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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Well, hey there, everybody, happy fry d one and all.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Langer. I'm in for Tony Katz today on

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. Oh man, So glad I can join

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Speaker 2: you and you can join me. On this Friday, we

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Speaker 2: got a jam Pack show, Kingsai Show. We're going to

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Speaker 2: be joined in a little bit by Paul Teller. He's

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Speaker 2: a long time have actually worked for a Vice President

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Speaker 2: Pence for a long time, both at the White House

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Speaker 2: and for his think tank Advancing American Freedom. Are going

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Speaker 2: to get the latest from him on what's going on

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Speaker 2: in DC with this shutdown that's happening. We got Terry Wilcox,

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Speaker 2: who's the co founder and chief mission officer of Patients Rising.

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Speaker 2: She's going to join in the third hour. Was hoping

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Speaker 2: we were going to get Mike Eruzionikaruzioni, the captain of

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Speaker 2: the USA nineteen eighty Olympic team, if we get in

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Speaker 2: there from him, Well, we're going to try to get

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Speaker 2: him on, but he's he's busy. There's this new Netflix

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Speaker 2: documentary out today on the nineteen eighty The miracle on

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Speaker 2: ice team. So I got some audio from from that

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Speaker 2: I want to circle back on. So, by the way,

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Speaker 2: got a new email for me on the radio as

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Speaker 2: I promised, as I said I was going to do.

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Speaker 2: Didn't do it for Wednesday show. Did it for the

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Speaker 2: show that I did yesterday. Andrew Langer Radio gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: If you want to reach me while I'm on the air,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Langer Radio gmail dot com is the best way

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Speaker 2: to do it. L A N G E R all

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Speaker 2: You can also at me on Twitter at Andrew underscore Langer.

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Speaker 2: I keep tabs of those things while I am on

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Speaker 2: the air. So on Wednesday, I played a clip of

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Speaker 2: Josh Shapiro, the Governor of Pennsylvania, and he was talking

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Speaker 2: talking about the Biden administration promising to do xit doing

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Speaker 2: none of it. And I made a comparison to monipot

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Speaker 2: that here's the original clip. Let's go ahead to end

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Speaker 2: and play cut number one.

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Speaker 3: The Biden Harrison administration didn't provide those specific tangible things

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Speaker 3: that people could see or feel. I'll give you a

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Speaker 3: very specific concrete example. One of the biggest things holding

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Speaker 3: back our rural communities is a lack of high speed

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Speaker 3: affordable internet. Some people call that broadband. I've got two

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Speaker 3: I was incredibly proud of President Biden when they got

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Speaker 3: that infrastructure Bill passed to provide the billions of dollars

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Speaker 3: that were needed to plug everybody and connect everybody in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: And do you know how many people scott this many

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Speaker 3: years later have been connected to high speed affordable internet

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Speaker 3: thanks to President Biden law in Pennsylvania. Zero because the

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Speaker 3: dollars we can end it there, so zero zero.

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Speaker 2: And I was reminded of this Monty Python bit from

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Speaker 2: the season two of Monty Python. I'll let's go ahead

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Speaker 2: and land them play cut number two.

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Speaker 4: In your plan a Better Britain for Us, you claim

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Speaker 4: that you would build eighty eight thousand million billion houses

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Speaker 4: a year in the Greater.

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Speaker 2: London area alone. In fact, you built only three in

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Speaker 2: the last fifteen Yeah. I'm a bit disappointed with this result.

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Speaker 5: No, No, I'd like to answer this question if I may,

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Speaker 5: in two ways. Firstly in my normal voice and then

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Speaker 2: I need to use that at some point I want

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Speaker 2: I need to answer. I want to answer this in

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Speaker 2: two ways, first in my normal voice and second in

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Speaker 2: a kind of silly, high pitched wine. The interesting thing, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is this is exactly what happened. So many promises

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Speaker 2: that weren't kept. But by the way, Josh Shapiro, you

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Speaker 2: know something lean to do me favorite play that cut again.

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Speaker 2: I know you've heard a bunch, but play because I

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Speaker 2: said something that I didn't comment on on Wednesday, and

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Speaker 2: I want to comment on now. Go ahead and play

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Speaker 3: The Biden Harrison administration didn't provide those specific tangible things

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Speaker 2: Give you stop it. Stop it. That's not why they lost.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that may be one reason why they lost,

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Speaker 2: for the presidency. By the way, Oh my god. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good thing, especially given some of

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Speaker 2: been hearing about civil wars this week. But you know,

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Speaker 2: it is literally like Michael Dukakis versus George H. W.

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Speaker 2: Right when you put Hillary Clinton next to Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, the contrast could not have been more stark.

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Speaker 2: You know, in twenty twenty four, it was, you know,

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Speaker 2: is that is that Don Lemon. Don Lemon was arrested

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Speaker 2: know what we're talking about here, here is Don Lemon,

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Speaker 2: When you start doing all of that, people get upset

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Speaker 6: this is part of an ongoing pressure campaign against protests,

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Speaker 2: So full stop, full stop. The meme this morning, the

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Speaker 2: Beginning of what's going to happen here. When you violate

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Speaker 2: not reporting. That is not journalism, that is advocacy. Let

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Speaker 2: I don't claim to be a journalist doing journalist things.

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Speaker 2: I do analysis and advocacy. That's a big difference. Now

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Speaker 2: find a more staunch defender of the First Amendment of

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Speaker 2: And by that what I mean is activity that harms

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Speaker 2: That's not what your right to free speech and compases.

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Speaker 2: So in this instance, the folks going to church on

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Speaker 2: This is why, by the way, I have such a

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Speaker 4: Nobody asked for this, Nobody put them up to it.

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Speaker 2: So the person who wants to be Speaker of the House,

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Speaker 2: here is their rhetoric. Let's play cut number seven. But

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Speaker 2: I think the reality has sunk in this week.

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Speaker 5: If you thought you could pass this by and you

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Speaker 5: thought there was nothing there, I mean, is this a

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Speaker 5: Fort Sumter.

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Speaker 2: This is a small bunch of wanna be Nazis. If

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Speaker 2: we have to hunt you.

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Speaker 12: Down the way they hunted down Nazis for decades, we

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Speaker 2: We are dead serious. She needs to be put on

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Speaker 2: ice permanently. You know, it doesn't. It doesn't get much

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Speaker 2: more stark than this. And the clip got a little

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Speaker 2: bit clipped off there at the beginning. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: why that was, but essentially, essentially what Tim Waltz said

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Speaker 2: was this is this, this week, this activity, the pretty

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Speaker 2: shooting was there was Fort Sumter. We all know what happened.

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Speaker 2: We had four years of a bloody conflict in America.

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Speaker 2: That's what Tim Waltz is saying is happening. That's what's

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Speaker 2: Oh God, I got ask this question on the area yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I gave it a good answer. Whether

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Speaker 2: or not we're in a cold civil war, we are

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Speaker 2: certainly more divided by the way. You know. You might

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Speaker 2: recall that there were foreign powers watching the American Civil

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Speaker 2: War and salivating over what it might mean in terms

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Speaker 2: of their ability to reconquer American territories. Harry Turtledove, when

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Speaker 2: he wrote his Various Alternative Histories, talks about this about

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Speaker 2: protracted war and a divided America and the British sort

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Speaker 2: of reinvading and creating a two front war. I mean again,

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Speaker 2: that's historical alternative fiction. You know. The Philadelphia DA was

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Speaker 2: asked about this on CNN this morning. Let's play cut

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Speaker 2: number eight.

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Speaker 13: Can we just start at first on your comments when

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Speaker 13: you said you're going to hunt down these federal agents,

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Speaker 13: I mean, under.

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Speaker 2: Had a lot of questions about that.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you that KKK was very upset. They

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Speaker 5: sent me communications. So did a bunch of other white supremacists. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's criticism coming from them. I had one explaining that

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Speaker 5: I should die in a gas chamber, just like in

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Speaker 5: the good old days of nineteen thirty nine. There are

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Speaker 5: some people who are all in on a fascist takeover

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Speaker 5: this country who do not like the comparison to what

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Speaker 5: happened in Nazi Germany. But the point I was making

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Speaker 5: is actually very straightforward. When you kill people, we can.

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Speaker 2: Time out timeout. By the way, you want to talk

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Speaker 2: about conflation and mental gymnastics, the Nazis. Listen, this is

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Speaker 2: not to say that there are not Nazis in America.

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Speaker 2: There are Nazis in America, There are Nazis in Germany. Still,

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Speaker 2: there are Nazis in all kinds of places. You know

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Speaker 2: that that happens. These are horrible people, horrible people. But

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Speaker 2: by the way, the Nazi are itching for the conflict

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Speaker 2: that you're talking about, Larry Krasner, Right, But that's you

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Speaker 2: are conflating now people raising a legitimate criticism of your rhetoric.

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Speaker 2: The Nazis are spoiling for a fight, without a doubt,

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Speaker 2: But that's that's not where the criticism is coming from.

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Speaker 2: People who have a legitimate beef with what you're saying

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Speaker 2: and the amping up of rhetoric. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: when you lump all of your political opponents in with

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Speaker 2: the folks who criticize everybody, whether you're a Republican or

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Speaker 2: a Democrat, whether you are a Jew or a Christian,

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Speaker 2: whether you are white or black. Right, when you when

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Speaker 2: you lump that in with folks who have a political

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Speaker 2: beef with you, it undercuts your argument totally and entirely,

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Speaker 2: by the way, about this civil war rhetoric. Before we

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Speaker 2: go to the break, Let's hear, let's hear Scott Jennings,

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Speaker 2: always the voice of reason. On CNN he raised this

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Speaker 2: issue of Tim Waltz in Fort Sumter. Let's play that.

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Speaker 2: Number twelve.

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Speaker 14: He said today that he thought maybe this was like

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Speaker 14: the next Fort Sumter. And when I Governor Wall said that,

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Speaker 14: and previously he had referenced the Battle of Gettysburg. And

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Speaker 14: so when I hear that kind of language coming out

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Speaker 14: of a governor, that sort of fantasizing about an American

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Speaker 14: Civil War, first of all, I don't think he stopped

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Speaker 14: to consider who that makes him in this entire endeavor.

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Speaker 2: J Davis spoiler alert.

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Speaker 14: And number two, if you wanted more calm, if you

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Speaker 14: wanted a little bit more cooperation, if you wanted to

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Speaker 14: ratchet things down, you would not be referencing the first

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Speaker 14: shots of the Civil War and maybe thinking that we're

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Speaker 14: in the middle of another one.

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Speaker 2: You agree or.

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Speaker 15: Disagree, We don't want to get into a debate about

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Speaker 15: political rhetoric.

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Speaker 11: I don't think because.

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Speaker 2: Do you like the Fort Sumter language?

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Speaker 11: I don't like it, But I don't.

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Speaker 15: Like a lot of things that I hear in our

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Speaker 15: political atmosphere. But I just constantly embaffled by when it

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Speaker 15: is directed at conservatives, they suddenly want to clutch their

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Speaker 15: little pearls. And then when they constantly and ramp.

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Speaker 2: Up the new like it.

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Speaker 15: No, I don't like it at all. But what I'm

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Speaker 15: saying is what I'm saying is called it on both sides.

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Speaker 11: Which I'll never do.

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Speaker 2: See, you only want to just engaged in a massive

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Speaker 2: circular argument. At the at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: it's not pearl clutching. It's not pearl clutching. When the

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Speaker 2: President of the United States was shot at on the

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Speaker 2: campaign trail by a crazy person, Listen, setting aside whatever

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Speaker 2: ideology the kid in Pennsylvania had or the crazy person

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Speaker 2: in Florida. Right, the crazy person didn't actually get a

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Speaker 2: chance to take a shot at the president, but showed

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Speaker 2: up to do that. Right. What it is at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day is it is you know, when

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Speaker 2: you re eat these situations and you incite people to

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Speaker 2: do these things, the folks who have these marginal personalities,

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Speaker 2: they are gonna get involved. They are gonna they don't

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Speaker 2: they don't know how to moderate themselves. They're just taking

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Speaker 2: their cues. You know, this is how Charlie Kirk got assassinated.

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Speaker 2: This is how the crazy person showed up at the

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Speaker 2: congressional baseball game practice in Alexandria, Virginia and started shooting

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Speaker 2: with a semi automatic weapon. That is the end result here,

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Speaker 2: and it's not pearl clutching to say there is something

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Speaker 2: fundamentally wrong. Listen, when me come back, we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about Tim Waltz trying to be too cute by half.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew langer In for Tony Kats today. Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. I am Andrew langer In for Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz Today. You can join the conversation. Andrew Langer Radio

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Speaker 2: calls from folks would disagree with me. If you think

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Speaker 2: The next hour we're gonna be talking about this story.

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Speaker 2: We're getting a car for the indie of the DC

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Speaker 2: Indie race. That's about America's two hundred and fiftieth and

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Speaker 2: of course stuff's coming out from the usual corners. They're

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Speaker 2: angry about this because they're angry about everything. Wanted to

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Speaker 2: play this, so you know, the big announcement in the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, A Tim Walt's not running for reelection.

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Speaker 2: But he also said that he wasn't going to run

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Speaker 2: for another office. And if you thought that might mean

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Speaker 2: that he wasn't going to do anything, think again. He

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Speaker 2: might be playing too cute by half. Here is Liz Collins.

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Speaker 2: She's done a really interesting documentary about what's going on

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Speaker 2: in Minnesota. Here she is on Fox This Morning. Let's

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Speaker 2: play cut number.

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Speaker 16: Thirteen, Governor Walso, you'll notice Jesse careful to say that

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Speaker 16: he will not run for public office again. However, Senator

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Speaker 16: Immy Cklobshar could still appoint him to her Senate seat.

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Speaker 11: Also interesting to.

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Speaker 16: Note that Senator Clobashar in her announcement did not mention

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Speaker 16: President Trump today by name. She did say that she

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Speaker 16: was going to root out fraud. But that's hard for

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Speaker 16: many of us to believe. She's been a senator for

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Speaker 16: nearly twenty years. She has been silent on the issue

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Speaker 16: of Somali fraud in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so, Liz, are you saying there's a deal between

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Speaker 2: Walls and Amy She's going to appoint him to be

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Speaker 2: a senator.

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Speaker 11: It is a possibility.

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Speaker 16: And I thought the word choice in that interview last

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Speaker 16: night was quite interesting. But here on the ground, I

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Speaker 16: think police officers are feeling a bit relieved. I've been

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Speaker 16: speaking to them through this whole process. You know, many

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Speaker 16: of them couldn't do their jobs, especially in Minneapolis before,

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Speaker 16: but Holman seems to have changed things here.

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Speaker 11: We saw mass arrests in media.

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Speaker 2: So that's the idea. Is is playing the usual political

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Speaker 2: word games. Tim Walter said he won't run for office again.

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Speaker 2: Whether not that means he gets appointed to the United

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Speaker 2: States Senate is something else entirely leaving that open there,

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Speaker 2: and wouldn't wouldn't that be wonderful? So listen, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about this issue of the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,

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Speaker 2: the semis esquintennial anniversary, IndyCar that the US government is

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Speaker 2: paying for and the outcry that has happened there got

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Speaker 2: some people, some people have too much time on their

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Speaker 2: hands with these with getting angry about stuff, getting angry

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Speaker 2: about someone whose favorite drink is ice water with extra ice,

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Speaker 2: and seeing the politics and that when you're a hammer,

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Speaker 2: everything looks like a nail. Plus Paul Teller, He's going

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Speaker 2: of course is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 1: Line from the Heartbland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome back everybody. I am Andrew Langer in for

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. So glad I could join you, and

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Speaker 2: a story came out, just came out right before we

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Speaker 2: went on the air. Sahil Kapoor writes this for NBC News.

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Speaker 2: Trump orders up IndyCar race on the streets of Washington

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Speaker 2: for America two fifty Grand Prix Indy Car has embraced

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Speaker 2: the idea. Trump signed an executive order Friday instructing his

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Speaker 2: administration to work with Washington's mayor to launch the race

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Speaker 2: in late August. Yeah, we're looking at August twenty one

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Speaker 2: to twenty three. Hey, my mom's birthday. And the order

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Speaker 2: instructs the Interior and Transportation departments, working in coordination with

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Speaker 2: the mayor to design a race route near the National Mall. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is not d c's first time doing IndyCar. By

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Speaker 2: the way, DC did it a couple of different has

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Speaker 2: done it a couple of different times. You can still

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Speaker 2: on occasion, I think you can still see it out

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Speaker 2: the new or the old RFK Stadium, the football stadium

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Speaker 2: and for a while that's where the Nationals played their

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Speaker 2: parking lot had a cup full of different features that

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Speaker 2: have been uh you know that we're relics remnants of

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Speaker 2: the IndyCar track that was there, and you know, spokesman

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Speaker 2: for Deleanor A Delegate Eleanor Holmes. Norton said she would

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Speaker 2: defer to the mayor h and will work to make

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Speaker 2: it happen if Bowser is on board. And Bowser's office hasn't, hasn't,

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Speaker 2: hasn't responded yet. Listen, here's the thing. Let me take

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Speaker 2: thirty seconds and talk about America two fifty. Here's the

646
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Speaker 2: thing that I'm I'm I'm glad about, grateful for. I

647
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Speaker 2: am grateful for the fact that we have a Republican

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00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: in office during America two fifty. And I don't want

649
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Speaker 2: to make this a our team their team kind of

650
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: a thing, but their team does not like America. You know,

651
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: they can they can, they can make these claims about immigration,

652
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 2: they can make these, but the reality is they don't

653
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: like America. They don't like the American founding. And one

654
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: could only have imagined how America would have been celebrated,

655
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: America's two hundred and fiftieth would have been celebrated had

656
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris become President of the United States. There, I

657
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: said it. That's the bottom line. And so you're gonna

658
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 2: have people who just hate the fact, right they hate

659
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Speaker 2: the fact that we're celebrating America's two hundred and fiftieth.

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00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: They hate the fact that Donald Trump as president, and

661
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 2: so the funny thing is Landon also sent this over

662
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Speaker 2: to me somebody named Sunflower Mads. I don't know who

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Speaker 2: she is, but apparently she does a lot of a

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Speaker 2: lot of writing about this. She or her Twitter handle

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Speaker 2: Sunflower with no E by the way, s U n

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Speaker 2: F l O w R m A DS. She says,

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00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: she writes, I talk about cars going fast and sometimes

668
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: other sports. All views, thoughts, and opinions on my own

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Speaker 2: and do not reflect that of any employer. And she

670
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: is not happy about this. Oh my god, I mean, listen, anyways,

671
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 2: the DC race is a blatant example of propaganda. Don't

672
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Speaker 2: even try and argue with me. This is effing ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: And it's also just going to be an s show

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Speaker 2: on top of that, and I will cheer when it fails.

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00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, you know, it's funny. I was

676
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: just I was just watching the episode of Saturday Night

677
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Speaker 2: Live from I think it was nineteen eighty six. William

678
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: Shatner was the host. Must have been Christmas eighty six,

679
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: and it's the one where Shatner goes up at a

680
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Speaker 2: Star Trek convention goes. It's just a TV show. It's

681
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: just a TV show, And I get it. People get

682
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: passionate about the things that they get passionate about. And

683
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: there are people who are passionate about indie racing. There

684
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: are people who are passionate about auto racing. Generally. My

685
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: brother for the longest time, one of my brothers huge

686
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Speaker 2: nask car fan.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: In fact, there's a story I could tell about how

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Speaker 2: his passion for a NASCAR played into some of the

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00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 2: work that he was doing in Washington, DC or Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I hesitate to talk about it right now. Anyway,

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00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: you know something I can be oblique about it. My

693
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: brother was recognized because he was doing some work for

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Speaker 2: a presidential administration. He became sort of their in house

695
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Speaker 2: NASCAR expert. Anyway, So they're getting this car, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's to celebrate America. It's America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday.

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00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: Guess what, Sunflower mads. Yeah, a lot of the celebration

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00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 2: is going to be propagandistic, without a doubt. I don't

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Speaker 2: have a problem with that, you know, celebrating this nation

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Speaker 2: and the great things that we do. You know, it's

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00:41:54,719 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: funny because Transportation Secretary Duffy. Let me see this now,

702
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: Doug Bergham, I know Duffy Duffy as well as Interior

703
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Speaker 2: Secretary Doug Bergham and Fox Sports CEO Eric Shanks, who's

704
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: network airs IndyCar races, also weighs in. Duffy said, this

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00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: freedom doesn't ring at revs. Indye cars about competition and

706
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: pushing limits, the same things that have always defined America.

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Speaker 2: I will say this much, by the way, one of

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00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: the problems with America today is that our young people

709
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Speaker 2: get off my lawn to sound like an old man here,

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00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: is that our young people don't embrace car culture in

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Speaker 2: the same way that I would say my generation did

712
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: to an extent, but certainly the people who came before me.

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00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: Did you know, it's funny. I was talking to somebody

714
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: at the dog park the other day and their son

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00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: likes to tinker with cars, something you don't hear a

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00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 2: lot about nowadays, And some neighbor complained about it, and

717
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: we were both sort of astounded. You know, why don't

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00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: we Why don't we applaud these things? Why don't we

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00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: you know why? You know, why is it that we're

720
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: not encouraging this. We should be, but she writes, half

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Speaker 2: the Indy car grid is not American. They just promoted

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Speaker 2: a commercial starring a Mexican driver who is a dual citizen.

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Speaker 2: Spells dual wrong. Their champions from Spain. We just last

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Speaker 2: year celebrated one of Roger Penske's drivers becoming a citizen

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Speaker 2: last year. So f this raising f Roger Penske, I

726
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Speaker 2: gotta I gotta tell you something, and not to even

727
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: begin to mention how many of the people working for

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00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: these teams or immigrants or on work visas, you know

729
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Speaker 2: how First of all, how dare you, Madeline Sunflower, mads

730
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: how dare you insert your opinion for these people? Right?

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Speaker 2: You don't know what Pato thinks about this. You don't

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Speaker 2: know what the other employees, the immigrant employees, or the

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Speaker 2: florign employees think about this, the foreign drivers think about this.

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Speaker 2: You want to you want to prove something about this?

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Speaker 2: You know then that do it on the race course,

736
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Speaker 2: that that is, that is the American way, right, you're

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Speaker 2: upset about this. He's got something to prove, you know.

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Speaker 2: Coach Coach doesn't understand. I'm sorry, let me explain this.

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Speaker 2: That's a reference to Chariots of Fire, which if you

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Speaker 2: haven't seen I I I cannot recommend highly enough love

741
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Speaker 2: that movie. For the longest time when I was still running,

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Speaker 2: I don't run anymore. I would watch it probably once

743
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Speaker 2: a year. I love it. It's an inspiring movie. And

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00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: you know it is it is about, you know, one

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Speaker 2: of the main characters, Harold abrahams Actually I will say

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Speaker 2: not just Harold abrahams uh, but Eric Little. If you

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00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: don't know, it's the story of a series of runners,

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00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: I would say British. But the reality is that Harold

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00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: Abraham's he is English and Jewish, but Eric Little is

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Speaker 2: Scottish and Protestant. And not that they're in conflict with

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00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: each other, but they seem to be in conflict with

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00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: a world who wants to who wants to make them

753
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: depart from their views. And so what do they both

754
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: want to do is prove it on the race course.

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00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: That's the message. So let if Pato is unhappy, if

756
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: the the the champion from Spain is unhappy, but that's fine.

757
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 2: Prove it on the race course. But by the way,

758
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: not everything has to be just about your own personal politics.

759
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: You can celebrate America without making it about your personal politics.

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00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: In fact, that's the beauty of America. It's part of

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00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: the reason why I am. I continue to get vexed

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Speaker 2: by performers canceling their performances at the Kenity Center, the

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00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: Trump Kennedy Center. Now do I have a problem with

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump putting his name on the Kennedy Center. Well,

765
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: he didn't do. I think it was perhaps a little

766
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: shall we say, de classe for the board of the

767
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: Kennedy Center to put Trump's name on the Kennedy Center. Yeah,

768
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: you know it. It is essentially a form of genital measuring,

769
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: and I don't think you know that we need to

770
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: be doing that. But on the other hand, a gig's

771
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: a gig. The art is about the art, and one

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Speaker 2: of the ways you demonstrate to the folks who disagree

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00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: with you politically maybe make them rethink their political opinions,

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00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: is by performing for them. Maybe maybe if they appreciate

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00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: what it is that you're that you're saying though, what

776
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: the art is that you're doing, maybe it'll get them

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00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 2: to rethink their things. Maybe let's say for a moment

778
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: that one of these other drivers is an immigrant who

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00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: is unhappy about the Trump anti illegal immigration policies. Fine,

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00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: get out there, drive win, and and you should be sure.

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00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 12: I don't.

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00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I don't particularly appreciate it when

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00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: artists start to get political in their platforms. I don't

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00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: necessarily take my cues. I don't listen to, you know,

785
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: athletes about their petty politics. But other folks might so

786
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: get out there and do it. I don't know. I

787
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: don't know who this is some sunflower mads. Oh, you know,

788
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: I suspect that if I spend any time, maybe I'll

789
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: do it turning the commercial. If I spent any time

790
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: looking through her Twitter feed, we would find that she's

791
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: not happy about a lot of things that this administration does. Anyway,

792
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: want to hear from you. I would love to know

793
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 2: what you think about this indie race in DC in August.

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00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: Andrew Langer Radio, Andrew Langer Radio at gmail dot com,

795
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 2: at Andrew Underscore Langer on Twitter, and you can call

796
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: us here through one seven six thy seven hundred. I'm

797
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: Andrew Langer in for Tony Kats. This is Tony Kats Today.

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00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna be joined in a couple of minutes by

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Speaker 2: Paul Teller. I'm gonna get his take on on this thing.

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00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: So you talk about something, you get ready to tweet

801
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: it out. Uh, and then you come to find out

802
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 2: that sunflow. I don't know if Sunflower Mads is listening

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00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: or one of her friends is listening. I don't know,

804
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: but but she she locked out her account after while

805
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: I was on the air. It looks like so I

806
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: tweeted out the thread that was sent to me by Land.

807
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Land, and you send it to me

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00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: and then and then uh um uh. And then I've

809
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: also tweeted out the screenshot for her lockdown account. That's funny.

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00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: Oh good lord, guys, So there you go listen. I

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00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: have to tell you, Sunflower Mads, if you're listening, your

812
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: friends who may be listening. You know, stampy what you post,

813
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: you know, you don't have to lock it down. You

814
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: know you believe this, you say it. I think about

815
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: cars going fast and sometimes other sports. You know, all

816
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: view's thoughts and opinions are my own and do not

817
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: reflect that of my employer. You write that down, or

818
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: any employer you write that down. You know what you're saying.

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00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what you're saying is going to

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00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: generate some heat. You know, it right. So you get

821
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: out there and you make your statement about about this

822
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: decision about this indie race in DC. You know that,

823
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 2: don't lock it down. Otherwise, by the way, it becomes

824
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: an echo chamber. And I gotta I got an issue

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00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: with this. You know, we'll come back to talk about

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00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: about uh voter I D because there's a lot going

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00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: on there. But but in the meantime, because we are

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Speaker 2: talking about the Bisentennial, I'll talk about the US Olympic

829
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: hockey team later on in the show because that's that's

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00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: that's fun stuff. But right now, I want to take

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00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 2: it a manut. I want to talk about let's let's

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00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: talk about something else that's important. So we've got this

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00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: this moon shot that's happening. I don't know if you're

834
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: aware of this, but we are going back to the

835
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: moon something else. I'm glad, frankly that Donald Trump's president

836
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: for here. And I'm a huge space buff. If you

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00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: haven't heard me talk about this before, I am. I

838
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: talked about it a little bit on Wednesday when we're

839
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: talking about the Challenger disaster. I am a huge space buff.

840
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: For many, many years, we wanted to be an astronaut.

841
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: Neil Armstrong was my hero actually, and that's changed a

842
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: little bit. If you've never watched, give you something else

843
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: to watch over the weekend, if you're snowed in, if

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00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: you have not seen, if you have an HBO subscription

845
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: and you have never watched the series From the Earth

846
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: to the Moon, you absolutely need to watch it. Without

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00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: a doubt. It's one of the greatest docu dramas of

848
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: all time, which is essentially what it is. It's a

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00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: dramatization of the space program. And so I'm actually going

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00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: to say that my heroes are Albein and Pe Conrad,

851
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: but said all of that, that was Apollo Apollo twelve.

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Speaker 2: We're going back to the Moon, and here is NASA

853
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: Administrator Jared Isaacman talking about they're going to send astronauts up,

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Speaker 2: They're going to circle the Moon and come home. Let's

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Speaker 2: let's go to cut number twenty.

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Speaker 17: So over the next couple of days, we're actually going

857
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Speaker 17: to start this process. On Monday, we are going to

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Speaker 17: put that massive moon rocket through all of its paces

859
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Speaker 17: in preparation for its future launch. So we're going to

860
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Speaker 17: load it up with all its liquid oxygen, liquid hydrogen.

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Speaker 17: We're we're going to put a bunch of ground tests

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Speaker 17: through the system in preparation for what's only just weeks away,

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Speaker 17: the most historic human space flight mission in more than

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Speaker 17: a half century. You're going to see that rocket an

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Speaker 17: eight point eight million pounds of thrust, accelerate four NASA

866
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Speaker 17: astronauts farther into space than they've we've ever gone before,

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Speaker 17: pass the Moon, around the Moon, and.

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Speaker 2: Safely back to Earth.

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Speaker 17: This is the first mission in President Rum Artemis campaign.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is massively important, the return to

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Speaker 2: the Moon, so vital that we do this. And listen,

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Speaker 2: I am someone who thinks a great deal about space

873
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Speaker 2: travel generally and about what we need to do. I

874
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Speaker 2: went to an event a couple of years ago. I

875
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Speaker 2: had a fortune where I live of being relatively close

876
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Speaker 2: to one of the NASA research facilities, and so heard

877
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Speaker 2: a presentation by one of the engineers about the return

878
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Speaker 2: to Mars, and I got very frustrated with it, frankly,

879
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Speaker 2: because as I'm sitting there listening to it, there were

880
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Speaker 2: all of these assumptions, and there were assumptions being made

881
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Speaker 2: in which we hadn't posited any change in technology, and

882
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Speaker 2: technology has changed now it has. We haven't had leaps

883
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Speaker 2: and bounds of changes in technology that we would have

884
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Speaker 2: hopefully would have had, right you know between now and

885
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Speaker 2: you know, between the early nineteen sixties and the Moonshot

886
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Speaker 2: and then the Space Shuttle and the launching of the

887
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Speaker 2: Space Shuttle Colombia in April of eighty one. But if

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Speaker 2: we are going to make the decision to go to Mars,

889
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Speaker 2: we are going to have to have some leaps in technology. Why.

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00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 2: Let me tell you why, because it's all going to

891
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Speaker 2: be about weight and duration of spaceflight. And you know,

892
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Speaker 2: the longer the spaceflight takes, the heavier the spacecraft has

893
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Speaker 2: to be, and the longer and that what that means

894
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Speaker 2: is the longer there's the longer the duration is the

895
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: more risks a crew to the space crew. Right with

896
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Speaker 2: going to the moon, obviously there are risks, There are

897
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Speaker 2: risks inherent in anything and everything. But at the very least,

898
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Speaker 2: it's only a what three and a half day trip

899
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Speaker 2: to the Moon from the Earth. And you never do

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Speaker 2: math on the air. It's you, what, twenty four thousand

901
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Speaker 2: miles there, twenty four thousand miles back? I mean it

902
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Speaker 2: it is no, it's more than that. It's quarter of

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Speaker 2: a million miles. So you never do math on the

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Speaker 2: air quarter of a million miles, and if you're going

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Speaker 2: at seventeen thousand miles an hour, it takes x amount

906
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Speaker 2: of time. Right That's the way it is. Right now.

907
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 2: We don't have a way to essentially effectively accelerate past

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Speaker 2: seventeen thousand miles an hour, and so in order to

909
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Speaker 2: get to Mars and minimize the risk of the astronaut

910
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Speaker 2: and not have a massive spacecraft, we're going to have

911
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Speaker 2: to have to have some leaps in technology to get

912
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Speaker 2: us to go faster. And obviously there are risks that

913
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Speaker 2: are inherent and going faster, you know, there are greater

914
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Speaker 2: cataclysms that can happen. By the way, I almost said clataclysms.

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Speaker 2: If you're not following, I don't know how Tony feels

916
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: about about Candace Owens. Not a fan, but there's a

917
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: new Twitter account out there that essentially is taking cuts

918
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: of Candace owens mispronunciation of words, and I got to

919
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: tell you it is it is funny to watch without

920
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Speaker 2: it that you get a nice little, nice little belly

921
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 2: laugh out there. Anyway, to sum up, very excited about

922
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Speaker 2: this indie race in d c H. Very excited by

923
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Speaker 2: the way on the indie race thing. Uh, the NASCAR

924
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 2: movie Days of Thunder has been out there. I did

925
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Speaker 2: not see F one. I need to see F one.

926
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Speaker 2: They've been talking about doing a sequel to both movies combined,

927
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Speaker 2: where it would essentially be Brad Pitt versus Tom Cruise.

928
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Speaker 2: I would I would pay all kinds of money to

929
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Speaker 2: see that. Paul Taylor political hand. Paul Taylor joining us

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Speaker 2: in a moment. Andrew Langer Radio is the email address here.

931
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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Langer. This is of course Tony Katz.

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Speaker 18: Today the land and yet you missed it there that

933
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Speaker 18: given our discussion, you should have played Crosstown Traffic by

934
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Speaker 18: yet Jimmy Hendricks.

935
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Speaker 2: That'd be except this is just hi, everybody. I'm Andrew

936
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Speaker 2: Langer in for Tony Katz. By the way, Tony has

937
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Speaker 2: now weighed in on this IndyCar issue, and he writes,

938
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Speaker 2: IndyCar in DC is incredible for the series. End of discussion.

939
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much, Tony. I appreciate that.

940
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Speaker 2: And this is really interesting because I'm not so anyway,

941
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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that the sunflower mats is on there.

942
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Speaker 2: I will come back to this in a moment, joining

943
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Speaker 2: us right now. Is Paul Teller one of the founders.

944
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Speaker 2: It was the early on I want to say, executi

945
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Speaker 2: vice president of Advancing American Freedom, Paul, I mean, what's

946
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Speaker 2: your what's your relationship with him today these days?

947
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Speaker 7: Hey, appreciate it. First of all, always great to be

948
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Speaker 7: with you, my friend. Thanks for having me on. Yeah,

949
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Speaker 7: so they're a client. I am now president of Teller Strategies,

950
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Speaker 7: went on my own and excellent advancing American Freedom from

951
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Speaker 7: full time to you know, a contractor.

952
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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this before we get into

953
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Speaker 2: the substance. I don't know if you've seen the news

954
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Speaker 2: the President announced as signing an executive order Indye car

955
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Speaker 2: coming to d C in August. I can only imagine

956
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 2: how hot that's going to be. But this is this

957
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Speaker 2: is a big deal, isn't it.

958
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Speaker 7: You know, certainly in Pence world, right, you can you

959
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 7: could imagine yes, right, oh sure, right, you know, I'd

960
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Speaker 7: imagine that that'll be. That'll be practically the closest thing

961
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Speaker 7: to a national holiday, you know, in the world of

962
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Speaker 7: Mike Penn.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, sure, yes, that's it, that's it. That's exciting stuff.

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Speaker 2: So Paul, listen, you know you you worked up on

965
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Speaker 2: the hill, both House and the Senate side. You got

966
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Speaker 2: a good handle. You worked for the White House, as

967
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Speaker 2: as I mentioned to the listeners earlier. So we we

968
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Speaker 2: had a deal. The President had a deal with Schumer

969
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: on on you know, on the Senate side for the

970
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Speaker 2: spending bill. They were going to carve out the ice funding.

971
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Speaker 2: We'll get to that detail in a moment. But the

972
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Speaker 2: House is out of session. So what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: It's funds what happens now? Well, that's the thing.

974
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Speaker 7: I mean, even even if somehow miraculous deal comes together

975
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Speaker 7: on the Senate. You know, Speaker Mike Johnson on the

976
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 7: House side, I said, he's not calling the House back early.

977
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Speaker 7: And you may say, well, why didn't you do that?

978
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Speaker 7: His notion is, hey, we had a bipartisan agreement here

979
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Speaker 7: in the House. It took us a while to stitch

980
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 7: that together. The Senate should just take this and run

981
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 7: with it because it's by far aisan It's something that

982
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 7: the conservatives, moderns and liberals are enough to agree to.

983
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 7: You know, maybe we'll look at it next week. Is

984
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 7: what's Mike Chunton is saying. And that means that you know,

985
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Speaker 7: speak parts of the government will not have appropriations funding

986
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Speaker 7: as of you know midnight tomorrow night, Saturday night when

987
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Speaker 7: you get into bed, that kind of thing. So wow,

988
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 7: here we are going again, right, another another partial shutdown.

989
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 2: Well, and this on the heels of DC being shut

990
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Speaker 2: down for what three days this week? Essentially he did

991
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Speaker 2: two and a half days this week because of the snow.

992
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: You know that that happens there. I'm actually now wondering

993
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: if this means I was going to talk to you

994
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: the tail end of this, Paul. Thursday night is Star

995
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Speaker 2: Wars night at the Washington Capitals Home giving out o

996
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: Wan Kenobi bobbleheads. Yeah, so you I wanted to talk

997
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: to you about this.

998
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 7: I'm a hockey fan.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if this means that tickets, the tickets, more

1000
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Speaker 2: tickets will be available as folks are trying to unload

1001
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Speaker 2: their things. But I mean, Paul, I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: Here's what I'm again trying to wrap my head around here.

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Speaker 2: I had been under the impression that DHS had their

1004
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Speaker 2: funding for the next four years. Not so much so,

1005
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Speaker 2: or did they want to end the funding And by

1006
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Speaker 2: the way, if they if they shut down, if they

1007
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Speaker 2: want to strip out DHS funding, it's not just stripping

1008
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Speaker 2: out ice, but stripping out a bunch of other things,

1009
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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 7: That's a great point. Yeah, I mean you're you're making

1011
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 7: a fantastic point because what a lot of the left

1012
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Speaker 7: realize is that the funding for the deportations basically you know,

1013
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 7: I other related agencies, a huge chunk of funding. Additional

1014
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Speaker 7: funding was provided in the one big beautiful b as

1015
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Speaker 7: folks are called OBBBBBBBB, you know. I mean, so even

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Speaker 7: if you know there's a parts of government shutdown tomorrow,

1017
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Speaker 7: the things that they're trying to stop are still fully funded.

1018
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Speaker 7: They're like ask funded. So that's what's hilarious. And you're

1019
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 7: right to also say if they do, you know, if

1020
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Speaker 7: no deal comes together, government does shut down and maybe

1021
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 7: stay shut down for a while, at least these key parts,

1022
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 7: you know, part of the Homeland Security Department is TSA right,

1023
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 7: the people that help me get to the airports and

1024
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 7: stay safe, right, FEMA, the people who are trying to

1025
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Speaker 7: clean up down and let's say Mississippi and elsewhere where

1026
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Speaker 7: there's her horrible damage from the ice storm, the Secret Service,

1027
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Speaker 7: even I mean things like that Coast Guards. So I

1028
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Speaker 7: mean there's a lot of other things that are being

1029
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Speaker 7: threatened by the Democrat antics.

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Speaker 2: Here, let me let me talk about something else, and literally,

1031
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this, i' when I admit this

1032
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: on there. These are the kinds of things that that

1033
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: do wake me up and keep me keep me up

1034
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: at night. You know, there's a lot that I obviously

1035
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: agree with with what this administration is doing. I did

1036
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: a appreciation a couple of weeks ago about regulatory costs

1037
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Speaker 2: and regulatory cutting. Your colleagues at Advancing American Freedom have

1038
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Speaker 2: done some great work there are continuing to do some

1039
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Speaker 2: great work on that as well. One of the things

1040
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Speaker 2: that you know, the more populist impulses from this administration,

1041
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: and not that they don't bother me, but what bothers

1042
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 2: me is the possibility of being shut out of being

1043
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 2: able to complain about things. So let me let me

1044
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: let me you're gonna you're sitting there. I can't see Paul, guys,

1045
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 2: but I know he's sort of sitting and where the

1046
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: heck I'm going with this? So, you know, a couple

1047
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Speaker 2: of weeks ago, the President announced that he wants to

1048
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Speaker 2: put a ten percent cap on credit card interest rates.

1049
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Speaker 2: Free right, Yeah, And I know folks are like, there

1050
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Speaker 2: are some folks who went, well, you know, this is

1051
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Speaker 2: incredibly politically popular. And I keep coming back to, how

1052
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: am I supposed to advocate against this? If President Bernie

1053
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Speaker 2: Sanders were to do this, or President Elizabeth Warren or

1054
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: President AOC or President insert whatever left as Democrat gets elected.

1055
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Speaker 2: How am I supposed to advocate against this when they

1056
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Speaker 2: do it? If I can't advocate against it, now, we've

1057
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Speaker 2: seem to have lost this idea of being intellectually and

1058
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Speaker 2: ideologically consistent, haven't we, no.

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Speaker 7: Question, And we talked about this before. It's very very disturbing.

1060
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Speaker 7: I hate how it goes back and forth right exactly

1061
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 7: because you made a perfect point, right, If if Kamala

1062
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 7: Harris had won the presidency God FORPID and she did

1063
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 7: this exact same thing, we would be ripping into it

1064
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 7: as price controls, as right government run out of Washington

1065
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 7: trying to tell private companies how to charge their customers,

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Speaker 7: you know, and that kind of thing. And it's just

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Speaker 7: like it's just something anybody, even remotely right of center,

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Speaker 7: should be against. I don't see where this is coming from.

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Speaker 7: I know it sounds sexy on like, you know, a

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Speaker 7: bumper sticker. Let's cap credit card figure is they're ridiculous,

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Speaker 7: But like take that out to its sexological conclusion. The

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Speaker 7: government is setting prices for a private company. I mean, like,

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Speaker 7: how is that not sot it? Right?

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Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, right, it's a

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Speaker 2: it's a situation in which credit card interest rates are

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Speaker 2: among the most democratically determined, you know, rates of lending

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Speaker 2: that are out there. It's not as though that there's

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Speaker 2: some sort of secret sauce that's put in there. They

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Speaker 2: look at your credit history, they look at your past

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Speaker 2: credit payments, they look at how much money you have,

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Speaker 2: and they determine whether or not they want to lend

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Speaker 2: you money. You know, this is this is this is

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Speaker 2: quite literally not rocket science. By the way, I have

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Speaker 2: a piece up for a real clear policy yesterday on

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Speaker 2: this as I'm sorry, Paul, go right ahead.

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Speaker 7: No, it really isn't rocket science. You're exactly right.

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Speaker 11: And you know, here's the thing.

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Speaker 7: It's also a matter of fairness, right in other words,

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Speaker 7: like let's just say I'm a customer and maybe my

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Speaker 7: credit hasn't been so great, but I've worked at it,

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Speaker 7: I've improved my credit, and the credit card company has

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Speaker 7: rewarded me with a reduced rate. Well, now the guy

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Speaker 7: who who may be paying let's say ten percent, who

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Speaker 7: is doing great on his credit, is under this proposal

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Speaker 7: going to be the same as the guy next to him,

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Speaker 7: because he's also going to ten percent rate, who has

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Speaker 7: garbage credits, who has not taking responsible steps. But it's

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Speaker 7: the same. They're treated to be treated the same and

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Speaker 7: going to.

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Speaker 11: Big Mama government, you know.

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Speaker 2: Right, And it makes it makes the moment that was

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Speaker 2: made during the election right where where we were talking

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Speaker 2: about the issue of student loan forgiveness, and and you

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Speaker 2: had the various people confronting first Joe Biden and then

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz about the idea of you know,

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Speaker 2: I've saved, scrimped and saved for many, many years so

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Speaker 2: that my kids wouldn't have to, you know, incur huge

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Speaker 2: amounts of debt for college. You know, why, why why

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Speaker 2: should I get treated the same way or or mistreated

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Speaker 2: in the same way as someone who who didn't do

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Speaker 2: those things. It's it's an excellent point as well. I mean, Paul,

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Speaker 2: what what all are you are you tracking right now?

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously these are the two big things but

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Speaker 2: what all, what's what's what's on your radar screen these days?

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Speaker 7: We know someone we should throw out there because I

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Speaker 7: know that you and I have talked about this before,

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Speaker 7: and other folks that we've worked with together, this whole

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Speaker 7: idea of if you pay a capital gain sex right now,

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Speaker 7: oh yes, you you know this issue. I'm going to

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Speaker 7: bring it up the petition God born issue. Right if

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Speaker 7: you if you pay capital gain tax, you know, there's

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Speaker 7: a huge likelihood that you're also paying embedded in that

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Speaker 7: tax a tax on inflation. Right, meaning like, let's just

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Speaker 7: say if you've bought an asset anything, you know, it

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Speaker 7: doesn't matter what it is. If you bought something at

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Speaker 7: the beginning of the Biden administration, there was twenty percent

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Speaker 7: inflation in the Biden years. So let's say you sell

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Speaker 7: that asset at the end of the Biden years, it's

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Speaker 7: twenty percent higher. You're now paying twenty percent. Let's say

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Speaker 7: it wasn't a great investment, it didn't really go off

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Speaker 7: that much, but you're paying now a capital gains tax

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Speaker 7: on a twenty percent increase. But it's really only due

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Speaker 7: to inflation, you know, So in other words, you're paying

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Speaker 7: this tax on inflation. It's totally unfair. You don't have

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Speaker 7: any actual new increased value. And sometimes people hold on

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Speaker 7: the assets because they don't want to pay a massive

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Speaker 7: capital gain tax, especially if a good portion of it

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Speaker 7: is inflation. That's a long way of saying, Resident the

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Speaker 7: Treasury Secretary actually have the regulatory power. You always talking

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Speaker 7: about regulators, regulatory power to just interpret existing law a

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Speaker 7: certain way so that when you're calculating your capital gains tax,

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Speaker 7: you could back out the portion that's due to inflation.

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Speaker 7: Is only pay a tax on actual real gains.

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Speaker 2: Is there an open rulemaking on this right now?

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Speaker 7: But but they're talking about it.

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Speaker 2: You and I should talk more and more about this, folks.

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Speaker 2: As I've been saying on the air, I don't know what. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: just something popped up on my on my screen here

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Speaker 2: you know, no, no, no, it's this is this is the work.

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Speaker 2: This is the work that I do. And and you

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Speaker 2: and I have talked about this as well, you know,

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Speaker 2: real quick, because you started this advancing American freedom with

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Speaker 2: with the Vice president uh and and they have been

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Speaker 2: growing by by leaps and bounds. Listen, I hate the reasons.

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Speaker 2: You know, What's what's going on in terms of the

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Speaker 2: conservative movement. But other organization's loss is AAF's gain. This

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Speaker 2: is this is good stuff. I mean, this is the

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Speaker 2: way it's supposed to happen in DC, isn't it. The

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Speaker 2: talent is supposed to go where talent is wanted and respected.

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Speaker 2: Well on that's today.

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Speaker 7: And there's just a lot of great hires recently at

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Speaker 7: Advanced American for really top top top folks. I mean

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Speaker 7: folks like Richard Stern, John Malcolm, Hans von Spakofski, some

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Speaker 7: of these names. You may know if you listeners don't

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Speaker 7: like a quick Google search on some of them, you'll

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Speaker 7: see these are just top thinkers, top activists too. You know,

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Speaker 7: these aren't people that just write white papers and stare

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Speaker 7: at the ceiling. I mean these are doers. These are

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Speaker 7: people who try to put things into action, into law,

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Speaker 7: into policymaking, that kind of thing. So it's been a huge,

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Speaker 7: you know, win for Advanced American freedom. But you're also

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Speaker 7: right to say it makes me very uncomfortable to have

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Speaker 7: any divisions amongst friends on the right. We just need

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Speaker 7: all conservative organizations. All organizations should be growing and thriving,

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Speaker 7: we should be collaborating, and there's just good people at

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Speaker 7: all kinds of places.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you're you're here, so listen. In any case,

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Speaker 2: you know, Paul was we got to leave it there.

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Speaker 2: Paul Teller. He is Teller Strategies is a present of

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Speaker 2: Pee Teller on on X. Thank you so very much.

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Speaker 2: And you and I need to chat about Star Wars night.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for flying that without a doubt. All right, take care.

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Speaker 2: That was Paul Tellergo check him out online. And when

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Speaker 2: we come back, we're gonna be talking a little bit

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Speaker 2: about the Navy. And yeah, something popped up here on

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Speaker 2: my screen. The Sunflower Matt's controversy continues. I'm Andrew Langer

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Speaker 2: in for Tony Kats today. Oh, welcome back everybody. Wow,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's getting wild out here, guys. So as

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Speaker 2: I was talking to Paul, you heard me get a

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Speaker 2: little distracted there because popped up on my Twitter feed.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you can join the conversation. Let me

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Speaker 2: say this again. Uh the phone number here three one

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Speaker 2: seven six eighty seven hundred. That's how you can call

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Speaker 2: us here. You could also email me while I'm on

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Speaker 2: the air, Andrew Langer Radio. And for those of you

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Speaker 2: new to this, Andrew spelled the Normal Way A N

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Speaker 2: D R E W Andrew Langer l A n G

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Speaker 2: E R Radio spelled the Normal Way Andrew Langer Radio

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Speaker 2: at gmail dot. You can also at me at me

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Speaker 2: on Twitter, so earlier in the hour talking about this

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Speaker 2: story about IndyCar and DC and a DC race and

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Speaker 2: specifically these some tweets by someone named Sunflower Mats. Now,

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Speaker 2: let me also explain, I don't think he's going to

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Speaker 2: be upset that I'm throwing him under the bus here.

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Speaker 2: I was hipped to this. I don't know who Sunflower

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Speaker 2: Mads is. I was hip to this by Tony's producer Landon.

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Speaker 2: It's a great guy and you're welcome and so so

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Speaker 2: Landon says this to me, I'm like, you know something,

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Speaker 2: let me talk about this because this is kind of crazy,

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Speaker 2: go nuts. It's a big story, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: like this. So then then I get this as I'm

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Speaker 2: talking to Paul Teller, I get this tweet at me

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Speaker 2: because I tweeted out, you know, up screenshot of Sunflower

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Speaker 2: Mads locking down her account, and I get this tweet

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Speaker 2: at me. I don't know why people think they should

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Speaker 2: be allowed to harass other people for having a different opinion.

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Speaker 2: No one was harassing anybody. She has this Twitter feed.

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Speaker 2: I talk about cars going fast and sometimes other sports.

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Speaker 2: All of us thoughts and opinions are my own to

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Speaker 2: do or not reflect out of any employer. She knows

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Speaker 2: that what she's going to be saying is potentially controversial,

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Speaker 2: so she puts that out there. I get it. It's fine,

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Speaker 2: it's social media. So I got this. And then the

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Speaker 2: person then writes, and this is someone knew hurt kirkculew.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. I guess it may

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Speaker 2: be somebody named Kate. They may also have a Twitter

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Speaker 2: account called Champagne Podium, pre War, AOWR history, Detroit Hockeery,

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Speaker 2: and baseball as posting bonus Kate. That's why I think

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Speaker 2: it's someone to the name is Kate. Then they write

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Speaker 2: like this is truly weirdo behavior, and then they write

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Speaker 2: if you think that this event is a good idea,

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Speaker 2: that's e fing fine. You actually don't have to harass

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Speaker 2: other people who disagree, and you certainly don't have to

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Speaker 2: be an efing weirdo and read off tweets off on

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Speaker 2: a radio show and then get pressed when somebody sets

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Speaker 2: a boundary like and then they go on from there.

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Speaker 2: It's actually not hard to be decent, and the above

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Speaker 2: is not decent behavior. I do not care what you

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Speaker 2: feel about the DC IndyCar event, to which I then responded,

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Speaker 2: and let me add to this because it's important here.

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Speaker 2: Let me make sure you understand. I'm a radio host.

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Speaker 2: It's not my full time gigts want to do part time.

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Speaker 2: When stuff mentions my name or stuff catches my eye

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Speaker 2: and it's in the public sphere, I am going to

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Speaker 2: talk about it on the radio. That's what we do.

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Speaker 2: It's not harassment. This person, Sunflower Mads, was commenting on

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Speaker 2: a breaking news story that was sent to me. So

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna comment on her commentary. That's not weird. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna comment on it. If she's going to block people

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Speaker 2: after a voice in her opinion, that's also not weird.

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Speaker 2: It's not stalking. It's not my goodness. People don't understand

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Speaker 2: the way the world works, Landed If they don't anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Langer. This, of course, is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: Line from the Heart Bland and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz Today. Welcome back, everybody. I am Andrew

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Speaker 2: Langer in for Tony Katz today. Don't know if we

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Speaker 2: have new listeners tuning in based upon the way the

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Speaker 2: show is going now. But if you are tuning in

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Speaker 2: for the first time, thank you, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Tony is off today. He's asked me to fill in

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Speaker 2: for him. I fill in for him on occasion. I

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Speaker 2: also do public policy work for Seapack. As someone has

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Speaker 2: already already noted, you could join the show if you

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Speaker 2: want to. You can message me on Gmail Andrew Langer

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Speaker 2: Radio at gmail dot com is the best way to

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Speaker 2: do it. By the way, this is why Land and

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Speaker 2: I set up the new Gmail account. You can also

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Speaker 2: add me on Twitter. You can add me on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: I may read your ats on Twitter. I don't know

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Speaker 2: why this is hard for people to understand at Andrew

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Speaker 2: Underscore Langer. You can also call the show three one

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Speaker 2: seven six four three eighty seven hundred and a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be joined by Terry Wilcox. She's the

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Speaker 2: co founder and chief mission officer of Patients Rising. And

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Speaker 2: if you're just joining the show early on in the

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Speaker 2: last hour, I was talking about this story there's the

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Speaker 2: president announced. Excuse me on last Friday week ago. No,

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Speaker 2: maybe it was, I guess it was today. I'm like

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Speaker 2: the weeks are are blending together. The President announced that

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Speaker 2: he wants to bring an IndyCar race to DC in August,

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Speaker 2: and you know, August twenty first through twenty third, bringing

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Speaker 2: it here. Everybody's weighing in. Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary

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Speaker 2: is excited. Burghum, Doug Burghram, the Interior Secretary is excited.

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Speaker 2: They're they're working it through. And a person will say it,

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Speaker 2: you know, at Sunflower Mads on Twitter. Then I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: figure and throw them under the bus. Land and Land

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Speaker 2: had sent me a series of tweets that this person

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Speaker 2: had written. These were public tweets voicing her opinion in

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Speaker 2: a decidedly negative fashion about about this. And I talked

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Speaker 2: about it and I and I gave my opinion as

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Speaker 2: to what as to what this meant. Then this person

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Speaker 2: knocked down her Twitter account and I tweeted out about

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Speaker 2: it and talked on the air. And it is fascinating

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Speaker 2: to me. Uh, the folks who have popped up in

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Speaker 2: all of this. By the way, it's not harassment if

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Speaker 2: you say something publicly right and you bring notice of people. Right,

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Speaker 2: It's just like listen, just like on TikTok. If someone

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Speaker 2: says something on TikTok or on Instagram or wherever, or

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Speaker 2: on Facebook and they've said it publicly, the folks are

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about it. They're gonna they're gonna send it

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Speaker 2: out there. And and some of these responses are just bizarre.

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Speaker 2: And as I said to several of you on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: I still call it Twitter. Yeah, I'm going to read

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Speaker 2: them on the air. First of all, some guy uh

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Speaker 2: named John Ranjo, and I I assume that's his name,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Local fat Guy John Ranjo writes a Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is a common occurrence for you, ain't it? No?

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Speaker 2: Not actually not really really not.

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Speaker 18: Uh?

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Speaker 2: But but then rights and I asked Landon to help

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Speaker 2: me interpret this because frankly, I don't understand this person,

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Speaker 2: Local fat Guy John Ranjo. That's what this person has

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Speaker 2: written as their Twitter hand er Twitter Twitter handle. I

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Speaker 2: mean TBF to be fair, I mean to be fair.

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Speaker 2: I also wouldn't want a team looking Fred Munster harassing me.

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Speaker 2: And all of those words to me have meaning they do,

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Speaker 2: but put together in a sentence, I have no idea

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Speaker 2: what that means. Are you suggesting that I look like

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Speaker 2: Fred Gwinn, who played Fred Munster on The Monsters. By

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Speaker 2: the way, love the current reference Fred gwyn I think

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Speaker 2: has been dead for twenty five years. So yeah, I

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Speaker 2: get that. And my my reaction is to things like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is the common curds. By the way, No, John,

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Speaker 2: she's not going to sleep with you. Oh my my,

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Speaker 2: my goodness. This is this is just fascinating. Somebody named

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Speaker 2: Carmen Slavsky Rights, I could spend I literally this is great.

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Speaker 2: This is like, you know what, I pulled off all

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Speaker 2: kinds of audio. I don't have to play any of

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Speaker 2: the audio. I got to talk about this for a while.

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Speaker 2: Carmen Slavski Rights. Do you follow IndyCar Andrew No, I'll

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Speaker 2: be I'll be frank. No, I don't follow Indy Car.

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Speaker 2: I don't follow a lot of things I like. I

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Speaker 2: like I like watching baseball, I like watching college football.

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Speaker 2: I love hockey. You know, in terms of sports, if

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Speaker 2: we're talking about sports, you know, I don't follow cricket.

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Speaker 2: I don't follow curling. But if the President of the

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Speaker 2: United States wanted to do a cricket match or a

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Speaker 2: curling match, I wouldn't have a problem with that either,

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Speaker 2: and I would have a problem with folks trying to

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Speaker 2: detegrate him for doing that. I don't know a little

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Speaker 2: a problem with this. Yeah, you know it is. It

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Speaker 2: is amazing they got this back in this someone named

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Speaker 2: new Hurt Kirkculew, which Landon has helped me interpret. It's

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Speaker 2: the It's a portmanteau. Port monteau is a good word.

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Speaker 2: If you don't know, look it up. A portmanteau of

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Speaker 2: a bunch of different uh uh race car driver names

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Speaker 2: rights in my I respond, So I responded to that person.

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Speaker 2: I read it before the hour break. I wrote this.

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Speaker 2: I said, let me walk you through this and again,

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Speaker 2: let me reiterate. This is Twitter, this is X this

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Speaker 2: is public stuff. Here one a person pokes something publicly

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Speaker 2: on social media where the whole point is to have

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Speaker 2: a bunch of people see it and perhaps respond to it. Right,

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Speaker 2: You're not yelling into the void for the purpose of

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Speaker 2: yelling into the void. I mean maybe for some of

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Speaker 2: you it's about yelling into the void, But the reason

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Speaker 2: why you're posting on Twitter is to provoke a reaction.

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Speaker 2: I would think now, if you're just doing it because

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Speaker 2: you want to hear from people who agree with you.

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Speaker 2: That's not the way the world works. It's not the

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Speaker 2: way it should work anyway. Then I too, someone in

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Speaker 2: broadcasting is made aware of this post. That would be me,

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Speaker 2: which by the way, is about a breaking news story.

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Speaker 2: That person, again me, then talks about it on a

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Speaker 2: radio show. Then the person who posted the original content

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Speaker 2: then locks down their account. And five. That's notable. Two

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Speaker 2: as is your response. And it is because part of

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Speaker 2: what I talk about on here is the issue of

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Speaker 2: people with thin skin. And I know none of you

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Speaker 2: heard the show earlier today, right when the first hour

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Speaker 2: of the show. One of the things that I talked about,

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Speaker 2: probably leading up to the twelve thirty PM news if

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Speaker 2: you're listening in the Eastern Standard zone, is this story

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Speaker 2: that I saw again on social media about a coffee

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Speaker 2: shop in which the staff put out their favorite coffee

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Speaker 2: drinks or their favorite drinks while they're at work, and

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Speaker 2: somebody wrote that their favorite drink to drink while they

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Speaker 2: were on duty was ice water with extra ice. And

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Speaker 2: apparently there were people who felt triggered by that description

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Speaker 2: that drink, that that person making a political statement, and

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Speaker 2: so they felt compelled to change it. And so I

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Speaker 2: talked about this, I mean, and the issue of people

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Speaker 2: getting so triggered, the issue of the micro aggression, and

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Speaker 2: how that's a general problem here. Right at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, the original person who posted this, she

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Speaker 2: has welcome to her opinion. He if it was a

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Speaker 2: he is welcome is opinion. In fact, I didn't know

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Speaker 2: if it was actually I did because the name was

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Speaker 2: a girl's name. Who knows these days, right, it's twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. What is a woman anyway? But the point

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Speaker 2: is they put it out there, and somebody is going

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Speaker 2: to talk about it, especially if it's a breaking story.

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Speaker 2: And I get this this this new hurt Kerkulew writes,

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Speaker 2: And I'm supposed to believe that you're doing all this

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Speaker 2: in good faith lmao. I was born at night, but

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Speaker 2: it wasn't last night. Again, don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: I don't you know the at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean by by doing this

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Speaker 2: is my explanation in good faith. My explanation is my explanation.

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Speaker 2: It's up to you to determine whether or not you

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01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 2: think I'm making it a good in good faith or not.

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Speaker 2: All I can do is say, I'm on the air,

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01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it. This is a story. Oh my word,

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Speaker 2: there was one in here. Oh yeah, I wanted to

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01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 2: see this again. You're not supposed to got this somebody

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Speaker 2: named pj V Photography. Vegas born, sooner, bred and a

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01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 2: Buckeye for life. I have a PhD in exploding stars,

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01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: and sometimes I take pictures of race cars and sometimes

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Speaker 2: you're you're right, you're write great poetry. Why won't this

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Speaker 2: young woman simply let me attack her in bad faith

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Speaker 2: while I try to get concertos to dogpiler? Well, okay,

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01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: nobody was attacking her in bad faith. I would I

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Speaker 2: would appreciate an ex plation for that. She wrote it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's Twitter. It's a forum. You

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Speaker 2: write something where essentially you're making these fatuous statements and

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Speaker 2: someone's going to react to it. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: it's fascinating to me. She closed her account. She didn't

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Speaker 2: quick kick your puppy, Quit complaining. Go defend this clown

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Speaker 2: show event on its merits. If you're concerned about perception, Okay,

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Speaker 2: America turns to fifty this year, why shouldn't we have

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01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: an indie race in DC? I think it's very exciting stuff.

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Speaker 2: End of story. By the way, if she did close

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Speaker 2: her account, and I don't know if she did or not,

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Speaker 2: I don't it doesn't I don't know if she did

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Speaker 2: or not. Oh my goodness. Wow, now let me say

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Speaker 2: this much. Now, I genuinely feel bad. I so it

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Speaker 2: looks like this person's Sunflower Mats has closed he our account.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't have had to do that, and I'm sorry

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01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 2: you felt compelled to do that. Nobody was trying to

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01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 2: harass you. You know. The bottom line here is when

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01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: you say outrageous things and someone calls you out and

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01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 2: pushes back on the outrageous things you are saying, that's

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01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 2: that's not someone dogpiling, that's not someone being disingenuous. But

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Speaker 2: I feel terrible that you felt compelled to close your account. Anyway,

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01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: That's that's end with all of this, and I'm sure

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get nothing. I'm not going to close

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Speaker 2: my account, Guys, I'm not going to lock my account down.

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Speaker 2: You are welcome to at me at Andrew underscore Linger

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01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 2: on Twitter, and as I've said, you can call into

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01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 2: the show here if you want to. Three one seven

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01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 2: six four three eighty seven hundred you can email me

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Speaker 2: if you want. Andrew Langer Radio gmail dot com. I'm

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Speaker 2: Andrew Langer. I'm in for Tony Katz today. Who knew

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01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 2: and who knew? What was going to be this kind

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01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: of a show. We're going to talk about voting when

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Speaker 2: we come back. Listen, guys, there's a bit of melancholy

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01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: news that's out there right now. Katherine O'Hara passed away.

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01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 2: Apparently she had a brief illness. She's an actress. You

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01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 2: would know her from everything, I mean literally, from SCTV

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01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,839
Speaker 2: back in the early nineteen eighties, to the Home Alone

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Speaker 2: movies where she played Kevin's mother, to the various Christopher

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Speaker 2: Guest mockumentary movies that he did. She was one of

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Speaker 2: the one of the main stage players in movies like

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Speaker 2: a Mighty Wind and Waiting for Guffman, the Best in Show.

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Speaker 2: I mean, those those are all all actually was she

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Speaker 2: invested show no other thing an maybe not and the

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Speaker 2: Last of Us recently A true a true talent gone

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01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 2: way too soon. You know it's funny. Go and watch

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01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: if you get a chance, the John Candy documentary. Really

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01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 2: she she spends a bit of time talking about him

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Speaker 2: and what was important in their lives and their interactions.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna say an unsung comedy genius no,

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Speaker 2: because she was welso, oh uh, you know, I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure I could say the name of the TV show

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Speaker 2: on the air, but Katherine o'harragon gone way too soon,

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Speaker 2: I am. You know, it's funny sort of my family text.

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Speaker 2: My kids are talking about that, so it's funny. Beckett Adams.

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Speaker 2: I need to need to, I need to requote, repost

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Speaker 2: this on on Twitter. Beckett Adams posted a segment from

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Speaker 2: the movie Waiting for Guffman. If you haven't seen those

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01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 2: Christopher Guest documentary movies, they're really great because it's it's

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Speaker 2: all kinds of, you know, different scenarios. So Waiting for

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Speaker 2: Guffman is about a community that's putting on again a

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Speaker 2: I think it's one hundred and fiftieth anniversary of their town,

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Speaker 2: the town of Blaine. They're gonna put on a pageant.

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Speaker 2: And she and Fred Willard play a couple that is auditioning,

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Speaker 2: and and you know a lot of these a lot

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Speaker 2: of these movies are about people who are just not

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Speaker 2: self aware, so much of it is improv They one

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Speaker 2: of the lines they use in that movie very important

1481
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 2: to a Midwestern audience is We're We're by coastal if

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Speaker 2: you consider the Mississippi River to be one of the coasts,

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Speaker 2: which I find very funny. So there there's that.

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Speaker 5: And in In.

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Speaker 2: A Mighty Wind, she's a folk singer, part of a

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01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 2: folks singing duet called Mitch and Mickey, and and it's

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01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 2: it's just it's all good stuff. So she is. She

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01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 2: is fantastic. Logs some time this weekend with sc TV,

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01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 2: which was roughly contemporaneous with Saturday Night Live Saturday. So

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Speaker 2: the Saturday Night Live original cast, many of them came

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01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: out of the Second City Comedy Troupe. And because the

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01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 2: Second City lost so many of these comedy geniuses, folks

1493
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 2: realized that there was an opportunity there, and so SCTV

1494
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 2: was born out of a Canadian television And so you

1495
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: have John Candy and Eugene Levy and Martin Short, and

1496
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 2: Rick Moranis and Catherine O'Hara and Angela Levy. I could

1497
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 2: go on and on and on. Most of the shows

1498
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: are up on YouTube, you can find them, and and

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01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: she is just terrific. It's all about all about the timing.

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Speaker 2: All about the commitment character. Uh so safe home. Uhtain O'Hara,

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01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 2: you you are going to be missed. I want to

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01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 2: go here because one of the other things that's happening

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01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,560
Speaker 2: in the world as we're talking about what's going on

1504
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,799
Speaker 2: in Minnesota, is the issue of election integrity.

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01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 8: And so.

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01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 2: The Chip Roy, we're going to jump down to cut

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01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 2: number fourteen, by the way, Land and I'm giving you

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01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 2: a warning here because I didn't put it higher on

1509
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 2: the cutlist. Chip Roy and Mike Lee have a have

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01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 2: an amendment to the Save Act talking about the issue

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01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 2: of voter ID. Let's go ahead and play cut number fourteen.

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Speaker 19: At President Trump's suggestion, I'm walking into the Senate right

1513
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 19: now to refile the Save Act. We've added a voter

1514
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 19: ID provision, as he suggested, and also as President Trump suggested,

1515
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 19: we've renamed the Save Act. It's now called the Save

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01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 19: America Act because that's what it would do. This is

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01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 19: necessary to save America. When we save our voting system,

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01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:50,839
Speaker 19: we protect American election security. We truly do save America.

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01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 2: Let's get this passed. Listen, He's not wrong. The reality

1520
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 2: is that this is vitally important to the Zoo overall.

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01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: Survival of the republic and so you know we how

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01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 2: do we know this? Well, the left is, of course

1523
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: using their usual troops. Here is Representative Jaya Paul talking

1524
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 2: about the use of voter ID. Let's go ahead and

1525
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: play on number fifty. It's a huge issue.

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01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 20: We're filing cases in court around states that are trying

1527
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 20: to suppress voters, you know, refuse to provide water to

1528
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 20: people at the polls, all the ways in which voters

1529
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 20: are intimidated, including as you mentioned, new ID requirements that

1530
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 20: Republicans are trying to get into many places.

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01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 2: You know, we've heard this trope before. I'm going to

1532
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 2: reference another sport, by the way, because the stuff keeps

1533
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: coming in. By the way, if any of you had

1534
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 2: any I'm sorry. I'm going to come back to this.

1535
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 2: Someone named Boston meg Sox rights on Twitter. I come

1536
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 2: from swifty Twitter trenches. I will run I think she

1537
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: means ruined. I will run this man's life for even

1538
01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: thinking of Madeline. I promise you know something. Boston meg

1539
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 2: Sox says it all Uh call us three one seven six,

1540
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 2: three eighty seven hundred. You're you're more than welcome to please. Well,

1541
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 2: we'll have this discussion about how you're going to run

1542
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 2: my life. Here's the reality. The reality is you remember

1543
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 2: that the Major League Baseball pulled out of Georgia when

1544
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: Georgia was instituting voter ID rules, talking about the issue

1545
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 2: of intimidation and voter suppression, and what happened. More people

1546
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:35,640
Speaker 2: after that voted more than ever in the Georgia elections.

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01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: It's not a form of voter intimidation. I didn't get

1548
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 2: a chance to plan. I don't think I'm gonna have

1549
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:45,560
Speaker 2: time to do it. But there is this video that

1550
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 2: is out of Arizona. An Arizona State senator asked a

1551
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 2: series of questions to various various leftist groups that were

1552
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,600
Speaker 2: testifying before his committee, and he asked them if they

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01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 2: believed that only citizens should vote in Arizona elections, and

1554
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 2: not one person could give him a straight answer on this.

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01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 2: The answer is very simple. The answer is no. If

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01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 2: you are not a citizen of the United States, you

1557
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 2: are not allowed to vote in our elections. That's the

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01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 2: way it works. In the same way that if I

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01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 2: were living and working in France and I was not

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01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 2: a French citizen, I wouldn't be able to vote in

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01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 2: French elections. If I were living and working in the UK,

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01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 2: I would not be able to I would not be

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01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: able to vote in UK elections. That's what makes a

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01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 2: nation a nation is alonely allowing its citizens to vote.

1565
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 2: It's elections that any case. Listen, when we come back,

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01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 2: we're going to be joined by Terry Wilcox. We're going

1567
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,679
Speaker 2: to be talking healthcare. She's with patients rising. I'm Andrew

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01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 2: Langless Tongue can pay there. We've got Terry Wilcox on

1569
01:31:57,439 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 2: the phone. But Mike call did He's got a quick question, Mike,

1570
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 2: good morning or good afternoon, Welcome to the Tony Kats today.

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01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 12: Yes, sir, my question was the Democrats. I think it's

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01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 12: Schumer is trying to pass the bill to get ice

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01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 12: agents where they can't wear a mask. And my question is,

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01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 12: correct me.

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01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 11: If I'm wrong.

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01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 12: But if they had a question on an agent and

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01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 12: want to know who he was, whether he has a

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01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 12: mask or not, couldn't they.

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01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 11: Just ask a supervisor and they would tell him.

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01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 12: And my question is, if that's the case, then the

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01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 12: only thing about taking their mask off, you're either one

1583
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 12: a form of intimidation to try to intimidate the officers

1584
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 12: from doing their job, or two to put their lives

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01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 12: in danger.

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01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 2: That's exactly what the lives of their family. Listen, it's

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01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 2: the same, Mike. It's the same reason why they want

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01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 2: access to donor lists. It's the same reason why the

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01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 2: KKK and the state of Alabama wanted the donor list

1590
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 2: to the NAACP back in the nineteen fifties. Right, we

1591
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:55,480
Speaker 2: have this case NAACP versus Alabama. It's all about intimidation.

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01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 2: They want to be able to intimidate to people that

1593
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,560
Speaker 2: they don't agree with. Could possibly go wrong when you

1594
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 2: have when you have Lawrence Krasner, the DA of Philadelphia,

1595
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 2: saying we're gonna hunt them down. What could possibly go

1596
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 2: wrong if all of a sudden they get docked. Listen, Terry,

1597
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Listen, Mike, I gotta let you go because

1598
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 2: I want to bring our guest on. Her name is

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01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 2: Terry Wilcox. She is with Fund the Patient, this new

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01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 2: organization that's been stood up. She's got a really great

1601
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 2: op ed in the DC Journal, the real cost of

1602
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 2: the ACA subsidy fight Who's paying? But let's pull it back, Terry,

1603
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 2: and let's talk a little bit about big insurance and

1604
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 2: the idea of funding the patient. Talk about what that

1605
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 2: is all about. Why that's important.

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01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 13: Well, it's so important because we've tried it the insurance way, right,

1607
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 13: We have tried funding insurance companies. And let me tell you,

1608
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 13: when insurers are complaining that they're losing money without subsidies

1609
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 13: and all these things, well, that tells you everything you

1610
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 13: need to know, right, Yes, tell Joey you need to

1611
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 13: know right there, And funding the pay what we're talking

1612
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 13: about is, let's try it another way. Let's turn this

1613
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 13: on its head and try to give money to the

1614
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 13: actual patient to let them decide what's best for their care.

1615
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:18,639
Speaker 13: I'm not talking about an emergency. I'm talking about your

1616
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 13: general care. What types of insurance they want, what, you know,

1617
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 13: what they want to use their HSA for, what kinds

1618
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 13: of I want them to be able.

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01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,640
Speaker 11: To shop right, right?

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01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 2: And and that's that's what it comes down to. One

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01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 2: of the things that I talk about in my work

1622
01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 2: is that the healthcare is essentially a resource economics issue.

1623
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 2: We don't have enough doctors, we don't have enough nurses,

1624
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 2: we don't have enough physicians, assistants, and and so we

1625
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,799
Speaker 2: don't have enough time of those those medical care providers

1626
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 2: to go around and when you try to artificially depress

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01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 2: the price, which is what insurance does as a cost

1628
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 2: sharing mechanism, it accelerates the decline in supply. And what

1629
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 2: I appreciate about this approach to this, whether it's fund

1630
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:03,759
Speaker 2: the pay patients rising, is that it empowers the patients

1631
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 2: to act on their own behalf. They have the money

1632
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 2: to do with it what they want, how they want.

1633
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 2: And this it spurs the idea of finding new solutions

1634
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 2: in a patient patient centric health care environment, doesn't it.

1635
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 11: Absolutely?

1636
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 13: I mean, we don't have a health care We don't

1637
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 13: have a healthcare system right now that is functioning as

1638
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 13: a free.

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01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 11: Market, right. We don't have a healthcare we don't have

1640
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 11: a healthcare affordability problem.

1641
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 13: We have a government design system that rewards high prices

1642
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:37,520
Speaker 13: and punishes consumers.

1643
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 2: You know, I mean literally just that I just had

1644
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 2: this conversation with somebody about the Affordable Care Act and

1645
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 2: about the insurance mandate and about how all of what

1646
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 2: we're seeing now was part of the design. Right. The

1647
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 2: whole idea was eventually they knew that big insurance was

1648
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 2: going to be to go away, you know, the for

1649
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 2: profit model to be replaced by government run health insurance,

1650
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 2: and this was a way for the insurance companies to

1651
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 2: get as much money out of the system as they could. Again,

1652
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:06,720
Speaker 2: this changes the dynamic, doesn't it.

1653
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 11: Absolutely.

1654
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 13: I mean, real reform for us, for fund the patient,

1655
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 13: for patients rising is moving money closer to the patient,

1656
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 13: not farther away. So expanding and modernizing health savings accounts

1657
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 13: and encouraging direct primary care.

1658
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 11: We have a we have a huge primary care doctor

1659
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 11: shortage in this country because they don't take you know, all.

1660
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 13: The they don't take all the plans, some don't even

1661
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:34,799
Speaker 13: take Medicare advantage anymore.

1662
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 11: There's all kinds of so we are lacking in that.

1663
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 13: My own husband here in Northern Virginia struggled to get

1664
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 13: a primary care doctor. I mean, it's we have to

1665
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 13: we have a direct primary care doctor for that reason.

1666
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 2: As as someone who as someone who is married to

1667
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 2: a primary care physician, believe me these Listen, my wife

1668
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 2: is the person who hit me to the fact that

1669
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 2: we've got this, we've got this shortage that's out there already.

1670
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,080
Speaker 2: And one of the things. The other thing that I

1671
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 2: talk about is, you know what we think about as

1672
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 2: health insurance isn't really insurance at all, right, it is.

1673
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 2: It is a cost sharing mechanism similar to costco. Right.

1674
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 2: The idea is that if you get enough patients buying in,

1675
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 2: you should have sort of the the economies of scale

1676
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 2: that go into it. But you know, when costco starts

1677
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:21,400
Speaker 2: running out of toilet paper or paper towels, they can

1678
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 2: just go order more from the supplier. Not the case here.

1679
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 2: You know, insurance is supposed to be used for catastrophes.

1680
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:33,600
Speaker 2: That's why I've always liked the HSA centered model. You

1681
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 2: have hsas combined with a high deductible health insurance plan,

1682
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 2: so you're saving up so you're not spending insurance money

1683
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 2: for your annual or semi annual UH family, family doc visit,

1684
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 2: your your your your your check up. You're you're spending

1685
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 2: money out of your HSA on that while you're also

1686
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 2: saving for for you know, the deductible in case you

1687
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 2: do have a catastrophe. This is what we're talking about,

1688
01:37:58,640 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 2: isn't it, Terry?

1689
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 11: Absolutely?

1690
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 19: You.

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Speaker 13: I mean you have to allow patients to be able

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Speaker 13: to do that. I mean, right now, we don't have

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Speaker 13: a functioning insurance system right now.

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Speaker 11: Basically, when you have.

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Speaker 13: A one size fits all plan, which is what the

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01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 13: Affordable Care Act marketplace is. It's a one size fits

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01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 13: all plan. So that's what makes it so incredibly expensive.

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01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 13: So now we want you know, and I always tell people,

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01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:29,560
Speaker 13: I'm like, look, I don't file an acclaim with my

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01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 13: homeowner's insurance to get my gutter steen every year, and

1701
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 13: I file a claim with my car insurance to change

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01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 13: my oil, right, So we shouldn't do that to go

1703
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,879
Speaker 13: just visit the doctor for an annual checkup.

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01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,799
Speaker 11: I understand why it's covered. I get all the reasonings

1705
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 11: behind it. I actually do. But at the same time,

1706
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 11: it's a lot of money.

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01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 13: When you're talking about the average premium now for a

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01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 13: family of forrest, twenty seven thousand dollars right twenty.

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01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 11: What could you do with how many primary care visits

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01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 11: could you get?

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01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 2: You imagine what we're putting that into. Some kind of

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01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:05,520
Speaker 2: even low interest bearing HSA coupled with a high deductible

1713
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 2: real catastrophic insurance plan. The things that can be done

1714
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 2: with this. So what's next? I mean, we had gotten

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01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 2: past the subsidy fight. Now we're dealing with ICE and

1716
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 2: DHS funding. But what's going to be next in terms

1717
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 2: of healthcare reform in Congress because some of this, so

1718
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,600
Speaker 2: much of this has to be a legislative fix. What

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01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 2: are you guys looking at in early twenty twenty six

1720
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 2: on this, Well, what we're.

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Speaker 13: Looking at are you know, there's several bills floating around

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01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 13: out there, and the primary thing that patients rising and

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01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 13: funded patient.

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Speaker 11: Are looking at is we want to see bills and options.

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Speaker 13: And the President put laid out a lot of things

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Speaker 13: that you see, he wants in the Great American Healthcare

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Speaker 13: Plan that he laid out a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 13: But we wanted to help people, not systems, Empower patients,

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01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 13: not bureaucrats, you know, create competition so costs are lower

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01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 13: and that's what and transparency and pricing. These are the

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01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 13: things that we want to see, you know, the plan

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01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 13: needs to encompass.

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Speaker 7: We need to we need to.

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Speaker 13: Take the Rubik's cub of health care, which we've been

1735
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 13: trying to do the same way now for about fifteen years, right,

1736
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 13: it's only got more extensive and kind of turn it

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01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 13: on its head and try to do the other side

1738
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 13: and see what happens when we when we you know,

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01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 13: switched the paradigm towards people in patience and give it

1740
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 13: a shot. It doesn't have to be everything all at once,

1741
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 13: all at the same time. It doesn't even have to

1742
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 13: mean kill the ACA completely.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if imagine if we had allowed for the greater

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01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 2: HSA usage when the affordable character was first passed, and

1745
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 2: at the same time we had engaged in a moonshot

1746
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 2: style program to create more doctors, especially primary care physicians,

1747
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 2: and we went out there and we funded residency programs,

1748
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 2: which is the other part of this that nobody talks about,

1749
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 2: that we don't have enough residency programs to go around,

1750
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:09,600
Speaker 2: so we get all of those things funded where we

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01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 2: would have been in twenty twenty six if we had

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Speaker 2: started in twy ten at twenty eleven, Terry, how do

1753
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 2: folks find out Mark but the good work that you

1754
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 2: guys are doing at Patients Rising and fund the patient.

1755
01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 13: Well, if for fund the patient, you can go to

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01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 13: fundthepatient dot com. And that's everything about our campaign, which

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01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 13: I am a advisor on, and then I am the

1758
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 13: co founder and chief executive officer of Patients Rising, which

1759
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 13: is Patients Rising dot org. And we offer programs to

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01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 13: teach patients not only about the healthcare system and how

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01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 13: to advocate for themselves within it, but also how to

1762
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 13: advocate for others as well. So that's what Patient's Rising

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01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 13: has a lot of programs like that.

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Speaker 2: What I appreciate about the work that you're doing at

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01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 2: Fund the Patient and Patience Rising is that you have

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Speaker 2: both physicians and public health exps who are deeply involved

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01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 2: and looking at your advisory board right now. That makes

1768
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 2: me feel good because we need thoughtful people who are

1769
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 2: deep thinkers about these issues, engaging in the advocacy. I

1770
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Speaker 2: hope to have you back soon. Thank you so very

1771
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Speaker 2: much for joining us today.

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Speaker 11: Thank you have a good day.

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Speaker 2: Take care. That's Terry Wilcox. She is the founder and

1774
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Speaker 2: CEO of Patients Rising. That's p a I T I

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01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 2: e n T S Rising dot org. Also fund the

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Speaker 2: Patient dot com f U n D Fund the Patient

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Speaker 2: dot com. Go and check those out. I'm Andrew Langer. Listen,

1778
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:36,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about Olympic hockey in a couple of

1779
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 2: minutes here on Tony Katz today. So Land and telling

1780
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 2: me he's off to go and do production for the

1781
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 2: IU hockey team tonight. Land And I'm sorry, is it

1782
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 2: their last game?

1783
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 7: Oh?

1784
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 2: How exciting? Listen, So much fun. You're gonna have fun.

1785
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 2: I know, I know you're gonna have so much fun tonight.

1786
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:57,599
Speaker 2: With that in mind, something I wanted to talk about today.

1787
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 2: Big special drops on on Netflix today. And yes, the

1788
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:05,639
Speaker 2: comments are still coming in on the on the IndyCar

1789
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 2: Race in DC. Wow, you know you touch you talking

1790
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 2: about the third rail? Boy? Oh boy, that I did.

1791
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:14,680
Speaker 2: I touched the third rail today, land And and thank

1792
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 2: you Tony for following this. I know Tony's sitting there

1793
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:22,600
Speaker 2: laughing his keyster off on all of these things. I

1794
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 2: am a hockey fan. My brothers were the players. I

1795
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 2: never had the coordination for it. I like, I like

1796
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 2: watching it, and you know, like a lot of folks

1797
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 2: my age, you come into it because you watch the

1798
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty US Olympic cop hockey team. And I bring

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01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 2: it up today because this new Netflix documentary comes out today,

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01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 2: and the seminal documentary of course being the HBO documentary

1801
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 2: Do You Believe In Miracles? And then of course the

1802
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 2: movie with Kurt Russell called Miracle. I was trying to

1803
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 2: get Mike Ruzione on We're trying to figure out a time,

1804
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 2: but he is just so busy doing press right now

1805
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 2: that it that it just didn't happen. But I want

1806
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 2: to I want to take your your your memories back

1807
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 2: to nineteen eighty and the final ten seconds of that

1808
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 2: that game in which the Americans went in as underdogs,

1809
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 2: were very very important. Go ahead and play cut twenty

1810
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 2: one there landing.

1811
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Speaker 12: Well, you look at you get hit by Randy, but

1812
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 12: Lenan is there.

1813
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 5: The puppy still loose.

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01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 2: Eleven seconds. You've got pat going on now. I cannot

1815
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 2: help it get under there. I cannot help but getting

1816
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 2: You get goosebumps every time I hear it. And I

1817
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 2: can't tell you how many times I have heard al

1818
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 2: Michaels say, do you believe in miracles?

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Speaker 7: This was a.

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Speaker 2: Seminal moment in American history. It is I rank it

1821
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 2: up there. I rank it up there with the Moon landing.

1822
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 2: I rank it up there with with the Ripe Brothers

1823
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 2: at Kitty Hawk. You know this was a this was

1824
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:05,679
Speaker 2: a seminal moment. Why because America was on the ropes

1825
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 2: and a great many of you will remember this, remember

1826
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 2: the seventies and coming out of Vietnam and coming out

1827
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 2: of Watergate, and the economic problems frankly that were caused

1828
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 2: in no small measure by Nixon and then exacerbated by

1829
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter. We had the hostage crisis, you know, the

1830
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 2: Americans that have been held hostage in Iran. We're still

1831
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 2: find that war. We had the Soviets well invade Afghanistan.

1832
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 2: And as the backdrop of all of this, the Americans

1833
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 2: had not won a gold medal in Olympic hockey since

1834
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty And the Soviets had this professional team as

1835
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 2: if you watch the HBO documentary, they were amateurs in

1836
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 2: name only only through the sort of manipulation of the

1837
01:45:56,520 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 2: rules because they weren't being paid as hockey players. They

1838
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 2: were being paid as members of the US military, of

1839
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 2: the US military, the Russian military. Sorry, it's been a

1840
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 2: long day. And so the US team was not just

1841
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 2: a bunch of amateurs, but a bunch of kids, right.

1842
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 2: These were These were guys who were either just out

1843
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:24,639
Speaker 2: of college or still in college. They hadn't played together before,

1844
01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,799
Speaker 2: unlike the Russian national team, which had been practicing together

1845
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 2: for years and had this just level of professionalism that

1846
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 2: they didn't have. But you had HERB Brooks, the famed

1847
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 2: hockey coach, and he was brought on board, and and

1848
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 2: and It was perceived as a thankless job. But he

1849
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 2: had an idea in mind. He knew how to go

1850
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 2: after the Russians. He had a program and it started

1851
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 2: with endurance. He was playing the long game in a

1852
01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 2: very literal sense. And these college kids came back and

1853
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 2: they won. And by the way, a lot of folks

1854
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 2: don't realize, they had to win one more game after that.

1855
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:12,720
Speaker 2: I think they had to beat Sweden after this, and

1856
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 2: there was a moment and Mike Ruzioni talks about this

1857
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 2: in the HBO documentary and I would have asked him

1858
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 2: about it today if we'd been able to get him

1859
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 2: on the air. You know, Herb Brooks. His only pep

1860
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:29,240
Speaker 2: talk was after they'd already beaten the Russians and they

1861
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 2: were up for this gold medal game. He says, if

1862
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 2: you don't win this game, you're gonna take it to

1863
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:37,559
Speaker 2: your effing graves. And he stopped at a beat, turned

1864
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 2: around and said, you're effing graves. And they went in.

1865
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 2: They won, and it was spectacular, a spectacular moment, a

1866
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 2: singular moment in American history. Listen, it's been a thin

1867
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 2: slice of heaven to everybody. Oh, I apologize for offending

1868
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 2: the the IndyCar lovers out there by talking about it.

1869
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 2: How dare I talk about it on the air? If

1870
01:47:57,320 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 2: you can check me out Andrew Alanger Radio a Gmail

1871
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:04,080
Speaker 2: at Andrew Underscore Langer on Twitter. Tony is back on Monday,

1872
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 2: I believe, so check him out and thank you Tony,

1873
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,719
Speaker 2: thank you Landon, thank you everybody. Have a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: Please to say