1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Two and one down, well Tony Dials swang in a 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: drive left field, that one towards the bleachers and gone. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: Guerrero pumps his fist yells into the dugout. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: The franchise face, putting the team on his back. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: The two one swanging a ball drilled left field, going 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: back his straws there and he makes the catch and 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays have tied this series. After the gut 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: renchin lost last night that might have just wiped a 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: lesser team off, the Blue Jays bounced back. 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome into the Fan Morning Show. James Boyd, 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen, Mark Diyton, Jeffrickers Show, Hey O Tanny Vlad 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: Guerrero Junior No Pacers game last night. The Colts were 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: off yesterday, settled in for a nice little fall classic game, 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: Game four of the World Series. Last night show, Hey 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: O Tani. Trying to pitch Usually you would say James 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: on four or five days rest, sometimes four days this 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: time of year. But trying to pitch on five days rest, 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: but coming off an eighteen inning Performers that went well 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: into the night where he was on base nine times. 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: He looked I thought a little bit tired. Last night. 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: Made one mistake early in the game to Vlad Guerrero 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: Junior and like show, hey Vlad Dunn miss if you 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: make a mistake, and all of a sudden, Toronto was off, 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: not so much to the races. They took a two 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: to one lead to end up winning six to two. 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: But oh, Tony didn't look as sharp last night, and 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 2: that's completely understandable. 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 3: I thought, Yeah, I guess he's human. That was my 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: biggest takeaway from him yesterday. 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's how that looked last night. So it 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: was a fun game to watch, Kevin. I don't know 32 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: if you spent time with the family last night or 33 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: watched Major League baseball, but it was kind of nice 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: to just have baseball. And he's back into the easy 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: chair last night, and the dog and I just hung 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: out and watched a little Fall Classic. 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I honestly think this is probably one of 38 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: the more competitive World Series we've had in a while. 39 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: I mean, we're guaranteed to go six with it now 40 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: being two two, is there any doubt we go seven? 41 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, he just has that feel already 42 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: to it. And I think within the four games they've 43 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: been really competitive, so Toronto Starr who got you know, 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 4: front and center last night with that fourth inning shot 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 4: from Vlad and then they kind of broke it open 46 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 4: there in the seventh. So yeah, two two, and are 47 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: we I think we're back to the game one starting 48 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: dual tonight. I believe it's Blake Snell and what's his name? 49 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 4: You're Savage or have you say a Savage? Yeah, the 50 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: guy who's come up from a single A yes, So yeah, 51 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 4: coming back up to the game one starting dual tonight. 52 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. And like I said, 53 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: you know, we have so much going on around here. 54 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: There's always something going on. There's always a game or 55 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: there's something happening. It doesn't happen very often, and I 56 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: like having all of our local stuff. That doesn't bother 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 2: me at all. But it was nice just to worry 58 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: about one game and one game only and not have 59 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: to really have a rooting interest in it, just watch 60 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: it for the sake of watching great baseball. Mark, you 61 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: watch baseball almost every day during the season. This has 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: got to be this gotta be heaven for you. I 63 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: know you'd like the Cubs to be there, but it's 64 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: fun to watch two teams that you're fairly neutral on 65 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: just slug it out. 66 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 5: I'm a fan of greatness in Vlad Guerrero Junior and 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 5: show Hey O Tani our greatness, you know, all together, 68 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: so I enjoy watching them. And yeah, it's been a 69 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 5: very fun World Series so far. I appreciate that it's 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 5: not going till three in the morning, so I was 71 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 5: locked in yesterday. But you know, it's been a very 72 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 5: good World Series. I'm still pulling for the Blue Jays, 73 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 5: but the Dodgers are very very good, so I don't 74 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 5: know which way this is going to go. 75 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's been a lot of fun to watch. I 76 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: know we've got more of that tonight. We've also got 77 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: a lot of college basketball on tap tonight as well. 78 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: Butler's going to be playing at home against Indiana State, 79 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: the Fighting JMVS or the Sycamores as you like to 80 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: call him. We'll be going up against Butler. That one 81 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: will tip off at seven. We'll have that one on 82 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: beginning at six thirty over on Fuego. This is the Butler. 83 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: Because we've got the Pacers coming up with a airtime 84 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: of eight pm tonight. They will be in Dallas. We 85 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: had a conversation with Rick Carlisle yesterday, Kevin, what was 86 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: your take on early morning out in Dallas Rick Carlisle 87 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: and what he has got to put together? You talk 88 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: about a tough puzzle to try and piece together for 89 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: him right out of the gate. Who's going to be healthy, 90 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: Who's gonna be my starting five? How's this even going 91 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: to work? I imagine he's just going to be throwing 92 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: lineups out there to see what sticks tomorrow night or tonight. 93 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 94 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: I can't imagine many times Rick Carlisle has ever had 95 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 4: a guard workout five days into the NBA season and 96 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 4: that guard workout might be your starter tonight. But that 97 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 4: was the reality of Mac McClung winning that workout. So yeah, 98 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: if you missed that, Rick Carlisle joined it said nine 99 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 4: o'clock May we'll play the McClung piece coming up here 100 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: in a little bit. But yeah, the injury situation, once 101 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 4: again is lengthy. I did not like at all seeing 102 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: ob topping stress reaction in the foot. Gonna be out 103 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: at least a month. So you look at the month 104 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 4: of November, I want to say fifteen sixteen games. So 105 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 4: now you're talking what a fourth of the season. If that, 106 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: you know, verbiage of at least a month is right. 107 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 4: And you know in NFL world, James Boyd, when I 108 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: hear week to week, that usually means multiple weeks. And 109 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 4: that was the label offered for Benedic math and yesterday 110 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: with the right toe spring. Yeah, I believe. 111 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: Miles Turner had a stress reaction in his left foot. 112 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: This was back in twenty twenty one, twenty two, and 113 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: I believe that year he played a career low forty 114 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: two games, and so this is one of those injuries. 115 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: From what I understand and what I remember about Miles' 116 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 3: this case was you basically don't want to over exert 117 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: the foot because a stress reaction can lead to a 118 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: stress fracture. So it can get healed without having any 119 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: procedures done. But it really just takes a lot of 120 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: time and it's different for everybody. So yeah, him being 121 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: out at least a month is probably generous when considering 122 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: the nature of the injury. 123 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 4: And how he plays. 124 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a guy who, you know, like 125 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: any player needs his foot, but high flying, a lot 126 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: of forests, jumping, moving, cutting, unfortunate situation and yeah, that 127 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: was a bit alarmaty that get updated from you know, 128 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: a hamstring to a stress reaction. But Ricarlo just said 129 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: he had to go undergo further testing, and obviously the 130 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 3: this has proved it was a bigger injury. 131 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: I haven't figured it out yet, and I'll go back 132 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: and look maybe during the break. But Kevin off top 133 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: of your head, are there more Pacers players from the 134 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 2: fifteen man roster injured right now than there are healthy 135 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: original fifteen man just two weeks? Yeah, it's probably pretty close. 136 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: I know this. There's more Pacers hurt right now than 137 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: there are Colts. It's just crazy, which makes zero sense. 138 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 4: I mean, like add of the Colts Okay, Samson, Epacom, 139 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 4: Taekwon Lewis both missed. Savarious Wards on IR, I guess 140 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson James like starting, let's just go too deep, 141 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 4: Spencer Schrader. I mean, the Colts have played eight football 142 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 4: games this year. Yeah, and I count five dudes hurt. 143 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 4: Maybe stretch it to a sixth if you want to 144 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: throw Jalen Jones maybe in there that Pacers have what 145 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 4: eight guys listed? Yeah? Seven or eight? I mean it's amazing. 146 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: I mean the Colts have had more guys hurt and 147 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: warm up I mean, it's just it's insane where the 148 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: Pacers are at from a health sam right now. I 149 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: do think there is one particular pacer that they a really, 150 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: really really need right now who is healthy and be 151 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: what a great opportunity for him. So maybe we can 152 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: get into that as the show moves along, because probably 153 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: anyone's guess as to how they'll hand point guarding, even 154 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: handle center here tonight it will be Cooper Flagg and 155 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: the Dallas Mavericks. They are a seven point underdog Mavericks, 156 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: one of the bigger lineups in the league. It's something 157 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: Rick talked about with us yesterday. You know, how the 158 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: Pacers will look lineup wise, could have a little bit 159 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: of dependence on exactly how much size and height that 160 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: Dallas has. Obviously Anthony Davis been their best player this year. 161 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 7: Yeah. 162 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: Ryles checks in early on the fan text line at 163 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: two three, nine, ten seventy. It says, like a lot 164 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: of people have the last couple of days they want 165 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: to know, do you think we can chuck these injuries 166 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: up to all of them playing so much longer last 167 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: year than they've ever played before and not getting enough 168 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: recovery time this summer. 169 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 6: I don't know. 170 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: Maybe, but it's the commomy. 171 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: Rick Carla has an answer to that that we could 172 00:07:58,720 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: plug coming up in a bit. 173 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: So stay tuned. 174 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: Rick Carlisle will talk about that. 175 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: But I think everybody always wonders how many games are 176 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: too many? You throw in what between four and six? 177 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: I think it's usually four. You can play up to 178 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: six preseason games. 179 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 4: If now we should load manage NBA players, is that 180 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 4: what we're saying. No, I'm just asking the question. Now, 181 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: I'll go to the season it was worth it. 182 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine with that, But there is is there 183 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: a point where the body's like a uncle? 184 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: I don't know. 185 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 7: I don't know. 186 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: Jordan used to show up and play eighty two games 187 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: a year, and nobody played more basketball in the eighties 188 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: and nineties. 189 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: Than he did. 190 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: Of course he's that's a unicorn too, So I don't know. 191 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: All right, So we'll check in on all of that. 192 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: We'll hear what Rick Carlisle has to say about those 193 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 2: things coming up in a few minutes. We got the 194 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: World Series last night, Pacers back on the floor this evening. 195 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: College basketball is close to moving out of the exhibition 196 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: phase of the season. As we get closer and closer 197 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: to November, and then we have that golden spot in. 198 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: The next week or two. 199 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: Well, you got major League Baseball, college basketball, college football, NBA, NFL. 200 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm leaving something out, but who who knows. 201 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: There's lots of stuff going on. We'll talk about all 202 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: of it in the moment as we continue. Ninety three 203 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: five and one oh seven. Happy Wednesday morning. You made 204 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: it to hump Day. It's going to be a great day. 205 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: We've got a lot of college basketball tonight. The Pacers 206 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: are in Dallas, but the Colts return to work later 207 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: on today. Over in West fifty six. Good morning everyone, 208 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: Kevin Bowen, James Boy, Jeff Rickard and Mark Dyketon and James. 209 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: Back at it for the players today out at West 210 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: fifty six, getting ready for a road game against the 211 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday. At seven and one, things rolling 212 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: along talked about some injuries yesterday. 213 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 4: What are we looking for today when you head out there. 214 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: Probably the defensive line. You want to see if Taekwon 215 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 3: Lewis is back out there. I think he missed the 216 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: game with the groin, and then Samson Ebucom missed last 217 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: week's game with the knee, So all those guys out there, 218 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: and then on top of that, Anthony Gould, I believe 219 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: he's with kne injury as well. He's their main kickoff returner. 220 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: So those are some of the injuries. But as far 221 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: as the you know, bigger names go there relatively healthy 222 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 3: at this point in the year, which is all you 223 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: can ask for when you're playing a sport is violin 224 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: as football. 225 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: Far as the defense is concerned, Louanna Romo's team has 226 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: done enough to get the Colts to seven and one 227 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 2: behind that high powered offense. And he had said yesterday 228 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: he doesn't want to run a bend but dope break defense. 229 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 2: They want to be a little more aggressive. They want 230 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: to force some things. How much more can they improve 231 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: given the personnel that they have right now, Let's say 232 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: they don't add an edge rusher or another person secondary. 233 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: How do they get better? Yeah? I mean lately they 234 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 4: have been ben Ba don't break, not by choice. To 235 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 4: be clear, as you pointed out, Louianna Romo definitely does 236 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 4: not want to be that. I think his predecessor was 237 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: much more content with ben but don't break. So I 238 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: think you want to hear that if you are a 239 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: Colts fan, But yeah, I mean, given some of the 240 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: personnel right now and just the ineffectiveness of the edge 241 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 4: rush group, that's kind of how they've been. You know, 242 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh does have probably a little bit more of a 243 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: balance at that. Pittsburgh's big issues right now defensively. You know, 244 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin is getting asked have you thought about taking 245 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 4: over play calling duties that ain't good? You know when 246 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: you're getting asked that as a head coach. So that's 247 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: a reality, and I think that's a big storyline heading 248 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: into Week nine. Saw Pittsburgh make trade yesterday, so they 249 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: have a lot more questions defensively. The Colts have them, 250 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 4: but Pittsburgh's got a lot more of them heading into 251 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: this matchup. It's probably the reason why the Colts are 252 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: a field goal favored in a place that I believe 253 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 4: they've only won once as the Indianapolis Colts. 254 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers started off fairly 255 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: well the first six weeks or so. The last couple 256 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: of weeks they've struggled just a little bit. So it'll 257 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 2: be interesting to see at the stadium Hinz Field this 258 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: coming weekend what the Steelers have in store for the 259 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts. Game starts at one o'clock Sunday afternoon. All 260 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: of our pregame begins at ten am right here, ninety 261 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: three five and one oh seven to five. Later on 262 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: tonight in the NBA, the Indiana Pacers take on the 263 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks. That one will start at eight o'clock, and 264 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: the injury news just gets worse and worse. James, Boy, 265 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: what's going on with Obi topping in his foot? 266 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: Now? Yeah? 267 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 3: So, originally after he left Sunday's game, I believe against 268 00:11:55,679 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: the Timberwolves, Recrlos said it was a hamstring in then 269 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: come to find out a couple of days later, after 270 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: getting further testing, it's a stress reaction in his right foot. 271 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: So obviously that's a much more significant injury I think, 272 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: and perhaps a trickier injury when it comes to the 273 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: recovery timeline. So he will be out at least a 274 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: month according to Rick Carlisle and shot out to Dustin 275 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: to Pierrack of Indie Starr, because when I watched the 276 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 3: interview back Rick Carlo, I didn't really offen the information. Initially, 277 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: it was Dustin that kind of pressed for more and 278 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 3: got that out of him, so he is out for 279 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: at least a month, and then Bendiic Mathern is week 280 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: to week with a big toe injury on his right foot. 281 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 3: So unfortunate, and that's why you're seeing Mac McClung like 282 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: Kevinlutitude just a while ago. Possibly planned some big minutes tonight. 283 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 4: All right, we'll take a look at that. 284 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: One starts at eight pm tonight with Mark Boyle and 285 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: Pat Boiler on the pregame show, and then the tip 286 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: comes at eight thirty. Our first chance to see Cooper 287 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: Flag up close and personal tonight as the Pacers look 288 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 2: for their first win of the season college basketball Later 289 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: on tonight, it's gonna be busy Indianapolis taking on Butler 290 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 2: tonight six thirty airtime, seven pm. Tip. That'll be on 291 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: our sister station, Fuego ninety two point seven. You've got 292 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 2: that dialed up in your car right now, don't you. 293 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: Mark Dychton, you're your Fuego guy, aren't you? P one? 294 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: Maybe place like coming back. 295 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 4: It's been a while since I had Spanish in high school. 296 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: Uh I took four. 297 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 4: Years in high school. I know nothing. That's all I 298 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 4: know is I sang a song said, Tango la camisa negra, 299 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: I have the black shirt. 300 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: See Tango Tango locamisa. 301 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 4: Give it up, let's go, I can keep on. I 302 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: don't want to look like Shakira at seven to twenty 303 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: in the morning here. That's all I took. 304 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 5: I just want to understand what Shakiro was saying, right, 305 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 5: serenad Mark, it's a nice trong replacement at the age 306 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 5: of forty for maybe thirty nine and a half. 307 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: Uh So, yeah, Fego tonight ninety two point seven FM 308 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: for Indianapolis and Butler also tonight, I'm sorry, Indiana State 309 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: and Butler. I take it back, it's Indiana State Buggler 310 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: because Indianapolis is up at Purdue, the number one ranked 311 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: team in the nation right now, So that one comes 312 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: your way at seven if you're traveling up there. Upset alert, 313 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: Oh Lord, upset alert. That's right, and them on you Indy. Yeah, 314 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 2: so looking forward to all those things later on tonight. 315 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: Last night, Valpo beat Brescia one O four to sixty. 316 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: That is a school I've never heard of, Kevin ever. 317 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I don't even know what you just said. 318 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: Say that again, Brescia, b r E s c i 319 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: A until tight. Until last night, I'd never heard of them. 320 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: Sounds like this. Yeah, that could could be Spanish or 321 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: Sneeze for. 322 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 8: All I know. 323 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: One O four to sixty two. Valpo got the win there. 324 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: In Regional College Basketball WNBA, labor negotiations continue. I think 325 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: the league is asking for a little bit of a 326 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: of an extension on when the thing expires, which is 327 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: supposed to be coming up towards the end of this week, 328 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: as they try to figure out who's going to get 329 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: all the money and where it's all going to go 330 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: now that they've got TV contracts and everything else. The 331 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: players keep saying, where's my money? So we'll find out 332 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 2: how that whole thing works out when it's all set 333 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: and done. Major League Baseball last night, uh Vlad Guerrero 334 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: got his on. Sho Hey Otane hit a home run early, 335 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: took a two to one lead. The Blue Jays extend 336 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: that to a six to two victory last night. Shane 337 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: Bieber was pretty good last night, five and a third innings. 338 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: And yes, we did find out that shoe Heo Tani 339 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: is human Mark dyked and he did actually look a 340 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: little bit tired on the man last night, and I thought, you. 341 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: Know, he still came. 342 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: I was thinking, he looks like he's laboring a little bit, 343 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: but he was still throwing ninety nine plus at times 344 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: last night. 345 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 346 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 5: Don't blame him for being tired. I didn't play eighteen 347 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 5: innings like he did, and I'm I'm still tired, so 348 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 5: I can only imagine how he was. 349 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that game five comes your way tonight at eight 350 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: pm in Los Angeles. Safe to say this is a 351 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: big one for the Dodgers, James Boyd because they didn't 352 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: want to go back to Toronto down three to two. 353 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 6: No, not at all. 354 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: But at the same time, like Kevin said, this is 355 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: a world series, is giving us a little more theater 356 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: than in a couple of years past, So I'll take. 357 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: It all right. 358 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: NBA last night, a couple of scores want to tell 359 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: you about an interesting game for us. The Milwaukee Bucks 360 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: beat the New York Knicks one twenty one to one eleven. 361 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: Janas Santanakupo had thirty seven points, but it was a 362 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: fairly quiet night for Miles Turner last night, who only 363 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: made one field goal in thirty minutes of play. He 364 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: did come down with eight rebounds, but they're probably looking 365 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: Kevin for more than five points and eight rebounds from 366 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: Miles Turner. 367 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he has shot at awful so far with the Bucks. 368 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 4: I think it's like thirty percent from the floor, twenty 369 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: percent from three So Saton mark yesterday, James might be 370 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: good to get Eric name on here to end the 371 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 4: week because Miles Turner and the Pacers that will be 372 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: Monday here inside of Gambridge Field that was typically Monday's 373 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: are reserved for you know, coult to recap. So Eric Name, 374 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: who we had on during the Bucks series last year, 375 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: James's colleague at the Athletic. I think he's been all 376 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: over the Miles Turner story from the Milwaukee side of it. 377 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: Milwaukee is off to a three and one start, so 378 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: that might be a good guest to get on maybe 379 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: even tomorrow here. Before that's I would say corrus aboos 380 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: rains down certainly on Miles Turner. 381 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: A couple of other national notes that I want to 382 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: talk about. The fallout continues from the illegal poker games 383 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: and the possible points scandal whatever. For the Miami Heat, 384 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: it looks now like there was an eight million dollar 385 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: tab owed to the irs by Terry Roseier. 386 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 4: Did you see that, James Boyd? 387 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I forget who reported that, but it was not 388 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 3: I think it was ESPN. Actually, yeah, he had an 389 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: eight minute of like taxling or something like that, which 390 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: was around the same time that he started allegedly throwing 391 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: games or through at least one game. So not ideal 392 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: for him and everyone involved. Again, when you have people 393 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 3: that investigate this stuff over years and years, they're not 394 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: going to company to do with something that you know 395 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: can be dismissed pretty quickly. If you're going to fight this, 396 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: it's going to be a while before you get exonerated 397 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: or you get convicted. 398 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: And also the robberies the high profile athletes continues. 399 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 7: You know. 400 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: There there was a big ring that was broken up 401 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: of guys that were waiting until players were actually playing games, 402 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: going to their houses while the games are going on, 403 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: and taking a lot of their STUFFA legend Shaquille O'Neal 404 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: had a custom twenty twenty five range Rover stolen this month. 405 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: It was in Georgia as it was being transported to Louisiana, 406 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: where the Hall of Famer was set to drive it 407 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: during his visit for an LSU game. The car never 408 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: showed up, someone took it from him. What do you 409 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: do with Shaq's range Rover. 410 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 4: There is a Brian Kelly joke somewhere in that. 411 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: Maybe he was stolen at the same time. I don't 412 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: know rang fit the entire family. Authorities are still in 413 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: search of the vehicle, which they said was fraudulently removed 414 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: from a fabrication business between sometime between October twentieth and 415 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: the twenty second and then driven to the Atlanta area 416 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: last week. 417 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 4: I'm here with my family, rolls up to the drive 418 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 4: through at Swig driving that thing. 419 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: Can you imagine just somebody orders something and they roll 420 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: up to the drive in drive through window and you're 421 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: handing them their burger, fries, their drink, whatever, and you 422 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: see Shack sitting there. 423 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 4: Twenty two and a half point favorite over Maryland coming 424 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: up as they are on the road each to the 425 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: next two weeks. Only one home game left for the 426 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 4: Hoosiers this season, and we'll see right now they aren't 427 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: in line for a playoff home game because they're going 428 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 4: to get a bye into the quarterfinals perdue nearly a 429 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: three touchdown underdog. That months of November could not be 430 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 4: more different for these two teams based off record and 431 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: based off opponents purdues. End of the season is murderous 432 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 4: and Indiana's is not. That's man. 433 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: And here's the thing for Purdue, we thought that they 434 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: were going to be a little bit better. They had 435 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: shown some promise at times. But where they're going to 436 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: find a big ten win with this schedule coming up 437 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: the rest of this year, Kevin is it's tough, man. 438 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: You mentioned it. Probably wait until basketball season starts to 439 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 4: find another big ten win. 440 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: All right, Well, if you want to see some Purdue basketball, 441 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: you can go check that out tonight. That will be 442 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: playing at home seven o'clock in an exhibition game. Both 443 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: these games tonight exhibitions Indianapolis at Purdue and Indiana State 444 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: at Butler. All right, coming up in a minute, what 445 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: did Rick Carlisle tell us yesterday about did all the 446 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: games going deep been to June last year affect the 447 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: health of this team coming into the twenty five to 448 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: twenty sixth season. We'll find out more next on ninety 449 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: three five and one o seven five. The fans love 450 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: tradition of the Grand Desid Good morning, and welcome into 451 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: a Wednesday morning here. Hope you're having a great Wednesday 452 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: to start things off, and it goes well for you. 453 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us here at ninety three five one 454 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: oh seven to five the Fan or on your smart 455 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 2: speaker at play Sports Radio one oh seven point five 456 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: of the Fan. 457 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: You can do that. 458 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: You can check us out on the app. You can 459 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: always check us out online, and you can also when 460 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: you go online, check out Kevin Bowen and all the 461 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: stuff that he puts up for the Indianapolis Colts coverage. 462 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: And if you want to go deeper too, you can 463 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: go check out the athletic James. Boy, you guys are 464 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: staying busy with the culture. It's a lot more fun 465 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: to cover a team that's winning than one that's like 466 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: if they were three and five right now again and 467 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: having the same old questions all the time that we've 468 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: had over the last five or six years. It's got 469 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: to be nice to at least write new things this year. 470 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: Yea, I don't think I've ever written a they should 471 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 4: buy the trade deadline, but that's where I'm here on 472 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: this six days before the NFL trade deadline, all right, And. 473 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: He had a Pacers on the floor again tonight eight 474 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: o'clock the airtime here at ninety three five and one 475 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: O seveny five the fan then tip at eight thirty 476 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 2: against the Dallas Mavericks. James Boyd and Kevin Bowen had 477 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: their weekly conversation with Rick Carlisle yesterday, and we've been 478 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: getting a lot of questions on the text line Kevin 479 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: about whether or not all these injuries to start the season, 480 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: could they be traced back to all the games that 481 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: the Pacers played last year, going to the very last 482 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: game seven of the NBA Finals. What were your thoughts 483 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: on that was you were getting ready to ask that 484 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: to Rick. 485 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm wearing a Tiger Woods hat today, not 486 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 4: a medical hat for a reason. There's nothing I'm less 487 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: educated on than anything medically related. But in terms of 488 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 4: my general thoughts, before you know, Rick hit on it yesterday, 489 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 4: I thought, okay, maybe the hamstring injuries you can point to. 490 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 4: You know, they have had a few of those. But 491 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 4: even then, like, are we really saying Quentin Jackson's hamstring 492 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 4: is because he played one hundred games last year? 493 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 7: No? 494 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 4: I mean no, I mean he wasn't a part of 495 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 4: the rotation now. I don't know. Maybe TJ McConnell falls 496 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 4: into a little bit of that boat. But like you 497 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: watched Bendic Matherin's injury, you watch Andrew Namhard's injury, and 498 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 4: none of that to me is from like wear and tear. 499 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 4: That's just lucas stuff that can happen on a basketball floor. Nonetheless, 500 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: Rick Carlisle shared a little bit on that yesterday. 501 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 9: Not like this. 502 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, we went through the brawl stuff, 503 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 6: and we were very depleted as a team during that, 504 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 6: and we had to bring in a lot of reinforcements, 505 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 6: and you know, there was a lot of stuff going 506 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 6: on with suspensions at that time, so we actually had 507 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 6: less players available in a few of the games at 508 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 6: that time. But this is different. You know, one thing 509 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 6: you can you can surmise from this looking at US 510 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 6: and Oklahoma City. I think Oklahoma City has seven guys out, 511 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 6: or did leading to last night. They played Dallas last night. 512 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 6: We now have eight guys out and both teams played 513 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 6: too very last day of the season, So very possible 514 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 6: playing that number of games may may be part of this, 515 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 6: you know, it may not. Some of these injuries really 516 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 6: something related to a left shoulder, like with Nemhard, you 517 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 6: can't really trace that to you know, playing a lot 518 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 6: last year and having a short summer. But you know, 519 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 6: Ben stepping on a guy's foot in Memphis, that's you know, 520 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 6: that's that's bad luck, certainly more than anything. But it's 521 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 6: an interesting coincidence. 522 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: It is an interesting, interesting coincidence, and I think it 523 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: mostly is coincidence. It's still hard for me to wrap 524 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: my head around the fact, James, that you have some 525 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: of the most fit young athletes on the planet. And yes, 526 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: they played a lot of games until the late part 527 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: of June, but then they had six eight weeks to 528 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: kind of take care of their bodies, recover, get it back, 529 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: get yourself set up for another season. It's just hard 530 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: for me to imagine that that has a direct correlation 531 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: to a bunch of injuries right now. Like Rick said, 532 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: stepping on a guy's foot, the shoulder thing, not so 533 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: much hamstrings. I don't know, you know, like like Kevin said, 534 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm not the medical expert, but it just doesn't seem 535 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: like guys that are in their twenties for the most part, 536 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: early thirties at the latest, all of a sudden, it's 537 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 2: going to catch up with them after they've had six 538 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: or eight weeks to kind of get their body right again. 539 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: I think it's just bad luck. Man. 540 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 3: It happens to a lot of teams in this league. Unfortunately, 541 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: it's just feels like it's the Pacers turn. But at 542 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 3: the same time, you know they're not going to cry 543 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: over spiled milk. And I can also throw every other 544 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: cliche out there as well. I just think that with 545 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 3: this team and the way they're coached, they're going to 546 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: just have to suck it up and figure it out 547 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: because at the same time, there is no sympathy and 548 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: what did Rick Carloll say, There's no pancea, you know, 549 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: being offered to, no medicine, no cure for those who 550 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: didn't catch that work. I'd look it up myself. But yeah, 551 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: I think my excitement, like I alluded to yesterday and 552 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: earlier this week, is I would probably just lean more 553 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 3: into Okay, jars Walker, how are you developing? Hell, Mac mcclunk, 554 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 3: can you just dunk on somebody to not give me 555 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 3: a little juice there and see if you can run 556 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: the offense. He's someone with who's got a unique backstory, 557 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 3: so he can he's stick in the league. But I'm 558 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 3: looking more towards development more than anything, especially early on 559 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 3: considering the amount of injuries and how long guys are 560 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: going to be out. I guess his fortunate news that 561 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: according to I believe it was Dustin that he reported 562 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: in Indie Star yesterday that Andrew Demhart is back on 563 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 3: the court doing a little bit of work. Don't know 564 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: what that means as far as the status moving forward, 565 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: So that seems like it's a it's less of a 566 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: major injury, just something to monitor there, So that's a positive. 567 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's the vibes are certainly a lot different 568 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 3: than they were just four months ago when you're competing 569 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: for everything in the Game seven in the NBA Finals, 570 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 3: And for me. 571 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 4: I think it's Walker James. I mean, that is the 572 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 4: one that individually, what an unbelievable opportunity now he is 573 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 4: being given very early in this season, he already had 574 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: I think have a question for you about that actually 575 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 4: too who I think the thought was he was already 576 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 4: going to have a decent opportunity, you know with ben 577 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 4: Nick Matherin slide into that starting lineup, maybe be more 578 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 4: of a lead guy with the second unit. You know, 579 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 4: you go back to opening night, I thought he made 580 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: a couple of tough shots there, in deep in regulation 581 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 4: and overtime to help you stay in that game against 582 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 4: the thunder. But now, even if you don't view him 583 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: as a starter, which you know, who the hell knows 584 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 4: what the starting lineup is going to look like. I mean, 585 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: right now, you might say Jaris Walker is your third 586 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 4: best player Pascal Siakamerion Eyes Smith and jars Walker? Is 587 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 4: that where you would go right now? With again, I 588 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: mean Ben Shephard, I don't even know how you would 589 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: rank that. So I just think it's a huge opportunity 590 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 4: for third year pro out of Houston. 591 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: So my question is what is Jaris Walker's role number one? 592 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 3: Because I feel like we talk about this every year 593 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: and we're like, ah, he's kind of in between. But 594 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: then two, is it easier or is it harder for 595 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: him to find his role when you're so many guys 596 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: Because everyone keeps saying he has more opportunity, But I 597 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: feel like that's more opportunity to perhaps be more confused, 598 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 3: like what what do you want him to do ideally 599 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: without these guys in the lineup? 600 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 4: Is it the same thing you want to do with 601 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: them in the lineup? So what did that look like? 602 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 6: Well? 603 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 4: I think that's the hardest question about this entire season. 604 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 4: Let's just start there everything because with Tyre's Halliburton Benedic 605 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 4: Matherns role is different, Andrew Denmart's role is different. True, 606 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 4: but this is like yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah. I 607 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 4: mean I'm all out there. 608 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: Hey, Jerris, you can run the point, you can play 609 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 3: center if you want to. Tonight we don't have any players. 610 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's probably a little with this current iteration, it's 611 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: probably a little bit more offensively minded. You like, you 612 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 4: still have Nie Smith and Siakam, right So, like, theoretically, 613 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 4: when you're playing you know whatever great wings, you know, 614 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 4: Nie Smith would largely get the first call on that. Now, 615 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 4: you know, maybe you want to alleviate some of the 616 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: stress on Pascal Siakam right now, which would probably be 617 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 4: why so maybe Jerris takes on more of that second 618 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 4: kind of wing defender role, but offensively right now, you 619 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 4: need him to be a you need him to be 620 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 4: a sixteen to eighteen point night guy. I mean, that's 621 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 4: just where you're at from an available body standpoint. I 622 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 4: think it's really hard to sniff an accurate judgment on 623 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 4: the Pacers until Andrew Nmar gets back. I just I 624 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 4: mean who's the starting point guard tonight? 625 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: Maybe Max McClung. 626 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: I was like, listen to what Jeff just meant. 627 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: Maybe Mac McClung. 628 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 4: I mean, forty eight hours ago you would have been like, wait, 629 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 4: what is there a dunk contest on Halloween night in Indy? 630 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 4: What is Mac McClung doing here? And now he could 631 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: be yeah, you're starting pointing. Maybe it's right j Dennis. 632 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 4: Maybe it's Ben Shephard again, so maybe it's point forward 633 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: Jaris Walker. So yeah, James, it is a good question 634 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: because I think it are some people out there that 635 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: are like, screw it, just have Jarris, you know, be 636 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 4: a little bit of a point forward. I don't know 637 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 4: if that's necessarily the route you want to go, but again, 638 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: can he provide some consistent scoring for you. 639 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: Because right now you just desperately, desperately need it. Well, 640 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: the schedule is what the schedule is. This time of year, 641 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: it's fairly unrelenting. Right They're on a road trip right now. 642 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: They've got Dallas tonight, and that's your first chance to 643 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 2: see kind of Cooper Flag and some of the other 644 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: things that are going on there. Obviously, but it just 645 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: doesn't get any easier because you got Atlanta on Halloween night. 646 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: After next that's going to be at least at home. 647 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: Then they play Golden State the next night, so you 648 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: do come home, but then you immediately have back to backs, 649 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: and then you get a day off before you play 650 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: Monday at home against Milwaukee, another day off before you 651 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: play Wednesday against Brooklyn, and then it's back out on 652 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: the road for four or five straight. That schedule is 653 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: not conducive to guys trying to hurry up and get 654 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: healthy and mixing and matching and plugging guys in James. 655 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got beef with Steph Curry because how 656 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: dare you come to the state of Indiana your one 657 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 3: time you play here and I have to go on 658 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: the road for the Pittsburgh game. You should have consulted 659 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: with me and kind of with the NBA and rescheduled 660 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: that game. I'm like, I look forward to seeing him 661 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 3: in the pandemonium, and I told you all, it's kind 662 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: of like I would like in the fan fare we 663 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 3: see for him to Caitlyn Clark, Lebron James and others. 664 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, getting back to your point, Jeff, I think 665 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: that's every team, especially in the NBA. I think when 666 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: I the cover the NFL for so long now about 667 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: four years in, you get used to the one game 668 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 3: a week. 669 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 4: But the NBA is just not like that. 670 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: It's relentless, and so you can look at any point 671 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: in the schedule and say, you know, when is this 672 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 3: guy's gonna get healthy, And the reality of the matter 673 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 3: is you're not really supposed to. I mean, the schedule 674 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: is a schedule, and they make it months in advance, 675 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: and the ideas that you're gonna go out there and play. 676 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: So we could debate about, you know, whether or not 677 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: schedules tough or forgiving, or if it's you. 678 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 4: Know, eighty two games is too much. 679 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: And I know MJ talked yesterday about load management on 680 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: NBC and all those things, but the reality is this 681 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: isn't a team that load manages or is soft or 682 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: trying to, you know, not give the fans the right product. 683 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 3: Is just an unfortunate situation that continues to pout onto itself. 684 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: And it's a bit of an avalanche right now where 685 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 3: you know, even with Rick, I had to get a 686 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: chance to ask him this yesterday, perhaps perhaps later this 687 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 3: week when I see him at the game Friday, is 688 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: just you know, what's the balance of we're trying to 689 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: build something here this season versus we're just trying to 690 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: tread water and kind of keep our heads above water. 691 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 4: One thing to note on the Steph Curry front and 692 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 4: Golden State, no back to back before that Pacer game, 693 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: So I know I'm probably speaking to a lot of 694 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 4: parents with youngish kids out there that are in the 695 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 4: building to see Steph Curry play basketball, or just frankly 696 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 4: James Boyd's of the world that go there to watch 697 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 4: Steph Curry play basketball. No back to back for Golden 698 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 4: State that Friday leading into Saturday. So for Stef's only 699 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: trip here, I feel like it was last year, maybe 700 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 4: was the year before that he missed that game, So 701 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 4: that is good news on that front. Can I ask 702 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 4: you guys a question that I don't want to answer, 703 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 4: So I'll ask it and then turn my mic. 704 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: Off if nothing else, will defer to Mark Dykeden and 705 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: the mister wisdom over there will Yeah, I'll give you 706 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: have all the answers. 707 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 4: Who's the best college basketball or football coach in the state, 708 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 4: Matt Painter, so you're putting it all together, best college 709 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 4: coach in the state. I guess I still go, Matt, 710 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: He's done it for a long time. 711 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: Man, Kurt Signetti, I'm sorry, but that turnaround for that program. 712 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: They're competing for a national championship this year in year two, 713 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: and they were like the worst team ever in like 714 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: Division one football a couple of years ago as far 715 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: as records go. 716 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: What was it? 717 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to say, I you was like the 718 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 3: first big was it Big ten team or Division one teams? 719 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: Like a thousand losses or something. 720 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 4: Like that, Like, yeah, it's like them in Northwestern. Yeahs terrible. 721 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: It's a fair question though. He flipped it, and both 722 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: guys are going to be looking for national championships this year. 723 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 4: I just Mark, you want to drive up? You have 724 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 4: thirty one at all? 725 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 6: For me? 726 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 2: Oh I Nick, Now who would you rather have right now? 727 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman or Kurt Signetti? 728 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 4: Marcus raman Am I biased, Yeah, well, well a little bit. 729 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 3: But at the same time, Notre Dame was just in 730 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 3: the National Championships. I get this credit that the first 731 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: time they had been there in over a decade. All right, okay, 732 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: you guys seem to have think about that trio though. 733 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 3: Varying opinions on that who's the best pro basketball football 734 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 3: coach in the state. 735 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: Oh Carlo, Yeah, he's got, he's got, he's got a 736 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: track record, he's got he's got an NBA championship for 737 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: Stephanie White. Uh, she has a chance to maybe get 738 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: there in the next few years. 739 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 4: I would say a lot of her success came elsewhere, 740 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 4: you know what, sure, which I think matters. I mean, 741 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 4: I mean it's the Rick Carlisle success. A lot of 742 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: it did come elsewhere as well. 743 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he just went to the finals, so it's like, well, 744 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: there's there's your most recent success. 745 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: Think about that state wide roster of head coaches. 746 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of why I brought it up. Like 747 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,239 Speaker 4: when you think about collegiately, and again, let's not rank him. 748 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 4: Let's just now talk about him as a whole painter Signetti, 749 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 4: Marcus Freeman. 750 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: Marcus will be last on that list if we're ranking 751 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: them by the way. 752 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: You think about the pro out of spite or out 753 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: of honest just let him just let him know. 754 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, don't rank him out. We're ranking him. He's 755 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 4: he's the go ahead. I thought you said, Rick Carlo 756 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 4: just one of the finals. Didn Marcus Freeman just play 757 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 4: for the national championship. Then Rick Carlisle go last year? 758 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 4: Did Marcus Freeman go last year? 759 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 3: But in comparison to the other two on the list, 760 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 3: whereas Stephanie White just went conference finals. 761 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 4: So when you think about pro stich in Carlisle White, 762 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 4: I mean, that's it's insane that our state has that. 763 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 4: I mean those six. I mean, if you asked it 764 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 4: just league wide, how many NFL teams would ever would 765 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 4: want Chainsake And how many WNBA teams would want Stephanie White? 766 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 4: How many NBA team would want Rick? Same thing for 767 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 4: you know, the college world. I know he did it 768 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: with Signetti a few weeks ago. How many college programs 769 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 4: would take Kurtzignetti's their head coach. Same thing with college 770 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 4: basketball and Matt Painter, same thing with college football and 771 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 4: Marcus Freeman, Like our state has in those respective sports 772 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 4: the best, if not one of the best. I mean, 773 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: that is wild and you could make if we if 774 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 4: we debate classed it up. I mean, you could make 775 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 4: a strong case for all of them. Obviously, you know, 776 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 4: from Carlisle standpoint, and he's got the most Hall of 777 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 4: fame ish resume. When you go back two decades there 778 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 4: Stike and Freeman specifically are a little bit younger in 779 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: that world, so you know, one day we might be 780 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: talking about them in that realm. So yeah, it's wildly impressive. 781 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: It's fantastic, and hopefully it sets us up for just 782 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 2: an amazing run over the next many years of success 783 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: for all of these teams. Because I say it all 784 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 2: the time, you know how I feel about Indianapolis as 785 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: a sports citio. 786 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna go on that rant again, but you 787 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 4: could be looking at a big. 788 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 2: Run of success here for several years, just based on 789 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 2: that roster of head coaches right there, James, Yeah, we. 790 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 4: Could for sure. 791 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 3: I would say football is probably the most finnicky one 792 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 3: of that bunch. I mean, things can change fast in 793 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 3: this league, and depending on how things shake out, what 794 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 3: I would say, the fact that we even have this 795 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 3: conversation about Shane in particular speaks to the turnaround they've 796 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 3: had over at West fifty six. 797 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: And then you take a look at what Indiana did 798 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 2: with Dulson not too long ago, as the Penn State 799 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: job opened up, and now we see all these other 800 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 2: jobs are starting to open up in the middle of 801 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: the season. Now I saw this I'll get back on 802 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 2: track in a second. I saw this ridiculous statu yesterday 803 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: Kevin that right now major college universities in season this 804 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: year are paying over one hundred and seventy million dollars 805 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: of salary to guys that. 806 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 4: Are no longer the coaches. 807 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 2: When you add it all up together, that's crazy in 808 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 2: the middle of a year. 809 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 4: Well college, Is there a marketplace that has gotten more 810 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 4: out of hand than college football coaching salaries? Probably not. 811 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 2: And that's why I like that Scott Dawson that at 812 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: the very hint of it took a big jump up 813 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: and said, no, we're going to go all in on Kurtzignetty. 814 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 2: We're going to pay you what anybody else can pay 815 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 2: you right now. 816 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying. Yeah, like 817 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 4: eighties and universities have no control over college football coaches. 818 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 4: Non no. And if you want me, you have to 819 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 4: Why in the NFL does too? Why in the NFL 820 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 4: is it more? I say, normal, It's still a large, 821 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,399 Speaker 4: large sum of money. But like I think I saw 822 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 4: yesterday where like Barry Otom makes more than like over 823 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 4: half of NFL coaches, which is insane. 824 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 2: Good for him. 825 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 4: Well, I think good for him. 826 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 3: One of the facts is that we don't know what 827 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 3: every coach makes. We don't know what sayings tych it makes. 828 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think by all accounts, he's not making what 829 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 4: twelve thirteen million, just whatever these. 830 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 3: Which we could I mean, I know it's such your point, 831 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: but I wish we could find out what every NFL 832 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: coach makes. 833 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 4: You know, what what was Carlisle's original contract? Seven million 834 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 4: a year? Is that right? I want to say it 835 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 4: was four for twenty eight, four for twenty nine. Was 836 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 4: Rick Carlisle originally? 837 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 6: You know? 838 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 4: I mean, look at some of these coaches that are 839 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 4: making seven or eight million in college football. I mean, 840 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 4: their hint their resume is not Rick Carlisle. It's why 841 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything pro or college sports. I 842 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 4: don't think there's any profession that has more control over 843 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 4: their university, over their team than college football coaches. Like 844 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 4: you know, when you preview college games, typically what you 845 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 4: throw up is like coaches, you talk about their faces, 846 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 4: Like before they put up Bernano Mendoz's face, they put 847 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 4: up Kurtzignetti's face, before they put up Jeremiah Smith's face, 848 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 4: they put up Brian Day's face, Marcus Freeman over Jeremiah Love. 849 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 4: I mean it like the list goes on and on. 850 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 4: It's I don't know if we'll ever I think once 851 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 4: you open the can, you never are able to put 852 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 4: it back on. So I assume this isn't going to 853 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 4: change anytime soon. But you don't get this in pro 854 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 4: sports from a coaching standpoint, and I don't even I 855 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: mean college basketball, maybe you get it a little bit more. 856 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 4: I just in college football takes the cake. Well. 857 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 2: I was looking at something that the president. I was 858 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 2: looking at an interview that the President of Indiana did 859 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 2: the other day talking about how much money having a 860 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 2: successful football program brings in not only to the university, oh, 861 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 2: but to Bloomington, Yeah, and the businesses around it, and 862 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 2: how that's why you're willing to pay so much money 863 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 2: some of these mid to small towns that host these 864 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 2: college football teams. It's a it's a whole ech and no, 865 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm an ecosystem, James. And if you have the right 866 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: guy in there, and you're filling up the stadium every Saturday, 867 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 2: and you're filling up restaurants throughout the week as people 868 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: travel in to see you know, Thursday night, Friday night 869 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 2: leading up to Saturday, all those kinds of things. They 870 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 2: talked to some it was a news story, and they 871 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: were talking to some of the local restaurants and hotels 872 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: that were saying, yeah, it's it's night and day our 873 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 2: business to where it was five years ago, and I 874 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 2: had all traces back to having a successful football program. 875 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 2: It's insane. 876 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 4: KB. 877 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: We got some people in the YouTube chat saying that, 878 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 3: you know, Marcus Freeman didn't exactly take over a bad program, 879 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 3: and Notre Dame, by the way. 880 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 4: Took over for your favorite coach right a team that 881 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 4: was not playing for a national championship. 882 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 6: I know that. 883 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm here with my family, okay, O, man, all right, 884 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: great conversation about head coaches and just how important they 885 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 2: are to college football teams right now. 886 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 4: But again, Brock kissed my ass. 887 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 2: You've only said that like three times this week. We 888 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: should still get a counter. 889 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 4: Going on that. 890 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 3: I always say the grass and green, but that man 891 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 3: got a lo out of money. Life is still pretty green. 892 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 4: I wish you do what to do TV. 893 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 3: I think he gets highed. There's so many coaches coach 894 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 3: openings right now. If he coaches again, I think he 895 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 3: definitely coaches. 896 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 2: Again, would you be shocked if he showed up at 897 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: Penn State? 898 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 4: Gosh, I mean there's part of me I thinks, Okay, 899 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 4: Penn State, that's a decent higher But boy, Penn State 900 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 4: and likable head coaches talk about things that don't go hand. 901 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 5: On hands, say, can you imagine that transition James Franklin 902 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 5: to Brian Kelly? 903 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 2: Can you hate our coach more? By the way her 904 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: hand at this? 905 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 4: Would you be bitching about the band in the basement 906 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 4: of Lucas Oil Mark, like James Franklin was. 907 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,399 Speaker 2: Anonymous Texter says that Moda is not a slouch either, 908 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 2: that Mada hell of the history. 909 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so. 910 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 2: Greg wants you to know, don't forget Brian Kelly as 911 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: an emeritus coach. 912 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 4: Kevin's I probably should appreciate what Brian Kelly did. More. 913 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 2: Back on track, Richard arsays, let's not forget Scott Hey. 914 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 2: Some amazing coaches around here, certainly are Mark. Take us 915 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 2: to break my friend. We got Stephen Holder on the 916 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 2: other side at ninety three five and one seven five. Now, 917 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 2: this is the story all about how my life got 918 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 2: slip turns upside down, and I'd like to take a manager. 919 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 2: Sit right there, I'll tell you how it became the 920 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 2: Prince of a town called bel Air. Haven't heard that 921 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: one for a while. Mark dykeson Mark, are you cooking 922 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 2: something up with these re entries today? 923 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 5: And TV theme songs? Best TV themes songs? So we 924 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 5: had Family Matters already fresh Prince of bel Air. 925 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 4: Family Matters had me moving a little bit. That theme 926 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 4: song that's such a great show. Is there any particular 927 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 4: reason why? 928 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 5: Nope, just I was thinking about it for a while. 929 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, it should be. It would be fun 930 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 5: just do like re entries of like awesome TV show intro. 931 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 5: So I'm like, today's the day we're doing it. I 932 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 5: put it in a request for later on sure which Uh? 933 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 5: I love Lucy theme? 934 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 4: Do you want? Come on? 935 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: Magnum p? 936 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 4: I okay, it's one of the great ones right there, 937 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 4: he said, I love Lucy. 938 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 2: You would think I'm like one hundred and seventy. 939 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 4: I was curious one stereotypical old show Mark was gonna 940 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 4: name and I love Lucy. 941 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: Uh, Steven Holder, what's your all time favorite TV theme? 942 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 2: I know you've got one, my friend. 943 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 8: Oh my god, you know, I don't. I don't know 944 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 8: that the song was really all that big a deal. 945 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 8: But when I was like eight years old, when the 946 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 8: theme song for Chips Patrol came on. 947 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 4: I was like I lost it. I was like glued 948 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 4: to the TV. 949 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 8: So I don't I think I wanted to be Officer 950 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 8: Punch when I was like when I was like seven 951 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 8: years old. 952 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: So I think we all did. 953 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 8: James has no idea what we're talking about. 954 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 4: Look, I was gonna just keep it going. I was 955 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 4: going to lay low. 956 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 3: But since you put it out there, yeah, I have 957 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,800 Speaker 3: no idea what you mean by officer or anything. 958 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 8: Your dad definitely watched that show. 959 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 7: There it is, there it is. 960 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 4: This is a classic seven stuff still started in the seventies. 961 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 8: I did not watch it in the seventies, to be clear, 962 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 8: Like I probably thought it like nineteen eighty two. 963 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 2: So anyway, So such as the effect of that show 964 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 2: though when you watch it as a as a young 965 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 2: person or a kid. My son and I were in 966 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 2: Los Angeles week before last, and every time I would 967 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: see a State Highway Patrol motorcycle on the freeway, Yeah, oh, 968 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 2: I thought, was it's I told my son, and he 969 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 2: looked at me like I had three heads. Hey, there's 970 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 2: Chips right there, and he's. 971 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 4: Like, what are you talking about? 972 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 8: Oh, listen, the Colts had an escort coming into the 973 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 8: stadium and it was Chips. It was it was officer 974 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 8: Punch the motorcycle. It was the full circle moment. 975 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 2: Steven Holder at ESPN dot com joined us on the 976 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 2: Payless Liquors Hotline this morning, the seven and one Indianapolis Colts. 977 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna throw that out there and let you 978 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 2: pontificate the seven and one Indianapolis Colts. 979 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 4: Steven, all right, so let's do this. 980 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 8: I'll repeat what I said to Jake on the midday 981 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 8: Show yesterday. They are the most complete team in the 982 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 8: NFL period. Yeah, I said that, And here's let me 983 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 8: give you the context. The context is this. Obviously, there's 984 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 8: no weaknesses on their offense. I mean, they're not even 985 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 8: really a team that's built around the quarterback, even even 986 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 8: though no one is taking any credit away from them 987 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 8: Daniel Jones obviously right, but they are perfectly built. You 988 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 8: can't stop the run, you can't stop the pass, you 989 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 8: can't seize on any one guy, so pretty impenetrable there. Defensively, 990 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 8: I think they're going to continue to get better. I 991 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 8: don't look at I don't look at this team and say, well, 992 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 8: let me rephrase that, if they get there, if they 993 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 8: get their secondary back intact, I think that will definitely 994 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 8: be true, right, that will no longer be as much 995 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 8: of a weakness. And so I like what they have 996 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 8: up front as long as they can kind of, you know, 997 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 8: buy them some time to get to the quarterback with 998 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 8: an actual secondary that's not made up of practice squad 999 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 8: players when this team is healthy. 1000 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 4: And it will be. 1001 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 8: This is I think the most complete team in the NFL. 1002 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 8: And special teams, by the way, not too bad, they're either. 1003 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,720 Speaker 3: So Steven, I do want to pivot to Jonathan Taylor. 1004 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 3: And I know you all at ESPN usually put out 1005 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 3: all these crazy stats, and there are times and I'll 1006 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 3: troll you in the press box because I'm like, all right, 1007 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 3: enough is enough. You know, this is the first guy 1008 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 3: since to do this on a Tuesday, since the merging 1009 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 3: of like you know, Earth or something like that, and 1010 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, like that's enough. But I would 1011 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 3: say all of us have pulled like just great simple 1012 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 3: crazy facts, like one of them being that JT leads 1013 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 3: a league in scrimmage touchdowns and he's on pace to 1014 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 3: have over thirty touchdowns, and if he is able to 1015 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 3: do that, he'd be the first guy since Ladenian Tomins 1016 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 3: in two thousand and six who won MVP. So all 1017 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 3: that to say, how realistic do you think it is 1018 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 3: for him to actually win that award? Given that he 1019 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 3: is a running back? But two, he's on a team 1020 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 3: that's operating at a historic place offensively. 1021 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 8: So I will say this though, the last time we 1022 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 8: had this conversation about Jonathan Taylor, which was what twenty 1023 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 8: twenty one, because it was a topic back then, I 1024 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 8: think his candidacy at that point was much less realistic 1025 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 8: because the team was just kind of you know, he 1026 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 8: didn't have at least you couldn't demonstrate that he had 1027 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 8: the impact. Here, it's a much stronger argument now. Do 1028 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,280 Speaker 8: I think he's gonna win it? I don't, just because 1029 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 8: I think voters are conditioned to vote for quarterbacks. However, 1030 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 8: this might be a perfect storm if there ever was one. 1031 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 8: You know, where's Lamar Jackson right now? 1032 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,120 Speaker 4: Who knows? 1033 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 8: Right? I mean the guy who seems to win it 1034 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 8: every other year, Josh Allen is the is the current 1035 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 8: VP from last year? Is he worthy of it? Right now, 1036 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 8: I would say no. Now, Patrick Mahoons is going to 1037 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 8: make a run, I have no doubt because that's what 1038 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 8: he does. So we'll see what happens there. But I mean, 1039 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 8: outside of that, who are we talking about. I've heard 1040 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 8: the name Drake May, which I don't hate. I mean, 1041 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 8: I really think the Patriots are putting something together, and 1042 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 8: he is playing great and he also plays quarterback. But 1043 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 8: I mean, all I'm saying is, if there was ever 1044 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 8: a time when a court, excuse me, when a running 1045 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 8: back in today's age was going to have a shot, 1046 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 8: this is probably it. And what he's doing is within 1047 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 8: the context of the best offense in the NFL, and 1048 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 8: I think that matters a lot. So this could be 1049 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 8: a storyline. 1050 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 4: We'll see ESPN where you can find the work of 1051 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 4: Steven Holders with us here on the Payless Slickers hotline. 1052 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 4: Stephen Trade deadline six days away. We saw a couple 1053 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 4: of moves around the league here earlier this week. The Colts, 1054 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 4: we wait and see, what do you think would be 1055 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 4: a reason why they would not make a move? Well, 1056 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 4: I just strive draft picks. 1057 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 8: Yeah they do. And and look, I mean I've I've 1058 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 8: thought about this right like you know, the whole idea 1059 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 8: that you know, Chris Ballard doesn't like to part with 1060 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,439 Speaker 8: his draft picks. But I was also thinking at one point, 1061 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 8: all right, well this year, all bets are off because 1062 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 8: you guys are about to get fired if you don't 1063 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 8: get it together. Well, ain't nobody getting fired now? Okay, 1064 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 8: I'm here to tell you if this thing keeps up, 1065 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 8: I don't even know that that's even a topic of conversation, right. 1066 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 8: So so therefore Chris Ballard is probably thinking long term again, 1067 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 8: and he should be. But I just wonder, you know, 1068 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 8: he's trying to strike that balance and he always is, 1069 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 8: and what does that How does that influence him? I 1070 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 8: don't know. Now. I do think this is this is 1071 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 8: an opportunity they've never had this season generally. So I 1072 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 8: don't think he make a trade for the sake of 1073 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 8: making the trade. It has to be something that makes 1074 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 8: a difference. I think some of these pass rushers that 1075 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 8: have been mentioned, they have guys like that already, you know, 1076 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 8: and you'd just be adding more of what you already 1077 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 8: have and there's only so many snaps. Does that make 1078 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 8: a concerted difference in the outcome? I don't think so. 1079 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 8: Now if you can get someone that is a game changer, 1080 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 8: and then that's a different conversation, and there you're willing 1081 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 8: to give up a more substance of package of picks, obviously, 1082 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 8: But I hesitate to predict they're going to make a move, 1083 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 8: just because I don't know that the moves that will 1084 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 8: make a difference for them are our move that Chris 1085 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 8: Ballard would entertain. But we'll see. 1086 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 2: It's talking to Stephenholder ESPN dot com here on the 1087 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 2: Payless Slickers hotline. Could you imagine you and I having 1088 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 2: a conversation over coffee three years ago and I say, 1089 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 2: you know, don't worry about anything, Steven. In a few 1090 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 2: years Daniel Jones will be starting at quarterback for the Colts. 1091 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 2: They're going to be seven to one. They'll be taking 1092 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 2: on Pittsburgh quarterback by Aaron Rodgers. Could you have imagined 1093 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 2: that conversation over coffee three years ago. 1094 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 7: No. 1095 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 8: I think one of the things that that I think 1096 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 8: has changed so much in the NFL in recent years 1097 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,839 Speaker 8: is the quarterback movement. You know, and there was there's 1098 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,240 Speaker 8: always been quarterback movement, right, I mean, guys play somewhere 1099 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 8: for a long time at the end of their careers, 1100 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 8: they move on to another place. Philip Rivers did it here, 1101 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 8: et cetera. 1102 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 4: Right, But it's. 1103 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 8: Becoming, I think, a more frequent phenomenon now and and 1104 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 8: and they're changing teams more often. I mean, Aaron Rodgers 1105 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 8: is gonna this is what is thirdeam. I think this 1106 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 8: is it. But I mean my point is it's just 1107 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 8: become it's become a much more commonplace thing. And I 1108 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 8: think the reason for it is. You you know, teams 1109 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 8: want to draft quarterbacks, clearly, but that is also such 1110 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 8: a dicey proposition. And and when you draft them now 1111 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 8: you're expected to play them, and that's just so hard. 1112 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 8: I mean, we know that as much as anybody in 1113 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,919 Speaker 8: this market, and playing them immediately is such a hard 1114 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 8: thing to accomplish and to do well that there are 1115 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 8: going to be teams that are just gonna say, we 1116 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 8: can't afford to go that route. And you're seeing a 1117 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 8: lot more of that now. So I don't know, I 1118 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 8: don't know if this is making any sense, but I 1119 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 8: just think the quarterback movement and the motivations behind it 1120 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 8: and the dynamics of it all has evolved so much 1121 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 8: and it continues to do that. You know consistently every year. 1122 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,399 Speaker 8: I mean, look what's happened with Daniel Jones and Sam 1123 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 8: Donald this year will only increase. I think the likelihood 1124 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 8: of some of this happening more and. 1125 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 4: More, Steven, Who is the best coach wide receiver this season? 1126 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 8: That is a hard question, and that's a good thing. 1127 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,240 Speaker 8: I mean, ask me today, ask me tomorrow, ask me Thursday, 1128 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 8: I mean Friday. I might give you different answers. I 1129 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:03,720 Speaker 8: think I will say the most consistent is Michael Pittman Jr. 1130 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 8: That's not the question, right Who's the best? I don't know. 1131 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 8: I think I think it's whoever Sainstykein wants it to be, 1132 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 8: you know, because a lot of it is predicated on 1133 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 8: who do I want the ball to go to? Because 1134 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 8: he can do that right that his scheme is very versatile. 1135 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:22,439 Speaker 6: And then. 1136 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 8: Daniel Jones is doing a good job obviously of going 1137 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 8: to the receiver that makes the most sense, so they 1138 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 8: have a good thing going. I will say, I really 1139 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 8: do think Michael Pittman deserves a lot of credit for 1140 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,319 Speaker 8: for his touchdowns this season. I think he's what got 1141 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 8: six I believe, yep, which matches a career high. If 1142 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 8: I'm not mistaken. I mean, that's a pretty impressive thing 1143 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,399 Speaker 8: to say about a guy who's effectively been their number 1144 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 8: one receiver for a long time. I think that's been 1145 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,240 Speaker 8: a criticism of him, a very valid criticism that, like, buddy, 1146 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 8: you got to put points on the board at that position. 1147 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 8: When you're getting as many as he has over the 1148 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 8: last few years, I think he has fallen very short 1149 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 8: on the touchdowns. So for whatever reason, lots of things, 1150 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 8: I think, lots of factors, I think, but him getting 1151 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 8: into the end zone this year I think is very impressive, 1152 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 8: and I think it's like the cherry on top and 1153 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 8: what was missing in his game. So I give him 1154 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 8: a lot of credit for that. I say, Michael Pittman, 1155 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 8: I guess by default. But the ball can go to 1156 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 8: anybody on any given day. 1157 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Alec Pierce is a decent case. I 1158 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 3: think he's a more developed receiver than he's been early 1159 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 3: in his career, and he still has some of the 1160 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,919 Speaker 3: best catches he'll see on some of those deep balls. 1161 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 3: But then on top of that, the reason I asked 1162 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 3: that is because talking to Pittman after Sunday's game, he said, yeah, 1163 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 3: I'm glad to have six touchdowns and obviously he's you know, 1164 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 3: keeping track, but at the same time he was like, 1165 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 3: I have to make the play because I don't know 1166 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 3: if I'm going to get the ball again. And I 1167 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 3: thought that was like the most like selfish but unselfish answer. 1168 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:56,919 Speaker 3: If that makes sense. 1169 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 8: It is and it is the beauty of the Colts offense, 1170 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 8: honestly and shame Stikeen says it all the time. We 1171 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 8: want to be multiple and it sounds like coach speak, 1172 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 8: and it is coach speak, but it's also true. He 1173 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,400 Speaker 8: is a big believer and not allowing a defense to 1174 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 8: pin them down, you know. I mean it's like it's 1175 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,839 Speaker 8: maybe it's like a basketball team, right. I always use 1176 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 8: these basketball analogies. I mean, you can go double a 1177 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 8: guy who gets thirty a night, but if you're a 1178 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 8: balanced scoring team, I mean take Pacers last year, right, 1179 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 8: I mean the ball moved and everybody could score the ball. Right, 1180 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 8: It's a little bit like that. I think those are 1181 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 8: harder teams to defend in terms of your strategy. I'm 1182 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 8: not saying you can go stop the guy who can 1183 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 8: get thirty five at night. I'm not saying that's easy, 1184 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 8: but you know where the ball is going right, that 1185 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 8: you can devote resources to that you can strategize for that. 1186 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,879 Speaker 8: What's the strategy when the ball can go to any 1187 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 8: one of five people any play and if none of 1188 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 8: them get it, I'll just check it down to the 1189 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 8: best running back in the NFL. 1190 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 4: So good luck with that, Steven. I want to go 1191 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 4: back to you know you were saying the Colts are 1192 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 4: the most complete team. I feel like it's more of 1193 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 4: a Your offense is an A plus, A plus plus 1194 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 4: plus plus, and your defense is like, I don't know, 1195 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 4: a C plus right now, whereas other teams in the 1196 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,320 Speaker 4: league might have like B plus B plus for example, 1197 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 4: or like I look at I don't know Detroit or 1198 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 4: Green Bay or maybe Kansas City. Like to me, the 1199 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,760 Speaker 4: Colts right now are the best team in the NFL 1200 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 4: because their offense is historically great, not because of their 1201 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 4: overall completion. Is that where you would disagree with that? 1202 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 8: Well, so I get it. Yeah, the defense, I think 1203 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 8: the eye tests on the defense raises a lot of questions. 1204 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 8: I mean I see the same games you see, right, 1205 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 8: I do take the injuries into account a lot, and 1206 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 8: you know, look they are what they are. I'm not 1207 00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 8: we can't pretend they don't exist. Those guys are not 1208 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 8: out there. So that's a real thing. Uh, what I 1209 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,800 Speaker 8: will say, and I think lou Anna Rumo alluded to this, 1210 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 8: they're not giving up necessarily the huge numbers of points. 1211 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,720 Speaker 8: And then the other thing is, uh, their efficiency ratings 1212 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 8: are pretty good. 1213 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 4: And and I am not looking. 1214 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 8: You know, James is making fun of our advanced stats 1215 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 8: and I do too, But I will say this, I 1216 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 8: think those things tend to ring true when you really 1217 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 8: look at it in reality, when you look at like 1218 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 8: who who the teams are that that rank high, and 1219 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 8: like things like DVOA and and efficiency ratings and things 1220 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 8: of that nature. They tend to pan out when you 1221 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 8: really think about it and you really look a look 1222 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 8: at it in depth. And I just think at the 1223 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 8: end of the day, like they're giving up a lot 1224 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 8: of They're giving up a lot of yards, no question 1225 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 8: about it. So some of that is a product of 1226 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 8: the fact that they are leading in many cases by 1227 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 8: three touchdowns. You're going to give up yards when teams 1228 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,319 Speaker 8: are throwing the ball, you know, forty forty five times 1229 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,800 Speaker 8: a game, which is what they're facing, right, So I 1230 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 8: get I think it's a little skewed. I don't think 1231 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 8: they're a great defense, but I think they're good enough. 1232 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 8: And I also would say, look look around the league. 1233 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 8: There aren't a lot of teams playing playing you know, lockdown, 1234 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 8: knockout defense right now. I mean, you know, scoring is high, 1235 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 8: all these things. So I don't I don't know that 1236 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 8: they're like a huge outlier there. I think their defense 1237 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 8: is fine and adequate and will get better, perhaps substantially better, 1238 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 8: you know, with some return from injuries. So you know, 1239 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 8: I don't know what the grade is, but I think 1240 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 8: it's it's worthy. It's they have a worthy defense, I 1241 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 8: would say. 1242 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 3: According to ESPN Stats and Info, Jonathan Taylor is the 1243 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 3: first player to have three touchdowns and a dome on 1244 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 3: a Sunday in October since you know Willie Lee Smith 1245 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 3: in nineteen. 1246 00:57:55,600 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 4: Probably true. Man, Look there's nothing room. I'm like, is 1247 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 4: this you know. 1248 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 3: This English for He's just good, you know, So I 1249 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 3: appreciate you having a little fun there, Steven. 1250 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 8: Hey, listen, there's a whole there's a whole department of 1251 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 8: of nerds that are really good that stuff. So I 1252 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 8: got to show them their love, uh, you know, some respect. 1253 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 3: And I have used a couple of my stories when 1254 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 3: they fit you know what I'm writing, So thank you 1255 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 3: for that. 1256 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 8: So listen, listen those guys. Those guys studied really hard 1257 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 8: in math class, so like, hey, let's give them their problems. 1258 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 2: You got forty eight hours to go find a Chips 1259 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 2: Halloween costume to answer the door in there. 1260 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 4: There you go, there is some short short. I was 1261 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 4: about to say, you'll be scaring the neighbors. 1262 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 6: Man. 1263 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 4: I don't want to see you on the news all that, 1264 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 4: Lawrence P. D oh Man. I think I think our 1265 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 4: segment is over all right, buddy, I have a good one. 1266 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you later. Stephen Holder, ESPN dot com. 1267 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 6: Uh. 1268 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,439 Speaker 2: You know one of the things when I was working 1269 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 2: at ESPN, every day you would walk in there was 1270 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 2: a probably a ten twelve page packet both sides of 1271 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 2: the paper of just odd statistical anomalies like that for 1272 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 2: you to use or not use at your discretion. They 1273 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 2: had an entire statistical department, several guys working night and 1274 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 2: day to come up with stuff like that. 1275 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 3: One of my favorite I don't know if it's a 1276 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 3: pastime where it's like a routine after every Colts home game, 1277 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 3: Mike Chappelell sits a few seas down from me, and 1278 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 3: he actually sits next to KB. But by the time 1279 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 3: Kb's usually gone and me and chaper in there and 1280 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 3: chaps Aw I's saying I'm writing too slow, Like what 1281 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 3: are you still doing here? 1282 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 4: Both writing too slow? 1283 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 3: And then Hayden Clark, who Kevin knows is like the 1284 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 3: Colts stats guy who by yes, shout out to Hayden Clark. 1285 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 3: He'll walk by and then I'll see Chap hold this 1286 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 3: piece of paper up with all the little stats to 1287 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 3: give us after the game about the Colts, and he's like, 1288 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 3: I just got one little question about this thing here, 1289 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 3: and then I'll go over it and chap will find 1290 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 3: not like a mistake, but he'd be like, did you 1291 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 3: account for this? Did this since the team moved to 1292 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 3: Indianapolis in ninet eighty four, is in the Super Bowl era? 1293 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 3: Get a little more context here, And I'm like, that 1294 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 3: is a man who loves accuracy and loves his stats. 1295 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,439 Speaker 4: Chap and Michael Presty, longtime legend in the state as 1296 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 4: a sports honestly nationally as a writer. He's taking it 1297 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 4: down from Mike Chapel. Those two thumb through the Media 1298 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 4: Guide like Mark Dyke and thumbs through Playboys, they're still 1299 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 4: around physical copies. 1300 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 2: You got any of those in your basement? 1301 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 4: Are you talking about? Are you talking about the Playboys? Mark? 1302 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1303 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 5: You tell me no, those are long. Well I think 1304 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 5: my mom threw those out. She found him and threw 1305 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 5: them out. Those are my w W Diva ones. 1306 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 4: Keep them there. Mark's climbing on the waste management truck, 1307 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 4: writing it down God neighborhood to get them back. There's 1308 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 4: valuables in there. 1309 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:50,919 Speaker 2: What are you gonna be for Halloween? As you walk 1310 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 2: the kids out there? 1311 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:52,160 Speaker 4: Anything? 1312 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 5: I've got a couple ideas. I'm not sure exactly which 1313 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 5: way we're going yet, so we'll have to see if 1314 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 5: the Amazon truck delivers on time. Like guess we're playing 1315 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 5: that game of risk, so we'll see. 1316 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 6: Oh. 1317 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 2: One of my favorites that the boys and I did, 1318 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. They were probably nine and ten that year. 1319 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 2: We were all Ghostbusters. 1320 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 4: That was kind of fun. That's a solid one was Ghostbuster. 1321 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 9: Growing up. 1322 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 4: I was Jim Carrey the mask at one point. Oh, 1323 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 4: that's cool. You have to put in makeup on. Wow. 1324 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 2: On that note, Mark, let's go. 1325 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 3: Kevin you can punch him. 1326 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 4: What was that, Kevin? You can punch him if you 1327 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 4: want to. 1328 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 6: Wow. 1329 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 4: You know, like brothers, you gotta le him duke it out. 1330 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 2: Every now and this all of a sudden, this is 1331 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 2: going to turn into a waffle house Friday night. 1332 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 4: If we're not Karl, I have anything nice to say, 1333 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 4: don't say anything at all. I learned that from my 1334 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 4: mother at a young age. Ah right, we learn that 1335 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 4: less whatever. 1336 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 7: I like. 1337 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 2: NFL Colts at Steelers Sunday afternoon, one o'clock. Uh, it'll 1338 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 2: be a seven and one team the Colts. Man, Can 1339 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 2: they really start to set themselves up for I know 1340 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 2: this sounds crazy only eight games into the season, Kevin. 1341 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 2: They can start setting themselves up for home field advantage 1342 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 2: and some playoff games over these next four or five weeks. 1343 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,280 Speaker 2: Here how many games of the Colts win last year? 1344 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 4: Eight? 1345 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:10,439 Speaker 8: Eight? 1346 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,959 Speaker 4: So they can tie their win total by week nine 1347 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 4: on November second. Yeah, that's crazy. How crazy is that? 1348 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 4: I had him winning nine games? Hell, they might already 1349 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 4: get there by before their bye week. Yeah, special stuff. Mark. 1350 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,240 Speaker 2: Remember when everybody made fun of me for for saying 1351 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 2: they could win ten and then I said, kind of 1352 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 2: off the cuff. Who knows eleven? And you guys held 1353 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 2: me to that for a long time. 1354 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 4: Yeah at fifteen and one for two. 1355 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,439 Speaker 5: No, no one ever said fifteen the ad Mitchell yeah 1356 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 5: one for such counter is still still happening, but it's 1357 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 5: still live. 1358 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 4: That could happen, still live. No, that could not happen. 1359 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. 1360 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 2: He doesn't drop that football, which is the most ad 1361 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 2: Mitchell thing ever. 1362 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 3: He still wasn't going to get eighty catches. 1363 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that guy is incredibly talented. 1364 01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 4: You'd like to win total and move on to take you. 1365 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 2: I still like his career down the road, man, I 1366 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 2: really do. Maybe I'm too early on it, but anyway, 1367 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 2: one o'clock Sunday afternoon, Colts at Steelers. Our pregame coverage 1368 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 2: here on the fan begins at ten a m. As 1369 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 2: far as our coverage to the Indiana Pacers, it resumes 1370 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,880 Speaker 2: later on tonight, also at eight pm this evening with 1371 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 2: the pregame Mark Boyle and Pat Boiling and then Tip 1372 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 2: at eight point thirty their first chance to take on 1373 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 2: Cooper flag and who knows what the starting five is 1374 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 2: going to look like. Kevin Bowen, you want to take 1375 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 2: a shot Mark. 1376 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 4: Thank you for clarifying that I've never punched you in 1377 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 4: the YouTube chat as someone someone asks, Yeah, that's it's 1378 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 4: all in fun. Actually, yeah, we're friends here. I punched 1379 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,919 Speaker 4: Mark one three or four times my kids. 1380 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1381 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 4: Here we are seven am every morning. Yeah, I have 1382 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 4: no freaking idea starting lineup. Shepherd Niece Smith, Siakam Huff Jackson. 1383 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 4: Didn't Rick Carlisle say they might go bigger with Dallas. 1384 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I got a flight to catch to Dallas 1385 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 3: later today because I got my Hallo burdens in my 1386 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 3: backpack here, So we'll we'll get out there. 1387 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 4: Mac McClung over under twenty and a half minutes tonight. Oh, 1388 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. 1389 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 2: Oh first one, I'll stay under probably like sixteen to eighteen. 1390 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 2: That's a good number. Kevin, Oh, I might take the over. 1391 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 4: They have no guards. Yeah, it's like him and Ray 1392 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 4: J Dennis. Yeah. I thought Rick spoke decently highly of him. 1393 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 4: I thought Scott Agnes reported Monty Morris and Cody Martin 1394 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,440 Speaker 4: the other two in the workout yesterday, that mac McClung 1395 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 4: won there. So yeah, Pacer seven point underdog and the 1396 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 4: big news yesterday on that injury report. Two things I 1397 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 4: guess ben Nick Matheren listed as week to week and 1398 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 4: obi top and stress reaction in the foot will miss 1399 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 4: at least a month. So you're looking at, at the minimum, 1400 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 4: just under twenty games, and I stressed at the minimum. 1401 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 5: Their starting lineup is like if you guys have played 1402 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 5: like the most recent like Madden or NBA Live games, 1403 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 5: there's like where you can play the trade the Ultimate 1404 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 5: team where you get the trading cards and you start 1405 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 5: it and usually get like one really good player and 1406 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 5: then the rest of crap or like in like the 1407 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 5: fifties and sixties, like I gotta build this team up. 1408 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 5: That's kind of what they're is looking like at the moment. 1409 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 5: We're like I have Ray J Dennis here, I've Mac. 1410 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 4: Mclung, and I get more listeners if I punched Mark 1411 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 4: once a week on the YouTube camera or vice versa. 1412 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 4: I'm all for the views, so we can do that. 1413 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 4: Trust me. At times we've been desperate for some asking. 1414 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 3: To make our own little w WE segment for the 1415 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 3: HR folks listening. 1416 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 2: I do not sanction any of this, and I'm advising 1417 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 2: both of them to not do that. 1418 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 4: Snitch Jeff. 1419 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 2: Listeners are listeners, right, I mean, come on, clicks or 1420 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 2: clicks right. I'm just saying I'm the one that would 1421 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 2: get in trouble. 1422 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 4: You guys wouldn't even get the room. 1423 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, out dad has ruined the fun. 1424 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 2: Uh think about this though, I'm looking at it right now. 1425 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 2: Andrew Nemhart out, Benedict Matherin out, Johnny Furfey out, Obi 1426 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 2: top and out. Uh, Taylor Peter day to day just 1427 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 2: goes on and on and on. That's not even counting 1428 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 2: the Halliburton News out for the whole year. Welcome to 1429 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 2: the Pacers this year. That's where we're at, all right. 1430 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 2: Let's check out some college basketball last night, one game 1431 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 2: in the state, Valpo over Brescia one oh four to 1432 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 2: sixty two. 1433 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 5: Later on tonight, though, keep saying like someone sneezer saying, lession, 1434 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 5: I know what it sounds like. 1435 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 2: Indiana State will be up at hinkl. That one starts 1436 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 2: at seven six thirty airtime on our sister station, Fuego 1437 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 2: ninety two point seven, and Indianapolis makes their way up 1438 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 2: the highway to go to West Loafaiette. I'll take on Perdue. 1439 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 2: That one also starts at seven o'clock. If you want 1440 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 2: to watch some Purdue boiler Maker basketball their final I 1441 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 2: think it's their last exhibition game. 1442 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 4: I believe it's a big ten plus for Perdue. All right. 1443 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 2: Major League Baseball. Last night World Series Toronto Blue Jays 1444 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,920 Speaker 2: evened up the series at two apiece. They beat shohe 1445 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 2: Otani and the Dodgers by a score of six to two. 1446 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 2: TONI made one mistake in that second inning last night, 1447 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 2: and Vladgeroo Junior did not let it get away. Kevin Man, 1448 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 2: he took that one off. 1449 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm lad quite the shot there by the Blue 1450 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 4: Jays star. So I think we've gotten great theater, the 1451 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 4: stars that have risen to the stage of what the 1452 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 4: Fall Classic goes all about. So to too. And now 1453 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 4: we go back to our Game one matchup here tonight, 1454 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 4: final game in LA and we know we'll at least 1455 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 4: have a Game six in Toronto, and we'll see we'll 1456 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 4: have our first seven game World Series. And I think 1457 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 4: it's like six or seven years. 1458 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 5: Did you guys see that the Dodgers have recouped the 1459 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 5: salary of Shoho Tani in just two years, that big 1460 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,440 Speaker 5: money contract that all the MLB teams were afraid to 1461 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,400 Speaker 5: hand out. They've recooped it and then some in just 1462 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 5: two years. And in two years he's barely pitched. Isn't 1463 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 5: that wild? Yeah, Like every owner is like, oh, we 1464 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 5: can't pay that, that's insane. And then it's like, look 1465 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 5: at all the endorsements and all the international deals and 1466 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 5: all that stuff. 1467 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,919 Speaker 4: He's a superstar. Yeah, he's just fun to watch. 1468 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 2: So like what idiots Smoltz was talking about him last 1469 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 2: night that underneath all of it, it's the kid that 1470 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,040 Speaker 2: grew up in the backyard with his dad who just 1471 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 2: has fun playing baseball. 1472 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 3: Didn't have much fun last night show. Hey, get it together, brother. 1473 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,120 Speaker 3: As a lifelong Dodgers fan of the last two days, 1474 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 3: get it together, alright? 1475 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 2: Anybody up for a rematch of Manny Pacio and Floyd 1476 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 2: Mayweather Junior No. Forty six and forty eight, they would 1477 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 2: be we can hit the. 1478 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 4: Brake now, two relics fighting each other in Dinosaur. What 1479 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 4: streaming service is this on? 1480 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 2: They fought in twenty and fifteen and they were too 1481 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 2: old for that fight. If you remember that was that 1482 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 2: was like five seven years overdue. The definition of live 1483 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,799 Speaker 2: sports is really stretching. 1484 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 4: They have alive on that. 1485 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna do it, but Manny Pacio 1486 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,680 Speaker 2: was throwing it out there last night. So that's what's 1487 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,080 Speaker 2: happening in the world of sports. We'll check in on 1488 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 2: the Colts again coming up in a moment, and also 1489 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,759 Speaker 2: what the Pacers are going to do for a starting 1490 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 2: lineup tonight. What your feedback as well, two three nine 1491 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 2: ten seventy on the fan text line two three nine 1492 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 2: ten seventy. We'll get some of those as we continue 1493 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 2: here on a Wednesday morning. Mark's safe to say that 1494 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 2: Al Bundy is one of the great characters all time 1495 01:08:52,720 --> 01:09:00,559 Speaker 2: on sitcoms Uh huh, man can I would agree? Four touchdown, Polka. 1496 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 5: I tried to be like Bluie's dad. I try to 1497 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,759 Speaker 5: like replicate that parentship, and I turned into Al Bundy 1498 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,920 Speaker 5: more than others alone Marsh Stan Marsh's dad, Randy. 1499 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 2: Did you ever have a chance to watch that show? 1500 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:14,559 Speaker 2: Very much? 1501 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 4: Kevin? Is that Frank Sinatra Mark. 1502 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,920 Speaker 5: Is Married with Children a nineties classic and introduced the 1503 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 5: world to Christina Applegate back in the day. 1504 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 4: Okay, Mark Dyton TV theme song re entries throughout this 1505 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 4: show today excellent, Just for the heck of it. 1506 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 6: I like it. 1507 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:32,360 Speaker 4: I'm liking it a lot. 1508 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 2: Give us your feedback. Two three, nine, ten seventy on 1509 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,840 Speaker 2: the fan text line, guys, the Indianapolis Colts taking on 1510 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers Sunday afternoon at one o'clock, going on 1511 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 2: the road, and what'd you say? 1512 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 6: This spread was? 1513 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 2: Right now? 1514 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 4: Covin favored by a field goal. The Colts have won 1515 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:52,880 Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh one time since moving here. I want to 1516 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:58,240 Speaker 4: say it was eight years, yes, but you know, honestly 1517 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,640 Speaker 4: lost several times with Peyton at in Pittsburgh there, so 1518 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 4: I think it was Dominique Rhodes had a notable game. 1519 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 4: So yeah, it has not been a place I remember 1520 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 4: Antonio Brown humping the goalpost after a punt return for 1521 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 4: a touchdown one year. I think the cult are actually heavy, 1522 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,640 Speaker 4: not a heavy favorite, but I think it was the 1523 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,439 Speaker 4: other time they were favored there. I want to say 1524 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,599 Speaker 4: it was with luck maybe that AFC title year. 1525 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 2: Where was that even rank in the top five of 1526 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,720 Speaker 2: Antonio Brown's craziest moments? Does it even make the top five? 1527 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 4: Probably does not? Good thing Joe Buck wasn't on the 1528 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 4: call for that one, because if he was anything like 1529 01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 4: a random Moss call back in the day. 1530 01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,520 Speaker 2: I didn't he say it was discussed disgusting display. 1531 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Honestly, like looking at the playback, you would think 1532 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 3: the man I literally stripped down. Well he did was 1533 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 3: just pretend to do something. 1534 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 2: Basically what he was doing in the context at the 1535 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 2: time was every time opposing uh, they would they would 1536 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,679 Speaker 2: take the bust there, Opposing fans on the way out 1537 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,639 Speaker 2: of the game would always, you know, show him the backside. 1538 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:55,760 Speaker 2: So that's kind of what he was. 1539 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,799 Speaker 4: Change taking his own the Steelers. From a scoring standpoint, 1540 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,160 Speaker 4: what you're say, he's gonna show him his backside? Yeah, maybe, 1541 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,400 Speaker 4: And if you listen to Pittsburgh right now, it is 1542 01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 4: dire from a defensive standpoint. 1543 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,720 Speaker 3: I tucked to one of my buddies who covers them, 1544 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,520 Speaker 3: Mike de Faybo, this week that hopped on his podcast, 1545 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,640 Speaker 3: and he was saying, Yeah, they're worried about what this 1546 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 3: offense could do to their defense, and the understanding that 1547 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 3: I have is that their defense doesn't really change. And 1548 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 3: it's probably a similar approach to what we saw from 1549 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,759 Speaker 3: the Chargers, where they're going to play their certain style 1550 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 3: and hope that they're just better at you and executing it. 1551 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,960 Speaker 3: But they don't really change much according to what Mike 1552 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 3: was telling me. So shout out to Mike de Fabo. 1553 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, they're not feeling good about this defense at all, 1554 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 3: like at all when it comes to what's happening. And 1555 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 3: like you said earlier in the show, Kevin, when you 1556 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 3: can act questions to my Tomlin, hey, are you gonna 1557 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 3: take over defensive play calling, they'll let you know how 1558 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 3: dire things are for a team that historically is you'ed 1559 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 3: as the rough and tough Steelers, they're not that this year. 1560 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,160 Speaker 4: Thirty five nothing, thirty five thirty twenty seven. Those are 1561 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 4: the point total Stych put up against Mike Tomlin and 1562 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 4: Tara Austin's their defensive coordinator each of the last three years. 1563 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,639 Speaker 4: So I was a watch Sunday Night football. You saw 1564 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 4: Jordan Love completed twenty straight passes at one point. I 1565 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,559 Speaker 4: want to say the number is. I think I looked 1566 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,679 Speaker 4: it up. One hundred and fifty six straight passes without 1567 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 4: an interception by the Steelers defense here, and they lost 1568 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,280 Speaker 4: one of their better defenders to Shawn Elliott in the 1569 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,400 Speaker 4: back end. He got hurt in that huge play by 1570 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,000 Speaker 4: Tucker Craft on Sunday Night Football, and he is one 1571 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 4: of their key guys. So I saw the Dania Laski 1572 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,920 Speaker 4: quote earlier this week. I often look at the Steelers 1573 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 4: defensive tape and write down the note what are they 1574 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:41,439 Speaker 4: doing here? So they made a trade at this too. 1575 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 4: They picked up Kyle Dugger which, speaking of Mark Dyton 1576 01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 4: and I in a punching match, Kyle Duggar, right, that's 1577 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 4: who trade blows with Michael Pittman Junior a few years 1578 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 4: ago inside of Lucasolo Stadium. I believe both got tossed 1579 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 4: from that game. I always saw Pittman shouldn't have been tossed, 1580 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 4: but I think I don't know. 1581 01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 2: Douger hadn't even been playing for Mike ray all that much. 1582 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 2: They give him the seventh rounder and a pick swap. 1583 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of falling out of favor, So I don't know. 1584 01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,719 Speaker 4: Maybe dougarl will be playing notable snatd. I mean, Pittsburgh 1585 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 4: has always, I think, kind of been this team, but 1586 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 4: they're always kind of that old team, you know, a 1587 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 4: bunch of dudes that are I mean, Cameron Hayward is 1588 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,320 Speaker 4: still in the league, which is amazing. So honestly, I 1589 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 4: think the only real worry. I get the Pittsburgh's four 1590 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 4: and three. For me, it's I do think Jalen Warren 1591 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 4: is a really nice running back and can kind of 1592 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 4: impact into the passing game as well. And they have 1593 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,200 Speaker 4: some tight ends. Oh, dk Metcalf is still a problem, right, 1594 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 4: so you know that in general is a little bit 1595 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,560 Speaker 4: of a concern, and just don't let TJ. Watt wreck it. 1596 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,000 Speaker 4: You know they do still have TJ. Watt and you 1597 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,759 Speaker 4: know the Colts did a great job on Max Crosby 1598 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 4: a few weeks ago, So that sort of game plan there, 1599 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,840 Speaker 4: because if you can limit Watt, then it should be 1600 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 4: an absolute field day for this Colts offense. 1601 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, coming up a few minutes, we'll talk 1602 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,680 Speaker 2: more about the Pacers getting ready to take on the 1603 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,720 Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks School. Here Michael Pittman Junior talk about his 1604 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,840 Speaker 2: running back Jonathan Taylor and some of the things the 1605 01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 2: Colts have been doing on offense. As we rolled up 1606 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 2: with the morning as well, Tony East could have joined 1607 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,080 Speaker 2: us the top of the hour, and we have lots 1608 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 2: of salary cap questions with injuries and stuff like that, 1609 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,599 Speaker 2: to ask him see if he can help us out there. 1610 01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,680 Speaker 2: We'll do it all as we continue on ninety three 1611 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,800 Speaker 2: five and one O seven five the Fan. So Mark 1612 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 2: you uh, I have taken your kids to Disney World recently, right? 1613 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 7: Uh huh? 1614 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 2: Did you guys go to Hollywood Studios in the Muppet 1615 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 2: Theater there it's gone, oh locked it down. Wow, the 1616 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:26,880 Speaker 2: last time we went. We went to it because it 1617 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 2: was the last time we're going to see it becauseyeah, 1618 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,200 Speaker 2: they've knocked it down. They're gonna build a couple new 1619 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 2: roller coasters there, so it is no longer there. It 1620 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 2: is just a pile of bricks. Oh man, did you 1621 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,400 Speaker 2: do the Star Wars thing? 1622 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 6: Uh? 1623 01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 5: Yes, we did that, so that was fun. Girls enjoyed it. 1624 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 5: So yeah, we did all that stuff. 1625 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,040 Speaker 2: Had a little corner over there in Hollywood Studios Tower 1626 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 2: of Tear and Rock and roller Coaster. That's my favorite 1627 01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:48,600 Speaker 2: place to go. 1628 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 5: Rock and roller Coaster is going to be a new 1629 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 5: Muppets roller coaster themes soon and yeah, Tower Tear is 1630 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,519 Speaker 5: still there, scaring the bejeez is out of people. 1631 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,760 Speaker 4: I think James would like Tower of Tear. Do you 1632 01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:58,719 Speaker 4: like heights, James? 1633 01:14:59,240 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 8: No? 1634 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:00,640 Speaker 4: Then probably not. 1635 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 2: About being you know, you raise, you go up and 1636 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,679 Speaker 2: up and basically what is a huge elevator in chairs 1637 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:11,920 Speaker 2: and you can see out and it goes all black 1638 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,720 Speaker 2: and dark, and maybe you're falling four stories, maybe you're 1639 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,840 Speaker 2: rising four stories. You're suspended there. 1640 01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 4: You don't know when it's going to happen. So marg 1641 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 4: just asked me if I like heights. 1642 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,720 Speaker 3: I said no, And then you asked me if I 1643 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 3: like heights when falling stories at once? 1644 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:25,680 Speaker 4: And then again I. 1645 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,720 Speaker 2: Want to I want to see a visceral reaction as 1646 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 2: I even explain it to you. 1647 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,640 Speaker 3: No, but I will say I took a trip to 1648 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 3: the Sea and Tower and I went to Toronto for 1649 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 3: the one time, and I went all the way up 1650 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 3: to the top. I think it's like the tallest building 1651 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,240 Speaker 3: in the Western Hemisphere. That was pretty cool. But again, 1652 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 3: you're like in a structure, did you step on the 1653 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:41,679 Speaker 3: sea through parts? 1654 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:43,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I went all the way to the top, all 1655 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,240 Speaker 5: the way up to but you don't have to step 1656 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,599 Speaker 5: on the sea through part on the bottom. 1657 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,559 Speaker 4: And I was thinking, hey, you know we went there 1658 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:50,760 Speaker 4: when I was a kid. We'll be rich. 1659 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,120 Speaker 5: I looked and I remember there was I was there 1660 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,559 Speaker 5: and I was watching kids standing on there's kids standing 1661 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 5: on it and then. 1662 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,639 Speaker 4: Jumping on it. I said, you are insane. Yeah, where 1663 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:01,360 Speaker 4: are your parents? 1664 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,320 Speaker 2: You guys are Chicago guys. You ever gone up to 1665 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:04,840 Speaker 2: the I don't know what they call it now. My 1666 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,759 Speaker 2: wife's office is actually in there, but the old Sears Tower. 1667 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:08,800 Speaker 4: It's still the Seers Tower. 1668 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 2: You go to the very top and you can kind 1669 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,800 Speaker 2: of lean over to the fires. Bueller thing when you're 1670 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 2: kind of lean over and see all the way down? 1671 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 2: Is that mess you up at all? 1672 01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 4: I have not done it. 1673 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,000 Speaker 5: I've seen the videos of it. I don't know if 1674 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,679 Speaker 5: I would do it necessarily, but it looks interesting. 1675 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 7: I do the. 1676 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 4: Treehouse at the Children's Museum. That's enough for you, It's 1677 01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 4: enough for me. Or looking out the elevator window in 1678 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 4: the Lucosoil Stadium press box the treehouse. 1679 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,160 Speaker 5: And the Children's m is it clusterphobic because the kids 1680 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 5: are running all over the place. I'm like, how am 1681 01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 5: I getting down. 1682 01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,400 Speaker 4: From here and run over by a bunch of three 1683 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:38,200 Speaker 4: and a half year old? 1684 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:38,479 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1685 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm not a big heights fan either. But one time 1686 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 2: a while back, I was in Las Vegas and I 1687 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:47,800 Speaker 2: did that big shot where you go way up. It's 1688 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 2: on top of the stratosphere and you go up, up, up, 1689 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,560 Speaker 2: and it just you hover there for like three to 1690 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 2: five seconds. You don't know when it's going to drop, 1691 01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,719 Speaker 2: and then it just does and you'll probably a thousand 1692 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,880 Speaker 2: feet up in the air. No, thank you, I'm not exaggerating, James. 1693 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,360 Speaker 4: It's like a thousand feet up in the air. 1694 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,479 Speaker 5: You're not a heightsky, but you did that. That's you 1695 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 5: seem like a heightsky because I wouldn't do. 1696 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 2: No, because it's about this is terrifying to me. 1697 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,479 Speaker 4: I think I have to do it. I'll meet you 1698 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 4: at the tables. Yeah, I'll be at the bar. Well, 1699 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 4: I did it. 1700 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 2: I crossed it off my list and that's that. 1701 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 4: So how about that? 1702 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,720 Speaker 2: The Colts getting ready to take on the Steelers on 1703 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,880 Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon. Michael Pittman Junior was on Serious XM NFL 1704 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,240 Speaker 2: Radio yesterday that were talking to him about this incredible 1705 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,240 Speaker 2: seven and one start in the offense and how things 1706 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,920 Speaker 2: are going, and the subject whether or not Jonathan Taylor 1707 01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 2: could be an MVP at running back in a day 1708 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 2: and age where only quarterbacks when that award was brought up. 1709 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,080 Speaker 2: Here was Michael Pittman Junior's thoughts on Jonathan Taylor in. 1710 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,640 Speaker 7: His season, I think if they can consider more than 1711 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 7: just quarterbacks to be the MVP, I mean I think 1712 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,920 Speaker 7: he's no question like he's on that path and well 1713 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 7: he's able to do each game, each and every game consistently. 1714 01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 7: I mean, I haven't seen that really in my life 1715 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,559 Speaker 7: time watching football. I mean, like I know there's great 1716 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,719 Speaker 7: players before, but I'm talking about like when I'm actually 1717 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,320 Speaker 7: watching it, just like I haven't seen it before. And 1718 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,120 Speaker 7: like just the things that he's doing, I mean, I 1719 01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 7: mean he's insane, and like he does it so nonchalantly, 1720 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 7: Like on that eighty yard run, I'm like, oh, that's 1721 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 7: gonna be a nice fifteen yard run. And then he 1722 01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,760 Speaker 7: breaks the tackle. Okay, i gotta be a nice thirty 1723 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,080 Speaker 7: yard run. And then he snatches like somebody's hand and 1724 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 7: holds it off him and breaks it for eighty I'm like, 1725 01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,519 Speaker 7: oh my gosh, like like how did he just do that? 1726 01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,960 Speaker 7: Just the things he's doing, I mean, nothing really surprises 1727 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,800 Speaker 7: me now, Like if he wants to impress me, like 1728 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 7: he's gonna have to score five touchdowns. 1729 01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor impressing his teammates, impressing everyone else. And you know, 1730 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,400 Speaker 2: the one thing I will say is Michael Pittman Jr. 1731 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:43,559 Speaker 4: I was watching some. 1732 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 2: Breakdowns of some of the big runs that Jonathan Taylor 1733 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,679 Speaker 2: had this past weekend, and Pittman, he's the most louch 1734 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,800 Speaker 2: at bock blocking. He'll steal an edge. But how much 1735 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 2: fun must it be, Kevin, for whether you're offensive lineman 1736 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 2: like Quintin Nelson, or you're a wide receiver or even 1737 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,559 Speaker 2: a tight end like moele Cox, to know that if 1738 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 2: you just hold that block, there's a better than average 1739 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,559 Speaker 2: chance that if your guy gets to the second level, 1740 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:08,880 Speaker 2: it is over. 1741 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:14,919 Speaker 4: I would guess very fun. I like the most Outstanding 1742 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,840 Speaker 4: Player change of the acronym from MVP to MOP. I 1743 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,599 Speaker 4: know we do that in the Final four. I kind 1744 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,720 Speaker 4: of like that suggestion from listener Aaron this week. It's 1745 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,439 Speaker 4: kind of wild, James. I don't want to make too 1746 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,880 Speaker 4: much of what happened, but then I think the numbers 1747 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:32,559 Speaker 4: would back this up. Since Jonathan Taylor dropped that ball 1748 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 4: in Denver, I believe this is the best stretch of 1749 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 4: his entire career. It's kind of wild how that played out, 1750 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 4: that obviously probably ended the Colt's playoff chances, and all 1751 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:49,679 Speaker 4: of a sudden and again Taylor would never reveal anything 1752 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 4: from a whatever that and you know, I don't want 1753 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,400 Speaker 4: to make too much of that sparked all of a 1754 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,639 Speaker 4: sudden him taking his game to another level. I don't 1755 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,519 Speaker 4: want to say that, but the numbers do indicate that. 1756 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,920 Speaker 3: So your point, I think is just how that's probably 1757 01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:02,960 Speaker 3: the bigger one. The most boring point is that he's 1758 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,880 Speaker 3: healthy and he's also playing an offense that, like I 1759 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:11,320 Speaker 3: talked about earlier this week, you really can't account for 1760 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,040 Speaker 3: him alone. This isn't some of the offenses we saw 1761 01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,880 Speaker 3: with the Titans where years ago and they had Derrick Henry, 1762 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 3: it was Okay, they're going to hand him the rock 1763 01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,680 Speaker 3: thirty times, and they're gonna hope that Ryan Tannehill, who 1764 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,360 Speaker 3: was a pretty good quarterback during that time, make a 1765 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,880 Speaker 3: couple of throws keep the defense a little bit honest. 1766 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,439 Speaker 3: But we all know the ball is going to twenty 1767 01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 3: two Derrick Henry whars. But Jonathan Taylor. You can't really 1768 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,280 Speaker 3: have that security. You don't go into the game thinking, Okay, 1769 01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 3: we know for a fact JT's gonna carry the ball 1770 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,240 Speaker 3: thirty times. I don't even know if he's got thirty 1771 01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,560 Speaker 3: carriers in the game this year or thirty touches. A 1772 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,720 Speaker 3: lot of it is we're going to gas you on 1773 01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:49,559 Speaker 3: the opening drive with a lot of throws, because they 1774 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 3: seem to always come start the game throwing the ball, 1775 01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:53,960 Speaker 3: and then when you think you can relax on that, oh, 1776 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,719 Speaker 3: here's JT popping a ten yard run, twelve yard running 1777 01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:57,719 Speaker 3: in the last. 1778 01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:58,080 Speaker 4: Couple of weeks. 1779 01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,600 Speaker 3: It's always that big break where he can just you know, 1780 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,240 Speaker 3: show off being one of the fastest players in the 1781 01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,120 Speaker 3: NFL despite being a bigger player too. I mean, he's 1782 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,040 Speaker 3: running faster than wide receivers who are probably fifty pounds 1783 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:12,000 Speaker 3: lighter than him. So a special player, special offense. I mean, 1784 01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,599 Speaker 3: the Colts right now are averaging I believe it's something 1785 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,479 Speaker 3: crazy like three point sixty four yards I mean yards, 1786 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,880 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, points per possession, which is like the highest 1787 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,679 Speaker 3: pace of any team in the last twenty five years. 1788 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,720 Speaker 4: So they're operating at a very elite level. 1789 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 2: It's certainly fun for us to watch. It's got to 1790 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 2: be fun to take part in as well. But that 1791 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,639 Speaker 2: was Michael Pittman Junior on Serious XM NFL Radio talking 1792 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 2: about Jonathan Taylor. Shane h writes as Kevin the last 1793 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,080 Speaker 2: victory in Pittsburgh for the Colts before two thousand and 1794 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,840 Speaker 2: eight was nineteen sixty eight. I haven't verified that, but 1795 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:47,240 Speaker 2: that's what Shane is writing in there. 1796 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know they've only won one time there as 1797 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,560 Speaker 4: a member of the Anapolis Colts, but granted this opportunity. 1798 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,160 Speaker 4: You know, Pittsburgh seems to be really, really really and 1799 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 4: again particularly on the defensive side of the ball, So 1800 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:03,080 Speaker 4: it's a a comportunity for the Colts coming up on Sunday. Reminder, 1801 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 4: they will go to Berlin next week, that is Colts Falcons, 1802 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 4: and then the bye week is after that. I mean, 1803 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,920 Speaker 4: you can look at Pittsburgh really, they've been very good 1804 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:14,120 Speaker 4: in the red zone and their turnover ratio is pretty good. 1805 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:20,519 Speaker 4: Outside of that, they really do nothing very good on 1806 01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,160 Speaker 4: either side of the ball, frankly, I mean they're not 1807 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,200 Speaker 4: top ten, top half of the league and really anything 1808 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,559 Speaker 4: again red zone, which you know, we know how much 1809 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,240 Speaker 4: that matters the Colts earlier in the year versus the 1810 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,439 Speaker 4: Colts now and defensively, I think that's what's kind of 1811 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 4: saved the Colts in a lot of these games. But yeah, 1812 01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,879 Speaker 4: it's it is a time right now for the Pittsburgh 1813 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,519 Speaker 4: Steelers where they're reeling a bit. 1814 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kate agrees with you. She says, let's just call 1815 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 2: it the MVQ Most Valuable Quarterback, then give JT the MVP. 1816 01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 4: That's Kate. 1817 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 2: I don't think any of us gonna argue with that. 1818 01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,599 Speaker 2: I think we've all decided on I did look. 1819 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,240 Speaker 3: At the MVP odds because we had a story coming 1820 01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,840 Speaker 3: on in the Athletic about that, because they were reaching 1821 01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,680 Speaker 3: out to me to run a little blurb on why 1822 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,160 Speaker 3: j T is probably deserving at this point. And I 1823 01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,280 Speaker 3: believe Daniel Jones was like fifth. 1824 01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 4: Mar j JS. I thought, Mark, you said j T 1825 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 4: was fourth, Well. 1826 01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 3: We had it and like I don't know, we used 1827 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 3: like to think bet MGM or something like that. So 1828 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,679 Speaker 3: bet MGM has it. Where the last time I checked, 1829 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,640 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones was still ahead of j T. And I 1830 01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,000 Speaker 3: would say it's probably because of the QB tags. Now 1831 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,240 Speaker 3: he has dropped to sixth. It looks like according to 1832 01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:29,839 Speaker 3: FanDuel Mahomes, he was fourth. Yeh, that's how much it's fluctuating. 1833 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,479 Speaker 3: He was twelfth on Monday yesterday he was fourth. Now 1834 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 3: he's sixth, So now it's Mahomes. Allen Drake May Stafford, 1835 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:38,759 Speaker 3: Jordan Love, and Jonathan Taylor. 1836 01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:40,599 Speaker 4: What did he turn an ankle on an off day? 1837 01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,200 Speaker 4: How does he go from fourth to six. 1838 01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:45,800 Speaker 5: I don't know, dar twelfth to fourth to sixth. So 1839 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,840 Speaker 5: I guess what they're saying is make those MVP odd 1840 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,320 Speaker 5: bets now, because those seemed to fluctuate on a daily basis. 1841 01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,800 Speaker 2: Terry Rozier been busy getting the quarterbacks up to speed 1842 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 2: in the Jameson odds. 1843 01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 4: I guess, I don't know. It sounds like my weight. Well, 1844 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,599 Speaker 4: he's right around the corner, my friend. 1845 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,479 Speaker 2: Uh coming up. At a moment, Tony Easts is gonna 1846 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,680 Speaker 2: stop by and give us some clarity on what the 1847 01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,160 Speaker 2: Pacers can do as far as their salary cap situation, 1848 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,639 Speaker 2: because they're just trying to find warm bodies to play 1849 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,080 Speaker 2: basketball games right now. We'll talk about it as we continue. 1850 01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 2: On a Wednesday morning at ninety three five and one seven, 1851 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:24,080 Speaker 2: fan win or wake up in the moment and the 1852 01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:25,240 Speaker 2: long it's out the water. 1853 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,519 Speaker 3: I don't think I'll ever make it on time. 1854 01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,080 Speaker 2: Boy, sid I got a book set. 1855 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:31,240 Speaker 4: I give myself a look. 1856 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:32,880 Speaker 7: Im in the corner just in time to. 1857 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,000 Speaker 4: See the boss time. 1858 01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:40,720 Speaker 2: It's all right because I'm saying on the bill, if 1859 01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:41,880 Speaker 2: the teacher bops. 1860 01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,120 Speaker 4: A test and I know I'm in a mess, and I'm. 1861 01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 2: Talking on my homework last night riding on my chair, 1862 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,680 Speaker 2: they o Mark Dyton another blast from the TV passed there. 1863 01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,240 Speaker 5: Oh god, I thought every high school girl was gonna 1864 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:55,920 Speaker 5: art Kelly Kapowski back in the day. 1865 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,400 Speaker 4: But I can't wait to get to high school. Mark's 1866 01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 4: have been Lisa Turtle walks around the corner. Oh yeah, 1867 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 4: shout out screech Dick Belding as the president principal. I 1868 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:07,040 Speaker 4: should say. 1869 01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,880 Speaker 2: Good Times Marks another good show. 1870 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 4: Good Times is also very jj J. What was the 1871 01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 4: name j J? 1872 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 2: I forget what was his last name was. I'll think 1873 01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:18,679 Speaker 2: about it a minute. 1874 01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 4: But anyway, say by the Bells probably what I've consumed 1875 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:25,320 Speaker 4: the most in my life, frankly, of any TV show. Okay, 1876 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,479 Speaker 4: I am trying to think of mine. I would venture 1877 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 4: to guess. 1878 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:34,000 Speaker 3: I might go Martin or the Wayne's Bros. Wayne Wayne Frows, 1879 01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,439 Speaker 3: I love my favorite one. Yeah, those are the two 1880 01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:38,280 Speaker 3: back on the w. 1881 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,200 Speaker 2: B one of my favorites. Speaking of those guys, John 1882 01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,680 Speaker 2: with Fridays, did you ever ever watched its? 1883 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 4: Probably before your time Fridays It was. 1884 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,439 Speaker 2: Kind of a the Foxes answer to Saturday to uh, 1885 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,960 Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live. It was in Living Colors, said Friday, 1886 01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:53,920 Speaker 2: like the movies there was there was there was a 1887 01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 2: show Colors Friday, and then that was like in the 1888 01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 2: eighties in Living Color. 1889 01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,200 Speaker 4: Was also reading Living Color. Yeah. 1890 01:25:59,680 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 5: Uh. 1891 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,400 Speaker 2: Tony East joins us now in the payloff Stickers hot line. Tony, 1892 01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,160 Speaker 2: what was your favorite kind of go to fun TV 1893 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:06,000 Speaker 2: show back. 1894 01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 4: In the day. 1895 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,519 Speaker 9: I wasn't as cool as you, guys. I was just 1896 01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,200 Speaker 9: a dorky cartoon kid. 1897 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,840 Speaker 4: That's all right. What cartoons? Did you like? Rocket Power? 1898 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:16,760 Speaker 4: I did like Rocket Power quite a bit. 1899 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:17,479 Speaker 7: That's a good show. 1900 01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:21,960 Speaker 9: I honestly don't know if I could pick a favorite. 1901 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,120 Speaker 9: This is not an easy decision. 1902 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,120 Speaker 4: All right, Well, we'll get back to you on that. 1903 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,640 Speaker 4: It was a guitar hero all American, Tony East, I 1904 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,280 Speaker 4: think it was people forget about that. I did not 1905 01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,439 Speaker 4: know this. Can you explain the bas what do you 1906 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,559 Speaker 4: mean Jonathan Taylor guitar? 1907 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,559 Speaker 2: I really didn't know Daniel Jones and Jonathan Taylor had 1908 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:39,920 Speaker 2: a baby. 1909 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,160 Speaker 4: For guitars, it'd be Tony East. Tony, can you explain 1910 01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,080 Speaker 4: this guitar hero tutorials, right, Yeah. 1911 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,040 Speaker 9: That's the first way I made money was being one 1912 01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:50,599 Speaker 9: of the best players in the game and uploading videos 1913 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 9: to YouTube. Good times, Good Time. 1914 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:54,280 Speaker 4: You are such a. 1915 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,800 Speaker 3: Unique person, and I mean that as a compliment, Tony. 1916 01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:59,519 Speaker 4: Can you play a real guitar? I asked that in 1917 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 4: all seriousness. 1918 01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,120 Speaker 9: No, I cannot, which is part of the embarrassing answer 1919 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:05,759 Speaker 9: to that, Okay, I cannot. 1920 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,439 Speaker 2: This didn't inspire you to actually learn how to play guitar. 1921 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:14,280 Speaker 9: They're very different experiences. The strings go a different direction. 1922 01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,800 Speaker 9: There's yeah, no there, it's very different. I don't even 1923 01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:20,000 Speaker 9: know how or why guitar goro became a thing in 1924 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:21,679 Speaker 9: my life, but it happened so fast. 1925 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:23,880 Speaker 2: Uh, it's crazy. 1926 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:24,479 Speaker 7: It's crazy. 1927 01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:25,360 Speaker 9: What's happened to that game? 1928 01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you. What also has happened so fast, Tony, 1929 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:32,599 Speaker 2: is the dwindling of the roster for the Indiana Pacers 1930 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,719 Speaker 2: that I was smooth transition. 1931 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:36,000 Speaker 4: It's just getting beautiful. 1932 01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,960 Speaker 2: It's just getting insane, though, Tony, isn't it. I mean, 1933 01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,479 Speaker 2: we've never seen anything like this for the Pacers before, 1934 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:41,800 Speaker 2: have we? 1935 01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,200 Speaker 9: And it's really crazy. I mean, and and you know, 1936 01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,160 Speaker 9: every time I'm talking about their injury situation. I'm trying 1937 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:49,720 Speaker 9: to run through all the players that are hurt, like 1938 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,400 Speaker 9: I forget somebody because there's so many guys. I can't 1939 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,200 Speaker 9: recall them all off the top of my head. And 1940 01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,599 Speaker 9: you know, it's just it's remarkable and specifically for their 1941 01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,200 Speaker 9: situation now they you know, last year they had all 1942 01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,040 Speaker 9: the center injuries early in the season, right, everybody was 1943 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:07,640 Speaker 9: hurt at center, so when Miles would miss a game, 1944 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,719 Speaker 9: that were just toast and they to make all these moves. 1945 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,880 Speaker 9: This year it's guard and it's literally everybody. It's not 1946 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,639 Speaker 9: just point guards where last year was center. It's both 1947 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,800 Speaker 9: guards sponsored on a four guards total and a one 1948 01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,559 Speaker 9: they just signed. It's just it's crazy how much they've 1949 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,639 Speaker 9: already had to do something to just feel the team. 1950 01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,759 Speaker 4: That makes any sense, Tony. We saw the mac McClung 1951 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:32,800 Speaker 4: news of course yesterday. Are they in the qualification at 1952 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,320 Speaker 4: all for the medical hardship? Like, could we see and 1953 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:36,840 Speaker 4: now I'm dating back to by India in a fever 1954 01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,880 Speaker 4: season this year, could we see like some a ten 1955 01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:41,040 Speaker 4: day edition or two? 1956 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, the heart the heartship world are different for NBA 1957 01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,160 Speaker 9: and WNBA. There is an NBA version you have to 1958 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 9: have four guys missed three games, and those four guys 1959 01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,360 Speaker 9: have to be out for two more weeks from the 1960 01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,679 Speaker 9: time of their missing their third game, which is confusing 1961 01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:58,840 Speaker 9: for the Pacers because some of their guys who have 1962 01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,680 Speaker 9: already missed three games may not be out for two 1963 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,080 Speaker 9: more weeks. We'll see what happens on that reevaluation date 1964 01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,840 Speaker 9: of November ninth for TJ McConnell and Cam Jones, and 1965 01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:08,080 Speaker 9: some of their guys who might be out for that 1966 01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,680 Speaker 9: that long, like Ben Matheren and Obi Toppin have not 1967 01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,840 Speaker 9: u been out for three games quite yet. Matheren's only 1968 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,519 Speaker 9: missed one game in full and on same and Toping 1969 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,320 Speaker 9: hasn't missed any games in foll yet because he got 1970 01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,760 Speaker 9: hurt in the most recent games. So it depends on 1971 01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,439 Speaker 9: the return dates for some players. It's possible that if 1972 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:25,960 Speaker 9: Jones is out for a long time and Toping the 1973 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,000 Speaker 9: Mathern are out for a long time, I think after 1974 01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,080 Speaker 9: the Golden State game on Saturday, they could be eligible 1975 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,400 Speaker 9: for one. But you know, if Jones isn't set to 1976 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,960 Speaker 9: return earlier then, or set a return close to his 1977 01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:39,080 Speaker 9: reevaluation day, that might not even be possible. So It 1978 01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 9: really just depends on the timelines of their current players, 1979 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,519 Speaker 9: and they're gonna get pretty easily to three of the 1980 01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,880 Speaker 9: four needed missing games, but they got to get to 1981 01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,080 Speaker 9: the fourth if they actually get to get a hardship. 1982 01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:52,680 Speaker 9: So it actually is hard for them that they have 1983 01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,680 Speaker 9: so many injuries, yet none of them are super long term, 1984 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,400 Speaker 9: at least until now, and a lot of them are 1985 01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,160 Speaker 9: players who are returning, and Jackson came back like that 1986 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,200 Speaker 9: actually makes it harder for hard situation. So it's still 1987 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,880 Speaker 9: a TVD but it's possible that by the end of 1988 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:07,840 Speaker 9: this week they do have one. 1989 01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:09,680 Speaker 3: Well, Tony, I do know you have a direct line 1990 01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,400 Speaker 3: of Rick Carlisle, so just you know, get his ear 1991 01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:13,800 Speaker 3: a little bit and let him know that I've been 1992 01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,160 Speaker 3: in the gym as of late. 1993 01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:16,719 Speaker 4: The jumper doesn't look too great. 1994 01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,320 Speaker 3: I took a month off because of work, but I 1995 01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,240 Speaker 3: can still get up and down the floor and offer 1996 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:21,880 Speaker 3: six fouls. 1997 01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, Balin's been a problem for them, So you'll fit 1998 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,000 Speaker 9: right in on this team this year. But man, anybody's 1999 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,639 Speaker 9: that bad, Like they're trying guys out already in groups, 2000 01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,639 Speaker 9: and I told you guys that yesterday morning. Like anyone 2001 01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,320 Speaker 9: who can play and is in some sort of shape. 2002 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,720 Speaker 9: Like I do wonder how much for mcclong that he 2003 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,120 Speaker 9: was in camp with the Bulls and had started. I 2004 01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,040 Speaker 9: think he had one or two practices with the Windy 2005 01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,960 Speaker 9: City Bulls, Like he doesn't have to do what we 2006 01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:50,320 Speaker 9: saw in preseason like campaign until Onnwright. 2007 01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:51,160 Speaker 8: Like he's in game shape. 2008 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:52,880 Speaker 9: Now that honestly is a boon for him. 2009 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:53,519 Speaker 4: That's gonna help. 2010 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,519 Speaker 3: So to that point, Tony, and again we have Tony. 2011 01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:02,160 Speaker 3: He's joining us here on the Payosicers hotline. Tony with 2012 01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:04,719 Speaker 3: Mac mcclun. We know him as the three time NBA 2013 01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,639 Speaker 3: Slam Dunk Contest champion. But for those who an't familiar 2014 01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,320 Speaker 3: with his actual basketball career, can you give us the 2015 01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,719 Speaker 3: backstory there? I know he went undrafted out of Texas 2016 01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:14,640 Speaker 3: Tech in twenty twenty one. 2017 01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, he's played for a bunch of teams for like 2018 01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:21,599 Speaker 9: two seconds, right, a two way with the Lakers where 2019 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,280 Speaker 9: he plays one game a ten day with the Bulls 2020 01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,200 Speaker 9: or he plays two games, right, So he's. 2021 01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:28,080 Speaker 7: Played for four teams. 2022 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:32,080 Speaker 9: He's only played six games, and I actually believe that 2023 01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,400 Speaker 9: this is his first standard contract ever. Every other time 2024 01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,200 Speaker 9: he signed a contract in the NBA, it's either been 2025 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,760 Speaker 9: a ten day or a two way. So, you know, 2026 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,040 Speaker 9: that's the kind of situation that he's been in his 2027 01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,240 Speaker 9: whole career, has been like right on that edge where 2028 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:45,960 Speaker 9: teams are interested in him, like he was on a 2029 01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:47,840 Speaker 9: two way last year, The Magic said that maybe he 2030 01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,519 Speaker 9: could help them in turn situations, but not quite good 2031 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,160 Speaker 9: enough where a team that's felt like he could really 2032 01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,840 Speaker 9: break in to their rotation. I'll say this, the Matt 2033 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,160 Speaker 9: has paid the playoffs. Last year, they won their first 2034 01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:58,920 Speaker 9: round game, they were looking good. They go down to 2035 01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,760 Speaker 9: Ostiola to play The Magic's G League team and they 2036 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,360 Speaker 9: got destroyed clabbered in the game. They gave up eighty 2037 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,840 Speaker 9: points in the first half. Magna Clung finished with thirty 2038 01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:10,559 Speaker 9: nine points and six assists. The Magic made the league finals. Now, granted, 2039 01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,280 Speaker 9: there's a lot of good league players who don't amount 2040 01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:14,920 Speaker 9: to much in the NBA, but he's kind of like 2041 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:17,280 Speaker 9: right on that line of, you know, in between the 2042 01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,120 Speaker 9: G League and the pros, and some of those guys 2043 01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:21,760 Speaker 9: do end up being able to do something in the NBA, 2044 01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,799 Speaker 9: like Oshan Burssett became a multi year player for the Patriots. 2045 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,120 Speaker 9: He was kind of right in that tier of player 2046 01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,919 Speaker 9: as well, So it's hard to project what his IMPACT's 2047 01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:32,439 Speaker 9: gonna be. His resume kind of suggests that he could 2048 01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,240 Speaker 9: be inconsistent and not you know, ready for a major 2049 01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,880 Speaker 9: NBA role, or maybe he is and we'll the page 2050 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,960 Speaker 9: off the seed, but that'll need him, Like he'll probably 2051 01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,200 Speaker 9: be one of their four available guards today unless Taylan 2052 01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:45,559 Speaker 9: Peter has recovered, you know, more than the Andrew report suggests. 2053 01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,760 Speaker 9: So there's a chance he's already in their rotation. I 2054 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,240 Speaker 9: think if he's able to, you know, get off the 2055 01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:51,920 Speaker 9: ball and make some shots to look good. But you 2056 01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 9: could probably say that about any guard, and so it 2057 01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,719 Speaker 9: will be a change to see what impacts he can provide, 2058 01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:58,519 Speaker 9: because there's just not a lot of evidence to say 2059 01:32:58,560 --> 01:32:59,240 Speaker 9: what that's gonna be. 2060 01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,400 Speaker 4: East locked on Pacers where you hear his voice. It 2061 01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,160 Speaker 4: is a great listen and we are very very grateful 2062 01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,280 Speaker 4: to have him in our market. Cover in the Pacers 2063 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,720 Speaker 4: and fever Tony give our audience a little bit of 2064 01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,800 Speaker 4: intro to your latest endeavor, your newest endeavor. Probably the 2065 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 4: best way to put it, Circle City Spin. 2066 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:20,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2067 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,120 Speaker 9: I started my own website because I felt like I 2068 01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,559 Speaker 9: wasn't covering the teams the right way all the time, 2069 01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,519 Speaker 9: especially after games, or enough quite frankly in some cases, 2070 01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,800 Speaker 9: via writing, and so I've been publishing some stuff there, 2071 01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,519 Speaker 9: including a really long thing I wrote yesterday about a 2072 01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,479 Speaker 9: huge question about the James Wiseman waiver that is completely 2073 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,439 Speaker 9: not what you think if you read it, and I 2074 01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,439 Speaker 9: hope it's a better way for you to learn about 2075 01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,479 Speaker 9: the Pacers and the Fever from somebody who's covered both 2076 01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,680 Speaker 9: teams for a long time. So it's been fun so 2077 01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:50,280 Speaker 9: far and hopefully go somewhere fun. I'm having a good. 2078 01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,560 Speaker 4: Time Circle City spin again where you can find that 2079 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,880 Speaker 4: very simple ad Circle City Spin over. 2080 01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,000 Speaker 3: When you took on it, you'll see Tony East like 2081 01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,000 Speaker 3: break dancing and spin in as the intro to the website, 2082 01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:02,320 Speaker 3: Jack Milwaukee. 2083 01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,679 Speaker 9: I'm actually playing guitar Hero on the homepage. 2084 01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,000 Speaker 4: That might be my new homepage. After you say that, Tony, 2085 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,920 Speaker 4: last one for me. Do you frequent YouTube much at all? 2086 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:13,519 Speaker 9: Uh? 2087 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:14,360 Speaker 1: Sort of? 2088 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:15,120 Speaker 6: Sort of? 2089 01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:18,120 Speaker 4: I feel like every intro ad is a Leah Boston 2090 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:21,120 Speaker 4: and her mom. Have you come across this commercial? 2091 01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 6: I have seen? 2092 01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,240 Speaker 9: I have seen this commercial? Well, I played is it 2093 01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,160 Speaker 9: the one where they were like sitting together before the. 2094 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,640 Speaker 4: Game in Minnesota. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that one 2095 01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:29,280 Speaker 4: a lot during. 2096 01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,160 Speaker 9: The playoffs too. Yes, it is very popular and it's adorable. 2097 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:33,160 Speaker 4: Her mom is very nice. 2098 01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:34,320 Speaker 8: I've seen that all the time. 2099 01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:38,720 Speaker 4: That's literally all I have. I apologize for having some 2100 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,160 Speaker 4: grand follow up on Hey, what's what's the latest in 2101 01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,680 Speaker 4: w you know, league talks and CBA this and that, 2102 01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,360 Speaker 4: But yeah, I have now signed up for circus. I 2103 01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:48,080 Speaker 4: can tell you that I. 2104 01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,720 Speaker 9: Would be very very very very very very surprised if 2105 01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,719 Speaker 9: there's an agreement by the deadline on Friday. 2106 01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,960 Speaker 4: I'll tell you that it's this Friday, right, Yeah, the 2107 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:56,639 Speaker 4: thirty first. 2108 01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:59,120 Speaker 2: Talking about trying to get an extent, wasn't the w 2109 01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:03,200 Speaker 2: NBA talking about to get an extension? Yeah, they can 2110 01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:03,600 Speaker 2: do that. 2111 01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,120 Speaker 9: Maybe that will be something that they agree to. But 2112 01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,559 Speaker 9: like in these situations where you know, deadlines are what'sper 2113 01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,840 Speaker 9: actions and get these people to go, But what does 2114 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,479 Speaker 9: an extension really do? Like, they're still going to be 2115 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,519 Speaker 9: negotiating even if you don't have a CBA. So I 2116 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:18,840 Speaker 9: perhaps that's the only thing we find out by Friday 2117 01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:23,120 Speaker 9: they extend the deadline. But I'm not particularly confident, nor 2118 01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,240 Speaker 9: is any reporter I've talked to than anything will be 2119 01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:25,880 Speaker 9: done by the end. 2120 01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:26,040 Speaker 6: Of the week. 2121 01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:27,639 Speaker 2: Do you think anything will be done by the time 2122 01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:29,400 Speaker 2: the season rolls around in late spring? 2123 01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:34,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, the season will get things going, I think. But 2124 01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,240 Speaker 9: it's always tricky too because they're they're off season so condensed. 2125 01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,720 Speaker 9: All these players are playing in different leagues, and the 2126 01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,160 Speaker 9: draft is right after college is done. You know, they 2127 01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,439 Speaker 9: like they have and there's two new teams, right, they 2128 01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:49,679 Speaker 9: have a lot of like external considerations to get something 2129 01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,639 Speaker 9: done in a certain amount of time to let those 2130 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:53,880 Speaker 9: teams go and keep their lead going, especially the time 2131 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:54,919 Speaker 9: where they have a lot of momentum. 2132 01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:55,760 Speaker 8: But it's not gonna be. 2133 01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:59,000 Speaker 4: Easy, Tony. Last last one starting lineup for the Pacers 2134 01:35:59,040 --> 01:35:59,479 Speaker 4: tonight is. 2135 01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,360 Speaker 8: What, oh geez? 2136 01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:01,559 Speaker 6: I mean? 2137 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,600 Speaker 9: They started a different group every game so far. I 2138 01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,560 Speaker 9: think actually there's a chance they would stick with the 2139 01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,800 Speaker 9: same group they did in Memphis, just because Dallas also 2140 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,280 Speaker 9: plays a little big. But Derek Clyvely and Daniel Gafford 2141 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,800 Speaker 9: are doubtful, so maybe Dallas actually won't be so big. 2142 01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:18,519 Speaker 9: So I'll predict that one of the point guards actually 2143 01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,639 Speaker 9: does start this time, and it's either Dennis or Jackson. 2144 01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,920 Speaker 9: And then Shephard D. Smith's Yackam in a center, But 2145 01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,000 Speaker 9: I would not be surprised if they stuck with that 2146 01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:27,680 Speaker 9: two center group again, just because it's one of the 2147 01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,000 Speaker 9: only ways they can field the rotation that makes sense 2148 01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:31,280 Speaker 9: of players that have been on the team for more 2149 01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:32,080 Speaker 9: than two seconds. 2150 01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,760 Speaker 2: All right, Tony, go go find some late seventies and 2151 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,920 Speaker 2: early eighties TV sitcoms to watch and get back to us. 2152 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,840 Speaker 4: Okay, congrats on Circle City spend Man, great great stuff. 2153 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:42,679 Speaker 8: Thank you guys, Thank you Tony. 2154 01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:44,960 Speaker 2: He's joining us on the pay list Lookers hotline right 2155 01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:49,240 Speaker 2: there as it This season could get out of hand 2156 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,320 Speaker 2: in a hurry for the Pacers with as many injuries 2157 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,120 Speaker 2: as they have piling up right now. I mean they 2158 01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,080 Speaker 2: could be we were ten and fifteen a year ago, 2159 01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:57,920 Speaker 2: but it could get a lot worse than that. 2160 01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,080 Speaker 4: Now Agatting, some people big picture would view that as 2161 01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:05,200 Speaker 4: a win win. Tyry Saliburn's not playing this year. Go 2162 01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,479 Speaker 4: back into the lottery. You get a lottery pick, you 2163 01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:08,840 Speaker 4: hit on that pick, and now, all of a sudden, 2164 01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:12,280 Speaker 4: the next Haliburn window might have a young talent that 2165 01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,240 Speaker 4: maybe you wouldn't have gotten had you whatever been the 2166 01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:18,760 Speaker 4: fifth or sixth seed, and others would say, I hate that. 2167 01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,840 Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about the draft. The drafts 2168 01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:23,719 Speaker 4: a crap shoot, this isn't. 2169 01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,479 Speaker 3: So Yeah, we got it years ago, had Andrey to 2170 01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,479 Speaker 3: David Robinson. They stunk for a year and they ended 2171 01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:29,200 Speaker 3: up with him Duncan. 2172 01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. And I mean the Thunder got Jalen Williams a 2173 01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,479 Speaker 4: few years ago. Like that was kind of a piece 2174 01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:33,760 Speaker 4: that was. 2175 01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,840 Speaker 3: Weird point about how it's not always a surefire thing. 2176 01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:39,479 Speaker 3: The Warriors, I believe the year Steph Curry broke his hand, 2177 01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,360 Speaker 3: played like five games, they ended up in a lottery. 2178 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,000 Speaker 4: Who they draft in that lottery? 2179 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,920 Speaker 3: Wiseman, right, Wiseman. And he hasn't amounted to pretty much 2180 01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:49,840 Speaker 3: nothing in the NBA. Well, I don't want to be 2181 01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,920 Speaker 3: rude to him, but like he hasn't amounted to being 2182 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:53,240 Speaker 3: a franchise player in the NBA. 2183 01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,400 Speaker 2: He hasn't lived up to that lofty draft position, is 2184 01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,040 Speaker 2: what we're saying right now. But anyway, Pacers later on tonight, Mark, 2185 01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:09,280 Speaker 2: let's give him more information on that. Right now, eight 2186 01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,479 Speaker 2: pm airtime, eight thirty tip time in Dallas to take 2187 01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:16,439 Speaker 2: on Cooper Flag and the Dallas Mavericks and do you 2188 01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,200 Speaker 2: think Rick, as we wake up this morning, you think 2189 01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,519 Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle knows who is starting five is gonna. 2190 01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:23,559 Speaker 4: Be Yet, well Tony pointed out, I think an important manner, 2191 01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:27,360 Speaker 4: Daniel Gafford, Derek Lively, I believe both out or doubtful 2192 01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:30,040 Speaker 4: for Dallas. So maybe Dallas isn't going to be having 2193 01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,960 Speaker 4: as whatever big of a front court as maybe they 2194 01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,920 Speaker 4: did earlier in the season when Cooper Flag was like 2195 01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,720 Speaker 4: their point guard on opening Night. So I do think 2196 01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,920 Speaker 4: that probably impacts some things. But yeah, I mean, it's 2197 01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:42,680 Speaker 4: the sad reality of where the Pacers are at in 2198 01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,240 Speaker 4: Game four. Again. They'll come home for back to back 2199 01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:49,839 Speaker 4: this weekend, Hawks and Warriors. Miles Turner return game is Monday, 2200 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:51,799 Speaker 4: before they head out West. 2201 01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,719 Speaker 5: You think we can do like a draw the lineup 2202 01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:56,560 Speaker 5: out of a hat thing? Are we getting to that 2203 01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:58,200 Speaker 5: point where were just putting names in a hat draw 2204 01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 5: and like, all right, you're starting the lineup. 2205 01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,840 Speaker 4: The other night that had Huff at the four, That 2206 01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:07,920 Speaker 4: to me was like again, yeah, yeah, a fan picked 2207 01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:11,720 Speaker 4: the starting lineup. Boomer picked Itch. They did the key 2208 01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,000 Speaker 4: Bank guy, they brought him on the court. Maybe they 2209 01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:15,040 Speaker 4: did the lineup with him. 2210 01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:18,080 Speaker 2: Maybe Boomer can play some point guard. Uh, here's who's 2211 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:21,400 Speaker 2: out right now. Andrew Nemhart out, Benedict Matherin out. 2212 01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,680 Speaker 4: Joy first week on Matherin was the label there So 2213 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:29,080 Speaker 4: an NFL lingo that's usually multiple weeks. Furfy out, Obi 2214 01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:32,160 Speaker 4: Topping is now out for a while, at least a month. 2215 01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:34,400 Speaker 2: Taylor Peter is day to day. 2216 01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,840 Speaker 4: It's crazy, I think Furfey, it's obumber. We're not seeing Furfy. 2217 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,000 Speaker 4: I mentioned Walker earlier as I think he's got a 2218 01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:45,160 Speaker 4: great opportunity jaris Walker right now to at least get 2219 01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:48,679 Speaker 4: consistent clock. You know, of all those names, of course, 2220 01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,120 Speaker 4: you know some of them matter more than others. But uh, 2221 01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:53,320 Speaker 4: I thought, you know, if Furfey could be in a 2222 01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,559 Speaker 4: position right now where he's getting whatever, twenty twenty five 2223 01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,120 Speaker 4: minutes a night, that could be super beneficial for a 2224 01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,920 Speaker 4: guy that I think entering the year, we said, hey, 2225 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,680 Speaker 4: if everyone's healthy, it's going to be hard for him 2226 01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:05,160 Speaker 4: to get minutes. Well that's not holding true, all right. 2227 01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,439 Speaker 2: That's again eight pm to night for the start eight 2228 01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,640 Speaker 2: thirty for the tip time college basketball. This evening you 2229 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,479 Speaker 2: can see a couple of games. Indiana State gonna be 2230 01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,040 Speaker 2: at Hinkle Fieldhouse, tonight in an exhibition. That one starts 2231 01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,400 Speaker 2: at seven o'clock's against Butler. If you want to listen 2232 01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:20,639 Speaker 2: to it on the radio, it'll be in our sister station, 2233 01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,599 Speaker 2: Fuego ninety two point seven and Perdue we'll play an exhibition. 2234 01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,479 Speaker 2: They will host Indianapolis. That one starts at seven o'clock 2235 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,880 Speaker 2: up in West Lafayette. So some college basketball to look 2236 01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,120 Speaker 2: forward to later on tonight. If you want to watch 2237 01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,320 Speaker 2: some TV, you've got World Series Action game number five 2238 01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:39,200 Speaker 2: after last night, mark see we can get this one. 2239 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,759 Speaker 2: The Toronto Blue Jays taking on the Dodgers. The Dodgers 2240 01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,280 Speaker 2: won that eighteen inning affair on Monday night, and then 2241 01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:49,679 Speaker 2: show Hee Otani, who had reached base nine times nine times. 2242 01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,160 Speaker 2: He was standing around and the night before had to 2243 01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,599 Speaker 2: start as a pitcher last night, and he was hanging 2244 01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,520 Speaker 2: in there, but made one mistake with a runner. 2245 01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,240 Speaker 4: On in Vlad Guerrero at the plate, but. 2246 01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:04,439 Speaker 1: Two to one swanging a ball drilled left field going 2247 01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:07,400 Speaker 1: back is Straws there and he makes the catch, and 2248 01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:10,639 Speaker 1: the blue Jays at time this series at two. 2249 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:14,000 Speaker 4: Games apiece, well two of the way you go, Toddy du. 2250 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:17,960 Speaker 1: Swang in a drive left field that one towards the 2251 01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:23,120 Speaker 1: bleachers and gone. Guerrero pumps his fist, yells into the 2252 01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:27,840 Speaker 1: dugout first pace side, and trucks around the bases. It's 2253 01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,439 Speaker 1: a two run homer and Vladdie is given the Blue 2254 01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,559 Speaker 1: Jays a two to one lead. 2255 01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:37,479 Speaker 2: Once again, Guys, the best players just continue to show 2256 01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,400 Speaker 2: up at the biggest moments. It just never ceases to 2257 01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:44,240 Speaker 2: amaze me how consistently the big time guys have their 2258 01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:44,960 Speaker 2: moments Amazing. 2259 01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:48,040 Speaker 4: What happens when you pay players big money? They get 2260 01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:48,920 Speaker 4: you to the World Series. 2261 01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,439 Speaker 5: If lad grow got a big contract, show hey got 2262 01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,760 Speaker 5: a big contract. All these owners are afraid to open 2263 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,360 Speaker 5: the pocketbooks. But look what happens? 2264 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,080 Speaker 4: Are you talking about anybody in particular? 2265 01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:06,280 Speaker 5: Nobody in particular? Couple hours of north west of US, Oh, 2266 01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:08,439 Speaker 5: biblical losses, let's stick it. 2267 01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:09,479 Speaker 2: My favorite part about it? 2268 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:10,559 Speaker 4: Do you want me to wear the T shirt? 2269 01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:10,840 Speaker 7: Again? 2270 01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:11,519 Speaker 8: Not now? 2271 01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,080 Speaker 4: Maybe it comes spring training though It's been a very 2272 01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:16,000 Speaker 4: entertaining World Series, and that's all I can ask for. 2273 01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,439 Speaker 4: As not a one hundred and sixty two night baseball 2274 01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,519 Speaker 4: watcher by any means, as someone that will transition into 2275 01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:25,800 Speaker 4: college basketball and college football very very quickly, I've enjoyed it, 2276 01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,000 Speaker 4: so hopefully goes seven. When would game seven be? And 2277 01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,040 Speaker 4: James tell me it's not on an NFL night? 2278 01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:34,800 Speaker 2: Yead, you're now a full on Major League Baseball fan 2279 01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:35,840 Speaker 2: in the postseason, right. 2280 01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:38,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I said, as a lifelong Dodger fan. 2281 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,160 Speaker 3: Of the last two days, this has been very stressful 2282 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,600 Speaker 3: for you boys. So I did have that got the 2283 01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,719 Speaker 3: rows and bag in his back pocket as he walks 2284 01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:46,240 Speaker 3: in the I was trying to figure out should I 2285 01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:48,280 Speaker 3: get some dipp or should I get the sunflowers? He's 2286 01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:50,920 Speaker 3: first that he's my way into it. But yeah, I 2287 01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:53,400 Speaker 3: was watching that game in all serious is over the 2288 01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,640 Speaker 3: NBA game, which was the Bucks of the Knicks, so 2289 01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:57,320 Speaker 3: kind of lets you know where my head's out. But 2290 01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,880 Speaker 3: I also, like I told you all, I like to 2291 01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,200 Speaker 3: be watching what everyone else is kind of watching, just 2292 01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,040 Speaker 3: so I'm not left out for any crazy moments. 2293 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:07,640 Speaker 5: So if we go seven, I mean, baseball is always like, oh, 2294 01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,160 Speaker 5: such a slog. It takes forever. They're flying through this 2295 01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:13,120 Speaker 5: World Series. Game five to night. Game six is on Halloween. 2296 01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:17,120 Speaker 5: Game seven would be on Saturday. Okay, okay, I can 2297 01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:17,599 Speaker 5: make that work. 2298 01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:19,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can definitely make that work, so that would 2299 01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:23,200 Speaker 4: be local viewing Pacers Warriors for our Purdue football fans 2300 01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:25,760 Speaker 4: out there Perdue, Michigan. I believe it's a night game 2301 01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,479 Speaker 4: Saturday night. I don't think it's a great college football 2302 01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,400 Speaker 4: slate at night. I want to say game days going 2303 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,000 Speaker 4: out West, game days out like a Utah. I don't 2304 01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,240 Speaker 4: think it's a great, great slate. So okay, all right, 2305 01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,200 Speaker 4: that's better than Sunday. I would be down for a 2306 01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:37,960 Speaker 4: Saturday night game. 2307 01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:38,280 Speaker 6: Seven. 2308 01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,960 Speaker 4: Sign me up. And don't we have Bill's Chiefs this weekend? 2309 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:42,160 Speaker 6: Yes? 2310 01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:42,439 Speaker 8: We do. 2311 01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,400 Speaker 4: Is there in our four o'clock window? That is in 2312 01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:46,760 Speaker 4: the four o'clock window? Good? 2313 01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:47,840 Speaker 6: I like it. 2314 01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,439 Speaker 2: What are your kids going as? Did you say, Mark? 2315 01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,600 Speaker 5: I didn't say, oh you're waiting for mail too? Well, no, 2316 01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:56,120 Speaker 5: I thought you were asked what I was going as, 2317 01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:57,720 Speaker 5: because of course I have to dress up too. They 2318 01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,360 Speaker 5: they've told me I have to. So I was like, okay, fine. 2319 01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:05,160 Speaker 5: The oldest is going as Mario. So she's got like 2320 01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,200 Speaker 5: the full like inflatable Yoshi that comes with it. So 2321 01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,080 Speaker 5: she got the hat and the mustache and all that stuff. 2322 01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,080 Speaker 5: She went this Princess Peach last year. Now she's switching 2323 01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:16,200 Speaker 5: up and go Mario with Yoshi, so that's good. The 2324 01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:18,960 Speaker 5: Emma the middle one is going as this character from 2325 01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:21,880 Speaker 5: a Disney show called The Descendants, so she's got a 2326 01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,720 Speaker 5: big red wig to put on. And then Nora is 2327 01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:27,240 Speaker 5: going as I just have to show you a picture 2328 01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,760 Speaker 5: of it. We were at Target and she grabbed a 2329 01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:34,120 Speaker 5: werewolf mask, just an insane looking mask, and she said, 2330 01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:36,479 Speaker 5: I want to be scary this year, so she might 2331 01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,400 Speaker 5: just walk around with that and maybe like a princess 2332 01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,960 Speaker 5: dress so she'd be some like werewolf princess. 2333 01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,320 Speaker 4: Apparently I like it. 2334 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:43,760 Speaker 3: I knew it was the reason why she was. She 2335 01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:45,599 Speaker 3: was always pretty cool. You know, she wants to find 2336 01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,240 Speaker 3: a picture onths ago girls got a good head on. 2337 01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:51,720 Speaker 4: Her shoulders scared. Are you are your girls into this 2338 01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:52,400 Speaker 4: K pop? 2339 01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:54,800 Speaker 7: Yes? 2340 01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:59,240 Speaker 5: If I've heard that Golden song one the world, that 2341 01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,920 Speaker 5: is the hottest Halloween costume of the year. And yeah, 2342 01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:05,000 Speaker 5: thank god that they had already purchased their costumes before 2343 01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,040 Speaker 5: that took off, because yeah, I'm pretty sure they would have. 2344 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:10,280 Speaker 4: All as that same roomy. I mean last night on 2345 01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:13,799 Speaker 4: Roomy Soccer Field just seemed like every human there was roomy. 2346 01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:16,240 Speaker 4: K Pop Demon Hunters. 2347 01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,120 Speaker 5: And every time they saw a character from that they 2348 01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,120 Speaker 5: had to yell it out. And I'm like, okay, I 2349 01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,840 Speaker 5: actually think the music's pretty good. I mean a K 2350 01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:25,559 Speaker 5: pop fand there are some bops in there. 2351 01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:27,759 Speaker 4: I don't want to be purchasing any sort of Halloween 2352 01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,160 Speaker 4: costume for it, but I actually think the music's pretty good. 2353 01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:35,400 Speaker 4: What's a young single guy doing on Halloween this Friday night? Game, James? 2354 01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,160 Speaker 3: You go out as a single guy and enjoy it. 2355 01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,920 Speaker 4: As well of those viewing party situations, right almost. 2356 01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,080 Speaker 3: I ain't got to worry about no kids, so it'll 2357 01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:48,000 Speaker 3: be a nice fun Friday for you. 2358 01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:48,280 Speaker 8: Boy. 2359 01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:55,200 Speaker 4: Hey, you know, like I told you all. 2360 01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:56,680 Speaker 2: Mark, were you here when? 2361 01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:57,200 Speaker 6: When? 2362 01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,480 Speaker 3: When Jeff asked me how dating life was in Indianapoles 2363 01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,320 Speaker 3: and why he was so curious about it? 2364 01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm, you know, checking in on my boy, that's all, 2365 01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:05,519 Speaker 2: you know, good checking. 2366 01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:08,719 Speaker 4: You don't get any wandering eyes here, Dan, you gotta 2367 01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:14,160 Speaker 4: cut you on halloweing Man invite. I'll leave that to you, James. Yeah, 2368 01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:16,519 Speaker 4: you know, I'll leave it to you, all right. 2369 01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:18,519 Speaker 2: Anything else you guys want to throw in before we 2370 01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:22,320 Speaker 2: head onto the show, you're kevin you good? No, I 2371 01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,200 Speaker 2: think you've You've covered it all right, coming up in 2372 01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:29,679 Speaker 2: a moment one of the old guard hammering load management again. 2373 01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:31,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk about it next ninety three. 2374 01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:35,880 Speaker 4: James mentioned this and I was like that, what a 2375 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:41,519 Speaker 4: show show you had James wood Bobin early on the 2376 01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:44,560 Speaker 4: re entry The Wayne's Brothers. God, that was such a 2377 01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:44,920 Speaker 4: good show. 2378 01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,720 Speaker 3: First of all, bring back sitcom. Second of all, bring 2379 01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:51,240 Speaker 3: back thirty minute shows. I missed thirty minute shows and 2380 01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:52,040 Speaker 3: hours a long time. 2381 01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:56,000 Speaker 4: John Witherspoon was so great in that show. Yes, Pops, 2382 01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:56,719 Speaker 4: shout out Pops. 2383 01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:00,599 Speaker 2: It's fan morning show talking about old school TV shows 2384 01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:02,679 Speaker 2: for a while. This Morning Mark has been playing those 2385 01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:03,839 Speaker 2: as a theme today. 2386 01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,439 Speaker 4: What I running back tomorrow too. I've gotten a lot, 2387 01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,559 Speaker 4: but I haven't even gotten into what sparked the the idea. 2388 01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:10,640 Speaker 2: Do you hear something yesterday or. 2389 01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:12,640 Speaker 5: Just was in my head that I'm like, Hey, one 2390 01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:15,160 Speaker 5: of these like slower days, I'm gonna do a bunch 2391 01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,519 Speaker 5: of theme songs. And I'm like, huh, people want to 2392 01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,720 Speaker 5: hear them. I'm like, okay, that's fine, we can. We 2393 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:21,120 Speaker 5: can make do it again tomorrow. Like I said, I've 2394 01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:23,920 Speaker 5: gotten a lot of requests. We only have so many Rejoiners, 2395 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:25,640 Speaker 5: So maybe I'll do it tomorrow as well, before we 2396 01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:26,920 Speaker 5: get into Halloween on Friday. 2397 01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,439 Speaker 4: I think it was the laugh of Marlon Wayin's that 2398 01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:31,679 Speaker 4: just had me loving that show. 2399 01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:36,000 Speaker 5: Keenan and Kel also a great theme song back in 2400 01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:37,839 Speaker 5: the day with Coolio. 2401 01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,040 Speaker 3: They don't make it out anymore. Man, that's the oldest 2402 01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:41,760 Speaker 3: thing I've ever said. 2403 01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:46,280 Speaker 4: It was a good it started for you know, that 2404 01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:49,800 Speaker 4: was the good Burger, was the was on all that? 2405 01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,800 Speaker 5: Which that was another But then no, they worked at 2406 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,240 Speaker 5: like a convenience store and there was Kell and his 2407 01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:55,960 Speaker 5: orange soda. 2408 01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:59,280 Speaker 4: Sure, who loves Orne soda? Kel loves orange soda. 2409 01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:01,920 Speaker 3: Is your neighborhood still trick or treat? And do people 2410 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:03,599 Speaker 3: still come around ring the doorbell and do the whole thing? 2411 01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:07,320 Speaker 4: Yes, yep. We typically in the years past we have 2412 01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:09,200 Speaker 4: just done the bucket and you know we want to 2413 01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:13,400 Speaker 4: go out and watch between max trig or treats. So yeah, 2414 01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:15,479 Speaker 4: I'm always like, Man, if I had more money, I'd 2415 01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:17,200 Speaker 4: love to just put like a little camera on the 2416 01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:22,200 Speaker 4: bucket or right on the railing and just somehow have 2417 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,040 Speaker 4: a voice audio and some kid grabs more than two 2418 01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:26,920 Speaker 4: pieces and me just be like, put. 2419 01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:30,040 Speaker 2: It back and you're giving me grief for scaring kids. 2420 01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:34,120 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, pick on the picture that you sent Jeff 2421 01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:37,599 Speaker 4: was frightening again. Carmel PD is alerted of where your 2422 01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:41,679 Speaker 4: house is long time ago. But yeah, I don't want 2423 01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,000 Speaker 4: you know, the kids that are bringing the pillow cases around, 2424 01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:47,120 Speaker 4: you know full well they're up to bad intentions. There 2425 01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,120 Speaker 4: card and eggs in the bottom of those. They're a 2426 01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:52,800 Speaker 4: steel candy or do that mark? How long do you 2427 01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,320 Speaker 4: think my bucket? I mean I like to go, you know, 2428 01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:57,560 Speaker 4: go to CBS by whatever three or four, but you 2429 01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:00,880 Speaker 4: know it's Halloween. I I'm I'm a Halloween fan. How 2430 01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:05,719 Speaker 4: long do you think that last? It ain't last past? 2431 01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,240 Speaker 4: Do you think ten minutes? Yeah? Yeah, I'm gonna give 2432 01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:10,840 Speaker 4: it a good fifteen. Believe in kid humanity or don't 2433 01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:15,000 Speaker 4: believe in Halloween with candy? It stake no legit I had. 2434 01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:17,920 Speaker 3: I went to talk to Highland Middle School. This was 2435 01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,439 Speaker 3: last year at some point, maybe earlier this year. 2436 01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:22,000 Speaker 4: Rank Gregson the Highland. 2437 01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah it was well, I did you know that? But 2438 01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,479 Speaker 3: it was about a career day and I brought like 2439 01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:32,000 Speaker 3: a big bag of jolly ranchers, And in hindsight, I 2440 01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,040 Speaker 3: should have like just taken some out because I had 2441 01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:36,200 Speaker 3: different groups that will come around for like ten minutes. 2442 01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:38,439 Speaker 3: I just had the bag there and start off, and 2443 01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:40,639 Speaker 3: the kids would just kill like just going the bag 2444 01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,360 Speaker 3: and I would say take two and they're taking ten. 2445 01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,559 Speaker 4: And so I've learned. And in the front of your eyes, yes. 2446 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:48,040 Speaker 3: And so I've learned. What am I gonna do? Like 2447 01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:50,000 Speaker 3: take a kid by and ring a ring his next 2448 01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:54,679 Speaker 3: and taking the Jolly Ranchers. But I was thinking to myself, 2449 01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:57,439 Speaker 3: like going forward, I'll just put some out there and 2450 01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:00,479 Speaker 3: like whatever is left or not left is what that 2451 01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:02,479 Speaker 3: group will take and then replenish as I go. 2452 01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:04,639 Speaker 4: But leaving the bag there to start bad idea. 2453 01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:06,800 Speaker 5: See we have like the we have the doorbell camera 2454 01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,440 Speaker 5: and we've had it out and the kids have been respectful. 2455 01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,920 Speaker 5: They take a couple pieces and go. We never got 2456 01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:13,759 Speaker 5: one where they just dumped the bucket in or anything 2457 01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:16,040 Speaker 5: like that. So Brownsburg, no wonder you guys are so 2458 01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:18,479 Speaker 5: high in the list of places now. I also I'm like, 2459 01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:21,240 Speaker 5: if they took does that mean they respect the candy 2460 01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:22,840 Speaker 5: that's in there, because there's good stuff in there. But 2461 01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:24,519 Speaker 5: I'm like, if they're are they not grabbing or maybe 2462 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:25,600 Speaker 5: the parents are just like no, no, no. 2463 01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,280 Speaker 4: Maybe the parents are. Probably if they're younger, the parents are. 2464 01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:30,960 Speaker 3: But I mean when I got to being I don't know, 2465 01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,120 Speaker 3: around middle school, wasn't my parents are will follow me 2466 01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:36,280 Speaker 3: around for this stuff. So yeah, that can't see that 2467 01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:37,160 Speaker 3: candy is not lasting. 2468 01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:39,400 Speaker 5: I know we got a lot of it already. We've 2469 01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:40,800 Speaker 5: done too many trunk or treats. I'm like, are we 2470 01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:42,640 Speaker 5: done now? They've got plenty. We don't even need to 2471 01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:44,320 Speaker 5: go up Friday night. We got too much. 2472 01:50:45,120 --> 01:50:47,880 Speaker 2: There's always one kid that shows up at like six 2473 01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:51,160 Speaker 2: thirty or seven that I don't know if it's just 2474 01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:54,040 Speaker 2: he's big for his age or whatever, but he's like 2475 01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:57,400 Speaker 2: five foot ten, one hundred and fifty pounds. 2476 01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:01,240 Speaker 4: He's like the crash. Right, we went to a trunker 2477 01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:01,880 Speaker 4: treat last night. 2478 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:03,759 Speaker 5: I swear there's I thought it was a dad dressed 2479 01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:05,200 Speaker 5: up and I'm like, that is a that is a 2480 01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:09,519 Speaker 5: child that is like the size of Kevin Bowen striper where. 2481 01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:10,880 Speaker 2: Those kids just start shaving at twelve? 2482 01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:11,400 Speaker 4: Right? 2483 01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:12,240 Speaker 6: How old? 2484 01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,920 Speaker 4: How old is too old a tricker treat? When your 2485 01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:18,760 Speaker 4: voice starts dropping, I feel like, yeah, that's that's a 2486 01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:20,680 Speaker 4: great question, because I'm gonna lie once I start I 2487 01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:21,559 Speaker 4: seeing this fourth you. 2488 01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:24,160 Speaker 3: Could work a job now this year, you know, this 2489 01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,160 Speaker 3: year from that and I see Jaking Grant walking the 2490 01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,240 Speaker 3: streets of Indianapolis tri or treaty. 2491 01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,640 Speaker 2: They lost their interest in trick or treating about three 2492 01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:31,040 Speaker 2: years ago. 2493 01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,320 Speaker 4: Now this year we do have obviously the high school 2494 01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:35,719 Speaker 4: scene on Friday night, you know, to my final around. 2495 01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:39,120 Speaker 4: So I assume you'll have a lot of people be attending, 2496 01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,600 Speaker 4: you know that. So but yeah, I don't know. I 2497 01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:44,439 Speaker 4: think there's a little cut off there right around twelve 2498 01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:46,360 Speaker 4: thirteen fourteen put around there. 2499 01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:48,800 Speaker 2: Check the fan text line of two three ninety ten 2500 01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:49,519 Speaker 2: sad I said. 2501 01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:50,680 Speaker 4: You guys are in the break and just to make 2502 01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:54,799 Speaker 4: sure I'm fully transparent here, Uh, being on a college 2503 01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:58,560 Speaker 4: campus on Halloween is the number one reason why I 2504 01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:02,000 Speaker 4: didn't want to have a daughter. And here you are, 2505 01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:05,000 Speaker 4: Here you are, and I've got one. I've got one 2506 01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:07,479 Speaker 4: on the way. I've got three, John right there with you. 2507 01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:09,000 Speaker 6: Boy. 2508 01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:13,040 Speaker 2: It was a great time, dear lord. Yeah, oh boy, 2509 01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:15,360 Speaker 2: I got two boys. We just always preach about staying 2510 01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,679 Speaker 2: out of trouble and respecting women. Yes, all the time, 2511 01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,240 Speaker 2: respect women. It's that out of trouble. Hey, that's how 2512 01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:22,840 Speaker 2: we do it. Uh, check into the fan text line 2513 01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:24,920 Speaker 2: right now two through nine, ten seventy. Here's it's speaking 2514 01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:26,559 Speaker 2: of blast from the past. It's kind of why I've 2515 01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:29,840 Speaker 2: decided to bring it up. Is Oladipo not someone they'd 2516 01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:32,120 Speaker 2: consider to come in and play point guard. He hasn't 2517 01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:33,479 Speaker 2: played in two seasons. 2518 01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:36,040 Speaker 3: This is more blasto missioning Russell Westbrook. 2519 01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:38,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say it sounds like James's burner here. 2520 01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:41,400 Speaker 3: No, Russell west we never committed treason with his team. 2521 01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,800 Speaker 2: So no, I mean after saying this is my city. 2522 01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:48,600 Speaker 4: No, it's after he say will you come get me? 2523 01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:50,360 Speaker 4: I want to play with you now again. According to 2524 01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:53,360 Speaker 4: Scott Agnes, one of the players in the workout yesterday 2525 01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:55,800 Speaker 4: that mac McClung, one that Rick Carlisle referred to us 2526 01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:59,160 Speaker 4: was Monte Morris. And if you remember, James Morris was 2527 01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,760 Speaker 4: supposed to be the initial right veteran point guard brought in. 2528 01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:05,840 Speaker 4: I believe some physical ailment I think it was a 2529 01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:07,920 Speaker 4: calf and this would have been like a month ago, right, 2530 01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,880 Speaker 4: this was before the season started, right, caused the Pacers 2531 01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:13,960 Speaker 4: not to sign him. So initially that was the thought 2532 01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:17,320 Speaker 4: Monty Morris has been I think a pretty solid veteran 2533 01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:19,639 Speaker 4: guard in a variety of roles in his NBA career. 2534 01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,760 Speaker 4: Then they went to the Delon Right route. He got 2535 01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:26,320 Speaker 4: busted in the head in Minnesota the same night TJ 2536 01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:28,639 Speaker 4: McConnell heard his hamstring. So then they went to Cameron 2537 01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:33,760 Speaker 4: payin route that didn't appear to work out. And now 2538 01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:38,040 Speaker 4: here we are with Mac McClung coming up tonight and 2539 01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:41,040 Speaker 4: we'll see again what his role looks like down there 2540 01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:41,880 Speaker 4: in Dallas. 2541 01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:44,800 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think those guys have to worry about 2542 01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:47,960 Speaker 2: load management too much. But last night, Michael Jordan, how 2543 01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:49,679 Speaker 2: do you like this format where Mike Triico just talks 2544 01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:52,240 Speaker 2: to Michael Jordan kind of a just interviews him on 2545 01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:53,280 Speaker 2: certain topics. 2546 01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'll be honest with you all, I think it's boring. 2547 01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:00,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I grew up in the MJ era, so 2548 01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,599 Speaker 3: I understand he's great player. The great player ever, I think, 2549 01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,679 Speaker 3: and six rings is hard to argue with six finals MVPs, 2550 01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:09,000 Speaker 3: But it's boring to me. What is he saying that's 2551 01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:11,720 Speaker 3: not groundbreaking or riveting? Is it just the fact that 2552 01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:12,240 Speaker 3: he's saying it? 2553 01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:14,759 Speaker 2: Yes, the fact that and a guy that played whenever 2554 01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:16,760 Speaker 2: he could, eighty two games a year, he did that 2555 01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:20,960 Speaker 2: several times, does not see the need for load management. 2556 01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:22,400 Speaker 2: He said, you know, I never wanted to miss a 2557 01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:24,280 Speaker 2: game because it was an opportunity to prove. It was 2558 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,280 Speaker 2: something that I felt like, the fans are there to 2559 01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:29,519 Speaker 2: watch me play. I want to impress the guy way 2560 01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:32,040 Speaker 2: up top who probably worked his butt off to get 2561 01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:34,320 Speaker 2: a ticket or to get money to buy the ticket. 2562 01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:38,040 Speaker 3: I think the lower management conversation is a bit of 2563 01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:41,120 Speaker 3: a straw man argument to a degree, because if you 2564 01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:43,840 Speaker 3: look at the stars of this era, the only ones 2565 01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:46,000 Speaker 3: you can really say who haven't played or Kawhi Leonard 2566 01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,560 Speaker 3: and Joel Embiid who've had extensive injury history. Lebron plays 2567 01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:52,400 Speaker 3: almost every night, Steph Curry plays almost every night, Kevin 2568 01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,120 Speaker 3: Durant plays almost every night, James Harden plays almost every night. 2569 01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:56,680 Speaker 2: So what are we talking about, Well, there was a 2570 01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:58,840 Speaker 2: stretch here for a couple of years where Lebron James 2571 01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:02,480 Speaker 2: just didn't play in INDI less and I know that 2572 01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:05,200 Speaker 2: there was. I remember going to a game one night 2573 01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:07,640 Speaker 2: and Lebron didn't announce he wasn't going to play till 2574 01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:11,960 Speaker 2: like four o'clock, and as as kids started to come 2575 01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,560 Speaker 2: into the arena. I literally remember seeing one kid that 2576 01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:17,600 Speaker 2: was in tears in his Lebron James uniform because he'd 2577 01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,760 Speaker 2: been waiting all season to see Lebron James. And it 2578 01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:20,879 Speaker 2: was just load management. 2579 01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:23,880 Speaker 3: I mean, the guy played last year against him, and 2580 01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:25,720 Speaker 3: he had thirty nine a game a couple of years 2581 01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:27,440 Speaker 3: ago here in Indianapolis. I was there for that, So 2582 01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:29,880 Speaker 3: I think that that's overblown. But that's my I mean, 2583 01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:32,800 Speaker 3: what do you guys think. I think you showing him 2584 01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:34,560 Speaker 3: twenty questions and he's sitting down. 2585 01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:38,320 Speaker 4: I believe that Lebron I might have the FIRLS star. Ever, 2586 01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:40,160 Speaker 4: I might have had this wrong. I think Lebron has 2587 01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:43,880 Speaker 4: played the most games against the Pacers of any teams. 2588 01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:45,120 Speaker 2: I just remember there was a couple of years in 2589 01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:46,400 Speaker 2: a row he didn't didn't play much. 2590 01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:48,160 Speaker 4: I could have that wrong. Maybe I'm wrong to me, 2591 01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,200 Speaker 4: you know, is load management of thing to some degree? 2592 01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:54,000 Speaker 4: You know, maybe it is. But at the same time, 2593 01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:58,160 Speaker 4: when we're so ring hungry, and if you're going to 2594 01:55:58,200 --> 01:55:59,920 Speaker 4: sit here and say, hey, if you sit out tonight, 2595 01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:01,240 Speaker 4: you got a better chance to be ready for the 2596 01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:05,080 Speaker 4: playoffs in April, you're gonna be mad about that if 2597 01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:07,240 Speaker 4: that's your team. I don't know. 2598 01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,120 Speaker 2: To me, you get paid that kind of money, just 2599 01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:11,360 Speaker 2: show up and play bad. I don't understand at that 2600 01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:13,240 Speaker 2: age why you can't show up and play basketball. 2601 01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:17,320 Speaker 4: So Tyre's Halliburn's risking it in November to potentially be 2602 01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:20,800 Speaker 4: hurt in April. That's what you want your star player 2603 01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:21,040 Speaker 4: to do. 2604 01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, but didn't used to always work out 2605 01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:24,880 Speaker 2: that way for guys that played a lot in the 2606 01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:26,440 Speaker 2: early part of the season. They were still playing in 2607 01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:27,640 Speaker 2: the playoffs back in the day. 2608 01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:30,800 Speaker 4: Sports science I think has changed a lot of things. 2609 01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:32,320 Speaker 4: I think now all of a sudden, you hear it, 2610 01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,040 Speaker 4: you see it in the NFL a lot with this. 2611 01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,600 Speaker 4: You know, hey, we're gonna sleep, sleep, sleep, and we're 2612 01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:40,280 Speaker 4: gonna go to walk throughs on Wednesdays. And Yeah, I 2613 01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:42,320 Speaker 4: just think times evolved. I think sports science has really 2614 01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:44,960 Speaker 4: infiltrated a lot of it. Sure, maybe it is a 2615 01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:48,360 Speaker 4: little bit more of a societal thing. But if I 2616 01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,800 Speaker 4: am a fan of a team and my player sitting 2617 01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:56,000 Speaker 4: out a Wednesday in November could potentially help that player 2618 01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:59,880 Speaker 4: in the playoffs come April in May, I'm probably gonna 2619 01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:02,360 Speaker 4: vote for the latter right. 2620 01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:03,920 Speaker 2: I get you, that's a style. 2621 01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:06,680 Speaker 3: We just saw it last year with Siakam at the 2622 01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:08,920 Speaker 3: end of the year he was looking bad and then 2623 01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:10,680 Speaker 3: we all said he needs to tick the time off, 2624 01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:11,920 Speaker 3: and he did and came back in the playoffs and 2625 01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:12,320 Speaker 3: balled out. 2626 01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,040 Speaker 4: I just don't know what the happy medium is there. 2627 01:57:14,120 --> 01:57:16,080 Speaker 4: I know, I think it's a very difficult question. To 2628 01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:18,960 Speaker 4: be fair, I think it's difficult. I certainly hear people 2629 01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:22,120 Speaker 4: out and yeah, I'm sure it's frustrating for fans that 2630 01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:23,960 Speaker 4: are spending an absurd amount of money. That's why I 2631 01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:25,840 Speaker 4: brought up earlier in the show with Steph Curry on 2632 01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:29,440 Speaker 4: Saturday night, the Warriors don't play the night before, and 2633 01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:31,440 Speaker 4: I think it was last year, if I'm not mistaken, 2634 01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:34,040 Speaker 4: didn't Steph like bring some kids into the locker room. 2635 01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:35,840 Speaker 4: I think to try and do a little bit of 2636 01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:38,960 Speaker 4: a whatever meet and greet or something. Again, there's no 2637 01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:43,440 Speaker 4: easy solution to any of this. Lebron James is forty 2638 01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:44,160 Speaker 4: years old. 2639 01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:47,240 Speaker 2: Like I do understand more when you start to get 2640 01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:50,080 Speaker 2: later on in your career that I get. I'm talking 2641 01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:52,600 Speaker 2: about guys in their first six seven years of their career. 2642 01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:54,240 Speaker 2: I don't understand why they can't play every night. 2643 01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:56,560 Speaker 4: Again, if there is a glimmer of you know, James 2644 01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:59,160 Speaker 4: brought up the obi top and stress reaction earlier, if 2645 01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,880 Speaker 4: there is a flick of, hey, if this guy sits 2646 01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:04,400 Speaker 4: to night, I think that's the best thing to do 2647 01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:06,480 Speaker 4: because if he puts more wear and tear on it, 2648 01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:08,600 Speaker 4: that can impact the rest of the season. Are you 2649 01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:09,680 Speaker 4: really gonna argue against that? 2650 01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:10,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2651 01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,720 Speaker 3: Like I said, argument is just look at today stars 2652 01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:13,879 Speaker 3: and tell them who doesn't play. 2653 01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:17,640 Speaker 2: Well Again. I come from an era where I covered 2654 01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:20,320 Speaker 2: Stockham alone. Guys on those teams never miss games ever, 2655 01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:23,720 Speaker 2: Like in years, they didn't miss games, right. 2656 01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,720 Speaker 3: Steph Curried on miss games. Lebron on miss games unless 2657 01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:30,480 Speaker 3: they're hurt. KD doesn't miss games. Sga doesn't miss games. 2658 01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:32,120 Speaker 3: Giannis plays every night. 2659 01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:36,120 Speaker 2: Like, but I'm talking about guys that played eighty eighty one, 2660 01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:38,800 Speaker 2: eighty two games. You can talk about Lebron playing every 2661 01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,920 Speaker 2: night and yes he's played. Look, I'm not gonna argue 2662 01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:45,040 Speaker 2: seventy six, seventy four. He had one year in his 2663 01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:47,040 Speaker 2: entire career that he played all eighty two games, which 2664 01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:49,440 Speaker 2: is amazing. And yes, you get hurt and I don't 2665 01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:52,960 Speaker 2: think guys get hurt should play. Obviously, I will say 2666 01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:56,000 Speaker 2: the last two years, at his advanced age, I give 2667 01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,640 Speaker 2: him a lot of credit. Seventy one games in twenty three, 2668 01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:01,200 Speaker 2: twenty four and seventy games last year. That's a lot 2669 01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:02,360 Speaker 2: of games for a guy his age. 2670 01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,480 Speaker 4: I'm not mad at that. So did Caitlin Clark load 2671 01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:05,320 Speaker 4: managed last year. 2672 01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that is a conversation's overblown. That's 2673 01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:08,880 Speaker 3: my opinion though. 2674 01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:09,320 Speaker 7: That's all. 2675 01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:11,320 Speaker 2: It's all good. That's why I bring it up. 2676 01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:11,520 Speaker 6: Though. 2677 01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:14,040 Speaker 2: Coming up in a minute, we'll send you off to 2678 01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:16,320 Speaker 2: what should be a busy night of sports around here 2679 01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:19,320 Speaker 2: for college basketball at least, and find out what everybody's 2680 01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:20,600 Speaker 2: gonna be up to this evening. We'll do it next 2681 01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:24,320 Speaker 2: at ninety three five and one seven five. Yeah, tough 2682 01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,520 Speaker 2: day and having a lot of fun playing some old 2683 01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:29,240 Speaker 2: TV tunes. I never got my magnum PI. 2684 01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:31,520 Speaker 4: Theme, like I said, I might running back. Okay, see 2685 01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:32,360 Speaker 4: what happens tomorrow. 2686 01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:34,600 Speaker 5: I have to pull up like the VHS tapes and 2687 01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:38,080 Speaker 5: try to find that one. It's come on now, blow 2688 01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:39,360 Speaker 5: off the projector. 2689 01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,000 Speaker 4: Oh look it's his mustache. Well Eve. 2690 01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:46,560 Speaker 2: They play a version of even for the new Magnum Pi. 2691 01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:48,600 Speaker 5: I haven't watched them. I've never seen the old one. 2692 01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:50,400 Speaker 5: I've never seen the new one, but I have heard 2693 01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:53,040 Speaker 5: that that. Yes, I know there's a million theme songs 2694 01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:55,720 Speaker 5: people requested. We will run it back tomorrow and we'll 2695 01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:56,040 Speaker 5: do more. 2696 01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:57,520 Speaker 2: I think you would have liked either the new or 2697 01:59:57,560 --> 02:00:00,320 Speaker 2: the old magnum Pi. Okay, just a tech you know, 2698 02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:02,800 Speaker 2: run around, try to catch bad guys. 2699 02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:04,800 Speaker 5: Remember my mom used to watch like Murder, she wrote, 2700 02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:06,560 Speaker 5: and I thought that was the oldest show of all time. 2701 02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:10,280 Speaker 5: Was I'm like, what are we doing here? 2702 02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:12,680 Speaker 2: So you're not a Golden Girls fan. 2703 02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:15,400 Speaker 5: I don't mind the Golden Girls, I guess, but I 2704 02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:18,640 Speaker 5: was always like, what are we doing? What shows are these? 2705 02:00:19,640 --> 02:00:23,280 Speaker 2: It's been It's all been replaced by the gritty series 2706 02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:23,840 Speaker 2: that you see on. 2707 02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:25,800 Speaker 4: Like Netflix and Amazon. Now. 2708 02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:29,480 Speaker 2: Although I do like me a good Jack Reacher series, 2709 02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:33,800 Speaker 2: Jack Ryan, that's not bad. You guys like any of 2710 02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:34,240 Speaker 2: that stuff? 2711 02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:38,320 Speaker 4: I have not watched any not super super familiar. Maddy 2712 02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:43,160 Speaker 4: wants to watch Cocaine Quarterback right now on Hotel I 2713 02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:46,840 Speaker 4: think it's Netflix. What about the USC guy I believes 2714 02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:47,880 Speaker 4: coming like a drug dealer. 2715 02:00:48,120 --> 02:00:50,760 Speaker 5: Kevin's already off that if it's usc anything he's he's 2716 02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:51,480 Speaker 5: not watching. 2717 02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:54,840 Speaker 4: Bugget of Light, then I'm by all means I might 2718 02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:56,880 Speaker 4: bene it tonight, might stay up with three am watching 2719 02:00:57,080 --> 02:00:58,880 Speaker 4: What do you do you bene it anything these days? 2720 02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:03,160 Speaker 3: I just finished up gen V, which is like a 2721 02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:06,720 Speaker 3: superhero show on Prime. It is wild, not for kids 2722 02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:07,160 Speaker 3: at all. 2723 02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:08,720 Speaker 4: That was pretty good. 2724 02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:13,440 Speaker 3: I watched Task on HBO, like a one season drama show. 2725 02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:16,880 Speaker 3: Thought that was pretty good. And I need to finish 2726 02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:19,200 Speaker 3: up the Netflix starting five with Halliburton. 2727 02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:22,640 Speaker 2: I started watching like the first ten minutes of that 2728 02:01:22,720 --> 02:01:24,600 Speaker 2: on an airplane the other day and something happened and 2729 02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:26,200 Speaker 2: I had to stop, and I just haven't gotten back 2730 02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:28,480 Speaker 2: to it yet. So have you seen the whole thing starting? 2731 02:01:28,680 --> 02:01:29,240 Speaker 6: No, I. 2732 02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:35,280 Speaker 4: Just fast forward to the Halliburton parts. Okay, that's useful. 2733 02:01:35,480 --> 02:01:37,200 Speaker 4: That's useful time right there, because if you don't care 2734 02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:38,520 Speaker 4: about the other guys, just skip through it. 2735 02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:38,920 Speaker 6: Well. 2736 02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, I mean I forget what. It 2737 02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:43,200 Speaker 4: came out a couple thursdays ago, and you know, I 2738 02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:44,960 Speaker 4: didn't have enough time, but I wanted to talk about 2739 02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:47,480 Speaker 4: it on the Friday show that we had. I mean, 2740 02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:49,640 Speaker 4: I thought it was tremendously well done. I could not 2741 02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:52,280 Speaker 4: endorse it more. I think I think you learn a 2742 02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,960 Speaker 4: ton about Halliburton's great behind the scenes stuff. You laugh, 2743 02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:57,680 Speaker 4: you probably are gonna cry. I thought it was really 2744 02:01:57,760 --> 02:01:59,960 Speaker 4: really well done and they and they get you know, 2745 02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:04,480 Speaker 4: very into the finals individually each game, which you know, 2746 02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:08,360 Speaker 4: if you can handle the emotional ending of it, I 2747 02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:09,960 Speaker 4: think it's worth the watch. That's pretty much what the 2748 02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:11,160 Speaker 4: whole final episode's about. 2749 02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:16,280 Speaker 2: That's look, they got drama. You talk about picking the 2750 02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:18,640 Speaker 2: right two teams and two of the right people to follow, 2751 02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:20,280 Speaker 2: they got drama on that whole thing, that's for sure. 2752 02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:23,120 Speaker 4: Pacers could use a win tonight, breaking news from Kevin 2753 02:02:23,160 --> 02:02:25,160 Speaker 4: Bowen to nine to fifty one in the morning's gonna say, yeah, 2754 02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:30,520 Speaker 4: you could use a win Hawks Warriors this weekend. The 2755 02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:32,720 Speaker 4: Bucks are off to a nice start on Monday. Again 2756 02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:37,480 Speaker 4: you go out west. Not a ton of great opportunities 2757 02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:42,600 Speaker 4: on paper. So yes, breaking news for me, the Pacers 2758 02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:43,240 Speaker 4: could use a win. 2759 02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:45,760 Speaker 2: You're gonna hear it right here on ninety three five 2760 02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:48,400 Speaker 2: one seven, Fan or Mark, I'm guessing it's a two 2761 02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:51,640 Speaker 2: TV night World Series and Pacers at your place? Sure? 2762 02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:54,640 Speaker 5: Absolutely, It usually is a two TV night there's usually 2763 02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:56,600 Speaker 5: something on because the I'll be wanting to watch sports 2764 02:02:56,600 --> 02:02:58,000 Speaker 5: and the girls want to watch something else. 2765 02:02:58,120 --> 02:03:00,920 Speaker 4: So I threw on it the other day. The movie 2766 02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:03,000 Speaker 4: it tried to scare the Bejesus out them. 2767 02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:06,000 Speaker 5: That worked out, Well, why are we watching this because 2768 02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:08,000 Speaker 5: you guys need to get them scares and can't be 2769 02:03:08,040 --> 02:03:10,680 Speaker 5: watching hocus Pocus and all this other We need some 2770 02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:11,760 Speaker 5: scares on Halloween. 2771 02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:13,880 Speaker 2: You gonna graduated the Ozark next year too. 2772 02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:19,880 Speaker 5: No, I don't think we're going to Ozark yet, but yeah, 2773 02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:22,320 Speaker 5: I wanted to throw on what was the movie the 2774 02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:22,720 Speaker 5: other day? 2775 02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:22,880 Speaker 6: Oh? 2776 02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:25,920 Speaker 5: Weapons, I've heard that's very good. I was gonna throw 2777 02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:27,880 Speaker 5: that on. I told them the other day. So I 2778 02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:30,440 Speaker 5: were watching Sinners or watching Weapons, and they didn't want 2779 02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:32,280 Speaker 5: to watch either of my and my wife say, don't 2780 02:03:32,280 --> 02:03:33,840 Speaker 5: put that on them, Like, I'm just testing them. I 2781 02:03:33,880 --> 02:03:35,480 Speaker 5: want to see what they choose. 2782 02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,120 Speaker 2: You were going to show you Sinners? 2783 02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:39,320 Speaker 6: Maybe? 2784 02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:40,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, at some point, why not? 2785 02:03:41,320 --> 02:03:42,680 Speaker 2: Hell is the oldest eight? 2786 02:03:45,160 --> 02:03:47,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure there's scenes. 2787 02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, my parents watched. I watched a bunch of Radar movie. 2788 02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:52,160 Speaker 3: There was like, hey, close your eyes, turn your head 2789 02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:53,400 Speaker 3: at this point, and get back to the movie. 2790 02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:57,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty simple stuff. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we've covered 2791 02:03:57,160 --> 02:03:58,360 Speaker 4: their eyes a couple of times on scenes. 2792 02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:01,920 Speaker 2: Grant is looking forward to spending an evening with James 2793 02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:04,000 Speaker 2: Boyd one night, but I'm not sure can I trust that? 2794 02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:05,080 Speaker 6: Well? 2795 02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:08,120 Speaker 4: I don't know, Jeff. Have they watched Radar movie to flay? 2796 02:04:08,200 --> 02:04:10,840 Speaker 4: You guys are a little late. I'm like to the party. 2797 02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:13,520 Speaker 4: I'm like a fourteen twelve. I was watching whatever. 2798 02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:16,320 Speaker 2: You gotta figure out what each kid is ready for. 2799 02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:18,360 Speaker 2: Though it's kind of an individual thing. 2800 02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:21,640 Speaker 4: Something something about my about Mary put that on. Let 2801 02:04:21,680 --> 02:04:23,840 Speaker 4: them watch that. Yeah, I feel like it. 2802 02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:25,200 Speaker 3: Was always just kind of will throw you in the 2803 02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:27,320 Speaker 3: deep end and see if you can swim type of thing. 2804 02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:31,240 Speaker 2: Uh, Kevin, you got two and one on the way, man, 2805 02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:33,040 Speaker 2: and now you're worried about all of a sudden, you're 2806 02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:34,480 Speaker 2: worried about Halloween with two daughters. 2807 02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:37,760 Speaker 4: I'm worried about Boston College on Saturday is what I'm 2808 02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:40,600 Speaker 4: really worried about. Kevin gonna slap the floor for Boston 2809 02:04:40,640 --> 02:04:45,560 Speaker 4: College Eagles, Long Island Monday for the Irish basketball team 2810 02:04:45,560 --> 02:04:47,000 Speaker 4: getting on the hardwood here. If you guys want to 2811 02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:52,280 Speaker 4: come over until weirdo, but you are consistent respect. Boston 2812 02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,400 Speaker 4: College has ruined some Notre Dame seasons before. Do I 2813 02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:57,440 Speaker 4: need to remind anybody Boston College had football coaches who boys? 2814 02:04:58,600 --> 02:04:59,440 Speaker 3: I actually don't know this. 2815 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,760 Speaker 4: Come on, I really don't know this former AFC South legend. 2816 02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:05,840 Speaker 4: Am I supposed to know it is? 2817 02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember who it is now and I don't. 2818 02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:08,560 Speaker 7: I don't know. 2819 02:05:08,680 --> 02:05:10,960 Speaker 4: Jff, come here with that, Jeff Fisher. 2820 02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:15,040 Speaker 2: I wish Bill O'Brien O'Brien. 2821 02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:17,400 Speaker 3: You know where Bill O'Brien is in the year twenty 2822 02:05:17,480 --> 02:05:17,960 Speaker 3: twenty five. 2823 02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:19,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Bill O'Brien, all right. 2824 02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:22,080 Speaker 2: Jacob the Noon Jay and Via three a half agree