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Speaker 2: Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 3: So let's baby an the cook rags the guys. He's

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Speaker 3: calling the college football flauf and.

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Speaker 2: I gotta get a mine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Howard Dean in there. I fell I was channeling

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Speaker 4: Listening to Voice of the Hoosiers Don Fisher, who was

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Speaker 4: on double duty yesterday, called the IU bats Saturday, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: Saturday called the basketball game. Then later on that night

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Speaker 4: the Big Ten Championship. That was amazing. By the way,

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Speaker 4: he's around late seventies eighty. I mean, doesn't sound a

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Speaker 4: just the best. I mean, I'll never in my life

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Speaker 4: was something to listen to the IU Radio network Hoosiers

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Speaker 1: He gets to go call the Hoosiers in a Rose

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Speaker 1: Bowl like nobody deserves that more after all the bad

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Speaker 1: I know there are some older IU football fans out there,

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Speaker 4: It's been a rough stretch for sure. But man, what

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Speaker 1: So we'll get back to that here in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: But it's a big day over at the Indiana Senate nights.

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Speaker 1: congressional maps. Now the House they passed this through last week.

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Speaker 1: It was the nine zero plan, which could in theory

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Speaker 1: bring two extra congressional seats to the Republican Party. Bring

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Speaker 4: I know there's lots of differing opinions on this radio station.

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Speaker 1: I say, bring it on. I'm with you. So now

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Speaker 1: Harris is neck and neck with Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton's

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Speaker 1: I live in Indianapolis. I live in Marion County, and

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Speaker 4: People think there's nothing unethical about what's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: The Dems do the same thing.

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Speaker 4: And if you want to sacrifice seats, and if you

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Speaker 1: Like Coach Steichen says, he believes it's season.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, you could see the frustration. You and

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Speaker 1: very cool of Danny Dimes to come back out on

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the good news. The good news

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Speaker 1: is that the Indiana Hoosiers are going to the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They will play January first against the winner of Alabama

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Speaker 1: How does that sound? It sounds so beautiful.

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Speaker 5: I want to give all the glory to God.

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Speaker 1: We're never supposed to be in the position. But by

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Speaker 4: Let's go flipping Champs Champs. I love it, man, I

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Speaker 1: Believes in his faith, believes in his teammates. And to

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Speaker 5: We're going to South Carolina in Oklahoma and Arizona, in

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the same vibes. Right, We're going to Oregon,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go to the victor Championship. Give me beat

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Speaker 1: the buck eyes. Yeah, that's the same speech. I'm here

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Speaker 1: for it. Making his debut on the Hammer in Nigel's Show, Nige,

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is the perfect place to have

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Speaker 6: A Hoosier will eat a whole garbage bag full of

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Speaker 6: We turned the violence up. Kurt Signetti's Hoosiers are Big

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Speaker 1: Ai Kurt Signetti here on the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 4: Hello, I'm Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with a

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Speaker 1: Yes, busy weekend downtown. You had basketball, you had football

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Speaker 1: holiday season. Let's talk about it with our bow Brynn

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Speaker 1: Jones of Hughes Culinary, one of the big gurus of

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Speaker 1: the marketing department, brend welcome back, and we were kind

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Speaker 1: of talking off the air. Yes, Indiana and Ohio State

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Speaker 1: patrons you guys went through this weekend was a pretty

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was a sea of red and athletics and

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Speaker 8: got to the football game. You couldn't tell if somebody

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Speaker 8: We have, Yeah, so huge culinary restaurant brands. So we

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Speaker 4: Think how many I couldn't have mentioned how many times

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Speaker 1: Big one and full disclosure. Hughes Culinary is an advertiser

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Speaker 1: with hammer In Nigel. We've been talking about the gift cards,

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Speaker 8: It's going, it's going, it's going great.

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Speaker 1: And I love watching people's reactions when they go to

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Speaker 8: So, yeah, this is a fun project that we've done

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Speaker 1: So cheers nobody on Indiana Hoosiers blowing out an Achilles

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Speaker 1: It's that's the hunt is holiday gift man. People have

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thank you for supporting us. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we absolutely you guys are fantastic. It's the Hammer and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my name is Nigel Jason and Hammer right over

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Speaker 1: He is a two A attorney, firearms instructor. Damn fine

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Speaker 1: American guy, Relford Guy. We're eating some Harry and Izzy's

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this first question, it's not necessarily a gun

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Speaker 7: there are several different issues, including whether or not a

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Speaker 7: defendant is competent to stand trial. That's much different than

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Speaker 7: an argument at sentencing to say that they shouldn't have

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Speaker 7: the death penalty for some reason related to mental health,

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Speaker 7: or even different than that. That's different than arguing not

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Speaker 7: guilty by reason of insanity, or separately, there's a different

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Speaker 7: potential sentence, which is guilty but mentally Yell. These things

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Speaker 7: are all different consideration. That's sentencing on whether or not

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Speaker 7: somebody gets a death penalty. That's not really what we're

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Speaker 7: talking about yet. In this case, what he's arguing is

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Speaker 7: that he's not competent to stand trial. Not competent to

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Speaker 7: stand trial doesn't mean the case gets dismissed. It doesn't

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Speaker 7: even influence the sentence at the end of the case

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Speaker 7: if he's found guilty. It's just a it's a procedural

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Speaker 7: step that's really required by the fourteenth Amendment and requirements

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Speaker 7: of due process US to say that a defendant must

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Speaker 7: be competent enough to understand the proceedings and assist their

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Speaker 7: attorney in their defense. Because if they if they're if

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Speaker 7: they're so out of it because of mental illness or

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Speaker 7: otherwise that they can't assist in their own defense and

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Speaker 7: understand the proceedings, then they're being deprived of their right

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Speaker 7: to affair trial under the fourteenth Amendment. So that's what

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Speaker 7: we're that's where we are now. Now. If he's found incompetent,

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Speaker 7: and you know, I read a couple of articles that

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Speaker 7: said that two out of three quarter pointed psychiatrists came

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Speaker 7: in and said, yeah, he's not competent to stand trial.

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Speaker 7: All that means at this stage of the proceedings is

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Speaker 7: that any trial would be put on hold. They pause

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Speaker 7: the proceedings and they send him in a secure facility,

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Speaker 7: so he's locked up. They send him for mental health treatment.

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Speaker 7: When they say he's currently incompetent, make him competent so

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Speaker 7: they can prescribe in medication. They do whatever other treatment

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Speaker 7: they they the doctors prescribed for, and they then take

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Speaker 7: the amount of time necessary to make him competent through

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Speaker 7: treatment and or prescriptions medication, and then they come back

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Speaker 7: once he's competent and put him on trial and he

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Speaker 7: goes he would as if the proceedings had not been paused.

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Speaker 7: That's different than not guilty by reason of insanity or

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Speaker 7: guilty but mentally ill. And it's different than what the

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Speaker 7: jury or the judge should consider on issues of sentencing.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad you broke it down that way because

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Speaker 1: it just looked like, from an outsider's perspective, we were

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Speaker 1: going down the slippery slope of every single cop killer

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Speaker 1: is going to say that they're not competent. So are

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Speaker 1: they going to escape the death penalty?

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Speaker 10: You know?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, No, what really is going to happen is he's

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Speaker 7: going to get sent off if he's found in competent. Now,

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Speaker 7: they may find him competent, because it's up to the

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Speaker 7: judge at the end of the day. Now he relies

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Speaker 7: heavily on expert testimony. But if they find him incompetent

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Speaker 7: to stand trial at this point again he just gets treated.

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Speaker 7: Then whether it's medication or otherwise, they send him back.

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Speaker 7: They have a trial. Now. He could also say, and

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Speaker 7: this is different. It's obviously related because it's related to

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Speaker 7: his mental health, but he could say I'm not guilty

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Speaker 7: by reason of insanity. That's a different standard completely. What

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Speaker 7: that means is not that he's not confident to stand trial.

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Speaker 7: It means that at the time of the offense, when

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Speaker 7: he shot Noah Shaan events that he either didn't understand

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Speaker 7: the nature of what he was doing and the consequences

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Speaker 7: of his actions, or he was incapable of controlling his

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Speaker 7: actions because of mental illness. And if that is the

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Speaker 7: determination at a trial, that's actually not guilty by reason

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Speaker 7: of insanity, which means by definition, he would not get

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Speaker 7: the death penalty. But it also doesn't mean he goes free.

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Speaker 7: That means they go through civil commitment proceedings where they

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Speaker 7: lock him up in a mental institution. Then separately, a

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Speaker 7: jury could find him guilty but mentally ill. That means

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Speaker 7: he goes to prison, but he gets mental health treatment

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Speaker 7: while he's in prison. So there are various outcomes once

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Speaker 7: a defendant raises their mental health, whether it's cot to stand,

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Speaker 7: competency to stand trial that's where we are now, or

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Speaker 7: at trial that they can go for not guilty by

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Speaker 7: reason of insanity. Now that to your first question, could

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Speaker 7: avoid the death penalty, and it also means you do

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Speaker 7: your time in a mental institution. If you're found not

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Speaker 7: guilty by reason of insanity, you don't do your time

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Speaker 7: in prison. You do it in a mental institution if

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Speaker 7: that's your preference, which most people would probably say yes.

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Speaker 7: So this will play out in a whole series of

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Speaker 7: different ways. But where we are now is in that

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Speaker 7: first stage of competency, which could just result in a delay,

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Speaker 7: not anything else.

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Speaker 1: Monday Gun Day with Guy Roelford, the gun Guy, here

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Speaker 1: at ninety three WIBC. So here's a headline that people

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Speaker 1: can take a couple different ways. Guys, mass murders down

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent in a year twenty twenty five. So

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Speaker 1: this is a headline where you're going to see like

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Speaker 1: Joe Hogg set and Ryan Meers doing victory lapse. Right,

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Speaker 1: mass murders down twenty five percent. Look how well liberal

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Speaker 1: cities are doing. But guy, there's another side to the

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Speaker 1: statistic as well, right.

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Speaker 7: Well there is, and but what's interesting to me is

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Speaker 7: this is a nationwide number, and we're talking about mass killings.

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Speaker 7: So you're talking about four or more people killed in

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Speaker 7: one incident. Now, these could be four gang bangers that

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Speaker 7: all are shooting, shooting each other up. It could be

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Speaker 7: a drive by people shooting into a party. It could

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Speaker 7: be a typical what we think of as as a

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Speaker 7: active shooter situation where somebody walks into a grocery store

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Speaker 7: or whatever and start shooting people. But anytime four people

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Speaker 7: die in one incident, and aha, that's a mass shooting.

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Speaker 7: And what's interesting to me is those numbers are down

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Speaker 7: year to year twenty five percent, and that's a heck

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Speaker 7: of a number. And to me, it coincides. I don't

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Speaker 7: put the credit for that in the hands of anyone

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Speaker 7: other than the fact that there are more law abiding

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Speaker 7: citizens walking around armed today than ever before, both because

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Speaker 7: more people have bought guns, also because more and more

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Speaker 7: states are going to constitutional carry, and also because since

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Speaker 7: the bruined decision by the Supreme Court, the mandated places

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Speaker 7: like New York and Hawaii and California and others drop

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Speaker 7: there may issue system for issuing licenses, that more and

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Speaker 7: more people have licenses to carry. So I think you're

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Speaker 7: seeing more and more law abiding citizens carrying guns, which

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Speaker 7: is why those mass shootings are down. Because we know

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Speaker 7: and It sounds like a cliche and people don't like

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Speaker 7: it because they attribute it to NRA, But it's fundamentally

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Speaker 7: true that the best way to stop.

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Speaker 2: A bad guy with a gun is a good guy

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Speaker 2: with gun with a gun.

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Speaker 7: And there are more good guys with guns out there,

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Speaker 7: and good ladies out there armed able to stop these

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Speaker 7: things before they happen, just like happened in the Greenwood

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Speaker 7: pork mall right here in the Indianapolis area. So I

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Speaker 7: think that's what you're talking about is bad guys don't

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Speaker 7: know who's armed, don't know who can pull a gun

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Speaker 7: from concealment and stop what they're intending to do before

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Speaker 7: they accomplish their objectives. That's going to dissuade people from

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Speaker 7: going down that road to begin with. Or like we

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Speaker 7: saw in Greenwood, you could end up in a disruption

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Speaker 7: before we even reach those numbers.

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Speaker 1: All right, guy, we're up against it here. But I

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Speaker 1: do want to play one more SoundBite here. I want

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Speaker 1: to play audio from Erica Kirk, Charlie Kirk's widow, who

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Speaker 1: was part of a panel discussion recently, or I should say,

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Speaker 1: was on stage doing a discussion about still being a

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Speaker 1: Second Amendment supporter even after the murder of her husband.

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Speaker 10: I wouldn't wish upon anyone what I have been through,

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Speaker 10: and I support the Second Amendment as well.

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Speaker 9: I do. And what I've realized through all of this

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Speaker 9: is that you can have you can have individuals that

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Speaker 9: will always resort to violence.

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Speaker 2: And what I'm afraid of is that.

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Speaker 10: We are living in a day and age where they

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Speaker 10: think violence is the solution to them not wanting to

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Speaker 10: hear a different point of view. That's not a gun problem,

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Speaker 10: that's a human, deeply human problem.

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Speaker 1: Guy, we got about thirty seconds. I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: get your reaction to that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was so glad to see her say that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, someone who's been the victim here, the political

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Speaker 7: assassination of her husband would be very easy for her

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Speaker 7: to shift review on the Second Amendment. So I was

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Speaker 7: just I'm a fan of her. She catches a lot

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Speaker 7: of grief from a lot of directions. I'm a fan

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Speaker 7: of hers, and I was really glad to hear her

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Speaker 7: say that. I think that's exactly the right message.

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Speaker 1: If somebody wants to become a client of yours, or

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Speaker 1: maybe they've got questions, maybe they want to be trained,

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Speaker 1: you're a trainer of firearms. How can they find you?

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Speaker 11: Would?

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Speaker 7: Contact me through Twitter? Man, give me a follow while

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Speaker 7: you're on there. It's just at Guy Ralford on x

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Speaker 7: or Twitter at Guy Ralford.

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Speaker 1: Guy, you're the best. We appreciate you, brother.

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Speaker 7: Sure, guys, thanks so much.

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Speaker 4: My name is Nigel Jasonhammer right over there with a

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Speaker 4: very special surprise.

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Speaker 1: It's not Thursday. What the hell's going on around here?

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Speaker 1: Rob Kendall from the Kendall and Casey Show is here.

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Speaker 1: So you just sauntered over here from the Indiana State House.

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Speaker 1: Good lord, you've been over there all day.

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Speaker 12: Greatest two minutes of those senators' lives.

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Speaker 1: I just tell them, here's a joke I can make

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Speaker 1: about your better half in there, but I'll refrain. So

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Speaker 1: what were you doing today? What kind of ruckus were

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Speaker 1: you causing over there?

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Speaker 11: So?

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Speaker 13: Today was the Senate Elections committees hearing on the redistricting bill.

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Speaker 13: So there are nine of them. They've got to make

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Speaker 13: a choice on whether they're going to move this out

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Speaker 13: of committee, and it appears to be three undecideds right

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Speaker 13: now who are ultimately going to kind of make that call. Now,

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Speaker 13: a movement out of committee doesn't mean it's going to

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Speaker 13: pass the full Senate, or even that these senators would

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Speaker 13: vote it up when it went to the full day.

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Speaker 12: That's correct.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so there was I think they said the number

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Speaker 13: was one hundred and twenty seven people who signed up

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Speaker 13: to talk, and I think I was about number fifty two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when you knowing how you know state lawmakers

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Speaker 1: feel about you, when you walk up there and you're

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Speaker 1: walking through and you're through security and you're walking up

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Speaker 1: to the podium, who all gave you a side one?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: It was like John Wilkes Booth had walked into the room.

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Speaker 13: Here's the thing, I told these guys. Here he comes, right,

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Speaker 13: he's going to flame these guys.

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Speaker 12: It's going to be off the rails.

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Speaker 1: I didn't go with that.

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Speaker 13: I just simply said, because you got two minutes, they're

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Speaker 13: very strict on the time the buzz and cut you off.

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Speaker 13: It's not going to give that guy the thrill of

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Speaker 13: buzzing me or cutting me off.

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Speaker 12: So I just said, look this.

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Speaker 13: The maps right now are almost identical to the maps

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Speaker 13: that Todd roketa slight slight switch for slift shift for

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Speaker 13: population ships, but identical to the maps Todd Roketo when

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Speaker 13: he was Secretary of State, proposed in twenty ten. I

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Speaker 13: believe it's called rethinking redistricting, in which his goal was

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Speaker 13: to take the partisanship out of politics and create maps

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Speaker 13: that actually represent constituents constituencies, because that's the job of

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Speaker 13: the representative, not to represent Democrats or Republicans, but very

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Speaker 13: small pockets of people relative to the size of this

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Speaker 13: entire country, and be a voice for like minded people.

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Speaker 12: Have said, your maps, you have right now already do that.

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Speaker 1: So how many years ago was that when that conversation

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Speaker 1: was taking place.

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Speaker 12: It was twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: And this was sort of because I would argue the

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Speaker 1: game has changed since twenty ten, Like, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: the game has changed. You might like it, you might

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Speaker 1: not like it, but it's all about impeachment. It's all

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Speaker 1: about bull crap. So again, you and I are on

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Speaker 1: different sides of this, and we can have civil debate

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Speaker 1: about it. But I think it's a whole new ballgame

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Speaker 1: now that it was in twenty ten.

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Speaker 13: Well, so I had this conversation late in the afternoon,

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Speaker 13: a lady came up to me and said, in her

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Speaker 13: all Trump garb and said, I'm very disappointed in you,

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Speaker 13: and I.

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Speaker 1: Said, well, that line's long, get in it, mom, what

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Speaker 1: are you doing here?

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Speaker 13: And then they started on this all. They started on

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Speaker 13: this whole thing about well, are you a Democrat?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 13: I said no, I believe in holding people accountable, whether

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Speaker 13: they're Republicans or Democrats. I said the same thing about

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Speaker 13: Trump adding five trillion to the debt that I said

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Speaker 13: when Biden was doing it. Then I said, when Trump

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Speaker 13: did it in twenty twenty. We have to be able

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Speaker 13: to look at ourselves and go, why is everything so expensive?

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Speaker 13: Everything's so expensive because we have turned on especially since

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Speaker 13: George W. Bush forward, this money printing press that makes everything,

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Speaker 13: makes inflation skyrocket, the cost of living. What have the

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Speaker 13: Republicans done the past eleven months that you'd say, my

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Speaker 13: life is so much better off.

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Speaker 12: Now you can say, hey, the border's more secure. I'm

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Speaker 12: not going to dispute that.

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Speaker 13: But are we just saying that our standard is well Biden,

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Speaker 13: but with a better border, because economically, that's what you've got.

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Speaker 4: What I asked the governor of this when he was

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Speaker 4: in here sipping a Miller Light with us in the studios.

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Speaker 12: Shotgun that beer.

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Speaker 1: He did not.

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Speaker 11: I did not.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe there was a shot cunning involved with

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Speaker 1: a pen and then hold it up and crush it.

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Speaker 4: And this might be a naive question, but I said, Okay,

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Speaker 4: So if the Senate votes it through and it all

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Speaker 4: gets passed and it's it's yeah, we can do this

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Speaker 4: redrawing of the maps, is it guaranteed that it's pretty

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Speaker 4: much n I oh.

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Speaker 13: No, I think I think that district, you know what

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Speaker 13: I mean, mrvan is In is that first Congression district

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Speaker 13: is still a toss up. My issue is when you

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Speaker 13: look at these maps, right, do you talk about things

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Speaker 13: like the representative representation should be based on geography, commerce,

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Speaker 13: time zones, like minded communities of interest, so that when

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Speaker 13: you go to Washington, you're representing a group of people

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Speaker 13: that share points of commonality. You've got districts under this

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Speaker 13: map that start in Indianapolis and they stretch all the

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Speaker 13: way to the southern or eastern border, which means you're

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Speaker 13: gonna have really rich guys like Jefferson Shreve come in

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Speaker 13: because Indianapolis will be a big part of these districts

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Speaker 13: because of the population.

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Speaker 12: And they're just gonna buy the seats.

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Speaker 13: And what I keep asking people is, can anyone tell

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Speaker 13: me how jeff Two more Jefferson Shreves makes your life

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Speaker 13: any better?

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Speaker 1: Two more Jefferson Shreves. I don't know if it's any better,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's better than one Andre Carson. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's a better chance that you could

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Speaker 1: primary like one of these Jefferson Shreves out, Like the

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Speaker 1: Republicans have been known to primary somebody out. I feel

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Speaker 1: like there's a better chance of that happening than Andrey

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Speaker 1: Carson losing his seat because he's done nothing, Like he

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Speaker 1: hasn't made my life better. Truth be told, citizens of

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis may be worse off with him.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's no.

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Speaker 13: Doubt he's a turd. But this is what we talked

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Speaker 13: about this in Not the Rails last time. The Republicans

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Speaker 13: misbehave every time they get in office. Every time they

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Speaker 13: promise all the spending, the corruption, the crony capital, we

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Speaker 13: get all the center control. It never changes. When your

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Speaker 13: kids were growing up, if they misbehaved, were you like, uh,

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Speaker 13: here's candy and a trip to King's Island, great job,

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Speaker 13: draw on the wall somewhere. No, you had to punish them,

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Speaker 13: and the Republicans until you punish them and hold them

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Speaker 13: accountable for lying, because that's what they do. Look in Indiana,

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Speaker 13: property taxes, never hire, gas tax never hire, utility bills,

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Speaker 13: never hire. The IEDC is a walking, talking corruption machine

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Speaker 13: where they take money from us and give it to

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Speaker 13: these connected people who give back to the donors. If

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Speaker 13: these were Democrats doing this, we'd go ballistic. But because

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Speaker 13: I say it about a Republican, some lady at at

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Speaker 13: a government of that comes up and say she's disappointed

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Speaker 13: in me.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I've heard you say on your

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Speaker 1: show is that if this new drawn map comes to Fruition,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be parts of Marion County that have the

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Speaker 1: same representatives as somebody down by the Ohio River. And

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Speaker 1: I've heard you ask what do these people have in common?

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Speaker 1: I think we've got more in common than you think, though,

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Speaker 1: Rob like I'm a bit of a hic. I live

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Speaker 1: in Marion County. Bit okay, we can take the bit

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Speaker 1: out of there, Liz fun I are one. I feel

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Speaker 1: like we've probably got more in common than you think, though.

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Speaker 13: Well on some levels if you share a point of

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Speaker 13: commonality in terms of your political leanings. But again it

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Speaker 13: comes back to the representative and you look at the

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Speaker 13: way the founders set the country up because they railed

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Speaker 13: against the idea of politics and political parties. But the

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Speaker 13: representatives are supposed to represent the people. And really the

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Speaker 13: crux of this is you're going to havev Jacob Stewart

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Speaker 13: from the Indie Star War a great column about this

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Speaker 13: last week. You're going to ice out rural Indiana if

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Speaker 13: you draw these maps this way. Indianapolis because of the

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Speaker 13: way those maps are drawn, are going to control everything

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Speaker 13: and no offense to people in Indianapolis. May find people

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Speaker 13: in Indianapolis, but the Marion County GOP are the same

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Speaker 13: people who gave us people like Eric Holcombe. Do you

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Speaker 13: really want to hand that over to those people? And

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Speaker 13: they just feel like they can take anything whenever they

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Speaker 13: don't earn it.

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Speaker 1: Rob Kendall with us this Friday wibc's radiothon to benefit

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Speaker 1: the Salvation Army. We're in a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: contest here, like I didn't sign up for this, but

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Speaker 1: management said, all right, we have these virtual online kettles.

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Speaker 1: Rob Kendall has one, Homan Garden Show has one, and

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Speaker 1: we have one. Now I'm gonna set Homan Garden Show

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Speaker 1: to the side because I don't hate them, but I

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Speaker 1: hate Rob like I don't want to lose the Rob

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Speaker 1: so at WIBC dot com. Right now, Fans of Robs

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Speaker 1: can make a donation to his virtual kettle. Fans of

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Speaker 1: ours can make a donation.

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Speaker 4: We have sponsors that will, like Galaxy Concrete will double those.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Galaxy Concrete and Wind Donation are sponsors for these

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Speaker 1: virtual kettles. And it all stays here in Central Indie.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give you your elevator pitch. Why should

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Speaker 1: somebody donate to your virtual kettle and not ours?

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Speaker 12: Well, look, right, a huge disadvantage because we're on the

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Speaker 12: midday show.

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Speaker 1: But like Kurtzi, hold on, hold on, let me get

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Speaker 1: my violin out here, let me start playing that sad violin.

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Speaker 13: Saying the reality here. But but we overcame all odds,

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Speaker 13: like Kurt Signetti, I win. Google me A couple of

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Speaker 13: years ago, Kenvill and Casey show against all odds did win.

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Speaker 12: Now, you guys won last year, I think, is that right?

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Speaker 13: You guys were the top of all the Salvation Army donations. Yes,

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Speaker 13: And it was just miserable to hear.

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Speaker 12: Myself be insulted.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I think as you guys were winning even

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Speaker 13: though we raised a gajillion dollars, you guys were just

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Speaker 13: being heinous. I was driving to an event and I

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Speaker 13: had to hear myself just by spending the whole day

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Speaker 13: raising money for charity, being told a rotten person I was,

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Speaker 13: and you were utilizing that to win the game. And

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Speaker 13: I just think that's very unfair.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere, Senator Jim Banks is going welcome to the party.

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Speaker 4: Bow.

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Speaker 1: Now you know how it feels. You know what you

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Speaker 1: guys should do.

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Speaker 13: You should be on that selection committee for the NCAA

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Speaker 13: College Football Playoffs. Yeah, Yo, y'all would fit right in

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Speaker 13: there with those guys. Yeah, but it's a great cause.

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Speaker 13: Whoever wins, it's wonderful. I'd hate to have to hear

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Speaker 13: myself being besmirched again. So if you're a fan of

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Speaker 13: what we do nine to noon each day, please donate

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Speaker 13: WWC dot com.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, here's what I would like to ask you

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Speaker 1: on the spot here ahead of this Friday. So this Friday,

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Speaker 1: we're all doing our shows out at Sullivan's. For a

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Speaker 1: radio thought, if somebody comes up with five hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: minimum of five hundred dollars, can I call you on FaceTime?

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Speaker 1: And let them yell at you. Oh totally okay, so

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Speaker 1: they can look at you in the face. Now, I'll

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Speaker 1: die it so they won't know the number, and I'll

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Speaker 1: hold the phone up and then they can tell you

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Speaker 1: what a no good, rotten you know, establishment weasel you

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Speaker 1: really are.

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Speaker 12: Now, I thought for five hundred dollars, because that's a

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Speaker 12: nice donation.

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Speaker 13: Maybe for five grand they get a date with Allison

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Speaker 13: and she dresses up like your AI mean, with the Grinch.

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Speaker 13: Ohh what's coming up tomorrow? Oh man, we're gonna review

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Speaker 13: this whole thing. Ethan Hatcher was there as well, talk

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Speaker 13: about the test right. I mean, it was a wild day.

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Speaker 13: I mean there's just people are so passionate on both sides.

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Speaker 13: Everybody was pretty well behaved, but a wild day at

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Speaker 13: the State House. Will recap it tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Nine to noon. You guys are the best, and Alison.

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Speaker 12: You're a saint for dealing with these guys.

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Speaker 1: That's Rob Kendall, the Kendall and Casey's show, Nigel presents.

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Speaker 1: It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

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Speaker 1: Is this anything?

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Speaker 4: It is brought to you by Indiana unclaimed to presented

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Speaker 4: by the Attorney General's Office, here in Indiana reunited Hoosiers

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Speaker 4: with over one million dollars in unclaimed property every single week, fast,

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Speaker 4: easy and free to search at Indiana Unclaimed Doug Gov.

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Speaker 1: Is this anything Baltimore County fire employee, respected member of

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Speaker 1: the community. Yes, it's being investigated for allegedly flogging the

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Speaker 1: dolphin in public spaces at the firehouse. Public spaces at

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Speaker 1: the firehouse. Now, when I say flogging the dolphin, treating

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Speaker 1: his body like an amusement park, polishing the bishop, bopping

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Speaker 1: the boloney. Yes, here are a couple of councilmen on

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Speaker 1: the allegation. They found out from firefighters and paramedics. They

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Speaker 1: obviously are very concerned about their public health and safety.

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Speaker 2: I've been on the council for fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: This is probably the most disturbing series of allegations I've

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Speaker 1: ever heard.

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Speaker 14: I've never heard of anything like this, and I've dealt

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Speaker 14: with more personnel issues, more problems than you can imactine,

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Speaker 14: and nothing bizarre and as grotesque as this.

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Speaker 1: Hammer.

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is something, and they initiated has met cleaning

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Speaker 4: of everything there at the firehouse, like lockers, kitchens, bunk rooms. Oh,

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Speaker 4: all the ice machines were replaced. Oh so they must

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Speaker 4: have had some sort of proof that he was spraying things. Now,

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Speaker 4: trying to think of the most radio safe way to

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Speaker 4: say that.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's something And I don't get it. Why can't

871
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: people just be normal?

872
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: Okay, But here's what I have a problem with. Okay,

873
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: so I'm not condoning what this guy did. He's a

874
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: total weirdo. All right, Fine, if you have to do that,

875
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: do it when you get home. But hearing, like fire

876
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: employees say, in my fifteen years, this was the most

877
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: disturbing thing I've ever seen. Not like a burned body,

878
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: not a burnt child, you know, somebody's dog that got

879
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: burned in a fire. This some weirdo cranking it in

880
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: the back room, spraying it on the ice machine. That's

881
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: the most disturbing thing you've seen as a firefighter. As

882
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: a medic, I'm willing to bet somebody dying is probably

883
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: way worse than that. Am I alone in thinking that?

884
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 7: Well?

885
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: Yeah apparently, because that's their opinion.

886
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's Baltimore County, Like I promise you, in Baltimore,

887
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: they've seen some things. They've seen injuries and you know, stabbings,

888
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: and burns and shootings. But the guy bopping his bloney,

889
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: this is the worst thing we've ever seen. Okay, I

890
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: don't believe you, uh, miss Allison, do we have any

891
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: mood music for this next one? Do you know the

892
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: song Garbage?

893
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 7: Right?

894
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

895
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: Shirley Manson, Well, Shirley Manson hot. Yeah, she was kind

896
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: of like like goth hot okay, like a goth baddie.

897
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 15: Yeah.

898
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 7: Sure.

899
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: So her band Garbage was performing at some outdoor show

900
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: in Australia and somebody in the crowd blew up a

901
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: beach ball and started, you know, hitting the beach ball round,

902
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: normal for a giant crowd, right in a concert. You

903
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: see it at concerts, you see it at the Indy

904
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: five hundred. But Shirley Manson freaked out and just choot

905
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: somebody out for getting the beach ball out. Oh god,

906
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: if you're a big beach ball. I'm so scared of you,

907
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: so thrilled by you. What asag?

908
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 11: What? Okay?

909
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: Literally makes me want to fig people to go over

910
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: there and punch you in the face. It's suspectful. Musicians

911
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: had enough.

912
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 4: I'm a phantom to play forducee fags like you.

913
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: You're a middle aged man and a ridiculous hat. I

914
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: literally want to ask people to punch you in the face.

915
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: The crowd turned on her, by the way, when she

916
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: was advocating violence for the guy that blew up the

917
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: beach ball, and who wants to hear a longtime, highly

918
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: paid artist complained about how much they're being paid?

919
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 11: Right?

920
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: Did you hear that in there? It wasn't like they

921
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: blew up a sex doll and started, you know, passing

922
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: that around. It was a beach ball. What's wrong with her? Here? Okay?

923
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: So I've got an update? Oh the.

924
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 4: The next day hammer she apologized. Here's the beach ball update.

925
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: She well, she kind of apologized to the crowd.

926
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: Very very good.

927
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 12: The only thing that kind of sucks me a little

928
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 12: is that's been more sneak about re offending beetles and

929
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 12: it has like twenty thousand Palissinians.

930
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: I would just like it actually is important in this Okay,

931
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: you can stop? How can you?

932
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 4: How can you criticize me about advocating violence and complaining

933
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: about a beach ball and beating the guy up that

934
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 4: blew up the beach ball? How can you even compare

935
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 4: that to twenty thousand Palestinian kids like the beach.

936
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: Ball rant was a little much, but then tying it

937
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 1: into the Palestinians, oh even more a little much. Okay,

938
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: it's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

939
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 4: For words, Hammer, Red White and Bowls go. Let's do it, baby,

940
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: Red White and Bowl presented by Jack Daniels. This is

941
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 4: our third annual Red White and Bowl there at Woodland

942
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: ninety six, a keystone raising money for veterans, and.

943
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: As of this morning I was told by the promotions department,

944
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: five full lanes have already been sold. Now there's six

945
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: people to a lane. You can buy a full lane

946
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: or you can buy individual tickets. Yeah, and we'll pair

947
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: you up with some other folks and we'll find a spot.

948
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: And listen, everybody's going to be there to have a

949
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: good time and hang out together, so we'll find a

950
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: spot for you if you have just two, three or

951
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: four people in your party. But you can also buy

952
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: a full lane of six and they're going pretty fast.

953
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: Tickets have barely been on sale for a week and

954
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: we've already sold five full lanes. So if you want

955
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: to come and be part of it, you could be

956
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: a serious bowler trying to win the thing, or somebody

957
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: that just wants to have beers with us and eat

958
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: the peace. It's a buffet. Buy your tickets right now

959
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: in WIBC dot guy.

960
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: Raising my hand for that option. I suck at bowling,

961
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 4: but it's so fun, man. The past two times we've

962
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 4: done this, it's been so fun.

963
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: Are you sure? Because you've said you hate bowling when

964
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: you were hammered drunk being driven home from the event.

965
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 4: Well, the reason I said is because I suck at it.

966
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 4: I don't hate it. I you know, i'd go with

967
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 4: my family and my kids, but I I'm horrible.

968
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: It's like being a Cleveland Browns football fan. Sure, I

969
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: hate football every Sunday when your team loses, although you

970
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: probably don't really hate football, you just hate not winning.

971
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, the event is Friday, January sixteenth at Woodland.

972
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: We're going to do our show there starting at three o'clock.

973
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: So if you just want to come by and tailgate

974
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: with us, and sometimes that's just as fun, man, get there,

975
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: hang out, grab a seat.

976
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can hailgate with us, and you can bowl too. Sure,

977
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 4: the official event starts right there's plenty of lanes open

978
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: that you can just go hang out.

979
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: I posted a Facebook video. So if you go to

980
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: the hammer In Nigel Facebook page, it's highlights of our

981
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: first Red White and Bowl a couple years ago, and

982
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: you'll kind of get the feel of how things work.

983
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: It's very laid back, very chill, a pizza buffet, three

984
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: hours of bowling, you get a drink ticket, and we're

985
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: going to give away some prizes. There's a silent auction

986
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: going on, and all of this is to raise money

987
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 1: for Hoo's, your veterans in need. We work with Bowling

988
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: the Veteran Support Link and man, this is a great organization.

989
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: So please buy your tickets before it sells out. I

990
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: think there's only like eleven full lanes left, and assuming

991
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: some people buy individual tickets, probably less than that. So

992
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: get your tickets right now before it sells out. It

993
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: makes a right Christmas gift. If there's somebody that's a

994
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: Hammering Nigel fan in your family, buy them a couple

995
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: of tickets to the Red White and Bowl event, and

996
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: I promise Nige and I will come by and have

997
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: some drinks with them. How about that?

998
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 4: Well, should we do the thing where I pay Rob

999
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: to take me home again and I live stream it.

1000
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: I think it's become a tradition. It's totally happened once.

1001
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: I think it needs to come back. I don't know.

1002
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm getting too old for that kind

1003
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: of thing. By the way, thanks to Saying Almo for

1004
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: bringing the whiskey in the studio. We've been sipping on

1005
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: all afternoon. But no seriously, Red white and bowl presented

1006
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: by Jack daniels Man. They pass out samples sometimes it's great.

1007
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: I promise you you're going to have a great time.

1008
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: Get your tickets right now at WIBC dot com. Is

1009
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,959
Speaker 1: this right? Hold on? What are you looking?

1010
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 5: Well?

1011
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: My god, Nigel, We're going to check in with wheeling, dealing,

1012
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: hair sniffing, kiss stealing, Joe Biden.

1013
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 11: I got Harry Lane.

1014
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 8: Take it fest where you're taking cocaine?

1015
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you ain't black. Just when you thought

1016
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: the old man was out the stud Just when you

1017
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: thought the old man was at the Shady Acres Retirement Home,

1018
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: I never thought he was out the stud He popped

1019
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: up on stage an event this past weekend. Nige, And

1020
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: would you like to hear Joe Biden speak about this

1021
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: great country of ours, the United States of America?

1022
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 11: Sure?

1023
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: Would you like to hear if maybe some time away

1024
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: from the office has made Joe Biden decompress, and he

1025
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: sounds a little bit more coherent than he did wild

1026
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: president here he is.

1027
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 6: As long as you keep the face someone hope, and

1028
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 6: get back up and remember who and who we are.

1029
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: We're the United States of americat it. I'm sorry? Where

1030
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: the where the who? The United States of America?

1031
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 11: It?

1032
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: Mary John Gotti?

1033
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 4: What what?

1034
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: In case you missed it, here's a little Joe Biden remix.

1035
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: We're the United States of amer got it?

1036
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 10: Mara got it?

1037
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 11: Mara got it? Got it.

1038
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: Living in amor got it. I would say that Joe

1039
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: Biden still got it, but it wasn't something you wanted

1040
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: in the first place.

1041
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 11: Wow.

1042
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: So he's still speaking, he's still who's inviting him publicly,

1043
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, being paid? Who canceled for that organization to say, ask,

1044
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: screw it, give us Biden. They probably thought, hey, are

1045
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: we gonna get George Clooney this year? He's hundreds of

1046
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars. I mean, honestly, are Beyonce no hell?

1047
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: Gave us Biden and his shuffles up there? You're not

1048
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: a stage of Marigotta. Okay, thanks for firing us up.

1049
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: All right, Alison, I want you involved in this too,

1050
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: because I know you enjoy some good stand up car

1051
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: got it. According to a new Billboard study Billboard Records

1052
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: Billboard Magazine, they've ranked the top stand up comedians of

1053
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: the twenty first century twenty first century stand up comics,

1054
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: coming in at number one, Dave Chappelle rounding out the

1055
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: top five, Chris Rock, Louis C. K, John Mullaney, and

1056
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: Bill Burr. Where was Seinfeld on that number six? Oh wow?

1057
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: Didn't make the top five. Kevin Hart was seven, Norm

1058
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: MacDonald was eight. Man go down the list of some

1059
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: more recognizable name James Robin Williams ten, Nate Bargatzi twelve,

1060
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler thirteen, Jim Gaffigan down at twenty two, John

1061
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: Stewart twenty five. So as you look at this list here, Nige,

1062
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: you're good with Dave Chappelle being number one.

1063
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: Well, any list that includes Wanda Sykes is immediately discredited

1064
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 4: in my book, Oh.

1065
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: She's at seventeen. Horrible. Wanda Sykes is above Jim Gaffigan

1066
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: and John Stewart.

1067
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 4: Norm McDonald should be in the top five. I understand

1068
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 4: why they have Dave Chappelle at number one. He's been

1069
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 4: the most talked about controversial comedian over the past five years.

1070
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm good with Chris Rock at number two. I love

1071
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: Chris Rock stand up. His Bring the Pain one from

1072
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: the late nineties one of the best of all time.

1073
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 4: I have not seen a Louis c Case stand up show,

1074
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 4: so I can't comment on that. I mean, I know,

1075
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 4: obviously the controversy with him and the me too stuff,

1076
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 4: but Cherry Seinfeld needs to.

1077
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: Be in the top five. So Alison, as someone who

1078
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: goes to see comics on the regular, you've seen a

1079
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: few comedy shows this year? You good with this list?

1080
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 15: I'm with you, guys. Chris Rock is a solid number two.

1081
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 15: Dave Chappelle's pretty good at number one. I would put

1082
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 15: Kevin Hart just a little higher because I feel like

1083
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 15: my generation really got into stand up comedy when his

1084
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 15: kind of special started going off, right.

1085
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Speaker 1: I feel like your generation is to Kevin Hart as

1086
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: to what mine was the Chris Rock.

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00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 15: I would say that's accurate.

1088
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I discovered a comedian named Kat Williams a couple

1089
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: of years ago, but you just.

1090
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: Discovered him well a couple of years ago, and his

1091
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: special been.

1092
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 4: Out for like a decade, hilarious, Holy God, almighty mind

1093
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 4: so funny.

1094
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 15: David Spade should have been on the top twenty five.

1095
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 1: Dude, his stand up very under.

1096
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 15: Underrae personally my favorite, but I would say for the

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00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 15: most part, obviously we have our favorites. I would say

1098
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 15: it's pretty strong.

1099
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,479
Speaker 1: I've never been a big Bill Burr guy, like Bill

1100
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: Burr's never really like done it for me. I would

1101
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: put Norm McDonald above Bill Burr. I'd put Kevin Hart

1102
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: above Bill Burr and Nate Burgotzi's kind of got that

1103
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: dry delivery. It's almost Norm McDonald like I think Brian

1104
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: Reagan hilarious.

1105
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 15: Steve Martin probably should have been in the top twenty five.

1106
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the twenty first century, right, But Robin

1107
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: Williams is in there at ten.

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00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1109
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, oh, that's interesting. I think if

1110
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: you're gona put Robin Williams in there, there's probably a

1111
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: place for some of those other guys too.

1112
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 15: Trevor Noah twenty three. I don't think that's.

1113
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 4: Never one show, never was maybe one stand up with him,

1114
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 4: not saying he's not funny, just never see it.

1115
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 15: Ali Wong's funny.

1116
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: Nate Bargotzi just added a second show to his Indianapolis

1117
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: concert coming up. Tickets went so fast he's going to

1118
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: do a special three pm show in addition to the

1119
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: seven pm. Yeah, so good for him. Wanted to get

1120
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: more people able to see his show. So he's like,

1121
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: you know what, screw it, We're going to go Vegas

1122
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: Residency here. We'll do a three o'clock and a seven.

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Speaker 1: I'm alright with that. It's the Hammer of Nigel Show.

1124
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: Nige question for you, sure, how often do you find

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00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: yourself watching adult cinema? Well, let me check my calendar.

1126
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: What time is it? I don't have an exact answer

1127
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: for you on that, Alison, when was the little Okay?

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00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: The reason I ask is there's a new report out

1129
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: that arm pit porn is the trendy fetish of twenty

1130
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: twenty five. People are searching arm pit adult cinema like

1131
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: armpit licking, sweaty arm. Yeah, there's some perverts out there.

1132
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: There was a lot of perfects, a lot of perfect

1133
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: thank you. But have you ever typed in anything odd?

1134
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: Perhaps not? Do you ever look for anything or is

1135
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: it just basic basic stuff?

1136
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 4: I'll admit this, I've never typed in armpit in the

1137
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: surge engine.

1138
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's all that's where the bar is. That's

1139
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: that's no armpit. And Allison, have you ever typed in anything? Okay?

1140
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: She doesn't even let you get the question.

1141
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 12: Now, Hammer and Nigel, do you believe these characters are weirdos?

1142
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Himmer, big hat tip to IMPD safety teams everywhere.

1143
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 4: This weekend emergency responders a lot of people in downtown Indie,

1144
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 4: and I think it was very successful with the IU

1145
00:59:54,320 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: basketball game followed by the Big Ten championship for football.

1146
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: If you're IU fan, the football game way more successful

1147
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: than the basketball game a little bit. But in terms

1148
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: of the city, we had talked, you know, I think

1149
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: last week about are the hotels going to sell out?

1150
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: You know, because it's two fan bases that live pretty

1151
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: close to Indy, sure that they could just drive if

1152
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: they wanted to, And it sounded like the hotels were

1153
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: almost sold out downtown this weekend. Yeah, so that's a

1154
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: good thing. That's a good thing. And it seems like downtown,

1155
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: at least the touristy parts, right we're talking about Meridian Street,

1156
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: Georgia's Street, you know, the areas where the restaurants and

1157
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: bars are seemed like everything went off without a hitch,

1158
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: but other parts of the city nige but not so good.

1159
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: Around Indianapolis from Friday through Sunday night, seven people shot,

1160
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: one stabbed, four killed. Now those are the numbers that

1161
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: have just been re ported to the police. I'm willing

1162
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: to bet there are probably more people shot, more people

1163
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: stabbed that the official police numbers don't know about yet.

1164
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: But four killed as a big number. And it seems

1165
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: like early in twenty twenty five homicide numbers are pretty low,

1166
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: like we were trending behind previous years. And that's a

1167
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: good thing because, as we say all the time, you're

1168
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: not supposed to set a record every year. No, But man,

1169
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: we've been on a bit of a heater last couple

1170
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: of months here in Indy and most of the year.

1171
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: In terms of comparing Indianapolis to Chicago and homicides per

1172
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: capita right factoring in the population, Indy has been outpacing

1173
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: Chicago anywhere from like seven to eleven percent. Give her

1174
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: tell me.

1175
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 4: Crazy is that Chicago, right compared to Indianapolis, where Chicago

1176
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 4: has millions of people living there. I mean, we've got

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01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 4: like eight nine hundred thousand people in Indianapolis, maybe million.

1178
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: That is nuts. Man, Well, you're ready for the new number,

1179
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: new numbers. You've got another number for me, new numbers.

1180
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: Courtesy of the Fraternal Order of Police. After this weekend,

1181
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: Indy is outpacing Chicago with homicides per capita by seventeen

1182
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: point nine percent. I believe this is the highest that

1183
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: it's been all year long. Seventeen point nine percent. So

1184
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: think about what you know about Chicago and how big

1185
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: of a city that is, and now think about Indianapolis

1186
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: and the population we have here. Once you take into

1187
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: account the population difference, Indy is seventeen point nine percent

1188
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: more violent in terms of homicides than Chicago. That's a

1189
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: big number, man, seventeen point nine percent. It's embarrassing, it is.

1190
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: It is embarrassing. And this end of the year has

1191
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: not been good. You haven't heard Boss hawk Set and

1192
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: Ryan Mere is going around doing those victory laps lately.

1193
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: Where are they? No idea, no idea.

1194
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 4: You can't do victory lapse when you have numbers that

1195
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 4: are comparable to Chicago per capita. Seventeen percent. Good god,

1196
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 4: So I'm sorry seventeen point nine percent.

1197
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Chicago is probably like, at least we're not

1198
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: Indianapolis at this point. Let that sink in. And we

1199
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: say this all the time, man, all those cities that

1200
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: we used to make fun of here, Detroit, Chicago, Saint Louis,

1201
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: we've become that. Look around the city, from the homeless

1202
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: to the crime, to the way the construction gets started

1203
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: and just doesn't get finished. Like it looks like Detroit.

1204
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: Around here, it feels like Detroit. And the crime numbers

1205
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: are backing up that claim. And I hate that. I'm

1206
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: a Marion County guy. I'm not somebody that lives in

1207
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: Carmel and craps on Indy. I live here, my family

1208
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: lives here, my parents live here. Where Marion County people, Indianapolis,

1209
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: Beech Grove, this is us. So it frustrates me when

1210
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: we have numbers like this. Man think about moving out, well,

1211
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: with this weather, I think about moving to Florida quite

1212
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: a bit. I'm not gonna lie just feeling a little

1213
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: bit of warmth.

1214
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 4: I meant out of the county when we decided to

1215
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 4: have our second child, child Lindsay, and I said a

1216
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 4: probably Adam, Marian County, We're gonna move to Boone. Yeah,

1217
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 4: that's what we did, so any any consideration, I mean,

1218
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 4: your kids are grown.

1219
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 1: Now, right. You know I always use the line that

1220
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: Michael Bolton in the movie Office Space gives. Why should

1221
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: I change? They're the ones that suck. So I'm here,

1222
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: like I said, until I retire or get fired from

1223
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: this job. I'm sitting on a beach and you know

1224
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: Destin or Fort Lauderdale somewhere love it. I'm here Baby

1225
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 1: Beach Grove over South Beach. At least that's my plan

1226
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: for right now. The Senate, your favorite TV pals back

1227
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: in action at the Indiana General Assembly. We spoke to

1228
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,479
Speaker 1: Rob Kendall earlier. He walked over there and harassed people

1229
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: for a little bit and came back. He was one

1230
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: of the folks that volunteered to speak out against the

1231
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: changing of the maps. But you know what, Rob and

1232
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: I disagree on this. I'm all in on changing it

1233
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: because it's a new ballgame now. I'm somebody that feels

1234
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: like if you get punched in the face, you punch

1235
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: them back in the face. And if ELLINOI is going

1236
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: to get squirrely in California and New York and Virginia,

1237
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to sit back and be the virtuous one. Well,

1238
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to stoop to their level. Screw that,

1239
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: I'll stoop to their level. I'll pick up the shovel

1240
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: and hit them with that.

1241
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 4: Let's do They're doing it, and there's nothing on Coal

1242
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 4: about it, by the way, right right, So if they're

1243
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 4: going to do it, if they're going to try to

1244
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 4: outmaneuver us, then we should be doing the same thing.

1245
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. You don't have to sell me.

1246
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: But I will say this, and we mentioned this earlier.

1247
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: If the folks that feel like I do that want

1248
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: to fire Andre Carson, that feel like Frank Mrvan is

1249
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: a creep. If you want those folks gone, and you're

1250
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: willing to stand up and be vocal about it and

1251
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: tell your lawmakers, Hey, not everybody is against this thing,

1252
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: like the media is trying to make you believe. Yeah,

1253
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: the polling that we want something in return. We want

1254
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: you butt sniffers to go back and fix property taxes next. Okay,

1255
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: we'll get Donald Trump off your back. We'll support you,

1256
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: but you butt sniffers better go to work. And that

1257
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: doesn't mean putting a committee together Rod Bray that has

1258
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: Scott Baldwin on it. Who's going to get financial gain

1259
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: allegedly from screwing us on property taxes. So just understand

1260
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: that we're willing to play ball, but we're out your pushovers.

1261
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: We want a little something in return here will help

1262
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: and promote the property tax I'm sorry the changing of

1263
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: the map, but you better fix what's happening to our

1264
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: pocketbooks right now, Nige. If you need a reason to

1265
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: drink tonight tonight. Happy sixty eighth birthday to friend of

1266
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: the show, Phil Collin from deaf Leppard. Oh, guitarist from

1267
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: def Leppard. Yes, sixty eight he's called into the program before.

1268
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 4: Dude, he looks nothing. I mean he's read looks forty eight. Dude,

1269
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 4: he's shredded. That's old man's strength right there. Yeah, sixty

1270
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 4: eight years old. Death Leppard is still part of like

1271
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 4: a touring band.

1272
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 11: Man.

1273
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: They do a lot of these, like hu super concerts,

1274
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: Like they came to Indy what was it a couple

1275
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: of years ago and I think it was like def

1276
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: Leppard and Joan Jet and Poison and a number of folks. So,

1277
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: knowing there's a little bit of an age gap here,

1278
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna play don't forget the lyrics with Alison. Now, Alison,

1279
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: I know most Deaf Leopard songs were released before you

1280
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: were born, but you're not somebody that is going to

1281
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: use that as an excuse. You've probably heard these songs before.

1282
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna play a popular def Leppard song. I'm

1283
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: gonna stop it at some point. Your job is to

1284
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: get the next line of the song correct. Okay, all right,

1285
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: here we go. Number one.

1286
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 15: Come on, Alison, here we go, pass up, shug up baby.

1287
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 1: Whoa, there we go. Now we're cooking baby, and we're

1288
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: fishing with dynamite. All right, one for one. Let's see

1289
01:08:48,160 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: if she can get number two. It's also the name

1290
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: of the song. It's the name of Nicks. It's a

1291
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 1: name of the right song.

1292
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 15: Rock star.

1293
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: All right, this one comes down to this, all right,

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Speaker 1: I never heard it. She'll either go home a winner

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Speaker 1: or walk to the shed a loser. Here we go,

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Speaker 1: Number three, rock and roll. Let's go impressive. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's oppressive. Two out of three.

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Speaker 11: Dude.

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Speaker 1: I'm checked. I'm ready to run through a brick wall.

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Speaker 1: Right now, let's go. I feel like Signetti came in here,

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Speaker 1: just gave everybody a speech. Matt Bear, Are you really okay?

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Speaker 15: Are welcome?

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01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 9: Anything's going to be our come?

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Speaker 3: Are you okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I'm fine, I'm pretty freeing far from okay?

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Speaker 7: Are you okay with this?

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Speaker 1: Are the Hammer and Idol brought to you by Window Nation.

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Speaker 4: can we skip this first story and just go into

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Speaker 4: the last two?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Are you okay with this? There's a saxophone player on

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01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 4: Instagram named Evan. He adds his solos to well known songs. Okay,

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01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 4: I get an example. He captions all of them with

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01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 4: adding saxphone. Those two songs that don't need them. Here

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Speaker 4: is one example. Tell me what you think.

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Speaker 1: A little justin Timberlake here. I don't think it's bad.

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01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: I think it's awful. You're okay with that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm all right now. If you told me he was

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01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: gonna put a gazoo in there or cow bell or something, no,

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: it adds a little jazz to it. I'm not mad

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01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: at that. Like I think it kind of flowed right there.

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Speaker 4: Okay, are you okay with this? This is something we

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Speaker 4: talk about often on this show. Guns Arts, Boobs, Booze Booze.

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01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 4: Guns n' Roses released a couple new songs yesterday. There's

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Speaker 4: a caveat here.

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Speaker 1: I just the caveat They're not any good.

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Speaker 4: Here's one of them. It's called quote nothing.

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Speaker 1: Let it play for a minute, New Goods run? Would you.

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Speaker 11: Let it?

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01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: Let it keep going? I want do we have to

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: let slash? I want the guitarist to kick in.

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01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 10: It?

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01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: Would you.

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Speaker 5: Stop?

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01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: See how much more than you're gonna make me listen to?

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01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 4: Here's a caveat the new the to quote new tracks

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01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 4: actually date back to the sessions for two thousand and

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Speaker 4: eight's Chinese Democracy.

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Speaker 1: No kidding. So you're telling me that turd of a

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01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: song wasn't good enough to make that turd of an album,

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01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 1: Like I love Guns n' Roses right, like a turd

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Speaker 1: of an album. Too Appetite for Destruction one of the

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01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: great albums of all time. Use Your Illusions were pretty

1350
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: good after that? All crap, all crap after that, Like

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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: they had such a short window, so few good albums

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 1: for being such an awesome band. No, I'm not okay

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01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: with that. That's the crap they said wasn't good enough

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01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: to make their crappiest album. So let that sync in. No,

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Speaker 1: now here's the dilemma that I'm in. I've been trying

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01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: to see a lot of these bands before they retire lately, right, So, yeah,

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01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: you just saw the ac DC down in Nashville. They

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01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: still got it. Paul McCartney. Paul McCartney, Guns and Roses

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01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: is coming and doing another United States tour. The closest

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Speaker 1: they're coming to Indy, I think is like Chicago, or

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: like a suburb of Chicago, some music venue. And I

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Speaker 1: was asking my oldest who likes that type of music, Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: do you want to go see Guns and Roses with

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01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: me one more time? And he loves Guns and Roses

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01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: and he said, man, i've heard Axel. I don't think

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01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: I want to go see them live because tickets are

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Speaker 1: super expensive. I just don't know if I want to

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01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: see Axel up there trying You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: When you say super expensive, it's not even that. Can't

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Speaker 4: even come close to describing tickets to that level of shows,

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Speaker 4: whether it's Guns and Roses, or ac DC or Taylor

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Speaker 4: Swift right, It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Nobody ever criticized Taylor for still not having it. Like

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01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: all the reviews I read of ac DC outside of

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01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 1: a couple of numb nuts, were like, hey man, the

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01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: old dudes are still up there getting it. You know,

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01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: Ankus is doing the duck walk and they're they're killing it.

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Speaker 1: I've heard nothing but bad stuff about both Motley Crue

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Speaker 1: and Guns N' Roses, both of them. Because Motley Crue

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01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: was doing like a thing in Vegas a residency and

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, screw it, I want to go.

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01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: But then I watched Vince Neil on stage and I

1383
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: was like, ah, I better just go hit the casino.

1384
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: And I kind of feel like that about Axel Rose.

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 1: Once he shaved off his eyebrows, I was done.

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Speaker 11: That was it.

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Speaker 2: That was it.

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01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,799
Speaker 1: That was a deal breaker. He shaved off his eyebrows,

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01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: he braided his hair, he looked like a fat bo Derek.

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Speaker 1: And at that point I was out.

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Speaker 4: The Hammer of Nigel Show. My name is Nigel. That's

1392
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 4: Jason Hammer over there. We go straight to the hot

1393
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 4: line and bring on Kevin Bowen from our sister sports

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Speaker 4: talk station one oh, seven five the fan final score

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Speaker 4: thirty six nineteen down in Jacksonville obviously to say that

1396
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,799
Speaker 4: Jacksonville still has our number as quite the understate. Mccabee,

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Speaker 4: what did you see yesterday?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, boy, they I would call it a hex or

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Speaker 11: er maybe that they that they have over the Colts. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: it's not just what eleven straight years now that the

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01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 11: Cult have been unable to win.

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01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 2: In Jazz Exonville.

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Speaker 11: Just obviously the Daniel Jones injury and really before that

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Speaker 11: injury is starting to trend like, Okay, I've seen the

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Speaker 11: song and dance before and Jacksonville he had Jones.

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Speaker 2: So will pick them the first play of the game,

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Speaker 2: you're down I think fourteen to.

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Speaker 11: Seven when he got hurt, So it was kind of

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Speaker 11: trending in that direction.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So obviously for the short term it's decimating to your

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Speaker 11: AFC South hopes, your playoff hopes take a big.

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Speaker 2: Hit, and then long term with Jones's injury, it's crippling.

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Speaker 4: Not completely out of the playoff picture though, right No,

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Speaker 4: I mean right now.

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Speaker 11: The odds would say, in factoring in Riley Leonard could

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Speaker 11: be your starter for the final.

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Speaker 2: Four games of the season, but you know, odds that

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Speaker 2: have it right around a coin slip that you make

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. You really need like the Eagles to win

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Speaker 2: the night. Basically the Chargers and the Texans and the

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Speaker 2: Shoo teams that I think are our teams that you.

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Speaker 12: Need to lose.

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Speaker 11: And obviously the Colt's gonna have to do their own part.

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Speaker 11: But remember now it's one of the toughest schedules remaining.

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Speaker 11: It's ten wins Seattle on the road this week, it's

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Speaker 11: nine wins San Francisco the following week, and then you

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Speaker 11: have Jacksonville Houston again, and they could be playing for

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Speaker 11: the AFC South title and you could be, you know,

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Speaker 11: clinging to playoff hopes.

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Speaker 2: In week seventeen and eighteen, go.

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Speaker 4: Back to the Daniel Jones injury because it seemed like,

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Speaker 4: what did he just trip and just fall on it wrong?

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Speaker 1: Is that what happened?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I don't know if the wet fields, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: That field sucks when it's wet.

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Speaker 11: Yeah. And I don't know if you know his injured

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01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 11: fibula is on the other leg, you know, did that

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Speaker 11: give out in any way?

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01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 2: And I you know who knows?

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Speaker 11: You know, put on the medical head is way above

1443
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 11: my pay grade, but clearly you know his frustration told

1444
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 11: you the full story right away, and you just feel

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01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 11: awful for the guy. Obviously anyone you don't see anyone

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01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 11: get hurt. But you know everything he went through in

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01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 11: New York, and you know, had been looking like a

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01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 11: guy that was going to get another contract.

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Speaker 2: What that looked like, I think was still the debatable.

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Speaker 11: And you know that injury and he loses.

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Speaker 2: Millions and millions and millions.

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Speaker 4: Of dollars ouch, and then after he comes out of

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Speaker 4: the game, his rep placement, the backup quarterback, the kid

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Speaker 4: from Notre Dame just nothing there at all on ya.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's definitely more of a running quarterback.

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Speaker 11: I thought they could have played to that a little

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01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 11: bit more than they did. He's not ready to be,

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Speaker 11: I think, a pocket passing quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He did score, right, He had a rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 11: Correct, Yeah, he had a rushing touchdown. You know a

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Speaker 11: few of the plays he created in the passing game

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Speaker 11: I thought were kind of more through his legs, keeping

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Speaker 11: plays alive. So that's what you'll try to lean on,

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Speaker 11: I would assume, you know, again, can you utilize him

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Speaker 11: in Johnathan Taylor a little bit more? With a week

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Speaker 11: of practice and kind of the run pass option stuff.

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Speaker 11: But still, you know, I think anyone that watched him

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Speaker 11: a Notre Dame or you know, even you know, I

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Speaker 11: think the Colts realized that him as an NFL pocket

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Speaker 11: operating quarterback.

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Speaker 2: There's a long ways to go before that.

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Speaker 4: So, I mean, what's going to be the plan against

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Speaker 4: Seattle next week? Like total game manager, give the ball

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Speaker 4: to Jonathan Taylor every time and keep it simple.

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Speaker 1: Stupid. I guess as the would say, you got a

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Speaker 1: factor in.

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Speaker 11: One of the hardest plays is to play Seattle's.

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01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 2: One ten games.

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Speaker 11: They have a great defense, So I mean, you know,

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01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 11: that's just you know, a bunch of layers on top

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01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 11: of obviously Riley Leonard getting his first star.

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01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: But yes, you need to hand it to Taylor a lot. Again,

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01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: I think you can lean on Leonard's running ability.

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01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 11: I get that, you know that might risk some injury,

1485
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 11: but you know, welcome to the reality of him playing quarterback.

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01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: And then you have to have better from your defense.

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01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 7: Niche.

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01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 11: I mean, that was an awful defensive performance on Sunday.

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01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 11: Trevor Lawrence, the Jaguars quarterback, has not looked like that

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01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,799
Speaker 11: all year. The season high end points allowed by the Colts.

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01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 11: So yeah, just a really poor defensive effort. We'll see

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Speaker 11: if they get the Forrest Buckner or Soft Gardner back,

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01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 11: but yeah, that's just a really awful day.

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Speaker 2: On alt of the ball.

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01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: And any chance we see Anthony Richardson next week, I

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Speaker 1: don't expect it.

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Speaker 11: I've gotten vibe that his return is not imminent by

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01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 11: any means. I think not only was it a football injury,

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Speaker 11: I think it was a human injury. I mean we're

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Speaker 11: we're talking about, you know, vision and getting all the

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01:19:58,600 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 11: way back there, and.

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01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: I still think that something that is a question.

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01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 11: So he's doing some weight room work and you know,

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01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 11: the Colts haven't officially ruled him out for the rest

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Speaker 11: of the year, but I've gotten.

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Speaker 2: The vibe that his return is not something to expect.

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Speaker 4: I mean, are the wheels starting to come off a

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01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 4: little bit here? Are they jiggling? Are the bolts coming

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01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 4: loose on the on the tires for the Colts?

1510
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 2: Oh certainly.

1511
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's that's probably the best analogy to use. And honestly, Nige,

1512
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 11: not only in twenty twenty five, but what about next year. Yeah,

1513
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 11: we've seen this at Tyres Haliburn unfortunately. But you know,

1514
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 11: if Daniel Jones is out all of next year, Okay,

1515
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 11: what does your quarterback position look like? You know, you

1516
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 11: don't have two first round picks. Remember you traded those away?

1517
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, have it for twenty twenty six

1518
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 2: or twenty twenty seven and the.

1519
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: Guy they traded him away for is currently injured for

1520
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 1: several weeks?

1521
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 2: Right, and then what do you do with your head

1522
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 2: coach and your GM?

1523
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 11: You know, from a hiring standpoint, you know, it's year

1524
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 11: three for stich In, it's year nine for Battler.

1525
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: They weren't hired together.

1526
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 11: But a lot of NFL teams operate as your GM

1527
01:20:58,400 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 11: and your head coach would be tied at the hip.

1528
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 11: You know, they either you know, go as one or

1529
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 11: come as one. Well, okay, if you evaluated each of

1530
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 11: them individually, you know, the Ballard resume does not have

1531
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 11: a lot of substance on it at all. The second

1532
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 11: resume doesn't have much either. I don't think he's been

1533
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 11: as bad as his job as Ballard if I had.

1534
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 2: To individually evaluate them. But that's the question for Carl

1535
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 2: urse Gordon.

1536
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 11: So you know, not only did your twenty twenty five hope. Yeah,

1537
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 11: take a hit, you know, with that injury, but you know,

1538
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 11: you just can't ignore the long term. And I think

1539
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 11: a lot of questions that you didn't even need to

1540
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 11: entertain before yesterday are now back on the table.

1541
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, my throat is currently in my stomach with the

1542
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 4: way you put that right there. And looking forward to

1543
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six as well, Kevin Bowen from what I

1544
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 4: was seven five to the fans, just one more thing

1545
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 4: in general, it seems like not only the fans, there

1546
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 4: was something about this team at the beginning of the

1547
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 4: season that everybody was talking about, everybody was excited about,

1548
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 4: and now it's just I mean, this is that just

1549
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 4: life in the NFL. I mean it's done. A complete

1550
01:21:59,080 --> 01:21:59,839
Speaker 4: one eighty.

1551
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 1: Of this team.

1552
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I've always said this, The seventeen week

1553
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 11: grind of an NFL season is an absolute grind. I mean,

1554
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 11: surviving seventeen weeks is not an easy task. There are

1555
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 11: a lot of different iterations of the season. And you know,

1556
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 11: the Colts obviously had played great football to.

1557
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 2: The first two months. Now, the injury bug was I

1558
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 2: think on their side.

1559
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 11: For the most part early in the season, and then

1560
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,560
Speaker 11: also the schedule was very favorable to them early in

1561
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 11: the year. Remember it's been backloaded here and the AFC

1562
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 11: South games. We're kind of waiting here.

1563
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: And you had two massive games these last two weeks

1564
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 2: with Houston and Jacksonville, and if you could have gotten

1565
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 2: a split, I think you would still be in the mix.

1566
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 11: But you know, losing both of them is just you know,

1567
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 11: like you said, the bolts of the wheels are kind

1568
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 11: of coming off right now, and it's a bumpy road

1569
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 11: as well.

1570
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 4: Well, let's spend the rest of our time talking about

1571
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 4: some good news. The Hoosiers in the Rose Bowl. Number one,

1572
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 4: you got a first round by how do you think

1573
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 4: they played against Ohio State on Saturday night.

1574
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 11: I'm just so impressed by their defense. I mean, just

1575
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 11: incredible job they did in that game Ohio State. The

1576
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 11: only touchdown they scored was off of that short field

1577
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 11: off of the interception, So I would start there with

1578
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 11: their defense. And then obviously when Fernando Mendoza needed to

1579
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 11: make some big throws.

1580
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 2: You know, he found elijahs Rot for that touchdown.

1581
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 11: Charlie Becker Number eighties really come on big here late

1582
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 11: in the season with some injuries. Why do they lost

1583
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 11: o Mark Cooper junior from Lawrence North early in that game.

1584
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 2: I think he's a really good player.

1585
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 11: And Becker made some huge plays in the second half

1586
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 11: without him in the lineup. So that's where I would

1587
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 11: start first, though, n I just I know Mendoza is

1588
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 11: likely going to win the Heisman Trophy coming up on

1589
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 11: Saturday night. But for me, it's a IU defense, especially

1590
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 11: up front, their defensive line. You know, Fernando Mendoza was

1591
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 11: pretty highly sought after in the transfer portal. Yeah, the

1592
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 11: IU defense is not a very highly sought after group

1593
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 11: by any means, and yet they played at a championship

1594
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 11: level all season long. They earlier in the year, and

1595
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 11: you know when Mendoza has had some struggles, you know,

1596
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 11: with some fourth quarter interceptions ore. Again, Iowa Indiana's defense

1597
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 11: played so well in those games. They were able, you know,

1598
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 11: to kind of stay in it and have chances to win.

1599
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 11: So I would start there.

1600
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 2: The thing that's been most impressive to.

1601
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 4: Me and the chances of are you winning the whole

1602
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 4: damn thing?

1603
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: What do you give it?

1604
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: That's good quest. I mean I think they definitely have

1605
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 2: it would get shot.

1606
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 11: You know, if you look at the Pathway Alabama or

1607
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 11: Oklahoma would be their first game. Neither those things have

1608
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 11: been very impressive, and a lot of people questioned Alabama

1609
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 11: even being in the field. I think from a betting standpoint,

1610
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 11: Hammer can check me on this, but I think it's

1611
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 11: Ohio State.

1612
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the flight.

1613
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 11: Favorite, and think Indiana is like really close the next

1614
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 11: on the list.

1615
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 7: But you know, the good news is you have.

1616
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 11: Teams like Georgia and Ohio State and both on the

1617
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 11: other side of the brackets, so you only have to

1618
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 11: beat one of them to win at all.

1619
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 2: And you know, Saturday night I think sent a lot.

1620
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 11: I mean, it's could be tough to win three games

1621
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 11: obviously against you know, three somewhat quality opponents, all Nico fields,

1622
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 11: But still, I mean to do that to Ohio State,

1623
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 11: and I can hear Ohio.

1624
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: State fans they would counter and say, well, you know,

1625
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: emotional hangover.

1626
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 11: We beat Michigan in the week prior, that's the game

1627
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 11: that matters more to us. But still, you know, for

1628
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 11: Indiana to do that for sixty minutes, again, especially on

1629
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 11: the defensive side of the ball, was was championship level.

1630
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: And that's why I do think I don't know before

1631
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 2: the Houra to night.

1632
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 11: If I thought a true run was, you know, realistically possible,

1633
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 11: and now I think.

1634
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 4: It definitely is one more thank you boy to let

1635
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 4: you go to the Indiana Pacers obviously injury riddled. Are

1636
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 4: they getting any better whatsoever? And what's it like talking

1637
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 4: to coach Carlisle every Tuesday knowing that he has to

1638
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 4: he has an uphill battle ahead of him.

1639
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they got the first row to win

1640
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 2: on a Friday, which is kind of wild.

1641
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, what you know, over a month in the season,

1642
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 11: your first row win the Sacramento tonight, and they will

1643
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 11: have a lot of practice time these next two weeks.

1644
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 11: The season kind of turned around last year in a

1645
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 11: similar fashion, but that was Andrew Nemart and Aironi Smith

1646
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 11: battle and injuries. This year, Nie Smith is also out,

1647
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 11: should be back here in a few weeks, but still

1648
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 11: it is a steep climb to get back into that

1649
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 11: playoff consideration. They've played better over the last couple of weeks,

1650
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 11: but you really really have got to flip it. So

1651
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 11: we'll see, you know, it's kind of teetering a little

1652
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 11: bit here. You know, Unlike the Colts, the Pacers do

1653
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 11: have their draft pick for next year, so there are

1654
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 11: a lot of fans out there that just want to

1655
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 11: see them get the.

1656
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 2: Best draft pick possible.

1657
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 11: And you know, add to when Tyree saliburt and gets back.

1658
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 11: Whereas the Colts, you know, cheering for losses to try

1659
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 11: and improve the draft picks.

1660
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 7: Guys really hurt.

1661
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 4: Kevin Bowen one was seven five the fan. I know

1662
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 4: you have Pacers coach Rick Carlisle on your show tomorrow.

1663
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 4: Thanks for calling in, man, have a great week. It's

1664
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 4: the Hammer and Nigel show. Saw the sepole of the

1665
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,919
Speaker 4: like a thousand people hammer. How many of these December

1666
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 4: things will you do this month? They call them December things?

1667
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 4: Number one, Holiday music.

1668
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,560
Speaker 1: That's kind of a given, right, Well, we're in this

1669
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 1: building where B one oh five, our sister station has

1670
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 1: been playing Christmas music since like Saint Patrick's Day, it

1671
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: feels like. But at home, like the Coupon Lady, she

1672
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: plays that old Christmas music. I love the old classes

1673
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,799
Speaker 1: from the Fifney, Crosby and all that kind of stuff.

1674
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,759
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so, I mean so it's hard to avoid,

1675
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 4: but seventy five percent of us will intentionally put some

1676
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 4: on this month. Another eight percent said, maybe sixteen percent

1677
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 4: say they will do everything they can to avoid the

1678
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,799
Speaker 4: Christmas music, So what a bunch of grenches.

1679
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 1: You know what, though, it gets a little old after

1680
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: a while, like and some of those Christmas songs are

1681
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: just downers and they're slow.

1682
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 4: I get it, all right, many of these December What

1683
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 4: will you do these things in December? Exchange presence with someone?

1684
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's a gift.

1685
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 4: Watch a holiday movie on purpose because it's a holiday

1686
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 4: movie nighte.

1687
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,560
Speaker 1: I've watched like ten allad because Crystal is a lunatic,

1688
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: Like she makes us sit down as a family, like

1689
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 1: like our kids are six years old still like they're

1690
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: grown ass, you know, adults, And oh it just wears

1691
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 1: me out. Man, all right, I got here.

1692
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 4: Why I got one for you here wear holiday pajamas

1693
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 4: as a family matching.

1694
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: So I'm not a pajamas guy, but she'll buy like

1695
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: a magic shirt. You know, we have to don the

1696
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: gay apparel. I know, I'm not talking to bed.

1697
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, wake up on Christmas Day and you're

1698
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 4: all dressed alike in Christmas pjs because that's what we

1699
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 4: do in our family, including the dog.

1700
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: This year, Oh you dressed the dog up in the

1701
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 1: same outfit that we have. You win, You're the worst,

1702
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 1: Like I thought Crystal was like over the top on Christmas. No, no,

1703
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: we're not dressing up the dog and matching pajama.

1704
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,640
Speaker 4: The puppies got matching pj's this year old man and

1705
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 4: then finally donate to charity.

1706
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna be doing quite a bit of that

1707
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: this Friday. The WIBC radiothon for the Salvation Army. Put

1708
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 1: some money in our virtual kettle. We're trying to beat

1709
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 1: Rob Kendall. You can't let that weasel win, so please

1710
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: go to WIBC dot com donate to The Hammer and

1711
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 1: Nigel Show. Let's have some fun.