 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: there's nothing that states when it happens. I don't believe 137 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: there's anything that states whether or not a redistrict has 138 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: to happen at a certain time. It does not prevent 139 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: any state from redistricting at any time between the census. 140 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Between those two censuses, censes SENSI, whatever it is, it's fine, 141 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: it's solid. Now to something I don't have an answer 142 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: for Trump calling for a new census. So the census 143 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: is done every ten years according to the US Constitution. Right, 144 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: that's how it happens. It doesn't happen because you willing 145 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: nearly throw it in. It happens because the Constitution says 146 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: it has to happen. Article one, Section two of the 147 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: United States Constitution. The House of Representatives shall be composed 148 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: of members chosen every second year by the people of 149 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: the several States, and the elector in each state shall 150 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous 151 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: branch of the state legislature. No person shall be a 152 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: representative who shall not have attain the age of twenty 153 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: five years and been seven years a citizen of the 154 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an 155 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: inhabitant of that state in which he shall be chosen. Right, 156 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: So those things we know, representatives and direct taxes shall 157 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: be apportioned among the several states which may be included 158 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: within this Union, and to their number respective number which 159 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: shall be determined by adding to the whole number of 160 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: free persons, including those bound to service for a term 161 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of 162 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: all other persons. So this is where the whole three 163 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: fifths conversation comes in, which was a conversation about ensuring 164 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: that the South didn't have as much power by counting slaves. 165 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: The actual enumeration shall be made within three years after 166 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, 167 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: and within within every subsequent term of ten years, in 168 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: such manner as they shall direct by law. Now here's 169 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: where it gets interesting. And within every subsequent term of 170 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: ten years. Does that mean that you can do it 171 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: multiple times? It's not every ten years. It is within 172 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: the ten years of the last census. So and so 173 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: if I did the census, let's say in twenty twenty, 174 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: we can do it in twenty twenty five. Now we 175 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: don't have to wait till twenty thirty. And I'm reading it, 176 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: I'm going over it, and it states the actual enumeration 177 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: shall be made within three years after the first meeting 178 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: of the Congress of the United States, and within every 179 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: subsequent term of ten years in such manner as they 180 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: shall buy law direct. So maybe it could happen, But 181 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: the question is what does the law say about the census. 182 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: Maybe it could happen in a five years time. So 183 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: we go back to Trump's desire here for a new 184 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: census and putting out on truth social I've instructed our 185 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: Department of Commerce to immediately begin work on a new 186 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: and highly accurate census based on modern day facts and figures, 187 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: and importantly, using the results in information gained from the 188 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: presidential election of twenty twenty four. People who are in 189 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: our country illegally will not be counted in the census. 190 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: He put that part in capital letters, and then he 191 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: ends it with thank you for your attention to this matter, 192 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: Oh so amazing. Now I agree that people who are 193 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: in the country illegally should not be allowed to be 194 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: counted in the census. They should not be counted at all. Zero. 195 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: But let's ask ourselves what information gained from the presidential election, 196 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: because I would be someone who says, to the president, 197 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: you're talking about voters, and voters aren't the only people 198 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:08,119 Speaker 1: counted in a census. Ah, you know, right? If information 199 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: is gathered from the election, one would assume he is 200 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: referring to election information about voters, which certainly could be 201 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: very interesting. But voters are not the population. The population 202 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: is the population, and that's a different Ballwax. So I'm 203 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: not quite sure what he's going for here, And I 204 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: am not one hundred percent sure that the president can 205 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: make some level of statement of I want a new census. 206 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: I I'm not so sure he has that power. But 207 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: that said, here we are. Here, we are in a 208 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: conversation about the census, all because of what we're seeing 209 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: from Texas and how these democrats have given up the 210 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: idea of democracy. They don't know what democracy looks like. 211 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: If they did, they wouldn't be running away. They'd be 212 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: making their case for why there shouldn't be redistricting and 213 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: if they lose, they should lose like men. But that's 214 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: kind of of not what they do. That is it. 215 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: It's it's it's not what they do. So they look 216 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: like fools. They think they're strong. And now this conversation 217 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: has taking place in other places, is gonna happen to 218 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: my Indiana? I don't know. I saw that there were 219 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: some people protesting in our state house. It's it's so embarrassing. 220 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: If you ever wanted to know what astro turf looked 221 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: like there, it is. If astro turf had a photo definition, 222 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: it would look like these really old men and women 223 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: who were paid a couple of bucks to hold some 224 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: signs and be in the air conditioning. It's embarrassing. It's pathetic, 225 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: which would be part and parcel right now for the 226 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, who has no capacity to fight back. They 227 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing, they don't know what they're saying, 228 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: they don't know how to connect, they don't understand messaging. 229 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: It's just pathetic. So go on, try and tell people 230 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: that these Democrats in who are escaped to Illinois ran 231 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: away to Illinois. We shouldn't say escaped, they very very 232 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: very clearly ran away. Try and sell people on the 233 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: idea that they're heroes. Go ahead, go ahead. Meanwhile, Republicans 234 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: might find some luck in this redistricting thing. They're clearly 235 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: going down that road in other states besides Texas. I'm 236 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. A big thank 237 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: you to everybody who sent me a note or the 238 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: article from Fox that I was quoted in. You never 239 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: know when they're going to pick something up or when 240 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: they're going to share something. So it's cool, it's fun, 241 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: it's appreciated. Not the first time, I'm going to assume, 242 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: not the last time, but I do appreciate people like, Ah, 243 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: this was cool because the story is important. Tony Katz, 244 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: Tony kats today, good to be with you. The headline. 245 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: Associated Press roasted over jaw dropping story about Hesbala terrorists 246 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: struggled to recover from pager attack. This is a true 247 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: story where the Associated Press wrote an article about how 248 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: the survivors of Israel's pager attack against known terrorists, how 249 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: those survivors are struggling to recover. Oh, some people did survive, 250 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: and they were pretty well messed up, faces, injured, fingers, lost, 251 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: lost of eyesight, all these things. They're terrorists working on 252 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: killing people and killing people, and here's the Associated Press 253 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: feeling sorry for them. And the headline was survivors of 254 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Israel pager attack, survivors of Israel's page attack on Hesbelah 255 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: struggle to recover. So people were writing things and they 256 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: shared a bunch of posts from social media and Robbie Starbuck, 257 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: for example, nothing shocks me anymore with media, but this 258 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: really did. They're literally presenting Hesbela terrorists as victims, absolutely 259 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: jaw dropping. It's true. The headline read survivors of Israel's 260 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: pager attack on Hesbela struggle to recover, to which I responded, 261 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: the hostages held by Hamas struggle to survive. Where is 262 00:17:55,080 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: our focus? And the answer is, what do you mean hour? 263 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Our focus is just fine, Tony. Their focus is pretty 264 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: screwed up. They not like us. I did not realize 265 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: how right Kendrick Lamar was. They not like us. They 266 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: don't think like us, they don't act like us. They 267 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: don't appreciate America like us. They don't understand freedom like us, 268 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: and they won't recognize right and wrong like us. They 269 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: want to find ways to make you think that somehow 270 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: these bad people what you see that they're also victims. No, 271 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: they decided to be members of HESBLA. They decided to 272 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: go on killing rampages. We have to now be concerned 273 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: with what happens to them. Seems irrational. This is about 274 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: giving aid and comfort to the enemy. These are bad 275 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: people at the Associated Press, which is again just another 276 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: reason don't trust what you read. Check, double check, and recheck. 277 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: By the way, do that with me too, check, double check, 278 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: and recheck. I appreciate the faith of me. I appreciate 279 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: that you know that I do everything I can to 280 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: bring it right and then engage the commentary afterwards. But 281 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: my gosh, you're in charge of you do your own 282 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: damn homework. And my guess, based on anecdotal connections with 283 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: people listen to the show meeting people, my guesses that 284 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: you did. You've been doing your own homework your whole life, 285 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: or you just started a couple of years ago, but 286 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: you do, which I think is way better. I appreciate 287 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: Fox for sharing my post. There. Follow me on Twitter 288 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: x at Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. I 289 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: feel the same way about traders in the US as 290 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: I do as I do about Islamists. You can't live 291 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: with us, can't be done. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 292 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: good to be with you. It was a story about 293 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: a a soldier by the name of Taylor Adam Lee 294 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: who was arrested and I should say innocental, proven guilty 295 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: and all these things. Arrested on charges of attempted transmission 296 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: of national defense information to a foreign adversary. And they 297 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: also added an export of controlled technical data without a license. 298 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: This from the Department of Justice. This guy is an 299 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: active duty Army soldier Elpaso, Texas, and what he tried 300 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: to do was send classified military information on US tank 301 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: vulnerabilities to someone he believed to be a Russian intelligence officer. 302 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Now that's treason. Hang em, I don't know how that 303 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: works anymore. Are they hung or they shot? However that works, 304 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: it cannot be allowed. Now. I say this as somebody 305 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: who opposes the death penalty in a civilian life. I 306 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: found myself over the years becoming opposed to the death penalty. 307 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: And it's gonna sound weird because of its finality. And 308 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: I've always understood that the death penalty had a finality 309 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: to it. But rather what I'm opposed to is prosecution. 310 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: Prosecutors who don't share information, prosecutors who hide information, prosecutors 311 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: who manipulate information. I have a hard time trusting prosecutors 312 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: because this has happened far too often. I won't say 313 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: that it happens with regularity. I can let somebody prove 314 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: that to me if they chose to, But it happens 315 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: far too often. It happens far too often that there 316 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: are prosecutors prosecutions that don't share all the information. They're 317 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 1: so desperate for a conviction that they're willing to hide things. 318 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: And if you say to me, that's not a nice 319 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: thing to say about prosecutors, that's really painting with a 320 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: broad brush. I'm saying it happens, and it happens too 321 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: often for my liking, and if they don't like it, 322 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: that's their problem. It has led me to believe that 323 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: if we don't have proper DNA tests and other things, 324 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: the finality is simply unacceptable. There's no chance to redeem 325 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: the mistake, and we know that mistakes have been made. 326 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: I can't bring myself to do that. And this has 327 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: been you know, the idea that people don't change, Well, 328 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: that's a bunch of crap. People change. I am a 329 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: better human being now than I was in my twenties. 330 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: By far. I'm a happier human being. I am more joyous, 331 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: I have more appreciation, I act better, I perform better, 332 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: I engage, but all of it, all of it. I'm 333 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: a much different person than in my teens and in 334 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: my twenties. I've changed far for the better, and my 335 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: thoughts have as well as I've learned about things as 336 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: I've engaged things. I think one of the most embarrassing, 337 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: if not pathetic, if not self destructive things that takes 338 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: place is when people say, well, this is just who 339 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: I am and people have to accept it, And then 340 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: they say that to others, this is who you are 341 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: and people just have to accept who you are. Well, 342 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: what if who you are sucks? Why don't we ever 343 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: allow anybody to ask themselves that question or say I'm 344 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: not happy with this part of who I am. I 345 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: want to change it. I don't like this part of me, 346 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: my personality, my thought process, my attitude. I want to 347 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: change it. Just everything you are is perfect and everything 348 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: everybody else has to deal with it. That's nonsense. That 349 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: is a far cry from We're all made in God's image, right. 350 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: We may be made in an image, but maybe you 351 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: don't like what it is you see. Why can't you 352 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: go about changing that? Why shouldn't we be supportive of that? Now? 353 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: It's true, some people don't change they are who they 354 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: are who they are, But I believe that in the 355 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: main people at least can they absolutely positively can change 356 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: and and and I favor it so Over the years 357 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: I have gone from the crime as heinous deserve to 358 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: die to yes, the crime is it may may very 359 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: well behamous, very well be heinous. Sorry, but have we 360 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: gone through every last effort to ensure we've got this right? 361 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: And that's really where it is, because there will still 362 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: be cases where the death penalty may be applied. And 363 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: I would go, yeah, here's the data. No one's arguing, 364 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: no one's questioning it. There it is. That's for the civilian, 365 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: the citizen. The soldier is a different thing. If we 366 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: have proof that this guy tried to sell tank vulnerabilities 367 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: to the Russians, then whatever happens to him happens to him. 368 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: And I don't care. I won't spend a moment thinking 369 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: about it. Did you try to sell information to the 370 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: Russians that would harm American soldiers, your fellow soldiers. Yep, Okay, 371 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: it's done, it's over, goodbye. I don't care how the 372 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: methodology works. You don't get to be here anymore. What 373 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: you've done is too egregious. Yeah. I do have a 374 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: different standard for it, Absolutely I do. But I think 375 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: here's the stranger part. Is this guy so incredibly stupid 376 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: that he thought he would have to give materials to 377 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: become a Russian citizen. Couldn't you have just become a 378 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: Russian citizen, headed over to Russia and said I'd like 379 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: to be in a Russian citizen. Now, this guy have 380 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: discussed obtaining and provide to the Russian government a specific 381 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: piece of hardware inside an Abram's tank and delivered what 382 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: appeared to be the hardware to restorage unit in Al Paso, Texas. 383 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: And then this guy sent a message to the individual 384 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: he believed to be a representative of the Russian government 385 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: stating mission accomplished. Come on, why what you know what? 386 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: The Russians don't even want this guy. We're like, yeah, 387 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: this guy is too stupid, this is useful idiot time 388 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: you literally wrote mission accomplished. Did you get this idea 389 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: from George Bush? What is wrong with you? You know what? 390 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: I don't care you put you you were willing to 391 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: put soldiers at risk. I got nothing for you, absolutely 392 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: positively nothing for you. Now, I said in the beginning, 393 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: I just want to be clear. I feel the same 394 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: way about Islamists. There are some people you cannot live 395 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: with in a civil society, and is lamis people who 396 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: believe in the Caliphate, people who believe in Sharia. You 397 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: cannot live with these people, you cannot engage with them. 398 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: And I'm going to share this story again. Did you 399 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: catch this out of Australia. Some guy is screaming and 400 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: yelling it's a rally for Palestine. You know what it is. 401 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: It's a Prohomas rally. It's a kill all the Jews rally. 402 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: It is a destroy Western civilization rally. As we have 403 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: been discussing from the very very beginning, all of this, 404 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: all of this is about destroying Western civilization, every last 405 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: bit of it. So so with that, I caught this 406 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: piece out of Australia and let me just give you 407 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: just some fair warning. This guy is a is a 408 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: screamer because he's very tough. He is screaming, is very 409 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: very tough, but goes. We said the same story, We 410 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: say the same kind of they gifted, they gifted that land, 411 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: They stole land Isam just like it does not have 412 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: a lot to exist, just like Israel, Australia does not 413 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: have a right to exist. Guys, we were right from 414 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: the beginning and we know it. There's no question, there's 415 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: no debate. All of these Kafia wearing fools. They're all 416 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: supporters of Hamas. Oh, they're in solidarity with the Palestinians. 417 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: No you're not. You're in solidarity with those who want 418 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: to destroy Western civilization. We see you. And my response is, well, 419 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: it's it's us or it's them, and I choose us 420 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: and screw them. Let's fight. And I'm not quite sure 421 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: how we haven't had this conversation yet in America. I 422 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 1: do not know what Donald Trump and jade Vans are 423 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: waiting for. The barbarians are at the gates, and Islamists, 424 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: people who want a worldwide caliphate, people who want you 425 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: to pay the jizia, the tax or die. The people 426 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: who believe that women can be honor killed, the people 427 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: who believe that women shouldn't be allowed to leave their 428 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: home without a man, the people who believe that they 429 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: have the absolute right to kill the non believers. And 430 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: killing and lying is well within the mindset of the 431 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: Islamist and is allowed by the Quran. With all due respect, 432 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't know why we're having any level of cordial 433 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: conversation about this. I am not discussing your muzzle, neighbor. 434 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: I am discussing the Islamist and everybody you see on 435 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: the streets and everybody you see at Columbia University in 436 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: these other places who believes in the death of Jews 437 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: and therefore the death of Western civilization. It's us or 438 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: it's them. I choose us. What are we doing? We 439 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: go back to the days of the Barbary pirates, from 440 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli. You 441 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: just can't do it. You cannot do it. Christopher Hitchens 442 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: tells the stories of Jefferson and reaching out. Why do 443 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: you go after our people like this because we're commanded 444 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: to talks about the amount of Americans we'll call them 445 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: Americans for the sake of the better argument, who were 446 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: taken off these ships as they were traveling and taken 447 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: as slaves. We think slavery started in the United States, 448 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: Only the most ignorant DEI advocate would believe such a thing. 449 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: Slavery is evil. We were wrong to have it. But 450 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: it didn't start here, and it was larger in South America, 451 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: and it was well throughout Europe, and it was the 452 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: people of Africa selling the people of Africa, and there 453 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: was an entire Middle East slave trade. It's gross and yes, 454 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: you had these people taking as slaves. We'll call them Americans, 455 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: right the foundation of the nation taken as slaves they were. 456 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: This happened by people who believe they had the right 457 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: to do it, and to this day have not changed, 458 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: had not had a reformation, have not had an enlightenment. 459 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: You know. I talk about people change, not the Islamist. 460 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: The Islamist has not changed. The Islamist believes in the 461 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: worldwide caliphates and you must submit and pay the jijia, 462 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: the tax, or you must die. What are we doing? 463 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: It's us to them, what are we doing? Why have 464 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: we not stood up to this and said, yeah, we're 465 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: not in cities and municipalities when these people gather, these 466 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: people must be stopped. They must be stopped. And if 467 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: you say to me, whoa what if they're Americans and 468 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: they're engaged in free speech, I would make an argument 469 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: that goes as follows free speech I favor. I have 470 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: never once said, for example, for a low life bigot 471 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: like Lewis Farcon, that he shouldn't be allowed to speak. 472 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: I can make the argument that when the objective is 473 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: so perfectly clear and is so well enunciated, that maybe 474 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: the free speech argument doesn't apply because what they are favoring, 475 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: what they are engaging in, is about destruction. What they're 476 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: engaging in is about incitement to Uh. Oh, what's the 477 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: word insurrection? That's it. I knew I had it. What's 478 00:32:52,160 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: the difference, what's the difference. It's incitement to insurrection. I 479 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: led Tea Party rallies across the country. You know what 480 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: I said, lower taxes and vote. That's not insurrection. That 481 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: is speech and utilizing our system to get a better result. 482 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: Australia does not have the right to exist. Is a 483 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: call to arms against Australia. Israel does not have a 484 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: right to exist, as these Islamists say it, and their counterparts, 485 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: whether it be elected officials like Illehano mar Andrashida Talib 486 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: or others. Oh, they believe what they believe. It's a 487 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: or Columbia University the other. It's a call to arms, 488 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: it's a call to an attack, it's a call to destruction, 489 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: and it should be met with the response that, yeah, 490 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: we don't allow that here, we don't allow the call 491 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: for insurrection to take place. We should also recognize the 492 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: idea of religion versus political system. But that's another story 493 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: for another day. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz Today. 494 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: There is a story I want you to keep your 495 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: ears open for and your eyes on. It's the story 496 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: of Abigail Spaanberger. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to 497 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: be with you. She is Democratic candidate for governor in 498 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: Virginia and she's going to be running against Winsome Seers, 499 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: who I like quite a bit. She's the lieutenant governor 500 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: under Glenn Jenkin. So the story with span Berger is that, 501 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: as financial records show, she took a donation of fifty 502 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: thousand dollars from a businessman two twenty five thousand dollars 503 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 1: installments from a businessman by the name of pin Nee 504 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: last name Ni. He's the president of something called the 505 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: wen Jiang America US arm of a Chinese automotive conglomerate, 506 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: and this conglomerate has massive ties to the Communist Chinese Party. 507 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: So you have this politician who is the Democratic nominee 508 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: for governor they run off your elections there taking money 509 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: from the Chai coms. That is a story. As we're 510 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 1: looking into so many of these things, as we're finding 511 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: out about so many things, we have to be looking 512 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: at who is taking money from whom, and we have 513 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: to put an end to it. I talk about Islamists, 514 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about communists. The Communist Chinese Party cannot be 515 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: allowed to own land in the United States, cannot be 516 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: allowed to own businesses in the United States, and cannot 517 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: donate to elected officials or any political of any kind. 518 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: And if we do not stop this, we are nuts. 519 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: Abigail Spanberger, keep an eye on that name, keep an 520 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: eye on this story. Find everything I do over at 521 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: Tony cats dot com. I will catch you tomorrow. Everyone, 522 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: take care,