1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Lie from val Hartland and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: When I say to you that the left wants the violence, 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying that there is nothing that shows me that 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: they are doing anything to try and tone down the rhetoric. Now, 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: I will tell you I have said on this show 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: before that I do not believe that when the writer 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: is told you have to tone down the rhetoric, that 9 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: they have to go oh yeah, absolutely right away. 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: Even though jd. 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: Vance did say in the press are yesterday that they 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: want to tone down the rhetoric. What I said to 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: the political left is you first set it right here 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: on the show. And the reason I said it that 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: way is because none of us are rules. 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: We know how this game is played. 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: You conservative, you, Republican, you independent, you, moderate, you. 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: You you you you. You have to do this, you 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: have to do that, and then everything will be better. 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: You see, everything will just calm down if ICE would 21 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: just stop doing its job, Everything would just calm down, 22 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: if Republicans will just do everything we tell them to do. 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: And so you get to a place, you get to 24 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: a realization that they don't view anybody who disagrees with 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: them as somebody with a political disagreement worthy of discussion, 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: they look at that person as the enemy, which is 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: going to bring us to the conversation from Melanie. 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: Phillips that I forgot. 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: To get to yesterday, and I feel really bad about 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, good to be with you, 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Good to be here. Find everything I do at Tony 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: kats dot com. The situation of toning down the rhetoric 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: doesn't come from the left. They don't tone down rhetoric. 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: They amp it up. And in the days since what 35 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: took place in Minneapolis and you have this woman, Renee 36 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: Good who was shot by Ice, the left has not 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: told the story of what has happened. 38 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, far from it all. 39 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Hell No, as Holly Bacon would say, what they have 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: done is said, look at how Ice murders people. These 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: are authoritarians, These are are violent people. They're fascists. Let's 42 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: go get them and Ice. You have crimes against Ice 43 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: up eighteen hundred percent, attacks on ICE and specifically the 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: car rammings up thirty. 45 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: Three hundred percent. That was the data that I saw. 46 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: You have non stop attacks on these people. They're being 47 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: shot at in Dallas. You are seeing in New York 48 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: where they have these rallies, and what are these rallies 49 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: about about wanting to see Christine Nome hung? And you 50 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: say to me, oh, Tony, that's not happening, like I 51 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: would come without receipts. Boo boo, Christy Nome will hang. 52 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: That is the Secretary of Homeland Security. That's what's happening. 53 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: That is the violence. And there is no one on 54 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: the left, by the way, while they hold signs, if 55 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: you could see, if you're watching the live stream, while 56 00:03:54,640 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: they hold signs that read ice kills. There is not 57 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: a desire on the political left to tone down the rhetoric. 58 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: There is only the desire to amp it up. I've 59 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: got Congressman Eric Swalwell now saying, hey, Ice, get the 60 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: blank out of California. 61 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: Such a tough guy as Eric Swalwell. 62 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: The mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Pray, get the blank out 63 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: of Minneapolis, that beta Mail. 64 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: Playing the tough guy. 65 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: Larry Krasner, the DEA in Philadelphia. None of them with 66 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: even a willingness to admit what happened that led to 67 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: the shooting. Only the want and the desire to raise 68 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: the temperature and bring about the violence. Now you say 69 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: to me, Tony, they don't want violence, and I will 70 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: say to you, prove it, kitten, because I'm watching what 71 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: it is they're doing, and the only thing that they're 72 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: is leading to the violence. Go ahead, give me something else. Well, 73 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 1: they're just fighting the authoritarianism. They want to hang Christy Nome. 74 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: They are attacking ICE agents. And by the way, these 75 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: attacks were going on long before this woman, Renee Good, 76 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: who was known as an ICE agitator. 77 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: By the way, she. 78 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: Was known as an agitator, she was understood in that area. 79 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: The articles at the New York Post. She was there 80 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: with her spoused, her wife. I guess they're saying, and 81 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: it was that woman who got out of the car, 82 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: not in the car with her, and was encouraging her 83 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: to do this. The two of them won a team, 84 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: and it was Renee Good who blocked traffic and Renee 85 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: Good who did not listen to the officer when she 86 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: told to get out of the car. Multiple opportunities to 87 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: save her own life, she didn't take it. The left 88 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: wanted this. I know that's an ugly thing to say. 89 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: It's so awful and so horrific. Look at how they're 90 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: acting look at how they go about engaging. 91 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: They wanted it. 92 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: This is exciting to them, This is good. This just 93 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: proves our point. This is fantastic, This is terrific. Oh 94 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: holy hell, this is ugly and it's not going to stop. Guys, 95 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: This doesn't stop the push for the violence. 96 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: This is the mayor of Minneapolis. 97 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Now, Producer Landon, you gotta be finger on the dumb button, 98 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: because I haven't caught all of this yet. 99 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: Check them out. 100 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: You tell me question being asked both the commentary here the. 101 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: Audio for WCCO in Minneapolis. 102 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: Well, I think what this does ultimately is expose the truth. 103 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: What did they say when they came in here. What 104 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: has this administration stated as their reason for coming into 105 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: cities around the country. The reason that they've stated safety, 106 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: driving down crime. We'll let our statistics speak for the trajectory. 107 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: They are clearly driving crime. Up Up until last night, 108 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: we hadn't had any shootings in this city other than ice. 109 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: Our city is safe, Our city is welcoming. They are 110 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: making it less so, and so it is a massive 111 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: issue that they continue to exert their presence in Minneapolis 112 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: and beyond. By the way, it's not just our city 113 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 3: that is still on the impact. I know that there 114 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: are a number of legislators behind me that can speak 115 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: to that. This administration has also said that they're very 116 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: pro business. That's also garbage. I don't have a specific 117 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: statistic other than anecdotal evidence to point to, but they 118 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: have had a massive and detrimental impact on a number 119 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 3: of corridors throughout our city, including like eighty percent reductions 120 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: in customer base along East Lake Street and many other 121 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: corridors throughout is. 122 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: That where a lot of people who are legal hanging out. 123 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: How dare you? How dare anyone go out there. 124 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: And say we should do something about illegal immigration, we 125 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: should do something about crime all across the country. It's 126 00:08:51,920 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: all just made up. This is an exacerbation. This is 127 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: wanting and fomenting the violence. That's what we're witnessing. That 128 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: is what we're looking at. And the Left has absolutely 129 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: no plans at all of stopping the Attorney General of Minnesota, 130 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: the radical by the name of Keith Ellison. Again, producer 131 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: Landon on that dumb button just in case, as he's 132 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: on the Dino Badala show there from Sirius XM. 133 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: This is an aspiring fascist dictator, tyrant trying to impose 134 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 4: by force, will and dominance on the population. 135 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 2: That's what's happening. 136 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 4: And as soon as we all wake up to it, 137 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 4: the sooner we'll be able to be free of it. 138 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: What he's saying is the sooner you do something about it. 139 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: Winky winky. That's exactly what they did regarding President Trump. 140 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: Trump's a fascists, Trump's a dictator. Somebody has to do something. 141 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: We can't have this Trump this Trump that those were 142 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: all calls for a lone wolf. That's how you got 143 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: the assassination attempt. It is imperative that we understand that 144 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: the desire here is the violence. 145 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: That's all there is, and the violence is a. 146 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: Tactic utilized to try and get other people to stop 147 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: doing basic things like, you know, actually prosecute those who 148 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: are in the country illegally. They they will stop if 149 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: you simply stop existing, because the ultimate reality is they 150 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: have no interest and stopping. This is who they are, 151 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: This is their belief system, this is how their mechanism works. 152 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 1: Somebody has to be oppressing someone somewhere, someone has to 153 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: be a fascist somewhere in order for them to exist, 154 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: because if those things aren't there, Let's say they'd actually 155 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: have to look at their own ideas and ideology and 156 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: say does this work? 157 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: And when it doesn't work, they never question themselves. 158 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: They'll say someone is out there not doing the right thing, 159 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: and that's what's causing all the heartache. 160 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: As I'll get into my conversation. 161 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: With Ed Morrissey, the answer for all central planners when 162 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: a central plan planning doesn't work is more central planning, 163 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: never admitting that central planning doesn't get you anywhere. Rather, 164 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: we need more government. So when you see the violence, 165 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: they'll never say, okay, we need to tone it down now. 166 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: The answer is we need more violence to make them stop. 167 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: We have to thwart these people. These people are destructive, 168 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: These people are fascists, These people are authoritarians. 169 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: These people are what was it dictators? 170 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: Can't put the toothpaste back in the tube or wherever 171 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: it is. The toothpaste would then go, this is what 172 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: they want. 173 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: This is how violent they are. They will look at. 174 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: The attacks on ice and say more faster, and the 175 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: leadership will say nothing. 176 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: They're fine with it. They're good with it. 177 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: But let's make sure we understand what it is that 178 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: that leadership is good with. This is a woman by 179 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: the name of Britt Hughes. I do not know Britt Hughes, 180 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: but Britt Hughes made a heck of points on social media, 181 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: So I. 182 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 5: Just want to get this straight here. Lake and Riley 183 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 5: was attacked and assaulted and beaten to death so badly 184 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 5: that her skull was caved in and she wasn't even recognizable. 185 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 5: Joscelyn Nungerray was twelve years old when she was raped 186 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: and strangled to death under a bridge. Rachel Morin was 187 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 5: also a thirty seven year old mom when she was 188 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 5: attacked and raped and beaten to death and left beside 189 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 5: a jogging trail, all by illegal aliens who shouldn't have 190 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 5: even been in this country in the first place, and 191 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 5: there were no protests for them. The left didn't care, 192 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 5: the media didn't care. Democrats wouldn't even stand up in 193 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 5: Congress for their names. 194 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: That's outrageously factual. When these things happen, they're not outraged, 195 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: they're not upset, they're not angered, they have nothing, and 196 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: they say, let's not solve the problem. They say, how 197 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: dare you solve the problem? That the that the idea 198 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: of admitting there's a problem is the most evil thing. 199 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: You can't even admit that, because that's to be bigoted. 200 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: We can't have that. No, No, the problem is problem 201 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: is you Republicans. So legal immigrants should remain on the streets, 202 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: the fraud should continue, whether it be from sam Ali 203 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: Nationals or Americans or anybody else. Ice should not exist, 204 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: law enforcement should not exist, and everything somehow will magically 205 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: be fine. Oh but you Republicans, your conservatives, re education 206 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: camps for the lot of you. And please, it's not 207 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: me saying it, that is out there from esteemed voices 208 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: on the left. 209 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: You think the violence is temporary. 210 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: I think the violence is the byproduct of years of 211 00:14:54,440 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: Marxism that went unchecked, and here we are. The class 212 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: struggle is about the oppressed and the oppressor. Well, the 213 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: authoritarian must be the oppressor, and the oppressed is therefore justified. 214 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: In any violent act they take. 215 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: And since they view everything through that lens, someone somewhere 216 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: must always be what the oppressor, and so the violence continues. 217 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: When I tell you that the left wants this, this 218 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: is not hyperbole. This is deducing what it is that 219 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: they have been engaged in. What if they have been 220 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: indoctrinated in what they have been learning and what they 221 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: have taught, and. 222 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: This is the result. 223 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: And we're in it and the only way out is 224 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,239 Speaker 1: through and making sure these people don't win elections, starting 225 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: with the midterms. 226 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz. Today the jobs 227 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: report comes out. 228 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: And I discussed it in depth with doctor Matt Will, 229 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: economist at the University of Indianapolis. Me I'm Tony Katz. 230 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: The show is Tony Katz today. You're looking quite hot 231 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: today and I want you to know it. I wasn't 232 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: talking to you producer Landon. The Dow is nearly up 233 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: three hundred at least at this moment, and nasdack up 234 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: one ninety, so it's a question of where it ends up. 235 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: But it's been kind of up and down because the 236 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: jobs report came out and the jobs report stated that 237 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: we put on fifty thousand jobs in December. Well the 238 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: estimate was seventy three thousand, and you could argue that 239 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: that's a that's a miss. But not everybody is fearful. 240 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: They look at this and say, well, well, maybe there's 241 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity here. 242 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: And maybe the opportunity. 243 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Is is that we could say things are weakening, So 244 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: what we need to do to make things better is 245 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: do what lower interest rates? And that makes the people 246 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: there on the wall street super happy, and they go, whooo. 247 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: I'm assuming that's that's that's what they do. 248 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: And then they and then they're like, let's let the 249 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: market go up, so that could be it. And then 250 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: there's Trump on the two hundred million dollars worth a 251 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: bond buying. 252 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, as doctor Will explains, when you. 253 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: Take a first look at this, this looks like quantitative 254 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: easing all over again. 255 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: This looks like the stuff we did during the bailouts. 256 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: This looks like the stuff that was absolutely part of 257 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: wrecking the economy. Trump is arguing. And mortgage rates are down, 258 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: by the way, thirty year fixed drop quick two basis 259 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: points zero point two two percent to five point nine 260 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: to nine. Funny how it got to that psychological under six. 261 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? Isn't that just absolutely amazing that it 262 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: did that? 263 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: Because they love this this idea. 264 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 1: They're gonna buy the mortgages and bring down the and 265 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: bring down the rates. Oh, that's that's it. That's a dream. 266 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, No, it's not. It doesn't sound like 267 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: a dream. It sounds like everything that puts us in 268 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: the places that we used to be and that were 269 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: somehow going through these old machinations and saying, well, this 270 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: time it'll work. 271 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: You know it won't. You want things down? 272 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: I get it, mister President. It takes some time. You know, 273 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: it's keeping prices up a little bit, tariffs. I mean, 274 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: it's true. We all know it's true. We don't have 275 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: to pretend. And yet there are places in the economy 276 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: that are doing just fantastic. 277 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: Things are bett. I think things are in the head 278 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: better for. 279 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: People than they were two months ago, which is a 280 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: really weird thing to say. And I think people want 281 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: to see the good. They see that there's an opportunity here, 282 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: and it won't take much over the next six months 283 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: to show some just a couple of things to turn 284 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: and then Trump could say, see and that's going to 285 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: help make the midterms happy. 286 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: Keep it here. It's Tony Kats today. 287 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: What does it mean when jd Vance says take Trump 288 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: seriously on Greenland? 289 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what I'm. 290 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: Supposed to do with that information. Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, 291 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: Good to be here, Good to be with you. Jd 292 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: Vance was excellent yesterday. Jadie Vance was terrific yesterday in 293 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: the White House briefing. 294 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 2: The only time I think stumbled. 295 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: Is when he said of the ice agent in this 296 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: shooting that took place in Minneapolis, that he had been 297 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: previously rammed with a car, got thirty three stitches, thirty 298 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: eight stitches. 299 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 6: And. 300 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: You know, so maybe when a car is coming at him, 301 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: he's a little bit sensitive to it. You can't say 302 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 1: that about ice agents. They can't be sensitive to anything. 303 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: They have to be professionals on the job. And you 304 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: can't use that as an excuse. I would say that 305 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: to the Vice President directly to him, I'm I'm right, 306 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: And that was just a not that was not proper, 307 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: not only bad word choice, it's not right. But how 308 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: media is trying to spin all this is something that 309 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: he countered rageously effectively. And there are moments where Jda 310 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: Vans is outrageously good, and I think there are moments 311 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: where Jade Vance misses and I think that him and 312 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: in many of his foreign policy conversations, it's not that 313 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: he isn't you know, it's not that he is upologetically 314 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: America first. Being unapologetically America first is actually quite all right, 315 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: being foolhardy is not, which brings us to the conversation 316 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: about Greenland. No one should be engaged in the idea 317 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: that we will take Greenland by force. 318 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: No one. 319 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: It's a terrible idea and it's not going to happen. 320 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna take Greenland by force. But we have not 321 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: in Venezuela actually made things better for the Venezuelan people 322 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: by getting rid of the Modera regime. Pretty interesting. We 323 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: haven't gotten rid of the Maduro regime. Rather, we did 324 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: what ensure that we have more access to. 325 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 2: Oil, which I'm fine with. 326 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Keeping it out of the hands of the Chinese and 327 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: the Russians is of course the thing. But we're going 328 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: to take out Maduro but keep the Maduro regime in place. 329 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 2: The people of Venezuela, we're looking forward to it better tomorrow. 330 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: And now they're like, oh, that's. 331 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: Not that's going to foment some anti American sentiment there. 332 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: So there's a real move that has to be made here, 333 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: and that if you want to engage the Monroe doctrine 334 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: to the idea of protection of the Western Hemisphere from 335 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: Russian and Chinese influence. 336 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 2: Allah James Monroe, President James Monroe wanted to. 337 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: Keep European influence out of the Western hemisphere. Well, that 338 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: also has to be done by ensuring that those in 339 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: the Western hemisphere get to live their best life, and 340 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen and under a communist regime. And if 341 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: the plan is well, you know what, we could work 342 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: with them. It's as is, so it's good enough for us. 343 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: That's not a I don't know if that's a great 344 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: wait hold on, I know that's not a great foreign policy. 345 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if others are going to see that 346 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: as a valuable foreign policy. And I don't see how 347 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: jd vance promoting anything that is half measure as value. 348 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: And I don't see promoting the idea of we're taking 349 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: Greenland by force as value. I think promoting the idea 350 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: that Greenland has absolutely incredible assets is important to us, 351 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: and there. 352 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: Is protection to be discussed, and we. 353 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: Need the Danes to recognize that we're the ones who 354 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: can protect Greenland and protect them from the Russian and 355 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: the Chinese threat. That's not only regarding Greenland itself, but 356 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: all of those waterways around it. Do you really want 357 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: them to be able to get that close all the time? 358 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: Let's make a deal, which is what I always took 359 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: as the conversation about any military action, as I discussed 360 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: it on the show, that it's just a way of 361 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: Trump getting the debate going, the negotiation going. 362 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: And I know it freaks other people out, but it 363 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: just doesn't. It just doesn't. 364 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't move me, Like I don't get 365 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: freaked out by it freaks other people out. 366 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: But when I see JD. 367 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: Vans engage in these kinds of things, Take Trump seriously 368 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: on Greenland. 369 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 370 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: Take them seriously on the idea of of a military 371 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: kind of move, because no, it's. 372 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: A terrible idea. Let's not do that. For what advance 373 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: is there in front of the press saying you're lying, 374 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: you're lying, you're lying, that didn't happen. 375 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: You're trying to manipulate, you're trying to create anger, you're 376 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: trying to foam an anger. We're gonna protect ice, We're 377 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: not gonna be a afraid of it. We're not going 378 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: to allow you to manipulate. We're going to push back 379 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: on every narrative you puts you out there. We're not 380 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: going to stop. And also your mother like that's that's worthwhile. 381 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: So I do find myself in a bit of frustration. 382 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: With with JD. 383 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 4: Vans. 384 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: But in moving on from him into other members of 385 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: the cabinet, someone noticed that when the whole Venezuela conversation 386 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: took place, and you have the operation that took place, 387 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: where was Tulsi Gabbard, She's the Director of National Intelligence. 388 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 2: Where was Tulsi Gabbard in this conversation. 389 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: Well, according to the Wall Street Journal, Trump and Gabbard 390 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: are not necessarily close. He wanted to limit the amount 391 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: of people who were involved in the operation. 392 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: She was not part of it. She was in Hawaii. 393 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: Am I to believe that the Director of National Intelligence 394 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: wasn't given a heads up? Well did she learn about 395 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: this on the news and say, oh my gosh. Part 396 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: of the issue when Gabert took the position was the 397 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: idea that she has her own agenda, and the agenda 398 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: is not to present the president with everything, but rather 399 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: the agenda is, well, here's how I feel about these things. 400 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: So I'm only going to present it this one way, 401 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: which is not something I want from the DNI. I 402 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: want the DNI, the Director of National Intelligence presenting the totality. 403 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: Here's what we've got. Now, if you ask me my opinion, 404 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: here's what I think it means. What do I think 405 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: we should do with There would be another question you 406 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: can ask me. But in the end, mister president, that's 407 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: that's up to you. But if you don't present all 408 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: the information, how is it possible for the president or 409 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: anybody else to make a decision. They weren't given all 410 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: of the information, therefore not given all the opportunities, therefore 411 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: not able to look around corners and see what might 412 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: be possible. 413 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: Right, That's that's the thing. So was she left out 414 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: for that purpose that she does some things that he 415 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: likes and it's not enough. 416 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: To bother him and he doesn't want to have to 417 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: change members of the cabinet because that would only give 418 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: the press a story. Or was she actually kept out 419 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: of this conversation because in the conversation she wouldn't give 420 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: good information, She wouldn't provide good data. 421 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think. 422 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: It's very very interesting, Like it's interesting that Trump is 423 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: threatening all hell on the Iranian regime. The protesters are 424 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: in the streets, they are was it setting photos of 425 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: the isotola on fire? They are taking over certain cities. 426 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: They want the iatola gone, and the pressure is on. 427 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: They have an opportunity to have a very very good Iran, 428 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: make Iran Persia again, as I would say. But someone 429 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: brought something up that I thought was fascinating. I had 430 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: not considered, which is strange because I've said to you, 431 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: and you may have said yourself, that Iran has a 432 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: chance at a really good life without the Ayatola. But 433 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: it never dawned on me, or it never made me 434 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: question or think whether or not Iran would not be 435 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: a Muslim nation. That thought never occurred to me. That 436 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: thought never occurred to me at all. Well, Tony, they 437 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: would be a Muslim nation. But they're a Muslim nation now, 438 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: So what are they protesting. What are they actually pushing 439 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: back against. Well, there's all the sanctions, and well there's 440 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: the religious police, and well there's all these restrictions, and 441 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 1: they've executed nineteen hundred people in twenty twenty five, and 442 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: so they are pushing back on some things, like the 443 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: Islamist things, which takes me to this post. 444 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: On x from a guy by the name of Simon Fox. 445 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. 446 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: Who Simon Fox is, but I saw the post because 447 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: it was actually quoted by Monty Python or John Cleese. 448 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: I was like, what is this? Let me read it 449 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: to you. 450 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: BBC News is deliberately ignoring the revolution in Iran. Well, 451 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: we could say that about a lot of news sources, 452 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 1: a lot of new sources, a so called news sources, 453 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: news organizations, not sources of anything except dribble. They've been 454 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: ignoring the story. Why are they ignoring the story? And 455 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: this is what he asked, And why is that? Why 456 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: is BBC News ignoring the story? 457 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: He writes. 458 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: My guess is they don't want to broadcast the fact 459 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: that an entire nation is rejecting Islamism. The BBC doesn't 460 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: want to offend Islamists in the UK and elsewhere. 461 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: You ever hear something. 462 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: That you have said differently nineteen million times, but somebody comes. 463 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: Along, no matter who they are, and says it with 464 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: a succinctness that makes you go, son of a mother, 465 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: Holy cow? Is that smart? Like the minute you hear it, 466 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: you're like. 467 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: Oh, let me give you a follow up to that 468 00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: real quick. 469 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: This is the UAE United Arab Emirates. 470 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: In June of twenty twenty five, the UAE Ministry of 471 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: Education moved all British universities from its approved list for 472 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: government scholarships, citing risks of Islamist radicalization linked to the 473 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood. So the UAE won't allow citizens to study 474 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: in British universities for fear of being radicalized by the 475 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: Muslim Brotherhood Islamists on those campuses. 476 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: That's two I have a friend. One is a coincidence, 477 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: two is a data point. Three as a trend. 478 00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: He'll text me, He'll remind me what it is we're 479 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: seeing for the first time that I can note a 480 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: recognition that a reformation is necessary in Islam, which we've 481 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: discussed here. If you don't have that, and you have 482 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: these Islamists who truly believe they are they truly, truly 483 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: truly believe that their job is indeed takeover. This is 484 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: just one of many many posts that exists out there 485 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: from these Islamists on social media and other places. 486 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 6: We don't say that Islam is here to live, you know, 487 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 6: to coexist with lots of different religions and all of 488 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 6: us can just hold hands of befriends. This religion was 489 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 6: sent to dominate the world. It was sent to be superior, 490 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 6: to extinguish the light of every other religion and to 491 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 6: be superior to it. We're not shy to see it, 492 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 6: and we don't find that to be something that we 493 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 6: should be shy to see that this religion has been 494 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 6: sent to dominate, to wipe out, to take out every 495 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 6: other religion too. 496 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: Well, sounds like a religion a peace to me. Are 497 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: we seeing a recognition that you cannot coexist with the Islamists? 498 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: You cannot have the Islamists? And we are seeing news 499 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: organizations refuse to report on what's happening in Iran because 500 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: they don't want to upset the Islamist. There's so much 501 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: truth in that. My God, Well said, keep it here. 502 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Kats. This is Tony Kats Today. 503 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: So I asked Risha Landon, what do we be discussing next? 504 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: And he said, well, what about. 505 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: Representative Costume Cortes accusing Jesse Waters of sexual harassment? And 506 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: I said, oh, yeah, that is insane. Tony Katz, Tony 507 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: Katz today, Good to be with you. Did you not 508 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: hear this? This happened? Jesse Waters didn't do anything wrong. 509 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 1: I've never met Jesse, I've never worked with Jesse nothing, 510 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: But she actually accused him of harassments, and it was 511 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: caught on video. In terms of the questions that were 512 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: asked of a Costio Cortes, here, excuse. 513 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: Us the tombuddy. He has sexualized me on his show. 514 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 2: He has sexually harassed me on his show. 515 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 5: He has engaged in horrific sexually exploitative. 516 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: It's true. 517 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 3: It is true, because he accused. 518 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 4: Me of sleepy, of wanting to quote unquote sleep with 519 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 4: Stephen Miller. 520 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 5: So why don't you tell me what you think is 521 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 5: acceptable to tell a woman? 522 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 2: Thank you, I'll tell you, maybe you want to sleep 523 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: with Stephen Miller. What? Who the hell are you? Aren't 524 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 2: you the one? 525 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: Wait a second, wasn't a Cosio Cortes who said about somebody, 526 00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: Oh they just want to date me. 527 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: Wasn't that her? 528 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: You don't think it's wrong to say. No one's ever 529 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: said of a man, oh he just wants to sleep with. 530 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: No one ever said a woman, Oh she just wants 531 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: to sleep with I'm not saying that we should talk 532 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: like that. But here you are answering your question. I 533 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: think that's one of Jesse Water's producers. I think that's 534 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: who that was, And you just make this accusation of 535 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: sexual harassment. 536 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: You're weak, you really are. You're weak. 537 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: And I think the issue is that she's upset that 538 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: Jesse Waters won't dat her. I think that's very obvious 539 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: at this stage. How dare he be a happily married 540 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: man with a new baby. Why won't he love me? 541 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: That's a jolted lover, a Cassio Cortez right there, Tony