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Speaker 2: Is that right? That sounds about right?

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Speaker 1: Why would we ever have anyone else?

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Speaker 1: Simon Cordo PASSI mark double check me on that if

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Speaker 1: How are you boys doing on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 2: I'm alive and well made it back from the West,

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Speaker 1: News items of Monday from the Indianapolis Colts. Shane Stiken.

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Speaker 1: means for him to be cleared from that eye injury

436
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Speaker 1: he's not practicing over two months. James, I thought the

437
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Speaker 1: most telling thing from psych in all day yesterday, and

438
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Speaker 1: I wasn't that surprised by it. But I think at

439
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 1: times we don't necessarily hear stich and offer the direct

440
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Speaker 1: quote that backs up maybe like my level of surprise

441
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: or my level of how I really think he feels.

442
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 1: He obviously got peppered with a ton of quarterback related questions.

443
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Speaker 1: I mean, well, you said ten to fifteen quarterback related

444
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Speaker 1: questions something along those lines.

445
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're doing a split a percentage of probably ninety

446
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Speaker 2: percent of the questions.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so a ton of quarterback questions. And finally at

448
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: the end, in the midst of answering the question, it

449
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: almost felt like to me he was a little tired

450
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 1: of them all. And it was it wasn't like he

451
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Speaker 1: was yelling or mad or fed up, And actually was

452
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Speaker 1: one of his longer answers that he gave. But in

453
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: the middle of the answer he said something to the

454
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Speaker 1: effect of, in regards to Rivers, he goes, we didn't

455
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: bring him here to sit on the bench. I'll say that.

456
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: And in Shane Steiken Lingo James, he rarely is that demonstrative,

457
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: if that's the right word with a quote. I was

458
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Speaker 1: really struck by that quote of if you listen to

459
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Speaker 1: the first whatever he spoke to us for let's call

460
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Speaker 1: it ten minutes, if you listen to the first like

461
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Speaker 1: seven or eight minutes. Yeah, he backs Rivers and he

462
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Speaker 1: says he's going to be the starter, and he explains

463
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Speaker 1: why he thinks there's a little bit more to the offense.

464
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Speaker 1: But like, for all those out there that were curious,

465
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Speaker 1: could Leonard get a shot? Is Anthony Richardson going to

466
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Speaker 1: get a shot? I thought that that was just the

467
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: money quote from psychan Agree, disagree, whatever you want to

468
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: feel about it. In shanging Sichen's eyes, this is Philip Rivers'

469
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: football team right now.

470
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Speaker 2: Absolutely I got that same reaction sending the airport. Actually

471
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Speaker 2: I was taking that zoom call in Chicago. And to

472
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Speaker 2: add to that conversation a bit more, I think hearing

473
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Speaker 2: him talk about Anthony and trying to explain the difference

474
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Speaker 2: between Anthony being off for months at a time versus

475
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Speaker 2: Philip being off for years at a time was also

476
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Speaker 2: kind of interesting because he didn't really answer that question.

477
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: He just said the question back to him or back

478
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Speaker 2: to us, rather where he said, well, one guy's dealing

479
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Speaker 2: with the injury, the other guy hasn't. That's the differences,

480
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: simple as that. And what was your reaction maybe to

481
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Speaker 2: that part of it, Kevin, because that, to me didn't

482
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Speaker 2: sound like all that optimistic about Anthony Richard him playing

483
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Speaker 2: again this season. And I get the question. The premise

484
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: of the question is great, how can one guy who yeah,

485
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 2: he knows your offense, but he isn't in the building

486
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: or hasn't been around the team for years be a

487
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Speaker 2: better option than the other guy who apparently is getting

488
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Speaker 2: close to being physically clear to play football again. And

489
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: he has been around your team, he is a member

490
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Speaker 2: of your team currently, So that part of it, Kevin

491
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: was a bit interesting to me for sure.

492
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is where I raised my hand when

493
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Speaker 1: we get into these sorts of chats James, and I'm like,

494
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: what the hell do I know about medical stuff?

495
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

496
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Speaker 1: What I know about the Anthony Richardson injury situation was

497
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: this is an extremely gruesome and I think I'm not

498
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: stepping out of bounds here. I think vision threatening is

499
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Speaker 1: an accurate way to put it. It was a very

500
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Speaker 1: serious injury, human injury, not football injury. Human.

501
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, part of the recovery was waiting to get his

502
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Speaker 2: full vision back.

503
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Speaker 1: So you know, how long does that take? What type

504
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Speaker 1: of physical activity is he allowed to do in the

505
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Speaker 1: two months that he has been out? Like, all of

506
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: those are questions that I'm just unsure. This is not

507
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: simply saying, hey, your ankle's a little bit sprained. Play

508
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: at eighty one percent instead of ninety eight percent. You

509
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: know that is different. You know you can't just hey,

510
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: go patch up the eye. Well yeah, that that doesn't

511
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Speaker 1: really work. And I mean, I don't say this in

512
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Speaker 1: a joking manner at all. But you know, for a

513
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Speaker 1: guy that I think has had accuracy issues, you would

514
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: certainly need pristine vision from him if you're going to

515
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Speaker 1: throw him back out there. So I bring up the

516
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Speaker 1: whole Richardson thing to say, just medically, I'm not sure

517
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Speaker 1: of where he's at. I all continue to say what

518
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: we've said for the last several months now, or probably

519
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Speaker 1: several weeks now. I just have never gotten in vibe

520
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Speaker 1: that they think Anthony Richardson is coming back this season

521
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Speaker 1: to play meaningful snaps for him. You know, maybe he

522
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Speaker 1: becomes the backup for whatever week seventeen or eighteen. But

523
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Speaker 1: still even then, I'm trying to play this out in

524
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Speaker 1: my head, like if he's cleared to practice on Thursday. Typically,

525
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Speaker 1: if a guy has missed multiple months, you would need

526
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Speaker 1: at least two weeks of practice to get back to,

527
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, being available for that team in a game.

528
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: To Forrest Buckner, for example, let's just use him. And again,

529
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Speaker 1: I know all injuries aren't the same. You know, Buckner's

530
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: missed a month plus and the thought is he practiced

531
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: last week limited didn't play in the game. But I

532
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: think there is some optimism he could play on Monday,

533
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Speaker 1: So okay, Richardson's missed longer. Again, a neck and an

534
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: eye aren't the same injuries. But you know, could Richardson

535
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Speaker 1: be behind Philip Rivers for whatever week seventeen against Jacksonville. Maybe,

536
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Speaker 1: But again I'm not even sitting here holding my breath

537
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Speaker 1: necessarily for that. So that's where I think it just

538
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: gets into the difficult situation of, you know, in a

539
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: athletic feat, who do I think is you know, more available? Yeah,

540
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: I mean I would assume Anthony Richardson, But still I

541
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Speaker 1: have no idea where he's at, just from a rehab standpoint, and.

542
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Speaker 4: We can.

543
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Speaker 1: Disagree agree with that, and that's fine. But at the

544
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: end of the day, this is Shane Stikeen's call, and

545
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: Shane Stikeen this ship will be steered by Philip Rivers.

546
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: That I am full belief. I mean, maybe it goes disastrous.

547
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: I think there was a thought in Sikeen's mind if

548
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: it gets real ugly in Seattle, like early, if it

549
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: would have gotten whatever two three score ugly and you

550
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: would have needed to drop back for thirty times, then

551
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: you probably would have gone with Leondard. Yeah, like you

552
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: weren't going exposed Rivers in its first start. Now that

553
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: they've gotten through that, now that Philip Rivers apparently felt

554
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: fine after the game, I think it's even more in

555
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: Shane Sikin's eyes that it's gonna be Philip Rivers. Like

556
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: there were no seeds of doubt in my opinion, and

557
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: how Stike and viewed Rivers on Sunday, I've got some doubt.

558
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: But you hear Stike and talk yesterday, and we'll have

559
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: Mark play some of this audio. He thinks there's more

560
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: there to the game plan. He thinks there's more there

561
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: vertically down the field.

562
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Speaker 3: And he was bold.

563
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean he was bold on that was he not?

564
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was bullish all last week about the guy's

565
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 2: physical ability and that to me is probably the biggest

566
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: question with them coming out of retirement. This isn't like,

567
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: you know, an old guy coming back who can still

568
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: sling it like Joe Flaccough. We never question his arm,

569
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: talent or ability to push the ball down the field.

570
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: But my only pushback to the conversation right now with

571
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: phili River starting, which again, is it surprising to me

572
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: considering that he was brought into play and as Shane

573
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: Stiken said, he ain't ride the bench to come here

574
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: and do that. But if they're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs,

575
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: Let's say I don't know, after a loss next week,

576
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: does that change who starts?

577
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Speaker 1: Because yeah, that is that is a great question. I

578
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, James, because you guys crutch

579
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: the numbers much better than I. I don't believe they

580
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: can be eliminated even with the loss on Monday.

581
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. I think according to like

582
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: the athletic playoff predictor model that we use, you still

583
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: would have a sliver up hole because it basically comes

584
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: to can you win your last two? And that should

585
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 2: in all theory likelihood, if you win the last two,

586
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: you have a serious chance of getting in.

587
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: Still you're gonna need help. But yes, yes, I think

588
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: you create Yeah, you're right around a coin flop opportunity.

589
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: But that to me is and that's also like an

590
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 2: interesting wrinkle in all of this is because if you were,

591
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 2: in theory, had a chance to physically or mathematically rather

592
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, not making it to the playoffs. Are you

593
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: still starting this guy at forty four years old.

594
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question. I don't think that question

595
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: becomes relevant though until at least eight week eighteen, like

596
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: just mathematics. Right, So that's why I haven't maybe entertained

597
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: it too too much. Now, you and I were discussing

598
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: this during the break, and it was definitely a topic

599
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 1: that Jeff and I had a lot yesterday. By the way,

600
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: Rick Carlile going to join us coming up at nine

601
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: o'clock here on this Tuesday morning. Definitely want to get

602
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: some Indiana football alts. I went back and watched the

603
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: sixty minutes. I did have to share what my favorite

604
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: part of the sixty minute episode was. But you believe

605
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: when you want to compare Philip Rivers and Riley Leonard

606
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: right now, you are with shang Staking, you think Philip

607
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: Rivers gives us team the best chance, right, Yeah.

608
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: I'm probably in that camp. Well, after seeing his performance

609
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: against Seattle, I can see the argument for let me

610
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: back up, going into it, I was thinking the old

611
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: guy should not be out there. I will go with

612
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: the young guy every single time. But saying his informance

613
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: in Seattle, I thought it was fine. I don't think

614
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: that ry Leonard could have been any better. Quite honestly,

615
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: when it comes to scheme and the defense. He was

616
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: facing things you had to do to give yourself a chance,

617
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: and after that performance, I am not shocked at all there.

618
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: Sticking with Rivers, I would agree on that, you know,

619
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Speaker 1: as far as Rivers are Leonard, Jeff and I talked

620
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: about this a lot yesterday and James we really hit

621
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Speaker 1: on it probably a good amount last week. I think

622
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: we're largely splitting hairs in really trying to decipher who

623
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: would give the Colts the best chance right now, Rivers Leonard.

624
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: I guess let's just focus on those two, because I

625
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: still think Anthony Richardson is a ways a way the

626
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: end result would probably like if you would have told

627
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: me on Sunday, Hey, Ryley, Leonard starts and the Colts

628
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: go out there and score sixteen points in the game,

629
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Speaker 1: I probably would have said, Yeah, that's probably my general thought.

630
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: If I'm going to pick one or the other, I

631
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: would go with Leonard though, And this is where the

632
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: debate I think comes down to it are you trying

633
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: to create the higher floor or the higher ceiling? Rivers

634
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: is the higher floor.

635
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: Right, I think that's the point for them.

636
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: So that means everything else has got to be perfect,

637
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: and everything was just about perfect for you, and you

638
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: still lost. You still lost. Yeah, And I go back

639
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: to Riley Leonard against Jacksonville. What happened when Riley Leonard

640
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: came into the game against Jacksonville? Jonathan Taylor fumbled. The

641
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: defense is having its worst day of the season, and

642
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard still produced multiple scoring drives. Now he's facing

643
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: the easier defense. I think it's fair to say now

644
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville is a joke of a defense, but Seattle's

645
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: probably at a different level. But that's Riley Leondard also

646
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: doing it without any practice reps all week long, so

647
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't again, we're probably splitting hairs. And this has

648
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: come from someone that is a big time Leonard's skeptic,

649
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, I know about to Hey, this is

650
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame fan talking about Leonard. I mean, you

651
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: know full well, James, I have never been the biggest

652
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard guy by any means. But do I think

653
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: he could offer a little bit more in the run game.

654
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not getting you in the right run play

655
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: as much as Rivers is, but there's no run threat

656
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: whatsoever with Rivers. The dual threat ability with Leonard would

657
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: be a little bit more there. Jonathan Taylor had nothing

658
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: in the big play run department on Sunday. It was

659
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: a grind to get Jonathan Taylor moving. I mean, he

660
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: had what eighty yards on twenty five carries. And then defensively,

661
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: you can't even compare the two efforts. I mean, those

662
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: are probably the two worst and best efforts of the

663
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: season for the Colts defensively, Leonard got the worst and

664
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: Rivers got the best.

665
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: That's true, But I also wonder when you're looking at

666
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: the performance of Philip Rivers, do you look at this

667
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: and say, well, the Seahawks had to give up a

668
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: touchdown in two weeks and you finally got one. And

669
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: that's where I'm at with. Okay, they didn't score a lot.

670
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: Their offense look limited. It looked limited for other teams

671
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: as well, because the Seahawks are that good defensively. So

672
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily again want to give you some moral

673
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: victory because trust me, it is a loss. And it

674
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: felt like it was such so weird covering that game

675
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: because it felt like a win in some aspects, because

676
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: the old guy came back and gave you a chance

677
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,239
Speaker 2: and he's up there, you know, being emotional about being

678
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: back with the boys, and we know how much he

679
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: loves the game. But also he's telling us we got

680
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Speaker 2: twenty one days stay alive. So it is an interesting

681
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: conversation for sure, and I would love to be on

682
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: the fly on the wall when it comes to what

683
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: Ry Leonard is telling anybody his life right now about

684
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: the opportunity he thought he had that was taken because

685
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: of the mentor he has, which is such a unique

686
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: situation to be in, and that to me is ultimately

687
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: what we will remember this whole moment by just uniqueness

688
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: of the situation. You don't call that guy if he's

689
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: not best friends with Shane stikeing, if he doesn't know

690
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: the entire offense without having been in the building, if

691
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: he isn't a potential Hall of Famer, all the above.

692
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: But I understand the frustration on both sides. And again,

693
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: if you told me, hey, we're gonna roll with Roley

694
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: Leonard on Monday night against the forty nine ers, I

695
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't hate the idea getting extra day to prep. But

696
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: they're confident, or at least Shane is in Philip and

697
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: he's going to be the guy, which I'm not surprised

698
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Speaker 2: by whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Shane was pretty bullish and Mark, could you play that?

700
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: All the other we were talking about during the break.

701
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: This was Shane psiking yesterday, and he hit on this

702
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: several different times, trying to speak to the game plan

703
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: that Rivers was asked to execute versus Seattle, versus what

704
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Speaker 1: he might be asked to execute moving forward.

705
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think each game plan will be different, and

706
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 7: that was the game plan going into it for that game.

707
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 7: So obviously we're going, you know, this week's a new challenge,

708
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 7: new opportunity for us UH, and obviously the game plan

709
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 7: you know, will switch on how we have to try

710
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 7: and win this football game.

711
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: What what will be different?

712
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 4: James?

713
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: What what can be different? Because he was adamant yesterday,

714
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm not.

715
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: So sure because a guy like Alec Pierce, I believe

716
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: he got two targets. One of them was the past

717
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 2: interference and then the other one was the big sixteen

718
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 2: yard game for the first down on their penultimate drive,

719
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 2: really their last drive to take the lead in the game.

720
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Speaker 2: So unless he's just gonna chuck a few more deep balls.

721
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm always nervous when to use penultimate. Is that is

722
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: that how you say it?

723
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 4: Yeah?

724
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: Pen ultimate second to last I got it.

725
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: Gosh, that's the word I like to use because I

726
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: like to think I'm smart. When I James said it

727
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: so just beautifully and seamlessly, and I get so nervous.

728
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: I just would have used it. I would have said

729
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: second to last drive.

730
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Speaker 5: Well in England, it doesn't sound a smart Kevin smart

731
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 5: Romeo kid versus Oh no, we ain't got to be.

732
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: That smart for radio, you know. So I will say

733
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 2: for only second to last drive, I thought he made

734
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: a big time throw to Alex Pearce, but also, man,

735
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: that was his first catch of the game for what

736
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: we have been calling the Colt's best wide receiver all

737
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: year Kevin. So to me, it all comes down to

738
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Speaker 2: how involved that guy is. And I'm not so sure

739
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: that that's gonna change because of the arm strength, and

740
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: there are even a couple of out routes he was

741
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: throwing to the sideline where I'm like, boy that yeah,

742
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: that ball took a little while to get there. And

743
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: with the week of tape now on the twenty twenty five,

744
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: Philip rivers, what do the forty nine ers do to

745
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: try to make life more difficult on him?

746
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 4: Yeah?

747
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: I know, you nerd out over some of these stats,

748
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: and I don't think the stat is maybe too too complicated,

749
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: but for audience out there, you know those next gen

750
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: stats that the NFL uses a good amount. They had

751
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: rivers on Sunday in the average completed air yards, which

752
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: I think is relatively easy for people to understand. Again,

753
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: completed air yards, so basically, the pass is completed, and

754
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: how long did it travel in the air? Not yack,

755
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: not yards, africats, not a mir Abdullah? Does you know?

756
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: Eight yards?

757
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

758
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: Gets it.

759
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: For example, for those listening, if they throw a screen pass,

760
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: you would have about two yards of intended air yards

761
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: or completed air yards in that case, versus throwing the

762
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: ball down the field where it's like, okay, it's thirty

763
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: yards in the air.

764
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Speaker 1: His average completed air yards on Sunday was zero point nine,

765
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: so it's less than a yard. It's the lowest, and

766
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: they go back about I want to say it's about

767
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: ten years with this. It's the lowest of rivers out

768
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: of eighty one games. And I want to say it's

769
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: the second lowest for the Colts as a team over

770
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: the last decade. And that's where my question lies. James,

771
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: when Shane Stiken, who was bullish for Shane steiking yesterday.

772
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna change. The game plan's gonna change. We can

773
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: do things more vertically. I don't know what that looks like, Like,

774
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: what is it just a bunch of double moves to

775
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: josh downs? Like can Philip Rivers throw the football fifteen

776
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: yards in the air and it not float and not

777
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: hang up there for defenders to make a play on

778
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: the ball.

779
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: Now, tell me you have doubts. I don't blame you

780
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: because we didn't see it like that.

781
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: That's probably my biggest question now moving forward, because again

782
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: Shane was adamant, and I get where Shane was coming from.

783
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: In the Hey, we thought the game plan for Seattle,

784
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: given their defense, given the road environment, we have to

785
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: treat it like again, we're Army Navy from a college standpoint,

786
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to run it a ton. We're

787
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: gonna have to play ball control, you know, I tweeted

788
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: out during the game, I felt like the blueprint for

789
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: the Colts is running it on first down, run it

790
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: on second down, hope and pray that it's third and four,

791
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: and then hope and pray again that Philip Rivers can

792
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: somehow fit some ball into a tight window, and you

793
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: know what, more often than not he did throw the

794
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: ball accurately. It was just you know what would happen

795
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: to those fifty to fifty moments there. So that's where

796
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: my question is, six days from now, what can look different.

797
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like he's going to learn more

798
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: of the offense or like you didn't tap into that. Yeah,

799
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna leave all of our big play stuff to

800
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: the side. We'll worry about that next week when you

801
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: have a better grasp of the system. No, like Rivers

802
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: knows all of it. From a mental acumen standpoint, it's

803
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: more of a can your arm actually do that?

804
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

805
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: Like can he throw the ball down the field to

806
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce? I mean, I'm trying to think of my head.

807
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: Was the longest throw of the day probably the steam

808
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: ball to Tyler Warren?

809
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it would have to be. Besides you

810
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 2: mean like completed pass. Well, I'm trying to eat. The

811
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: longest throw probably was the Pittman one.

812
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: Was the interception?

813
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably that one? Yeah?

814
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly from complete it pass? I think it was

815
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: the Warren one.

816
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: Eliminated right now? He was two for eight on passing

817
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: attempts over ten yards.

818
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: And the two was what Warren down the seam and

819
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: Alex Pierce back shoulder.

820
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 2: Yes, and then he was sixteen of eighteen.

821
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: Otherwise, boy, you gotta target Pierce. You just you can't

822
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: live in an offense where your backup running back is

823
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: your leading receiver. I just think that's a.

824
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: Really a very good point.

825
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: That's just a difficult game to play, because let's say

826
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: Seattle cashes in two of those field goal drives, all right, now,

827
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they have created, you know, more points, obviously.

828
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: And you know, the one thing about San Francisco is

829
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: there is there defense a certainly not Seattle's defense, and

830
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: San Francisco is probably the poster child of a banged

831
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: up football team that is still having won ten games

832
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: this year. So I think that is probably where some

833
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: optimism lies. But I'm genuinely curious about it, because again,

834
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: I don't think River's arm can create much more down

835
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: the field. But you listen to Shane Staking yesterday and

836
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: he feels the exact opposite about it.

837
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: Never dull here covering the calls, I'll tell you that much.

838
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: And I'm very curious to see again how the team

839
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: sort of reacts to the Philip Rivers experiment. And I

840
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: will say again, you're talking to a locker room that

841
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: sounded a lot more hopeful after that game than they

842
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: did in Jacksonville win Daniel Jones went down. So for

843
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: all of the criticism that we're levying against them, and

844
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it's warranted when it comes

845
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: to the QB decision, look at that locker room. They

846
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: seem to have rallied around the forty four year old

847
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: adrenaline junkie is kind of what Zaire Franklin phrased him.

848
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: Ass what does cleared mean for? Anthony Richardson will hit

849
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: on that coming up on the other side, I will

850
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: share what I enjoyed about that sixty minutes piece on

851
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: the Indiana Hoosiers and much more. Rick Carlisle at nine o'clock,

852
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: it's a fan morning show here on the two. I

853
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: always think of Marlin Mack when this song gets played.

854
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: Mark Dayton, any particular reason for a return of the.

855
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 5: Mac, Not really, but I always think of Michael Grady

856
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 5: and as disdained for this song, which it just boggles

857
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 5: my mind.

858
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Gosh, Grady did hate it.

859
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 2: He hates his song. I hates it with the flaw

860
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: with the great Michael Grady. This is a fantastic song.

861
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: This is what Kevin Bowen played when he's pulling up,

862
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: you know, trying to put a little mac down on Maddie.

863
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: I remember we had him on the show and I

864
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: had that as a rejoinder. He's like, I almost hung.

865
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 4: Up on you.

866
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I was gonna say. I feel like

867
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Speaker 1: we had him on here over the last year or two,

868
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: and you play mar pulling up.

869
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: On Ashley, like, yeah, baby, you got you got the one?

870
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: What's good girl, Morrison vibes. We're going to Cracker Barrel

871
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: an hour from now, Rick Carlisle. We'll we'll have Simon

872
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: Cordoposi join us at nine to thirty. He is Philip

873
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: Rivers defensive coordinator for Saint Michael's High School. I know

874
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: that got a ton of play during the game, obviously

875
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: the watch party and all of that. So he will

876
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: join us here coming up at nine point thirty to

877
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: discuss the other side of the movie. That is, Philip

878
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: Rivers will get another viewing of a national viewing of

879
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: it coming up on Mondays. Shane Sechin did confirm yesterday

880
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers will be the starter. I do want to

881
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: get to that here in just a second. One IU

882
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: football note from the weekend. We didn't get a chance

883
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: to hit on this yesterday, but I did see they

884
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: are They're retaining their defensive coordinator, Bryant Haynes and James.

885
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: When we've talked about Indiana this season, I think what

886
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: I've mentioned quite often is Fernana Mido is a very

887
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: deserving Heisman Trophy winner. But I think the best aspect

888
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: of their football teams are defense, and when you look

889
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: at it, their defense is not filled with you know,

890
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: the three million dollar transfer portal quarterback. Like Indiana has

891
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: had good offenses, yeah in you know, previous years, previous coaches,

892
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: but that defense, to me, and what Haynes has done

893
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: has just been unbelievable. And him stay, I think is

894
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: such an underrated aspect of what Kurt Signetti has done.

895
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: Like when you look around this playoff landscape, now you

896
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: see coordinators galore, all these playoff teams that are leaving.

897
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, you see head coaches in Lane Kiffen

898
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously the James Madison situation leaving. But

899
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: like look at Oregon. Both of their coordinators gone Ohio

900
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: State losing Brian Hartline to South Florida. The fact that Indiana,

901
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: with the coaching staff that's largely JMU guys, continue to

902
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: keep their coordinators is another major major credit to and

903
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: honestly it's probably not as certainly Kurts United deserves it,

904
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: but it's probably more of a credit to Scott Dolson

905
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: and Pam Whitten for financially making sure it's not just

906
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: all nil. When we make a financial commitment to our

907
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: football program, the assistant coaching pool needs to be right

908
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: up there with than anything else in terms of a

909
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: big time backing.

910
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think that is the bigger conversation is

911
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: what are you doing to invest in your program? Because

912
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: we know, especially in today's landscape for college football, as

913
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: soon as you get good, everyone gets gone. So how

914
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 2: do you retain your players and retain some of your staff?

915
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: And I think part of that is that financial aspect,

916
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: which is probably in most cases the biggest deciding factor.

917
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to speak out of turn here, but

918
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: I would think that hey, big money here versus elsewhere

919
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: is something you have to think over. And then also

920
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: as well, how much do you believe in the guy

921
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: leading the charge? And Kurt Signetti by all accounts or

922
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: is or has been a great influence for the program

923
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 2: and someone who empowers everyone else around him. So it

924
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like, I don't know, you're working for the

925
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: guy versus working with the guy.

926
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again that might not be like the most

927
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: sexy headline of Indiana here over the last few weeks,

928
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: certainly the Heisman Trophy and they're pending playoff run, but

929
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: I think that's just a really really key element. And again,

930
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: when you get these stories of the out of nowhere

931
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: program that reaches this national stage, inevitably the coordinators leave,

932
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: and you know, I get they had one go to

933
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: UCLA last year, but offensively it just doesn't matter as

934
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: much with Signetti's presence on that side of the ball.

935
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: So for them to bring back Brian Haynes, big big

936
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: win there for the Hoosiers. In the game situation, A

937
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: little bit of debate yesterday from some callers about the

938
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: Colts deciding to kick the sixty yarder and not go

939
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: for the fourth and three there. I think the thought

940
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: from some people is you go for first off. The

941
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: sixty yarder is a long shot. You go for the

942
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: fourth and three. If you get the fourth and three,

943
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: then you can milk the rest of the clock. Obviously

944
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: you still have to make a kick, but it'll be

945
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of a shorter kick theoretically, and you

946
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: don't give Seattle a chance to get the ball back.

947
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: Did you have any issue debate? Did that come up

948
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: at all in the postgame stuff?

949
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: Not for me, because it worked and you were looking

950
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: for your defense, which played great. I thought for most

951
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: of the day to have one more stop in them.

952
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: But your forty four year old quarterback gets you across

953
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 2: the fifty with a great back shoulder throw to Alec Pearce.

954
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: You get a couple more yards from a JT run

955
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: and a Tyler Warren catch and Blake Groupie, who again

956
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: the criticism for him is not really the distance, it's

957
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: the accuracy on some of the shorter kicks. He boots

958
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: a franchise record field goal, and you have perfect execution.

959
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: So I didn't look at it like they played scared

960
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: or they didn't go for it, because the same people

961
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: were saying they should have just went for or assuming

962
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: that they would have got it. If they don't get it,

963
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: and you lose without you having a chance to kick it.

964
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: Then you're saying, well, why did you let Blake Groupy

965
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: in Because he's a long distance field goal kicker. You

966
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: didn't give m a chance. So I can see both

967
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: sides of it. I just think ultimately the returns were

968
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: really hurt him Kevin the return because.

969
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: You gotta squib that down the middle.

970
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, having the ability to kind of get it out

971
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: there a little bit more, and I get that it

972
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: might have, you know, only been a couple of yards

973
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: or whatever versus like a touchback, but still you've got

974
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: to be able to contain a lot better. I think

975
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: on that final drive, and it starts with that play

976
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: which led to the other ones.

977
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: Obviously, I also think squibb it down the middle, it

978
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 1: strains a little bit more of that kickoff return unit

979
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: and being really sound fundamentally. I felt like on Sunday

980
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: we saw this from Seattle, and we've seen it quite

981
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: often this season. I feel like we're seeing a lot

982
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: of penalties. Holds, Yeah, blocks in the back, you're like

983
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: those sorts of things. I think when you swib it

984
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: down the middle, you you force that eleven to really

985
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, have to strain a bit here because that

986
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: returner there, it can go left or right. And as

987
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: soon as they start going that way and the kick

988
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: covered unit starts to you know, run.

989
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: At that point in that direction.

990
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: I think you also bring in penalties, and one penalty

991
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: there more or less ends the game if they've got

992
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: to start from their own ten or their own fifteen. Yeah,

993
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: absolutely mean the game is pretty much over now. Granted,

994
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: every time I say that, it's like have you seen

995
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: the cold Stefens finished games over the years.

996
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: That's probably frustrated too, And I understand a lot of

997
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: people saying, like, wow, it felt like deja vu. Where

998
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: your plan off? They get a couple of crossers in there,

999
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: they get a couple of first downs, and there's your

1000
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: game after playing so well throughout it, so I have

1001
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: to go back and look at it. I haven't a

1002
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: chance to really rewatch most of that game. Start to

1003
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: get some shut out on on the plane over. On

1004
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: the flight over yesterday, Yeah, how dare me? That was weird?

1005
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: But did you do Pipe's place? Did you do anything

1006
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: out there?

1007
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: Me and Joel and Steven Holder went to a restaurant

1008
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: and I have to look it up on my phone actually,

1009
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: and It was one of the best restaurants I've been

1010
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: in my life. It was like a Japanese Latin place

1011
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: that Joel remembered from years ago going to Seattle, and

1012
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: it was phenomenal. I can remember why he remembered it,

1013
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: or I can see why he remembered it.

1014
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: Who is the better laugh, Joela Ericson or Don Fisher.

1015
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I'm probably bias told towards Joel

1016
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: this because I hear it more often. But boy, both

1017
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,479
Speaker 2: are great. Both are great.

1018
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: That was my favorite part of sixty minutes. My favorite

1019
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: part of the IU football sixty minutes. And there are

1020
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: some Kurt signetty audio I do want to play, maybe

1021
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: coming up at eight thirty, But my favorite part. Have

1022
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: you guys watched it yet?

1023
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: I've seen bits and pieces, Yeah, bits and pieces.

1024
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: And mark any word on who we thought about trying

1025
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: to get on or no, not yet? Okay, the Don

1026
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: Fisher laugh. Making it to sixty minutes. I was like,

1027
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: this is complete, This is life has been complete that

1028
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: the entire world gets to hear the Don Fisher laugh.

1029
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. They interviewed Don Fisher, They

1030
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: interviewed John Bellencamp, frankly a lot in that there, and

1031
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: I know yesterday I was asking some people like is

1032
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: it worth watching? Like part of me thought they were

1033
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: just speaking more to the non sport Fanal Yeah, you know,

1034
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: because it's sixty minutes, But I actually did enjoy a

1035
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: good amount of I believe it's up on YouTube if

1036
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: people haven't, you know, maybe tuned in at ten to

1037
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: one to it if people haven't seen it yet. But

1038
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: we'll play some of the Kurt Signety audio in relation

1039
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: to that upcoming reminder, Rick Carlyle at nine to day,

1040
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson cleared from his eye. I think there was

1041
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of vagueness maybe around it. James, I

1042
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: want you to provide some context. But this was Shane

1043
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: Stike in yesterday in regards to the status of Anthony Richardson.

1044
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's cleared from the eye standpoint, but we're just

1045
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 7: starting to work him back in the physical activity of everything.

1046
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: So you know, the determination for him to return will

1047
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 3: be working through.

1048
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: That in a practice windows stuff like that.

1049
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, he just got back into physical activity, so

1050
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 7: we'll see how that can do it.

1051
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: John's your thoughts on physic and thank you for following

1052
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: up there. Your thought on physical activity means what?

1053
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I actually got some clarity from the Cults

1054
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: on this. The physical activity clearing means that he has

1055
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: resumed weightlifting, running, throwing. Now, football obviously involves a lot

1056
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: more than those things, and to be cleared from a

1057
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: football standpoint, like any other injury, he needs to have

1058
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: his return to play window opened for him to practice

1059
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 2: with the team.

1060
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 6: Now.

1061
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 2: That could happen as quickly as Thursday, or that could

1062
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: not happen as quickly as Thursday.

1063
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a slam dunk. He's back out

1064
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: there thirty exactly.

1065
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: And I want to make that very clear for our listeners,

1066
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: because Shame was very noncommittal about making any definitive statements

1067
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: on Anthony Richardson, whereas as alluded to earlier, he was

1068
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: very definitive. Philip Rivers is our starter. Philip Rivers has

1069
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 2: more in the tank physically, Yes, he can push it

1070
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: on the field more all of the above. He was

1071
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: very bullish on that, whereas with Anthony it was vague.

1072
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: So I will, and I think we all will press

1073
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 2: him more on this topic because it is a topic

1074
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: I know Shane might be sick of hearing about it,

1075
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 2: or he might be thinking, Hey, we're trying to get

1076
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. We got a game plan for the

1077
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. I can't be bothered with this other

1078
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: quick cuby situation. But hey, you're the head coach, and

1079
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: in theory, if he's healthy enough to play at any

1080
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: point this season, he was, as you alluded to, when

1081
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 2: he was on ir your backup quarterback. So in that case,

1082
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: if he's healthy enough to come back and play, he

1083
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 2: should be taking the reins. But that's a conversation we'll

1084
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: have if and when we cross that bridge.

1085
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: And again, apologies to people out there. I know we're

1086
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: having some audio issues out out there or you know,

1087
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: moved into a new building here and trying to get

1088
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: our best with that, so appreciate your patience and getting

1089
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: through all of that. If you do have any thoughts

1090
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: and opinions, we are definitely trying to troubleshoot all of that.

1091
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: So text line three, one, seven, two, three, nine, ten,

1092
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: seventy will take your thoughts on the YouTube stream and

1093
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get through all these hurdles here over the

1094
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: next week or so. Yeah, I largely agree with everything

1095
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: you just laid out there from a Richardson standpoint. You know,

1096
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: to me when I heard that yesterday, you know, there

1097
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: were several Richardson related follow ups. You know, I wanted

1098
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: to make it clear too. Okay, does that mean he's

1099
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: gonna practice Thursday? And like you said, Shane was noncommitted

1100
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: to that. There's been times where Shane said, yeah, we're

1101
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: gonna open up that guy's practice window.

1102
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's also times where it's try to cut

1103
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 2: you off there. Well people always say then they cut

1104
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: you off, but with all due respect, Yeah, let me

1105
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: just throw this in there real quick and I'll let you,

1106
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: you know, get back to it.

1107
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: I do think I'm the guy that told me to

1108
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: shut up.

1109
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna live that down right. You know the

1110
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 2: kids you're listening, Nelly, if you're listening, you know, please

1111
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: do not pick up any of my bad happens from

1112
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 2: Uncle jab. But Kevin, when I look at the QB situation,

1113
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: especially when it comes to Anthony, I do think there

1114
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: are times and yesterday was one of them when after

1115
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: the report comes out of Anthony being cleared, and you

1116
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: know you're gonna be asked about it, you need to

1117
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: be more forthcoming with information and just be definitive, because

1118
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: having a follow up three or four times to get

1119
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 2: bits and pieces and try to piece it all together

1120
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: makes it more confus using for everyone involved, because I

1121
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: would still say I'm a bit confused as to what

1122
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 2: he can or can't do, or what he has or

1123
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 2: hasn't done, because he thought us last week, Oh yeah,

1124
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: he was you know, he had got back to some

1125
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: of that stuff last week. Okay, Does that mean that

1126
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: he's closer last you know, now than he was last

1127
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: week or is he about the same. All of that

1128
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: to me makes it more frustrating if you're a fan

1129
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: trying to get information on still one of the more

1130
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: important players on your team.

1131
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a lot of merit to what

1132
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: you're saying there. I think some of the and again

1133
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: there's general vagueness, which wish Shane Stichen that's that's abundant.

1134
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: But I think some of it is also a reminder

1135
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: of he doesn't view Anthony Richardson as close. Like we

1136
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: had this debate maybe last week, James, I said to

1137
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: you and Jeff, who starts the most games the rest

1138
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: of the season, Philip Rivers, Riley Leondard or Anthony Richardson,

1139
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: And I'll ask that to you again today. Who starts? Well,

1140
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: we do know Richard, I.

1141
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: Was gonna say one for Rivers?

1142
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well two? Now the affair that he's going to

1143
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: s the San Francisco game, I guess, does anyone get

1144
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: to two and order the colt to make the playoffs?

1145
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: Is Riley leond or Anthony Richardson going to start the

1146
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: final two games like it's going In my opinion, it's

1147
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: going to be Philip Rivers. And as we mentioned earlier,

1148
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: they can't be eliminated from the playoffs this weekend, so

1149
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 1: you know, even for the for the crowd out there,

1150
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: which I totally hear you out of, Hey, once you're eliminated,

1151
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: if you're eliminated, you know, shouldn't that mean that you

1152
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: turn to one of the younger guys. The earliest that

1153
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: can happen, unless I'm missing something, would be week eighteen,

1154
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: So now you would need a ton to go your way?

1155
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: Was was Richardson in Seattle? By the way, they should

1156
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: have Buckner on the sidelines a couple of times. Did

1157
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: you see I.

1158
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 2: Couldn't tell, and I don't remember seeing him in the

1159
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: locker room, so I can't say where he was at.

1160
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to get myself in trouble there.

1161
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 5: Can I ask James what was the atmosphere for seatle

1162
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 5: because I always hear that that's one of the tougher

1163
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 5: environments to play and and everything. Does that live up

1164
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 5: to the hype the Twelfth Man and everything like that.

1165
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, granted we're in the prex And Kevin,

1166
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: have you been to Seattle?

1167
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty seventeen. The Colts play there on Sunday night football.

1168
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: I thought it was easily one of the liveliest environments

1169
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: that I've that I've been to.

1170
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: They're a football city now, the tailgating scene isn't the

1171
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: same as other places. Just see very unique places where

1172
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: they play. But Mark to you answer your question, Yeah,

1173
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: it was loud, man, It got very very loud, and honestly,

1174
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 2: it was eerie how loud they would get when Philip

1175
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: Rivers was lining up, versus how quiet you could hear

1176
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: a pin drop when they were on offense. So it definitely,

1177
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: in my opinion, is an advantage for that team. That

1178
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 2: stadium all it's cracked up to be.

1179
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 5: I've heard that's that's also one of the better outdoor

1180
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 5: stadiums just overall, it's just a very.

1181
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: Nice Yeah, it's a very nice stadium, and I thought

1182
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: even the press box area all that stuff was very

1183
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: nice as well. There aren't too many teams that I'll

1184
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: publicly say is this isn't too great. Cincinnati's one of them.

1185
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: That's a place where I'm like, eh, you know, you

1186
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 2: could as a billionaire, you could put the more money

1187
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: into this stuff, but Seattle the trude us.

1188
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: On the NFL rich level, I don't think Cincinnati is

1189
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: the poster child of that. To go back to Richardson

1190
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: for just a second, you know, again, from a medical standpoint,

1191
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: this is where I just kind of shrugged my shoulders,

1192
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: like I by all accounts, this was an extremely serious injury,

1193
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: not just a football like a human injury, like vision

1194
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: impacted injury. I mean, he it looked like last week

1195
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,959
Speaker 1: I practice James and he was out there for mental reps.

1196
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: It looked like he was rocking some sort of respect situation.

1197
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, Horace Grant.

1198
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like clearly there's something there as well. And

1199
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: like how much physical activity is he allowed to do

1200
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,959
Speaker 1: in the last two months? I would venture to guess

1201
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: not a lot, Right, isn't the orbital fracture.

1202
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: Having to settle people who have ever had that injury,

1203
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: and I'm one of them, but if you read about it,

1204
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: it is very, very painful and you have to be

1205
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: very very careful with everything you do. One of the

1206
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: advised things that they tell you to try not to

1207
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: do his sneeze or put any pressure on your face.

1208
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: You can't even sleep face down if you have an

1209
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: orbital fracture, sleep on your back, sleep sitting up like

1210
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: things like that where you have dressed. Yeah, you can't run,

1211
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: and people were making fun of me for making that distinction,

1212
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: but just think about it. If you run, the amount

1213
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 2: of force that you're putting into your foot that goes

1214
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: back up through the rest of your body. If you're

1215
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: running and you're pounding on some pavement, on some grass,

1216
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: on some turf, that shakes your face, what do you

1217
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: not want to shake the fracture orbital that you have.

1218
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: So the recovery is very long and it is extensive.

1219
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: But to the other side of it, if he is

1220
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: cleared enough to now do those things, then how cuickly

1221
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: can you get up to speed? And does you playing

1222
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: an NFL game?

1223
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1224
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: And again just to be clear, if and when he's cleared.

1225
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: I have one thousand percent believe he should be playing

1226
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: whenever he is up to speed. And I say that

1227
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: in quo.

1228
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: So for example, if they say if he gets through

1229
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: this week and they reopen his window, what ever, and

1230
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: they elevate him or they say he's good to go

1231
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 2: next week, Yes, regardless of what happens with Philip Rivers.

1232
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: Even if they win the game with Philip Rivers.

1233
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: Well, I have to live in riality and know the

1234
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: Colts would never go to Richardson if Rivers were to

1235
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: win the game. If Rivers looks like anything what I

1236
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: saw in Seattle, it easter b Richardson. That offense is

1237
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: archaic with him, It's a dinosaur offense. It's an offense

1238
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: that and you listen to Shane's second yesterday, any borderline

1239
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: acknowledges that. But he also says that was the game

1240
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: plan for Seattle. Wait till you see Monday night, Wait

1241
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: I get back in the lab is to be cooking up.

1242
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: That was more or less what he said. He feels

1243
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: like there was a lot more vertically down the field

1244
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: that they did not get to, and that makes me sweat.

1245
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers are tempting the ball more than ten yards

1246
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: down the field makes me sweat And Mark Dyton said

1247
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: earlier he enjoyed my aroma. He wouldn't like it right now.

1248
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: Got a little of a funk going on. You're saying

1249
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: Pitts are sweaty.

1250
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: So basically, Philip Rivers is Walter Wright, and Ryan Leonard

1251
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: is Jesse Pinkman.

1252
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: Mister White Corlo sounds just like it, Rick Carlisle at nine,

1253
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: let's say a morning checkdown.

1254
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 6: The morning checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh

1255
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 6: seven five the fan.

1256
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mifter White, Yes, science again the Folts quarterback death

1257
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: charge come for Monday. I believe James is gonna be

1258
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: the same that we saw in Seattle. We know Philip

1259
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: Rivers will indeed to be the starter. We'll await Anthony

1260
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: Richardson's potential return to practice. But are you under the

1261
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: assumption it is Rivers, Leonard Brett Rippin again here on

1262
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: Monday night?

1263
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: That's what I would expect. Yes, but I'm very curious

1264
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: to see again, what are you doing this week with

1265
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, Because the conversation is only going to get

1266
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: louder from here on out.

1267
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: Yew Bernard Ryman's status up in the air with that

1268
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: elbow injury. For what it's worth, he did stay in uniform.

1269
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: You know, CBS showed that big ol' uh you know,

1270
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: bandage rap what everyone's call on the elbow. I'm curious, like,

1271
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: what do you have gone in in the emergency situation

1272
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: at that point. They did work out for offensive tackles yesterday,

1273
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: so it sounds like that is iffy. Let's switch to

1274
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: the Forest, Buckner and Sauce Gardner all off. For my thoughts,

1275
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: I'd say Buckner. I think there's a real chance. Gardner

1276
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: is a little.

1277
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: Bit more of a coin flip for me. I'm probably

1278
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: there as well. Clearly this weekend practice will tell us

1279
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: a lot. But the calves are always tricky, and he

1280
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: just hasn't had the same amount of time off that

1281
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: DeForest Buckner has had, and the Forest definitely hinted that

1282
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: he has not done this year last week. But I

1283
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: also picked up on okay, you're probably not gonna play

1284
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: in Seattle because he said he wants to go day

1285
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: by day. So that dude I was good to play

1286
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 2: at some point again this year. Not sure what happened

1287
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: with Sauce Gardner or what will happen rather with Sauce Gardner.

1288
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: You guys surprised at all about the early line for

1289
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: Colts and forty nine Ers here.

1290
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: I haven't looked at it yet.

1291
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: Five and a half Is that what it is?

1292
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: Five and a half for the Niners favorite?

1293
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: Yes, San Francisco favorite.

1294
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: Five and interesting. I wont if that'll drop a little

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01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: bit as we closer to that game.

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Speaker 1: All right, Monday Night Football last night, Aaron Rodgers, I'd

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01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: say he turned back to clock a little bit there.

1298
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: Dk Metcalf had one of the more impressive post catch

1299
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: touchdown runs that I've seen here this season. His physicality

1300
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: on full display. Steelers over the Dolphins, So that eliminates

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01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: Miami Pittsburgh in Baltimore in the AFC North fight, and

1302
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: whoever doesn't win that division they could be in the

1303
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: mix with the Colts. So just something to monitor here

1304
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: as we are down to nine AFC teams for seven

1305
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 1: playoff spots. By the way, Thursday Night Football this week

1306
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: is a great one for out West that I'll have

1307
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: some Mark Dyton attention on it. Seahawks and Rams as

1308
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: they compete with the Bears and some others there for

1309
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: the number one seed out West. Your appointment viewing tonight

1310
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: on the hardwood. Couple eight thirty tips in the NBA,

1311
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: it will be the NBA Cup. This is Spurs and

1312
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: Nicks the nixt of one, nine of ten. They beat

1313
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: the Magic over the weekend in the semi final. The

1314
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: Spurs pulled off the upset over the Thunder. Victor webya

1315
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: that is back. He came off the bench and was

1316
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: outstanding in that win over the Thunder. So we got

1317
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: Spurs and Knicks tonight. James Boyd looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am.

1319
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: This is for all the marbles.

1320
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: This is where legacies are legacy. Maybe the NBA Cup.

1321
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: The Pacers made it to the finals a few years

1322
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: ago and they made it to the finals.

1323
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: Shortly thereafter trying to think was it the Lakers? Is

1324
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: that to beat the Pacers in there?

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01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 6: It was.

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01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,479
Speaker 2: I remember this because it would have been so great

1327
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 2: to handle.

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01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: The Celtics right in the quarterfinals. Then the Bucks.

1329
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's back when Halliburton was a top ten game

1330
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: time celebration. I know I need him to be back

1331
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 2: healthy again, get well soon. Tyres love to see the

1332
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: progress on Peacock.

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01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: Tonight it will be Butler and Thad Madas Bunch after

1334
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: their double overtime thriller at Hinkle. On Saturday, they are

1335
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: at Yukon as a fifteen and a half point underdog.

1336
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: Butler's done a lot early on this season to create

1337
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: an NCAA tournament resume. This would be obviously a huge,

1338
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: huge aspect if they could pull this off. It's the

1339
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: biggest house money game Butler will have all season long.

1340
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: For what it's worth, they were very competitive with Dan

1341
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: Hurley's bunch in both games last year, but could not

1342
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: get it done. So I did see Jalen Jackson out

1343
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: for the year for Butler.

1344
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 4: James.

1345
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: We went to practice just before the start of the season.

1346
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Jackson, I believe he led the Horizon League in

1347
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: scoring last year. I think he was gonna be a

1348
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: key piece played in about a handful of games. I

1349
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a double digit score for Butler.

1350
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: That puts even more pressure on Finley, Bizjack and Michael

1351
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: Jaie moving forward. That is a notable loss for the Bulldogs.

1352
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that hurts and I remember watching that practice. Kevin

1353
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: he can really shoot it too. He would have give

1354
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: him the more spacing and more freedom to move on off,

1355
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: and so without that, things get definitely, like you said,

1356
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: a lot tougher in your top guys.

1357
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: Shout out to Miles McLaughlin. He was your Mister Football

1358
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: winner in the state of Indiana.

1359
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 2: Should have been unanimous.

1360
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: Sixty four percent of the vote. And worse, I'm saying

1361
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: that's petty coaches not wanting to show respect to the

1362
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: three eight kid.

1363
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 2: I think that is a certain level of that. Yes,

1364
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: if he had played six A, the conversation would have

1365
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: been a lot different about who he is as a player.

1366
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying good or bad. I just think

1367
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 2: that people put too much stock into that sometimes, especially

1368
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,439
Speaker 2: when it comes to high school sports. The dude broke

1369
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 2: every record imaginable this year for a.

1370
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: National single season record four and forty six rushing yards,

1371
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: and he gets sixty four percent of the Mister Football vote. Hell,

1372
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: he had eight interceptions as a defender.

1373
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 2: Will he not do it in the right?

1374
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 6: You know?

1375
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 2: Conference?

1376
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: And we had this debate a few years ago with

1377
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: Jack Kaiser and David Bell. You know, that was a

1378
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: very popular debate. I probably have to go back and

1379
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: look at what the voting was back then. Jet Goldsbery.

1380
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: I guess another smaller school guy for a he was

1381
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: your runner up. He's off the Purdue next year. Jeremy

1382
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: Finch third, Kashmir Hicks from Decatur Central fourth, and Matt

1383
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: Miles McLaughlin by the way, off to Murray State for

1384
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: his college. Agree all right. On the other side, I

1385
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: did think Kurtzignetti had quite the old school Kurtzignetti comment

1386
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: to sixty minutes. We'll play some of that audio. Much

1387
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: more on the cult situation as they head into a

1388
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: week of Monday Night football. Rick Carlisle at nine, Fan

1389
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: Morning Chow, Kevin Bowe and James Boyd.

1390
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 6: As you were listening to the Fan Morning Show on

1391
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 6: Sports Radio ninety three to five and one oh seven five.

1392
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 3: The fan.

1393
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: Minder, Rick Carlisle at nine. An hour from now, we

1394
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: will chat with the defensive coordinator for Philip Rivers. Yes,

1395
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: Saint Michael's Catholic. He's also the athletic director down there,

1396
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: Simon cord A Posse.

1397
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: I thought we were talking to Lloyd Romo.

1398
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: Joins us here coming up at nine thirty. Joked and

1399
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: serious with James Boyd. The last two weeks we've had

1400
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: two high school coaches outside of the state of Indiana.

1401
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we've ever had one in the

1402
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: history of our show, but Dave Dunn shout out that

1403
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendez's high school coach who was at the Heisman

1404
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: ceremony enjoyed that. That was last Tuesday, if I'm not mistaken,

1405
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: and today we will get the Rivers connection from fair Hope, Alabama.

1406
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: We do this each year. We'll probably start it up

1407
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: here coming up, maybe next segment, but we count down

1408
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: the top sports stories of the year. We try to

1409
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: do a list ten to one here, keep it to

1410
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: the state of Indiana, of course, So howeveryone to interpret that?

1411
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: The top ten sports stories of the twenty twenty five

1412
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: calendar year. We'll start our countdown here coming up in

1413
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: a few You said you've not had a chance to

1414
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: watch the sixty minute piece. You said, just some clips from.

1415
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: It, just clips. I feel like the only thing I've

1416
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: watched him full over the last couple of days late

1417
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 2: to sports besides the Games, of course, was the Fernando

1418
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 2: Mendoz the Heisman speech, which was awesome.

1419
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: By the way, boy that Matty Bowe and some tears

1420
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: I saw he had the Heisman trophy in Bloomington yesterday

1421
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: did some local media rounds and boy, I think Mendoza

1422
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: probably should be done for the media standpoint. But the

1423
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: program gets to keep one Heisman trophy. Then Fernando Mendoza

1424
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: gets to keep on himself.

1425
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 4: Mark.

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01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: When you cow up this sixty minute audio, you know, again,

1427
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: if you watched the full I think it's about a

1428
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: fifteen minute piece, you know, there is probably a lot

1429
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: of stuff that to the common sports fan, our listening audience.

1430
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 4: They know.

1431
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: But Signetti had a reminder of why he was so

1432
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: brash in the first twenty four to forty eight hours

1433
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: of taking the job. And I think it's an interesting

1434
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: angle to the Signetti story. He's, naturally, I think, a

1435
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: pretty cocky individual. But James, the viral clips have also

1436
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 1: not been as abundant the last twelve to eighteen months.

1437
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: And to hear him explain it, he walked into that

1438
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: athletic department, he was like, this is a damn morgue

1439
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 1: and we can't have that. Like, there's got to be

1440
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: some belief and if.

1441
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: No one walking in Jesus Christ, I hold on now,

1442
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 2: raise up, everybody, raise up?

1443
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: Amen? Can I get an amen? And no one said

1444
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: anything when Kurt Signetti walked in there. This was sick

1445
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: on sixty minutes rehashing some of that.

1446
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 2: Did you come in here with a bit of a

1447
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: chip on your shoulder?

1448
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 8: The chip probably came from when I got here.

1449
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: Right away.

1450
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 8: I detected an atmosphere that you can't get it done here. Oh, absolutely,

1451
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 8: soon as I walked in the building, facilities that had

1452
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 8: been neglected, the stadium banners that looked old, the offices

1453
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 8: that looked like they were from nineteen eighty. And then

1454
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 8: you know, just the general attitude of the people I met,

1455
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 8: the lack of excitement.

1456
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:44,879
Speaker 2: Coming from a winning program.

1457
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 8: He was, well, I was furious pretty much because all

1458
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 8: we did was win conference championships.

1459
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: Year and year out. There's just thatture old school.

1460
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I mean we went and so it was

1461
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 8: a clashing of two worlds, and I wasn't going to

1462
01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:59,480
Speaker 8: lower my standards.

1463
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 3: You know.

1464
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: I think some of the produce sucks, Ohio State sucks.

1465
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: You know, maybe even the Google me. I think a

1466
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: lot of that stem from what he experienced in those

1467
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: first really few hours in the job of do you

1468
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: guys know my background, Like I'm not used. I mean,

1469
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: you arguably had one of the best winners we've had

1470
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,839
Speaker 1: in college football, just purely from a win loss standpoint

1471
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: over the last decade, meet one of the losing US

1472
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: programs in college football. Obviously that spans a lot more

1473
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: than Kurtzignetti's coaching career, and so when those two clash,

1474
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: there's I guess only one way to go, and the

1475
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: new leader of that was going to insert himself in

1476
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: a major, major way. By the way that voice you

1477
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: heard John Wertheim, who you know is a long time journalist,

1478
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: particularly a sports journalist as well. He's actually a Bloomington native.

1479
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: I thought he did a great job on the piece.

1480
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 3: Mark.

1481
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: You said he's going to join us tomorrow at eight correct, yep.

1482
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: He also I want to make sure we ask him tomorrow.

1483
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: He has written a piece already on the fifty year

1484
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: anniversary of the Undefeated seventy sixteen, and this is the

1485
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: fifty year anniversary, I guess for those that if not

1486
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,720
Speaker 1: fall the calendar, So do you want to chat with

1487
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: John about that? But he will join us tomorrow at

1488
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: eight o'clock to get more into that. So for people

1489
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: that have not watched the sixty minute piece, I think

1490
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: they will enjoy it. One of the comments too, that

1491
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: I thought really resonated to me. I joked and was

1492
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, James. The fact that Don Fisher's

1493
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: laugh made it onto sixty minutes was the only thing

1494
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 1: I needed to see that made me smile greatly. But

1495
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: I thought Phish had one of the more accurate statements

1496
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: in regards to the biggest difference in the Indiana football

1497
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 1: program right now, and your alma mater felt it firsthand

1498
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: back in September. The fact that Indiana actually has legit

1499
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: offensive and defensive linemen is probably the biggest difference. They've

1500
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: had good skill talent they I mean, they've had pro hell,

1501
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: Tracy Porter made one of the biggest plays in Super

1502
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: Bowl history. Help, they've got quarterbacks that have gone in

1503
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: an NFL jersey. But the offensive and defensive lines, the

1504
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: fact that they are championship level, and again, Illinois felt

1505
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: the brunt of it earlier this season. I thought when

1506
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: Fish said that it was one of the more accurate

1507
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: statements in him discussing the biggest difference he sees with

1508
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: this iteration of the Hoosiers compared to previous.

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Speaker 2: I think he made that statement because you're further from

1510
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: me than we were in the old office. You didn't

1511
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 2: have to bring that up.

1512
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 3: You could have.

1513
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 2: You could have just made you point without bringing up

1514
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 2: Illinois getting their teeth kicked in, and boy do I

1515
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: mean teeth all of them? At this point we might

1516
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 2: need veneers to replace the smile.

1517
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 1: How many sacks was it in that game?

1518
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 3: Was it?

1519
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. All I remember was being in a

1520
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 2: bar in Nashville with Matt Taylor and he was gracious

1521
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 2: enough not to talk trash to me after every single score.

1522
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 2: And there were a lot of them. Some coach trainer,

1523
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: I forget his name, he walks over, hadn't seen him

1524
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 2: only on game days he comes crawling over. How about

1525
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 2: those hoosiers? So yes, I would agree the trenches are

1526
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: what made me a believer. And also on a more

1527
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 2: serious note, beyond beating Illinois, because who cares about that?

1528
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 2: When you had to play the big boy Ohio State

1529
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 2: who had owned you for thirty plus years, the trenches

1530
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 2: was a difference. You didn't get pushed around a couple

1531
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: of those third and ones, fourth and ones, whatever they were.

1532
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 2: You one those because your guys were big enough, strong enough,

1533
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: well coached enough to gain leverage and really put the

1534
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: other team at your will. So that was very impressive

1535
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: to me. And why I you should have a chance

1536
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: against anybody else the rest of.

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01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: The way, Alex chiming in here Signetti had to insert

1538
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: himself and not in the shron more way.

1539
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 2: I shouldn't laugh at that, but boy, yeah, is that

1540
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: too soon? It probably is too soon? But and cursing

1541
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: that he's defense he has nothing to do with that.

1542
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: Lord have mercy, boy Alex.

1543
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: I laughed really hard at that internally, and I think

1544
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: James Boyd's response told you everything there Again. Reminder, Indiana

1545
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: will find out their opponent here coming up Friday nights,

1546
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: will get Alabama and Oklahoma in the first round of

1547
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: the playoff game. We'll have three of them on Saturday,

1548
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 1: and you'll get game one coming up on Friday. All right,

1549
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: much more on where the Colts stand, quarterback, why Shane

1550
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: Stikeen is bullish, on what's going to be different with

1551
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers here in week two, we'll start our top

1552
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: ten countdown list of the best sports stories in Indiana

1553
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty five and twenty minutes from now,

1554
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: it'll be Rick Carlisle here Fan Morning show on a Tuesday.

1555
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 6: If you are listening to a fan morning show on

1556
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 6: Sports Radio ninety three to five and one oh seven.

1557
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle. In less than fifteen minutes, we'll start our

1558
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: countdown top sports stories in the state of Indiana ten

1559
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: to one as we close out twenty twenty five calendar year.

1560
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: We will do that here coming up in a few

1561
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: to keep everybody abreast of the quarterback situation. Indeed, it

1562
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: will be Philip Rivers for a second straight week. The

1563
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: Colts will push everything back a day here in week

1564
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: sixteen due to their Monday night schedule, So practice Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

1565
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 1: Sunday walkthrough then Monday night inside of Lucas Oil Stadium. James,

1566
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 1: I'll go back to what I said to lead off

1567
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: the show. A lot of conjecture yesterday about hey, should

1568
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: they opt for Wiley Leonard. Oh wait a minute, Anthony

1569
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: Richardson has been cleared. I go back to the final

1570
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: answer Shane Stiken gave yesterday in that zoom call again

1571
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: about fifteen related quarterback questions before that in the most

1572
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: shanstike in way, not in a mad yelling way, but

1573
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: I thought you had a rare instance where he cracked

1574
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: a little bit where he was tired of all the questions,

1575
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: and the quote might not jump off the page at you,

1576
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: but I could feel it in his voice when asked

1577
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: a question I wanted to say it was more Lendard

1578
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: related than anything. In the middle of the statement, talking

1579
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: about Philip Rivers, he said, simply, we didn't bring him

1580
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: here to sit on the bench. I'll say that. And

1581
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: if you heard nothing else yesterday from the Colts other

1582
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: than that quote, that tells you everything you need to

1583
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,839
Speaker 1: know about how Shane Styken views Philip Rivers in regards

1584
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: to the starting quarterback position.

1585
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 2: Should he view it differently?

1586
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do think Again, I think we could be

1587
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: splitting hairs, but I think Radley Leonard could definitely offer

1588
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: you a bigger ceiling. But maybe Shane views it as

1589
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: the higher floor. And maybe I'm not giving Philip enough

1590
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 1: credit for get him in the right place. I just

1591
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: think when you can't throw the ball more than ten yards,

1592
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe that'll change Monday night. Second was

1593
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: bullish on that yesterday, he was bullish. There's more there

1594
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: vertically with his offense. My question would be is there?

1595
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: And I guess we'll find out Monday Because Leonard would

1596
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: also give you a little bit more of a run threat,

1597
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: which is not just him running it. Go back to

1598
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: the first third down conversion Leonard had in Jacksonville. That

1599
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: was him scrambling outside of the pocket. Yeah, finding Alex

1600
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: Pearce for what that would have been the biggest play

1601
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: of the Colt tatt in Seattle.

1602
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1603
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: And it does give you some run pass options scenarios

1604
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 2: and some zone read stuff. I don't want to get

1605
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,799
Speaker 2: too much into the football jargon for those listening, but basically,

1606
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 2: it gives you two options to run the ball, Riley

1607
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: Leonard and Jonathan Taylor. And if you schemo a couple

1608
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 2: of plays involving those two, you're gonna make the defense

1609
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 2: guess which one keeps the ball, which one has the ball,

1610
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,799
Speaker 2: and does do you get an extra two three yards

1611
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,799
Speaker 2: off a couple of carries because the defense is guessing

1612
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 2: wrong versus knowing. For example, if you try to I

1613
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: don't know, deceive or fool the defense with Philip River

1614
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 2: is no one's gonna fall for because he's not running

1615
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: the ball. So that to me is a factor as well.

1616
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 2: But I think while push back on some of what

1617
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 2: Shane is saying, is the fact that physically. I'm just

1618
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 2: not sure if Phili Rivers can do it, because we

1619
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: know how aggressive Shane is typically on offense, even when

1620
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 2: he's facing a great secondary. That was not that aggressive,

1621
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 2: and I think part of that was because of the

1622
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 2: limitations to your quarterback's arm. It's as simple as that.

1623
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: Mark, I'm gonna pivot a little bit. Let's do our

1624
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: countdown here coming up in our final segment today we

1625
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: got Rick carlof nine and then at nine point thirty

1626
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Philip Rivers defensive coordinator Simon Cordo Possi

1627
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: from down there at Saint Michael's High.

1628
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: What else some becktalk from Mark there obviously, well, throwing.

1629
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: It all out the window now I'm used to it here,

1630
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm starting to realize we won't have a ton of

1631
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: Coult shatter maybe the rest of the way, So I

1632
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: wanted to focus a little bit more on it here.

1633
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: I think my biggest maybe unknown from what Stichen said yesterday,

1634
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: was just again, how much more vertical can this passing

1635
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: game get? Because that's our points to Saturn is Sunday's

1636
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: game against Seattle. Obviously, Philip Rivers managed that operation really well.

1637
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: You stayed out of negative plays, you were able to

1638
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: control field position. You you know, hit on a couple

1639
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: of key third downs that allowed you to get into

1640
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: field goal range. Obviously found downs on the third down

1641
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: there inside the ten for the for the touchdown. But

1642
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: that offense and the lack of downfield threat, to me,

1643
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,599
Speaker 1: is not sustainable at all. It's you know, you had

1644
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: your lowest yards per play all season long, one of

1645
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: the lowest we've seen even in the NFL this year.

1646
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: That to me, is not a recipe for success. It

1647
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: puts so much stress on your defense. I mean, you

1648
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: would say that the Colts defense played their best game

1649
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: of the season, certainly their best fifty eight minutes of

1650
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: the season.

1651
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

1652
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: You fourth sure you kicked the hell out of the ball.

1653
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: You barely had any penalties. Honestly, one of the best

1654
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: penalties you had was your own false start, which allowed

1655
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: you not to be stuffed on fourth and one. I

1656
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 1: don't recall many drops then he fumbles anything like that,

1657
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: and you definitely didn't have that in Jacksonville the previous week.

1658
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: So you have to get more out of your offense,

1659
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 1: and that's where I sit here. I agree, But what

1660
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: more can be there?

1661
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 2: That is true, But it goes back to the conversation

1662
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 2: you had earlier Kevin about the floor versus the ceiling,

1663
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 2: where I.

1664
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 1: Do there Michael Jordan quote in there about the floor

1665
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: in the ceiling.

1666
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 2: The roof is the ceiling is what he said, And

1667
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 2: I was thinking, male boar that North Carolina education. I

1668
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: don't know if he finished a degree or not, but

1669
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 2: that made no sense. Shout out to the goat, Michael Jordan.

1670
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 2: But also when it comes to the floor of the ceiling,

1671
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: I think part of the reason why Shane is so

1672
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: beholden to Philip is because he knows he won't make

1673
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 2: the catastrophic mistake. And perhaps that is a bigger piece

1674
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 2: of the pie than we're giving it credit for. And

1675
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I agree with that thinking because you

1676
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 2: got to take some risks in this game of life

1677
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 2: and in this game of football. See if you want

1678
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: to automately go out and win a game versus not

1679
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 2: lose a game. But it comes down to whether or

1680
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: not you trust Riley to read defenses, keep you out

1681
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: of danger, keep you out of trouble. And is that

1682
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,799
Speaker 2: something where the clear advantage is the guy who's played

1683
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 2: in you know, two hundred games.

1684
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 1: Again, we're probably splitting hairs, to be honest with you.

1685
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 1: You know, if we want to look at the very

1686
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: small sample size of Riley Leonard against Jacksonville and Philip

1687
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 1: Rivers against the Seahawks. Again, different defenses, different practice plans,

1688
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: certainly different looking quarterbacks. You know, they both largely reach

1689
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: the same end total from a point and production standpoint.

1690
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: But again, the story right now is it will be

1691
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers for a second straight week. I don't get

1692
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: the impression Anthony Richardson is close to putting on a

1693
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: uniform in a meaningful game action scenario. I know that

1694
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 1: was a hot button topic yesterday, but I would say

1695
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: don't hold your breath for that anytime soon. Much more

1696
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: on that upcoming. On the other side. It at nine

1697
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 1: o'clock on a Tuesday, good Tuesday morning to you. The

1698
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: sun is out, so hell feels balmy outside compared to

1699
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 1: what we've had to deal with here in recent days.

1700
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 1: And as we said to lead off the show, kind

1701
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: of a quiet week from a sports standpoint at night,

1702
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 1: and that includes the NBA team And let's talk with

1703
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: the head coach of the NBA team here locally, Rick

1704
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: Carlisle joins us right now. Pacers off until Thursday. They

1705
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,560
Speaker 1: will take on the New York Knicks as they get restarted.

1706
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: If you will amidst the NBA Cup coach, good morning

1707
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: to you.

1708
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 4: How you doing.

1709
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 3: Doing all right?

1710
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: Some rare practice time for you, guys. I know you've

1711
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: had a little bit here, but you get an opportunity

1712
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: to be on the floor later today. What will be

1713
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: the focus for you practice wise this week?

1714
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 3: Getting better out end to the floor. You know, we

1715
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 3: had some time last week and we did some okay

1716
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 3: things in the in the two games, really more of

1717
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 3: the Philadelphia game than the Washington game. In the Washington

1718
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 3: game was it was a very poor performance. But we've

1719
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:12,879
Speaker 3: got to keep working and to keep working at making progress.

1720
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 2: Rick, When you look at the defensive effort, particularly when

1721
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: it comes to the Wizards game, what things stand out

1722
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 2: to you about what has to change for your team

1723
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 2: to obviously play with more effort and winning those types

1724
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 2: of contests.

1725
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 3: Just at the beginning of the game are our level

1726
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 3: of everything has got to be better. We somehow came

1727
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 3: to the first quarter with a one point lead. We

1728
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 3: had we had a couple of threes that banked in

1729
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 3: and we just had some some odd things happened that

1730
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 3: positioned us to be ahead in that game. It was

1731
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 3: it was fool's gold obviously because you know Washington was

1732
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 3: just playing with more or presence more for course, you

1733
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,759
Speaker 3: know all those all those words you you're me frequently

1734
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 3: talking about. We had, yeah, checond and third quarters were

1735
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 3: very poor and we got behind the eight ball, and

1736
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 3: uh it was it was too much to come back

1737
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 3: from sous plenty to work on, get.

1738
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: The basically back to practice today, back on the court

1739
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: game wise, coming up Thursday will be the next for

1740
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: Carlisle with us here on the Payloss Slickers hotline. Coach.

1741
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure it happens at other points in the season,

1742
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: but you will get an opportunity tonight where the team

1743
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: that you play next is the standalone game and you,

1744
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: I guess get to watch that live. I'm curious when

1745
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: those opportunities do arise over the course of the season.

1746
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: You get Nick Spurs tonight NBA Cup Championship game and

1747
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 1: then you will see them on Thursday in your own building.

1748
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: How much of a live scouting look does that offer you?

1749
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: And what I guess benefit, if at all, is there

1750
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: from that.

1751
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 3: Well, when you say live, you mean just watching the

1752
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 3: game in real time, right, right, I guess that. Yeah,

1753
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,759
Speaker 3: I mean there's no other games obviously, as you mentioned,

1754
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, you can do that, and that's uh, you know,

1755
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 3: that's that's a compelling game tonight. You know, both both

1756
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 3: the games in the Cup semi final we were terrific games.

1757
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 3: You know, I thought the New York Orlando game was

1758
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 3: physical and competitive, and then you know the the Oklahoma

1759
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 3: San Antonio game was was very very interesting. So, uh,

1760
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 3: this is a great matchup tonight. You know, the way

1761
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 3: this happens, where this works is, you know, from a

1762
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 3: logistics standpoint, if if we choose we needing, the coaching

1763
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 3: staff choose not to watch it live in real time.

1764
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 3: So in other words, we have we have interns that

1765
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 3: break down the games, do what we call cutting.

1766
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 4: The games, and.

1767
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 3: So that means we will get the game emailed to

1768
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 3: us in a format where you can download it pretty

1769
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 3: quickly and you can watch the game start to finish

1770
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 3: with all the dead time taken out. So you know,

1771
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 3: that means you can watch a toll in me a

1772
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 3: game and you know, about an hour and if you

1773
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 3: skim through it, you can watch it and you know,

1774
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 3: pretty and significantly less amount of time. The advantage to

1775
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 3: that is is obvious. You don't have the lags of

1776
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 3: the commercials et cetera. But yeah, I mean, this is

1777
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna I'll be watching this tonight. This

1778
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 3: is gonna be it's gonna be a heck of the game,

1779
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 3: I you know, and you know New York I presumably

1780
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 3: that will stay over and travel tomorrow, and you know

1781
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 3: we'll catch them coming off the finals and and uh,

1782
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 3: you know, we'll have to take advantage of the opportunity.

1783
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: First placers, next matchup of the season. Coach, I want

1784
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: to expand a little bit more on that kind of

1785
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 1: curious about, you know, from a preparation standpoint, over the

1786
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: course of the season, like for a back to back,

1787
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 1: for example, if you're playing on a Friday and then

1788
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: again on a Saturday, how much of that Saturday opponent

1789
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: are you able to watch? Do you get just do

1790
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: you cram? I guess, do you eliminate the Friday film

1791
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: when you wake up Saturday morning? Do you watch you know,

1792
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 1: their last couple of games? Do you watch specifically you know,

1793
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 1: certain cutups? As you mentioned, how do you treat maybe

1794
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: the second night of a back to back from a

1795
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: film watching standpoint, over the course of the season.

1796
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 3: Really it's the preppers. Each game, you know, each member

1797
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 3: of the coaching staff will have will be responsible for

1798
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 3: a scout. So you know, one of our coaches has

1799
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 3: New York and in this case, you know we have

1800
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 3: a couple of days to prep. So today, well, we'll

1801
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 3: focus very much on ourselves and things we need to

1802
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 3: do better as a team, the next opponent notwithstanding, and

1803
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 3: then you know tomorrow we'll be more of a day

1804
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 3: gear toward preparation for the Knicks game. So that's kind

1805
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 3: of how it works. So the when you have a

1806
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 3: back to back, like for example, we play, we play

1807
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 3: on a Thursday somewhere, and then we play on a

1808
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 3: Friday somewhere, whether it's whether the Friday game is home

1809
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 3: or on the road. Oftentimes, if the other team is

1810
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 3: playing back to back as well, we will get their

1811
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 3: game from the previous night before we take off on

1812
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 3: the plane after the game, so you know they'll cut,

1813
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 3: they'll cut that game very quickly, et cetera. And so

1814
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 3: then you know you have the game that you played

1815
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,560
Speaker 3: that night to look at, and then you also have

1816
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 3: the the the opponent's last game, and then as you prepare,

1817
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 3: you if you've played them already this season, you certainly

1818
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 3: will look at the last game that you played against them,

1819
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:15,600
Speaker 3: and you'll look for things to to do, uh, to

1820
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 3: do better obviously, or to to do differently.

1821
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 2: Rick, looking at some of the numbers you have had

1822
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: this season offensively, I know you've talked about it at length,

1823
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 2: you know, not necessarily being who you are. Typically when

1824
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 2: you have Halliburton out there, how much easier he makes

1825
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 2: things for you, guys. But in this Wizard's game, in

1826
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 2: other games throughout the season, when you shoot it that poorly,

1827
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 2: how do you grade the results? I know it's the

1828
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 2: results based league and you want to make shots, but

1829
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 2: do you go back through it and say, this is

1830
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 2: a good shot, this was the batch shot. How do you,

1831
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,640
Speaker 2: you know, view that part of it when you know

1832
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,719
Speaker 2: there's more to it than just making the missing shots.

1833
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have different metrics, you know too. You know

1834
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 3: there's a NIX expected shot production metric that's pretty interesting

1835
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:09,879
Speaker 3: and and I believe it has some real accuracy elements

1836
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 3: to it. We we did not score well on that

1837
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 3: in the Wizards game. You know, we just didn't play well,

1838
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 3: and we didn't generate generate enough great shots, and and

1839
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 3: we didn't defend well enough, and so you know, it

1840
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 3: was it was a it was a rough afternoon, not fun.

1841
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 3: Give them credit, you know, they they came out and

1842
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 3: uh and and executed very well and it's played with

1843
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 3: a lot more force pace.

1844
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: Just trying to get back on track coming up Thursday

1845
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 1: with the next for Carlisle and his bunch on the

1846
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: on the floor. Later today for a practice, coach, you

1847
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 1: said something I guess it would have been before the

1848
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,560
Speaker 1: Denver game, uh, that I wanted to get your thoughts on.

1849
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 1: You asked a question about Nikola Jokic and you made

1850
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 1: mentioned that, you know, it's further proof that the most

1851
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,879
Speaker 1: important things in the game of basketball happen on the ground.

1852
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: I believe you also referenced Luca also possesses some of

1853
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 1: that same ability, and I was kind of curious if

1854
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 1: you could expand on that the most important things in

1855
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:22,719
Speaker 1: the game of basketball happen on the ground.

1856
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's it's a it's a it's a

1857
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 3: beautiful game, and footwork has so much to do with

1858
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 3: everything happening in the game of NBA basketball. You're you're

1859
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 3: positioning defensively is absolutely critical if you if you allow

1860
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 3: angles to the opponent that has the ball that you're

1861
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 3: guarding individually, I mean, NBA players devour angles, So there's

1862
01:31:54,720 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 3: there's a great importance in remaining square. And so that's

1863
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 3: you know, certainly one thing on the on the defensive side,

1864
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 3: and then offensively. You know, so much of leverage an

1865
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 3: NBA game comes from your connection to the ground that

1866
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 3: that has a lot to do with how much force

1867
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 3: you can play with when you when you go into

1868
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 3: a situation where you're driving the ball and there's contact,

1869
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 3: if you've already left the ground and somebody goes vertical,

1870
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 3: you're not gonna have You're not gonna have the same

1871
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 3: amount of ability to finish through through legal contact, you know,

1872
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 3: vertical contact, those kinds of things. And then you know,

1873
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 3: it's just it's kind of an odd statement. I understand

1874
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 3: the question. But those two players in particularly do not

1875
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 3: play high flying game games. But their level of their

1876
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 3: level of productivity is you know, at the absolute peak

1877
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 3: of the entire league because of what they were able

1878
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 3: to do, uh, carving out space, seeing things, putting a

1879
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 3: defense in a bind, and being able to make a

1880
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 3: late pass to somebody for a wide open shot or

1881
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 3: a layup, as we see with Jochic so many times.

1882
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 3: And so and you look at you know, you look

1883
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 3: at the history of the game and some of the

1884
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 3: other great players. You know, Magic Johnson was not a

1885
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 3: high flyer. He was fast, and he was a lot

1886
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 3: quicker than than people gave him credit for at his

1887
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 3: at his height, but his size sort of belied the

1888
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 3: fact that he was that quick. Bird was very quick too,

1889
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 3: and faster than people thought. But both both of those

1890
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:04,560
Speaker 3: players had tremendous footwork and their ability to position themselves

1891
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,560
Speaker 3: in a position of strength, you know, to have a

1892
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 3: chance to shoot the ball in the one hand. But

1893
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 3: they also you know, by by by using footwork and

1894
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,719
Speaker 3: using part of their body as a second set of eyes,

1895
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 3: may made them both you know, legal lethal passers as well.

1896
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,560
Speaker 3: And so, I mean, those are those are some examples,

1897
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 3: but it's a it's it's very much a technique and

1898
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 3: in footwork game, and the players that have the best strength,

1899
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 3: the best leverage, and the best vility ability to create

1900
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 3: an advantage for themselves and and their teammates are certainly

1901
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:49,719
Speaker 3: the most valuable.

1902
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 2: Last one to let you go Rick, and again we

1903
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 2: have recall all joining us from the Pacers as the

1904
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 2: head coach of the NBA franchise in our city. Rick,

1905
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 2: we saw Pascal Siaka and his foundation partner with an

1906
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 2: Indianapolis school Indiana Math and Science Academy West is good

1907
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 2: power towards helping kids with literacy and things of that nature.

1908
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 2: So how have you seen Pascal in the few years

1909
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 2: that he's been here now ingratiate himself with the community

1910
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 2: and really give back in that way because we know

1911
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 2: his background and how he has beat consider abount of

1912
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 2: odds to get to where he is today.

1913
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 3: Well, glad you brought this up. His foundation which is

1914
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 3: PS forty three Foundation, So that's p as Pascal SIAKAM

1915
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 3: forty three does amazing work in the community and around

1916
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 3: the world, and I support his foundation every year. I

1917
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 3: believe in in his work and what he's doing. I

1918
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 3: also support the Nemhart Family Foundation. That's Andrew Nemhart's foundation

1919
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 3: along with his family and his dad is a big

1920
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 3: part of that too, and they do a lot of

1921
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 3: stuff in the Toronto area and also in the indian area.

1922
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 3: So you know, look, we have great guys, great people,

1923
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 3: you know, you follow our team on Instagram, you're always

1924
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 3: seeing really interesting things that that they're doing out there. Uh,

1925
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 3: there's a level of kindness, there's a level of spirit,

1926
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,440
Speaker 3: particularly this time of year, you know, as the holidays

1927
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 3: rapidly approach. So we're just very proud to have all

1928
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,640
Speaker 3: these guys you know, on board with us here with

1929
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 3: the pacers. But uh, the Pascal's work with his with

1930
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 3: his PS forty three foundation is awesome, and I would

1931
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 3: encourage anyone out there looking to looking to help out

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Speaker 3: to uh to consider donating. So it's a wonderful it's

1933
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Speaker 3: a wonderful operation. They do great work. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: P S forty three Foundation dot com. Very simple, U

1935
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Speaker 1: r L for the Pascal Siakam Foundation. Pacers back to

1936
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Speaker 1: practice today and they will have the next inside a

1937
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Speaker 1: gamebridge Field House coming up on Thursday. Coach, as always,

1938
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Speaker 1: we appreciate.

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Speaker 3: It all right, thanks guys.

1940
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Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle pay Less Liquors hot Line. I found the

1941
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Speaker 1: Jokic comment he had a week ago about like his

1942
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Speaker 1: ability to play from the ground, and then obviously you

1943
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Speaker 1: think of Luca and Rick mentioned that in that realm.

1944
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Speaker 1: It's just I think it's hard, certainly for me to

1945
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Speaker 1: even try to explain. I'm glad Rick was able to know.

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Speaker 2: One more player in that category do it, in my opinion,

1947
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Speaker 2: is Jayleen Brunson.

1948
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1949
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Speaker 2: I could hear my high school coach playoff two. He

1950
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Speaker 2: plays off two feet right better than a lot of people.

1951
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 2: Not to get too much into the basketball jargon, but.

1952
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Speaker 1: But you hear that a lot playoff too.

1953
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Speaker 2: When he plays off to that means you're a jump

1954
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Speaker 2: stopping in the lane, or you're catching the ball and

1955
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Speaker 2: you're giving yourself the ability to go right or left

1956
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Speaker 2: because you can either you can use either pivot foot.

1957
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Speaker 2: So he is someone when you look at Brunson, he's

1958
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Speaker 2: always one planning off two, which gives you more of

1959
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 2: a stable base, play stronger from there. You can bump,

1960
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 2: you can bounce, you can you know, play a lot

1961
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Speaker 2: more physicality when you're playing off two feet versus one,

1962
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Speaker 2: where you can get knocked off balanced a lot easier.

1963
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Speaker 2: That's the quickest way I can put it, and trust me,

1964
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Speaker 2: he's doing that from a long for a long time. Rather,

1965
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Speaker 2: I believe my dad had a chance to see Jalen

1966
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Speaker 2: Brunson playing high school's from Illinois, and I believe it's

1967
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Speaker 2: still a state record. He scored fifty six in a

1968
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Speaker 2: state tournament game, and the guy is still doing that

1969
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Speaker 2: today in the NBA.

1970
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Speaker 1: You know, I would throw he might be the most

1971
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Speaker 1: athletic of the three that we just mentioned, but I'd

1972
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Speaker 1: throw Sga into that bunch. Yeah, just the ability to

1973
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Speaker 1: again play and control. And you know, if these guys

1974
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 1: you went to an NBA combine testing, Luca's not going

1975
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Speaker 1: to be the blue chip prospect in that world. Jokicch

1976
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 1: I'd argue, probably Shay and certainly Jalen Brunson aren't going

1977
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Speaker 1: to be that either. Hell, it's why Jalen Brunson lasted

1978
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Speaker 1: until pick whatever he did, or Jokic lasted until pick

1979
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Speaker 1: whatever he did as well. So I get Pagers back

1980
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Speaker 1: to practice today. It is the NBA Cup tonight, Spurs

1981
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Speaker 1: and Nicks. Victor Webbin Yama did come off the bench

1982
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: as they upset the Thunder the other night there, so

1983
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Speaker 1: really looking forward to That'll be Amazon Prime tonight at

1984
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Speaker 1: eight thirty. Spurs and Knicks for the NBA Cup, and

1985
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 1: the Pacers I think do benefit a little bit from

1986
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 1: a schedule standpoint, and that they get the Knicks right

1987
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:23,480
Speaker 1: after that coming up in ten he is the defensive

1988
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Speaker 1: coordinator slash athletic director of the Saint Michael Catholic Cardinals.

1989
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Speaker 1: He is Simon cord a Passi. That would be the

1990
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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers I guess sidekicking down there on the same

1991
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Speaker 1: coaching staff. Did he hire Philip Rivers? Do we know this?

1992
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Speaker 1: Is this his boss too?

1993
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Speaker 2: That's a good question. We've got to get into that.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk with Simon upcoming there. I didn't get a

1995
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Speaker 1: great look at it where they at some restaurant the

1996
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Speaker 1: other night, those Saint Michael High school kids when they

1997
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: showed it, Mark, you're probably the better one to ask.

1998
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Speaker 1: James's two focus being the Saint Michael kids where they

1999
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 1: like at some local rest like they're a pizza party.

2000
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Speaker 1: They're having a good old time. They go pizza. I

2001
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 1: noticed how the Colts banner up flying high. I know

2002
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Speaker 1: it's a few kids didn't stand up. Are they do

2003
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 1: they have Seahawks un overs in the game or.

2004
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Speaker 3: What they do?

2005
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Speaker 2: Probably not getting that playing time from old coach there.

2006
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Speaker 1: Man, you imagine how many hills they're going to be running.

2007
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Speaker 1: The fair Hope day gum let's start running. Spring practice

2008
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Speaker 1: is gonna look a little different for those guys.

2009
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Speaker 2: It's start running. Mark, you should uh, you know, patting.

2010
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Speaker 1: That stand up there. So we'll chat with Simon coming

2011
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Speaker 1: up here in about ten minutes. Mark, let's go and

2012
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Speaker 1: Cube checkdown.

2013
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Speaker 6: The morning Checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh

2014
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Speaker 6: seven five the fan.

2015
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Speaker 1: All right, James, let's focus on some Colts news items.

2016
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Speaker 1: Quarterback will get out of the way. Philip Rivers is

2017
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 1: going to be the starter on Monday Night Football that

2018
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 1: is Week sixteen. Ironically, it's against the forty nine Ers,

2019
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: who has Gus Bradley on their coaching staff, used to

2020
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 1: coach Philip Rivers and as Kyle Shanahan a course, their

2021
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 1: head coach, and Shanahan thought about getting Philip Rivers out

2022
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Speaker 1: of retirement a few years ago when they had their

2023
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: injury issues in their playoff runs. So a lot of

2024
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: respect fro Kyle Shanahan when he comes to Philip Rivers.

2025
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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is clear to do what James boyd lift, weights,

2026
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 2: throw and run, but to play football that is to

2027
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,639
Speaker 2: be determined because he would have to be clear to practice,

2028
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Speaker 2: which could happen later this week. But I wouldn't hold

2029
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 2: my breath on.

2030
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Speaker 1: His last practice. I want to say it was like

2031
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Speaker 1: October tenth, eleventh. I mean, it's been quite some time

2032
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Speaker 1: since he was last on a practice field, so again,

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Speaker 1: I would not hold my breath of Anthony Richardson dressing

2034
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Speaker 1: on Monday night, and we'll see exactly what his availability

2035
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Speaker 1: looks like for the final couple games. Let's go over

2036
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Speaker 1: a couple other injury situations. The latest on Bernard Ryman

2037
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Speaker 1: is what.

2038
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Speaker 2: He did not say. He being Shane Stiken, said he

2039
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 2: did not look good from the right elbow standpoint, So

2040
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Speaker 2: I believe the terms he used were like the two

2041
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 2: words he's had were we'll see. So we will literally

2042
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Speaker 2: see come Thursday when they're back on the practice field

2043
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Speaker 2: if he's out there, and hopefully get an update from Shange.

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Speaker 1: Colts did work out some offensive tackles yesterday. They also

2045
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Speaker 1: have Braden Smith, now on under reserve, out for the

2046
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Speaker 1: rest of the regular season. I did think Jalen Travis,

2047
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 1: the rookie, and I thought Luke Tanuda, I thought they

2048
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: both stepped in nicely. Now when Rivers getting the ball

2049
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Speaker 1: out as quickly as he did, that obviously helps, but

2050
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Speaker 1: still I thought those two guys did a nice job there.

2051
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Speaker 1: Considering you're onto your third and fourth offensive tackles there,

2052
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Speaker 1: and then we'll see about the force Buckner and Sauce Gardner.

2053
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Speaker 1: If i'd offer an opinion there, I think a little

2054
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: bit more optimism on Buckner, But you know, if Sauce

2055
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 1: practices on Thursday, you know, maybe he has an opportunity.

2056
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Speaker 1: But obviously those will be key things to watch. DeForest

2057
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Speaker 1: Buckner potentially makes his return against his former team. Speaking

2058
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:49,560
Speaker 1: of hoops, tonight, along with that NBA Cup game, the

2059
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: only Butler, Indiana or Purdue game of the week will

2060
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 1: take place tonight. It is in stores. Butler is at

2061
01:42:56,800 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 1: Yukon fifteen and a half point under. Yukona has already

2062
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 1: had four top twenty five wins this season. Again, Butler

2063
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Speaker 1: was very competitive against Dan Hurley and company last year

2064
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Speaker 1: in both of those games, so this is a house

2065
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Speaker 1: money game. Butler's had a nice start to the year

2066
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Speaker 1: from an NCAA tournament resume standpoint, obviously this would be

2067
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 1: a huge gold star on that aspect to it, but

2068
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: they are a fifteen and a half point underdog. Brayln

2069
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 1: Mullens since he got back from injury, James, He's been

2070
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 1: pretty good for the Huskies, he has.

2071
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Speaker 2: Been pretty good probably his entire life. Well, that kid

2072
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 2: can really play.

2073
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Speaker 1: Let's say all of Hancott County is nodding very good

2074
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Speaker 1: basketball player. Brayln Mullins speaking of very good high school players.

2075
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Speaker 1: How about the Mister Football Award? It went to Miles

2076
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Speaker 1: McLoughlin from Knox.

2077
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Speaker 2: I demand to recount.

2078
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Speaker 1: I am a little bit hard pressed to explain the

2079
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Speaker 1: voting though with this. Kylennripp had a great story in

2080
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 1: The Star going up there to Knox to chat with

2081
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Speaker 1: Miles and his family about winning the award. Only sixty

2082
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 1: four point five percent. We're talking about a dude that

2083
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:09,560
Speaker 1: ran for a national single season record four eight and

2084
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 1: forty six yards. And I hear the small school thing.

2085
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Speaker 1: The runner up is one class above them. It's not

2086
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 1: like the runner up's a six A kid. And so

2087
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 1: can you explain that to me? Who's the runner up?

2088
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Speaker 1: By the way, Jet Goldsberry from four A Herida chills.

2089
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Speaker 2: That's a good argument. Well, I would honestly like to

2090
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 2: let's get the voters on the phone. Let's see what

2091
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 2: argument they can make. Because to me, when I say

2092
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 2: at amand of recount, I think the recount should be

2093
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 2: even in more favor of Miles McLoughlin. So I don't know,

2094
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 2: is part of it the whole like what is he

2095
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,759
Speaker 2: going to be in college? Thing? Because in a vacuum

2096
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:44,720
Speaker 2: you'd say Brendan Sharp, for example. I believe he's a

2097
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 2: junior is a better football player award?

2098
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: I know, then we go off of the two four

2099
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Speaker 1: to seven rankings every year.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, but I think that is not fair.

2101
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Speaker 2: But it also might be true when it comes to

2102
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Speaker 2: people voting for this award. This gets into the MVP

2103
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Speaker 2: de Ay just get every award, of the Heisman Trophy,

2104
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Speaker 2: all of it, but.

2105
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Speaker 1: Like the Heisman Trophy, Mendoza one going away, Like I

2106
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Speaker 1: actually agreed with that, right he won every region.

2107
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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is you can spin it into whatever

2108
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Speaker 2: argument you want to make.

2109
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Speaker 1: Sixty four percent McLoughlin, Jet Goldsberry and off to Purdue,

2110
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Speaker 1: eighteen percent, Jeremy Finch third, Kashmir Hicks fourth, Murray State.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the racers of Murray State didn't get a whole

2113
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,639
Speaker 1: lot of pub there for Miles McLoughlin. Speaking of high

2114
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Speaker 1: school football, the defensive coordinator alongside Philip Rivers. Rivers the

2115
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Speaker 1: head coach in the OC, the ad and the defensive coordinator,

2116
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Speaker 1: Simon Cordo Possi of Saint Michael's Catholic He joins us. Next, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I thought we were going to get a little high

2118
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Speaker 1: school fight song here. You can't get the Saint Michael

2119
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 1: Cardinal fight song. I don't think they run out to

2120
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Speaker 1: this song.

2121
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Speaker 4: Here.

2122
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Speaker 1: Did you sing your high school fight song, James Boyd.

2123
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Speaker 2: No chance. They lost pretty much every game that I

2124
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Speaker 2: ever attended.

2125
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Speaker 5: So our football team got outscored by our soccer team

2126
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Speaker 5: annually when I was in high school. So well, I

2127
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 5: tells you how well the Cremoni Warriors did. I believe

2128
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 5: pretty good success down there at Saint Michael's.

2129
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Speaker 1: And certainly they were all eyes watching that game on

2130
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 1: Sunday for their head coach and their offensive coordinator. And

2131
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Speaker 1: we head to the paylist lickers hotline right now. He

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Speaker 1: is the defensive coordinator of the Saint Michael High School Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: I believe also the co athletic director down there. Simon

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Speaker 1: corter Passi joins us, coach, good morning to you, thank

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Speaker 1: you for the time.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, good morning, guys, thanks thanks for having me.

2137
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Speaker 1: Well you describe the scene, I assume you were in

2138
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Speaker 1: the area where all the kids were watching it. But

2139
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Speaker 1: would you describe the scene Sunday and watching coach Rivers

2140
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Speaker 1: slinging in an NFL game.

2141
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Speaker 9: Yeah, so I actually, I actually I was lucky enough

2142
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Speaker 9: to make the trip up to Seattle, so I got

2143
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Speaker 9: to watch him play in person. But talk to all

2144
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Speaker 9: of our guys when they got back, and you know,

2145
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Speaker 9: obviously saw all the videos and talked to some of

2146
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Speaker 9: our parents, and you know, they were excited, and uh

2147
01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 9: and they had a blast with it.

2148
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, leading up to it, they

2149
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 4: it was just it was kind of it was.

2150
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 3: Surreal to them.

2151
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 9: And then you know, you get to turn on the

2152
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 9: TV with with fifty to sixty of year high school

2153
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 9: football teammates and uh, go watch your watch your high

2154
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:19,759
Speaker 9: school football coach throw it around on the biggest stage

2155
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 9: and uh and they had a blast with it.

2156
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 2: Now, Simon, I had a chance to cover high school

2157
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 2: athletic for a number of years here in Indiana, and

2158
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 2: I remember a high school coach telling me, kids do

2159
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 2: not care about anything that happened yesterday. You could be

2160
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 2: a legend, You could be you know, the best player

2161
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 2: from wherever back in the day. But if you haven't

2162
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:42,600
Speaker 2: done it recently, they still have this teenage doubt of

2163
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 2: like a coach is just talking. So all that in mind,

2164
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 2: do you think they know now perhaps a little bit

2165
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 2: more like oh wait a second, they Philip River got

2166
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 2: pretty good.

2167
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they definitely do.

2168
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2169
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 9: I don't know if any of our guys really, uh

2170
01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 9: doubted him. I think they were, you know, nervous for

2171
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:02,320
Speaker 9: a little bit. But you know, they've seen him throw

2172
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 9: it around at practice and and you know, do some

2173
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:09,519
Speaker 9: QB drills with Gunner, and so they've seen that he

2174
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 9: can he can still throw it around a little bit.

2175
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 2: And then after the game, I had a chance to

2176
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:15,560
Speaker 2: ask him, you know, and I get that's not the

2177
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 2: main focus. He's here to win. And it was so

2178
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 2: honestly refreshing in a way to hear how much it

2179
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 2: hurt him to lose that game. And I'm like, do

2180
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:24,639
Speaker 2: you've been there for all of you know, seven minutes

2181
01:48:24,680 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 2: and you're sitting here like you've been in all year,

2182
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 2: but you can tell how much he cares. But within that,

2183
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 2: I said, do you think there are some values that

2184
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 2: your sons and your children and your players can take

2185
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 2: from this? And he got so emotional talking about the

2186
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 2: ability to go for it and not being afraid to

2187
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 2: chase the dream, to try hard and you might not

2188
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 2: get what you want, there might be feeling on the

2189
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 2: other side of it. So how much do you think

2190
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:51,879
Speaker 2: that message can resonate with the folks back home in Alabama?

2191
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 9: I think a ton And you know, kind of kind

2192
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,680
Speaker 9: of piggybacking off of that question that you asked him.

2193
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 4: You know, Phillip is is uh is.

2194
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 9: The ultimate competitor, you know. And and then he you know,

2195
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 9: it doesn't matter if he had been with the team

2196
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:10,599
Speaker 9: for for a week or or you know, all year.

2197
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 9: You know, it'd hurt him that they.

2198
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 4: Lost that game.

2199
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 9: They had a chance and and our guys know that.

2200
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 9: And and you know, he's been here for five years

2201
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 9: as our head football coach, and so all of our kids.

2202
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 4: Have gotten to know him, you know, very well.

2203
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 9: And and uh and and it's tough, you know, to

2204
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 9: lose a tight game like that, and and you know,

2205
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 9: it's it's very valuable for our guys to see that,

2206
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 9: because that's that's what we you know, it's one of

2207
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 9: the things that he always tells them. And you know,

2208
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 9: in big games that we have, it's like just cut

2209
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 9: it loose, like it doesn't you know, there's nothing to

2210
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 9: nothing to be scared of or you know, we got

2211
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 9: to go do it.

2212
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 1: It's a voice of Simon Corpassi. He is the defensive

2213
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 1: coordinator alongside Philip Rivers down there at Saint Michael's High School.

2214
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 1: He was in Seattle, uh for Philip with the Colts

2215
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:58,959
Speaker 1: and Seahawks of course on Sunday. Simon, your first interaction

2216
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:00,599
Speaker 1: with Philip Rivers was when.

2217
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 9: I met Philip uh it was two I think it

2218
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 9: was two years before he became our our head coach

2219
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:09,760
Speaker 9: down here. I think it was in two thousand. It

2220
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 9: was summer of twenty eighteen. He hosted a hosted a

2221
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 9: summer camp down here, one day summer camp.

2222
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 1: And were you at Saint Michael's at the time, because

2223
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if people fully realized it's

2224
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 1: not like Philip Rivers necessarily, like you know, it was

2225
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 1: destined to be. He was going to be the head

2226
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 1: coach of Saint Michael's, you know, in third grade. This

2227
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,560
Speaker 1: is something that him and his wife have obviously you know,

2228
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,720
Speaker 1: chosen to raise their large family down there.

2229
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was, Yes, I was. I was currently at

2230
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 4: Saint Michael and just last.

2231
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 1: Week, what do you remember about when Philip told you

2232
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 1: this was happening.

2233
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 9: Uh, you know, it's it's it's it's come up a

2234
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 9: couple of times, and so it wasn't it wasn't a

2235
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 9: huge surprise to me when it but it is still

2236
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 9: a little bit of a shock. It's like, oh man,

2237
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:58,439
Speaker 9: all right, let's see how it all. There's still a

2238
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 9: lot of moving parts with it that got you know,

2239
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 9: there's hoops that they got to go through and for

2240
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 9: it to happen. But I was excited for him. I mean,

2241
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 9: you know when when he mentioned it to me, I

2242
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 9: just said, man, I think you got to go for it.

2243
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 9: You know, there's there's you know, there's only so many

2244
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 9: people in this world that get the opportunity, you know,

2245
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 9: to go play on the biggest stage like that. And

2246
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 9: he was, you know, lucky enough to be able to

2247
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 9: do it for you know, seventeen years before this. And

2248
01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 9: I said, man, you.

2249
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 4: Know, if you feel good about it, like go go

2250
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 4: go do it again.

2251
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 9: I mean, you're still good enough to do it, you

2252
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 9: can and and and so I was.

2253
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 4: I was really excited for him, really was.

2254
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,560
Speaker 2: Again we have Simon Corda Passi here on the Payloffslookers

2255
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 2: Hotline and someone who knows Philip Rivers very well and

2256
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 2: has gotten on very well over the last few years

2257
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 2: coaching down in Alabama. So as a defensive coordinator, how

2258
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 2: much do you go back and forth with Philip about

2259
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,680
Speaker 2: just football in general? And what are those conversations like

2260
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 2: you had when you know you're talking to somebody who

2261
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 2: could be in the Hall of Fame someday.

2262
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's there's quite a bit of back and forth.

2263
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 3: You know.

2264
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 9: It's it's it kind of goes in stages. You know,

2265
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 9: when we're in training camp summer, summer to training camp.

2266
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:13,759
Speaker 9: You know, it's it's a lot of you know, ones

2267
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 9: versus ones and us versus us which which is which

2268
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 9: is great for us defensively because we get so many

2269
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:24,799
Speaker 9: different looks and and so many different formations and plays,

2270
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 9: and so it puts a lot of conflict on us defensively,

2271
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,680
Speaker 9: and it gives us a lot of opportunities to you know,

2272
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 9: talk through different things. And and there's times where we'll

2273
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 9: stop and we'll you know, we'll look through and and

2274
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 9: he's calling an offensive play and then it's like Hey, hey,

2275
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:40,680
Speaker 9: let's let's talk about this Simon real quick and we'll

2276
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 9: look at it all and and uh, you know, he's

2277
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 9: he's one of the best football minds in this world.

2278
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 9: And and you know, I tell people all the time, Yeah,

2279
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 9: he's an unbelievable play caller and and sees it great offensively,

2280
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 9: and there's no doubt about it, but he sees it

2281
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 9: just as well on the other side of the ball too,

2282
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 9: And uh, it's it's it's been. You know, I'm very lucky,

2283
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 9: uh to get to spend as much time as I

2284
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 9: have with him and and you know, learn as much

2285
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 9: as I have, uh being around him, and all the

2286
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 9: knowledge he has of the game, and and you know,

2287
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:18,960
Speaker 9: not even not even just the how great of a

2288
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,680
Speaker 9: you know, football mind he is, he's he's an unbelievable

2289
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 9: you know I said it earlier, but he's the ultimate competitor.

2290
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 9: He is an unbelievable leader. And you know, he's one

2291
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:31,560
Speaker 9: of the best people on this earth. I mean, he

2292
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 9: truly is. And and uh, it's it's you know, we're

2293
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 9: we're very lucky at Saint Michael in fair Hope to

2294
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 9: uh to have a guy that that leads our football program.

2295
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 9: On a on a daily basis, like him, he's he's

2296
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 9: he really is truly unbelievable.

2297
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 2: So, Simon, we know that his son, Gunner is one

2298
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:53,759
Speaker 2: of the top quarterback prospects in the twenty twenty seven class.

2299
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 2: For him in particular, how have you seen him react

2300
01:53:57,200 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 2: to this moment seeing his dad go out there and

2301
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 2: knowing that ideally he'd like to follow in those same footsteps.

2302
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think a little bit of it. Uh.

2303
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 4: Sunday was you know, I think for a lot of

2304
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 4: us it was like, is this is this? Like are

2305
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:16,640
Speaker 4: we in reality right now? I mean, this is really happening. Uh.

2306
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 9: And you know, you get to the stadium Sunday and

2307
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 9: it's like, what in the world we just lost our

2308
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:26,559
Speaker 9: semi final football game a week ago and now all

2309
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 9: of a sudden, we're you know, and clabout to go

2310
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 9: to watch the Colts play the Seahawks and and Phillips starting.

2311
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 6: Uh.

2312
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 9: So I think, you know, but as the game goes,

2313
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:39,680
Speaker 9: it's you know, you still feel that way a little bit,

2314
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 9: but it's just like he's back and uh and it

2315
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 9: was exciting to see again.

2316
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 1: That's a voice of Simon Cord of PASSI gracious with

2317
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 1: his time here on this Tuesday morning. He is the

2318
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 1: co athletic director and the defensive coordinator down at Saint

2319
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: Michael Catholic Fair and Fair Hope. Obviously, Philip Rivers the

2320
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 1: head coach and the OC. How many of you went

2321
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 1: out to Seattle? Obviously CBA show his brother and Gunn

2322
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 1: are quite a bit during the game. How many of

2323
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 1: you were out there?

2324
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 4: Yeah? It was it was It was four or five

2325
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 4: of us out there for that one.

2326
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 1: Has there been any thought? And I know Philip hads

2327
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: some ties here to Garren Catholic High School just north

2328
01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 1: of Indianapolis. Can we get a Fair Hope Garan High

2329
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 1: School matchup called the Philip Rivers Bowl.

2330
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 9: Hey, we're we're in a reclass this year, so our schedule,

2331
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 9: our schedule changes and we're looking for a couple of

2332
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 9: non region games. Maybe they want to fly down to

2333
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 9: Pharaope we can set up a big matchup.

2334
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 1: How about that little home and home here? I mean

2335
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 1: we are talking to the a D and Lord knows,

2336
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 1: I've talked non conference schedules before on this show. Simon,

2337
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 1: Thank you man. I know it's been a whirlwind. I

2338
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 1: didn't realize you were traveling back, you know, to to Alabama.

2339
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 1: So greatly appreciate you making time for us here, especially

2340
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 1: with the time change and everything. And good luck. It's

2341
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing story. I enjoyed yesterday actually went online

2342
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 1: and watched a podcast between you and Philip. Some of

2343
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 1: the students there at Saint Michael interviewed you, and it

2344
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 1: was fun to see you guys obviously provide that for

2345
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 1: the student So good luck with everything down on campus

2346
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 1: and enjoy this Christmas break and enjoy watching Philip.

2347
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I appreciate you guys having us and excited for

2348
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 9: Excited for a big Monday night football game up there

2349
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 9: in Indy and go Colts.

2350
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 1: That is the co athletic director of the defensive coordinator

2351
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals of Saint Michael, Simon Cord of Passy

2352
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 1: with us here on the paylisticers Hot and James. We

2353
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about it yesterday in our bubble.

2354
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 1: It's almost two different sides to this story right now.

2355
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 1: The last ten minutes is the movie. Yeah, that's the

2356
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:42,000
Speaker 1: Friday Night on the couch. That's the glass half full.

2357
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 1: That's Michael ore Blindside. You know, that's like a little

2358
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 1: bit of this like Hey, honey, you wouldn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: This dude's coming off the couch after five years. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't cuss, he throws it kind of funky. He's got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a twang. He's got ten kids,

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Speaker 1: he's a grandpa. You want to watch it? And the

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Speaker 1: other side of it is, oh my gosh, this is

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Speaker 1: the National Football League?

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Speaker 2: What the hell are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Right? Like, you know, there is that element of like, wait,

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Speaker 1: the culture trying to make the playoffs. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: two different yeah, you know angles to it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I said it to Mark yesterday, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: one's Disney Plus and the other's Netflix. You know, it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's really real. And so I'm torn a little bit,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, like how much to approach

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Speaker 1: each side of it? So we have done I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of the football NFL side of it. So

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we could spend ten minutes there talking a

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Speaker 1: little bit more about the movie.

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Speaker 2: Do you think as a defensive coordinator he can tell

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Speaker 2: Philip A it's not a good play drew up for

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Speaker 2: the offense. I don't know. I would like to know

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Speaker 2: how much freedom and back and forth conversation he has

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Speaker 2: with a potential future Hall of Famer. But again respect

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Speaker 2: to Philip Rivers, and this is what I will say.

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Speaker 2: I did feel this way about Jeff Saturday as well.

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Speaker 2: The two decisions are totally different in my being because

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Speaker 2: one is just you know, Jim Irsay, liked this dude,

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Speaker 2: I'll just hire him, versus Philip Rivers actually having some

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Speaker 2: football reasons for being hired. But I don't necessarily look

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Speaker 2: at him or Jeff's Saturday and say you shouldn't have

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Speaker 2: taken this job. It's not their fault. They were offered

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Speaker 2: the opportunity. If you do want to criticize why they're

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Speaker 2: out there, then you criticize the folks who gave it

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Speaker 2: to them. But I don't fault Philip Rivers was saying,

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Speaker 2: I want to go back and play. If the opportunity

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Speaker 2: is put on a silver platform, I will do it.

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Speaker 1: One final time here I'm upset at Mark Dyton for

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Speaker 1: something that sounds pretty par for the course. And we'll

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Speaker 1: begin our sports story countdown here. We do it every

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Speaker 1: year in the state of Indiana, counting down from ten

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Speaker 1: to one the best sports stories of the year. We'll

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Speaker 1: do that next here change myum goods.

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Speaker 6: If you were listening to a fan morning show on

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Speaker 6: Sports Radio ninety three five and one oh seven five.

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Speaker 1: The fan well big thanks to Simon Corda Passi that

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Speaker 1: it puts the coordinator down there at Saint Michael. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that would be Philip Rivers, the head coach in the OC.

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Speaker 1: And Simon just joined us. He was in Seattle for

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Speaker 1: the game. Didn't even realize that. So that'll be up

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Speaker 1: on the podcast along with Rick Carlyle. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: our sports story countdown here in just a second. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to the Indie Classic this weekend. James boy, they

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Speaker 1: dropped off some nice gift Bush Beans, big old sponsor,

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Speaker 1: Bush's Best right. Oh yeah, we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: swag for this weekend. Again, Indy Classic coming up that

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Speaker 1: is Butler in Northwestern at four o'clock Perdue and Auburn

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Speaker 1: at six point thirty and this will be on Peacock.

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Speaker 1: So the Crossroads Classic has evolved into this Indie Classic.

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01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:56,680
Speaker 1: Purdue and Butler seemed to be the mainstays in it.

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Speaker 1: Now I really miss, honestly the Crossroads Classic. But Sports

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Speaker 1: Tech HQ here in town has done a great job

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Speaker 1: in helping out with this event and should be a

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Speaker 1: nice time downtown Butler Northwestern and produce. Oh yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I would say you'll hear three, maybe four of those

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Speaker 1: teams in the NCAA tournament here coming up in a

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Speaker 1: few months.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to the Indy sportscrep What with me for something?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do some grace with you. Mark. Did I

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Speaker 1: see that you were chuckling at a Franklin the Turtle book?

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Speaker 1: Oh that was funny. Come on now, I shared it

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. Will you fill our audience? Are you familiar

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Speaker 1: with the Franklin books? I do know the Franklin book

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Speaker 1: mark for anybody out there the has no idea what Franklin.

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Speaker 1: Who Franklin is.

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Speaker 5: So Franklin is a turtle of children's lore, and you

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Speaker 5: know he would just do things. Franklin goes to the park,

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Speaker 5: Franklin goes to the zoo, Franklin eats beans for the

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Speaker 5: first time, stuff like that. And so my I had

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Speaker 5: seen from a friend of mine that had shared it,

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Speaker 5: and I said, you know what, this is pretty damn funny.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna share it myself. And it was a it

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Speaker 5: was an image of Franklin. It was like the whole

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Speaker 5: thing that's going on right now is there's parodies of

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Speaker 5: the Franklin books. So the book covers is something else.

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02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 5: So adults have taken it and ran with it and

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Speaker 5: made some things. The one that made me laugh out

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Speaker 5: loud that I shared said, Franklin gets his hopes up

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Speaker 5: against the Reds again, and it's a it's a Franklin

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Speaker 5: in a Reds hat, jersey and a flag and he's

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Speaker 5: got this look of terror.

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Speaker 1: On his face. I thought it was quite funny. You're sick.

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Speaker 1: I hate Cubs fans. I didn't make it.

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Speaker 5: I just laughed at it, and I thought it everywhere well,

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02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:34,240
Speaker 5: I made me laugh. If things make me laugh or something,

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Speaker 5: I will share it. I want to pass along good

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Speaker 5: vibes to everybody.

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Speaker 1: The next couple of weeks, we will make our countdown

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Speaker 1: here of the top ten sports stories in the state

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Speaker 1: of Indiana. We will begin Mark Dyton with what number

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Speaker 1: number ten is that the Ady Mitchell.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like I think it's gotten a little higher now.

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Speaker 5: We haven't done it lately since he's been off to

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Speaker 5: the Jets.

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Speaker 1: But a nice touchdown catch you had from Brady Cook.

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Speaker 5: I think that's why Jeff's not here. Today he went

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Speaker 5: to New York to go buy authentic eighty.

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Jersey needed two for a son's here for Christmas. Guys.

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Speaker 1: I will start number ten, and again we'll count this

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Speaker 1: down from ten to one. I'm actually dealing with the

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Speaker 1: story we've talked about today, Miles McLoughlin. I think that

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Speaker 1: was a great Indiana sports story this past year, and

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Speaker 1: I've got that ten on the list. Obviously at Gardnered

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Speaker 1: National Fame there you of course had Derrick Henry chiming

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Speaker 1: in on it. He fell three hundred and sixty four

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Speaker 1: yards short of the record with Lewire's beating Knox in

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Speaker 1: the semi state round. But I think that was a

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Speaker 1: super unique sports story for our state and I thought

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Speaker 1: deserving of a spot on the list there. So Miles

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Speaker 1: McLoughlin for me at ten, I.

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Speaker 5: Will co sign because that's my number ten as well,

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02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 5: because I thought that was a great story. It's not

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Speaker 5: often we talk a ton of high school football. We

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02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:50,720
Speaker 5: do talk a lot, but not where we isolate a

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Speaker 5: specific athlete.

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Speaker 1: But he's in such a.

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02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:55,960
Speaker 5: Tear that was must watch and much must follow throughout

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Speaker 5: the the high school football season. So now he's mister

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Speaker 5: Football Bend a little controversial that he wasn't a runaway

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Speaker 5: of sorts, but he is my number ten as well

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Speaker 5: James Boyd.

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Speaker 2: When he got at number ten, I thought I'd be

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Speaker 2: on my own with this when it comes to the

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Speaker 2: high school scene, but I am going with another high

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Speaker 2: school event. This was the Sectional Championship boys basketball at

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Speaker 2: Munsey Central, one of the greatest, most historic venues in

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Speaker 2: the States, and it was Mount Vernon and Luke Ardle

2495
02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 2: taking down Brayln Mullins and Greenfield Central back in March.

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Speaker 2: Great game, double overtime. I believe Brayln Mullins had thirty eight,

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Speaker 2: Luke Erdle had thirty six. One of the greatest high

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Speaker 2: school basketball games I will I've ever seen, or probably

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Speaker 2: will ever see. It was theater. It was everything I

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Speaker 2: love about Indiana sports, and boy, when I say basketball

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Speaker 2: is different here, it is different. Place was packed. I

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02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 2: got there right before tip off, sat at their scores

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02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:53,400
Speaker 2: table next to Kyle Ned and Rep and watched history unfold.

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Speaker 2: It was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I love that little high school flavored To get our

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Speaker 1: lists started there again, we'll count it down from ten

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Speaker 1: to one here over the next couple of weeks. I

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Speaker 1: go a little college e on my next two spots

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Speaker 1: here on the list, as we will continue that throughout

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Speaker 1: the day. James's kind of a unique week for us

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Speaker 1: on the Colts beat. It's almost an off day each

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Speaker 1: of the next two days because of the Monday night game.

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02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:19,080
Speaker 1: So if you're used to the Colts normal schedule, everything

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Speaker 1: is pushed back a day with the Monday night game

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Speaker 1: coming up against the forty nine ers. So nothing today

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Speaker 1: for the Colts. They'll have coordinators meet the media on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: their first practice on Thursday. I guess outside of roster moves,

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Speaker 1: you don't expect anything too newsy from the Colts on

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Speaker 1: a day like today, do you nah?

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Speaker 2: Just making sure you get all the absence of the Bengay,

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Speaker 2: the icy hot ready for number seventeen, the new number

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Speaker 2: seventeen at Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again to Rick Carlisle and Simon cord Passi

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Speaker 1: if you missed that earlier, the defensive coordinator and the

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Speaker 1: co athletic director down there at Saint Michael High in

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Speaker 1: Fair Hope. He seemed open to my home and home

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Speaker 1: idea of Garon flying.

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Speaker 2: So do we have some legal things we have to

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02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:01,840
Speaker 2: get clear with the I to say.

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Speaker 1: Oh, no, you know know Garon Saint Michael football game

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Speaker 1: coming up. Mark Dacton, thank you, thank you for bearing

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Speaker 1: with us. Everybody will