1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: I know we've come a long way with change in day. 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: To day, but tell me where did the children believe? Yeah, 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: that's a great question. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Casey Kat Stevens is about fifty years ahead of the curve. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: Where do the children play? 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: And that's the thing I found myself asking yesterday. Yeah, 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: so we went on you and I not together, but 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: well we we ended up meeting up together, but we 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: went on a little a little road trip. Your husband 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: is a is into the world of sports collectibles, and 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: so the National Sports Collector's Convention was yesterday. All it's 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: all week in in uh just outside of Chicago and 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: by Rosemont, and it's a for those of you are 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: not aware, obviously, the sports collector's industry is this just 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: multi billion dollar industry at this point, and every year 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people gather at whatever city they're 17 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: having this thing in and it is the super Bowl 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: of sports collecting. Now, I don't collect anything anymore, and 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: I enjoy, but I do enjoy the unbridled enthusiasm or 20 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: what I used to consider the unbridled enthusiasm of collecting. 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: And so I wanted to see your husband because he 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: is very into the into the collecting and the magazines 23 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: primarily is what he deals with his sports magazines. And 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: I said, I want to see him on full display 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: in his element, and I just want to go watch 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: and see all of these people interact, you know, in 27 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: one setting. And by the way, your husband is a 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: rock star, Casey, I'm not kidding. I watched people wait 29 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: to shake his hand and to get photos with. 30 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: Him and and talk to him, and people were buying 31 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: his work, and it was like I was standing there 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: with Elvis, and he is the Elvis of sports magazines. 33 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: That is a good job. 34 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: You should be very proud. 35 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: But what was interesting to me, So you know, you're 36 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: it's like this massive convention center and there's numerous rooms 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: and there's probably thousands of dealers. 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: We're expecting hundred thousand people. 39 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, the trap, I mean just the 41 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: traffic it was not great. Wow, But the event itself. 42 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: And I would encourage everybody to go at some point, 43 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: just go see the spectacle. Now, unless you're really into collectibles, 44 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: once you've seen it, once you're good, You're gonna be good, 45 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: because I mean, it is a whatever is going to 46 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: go down the street at gen Con it will not 47 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: I can't imagine. 48 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: Pales in comparison to. 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 2: What we saw yesterday. 50 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, History was probably one of the 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: slower days because it's Friday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, the weekend, whatever. 52 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: But one of the things that stood out to me, 53 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean, there's this incredible amount of It's like going 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: to the Baseball Hall of Fame or you know, it's 55 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: like all these Hall of Fames in one Baseball the 56 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: Fame Football Hall of Fame basket and there's all these vintage, 57 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, one of a kind stuff. 58 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: But what's the. 59 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 5: Nave athletes They are signing autographs like I believe it's 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 5: on Saturday, Dennis Rodman, Oh yeah, this is going to 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 5: be their signing autographs. 62 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: And the people there were super nice. It was easy 63 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: as a member of the media. They were great to 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: get in, get our pass, you know for us. Once 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: you can get into the thing itself, it was wonderfully run. 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: But it is just so overwhelming now. And what was 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: interesting to me is all the kids who now are 68 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: treating this thing like a business. Yeah, Like they're walking 69 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: around Casey with these metal briefcases, like these bullet proof 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking kids I'm talking like. 71 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: Twelve year olds. 72 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got their cards in there, don't they. 73 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: And everything is on their phone and everything they do, 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: they open it up and they're. 75 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: Like engaging in commerce with adults. But there's not. And again, 76 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: I know I'm going to sound like an old man 77 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: who yells at clouds. 78 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: When we were kids, it was the idea that you 79 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: paid a dollar for a pack of cards, and it 80 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: was the thrill of going to your local card shop 81 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: and the idea of buying the thing and then opening 82 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: the thing and then going home and then trading with 83 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: your friends. I saw very little trading with my friends there. No, 84 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: it was it was a business deal. And I didn't 85 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: know how to hand I didn't know how to deal 86 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: with that. I didn't know how to handle that. Like, 87 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: am I a rotten person for saying for kids, that's 88 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: not how it's supposed to be. 89 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, it just shows how much that has changed 90 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 5: and evolved because you had gone what about ten years ago? 91 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: Ten years ago was the last time I went, yes, 92 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 2: And so you're. 93 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 5: Going back a decade later and you're seeing just how 94 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 5: much bigger it is, how many more people are involved, 95 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 5: and their attitude towards it. And that's one of the 96 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 5: things with Jim when he started getting into it, he 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 5: had an old box of Sports Illustrated from when he 98 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 5: was thirteen, and you know, they had been in a box. 99 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 5: We had moved that box multiple times with us over 100 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 5: the years. And finally during COVID he was kind of 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 5: going through some stuff, like many people were found that 102 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 5: old box a Sports Illustrated and. 103 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 4: Was like, oh, gosh, I remember that. Yeah, that was 104 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: one of my favorites. That's why I saved it. Or 105 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: it had Michael Jordan on the cover. 106 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: He was a big Michael Jordan fan, and so he said, 107 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 5: I'm going to try and get all of the Michael 108 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 5: Jordan's Sports Illustrated covers. 109 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: But then it just kept going and going, and now. 110 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 5: It's become a business for him and he restores magazines 111 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 5: for other people who take those magazines to this convention 112 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 5: and try to get the best deal. Who wants this 113 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 5: pristine condition magazine or baseball card, but they're doing it 114 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 5: to turn a buck. He talks about it how he 115 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 5: still loves the art on the cover of the magazine 116 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 5: or the athlete and what they were doing in their life. 117 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 5: I mean, you can tell he still has a passion 118 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 5: for the actual product. 119 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: Sure it's not just about the dollar, but for many 120 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: of those kids there, it's about the buck well. 121 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: And I told you this story at dinner yesterday that 122 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: you know, there's this one stand that has all this 123 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: guy has all these magazines and they're they're you know, graded, 124 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: and they are all very nice. And so I asked him, 125 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: I said, well, like, did you do any work for 126 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: this guy? And he goes, I did all the work 127 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: for this guy. And I'm like, really, it's like, oh yeah, 128 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: every magazine in this place, and these people are loving 129 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: these mat like they're like, oh this is so great 130 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: a blah blah blah. I was like, they're buying your work, dude, 131 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: like you are the date, I mean, the David that 132 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: the magazine has value because it's a collectible. But the 133 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: way sports magazines work, you can press them, you can 134 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: you can clean them up, et cetera. And that's fine, 135 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Like that's a legitimate practice in that industry. And I'm like, 136 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: they're buying your work like you are giving the people 137 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: these happiness. 138 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 5: Did you notice all of the guys walking around with backpack? Oh? 139 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: Yes? 140 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: And so what's so weird for me is again like 141 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: I don't collect anything. I just went to see the spectacle. 142 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: But there were when I was a kid. I remember 143 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: getting these magazines of these baseball car dealers and they 144 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: were like larger than life. They would advertise in these magazines, 145 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: and as a kid, you were like. 146 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: It'd be cool to be that guy. 147 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: Many of them have sadly passed on, but there are 148 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: a few of them that were still there, And like 149 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: I was trying to find those people and just watch them. 150 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: Like one of these guys, a very famous guy from 151 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Hawaii's got to be in his eighties now, and I 152 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: found him and he was buying a collection from a guy, 153 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: and like, I just sat there and watched him buy 154 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: this guy's collection, and it was like, must have been 155 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: what it was like to watch David paint, you know, 156 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: make a painting or something. 157 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: But I did. 158 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: Like, again, I love the kids are into a hobby. 159 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: I loved the kids have things to do. Biolcats. I'm 160 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: not saying like these are nefarious future criminals out running around. 161 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything about that at all. There's nothing 162 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: wrong with it other than I don't know. 163 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 5: It just it's not the same as just opening up 164 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 5: the package, Yeah, baseball cards and getting that stale stick 165 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 5: of bubble gum. Yeah, rifling through and yeah, I got 166 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: this guy. I got this guy. Now it's all about 167 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 5: which card is worth the most money, and. 168 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: That's the transaction. 169 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: The transaction isn't like, hey, you got three cards I 170 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: want and you got one I really want. Hey, it's 171 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: close enough in value that maybe you're getting a little 172 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: over on me this time, or maybe I'm getting. 173 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: A little over on you. But you know that'll reverse 174 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: in the. 175 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: Future because we trade every day, these these kids. It's 176 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: like dollar for dollar, man. 177 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 5: And it's all about the brand of cards. And well, 178 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 5: you found the Wagner cards. 179 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 4: I did. 180 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: I did my whole the other quest I had in 181 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: addition to seeing these people I saw as a kid, 182 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: because you know me, I could be mistette nostalgia about 183 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: a bowel movement, right, So it's all like me, it's 184 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: all about the past finding these guys. 185 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: And I found most of them. 186 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: But the most famous baseball card in the world is 187 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: a Honess Wagner Tito six card. It's worth several million dollars. 188 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: There's only about sixty in existence. And I said, there's 189 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: got to be a Wagner at this thing. It's this, 190 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: you know. And finally it took me about four hours. 191 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: I found a wagner. 192 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: Guy was selling it. 193 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: It was a large auction house that will be selling it, 194 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: and you offered to buy it. I offered sixty three 195 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: dollars and they did not did not accept my own along. 196 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: But anyway, that was super fun and I like, your 197 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: husband is a celebrity. 198 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: So you've just got to face the facts. 199 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: That in the in the then the uh, the nerd community, 200 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: he is the top. 201 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: He's the top guy, king of the nerd. 202 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: He's But anyway, everybody should totally go to that thing, 203 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: just for the one time, the National Sports Collector Convention. 204 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: Just it's a life event. Do it. You don't have 205 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: to buy anything, like me and I. 206 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: Walked out with nothing. It's the site, it's the sulence, 207 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: it's the people. They've got entertainment stuff, all sorts of 208 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: It is a great time.