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Speaker 1: Lie from the Heart Byer and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 1: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: I never said you couldn't say what you want to say.

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Speaker 2: You could say anything you choose to say. There are

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Speaker 2: consequences for your actions. You've got an employer and you're

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Speaker 2: taking talking about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and you're saying, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you might lose your job. Like let's say you're a

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Speaker 2: of Charlie Kirk was nothing.

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Speaker 3: More than karma. You might lose your job. That happened.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the left is in levels of outrage,

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Speaker 2: firing people. This is what the Nazis did. They're always

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Speaker 2: calling you a Nazi. So good job in bringing down

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Speaker 2: the rhetoric. Now, I should be clear that it is

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Speaker 2: not every single Democrat, every single leftist, every single progressive

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Speaker 2: who is ratcheting things up, cheering the murder, the assassination

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Speaker 2: It isn't. But it's enough to make you take notice.

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Speaker 2: It's enough to make you say, isn't the real story

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Speaker 2: here that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a guy who

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Speaker 2: got radicalized at the age of twenty two, who lived

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Speaker 2: with a man who claimed to be a woman, and

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Speaker 2: they were both into the idea of dressing up as annamimals.

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Speaker 2: Furries kids, they're called furries tony kats, tony kats today.

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Speaker 3: Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: And while we may joke about some things like furries

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Speaker 2: I don't mind people having a fetish. Everybody's got a fetish.

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Speaker 2: Everybody has the thing that they're into. Some are acceptable and.

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Speaker 3: Some are not, and some are dangerous and some are not.

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Speaker 2: But if you are involved with someone who thinks that

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Speaker 3: And it is clear that the.

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Speaker 2: Suspect in this case, again I do not use names,

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Speaker 2: this twenty two year old, who grew up in a

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Speaker 3: By what? By how many?

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Speaker 2: These are all questions, But is there any real difference

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Speaker 2: I came from a normal home, and now I want

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Speaker 2: to kill all Western civilization because I'm in Islamist. The

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Speaker 2: radicalized from any spot, brainwashed from any spot. They were

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Speaker 2: just normal young girls until they met Charlie Manson. If

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Speaker 2: you want to think that somehow this is new, well

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Speaker 2: this is far from new. If you want to ask

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Speaker 2: that's a worthy question. And when I see as I

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Speaker 2: there on YouTube, YouTube, dot com, slash, Tony Katz, Facebook,

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Speaker 2: Tonykats Radio, Twitter x Tony Katz, it's radicals and extremists

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Speaker 2: You are more than welcome to do so. A riot,

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Speaker 2: And considering half the people you threw in jail were

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Speaker 2: No, it is not both sides, and we are not

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Speaker 3: The thing as it is. When Ilhan Omar was shown

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Speaker 3: That wasn't the conversation.

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Speaker 2: No one wants to hear about your Islamophobia, nonsense talk,

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Speaker 2: It was about something specific with ilhan Omar, and then

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Speaker 2: This is about people being radicalized to a level of progressiveness,

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Speaker 2: they disagree with. This is indeed what happened. The shooter

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Speaker 2: And as Senator Senator sorry, Governor Spencer Cox from Utah explains,

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Speaker 3: Cheer. They're singing songs things I can't play for you

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Speaker 2: They're excited, they're thrilled, they're overjoyed. Ha ha, I got

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Speaker 2: We have to get through this, and that is going

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Speaker 3: We should turn left, not right. No one stop it.

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Speaker 2: You wandered forty years in the desert to get rid

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Speaker 3: That's why you did it.

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Speaker 2: generations to get the hate out of their heads. What

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Speaker 2: makes you think that a political left ideology that for

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Speaker 2: And then, of course you have the Dobbs decision in

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Speaker 2: the overturning of Roe v. Wade, which for fifty years

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Speaker 2: the left was taught was their religion. Religion was terrible,

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Speaker 2: but abortion was a religion. That's what they were taught,

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Speaker 2: That's what they were shown. You think that you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get now all of a sudden, these people say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we were not going to be so hateful now. There

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Speaker 2: is no one who disagrees with the reality that there

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Speaker 3: Clear they are going to be further attacks.

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Speaker 2: Just take a look at the reactions, take a look

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Speaker 2: engaged and what excites them. This was Jamel Hill, who

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Speaker 4: Suspect has been identified as Tyler Robinson, twenty two years old.

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Speaker 4: And of course, as you all know, in the wake

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Speaker 3: Dude love guns, raised by two parents, lived in a

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Speaker 4: Dad is a minister, also a sheriff. Didn't check it

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Speaker 2: She's excited that the guy is white, doesn't ask why

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Speaker 3: Doesn't ask why do you do this?

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Speaker 2: Nope, that's actually wanting to dig in to understand.

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Speaker 3: But Jamel Hill is only surface.

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Speaker 2: Jamel Hill's level of depth doesn't get past Melanin, never will.

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Speaker 2: So we say, civil society can say, hey, here's how

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's assassin was white. I wonder if I took

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Speaker 2: how many of those killers were white?

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Speaker 2: How did he get radicalised?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to blame Jamel Hill, but cheering,

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Speaker 2: Thank goodness, it was a white guy.

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Speaker 2: That is part of the disease culture that's causing the problems.

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Speaker 3: A government shutdown. We have to do this. We have

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Speaker 3: to do that. You know, people may not get paid.

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Speaker 2: Every time, every single time. Figure it out. Just go

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Speaker 2: about creating a budget like a bunch of grownups, and

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Well, Tony, the militarys are gonna get paid.

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Speaker 2: I know this. Now what do you want me to do?

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Speaker 2: You won't believe your ears. You won't believe your ears

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Speaker 2: Does this ever happen to anybody before? Has anybody heard

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Speaker 2: So what's happening is a cooling fan that runs even

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Speaker 2: What a weird thing? I mean, I wonder if you're

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Speaker 3: That is cold. That is cold, although the.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats today smoking the Trace compadres from

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Speaker 2: christof Cigars, Excellent cigar for the midday, Nice and easy.

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Speaker 3: Tony Kats Tony Kats today. Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do smoke cigars during the show. I don't

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Speaker 5: Me.

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Speaker 2: I have myself a cigar. Will we see sanctions taking

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Speaker 2: place against the Russians. Well, President Trump wants it, says

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Speaker 3: Is arguing for it. We need these sanctions right away.

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Speaker 6: You can thank the good fuck.

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Speaker 2: That have to do it. But well, them, they're not

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Speaker 7: NATO has to get together, Europe has to get together

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Speaker 3: Full full four. But Europe is buying oil from Russia.

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Speaker 7: I don't want them to buy oil. And these sanctions

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Speaker 3: And I'm willing to do sanctions, but they're going to.

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Speaker 2: Have to tough enough.

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Speaker 7: Their sanctions commensurate with what I'm doing.

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Speaker 7: You want to move ahead and to NATO and there, Well,

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Speaker 7: I'm ready to move ahead, but they have to do it.

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Speaker 7: But right now they're talking and they're not doing They

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Speaker 7: look they're buying oil from Russia. We're not buying from Russia.

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Speaker 7: They're buying a lot of oil from Russia.

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Speaker 3: That's not the deal. Buying oil from Russia is of

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Speaker 2: And I don't know exactly how much oil they're buying

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Speaker 2: Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, saying that he absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely favors the idea of sanctions.

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Speaker 6: When Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, says, as he

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Speaker 8: Well, listen, I do believe that desperate times called for

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Speaker 8: I think there's a big appetite for that in Congress.

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Speaker 8: And I'm anxious to do it personally, are.

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Speaker 3: You waiting for the present?

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Speaker 2: You should? You should do it, You should go about

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Speaker 2: And then if there are more sanctions, if it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: The baseline question here, which is about sanctions, which is

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Speaker 2: Ukrainian drones hit an oil refinery. The Ukrainians have been

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Speaker 3: You save Ukrainian lives. This is the theory of the Ukrainians.

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Speaker 2: I think that when you see this though, just like

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Speaker 2: This really does give the the the our people reason

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Speaker 2: nothing's changed. Putin hasn't stopped, Zelenski hasn't stopped. No one's

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Speaker 3: Let them kill each other. Who actually cares. I am

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Speaker 2: I am saying that it is clear to understand where

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Speaker 2: These guys won't stop killing each other. Let them kill

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna pay attention to that. I'm not giving

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's the best argument.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you allow unfettered Russian aggression, Tony. I

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Speaker 2: And the latest one was, you know, he's a coke fiend.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, but Robert Downey Jr. Was a coke fiend

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Speaker 2: was it coke? What were the drugs he was on.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to disparage the guy.

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Speaker 2: The point is there was a time he was doing

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Speaker 2: and allow the attack? Well, we don't have a treaty

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Speaker 3: We don't have this. We don't have that.

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Speaker 2: We certainly gave them a lot of lip service and

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Speaker 2: And I think the thing that the people in Magaville

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Speaker 3: Then say, see, this is the Neo conway.

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Speaker 2: Is we put ourselves in these places to stop these

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm approaching that well. By the way, I'm

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Speaker 2: not disparaging Robert Downey Jr. Who has made a heck

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Speaker 3: I could have used any other examp. Hunter was too easy.

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Speaker 2: I needed to talk about somebody who came back and

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Speaker 3: I have no idea if Hunter has come back from

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Speaker 2: If the plan is hey, it's two nations having nothing

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's valuable. As we should be asking

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Speaker 2: Russia owning Ukraine affects US because we're a NATO ally

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Speaker 2: and they'll come after these nations next. You want the buffer.

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Speaker 2: This is good, this is better. It's bad enough, we've

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Speaker 3: Can't you have to protect you.

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Speaker 2: Which is why I have said, for example of South

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Speaker 2: Central American country into the US to enter.

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Speaker 3: No that you have a country, you have to go

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Speaker 3: fight for it.

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Speaker 2: I see single able bodied Chinese men coming to the

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Speaker 2: net in States as what refugees.

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Speaker 3: No back you go, no.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no no way.

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Speaker 3: Anybody who trusts that is out of their mind. You

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Speaker 3: have to go fight for your nation. Now the question

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Speaker 3: is should we assist at any level of a fight.

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Speaker 2: And that's where it has always been for me with Ukraine,

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Speaker 2: and I said, I will give them bullets, I will

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Speaker 2: give them guns, I will give them tanks, but I'm

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Speaker 2: not giving them any people. And even when we've discussed

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Speaker 2: the idea of patriot systems and misdefense systems, that's going

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Speaker 2: to require Americans on the ground to work these systems.

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Speaker 3: I have real issue with that.

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Speaker 2: But this started with the conversation of when you see

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Speaker 2: the Ukrainians going after Russian energy assets, and you see

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Speaker 2: the Russians continuing to engage drone attacks against key cities

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Speaker 2: and key areas. These guys don't want to stop. So

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Speaker 2: why is Trump in the middle of this whole thing?

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Speaker 2: He can't get them to stop. Now, Trump may his

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Speaker 2: bones by saying he can get them to stop, So

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Speaker 2: in his head he has to get them to stop.

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Speaker 2: He has to at least get him to stop for

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Speaker 2: an hour, and then if they start again, he can say, well,

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Speaker 2: I tried to get them to stop, but these crazy

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Speaker 2: people won't listen, which I think is the place he's heading.

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Speaker 2: As for why I won't put out a sanction till

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Speaker 2: they put out a sanction, I wonder how much of

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Speaker 2: that is in particular to the idea of Russia or

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Speaker 2: really sending a message elsewhere about if any nation should

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Speaker 2: buy Russian energy. And I still don't know if that

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Speaker 2: would stop the Russians from moving forward as they see it.

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Speaker 2: They believe they can win this thing. As they see it.

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Speaker 2: They can kill more Ukrainians than Ukrainians can kill Russians.

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Speaker 2: That said, Russia has paused gasoline exports, declaring on that

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Speaker 2: there will be a full band until September thirtieth, and

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Speaker 2: then a partial band affecting traders in intermediaries and talk

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Speaker 2: Chober thirty first, meaning there are areas in Russia where

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Speaker 2: the gas stations have run dry, which means this attack

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Speaker 2: on the energy is going to put pressure on Putin

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Speaker 2: through a very unhappy populace that can't run their tractors

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Speaker 2: for cars or anything else. Maybe it'll have an effect

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Speaker 2: to bring Russia to the table. I just haven't seen

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Speaker 2: any proof that it will. And I have to believe

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Speaker 2: that Trump doesn't want to be a guy who says

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Speaker 2: these people are crazy. Let him fight it out until

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Speaker 2: it's over. He doesn't want it because he made the

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Speaker 2: promise that he could stop it. But I think this

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Speaker 2: whole thing with the sanction, I'll wait for the let's

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Speaker 2: see if the Europeans do it. I think he's wondering

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Speaker 2: whether he's just wasting his time at the stage of

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Speaker 2: the game. I think that's part at least of the story.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today. Interesting

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Speaker 2: story about retirement. As we were just chatting in the

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Speaker 2: in the chat room about the idea of where does political.

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Speaker 3: Violence come from? And where is it happening?

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Speaker 2: And really this this conversation of if we're honestly going

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Speaker 2: to address things, then we have to honestly address things.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you. You cannot murder assassinate Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk and then say, well, you know there's political violence

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Speaker 2: on both sides. No, you have to come out and

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Speaker 2: denounce the assassination.

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Speaker 3: And that has not happened.

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Speaker 2: Since he is now the former president, one could agree

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Speaker 2: that the leader of the Democratic Party is still Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Would you do me a favorite producer landon?

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Speaker 2: Well, you check Twitter x, we you check Facebook, we

510
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Speaker 2: check any news reports. Has Joe Biden said anything about

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Speaker 2: the assassination of Charlie Kirk?

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Speaker 3: The what about ism?

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Speaker 2: It happens on both sides is a conversation that could

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Speaker 2: happen later, and it's a conversation I don't even mind

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00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: but to say, well, look at all what the right's doing.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: It is this murderer, This kid who came from a

518
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Speaker 2: seemingly very normal home, got radicalized, took to a rooftop

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Speaker 2: and assassinated Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 3: How does that happen?

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00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: What was the cause of that? And it is obvious

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Speaker 2: from the things inscribed. I'm the having of the trans boyfriend,

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Speaker 2: one can say there was a radicalization that took place.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: Is the last report being assisting the police. The suspect

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Speaker 2: is not in any way, shape or form right, the

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Speaker 2: suspect is not By the way, President Biden, there is

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Speaker 2: no place in our country for this kind of violence.

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Speaker 3: It must end now.

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Speaker 2: Jill and I are praying for Charlie Kirk's family and

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Speaker 2: loved ones. Well, that's very very sweet to put out

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Speaker 2: on the day of What do you mean this kind

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Speaker 2: of violence though, And this is exactly the points even

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Speaker 2: he won't say violence from the left must end. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's because you said that Donald Trump is the greatest

536
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Speaker 2: threat to our democracy. Maybe it's because you said Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is a genuine threat to this nation. He's a

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Speaker 2: threat to our he's a threat to our democracy. He's

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Speaker 2: literally literally a threat to everything America stands for. You

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00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: said that on June twenty eighth, twenty twenty four. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's because in December of twenty twenty three, you said

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Speaker 2: Trump poses many threats to our country. The right to

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Speaker 2: choose civil rights, voting rights in America is standing in

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Speaker 2: the world. But the greatest threat he poses is to

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Speaker 2: our democracy. If we lose that, we lose everything. You

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Speaker 2: called them a threat to the democracy. You said in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two that Donald Trump and Maga Republicans are

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Speaker 2: a threat to the very soul of this country. EU

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Speaker 2: jinen people up. They then internalize it and engage the

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Speaker 2: act of violence. And then you go about both sides

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Speaker 2: and it about there's no place in our country for

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Speaker 2: this kind of violence. Now the political left must stop

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Speaker 2: being violent. That would have been the answer, President Biden.

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Speaker 2: But you don't do that.

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Speaker 3: We see you. We're not buying in.

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00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: You. You can't win this battle with us. We've seen

557
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: it too often. Keep it here.

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Speaker 3: It's Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 1: Line from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats today. I have said before.

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Speaker 2: And I will say again that Pete Buddha Judge is

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00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: the smarmiest dude for mimmy, I also have to get

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Speaker 2: to this real estate story.

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00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 3: A smarmy, smarmy.

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00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: Guy, indecent, a fraud of a human being, a guy

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Speaker 2: who is solely focused on every single level with what

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Speaker 2: happens to his career and is not connected to actually

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Speaker 2: caring about the nation. Allow me to prove it, Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, good to.

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Speaker 3: Be with you.

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Speaker 2: You could not have been worse at running the Department

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Speaker 2: of Transportation than Pete Udo Judge, the guy who would say, look,

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Speaker 2: I'm riding my bike to the office.

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Speaker 3: But didn't show you that.

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Speaker 2: The SUVs would take him to about like less than

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Speaker 2: half a mile from from work, and they'd park and

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Speaker 2: then he'd pull out the bike.

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Speaker 3: And then he'd ride. You never saw that video. The

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Speaker 3: video is gold gold.

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00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: He adopts children with his husband and then they're taking

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00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: pictures like they just gave birth. Sorry, sorry, that's just

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00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: that's just ugly and weird and all sorts of nonsensical.

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Speaker 3: But this one was the big one. This is the.

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Speaker 2: One that's going to make you scream, And I don't

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Speaker 2: want you to scream and if you're driving, I want

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Speaker 2: your hands on ten and two. I want you to

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00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: be focused. This is the headline. X Transportation Secretary Pete

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Speaker 2: Buddha Judge.

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Speaker 3: The story from the Washington Times.

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00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: X Transportation Secretary Pete Buddha Judge says.

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00:37:53,680 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: Biden should not have run for real election. Why not,

592
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: mister secretary? Why not?

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00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: Why should Joe Biden not have run for reelection? Was

594
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: there something wrong with Joe Biden? Was there an issue?

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00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: Did you know something? If you knew something, why didn't

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Speaker 2: you tell us?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I thought if you see something, you say something.

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00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: So why oh why did you not tell us anything?

599
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 2: Is it because you are such a craven political monster.

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00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: That your chance to run for.

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Speaker 2: President, your chance to have power, was so important to you,

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00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: and the country of such little importance to you, Like

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Speaker 2: we know the people of East Palacine, Ohio were of

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Speaker 2: such little importance to you, like we know the ports

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Speaker 2: of Los Angeles and Long Beach were of such little

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Speaker 2: importance to you.

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00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: However, declaring highways racist that was very important to you.

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Speaker 2: All these things mattered so little, and your power mattered

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00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: so much that who cares what happens to the country

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Speaker 2: as long as you get yours.

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Speaker 9: In his own words, you were in the president's cabinet,

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Speaker 9: of course, do you believe it was recklessness for President

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Speaker 9: Bidens in our circle not to intervene sooner?

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Speaker 10: He should not have run, And if he had made

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Speaker 10: that decision sooner, we might have been better off. But

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Speaker 10: it literally was his decision. Nobody else was able to

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Speaker 10: make that decision.

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Speaker 2: What the bloody heck does that mean? It literally was

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Speaker 2: his decision. Nobody else could have made that decision. If

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Speaker 2: the cabinet had come out and said, this guy is

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Speaker 2: not all right. If the cabinet had just put the

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Speaker 2: country first, put morality first, put decency first, put being

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Speaker 2: normal first, and.

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Speaker 3: Said this guy's not all right. You think he would

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Speaker 3: have run. You think you think he'd be the nominee.

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Speaker 2: You think he could have given cover to a lot

627
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Speaker 2: of people who already knew that this guy wasn't okay.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't okay, But you.

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Speaker 2: Said nothing because you wanted power or worse, you're such

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Speaker 2: an absolute coward. Pete booda judge that you couldn't bring

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Speaker 2: yourself to be honest because it might mean some people

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Speaker 2: say some not nice things about you and you need

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00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: these people say nice things about you and maybe give

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Speaker 2: you donations to future camp pains. I don't know, maybe

635
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Speaker 2: for governor of Michigan, maybe for president, like you're ever

636
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Speaker 2: gonna be president.

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Speaker 3: Against the left, who the bloody heck knows what they'll do.

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00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: Because they won't look in respectively, they won't look at say,

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Speaker 2: you know, if he had just been somebody of strength,

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00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: maybe Joe Biden doesn't run. Maybe Kamala Harrison has more

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00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: than one hundred and seven days, maybe she learns that

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Speaker 2: actually campaign, Maybe we get somewhere, or maybe just maybe

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Speaker 2: the Democrat says, if these people have been honest about

644
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: Joe Biden, we could have had a real primary and

645
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Speaker 2: we could have picked a candidate who could win. But

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Speaker 2: because you people, Judge and the rest of your cabinet

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00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: are such a bunch of anti American cowards, you screwed

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Speaker 2: over the fourteen and a half million Democrats who already

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00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: voted for Joe Biden in the primary. You prevented an

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Speaker 2: honest primary from taking place where other candidates could have

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Speaker 2: come to the fore.

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Speaker 3: You know, people of strength and character.

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Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. It's a Democratic party. There

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00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: is no strength in character, but compared to people, Buddha Judge,

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Speaker 2: these people are amazing. You screwed over all those people,

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Speaker 2: you Rogerdham, But could is what you did, Secretary Buddha Judge.

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Speaker 2: You hurt these people, You prevented them from having their say.

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Speaker 2: And now months later, after the books have already been written,

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Speaker 2: and Kamala Harris writes her book about one hundred and

660
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: seven days and says, I think it was reckless for

661
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 2: Joe Biden to run again.

662
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Speaker 3: She's calling them reckless.

663
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Speaker 2: She could have come out and said this guy can't

664
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Speaker 2: run the country twenty fifth Amendment. Who's with me? She

665
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: could have done it, could have done it quietly. There

666
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: were a lot of ways to do such a thing.

667
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: Nothing I was at. I was gonna get into this,

668
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: lad we'll do it now. I was at an event

669
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 2: over the over the weekend, the Hoosier Leadership for America's

670
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: Summit was put on by Senator Jim Banks. Full disclosure.

671
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: I was not paid a dime to do any of this.

672
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: There was a dinner they paid. I am as upfront

673
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 2: as anybody else about these things. I was not handed

674
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: a check. I did. I did have a meet ball.

675
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: There is this conversation about leadership came out and came

676
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: up and I was talking. I was one of the

677
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: speakers there regarding media and leadership and how does media

678
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: work to build the next generation of of of leadership.

679
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 3: To the extent that.

680
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: To the extent that we could the extent that I

681
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: believe that that this show is doing just that.

682
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: And I stated that part of leadership is not about.

683
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: Pretending that something in your past didn't happen. It's not

684
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: about pretending, hey, I never made this mistake or I

685
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: never said this thing. Rather, it's about saying I did

686
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: say this, or I did do this, and here's what

687
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: I've learned since then. It's not that America is going

688
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: to ruin you for doing something they disagree with. It's

689
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: not that they're going to ruin you because you have

690
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: changed your mind. Very often happens like that, and it

691
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: happens that you know, I used to think this, and

692
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: I think that, Oh you can't trust him.

693
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: Look how he changed his mind.

694
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: Normal people do learn things and grow from those experiences.

695
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: They do. Normal people.

696
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: They are like, well, I tried this and that didn't work,

697
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: and now I do that. How do you think liberals

698
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: become conservatives. They lived it, they experienced it, and they said,

699
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: wait a second, this isn't working, This isn't what was advertised,

700
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: this isn't what I was told. And then they're like, wait,

701
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: there's a better way. So if you see somebody, if

702
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: you hear somebody's like, well I used to think this

703
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: and now I think that, well, it's not flip flopping.

704
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: That is here's here's how I came to it. As

705
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: long as you can engage that, to me, that's a

706
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: huge part about leadership. So being able to say this

707
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: is where I was, and then I saw this data,

708
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: engage these facts and not only led in one direction,

709
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: and therefore this is the better way because the data

710
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 2: showed me so. And I think that if we're doing

711
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: anything here, engaging the concepts of leadership, because I very

712
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: much believe in the people being the leadership, and I

713
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: believe that the leadership that exists, the elected leadership, is

714
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: nothing more than registering what it is we're doing.

715
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 3: Right.

716
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Speaker 2: This is the difference between the thermometer and the thermostat.

717
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 2: A thermometer measures temperature, a thermostat changes temperature. Politicians are thermometers.

718
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 2: They're measuring the heat or lack thereof no heat, no movement.

719
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: We are thermostats, We change the temperature, and the politician

720
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 2: responds accordingly.

721
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Speaker 3: That's what happens.

722
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 2: In few instances you actually have political leaders who stand

723
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: up and say this is wrong, and I'm not putting

724
00:46:59,680 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: up with it.

725
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: This is wrong, and we have to fight against this.

726
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: Here's why I believe what I believe, even if it's unpopular.

727
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 2: Certainly one could argue, if we want to talk about

728
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: the political left for a moment, has or has not

729
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: Senator John Fetterman or Congresmen Richie Torres on the subject

730
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: of Israel alone engaged the level of leadership.

731
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 3: We can't be on the side of terrorists, and we

732
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: can't be on the.

733
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: Side of terrorizing students who are Jewish on college campuses.

734
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: I wish John Fetterman would have engage some leadership on

735
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: the idea of children changing their gender and mutilation and

736
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: chemical castration. But to say it out loud to all

737
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: of these these horrible, hateful people, you're wrong, and here's why.

738
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: Here's the moral standard. It's leadership for you to say

739
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: so on your social media pages to your children. I mean,

740
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: who's leading your children, who's leading that's you, right, What

741
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: is it.

742
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 3: That you are are modeling for them? That's the leadership.

743
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: I have no idea if this show has ever inspired

744
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: leadership or or has created an example of leadership. And

745
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: if it has, I assume the only way it could

746
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: be done is whether the position is popular or unpopular.

747
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: If I favor an idea or a thought, I say so,

748
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: and I share why. And there's a value in that,

749
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: massive value. But it comes from not hiding who you

750
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: were before. And I don't have the book in front

751
00:48:51,560 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: of me from David Mammon, the chapter on the Shapewski story,

752
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 2: the Sheperrevsky story, I should say, is incredible and I'll

753
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: share it another time. You can't say, or you can't

754
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: put out there that you engage leadership or want to

755
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: share in leadership or have leadership abilities when the moment

756
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: is tough, and you hid when the moment was tough

757
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: and you didn't say so, right, you must say so.

758
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 3: Pete Bootera Judge, in stating.

759
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: This, is saying that he never engaged an ounce of leadership.

760
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 3: He said it was a mistake.

761
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: For Biden to run for reelection, but never still that

762
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 2: Joe Biden shouldn't run for reelection. Did you care about

763
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,959
Speaker 2: the country at all? The answer is no. He cared

764
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: about his power. He cared about him, not we, and

765
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: that's not leadership. So the idea that he's saying this

766
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 2: now you're gonna sorry. You see even more Democrats. It's

767
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: like when they say, man, I can't believe how bad

768
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: Joe Biden was. I didn't notice it at first. It's

769
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: the whole Jake Tapper thing all over again. They think

770
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Speaker 2: that somehow this absolves them of what they've done, and

771
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: we know far better. No, it doesn't. On Tony Katz,

772
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Speaker 2: this is Tony Katz today. Missouri is going to redistrict.

773
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Speaker 2: Maybe they'll pick up a seat. I'll say it again,

774
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Speaker 2: I favor the redistricting. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good

775
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: to be with you. Find everything at Tony katz dot com,

776
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: lives streaming on the YouTube and on the X and

777
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: everywhere else. Heard in many many places around the country

778
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: and trying to grow. Hey, it's a tough road, but

779
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 2: we are tough people. Missouri has made this decision, and

780
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: I would like to see every red state and make

781
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: this decision. Did I always favor the redistricting when the

782
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: subject first came up. When the subject first came up,

783
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: it came up for my blove in Indiana, and.

784
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: I said, why are we discussing this.

785
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: We have seven of nine congressional districts in the Republican

786
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: hands already. I don't know if we need this, I

787
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: don't know how it would work. Then I saw California.

788
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: Now this all comes from Texas engaging a mid decade

789
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Speaker 2: redistricting where they believe.

790
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 3: They will pick up five Republican seats.

791
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 2: California responded by saying, we're going to redistrict and take

792
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Speaker 2: away five Republican seats.

793
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Speaker 3: That's an act of retribution.

794
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: Upon staring at the subject, studying the subject, redistricting is

795
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: a political process. Your local state reps can redistrict the

796
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 2: congressional maps, decide where the boundaries are. There's nothing wrong

797
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 2: with that, and the people of that state can then

798
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: vote out local representatives if they don't like what has happened.

799
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Speaker 2: You say to me, well, fat chance of that. I'm

800
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: telling you how the process works. The process of retribution

801
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: is an absolutely horrific process. But we have failed to

802
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: bring into account how districts look, how maps look, whether

803
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: it's the map of Illinois or whether it's the map

804
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: of California, the map of Illinois looks like Octopi humping.

805
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: There's tentacles going everywhere. It's the districts are nuts. No

806
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: rational district is drawn like that. But what happened is

807
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: is that leftist states engaged to redrawing of the lines,

808
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: gave them some the advantage, and then putant to place

809
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: these commissions on redistricting, really taking the power out of

810
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 2: the hands of the people and holding in place their

811
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: fiefdoms and their.

812
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: Power and their control. That's what they did.

813
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 2: So yes, I oppose that, and I opposed the idea

814
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: that somehow the political right has to play by some

815
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: rule the political left to set up, when they never

816
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: set it up for themselves, they're only setting it up

817
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: for others. Redistrict absolutely, it is indeed political.

818
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Speaker 3: And by the way, a gamble.

819
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: If you were to redistrict, for example, my state, to

820
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: try and win two other seats for Republicans, what happens

821
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: if you don't win, What happens if it costs you

822
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: somewhere else? Because you had to take a little bit

823
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: from this district, a little bit from that district, And

824
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: you misunderstood the map of course it's a risk. Of course,

825
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: it's a gamble. It's high stakes, as it was described

826
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: to me, and I agree with that terminology. But I

827
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: also believe it should be done. I believe that that

828
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: is part of this fight.

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00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: And it is a fights.

830
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Speaker 2: I know people don't want to use the words right now,

831
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Speaker 2: oh too violent, oh too soon.

832
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: It is, but it's a fight on the ballot box.

833
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: It's far different than Senator Chris Murphy saying something dark

834
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: is coming. You assassinated Charlie Kirk, that something dark is here.

835
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 3: States should redistricts and my state, Indiana.

836
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: Should call the special session, and very possibly your state

837
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 2: as well. This is Tony Kats Today. So this really

838
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: weird retirement story that I said i'd get to. So

839
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: this was over at Fox Business and it was about retirees.

840
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Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, Good to be with You.

841
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: Hundreds of Black whose City retirees reportedly left waiting for

842
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 2: months for pension payments. This story is awful, awful. Here's

843
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: how it works. So, first of all, Tony Kats, Tony

844
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: Kats Today, that's me. That's the name of the show.

845
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 2: Good to be with You Live streaming on the YouTube

846
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: heard in many places around this great nation, working on

847
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: more places on Twitter, exit Tony Cats follow me there.

848
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 3: So what happened was.

849
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: Was that about three hundred retired city employees in Houston.

850
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: Are waiting to receive their pension payments.

851
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: So what they were told is, hey, we'd like for

852
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: you to accept an early retirement.

853
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 3: They want to cut payroll, so accept the early retirement.

854
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: We're doing some reductions and we'll get you a retirement

855
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 2: package and we'll will get you these payments right away

856
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 2: and then then boom. So normally in Houston they have

857
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: thirty nine retirements a month, but more than a thousand

858
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: people accepted the buyout. They said, okay, we'll retire, we

859
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: will retire. Okay, Well they did it, and they were

860
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: told it'll be about thirty to sixty days before you

861
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: start receiving a pension payment, and they haven't yet, and

862
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: now they're talking about they're regretting retiring. I need the money.

863
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: I was told i'd have money. The money hasn't come.

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00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: The mayor is saying, sorry, that's not my job. The mayor,

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Speaker 2: John Whitmyer, pushed back against the system, stressing that he

866
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: has no authority over the fund well, if you have

867
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Speaker 2: no authority over the fund.

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Speaker 3: Why aren't you at least demanding the fund pay out

869
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 3: the people the way it's supposed to. What are these.

870
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 2: People supposed to do? You promise them something? Now, if

871
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: you want to argue they're fools for trusting the pension system,

872
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: you can, but doesn't change the fact that they will

873
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Speaker 2: promised something and it hasn't been delivered yet. How long

874
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: are you going to take addressing the issue. They brought

875
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: on additional staff and they've received more than thirteen thousand

876
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: calls regarding the missing payments.

877
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I believe that that is indeed.

878
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: True that you've received thirteen thousand calls. Keep an eye

879
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: on that. That is a very very large story right there.

880
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: As for cancel culture, we've been hearing a lot about

881
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: cancel culture after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and we're

882
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: seeing headlines like this this from News Nation Companies implement

883
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: social media policies after Charlie Kirk's death. I think for

884
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: a lot of companies, they were surprised that they would

885
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: have employees saying that they were employees with BIO saying

886
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: their employees saying, oh I'm glad he got assassinated. Look,

887
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: here's a guy in my chat room calling Kirk a bile, racist,

888
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 2: an anti American. Statements like that don't do anything. Make

889
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: your case. What did he say that was racist? What

890
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: did he say that was anti American? We'll wait, But

891
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: putting that out there doesn't do anything. It doesn't move anything.

892
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: I share it or here on the show as a

893
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: way of utilizing you as a part of the serious issue.

894
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: Claims and proclamations are not facts and data.

895
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 3: Till us explain.

896
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: Yourself, show your work, as the kids would say. The

897
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers football NFL had to fire somebody for being

898
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: glad that Charlie Kirk is dead, MSNBC, NASDAK, FEMA, the

899
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: secret Service, Delta Airlines, the CEO saying employees made social

900
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: media posts about Kirk's murder were suspended because the post

901
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: quote went well beyond healthy, respectful debate, and we're un

902
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: quote start contrast of our values and our social media policy.

903
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: The left is outraged by what it is that they're seeing.

904
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: They're outraged by the idea that they.

905
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 3: Would be held responsible to their words.

906
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 2: The question before us is why in the world would

907
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: you be amazed that you are held responsible. Well, Tony,

908
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: I was sold the conservatives don't believe in cancel culture.

909
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: They were so upset with cancel culture. And look at

910
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: everything happening now, look at these people being canceled. A

911
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 2: couple things, if I may, in the conversation of cancel culture,

912
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: no one ever said that you have the right to

913
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: speak and you have to deal with the reactions they'rein.

914
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: You say something that someone doesn't like, maybe they won't

915
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: listen to your radio show, maybe they won't come into

916
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: your business. That's absolutely positively true. Trying to destroy someone's

917
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: career for saying something you disagree with is something different.

918
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: So if somebody wants to come out there, like this

919
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: guy on Facebook, I'll put the you commented.

920
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm putting the comment up.

921
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: Nothing, by the way, should happen to this dude. Just

922
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: block them and move on. Kirk was a vile, racist

923
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: and anti American. You mean somebody can't notice that and say,

924
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: what is wrong with you?

925
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 3: Oh, this is the business you work out. I'm not

926
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 3: working there.

927
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: The left set the rules, and now the left doesn't

928
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: want to live by the rules, and I don't know

929
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: what I'm supposed to do with that information.

930
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 3: You said, this is the way it works.

931
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not pushing to get anybody fired for

932
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: the thing that they said. That's far different than whether

933
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 2: Delta feels it's in their best interest to have these

934
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: kind of people at their company, which they can feel

935
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: that they don't have to the out of these people

936
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: at their company.

937
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 3: You can go get mad with.

938
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 2: Delta all you choose, but really what we're discussing here

939
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: is you trying to make the statement that somehow there

940
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: should be no reaction and should be no response, and

941
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: how dare anybody actually respond when the left push cancel culture,

942
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 2: it's because they thought people on the right weren't being

943
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 2: what was it kind enough to women? They were all

944
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: guilty of me too. This is about assassination and people

945
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: cheering murder. Me not using the right pronouns is different.

946
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 2: Shooting somebody from two hundred yards is different than me

947
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: not calling you she when you have a beard. They're

948
01:02:50,520 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: different things, much much different things. Cheering death, Yeah, that's

949
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: that is some pretty obscene stuff. And it says if

950
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: the left wants to pretend that the thing that they

951
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: were talking about, was it the thing they're talking about

952
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 2: or the thing that the right is talking about somehow

953
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: doesn't count. I have a contract with my main radio company,

954
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: and then on the syndication side, there are things I

955
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: can't say or I'll be fired. You don't think that

956
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: every single one of these people working for let's say

957
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: Delta for example, didn't sign an employment contract.

958
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 3: That states this.

959
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 2: You want to be some faceless tweeve on social media

960
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: and say any vile thing you want, go right ahead.

961
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 2: I mean again, you can't call for hurting somebody. That's

962
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: the kind of stuff we simply don't allow in a

963
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: civil society. But we also don't allow shooting with people

964
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 2: we disagree with. And here we are, and it's happened

965
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: more than once. By the way, Dan Bongino, he is

966
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: the deputy director of the FBI, taken to the airwaves

967
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: of Fox News.

968
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 5: There appeared to have been multiple warning signs. You just

969
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 5: laid out some of them. There were people in his network,

970
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 5: friends and family who had stated that he had become

971
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 5: more political, that he had become at some parts. I

972
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 5: believe some of his coworkers had stated that he had

973
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 5: kind of detached himself when the topic of politics came

974
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 5: up and walked away from them. Family members said he'd

975
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 5: become more political, leading us to believe that this ideology

976
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 5: had had infected him and had taken.

977
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: Over, and he was just intent.

978
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 5: It appears from the data we've accumulated and the channel.

979
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 11: And that.

980
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 5: Note, which we have some evidence may have existed before,

981
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 5: based on the communications in that channel, that his target

982
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 5: was obviously going to be Charlie and that people knew

983
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 5: in advance. The question is, again, I which want to

984
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 5: go back to what you had asked before.

985
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 3: Did they know?

986
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 5: Were they sure this or did they hear this and

987
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 5: just write it off.

988
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: That's what we're going to have to find out. What

989
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 3: he's talking about here is this.

990
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 2: Very frightening idea that there may have been people who knew.

991
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 3: That this assassination.

992
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: Attempt was coming, and so there is there's this probe

993
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: that's now taking a look at whether or not pro

994
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: trands online groups knew this.

995
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 3: In advanced story over there at.

996
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 2: The Washington Post includes groups in online gaming communities Steam,

997
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 2: as well as a pro trans organization called Armed Queer's SLC.

998
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 3: They took down their Instagram after Kirk was killed.

999
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: Law enforcement sources said the investigator are examining leftist groups

1000
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: in Utah and online to figure out if they helped

1001
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: this suspect with the shooting.

1002
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 3: A conspiracy.

1003
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: When I first read the story, I didn't give it

1004
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: that much credence because it could be part of a

1005
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: whole bunch of things that are standard to be investigated.

1006
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: To hear the deputy director say that, well, investigate away.

1007
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: And as for people cheering his death, and I'm not

1008
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,479
Speaker 2: sharing every single thing that every single person has said,

1009
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: you cannot be surprised that that might cost you your job.

1010
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: This is not a question of free speech, but rather employers,

1011
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: indeed can state we have standards and cheering for death

1012
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: is not our standard. Does, however, seem to be a

1013
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: standard of way too many people on the political left

1014
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: keep it here. This is Tony Kats today when in

1015
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: doubt cost Co just me, oh, I know, I know,

1016
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: I know. They're still believers in the woke. But they

1017
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 2: are now bringing you chicken and waffles Kirkland signature chicken

1018
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: and waffles coming to the prepared food section. It'll be

1019
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 2: an eighteen dollars container, four pieces of chicken, four waffles,

1020
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: So basically it's four dollars and fifty cents per By

1021
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 2: the way, four waffles, four chicken thighs fried.

1022
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: That's for one. That no just me, No, not just me.

1023
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 2: That is for one right now, right now, I could do.

1024
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: For I could do chicken and waffles, Oh to I love.

1025
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 2: And it comes with the chicken four pizza chicken for waffles,

1026
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: and you also get the syrup, the maple syrup and

1027
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 2: hot honey, which hot honey is a little overdone. There's

1028
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 2: too many things doing hot honey these days and that

1029
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 2: should not happen. And then there is balsamic vinegar pearls.

1030
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 2: I want to say, for the record, yeah, I don't

1031
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 2: think I can. I don't think I can abide to this.

1032
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: And someone said add these to pizza, thank me later.

1033
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 3: Oh that.

1034
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 2: That that I can approve of. That would make perfect

1035
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: sense right there. And then pot pie full disclosure, full disclosure.

1036
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with chicken pot pie.

1037
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: I have never once said, man, you know what, I

1038
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 2: could really go for chicken pot pie. I think it's

1039
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: the kind of thing that Mom used to make that's

1040
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 2: perfect on a fall or winter day, like like Shepherd's

1041
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 2: pie and there's ground beef and there's mashed potatoes. You're like, oh,

1042
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 2: this is perfect. But I never woke up. It was like,

1043
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 2: you know what I could use? I could use some

1044
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 2: Shepherd's pie. I don't know if I'm alone in such

1045
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 2: a thing. If I don't know, Also if this is

1046
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: something you can get, oh, no, you take this home.

1047
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 3: You take it home. Like now, the pies they do

1048
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:39,879
Speaker 3: are excellent.

1049
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: I will admit the pumpkin pie from Costco is exceptionally good,

1050
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 2: exceptionally good. I yes, I'm going to try it.

1051
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 3: Of course I'm going to try it. Everybody knows that

1052
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 3: I'm going to try it.

1053
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that I have never I have never

1054
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: woken up and said pop, ye, that's from me. I've

1055
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 2: Also we should get into how I am an anti

1056
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 2: STEWI I don't understand Stu soup, I understand. I don't

1057
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: understand Stu.

1058
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1059
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 2: Maybe I've just never had a good one. Maybe that's

1060
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 2: maybe that's it.

1061
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 3: More. See we talk about all the hard hitting things.

1062
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 3: That's that's just who we are.

1063
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:34,440
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today.

1064
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: Line from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

1065
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. So this was the post on social media.

1066
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: Five NFL teams chose not to honor Charlie Kirk with

1067
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: a moment of silence today, and it lists the five teams.

1068
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: And now I guess we're supposed to ask what that

1069
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 2: means or what we want to do about it. Tony Katz,

1070
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, good to be with You find everything

1071
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: at Tony Katz dot com. Moving over to substack in

1072
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks, you'll find everything there a

1073
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: lot easier to navigate, a lot more enjoyable to utilize,

1074
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: and a lot more productive for us. Tony Katz dot

1075
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 2: com is the only place you need to be. So

1076
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 2: it lists the five teams, the Detroit Lions, the Indianapolis

1077
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 2: Colts that's where I'm at, the Cincinnati Bengals, the Baltimore Ravens,

1078
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 2: and the Minnesota Vikings. These teams, I guess, because they

1079
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 2: had home games, did not honor Charlie Kirk with a

1080
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: moment of silence. So I want to start with a

1081
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 2: with a basic first, I don't know. I didn't know

1082
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: that other teams did honor Charlie Kirk with a moment

1083
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 2: of silence. So it's actually a story about this Green

1084
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: Bay Packers did. I guess there was a decision from

1085
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 2: the League. I mean they did this on this was

1086
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 2: Thursday night. The National Football League acide you, please join

1087
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 2: us in a moment of silent reflection.

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01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 3: Following the murder of Charlie Kirk. The NFL condemns all

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Speaker 3: violence in our communities. It will take all of us

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Speaker 3: to stop hate. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the Giants, Cowboys, Rams, Titans, Patriots, Saltan's forty

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: nine Ers, Saints, Bill's Jets, they all did. And then Panthers, Cardinals, Eagles,

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01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 2: Chiefs they did. But yeah, so the Bengals against the Jaguars,

1094
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 2: the Lines against the Bears, the Steelers against the Seahawks,

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01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: but the Steelers were flying the flags at half staff.

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01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: Ravens Brown's Colts, Broncos, and then Falcons, Vikings. The Vikings

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01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 2: honored all victims of recent gun violence, including those impacted

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Speaker 2: at the Annunciation Catholic Church shooting.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that happened in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: So first the question is do they have to have

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01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: a moment of silence. Allow me to be the first

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01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: one on record to say no, not at all. They

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: don't have to do anything at all. No one does. Now,

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01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: if the president declares flags at half staff, the standard

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01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: is to fly the flag at half staff. The president

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01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: can do this for a whole series of things, and

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01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: that's what you do. You follow the lead in that one.

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01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 2: And I think the places that aren't doing that that

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01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 2: that's not a show of defiance, that's a show of

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01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: ugly crafts, nonsensical politics. And these are the people, and

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01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: I think important to note the ones who are saying,

1112
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 2: we're so okay with people we disagree with being murdered, assassinated,

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01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: slaughtered in front of their wife and children on television

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01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 2: and on video, that we're not going to put a

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01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 2: flag at half staff. We want everybody to know how

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01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: cool we are with it. I think it's a weird

1117
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 2: thing to be cool with. But this is what they're saying,

1118
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: this is what they're doing. So that's that's the flag.

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01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 2: But I do not know if these places needed a

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01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: moment of silence. I don't know if that was necessary,

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01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 2: if that was something that had to be had they,

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01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 2: I mean the places where they had it. Clearly the

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01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 2: crowds took this well. I mean the Titans did it.

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01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 2: I mean they put up a photo of Charlie Kirk

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01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 2: on the board, right. Dolphins did it as well. So

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01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: one could argue there was a marketing component to this.

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01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 2: The Jets did it, and you say to me, Tony,

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01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 2: that's so craven. I'm taking a look at this objectively,

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01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: what it is these teams did, and then asking whether

1130
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 2: or not it was something that had to be done,

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01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 2: because we saw a lot of people take a look

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01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: at moments of silence and things for George Floyd and

1133
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: say what are you doing and how dare you now?

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 2: Before we get anywhere else. I am not comparing Charlie

1135
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 2: Kirk to George Floyd. Charlie Kirk was a better man

1136
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 2: than George Floyd every day of the week and twice

1137
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Even if I disagreed with Charlie Kirk ab

1138
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 2: out of civic policy or something else. Charlie Kirk did

1139
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,480
Speaker 2: not deserve what happened to him, and the people celebrating

1140
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 2: his death are despicable people, and I'm glad that they've

1141
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 2: out of themselves so I never have to pay them

1142
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 2: any mind, and certainly would not invite them into my home.

1143
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: So there are people who have had moment of silences

1144
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 2: where you agree and where you disagree, and I do

1145
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 2: not believe there has to be some code that says

1146
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 2: everybody has to do this, some unwritten rule that everybody

1147
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 2: has to do this, and not every NFL team, nor

1148
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,839
Speaker 2: did any NFL team have to engage a moment of silence.

1149
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 2: But as has been discussed, every one of the teams

1150
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 2: that I mentioned, the Detroit Lions, the Indianapolis Colts, the

1151
01:15:56,439 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, the Baltimore Ravens, the Minnesota Vikings, according to

1152
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: the reporting, I'd let anybody triple check they all honored

1153
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:07,759
Speaker 2: George Floyd back in twenty twenty.

1154
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,759
Speaker 3: And now, if.

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01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 2: That is indeed the case, I think you are more

1156
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 2: than welcome to look at these teams and ask them

1157
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: what the flying blank oh ten thousand percent if you

1158
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 2: were having moments of silence for George Floyd, was that

1159
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 2: league mandated? So George Floyd got the league mandate and

1160
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk didn't, or was the say team by team decision.

1161
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 2: But you did it because you knew that you would

1162
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 2: be vilified and very possibly your stadium and or team

1163
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 2: damaged if you didn't.

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01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 3: And what you just you didn't worry about what was

1165
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 3: going to happen to you on.

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01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: The other side over here, or and go with me

1167
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 2: on the philosophy. Is it that we have actually overcome

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 2: the idea of well I have to play along or

1169
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 2: go along in order to be liked. Otherwise that we destroyed.

1170
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 2: Have we done away with that? Have we created the

1171
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: level of the political posturing exhaustion? And people are like,

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01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 2: can we just play football? Because that's what we're here

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01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 2: to do. Play football. He wasn't a politician, he wasn't

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01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: in the military. Could we just play football? Could have

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01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 2: been in their argument. The argument's much harder to make

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01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 2: when you were doing it.

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Speaker 3: For George Floyd, it's a much harder argument to make.

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01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 3: And these are teams that are going to take some heat.

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01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 2: For doing it. I do not support the idea of

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01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: forced profession. Are you willing to say how much you

1181
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: loved fill in the blank? That's not That is not

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01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 2: what I want in the slightest I don't want any

1183
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: part of that.

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01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 3: I want to avoid.

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01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 2: That at all costs and let people do what they're

1186
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: going to do in terms of commentaries, and then let

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01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 2: people react and.

1188
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 3: Respond to it.

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01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 2: If the response to these teams is people don't buy

1190
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 2: their jerseys, or people don't do this, people don't do that,

1191
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: it don't show up to the game. Okay, if nothing happens,

1192
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: nothing happens, and the same is true the other way.

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01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: You take a look at all the companies that bent

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01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 2: the knee and did this for George Floyd, and that

1195
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 2: for George Floyd, and the other for George Floyd. George

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01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,560
Speaker 2: Floyd wasn't a good guy. Your choice of whether or

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01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 2: not you want to spend your money with them, or

1198
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:35,799
Speaker 2: whether you want to attend those events, etc. I happen

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01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 2: to like going to NBA games. The game in person

1200
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: is fantastic. I don't give good too holy you know

1201
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 2: once about Lebron James.

1202
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 3: I think he's a jerk.

1203
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 2: I think he's a self entitled pseudo intellectual while great

1204
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: court vision has no decency off the court.

1205
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Tony, he started a school.

1206
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: I know that he is so in the pocket of

1207
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 2: China that he writes op Edge talking about how great

1208
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 2: it is to work with the Chinese while they oppress people,

1209
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,759
Speaker 2: destroy Hong Kongers, and keep Weiger Muslims in prison camps.

1210
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 3: That's what I know.

1211
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 2: I know this guy went after Daryl Moray, who was

1212
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 2: clearly smarter than him, and said he needed to educate

1213
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: himself on China when it was Darryl Moray, the then

1214
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 2: general manager of the Houston Rockets, saying, I stand with

1215
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 2: Hong Kong because every rational person should have been standing

1216
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 2: with Hong Kong, but not Lebron James. He had to

1217
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 2: get paid. What what I mean, That's exactly what happened.

1218
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: I've got the data to back me up there. And

1219
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: it's up to you whether you are going to watch

1220
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: the NBA or not watch the NBA, watch the Emmys,

1221
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: or don't watch the Emmys. Because they got this this actress,

1222
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 2: Hannah Einbinder from the show Hacks, and she's gonna say

1223
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 2: f ice and free Palatine, which she did at her

1224
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 2: acceptance speech. She wins an Emmy. F ice and free Palestine. Sorry,

1225
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 2: I've watched a couple episodes of Showman. Why've watched the show?

1226
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 2: We're done now? You don't get my attention, you don't

1227
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: get my love?

1228
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 3: You are you?

1229
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 2: You lack to me the properness of decency. Supporting terrorists

1230
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 2: is nuts. Not approving of everything Israel does is fine.

1231
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 2: Free Palestine is a political statement. Saying that you want

1232
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: Israel destroyed. And then you say to me, Tony, you

1233
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 2: know the actress is Jewish, and I'm gonna say to you, Oh,

1234
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 2: I know.

1235
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 3: I know, but liberalism rocks the brain.

1236
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 2: And I've often discussed how the progressive has replaced their judaism.

1237
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 3: With their liberalism.

1238
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 2: We've seen this in many different ways across a whole

1239
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 2: bunch of religious spectrums. It's up to us to decide

1240
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: how our responses are going to go, and it may them.

1241
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 2: These teams may get a bad response in terms of

1242
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: boycott and things like that. I wouldn't participate in, and

1243
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 2: I and endorse, and I don't condone at all anything

1244
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: of a violent nature.

1245
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 3: That's nutty, that's nuts, But it is.

1246
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 2: Worthy of stating, if indeed we've got the data correct,

1247
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: that of a team was all about honoring George Floyd

1248
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: and isn't honoring Charlie Kirk.

1249
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 3: What changed? What changed?

1250
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a difference of five years. A lot

1251
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: has changed in five years. But what actually changed? What

1252
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 2: is different? What changed your mind? What changed your your

1253
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 2: thought process to doing these things? That's a worthwhile question.

1254
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: And I don't mind these teams being asked worthwhile questions.

1255
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:49,520
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today, it's talk of another government shutdown.

1256
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry. Did I do that wrong? All right,

1257
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do it wrong. Tony Katz,

1258
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 3: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. Usually when

1259
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 3: the when.

1260
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 2: The press talks about it and they talk about government shutdown,

1261
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, be careful, be on alert, we might

1262
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 2: be having another government shutdown.

1263
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 3: My god, Okay, it's happening. Everybody say, what's a procedure,

1264
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 3: what's going on? Holy crap, I am freaking out. That's

1265
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 3: what they're desperate for.

1266
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 2: They announced government shutdown, and everybody loses their freaking mind.

1267
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 3: But we've been through this.

1268
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 2: We've been through all of this, and when we hear

1269
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,600
Speaker 2: this these days and they tell us, oh my gosh,

1270
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: it might be a government shutdown, all we hear.

1271
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 3: Is this, we don't care shut it down. Oh I understand.

1272
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 2: The people aren't gonna get paid, and military isn't gonna

1273
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 2: get paid, and this is not gonna get paid, understand it.

1274
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 2: The point is this has been a threat going on

1275
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:11,440
Speaker 2: for years and we're just past it. It's not working anymore.

1276
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 2: We've read the fine print on this nonsense. Under section

1277
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 2: thirty seven B of the contract.

1278
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 7: It states quite clearly that all offers shall become.

1279
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 3: Null and void if and you can read it for

1280
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 3: yourself in this photostatic copy. I the undersigned shall forfeit

1281
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 3: all rights, privileges, and licenses, hearing and hearing contained, et cetera,

1282
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 3: et cetera.

1283
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 7: Facts mentis in sandium, gloriac complement, et cetera, et cetera.

1284
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 7: Memobis punitor della patam.

1285
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 8: It's all there, black and white.

1286
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 3: Clear as crystal. I mean, we've seen it. We get this.

1287
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 2: That's right at Willie Wonka reference. We get it. You

1288
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: might have a government shutdown, ooh, go ahead. We're gonna

1289
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: live our lives like normal. We're much more concerned that

1290
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 2: someone's gonna try and kill us because they don't like

1291
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: our political opinion than we are about your shutdown. And

1292
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,560
Speaker 2: we're not interested, Chuck Schumer in your nonsense fear tactics.

1293
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 3: This doesn't work. You're boring.

1294
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: Congressional Democrats say healthcare is the issue. They're saying that

1295
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 2: they will not support legislation to keep the government funded

1296
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 2: unless it includes certain healthcare provisions, saying, we have made

1297
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 2: clear that under no circumstances, when we support a partisan,

1298
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 2: republican spending bill that continues to rip away healthcare from

1299
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 2: the American people. Good gosh almighty, every single time it's

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Speaker 2: the same boring. Am I the only one who's just

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01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 2: had enough of this? Come up with a budget already,

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01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 2: be a bunch of grown ups. We don't think that

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01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: you're strong a Keem Jeffries. We think you're a pansy.

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01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: We think that Chuck Schumer is a doddering old fool.

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Speaker 2: Neither one of you is a wartime conciliary. You're getting

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01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 2: your butts kicked by Trump every which way but loose,

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna get wrecked in the midterms as things go.

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Speaker 3: Right now, But now you're back to healthcare. What do

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Speaker 3: they want?

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Speaker 2: They want an extension of the Affordable Care Act tax

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Speaker 2: credits set to the expire at the end of this year.

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Speaker 2: That could send premiums up by about seventy five percent.

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Speaker 2: So you want to take the failure of Obamacare and

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Speaker 2: still make it look like something valuable by keeping the

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Speaker 2: premiums artificially low. Now, I think it's interesting that Democrats

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Speaker 2: are in favor of a tax credit. If I'm the

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Speaker 2: Republican Party, I'm like, where else can we get a

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Speaker 2: tax credit? What else can we push Hey, why don't

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01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: we just add this as a tax cut? And why

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Speaker 2: don't we do this? And why don't we do that?

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Speaker 2: And let's see the Democrats now vote against that.

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Speaker 3: I am a.

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Speaker 2: Huge fan, a huge fan of that judo. Remember judo

1324
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 2: is about utilizing your opponent's weight against them. I love

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01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 2: that stuff, and I think we should do it. And

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Speaker 2: so to to Trump's point and his points of view,

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Speaker 2: it's not that I even agree with the policy, it's

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Speaker 2: that it'll be an argument of why in the world

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Speaker 2: will we be against tax cut? You know, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: cut this now, we're gonna cut that, and we're gonna

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Speaker 2: cut the other. No, we're gonna do this now, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna give you that. No, his idea is they're gonna say.

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Speaker 2: They're saying, we'll give you twenty dollars. Why don't we

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Speaker 2: say we'll give you. I'm here in twenty dollars, let's go.

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Speaker 2: That's always been his his kind of a mantra to

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Speaker 2: use their stuff against them. But he doesn't mind the giveaway. Remember,

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Speaker 2: not a conservative, so he doesn't mind more of these

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Speaker 2: kinds of things. But we're gonna talk about tax credits.

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01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 2: Let's get out some more tax credits. Ways for people

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Speaker 2: not to pay taxes is always something that I will

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Speaker 2: approve of, always. So the vast majority of Americans that

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Speaker 2: have the Affordable Care Act get the tax credit, So

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01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: if it goes, they're gonna spend a bunch more money

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Speaker 2: and they may not be able to afford the insurance.

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Speaker 2: So part of wanting this is to keep from the

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Speaker 2: recognition that this whole thing with the ACA, with Obamacare

1347
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 2: didn't work as advertised. You did lose your doctor, you

1348
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Speaker 2: did lose your plan. People lost a lot, and the

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Speaker 2: costs never went down.

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Speaker 3: The answer from the progressive is, see, because that's we

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Speaker 3: didn't We didn't go far enough.

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Speaker 2: We need universal health care. We need forced universal health care.

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01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 2: We need to have single payer and then the government

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Speaker 2: pays for everything, and then everything will be great. It

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Speaker 2: won't be great. There'll be a mess, and I certainly

1356
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 2: don't want that. The rich people will continue to have

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Speaker 2: concierge medicine. It's the poor people who will suffer with

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Speaker 2: long lines and dying.

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Speaker 3: Of things that they don't need.

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Speaker 2: To remember, everything the left does, if you take a

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Speaker 2: detailed look at it, abusing the poor and allowing the

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Speaker 2: rich to go about their lives. The left is in

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Speaker 2: favor of, well, we're gonna stop people from smoking, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna raise the cigarette tax by I don't know

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Speaker 2: whatever dollars it is per packet. Make it impossible for

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Speaker 2: people to afford cigarettes. No, you make it impossible for

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Speaker 2: poor people to afford cigarettes. Rich people still buy cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna red meat is bad for you. It's not,

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Speaker 2: by the way, it's not at all. But you can't

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Speaker 2: convince a vegan of anything like, for example, what food is.

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Speaker 2: And so we're gonna we're gonna raise the taxes on this,

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Speaker 2: and so we're gonna keep people from eating red meat

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Speaker 2: the sick, twisted, twisted people. But the rich people still

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Speaker 2: afford steak. It is poor people who can no longer

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Speaker 2: afford a steak, that's the story. And who doesn't love

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Speaker 2: a good steak?

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Speaker 3: Cooking steak? Would in it be great? You could be

1378
01:28:56,120 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 3: my mate cooking steak. Ficko the stake? Will you please?

1379
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 3: Bema may and come and steak steak every day?

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Speaker 2: For about six years, I did a segment on my

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Speaker 2: morning show about meatless Monday, about how the city of

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis supported the concept of a meatless.

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Speaker 3: Monday don't eat meat mount on Monday.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, we have a lot of great steakhouses, and

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Speaker 2: I would advertise for free a different steakhouse or a different.

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Speaker 3: Restaurant every week. I did this for six years straight.

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Speaker 3: Eventually I ran out of places and that was my

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01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 3: that was my theme song. Rich people still get the steak,

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Speaker 3: poor people suffer.

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Speaker 2: You want a tax on soda, rich people who drink soda.

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Speaker 3: And poor people won't.

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Speaker 2: And that's what's gonna happen every time these do gooders

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Speaker 2: get near any of this stuff. The rich people are

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01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 2: always better off, and same thing will be true with medicine.

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Speaker 2: Do I care if the tax credits day. I'm not

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure how it plays on the other side,

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01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 2: but if i'm Republicans go the Judo move and get more,

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01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: more tax credits, more ways for the people to save.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if the Democrats really care about people or

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Speaker 2: they just care about politics. I'm willing to put my

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Speaker 2: wager down.

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Speaker 3: I know which one.

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Speaker 10: I know.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz Today find everything at tonycats dot com.

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Speaker 3: So Marco Rubio met with Benjamin Netanyaho. Marco Rubio, the

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01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 3: Secretary of State.

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Speaker 2: Benjaminin Yah, who the Prime Minister of Israel, stating.

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Speaker 3: That Hamas must be eliminated and all.

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Speaker 2: Hostages released for there to be peace in Gaza. If

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Speaker 2: you haven't heard me already talk about Hannah Einbinder, the

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01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 2: actress from the show Hacks, I'll get to it.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you all.

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Speaker 2: Explain to you how it all connects. Rubio was curious

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01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 2: as the reporting from the Washington Times discusses came to Israel.

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Speaker 3: Wanted to hear from Net Yahoo, well, what was your

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01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:00,719
Speaker 3: plan in Gaza?

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01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: You've got these bombing raids in Qatar, you took out

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01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 2: Hamas leadership.

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01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 3: What's going on? What is your plan?

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01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 2: And the headline was kind of fascinating, little daylight between

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01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 2: US and Israel evident as Rubio and Net and Yahoo meet.

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01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 3: But it was Donald Trump who said.

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Speaker 2: That he was opposed to what it is that Israel

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Speaker 2: did in Qatar against the Hamas leadership. I think the

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01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 2: same thing was said at the United Nations. So I

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Speaker 2: don't know what to make of this headline. I don't

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01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 2: know what any of us are supposed to make from

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01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 2: this headline. I think it's interesting, and I also think

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01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 2: that it's interesting that Rubio is engaged like this while

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01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 2: the US is over here saying the other. And this

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01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 2: is where the politics gets deep in detailed. What happens

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01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 2: when you're trying to cover all of your basis. It's

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01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 2: under do it by some, or believed by some that

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01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 2: the hit on Qatar, where Hamas' leadership is allowed to

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01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 2: hold up and spend their billions, is seen as an

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01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 2: attack on sovereign soil. One could easily see it as

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01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 2: here's Qatar harboring terrorists who were to attack the nation

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01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 2: of Israel, and Israel's responding to where the terrorist is.

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01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 3: You could see it. However, you like how the United

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01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 3: States is playing it is.

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01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm not, I would say perfectly to my liking, but

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01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 2: I at least see what it is that they're doing.

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01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 2: We don't appreciate the idea of an attack on foreign

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01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 2: soil or the nation that did nothing to you.

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01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 3: And then saying Hamas must be destroyed.

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01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 2: Now I don't actually agree that Qatar did nothing. I

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01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 2: think Qatar has been buying influence in the United States

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01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 2: for decades, really really getting aggressive on doing so.

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01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 3: The idea that this is a nation that.

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01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 2: Was once reviled or thought of as an afterthought within

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01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 2: whether it be Arab nations or Muslim nations or really

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01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 2: in the Middle East, and how it has built itself

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01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 2: out into this financial powerhouse, giving money to lobbyists and

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01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 2: to universities and learning institutions, and really trying to force

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01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 2: our hand in what it is we talk and don't

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01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: talk about. And then there's the conversation of whether or

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Speaker 2: not there are influencers that are funded by Qatar to

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01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 2: that end, because I get accused of this all the time.

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Speaker 3: Look who you're funded by.

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01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 2: I am not funded by any foreign nation at all.

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01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 2: I have never ever received a check from a foreign nation.

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01:33:55,960 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 2: Have I done work with groups before Absolutely beat quite

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01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 2: a number of years since I've done anything with Americans

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01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:06,719
Speaker 2: for prosperity, but I have. If you want to argue

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01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 2: that the.

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01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 3: Koch brothers are evil, well let those people.

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01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 2: They build out hospitals, they provide for the arts, and

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01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 2: the people angry with them are just bitter, angry shrews.

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Speaker 2: And I don't actually give a damn whether they like

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Speaker 2: it or not. The very shirt I'm wearing might have

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Speaker 2: been paid for by evil Coke dollars.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I didn't like when they were supporting Nikki Haley for president.

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01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 2: I thought that was a nutty said so, but I

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01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 2: agree on a good tax policy that lowers taxes, and

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01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 2: I agree on the very concepts of prosperity. So you know,

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01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 2: solid we agree, we disagree. It's all right. Never a

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01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 2: foreign nation, never ever, never, ever, ever, ever has that

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01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 2: happened in my life. But you'll get people who say, oh,

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01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: the Kataris are supporting this.

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Speaker 3: One, that one and the other one. And it comes

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01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 3: up a lot with Tucker Carlson. I have no idea.

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01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea, And since I would have

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01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:14,680
Speaker 2: no way to prove such a thing, I have to

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01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 2: say I don't believe it to be true. You'd have

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01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 2: to show me that it is true. As for the

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01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 2: political turn, Tucker Carlson has a taken in his vitriol

1489
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 2: and his hatred, I don't have an answer for that.

1490
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if that is financing or something else.

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01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 2: That would all be speculation on my part. I know

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01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 2: that making the claim that Russia is better than the

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01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 2: United States because look at their supermarkets is one of

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Speaker 2: the most ignorant and daft things I've heard in a

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Speaker 2: long time, and Tucker could laugh it off all he wants.

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01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 3: I'm right, he's wrong.

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01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 2: That's that he sounds silly when he says that, Oh,

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01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 2: look at these Russian supermarkets. I wish American supermarkets look

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01:35:53,600 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: like that. That's that's embarrassing, is what we're talking about

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01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 2: right there. But I have no idea if the guy

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01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 2: takes foreign dollars. I do know that Qatar works to

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01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 2: engage influence, and that has to be discussed. And if

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01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 2: Qatar is harboring Hamas terrorists, that's a problem. And I

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01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 2: have no problem with taking out the terrorists who are

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01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 2: harbored in Qatar, none whatsoever. Now Rubio's statement is about Hamas.

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01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 2: As long as they're around, there will be no peace

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01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 2: in this region because they're not agents a piece, they're

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01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 2: agents of barbarism. Absolutely positively correct. This comes as there

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01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 2: was an air strike that took out I think twelve,

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01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 2: including children. How does one process such a thing?

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Speaker 3: Allow me?

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01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 2: There is zero question in my mind that there are

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Speaker 2: absolutely innocent people, including children, who have been killed in

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Speaker 2: this war. There is no question about this. Every ounce

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Speaker 2: of blood is the fault of Hamas, who started the war.

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01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:16,799
Speaker 2: They're the one I'm not even saying about it, taking

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Speaker 2: sides here, although you absolutely know where I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm a Zionist.

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01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 2: I apologize for nothing for nothing. But is there really

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01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 2: any question whether or not Hamastar or the war? No,

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01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 2: the argument is yeah, but there's no. Yeah. But that's

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01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 2: like saying of Charlie Kirk, we shouldn't take out our

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01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,679
Speaker 2: differences in such a violent way.

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01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 3: But his skirt was too short and he deserved it.

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Speaker 2: That's what the left is saying in a lot of places,

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01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 2: a lot of social media places, a lot of politicos.

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Speaker 3: It's ugly.

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01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 2: Certainly not everyone, but it is ugly, and you have

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01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 2: been witnessing it and watching it and you are disgusted

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01:37:54,080 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 2: by it. He deserved it. It's obscene. Israel got attacked, sure,

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01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 2: but there's no but it's a war that Hamas started.

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01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 2: Hamas is gonna pay the price. Where's the screaming to

1533
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 2: just return the hostages and make this all go away?

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01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 2: Why aren't they screaming for that? It is crazed they

1535
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 2: still don't. I am thrilled to see the statement from Rubio,

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01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 2: not because of Israel, but.

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01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,679
Speaker 3: Because it sets a standard.

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01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 2: You want to be upset because there was a hit

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01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 2: on another country. You've got foreign policy you have to

1540
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 2: deal with, you have trade deals you're trying to get down.

1541
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 2: I can understand such levels of political posturing and maneuvering

1542
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 2: in order to ensure that other deals can take place.

1543
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,719
Speaker 2: We do live in the real world. But any statement

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01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 2: that reminds us of who the terrorists are, what it

1545
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 2: is they've done, what it is they would still do

1546
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 2: if they had the chance, and what they will do

1547
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 2: to you tomorrow, to you, to your kids, to your city,

1548
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:15,639
Speaker 2: to your town, to your neighborhood. They've already said they would,

1549
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 2: they already said they want to, They already said they're

1550
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 2: not going to stop. They already said they're not going

1551
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:23,600
Speaker 2: to give back the hostages. They have no interest in

1552
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 2: making the lives of the people of Gaza better.

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01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 3: They never did.

1554
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 2: And not everybody in Gaza is innocent, as a lot

1555
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 2: of them support Hamas, have voted for Hamasa, would do

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01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 2: so again. Children being killed, yeah, you could argue for

1557
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 2: the most part that they're innocent. I mean, it would

1558
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:45,679
Speaker 2: have to be an age of a child and something

1559
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 2: specific that you knew. But let's be rational people, Let's

1560
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 2: be humans innocent.

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Speaker 3: It's awful.

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01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 2: It's absolutely awful, and every part of it is the

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01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 2: fault of Hamas. If they would just surrender, they would

1564
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 2: just give back hostages, all this would end. But I

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01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 2: think this is a very good sign. I like what

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01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 2: I'm seeing here with this trip and with these statements. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Tucker won't, Candice won't, All those people won't.

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01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 3: Well, they don't have to. They don't have to.

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01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 2: And I'm not even saying that you agree with every

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01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 2: way that Israel has handled this war, because allow me

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01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:31,879
Speaker 2: to go first. I don't either, But I certainly support

1572
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 2: Israel over Hamas. I certainly support democracies over terrorism, and

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01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 2: I absolutely support the rational people of the free world

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Speaker 2: against the Islamists, because if the Islamist exists, all the

1575
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 2: rational people in the free world they all die. Rationality

1576
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:54,759
Speaker 2: goes out the window, replaced by Sharia, which is sure

1577
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 2: as bloody heck not rational. The public recognition that Hamas

1578
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 2: is a terror organization that needs to be destroyed, bra

1579
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 2: vi simo. Because Hamas is a terrorist organization that must

1580
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 2: be destroyed, it's good to see leadership saying so. I'm

1581
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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, this is Tony Katz today.

1582
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Speaker 11: Right now, we live in America of cancel culture, and

1583
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 11: it is the cancel culture on the right now that

1584
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 11: is leading the charge and the apocrisy. I've been writing

1585
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 11: something about this. The apocrisy on the right about free

1586
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 11: speech is I mean, it's just it's off the charge

1587
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 11: because think about it. If you actually believed in what

1588
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 11: Charlie Kirk said he believed in didn't quite practice all

1589
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 11: the time, is free speech, then why are you out

1590
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 11: to cancel people who are using their First Amendment right

1591
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 11: of free speech to tell you how they feel about

1592
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 11: Charlie Kirk by u using his own words.

1593
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 2: But that's not what happened, Don Lemon. They didn't use

1594
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's own words. They manipulated his own words. They

1595
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:14,480
Speaker 2: weren't honest about it. His conversation about the Second Amendments

1596
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 2: and the importance of it and the horrible things that

1597
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 2: can happen. But he doesn't take from your rights. You

1598
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 2: don't take away people's rights because bad things happen. That's

1599
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 2: just not the way it works. I've made the same argument.

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Speaker 2: I never advocated for murdering somebody while they were speaking

1601
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 2: to a crowd of thousands.

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01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 3: Tony Katz Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

1603
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:39,560
Speaker 2: But this is part of the conversation of the madness

1604
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 2: of the response to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, that

1605
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 2: now the Don Lemon's of the world, still thinking that

1606
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 2: they are worthy of an audience, want to now go

1607
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 2: out there and proclaim that they want to protect us

1608
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 2: all from cancel culture.

1609
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 11: It doesn't make sense because Charlie Kirk didn't make sense,

1610
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 11: and so the response is irrational. So they're trying to

1611
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 11: all these people are Nancy Mace and Megan Kelly and

1612
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 11: all these people.

1613
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 3: They can't figure out how they want a response response.

1614
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 3: Is he a crazy looney left liberal? Is he in

1615
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 3: some sort of in cel? Is he a furry? Is

1616
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 3: he whatever?

1617
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 11: Like they're spinning trying to oh, how do we make

1618
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 11: this make sense?

1619
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 3: No, they're not not at all.

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01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 2: The guy who killed assassinated Charlie Kirk came from what

1621
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 2: would be considered a quote unquote normal household, a conservative household,

1622
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 2: got radicalized, whether it was college or certainly in his

1623
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 2: later life, was dating a man who was transitioning quote

1624
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 2: unquote to become a woman. They were into the concept

1625
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 2: of furries, pretending that you're some kind of animal. Was

1626
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 2: all about the anti fascist movement, which is actually the

1627
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 2: most fascistic of movements.

1628
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 3: It's all lie, it's all a fraud.

1629
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 2: I mean, we can go back to quotes from Hearing

1630
01:43:57,080 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 2: Long just to how easy it is to maneuver these things.

1631
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 2: David Mammott writes about this in one of his latest books,

1632
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 2: There's no confusion about how you want to do this.

1633
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 2: That's a leftist talking point to make one believe, Oh

1634
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 2: my gosh, the political rights upset that it wasn't a

1635
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:18,799
Speaker 2: trans person or a black person. We're disgusted and upset

1636
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 2: that Charlie Kirk was assassinated and the rest of us

1637
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 2: who are in this world now I have to question

1638
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 2: how we go out into the public, which is of

1639
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 2: course what the left wants. You should be afraid to

1640
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 2: leave your house. I went out and did events on Friday.

1641
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 2: I went out and did events on Saturday. I keep

1642
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 2: as much security around as possible, and I'm gonna keep going.

1643
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 2: There is no stopping guys, And you know that that's

1644
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 2: the way it has to be for you as well.

1645
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 2: And you and I are in the same boat. Someone's

1646
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 2: not gonna like your Facebook post and they're gonna decide

1647
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 2: to do something. So Don Lemon is making it up here,

1648
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 2: and then he puts the final touch on the nonsense.

1649
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 11: You can't because it doesn't make sense because this is

1650
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 11: a myth. You're trying to build a myth on a myth.

1651
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 11: The things that came out of Charlie Kirk's mouth were

1652
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 11: much of it was hurtful, discriminatory, ignorant.

1653
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 2: And I'll stop there good because you've been wrong three

1654
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 2: times that you disagreed with it didn't make it any

1655
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 2: of those things, Don Lemon, And that you approach your

1656
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:37,640
Speaker 2: video series or anything else you do like you're an intellectual,

1657
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 2: why not honestly address what he discussed.

1658
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 3: I am not a.

1659
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 2: Guy for prostlytizing. It's never where I'm at. It's not

1660
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 2: the thing that rings in my ears. Oh okay to

1661
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 2: me is okay. I know that's not for me, But

1662
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,799
Speaker 2: I wasn't the intended audience in a great number of ways.

1663
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it's be shot and killed. And if

1664
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 2: you want to talk about cancel culture, you have people

1665
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:08,799
Speaker 2: cheering him being murdered. Don't be surprised when a company

1666
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 2: says we don't want you around anymore. People could say

1667
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,559
Speaker 2: what they want, but there might be consequences. That's what

1668
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 2: we were told when you were getting conservatives, people on

1669
01:46:17,400 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 2: the political right of people.

1670
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:20,520
Speaker 3: Disa agreed with you fired everywhere.

1671
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 2: You have people all over the political left cheering murder.

1672
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:29,879
Speaker 2: Would you want those people representing your company, your business,

1673
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 2: your future, not me? Find everything at Tonycotts dot com tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Everyone, take care,