1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: Tony Cats today. 3 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: So we will see what the House of Representatives does. 4 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: We will see if they actually do vote today to 5 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: reopen the government. 6 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Great to be with you. 7 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: I will admit I expected much more pushback on the 8 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: Senate side when it came to passing this legislation, these 9 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: three pieces of legislation. I expected to see more from 10 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: Ran Paul on a very interesting conversation regarding him, which 11 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: I thought was just him being Rampaul. It turns out, 12 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, no, no, there's a very unique story here, 13 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: something that was thrown into this legislation. I expected more 14 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: from the Democratic Party because they're just so angry and 15 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: they hate a Schumer so much. 16 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not just hate. 17 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: It is NonStop, visceral, maddening hate. Yet Tim Kaine, who's 18 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: voted to and the shutdown in the Senate, wants to 19 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: engage some level of defense here. 20 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: Do you have confidence in Schumer's leadership? 21 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: Yes, I do. I voted for him. He's a good leader. 22 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 5: He delivered historic wins for the United States when he 23 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: was majority leader. 24 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: Look, it's tough. Being a minority. It's very tough. 25 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 5: And the notion that Chuck Schumer should be able to 26 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 5: control or corral Senate Democrats is sort of laughable. 27 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: Well, if you know something about the Senate. 28 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 5: I very much appreciate Chuck's leadership, but I don't need 29 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 5: his permission to do what's right for Virginia, because Virginians 30 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 5: gave me a permission slip when they elected me to 31 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 5: a third term in the Senate last year. 32 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: And what I decided was there was no path for. 33 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 5: It on healthcare with the government closed and people were 34 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 5: getting hurt in SNAP and other key areas. With the 35 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 5: government closed, we needed a reopen government, protect federal employees, 36 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 5: protect SNAP beneficiaries, and then this battle about healthcare without 37 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 5: the background noise of shutdown and scaring, the real stakes 38 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 5: and the American public's ability to see who's on their 39 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 5: side and who isn't with respect to healthcare. 40 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: So if I could translate Chuck Schumer great leader, I 41 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 2: just don't have to listen to him. 42 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's just precious right there. 43 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely fantastic Democrats, as I said, out of their head 44 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: angry because this was all a game, and the game 45 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: is always predicated on how much can we destroy the 46 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: Republican Party, how much can we shame the Republican Party, 47 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: how much can we hurt these people because they expect 48 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: the Republican Party to fold, They expect the Republican Party 49 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: to give up, They expect them to quit, and they didn't. 50 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: And that's one of the great great lessons here that 51 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: they didn't. We'll get into it. So this is going 52 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: to hopefully end things by Friday past the House Rules 53 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: Committee last night they finished up at one in the morning. 54 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: Turns out they do know how to work late. It 55 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: was a six hour meeting hearing with this group. The 56 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: Democrats look to force votes on amendment's dealing with COVID 57 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: nineteen Obamacare subsidies, which is an interesting part of this. 58 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: We have been talking about the subsidies. 59 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: In and of themselves that we knew they were going 60 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: to sunset at the end of twenty twenty five, the 61 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: subsidies for Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, only proving how 62 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: unaffordable Obamacare is. We're sunsetting at the end of twenty 63 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: twenty five. Democrats voted for this in the Inflation Reduction Act. 64 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: How many people knew that the subsidies were increased during COVID, 65 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: and that's what Democrats want to keep going. No hands none, 66 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: none over there, no hands are up. So it's not 67 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: just about subsidies. It's about larger scale subsidies that Democrats 68 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: put in place during COVID, because, after all, you have 69 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: to help people. We told them they couldn't go to work, 70 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: and now you have to help people. So you have 71 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: to give them this and give them that and give 72 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: them the other. Now, I accept the fact that Republicans 73 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: have done an absolutely horrific job, an absolutely horrific job 74 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: in dealing with Obamacare. 75 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: They couldn't get Skinny repealed. 76 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: Done, and then they have not been able to engage 77 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: a conversation of why we need something else, or rather 78 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: why this doesn't work. I think President Trump through this 79 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: idea of why are we giving them money to this 80 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: group or that group, are insures companies or hospitals. Why 81 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: don't we give directly to the people. Well, why do 82 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: we now send me my own money? You know, it's 83 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: like the tariff conversation. President Trump is like, oh, we're 84 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: gonna send people two thousand dollars is a dividend from 85 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: all the wonderful tariff money we're taking in, but I'd 86 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: rather not be charged the tariff and then wait till 87 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: you learn who actually gets the tariff dividend. 88 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: It could be you, it might not be you. All 89 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: depends on what you make. 90 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: And it seems we have a very unique idea of 91 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: what rich is in America. 92 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: I will get to that. 93 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: But if you're going to discuss a different way to 94 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: do things other than Obamacare regarding getting dollars to Americans 95 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: to get health insurance, all right, we're at least discussing 96 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: Obamacare being out, even though I don't appreciate the concepts 97 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: at all about what govern should be doing. I think 98 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: we need less government intervention in this, not more. And 99 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: the people pushing for government run healthcare, those people are mad. 100 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: And when I say mad, I don't mean angry, I 101 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: mean crazed. 102 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: Well, the costs will be less, the costs will not 103 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: be less. The costs might be less to you, but 104 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: the costs will be more to others. And if you 105 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: think that's okay, that's weird. 106 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: You want to subsidize this group at the expense of 107 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: that group, I'm sorry, that's unacceptable. That's an obscenity. Why 108 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: would anybody think that that's of value, that that's decent. 109 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: They actually think that they are moral people. 110 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: They are not. 111 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: The Republicans have done a lousy job of this, and 112 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: they've done a really lousy job of pushing the idea 113 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: that the market has a value. And we've got a 114 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: whole group of people on the political right now who 115 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 2: seem to be very opposed to the concept of markets. Man, 116 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: do they need to get slapped around something fierce? Yeah, theoretically, 117 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: not talking about getting physical with anybody. Everybody just settled 118 00:07:54,800 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: down already. Bombacare doesn't work. Republicans need to now go 119 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: forward on this with strategy about hey, this would be 120 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: better for you, This is a. 121 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: Better economic value to you. 122 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: This is where you save, and this is where you 123 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: get something better. Because sadly, we at least have to 124 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: accept that we have introduced him to America. You do 125 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: want to talk about the very evil of Barack Obama's presidency. 126 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: We've put into the American ethos the idea that government 127 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 2: is supposed to provide these things. This was the worst 128 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: part of it. This was the worst part about bail APIs. 129 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: Bailouts. 130 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: If we go back to George Bush and Barack Obama 131 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: said to America, if anything goes wrong, don't. 132 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: Worry, We'll take care of it. 133 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 2: And we introduced the idea of too big to fail, 134 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: full nonsense. AIG wasn't too big to fail, Leavin Brothers, 135 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: bear Stearns, they weren't too big to fail. Intel is 136 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: not too big to fail. If you can't do it, 137 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: you can't do it. And the idea that someone won't 138 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: take the place there isn't an opportunity for a better operator. 139 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: Dismiss this out of hand. It's just nutty nutty. But 140 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: let's go one thing at a time. Here, here we 141 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: are taking a look at the House of voting to 142 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: end this shutdown. I for one, am very pleased. I 143 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: want to see it end. And I like the fact 144 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: that the Democrats are this angry. I like the fact 145 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: that they're upset. I want to see what they do 146 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: with this, because what they could do with this gets 147 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: far more ridiculous than anything you've ever imagined, because losing 148 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: is not what they are used to, and Republicans being united. 149 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: It's really not what they are used to. So we're 150 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: gonna see if they get to the call. 151 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 6: There. 152 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: We've got the White House briefing today and we're supposed 153 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: to JD. Vans is gonna be talking about MA and 154 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: thank goodness, because this is something that connects and works, 155 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: and it's a pretty important piece heading into the midterms. 156 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: And if President Trump wants to talk about lowering costs, 157 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: this is one of the ways to do it. Even 158 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: though I may not be okay with the idea that 159 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: government is using some level of force and tell health 160 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: insurance companies to do x Y and Z or drug 161 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: manufacturers to do X Y and Z. 162 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: What people are gonna say is the fact shot costs less. Wooo'. 163 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: That's what they're gonna say. And I'm assuming they're gonna 164 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: go wooo that. I believe that's what's going to be said. 165 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: So I've got all that coming up, and if we 166 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: start hearing and seeing a vote in the House, I 167 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: will bring it to you. 168 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: Keep it here. 169 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today. I 170 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: am fully aware that The New York Times is pushing 171 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: a story in emails regarding Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, and 172 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: I am fully aware that people who never listen to 173 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: this show, never listen to this show. 174 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: Tony Katz Tony Katz today, what's going on? Everybody? 175 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: Glad you're here. Good to be with you. I am 176 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: smoking from Oliva or is it Oliva? The Master Blend three, 177 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: the Churchill right here? This soft box press, which is 178 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 2: really more kind of an oval. I had my first 179 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: one yesterday, my second one today, my third one coming 180 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: up soon. These emails, and these emails where Epstein is 181 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: allegedly emailing, I think it's Julie Maxwell, who's the one 182 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 2: in jail who procured the young girls for Epstein and 183 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: his client base. And how allegedly Trump had spent time 184 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: with a victim and nobody had said anything and done anything, 185 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: and he hasn't mentioned anything, etc. I have not read 186 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: the story yet. That story came out today. I have 187 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: not gone through it yet. I've seen what is the 188 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: alleged email. I have stated on this show from the beginning. 189 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: I want the Epstein files. I have an entire history 190 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: live streams. You can go back and check YouTube dot 191 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: com slash Tony Katz. I absolutely want the files. When 192 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 2: President Trump said, well you want the files for the 193 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: files don't matter? Could we all please be focused on 194 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: things that matter. This doesn't matter, I said that President 195 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: Trump was wrong. 196 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: He was. 197 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: On my morning show just today wrong about Epstein, and 198 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: certainly wrong was President Trump. We'll get into it regarding 199 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: H one B visas and students from foreign countries going 200 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: to universities right here in the United States. The Epstein 201 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: thing was a very rare miss for the president, but 202 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: he missed, and you. 203 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 3: Had people immediately coming to his defense. 204 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: Hey, President Trump says, we shouldn't care about this, we 205 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: shouldn't care about this. Well, you're wrong. I don't care 206 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: how big of a radio host you are. I don't 207 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: care how big of a so called influencer you are. 208 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: You're flat out wrong. Of course we should be paying 209 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: attention to this, and of course this matters. 210 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: To say all of a sudden, it doesn't matter. 211 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: Hey man, you're gonna need a different kind of idola 212 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: or I don't play that way. 213 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: And so people are not sending me these things, Well, 214 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 3: what about this? What about that? Tony? What I am 215 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: on record? 216 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: I don't worry about what people send me on social media. 217 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: By the way, now that jew, I want the Epstein files, 218 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: and I want them now. We haven't released enough, not 219 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 2: at all. And I don't care what your last name 220 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: is and I don't care how much money you have. 221 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: If you're involved in abusing children, you need to go 222 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 3: to jail. 223 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: I do agree with the people who say if they 224 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: had stuff on Donald Trump, they would have released it already. 225 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: How in the world does an email like this come 226 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: out now? It didn't come out to try and keep 227 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: them out of my office? Are you we magically only 228 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: found now? It's hard to believe. It's hard to engage 229 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 2: that way. So there we are on Epstein. I have 230 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: not gone through the New York Times article yet, which 231 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: it's the New York Times. The grains of salt that 232 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: you would need in only the fry guy at MacDonald's 233 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: has more grains. 234 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 3: Of sault that you would need to read a New 235 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: York Times article and believe it just because it's in. 236 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: The New York Times. Need to go over it, need 237 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: to look into it. So I have not had the 238 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: chance yet. I'm fully aware that it's out there. I 239 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: want the Epstein files and anybody associated with the abusing 240 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: of children needs me in jail. I don't give a 241 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: damn who they are, who their daddy is doesn't mean 242 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: a thing to me. Abby Phillip went on with Joy 243 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: Reid now Abby Phillip is the one who hosts the 244 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: show there on CNN, and that show it is only 245 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: worthwhile because Scott Jennings is a revelation. Scott Jennings and 246 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: his ability to just push back every bit of nonsense 247 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: that the political left puts forward, and they put forward 248 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: a tremendous, tremendous amount of nonsense. I mean it is, 249 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: it is very impressive. Here, I'll give you an example. 250 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: This took place on the that Abby Phillips show. Check 251 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: this out right here. 252 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 7: He has put Trump has put you in a very 253 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 7: difficult position because if my colleagues have said here right, 254 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 7: if Joe Biden or any other Democrat would have said this, 255 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 7: you'd be like, that's ridiculous. 256 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 8: I don't know you very well, but I can assure 257 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 8: you that the condition of Donald Trump being the president 258 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 8: versus Joe Biden in no way, shape or form sucks 259 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 8: for me or Jim Well, well, I. 260 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 7: Think it's I think it's quite difficult to defend somebody 261 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 7: who puts you in a position of saying we should 262 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 7: put somebody else besides America's, especially when he's just it's 263 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 7: the dollars to bail out Argentina. 264 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 4: I think it. 265 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 8: First of all, it was a currency swap which we 266 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 8: made a profit on. Number two, it's quite easy for 267 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 8: me to be perfectly comforted with the President of the 268 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 8: United States, who's presiding over a broad coalition that does 269 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 8: have disparate views. 270 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: The previous administration. 271 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 8: You don't even you could consider and tell me who 272 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 8: the hell was in charge. 273 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: I know who's in right, and I'm not going to 274 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: defend it. I'm not sitting here to defend that. 275 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: It seems like you are. It seems like you are. 276 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: When I say that Scott Jennings is incredible at his job, 277 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: he is. 278 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: But this was Abby philip On with Joy read. Let 279 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: us begin. 280 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 9: Conservatives are living in a completely different information world, absolutely liberals, 281 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 9: and breaking that down needs to be done because when 282 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 9: you don't ever even hear the facts, it's hard to 283 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 9: even know that you're wrong, and that happens a lot. 284 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 9: I mean, half my job sometimes is knowing what the 285 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 9: latest conspiracy is so that if it comes up, I'm 286 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 9: ready to address it, because it happens a lot where 287 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 9: people don't even know that what they're saying or what 288 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 9: they've seen and believe is not true. And so that 289 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 9: happens a lot, and I don't come away from that saying, 290 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 9: what's the point of this? People are just saying false things. 291 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 4: I think that. 292 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 9: One time that that person brings up something that is 293 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 9: debunked and false and I debunk it at the table 294 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 9: might be the very first time that sayone out there 295 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 9: has heard an alternative point of view. 296 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: It's conservatives who aren't engaged in facts. Huh hey, Barry Weiss, 297 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: it now might be a good time to make another 298 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: run on Scott Jennings to come on over to CBS News, 299 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: because he shouldn't stick around. If you want to make 300 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: the argument that the facts exist somehow solely and exclusively 301 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: with the political left, you can, But we all know 302 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: that that's not true. And this idea that somehow the 303 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 2: political right isn't dealing with reality is equally not true. 304 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: And the fact that Abby Philip is saying the goal 305 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: of my show quasi what she's saying, the goal of 306 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: the show is to expose the truth to the political right. Okay, 307 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: we're done. Honestly, I'm impressed she said it, because I 308 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: didn't actually know what the goal of the show was. 309 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 2: But if that's the goal of the show, my gosh, 310 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: she's not doing it because the only reason anybody watches 311 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 2: is for Scott today an. 312 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 3: Appalachia not only for poor health. 313 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 6: It's got the worst health data of any region the country. 314 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 10: The highest cardiactacies, obese, the highest diabetes, the highest stroke rates, 315 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 10: but also addiction, alcoholism. 316 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 11: And suicide. 317 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 4: It leads the nation for those things. 318 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: And so I know it's something that you've spent a 319 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: lot of time thinking about, how do we because if 320 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: we can. 321 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 6: Solve problems in Appalachia, we can solve them for the 322 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 6: whole country. 323 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. 324 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 12: In the public health stuff in particular is very bad, 325 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 12: and if you look at where life expectancy has gotten 326 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 12: the worst in the United States, Appalachia is sort of 327 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 12: at the top of the list. And the way that 328 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 12: I realize this actually, so my dad died of cancer 329 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 12: a few years ago, and it was one of these 330 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 12: sort of super aggressive cancers, came on very unexpectedly, and 331 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 12: then you know, all of a sudden, he was he 332 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 12: was gone a few months later. But I was talking 333 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 12: too with my wife with Usha about this, and Usha 334 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 12: she was like, have you ever had like a really 335 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 12: important male figure in your life survived at the age 336 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 12: of seventy like so, and I'm looking at I'm like, Okay, 337 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 12: my grandfather died at sixty seven from a very preventable illness, 338 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 12: but sixty seven from a very preventable, very treatable illness. 339 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 12: I think all of my aunts or all of my uncles, 340 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 12: and not a single one of them that I could 341 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 12: think of, made it to sixty nine. Maybe one of 342 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 12: them made it to seventy or seventy one. 343 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: And Robert F. 344 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior, speaking at an event the MAHA Summit in DC, 345 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 346 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: This is the kind of stuff that is very very 347 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 3: hell well. 348 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: This is the kind of stuff that connects with the 349 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: American people. Make America healthy again is successful. People see it, 350 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 2: they want to be a part of it, they want 351 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: it for their kids. 352 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: These are good things. So the importance of this. 353 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: It also fits in with the idea of lowering costs 354 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: in general, but creating better outcomes and better outcomes. 355 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 3: For everybody. Better outcomes. 356 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: For poor Americans, better outcomes for rich Americans, better outcomes 357 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: all the way around. 358 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 3: And that's a winning, winning argument. 359 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 4: You know a person that they fall in love. 360 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: That is a very clear winning argument and one. 361 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: That needs to be better addressed by the administration. Oddly enough, 362 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: I can't even believe him saying the words more RFK 363 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 2: in every single way, more Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Because 364 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: the arguments that he's making are much better arguments. They're winners, 365 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: and this administration needs some winning arguments. There was a 366 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 2: lot of talk and we shared this about some polling 367 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 2: that came out the other day. And the polling that 368 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 2: came out the other day was about President Trump and 369 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: the economy. 370 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: And it not being great. 371 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: And I believe this to be true, that people see 372 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 2: the economy is not great. The polls, however, say to me, 373 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: not something that's terminal. Well, the midterms are lost, but no, 374 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: something that is very much convertible. First, you have to 375 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: be able to sell your story. What prices have gone down, 376 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: gas prices, Why are you talking about it more? 377 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: What you're doing with a drugs or prescription drugs? Got 378 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: talked about that more. 379 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: But beef prices are out of control and you can't scream, well, 380 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: look what the beef producers are doing. What are we 381 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: doing to reduce inflation? What are we doing to reduce 382 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: regulation to make these things easier. 383 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: Show your work. It's really important. So President Trump. 384 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: Is not pleased about this, as you can imagine. Well, 385 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: over there at CNN, they note that President Trump is 386 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: not pleased about it. They're fully aware that he is 387 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: not pleased about it. So Harry Enton, who is their 388 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: numbers guy over there, takes to the television screen and says. 389 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: Hey, uh, don't get mad at me. 390 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: No, no, not at all. 391 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 6: And if I had one piece of advice to my 392 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 6: fellow fast food lover, it would be in the words 393 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 6: of Michael. 394 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: Jordan, stop it. Stop going after the polls. 395 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 6: You have a real problem because take a look here 396 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 6: Americans on inflation. You know, you go back to October 397 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 6: of twenty twenty four. Who did Americans trust more inflation, 398 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 6: Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. They trusted Donald Trump by 399 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 6: nine points on average. You jump over to this side 400 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 6: of the screen, those same exact poles have them way 401 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 6: way away underwater, twenty six points underwater, and his net 402 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 6: approval on inflation. So it's not that the polls are fake, 403 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 6: it's that the American people have turned against you. 404 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: Mister president. 405 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 6: You've gone from leading by nine points in inflation to 406 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 6: being twenty six points underwater. You're doing something very wrong 407 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 6: in the minds of the American public. 408 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 13: He negative twenty six. That's a problem. Yeah, it's a 409 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 13: huge problem. Let's go down this path of hypotheticals. Right, 410 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 13: if the pulling is off allah twenty twenty four, what 411 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 13: would that mean for the president? 412 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, exactly. So you see this switcheroo, right, going 413 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 6: from plus nine minus twenty six. That's a move of 414 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 6: over thirty points in the wrong direction. But let's say 415 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 6: the poles are off. 416 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: Let's take up. 417 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 6: Donald Trump on his hypothetical. Correct, Oh, the poles always 418 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 6: underestimate me. Well, here's Trump's not approval rating on inflation. Currently, 419 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,239 Speaker 6: He's twenty six points below order. If the poles are 420 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 6: off like they were in twenty twenty four, he still 421 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 6: got a titanic size problem. He's then twenty four points 422 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 6: underwater on inflation. So, yes, the poles underestimated him, but 423 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 6: just by about a. 424 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: Point and a half in twenty twenty four. 425 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 6: He would still have a massive, massive, massive problem on 426 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 6: inflation even if the poles were off like they. 427 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: Were a year ago. 428 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 2: Now, the story here is that this is surmountable and 429 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: it has to be addressed like that, this. 430 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: Is not well, it's over. 431 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: Oh what a foolhardy thing to say, foolhardy thing to 432 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 2: go out there and say and believe. But President Trump 433 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: took a swing and a miss the other day in 434 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 2: this interview with with Lour Ingram was really something else. 435 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: And all the kudos in the world to Laura Ingram 436 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: because she handled this with a plumb and she was 437 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: able to push back. 438 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: With a sophistication. 439 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: And one of the subjects was h one be visas 440 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: is never. 441 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 10: Going to be a country like what we have right now? 442 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 10: And does that Republicans have to talk about it? 443 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 14: And does that mean the h one be Visa thing 444 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 14: will not be a big priority for your administration. Is 445 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 14: if you want to raise wages for American workers, you 446 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 14: can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds. 447 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 10: Of eye And we also do have to bring in 448 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 10: talent when we've got to. 449 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 4: Be a talent and you know you don't. We don't 450 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: have talent. 451 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 10: No, you don't have you don't have certain talents. And 452 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 10: you have to people have to learn you can't take 453 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 10: people off an unemploied like an employment line and say 454 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 10: I'm going to put you into a factory, we're going 455 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 10: to make missiles. 456 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: Or why did we ever do it before? Well, i'll 457 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 3: give you an example. 458 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 10: In Georgia, they raided because they wanted illegal immigrants out. 459 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 10: They had people from South Korea that need batteries all 460 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 10: their lives. You know, making batteries are very complicated and 461 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 10: it's not an easy thing and very dangerous, a lot 462 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 10: of explosions. 463 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 4: A lot of problems. 464 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: They had like five. 465 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: Or six hundred. 466 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 10: People early stages to make batteries and to teach people 467 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 10: how to do it. Well, they wanted them to get 468 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 10: out of the country. 469 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: You're going to need that lure. 470 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 4: I mean, I know you and I disagree on this. 471 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 10: You can't just say country's coming in, going to invest 472 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 10: ten billion dollars to build a plant and going to 473 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 10: take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in 474 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 10: five years, and they're going to start making their missiles. 475 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 3: I don't disagree with the basic concept. 476 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: I disagree in large measure that you would say out 477 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 2: loud Americans Camp No, it isn't the totality of what 478 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: he said, but it's absolutely the thing that's going to 479 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: be remembered. It was a mistake. And when we talk 480 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: about that plant in Georgia, the Hyundaid plant, I. 481 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 3: Believe they were here illegally. 482 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: Why if they were so important to the to the 483 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: training of American workers, why would they be here illegally. 484 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: That's the issue. This is a miss from. 485 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: The president, but there was a greater miss and it 486 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: happened here. Wait a second, let me try that again. 487 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: Better. 488 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 14: Folks are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of 489 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 14: thousands of foreign students in the United States. We have 490 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 14: about three hundred and fifty thousand Chinese. At one point 491 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 14: during COVID you were going to you know, we'll push 492 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 14: you get them out, but that was pulled back. You've 493 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 14: said as many as six hundred thousand Chinese students could 494 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 14: come to the United States. Why, sir, is that a 495 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 14: pro maga position when so many American kids want to 496 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 14: go to school and there are places not for them, 497 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 14: and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money. 498 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 10: Sure, never said about China, but we do have a 499 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 10: lot of people coming in from China. We always have 500 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 10: China and other countries. We also have a massive system 501 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 10: of colleges and universities. And if we were to cut 502 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 10: that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy. You 503 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 10: would have half the colleges in the United States school 504 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 10: out of business. 505 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: Oh, I think that's a big deal. 506 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 2: Okay, Laura Ingram is right and the president is wrong. 507 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: There could be some people in magavill who say, how 508 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: dare you You're misrepresenting his words. No, if you believe 509 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: you should taking foreign students for the sake of keeping 510 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 2: universities in business, you're wrong. That isn't what we do. 511 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: I don't need the universities to be in business. I've 512 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: seen what they produce, and many of them don't produce 513 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: anything of value. We don't need that, and we certainly 514 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: shouldn't be keeping universities in business by propping them up 515 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: with foreign students, many of whom are not believers in America, 516 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 2: work against America's interests, and in the case of the 517 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: Communist Chinese have connections to the Communist Chinese Party. 518 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 3: Let me say it again for the people in the 519 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: cheap seats. 520 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: No one connected to the Communist Chinese Party should be 521 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: allowed to go to school in the United States. No 522 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: one connected to the Communist Chinese Party should allowed to 523 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: be owned land. They should shouldn't be allowed to own land, 524 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: They shouldn't be allowed to own a business in the 525 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: United States. 526 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: There's a national security issue here. 527 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: And I don't want to hear from anybody about how, 528 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: oh you're being anti Chinese, anti communists every day of 529 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: the week and twice on Sunday. I apologize to no one. 530 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: And if I have to tell you nose to nose 531 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: pick the street corner, I'm in. The President is wrong here. 532 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: You don't just allow people enjoy universities because some university. 533 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: Wants to be able to charge a full freight and 534 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 3: add of state tuition and all the rest. Stop it. 535 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 3: That's not an answer. 536 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: It's not an answer to say we need the H 537 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: one B visas because Americans can't do the job. 538 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 3: That's nutty. 539 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 2: If you want to offer some visas so we can 540 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 2: train Americans on specific things that were being done in 541 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: other countries, fine by me, a rational argument, and then 542 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: we train our people and then we train more Americans. 543 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: Isn't that the whole purpose? But this is not just 544 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: a miss. This is a massive miss. 545 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: It was a miss on the Epstein files and it's 546 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: a miss here. And I would argue that the MAGA 547 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: people are pretty upset about this. I think rational people 548 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: should look at this and say, this is a mistake, 549 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: an absolutely giant mistake from the president. 550 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: He missed here. He's just wrong. His advisors are wrong. 551 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear from anybody the administration talking 552 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: about well, you see what he's saying is. I don't 553 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: need anywhey to go back and explain it. He's wrong. 554 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: We should say so and not be afraid to say so. 555 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 2: I voted for President Trump. I feel I'm better off. 556 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: I feel that I still have better opportunities now than 557 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: I ever would have had with Joe Biden or whoever 558 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: was running the country at the time, and better opportunities 559 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: than Kamala Harris. Absolutely, when he makes a mistake, I 560 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 2: say so, And the people who say you can't say so, 561 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: pay no mind to them. This was a miss from 562 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: President Trump. He needs to correct this immediately. I'm Tony Katz, 563 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: and this is Tony Kats today. 564 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 6: We believe the long national nightmare will be over tonight. 565 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 6: It was completely and utterly fooled. 566 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: So you've got Mike Johnson, he's the speaker saying that. 567 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: Our long national nightmare will be over tonight. 568 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: Well, Okay, okay, I'd be happy to see the shutdown 569 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: beyond Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, great to be with you. 570 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: Ads for Representative of Cassio Cortes. 571 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 11: I think it's important that we understand that this is 572 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 11: not just about Senator Schumer, but that this is about 573 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 11: the Democratic Party and Senator Schumer. There's no one vote 574 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 11: that ended this shutdown. 575 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: We are talking about a coordinated. 576 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 15: Effort of AID senators, with the knowledge of Leader Schumer, 577 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 15: voting to write with the entire Democratic Party in exchange 578 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 15: for nothing and now people's healthcare costs. 579 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 3: Let me try and explain to you what just happened. 580 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: There, no way, I don't have to do I you 581 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: know exactly what. 582 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 6: You didn't need me. 583 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: Honestly, this is the best part of the day. You 584 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: didn't need me to tell you. What is it that 585 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: Representative Cassio Cortez said right here? 586 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: Right? What did she say right here? 587 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 11: I think it's important that we understand that this is 588 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 11: not just about Senator Schumer, but that this is about 589 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 11: the Democratic. 590 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: Party Senator Schumer. 591 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 11: There's no one vote that ended the shutdown. 592 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 15: We are talking about an coordinated effort of EID. 593 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 3: Senators with the knowledge of. 594 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 15: Leader Schumer voting to write with the entire Democratic Party 595 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 15: in exchange for nothing. 596 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: In case you don't know what it means, because I 597 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: know you do. 598 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: She's talking only about Senator Schumer, and she's running for 599 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: the Senate. She is blaming every bit of Democrats splitting 600 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: and not listening to their leader on Schumer. She's blaming 601 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: all this failure on Schumer. She's running for the Senate. 602 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: There is no question, zero question. She's doing this. And 603 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: by the way, don't say, oh, that's great. She's going 604 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 2: to be formidable. She's going to be an issue. You 605 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: got the White House Press briefing that is scheduled to happen, 606 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: and we might hear from Democrats angry before they go 607 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 2: vote in the House. 608 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Cox today.