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Speaker 1: So neither Eddie, much to the dismay of probably many

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Speaker 2: Changes need to be made, Jake, And I don't know

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Speaker 1: Okay, now you said changes need to be made. I

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Speaker 1: I think he probably did right. Why would Nie Smith?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, Like I sent you a text, Jake,

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Speaker 2: does it? I didn't tell you when I sent the text.

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Speaker 1: Fair but I but but there would be reason for

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Speaker 1: you know, at that time, with that report coming out like,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason for Aaron Nesmith to basically, you know,

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Speaker 1: say that. And I'm not saying Aaron Ne Smith's a

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Speaker 1: liar by any strategy. I mean, that's not what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I think he's being truthful because why would he why

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Speaker 1: would he throw that nugget out there if it wasn't true.

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Speaker 1: But I just think Miles Turner, this is a situation

438
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Speaker 1: and at times when he was a player here, with

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Speaker 1: all players, it comes into play. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: he totally thought through what it was he was saying

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Speaker 1: in the moment, and I think he thought, like, I'm

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Speaker 1: really going to draw a line in the sand here

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to get it out there as to

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Speaker 1: how I feel about Indiana and that process. And it's

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Speaker 1: all of these insecurities, all of these frustrations, all of

446
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Speaker 1: these things boiled over once finally the power was put

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Speaker 1: in his hands through that negotiating process, and I think

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Speaker 1: all the things that he had previously just stored away

449
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Speaker 1: and locked away in the back of his mind and

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Speaker 1: played through all came out in one fell swoop, and

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Speaker 1: the frustration and the insecurity and the anger, all of

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Speaker 1: it came out. And then he realizes, Oh gosh, like

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Speaker 1: I think fans think I mean them there, That's not

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about at all. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: the Pacers were wrong, per se. I don't think Miles

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Speaker 1: Turner's wrong, per se. But he is trying to walk

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Speaker 1: it back a little bit, and we saw it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of negotiations, in terms of lines in

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Speaker 1: the sand, I think a little bit bit of that

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Speaker 1: is taking place, and in particular with one player here

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Speaker 1: in Central Indiana on a national and global standpoint in

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Speaker 1: terms of power of positioning and the attempt at leverage

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Speaker 1: in business. And there's one player here in Central Indiana

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Speaker 1: that has kind of found themselves right in the middle

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Speaker 1: of all of it. And it may get even murkier

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Speaker 1: and uglier. And I'll explain what I'm talking about. Big

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Speaker 1: show lined up for you today when we come back,

468
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Speaker 1: I will do that. Matt verderra Am going to join

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Speaker 1: us one o'clock today. JT the Brick, who does Raiders

470
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Speaker 1: Radio and is out in Las Vegas, the national radio host,

471
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Speaker 1: going to join us at two o'clock today. Matt Taylor,

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Colts at two thirty. So a big

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Speaker 1: show lined up for you on this Thursday, a glorious

474
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Speaker 1: looking Thursday. But unlike those things we're talking about, we're

475
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Speaker 1: not backpedaling. We're looking forward. And I'm going to prognosticate

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Speaker 1: with one player in this town that might find themselves

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a big brew. Haha. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you about it next. You just heard J and V

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Speaker 1: talking about this, and this is something that initially, you know,

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Speaker 1: your ears perked up. And as we've gone along here,

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Speaker 1: it's become a bigger and bigger story. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's about to become a massive not that it's not

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Speaker 1: already story. And let me explain what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: The big headlines came out and I can't recall my

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Speaker 1: days all run together, but it was was it Monday

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Speaker 1: or Tuesday when Nefisa Collier basically called a press conference

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Speaker 1: to express her concerns about the leadership of the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: It was I think it was Monday. Monday sounds right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was at her exit interview. That's how she started

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Speaker 2: her exit.

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Speaker 1: Interview, and so she voiced her concerns about leadership with

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Speaker 1: the w NBA, and in doing so, roped in the

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Speaker 1: biggest star in the w NBA. This is Nefisa Callier

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Speaker 1: talking about her concerns with Katy Engelbert, who is the

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Speaker 1: commissioner of the WNBA and the leadership of the league

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Speaker 1: itself at Unrivaled.

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Speaker 5: This past February, I sat across from Kathy and asked

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Speaker 5: how she planned to address the officiating issues in our league.

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Speaker 5: Her response was, well, only the losers complain about the refs.

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Speaker 5: I also asked how she plan to fix the fact

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Speaker 5: that players like Caitlin Angel and Page, who are clearly

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Speaker 5: driving massive revenue for the league, are making so little

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Speaker 5: for their first four years. Her response was, Caitlyn should

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Speaker 5: be grateful she makes sixty million off the court, because

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Speaker 5: without the platform that the WNBA gives her, she wouldn't

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Speaker 5: make anything. And in that same conversation, she told me

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Speaker 5: players should be on their knees thanking they're lucky stars

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Speaker 5: for the media right steal that I got them.

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Speaker 1: Now Caitlyn Clark has addressed this today, okay. And Kaitlyn

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Speaker 1: Clark is one that, for the most part, I think

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Speaker 1: kind of stays out of things, if you will, right,

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Speaker 1: and just you don't hear a lot into it. We

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Speaker 1: don't hear a lot from her in general. But she's

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Speaker 1: been hurt, so I mean, you know, I get that

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Speaker 1: aspect of it. Okay, But Caitlyn Clark said the following quote.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I have great respect for Fee that

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Speaker 1: would be caller obviously back to the quote, and I

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Speaker 1: think she might have made a lot of very valid points.

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Speaker 1: More people need to understand we need great leadership in

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Speaker 1: this time across all levels. This is straight up the

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Speaker 1: most important moment in this league's history. This league's been

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Speaker 1: around for twenty five plus years, and this is a

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Speaker 1: moment we have to capitalize on. So that's honestly what

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Speaker 1: I would say. Be said it all with what she said,

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Speaker 1: and the points she made were very valid. End quote

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Speaker 1: from Kaitlin Clark. What they're referring to is this, and

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Speaker 1: what I think we're seeing and hearing is the following

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Speaker 1: the WNBA, which, as Caitlin Clark just mentioned, there began

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Speaker 1: twenty five years ago and the WNBA right now is

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Speaker 1: at its peak popularity. And for that reason, the collective

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Speaker 1: Bargaining Agreement that was agreed upon in terms of all

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Speaker 1: of the things that a player for the WNBA gets

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Speaker 1: in terms of revenue share and you know, salaries improved benefits, childcare,

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Speaker 1: maternity leave, all of those things, travel standards, all of

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Speaker 1: those things that were agreed upon were set to expire

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Speaker 1: at the end of twenty twenty seven, but there was

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Speaker 1: a clause within that collective bargaining agreement that the players

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Speaker 1: could opt out of it and renegotiate it by the

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Speaker 1: deadline of October thirty first of this year. What you

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Speaker 1: are seeing is a power play between the commissioner of

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Speaker 1: the WNBA and the players themselves. And while it is

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Speaker 1: easy to sit back, and especially in a league in

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Speaker 1: where we, as a general rule, are not, there's really

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Speaker 1: only one league, maybe two where we do like daily

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Speaker 1: play by play analysis of collective bargaining negotiations, and that's

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Speaker 1: the NFL. In the NBA, those are the two because

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Speaker 1: of the television dollars that pour into that and the

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Speaker 1: way that it's divvied up and the way it impacts

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Speaker 1: salaries and salary cap windows. I mean, you look at,

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Speaker 1: for example, Lance Stevenson, when Lance Stevenson was leaving Indiana

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Speaker 1: after his rookie deal, and everybody thought he was a

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Speaker 1: moron for going to Charlotte and taking a contract that

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Speaker 1: paid him less than what he was being offered in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: But what everybody was saying was or overlooking was he

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Speaker 1: opted for a four year contract instead of a five

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Speaker 1: year contract, even though the average annual salary was less.

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Speaker 1: He wanted the four years because his agent was able

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Speaker 1: to look at it and say, the new collective bargaining

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Speaker 1: agreement is going to take place in that year of

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Speaker 1: free agency, and when that happens, that's the year when

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Speaker 1: everybody just goes out and starts spending money galore because

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Speaker 1: the salary cap raises so much. You want to be

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Speaker 1: in that window and take advantage in that particular year. Now,

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Speaker 1: Stevenson gambled on himself and lost because he didn't play

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Speaker 1: as well, but that's why he was going with that

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Speaker 1: shorter contract because he wanted to cash in in that

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Speaker 1: year when the TV money kicked in. And the WNBA

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Speaker 1: right now is going through that exact thing where the

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Speaker 1: players are saying, look, we need better than this, because

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Speaker 1: we are the ones that have raised the standard here.

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Speaker 1: And I understand. I'm not saying I agree with. I

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Speaker 1: understand where the commissioner is coming from because it is

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Speaker 1: her job as the commissioner to speak essentially as the representative,

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Speaker 1: as the bad guy as the bad deliverer and message

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Speaker 1: stater for the owners of the league itself, and so

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Speaker 1: therefore they are saying, look, if these players are wanting

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Speaker 1: higher salary, if these players are wanting a bigger slice

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Speaker 1: of the pie, like, we've got to start making it

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Speaker 1: clear now where we stand in this new negotiation that

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Speaker 1: we're about to go through, and both sides are giving

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Speaker 1: their firm line Nope, I'm going to sell this car.

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Speaker 1: I can't budge over thirty eight grand I need for

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Speaker 1: this car. No I want to pay I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to pay over thirty Okay, let's meet somewhere in the middle.

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Speaker 1: We're in the beginning. It gets real nasty, and it

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Speaker 1: may still and in terms of the standpoint of Kaitlyn Clark,

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Speaker 1: and she better be happy. She's making sixty million off

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Speaker 1: the court and she wouldn't make that if it weren't

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Speaker 1: for the WNBA exactly. I mean, that is the most

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Speaker 1: laughable thing ever issues so ignorant Caitlin Clark. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, Eddie, It's not ignorant because what it

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Speaker 1: is is its negotiation. I don't think she believes that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Kathy Engelbert believes that in one way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form. But as the commissioner of the WNBA,

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Speaker 1: and I'm again I want to be very clear here,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I agree with her. I'm saying her

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Speaker 1: job is to present the hardline stance of from the

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Speaker 1: owners and the league standpoint of making sure that they

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Speaker 1: don't all of a sudden completely give in to every

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Speaker 1: player demand throughout this negotiation. That's her job. The job

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Speaker 1: of the players then, of course, is to say no,

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Speaker 1: we want this because this is what we're bringing you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was an ignorant thing to take it. I don't

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Speaker 1: think she believes it is what I'm getting at, But

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Speaker 1: she's throwing that out there because she's trying to draw

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Speaker 1: that line in the sand of this collective bargaining agreement

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Speaker 1: that is about to be retooled with a Halloween deadline.

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Speaker 1: And so you play hardball to begin with. And look,

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Speaker 1: and if he's a collier, was whether it was her

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Speaker 1: own initiation, whether the other players went to her and said,

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Speaker 1: can you be the one to speak up for us?

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Speaker 1: Whatever it may be, She's the one drawing that line

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Speaker 1: in the sand on the other side of things, And

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark is because she is the straw that mixes

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Speaker 1: the drink of the WNBA in every aspect. You know,

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Speaker 1: there are great players in the WNBA, but Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 1: is the most transcendent. Caitlin Clark is the name that

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Speaker 1: if you are somebody living in Cheyenne, Wyoming, or Jacksonville, Florida,

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Speaker 1: or you know, Augusta, Maine, she's the player in the

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Speaker 1: w Hey are you familiar with the WNBA A. I

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Speaker 1: think that's the Women's league, right does Caitlyn Clark playing that?

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Speaker 1: She's the transendate one, So her name is automatically going

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Speaker 1: to get attached into it because what comes with the

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00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: benefit of being all of that money that you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: She Engelbert is correct in that regard, in the fact

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Speaker 1: that when it comes to the w NBA, she is

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Speaker 1: synonymous with that platform. But Caitlin Clark would be synonymous

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Speaker 1: with whatever league she's playing in right now because of

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Speaker 1: the fact that she that began in Iowa. I know

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Speaker 1: this because I sat during an IndyCar. I'll never during

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Speaker 1: an IndyCar weekend. I sat one time in my hotel

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Speaker 1: room and for two and a half hours to watch

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Speaker 1: nothing but the women's Final four, because I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: can't believe what this girl I was doing. I mean,

635
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: she's going by her back pulling up Steph Curry threes.

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Speaker 1: And my dad's texting my sister and a group family

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00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: text about it, like and my dad's you know, all

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00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: about Kaitlyn Clark, and people are all about Kitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and do you remember Eddie when Kaitlyn Clark

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Speaker 1: when it was finally determined that she was going to

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Speaker 1: forego her eligibility and going to the WNBA Draft and

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Speaker 1: the Fever had the number one pick. We were at

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Speaker 1: the combine. I think Matt Verderraim is going to join

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Speaker 1: us here in about fifteen minutes. Was with us that day,

645
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Speaker 1: and our lead conversation the whole time was the fact

646
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Speaker 1: that Caitlin Clark was coming to Indiana and this was

647
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: during the NFL Draft combine because she she was that

648
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: big a transcendence star in college, so that money was

649
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: going to follow her wherever she was going to go.

650
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: She could be playing right now professional basketball in Australia

651
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Speaker 1: and there would be TV contracts here for people to

652
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Speaker 1: see it because she's that transcendent the star. But what

653
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: you're seeing here is that transcendence attaches her to an

654
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Speaker 1: argument from both sides, and she's kind of caught in

655
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Speaker 1: the middle of it and now comes out and says,

656
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Speaker 1: you know, hey, I'm glad that Callier did said what

657
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: I would have said, and she's probably grateful that there

658
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: is a player keeping that platform. But what you are

659
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: seeing here is the beginning of what is going to

660
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: be a month long power play in a collective bargaining agreement.

661
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Speaker 1: And the keyword of that is agreement. And that's what's

662
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: going to be probably continuing to be a back and

663
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: forth here over the next couple of weeks, and then

664
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Speaker 1: eventually they will have a new agreement. There will be

665
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Speaker 1: some sort of, you know, an improvement, whether it be

666
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Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars, I don't know about that,

667
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Speaker 1: but there's going to be an improvement in the situation

668
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: the players are looking for. There will be something that

669
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Speaker 1: appeases what the owners are looking for, and then everybody

670
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: will do essentially a Miles Turner on this walk back

671
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Speaker 1: Thursday and say, you know what, actually, let's clarify what

672
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Speaker 1: we meant, and boom, you come to a retirement of

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Speaker 1: that particular story. Verde Ram joins us in fifteen. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Eddie, by the way, do you happen to

675
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Speaker 1: have the breaking news sounder? It will be on Monday

676
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Speaker 1: when we tell you exactly who, because we are still

677
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Speaker 1: waiting the ink to dry, if you will, we're dotting

678
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Speaker 1: the i's and crossing the t's.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what he's in q's. Is that what we're doing?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what that stands for?

681
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Speaker 2: By the way, I don't. I was just referring Anthony

682
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Speaker 2: Richardsindia being on his p's and q's.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what that comes from? I believe I've

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Speaker 1: this is my favorite fun fact. Okay, mind your p's

685
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Speaker 1: and q's. Do you know the origin of that phrase? No?

686
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: I believe I've mentioned it on the air before, but

687
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Speaker 1: you probably were. You've bet on the iced tea or

688
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: the the Mister t starter kit today. By the way,

689
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Speaker 1: I do a couple of you got a couple of

690
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Speaker 1: big necklaces hanging out. Thanks, but you probably pity the

691
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Speaker 1: fool when I was talking about my p's and q's

692
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Speaker 1: and my favorite fun fact. So I'll get to that

693
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Speaker 1: in a second in terms of the origin of it,

694
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: because it is a fun thing. But will probably officially

695
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Speaker 1: be able to announce this on Monday. But I am

696
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Speaker 1: thrilled about this is thrilled.

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00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: Soon to be sponsored. Is it the soon to be

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Speaker 2: sponsored guest line.

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Speaker 1: Or the guest line in fact? The guest line in

700
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Speaker 1: fact is going to again be sponsored. And this is

701
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Speaker 1: why I'm thrilled about it.

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Speaker 2: L FGJ. I hope you know what those stand for.

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Speaker 1: I do, I indeed do right. That means this is

704
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Speaker 1: legitimately freaking good, right, Yeah, I am thrilled about. I'm

705
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: thrilled at anytime that we have companies that are willing to

706
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Speaker 1: partner with this show. And you know, Chicago's Pizza. I

707
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: love the folks at Chicago's Pizza are great, right, great

708
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Speaker 1: folks surf side right yep. Premiere Weight Loss, How to

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Speaker 1: Search Side last night Franciscan, Franciscan has you know, they're

710
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Speaker 1: they're wonderful. I mean that the fact Franciscan and Premier

711
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Speaker 1: Weight Lost both you know, trusting me to get the

712
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Speaker 1: word out about good health for people. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: happy about all of it, right, Indiana Donor Network, We've

714
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: we've done a lot with so anytime, and and the

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Speaker 1: people that have been kind enough to get on board

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00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: with us in the past. Love Love, Love and Air

717
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: is another one, right, Ryan, guys, you know was great

718
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Speaker 1: to us during the course of the time that we

719
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Speaker 1: were on Greenfield Signs them Greenfield Signs. So We've had

720
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Speaker 1: plenty who and I'm appreciative and thankful for all of it.

721
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Speaker 1: This one I'm particular excited, particularly excited about because of

722
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Speaker 1: two things. Number One, it's a product I love. It

723
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: is a product that I love and we love and

724
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: Eddie does as well. And number two, it combines really

725
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: two of my passions. One of my passions is, you know,

726
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: just being able and being four fortunate enough to talk

727
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: to people and interact with people and engage with people

728
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: on this radio show each day. And you know, look,

729
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: do I at times? Do I ruffle? I don't try

730
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: to do this I'm saying, I'm understanding of the fact

731
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: that not every opinion I have everyone's going to agree with.

732
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: I understand the fact that there are probably a lot

733
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Speaker 1: of people that don't at times get tired of me

734
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Speaker 1: or don't let me I get it right. But at

735
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Speaker 1: its core, I do appreciate and love being able to

736
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Speaker 1: interact with people and share experiences of the things that

737
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: we do on the radio show, off the radio show.

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Speaker 1: The other of my passions is, of course, the fact

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00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: that I travel around with IndyCar and I love, love,

740
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Speaker 1: love the Indianapolis five hundred and IndyCar racing in general,

741
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Speaker 1: but the five hundred and the Speedway, I think everybody

742
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: knows mean everything to me. So to be able to

743
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: combine really those two passions, being able to speak with

744
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: and interview people on the guest Line and being able

745
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Speaker 1: to do so with a company that also understands and

746
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: is equally involved in my racing, I love it, and

747
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: that's why I am totally stoked and cannot wait for

748
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: when we officially announce. I believe on Monday who the

749
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: guest Line sponsor is, but I it's a product and

750
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: a company that I love, the people, I love the product.

751
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled about it. And that's been true of everything

752
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: we've done, but this one, I'm very excited.

753
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: Now, Jake, what is your passion in your overall enjoyment

754
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: and love with working for me rank or with me

755
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: not for me?

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00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm happy that the other two things

757
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: were able to have, right in terms of you're.

758
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: Not happy to be able to have me as your

759
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: producer every day, no, and as your president of your company.

760
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: I listen, I am thrilled that you're the president of

761
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: the company and I'm in particularly thrilled about it because

762
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: you do all of the legwork, in the behind the

763
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: scenes stuff, which means I don't have to do much.

764
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Speaker 1: So in that regard, I hope the bosses didn't hear that.

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate that. By the way, mining your p's

766
00:43:55,160 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: and q's, I've mentioned this before. You know what that

767
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: comes down to. That comes down to the olden days.

768
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: In like mind, your manners or whatever.

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00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: Very similar in the old days in England. I believe

770
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: it's England. It might be either explain this in your

771
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: English accent, with old Man English accent, or just regular

772
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: British acas whatever you're feeling, Jake. So in the old days,

773
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Speaker 1: when you'd go into a pub, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it was Ireland, Scotland or England. I think England, you

775
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: would order, you know, I took a point please, or yes,

776
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Speaker 1: actually there's a couple of it. I took a court

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Speaker 1: and so they would write on they would have like

778
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Speaker 1: a chalkboard and they'd put eddie and they would mark

779
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: down whether you had a pint or a court, and

780
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: then if you had too many of them, and all

781
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're like, I have there you let's

782
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: go out saw a fight, and all of a sudden

783
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: you're starting fights and start in trouble. They would come

784
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: to you and say, listen, we told you already you've

785
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: been having a bit too much of the gronk, and

786
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: as a result, you're going to have to mind. We're

787
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: looking at it right here. Mind your pays and cues.

788
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: You're drinking too many of them, and so minding your

789
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: p's and q's was simply a reminder that make sure

790
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: that you don't get overserved and cause trouble. So mind

791
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: how many pints and courts you've had. How about them apples.

792
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: Matt Verdoran, by the way, drinks his p's and q's

793
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: at Club Apple, Bee's, Hey, and the Taco Bell CANTEENA

794
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: joins us next. So I just actually got a text

795
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: from somebody trying to guess the sponsor of the guest line.

796
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: It's pretty good guests, pretty solid guests. They said you

797
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: should do a contest, and I thought, you know what,

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Speaker 1: it actually would be kind of cool. To do a

799
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Speaker 1: contest where the winner of the contest, but then again,

800
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it would have to tie in with

801
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: the sponsor of the guest line, and I thought, you

802
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: know what, We'll just build up the suspense and leave

803
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: it at that, because then it becomes very convoluted. But

804
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: it was a solid guests on who the guest line

805
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: will be. The guest line is where we anticipate talking

806
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Speaker 1: with Matt verde Am coming up just a couple of minutes. Yesterday. Actually,

807
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Speaker 1: I did some radio in Lost Wages better known as

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas with JT. The Brick, who, of course a

809
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: national radio host and he is based out of Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: He does he is the Eddie Garrison of the Fever

811
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Speaker 1: to the Raiders. In other words, he does like pre

812
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: and postgame stuff with the Raiders broadcasts, does a lot

813
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll. I think he hosts the Pete Carroll

814
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: Show as well. And one of the things in talking

815
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Speaker 1: to him, and he's going to join us in about

816
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Speaker 1: an hour is JT. The Brick will go over the

817
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: Raiders stuff and one of the things we're going to

818
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: talk about is just the fact that I'm gonna say

819
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say uncharacteristically, but maybe reverting back to old ways.

820
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: And maybe part of it, and this is what I'll

821
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: ask JT the brick, you know, maybe part of it

822
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Speaker 1: is they are schematically doing things the wrong way, drawing

823
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: things up for him. But the Raiders, now Geno Smith

824
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: is starting to turn the ball over a little bit.

825
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: Two things. Yes, Number one, he's second in the league

826
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Speaker 2: in interceptions, and Matt Verderam had an emergency and he

827
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Speaker 2: cannot join us.

828
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Speaker 1: Okay, certainly, hope everything's all right for Matt. Now the

829
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Speaker 1: I thought about this in that discussion with JT yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders and the interceptions from Geno Smith combined with

831
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Speaker 1: the fact that I, you know, I saw a lot

832
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Speaker 1: of discussion about, for example, the Ravens and the Ravens offensively,

833
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: we know, you know, have a lot of weapons, and

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Speaker 1: I think the world of Derrick Henry, I mean I

835
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Speaker 1: think I just I am. Derrick Henry could be fifty

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Speaker 1: three years old and I would be convinced that he

837
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: could still go out and run. I'm sure people felt

838
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: the same way about Jim Brown. You know, the old

839
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: joke it's now been used about you know, every single

840
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: player But the initial player that this was attributed to

841
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: was the late great Jim Brown. Allegedly when he was

842
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: being interviewed when he was forty five years old or whatever,

843
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: and somebody said how many yards can you run for today?

844
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 1: And he said I could probably average four yards of carry?

845
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: And they're like, really, like you think so the league

846
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, has changed that much or whatever, and he said, well,

847
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, keep in mind I'm forty five,

848
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Speaker 1: meaning like no, no, no, we don't mean like what

849
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: you would do today as a forty five year old guy.

850
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: I do believe Derrick Henry. I'm just convinced of it.

851
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like ageless, right. But the Ravens with

852
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, and even with his yards per carry average,

853
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: I saw an entire discussion about the limited number of

854
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: times that Derrick Henry carries the ball on first and

855
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: second down and they are essentially reserving him as a

856
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: third down back. And why are they doing that because

857
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: the Ravens offense, see, you know, it is not as

858
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: efficient on first and second down, and why would you

859
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: not go earlier with what works for you? Now, you

860
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: could make the argument or the discussion that the reason

861
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's average is what it is is because he's

862
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: not being you know, in other words, well, they're not

863
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: very efficient on first and second down, and yet Derrick

864
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: Henry is averaging blank yards per carry. Well, that is

865
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: like the nerdiest thing you've ever heard. You say, Jake, No,

866
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying. I think when you crunch

867
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: those numbers and look at it, then you can figure out. Okay,

868
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: perhaps that's because the Ravens are throwing the ball so

869
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: often on first and second down. Because the point is this,

870
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: when he does carry the ball on first and second down,

871
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: they're like sixth in the league on efficiency on those plays.

872
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: Ok So why wouldn't they do it more well? Because

873
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: the more you do it, the more that number gets shrunk.

874
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: In other words, when first off, people are gonna start

875
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: loading the box. If you do that a lot right

876
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: as it is right now, they're dropping back because they know.

877
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: And so when he does sparingly carry on first and

878
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: second down, it's like, wow, why don't they do this

879
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: more well? Because once you start doing it more then

880
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: defenses start to counter for it. And to use my phrase,

881
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: water finds its level, right, I mean equilibrium I think

882
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: is that yeah, so it can be convoluted. But if

883
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: you decipher those aspects of the Ravens, or you look

884
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: at Geno Smith and turning the ball over for the Raiders.

885
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: The thing that essentially, as I was thinking about and

886
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: analyzing all this is the thing that the Colts have

887
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: done really well to this point is Shane Stikeen. And

888
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't know whether it's Shane Steichen doing this for

889
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, or whether it's Daniel Jones's skill set allows

890
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: it for Shane Steichen, but the Colts are calling games

891
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: and running it an offense that caters towards what they

892
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: do best, and the Colts in doing that are able.

893
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: And I know that he had the two picks on Sunday,

894
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: and we're going to see whether or not that that's

895
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: the anomaly or whether they're starting to trend that way

896
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: in the first couple of weeks with the anomaly when

897
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: the Colts were so offensively efficient. But it feels to

898
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: me like what we are seeing is an offense that

899
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: is being designed spelled out. And this would certainly you

900
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: would assume be true of every team in the league.

901
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 1: But it's being designed and spelled out and written out

902
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: and game planned to suit the strength of its quarterback

903
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: and stay away from its weakness as an offense. And

904
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: you could say to yourself, well, Jake, every team does that.

905
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: But if you are the Bills, if you are the Chiefs,

906
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: if you are the Bengals when Joe Burrow's healthy, I

907
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: don't know that you are as technical in your offensive

908
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: playbook calling Because you feel like you have quarterbacks with

909
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: no governor on them, you can just let it go

910
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: and whatever play you call, you got a chance. The

911
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: play is going to work. Whether you want Josh Allen

912
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: to air it out, whether you want Josh Allen to

913
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, do a quarterback draw, whether you want Patrick

914
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: Mahomes to find guys in space or go through all

915
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: his reads, or then, you know, whatever it might be.

916
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: Whether you want Joe Burrow just that precision with all

917
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: the weapons he's got. Those guys you can call about anything.

918
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: But are the Colts now offensively benefiting from the fact

919
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: that they have a quarterback and Shane Steichen selected the

920
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: quarterback that does have a governor limited audit, and that

921
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: forces them to be more selective and more analytical in

922
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: the plays that they're calling, and thus more efficient, and

923
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: they have. The Colts as an offense, have multiple weapons,

924
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: probably underrated weapons. I think offensively they are better than

925
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: their given credit. And it all starts, truthfully with Tyler

926
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: Warren a year ago, two years ago there and you've

927
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: heard me say this a lot, I realize, but their

928
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: bailout play, their safety net play, was either find Michael

929
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: Pittman for ten yards over the middle because he's a

930
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: big target and he's reliable and he's durable with a

931
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: hurt back. I mean there's a lot of warrior, there's

932
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: a lot of dog in Michael Pittman. That was one

933
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: and the other was Josh Downs Like okay, Josh Jowns

934
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: is just floating around somewhere, like drop it off to him.

935
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: Those were kind of their two bailout plays. Now they

936
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: have the bailout play is right there, and Tyler Warren

937
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: is not bailout. I mean they're designing things to him,

938
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: but you know when all hell breaks loose, that that's

939
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: a guy that you can get to as your bailout

940
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: player if but there are more players now, they just

941
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: have more weapons. Part of that too is they are

942
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: utilizing Jonathan Taylor in different ways. They're actually getting him

943
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield through the air more

944
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: than they used to. They have Pittman in the areas

945
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: where he's at his best. They have downs who at

946
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: times they get involved. Adie Mitchell, We've gone over that.

947
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: But he is somebody that they've incorporated. Ashton Doolan when

948
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: he's on the field, they've incorporated and Alec Pierce they're

949
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: using in different ways. Now, how much of that, again,

950
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 1: is because they this is the strength to Daniel Jones.

951
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: And how much of that is because we have to

952
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: be selective in the way that we that we spell

953
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: this out. But it all starts with Tyler Warren and

954
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: the fact that defenses have to be aware of where

955
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: he is at all times, and that allows you to

956
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: get into different areas more easily and more efficiently. And

957
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: Andy I've talked like, let's look at the Pacers. Okay, okay,

958
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: if you look at the Pacers offense when it's a

959
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: different offense when Tyree's Halliburton is healthy versus say when

960
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: andrawd Imhardt's running the point, would you agree, agreed?

961
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

962
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: Now, when Halliburton is healthy, that offense is go down fast, pace,

963
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: score quickly, get an open three or then kick back

964
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: and when Myles Turner was out there, gets it the

965
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: top on the threat whatever, and then they run that

966
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: kind of weave rotation where you know, whether it be

967
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: Nie Smith or Nim Hart or even Topping, you know

968
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: they all can hit from the outside or you go

969
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: down to Siako on the block right, and so you

970
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: are constantly working to get the ball where it needs

971
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: to go. But when Halliburton's on the floor, you're basically

972
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, You're basically Mahomes. You're like, we can play

973
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: at pace, we can go and if we need to

974
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: slow it down into a half court set, that's fine,

975
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: but we have flexibility. And when this year, for example,

976
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: and I know Aaron Nismith said they're still going to

977
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: try to play at pace, but Rick Carlisle has essentially

978
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: said or insinuated that they are going to go into

979
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: more half court sets with more regularity than what we

980
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: were accustomed to a year ago. And that's an offense

981
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones, you have to be more intentional in

982
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Now. My question for you, Eddie is

983
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: when you look at the lack of turnovers and the

984
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: offensive efficiency that we saw out of Indianapolis in the

985
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: first three games. Is that because oh wow, Daniel Jones

986
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: is this super smart, efficient quarterback? Or is that because

987
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen was saying, I'm picking this guy because he

988
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: allows me to be more intentional and conservative in the

989
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,959
Speaker 1: way I'm calling plays, So I am calling them more

990
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: strictly to suit his strengths and stay away and mask

991
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: his weakness.

992
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of both, because the

993
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: one thing that we always talked about as a weakness

994
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: for Daniel Jones going into the start of the season

995
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: was he just doesn't push the ball deep, and he's

996
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: been doing that. That's why the offense has been so efficient,

997
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: is all the defenses have been playing him as trying

998
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: to take away what's underneath.

999
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: Which, again that goes back to Warren a lot, right, Yeah,

1000
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: because you got to keep an eye on.

1001
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 2: And so like that's why you see it shots Dlek Pierce.

1002
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 2: That's why you've seen a deep shot to Michael Hitman Junior.

1003
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: That's why you've seen a mixed deep shot in there

1004
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: for Tyler Warren and how teams respond Now they have

1005
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: to honor it and it's going to open up things

1006
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: underneath for Josh Downs, Tyler Warren, Jonathan Taylor, who's been

1007
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: a big part of the passing game this year, and

1008
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: it'll help him in the run game as well. So

1009
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: I think it's all encompassing a part of Shane Styke

1010
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: and doing what works for Daniel Jones while also putting

1011
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: the playmakers around Daniel Jones in the position to succeed

1012
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: as well.

1013
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: So let me throw you this kind of weird theory, okay,

1014
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: and tell me if it makes sense. Which is a

1015
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: dangerous thing. When I'm about to say something, right, I

1016
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: realize like sometimes, yeah, you know, there are rabbit holes

1017
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: with my brain. I get that.

1018
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: No, they're not rabbit holes, they're creators.

1019
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. Is it possible that the reason Shane Styken

1020
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: opted for Daniel Jones and I know that he says

1021
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: it's it's organizational, And he keeps going back to the

1022
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken keeps going back to with with any player

1023
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: that he's talking about, he keeps going back to the

1024
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: narrative of you know, hey, it's about what takes place

1025
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: in the building, It's about what takes place in the

1026
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: film room.

1027
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 6: You know.

1028
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: He said it at the receiver position this week about

1029
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: Adie Mitchell, And yesterday somebody got on me. They're like,

1030
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: why are we bringing up the Ady Mitchell story again.

1031
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're bringing it up again because it's topical

1032
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: again because the head coach has now admitted to or

1033
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: tipped his hand to the fact that this guy may

1034
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: be losing reps because of what happened in Los Angeles.

1035
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: And he kept going back to the part about organizationally,

1036
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: professionally approach all of those things. But is it possible

1037
00:59:53,960 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: that Shane Steiken selected Daniel Jones in the quarterback competition

1038
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: over Anthony Richardson not necessarily and entirely because of all

1039
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: of those things, but rather because he, meaning Shane Stikeen

1040
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: knows that Anthony Richardson wouldn't tempt him too much. What

1041
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: do you mean, Anthony Richardson's strength as a quarterback is

1042
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: the long ball and the athleticism. Shane Stiken's strength as

1043
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: a coach is awakening things in a quarterback and being

1044
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: unpredictable in terms of offensive play calling. But is it

1045
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: possible that Shane Styken looked at Anthony Richardson and knew

1046
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: and I mean this in a strong suit about Shane

1047
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: Stykeen not as an indictment on him. But did Shane

1048
01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: Stiken as a coach look at it and say, I

1049
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: have to trust my own instinct, and when it comes

1050
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: to Anthony Richardson, I don't. And when I have him

1051
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: on the field, I become too tempted and I fall

1052
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 1: too much in love with the exceptions and the excitement

1053
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: as opposed to the norm of what is efficient. And

1054
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: if I have Anthony Richardson as my quarterback, I'm going

1055
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: to be too tantalized by the sixty three yard pass

1056
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: play or the quarterback draw. And that's not the efficiency

1057
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: by which I want to run my offense. And now

1058
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: that I have Tyler Warren, and now that I have

1059
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: a healthy Michael Pittman, and now that I have Jonathan

1060
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: Taylor that I'm going to work with in past plays

1061
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, I need things to be more simplified.

1062
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: And if I have Anthony Richardson on the field, I'm

1063
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: going to complicate them because I myself as a play caller,

1064
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to be tantalized by the potential of the

1065
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: big play and not keeping myself self limited to what

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01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: is efficient and more simplistic. And as long as I

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01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: have Daniel Jones as my quarterback. I know my own limitation,

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01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: and thus I'm going to call a smarter.

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01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: Game probably, And he keeps going back to, you know,

1070
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: the operation of seeing everything and like how much did

1071
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: that the failed Bullitz pick up impact it?

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01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: Like did he just it's got to be huge, Eddie.

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01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: It just felt like that even from that, even before that, Jake,

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01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: that the thought was that Daniel Jones was going to

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01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: be the starter and and Anthony Richinson had to prove

1076
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: that he was, you know, ready to be the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I saw it the other way around, though, in all honesty,

1078
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: and I know that you know clearly now I was wrong.

1079
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: But I really did think, and I think most people

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01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: did that when they signed Daniel Jones, that it was

1081
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: still and I remember saying this, I said it repeatedly

1082
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: on this show. I said, if Daniel Jones is the

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01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: starter week one, it's not mean to be because he

1084
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: won the job. It's because Anthony Richardson didn't. Because I

1085
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 1: felt like their default all along was going to be

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01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: the guy that they selected where they did, and that

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01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: they were still trying to tap into that youth of

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01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. But but I really do think that the

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01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: that Shane Stiken, the more he saw Daniel Jones didn't

1090
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: do anything to blow anybody away in the preseason exactly.

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01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: He didn't do anything to blow anyone away. But he

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01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: didn't do anything to blow it away. Correct that that's

1093
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 2: great to blow it up, right, Yeah? And I think

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Speaker 2: I just think the more the more he saw it,

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01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: the more Shane Stiken thought to himself, you know what

1096
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:52,919
Speaker 2: slow and steady wins the race? You know, to use

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01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: a really bad analogy? Do I need to have the

1098
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 2: sound already?

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Speaker 1: I'll let you when I once I say the analogy.

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01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: If it's a really bad one, Eddie, I will let

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01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: you use the fish vacuum cleaner, bad analogy sounder? Okay,

1102
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: But when I was a kid bay back in my day,

1103
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: but years ago, in the Indianapolis five hundred mile race,

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01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: Buick was an engine manufacturer that was entered in the

1105
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: race predominantly in the late eighties, and Buick was unbelievably fast.

1106
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: The Buick engine had this horse power that was unbelievable,

1107
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: and Jim Crawford ran a Buick and Roberto Guerrero set

1108
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: a poll record in the Buick and the Buick. You

1109
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: knew the Buick engine was flat out fast, but it

1110
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: never lasted five hundred miles until Allenser Senior did it

1111
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: once the anomaly in nineteen ninety two. He went all

1112
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: five hundred miles in the race in his Buick engine.

1113
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: But the reason that initially teams bought into the Buick

1114
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: because they're like, the straight line speed of this thing

1115
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: is unbelievable, and its ability to pass is unbelievable. But

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01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: as time went on they realized, but it's less reliable

1117
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: than an Illmore engine or one of the others that

1118
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: we can have to put inside of our car and

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01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: lat because in order to win the race, you've got

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01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: to finish the race, and you've got to be there,

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01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: and you can't have mistakes that happen like an engine

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01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: going out, an engine failure, or something that leads to

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Speaker 1: a long pit stop over the course of time, because

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01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: while it might be sexier and it might be faster,

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01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: and it might jump out at you in terms of

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01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: the speed chart over the course of five hundred miles,

1127
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: you've got to be able to go with what is

1128
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: more efficient and reliable. And so therefore nobody won the

1129
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: race in the Buick because people got away from it

1130
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: because they realized that it never lasted the entire totality

1131
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: of the way. And it seems to me like perhaps

1132
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: Shane Steiken realize that Anthony Richardson was the Buick engine, faster, stronger,

1133
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: pop out at you. For sure, all the intangibles on paper,

1134
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: but when it comes down to it, over the course

1135
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: in the totality of a four quarter game, little things

1136
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: pop up that either lead to a bad pit stop

1137
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: or completely self inflicted. Can't last all five hundred miles

1138
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: and you're having to go to a backup engine anyway.

1139
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: And Daniel Jones, I think Daniel Jones is a you

1140
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: didn't play the bad news or the bad analogy sounder?

1141
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: Does that mean you actually thought it was decent? Okay,

1142
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: thank you. I think Daniel Jones is a great story.

1143
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: Nothing against Anthony Richardson at all. But when I go

1144
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: to Colts games, and I'll do it on I'll do

1145
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: it on Sunday. When I go to the game, one

1146
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 1: of the things I look for is I look for

1147
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: what jerseys people are wearing when they walk in the stadium.

1148
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: And you can tell there are certain franchises, as we've

1149
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: talked about, that you're like, man, that franchise isn't a

1150
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: world hurt because everybody walking into that stadium is wearing

1151
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: a jersey of a guy that played fifteen years ago.

1152
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: And when I walk into Colts games now, I'll probably

1153
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: see some Shack Leonard jerseys on Sunday, fitting because he's

1154
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: going to have his retirement ceremony. But I'll probably see

1155
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: some Marvin Harrison jerseys and Reggie Wayne jerseys, and lord knows,

1156
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: you know a ton of Peyton Manning jerseys and Dallas

1157
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: Clark jerseys and Gary Brackett jerseys. Even more recently, dare

1158
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: I say it, maybe the occasional Andrew Luck jersey, Jack

1159
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: Doyle jersey, But what I have not seen necessarily is

1160
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: a Daniel Jones jersey. But Daniel Jones actually is probably

1161
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: the perfect jersey to wear if you are a fan

1162
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colts, because he kind of represents Indianapolis

1163
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: in general, and that is the fact that you know,

1164
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 1: just kind of know who you are. And one of

1165
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: the things about this town that I love is we

1166
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: know who we are. We're proud of it, but we

1167
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: know who we are, right And I think Shane Steichen

1168
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: looked at him and so far, it's worked, and the

1169
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: guy has been He doesn't say a lot. He's not

1170
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: an overly, he has a cop, but it's about him.

1171
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: I think he had to earn the trust of the

1172
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: rest of his teammates because he doesn't strike me as

1173
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: the kind of guy that is walking into a you know,

1174
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: operationally right. I don't think he's walking into a quarterback

1175
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: room like all right, fellas, let's go. I'm here, I'm

1176
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: the guy. I don't think. I think he just comes in,

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01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: does his job, gets there a little bit early, brings

1178
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: his playbook, knows it, and I think he earned the

1179
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: respect now of his teammates. And I think I think

1180
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: members of the cult really like Anthony Richardson as well.

1181
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I think he's a bad guy at all.

1182
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, there are probably some of

1183
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: them that with Daniel Jones, you know, they it took

1184
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: him a while to really trust him and understand who

1185
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: he was and what he's all about. It's kind of

1186
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 1: like something that happened to me in college. College is

1187
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: about learning life experience, which which time in college Jake,

1188
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: excellent question. Excellent question, or talking about the one where

1189
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: you just go situated like two years ago or the

1190
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: first time when you went to Kansas and then came

1191
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: back home went t Have you ever seen video of

1192
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: the Hindenburg disaster? No? Okay, well, I mean it's terrible

1193
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: because I think there were multiple fatalities, but it's the

1194
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the led Zeppelin logo? Yeah? Okay?

1195
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: The Hindenburg disaster very representative of my freshman year of

1196
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: college at the University of Kansas. But something did happen

1197
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: to me there that college is about life learning experiences,

1198
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 1: and I think I learned something and saw something that

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01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: allows me to better understand and appreciate the twenty twenty

1200
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: five Indianapolis Colts. So I'll explain what I'm talking about

1201
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor going to join us, coming up to thirty

1202
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: jt the Brick in thirty five minutes. But I will

1203
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: get into what that life lesson was and how it

1204
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: applies to Daniel Jones next. So this song, that's right,

1205
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: Brass Monkey, you hear us reference And by the way,

1206
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: Chicago's Pizza I said seventeen. I don't know what I think.

1207
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 1: It's eighteen Central and Dana locations. Eighteen of them, and

1208
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: every one of them is Awesome twenty five statewide and

1209
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: Eddie you mentioned earlier, Love Heating and air lovedashhvac dot

1210
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: com three one seven, three five three twenty one forty one.

1211
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: They sponsored the Crossover Chat with jamb and I and

1212
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: you hear us talk about them a lot on this

1213
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: radio station. I grew up with John and Chris and

1214
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: Chris Love in particular. Does if if anybody out there

1215
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: here my voice knows John or Chris Love in particular Chris,

1216
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: they're twins. He does the greatest dance to brass Monkey

1217
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: by the Beastie Boys that he invented in the eighth

1218
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: grade of all time. If you're ever around Chris John

1219
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: Love and just say look and put brass Monkey on

1220
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: your phone that song, and he will do the greatest

1221
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: dance you've ever seen. For what that's worth. So when

1222
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: I was in college, I was a freshman in college

1223
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: at the University of Kansas, and I went out when

1224
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: I was a senior in high school. And this was

1225
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: actually probably one of the biggest mistakes in my life.

1226
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: But again, college is about learning, right, It's about learning

1227
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: life lessons, it's about it's about so much more than

1228
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: the academics of it. I think the biggest thing you

1229
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: learn in college is just about people. But when I

1230
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: was a senior in high school and I went out

1231
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: to visit Kansas, I met a couple of guys that

1232
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: were part of a fraternity there and they're like, hey,

1233
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: do you want to You know, we want you in

1234
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: our fraternity. And so I thought, Okay, great, you know

1235
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 1: this is gonna be great. I can have friends right away.

1236
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: And so instead of organically going through what most kids

1237
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: do in college and living in the dorms, I went

1238
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,639
Speaker 1: immediately into it right away. When I when my parents

1239
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: dropped me off for college, I was living in a

1240
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: fraternity house. I was a pledge in the fight out

1241
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 1: to day of fraternity and so, and my parents now

1242
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: have told me that when they were driving away, they

1243
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: like were on I seventy before they'd even got into

1244
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: Kansas City, and I think both of them looked at

1245
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 1: each other and said, this is not going to go well.

1246
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: And I've always appreciated that, even though they knew that

1247
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: I had to go through that on my own. I

1248
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: had to learn that on my own. But when we

1249
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: were so I get there and as a pledge class,

1250
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 1: you know, we were there like two weeks before school

1251
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: before classes started, so we had to do all the

1252
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: things that you do when you were a pledge and apporternity.

1253
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: We're getting up every morning and cleaning the house and

1254
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: brass swing doorknobs and landscaping. I mean it was. It

1255
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: was brutal and the whole you know, I have no

1256
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: idea we can do a whole different talk show on

1257
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: what the purpose of those things are. But nonetheless, But

1258
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 1: so that was before the classes began, and then once

1259
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: school began, they added two members to our pledge class.

1260
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: So these two guys show up and our pledge class

1261
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: and we've now got to continue doing all the same stuff.

1262
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: But there's these two new guys that they're like, okay,

1263
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: these are your teammates. Now what So one day and

1264
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: like we hadn't had much sleep and whatever else. And

1265
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: I remember one day one of these two guys said

1266
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: or did something I didn't like whatever, and I completely

1267
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: snapped and I'm like, look, you know, I don't know

1268
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: who you think you are. But we've been in here

1269
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 1: toiling this whole time. We've been working hard, we've been

1270
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: doing all this stuff. We've had to go all through

1271
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: all this stuff for like a month before. You guys

1272
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: just got air dropped in and we're told now that

1273
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: you're like part of our pledge class. Well, you're not

1274
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: part of the pledge class in my opinion, because look

1275
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Speaker 1: at everything we've gone through and what you're just going

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01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: to walk in now and be air dropped in and

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01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 1: soak in the fun of being a part of this class.

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01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 1: And we had to kind of work our way through that.

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01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, whatever I think with Daniel Jones,

1280
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: I can now see. I think it took a slower

1281
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: period because the Colts in general, and through the Anthony

1282
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 1: Richardson experience and experiment to an extent, the rest of

1283
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: the roster was trying so hard to and I think

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01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: they like Anthony Richardson. I mean, I think he's a

1285
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: likable guy, but they wanted so badly for it to

1286
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: work with Anthony Richardson that they went through all the riggers,

1287
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: all the growing pains, all the ups and downs and

1288
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: the yo yo and the scrutiny and the and everything

1289
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: that comes with having a young quarterback that you're trying

1290
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: to build around, you're trying to win for, and then

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01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, this guy just comes in in

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01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, and it's like, wait a minute, We've gone

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01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: through all this other stuff. Who are you You think

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01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: you're just gonna come in and like just because you

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01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: sign a contract now all of a sudden, like you're

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01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: the guy that's going that we've all got to just

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01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: accept as the same members of the foundation of the

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01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: rest of this pledge class. And yet Daniel Jones just

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01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 1: like like Blake and Richter, those are the two guys' names.

1300
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: I won't say first or last names, but those two guys.

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01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: Eventually I realized that it was it was on me.

1302
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: I was the one being immature. And I'm not saying

1303
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 1: the Colts players are being immature. I'm saying once I

1304
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: really looked at their situation and realized that they didn't

1305
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: It wasn't their fault that they were added late or

1306
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: whatever else, then I was like, you know what, I

1307
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: get it, and so we kind of found the common

1308
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: ground and they became great. I mean, they were great guys,

1309
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: great guys. I think in sport in general, it represents

1310
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 1: life and the fact that when you go through something

1311
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, there's like, you know,

1312
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: everybody has that coworker that like you know, did you

1313
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: hear they just hired a new guy in accounting, This

1314
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: Mark guy. I don't know anything about him, but like,

1315
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: and for the first couple of weeks, people are like, Oh,

1316
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: that's the new guy. You know, that's the guy they

1317
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: let Bill go. And then Mark's in here and then

1318
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: you work with him and you're like, you know what,

1319
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: this guy's a good guy. Like here's what he brings

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01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: to the table, and you know, wow, he's really good

1321
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: at this or that. And I think that acclamation period

1322
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: had to happen for the Colts, to be honest with you,

1323
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: and I think it took place over the course of

1324
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: training camp and a lot of Daniel Jones. The credit

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01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones is the fact that I don't think

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01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: he came in with a all right new sheriff in

1327
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: town guys. He he just seems to be a more understated,

1328
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: quiet guy, professional and he himself had kind of gone

1329
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 1: through his own PTSD in New York with the Giants,

1330
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: and he was basically the thing I think that we

1331
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 1: forget is that Daniel Jones is the New York Giants

1332
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. I mean, he's the guy in New York,

1333
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: right now, I guarantee you on sports talk radio people

1334
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: are like, you know, for three years they were having

1335
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: the conversation about Daniel Jones that we've been having about

1336
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson of like, yeah, we see the glimpses, we

1337
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: see the flashes, but when's it all going to come together?

1338
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: And I think he came in here knowing that that

1339
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: oddity of he could relate to what Richardson was going through,

1340
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: but he also knew that like it was brass tax

1341
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: time and get down to it, and he's got an

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01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: opportunity here, and he's got a second lease and he's

1343
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: and I think it took a while, but I think

1344
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: the rest of the roster, the rest of the franchise,

1345
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: the rest of the locker room realize that over the

1346
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 1: course of time by just watching how he goes about things.

1347
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: And that's what Shane Steichen talks about when he says

1348
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: it's about operational, it's about what takes place above and

1349
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: beyond what does he say, it's beyond what takes place

1350
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: on the field. It's the analysis and the acclamation period

1351
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: of just people of new face, new new change, and

1352
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: then putting yourself in the situation and the position of

1353
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: thinking about what their standpoint is, what their viewpoint is,

1354
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: and I think the rest of the roster when they've

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01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 1: done that with Jones, they've said, you know what, I

1356
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: get it now, and he's earned the respect of his teammates,

1357
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: and I would like to think that he has a

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01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 1: I think most people now are on board. And Eddie,

1359
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: we were coming off a game where he had two

1360
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: turnovers and they lost, and we'll see again if that's

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01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: the anomaly. But if it is and he continues to

1362
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: play like he did the first three weeks over the

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01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: course of time, I do think it is possible that

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01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: a guy that was I think theoretically brought in to

1365
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,799
Speaker 1: push Richardson may in fact they found their answer beyond

1366
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: this year. But that all comes into negotiation because he's

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01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: getting ready to go into a year with a new contract,

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01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: not unlike a new contract for an entire league of players,

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01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: of which the straw mixing all of that negotiation is

1370
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: literally like six blocks from where we are right now.

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Speaker 1: And that athlete talked about it earlier today and we

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01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: now can play that for you, which we will do next.

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01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: And JT the brick from the Raiders standpoint in twenty

1374
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: so the players of the WNBA don't just want their MTV,

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01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: they want their fair share in the WNBA. That's the reality.

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01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: And as I mentioned earlier, I think what we are

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01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: seeing here and again, to put it in a cliff

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01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: note version, the players of the WNBA have a collective

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01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: bargaining agreement, the Players Association. That is the agreement that

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01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: was settled upon with the ownership groups of the WNBA

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01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: in terms of the amount that they're get paid the

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01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: television contracts, et cetera. That collective bargaining agreement is set

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01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 1: to expire in twenty twenty seven, but the both sides

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01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: have agreed to a new negotiation because of new television revenue,

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01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:54,480
Speaker 1: sponsorship revenue, et cetera. And that negotiation has a deadline

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01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: of the end of this month. So they are right

1387
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 1: now in the midst of negotiating a new on tract

1388
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: between the WNBA owners and the league itself and the

1389
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: players Association. The players are looking for the same thing

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01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: that most people are in their place of employment. More money,

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01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,480
Speaker 1: better benefits, more coverage for things like you know, obviously

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01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, childcare, maternity leave, those sorts of things. Okay,

1393
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: in the last week, what we have seen is one

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01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: of the WNBA's biggest stars. Nafisa Collier holding a press

1395
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 1: conference in her player exit interview and discussing and bringing

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01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: to attention some of her what she believes to be

1397
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: a league wide frustration with, notably the commissioner of the WNBA,

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01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: Kathy Engelbert, and she brought Caitlin Clark's name into the equation.

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01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 1: Here is Nafisa Collier with that statement, if you will,

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01:20:58,600 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: earlier this week.

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01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 5: This past February, I sat across from Kathy and asked

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01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 5: how she planned to address the officiating issues in our league.

1403
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 5: Her response was, will only the losers complain about the refs?

1404
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 5: I also asked how she planned to fix the fact

1405
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 5: that players like Caitlin Angel and Page, who are clearly

1406
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 5: driving massive revenue for the league, are making so little

1407
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 5: for their first four years. Her response was, Caitlyn should

1408
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 5: be grateful she makes sixty million off the court, because

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01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,719
Speaker 5: without the platform that the WNBA gives her, she wouldn't

1410
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 5: make anything. And in that same conversation, she told me

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01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 5: players should be on their knees thanking they're lucky stars

1412
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 5: for the media right steal that I got them.

1413
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: So Caitlyn Clark today talked and again she is an

1414
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: epicenter piece of all of this because of the revenue

1415
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 1: that probably is attached to her transcendently. But this is

1416
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark's reaction, if you will, to the statements from

1417
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,799
Speaker 1: or the statement from the FISA Collier.

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Speaker 7: First of all, I have a lot of great respect

1419
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 7: for fee and I think she made a lot of

1420
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 7: very valid points. And you know, I think what people

1421
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 7: need to understand, you know, we need great leadership in

1422
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 7: this time across all levels. This is straight up the

1423
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 7: most important moment in this league's history, what this league's

1424
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 7: been around for twenty five plus years, and this is

1425
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 7: a moment we have to capitalize on. So that's honestly

1426
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 7: what I would say. I think there's you know, FISA

1427
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 7: at all with what she said. And you know, I

1428
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 7: think the points she made were very valid.

1429
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: Okay, the other thing that was addressed there, and I

1430
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 1: get it. What we are seeing here before our very

1431
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: eyes is no different than what you see at times

1432
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL or the NBA. The NFL and the

1433
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: NBA have billions, billions of dollars of television contract and

1434
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: we long ago accepted it was a massive deal when

1435
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: George Foster got a multimillion dollar contract for the New

1436
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: York Mets. It was a massive deal with Nolan Ryan

1437
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: made a million dollars a year in Major League Baseball.

1438
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 1: Those contracts and those salaries now within the NFL, in

1439
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: the NBA. You know, I remember Eric Dickerson walking off

1440
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: the field as a cult saying they're paying me a

1441
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,799
Speaker 1: million dollars a year to carry the ball thirteen times

1442
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 1: when he was frustrated with his touches. But even then,

1443
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: but since then, the numbers have gone astronomical. So we

1444
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: already long ago were almost desensitized as a fan base

1445
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: to the money that's thrown around amongst those leagues. It

1446
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: is new to us to think of the money that

1447
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 1: is involved within the Women's National Basketball Association the WNBA,

1448
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 1: But the revenue is now starting to increase in terms

1449
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: of the amount that's within the pot to be divvied up.

1450
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: So what we are seeing before our very eyes is

1451
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: a public tug of war for positioning between the commissioner,

1452
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 1: whose job it is to represent the owners and get

1453
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: the best deal for them, and the players whose job

1454
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: it is as an association to make sure they're getting

1455
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: the best deal as well, this is a public power

1456
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: play right before our very eyes. The one thing amongst

1457
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 1: many you could say, where Kathy Engelbert aired in my opinion,

1458
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 1: was when she talks about and brings into play the

1459
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: notion that the WNBA is the vehicle by which Caitlin

1460
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: Clark is able to make a lot of money. The

1461
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: reality is Caitlin Clark is the vehicle by which the

1462
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: w NBA is allowed to make a lot of money.

1463
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: And that goes no further than to look at the attention.

1464
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark was already a transcendent name and star within

1465
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: sports in this country, not women's sports sports when she

1466
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,799
Speaker 1: was at the University of Iowa. She was a major

1467
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: star at Iowa when the dots were connected that she

1468
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: was going to become a member of the Indiana Fever.

1469
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: We sat, I did with Jimmy Cook, Eddie you were here.

1470
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: We sat at the NFL combine with writers from the

1471
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: NFL and did an entire show that day talking about

1472
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark. Scott Long came on to talk about how

1473
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: she's the tailor swift to basketball. All of that from

1474
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 1: the NFL draft because she was already that transcendent a

1475
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: star at Iowa, and the thought that the WNBA is

1476
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 1: what is the vehicle in the platform that allows her

1477
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: to make that money is ludicrous. Caitlin Clark could be

1478
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: playing right now in one of the other league's Ice

1479
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: Cubes League or whatever that she got invited to play into,

1480
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: and she would be making the same level of endorsement money.

1481
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: Here's Caitlyn Clark addressing that aspect of this conversation.

1482
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 7: I think that's probably the way in which the league

1483
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 7: has probably changed over the course of the last few years.

1484
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 7: You know, these kids and what they're making in college

1485
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 7: these days is pretty insane. It's honestly, probably more than

1486
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 7: what I made. Obviously, a lot has changed even since

1487
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 7: I've graduated, so I'm not one hundred percent up to

1488
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 7: date on the exact numbers of what college kids are making.

1489
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 7: But you know, obviously I was very fortunate after my

1490
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 7: freshman year of college. That's when I began working with

1491
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 7: you know, different brands, and you began working with Nike,

1492
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 7: and you know, everybody knows my first and ile deals

1493
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 7: with HIV, the greatest grocery chain of all time based

1494
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 7: in Des Moines and Iowa. A baby so best chocolate

1495
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 7: long John's around. But you know, I think that's the

1496
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 7: way in which, like, you know, people, young women are

1497
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 7: coming into this league now with that type of you know,

1498
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 7: I don't even want to say it's money, but they're

1499
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 7: beginning to build their brands in college and then they're

1500
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 7: bringing that to the WNBA. So I think that's just

1501
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 7: a way in which the league has changed and will

1502
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 7: continue to evolve. And like back to my main point.

1503
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 7: You know, like I said, we are in the biggest

1504
01:26:56,520 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 7: moment in WNBA history. There's no denying that. Everybody knows that,

1505
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 7: and everybody that's in a place in power has a

1506
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 7: true responsibility, and even myself, we have a responsibility to

1507
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 7: make sure that this game and is in a great

1508
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 7: place going forward with the CBA and you know, caring

1509
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 7: for our players and you know, building this league to

1510
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 7: make sure it's in a great spot for many years

1511
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 7: to come. Because you all know, I grew up as

1512
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 7: a huge fan of this league and I'm going to

1513
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 7: do everything I can to make this the league that

1514
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 7: you know, a five year old, a ten year old,

1515
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 7: a fifteen year old, a girl in college is really

1516
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 7: proud of to come into and to be able to

1517
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 7: put a WNBA uniform on, and you know, that's what

1518
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 7: they dream of and then hopefully they can accomplish that

1519
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 7: goal because that's exactly who I was, and that's you know,

1520
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 7: really at the end of the day, like I hope

1521
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 7: that's what my legacy can be, is just how I

1522
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 7: impacted the impacted people to be able to to maybe

1523
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 7: want to be in the WNBA, but to really just

1524
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 7: achieve whatever they want to achieve.

1525
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: And again, and by the way, Longs Donuts Hive is

1526
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: a pretty good grocery store, but Long's Doughnuts probably make

1527
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 1: the best donuts or chocolate Long John's or whatever it

1528
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: was she said there. But the point taken, yes, she

1529
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: is correct. She was making that money at Iowa. I

1530
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: remember the Iowa IndyCar Race when she was a Hawkeye,

1531
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 1: and I'm there at the race and they're like, oh,

1532
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark is here. Oh okay, yeah, she's here on

1533
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: behalf of High Ve. And at that time, I'm thinking, really,

1534
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 1: but that was right when nil began and she was

1535
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 1: already the face of High Ve. And then you get

1536
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: into Nike and Gatorade and the rest of them, and

1537
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 1: that was when she was a college basketball player and

1538
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: I get the fact that the w NBA has to

1539
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: present themselves as you know, please be aware of or

1540
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 1: understand what we are doing for you the athlete. But

1541
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: at this point the Fleet is correct in saying no, no, no, Now,

1542
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 1: it's about what we are doing for you the league.

1543
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 2: And mainly what she has done for the league.

1544
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 4: Correct.

1545
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 2: Just look at the past year, two years. Well, you've

1546
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 2: got Caitlyn Clark in the Indiana Fever playing an NBA arena.

1547
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: Correct, And the the yes, the television numbers alone, the

1548
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: television ratings alone, are you know, she is in fact

1549
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: and you know what a big thing happened this year,

1550
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: and the fact that look at what how far her

1551
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: team went when she was out, And I mean that

1552
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: is a credit to people still paid attention, Yes, because

1553
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: the people were now introduced to the rest of that

1554
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: roster because of Caitlyn Clark, and so people realize, oh, wow,

1555
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: Kelsey Mitchell is really exciting to watch. And that then,

1556
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: by the way, the best to her on the recovery

1557
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,680
Speaker 1: of what turned out to be beyond just cramping. But

1558
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, a complex issue. I think Ralph Friefel joined

1559
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: us early next week and we'll get more into what

1560
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 1: that could mean long term for Kelsey Mitchell in terms

1561
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: of the injury, and credit to that phenomenal training staff

1562
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: for recognizing early what could have been worse. But you know,

1563
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 1: Kelsey Mitchell and Odyssey Simms and Leah Boston and the

1564
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: rest of the players in the league. People looked at

1565
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: it now and they're like, oh wow. You know, I

1566
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: might go into the hive for the Long John's chocolate donuts,

1567
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 1: but then I realized there's a whole bunch of other

1568
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: stuff in this grocery store I really like. And that's

1569
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: what's happened. JT. Brick, works Radio for the Raiders, joins

1570
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 1: us to talk about Raiders Colts next two o'clock in Indianapolis,

1571
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: but that matter, it's two o'clock everywhere in the Eastern

1572
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 1: time zone. My name is Jake Query. Eddie Garrison the

1573
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 1: other voice you hear on this program. We call it

1574
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 1: Query and Company. Here on ninety three five and one

1575
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 1: oh seven five the Fan Colts and Raiders at Lucas

1576
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: Oil Stadium coming up on Sunday. Our next guest needs

1577
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 1: no introduction, but I will provide one. Nonetheless. He is

1578
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: with Raider Nation Radio n twenty AM in Las Vegas,

1579
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: but he is also synonymous with Sports Talk Radio. He

1580
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: does a daily show from noon until two, Vegas time.

1581
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: JT the Brick joins us to talk about the upcoming matchup. JT,

1582
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:13,040
Speaker 1: how are you.

1583
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me? Buckle up your audience. This is

1584
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 4: nothing less than a must win for the Raider nation.

1585
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 4: We have our back against the wall on steroids. We

1586
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 4: have to win this game. We have to win this.

1587
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 4: I'm not into this must win blah blah blah. Must win.

1588
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 4: If Raiders lose one in four with guys like Max Crosby,

1589
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 4: Rock Bowers, Ashton Jenky, Pete Carroll, our new minority owner,

1590
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 4: Tom Brady, this was not expected. And we're going up

1591
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 4: against Daniel Jones. We got Geno Smith, who's always been

1592
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 4: better than Daniel Jones until this year. Mysteriously, Raiders have

1593
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 4: got to get out of Lucas Oil with a win.

1594
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's begin with Gino Smith, because I j T.

1595
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, and you and I

1596
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:06,759
Speaker 1: talked yesterday, and I think Daniel Jones to some extent,

1597
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of people here would like to

1598
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 1: see a Geno Smith thing. And what I mean by

1599
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,800
Speaker 1: that was change of scenery. Suddenly you realize a guy

1600
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: was better than perhaps what his first opportunity showed for him.

1601
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 1: But Gino Smith is now turning the football over again.

1602
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 1: What is it about, whether it be schematically or just

1603
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,799
Speaker 1: Smith himself that has caused him now to be prone

1604
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: to throwing the ball away?

1605
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 4: Great question. You know we opened up Raiders opened up

1606
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 4: in New England and he was really good. So his

1607
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 4: first game with the Raiders got off great in a

1608
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,560
Speaker 4: rain game outdoors, because Gino is a different quarterback indoors

1609
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 4: than outdoors. Believe it or not, he played in Seattle

1610
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 4: or he's made his bones, so he's supposed to be

1611
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 4: good indoors. But as Tampa two two high safety scheme

1612
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 4: that teams have been running at him or a safety

1613
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 4: comes down in the box and tricks him, he's been

1614
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 4: thrown into tight window. And you know this, if you're

1615
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 4: throwing to a guy who's open, you're not gonna throw

1616
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,600
Speaker 4: interceptions because guys are open unless it's a deflection or

1617
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 4: a pit ball. Gino's trying to hit these guys in

1618
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 4: tight windows, and when he's doing it, he's just off.

1619
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 4: He's just off by half a second. And his safeties

1620
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 4: have been making pretty good plays on him, So no

1621
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 4: excuses here. The thing that Jake which is troublesome to

1622
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 4: me is he's such a good player when he's in

1623
01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 4: a common environment and he's got a little bit of protection.

1624
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 4: The bad news for the Raiders going into this game

1625
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 4: is that Colt Miller's down and he's one of our

1626
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 4: best players since Oakland. He's He's a left tackle who

1627
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 4: should have been a Pro Bowler. He's just one of

1628
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 4: the top five left tackles in football. He just went down.

1629
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 4: He went on ir and now it's going to be

1630
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 4: really tough to fill his needs. But the Raiders are

1631
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 4: coming off a game against the Bears where Pete Carroll,

1632
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 4: who I interview exclusively every week, told me one of

1633
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 4: the first times he looked at the tape and said, man,

1634
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 4: we play well. We lost by one point on a

1635
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 4: block kick. It happens Indy had the same issue on

1636
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 4: the leverage play against Denver. But Pete's pretty excited that

1637
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 4: he's starting to see the team he wants to see.

1638
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 4: But they got to get a win because now now

1639
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 4: it's hitting to the point where Raider Nation and Raider Nation,

1640
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 4: with all due respect to the Colts fans Raider Nation

1641
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 4: can get a little bit more angry than the nice

1642
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 4: people of the Midwest at Indy, And that's what I'm

1643
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 4: fighting off right now.

1644
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 1: You know, It's fun Actually it's funny JT. Because when

1645
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: the Raiders, you know, when they moved there, I remember

1646
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, I still think of the Raiders obviously

1647
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 1: of like you know, black Hole Oakland Raider Nation, and

1648
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 1: I know they were in LA too, but I'm like,

1649
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: if there was one place for them to move that

1650
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: just seems perfect. It's Vegas, right, I mean, just Vegas.

1651
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 1: Everything about Vegas and the Raiders just seems to fit. Right.

1652
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: But and in terms of this roster, let's talk about

1653
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: Ashton Gent because now he's starting to fit. I think

1654
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: he's starting show what we expected to see out of

1655
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 1: him when they took him. But are they just now

1656
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:10,639
Speaker 1: starting to more incorporate him because he's gotten his footing

1657
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 1: or is it because of necessity because they're having to

1658
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 1: kind of take things away a little bit from Geno

1659
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:20,879
Speaker 1: Smith's danger situations of dangerous passing situation.

1660
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 4: No, they tried him every which way. It's really simple

1661
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 4: to compare it to Jonathan Taylor who's a great player.

1662
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 4: And you've been through this with Jonathan Taylor over his careers.

1663
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 4: If the holes are open, he's gone. If the holes

1664
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 4: aren't open, he's not. And with Ashton Genty, it's been

1665
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 4: hit or miss. The games where he's had holes to hit,

1666
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 4: he's hit him beautifully. Like Ryan Clark took such a

1667
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 4: deep thirty hit at Ashton Genty a couple of weeks

1668
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 4: ago on ESPN where he said he didn't have the

1669
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 4: hit factor. And I don't mind Ryan Clark overall, but

1670
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 4: it was such a dirty, cheap hit on a kid

1671
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,799
Speaker 4: who couldn't get back to the line of scrimmage because

1672
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 4: the offensive line couldn't get him a hole, so he

1673
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 4: was getting blown up. Well, look at the tape of

1674
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 4: last game. He hits the hole and he's gone, and

1675
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 4: he's making plays in the passing game. So it is

1676
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 4: a good example in this game here. I don't know

1677
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,919
Speaker 4: how great the Colts' front is, but the Raiders offensive

1678
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 4: line played really well last week and it's about time

1679
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 4: they've been awful. If they can get him to the

1680
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 4: second level on some linebackers, Genty'll make guys miss and

1681
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 4: also truck a safety and he'll run over a corner.

1682
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 4: But I mean, you got to be licking your chops

1683
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 4: in Indy because if you look at the tape, half

1684
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 4: of the plays or three quarters of gen D's attempts

1685
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 4: has been a defensive tackle hitting him two yards deep

1686
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 4: and blowing him up. And if that happens again, it

1687
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 4: puts Gino in third and nine, third and eleven, third

1688
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 4: and twelve. And the real bummer about this going into

1689
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 4: this game is Brock Bowers because he's gonna play. And

1690
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 4: I wish you guys could see Brock Bowers for the

1691
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 4: first time at one hundred percent, because it is fascinating

1692
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 4: to see this guy play. What a gift from God

1693
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 4: that the Raiders got brought Bowers in the draft a

1694
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 4: couple of years ago. But he'll have a knee brace

1695
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 4: on and he hasn't been able to click just yet.

1696
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because JT, the brick by the

1697
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 1: way out in Vegas is our guest. I think to

1698
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: an extent, what Colts fans would like to think JT

1699
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,759
Speaker 1: is that they have seen a version of Brock Bowers,

1700
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 1: and they've seen it in the form of Tyler Warren.

1701
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 1: Because I think that's obviously what Indianapolis. The blueprint was

1702
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: kind of there. In terms of Brock Bowers. I wanted

1703
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: you to speak to our audience about, you know, Tyler

1704
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Warren and the ability to have that kind of a

1705
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 1: tight end and what it does to your offense to

1706
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 1: kind of soften a defense. You've seen it with Bowers

1707
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 1: when he is at one hundred percent. How much of

1708
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,879
Speaker 1: a game changer is that to the versatility of your offense.

1709
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's incredible. It's a great question because Bowers is

1710
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 4: a new version of that. I'll take it out even

1711
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 4: further than George Gittle because when the Niners had good

1712
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:00,080
Speaker 4: receivers at one hundred percent, when Brandon Ayuk was playing

1713
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 4: at a very high level, and they just had receivers

1714
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 4: who are really good and then a great tight end,

1715
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 4: it changes everything. The Raiders have Jacoby Myers, who is

1716
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 4: a very good number two. Trey Tucker had a three

1717
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 4: touchdown game early. He's a pretty good player, but not

1718
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 4: super elite. Now with Pittman and Warren, if you had

1719
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 4: another receiver like a t Higgins, per Se or just

1720
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 4: another store, it just opens up everything because you have

1721
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 4: to decide on doubling the tight end like Travis Kelcey

1722
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 4: in his prime, you had to double him and that

1723
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 4: opens it up for a receiver. So for Brock, they're

1724
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 4: not doubling him here so far this year because he's

1725
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 4: just not one hundred percent when he is and they

1726
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 4: double him, then it opens up lanes for the running

1727
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 4: game and it gets another receiver in single coverage. So

1728
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 4: I think the Colt's got to be really happy that

1729
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 4: they have an elite young tight end that can open

1730
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 4: up the game, and especially in the red zone, because

1731
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 4: I lose my mind. I do the pre and post

1732
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,680
Speaker 4: a lot of other things for the Raiders, and the

1733
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 4: only thing that bothers me in game is when they

1734
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 4: get away from Bowers. Like last week, we had a

1735
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 4: first in goal on the seven against the Bears to

1736
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,639
Speaker 4: go up two scores, to go up nine, the game

1737
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 4: would have been over. On first and goal from the seven,

1738
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 4: they ran genty into the pile for a one yard loss.

1739
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 4: On second and eight they ran genty into the pile

1740
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 4: for a three yard loss. Then it was third in

1741
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 4: goal from like the thirteen or fourteen, and they didn't

1742
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 4: even look at Bowers who was wide open. Look at

1743
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 4: the tape in the corner of the end zone. They

1744
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 4: checked down underneath to Dante Thornton. He dropped the ball.

1745
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 4: It was a catchable ball. The Raiders kick a field

1746
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 4: goal end up losing to the Bears when they had

1747
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 4: the kill shot right there to put the game away,

1748
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 4: and they didn't give it to Bowers. And I'm going

1749
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 4: to say the same thing about Warren with you down

1750
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 4: the road. When you have an opportunity to get the

1751
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 4: ball to Warren at the five yard line, you better

1752
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 4: do it because he's an elite player who can make

1753
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 4: a play. You know.

1754
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 1: Actually, what happened at the end of that game, JT.

1755
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 1: I think you jinxed it because you sent a tweet

1756
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 1: and said the Raiders have a chance here to score

1757
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 1: and put this away.

1758
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, don't follow me on Twitter during the game.

1759
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 4: I'm sure my bosses are looking at me in the box. Done. Oh,

1760
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 4: here he goes, he's two boxes down. Here he goes.

1761
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 4: But you know, but guys, for this game really a

1762
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 4: quick thing. Daniel Jones, I grew up on and raised

1763
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 4: a Giant fan. In my former life, it's year twenty

1764
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 4: eight with the Raiders, so my allegiance with the Raiders.

1765
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 4: But my dad is eighty seven years old and he's

1766
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,719
Speaker 4: a diehard Giant fan and you always tell me Daniel

1767
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,600
Speaker 4: Jones is so good. He's such a great athlete. He

1768
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 4: can run, but he was a turnover machine and even

1769
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 4: though he didn't have great teams with the Giants, he

1770
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 4: would personally shoot the team in the foot by throwing

1771
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,679
Speaker 4: it to the other team. It's nice to see he's

1772
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 4: not doing that anymore under Shane Steich and that they're

1773
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 4: giving him the opportunity to be good because he's a

1774
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 4: really good runner. When he takes off and there's no

1775
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,040
Speaker 4: one in front of him, it's beautiful to watch because

1776
01:40:58,040 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 4: a lot of people don't give him credit for that.

1777
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 4: He's really good and open space.

1778
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 1: So when in that in terms of that space, JT

1779
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 1: before we let you go defensively, the Raiders are susceptible,

1780
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 1: where if you're Shane Steichen, you're trying to take advantage

1781
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: of what defensive weakness for the Raiders.

1782
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 4: Corner because the Raiders. Pete Cherrell, it's really unique what

1783
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 4: he wants to do. Pete Cherrell comes from the Legion

1784
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 4: of Boom Correct Legion of Boom Earl Thomas Richard Sherman

1785
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 4: camp Chancellor, and he built the Legion of boom and

1786
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 4: he wants that specific type of player six' two corner,

1787
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 4: thumping hitting. Safety he's got the. Safety Jeremy chin played

1788
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 4: for The commanders last year in THE Nfc, championship good,

1789
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 4: player And Isaiah, pollamal who's another good young. Safety problem

1790
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 4: is a. Corner they don't have. Corners they Have Eric

1791
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 4: stokes who came from The packers decent and Then Kyu

1792
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 4: Blue kelly Or Darien porter who were. Young so every

1793
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:54,639
Speaker 4: game we've played so far this, year four of them

1794
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 4: were one in. Three there's a gift touchdown to the other.

1795
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 4: Team there's just one play broken play thirty yards sixty yard.

1796
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 4: Touchdown whill you scratch your head and, go, oh you,

1797
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:08,639
Speaker 4: know a young kid just gave up a. Touchdown that

1798
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 4: can't happen in this. Game they got to clean that.

1799
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 4: Up SO i think that The raiders know that you're

1800
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 4: going to try to run the, ball and if The

1801
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 4: raiders can't stop the, run the game's. Over if The

1802
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 4: raiders can Take taylor out of the game for a little,

1803
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 4: bit because The raiders are pretty good so far, statistically

1804
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 4: it's stopped in the. Run other than The commander's, game

1805
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 4: which was just a throwaway stack. Game then they'll put

1806
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 4: the pressure On Daniel. Jones we won In Raider nation

1807
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:38,879
Speaker 4: For Daniel jones to beat. Us we don't believe That Daniel,

1808
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 4: JONES i, know And i'm not talking for the, Team

1809
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:43,679
Speaker 4: i'm talking for the. Fans we don't believe That Daniel,

1810
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 4: jones who's been a turnover machine his whole, life can

1811
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:49,600
Speaker 4: throw for three point fifty and four. Touchdowns if he,

1812
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 4: does you know where to find. Me we got to

1813
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 4: hope That Daniel jones gives us the ball one or

1814
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 4: two times in this, game so we can eke a

1815
01:42:58,120 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 4: game out and get on the plane and come home

1816
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 4: two and three going Into, tennessee which gives us three and,

1817
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 4: three and now the later nation is.

1818
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 1: Stabilized your dad, believes your dad BELIEVES jt. Heyes before

1819
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:13,439
Speaker 1: we let you, GO i wanted to ask you, this

1820
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 1: AND i can't remember if we if we had you

1821
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: on to ask you this. Before but being In, Vegas

1822
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 1: i'm assuming that you see SOME unlv Football purdue, obviously

1823
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 1: AND i like so far What i've. SEEN i know

1824
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: the win loss doesn't show it just, yet BUT i

1825
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: like What i've seen out Of Barry odom because he

1826
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 1: looks like a guy that is going to have a

1827
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 1: team that doesn't do what you're talking about of shooting

1828
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: themselves in the. Foot how much impression did you get

1829
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 1: from him during the time he was AT. Unlv he was.

1830
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 4: OUTSTANDING a matter of, fact we were pretty bitter because

1831
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 4: it's a really different topic that we should do on a.

1832
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:52,679
Speaker 4: Podcast how DOES unlv not draw from this multi billion

1833
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:56,839
Speaker 4: dollar entertainment capital of the, world all this nil. Money It's, vegas,

1834
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,600
Speaker 4: right we got everything In vegas and he left to

1835
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 4: Go todue and we're, like wait a. Second we Love,

1836
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 4: purdue it's at a bigger. Conference we get. It but

1837
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 4: he had this team almost in the playoffs last year AT.

1838
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 4: Unlv Dan mullen took over his. Team Dan mullen's A

1839
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 4: tv guy and a GOOD dax coach and coach To.

1840
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 4: Florida now THE Unlv rebels are four and oh and

1841
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 4: owed him had a lot to do with. That those

1842
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 4: are his, players most of. Them he is a, gritty

1843
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 4: no nonsense. Guy only At purdue can spend some money for.

1844
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,679
Speaker 4: HIM i, mean Looks purdue's got to put their big

1845
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 4: boy pants on and say that if we're going to

1846
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 4: stay here and compete Against michigan In wisconsin And Ohio.

1847
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,600
Speaker 4: State we got to raise some. Money and if you

1848
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 4: do and you get him better, players he'll coach him.

1849
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 4: Up he's a very, good hard nosed, coach gets the

1850
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 4: most out of a. Roster J.

1851
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 1: T you appreciate the time as, always, Man it's always

1852
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 1: good to catch up with. You we'll see what. Happens sounds. Like,

1853
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 1: defensively this is going to be like The Spider man

1854
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: On Spider man, mean because The colts susceptibility is also

1855
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,679
Speaker 1: in the attricia that'shit their defensive, Backfield so the corners

1856
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 1: is a question mark for Certain so one of those

1857
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 1: two's probably licking their, chops whether it Be Geno smith

1858
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,680
Speaker 1: Or Daniel, jones but certainly appreciate. It safe travels to,

1859
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: you all.

1860
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah i'll leave you on this. Note, Guys Max

1861
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 4: crosby's worth the price of. Admission he's having a Defensive

1862
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 4: player of The year awards. Season he's not. Good if

1863
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 4: you got a ticket to the, game Watch Max crosby ninety.

1864
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 4: EIGHT i think he'll you'll be blown away by an individual.

1865
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 4: Effort we'll see who wins the.

1866
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,720
Speaker 1: Game thanks for having, me, guys appreciate. IT jt The

1867
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 1: brick joining us From Las. Vegas good stuff. There good

1868
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 1: stuff on Bary odam as. Well AND i agree with

1869
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 1: that about you, know the nil aspect From purdue is you,

1870
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: know that's a whole different talk, show, right just in

1871
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: terms of every. SCHOOL i mean you think about, it you,

1872
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 1: know when you look at schools AND i get. IT i,

1873
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 1: mean that's a whole as he, mentioned that's a whole

1874
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:50,680
Speaker 1: podcast in, itself right because of just the way it

1875
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 1: works now of college athletics and one year rentals essentially of.

1876
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 1: PLAYERS i, mean you have no idea how long you're

1877
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,839
Speaker 1: actually gonna have players and what they're going to transfer

1878
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: and go to greener. PASTORS i don't. Know And eddie

1879
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 1: think about like the smaller you, KNOW unlv for that.

1880
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 1: MATTER i mean he's, right UNLV's got to HAVE nil

1881
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 1: money out there with all the money out, there, right

1882
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 1: but think about the The wyomings of the, world The

1883
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:21,639
Speaker 1: San Jose, state The, Pokes Appalachian, State polks got the

1884
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: they GOT unlv coming up this. Weekend by the, way

1885
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:27,600
Speaker 1: you know those, schools how do you compete with? IT i,

1886
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: mean you, know the The Horizon, league for, example AND

1887
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 1: i love The Horizon league and yesterday during you, know

1888
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 1: sitting there for media day for The Horizon league in

1889
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,600
Speaker 1: basketball and and really good, players AND i THINK I

1890
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 1: U indy is going to Be and we can get

1891
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 1: more into this in a little, bit BUT i think

1892
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 1: they're going to BE i think they're going to be

1893
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 1: fun to watch this.

1894
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 2: Year they're gonna be, Interesting. Jake you, know allegedly they

1895
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 2: want to do like hockey subs like.

1896
01:46:56,439 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 1: Five and five. Hours that's SO I U indy is

1897
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 1: going to be in basketball this. YEAR i think they

1898
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 1: have the potential And i'm not saying that this level of, win,

1899
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 1: right but they have potential to be kind of like

1900
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 1: The Indiana state story of what it was two years,

1901
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 1: ago because they have so, here you have a coach

1902
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 1: And Ben hallett that comes over From West liberty and

1903
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 1: you Go West. Liberty, well he was like two hundred

1904
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 1: and seventeen and thirty seven or something like that during

1905
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: the time that he was, there and he runs The

1906
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 1: grenelle Slash Old Loyola merrymount offense of go, go, go go,

1907
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 1: go and five guys on the floor at all time

1908
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 1: with just constant. Rotation to your, point almost like hockey,

1909
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 1: rotation and you, know you look at it and you

1910
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 1: think about players that you have on that, roster and you're,

1911
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 1: like this is, awesome and people are going to want

1912
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 1: to come and play for, it and you can you

1913
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,879
Speaker 1: can just go and you got to trust your teammates

1914
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: and whatever. Else but if you have guys like what

1915
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 1: happened With Indiana state where they have a big year

1916
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:07,680
Speaker 1: and then you, know you lose your coach in that,

1917
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 1: SITUATION i. Realize but schools that then bigger schools that

1918
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 1: come along and, say you know, what you, know we're

1919
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 1: going to give you fifty, grand one hundred, grand whatever

1920
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 1: it may. Be how do the smaller schools like that?

1921
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 1: Compete and In purdue's, case as he's talking, ABOUT i, mean,

1922
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 1: Yes purdue's going to HAVE niow, money but they're not

1923
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:34,879
Speaker 1: going to Have, Michigan Ohio, State Penn state level backer

1924
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 1: money because of just the branding that goes in and

1925
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 1: the merchandising with those programs and what those schools can

1926
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: do and et. CETERA i, mean it's the wild Wild

1927
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 1: west for, certain no question about. It and then and

1928
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 1: in some ways it's a balancing act because you can

1929
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 1: get players on a one year rental or whatever, else

1930
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 1: but you have like a year to cash it in

1931
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:58,679
Speaker 1: and then the next year you're doing all over. Again

1932
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 1: and basketball certainly more so even than in, football because in,

1933
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 1: basketball one guy can change your whole, thing, RIGHT i,

1934
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: mean no question about. It but you, know it's an

1935
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:11,839
Speaker 1: interesting point he, makes just in terms Of Barry odam

1936
01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 1: And vegas and now you know what's going on With

1937
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 1: purdue in. General indiana off this. Weekend they've Got oregon

1938
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,759
Speaker 1: coming Up Austin. Stadium that is going to be next,

1939
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 1: weekend and that gives you AND i Think oregon Is

1940
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 1: oregon off this weekend as.

1941
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 2: WELL i think they, Are, yes they.

1942
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 1: Are AND i you, know For indiana and how many

1943
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 1: times have we said this in the last, season but,

1944
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 1: again is this the biggest? Game and you know program,

1945
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:44,639
Speaker 1: History well we we had like three of those last, year,

1946
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean it's it's it's seemingly every year every

1947
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 1: week now For. Indiana but that's what happens when you

1948
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: get into the top. Ten and LIKE i said the other,

1949
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 1: day If indiana were to, win that's good news for.

1950
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,240
Speaker 1: Them then later in the, year if they're able to

1951
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 1: hold serve and go Into Penn state ranked in the top,

1952
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 1: ten automatic win Because Penn state can't beat anybody in

1953
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 1: the top ten at. All right with the four and

1954
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 1: twenty one Under James franklin against the.

1955
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 2: Top, Ten, yeah they're.

1956
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 1: Horrible that's, rough, right Very but back to The raiders

1957
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:22,800
Speaker 1: And colts game And Geno smith And Pete, Carroll AND

1958
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:25,640
Speaker 1: i do Like Geno, smith but he's right in the

1959
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 1: fact that you, know you forget that When Gino smith

1960
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: really got his consistency it was In seattle where he

1961
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 1: was playing With Pete. CARROLL i, mean it's not like

1962
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: this is a new. Marriage they are certainly familiar with one,

1963
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 1: another what they can, do what needs to be. Done

1964
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 1: and The raiders ARE i watched That bears, game AND

1965
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 1: i mean they had that game one on like five different.

1966
01:50:57,400 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: Occasions but what separates not good teams from good or

1967
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: great teams is good to great teams win the games

1968
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: they're supposed to, win and win the games that they.

1969
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 1: Control and they controlled that game until literally the last

1970
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:18,800
Speaker 1: i mean three minutes to his, point they had the game.

1971
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 1: Won and that was A, Listen indiana was a bad

1972
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: beat to use that. Term and if you're a, Gambler i'm,

1973
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 1: not but if you, are Oh, Man indiana And iowa

1974
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: was a bad. Beat it was brutal because of the

1975
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 1: safety at the end of the, game just to run

1976
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 1: the clock, out which swung the point. Differential, yeah the

1977
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 1: punter could have stopped on the eighteen yard.

1978
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:40,680
Speaker 4: Line.

1979
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 1: QUARTERBACK i thought it was the. Punter, no it Was. Mendoza, okay,

1980
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 1: Right i'm certain it. Was wasn't. It he took the

1981
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: snap and just ran into the end zone and then

1982
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: took the knee in the end zone to run the clock.

1983
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 1: Out i'm almost certain it. Was Maybe i'm, wrong but either,

1984
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 1: way and then you have the you know that game

1985
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 1: with The. RAIDERS i mean they're lining up for a field. Goal,

1986
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:07,720
Speaker 1: yeah it was like a fifty four yard, er but you,

1987
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:10,639
Speaker 1: know in the bear's, block it game. Over but they

1988
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 1: had that game, won man. Brutal this week in THE

1989
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 1: nfl is interesting because if you do AS i, do

1990
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 1: like a one of the with my, buddies we do

1991
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 1: a pool where we do confidence. Pool, yeah and there

1992
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,680
Speaker 1: are some weeks you look at it and you're, like,

1993
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 1: man this is an impossible. Week this week looks like

1994
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: knock on. Wood but it looks like an easier. Week

1995
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 1: there are a lot of games that just seem to

1996
01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 1: be like foregone. Conclusion when you look at, it you're,

1997
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 1: like it's just just not great. Matchups BUT i you, know,

1998
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 1: listen that's that's why they play the, games, RIGHT i

1999
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 1: mean that that. Much we know it's the beauty of THE.

2000
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 1: Nfl but the The colts defensively getting in into the

2001
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 1: backfield as he was talking, about and trying to stop

2002
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 1: the run for it. DEVELOPS i, mean that's an area

2003
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:06,680
Speaker 1: that seemingly is a strength for The. Colts do The

2004
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 1: raiders scare, You? Eddie do The raiders when you think

2005
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 1: of The? Raiders do you think of this as a

2006
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: matchup that is overly daunting or are you is it?

2007
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 1: Confusing to? Confusing is the wrong? Word is it? Enigmatic

2008
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i, said LIKE i, said The, RAIDERS i think

2009
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 1: to his, point we thought were going to be better

2010
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 1: at this point than they, are right or at least win.

2011
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 2: LOSS i think it's another one of those games where

2012
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 2: you just have to take care of. Business like The

2013
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 2: cults are better than The. Raiders good.

2014
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 1: Teams it's a game that good teams, win, right.

2015
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:44,840
Speaker 2: Yes and like if The colts are just If Daniel

2016
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:46,479
Speaker 2: jones just goes out there and do what he did

2017
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 2: weeks one through. Three takes care of the football just

2018
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 2: like a point guard distributes it to wherever the ball

2019
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 2: needs to go. To the open guy be able to

2020
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 2: run the ball. Effectively With Jonathan, taylor eventually he'll break

2021
01:53:57,439 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 2: a big one like he has in every game this,

2022
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 2: year and the defense holds, serves they're able to get

2023
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 2: To Geno, smith and the creates any creativity Of lou

2024
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 2: And rimo and the, coverage you, know scheme and disguise

2025
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 2: is able to Confuse smith and forced a couple turnovers than,

2026
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 2: BOOM i mean.

2027
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: The, turnovers, Right it's gonna be, key all. Right, well

2028
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 1: The colts obviously yesterday had a. Retirement they got another one,

2029
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 1: big another big retirement coming up On. Sunday we'll tell

2030
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: you about both of. Those And Matt, taylor the voice

2031
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:28,599
Speaker 1: of The, colts joins us. Next so let's get right

2032
01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: too With Matt, taylor the voice of The. Colts colts

2033
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 1: And raiders coming up On sunday At Lucas Oil. Stadium And,

2034
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 1: Matt i'll begin with AS i think we probably do

2035
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 1: each week with, you and that is simply a medical

2036
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 1: update if you, will those that we think are now

2037
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 1: going to be in and those that we are still

2038
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 1: waiting to find out whether or not you're going to

2039
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 1: be saying their name On. Sunday.

2040
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 6: Yeah for The, COLTS i, MEAN i think right, Now

2041
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 6: Kenny morris, PROBABLY i don't. KNOW i don't want to,

2042
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 6: speculate BUT i wouldn't be shocked if he didn't. Play

2043
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:01,880
Speaker 6: i'll just put it at, that missing another game kind

2044
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 6: of a hybrid injury between his calf and. Achilles Alec

2045
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 6: pearce is trending in the right direction right still has

2046
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 6: to clear those five stages of the concussion. Protocol he

2047
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,360
Speaker 6: is back to practice this, week so that's good, news

2048
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 6: and we'll see where his status is later in the,

2049
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 6: week and you, know, tomorrow and THEN i don't know

2050
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 6: if perhaps you, know the independent neurologists as they like to,

2051
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:27,839
Speaker 6: say would get involved either late tomorrow Or, saturday depending

2052
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 6: on how things. Go and then outside of, that not

2053
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 6: really injury, related but just in terms of, personnel you

2054
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:37,839
Speaker 6: know what's going to happen at cornerback now Without Xavier

2055
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 6: howard and his availability and him retiring and so a

2056
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 6: lot of shuffling perhaps going on to the back end

2057
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 6: on that.

2058
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 1: Secondary by the, WAY i don't know about, You, matt

2059
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 1: but with, me oftentimes when something's dinged up AND i

2060
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 1: go to the, doctor they tell me my injury is

2061
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 1: hybrid Because i've got so many muscles they can't tell the, difference,

2062
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 1: right isn't That isn't that the side of an elite

2063
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 1: athlete when your injury is a hybrid athlete or a

2064
01:55:59,680 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 1: hybrid and dreaming the problems that you.

2065
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 6: Have to deal, With jake to the normal, people don't

2066
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 6: it's just. AMAZING i.

2067
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 8: DON'T i, don't that's.

2068
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 6: RIGHT i don't know how you deal with, It that's.

2069
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 2: Right that's.

2070
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 1: Right uh, Okay so let's speak of how you deal

2071
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 1: with that exactly what you just mentioned in you, know

2072
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 1: now Having xavier And howard out of the mix and

2073
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 1: so therefore and again with No Kenny moore at the nickel,

2074
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 1: spot and you got to kind of reshuffle things. Around

2075
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 1: that means that That's i'm gonna say slack for lack

2076
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 1: of a better, Phrase but we see shuffling around WHERE i,

2077
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 1: mean who is going to see more reps now in

2078
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: the defensive backfield For. Indianapolis, YEAH i.

2079
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 6: WISH i had the, ANSWER i JUST i don't know.

2080
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 6: Yet it's it's a big it's a big question mark

2081
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 6: because you, Know kenny's obviously and a little bit of

2082
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 6: jeopardy of, playing you. Know So Mike hilton, is, YEAH

2083
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 6: i want to use the phrase getting up to, speed

2084
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 6: but that's probably a little bit unfair to, him just

2085
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 6: because of his familiarity with his defense Under loui An.

2086
01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 6: Arumo but as it relates to just playing with The

2087
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 6: colts and you, know getting familiar with the guys around,

2088
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 6: him he's still very very, fresh having been signed what Last,

2089
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 6: Tuesday SO i think next man up on the, outside you,

2090
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 6: know your options there Are Jonathan. Edwards you, know he's

2091
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 6: got some local flavor to him because he played a

2092
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 6: couple of years In Indiana state before he transferred TO Tu.

2093
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 6: Wayne AND i thought he had a really, good uh

2094
01:57:21,200 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 6: training camp in. Preseason you, KNOW i thought if you

2095
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 6: would have asked me the odds of him making the

2096
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:26,880
Speaker 6: team coming out of training, camp BUT i would have

2097
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 6: said probably, none you, know just considering the depth The

2098
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:33,360
Speaker 6: colts had at that. Position but as we, know that

2099
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 6: depth's been tested because the, injuries and he's, uh you,

2100
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 6: know put one foot in front of the other and

2101
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 6: walking through that door of. Opportunity then you've Got Makai.

2102
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 6: Blackman you, know he can play on the outside and play,

2103
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 6: nickel BUT i think The colts probably prefer to play

2104
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 6: him more on the outside at this. Point and then

2105
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 6: on your practice squad you've got Chrys lamont and some other.

2106
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 6: GUYS i, mean obviously the mons has got the most, experience,

2107
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 6: uh just in terms of not only playing, experience but

2108
01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:03,920
Speaker 6: just familiarity with you, know the guys that he would

2109
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:07,600
Speaker 6: be you, know potentially around on defense in the back.

2110
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 6: End so, YEAH i think that is the biggest question

2111
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 6: mark surrounding this team going into week five is you,

2112
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 6: know who plays in the, secondary who do they trust

2113
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:17,920
Speaker 6: and what roles are these guys put.

2114
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 1: Into you, know it's, Funny, matt you Know, blackman who

2115
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:24,680
Speaker 1: was a guy that was a late acquisition via trade

2116
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 1: just before the roster was, set and at the time

2117
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 1: you just thought it was an insurance. Policy but it

2118
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 1: goes back To. Matt you, know you just can't have enough,

2119
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 1: corners can. YOU i, mean it just seems to be

2120
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:40,280
Speaker 1: more and more in THE nfl in twenty twenty. Five

2121
01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 1: it is a position of massive.

2122
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 6: Attrition, WELL i, mean think about what they've done in

2123
01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 6: the last six seven, weeks you, know since training. CAMP

2124
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 6: i Mean Jalen jones goes, Down Juju brince goes. DOWN

2125
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 6: i Mean brince isn't even here. Anymore you, Know Jalen

2126
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 6: jones is still ON ir with one more week with that,

2127
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 6: designation able to come back next, week so we'll, see you,

2128
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 6: know they bring In, blackman they bring In, lemon's they

2129
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 6: bring In Xavian, howard just out of necessity because they've

2130
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 6: just been hit so hard at that. Position so, YEAH

2131
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 6: i think to your, POINT i think corner is probably

2132
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 6: a spot that routinely gets dinged up just because of you, know.

2133
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 4: It's a very physical.

2134
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 6: Position you got to cover, guys but you also have,

2135
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 6: to you, know play strong in a box at, times

2136
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 6: and you've got to tackle on the outside a lot

2137
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:30,440
Speaker 6: of times depending on formations and. Scheme you, know you

2138
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:32,680
Speaker 6: have to come in and set the. Edge so you

2139
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 6: just take a lot of wear and. Tear but bigger

2140
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 6: picture than, That, jaco it just seems, like for whatever,

2141
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 6: REASON i think a lot of teams can attest to

2142
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 6: this and they've experienced, it but it just seems like

2143
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 6: if you're on a football team going into a, season

2144
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 6: there's just that one, position, Right it's just the one

2145
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 6: position that just gets. Hammered and you, know unfortunately for

2146
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,280
Speaker 6: guys Like Chris ballard And Ed dodds and some of

2147
01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 6: the personnel folks within The, colts the problem is you

2148
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 6: just don't know going into the training camp what position

2149
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:03,840
Speaker 6: that's gonna. Be but inevitably it always seems like just

2150
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 6: one position just gets hammered more than any. Others, uh you,

2151
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 6: know a couple of years ago as wide receiver and

2152
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 6: now this year it's it's certainly.

2153
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:11,000
Speaker 4: Cornerback.

2154
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 1: Matt you were able to Call Matt taylor our guest

2155
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 1: as The colts And raiders get set On Sunday Lucas Oil.

2156
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 1: Stadium you know you were able to call the touchdown

2157
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 1: For Tyler warren, obviously but when you know by him

2158
02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 1: lining up in the, backfield and you, know we knew

2159
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 1: that that was going to be SOMETHING i think that

2160
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:28,440
Speaker 1: was going to be in the. Cards do you anticipate

2161
02:00:28,480 --> 02:00:30,760
Speaker 1: that we're going to start seeing that with more regularity

2162
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:36,200
Speaker 1: and not just even in short yardage. Situations regularity is

2163
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 1: maybe the wrong, word let me rephrase, that but but you,

2164
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:41,840
Speaker 1: know not it's not going to be the anomaly play if.

2165
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 6: You, Will, NO i don't think. So, YEAH i MEAN

2166
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:47,040
Speaker 6: i think it's going to become the regularity to your

2167
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:49,880
Speaker 6: point in short, yardage, DEFINITELY i definitely think you're going

2168
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:52,680
Speaker 6: to see that on third and short or goal line

2169
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:55,280
Speaker 6: or gotta have play in the red. ZONE i, mean

2170
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 6: think about. IT i mean he lined up in three

2171
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:01,680
Speaker 6: different positions plays in a, row, right he had. TO

2172
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 6: i think it was first down he lined up at tight.

2173
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:07,120
Speaker 6: End second, down then line them up at at quarterbacks

2174
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:09,400
Speaker 6: and the, wildcats and then third down they give it

2175
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:11,160
Speaker 6: to him on the belly lining up at full back

2176
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:14,720
Speaker 6: in the. Backfield so if my math is correct on

2177
02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:16,920
Speaker 6: all of this so far this, year he's lined up

2178
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:20,320
Speaker 6: out wide as a, receiver he's lined up as a slot,

2179
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:24,280
Speaker 6: receiver he's obviously lined up as an inline blocker as

2180
02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 6: a tight. End he's lined up at full, back he's

2181
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:28,840
Speaker 6: lined up at, tailback and he's lined up at.

2182
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:29,680
Speaker 4: QUARTERBACK i, mean.

2183
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:32,320
Speaker 1: It's, unbelievable right it. Is but you know that WAS

2184
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:34,760
Speaker 1: i mean that's How Penn state used, him, RIGHT i,

2185
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:38,400
Speaker 1: mean this isn't. It we knew it going, in but

2186
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:40,560
Speaker 1: to see it at THE nfl level is really something

2187
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:40,760
Speaker 1: for a.

2188
02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:42,160
Speaker 8: Rookie, yeah it really.

2189
02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:44,520
Speaker 6: Is AND i think it's gonna be fun for this

2190
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:47,440
Speaker 6: game On. Sunday you're gonna have both he And Brock

2191
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:50,400
Speaker 6: bowers on the field at the same. Time and you,

2192
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:52,720
Speaker 6: KNOW i kind of joked. INTERNALLY i, said, Well Brock

2193
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 6: bowers is you know he Was he was last year's

2194
02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 6: version Of Tyler, warren And Tyler warren is this year's

2195
02:01:58,960 --> 02:01:59,520
Speaker 6: version Of Brock.

2196
02:01:59,520 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 4: Power.

2197
02:01:59,880 --> 02:02:04,120
Speaker 6: Right you, know it's fun to see the versatility and

2198
02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 6: just kind of like that old school mentality of football

2199
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 6: where guys are asked to block and run and, catch

2200
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:12,280
Speaker 6: and you, know they're doing it all and they're making

2201
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:15,000
Speaker 6: it look like they're playing cyo football out there because

2202
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:17,960
Speaker 6: they're going both ways seemingly and catching the ball and

2203
02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:21,280
Speaker 6: just showing off their skill. Sets so it's really really

2204
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:24,120
Speaker 6: fun to. Watch but, YEAH i do think that you're

2205
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:27,360
Speaker 6: going to see even more creative ways to Get Tyler

2206
02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:29,880
Speaker 6: warren the. FOOTBALL i, MEAN i just go back to

2207
02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 6: That denver game AND i think we may have talked

2208
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 6: about this last. WEEK i, mean it's, incredible incredible to

2209
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:37,800
Speaker 6: me that the same guy who lined up as fullback

2210
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 6: and crammed it in on a two yard short yardage

2211
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:43,760
Speaker 6: first down conversion in that, game and then he did

2212
02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 6: that On sunday against The rams as, well near the

2213
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:48,880
Speaker 6: goal line for a. Touchdown but the same guy who's

2214
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 6: doing that is also lining up in the same formation

2215
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:56,240
Speaker 6: in the backfield next To Daniel, jones and is you,

2216
02:02:56,280 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 6: know going out for a pass and running a deep

2217
02:02:58,120 --> 02:03:00,480
Speaker 6: over and catching the ball downfield.

2218
02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:01,360
Speaker 4: For forty yards like?

2219
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:04,440
Speaker 6: That just that's that that doesn't to your, point it

2220
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:06,720
Speaker 6: should not happen at THE nfl, level but it. Is

2221
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 6: and that's how special this guy. Is and you, know

2222
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:13,960
Speaker 6: crazy to think. That already he leads THE nfl in

2223
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:17,560
Speaker 6: receiving yards among all tight. Ends and this is the

2224
02:03:17,600 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 6: one that just gets. Me he has the most receiving

2225
02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 6: yards by any colts player, ever regardless of, position through

2226
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 6: their first four games in franchise. History so already seven

2227
02:03:30,280 --> 02:03:32,640
Speaker 6: seventy receiving yards in three out of his first four,

2228
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:35,000
Speaker 6: games and just the sky's the. LIMIT i know that's,

2229
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 6: cliche BUT i think it's true For Tyler.

2230
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:39,080
Speaker 2: Warren how soon until we get like The Derrick henry

2231
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:41,480
Speaker 2: jump pass From Tyler, wayren BECAUSE i mean former quarterback

2232
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:43,200
Speaker 2: it's going to be in the playbook somewhere for him

2233
02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:44,720
Speaker 2: to throw a pass in a trick.

2234
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:46,240
Speaker 1: Play that is the.

2235
02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 6: Next, Step. Eddie you're exactly, Right that is the next

2236
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:50,960
Speaker 6: evolution of all this is we've seen him, run we've

2237
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:53,280
Speaker 6: seen him, catch we haven't seen him throw just. Yet

2238
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:58,000
Speaker 6: former high school. Quarterback, YEAH i mean maybe like a double,

2239
02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:00,560
Speaker 6: pass you line them up out, wide you put blockers

2240
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:02,120
Speaker 6: in front of them to give him some time to

2241
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:04,720
Speaker 6: throw it behind a line of, scrimmage or we do

2242
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:07,320
Speaker 6: The Tim tebow jump passes the line of, scrimmage you,

2243
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:09,640
Speaker 6: know near the goal. Line wouldn't be shocked at all

2244
02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:10,400
Speaker 6: to see any of those.

2245
02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 1: Things you know what Those, Matt what that's all listed

2246
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:14,880
Speaker 1: as is, Hybrid, right that's.

2247
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 6: It just like, YOU i, mean you're you're you're a

2248
02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:24,080
Speaker 6: turn three and ounter you're a talk show host and

2249
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:26,800
Speaker 6: you're also that you, know you're like you're Like Cordell

2250
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:27,360
Speaker 6: stewart on the.

2251
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:33,080
Speaker 1: Football you're, like we've we've exhausted the areas in WHICH i,

2252
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:34,040
Speaker 1: hybrid BUT i do.

2253
02:04:34,120 --> 02:04:34,480
Speaker 4: Hybrid.

2254
02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:39,680
Speaker 1: Right, hey what defensively, speaking you know when we talked

2255
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:42,360
Speaker 1: about the, corners the reality is, this and that is

2256
02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:45,560
Speaker 1: that they're going to be going up against an offense

2257
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:47,760
Speaker 1: in The raiders where we just talked TO. Jt The

2258
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:50,960
Speaker 1: brick about. This you, Know Geno smith has been turning

2259
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,720
Speaker 1: the ball over and maybe that means they become a

2260
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:56,520
Speaker 1: little bit more reliant on the run, game AND i

2261
02:04:56,520 --> 02:05:00,440
Speaker 1: Think genti's starting to show why he was selected where he.

2262
02:05:00,640 --> 02:05:04,600
Speaker 1: Was but in terms of The colts and their run, Defense,

2263
02:05:04,640 --> 02:05:06,800
Speaker 1: matt how would you critique it to this point and

2264
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:09,560
Speaker 1: are they going to be able to get penetration to

2265
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:10,840
Speaker 1: make that hit behind the?

2266
02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:15,760
Speaker 6: Line, yeah so, FAR i would classify it as pretty.

2267
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:19,480
Speaker 4: Good it also may be a little bit. Incomplete and

2268
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:20,240
Speaker 4: the reason WHY i.

2269
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:23,520
Speaker 6: Say incomplete is because if you look at the splits

2270
02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:26,720
Speaker 6: so far this, year The colts have been offensively getting

2271
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:30,080
Speaker 6: off to such a good start and getting big leads

2272
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:33,080
Speaker 6: in the first quarter and you, know maybe going up

2273
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:35,800
Speaker 6: by two scorers by the middle of the second, quarter

2274
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:38,879
Speaker 6: that it's putting a lot of stress on the opposing

2275
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:41,520
Speaker 6: offense to get back into the game and they're having

2276
02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 6: to throw the. Ball, so you, know the numbers allowed

2277
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:47,560
Speaker 6: by The colts defense is pretty. Good but if you

2278
02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:51,120
Speaker 6: look at the, minutia like the yards per, carry that's

2279
02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 6: not where they want it to, be if that makes.

2280
02:05:53,480 --> 02:05:56,320
Speaker 6: Sense so you, know they're not seeing the volume of

2281
02:05:56,480 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 6: runs like they did last year when they couldn't get

2282
02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 6: off the field on third down and the offense wasn't

2283
02:06:01,320 --> 02:06:04,160
Speaker 6: doing a very good job of gaining the lead in

2284
02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:04,560
Speaker 6: the first.

2285
02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:08,360
Speaker 4: Place so that's WHY i say it's a little bit.

2286
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:12,360
Speaker 6: Incomplete but you, Know Hyrian williams ran really hard the other,

2287
02:06:12,440 --> 02:06:14,520
Speaker 6: day and for the most, part they did a good

2288
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:14,960
Speaker 6: job on.

2289
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:17,000
Speaker 4: Him he still had some leakage.

2290
02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:19,320
Speaker 6: And some runs where he busted out for some big,

2291
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:21,520
Speaker 6: games but you, know for the most part they did

2292
02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:25,400
Speaker 6: a good job on him And Blake. Korum but you're

2293
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:28,680
Speaker 6: right on Genty. Man he looks like a beast and

2294
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:32,800
Speaker 6: he's a lottery pick top ten. Guy and ADMITTEDLY i

2295
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:35,040
Speaker 6: didn't watch a whole lot Of Boise state last, year

2296
02:06:35,080 --> 02:06:37,160
Speaker 6: So i'm kind of playing catch up on him to

2297
02:06:37,240 --> 02:06:40,680
Speaker 6: the draft process and just watching him on. TAPE i,

2298
02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:45,880
Speaker 6: mean this guy runs so hard and embraces. Contact there

2299
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:49,960
Speaker 6: was some viral stat going around prior to their game last.

2300
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 6: WEEK i saw where you, know he obviously busted out

2301
02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:56,200
Speaker 6: for like, wow buck forty against The, bears but prior to,

2302
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:59,120
Speaker 6: that in his first three games of the. SEASON i

2303
02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:03,320
Speaker 6: read where one hundred percent all of it, right one

2304
02:07:03,440 --> 02:07:07,400
Speaker 6: hundred percent of his rushing total on the season in

2305
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:11,640
Speaker 6: the first three games came on yack yards after. Contact

2306
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:14,880
Speaker 6: and that's just because he's a physical. RUNNER a BUT

2307
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:17,320
Speaker 6: b the offensive line wasn't doing a very good job

2308
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:19,800
Speaker 6: of opening up holes so he can get down the

2309
02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 6: field before he's you, know embracing tacklers and linebackers and

2310
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:25,840
Speaker 6: things like that in the second. Level so they're down

2311
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:28,520
Speaker 6: they're starting left Tackle Colton. Miller that is huge for,

2312
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:30,760
Speaker 6: them you, know talking to some of their people that

2313
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:33,160
Speaker 6: cover their, team you know they talk, about you, Know

2314
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:36,839
Speaker 6: Geno smith is you, know obviously instrumental in the passing.

2315
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:39,720
Speaker 6: Game genti's instrumental in the running. Game but maybe their

2316
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:44,160
Speaker 6: most important, player you, know guy that that they could

2317
02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:46,920
Speaker 6: most ill afford to lose Was, miller.

2318
02:07:46,640 --> 02:07:47,320
Speaker 8: And so he's ON.

2319
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:49,960
Speaker 6: Ir that's a big break for The. Colts so hopefully

2320
02:07:49,960 --> 02:07:51,120
Speaker 6: they can generate a pass.

2321
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:51,960
Speaker 4: Rush and get After Geno.

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Speaker 1: Smith, Now, Matt i'm not Saying i've gotten old or,

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Speaker 1: soft But i'm gonna be honest with. You, uh the

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Speaker 1: only THING i get after contact is. Leakage and a. Yak.

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02:08:00,320 --> 02:08:03,640
Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean that's that's the difference, age that's the

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Speaker 1: difference between that's my hybrid right, there, right.

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Speaker 6: All the, buzzwords you just collect, them that's, right and

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Speaker 6: you it's like a.

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Speaker 1: Hodgepot, okay let's be real here in. Conclusion AND i

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02:08:15,200 --> 02:08:16,880
Speaker 1: KNOW i probably say this to you every week because

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02:08:16,880 --> 02:08:18,600
Speaker 1: it's one of these weird THINGS i have when it

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02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:20,760
Speaker 1: comes to The National Football, League but let's be, real,

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02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:24,120
Speaker 1: especially AND i don't know what the color, scheme which

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02:08:24,160 --> 02:08:28,440
Speaker 1: one they go with this, weekend but the helmet design

2335
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:30,800
Speaker 1: and if they're wearing the black jerseys for The, raiders

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02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 1: probably as strong as any in the. League.

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02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:36,400
Speaker 6: RIGHT i could not agree, more could not agree. More

2338
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 6: And i'm also partial to it because my head football

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02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:52,480
Speaker 6: coach At Franklin college WHERE i, played he modeled our entire, program, uniforms, playbooks,

2340
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:55,920
Speaker 6: logo you name it after The. RAIDERS i mean all of,

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02:08:56,600 --> 02:08:57,680
Speaker 6: yeah all of our.

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02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:02,120
Speaker 1: But they're they're never Isn't franklin blue and. Gold we.

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02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:04,080
Speaker 6: Are BUT i mean if you looked at our, jerseys

2344
02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:08,320
Speaker 6: they were plain and simple like The, raiders big block.

2345
02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:12,680
Speaker 6: Letters we had a shield in the style of the

2346
02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:14,920
Speaker 6: of The. RAIDERS i mean he didn't Say raiders on the.

2347
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 6: Shield we had a shield that looked just like The raiders.

2348
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:22,560
Speaker 6: Logo our OFFENSE i think was Called Raider. FORCE i

2349
02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:24,760
Speaker 6: don't know what the obsession was with The, raiders but

2350
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:27,080
Speaker 6: it's just to your, point it's a classic look and

2351
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 6: one of the best brands in terms of professional. FOOTBALL i,

2352
02:09:32,600 --> 02:09:34,240
Speaker 6: mean it's just it's. Unmistakable you.

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02:09:34,240 --> 02:09:36,120
Speaker 1: Know, Actually Franklin, college WHEN i think of, THEM i

2354
02:09:36,120 --> 02:09:38,120
Speaker 1: think just win, baby, RIGHT i mean that's.

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02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 6: It's when The red fought run and Shoot Raider.

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02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:42,760
Speaker 8: Force there you.

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02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:44,720
Speaker 1: Go all. Right Matt taylor will be on the call

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02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:46,640
Speaker 1: On sunday and we will be listening to. It matt

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02:09:46,680 --> 02:09:49,080
Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always my.

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02:09:49,160 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 4: Pleasure, guys have a good.

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02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:52,040
Speaker 1: One I'm Matt, taylor the voice of The colt showing

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02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:54,240
Speaker 1: us on the. Program we come, back we'll find out

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02:09:54,280 --> 02:09:56,440
Speaker 1: What john's got lined. Up it's The, crossover brought to

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Speaker 1: One on A thursday and a glorious. Day this Is

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Speaker 1: eddie is playing right. Now one of those songs That

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Speaker 1: i've always said is just to like roll down the,

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Speaker 1: windows top, down and that's exactly what the, weather at

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Speaker 1: LIKE i assume still the. Same AND jmv is out

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Speaker 1: able to enjoy all of. It he's got a cast

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Speaker 1: of thousands along with, them friends of the, show friends

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02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,880
Speaker 1: of the, station and one of our favorite places up

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02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 1: In Fisher's John you are lined up for what's going

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02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:37,320
Speaker 1: to be a Spectacular Thursday.

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02:10:37,560 --> 02:10:40,800
Speaker 3: Parks Place, Pub Largendy Bourbon, Locks, Lenazila, keith the.

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Speaker 8: Shots we Got JOEL. A ericson here And i'm playing the.

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02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:46,600
Speaker 3: Role have you ever seen the Film Bad influence With

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Speaker 3: Rob low And James. Spader, Yep i'm The Rob. Low

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02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:52,920
Speaker 3: so we're going to be a Bad influence For Joel.

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02:10:53,200 --> 02:10:56,120
Speaker 3: Ericson he's been skeptical in the past for being a

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02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 3: part of a live, show and we thought we would

2385
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:02,000
Speaker 3: just go ahead and clinch epticism with a little bit

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02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 3: of fun With joel this.

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02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:04,440
Speaker 8: Afternoon so he is here.

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02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 1: All, right fair. Enough, see usually the beer faery arrives

2389
02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:09,760
Speaker 1: to bring him stuff in the, consent but you've got.

2390
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:12,440
Speaker 1: Better you and bread got better than, that, right we.

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02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 3: Do we've got the larceny, bourbon The Luno zuele tequila

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02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:17,840
Speaker 3: with our larceny bourbon locks And luno's will to kill the.

2393
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:21,920
Speaker 3: Shots and Also jake with the. Crossover we've got a

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02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:24,560
Speaker 3: very recognizable voice voice To.

2395
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:25,240
Speaker 8: Jake what's, Up?

2396
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:25,760
Speaker 4: Jake how you?

2397
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:25,960
Speaker 8: Giving?

2398
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:26,200
Speaker 3: Man?

2399
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:27,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy what's?

2400
02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:27,440
Speaker 4: Up?

2401
02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 8: Hey telmo's that time of?

2402
02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 4: Year Is? Jake?

2403
02:11:30,760 --> 02:11:32,960
Speaker 1: Hey, listen you're fired up for the, pacers aren't?

2404
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:33,000
Speaker 7: You?

2405
02:11:33,080 --> 02:11:36,800
Speaker 9: JIMMY i, am AND i understand it might be the

2406
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:41,040
Speaker 9: only one in Game bridge On november, third actually cheering

2407
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:43,480
Speaker 9: For Miles turner for a. Minute when you when you

2408
02:11:43,520 --> 02:11:45,240
Speaker 9: play your triput, videos.

2409
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:47,560
Speaker 8: You know, what he probably will be the only. One,

2410
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:48,640
Speaker 8: yeah he probably.

2411
02:11:48,680 --> 02:11:52,000
Speaker 3: Will he's gonna do that, Video, jake and his ass

2412
02:11:52,080 --> 02:11:52,560
Speaker 3: is gonna get.

2413
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:53,840
Speaker 8: Booed, Yeah and he's.

2414
02:11:54,080 --> 02:11:55,800
Speaker 1: Trying to walk it back a little. Bit but he's

2415
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:57,560
Speaker 1: doing it about as well As xavier And howard did

2416
02:11:57,600 --> 02:11:59,640
Speaker 1: the last couple of games going, backwards, RIGHT i, MEAN.

2417
02:11:59,680 --> 02:12:02,640
Speaker 3: I think he's getting that sound advice from the reps

2418
02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:03,360
Speaker 3: Of Victor ola.

2419
02:12:03,440 --> 02:12:05,160
Speaker 8: DEPOT i think at this point right, now.

2420
02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:08,040
Speaker 1: You're you're right about, that no, question all, Right so

2421
02:12:08,040 --> 02:12:09,840
Speaker 1: what do you guys got lined up over the next couple?

2422
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:11,120
Speaker 1: Hours really?

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02:12:11,200 --> 02:12:15,200
Speaker 8: Quick another recognizable, Voice jake right? Here voice hell Ol,

2424
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:16,080
Speaker 8: Jake this Is Derek.

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02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:16,480
Speaker 1: White how you?

2426
02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:16,760
Speaker 4: Doing?

2427
02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:19,160
Speaker 1: Eric are you? Now? DEREK i got to know this.

2428
02:12:19,240 --> 02:12:22,720
Speaker 1: Man uh do you In october when they're not, playing

2429
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:25,080
Speaker 1: which is doesn't happen, often do you put The brave's

2430
02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:27,320
Speaker 1: hat up for the for the fall or do you still?

2431
02:12:27,400 --> 02:12:30,200
Speaker 1: ROCKET i still.

2432
02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:32,400
Speaker 10: Rocket it's been a long time since they have not

2433
02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:35,120
Speaker 10: made the, playoffs So i'm waiting for. Basketball you know,

2434
02:12:35,160 --> 02:12:36,760
Speaker 10: what der have a New we do not have a

2435
02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:38,960
Speaker 10: brave New braves coach coming. IN i don't know who's

2436
02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:39,160
Speaker 10: going to.

2437
02:12:39,200 --> 02:12:41,760
Speaker 1: Be, listen you need to get yourself for A rebels hat,

2438
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:43,400
Speaker 1: though Because Old miss had a pretty big win over

2439
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:45,920
Speaker 1: over last weekend in. Football so you're good in that

2440
02:12:46,280 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 1: toddy number Four. Rebels i'm ready to. Go there you?

2441
02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:52,840
Speaker 1: Go they? Are they up to four man lane kiffins.

2442
02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:54,880
Speaker 10: Too high and it makes it they're too high and

2443
02:12:54,920 --> 02:12:56,640
Speaker 10: it makes me very nervous that they're going to flop this.

2444
02:12:56,680 --> 02:12:59,960
Speaker 1: Weekend well who do they have this? Weekend who's? All

2445
02:13:01,400 --> 02:13:02,360
Speaker 1: who Does Old miss have this?

2446
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:05,040
Speaker 10: Problem you know WHAT i think it's too, lane so

2447
02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:07,200
Speaker 10: we shouldn't didn't have too much trouble with.

2448
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:09,960
Speaker 1: You you're finding that regard no. Question all, Right, Derek

2449
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:12,360
Speaker 1: you're in charge of babysitting the guys. Today? Okay is that?

2450
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:16,080
Speaker 10: Cool that MEANS i can't drink the free samples that

2451
02:13:16,120 --> 02:13:17,840
Speaker 10: will be flowing with here and.

2452
02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:21,120
Speaker 1: Heels you're, good of, course enjoy, well Put jimmy's in.

2453
02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:25,280
Speaker 1: Charge jimmy's in charge of. Babysitting, uh all, Right, john

2454
02:13:25,320 --> 02:13:26,520
Speaker 1: we'll throw it out to you in a couple of.

2455
02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:28,520
Speaker 1: Minutes you guys have. Fun that'll be a ton of

2456
02:13:28,560 --> 02:13:32,360
Speaker 1: fun parks place up In fisher's awesome. Location john will

2457
02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:34,520
Speaker 1: be with you there for the remainder of the. Day

2458
02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:36,360
Speaker 1: we'll be back with you and. TOMORROW i Think Stephanie

2459
02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:39,360
Speaker 1: white's gonna join us tomorrow and we will of course

2460
02:13:39,400 --> 02:13:42,520
Speaker 1: continue previewing Coltson. RAIDERS i thank you for listening To Querying.

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Speaker 1: Company