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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the France Second podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: your house for the evening. My name is Mike.

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Speaker 1: Next to me, I have Spike, what up? Damn?

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Speaker 2: Across from Spike, I have Ken and Ros punk Ass

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Speaker 2: didn't see this, so he ain't here, so we're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk about this just us three. We are talking about

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Speaker 2: black Phone two.

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Speaker 1: This is the.

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Speaker 2: Newest film from Scott Derekson, who also did Blackphone One.

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Speaker 2: Stars Mason Thames, Ethan Hagg, Madeline McGraw and yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: do a quick round the room.

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Speaker 1: First off, Spike, did you see black Phone one? Yes? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Did you like Black Phone two? No?

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Speaker 3: Damn, I don't think it was like one was fine,

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Speaker 3: even though with me not being a big horror fan,

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Speaker 3: but it doesn't enough like creepiness to it. It felt

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Speaker 3: kind of realistic. Two I didn't. I didn't like the

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Speaker 3: supernatural stuff. I didn't like the yet. You know, I've

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Speaker 3: never seen Nightmare on and Holm Street. I don't like

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Speaker 3: dream horror. So yeah, it was a lot of excessive

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Speaker 3: Like when they kept cutting to the imagery, I knew

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Speaker 3: what they were doing as far as their dreams of

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Speaker 3: trying to give us context to the Little Boys, but

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Speaker 3: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Okay, Ken, did you like this?

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Speaker 4: I questioned the need to make a sequel, damn. Re

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Speaker 4: position the movie around the sister made sense and adding

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Speaker 4: to the lore of Black Pom. I definitely really enjoyed

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Speaker 4: the first one. This one was slow at times for me.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think it was bad overall, but it really

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Speaker 4: was only really picked up towards the end. Well, we

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Speaker 4: got some pretty cool shots. I'm skating across the ice,

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Speaker 4: all right.

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Speaker 1: I liked it.

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Speaker 2: I do think it was a bit too much of

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Speaker 2: a homage to other films, like he wore his influences

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Speaker 2: on his sleeve. A bit too much for me. But

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. Man, I sat down. I had a

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Speaker 2: good time with it. I thought the story was fun.

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Speaker 2: It was very different from the first one, but I

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Speaker 2: had a good time. So I'm here for Black Foam three.

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Speaker 1: But it's gonna be three. You know it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a three. You know it's gonna be a three.

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Speaker 2: The motherfucker when they pushed him into the lake and

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Speaker 2: they made him grab his mask, I was like, why

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Speaker 2: would he do that? Because he was gonna be a three,

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Speaker 2: So so yeah, all right, Well it kicks off in

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Speaker 2: Rocky Mountain, Colorado in nineteen sixty seven. We see a

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Speaker 2: young girl named Hope Adler is on a pay phone,

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Speaker 2: but after being startled by what she's seen to be

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Speaker 2: hearing on the call, she runs off, which takes us

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Speaker 2: to North Denver in nineteen eighty two, So this is

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Speaker 2: four years later after the events of the first movie.

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Speaker 1: So, Spike, was it good to see Finny and Gwen again? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It was?

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Speaker 3: And I like they took del Marsh from the first one.

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Speaker 3: He's like the blood these more impact than he was

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Speaker 3: beating the dude. I liked seeing Finnie not be like

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Speaker 1: I like to see him being like the Finnie that

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Speaker 1: was kind of a badass. Was it good to see

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Speaker 1: them again? Kin? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know kind of what Spike said opening

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Speaker 4: with that scene in him, you know, paying tribute to

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Speaker 4: his friend Robin Robin. Yeah, yeah, it was was dope.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really look at the trailer too hard, so

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Speaker 2: I didn't even realize they brought back the same two actors,

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Speaker 2: and I thought that was good because they both looked

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Speaker 2: and it was Yeah, it was good to see Finn

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but he's definitely grown up.

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Speaker 2: We see that Finny's still disturbed by what he went

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Speaker 2: through with the grabber. We also see that Gwenn is

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Speaker 2: and she also has a dream about a boy and

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Speaker 2: a jean jacket getting murdered. So was this you're talking

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Speaker 2: about Spike that you know? It was bouncing back and

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Speaker 2: forth between the visions and stuff. Was any of this

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Speaker 1: Damn the reason?

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Speaker 3: And Jayla said that funny text about the funny movie

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Speaker 3: that scared Movies don't scare me per se. It's just

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Speaker 3: order for the new movie to work. And that's what

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Speaker 3: I don't want. I thought you got scared about something.

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Speaker 3: It was a trailer, wasn't out?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: This trailer was creepy. The ice state and the ice

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Speaker 1: that's what got you, the ice skating? Who is kid?

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Speaker 1: Was any of that stuff interesting to you? Just to

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Speaker 1: see where they're gonna go? Is it? You know? I

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Speaker 4: There was a meaning to it, that something was going

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Speaker 4: on with that, and they were kind of playing more

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I thought this shit was tight. Man.

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Speaker 2: I thought the way they did the whole visions things,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was cool. You know, it was a

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Speaker 1: I thought it was cool.

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Speaker 2: But I think the most interesting thing is that they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck them kids. I like it.

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Speaker 2: But that little boy from from does he have like that,

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Speaker 2: not like that Gary Coleman thing or something.

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Speaker 1: Because he's not a kid. Yeah, but the kids, I said,

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Speaker 1: he looked familiar. I was like, what do I know that.

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Speaker 2: Look from You've seen from right, the main little kid,

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Speaker 2: he was the good kid. No, no, no, no, that

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Speaker 2: remember how he got murdered, but he yeah, he was

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Speaker 2: From season one of.

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Speaker 1: From He has not grown. It's like he must have

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Speaker 1: that Gary Coleman because I don't understand. But yeah, he

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Speaker 2: Where the grabber had Finny and we see that she's

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Speaker 1: Helwich traces back to the phone call at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: You didn't like this, by no, you didn't. Never forget

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Speaker 1: what the kid's last name is? What kid? That little

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Speaker 1: boyfriend from Colemans see, I'm on the something man. His

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Speaker 1: name is Simon. I'm on something. The mother fucking age,

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Speaker 1: Something's wrong. I thought this was dope.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're early into the movie, her talking to

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Speaker 4: and you know they didn't really drag out the beginning

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot.

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Speaker 4: They were like really saying, oh, yeah, she's talking to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, liked how they called back to it and you

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Speaker 3: found out who it was. I did like kind of

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Speaker 1: Who the hell is she talking to? Yeah? That was

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Speaker 1: that was good. Uh, it was some good storytelling in this.

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Speaker 2: So on some points, Yeah, yeah, I thought all this

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Speaker 2: Because again I didn't watch the whole trailer, so I

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Speaker 2: wasn't even sure if this was actually the Grabber.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if the Grabber has turned into a

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Speaker 2: But uh, but yeah, determined to figure out what happened,

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Speaker 2: Gwen convince his finish and her Nesto, who was the

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Speaker 2: convinced them to go to Alpine Lake Christian Camp, which

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Speaker 2: So they go there in a blizzard, which I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go ahead and say it. I was like, this should

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Speaker 2: makes no sense, y'all can't go tomorrow. They said, I'm

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Speaker 1: That was kind of smart. They couldn't see it made sense,

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Speaker 2: This was a bit dumb because it was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: and drive in a blizzard. Now, man, I mean, granted,

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Speaker 2: they didn't have fucking internet back then to look up blizzards,

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Speaker 2: but you had to know that blizzard was coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because everybody else, everybody else didn't. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: we called, y'all, we didn't get the call. What what?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, this was kind of this was kind of

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Speaker 2: stupid writing. They could have figured out a better way

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Speaker 2: so they go there and they meet Armando, his niece,

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Speaker 2: Mustang Barb and her husband Ken, and once their Finny

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Speaker 2: starts getting phone calls from the grabber and Gwen has

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Speaker 2: another dream of a murdered kid. So what do you

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Speaker 3: And then she went to go sleep with the boys,

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Speaker 3: her sleep there alone. I feel like she could have

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Speaker 1: I thought Mustang said something about, yeah, but you can't

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Speaker 3: And they didn't know it was they had been saying

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Speaker 3: where she had been happening there for years. We just

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Speaker 3: was petty as hell. Yeah, so I thought that was petty.

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Speaker 3: But the dream scene, it was crazy. I figured it

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Speaker 3: you know, went to go investigate it.

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Speaker 1: She would, so it worked. It was dope.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you you know that something gonna pop up, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, you just don't know when, so you're sitting

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Speaker 1: But yeah, because when she.

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Speaker 3: Was like, don't you look at some of that bad and.

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Speaker 1: Then that she was screaming her ass off.

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Speaker 2: That little fucking from from is under the day of

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Speaker 2: and he's really fucking thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 1: He only got killed because he looked like a child.

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Speaker 2: Then that part was creepy to me, that whole and

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Speaker 2: especially when the kid was looking in the window and

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Speaker 2: the grabber broke the glass.

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Speaker 1: Or whatever, and then the glass and sliced his face off.

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, this is tight, and I think

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Speaker 1: you put that motherfucker back on. Actually, is he gonna

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Speaker 1: see where you're going? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the whole Hell's not Hell's not flames Phinneott's ice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they did not budget or move I just think though,

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Speaker 1: I have a theory about why he didn't kill her immediately.

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Speaker 2: She got always been a sanctimony as twat she was good,

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Speaker 3: I was surprised when Fan ran in. Fann didn't even

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Speaker 1: He's but he ran in and was surprised because she

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Speaker 2: He didn't understand what the fun was going on. All

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Speaker 2: sure he paused for a second. Then he's like, all right,

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Speaker 1: Right? He didn't he he didn't go over there until

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Speaker 2: They were trying to pull her in the damn. I mean,

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Speaker 2: She looks up and the grabber coming at you with

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Speaker 1: I thought it was really, really, really dope.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember the girl's name, Mary or something. She

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Speaker 2: we can't see he's doing it. It's like, yeah, Freddy

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Speaker 2: still okay, I have I don't know he threw them

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Speaker 2: all at the same time I was he threw.

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Speaker 1: The pots and ship, Yeah you got that. So yeah.

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Speaker 2: So after afterwards they gather in the chapel and they

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Speaker 2: like Camp Camp Alpine Lake and it's like bro Camp

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Speaker 2: Crystal Lake. It's like, come on, man, like y'all, y'all

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Speaker 3: That's why I feel like they forced this one this movie,

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Speaker 2: Gwen's visions, which another side note that second boy that

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Speaker 2: But they discovered that they have to find the bodies

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Speaker 2: It's another part I didn't love, and the grabbers drawing

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Speaker 3: I'm glad they had that moment where they talked through

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Speaker 1: But I didn't think it was cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: But the question I have though, is why did he

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Speaker 4: When he was talking to Armando, when, oh, when Armando

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Speaker 4: the glass from Armando and he fell underwater. But that

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Speaker 4: was after this, okay, because then we threw the snowman

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Speaker 1: Oh at the wall.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that was the scene right after this part. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got a question about that.

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Speaker 4: But but no, I think I think, yeah, I thought

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Speaker 4: this was fine. Yeah, you know, it's just like, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: My thing is, I just didn't love this because how

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Speaker 1: How did she know that? Like, how did she know?

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's drawing power from the kids, and we have

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Speaker 2: to go find the bodies and once we free the bodies.

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Speaker 1: I know the mom said, yeah, but how did she

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Speaker 1: know all that? Then Mustang say it? Though I don't

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Speaker 1: think Mustang's find said that. I think she was fine

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, do we supposed that, like I s heard

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Speaker 2: I need something better than that, because they, like, there

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Speaker 2: anything with it. Like the cards that Ernesto brought. We

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Speaker 1: She was reading these spirituality books.

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Speaker 2: It would have been cooler if she had just read

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Speaker 1: This was?

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Speaker 4: This was first of all, why did you even take

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Speaker 1: You're the fucking creeper? Now what you was respect was

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Speaker 4: She's now angry about the grabber as well. But I

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Speaker 1: Wait what now? Who was in whose garage?

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Speaker 3: Them hanging from the garage and the dad walked in.

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Speaker 3: He was like, why would you do this to yourself?

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Speaker 1: Right? That that part made sense to me. She's snuggy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well, they didn't have those electric grass so it wasn't

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Speaker 1: Right, you pull it up. I think you just pull

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Speaker 1: it up still, hear, Yeah, maybe daddy was. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking too much into it that like what's his

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Speaker 4: But but you know, I was oneder if this was

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Speaker 1: It did tie it up.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was horrific too, like seeing your mom

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Speaker 1: hanging out, I know that.

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Speaker 2: Was yeah, geez Luise, Yeah, yeah, I thought I thought

439
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 2: this was a cool scene.

440
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: I was fine with it.

441
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 2: Uh but you know, while she was in the dream

442
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: the grabber, the grabber cuts Gwen's arm with an axe

443
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: which comes through reality, which was some.

444
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: More not Mare on Elm Street type ship, which yeah, yeah,

445
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,959
Speaker 1: that was, yeah, it was.

446
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 4: But I think the boyfriend or that though he wasn't

447
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 4: really good at uh at like watching everything that was

448
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 4: going on.

449
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 3: What was he there for? That was another one, like

450
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 3: nowhere he was just the person to cold.

451
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: He was a person of color, and they probably wanted

452
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: to bring up the fact that he was Robin's brother.

453
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why he was there. That gave him

454
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 1: a reason would be there.

455
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh the dude from one Yeah, then the first

456
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 3: one they only had the test really yeah.

457
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: But of course ye but yeah.

458
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: So they find the kids under the ice, but the

459
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: grabber attempts to stop them by drowning Romndo and trying

460
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: to kill Gwen. But Gwenn discovers that she can regain

461
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 2: power in the dream and she fights back. So before

462
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: that the grabber was sucking her up. He had chopped

463
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: her arm up already, he was choking her. He spun

464
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: her ass like a fucking dradle.

465
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: Bro.

466
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: He spun her ass around. Bro was yeah, like, and

467
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 4: they can they can wake up. When she was the

468
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 4: part when she threw the water on it, she still

469
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 4: didn't wake up like that, Yeah, insane, But but then

470
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 4: she turned into dark Phoenix. I realize you're not what yeah,

471
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 4: I'm in here with you, or you're you're not you're

472
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: not in here with me?

473
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: What I forgot It was a movie that did that.

474
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: You're you're thinking to watch him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

475
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: yeah almost that sort of thing. I'm not stuck in

476
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: here with you you're watching still a colde movie. Yeah,

477
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: but uh but you know, salute to her for realizing that,

478
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: because she was she was struggling, but yeah, she was

479
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: getting sucked at this one. I was like, oh, she

480
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: turned in the gene gray.

481
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 4: I was wondering, like, how is she gonna utilize that

482
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 4: power moving forward? Is what I was interested in seeing?

483
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: Or was this just gonna be how she absolutely defeats

484
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 4: you know?

485
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: So they basically turned out I can do anything in

486
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 3: my dreams with her diving in ice water and holding

487
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: no breath forever.

488
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: This was also taken from Nightmare on Elm Street. It

489
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 2: was like part either four or five. One of the

490
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 2: girls in the dream realizes she has the power to

491
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 2: fight back because it because it's her dream. And I

492
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, I'm still enjoying this movie. This

493
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: is still fun, but I'm like, y'all are taking a

494
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: lot of shit from Nightmare on Elm Street and it's

495
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 2: starting to get a little irritating.

496
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: But uh, but yeah, I still thought the scene was cool.

497
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, I thought the ice the ice scene

498
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: was cool. Oh yeah, that's what we're getting to.

499
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 2: So the dad borrows a snowplow wants to take him home,

500
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 2: but this leads to Quinn confronting their dad and Finny

501
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 2: about them using being alcohol tonumb the pain.

502
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: Did y'all care about any of this? And it was

503
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: a good speech. It was It was a turn for

504
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: the dad but once.

505
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 4: And seeing him actually care about the kids now, yeah,

506
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: and maybe it gave him some closure to about the mom.

507
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: Made his character a lot better. He was useless than

508
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: the first.

509
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think they cleaned him up pretty well

510
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: in this movie, because you know, when I watched it

511
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 2: the first time, I was like, when when Finn was

512
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: leaving and he's like, do me a favorite dad, don't

513
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: get drunk? And then the dad was like, i'n't about

514
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: to get my three year whatever token, and then he

515
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: started looking around and then he ended up calling the

516
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: guy with the snowplow, and I was like, why did

517
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: y'all even include any of that? But when you think

518
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: about it later, I think what they were implying is

519
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 2: that the dad was scared to stay home by himself

520
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 2: because he might drink because he was there was like

521
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: a some kind of beer commercial on TV, and that's

522
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: when he asked to borrow the snowplow and I was like,

523
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 2: that doesn't make any sense. But when I was actually

524
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: doing the notes, I was like, Oh, he did that

525
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: because he can't stay by himself.

526
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 3: Because even you know that, you say that he made

527
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: that joke but not really a joke like finally to

528
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: get Yeah, yep, but he was nervous as hell when

529
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: he said that, he.

530
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: Was absolutely nervous.

531
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 2: He did not want Finn to go off because he

532
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: would have to be by himself and he might end

533
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: up drinking.

534
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: So I actually really liked this whole.

535
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: Scene, especially because when Quinn started going off on them,

536
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: Dad was like, where is this cut? Such a white

537
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: He's like, why are you yelling at me like this?

538
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: What did I do? But Nah, this scene was good.

539
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: I just don't think that Gwen's a very strong actor,

540
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: so I didn't it was it was hard for me

541
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: to take it seriously.

542
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because her crying yeah help me didn't worry. Yo, Yeah,

543
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: she didn't worry. She didn't kill that.

544
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: She did not need they needed to have hers like

545
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: in some coaching or something.

546
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: Is Yeah, it wasn't great. So yes, they all go

547
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: back to the lake the next day to finish this off.

548
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: Gwen into falling asleep again, and the grabber shows up

549
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: and he sucks up Kenn and Barb and then he

550
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: starts to choke Finny. So did you like that part

551
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: by how they kind of referenced the first movie with

552
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: the whole choking thing.

553
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: I did. And then she fell asleep. She got an

554
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: arka lips, I don't know what. I don't know. He

555
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: was talking and it just fell just nodded out. He

556
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: could not wake her ass up. That was hilarious.

557
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 3: But I like the o Mas the first one with

558
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: the choking thing. The whole ice thing was probably the

559
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: best part of the movie, is you said earlier like

560
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: the action and that was good.

561
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when the mother was skating, that's that was

562
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: That was was fun. Ice. We dragged the fuck out

563
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: of Ken on that ice with Ax in his side. Yes,

564
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: I was like, god, man, he was just bruh. He

565
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: was doing them dirty and they ain't got bar.

566
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 4: Grass and they ain't even want to go and Mustang

567
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 4: call their ass out. So I thought all of this,

568
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 4: for the most part, was good. There's one thing I

569
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, I don't know about that, but uh,

570
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: but yeah, just seeing him run around terrorizing people they

571
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 4: can't see him, and then all they can see is

572
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: just the ice things and and the traces and the

573
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: ice man.

574
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was that was That was dope A man.

575
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: I enjoyed this whole thing, but I can't front When

576
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 2: he showed up on ice skates, I was like, what

577
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: is this?

578
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: Like, Oh man, you're talking about wild Bill. He was

579
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: a great best skater skater. What why are y'all doing this?

580
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: He fucking he.

581
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: Bro When he did that fucking jump up the horse

582
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: thing and grabbed Finn by the neck, I.

583
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: Was like, all right, this is this is weird.

584
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how serious I can take a killer

585
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: on skates on ice skates.

586
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: Ship this motherfu can. Yeah, he was sucking him up.

587
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: He was fucking him up. So, yes, we're nearing the end.

588
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: With the help of the Dead Boys, the grabber is

589
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: subdued by Gwen I'm sorry, with the help of the

590
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: Dead Boys, the grabber subdude, so Gwenn can hit him

591
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: in the head with an axe and then Finny can

592
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: bash his face in. Was this a satisfying ass whippe

593
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: for this motherfucker?

594
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? He needed all of it even more problem.

595
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: M it wasn't satisfying for you.

596
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: You're punching something you can't see. That is what I wanted.

597
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: He can't see him.

598
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: He skated up, and remember the little dead boys came

599
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: out of the ice and grabbed him. So Finny could

600
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: see the dead boys skeleton. He could see the hand moving,

601
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: so he I guess he figured out that the hands

602
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: were holding the grabber.

603
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: So when he comes over, you see him.

604
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: He grabs the leg and then he's feeling around so

605
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: he finds the head.

606
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: I have too much of a problem with it.

607
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it was like, well, how

608
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: do you know what body part is being held by

609
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: the dead skeleton?

610
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: It was just kind of weird. It was a weird scene.

611
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even the skeletons getting them, the dad jumping

612
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 4: into the water to get the barrels her somehow in

613
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: her astral.

614
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: Form, pushing barrels up. Yeah you know, I have to

615
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: let Yeah.

616
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: Yes, this part got a bit ridiculous because at first

617
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, Okay, I get why

618
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: he's able to hurt Gwen.

619
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Why is he able to hurt everybody else?

620
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: But I think what they're implying is that Gwen is

621
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: kind of like a conduit because she's so powerful with

622
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: whatever this psychic ability is that only when she's around

623
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: can he do that, because he wasn't able to hurt

624
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: anybody else when she wasn't around, like when he was

625
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: fucking with Finny, when Finny was on the phone, he.

626
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: Couldn't do it. So going back to a question, chialen,

627
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: take that take that out. You can't. You can't leave

628
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 1: a call. You please take that ice choke? All right,

629
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: go ahead.

630
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: We talked about the movie. But god damn, but why

631
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 4: did he keep saying my name's not Bill. Is that

632
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: because he fully bought into the grabber?

633
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: No, it's because Remember this was another stupid thing that

634
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: I just glossed over. Remember Armando said that they don't

635
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: know people's names because they give him a camp name.

636
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: So when when they were asking do you know Hope Adler,

637
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: Armando was like, I don't know who that is. But

638
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: when they showed the picture, he was like, oh.

639
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: That's Starlight Okay.

640
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: So then when they were talking about wild Bill, that's

641
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: not his actual name. His name is whatever the fuck.

642
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 2: I don't even know if we got his name from

643
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: the first I don't think they did either.

644
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: Brother's name.

645
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the brother's name was Max, but yeah, that his

646
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: name is not Bill.

647
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: So that's why you saying that. I wonder if they

648
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: could use that for something else. I don't know why

649
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: they even did all this was like convoluted for no reason.

650
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I did like when he threw that

651
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: snowman on the window. That ship looked did look creepy?

652
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're saying you wanted to ask about that? That

653
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: was it. It was about why he kept saying his

654
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: name wasn't Bill.

655
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I understand why he was saying that.

656
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, So afterwards, he's after they beat his ass

657
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: and they throw him in the water. He's dragged to

658
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: the bottom of the lake. Was this a fitting end?

659
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: Were y'all cool with this part? Did it remind you

660
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: of anything else?

661
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: Jason? I was like, bro, come on, man, y'all not

662
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: even trying. The first one was so fucking original.

663
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: This ship, I'm just like, bro, y'all just took Nightmare

664
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: on Elm Street mixed with Friday the thirteenth in combining both,

665
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: It's like, if you don't go get.

666
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: Her thought because I don't watch me scary move.

667
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: But Jason is one of the franchises that I have

668
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: following is the first thing I thought going to the

669
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: Bottom of the Lake with Jason.

670
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: I came if it was a fourth one of the

671
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: fifth one where they and it's like, dude, this is

672
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: so obvious.

673
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that and again, the first one was good.

674
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: This one, I feel like was just like a money

675
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: grab us.

676
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

677
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: I do agree with that because I don't know if

678
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 4: they knew the first one would go on to become

679
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 4: as like popular as it did, and I think they

680
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 4: it felt like they almost regret killing him. Yeah, so

681
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, well we just we still got the

682
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: sister and we'll just made the movie about the sister

683
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 4: and bring it back in. You know, this a supernatural form.

684
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: We could do it like that because we already know.

685
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: That she has supernatural powers.

686
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: So it's they could easily do it, and they found

687
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: a way to do it, and you know it, Mays say.

688
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 4: It's just there was a lot, a lot of like

689
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: build up that was going on in regards to the ending.

690
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: I mean, it worked, you know, it worked. I think

691
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: when I was watching it, I was trying to decide, Okay,

692
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: how does he come back since the kids rescue? Because

693
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: that said, that's how that's where it gets powered from.

694
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: So if they got the bodies of the kids, then

695
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 4: theoretically he should be done.

696
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: That should be a part three. I'm gonna find out

697
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: he killed more people there you go. That's why I think, and.

698
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 4: That's where I think my name's not Bill could probably

699
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: come back into play.

700
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then they find his other identity from somewhere.

701
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 2: Else, Yeah, because this is where he started. This is

702
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: where he started, right, But then he have to consider

703
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: it. It has to be at least fifteen years later. So

704
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: between those fifteen years, I'm sure he's killed a lot

705
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: of kids. So that I think what they're gonna do

706
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: with three is they're going to realize, oh shit, this

707
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: isn't it.

708
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: He was killing other kids. So he's now able to.

709
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: Come back because of those other kids, which again is

710
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: some fucking Freddy shit. Because Freddy can only come back

711
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: when you remember him or if you what was it?

712
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: What was the whole thing?

713
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: He can come back if you isn't it isn't it

714
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: if you remember him, or if you I forgot what

715
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: the whole thing is? But he can he can come

716
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: back because he's like attacking the children of the parents

717
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: that killed him.

718
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: So it's like y'all are not being very original at all.

719
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: I feel like the first one was so such a

720
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: fresh idea and then this one is just a fucking

721
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: gumbo of a whole bunch of other horror movies. But again,

722
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: I still liked it. It was still a fun watch.

723
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: But the final scene is Gwyn getting a call from

724
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: their mom, Hope, and this is her final combo with

725
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: them that I was about to say, did you did

726
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: you cry?

727
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: Spike? I didn't cry, but it was sweet.

728
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: It was a satisfying ending in her, like telling her

729
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: it's not a courage, it's a gift.

730
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: The kids are up here with me. It was really good.

731
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: Tell Finny I love them, and tell them that.

732
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 4: Robin says, Hi, Yeah, I think if it wasn't satisfying,

733
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 4: it was. It was sweet, as Spike say, touching to

734
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 4: see that. I think if they don't do a three, uh,

735
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 4: it's a good way in the series, you know, just

736
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: you know, you got fan story and now you got

737
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: the sisters story and we're done. So I think they

738
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 4: can check out and and that would be that. But

739
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: of course, you know, people are what I'm seeing, are

740
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 4: enjoying it. You know, a lot I don't know if

741
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 4: there's people that just got caught on the black phone,

742
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 4: you know, after there was a lot of you know,

743
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 4: maybe word of them off that took place. But either

744
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 4: way go, depending on how successful it is, I can

745
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 4: see them doing another one. Yeah, my question I had though,

746
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: So Finn has powers too, Yes, okay, because.

747
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Finn always had powers, even the first one.

748
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: Right, because he was the only one that could tell Yeah,

749
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: he was talking to the kids and he can he

750
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 4: communicate with the dead through a phone and she can

751
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: just go to gen people dreaming and the dream dreamscape. Okay,

752
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: and the first one, they said that the Grabber could

753
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: hear it too, they never really explained that.

754
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: I don't think they said the grabber could hear it

755
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: because remember that when the Grabber was down there.

756
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: He said the phone doesn't work. But right, so he

757
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: did say.

758
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: He could hear you, right, because he said that it's

759
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: like electrical vibrations causing the phone to ring or something.

760
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he just yeah, So they never explained it

761
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 4: in this one or the first one. So I don't

762
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: know what that means. If the Grabber got power, which

763
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: is why he was able to come back in this

764
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 4: supernatural state to haunt them.

765
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: It could be because the mother was the was because

766
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: the mother had power and the grabber killed the mom.

767
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 1: This is me fucking spitballing because they didn't explain shit. Yeah,

768
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: maybe that's why he could hear the phone. I don't know.

769
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: And he never really did anything with the phone.

770
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 4: They just said it, so it's like we never saw

771
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: him or anything like that.

772
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

773
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 4: I just I didn't know if they overtime maybe explained

774
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: it or not. But either way, so Finn does have

775
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 4: the power his phone.

776
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: Finn can hear the dead calling because they were calling

777
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: him throughout the movie, which they showed at the beginning

778
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: when he picked up the phone and the phone but

779
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, I can't.

780
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: Help you, and he hangs it up and it says

781
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: out of order. Damn.

782
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 4: So the dead has been calling him this whole time.

783
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: He just we're refusing that.

784
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: That's why I think there's gonna be a three, because

785
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: I think, why are the dead calling Finn. It's gonna

786
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: be somebody else that was killed by the grabber that's

787
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: calling Finn and asking for some kind of help.

788
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that was just PTSD and he was

789
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 4: just hearing in his head until he got out there

790
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 4: and he could hear it as well.

791
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: And then in the first week. Okay, okay, that that

792
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: makes sense.

793
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 2: I mean I could be wrong, but I always took

794
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: it as Finn had powers, because otherwise there'd be no

795
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: reason why he could hear anybody calling on the phone.

796
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that makes sense.

797
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 4: And even even when last like when he was talking

798
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: to the dad and you know, the sister was kind

799
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 4: of getting on him and he was trying to get

800
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: out of there, he was like, man, you don't know

801
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 4: how scary it was down there.

802
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: I was terrified.

803
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I remember when Finn was when he broke

804
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: down and cried in the first one, bro he thought

805
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: he made it.

806
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: He just started crying, and then that's when this boy called.

807
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: But anyway, so I think him being able to hear

808
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 4: the phone her having her power. Yeah, they could easily

809
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 4: make a third one and maybe give us some more

810
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: explanation into what the Grabber can do in this new state,

811
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 4: because I mean, as a supernatural figure, you can come

812
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: and go as you please.

813
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: You know, you can make as many as you want.

814
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: Fact Freddy.

815
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, anyway, if they do do a third one,

816
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: I just hope that they spend a little bit more

817
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: time on the script and they don't make it so

818
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: much of a copycat film. That would be appreciative, because

819
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: you can't go from something super original to something completely derivative.

820
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: But I still think Scott Derekson is a good director,

821
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: a good filmmaker. This was still a fun watch for me.

822
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: It was just not original enough for me to say

823
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 2: it's a good movie.

824
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: It was shot will It was shot very well.

825
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: I think I think that the way that they made

826
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: it look like it was from the seventies, I think

827
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: it was really good.

828
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: It made sense, the dream switching like that had looked

829
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: like old Randy footage.

830
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: And it was good too, which he did the exact

831
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: same thing in Sinister Scott Derekson, who was also he

832
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: also made that movie.

833
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: That's okay.

834
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Spike Lee makes Motherfuckers float every film, right,

835
00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: so it's no big deal.

836
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: But all right, final.

837
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: Thoughts either one of y'all here for a three No

838
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: damn sight God.

839
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 4: I am because I think he may be open to

840
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 4: some of the things that people are saying about it

841
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: and probably try to do something to get back to

842
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 4: this original bag and try to do something a little

843
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 4: bit more original. Maybe this is just Look, I love

844
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: these films. That's why I got into the business. I

845
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: just wanted to do this because of that. And I'll

846
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 4: get back to what I do. Yeah, so I'll give

847
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: you one more shot.

848
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Sinister was very original, and I forgot the

849
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: other horror movie he did.

850
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: He did Sinister, Black Phone. There was something in between

851
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: those two, but I can't remember now. But either way,

852
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: I'm here for a three man. I'm can. I think

853
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: if he comes back and he does a more original

854
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: film for the third one, I think all is all

855
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: is forgiven. So and I want to see the dad

856
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 2: incorporated more. I want to see him be a real

857
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: part to this.

858
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: So the other thought I had there were no real stakes.

859
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: Nobody died.

860
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: Oh I'm glad that was in my notes, but I

861
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: forgot to say it. That is my biggest critique of

862
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: this entire film. Damn, you had opportunity. Why didn't you

863
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 2: kill Barby or or or must Oh? Wow, I didn't

864
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: even think about that. Yes, their names were Barb and Ken.

865
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: God damn racist as great performance, a great perform that

866
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: was the worthy be worthy.

867
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know why he wasn't able to

868
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: kill anybody. But that was my thought of why he

869
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: didn't go ahead and kill Gwyn immediately. I think he

870
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: realized that he can hurt people through Gwen, like Gwen.

871
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: Has to be there.

872
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: Oh okay, because when when they were in that kitchen

873
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: or whatever the fuck. I think that's why he was

874
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: able to throw all of those utensils at barbin Ken

875
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: because Quinn was there.

876
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: But prior to that, he couldn't do anything to find Yeah.

877
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe the other people weren't the real targets,

878
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 4: so he just kind of let him be.

879
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Speaker 1: But maybe, yeah, but he should have. He should have.

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Speaker 1: He fucking chopped them in the head with the acts.

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Speaker 4: I thought they were dead, but no, no, and he

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00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: could have uh And I thought he killed Armando with

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Speaker 4: the ice. He tried to kill him, but Armando were

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Speaker 4: saved him. Yeah, a little bit, but somebody could have died.

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Speaker 2: Somebody could have died. It didn't really make a lot

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Speaker 2: of sense, but that's all I mean.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That was a big complaint for me too, So I'm

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Speaker 2: glad you brought that back up, But overall, I'm still

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Speaker 2: cool with the movie with it. So all right, Well, y'all,

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Speaker 2: let us know what y'all think about this in the

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Speaker 2: comments section. We will be checking for those and let

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00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: us know if there's any other movies that are coming

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Speaker 2: out that you definitely want to hear our opinion on.

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Speaker 1: So we will see y'all next time we out feasible