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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Dead and Hip Hop Podcast. I

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Speaker 1: guess we'll figure out exactly how.

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Speaker 2: What to call it, but version yeah, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: our the pilot, the pilot. The voices you hear is Rod.

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Speaker 1: The voice you are familiar with, and another voice, uh

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Speaker 1: a number if you are familiar with is Spike from

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Speaker 1: on Deck TV show What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Fellas, what up?

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Speaker 3: Don't?

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Speaker 2: Uh? So, I'm I'm excited about this man.

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Speaker 1: You know, Rod and I we met in December, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we've been going through a lot of changes

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Speaker 1: on dead End and we're just we're talking about ways

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Speaker 1: to move forward and ways to kind of reinvent ourselves

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Speaker 1: and you know, so uh, this was was one of

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Speaker 1: the ideas.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we got here with the two of us.

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Speaker 1: Kind of working together, part it together to figure out

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Speaker 1: ways to bring stuff to you guys of value and

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Speaker 1: uh and that's informative and entertaining. So we hope you

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Speaker 1: guys rock with this. We welcome all feedback moving forward

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Speaker 1: on ways to improve what you guys like, what you

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Speaker 1: guys didn't like. So uh, but but we appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys listening to tune again and giving.

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Speaker 2: Us a shot.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to say, I'm really interested in this,

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Speaker 3: like this is a Larry like I'm I'm reading as

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Speaker 3: the industry thing. I want to I'm really interested to

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Speaker 3: see how this goes and seeing y'all and being a

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Speaker 3: part of doing this with other artists too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: So since this is the beginning, I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: guys kind of an overview of how it's gonna go.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna open with current news man, things that's

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Speaker 1: just happening and in the indus, in the culture that's

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Speaker 1: worth talking about, So we'll we'll open with that.

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Speaker 2: Then we're gonna pay tribute man. Uh well, we'll.

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Speaker 1: Just talk about some old school hip hop legends, so

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Speaker 1: we have that we will recognize some of the greats

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Speaker 1: artists that pass. It could be about a trend that's

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Speaker 1: no longer popping anymore. And then you know, maybe kind

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Speaker 1: of have this big overall like main theme conversation, you know,

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Speaker 1: as well, and then we'll close out with an artist spotlight,

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of like the outline that we have

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Speaker 1: And and yeah, we'll preach out you guys listening and

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Speaker 1: let us know what you guys think. So let's start

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Speaker 1: with our hip hop minute. And fortunately, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of news that happened. And the first one that happened, y'all,

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Speaker 1: was about Kanye West apologizing for his behavior over the

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Speaker 1: even and it's been very detrimental to him, very harmful

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Speaker 1: you know, the Jewish community, the Black community, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: We stopped covering him on the show.

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Speaker 1: Be Tapped all the Way Out, Black people tapped all

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Speaker 1: the Way Out with Kanye, and he took out an

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Speaker 1: ad in the Wall Street Journal apologizing to everyone and

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Speaker 1: saying that it was due to the accident that he

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Speaker 1: years ago, and he said in twenty twenty three, he

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Speaker 1: issues or whatever. So yeah, so it's this big long

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think, Man, is this gonna work

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Speaker 1: for Kanye? Do you guys like, where are we at

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Speaker 1: with with with what he's doing with this?

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Speaker 4: I think I think people will look just over it,

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Speaker 4: bro Like, to be quite honest, like, I think it's

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Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, who cares at this point? It's going

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Speaker 5: I want to say he did something with Charlamagne one.

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Speaker 4: Time he did an interview with them when he opened

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Speaker 5: I think that's what we found out about the bipolar.

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Speaker 4: Then right then he went then he went like the

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Speaker 5: That way like we've seen so many different, so many

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Speaker 4: I think at this point people are just over it,

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Speaker 4: Like like people that were fans like are just over now.

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Speaker 4: He still has this cult following on me, you know,

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Speaker 4: but I think just regular Kanye with West fans, I

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Speaker 4: which is the music, right the way he did the music.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the only thing that could even remotely

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Speaker 5: After you know, immediately you know, following the apology.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know, man, I just don't It

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter, Like to me, it just doesn't matter. It

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Speaker 4: just it's just like it just blows in the wind

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Speaker 4: and I saw it and it's just like okay.

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Speaker 3: Next thing, I'm with Rod and being that I do

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Speaker 3: a pot castie on the TV show with a self

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Speaker 3: described Kanye West stand. He was explaining to me of

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Speaker 3: how sincere this apology sound again? And I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 3: just like with Russ said, I don't care. I'm not

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Speaker 3: reading that. It's over like I stopped caring, like I

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Speaker 3: don't like you can be as sincere. It could be great,

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Speaker 3: it could be turning the new leaf. He had a

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Speaker 3: he has an interview with Vanity Fair. It's coming out.

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Speaker 3: I think too was already came out, So mainstream entities

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Speaker 3: of the stuff that he did. But as a casual

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Speaker 3: or just regular Kanye fan, I'm like with Rod saying,

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Speaker 3: like the music like if the music, like if something,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not going to listen to the album unless

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Speaker 3: somebody sends it to me and be like no, like

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Speaker 3: that it's gonna take I'm not going like, I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna be curious, Like none of that's going to happen

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Speaker 3: in the sense of I'm waiting on this or paying

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Speaker 3: saying earlier, Rod, like I could him off in my

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Speaker 3: world a long time ago. I don't hate him or

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Speaker 3: anything like that. You can just exist over there and

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Speaker 3: I don't in my world, like you're not gonna even

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Speaker 3: register on I don't read the tweets, I don't nothing

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Speaker 3: that you do comes across my desk.

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Speaker 2: He needs to have protocols in place.

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Speaker 1: For when he has one of the episodes that people

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Speaker 1: take his stuff away.

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Speaker 2: You know, he.

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Speaker 1: Apologized again to the Jewish communities, he wrote, he said,

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Speaker 1: it does not excuse what I did, though I am

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Speaker 1: not a Nazi or anti Semi.

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Speaker 2: I love Jewish people, I say, oh okay.

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Speaker 1: Then to the black community, which we got the shortest

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Speaker 1: paragraph of all. We got like two sentences which held

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Speaker 1: me down through all the highs and lows in the

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Speaker 1: darkness of times. The black community is unquestionably the foundation

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Speaker 1: who I am. I'm sorry to have let you down.

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Speaker 2: I love us, and that's what he said.

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Speaker 1: So it feels like it might be too late for

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Speaker 1: Kanye to come back. I do find it interesting that

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Speaker 1: this is on the heels of an album, an album

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Speaker 1: that was actually supposed to come out.

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Speaker 3: Friday, pushed back, pushed back to March.

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Speaker 2: And Bully got pushed back to March.

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Speaker 1: Apology Wall Street Journal covered by Everybody, Vanity Fair interview,

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Speaker 1: other interviews lined up. Now we're building up, and this

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Speaker 1: could all just be part of the plan, because you know,

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Speaker 1: nobody's really interested and everybody's done with you, and it's

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Speaker 1: hard to get back in black people's good graces. Bro,

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Speaker 1: When when they when they turn you.

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Speaker 2: Back on you. It's it's it's really really difficult.

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Speaker 1: And and I and I you know, I hope he

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Speaker 1: I hope he's sincere.

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Speaker 2: His actions would tell.

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Speaker 1: But one of the things that Kanye has is that

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Speaker 1: or the reason for why he's behaving the way he did.

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Speaker 2: So we'll find out.

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Speaker 3: Even if you're in sent here, though, I beg go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say real quick, I mean, and in

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Speaker 4: November he went, y'all remember when he went and talked

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Speaker 4: to the rabbi andized, Yeah, It's like, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: don't know, like, like, why is this even?

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Speaker 5: Like you know, it's like it's like.

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Speaker 3: The old fairy tale that we all learned who was

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Speaker 3: coming up the boy, the crowd, wolf were all the townspeople.

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Speaker 3: Now like you're like, bro, you're gonna do this apology,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna drop this album, and then maybe a year

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Speaker 3: from now, two years from now, you're gonna do some

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that he's like the music can

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Speaker 3: be good, but that place that he had with most people,

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Speaker 3: if they not stands, he'll never get that back.

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Speaker 5: You know, he'll never get it back.

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Speaker 3: No, he don't got it. Ain't another Jesus Walks or

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Speaker 3: through the wire or slow jams that he could do.

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Speaker 3: They make it, they can get that back. I think

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Speaker 3: more open to him than they are right now. So this,

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Speaker 3: this little pr campaign that he's doing could work in

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Speaker 3: the sense of now I will read the New York

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Speaker 3: Times article, now I will go check out the album

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Speaker 3: Versus My Stance that I have now if I hear

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Speaker 3: more from him, but it'll never I'll never be in

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Speaker 3: a place that I was with him, Like most people

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Speaker 3: that fuck with him was like, oh he was one

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Speaker 3: like only speaking highly of him, like he's burnt that

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Speaker 1: M moving on, man, speaking of burnt bridges, we have

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Speaker 1: Pharrell and chat Hugo at Odds again. This hit the

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Speaker 1: text threads earlier this week, and Chad is suing Pharrell.

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Speaker 1: He filed a federal lawsuit in January twenty twenty sixth

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Speaker 1: a legend and fraudulent conduct reach a contract and withholding

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Speaker 1: millions and royalties from their joint music production and Nerve

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Speaker 1: NRD project. The suit demands a full accounting and claims damages,

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Speaker 1: potentially a seeding one million market a major split. Pharrell

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Speaker 1: has responded and said that it's a little premature and

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Speaker 1: and that they're working with them to get this whole

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Speaker 1: thing resolved. So yeah, he said, standard account reviews already

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Speaker 1: in process progress. The lawsuit filed as premature as there

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Speaker 1: may not even be a dispute between the parties. What

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Speaker 4: I saw it, it just it's just not as much

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Speaker 5: Come on, bro, like just just selling this out of court.

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Speaker 3: With Rod in the sense of, even if you're not

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Speaker 3: I don't want another negative thing out there about me.

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Speaker 3: If I'm for Real to where people start now side

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Speaker 3: ain't me? So yeah, this could have been settled. I

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Speaker 3: even if you own them or not. I feel like

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Speaker 4: Here, just bro, for real, just gifted push your t

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Speaker 5: I know Chad, Like I bet Chace saw that was

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Speaker 2: Chat was like he was like, you don't run it.

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Speaker 3: Lost, so we would sit all go foul that ship.

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Speaker 4: Now, bro, can you imagine like what this man was

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Speaker 5: That and for real constantly be getting people.

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Speaker 4: It's like giving him Louis but like when he gave

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Speaker 4: sure he'd be like, man, look all right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Real, Chad should should just start a tech company as

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Speaker 1: I was interested people actually care about this, but because

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Speaker 1: Drake won't let it go. He's a pill.

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Speaker 2: The lawsuit dismissal.

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Speaker 5: Is this real? Is this actually real?

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Speaker 1: Music Business Worldwide dot Com covered it, everybody else is

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Speaker 1: covered it, and he said that the brief argues Spike

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Speaker 5: Why is he acting like he didn't participate in this beef.

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Speaker 3: I think the weakest part about this is I'm not

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a this song. You said in this

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Speaker 3: do understand the appeal and that they may win it,

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Speaker 3: but why continue, Like if I don't care about that

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's getting bad advice from lawyers. He

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Speaker 3: But with that being said, the lawyer is the swamp

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if if if Kendrick or UMG did the things

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Speaker 3: Like, this is just the appeal though they still that's

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Speaker 3: That's only if this appeal goes. So that's why I

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Speaker 1: The judge's gonna have to be like, well, yeah, well

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Speaker 1: it depends, because it seemed like Judge Vargas was very

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Speaker 1: And I think that is a very very key line

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Speaker 1: how about you bring something that's actually winnable, you know,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought that's why you said he was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, either way, he had to pay them more money.

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Speaker 3: And if you win, you got to pay more money

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Speaker 4: The judge is just like, oh my god, I know

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Speaker 4: it's just like Nigga, get over it. Like I know

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Speaker 4: she probably just want to say that, Like I'm sure

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Speaker 4: she just wanted to say, like, bro, just just stop

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Speaker 4: it stopping you're defaming yourself right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think the only play that I could see that

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Speaker 3: We're not dealing with you no more. You're not hot

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Speaker 3: no more. But I don't think they would do that

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Speaker 2: So yeah, well we'll see.

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Speaker 1: The last thing, you know, is they argue is that

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Speaker 1: Judge Bargains made an error about considering the song only

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Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, that has been the hip hop minute.

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Speaker 1: Some pretty big stuff that happened last week. Now let's

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Speaker 1: jump into Uh, we're still working on a workshopping title.

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Speaker 1: But if the old school didn't pave the way, Spike.

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Speaker 1: This came from Tupac's album I don't know if you're

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Speaker 3: Against the World Stop There. You can only do that

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Speaker 3: with Mob Deep and Woo Tang and all of them.

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Speaker 3: If it was the Low Baltimore, I was on it gotcha.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, man, look, in January we had the birth

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Speaker 2: To that brother.

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Speaker 1: And before him, you had punchlines, you had party rhymes,

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Speaker 1: And so a couple of questions I have for you guys, man,

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Speaker 2: So what do you guys think about that?

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Speaker 5: Hmm? That's a good hmm. It could have possibly started

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Speaker 4: To say that Rod Kim affected hip hop.

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Speaker 5: In a negative way. I guess like I think I

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Speaker 4: I don't I wouldn't put that all on rock Kim.

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Speaker 4: I think because of so early ahead.

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Speaker 2: What if I said that because I agree with you like.

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Speaker 1: It, it morphed into that, and it evolved into acceptability

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think with rock Kim also, although he

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Speaker 5: It was a good combination of rap. So I don't think.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it was un till you know, cats

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Speaker 4: I think that's what pretty much created that, you know,

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00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 4: rappers just saying I'm the best at this and the

436
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 4: best at that, versus like somebody in Florida.

437
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 5: We just we just want to.

438
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 4: See girls shaking their asses or you know, just party,

439
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 4: you know, doing you know, dancing at a.

440
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 5: Party or whatever. We're more focus focused on that. So

441
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 5: I don't know, I feel like rock Kim just had

442
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 5: a good blend of both of them. Like like like

443
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 5: I said, the music just you know, you you bounce to.

444
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: It, Mike, were you a fan?

445
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: I had to go back they listen because it was

446
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 3: one of those things when you're young and you're having

447
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: a conversation and you like crediting somebody for something, and

448
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: then somebody old and you be like, nah, nah, you

449
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 3: need to go listen to this. And I know people

450
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 3: will say, like Nas changed hip hop in the sense

451
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: of his flow and everything was illmatic. And I was

452
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: having that conversation with someone old and it was like, nah,

453
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: you need to listen to rock Kim. Like rock Kim

454
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: was the one that introduced that and made lyrics as important.

455
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: It still had that bop jazz like to it, like

456
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: Rob was saying, but rock Kim was the one. It

457
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: was really like the Ryan patterns were different. The flow

458
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: was different. It's it's different from what we hear, like

459
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: the I said, have one't to bring you to the

460
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: four like that shit, Like rock Kim wasn't doing it

461
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: like you was like he was really saying some shit

462
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 3: and that did raise the bar in hip hop, and

463
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: it did have kind of elitism to it. But I

464
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: don't think it was him. I don't think it was

465
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: on him. I think it was the people following him

466
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 3: saying that if I could do this just as good

467
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 3: as him, I can get it in my bag. Well, I

468
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: don't got to care about the beach or a hero

469
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: or a single just because I can rap really good,

470
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 3: I'm better than you. I think that this may have

471
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 3: burthted it, but I don't think that's a negative thing either.

472
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: I think you need those different Johns.

473
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: You know what was interesting And I didn't even consider

474
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: this until I recently did for frames or so long

475
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: in the Last Dragon and Miles watched it with me,

476
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: and that movie is from nineteen eighty six and they

477
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: were rapping like that. Though Miles has never heard that before.

478
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: So when you heard it, he was like, what is that?

479
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: Why does it sound like that? What is wrong with him?

480
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: He had never heard it before. It was so because

481
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: I grew up with it. He only heard like what

482
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: is rap? What rap is like today? And hearing like him,

483
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: I'm still processing what it all means, but it's like

484
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: to him, he was like, something sounds wrong with that guy,

485
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: Like he's off. And it really helped polish and take

486
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: rap to a whole new, whole another. It really elevated

487
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 1: the art form and we we wouldn't have that without

488
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: Rack Kim. It could have easily died off if it

489
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: didn't evolve, So salute to him.

490
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: And the question that I have.

491
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: For you guys just off of this, because he came

492
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: in and became like one of the great rappers. What

493
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: in present day or just overall, what do you guys

494
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: think a great rapper sounds like.

495
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 5: M you said a great rapper.

496
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. What what if we had to build this

497
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: example of it? Mm hmmm. Damn.

498
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 5: I mean I think the president example is a Kendred right, because.

499
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 3: You got to look at it like that. I think

500
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: that's for us. If you building a present day example,

501
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 3: you're really trying to appeel more to the youth. Kendrick.

502
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 3: Don't know, like you would have to go to like

503
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: a road wave or someone that has that type of

504
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: rap style.

505
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 2: You're talking about, what a great rapper?

506
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: A rap? Okay? Yeah, in today's times though, that's what

507
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 3: they consider a great rapper.

508
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I think with with with a Kendrick, it's undenoable, right,

509
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: Like I think it's undenoable from any person, like whether

510
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 4: you're young, whether you're old, whether you're middle age. I

511
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: think I think, let me, let me get it out.

512
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 4: I think, no matter what you're gonna say, that guy

513
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: could rap. He's a great rapper. It's not my taste

514
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: per se. And sometimes you know, some of the things

515
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: you rap about go over my head.

516
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, I think he's

517
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 5: a great rapper.

518
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: And any race, any culture, most people are gonna say

519
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 4: Kendrick Lamar is a great rapper, and I think the

520
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: like not like us proved. I mean, he was able

521
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: to do all of that stuff on a grand stage

522
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: of the Super Bowl, Like how many rappers do you

523
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: know that can can do that? I also think Drake

524
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: can actually be a great rapper. I think the Big

525
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: Three were a good example of great rappers to be

526
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: quite honest, when you think about it, Like like j

527
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 4: Cole was very palatable for people, like I just had

528
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 4: a conversation with my with my nineteen year old or whatever.

529
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: So she's trying to put together the showcase right now,

530
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 4: and she in the showcase is like Kendrick Lamar level,

531
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 4: like heady or whatever, and I'm like, you might need

532
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 4: to dumb that down for some people a little bit

533
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: because they might go over their heads a little bit.

534
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: I know, you're trying to get tickets for this thing, right,

535
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: And so she was just like suits, and I said,

536
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: you might want to go you know, more Drake with it,

537
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 4: and then she was like, no, I don't want to

538
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: go full Drake. And so she was just like, who's

539
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 4: a rapper that you know? It's kind of like both

540
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 4: and I was and she was just like J Cole.

541
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: J Cole is a mixture of both. I think J

542
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: Cole could do it both. So if you don't like

543
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: my Kendrick answer, I can even go a J Cole round,

544
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: I can say J Cole.

545
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: I think that answer resonnates for us because we still

546
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: listen to hip hop today and we still remember what

547
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: a great rapper was. But I think if you look

548
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: forward to the next generation, if you're building a rapper

549
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: for longevity, if you take Kendrick as an example, what

550
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: you get is j I D and JID makes amazing music.

551
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: He's a really good rapper, but he's just as resignate

552
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: with a very large fan base. He has a niche

553
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: fan base, but he probably could never be Kendrick Lamar.

554
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, because I don't think he's quite Kendrick Lamar.

555
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 4: I think Jed like I love Jed, and I think

556
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 4: he should be be bigger than what he is right now.

557
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 5: What you did get a good little with this last

558
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 5: With this last album.

559
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: He got a lot more attention than he normally does,

560
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: right I just think he does like that double time

561
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: and all that stuff really well. Kendrick's able to do

562
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 4: that along with some other things like people are doing

563
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: freaking like I said, like writing essays on some of

564
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 4: the stuff that he does. Man's one has won a

565
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: What's what's the award?

566
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 5: He won the.

567
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: Politic Surprise Politic Serprise.

568
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: Like he's done so much. He's he's made a big

569
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: hit with not like us. He's done so many different things.

570
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: He made Damn, he's made good kid man City Like,

571
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: it's so much that he's done.

572
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm not arguing his resume. I'm agreeing with you there.

573
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: I think then I need to ask again about the question.

574
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: Ken You're saying, if I'm building a rapper in twenty

575
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: twenty six, and then Rod, you're saying you would want

576
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: him to sound like Kendrick.

577
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: No, Well, okay, Initially I said Kendrick. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

578
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 4: Initially I said Kendrick.

579
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

580
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 5: I think I think I might keep. I think might.

581
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: I don't think, but a rapper can come out today

582
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: sounded like Kendrick Lamar. I don't think that's possible. Yeah,

583
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: I don't think that. People I know, the fan, I

584
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: don't even think the consumer like that that's like really

585
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: into music today has the palette for what Kendrick Lamar

586
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: can do, which is why I brought up J I D.

587
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 3: Because if they did, then Jim would be more popping.

588
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: So if you, uh, but but he took out the

589
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: biggest rapper in hip hop, which is Drake.

590
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 5: I mean at all.

591
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I wouldn't. I wouldn't recreate that as

592
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: a If I were a manager in A and R,

593
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: a record EXECU, if someone walked in my office and

594
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: they sounded like Kendrick Lamar, I probably would pass.

595
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: Well that depends if yeah, well that that's if you're

596
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: trying to do album selves. But in respect, build a

597
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: great rapper, yeah we if we if if we had yeah, yeah,

598
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: a great rapper to the I think can do the

599
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: best of both worlds. You can be lyrically depth like Kendrick,

600
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: and you can also have commercial appeal. And I think

601
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: that's why Kendrick works so well as a model, because

602
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: he can.

603
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: He has the best of both worlds.

604
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: He's able to entertain and he can be also real layer.

605
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: He can make conceptual albums as well. I think the

606
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: step below that and I think role you named two

607
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: good ones would be Ja Cole.

608
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: I think j Cole is is really like.

609
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: A good version of like a mainstream rapper, even though

610
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: he's not super mainstream, right, So I think you can't

611
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: go wrong with either one of them in present day.

612
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: I think the ones that you were describing Spike are

613
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: more in line with like trends and stuff that's going

614
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: on with how it sounds today. But I wouldn't classify

615
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: them as great rappers.

616
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: Maybe good artists, right, I want to be called.

617
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: I don't think Wave is a great rapper. I just yeah,

618
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: that's the truth.

619
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: Nas and jay Z were great rappers. Then you go

620
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: to the underground.

621
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: You have a lot of different molds, so I think, yeah, yeah,

622
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: so I think you have you know, Rob Marcy, mf

623
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: du So, you have a lot that could be considered

624
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: great rappers. So I think, you know, versatility sounds like

625
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: would would be a thing that I would definitely look for.

626
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like J cole.

627
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: My outside the box answer would be J Cole. I

628
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: think it's the correct answer. If I was thinking outside

629
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: of the box, though, I would think of somebody like

630
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: Kodak Kodak Black, who hell no, because he can people

631
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: love him. I'm telling y'all. That would be like if yeah.

632
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's not outside.

633
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 4: Rockers, man, that's a that's a that's a hot take.

634
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: Not saying that Kodak ca because Koreak can't rap. Kodak

635
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: can rap. He does have an appeal to him and

636
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 4: he can kids like to.

637
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

638
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 5: But but but he's not getting respected by everybody. Let's

639
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 5: just be clear.

640
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: He's insane. Like if I feel like if he was

641
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 3: more of an artist and wasn't outside as much, then.

642
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 4: Even outside of the even the outside of being the same,

643
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: he's not going to get the respect from everybody. I

644
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 4: feel like Kendrick Lamar gets the respect from any and everybody.

645
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: You can act like you can't you don't, but you'll

646
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 4: just be lying to yourself. This man sold out shows

647
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 4: across the country and outside of the country. Like, this

648
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: is the guy that you want. This is the model

649
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 4: that you want. You want a guy that can sell

650
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: out arenas. You want a guy that can actually rap.

651
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: You want a guy that can appeal to the commercial

652
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: with the damn he just took out the biggest commercial

653
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: act in hip hop.

654
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 5: What other rapper can do this? Like like that's what

655
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

656
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: I don't know no other rapper that could compare with kendrickl'

657
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: I think he's He's the king of rap for a reason.

658
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 5: This is the rapper the he is the model. He

659
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 5: is the mold.

660
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: Speaking of models in Mold Rod.

661
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: Also in January we had January twenty twenty twenty one,

662
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: we had in nineteen eighty five, Jesus, get that out

663
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: of there.

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00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: L cool J released Radio and.

665
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: You know, looking back in history, their argument could be

666
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: made that it was the birth of the solo rap star.

667
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: So again, there was a shift in the culture that

668
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: took place where you had DJ Cruse sort of center

669
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: music and artists and groups too, it being more personality driven,

670
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, individuality, you know, mainstream appeal. L L COOLJ

671
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: came out and made a case for himself And we've

672
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: actually had this conversation on dead End.

673
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 2: A while ago.

674
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: So thoughts on L L inventing the modern day brand rapper.

675
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely, Like I said, y'all want to see that

676
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 4: conversation in the full in depth. Go back in and look.

677
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 4: I forgot the name of it. But if you type

678
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 4: of LL didn't hip hop, it'll probably come up. But yeah, absolutely,

679
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: I don't think he was crazy at all for saying that.

680
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 4: Like he he paved the way for the drinks of

681
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 4: the world and and people that that are these modern

682
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 4: brand rappers.

683
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 5: I mean he had like all type of commercial.

684
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 4: Deals and he had He did dig combo songs with

685
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: with with with R and B singers, like he was

686
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 4: the first to do that type of stuff.

687
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Like l L is the reason I want

688
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: to well KINGO had. He's the reason I want to

689
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: as fans. He the reason that I bought a boombox.

690
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: He the reason that I considered food like he he

691
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: was deep first and the He was the person I

692
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: think pop was based off him to an extent. Snoop

693
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: like you said, Drake, like there's so many like he

694
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: was the first model of no I'm that nigga, Like,

695
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: it ain't the crew, it ain't the DJ, it ain't

696
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: me and him, it's me LLL cool J. Mama said

697
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 3: knock you out radio like I'm bad, Like that was

698
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: the first like rapper that I was like, Oh Ship,

699
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: he was like I was real big into wrestling. He

700
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 3: was the only one that compelled like wrestlers to me,

701
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: Like that's how I was like, oh Ship, Like I

702
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: had a poster of ll in my room. He was

703
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: the first person. I feel like they did that for me.

704
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I think I ain't think about pop with

705
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: no shirt and stuff like no shirt the girls songs.

706
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah that yeah.

707
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: Man, Like I used to love I Need Little, I

708
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: had to like, I wouldn't listen to I Need Love

709
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: from any other rapper, but like he the only person

710
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 3: to get that off.

711
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah, yeah, that's that's yeah, that's real.

712
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 2: That's really I love that song man.

713
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I never considered it until he brought it

714
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: up and we had the discussion. And the funny thing

715
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: is we're talking about the two rappers that were in

716
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: that video.

717
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: I wasn't rock him and cool J. That was the debate,

718
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, I think in.

719
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Terms of like, you know, personality and that, yeah, you

720
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: have to look at him as being the guy. And

721
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: that's how we got to where we are today. If

722
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Speaker 1: you guys had to pick what a rap star would

723
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: look like, any any ideas of what that would be.

724
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: L l.

725
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: With the shirt off and the cano in the boom

726
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: box and the Adidas track pains, Yeah that that that

727
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: would be it. Okay, So now Drake, it would probably

728
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: be a lady.

729
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: Drake was the rap star.

730
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 3: I don't know if he idealed I think t I

731
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: liked more of your ideal rap persona, but he had

732
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: everything that she was looking for. Like that's another branch

733
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Speaker 3: off the L three.

734
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Speaker 1: T I gotcha, gotcha, of course you are.

735
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 4: So you're saying somebody that that would be like a

736
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: ll today you're asking.

737
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know if if, yeah, like who would

738
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: be a rap star, like a big personality that everybody's

739
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: just rawn to.

740
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: I think there are women now, if we're being honest, Cardi, Nikki,

741
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: meg Glow, Lotto.

742
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 5: That's a good take all of them.

743
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: That they took that and they ran with him. Because

744
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: sex sales, we're more inclined to see what women doing

745
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: versus a man. I think it's all of those ladies.

746
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 4: That's a good perspective actually, because we are thinking just men.

747
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, the ladies have come in and like heay,

748
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 4: the crazy way that's still.

749
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 5: Going, I think.

750
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 4: I remember at one point, I think even Joe Budden

751
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: was thought thought it was the rain was over, but

752
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 4: it's not.

753
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 5: They're sticking around like.

754
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: Around, Yeah, it's expanding now.

755
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which I think is dopeep.

756
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, No, I agree. It's time to pull out

757
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: a little liquor.

758
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 2: Man, you know, uh, two.

759
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: References wrong.

760
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: Speaking around superstars.

761
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: So I wish Sunny was here because he's a big

762
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: Mac Miller fan and a fan of this tape. I

763
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: think we did actually cover this tape, but in in January.

764
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: Faces Were was released.

765
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: And also this was a bit confusing to me when

766
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: I when I was just checking out everything m F.

767
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: Doom and so.

768
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: But what happened was he didn't actually die in January.

769
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: We found out about.

770
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: It in January, and I think it was later confirmed

771
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: that his actual passing was October thirty first. But the

772
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: significance of January when it relates to M F. Doom

773
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: is that that's when his death was publican announced from

774
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: what I was seeing out there as I was kind

775
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: of putting this together, So.

776
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: I guess part of a little liquor for them man, MF.

777
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: Doom Mac Miller both had very, very very huge contributions

778
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: to the culture, impactful in their own way and huge

779
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: fan basis.

780
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: People love Macmiller.

781
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: Some of your favorite rappers love Mac Miller, and so yeah,

782
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: shout out to them.

783
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: Spike. Have you ever heard the Faces project by Macmiller?

784
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: Yes, I've heard Faces, and it was another one that

785
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: I heard I'm not a big the biggest Macmiller fan,

786
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: but I did respect. I liked him a little bit.

787
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: She got you what about m F Doom? Never heard anything?

788
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: Really No, I think I don't think I've ever heard

789
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: one MF.

790
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: Loom.

791
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 5: So I'll send that to you too, man like. But again,

792
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 5: like m F is a bigger challenge than I think

793
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 5: of Rock Monciano. But I think Rock is MN for.

794
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 4: Like I can't remember who can, Like I think maybe

795
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: Rock is a baby off if I'm getting that right.

796
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Rock would have to be a baby.

797
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 3: But that's the crazy thing about Like I know exactly

798
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: who he is, I know his impact, I know how

799
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: like I know all of that, but I've never i think,

800
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: listened to it.

801
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 2: So mhmm. Yeah, we have to we have to have

802
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: you back.

803
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 6: Man to do do something with I think I think

804
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 6: we got to create a show centered around Spike, like

805
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 6: like get like homework assignments almost can like, yeah, we

806
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 6: got to get homework the Simons to people like I

807
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 6: think I think Swike is just.

808
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 5: Like spawned the show I did.

809
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: Bro. Funny thing is I actually talked to Spike.

810
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: I don't know about that talk about that.

811
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did so yep, so I'm with you. I

812
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: think definitely got to revisit that idea.

813
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: Especially now they're you know, we're reinventing ourselves that that

814
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: would be dope.

815
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 5: Hip pop homework. As Simons bro we pop homework assignments.

816
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: I think I think that because because people are always

817
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: asking us like for suggestions, like over the years and

818
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 4: like okay, because we've listened to so much music, I

819
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 4: think we're in a space of being able to assign

820
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 4: homework assignments.

821
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: And we have the report cards with grading althems right

822
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: as well, right as well as right.

823
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: If y'all had to think off the top of your head,

824
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the albums.

825
00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: Which one Mad Villainy, Mean Food one of those.

826
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: One of them say Mad Villainy Demos.

827
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: It's not it, No, it should just be it should

828
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: be just Mad Villainy, but either that one or Moon Food.

829
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, as we so we'll revisit it.

830
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: If you guys are listening to this and want us

831
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: to revisit this with Spike, please let us know.

832
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: Hit the comment session. It is up on social et cetera,

833
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: et cetera.

834
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: We have a live coming up, so we're gonna get

835
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: ready to close out with some quick thoughts on the

836
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: next one with get rich A Die Trying, which was

837
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: released January seventeen, twenty two thousand and three.

838
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: Some facts about the Albue.

839
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: It was debut number one, eight hundred and seventy thousand the.

840
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: First week and was definitely a peak.

841
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 5: Bro.

842
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: Think about that. It's insane.

843
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 3: Think it's off about asks rapper like, yeah, one summing

844
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: that's impressive. Now did seventy.

845
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, more a million in the first week, bro?

846
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah.

847
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: Any reflections on get Rich of Natrona It feels like

848
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: we always have this sort of look back moment with it.

849
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 3: But any of your thoughts on that the only thing

850
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 3: I've ever seen or do The top two albums that

851
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: come to mind for me were like they came out

852
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: where I was, and people like everywhere everywhere you went,

853
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: people in the car was playing every light you pulled

854
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: up to. And this was before streaming service, so people

855
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 3: had this. It was this one, it was Jesus. Those

856
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: were the two in my generation as to where everybody

857
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: was listening to us. I was in college when this

858
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 3: came out of MTSU. You would see white boys that

859
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: looked like they didn't even listen to rap. Listening to this,

860
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: white girls looked like they had no business. They didn't

861
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 3: even know what this was. Listening to this, us listening

862
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: to this, I like, I just remember this being everywhere.

863
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: Those were back in my college clubbing days too. The

864
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: only songs I've ever heard played like eight times in

865
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 3: a row was the go Shorty Ship Birthday We're gonna

866
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: put Like the DJ literally played it eight times in

867
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 3: a row, and every time people was like, yeah, play

868
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: it again. So that that's what this album did when

869
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: it came out. In my mind, M.

870
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, like you you are right, can Like we

871
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 4: have talked about this in different occasions or whatever. Just

872
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 4: the impact of this album. Man, fifty cent was scary.

873
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 4: I remember him being scary like that. That's that's my

874
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: my memory of this album. And it sounded like in

875
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 4: the music, you know, he had some softer songs in there.

876
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: It's just the way he just approached music. And I

877
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: don't know, man, he's just like like the many Men,

878
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: which definitely from me and all that they've they've recreated that.

879
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 5: With a soul version. Like it's just man, I just

880
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, that this this album was special. Man,

881
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 5: this was a time.

882
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

883
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: We had a conversation of rap rap stars. Fifty is

884
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: what a rap star looks like? You know, definitely, and

885
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: maybe there's a conversation. We don't have time to get

886
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: into it today, but to talk about like I think,

887
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna ask about our numbers replace a

888
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: cultural impact. But I think with this album, as we

889
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: move forward to our ear to the Streets had both

890
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: had a cultural impact and they had the numbers, and

891
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: that's what may get Richard I try and when it

892
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: released so significant. As we wrap up and again we

893
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: encourage everybody to send feedback. This is our our artist

894
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: spotlight Slash into the Streets segment. Anybody that's emerging that

895
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: you guys want to mention here as we get ready

896
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: to close out the show.

897
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if this guy is emerging, but I

898
00:48:53,880 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 4: recently watched a a Cos solo interview and if y'all are,

899
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: if y'all are fans of Dead and hip hop or whatever,

900
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 4: you've heard me missed this guy like several times, like

901
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: very off killed super dope lyrics, is rapper conscious rapper

902
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 4: or whatever? And the interviewer asked him, like, Yo, what

903
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 4: do you, what do you listen to? And I was

904
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: just like, what the hell does a co solo listened to?

905
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: Like like, I was just like, I was really I

906
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 4: know he listened to like, you know, Billy Woods and

907
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 4: people like that. That that is obvious, right, But I

908
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 4: was really curious to see who he listens to.

909
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 5: And he named this guy. His name is RX Poppy.

910
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 5: Y'all heard him. M hmmm, his name is r X

911
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 5: Poppy or Pappy. I think it's Pappy.

912
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: I think he he might says Pappy. It might he

913
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 4: might pronounce this is Pappy. I just discovered him whatever.

914
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 4: He's been making music since like twenty nineteen, and he

915
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 4: has a slew of tapes. But he's from New York.

916
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 4: You wouldn't know he was from New York because of

917
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 4: the way he raps, but super aggressive, super like he

918
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 4: actually has like lyrics, but he's like aggressive, just like

919
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 4: like kind of like trapper. I'm like, it was just

920
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 4: totally different from what a costolo is.

921
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 5: But I liked it though.

922
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 4: I was gonna send it to y'all one day, and

923
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 4: I just keep forgetting it to send it to y'all.

924
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 4: But the one I had, the one, the one particular

925
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 4: one I had listened to at the time. It was

926
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 4: uh I think it was one that came out in

927
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four and it's called uh. Hold on one second,

928
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 4: it's called.

929
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 5: Shit. It's called made.

930
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 4: Man, And I want to say that was the first

931
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 4: one that was on on iTunes, So that's why I

932
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,479
Speaker 4: listened to that one first.

933
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, like I was just like, Yo, this dude,

934
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 5: this dude is dope as hell. Like I like him, man.

935
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 5: I don't know if anybody listen is familiar with him,

936
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 5: but I like his sound.

937
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: His sound is super dope. I think his sound is

938
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 4: super dope. I was not expecting that to be an

939
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 4: artist that a costolo listened to.

940
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 3: It looked like they got a whole crew. It's a

941
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 3: nigga called Rix Nephew are.

942
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 5: Tuo like some asap shit right, Like yeah, man, it's

943
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 5: it's yeah. They out of New York. I think he's

944
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 5: from like Rochester or something like that. Up, Yeah, I

945
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 5: think you might like it. Yeah, yeah, you might. You

946
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 5: might like this one.

947
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 4: Like he's not oh man, just the way he sounds. Man,

948
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you all like, what's we what's we?

949
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 5: Cut this off? I'm gonna just play a snippet of

950
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 5: it for you, just so you can kind of see.

951
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: Okay for me ken You heard me say this a

952
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. I said here because I want

953
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 3: him to get all the love. I went to a

954
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: show with Step brother show last year. Just got open

955
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 3: for them from Orange Mount, Tennessee. Oh kind of looked

956
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: like it kind of looked like a ball too. Eddie

957
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: Glero named Eddie Velero. His last project is called Miss

958
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: debral Son and the one before that's called Gangster Blues.

959
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: I've been listening to this king he got rod. He

960
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: got a sample where they sampled that Casey and Joe

961
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,959
Speaker 3: Joe Life song. Oh wow, yeah, it's like a bird

962
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 3: that right there. But then it got that true. It

963
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 3: is this shit that I was looking for with Rob

964
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 3: Marciano right after the sample go off, this shit, I

965
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: made that shit my alarm. Can't I wake up to that?

966
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: Here?

967
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 3: So Eddie Vallero from Orange Mount, Tennessee. Man, that's who

968
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: I've been. That's the new person that I've been listening to.

969
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 3: Shout out to step whether they put me on start

970
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 3: leading down trip.

971
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 2: And there you have it. So it's a wrap.

972
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: Man. We appreciate you guys tuning in again. I encourage

973
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: all feedback. Let us know what you guys think, and

974
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna leave it there. Man, Catch you guys next time.

975
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: Were out, Peace piece cool