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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the

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Speaker 1: Fan he Sees the Fan Morning Show with KB, Shady and.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Do not adjust your dial up down the lawn,

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Speaker 2: got a pull.

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Speaker 3: Nimpart No say it with your chest Tyrese Haliburton takes

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Speaker 3: it to the back.

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Speaker 4: Corse crosses over on Beverley float game for.

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Speaker 5: The word.

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Speaker 6: Tyres the terror.

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Speaker 1: Turner with the blunt shots the other way, top up.

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Speaker 6: The tru lace.

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Speaker 4: You did see the right partner?

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Speaker 7: I saw, Oh my goodness, Oby top it Caliverton.

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Speaker 3: Double team shot clock at four never Mart's gotta put

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Speaker 3: it up, step back. Here's three quarters them heart knocked

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Speaker 3: the three down, time out.

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Speaker 2: Next seventeen thousand on their feet see yaka eight three

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Speaker 2: see HiT's the three six.

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Speaker 8: Pacers half the league.

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Speaker 6: He Smith for the running stop just destroy it intermase.

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Speaker 3: Ten seconds, McConnell basely Trin gives it up top in

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Speaker 3: counter thread and Ronald Dan Indiana pulls off a second.

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Speaker 9: Gats it put off. I guess thirty with sixty shoot antwop.

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Speaker 6: My father's chicken.

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Speaker 3: Please give me some smothered ticket on that one PACER's

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Speaker 3: down three, Caliburn's got the ball, Caliburton rises up. Goodness,

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Speaker 3: Toliburton hits up three and is found.

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Speaker 6: You have got to be kidding me. I want to

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Speaker 6: see the faces.

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Speaker 4: Of those guys. Hey, what the helly, what the helly?

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Speaker 7: We get it started again. Tonight's inside a game.

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Speaker 9: Bridge give us his mother chicken on that one?

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Speaker 7: Was that James Wood or was that Quinn Buckman?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Let's it go year twenty for Christen Aari again. Even

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Speaker 7: though it's on ESPN tonight, you will have opposite from

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Speaker 7: a fandual standpoint there, and of course on our airwaves

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Speaker 7: you're thirty eight for Mark Boyle. So very fortunate in

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Speaker 7: this market to have such legends over the years on it.

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Speaker 7: And we'll continue to get you set for that. Just

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Speaker 7: a reminder Sunday it'll be a little different from a

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Speaker 7: listening standpoint on our airwaves. Colts Titans. That's going to

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Speaker 7: be on our sister station that's ninety seven point one

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Speaker 7: Hank FM. You can catch the ride to kickoff with

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Speaker 7: cham V of course in that Cults pregame huddle that

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Speaker 7: I'll start at twelve thirty right here on the fan.

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Speaker 7: Then once game time starts sister station four to twenty

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Speaker 7: five kickoff there ninety seven point one. The reason for

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Speaker 7: that is you have Pacers and t Wolves. Speaking of

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Speaker 7: Michael Grady, whose voice you heard there. Probably one of

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Speaker 7: the epic regular season games of last year was when

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Speaker 7: Obi Toppen went off in Minnesota. There the Pacers will

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Speaker 7: be in Minnesota. Our coverage will begin at six thirty PM,

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Speaker 7: So instead of having this fourth quarter flipping over stations,

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Speaker 7: Colts Titans will be on ninety seven point one and

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Speaker 7: Pacers and t Wolves will be right here on the

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Speaker 7: fan ninety three five and one oh seven to five. James,

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Speaker 7: We've talked about this a little bit, but that early

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Speaker 7: start to the season schedule for the Pacers, I think

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Speaker 7: it's one of the more difficult starts you could have,

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Speaker 7: certainly of many teams in the league. Again, tonight it's

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Speaker 7: a thunder. Then they will go back to back this

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Speaker 7: weekend Memphis and Minnesota. They'll wrap up with Dallas on Wednesday,

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Speaker 7: so it's a three game road trip Memphis, Minnesota back

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Speaker 7: a four game homestand within that four game homestand Golden

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Speaker 7: State and Milwaukee, two teams that you know, kind of

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Speaker 7: So you know, right out of the gate, I think

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Speaker 7: it's a very difficult schedule, and you're doing it, you know,

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Speaker 7: without TJ McConnell for probably ten to twelve games as well.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so I'm very curious to see tonight who takes

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Speaker 11: on those backup point guard duties and how does that

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Speaker 11: all look because that is.

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Speaker 9: A big, big role for an NBA team.

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Speaker 11: This isn't football, obviously, where the backup quarterback never really

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Speaker 11: played unless something catastrophic happens. Backup point guards in the

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Speaker 11: was gonna be the best backup point guard in the

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Speaker 11: league last year. So, you know, does that mean the

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Speaker 11: rookie Taylor Peter will get a crack at point guard?

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Speaker 11: I've been impressed with I've seen what I've seen for

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Speaker 11: him so far. But at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 11: you're relying on some guys who probably haven't been in

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Speaker 8: Has the bet been placed, Kevin?

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Speaker 7: The bet? Yeah, it does need to be placed now

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Speaker 7: that now that you say that, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna need that number. We need that number two.

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Speaker 7: To confirm with Jason Hammer. Him and I were chatting

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Speaker 7: about this earlier. I think the bet I'm gonna go

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Speaker 7: with is the Pacers is a top six seed. I

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Speaker 7: think he got that at plus like three thirty.

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Speaker 8: So not win total. You're just gonna go I like

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Speaker 8: that one, Okay.

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Speaker 7: That is it probably is a little more juice, honestly

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Speaker 7: than win total, to be honest with you. So for

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Speaker 7: our non betters out there, that would be like a

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Speaker 7: was at plus three thirty. So Jason hammerg joined us

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Speaker 7: at nine thirty. I want to confirm with him and

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Speaker 12: Max Bones college fund and Rosie's college fund is, what

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Speaker 12: is this? How many years in a row have you

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Speaker 12: hitting out?

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Speaker 6: For three years?

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Speaker 7: I think this will be year four? Yes, so knock

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Speaker 7: on that? Would you mentioned backups? Are we gonna get

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Speaker 7: our first? Riley Leonard NFL snap on Sunday.

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Speaker 8: Garbage time.

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Speaker 11: He's gonna say, you gotta be clear here, Kevin, Yes,

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Speaker 11: knock on some wo man.

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Speaker 7: Thank you guys for making me clarify that. Yes, garbage

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Speaker 7: time thank you, Mark.

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Speaker 11: I think it's a real possibility the way this team

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Speaker 11: has been scoring. Man, you get up and the third

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Speaker 11: or fourth quarter and you're up twenty points. Put the

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Speaker 11: let's do to dame slash. Colts fans really bask in

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Speaker 11: the glory of him being QB two.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna throw some minutes at you tonight for the Pacers.

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Speaker 7: And to be fair, James, I got no freaking idea,

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Speaker 7: exercise I did yesterday. I'm like Kevin, this is just

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Speaker 7: sounds stupid, but here we go. I got Nembar playing

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Speaker 7: thirty two minutes, mather In thirty two, Nie Smith thirty two,

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Speaker 7: Pascal thirty two. Just throwing rough numbers at some starters.

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Speaker 9: Okay, that's fair.

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Speaker 7: My center combo, in some way, shape or form, does

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Speaker 9: I think they could be their best lineup, And like

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Speaker 7: Is that what you finished the game with if it's

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Speaker 11: I think it probably depends on the opponent. Maybe if

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Speaker 11: if you want a bit more rebounding. But even then,

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Speaker 11: But I think it might be a field thing for

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Speaker 11: Rent Carlisle where you probably prefer.

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Speaker 9: To end with that lineup, but you kind of.

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Speaker 7: So it's tonight more of a true center lineup then,

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Speaker 11: I do think you probably need a little more true center.

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Speaker 11: And I mean even then, looking back at the finals,

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Speaker 11: So if that isn't happening, yeah, I do think you

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Speaker 11: And I think that if anything is they're off and

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Speaker 7: Again, no McConnell. So the other bench minutes I threw

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Speaker 7: I gave Ben Shephard sixteen, Johnny Furfey probably his first

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Speaker 7: will go with Taylor Peter, the second round pick out

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Speaker 7: is not a point guard. Yeah, Rick Carlisle shared of

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Speaker 7: does he literally went up to Tayling Peter the other day.

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Speaker 7: He's like, hey man, you ever play point guard? Let mean,

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Speaker 7: can you imagine? I mean, this is the NBA. This

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Speaker 11: So it's a fourth grade reg ball. Want a championship

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Speaker 7: The day, can your sister who my.

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Speaker 9: Sister was like 'run our test?

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Speaker 7: She she had to.

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Speaker 7: You can go a long way if you're gonna play

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Speaker 7: some defense like that. I'll give Taylor Peter ten minutes.

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Speaker 11: Okay, I think I can get with that. I'm very

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Speaker 11: curious to see what Benig Maverins role looks like in

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Speaker 11: be more pacers like and move the ball and make

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Speaker 11: and then defenses, like you said, because of his size

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Speaker 11: and length, and I do think Matheren has like the

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Speaker 11: physical archetype to kind of, you know, be a fairly

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Speaker 11: good defender. But you know, if you're doing the blind

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Speaker 11: him do that, how much does he have at the

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Speaker 11: other end as well? So I'm very curious how all

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Speaker 11: this shakes out because you're having to sacrifice certain things

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Speaker 11: to sort of flip your I don't know your strengths

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Speaker 11: you know, thirty five minutes a night mark.

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Speaker 7: Let's give this audio again for those that missed it

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Speaker 7: earlier in the week. You did have a deadline for extensions.

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Speaker 11: We'll get more information out of this like, I don't

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Speaker 7: Don't hack, don't hack, read about crash glass, and hit

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Speaker 7: little different than how you rush other for sure quarterbacks,

439
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Speaker 7: but yeah, this should be an expanded role for him

440
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Speaker 7: and Jalen Jones at corner, you know, with him back

441
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Speaker 7: and then Tavarius Ward's got to miss three more games.

442
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Speaker 7: There are some names at corner that, Okay, we should

443
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Speaker 7: get these guys back, you know, maybe sometime in November,

444
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Speaker 7: but we should get them back at defensive end. There's

445
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Speaker 7: really not those guys, right, tuy Maloaw is probably the

446
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Speaker 7: closest to it, right, But you know, again, rookie all

447
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Speaker 7: of a sudden, having this huge second half of the season,

448
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Speaker 7: I don't know if that's totally fair to throw those

449
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Speaker 7: expectations on. What do you take from Jalen Jones chatting

450
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Speaker 7: with the media yesterday, This hamstring injury has been very

451
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Speaker 7: nagging for him all off season long. Back to practice

452
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Speaker 7: yesterday for the first time in over a month.

453
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Speaker 9: One he was very adamant about practicing.

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Speaker 11: That was before we even knew that he would, and

455
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Speaker 11: you know, through the question out there is like, I'm

456
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Speaker 11: definitely practicing, and like, okay, well that's a good sign.

457
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Speaker 9: And then he was talking about how.

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Speaker 11: Mentally tough it's been because he had the hamstring issue

459
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Speaker 11: pop up during training camp, missed a ton of time,

460
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Speaker 11: then fights his way back for the season opener, and

461
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Speaker 11: then gets hurt again for his game back, and he

462
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Speaker 11: was saying, yeah, I definitely shed some tears.

463
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Speaker 9: Those were his quotes about.

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Speaker 11: That, and just kind of navigating that for the first

465
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Speaker 11: time in his career, because if you look at his

466
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Speaker 11: NFL career has been very durable the first two years

467
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Speaker 11: and this year kind of an injury plague. Then then

468
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Speaker 11: he's kind of in a unique spot where he would

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Speaker 11: really go there, Kevin, I know me And you kind

470
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Speaker 11: of pressed them on it, like, hey, do you think

471
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Speaker 11: you could you know.

472
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Speaker 9: Boost his defense and more or less.

473
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Speaker 11: Earn your starting job back, and he was just like, oh,

474
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Speaker 11: I want to just help the team. It was very

475
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Speaker 11: business like. But I do think, you know, cut the

476
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Speaker 11: cameras off, give him some truth.

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Speaker 9: Serum.

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Speaker 11: He's probably thinking, hey, I want to be back healthy,

479
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Speaker 11: but b I want to show that you guys need

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Speaker 11: me as they do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I probably would consider myself like a member

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Speaker 7: of the Jalen Jones fan club, like I think he's

483
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Speaker 7: been a quality corner in the NFL.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but you know, like you said, though, the narrative

485
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Speaker 11: is are you a lou And Rumo?

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Speaker 7: Right? Right?

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Speaker 9: But I'm like, man looking at some of these other guys.

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Speaker 4: That are you not?

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Speaker 7: Like August twenty third, if you asked me, hey, what

490
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Speaker 7: do you think about Jalen Jones right now? I would

491
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Speaker 7: have said to you, I worry about him being a

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Speaker 7: Louis Rumo guy, right, not being a lou Aromo, right,

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Speaker 7: I guess is how I should say that. And at

494
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Speaker 7: the time, Xavier Howard was brought off the couch and

495
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Speaker 7: Jalen Jones just all of a sudden went to the bench. Now, well,

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Speaker 7: I think Blu's got no choice. Whenever Jalen Jones is healthy,

497
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Speaker 7: you have to give him an opportunity. And if Jalen

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Speaker 7: can play like you did in the first two seasons.

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Speaker 7: Then I do think he can help put a little

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Speaker 7: band aid over that situation right now. So, uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: there's part of me that thinks, okay, you know, maybe

502
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Speaker 7: this is a good opportunity for this opponent, Jalen Jones,

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Speaker 7: get a little run in the fourth quarter. And then

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Speaker 7: also part of me says, well to a various ward's

505
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Speaker 7: going to be out two more weeks. You know, maybe

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Speaker 7: you look at and say, hey, what about dk Metcalf

507
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Speaker 7: next week? What about Drake London in a couple of weeks?

508
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Speaker 7: You know, do you hold off a little bit longer?

509
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Speaker 7: But nonetheless, the fact that Jalen Jones is back to

510
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Speaker 7: practice good news for the Colts in their cornerback situation.

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Speaker 7: All right, coming up in about ten minutes, Jack Doyle

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Speaker 7: going to join us Thad Mada at eight point thirty

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Speaker 7: Pacers conversation be very centric coming up in the nine

514
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Speaker 7: o'clock hour, Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, Mark Dyton. Here it

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Speaker 7: is opening night Pacers and thunder here you can hear

516
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Speaker 7: it right here on the fans seven thirty tip and

517
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Speaker 7: thank you for starting your morning with US ninety three

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Speaker 7: five one oh seven five The Pride of the East Side,

519
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Speaker 7: former Pacer ball boy, which I think it's important to

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Speaker 7: reference that on a night like tonight. He joins us

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Speaker 7: here in the eight o'clock hour, Jack Doyle, good morning

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Speaker 7: to you, sir.

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Speaker 6: How are you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good morning guys. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 7: Your Your favorite memory as a ball boy?

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Speaker 4: Ooh, there're some good ones. I remember getting I wore

527
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Speaker 4: like a Ragley pair of shoes one day as a

528
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Speaker 4: ball boy, and Jamison Brewer gave me a new pair

529
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Speaker 4: of shoes, a new pair of basketball shoes.

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Speaker 7: Shout out Jamison Brewer.

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Speaker 4: Jamison Brewer. They on the side of them in sharpie

532
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Speaker 4: it said a town, and I remember rocking the shoes

533
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Speaker 4: all around town. But yeah, there's a ton of great memories.

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Speaker 4: I remember Reggie working Reggie's last regular season game. That

535
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Speaker 4: was obviously really cool. So yeah, really cool for a

536
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Speaker 4: kid who was obviously a He's Pacer fan.

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Speaker 9: So Jack, I like to ask football players this all

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Speaker 9: the time.

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Speaker 11: When did you know, Okay, the basketball court ain't my thing,

540
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Speaker 11: Probably should go to the grid iron.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Basketball is definitely my first love,

542
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Speaker 4: you know, and then going into high school, you know,

543
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Speaker 4: kind of got sucked into the Cathedral, Football World, and

544
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Speaker 4: and and just kind of stuck with football. There's never

545
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Speaker 4: really an exact point where you know, I thought, you know, football,

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Speaker 4: you know, that was gonna be my future, my true future.

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Speaker 4: So probably more like college. But yeah, you know, you know,

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Speaker 4: my advice to kids now is, you know, just just

549
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Speaker 4: play as many sports, play as many sports you can

550
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Speaker 4: for as long as you can, right because you know

551
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Speaker 4: it goes fast, and and enjoy it while you're in it.

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Speaker 7: Is there any more debate than an NFL locker room

553
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Speaker 7: than who is the best basketball player?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 4: It's talked about constantly, constantly, and then you and then

556
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Speaker 4: they always go after like you know, there's always you know,

557
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Speaker 4: obviously the Colts and we have Moley Cox and and

558
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Speaker 4: he's the former basketball player, so every everyone's always going

559
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Speaker 4: right at him, right, so you know, they they're always

560
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Speaker 4: challenging Mo and being like, hey, I could take you,

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Speaker 4: you know. And and now there's basketball hoops up. I

562
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Speaker 4: think they got one in the indoor and probably one

563
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Speaker 4: in the team meeting room. But yeah, basketball is debated

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Speaker 4: constantly in the locker room.

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Speaker 7: That is the voice of Jack Doyle. He's with us

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Speaker 7: here on the pay list.

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Speaker 9: The picture of Jack Doyle guard would be I think Jack.

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Speaker 7: Doyle could give the pace for some some minutes tonight.

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Speaker 7: That's that's just me. I mean center position right now,

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Speaker 7: it's a bit dire, so you know, we could we

571
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Speaker 7: could use him maybe to pick up some fouls if

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Speaker 7: nothing else. On Chet and Isaiah Hartenstein Jack. I asked

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Speaker 7: this to Shane Stiken yesterday, like offensively to me, it's

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's historic, it's surgical, it's clinical. Like to Shane,

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Speaker 7: I said, Okay, of all the numbers, of all the

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Speaker 7: things you've witnessed offensively, what is the most impressive element,

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Speaker 7: And I'll ask that to you of everything you have

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Speaker 7: observed offensively when you watch that side of the ball

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Speaker 7: right now, the most impressive element to it is what.

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Speaker 4: The efficiency on first and second down? You know, it

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Speaker 4: just doesn't feel like we're in a third and long

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Speaker 4: really ever, and when we have been, we've converted. So

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Speaker 4: I've just been so impressed with with the lack of

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Speaker 4: negative plays and you know, maybe penlodies were up a

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Speaker 4: little bit early in the season and that kind of

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Speaker 4: you know, that's kind of just getting back into the

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Speaker 4: swing of the season. I feel like too, the refs

588
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Speaker 4: the refs included in that. But yeah, just the the

589
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Speaker 4: efficiency of this offense. And I mean guys, I mean, Kevin,

590
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Speaker 4: guys are running wide open. It's just crazy to see.

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Speaker 4: And I think Shane's just you know, I kind of

592
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Speaker 4: mentioned it, you know, you said, you know, we're doing

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Speaker 4: the doing the podcast with Matt Taylor. I just feel

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Speaker 4: like Shane's on fire as a play caller right now,

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Speaker 4: you know. He it seems like he knows what the

596
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Speaker 4: defense is doing, you know, before the play even starts,

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Speaker 4: and him and Daniel are so connected and the way

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Speaker 4: they're trying to attack a defense. It's just I mean,

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Speaker 4: I just as a fan, it's so fun to watch

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Speaker 4: this offense right now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I personally.

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Speaker 11: Think that Shane and Daniel are like AI components and

603
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Speaker 11: they just work well together.

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Speaker 9: I don't think they're real people. I think they're kind

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Speaker 9: of just like robots.

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Speaker 11: They go plug in and and download the new players

607
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Speaker 11: next week and to go out there and execute.

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Speaker 9: That's why it looks like this so far. But Jack,

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Speaker 9: and more.

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Speaker 11: Serious note, how much do you think the arrival of

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Speaker 11: Tyler Warren has changed the math when it comes to

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Speaker 11: this offense? Because, as you've seen, probably an understand more

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Speaker 11: than anybody else. The way they move him around is

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Speaker 11: very unique, and it seems like other teams can't quite

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Speaker 11: contain him because of the versatility.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the versatility is huge. And that's a you know,

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Speaker 4: that's a play caller's dream is to have a tight

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Speaker 4: end that can that can do everything. And then you

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Speaker 4: combine that with Shane and and in the mind he

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Speaker 4: has and the way he sets up an offense, and

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Speaker 4: and always attacking and moving guys in different spots. And

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Speaker 4: you know, in the NFL, everyone runs the same concepts, right,

623
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Speaker 4: Everyone gets to the same spots and runs the same place.

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Speaker 4: But it's how you you know, it's how you you know,

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Speaker 4: put them in formation and the prestat motions and the

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Speaker 4: and hiding guys and and and the way you attack

627
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Speaker 4: can can look different, but you know, it's all guys

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Speaker 4: getting in the same spots. So when you have a

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Speaker 4: guy like Tyler Warren who can just literally do everything,

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Speaker 4: you know, you put him in the backfield and do

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Speaker 4: an I field blocks and then he's in the backfield

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Speaker 4: at fullback and you're sneaking him out on over routes

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Speaker 4: and corner routes. I mean, like I said, that's a

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Speaker 4: play callers dream. So I know Shane's just just loving,

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Speaker 4: you know, having Tyler on this team.

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Speaker 7: He is mister Doyle to those at Saint Pius A

637
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Speaker 7: couple days a week as a pe teacher. He's with

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Speaker 7: us here on the Payloss Lickers hotline. That would be

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Speaker 7: Jack Doyle. And again the Jack Doyle Podcast with Matt

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Speaker 7: Taylor has been a great listen here in the twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty five season, Jack, I apologize. I do think it's

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Speaker 7: maybe a hair unfair when you're not necessarily in the building.

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Speaker 7: But you know, again, your observations I definitely holding high regard.

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Speaker 7: When you look at twenty nineteen, you guys got off

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Speaker 7: to a really good start that season. From a record standpoint,

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Speaker 7: I want to say, it was five and two, and

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Speaker 7: now you look at this year at six and one. Again,

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Speaker 7: I know you're not in the six and one locker room,

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Speaker 7: but just outsiders view, how do you kind of view

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Speaker 7: what you guys were doing in twenty nine team, albeit

651
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Speaker 7: survive in some of those games one score wins, versus

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Speaker 7: what you've witnessed here in the six and one start.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the first thing comes to mind is, you know,

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Speaker 4: in nineteen they I don't know the scores of those

655
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Speaker 4: early games, but it felt like they were all tight

656
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Speaker 4: one score games. And the way that the Colts are

657
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: just dominating right now. You know, I just heard you

658
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 4: say the point differential, what was it ninety six or

659
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Speaker 4: something like that. I mean, that's just that's just crazy.

660
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Speaker 4: That's just crazy that And there's no been no letdown,

661
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Speaker 4: you know, from week to week. You know, you think

662
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: of the Titans game earlier in the year. You know,

663
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Speaker 4: we came out rolling right away after a great win

664
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Speaker 4: against Denver. So just not seeing the letdown and and

665
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Speaker 4: a lot of guys you know, are still around from

666
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Speaker 4: that nineteen team or you know around from you know,

667
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Speaker 4: teams that kind of you know, maybe we didn't carry

668
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Speaker 4: the momentum from game to game and you know, you

669
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Speaker 4: kind of didn't know what we were going to get.

670
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Speaker 4: So I think the veteran leadership has been huge early

671
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Speaker 4: in this season and keeping guys focus and locked in,

672
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Speaker 4: you know, and taking it week by week.

673
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Speaker 11: So, Jack, your last year in the NFL was the

674
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Speaker 11: same year that Jonathan Taylor won the rushing title named

675
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Speaker 11: the first team All Pro. From that player to the

676
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Speaker 11: player you're seeing now, the difference is what.

677
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he was rolling at the end of

678
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Speaker 4: twenty one, and so I would honestly compare to what

679
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Speaker 4: he's doing right now early in this season to kind

680
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Speaker 4: of what he was at the end of twenty one.

681
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Speaker 4: I think the main difference is we probably have a

682
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 4: better passing game to go with that you know, will

683
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: go with right saying right now this season in the

684
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 4: way we're attacking teams because we're we're relying heavy on

685
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: Jonathan there and at the end of twenty one. But

686
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Speaker 4: you know what I've seen from Jonathan and the way

687
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 4: he you know, the details that he's you know, he's

688
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 4: practicing and putting in each and every day. You know,

689
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: I can think back to you know, when we played together.

690
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 4: He was always off to the side, catching extra passes

691
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 4: right and and always working on his hands. And then

692
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Speaker 4: you see the improvement he's had as you know, picking

693
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: up blitzes this year. I've noticed that early on, and

694
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: so yeah, he just he just continues to get better,

695
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 4: which is crazy because how good you know, how good

696
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: he was when he first showed up, and he's just

697
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: a high character guy and a great person. So it's

698
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: a lot of fun to see him rolling.

699
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Speaker 11: That's what's so crazy to me is I'm looking at him.

700
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 11: I'm like, man, how did you get better?

701
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 9: Seemingly?

702
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Speaker 11: Now, granted, like you said, the offense is better, but

703
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 11: you were already a first seam all pro.

704
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Speaker 9: That's nuts to me.

705
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Speaker 11: But then on top of that, I have to give

706
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Speaker 11: some credit and I know you would love this to

707
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 11: the offensive line. I feel like you know they're they

708
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 11: have been understated, which is probably a good thing. We

709
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 11: don't missing the offensive line. They're probably not messing up. Yeah,

710
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 11: same as well. They've been playing well. But uh, for

711
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Speaker 11: a guy who played alongside Quentin Nelson when you see

712
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Speaker 11: him do his thing, I guess as a teammate and

713
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 11: then also on like television, Now, what is that like

714
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Speaker 11: to be in the same realm or locker room as

715
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Speaker 11: a guy who is unique at that position.

716
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's special, man. I'm thinking of the block he

717
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: had on like the twenty yard run Jonathan had this

718
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 4: past week against the Chargers, and he, you know, reached

719
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Speaker 4: the shade, you know, a shade on the center and

720
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: cut him off and Jonathan goes right behind him and

721
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Speaker 4: goes untouched for twenty or whatever for a touchdown and

722
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Speaker 4: Quinton's just such a great leader too. I mean we

723
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: can talk about how he plays the guard position. You know,

724
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Speaker 4: he's a future Hall of Famer and all time great

725
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: and all that fun stuff, but the way he he

726
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: holds guys accountable. You know, you you don't want to

727
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: let Quinton down.

728
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Speaker 7: You know.

729
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Speaker 4: I remember back when we were playing together. You know,

730
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Speaker 4: I always got great joy out of like a Monday morning.

731
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Speaker 4: We'd be in there and Quinn come up to me

732
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Speaker 4: and be like, hey, on this play Jack. You know

733
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 4: that was an awesome block, and you know it made

734
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Speaker 4: me feel good. You know, he's highlighting you know, when

735
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: when when I did when I did a good job

736
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Speaker 4: in the run game or something like that. So he's

737
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Speaker 4: just a great leader. Obviously a great player man, and

738
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Speaker 4: he just you know, my f one of another. You know,

739
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 4: great thing about Quinton He's always the first guy to

740
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 4: go help up Jonathan too. You know. I always used

741
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: to try and raise him to the running back and

742
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: try and beat him there and be the first guy

743
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: to help up the back or the receiver whoever you

744
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: just got tackled. But he's always the first guy there.

745
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 4: It's like, man, how are you everywhere? And then still blocking,

746
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: you know, a premier defensive tackle. It's just is this crazy?

747
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: What he does? You know? Play and play out?

748
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Speaker 7: That's a holy spirit ram right there on the Payloft

749
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Speaker 7: Stickers hotline, Jack Doyle with us here on this Thursday morning, Jack,

750
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Speaker 7: last one for me, and I really enjoyed you sharing

751
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 7: this story a few weeks ago, you know, on your

752
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 7: podcast with Matt Taylor, when the Cults are getting ready

753
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 7: to play Arizona, looked like Jacoby Brissett was going to

754
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Speaker 7: be the starter. Obviously, you and Jacoby plenty of history together,

755
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 7: I think, very close. And you told the story about

756
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 7: Jacoby's first start as a cult just to refresh everybody's memories.

757
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 7: Twenty seventeen, Scott Tolzene starts that first game, Jacoby had

758
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 7: just gotten traded here. It doesn't go well. Colts start Berseett.

759
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 7: Then that second week and you said there was a

760
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Speaker 7: moment in the huddle where you know, maybe the full

761
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 7: playbook wasn't fully known yet by Jacoby, and he just

762
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 7: looked at you and told you what what are you

763
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 7: running here?

764
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Speaker 4: Yeah? That was awesome, man. So it was fun to

765
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: think of that because you know Jacoby come, you know,

766
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: the Cardinals are back for the first time in eight years,

767
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 4: right back to Lucas Oil, and the last time they

768
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 4: were here, Jacoby was starting for the Colts in his

769
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 4: first game. But yeah, that's one of my you know,

770
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: early memories. And in that that game, you know, we

771
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: played back in twenty seventeen and Jacoby's first start, I

772
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: was kind of, you know, running a middle read, so

773
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Speaker 4: you know, I had a you know, a steam bender

774
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 4: route if it was too high, and then if it

775
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 4: was one high. I was running a basic which is

776
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 4: like an en route at ten to twelve yard en route.

777
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: And we're in the huddle and Jacoby called the play.

778
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 4: Maybe we were like in a TV timeout or something,

779
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 4: and I remember him looking at me and be like, hey,

780
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: what are you running here? And I, you know, I

781
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: told him when I was running and he was, and

782
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: you know, when we kind of break the huddle, I'm like, man,

783
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: I go to line like I'm getting the ball, Like

784
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: he has no idea what else is going on in

785
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 4: this play? So I better be ready and I've better

786
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: get open, and we ended up hitting it for a

787
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: first down. So uh so, yeah, it was a lot

788
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: of fun, and I you know, I love Jacoby. I

789
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: was you know, I kind of mentioned this on the podcast,

790
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 4: like you said, Kevin, I was. Uh, I was a

791
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 4: little conflicted watching that last drive to be honest, when

792
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: the Cardinals were kind of driving, because Jacoby is one

793
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 4: of my best friends, and uh, you know, I obviously

794
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 4: want him to do well. But I was glad he

795
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 4: played well and the Coles got the win. But uh,

796
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: but yeah, Jacoby is a man.

797
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a hell of a effort. Sound like

798
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 7: you played pretty well last week as well. All right,

799
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 7: Jack Doyle, pe teacher, What are we are? We three

800
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 7: days a week at Saint Pis Is that correct?

801
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 4: Right now? To to Monday Friday, having a lot of fun.

802
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 4: You know, we're on volleyball now, so you know, Cyo

803
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: volleyball season for the girls just started, so they're super

804
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 4: fired up. I'm still trying to figure out how to

805
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 4: set these nets up. Any advice getting the yet, get

806
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: him tight. And then the kids are just you know,

807
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 4: they're purposely hitting the ball into the net. Yeah, just

808
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 4: hitting this heart and I'm just like, don't touch the net,

809
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: you know, don't touch the net or it's a lap,

810
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 4: you know. So so that's you know, that's the life

811
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: of a pe teacher right now. But no, I'm I'm

812
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 4: kind of joking. I'm having a ton of fun. You know,

813
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 4: they're a great group of kids. You know, I think

814
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 4: they're enjoying having me in class. So yeah, we got

815
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 4: roller skating coming up next, So wish me luck, you know,

816
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: hopefully I don't yeah, hopefully I don't break or wrist

817
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: or anything like that.

818
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 7: But picture and watching like ESPN Classic back in the

819
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 7: day and all of a sudden, the Oat Show, roller

820
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 7: Derbyond and they're just elbowing each other over the over

821
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 7: the railing. Here your favorite either sport that you've taught

822
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 7: or activity so far in the gym.

823
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Speaker 4: You know, I really enjoyed handball. We just we did handball.

824
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 4: So handball, if you know, you can't envision it, it's

825
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 4: a you know, it's basically, you know basketball with soccer.

826
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: You know, you use a kind of small ball that's bouncy,

827
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 4: and you can dribble, and it's a team sport and

828
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 4: you're trying to throw the ball in the net. But

829
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: if you can envision a basketball court, you can't. You

830
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 4: have to shoot from like the three point line and

831
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 4: the nets, you know, kind of at the baseline under

832
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 4: the hoop and you have a goalie and all that

833
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: fun stuff. And yeah, I actually had a teacher at

834
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: Western Kentucky, you know, when I was getting my physical

835
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 4: education degree who played for Spain's Olympic team in handball.

836
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: So I learned a lot about handball through him. So

837
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: it was fun to kind of pass that down to

838
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: the kids, and I think the kids enjoyed the game.

839
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 7: It's like water polo on land. I feel like, yeah, yeah.

840
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a good way to explain it, too good.

841
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, every time I watch water the Olympics, I just

842
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,959
Speaker 7: am reminded about how un athletic I am, how.

843
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 4: Much I can't swim.

844
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, how I don't know how that how

845
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 7: they do that? So true. I'm just like, can I

846
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 7: just have a beer at the side of the pool.

847
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 7: The great Jack Dough It's been an awesome listen, Jack,

848
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 7: great work with you and Matt Taylor. Usually every Tuesday

849
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 7: that thing posts up and it's been a fun listen.

850
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 7: So I appreciate you doing that for all of us,

851
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 7: and thanks for hopping on today.

852
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 6: Man.

853
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate you guys. Enjoy listening to you. Guys.

854
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 4: You guys do a great job.

855
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 7: Let's head of the Palistickers hotline right now and says

856
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 7: good morning to Scott Agnes like that, Scott, welcome to

857
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Speaker 7: the NBA Beat.

858
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 10: Every day is unpredictable, you got it, I mean unbelievable.

859
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 7: I know you're probably just getting this news just like

860
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 7: we are. And details unfortunately are still a little bit vague,

861
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 7: but just your overall thoughts on these headlines.

862
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, what are we doing?

863
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 10: Like, come on, guys, like you've made millions in a

864
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 10: great league like the NBA, and yeah, we don't know

865
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 10: too much more well beyond that, but when you accept

866
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 10: money from gambling, you also accept the consequences and in

867
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Speaker 10: these cases that might be that that way, And I mean,

868
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 10: Adam Silber, one of the main questions he's asked about

869
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 10: during all interviews is gambling, the impact, the.

870
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 6: Concerns and every day.

871
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 10: I'm sure it's something they have to talk about at

872
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 10: the headquarters of New York City.

873
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 11: Scott, I need you to, you know, put out a

874
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 11: statement on behalf of all Beat writers when it comes

875
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 11: to covering NBA team and say, hey, I don't actually

876
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 11: want to go cover the mafia as well, So let's.

877
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 9: Just make sure that all the Pacers on the up

878
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 9: and up there.

879
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: Breaking news from ninety three five and one oh seven

880
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: to five.

881
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 12: The fan Damon Jones of the NBA has also been

882
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 12: arrested with the FBI in connection with charges announced today.

883
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 12: No indication he's tied the bet on games, but according

884
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 12: to people familiar with the matter, he has also been arrested.

885
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 7: Damon Jones like the old school basket.

886
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 8: Damon Jones, former NBA player.

887
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, coach.

888
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 14: I think he coached the Cavaliers for a little while there,

889
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 14: Like like I'm picturing shooter Damon Jones, Right, that's a

890
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 14: good shoot.

891
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 7: Okay, gosh, unbelievable. Well, at this point now, I guess

892
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 7: we just sit here and hope that nobody associated the

893
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 7: Pacers are involved with this.

894
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 9: I don't want Scott to work like that.

895
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 7: They cover the game really really j Yeah, let's can.

896
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 6: We talk about that. Yeah, we got to celebrate the basketball.

897
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, Scott. I feel like at this point, every

898
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 7: NBA team has played besides the Pacers tonight, seven thirty

899
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 7: inside of game bridge Field House, point Guard Center? Which

900
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 7: one you're more careious about tonight?

901
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 10: I'm more so center, just because this could be something

902
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 10: that they are concerned and dealing with all season long.

903
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 10: Whereas point guard, I think it's kind of just can

904
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 10: you get to the next month, and in the meantime,

905
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 10: you can have fill ins and guys can play out

906
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 10: of position, but maybe, like look, center, you got guys

907
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 10: that have never been full time starting centers here in

908
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 10: the NBA, two guys coming off significant injuries, and nobody

909
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 10: really played confidently or solidified themselves.

910
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 6: Or did it well enough job of staying out of foul.

911
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 10: Trouble in the four preseason games that we were able

912
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 10: to see. And you look around and what was the

913
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 10: biggest takeaway, at least for me opening night was size, physicality,

914
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 10: aggression that was both played by the players and allowed

915
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 10: by the officiating. And if that's the case, that's something

916
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 10: where the Pacers obviously will have to adapt.

917
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 7: Can you survive I don't want to say eighty two nights,

918
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 7: but can you survive a majority of your nights with

919
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 7: Obi topping as the five man?

920
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 10: That's the probably the question they're having to discuss in

921
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 10: the coaching room throughout this week is I think that

922
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 10: would work in Spurs. I just don't know if it

923
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 10: can be there full time just giving the different matchups

924
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 10: and the size discrepancy right there against Houston or perhaps

925
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 10: even against an OKAC like we'll see tonight.

926
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 6: With with some of the size that they have.

927
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 10: Now, I'm a big proponent of playing your best group,

928
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 10: playing the bunch that you are most confident in, rather

929
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 10: than adapting to your opponent all the time, right, depending

930
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 10: on the oponent.

931
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 6: But I think that's that might be the case for

932
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 6: this Pacers team this season is.

933
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 10: Roll a different center out depending on who's out there

934
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 10: and leaning into it.

935
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 6: But is it sustainable all season long? I'm just not

936
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 6: seeing it.

937
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 11: So, Scott, when I look at this roster, obviously, you

938
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 11: know who the core four is. In one of those

939
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 11: core four, Bitt Matherin, is I think in a more

940
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 11: unique situation than the other three, just because of this

941
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 11: contract situation. So what in your mind would define a

942
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 11: successful Bentig Matherin season and can that be paired with

943
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 11: a successful Pacers season?

944
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, That's that's been the whole thing all along, right,

945
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 10: is do his skill does his skill set in him

946
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 10: at his best match and empower the Pacers to be

947
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 10: at their best. I think I think what a very

948
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 10: successful season for him would be to be one of

949
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 10: the top would to finish the season in the starting lineup,

950
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 10: which mean it worked out, it would probably be a

951
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 10: top three score on the roster. And have all of

952
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 10: us been like man, He really locked in defensively, took

953
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 10: ownership at that end of the floor, took pride on

954
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 10: that end of the floor, and he has us wanting

955
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 10: to see more out there. And so he's still very young.

956
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 10: He's being asked to do very different things that he

957
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 10: has in the past.

958
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 6: It's just can he do it within the flow of

959
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 6: the offense.

960
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 10: And as much as they want to play fast and

961
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 10: use that as their weapon against all these teams, you.

962
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 6: Don't want the ball to get stuffed.

963
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 10: Do you want to make that half second decision like

964
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 10: so many of the coaching staff has talked about.

965
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 11: And Scott is that Do you think that's a bit

966
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 11: counterintuitive to a degree because you don't have Halliburton. Because

967
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 11: part of me, I'm not gonna lie if this offense

968
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 11: gets a little stagnant. I want to be able to

969
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 11: hit the Maverick will get a bucket button.

970
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 5: Now.

971
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 11: I think they could come in handy this season considering

972
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 11: that you're not going to be operating at your highest

973
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 11: offensive output.

974
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 10: Totally agree there, Yeah, absolutely, there'll be times, especially as

975
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 10: you know the grind of the NBA season, the third

976
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 10: game and four nights and all right, so who's got

977
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 10: the energy?

978
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 6: Oh it's mad? All right, Let's just keep feeding.

979
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 10: Him like we saw in that one preseason game where

980
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 10: he has what like twenty one points in the first half. Like,

981
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 10: you don't want they nix his superpower, but you also

982
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 10: would like to maximize it within the flow of the

983
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 10: offense for sure. So I think to your point, I

984
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 10: think there can be good balance.

985
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: There is.

986
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 6: You can encourage this one thing.

987
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 10: But look if if the matchup is good or the

988
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 10: way in which the opponent's defending them, hey, let's lean

989
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 10: into that. I think that's one thing about this coaching stuff,

990
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 10: as well as the adaptability and how they don't get

991
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 10: pigeonholed into any one thing, and they're not calling a

992
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 10: lot of plays. I think along the same lines as

993
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 10: they might have to call more plays, may have to

994
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 10: call situations to get them more organized into flow of

995
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 10: things when you don't have your franchise point guard able to.

996
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 6: Do that for you.

997
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 7: Is it too early to make a joke about this?

998
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 7: Johncy Billups gambling thing.

999
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 8: Leave Scott out?

1000
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I know, I probab should wait till Scott

1001
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 7: was off the line. I'm simply relaying a message here,

1002
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 7: this from Wes on our text line. I think we're

1003
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 7: all familiar with you know, Detroit Piston's PA announcers, you

1004
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 7: know Detroit basketball. Yeah, I feel like I have that

1005
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 7: ingrained in my head from those Pistons teams. Didn't They

1006
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 7: often say Chauncey blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

1007
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 7: But Billups, wasn't that also kind of a kind of

1008
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 7: a go to phrase. How about a Chauncey blah blah

1009
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 7: blah blah blah busted?

1010
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 9: Oh lord nothing boom No, not feeling that one, brother, I.

1011
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 6: Think it's well played. It's just the sensitivity of the moment.

1012
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 7: Oh come on, Yeah, it's the Pistons man. I thought

1013
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 7: that would give Mark Dykon to crack a smile. Gee.

1014
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 12: His bigger issues right now. He's got the mafia on

1015
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 12: his tail. I think he's ducking the cover.

1016
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 7: Do you answer the door for the FBI or the mafia.

1017
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 7: I'd probably vote for the latter, honestly, Uh.

1018
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 12: It's gonna the mafia look like in twenty twenty five.

1019
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 12: By the way, you don't know.

1020
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 7: I love how James clarified earlier He's not a part

1021
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 7: of the mafia.

1022
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 11: Be my strong boldie on door DA running late, trying

1023
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 11: to make sure you know we get everything you know

1024
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 11: on up and up.

1025
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 7: James got his PACER's bucket head on record.

1026
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 11: Make us You're like, hey, anything I've done, you know,

1027
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 11: if I downloaded music from lotwire, I apologize.

1028
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 7: How many YouTube MP three converters have I done in

1029
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 7: my day? Scott will end with this and Mark's been

1030
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 7: playing these montages, you know, kind of all morning long

1031
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 7: from last year's run. If I removed remove Halliburton from it,

1032
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 7: one memory for you from last year's run would be

1033
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 7: what you can't pick Halliburton good or bad?

1034
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 6: Yeah? To me, I come back to the city KB,

1035
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 6: It's my hometown.

1036
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 10: It's the way in which this team or sorry, this

1037
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 10: city rallied around this team.

1038
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 6: How much joy it gave.

1039
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 10: How many times on walks around downtown Kevin, I was

1040
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 10: walking and seeing just Pacer flags hung.

1041
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 6: Up like that took me back to childhood.

1042
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 10: Where where this was not just a you know, happy

1043
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 10: to be here, This was not just hey as it

1044
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 10: may yet it's time for the Indianapolis five hundred. So

1045
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 10: for me, it was the way in which this team

1046
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 10: represented themselves on the court, and then as much so,

1047
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 10: how much the fans rallied behind that message and became

1048
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 10: believers in a group that, without the belief in themselves,

1049
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 10: would not have gotten as fart as they did.

1050
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's really really well said. You know,

1051
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 7: I remember saying it after watching Game seven unfold. Kind

1052
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 7: of had a college high school feel to it, and

1053
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 7: how connected I think so many fans felt towards the Pacers.

1054
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 7: So get it started again tonight again seven thirty. Tip

1055
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 7: you want to be in your seats though, Honor Nancy

1056
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 7: Leonard also have the unveiling of the Eastern Conference championship banner.

1057
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 7: You want to make sure you're in your seats for that.

1058
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 7: Well before seven thirty, Scott Agnes field House files his

1059
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 7: coverage is there, Scott, A lot to get to this morning.

1060
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 7: Appreciate you being a good sport Absolutely happy New year

1061
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 7: you guys. Well it's been a hell of a Thursday morning,

1062
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 7: I must say. Mark Dyiton excellent per usual. Queued up

1063
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 7: the Goodfellow soundtrack. I thought that was appropriate on this Thursday.

1064
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 7: I love it, Yes, I love very very good. As

1065
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 7: we have a gambling probe involving a couple of NBA

1066
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 7: individuals and Terry Rogier and Chauncey Billups separate the Billups won.

1067
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 7: And I say this in all seriousness about the headline

1068
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 7: involves a poker whatever, a poker game or probably plural

1069
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,479
Speaker 7: games with the mafia right now.

1070
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 2: Listen, don't be surprised. And again we don't know anything yet.

1071
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 2: Presser's at ten. Don't be surprised if that's Russian mafia,

1072
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 2: because those dudes have been running poker and gambling rings

1073
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: around this country for years. Most high profile example if

1074
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: you remember that movie from about twenty years ago with

1075
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: Matt Damon Rounders, Oh iconic movie Teddy KGB running the

1076
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: poker ring right paid that man his MANI like, I

1077
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: don't know, Maybe it is americanized, you know, standard Italian mafia.

1078
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 7: Could be.

1079
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: We don't know yet, but don't be shocked if it's

1080
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: Russian mafia. But I will say this is if Scott

1081
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: Foster is a part of this by Parlay Hiss, I'm

1082
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: one Scott Foster away from cashing that.

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Speaker 14: Fo you just for probably all of like NBA Gambling

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Speaker 14: Twitter right in Texas earlier the show Ladies, by the way,

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Speaker 14: the voice of Jason Hammer.

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Speaker 7: I think everyone knows joins us every nine third or

1087
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 7: every Thursday at nine thirty here in football season. And

1088
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 7: we do have some cheers ing to do after some

1089
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 7: wins last week. But Mark has had these great montages

1090
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 7: for the Pacers as they get their season started tonight.

1091
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 7: And I mean we're talking awesome highlights. And the first

1092
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 7: response we got on the text line early this morning

1093
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 7: was Scott Foster cost us a championship. Like the there

1094
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 7: we are four months removed, these great highlights of Halliburton

1095
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 7: and Nei Smith and topping and this and that. In

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Speaker 7: the first one is yeah, Scott Foster the game four

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00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 7: push off from from sglieve the baseline push off there.

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00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 2: They don't get the nickname of the fixer to guys

1099
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: that are calling a fair game. Right even at Home Improvement,

1100
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: nobody called Tim Allen the fixer, and his job was

1101
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 2: to fix things.

1102
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 8: So I'm just.

1103
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 2: Saying I'm one Scott Foster away from cashing that four

1104
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,479
Speaker 2: leg FBI parlay today.

1105
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 7: Let's go. We have a ton to get to with you, Hammer,

1106
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 7: and you are ready to go here before we get

1107
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 7: to your bets that we like and legal betting by

1108
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 7: the way, here first.

1109
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 2: Chauncey Billups Lock of the Night coming up next, brought

1110
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 2: to you by.

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00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: And we'll do.

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00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 7: I get tonight seven thirty facers thunder, getting your seats early.

1113
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 7: Not only that Eastern Conference banner will be unveiled, but

1114
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 7: they will honor the great life of Nancy Leonard. And

1115
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 7: so you'll want to be uh in your in your

1116
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 7: butts in the seats for that, and then get your

1117
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 7: butts up because the standing ovation certainly for her. All right, Hammer,

1118
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 7: we got some cheers in to do because last week

1119
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 7: you told us Joe Flacco is the old man of

1120
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 7: the bachelor party. That hit easily, the over hit easily.

1121
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 7: We went too out of three last week. That's a

1122
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 7: winning weekend. Everybody cheers, sights in the cheers. Here, have

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00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 7: a little shot.

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00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: He's for you, double barrel, double oak woodford here, m smooth, excellent.

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00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 7: Oh boy, that is beautiful there that in a cake pop.

1126
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 7: What more do you need here on a Thursday morning

1127
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 7: to get the jews. It's not even nine thirty seven yet, Okay,

1128
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Speaker 7: So I know you like a little Pacers action. You

1129
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 7: also like a Colt's long shot. But let's stick with

1130
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 7: what Scott is here Thursday Night football tonight. I actually

1131
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 7: like this matchup Chargers Vikings. Obviously long travel here from

1132
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 7: Minnesota at Carson Wentz still there. I believe a three

1133
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 7: point underdog as they hit the road, so tailor of

1134
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 7: the tape here.

1135
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: Both teams had some pretty bad efforts last week, but

1136
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: one team's at home, one team has a better quarterback,

1137
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: and it's a field goal or less. I'm trying not

1138
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 2: to overthink this too much, but I'm on the Chargers

1139
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: tonight and we're gonna lay the three.

1140
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 7: Joe alt back. By the way, it sounds like the

1141
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 7: Chargers stud tackle.

1142
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: Which is going to be huge, and I just feel

1143
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 2: like the Chargers are in a spot here. I trust

1144
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: Jim Harball to get this group back with Soda squad

1145
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: going on the road, riding the Carson Wentz experience, leaning

1146
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 2: toward the under. But the official play in this one

1147
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: is we're going to lay the three. We're taking the

1148
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: Chargers at home. If I'm going to play it, I'm

1149
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 2: gonna lay it now. Prop bet wise, we're gonna go

1150
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: with Justin Herbert over zero point five interceptions. I think

1151
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: you can throw the ball on Minnesota. I think you

1152
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 2: can throw it on him, and I know Joe alts

1153
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: back and maybe they want to try to run the

1154
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: ball a little bit. But I still see pressure getting

1155
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: to Justin Herbert. And we saw it last week as

1156
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: Colts fans. You put a body in his face, he's

1157
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: prone to throw it to the other team. So we're

1158
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: going to ride the lightning over zero point five interceptions

1159
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: with Justin Herbert and then tonight Keenan Allen over five

1160
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 2: point five receptions. Like you get plus money.

1161
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Speaker 9: I like this.

1162
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: That's a plus money bet over five and a half receptions.

1163
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: Feels like a little connection may have been started last

1164
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: week and maybe that's the safety valve for Justin Herbert tonight.

1165
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1166
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 11: I so like we saw a ton of little signs,

1167
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 11: least when I was out in LA for the Charges

1168
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 11: gaming against the Colts with the third and Keenan signs.

1169
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 9: So third down looking for Keenan Allen. Right, Yeah, And

1170
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 9: so basically we need.

1171
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 7: Herbert to throw it. I think tonight we want him

1172
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 7: to throw it successfully towards Keenan Allen, but then have

1173
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 7: one hiccup here. Okay, you and I mentioned this earlier

1174
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 7: in the show. You said a little boost got you

1175
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 7: those Pacers' odds to get into the bracket. Go ahead

1176
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 7: and cover that because I know you and I had

1177
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 7: that conversation earlier.

1178
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: So on Bette Rivers, one of the sites that I

1179
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: play on, I had a profit boost. So not everybody

1180
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: will have the same boost, but I had pacers to

1181
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: make a playoff series. Okay, So they could in theory

1182
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 2: be the tenth team in the play in bracket, but

1183
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: you would have to win your way into an actual series.

1184
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 7: I mean top six, no, no, no, go ahead, it

1185
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 7: could be top six.

1186
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: But if they get in that play in tournament as

1187
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: a nine or ten.

1188
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 7: What just saying long, if they end up one through eight, right.

1189
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: Right, you would have to win your way through to

1190
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: get to a series, understand.

1191
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 7: Okay.

1192
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: At the time I made my bet, it was plus

1193
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: two hundred. I think it's down to one fifty now,

1194
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: but I had the profit boost which put it over three.

1195
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 9: I like that though.

1196
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 11: I mean, looking at how East wide open the East

1197
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 11: is in knowing how hard the Pacers play, I mean,

1198
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 11: if you can figure it out, it's center, it's a

1199
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Speaker 11: little bit, you might be able to sting into the

1200
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Speaker 11: playoffs with like a record that's under five hundred.

1201
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 9: Honestly, I just.

1202
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 7: Don't see them waving the white flag as quickly as

1203
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 7: other teams will. So yeah, this is very simple. I

1204
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 7: just plugged in right now plus one fifty two pacers

1205
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 7: to make the bracket right one through eight ten dollars

1206
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 7: bet gets you fifteen dollars and twenty cents.

1207
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: Vegas odds makers are saying the Pacers will not make

1208
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: the playoffs because it's plus money for them to make it.

1209
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: But if you have a boost of any kind, you

1210
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: can throw it on that one and if they get

1211
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: through the playing round or one through six, your toes

1212
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: are tapping here.

1213
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I could totally see them getting in

1214
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 11: at like forty and forty two or forty four or

1215
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 11: something like that.

1216
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 7: Right again, Jason Hammer with this here, Hammer and Nigel.

1217
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 7: You hear him every afternoon over on our sister station

1218
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 7: WIBC Degenerates, Next Dole or a couple gambling podcasts he's

1219
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 7: got each week. Here. Is there anything more pacers you like?

1220
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 7: Or should we transition to this Colts long shot?

1221
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: Let's do a Pacers bet tonight's okay, first made three

1222
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: pointer by a Pacer tonight, first made three pointer? You

1223
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: can get Benedict Matherin at plus two ninety five. I

1224
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: want contract year, Benedict Matherin. I got a feeling if

1225
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: the balls in his hands, it's going up. And all

1226
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: I want is an opportunity here.

1227
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, because neon green light looks like a highlighter party

1228
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 7: in college, right, So yes, And this is just for

1229
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 7: the Pacers first made three pointer.

1230
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 2: Nie Smith is the favorite, and then it's Matherin, Siakam,

1231
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: Nimhart and Jackson. But there's not a lot of difference

1232
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 2: between those folks. I think Matherin at plus two ninety

1233
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: five feels right.

1234
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 7: I can get behind that. And again, he's never seen

1235
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 7: a shot that he doesn't like. There on that, okay?

1236
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 7: And then where are we at from a Colts? And

1237
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 7: plus two ninety five is pretty good juice on that?

1238
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 7: Where are we at from a Colt's long shot? Because

1239
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 7: do you are you a philosophical never touch a fourteen

1240
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 7: point spread? Do you have any belief in that? Like

1241
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 7: a two touchdown spread either way in the NFL? Because

1242
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 7: it's rare.

1243
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: See this usually if I find a home divisional dog

1244
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: in the NFL, I'll hitch my wagon, but here you've

1245
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: got a very heavy home divisional favorite. Fourteen feels like

1246
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: a lot. Don't know if I want to touch that

1247
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: one because that just reeks of a backdoor cover. I

1248
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: can see the Cults being up by twenty one in

1249
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and then it becomes rightly time or

1250
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: something happens and you get that garbage time touchdown. Cam

1251
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: Woarred tries to be here right that beats you. But

1252
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: if you want to get nuts, Okay, we're playing with

1253
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: some profits this week because we had a good week

1254
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: last week. If you want to get nuts, Jonathan Taylor

1255
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:50,959
Speaker 2: three touchdowns at plus eight hundred now, the Titans can't

1256
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: stop the run.

1257
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 9: I think they're.

1258
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 2: Second to last in the league in defending the run

1259
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: right now. And three games this year, and it's not

1260
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: like the Colts have played a full season. Three times

1261
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: already this year, Jonathan Taylor's had three touchdowns in a game.

1262
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: The odds are against you. It's certainly not a lock,

1263
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: but I think plus eight hundred for Jonathan Taylor three touchdowns,

1264
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: I think it's worth taking a look at boys.

1265
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 11: You know what, I actually kind of agree with that

1266
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 11: because I think I threw this out out there the

1267
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 11: other week. He've got five games in his career with

1268
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 11: three or more rushing touchdowns, and three of them have

1269
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 11: happened this year. Right, For five seasons, it was two

1270
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 11: this year three.

1271
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 7: And that juice on that again, just for our people

1272
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 7: out there that are not you know, maybe as in

1273
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 7: tune to the plus and the minuses, that would be

1274
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 7: ten dollars to win eighty. So that is a very

1275
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 7: healthy return on investment there if Jonathan Taylor gets in

1276
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 7: the end zone three times.

1277
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: Looking at the Titans here, they've allowed eight hundred and

1278
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: two rushing yards on one hundred and seventy nine attempts.

1279
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: This is from the NFL Stats four point five yards

1280
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: per carry. In terms of ranking, they're thirty first out

1281
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: of thirty two teams in rushing dence this season.

1282
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 7: And Jeffrey Simmons is out, they're arguably their best defensive player,

1283
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 7: arguably their best.

1284
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: Player period and cam Ward if you're looking for a

1285
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: prop on the other side, passing attempts over thirty four

1286
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: and a half. If the Titans are going to be

1287
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: in this thing, it certainly isn't because they're running the

1288
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: ball down the colt's throat.

1289
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 4: Nah.

1290
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 2: If they're behind, they have to abandon the run. Take

1291
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: a look at cam Ward over thirty four and a

1292
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: half passing attempts.

1293
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 7: That is Jason Hammer again tonight after a win last Thursday.

1294
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 7: He likes Chargers minus three, so win by more than three.

1295
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 7: Keenan Allen over five and a half catches Justin Herbert

1296
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 7: to throw a pick and then pacer action tonight. That

1297
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 7: first three pointer of the game, boy, that always gets

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Speaker 7: my adrenaline going early in the game.

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Speaker 2: That's good money man plus two NI ninety five for

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Speaker 2: the green light that has Bendic matherin.

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Speaker 7: I have no doubt he will shoot the first three pointer.

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Speaker 7: It's more of if it'll go in. And then for Sunday,

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Speaker 7: Jonathan Taylor ten dollars to win eighty if you would

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Speaker 7: like plus eight hundred on three touchdowns or more.

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Speaker 2: And listen, if we lose every bet this week, if

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Speaker 2: I go oh for three tonight, if we don't catch

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Speaker 2: any of our long shots, think of it this way.

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Speaker 7: It could be worse.

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Speaker 2: You could have to decide between going to federal prison

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Speaker 2: and ratting out the mob like Chauncey Billups is gonna

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Speaker 2: have to do.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, worst ways to spend a Thursday. You're saying, correct, correct.

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Speaker 7: That is an accurate way to put it. Again. Degenderate's

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Speaker 7: next Door a podcast twice a week. You can hear

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Speaker 7: him every afternoon over on sister station WIBC. He is

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Speaker 7: Jason Hammer Hammer, Thank you for the Woodford.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys. Let's win some money tonight. Let's win

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Speaker 2: Chauncey Billups like money tonight. Let's go bustin.

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Speaker 7: I still think that's a good one.

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Speaker 9: I'm throwing a tomato at your brother.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god. Yeah, I got showed a good hop

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Speaker 7: out of here.