WEBVTT - Source Code (15th Anniversary)

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<v Speaker 1>The Frames per Second Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome everybody to a new episode of Frames

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<v Speaker 2>per Second Kenneth be And shared with Spike, Mike and Rod.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing fifteenth year anniversary of Source Code, which stars

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Gillen Hall. Is from twenty eleven Jillen Is It

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<v Speaker 2>Jilly Gillen Hall and it's written by Ben Ripley and

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<v Speaker 2>directed by Duncan Jones. He is a US Army officer

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<v Speaker 2>who gets stuck in an eight minute loop which is

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<v Speaker 2>a recreation of a train explosion that happened, and he

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<v Speaker 2>has to find out who did it? Who set the

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<v Speaker 2>budget of thirty two mil and did a box office

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<v Speaker 2>of one hundred and forty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Meal really yeah, so I ain't really being big like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Jake Jim had a run yeah yeah, so yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 3>it did well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those movies that you know, it is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of made for like the screen and not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of super thinking, so sort of those sort of

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know block us to special summer movies.

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<v Speaker 4>But because it was released in March, I think this

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<v Speaker 4>would be like a considered thinking movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Though at the time you think so, I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it seemed fairly straightforward.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it is like a who done it type

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<v Speaker 4>of situation though what it is that who done it?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely is and those those used to be considered like thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>like uh.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the ones we watched like seven and.

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<v Speaker 6>What was the other one?

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<v Speaker 5>It was another one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 6>Definitely a thinking movie.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you're probably not viewing it that way because other

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<v Speaker 7>movies have been made since then that's been better.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but definitely at the time, I feel like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Was anybody seen this before?

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<v Speaker 4>Hell no, I did. Actually I think I didn't. I

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't remember because it didn't stick with me like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't remember I start watching it that I had seen.

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<v Speaker 1>It exactly the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, yeah, I did see this, because

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<v Speaker 4>it took a minute too. I was like, wait, did

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<v Speaker 4>I see this? Because I was I did follow the I.

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<v Speaker 5>Wasn't that whole Jake Jenna Hall trained.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Oh Jesus.

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<v Speaker 8>You're so corny man.

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<v Speaker 5>It didn't come to me until I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus, but I was that on that so so now yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, okay, yeah, I do remember this, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>So Mike, this is your first time watched.

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<v Speaker 7>I had never even heard of this movie and I

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<v Speaker 7>walked in completely fucking blind.

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<v Speaker 1>What'd you walk away with?

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<v Speaker 5>Y'all can have this ship?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 8>This was boring as fuck to me going on.

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<v Speaker 7>Hell No, I was like once he was going around,

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, bro, I'm good this is I don't

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<v Speaker 7>even care who blues.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to blow the whole.

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<v Speaker 7>Fucking system up. I was like, you the fucking lady

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<v Speaker 7>controlling it? Fucking uh, what's black?

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<v Speaker 5>What's the black?

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<v Speaker 7>Dudes like Jeffrey White with his fucking cane. I would

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<v Speaker 7>have blew all of them up.

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<v Speaker 8>I did not care. This was just this was an

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<v Speaker 8>annoying movie.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you Did you feel like you knew who it was?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 7>Because I didn't care who it was because they never

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<v Speaker 7>really gave me enough explanation for me to care about

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<v Speaker 7>why this specific train explosion was so important.

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<v Speaker 8>I know they ended up saying it kind of, but

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<v Speaker 8>I just they took their time.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting there right, So I was like, why should I

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<v Speaker 1>give a fuck? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, watching it again, I'm like, oh, I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>clearly see who the person is.

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<v Speaker 7>I kind of guessed it was him, But then at

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<v Speaker 7>the same time, I was just like, well, it's not

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<v Speaker 7>gonna be him.

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<v Speaker 5>That'd be too like, I'm like, look, he dropped his.

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<v Speaker 7>Phone and the guy around home, man, here's your phone,

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<v Speaker 7>and they focused on that. At first, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>it's that guy's No way, that's too obvious.

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<v Speaker 5>It was wallet.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, you're right. I'm like, cand

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<v Speaker 4>of be this obvious, Like what the fuck? Well no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it absolutely wasn't. Yeah, I can't remember the first time

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<v Speaker 4>I ever watched it. If I guessed who it was,

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<v Speaker 4>I doubt it. But yeah, i've seen it before.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not one of that that's a rewatchable. It's just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>i've seen it one.

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<v Speaker 5>Some good you know, but probably I didn't remember it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It took about Uh, I'm kind of like you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I've seen it before, but I can remember

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<v Speaker 2>everything that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so now I realized it was just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like The Trainers. Well, oh yeah, I do remember this

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<v Speaker 2>because it reminds me of another movie. Tom Cruise was

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<v Speaker 2>the one that was similar to where he kept going

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<v Speaker 2>back in time trying to stop something. No, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>Minority Report, it was something else. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Cruise, but I'll look to see if I can

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<v Speaker 2>find it. But but yeah, but apparently it was definitely

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<v Speaker 2>kind of held in in I regard, I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>regard enough, I should say, I know Tom Cruiser did

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<v Speaker 2>the Mummy. Maybe I forgot about that ship which Edge

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<v Speaker 2>of Tomorrow I think is the movie I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>what Mummy was he in.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in two thousand and seven. He did a

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<v Speaker 1>Mummy movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the franchise, but I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 2>like the one that we reviewed. But yeah, he definitely

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<v Speaker 2>did a Mummy movie.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't remember seen most of his movies too, but

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<v Speaker 5>I remember Edge of Tomorrow too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah, he was in

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<v Speaker 1>the Tom loop.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so you know, so overall, also, Mike was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm good. How do you guys feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it held up over time? Fifteen years later.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike said, it already, they've done it better since then.

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<v Speaker 4>This is like super obvious, but I think they've gotten

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<v Speaker 4>better with not making stuff so obvious.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't know, it.

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<v Speaker 4>Could have used a little a little more depth, a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit more motive, But I mean, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 4>I think it. I think it was good for the time.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, like, like it was fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I agree with Raw and Mike. I think it

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<v Speaker 6>was good for the time.

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<v Speaker 9>But I also think that we've seen movies do this

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<v Speaker 9>type of thing so much better.

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<v Speaker 6>Now it's like, okay, it's like average.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not recommendable.

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<v Speaker 9>Like you, No, I wouldn't tell nobody that, man, you've

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<v Speaker 9>got man best performances, not like the movie we saw

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<v Speaker 9>last week. I told people like, nah, you have to

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<v Speaker 9>see that. I was texting people that, so I left

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<v Speaker 9>out the movie. I can't believe it ain't like it.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't say that. I was definitely you've been insinuated

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<v Speaker 9>since since Thursday we was about he was rolling his eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't roll my eyes. I was just like, oh, yeah, he.

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<v Speaker 6>Liked it, so yeah, it ain't a movie like that.

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<v Speaker 9>Then I will be like, now you have to see this,

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<v Speaker 9>but it's it's cool if it's on TBS or something.

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't watch it on TBS. I cut that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if it's I think, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'm trying to think like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what tear it falls on there when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to like mainstream action movies. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where it will fall, but.

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<v Speaker 5>This is considered like FI too, right mm hm, thriller

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<v Speaker 5>type of thing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's just not great because it's just there was

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<v Speaker 7>no point where I was like, oh man, where's the bomb?

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<v Speaker 7>And got to find the bomb? And what's going on

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<v Speaker 7>with this girl? And who is just like Actually, now

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<v Speaker 7>that I'm thinking about it, I don't think I remember why.

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<v Speaker 4>They had to stop this particular train because they were

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<v Speaker 4>the guy was going to set off a nuclear a

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<v Speaker 4>dirty bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 6>He was on the guy when the guy was on

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<v Speaker 6>that train.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so it kind of morphed into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, instead of an exterior threat to the US, it

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<v Speaker 2>was the threat is domestic and this was this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the one that was his reason for doing it.

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<v Speaker 7>But I guess because this wasn't time travel, this was

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<v Speaker 7>just him going back and simulating, then what was the

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<v Speaker 7>point Because the world was already fucked by that point,

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<v Speaker 7>so who cared?

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<v Speaker 6>But if he if he fixed it, then the world

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't get fucked.

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<v Speaker 9>But he wasn't going back in time, but he had

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<v Speaker 9>to take somebody off the map.

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<v Speaker 6>If I'm not mistake is.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, that kind of confusing, Yeah, question, Yeah, he asked

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<v Speaker 9>that question. I don't remember what he said, but he

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<v Speaker 9>asked a question, and I thought they said, well, it's

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<v Speaker 9>specific to killing that one.

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<v Speaker 6>Particular guy because that will stop a chain of events.

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<v Speaker 9>Because remember he tried to save the girl, and they

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<v Speaker 9>was like it no matter, she dead in another world anyway.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but if what he's doing, explain that. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 8>they explained it, I missed it because.

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<v Speaker 2>He wouldn't know that the guy sitting off a dirty bomb,

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<v Speaker 2>as if the dirty bomb went off, right, he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go off though, right, Yeah, so it's too he was

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<v Speaker 2>setting up another one, so they only had a certain

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<v Speaker 2>time frame to get it done.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why he was running out of time.

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<v Speaker 2>So they had intel that he was going to set

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<v Speaker 2>off another one. They just didn't know who it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was was, so they had to go back in time.

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<v Speaker 4>But they only had a certain time frame to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, it seems that's right. Yeah, Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>And we just kept reliving because he went back nine times, right, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 4>He had about an hour maybe a solid hour to

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<v Speaker 4>get it done. That's why they kept sending them back, like,

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<v Speaker 4>don't even don't even talk to us about to send

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<v Speaker 4>them back.

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<v Speaker 1>Let him figure it out. Well, he went eight times.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, the night time was when he went back to

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<v Speaker 2>just stay so yeah, so yeah, about a run an

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<v Speaker 2>hour or so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, before he got to his next destination. So

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<v Speaker 1>mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they he kind of you know, broke things

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<v Speaker 2>up into faces, using the loops to kind of slowly

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<v Speaker 2>kind of fill out aspects of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So his backstory, he thought he was on a mission

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<v Speaker 2>and afrigat us and just woke up and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was very disoriented. His friend Christine and Warren was

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<v Speaker 2>on the train. They show us the reflection of him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a different person. So like the first loop was

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<v Speaker 2>just an introduce, introduction to the character. Then we went

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<v Speaker 2>back to base and then we get his backstory and

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<v Speaker 2>we see kind of them kind of going through this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of pattern recognition and ye that was cool, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the cars and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, instead of just giving them the information, just making them,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, self teach them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I don't even remember this, okay, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, because he was disoriented when he came out

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<v Speaker 4>of the loop and he didn't know where he was and.

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<v Speaker 6>They had these little check marks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they had these.

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<v Speaker 9>Triggered his memory to start to be like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 9>touching something. I was already bored the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know what beliaguer?

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<v Speaker 5>You call me?

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<v Speaker 2>Belaeguer Castle was the name of the place. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>real place. No, but the word belieguer though English major.

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<v Speaker 10>I was asking, I'm not English major, something English a belieguer.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I've never heard that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I looked at him. I was like, beleaguer castle.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, but, yeah, belieguer is a one of

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<v Speaker 2>the definitions of a place arounded by armed forces aiming

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<v Speaker 2>to capture it or for surrender besieged, and also means

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<v Speaker 2>in a very difficult situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it was the first one.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never heard that before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I just looked at it was like, beleaguer castle.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did they pick the beleaguered? Yeah, neither his name

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<v Speaker 2>so that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So they kind of moved this thing along fairly quick.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the second trip they found the bomb, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and at this point, uh, that that comedian was on there,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, he asked him about that, he said, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he called him an assholes. Festival and you're the headliner,

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<v Speaker 2>and y'all remember that.

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<v Speaker 8>I did think that was it was.

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<v Speaker 7>It was such a nineties joke, but it was kind

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<v Speaker 7>of funny because I grew up in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like, oh, that's not something I would have said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm gonna just kind of go through the

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<v Speaker 2>trips and different things that that happened.

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<v Speaker 5>I did like that they got to that fast.

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<v Speaker 1>He did.

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<v Speaker 6>That was one of the best things about this movie.

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<v Speaker 6>What did it was fast?

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<v Speaker 7>And that there wasn't a single black person in the

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<v Speaker 7>whole movie was right, he don't count.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a black person in the train too.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, I don't remember a single black person on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like he was gonna be late.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so fucked that is fucked up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, Oh my god, that's fucked up. Damn Ye,

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<v Speaker 4>you're right though, even in the simulation, we can't be

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<v Speaker 4>on got some ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so so yeah, we found the ball round trip

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<v Speaker 2>to then we're back at base and that's what saw

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<v Speaker 2>the movie's name in the background, and we get information

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<v Speaker 2>about him and that he's been with the unit for

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<v Speaker 2>two months ago. He thought and uh, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>explained what the movie is and what source code is

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<v Speaker 2>and basically just going back into the body of a

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<v Speaker 2>dead person that head.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just fits.

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<v Speaker 5>That fits his like kind of that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of that was kind of interesting that you have

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<v Speaker 2>like eight minutes of time left before everything just goes dark.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought that was pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a cool idea.

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<v Speaker 7>I wish they'd just done something cooler with it, but

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<v Speaker 7>this is a really cool idea.

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<v Speaker 8>Probably they didn't make a equal to.

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<v Speaker 2>This, they very well could because I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>round trip three or four is when he saved the girl.

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<v Speaker 2>They got off the train, and he was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I really saved her, Like, are y'all sure? It was

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<v Speaker 2>like we all did?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>See that was that was also my confusion, because I

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<v Speaker 7>was like, why does he think Why does he think

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<v Speaker 7>he saved her?

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<v Speaker 8>He knows this isn't time travel, so I was just confused.

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<v Speaker 2>For well, I think that's that was confused to him,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why he was like for certain that what

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<v Speaker 2>they were saying wasn't real because it seemed like, damn, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can just go live your life. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 6>Just hopped off the train and just stayed there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, then they killed him.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way they were trying to say it is like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>once you get that eight minute like and that, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's a wrap. But I thought the explanation was getting

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<v Speaker 2>this when they explained what was going on with the

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<v Speaker 2>train and why he needed to stop a ride because

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<v Speaker 2>it was the first attack of a series.

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<v Speaker 4>Of attack, and he was saying, is that those people

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<v Speaker 4>are gone? Like we're just trying to say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Mean but but for Jake Jonhall's character to be like, well, no,

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<v Speaker 7>I saved the girl.

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<v Speaker 5>The girl was saved.

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<v Speaker 7>Was that just supposed to imply that he couldn't separate

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<v Speaker 7>that world from reality.

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<v Speaker 5>It was supposed to it was supposed to imply that.

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<v Speaker 4>But then it also, which we'll get to towards the end,

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<v Speaker 4>shows that he was actually kind of right.

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<v Speaker 5>How was he right? Because it's parallel in another world.

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<v Speaker 5>She saved.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's saved in that world, not in not in not.

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<v Speaker 7>A real world like her, she's dead. This is only

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<v Speaker 7>a world in his brain.

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<v Speaker 5>No, this is a parallel.

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<v Speaker 2>World, marvel Ship, parallel world, yeah sure, yeah, yeah, parallel world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the third trip back he knows everything is real,

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<v Speaker 2>so now he's moving differently than the oh yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then yeah, the third trip is when they're explaining source

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<v Speaker 2>code and the light bulb. They use the light bulb

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<v Speaker 2>to describe it about how it goes off, and then

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<v Speaker 2>that's when we learn that he's on the train and

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<v Speaker 2>he's he in the body of the courts and blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah blah. So they said this isn't time travel,

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<v Speaker 2>but to you, Mike, it's time travel.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, no, no, that's what I'm saying. No, at

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<v Speaker 7>this point, it's not time travel. At this point, I

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<v Speaker 7>understand that this is all fake, This is all simulation.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were cool with where we were going. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a movie was born.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I thought the idea itself of putting putting someone's

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<v Speaker 7>essence into this time through source code or through hacking,

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<v Speaker 7>I thought that was a really cool idea.

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<v Speaker 8>I just didn't give a fuck about why he was

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<v Speaker 8>doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And then this is the point where he was confused, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and his mind. He saved the woman, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>only in a parallel universe. And I'm trying to remember

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<v Speaker 2>if Jeffrey Wright said it, but he said the universe

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<v Speaker 2>that world doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 5>But right, yeah, I mean, but it's no way he

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<v Speaker 5>can act.

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<v Speaker 9>But absolutely, yeah, he don't know that because later on

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<v Speaker 9>in the movie, when a thing happened his whole ship,

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<v Speaker 9>he didn't realize that they had figured it out because

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<v Speaker 9>it went back in time with some crazy ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, movie, we're going straight through this movie fairly quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>For uh, he knows everything. He tried to steal a

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<v Speaker 2>gun and didn't work, blah blah blah. Uh, then he

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<v Speaker 2>found out that uh, he sees the bad ceoc and

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<v Speaker 2>and he calls the bass and try to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>reach Jeffrey, right, but none of that ship happens because

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<v Speaker 2>he's in another world, because he's in this old world.

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<v Speaker 8>Didn't you know that?

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<v Speaker 5>Why didn't who know what that?

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<v Speaker 7>He wasn't in the world where he can make a

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<v Speaker 7>fucking phone called Jeffrey Right. I was like, is this

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<v Speaker 7>guy stupid or something?

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't know that initially?

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<v Speaker 8>Why didn't he?

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<v Speaker 5>What did he think?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, so in the movie, he must have thought he

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<v Speaker 8>was time traveling.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote down that this was time travel by another name.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it seemed like to me.

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<v Speaker 8>But nothing he could do and that would reality that.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know why he didn't know that, right, That's

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<v Speaker 8>what I'm getting. So did he just not know that

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<v Speaker 8>he was not time traveling?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it because he's the one experiencing it. They're not

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<v Speaker 4>experiencing it he.

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<v Speaker 7>Is, I know, but she kind of told him that

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<v Speaker 7>this is what's happening. You're basically dead. Everybody on that

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<v Speaker 7>train is dead. We're just sending you back in a simulation.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm pretty sure she told him that. So was his

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<v Speaker 7>simple ass just not understanding what she was.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying at this point. He didn't find that out until after.

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<v Speaker 7>This right exactly, but at some point she told him that.

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<v Speaker 7>So why did he keep insisting, Well, I say the girl.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it feels real to him, even though she told

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<v Speaker 4>his stupid ass it wasn't okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So he believed her, right, did he?

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<v Speaker 4>No, he did so, but he in order to test it,

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<v Speaker 4>test the theory, to see if he was actually out

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<v Speaker 4>of his.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind, he wrote a letter.

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<v Speaker 5>He wrote a letter to her to who to why

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<v Speaker 5>the command? Yeah, whoever she is.

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<v Speaker 4>He wrote a to her that that she'll get later

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<v Speaker 4>on like y'all don't know if you probably don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>but the program works d D.

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<v Speaker 5>So he did that. The other thing he did was

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<v Speaker 5>had the comedian.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I'm skipping, but he had the comedian make

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<v Speaker 4>everybody laugh in that moment, so that'll be like the

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<v Speaker 4>lasting memory.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, he didn't know it was going to continue after that.

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<v Speaker 4>He just that's why he had the comedian do that,

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<v Speaker 4>so at least that everybody have they're about to die,

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<v Speaker 4>but at least they'll have this last the last last

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<v Speaker 4>when they die. Yeah, I'm following, But what happened was

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<v Speaker 4>is that the ship, that parallel universe, continued on, do

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 5>He didn't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 7>He didn't know it would This is not a parallel universe.

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<v Speaker 7>And this is just his simulation in his in his

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<v Speaker 7>brain palniverse.

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<v Speaker 6>And he did something to change the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>He did. He wrote it.

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<v Speaker 8>So and that letter get delivered.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>In another world, another parallel universe. The letter he wrote

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<v Speaker 2>to get to them to stop the train from blowing up.

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<v Speaker 5>It's dumb as.

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<v Speaker 7>Hell, bro, it's not. It sucks, it's not. And he

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<v Speaker 7>went back in a simulation and then he figured out that, oh, ship,

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<v Speaker 7>this is a parallel universe. I'm a writer letter And

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<v Speaker 7>the motherfuckers that made the ship didn't know this.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't figure it out.

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<v Speaker 5>He just he tried.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't know, he didn't, He didn't. He didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>if it was gonna actually work, but he tried it.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's why I said, Yo, if this letter gets

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<v Speaker 4>to you, this means this or whatever.

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<v Speaker 8>So why did he come up with this theory?

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<v Speaker 7>But they, the motherfuckers that made the ship, didn't already

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<v Speaker 7>know that this is a possibility.

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<v Speaker 4>Because Jeffrey Right was trying to test out the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he just you don't know if it was gonna work

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<v Speaker 4>or not.

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<v Speaker 7>So Jeffrey Right at some point thought that this could

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<v Speaker 7>be a parallel universe.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Jeffrey Right, it is like this ship only exists

0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:58.399
<v Speaker 2>in this in the in this world.

0:21:58.400 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 5>And that's what he was when.

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:01.239
<v Speaker 8>Y'all said he didn't know if it would work or not.

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<v Speaker 7>That doesn't make sense if he didn't even think that

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.440
<v Speaker 7>this was a parallel universe, because why would why would

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 7>the idea of I don't know if this will work

0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 7>or not even come into play?

0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.240
<v Speaker 8>Like I know for a fact, I can't walk on

0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.000
<v Speaker 8>the wall. I don't have to test that ship.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 9>So, but Jake Jenlehaal character was experiencing it, he thought

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 9>since he was experiencing it, well, the movie presented it

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 9>as since he was experiencing it, he had a different

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:30.200
<v Speaker 9>expertise of the thing, the thing they were using, versus

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 9>Jeffrey Right, who doesn't make it.

0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, and no. But he was also experimenting. But

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:39.800
<v Speaker 2>what what what what he was relaying back to Jeffrey Right.

0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Wright, in his arrogance, didn't listen to us. He

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 2>was saying, no, you only saved her in source code.

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 2>That's it because the way he designed it, it only

0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 2>has eight minute intervals.

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 1>So for him, that's that's it, the of how it worked.

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 2>He should have been, as a creator more open to

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Jake saying that exactly.

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 7>But Jake didn't know. He didn't know. But this the

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 7>oh god, this is making.

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 5>Was trying to relay it back.

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 2>To to Jeffrey Wright's character Rutledge, but he.

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 7>Wasn't experiencing anything except for what was in his brain.

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what Jeffrey Wright was telling him.

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 7>This movie is trash. So he accidentally created a fucking

0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 7>time machine.

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 5>This is do parallel.

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.159
<v Speaker 2>What happened was because he got killed, thrown him to

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:40.480
<v Speaker 2>the track. He never lived past the eight minute mark.

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 2>He didn't get a chance to test this theory until

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 2>the end.

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:46.199
<v Speaker 5>I got you right.

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.680
<v Speaker 7>But in order for him to make a parallel universe,

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 7>he had to go back in time because these things

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 7>already happened. So he must have accidentally set this motherfucker

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 7>back in time thinking it was just the first count.

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 7>It was a fucking time machine, because otherwise, how would

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 7>the parallel universe get created?

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:06.920
<v Speaker 8>In order for him to send the letter to the

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 8>other you.

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 2>So each time he went back, he was going to

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 2>a different parallel universe.

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 8>This movie is trash.

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 7>I cannot believe this movie is so much worse than

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 7>I thought. I thought the movie was just okay after

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:19.719
<v Speaker 7>y'all explain what really happened.

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 8>I think this movie sucks.

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 2>That they've created another parallel universe with the dam mans.

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 6>By accident, and it changed the new universe to the

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:28.880
<v Speaker 6>that's my.

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:31.119
<v Speaker 8>Point, it changed the new universe.

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<v Speaker 7>If y'all told me Jeffrey Wright kind of knew that

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 7>this might happen but he was hiding it, I would

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 7>buy into that.

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 8>But if he didn't, that's my point. But if he

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.119
<v Speaker 8>didn't know it all and he's just like, oh.

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 7>We came up with this thing called source code where

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.119
<v Speaker 7>it sends you back into a simulation.

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 8>Oops, it's actually a time machine.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys.

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 8>This is dumb.

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 5>This movie is.

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 2>See him not knowing the extent of what the machine

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:02.439
<v Speaker 2>is able to do. Maybe his his because he probably

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't even look past the fact that they could create

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and it makes sense. I don't think why he would

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 2>even think that it would create a parallel universe.

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 4>Right, he says In a letter, he says in a

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 4>letter like this, This this thing works more than you

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 4>guys could ever imagine it with.

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 7>Yes see that makes sense that he would think that

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 7>because he's experiencing this, so he would think, oh, this

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 7>is what's happening. But if this is really what's happening,

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 7>this takes this movie from a C to an F.

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 4>But I think that's what what what people do when

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 4>they tamper with with certain ship like that.

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh I know I'm talking like this ship is real.

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 5>It might be, you know.

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying like you just never know when you

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 4>tamper with ship, you'd be changing the fabric of reality.

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 2>So now you have the world where they stop the

0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:49.159
<v Speaker 2>dirty bomb, and now you have the world where they

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 2>stop the train and the dirty bomb.

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I wish, and now in.

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.640
<v Speaker 7>Time to stop this movie because this ship stud.

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Character, it's not happening in a parallel verse. Now he's

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 2>alive and a completely different world. So he gave basically

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.359
<v Speaker 2>that to live again. Because did you guys think that

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>he was dead? Did you guys?

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.119
<v Speaker 5>Was that a bit of a oh I think he

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 5>was dead?

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? When they revealed that, how did you like.

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 4>He was with one arm and one leg and shit, yeah,

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 4>when he went back the last time, was not not

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.639
<v Speaker 4>that machine was dying. I think it was around trip

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 4>five he went back because remember he called the base

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:29.440
<v Speaker 4>and he told Christina, I need you to go find

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 4>this guy.

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 2>And she went and looked him up and she was like, yeah,

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 2>that guy's dead. Your friend is dead. And then that's

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 2>when we got to reveal that he was actually dead too.

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 7>Yes, okay, so when that happened, I was like, oh,

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:46.439
<v Speaker 7>that's really interesting. But again I was I knew I

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 7>was missing something, and I sure shit wasn't about to

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 7>watch it again. So I was just hoping y'all could

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 7>explain it. I did not think the explanation going to

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 7>be this stupid.

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think that was it.

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 2>That was like, you're in the body of a dead

0:26:57.880 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 2>man and only the last for eight minutes. Oh, by

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 2>the way, way, you're dead too, and that's why we

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 2>were only able to as he said earlier, it's only

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:07.360
<v Speaker 2>a certain person that can do this.

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't think he was dead. I don't remember him

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 4>being dead. I thought he was just decapitated. He not capitated, but.

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:16.960
<v Speaker 6>Because he told him to ask whatever.

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 9>But it was him and he was dead, so that

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 9>one time he told him and asked about this soldier

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 9>that he claimed was his friend.

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 4>Right, But that's so, so I think they were just lying.

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 4>I think I think he's on life support, hooked up

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 4>the neuro sensh.

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, that's why he was right.

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 4>So his father and everything think he's dead, but he's

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 4>actually a part of this program right in their experiment

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 4>and their experiment, and they're saying, yeah.

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:41.719
<v Speaker 1>No, he's dead. That's what it was. Yeah.

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 5>So and then that's why he's like, yo, pull the

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 5>plug on me.

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so I can stay and see. That made the

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 7>movie make I was like, Okay, he wants to stay

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 7>in this, in this fantasy world. But now y'all are

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 7>saying that this is actually another world, which is.

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Why he had those visions and stuff of it, And

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 4>so it brings.

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 5>What am I trying to say?

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 4>So it makes it interesting, is like, okay, can you

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 4>live in this parallel universe?

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 5>And is it and is it actually real?

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Is it?

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm well yeah, that's where it gets confusing because they

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 2>made it seem like it.

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 4>Was really yeah, like you had memories memories of it, like,

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 4>so this is something that was supposed to happen too,

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 4>So it's parallel universes that's supposed to happen.

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 5>Because he had these memories of it.

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 2>It was confusing to me because at the end, I

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 2>was like, wait a minute, they already stopped the bomb

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 2>on the train, what is he doing? But it was

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>another It was a completely different world. Ye, in an

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 2>alternate reality basically, so and that was interesting. So they

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>just took it to another place. I think they did

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>that just so they can probably get a sequel maybe,

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>but I.

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 7>Mean, they don't need to use these characters for a sequel.

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 7>I'm surprised they didn't just make a movie.

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 5>Where to somebody else.

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't.

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>But I think I think that was the only prototype,

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>and this was proof that it worked in this experiment ninety.

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 2>That's why he renegged on his whole promise to let

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>him die, because that's when he told him to say

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 2>that one soldier's death is something.

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I forgot what Lonnie said.

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 8>But the woman did it still, She still pulled the

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 8>plug off.

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah she did.

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>She honored him because she was a soldier he wasn't,

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>so she understood the soldier's cold, which is why she

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>a bet.

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 4>But when he was out there, they was like open

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 4>the fucking door. He was mad, you can't run after me,

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 4>and ship like chill out.

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 2>But he was a piece of shit, obviously because he

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to let him die, but she was gonna

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 2>clear he was going to clear his memory and start

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 2>over in another program. And at the time we're thinking, oh,

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna start over. He wouldn't even know about the

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 2>mission that he just completed. But when you think about it,

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 2>it's possible because he probably have remnants of that mission

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>on mission too.

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>But either way it go. You know, I think you function.

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it worked well enough.

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 5>I'm glad y'all liked it. Yeah, I mean it was cool,

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 5>it was decent. I think it's definitely for the time.

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 5>I think that's.

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 4>Where they got multiverse from Marvel just cross.

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I think, like, uh, to your point, they didn't have

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>to introduce the alternate reality parallel universe.

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>They really didn't.

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I think it would have been fine. I think they

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>just wanted to. Maybe they just didn't want to kill

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 2>the character and that was their way out. I think

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>it ending with him going back, having people their last

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 2>moments smiling, laughing, which is what he paid the comedian

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 2>to do, and then kissing her. I think that would

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>have been fine.

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 5>Maybe the alternate universe is heaven.

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, we.

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you going down this.

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>This uh.

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 5>Happened.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 8>Well at least you're admitting that it's fake.

0:30:55.920 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 4>See you you want You're the one said it.

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 5>But that's not fake though, it is fake.

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 7>If it's not real, is it real conscious?

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 5>That's true?

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Well anyway, Yeah, so that that's it. Man, a fifteen

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 2>years look back at source Code.

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 5>Who the fun voted for this bullshit I don't know.

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 4>I think it was did they? Taylor gave us a list?

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 4>It was my pass right, that's right, and they voted.

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, wait, you this so fucking fun vote for this

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 7>bullshit ass movie?

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Hey man, I was, you know, to talk about some

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 2>sci fi source code?

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Do you think it was over? The last question I had?

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you you guys already seen it? Do you think

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>it was a waste of time?

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 7>Before all of this, Before all of this, I didn't

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 7>feel like it was a waste of time.

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 5>I was a boring ass movie.

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 7>Now I think it was a waste of time because

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 7>they accidentally did time traveling.

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 8>I can't travel.

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 7>I feel like I am from I'm Gonna Off Universal.

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 7>People think this shitty ass.

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 5>Movie is good. Oh man, if it was not time.

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 7>Travel, if it really just ended with Jake Gillenhall's character

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<v Speaker 7>and the woman he saved the day he figured out

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<v Speaker 7>who set the bomb off, and then they get to

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<v Speaker 7>lift happily ever after in this in this simulation, and

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<v Speaker 7>when they pull the plug, you know, the simulation continues

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<v Speaker 7>in his brain.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be fine with that. That would have been a

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<v Speaker 2>better ending. I don't know why they added the other element.

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<v Speaker 2>I do agree with you that the simulation would.

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<v Speaker 8>Have been the simulation interfering into the real world. That's

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<v Speaker 8>the part where.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just like, this is stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 5>He said, send me back, send me back. It was right,

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<v Speaker 5>we gotta go back. He wanted to try to save everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>No, which was you know, yeah, I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in agreement with you there, you know, to make

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<v Speaker 2>him the hero.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was heroic.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's a soldier, so he naturally wants to save people.

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<v Speaker 5>He was going back to get some pusses.

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<v Speaker 2>Man was but but I think stopping there and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>him living in a simulation would have been right, would

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<v Speaker 2>have been a better ending than adding the elements of

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<v Speaker 2>it's a parallel universe and this machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Is super powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>But either way, I think it Ultimately, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay. I think I think they just cheated. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they were just trying to cheat and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want Check to die what Paradise did.

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<v Speaker 5>It's Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the initial Alex.

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<v Speaker 6>Y'all lucky that I was thinking about you.

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<v Speaker 5>I can punch somebody, Alex.

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<v Speaker 7>I was texting the Home Alaska and I was because

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<v Speaker 7>he was like, Oh, there's all kinds of theories that

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<v Speaker 7>it's like lost and there's parallel. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 7>knock it off. That's not what's happening the next FU episode.

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<v Speaker 6>I definitely got lost vibes from Paradise.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, check out our review of Paradise is up on

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<v Speaker 2>the feet now and see what you guys. It's frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>with Mike about that. I don't know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why they did the time traill thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what is it?

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<v Speaker 4>It's like this accidental time travel. No, it is like this,

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<v Speaker 4>It's absolutely like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's alternate universes because the fucking sun. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, why why do we always have to have this?

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<v Speaker 2>Still, I don't know, I'm holding I hope that that's

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<v Speaker 2>we're maybe spoiling some ship.

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<v Speaker 4>You're right side, y'all can cut it off.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about about to do the OMEN, y'all. Make

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<v Speaker 2>sure y'all check out the OMEN reviews. How many years thirty, thirty, fifty, seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>anyway more than thirty then?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, fifty, yes, uh, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We're ending here man. We'll catch you cauts that time.

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<v Speaker 1>We up