1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: You must telling me. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: Ten out of the top twenty five trending stories this 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: morning were about the Chicago Bears and their potential move 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: to him in Indiana And for reference, he was an 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: anchor on Our TV six from nineteen ninety nine to 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. Then he was an anchor at 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: Fox fifty nine from twenty nine to twenty twenty, and 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: now he is living in Chicago. Land Ray quarter Pass. 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: He joins us on the WYBC hotline. Good morning, Ray, 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: and thank you for being here. 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: Good morning guys. 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, great to be back on the airwaves in Indianapolis. 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: Nice to be with you. 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Okay, So we've got a lot of questions, 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: and I guess we need to start with the first one. 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: What has the reaction been from Chicago residents about the 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: possibility of the Bears leaving? Has it been frustration, disbelief, 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: or something else? 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: I would say this belief. 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: I mean, it has been a week of whiplash here. 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 4: You know, Bears fans Chicago has you know, been accustomed 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: to the idea of the team leaving Soldier Fields. It's 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 4: had limitations. It's the smallest, oldest stadium in the NFL. 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 4: Even after renovations that happened twenty five years ago, but 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: for many fans, just the idea, even though Hammond is 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: definitely in the Chicago market, the idea of the team 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 4: crossing state lines is a bridge that's too fared across 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 4: for many fans. 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: But you know, it made in Indiana. It seems like 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I. 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 4: Was watching the headlines there and reading how Indiana has 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 4: processed that news, and it just seems. 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: Like a great deal, a great situation. 34 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: But it just seems you know, we've been dealing with 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: this since for many years. Back in twenty one is 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: when it first came to light that the Bears were 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 4: looking at other opportunities outside of downtown Chicago. 38 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: So this has been something. 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 4: That's been ongoing here for quite some time. This was 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 4: just the latest curve in the journey Ray. 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Most of what we're seeing, as far as the average 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: person and the average Bears fan, most of what we're 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: getting is their reactions via social media, and as you 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: can imagine, our perception is they're pretty darn upset, and 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: rightly so, I get it. But did you get a 46 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: sense that Bears fans are they upset at Mayor Johnson? 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: Is it Governor Pritzker, Is it the Illinois lawmakers? Are 48 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: they mad at the Chicago Bears ownership? Like where is 49 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: it being directed most these days? 50 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of anger and dismay, and it's 51 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 4: directed at the people who control the levers of power. 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: I think a lot of Bears fans are upset with 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: the team because this seemed to be something that sort 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 4: of came out. 55 00:02:58,840 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: Of the blue. 56 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: Governor Pritzker and Illinois leaders had been meeting with Bears 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: team leaders and members of the McCaskey family, you know, 58 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: for three hours just yesterday, and the Governor came out 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: and said that he was really dismayed by this because 60 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: he felt like the Bears were moving in a direction 61 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: of good faith and now that has been brought into 62 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: question here, and a lot of Bears fans are wondering 63 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: if this and maybe hoping that this was just a 64 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: ploy to create leverage that will ultimately see the team 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 4: resettle in the northwest suburbs of Chicago. 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: Arlington Heights has been in play. 67 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: In fact, the team owns property three hundred plus acres 68 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: the old Arlington Arlington Heights race course. So Bears fans 69 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 4: are upset, Yes, they think perhaps the governor leadership in 70 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: Illinois maybe has dragged their feet. Certainly that's the frustration 71 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: that we get. 72 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: From team leaders. 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: But fans, I think they just want to however it happens. 74 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 4: I think they'd like to see the team stay in Illinois. 75 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: I think we've gotten past the fact that Soldierfield will 76 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: no longer be a home for the Bears, But to 77 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: go to Indiana just seems like beyond the realm of expectation. 78 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's next level for him. Ray corner Passi is 79 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: joining us beloved news anchor for many decades here in 80 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: central Indiana, now doing the job up in Chicago Land. 81 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: So I want to ask you about the difference in 82 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: the news reporting in the different regions, because just this 83 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: morning on WIBC with Tony Katz, the governor of Indiana 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: Mike Brawn said, all that's left really is to crop 85 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: the t's and dot the eyes. Is that the same 86 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: sentiment or reporting that is happening in Chicago. Do Chicagoans 87 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: feel like that's all that's left? 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 89 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: I think I think here Bears fans of you know, 90 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: one of the strongest fan bases throughout the NFL, and 91 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 4: It's been built over a century of love for this 92 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: team here, and you know, as I indicated before, this 93 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: is not the first time the city of Chicago has 94 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 4: had come to terms with the idea of the team leaving. 95 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: Wherever they go, they're going to stay the Chicago Bears. 96 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 4: So I think, you know, that is sort of the 97 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 4: base ideology. 98 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: But it's not a done deal. I think, I think 99 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: here in Chicago that is the realization. 100 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 4: But if you just listen to what's reported in Indiana 101 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: in fact, on social media, I've seen the phrase done 102 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 4: deal used, and I think we realize that it is 103 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 4: not a done deal. It is still up in the air. 104 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 4: But it does seem like for the moment, you know, 105 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 4: based on the Bear statement, not that they are agreeing 106 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 4: to set up shop in a new state and take 107 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 4: it from there. You know, it's a step forward, but 108 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 4: definitely not a done deal now. 109 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: Ray at its point in time, it looks like the 110 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: state of Indiana has probably put its best foot forward 111 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: at this point in time, because our legislative session is 112 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: going to wrap up here in a week or two, 113 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: and we know that there was this legislative committee meeting 114 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: in Illinois yesterday that got canceled at the last minute. 115 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: So the ball is back in the court of the 116 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: Illinois lawmakers. What are you hearing about that are their 117 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: next steps? Have they talked about rescheduling that meeting? What 118 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: are the lawmakers from Illinois do from here? 119 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 4: Well, the governor said, you know, the ball is in 120 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: the Bear's court right now, the change of sports metaphor. 121 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 4: But I think the governor remains committed to the idea 122 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: that you know, the state does not want to provide 123 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 4: tax incentives that would leave the state in an exposed 124 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: position that would hurt the taxpayers of Illinois. And I 125 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: think you know they're they're in a difficult position because 126 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: Governor Pritsker does not want to be known as the 127 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 4: governor who lost the Chicago Bears. But at the same time, uh, 128 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: you know, it does not want to prop up a 129 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: billionaire owner that would that would be harmful to the 130 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 4: state of Illinois. And so that is where the governor 131 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 4: is right now. You know, the McCaskey family ultimately will 132 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 4: make that decision and they. 133 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: Are going to be looking for the best deal possible. 134 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: We just don't know for sure what that is yet. 135 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: So Ray, you mentioned taxes in there, because because from 136 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: our perspective here in Indiana, what we're hearing from Illinois 137 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: is it seems like the state and the Bears have 138 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: agreed to the point where the Bears will fund most 139 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: of the construction. Illinois has agreed to do the infrastructure. 140 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: Is this really down to all about the taxes associated 141 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: with that property? 142 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: It seems that way this point. 143 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: I mean, the Bears, for their part, they would love 144 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: to have the control that would be available to them 145 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: in a new location, whether it's the northwest suburbs of 146 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: Chicago or it seems like, you know, the state of 147 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: Indiana is rolling out the red carpet that would give 148 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: them lots of opportunities to really capitalize on the revenue stream. 149 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: I think that is what it comes down. 150 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: To for the Bears, and it's just it's not clear 151 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: yet how that's going to play out long term. 152 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: I mean, thirty five. 153 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: Year lease, where would that leave the Bears at the end? 154 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: You know, it's not totally clear yet. 155 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: Great Quarter Pass he's joining us. Has there been any 156 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: word from any like corporate sponsors or partners that are 157 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: based in Chicago, Have they met any statements about the 158 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: possibility of the Bears moving. 159 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: Well, Cook County leaders. 160 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: You know, they put out a formal statement to the 161 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: Bears to make the pitch that they should stay in Illinois. 162 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: I'll give you a. 163 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 4: Little statement here. It says the Bears are not merely 164 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: a football team. They're woven into the cultural and civic 165 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: identity of our region. The Bears are one of the 166 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: charter franchises of the NFL, with a legacy that includes 167 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: nine championships, legendary figures such as George Hallis and Walter Payton, 168 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 4: and generations of families who have built traditions around Sunday football. 169 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: So they are part of a network of civic and 170 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 4: corporate entities that have a vested interest in maintaining the 171 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: connection with the Bears in Chicago, and they'll be working 172 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 4: hard behind the scenes to make sure that the Bears 173 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: stay here in Illinois. 174 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: Ray, we appreciate you joining us. I have one last 175 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: question for you before we let you go. Has there 176 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: been what is the most underreported angle in Chicago news 177 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: coverage so far? I mean we're hearing it from the 178 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: Indiana Central Indiana aspect. In your mind, what's been the 179 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: most the reported angle? 180 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: I think from your perspective, probably the twists and turns 181 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: that have played out over the years. I mean, Arlington 182 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 4: is where we thought the team would end up. We've 183 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 4: been getting used to that idea since twenty twenty one. 184 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: But you know again, property taxes created a stalemate there 185 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 4: for the Bears President Kevin Warren, mayor Brandon Johnson in Chicago, 186 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: they felt like, you know, it could still end up 187 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: in downtown Chicago. I mean moving to a location just 188 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: south of Soldier Field. 189 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: You know, there's all kinds of problems that. 190 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 4: Are presented to try to get to a Bears game 191 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: for many fans. They've sort of identified an opportunity to 192 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 4: make it better fan experience if the team could move 193 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: to a location just south of Soldier Field along the 194 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 4: Chicago Lakefront. That became sort of a non starter, and 195 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 4: so Arlington Heights then picked up steam in the Northwest suburbs. 196 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: And so this is a saga that it may seem 197 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 4: on the Indiana side of the border that it's almost 198 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: ready to wrap up. I feel like it's still got 199 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 4: a ways to go before it crosses the. 200 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: End zone. 201 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys have been talking about this for a while. Well, 202 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: we appreciate your time. Rate quorder Passy, good conversation and 203 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 2: thank you so much for the insight. 204 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: Kakesy Jen, great to be with you. 205 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks ight. You're listening to ninety three WIBC. Good morning,