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Speaker 1: in college football everything getting underway this weekend. Last night,

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Speaker 1: That's right, That's exactly what he did. But the big

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Speaker 1: When it comes to Indianapolis, because not only Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: He is a return guest of the program. He is

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Speaker 1: Mac Angele. Hello, Mac Jake.

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Speaker 2: It's good to hear your voice, sir. How are things

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Speaker 2: in my hometown, Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: You know, here's the excitement that I've had in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very nice of you, Jake. When you get

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Speaker 2: The problem is like she didn't say what she remembered

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Speaker 1: She remembered that we were the only two people in

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Speaker 1: But now the keys to the kingdom are his. Will

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Speaker 2: I mean, he still hasn't played major college football much

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Speaker 1: So you think he has more mobility because you know,

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Speaker 2: No, they've designed plays for him to run. And I

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Speaker 2: And so they will design they already have. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And we'll never know, Mac, do you believe? And I'm

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Speaker 1: There is so much talk in Indianapolis as to and

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Speaker 2: You know, I think it just depends on what they

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Speaker 2: Everything I had ever heard, and I talked to friends

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Speaker 2: But the part to me that that's really impressed me

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Speaker 1: He was red shirted, so in the classroom he is

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Speaker 2: I think he's a senior the way these are going now,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he's on pace to graduate in May.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the obviously, but this is.

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Speaker 1: His fourth year. Is a college student, correct? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he came on campus early. He left high school

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Speaker 2: They were never gonna he was never going to start

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Speaker 2: ahead of quinn Ewers. There was none of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: We all thought people like.

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Speaker 1: That, and they knew it, right, They knew it, pardon,

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Speaker 2: It totally and they were okay with it, and they

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Speaker 2: For everybody involved. It worked out. UT was really good

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Speaker 2: even just you talking about it with you right now, Jake,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is like football royalty, for sure. I

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Speaker 2: Help them probably all the above. You know, when you

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Speaker 2: If you would have told me on January twenty sixth

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing that makes it peculiar, Mac

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Speaker 2: Green Bays better than Dallas. It's the youngest team in

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Speaker 1: Mac you grew up in this town. You're now a

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Speaker 1: I want to know this as somebody who grew up

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Speaker 2: It's funny you should say that. I thought about that

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Speaker 2: it was awful. My heart went out to him. Whatever

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Speaker 2: That's the hell of an argument, and I can't. And

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Speaker 2: you know what, if you consider the news organization that

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Bob, Jim mersay, so I can understand,

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Speaker 2: maybe the Simons are in that conversation. My heart you know,

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Speaker 2: terms of Jim, yeah, you know, Jake, you could. It

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling mac In conclusion, I don't know this.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing to base this on, but I'll bet

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Speaker 2: That we were thinking like this is like a Michael

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I listen, I'm going all this is allegedly

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Speaker 2: But Jake, that's a valid concern and complaint at the

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Speaker 2: and we both know that people in that position of power,

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Speaker 1: But are there people who made money off of Jim

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's a sad reality of it.

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Speaker 2: Jim Mersay, thanks to Bob, had a lot of gold.

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Speaker 1: I will let Mac the waitress know next time you're

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, Jake. Hey, you know, thanks

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Speaker 2: last time you had me on here talking about Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't have been any more wrong, because I'm sure

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Speaker 2: I came on and said, oh, they'll get a deal done,

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Speaker 2: five minutes for kickoff and I'll play and it'll be fine,

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Speaker 2: We're used to that.

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Speaker 1: And when you wrote up a column in Max Movies,

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Speaker 1: you also said The Predator was a great movie. So

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Speaker 1: you're over too, now, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I'm not wrong about that one classic?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 1: See you?

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Speaker 2: Mac all right talking to Jake Sailor mac.

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Speaker 1: Ingell be in his writing writing career writing columns called

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Speaker 1: Max Movies for the Eastwood Newspaper in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 1: It was that or talk about the Colts, and at

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Speaker 1: that time they had, like I said, we didn't know

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Speaker 1: talk about a number of different things, as we do

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Speaker 1: often on Fridays, in particular during the football season. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: I'll begin with this. If you look at the fifty

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Speaker 1: we certainly hope never is the case, but sparing injury

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Speaker 1: when you look over this particular roster, how many players

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Speaker 1: you say, they might have kind of book ended it

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense what I'm saying, Yeah, it definitely does.

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Speaker 4: I would say not as many as maybe I would

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Speaker 4: have thought it. You know, naturally, I think you're always

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Speaker 4: certainly looking to work out some veteran defensive players at

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Speaker 4: one thing to point out about waiver claims again, you

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Speaker 4: the next twenty four hours you can put in claims

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Speaker 4: Brinz be claimed by Miami. We saw Jelanie Woods declaimed

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Speaker 4: by the Jets. We saw Samuel Walmack be claimed by

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Speaker 4: the Titans. The only waiver claim the Colts put in

435
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Speaker 4: all thirty one teams all their cuts was for Chad Mumba,

436
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Speaker 4: the linebacker who they ended up getting, But that was it.

437
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Speaker 4: So you know, some years, you know, Ballards first year,

438
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Speaker 4: for example, the Colts claimed five guys and clearly they

439
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Speaker 4: didn't feel the need to be that active yet. So again, naturally,

440
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Speaker 4: I think you know you're gonna have one to two

441
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Speaker 4: maybe veterans that you find ala Xavien Howard and that type.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you'll do that over the next handful of days,

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Speaker 4: but I think for the most part, this will be

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Speaker 4: a you know, a large chunk of the roster that you.

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Speaker 5: See a week from Friday.

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Speaker 1: The situation at quarterback is the obvious that jumps out right,

447
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Speaker 1: But when you look at their receiving corps and I

448
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Speaker 1: do like their receivers and in particular tight end at

449
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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren, and then you know Jelani Woods not making

450
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Speaker 1: the roster. Do you think that in any way, shape

451
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Speaker 1: or form, the the receiving room or the offensive skill

452
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Speaker 1: set players that the final decisions of guys may have

453
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Speaker 1: been made based on who was under quarterback or is

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Speaker 1: that completely irrelevant between Jones, richards and Leonard whoever it

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Speaker 1: may be towards what players make those final spots.

456
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's pretty irrelevant to make the team. Now,

457
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Speaker 4: maybe on game day you get a little bit more

458
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Speaker 4: selective and you know, game plan specific stuff, and you know,

459
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Speaker 4: Alex Pearce is probably the one that comes to mind

460
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Speaker 4: the most that I am curious about how much he

461
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Speaker 4: has impacted negatively from Jones and not Richardson. We've seen him,

462
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Speaker 4: you know, cat Steve Baal from Jones in practice, but

463
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Speaker 4: that's never really been his m O. Daniel Jones. That

464
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Speaker 4: is in game settings, So you know, clearly that's been

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Speaker 4: something that Richardson has done a whole lot of Flacco

466
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Speaker 4: with his big arm, did a lot with that too

467
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Speaker 4: when he was playing last year. So Pierce would be

468
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Speaker 4: the one once you transitioned to game day. But outside

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Speaker 4: of that, I think no, I think it was pretty

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Speaker 4: straightforward with how they handle cuts.

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Speaker 1: How did you think Shane stike Ha handled this camp

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Speaker 1: and offseason versus years past, same different, you know, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would say definitely different. And I've

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Speaker 4: got some speaking specifically to training camp. You know, the

475
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Speaker 4: mandate's like a ramp up period. I think it's like

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Speaker 4: a three or four first practices where you don't put

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Speaker 4: on full pads yet, and then once they got to

478
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Speaker 4: that end of that period, they might have worn full

479
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Speaker 4: pads in every practice the rest of camp. And I think,

480
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Speaker 4: if you'll notice it, camp was a little bit more

481
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Speaker 4: spread out. Not a ton of practice, to be clear,

482
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Speaker 4: but you know, maybe they'd only go two straight days

483
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Speaker 4: and then they take a day off or you know,

484
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Speaker 4: one day and a day off, but when they did go,

485
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Speaker 4: they were always in full pads, seemingly. I mean, I

486
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Speaker 4: don't know, maybe I'm missing the day, which I think

487
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Speaker 4: that is a little bit of a change, you know,

488
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Speaker 4: preseason playing time. I'm sure the quarterback competition dictated this,

489
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Speaker 4: but you know, he played obviously Jones, I guess, you know,

490
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Speaker 4: three quarters. If he added all up, I mean, that's

491
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Speaker 4: not a ton, frankly, but I tend to think that

492
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Speaker 4: might even be a little bit more than he's played

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Speaker 4: the starter recently, even the defensive guy who went out

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Speaker 4: there for a quarter, Now that I speak on it

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Speaker 4: out loud, I don't know if he did a whole

496
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Speaker 4: lot differently preseason playing time. But again I thought camp

497
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Speaker 4: was definitely different in just the amount of full pad

498
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Speaker 4: of days.

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Speaker 1: You know, Kevin, Kevin Bowen is our guest. You hear

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Speaker 1: him on the Morning show obviously the Fan Morning Show

501
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Speaker 1: with Jeff Record and James Boyd. When when you look

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Speaker 1: over the Colts and in this particular roster, one of

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Speaker 1: the things that that's interesting to me. I've made this

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Speaker 1: point to you before. When you play little league baseball, okay,

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Speaker 1: if you try out for little league baseball, did you

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Speaker 1: play the little league baseball? Kevin, Yes, sir, you played

507
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Speaker 1: where Carmel Bads Club, Okay, and you were I know

508
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Speaker 1: you're obviously an elite level state champion golfer. On a

509
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Speaker 1: one to ten scale, What was your baseball skill set?

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Speaker 4: Oh about six? And that that might be genera so much.

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Speaker 1: So in baseball at the little league level, oftentimes you

512
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Speaker 1: put kind of your weakest player, like in left field.

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Speaker 1: Apologies to people whose kids are playing left field, but

514
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Speaker 1: every you know, but.

515
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Speaker 2: That's the kid to second base.

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Speaker 4: There goes a little Johnny out there.

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Speaker 1: So the kid that's still learning the position usually gets

518
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Speaker 1: kind of put out in left field. It feels to me,

519
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Speaker 1: like linebacker in this defense for the Colts has become

520
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Speaker 1: their left field. Now that's no disrespect desire Franklin and

521
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Speaker 1: the players they have, but it just seemed like in

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Speaker 1: this defense in today's NFL, and I know it's a

523
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Speaker 1: cyclical league, but as the linebacker spot becoming the one

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Speaker 1: not that you put your weakest player, I don't mean

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Speaker 1: it that way, but the one where you can just

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Speaker 1: kind of mask guys versus other positions within this defense.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Eddie Hamilton. I'll never forget him beating

528
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Speaker 4: me in the butt in sixth grade and I cried

529
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Speaker 4: so hard. I really, honestly, the seams might still be

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Speaker 4: on the right cheek of mine as I as I

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Speaker 4: turned to take that one right off the butt. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's probably my grandest littleague memory. Yeah, I think I

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Speaker 4: think it's a good analogy.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And I also think that you probably could say that

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Speaker 4: league wide. You know, honestly, just a day and age

537
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Speaker 4: of Hey, here's our four to three and we've got

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Speaker 4: these three thumping linebackers and you know they're gonna stop

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Speaker 4: the run. That that's just largely gone, I would say

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Speaker 4: across the league. Now, some teams are a little bit

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Speaker 4: more willing to maybe play three linebackers than the Colts.

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Speaker 4: I think under lu Ana Roumo, it's not going to

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Speaker 4: be a you know, heavily invested position group, and the

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Speaker 4: Colts probably have the least I would argue they probably

545
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Speaker 4: have the least inexperienced linebacker group, you know, the most

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Speaker 4: inexperience I should say linebacker group in the entire league.

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Speaker 4: And then Ziara Franklin the one he's yet to take

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Speaker 4: an eleven on eleven rep in a game with and

549
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Speaker 4: Remo's defense. You know, he missed so much of all

550
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Speaker 4: the spring and then or all the team periods that

551
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Speaker 4: should stay in the spring, and then a lot of

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Speaker 4: camp as well. So yeah, that is a definitely unknown.

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Speaker 4: It's probably the biggest question mark on the roster. But

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Speaker 4: the good news is to your point, it's it's an

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Speaker 4: area that's like, you know, you can probably get away

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Speaker 4: with it to a degree. Now. You know, we'll run

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Speaker 4: heavy teams. You know, Denver kind of comes to mind

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Speaker 4: there and Week two. You know, when you face those

559
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Speaker 4: types of teams, you know, how much do they try

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Speaker 4: to expose up.

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Speaker 1: The Kevin the linebacker. The reason I mentioned it about

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Speaker 1: the linebacker spot. I'm curious. I mean, when you look

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Speaker 1: at the league in general, it just feels this way,

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Speaker 1: like in the last couple of years that I've noticed this.

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Speaker 1: But is this more about just this particular defense for

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Speaker 1: the Colts this year or is this kind of a

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Speaker 1: league wide trend and the fact that you'd rather have,

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Speaker 1: you know, your guys on the end and your edge

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Speaker 1: and those things, and then an additional because of the

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Speaker 1: way passing rules are, an additional defensive back. Is this

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Speaker 1: a Colts thing or a league thing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think the Colts are a little

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Speaker 4: bit more on the full in on it, but I

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Speaker 4: would say for the most part, you know, the rest

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Speaker 4: of the NFL is like that. I mean, just look

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Speaker 4: at recent drafts. I can't called many linebackers going in

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Speaker 4: Round one of drafts, you know, even kind of big

578
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Speaker 4: money investments as well. And I think naturally you have

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Speaker 4: to have some positions like that. I mean, you you've

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Speaker 4: probably heard this from me a lot. For me, there's

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Speaker 4: kind of five premium positions in the NFL quarterback, wide out,

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Speaker 4: blindside tackle, defensive end, and corner. You can rank those

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Speaker 4: however you want, and and honestly, that's probably been the

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Speaker 4: biggest nemesis of the Ballared era. Obviously quarterback would be

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Speaker 4: the poster child of it, but not finding enough substance

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Speaker 4: at those five So he sounds plenty of linebackers. There's

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Speaker 4: notibating that he's a Hall of Fame drafter at linebacker

588
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Speaker 4: no matter of the day. Now out of the round,

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Speaker 4: Yet you know the other ones that have probably been

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Speaker 4: more of the.

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Speaker 1: Buggaboo Kevin, what else I guess before we move on

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Speaker 1: to another subject matter here with and I know you

593
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Speaker 1: talked about it plenty in the morning, but for our audience,

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Speaker 1: what if anything did jump out at you about the

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Speaker 1: roster itself? Maybe an area where you were surprised how

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Speaker 1: deep they were, or an area where you were surprised

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Speaker 1: how shallow they were, or even gosh, it looks like

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Speaker 1: they're really emphasizing this particular style and I didn't anticipate it.

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Speaker 4: Definitely cornerback. I again, in the nine years of Ballard,

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Speaker 4: I don't think a position group has received that much

601
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Speaker 4: investment in a single offseason. And really it's you know,

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Speaker 4: a couple of guys didn't even play football last year,

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Speaker 4: which you know is kind of wild, But when you

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Speaker 4: think about it. They went out, they paid Gavarius Award,

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Speaker 4: I think the most lucrative free agent contract of any

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Speaker 4: cold ever. They drafted Justin Wallly in round three. Now

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Speaker 4: unfortunately he tours ACL. They then go out and they

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Speaker 4: signed Xavi and Howard, former All Pro now didn't play

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Speaker 4: football last year, and he's thirty two years old now,

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Speaker 4: so there's a little bit of a question mark. Can

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Speaker 4: you find Steffan Gilmore two point zero? They trade a

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Speaker 4: six round pick for Mackay Blackman, a former third rounder

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Speaker 4: who also and play football last year. It's a torn ACL.

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Speaker 4: So you know, when you add up all of that,

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Speaker 4: you know, they cut Juju Brent. They still brought back

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Speaker 4: their big snap guys from last year, Kenny Moore Jalen Jones.

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Speaker 4: So it's just a it's quite a one eighty. And

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Speaker 4: you know what, a major credit to Chris Ballard for

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Speaker 4: attempting to solve a twenty twenty four issue. Cornerback depth

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Speaker 4: was greatly tested early in the season and largely failed.

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Speaker 4: And he looked at it, and I'm sure lou An

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Speaker 4: Romo's influence helped out, but he looked at it and

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Speaker 4: decided to do something about it, and we'll see obviously

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Speaker 4: if it works out. But at the very least, I

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Speaker 4: think there's been too many times where you've been wanting

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Speaker 4: him to get the bat off his shoulders, to go

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Speaker 4: back to our little analogy, I guess, and he hasn't

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Speaker 4: even done that. It's been you know, the old backwards K,

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Speaker 4: and it's like, well, you know, I'd like to at

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Speaker 4: least see the frontwards K, like at least go down swinging.

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Speaker 4: And this is definitely an attempt at going down swinging, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you one area where I think you and

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Speaker 1: I would have been doing point counterpoint if I was

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Speaker 1: still doing the morning show with you, because I think

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Speaker 1: we disagree on this, so I wanted you to explain,

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Speaker 1: you know, why you're wrong. I thought that Chris Ballard

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Speaker 1: in his press conference, and I admittedly I wasn't in

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Speaker 1: the room. I mean we were on the air, and

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Speaker 1: I was watching it and listening to it, and I

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Speaker 1: know that Chris Ballard, and I said when I was

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Speaker 1: talking about it, I completely understand and respect that it

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Speaker 1: would get old having everybody tell you like how to

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Speaker 1: do your job. I mean, we get enough of that

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Speaker 1: as it is. I totally get it. I respect where

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Speaker 1: he's coming from. But even with that, with that the

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Speaker 1: baseline of that being the norm, just in that position

647
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Speaker 1: or in general, I thought he was more defensive and

648
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: quicker to jump in and try to redirect questions than

649
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: he has been in the past. And I thought it

650
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: came off almost like he was over compensatory in trying

651
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: to explain that he did not feel pressure in his job.

652
00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: But I think you disagree with that. Tell me why, well,

653
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: let me start here.

654
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: I guess I could be numb to it, to be

655
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 4: honest with you, just sitting in You know, this is

656
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: what probably the sixth time he's spoken to the media

657
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 4: since the end of last season, so you know, in

658
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 4: some way, shape or form, he's I've heard him have

659
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 4: to answer like that pressure question for example late where

660
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: he answers about the real job. You know, he he

661
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: at the start of training camp was asked a very

662
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 4: similar question. He deflected that and saying, no, you know,

663
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: pressure's paycheck to paycheck. Pressure is and you know that's

664
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: where you want to kind of grab them Ike and

665
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 4: be like, dude, we get it. We're in an NFL

666
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: bubble here, We're not in a every human being on

667
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: the planet is you know whatever, eating from the same place.

668
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: So I largely think if you watched Chris Bauer press

669
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: conferences in the last two to three years especially, you

670
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: will see defensive you will see feightiness, You'll see all

671
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: of that. I I mean you obviously watched him listen

672
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: to it, which is different than reading the quotes. You know,

673
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: he interjects at one points like did you listen to me?

674
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: I think you said that, Stephen Holder, like I didn't.

675
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he says something along those lines

676
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: every single time he's in front of a mic, And

677
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: I thought Joel A. Rickson pointed this out, Well, right

678
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: before the press conference is going to start, he goes,

679
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: you know, this is going to be very feisty ballard

680
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 4: because and really annually, I'd say, this press conference is

681
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 4: always that when you think about it, he talks really

682
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: five or six times every year, end of the season,

683
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 4: combine you know, owners meetings, draft. I'm trying to think

684
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 4: when else, probably the start of training camp and then

685
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: this one, you know, ten days before the start of

686
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: the season. Well you know, now it's bleeper, get.

687
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: Off the pot.

688
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: Now it's oh boy, you know it's it's easy to

689
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: build it all, you know, and talk about it during

690
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: optimism season, the draft, free agency training camp, but now

691
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: it's we are here, and so maybe there's a little

692
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 4: bit of that in his tone.

693
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I so, I guess that was my point. I

694
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: just thought he typically has that, and I kind of

695
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: understand it, you know, it would get old, the same

696
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: questions over over. But then at the same time, I

697
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: guess the part of me, Kevin, and you tell me

698
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, is if you're tired of answering the

699
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: same question over and over, then like do something about

700
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: making sure that doesn't get asked again, right, sure?

701
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 4: And I think, honestly, just so many of the words

702
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 4: just are end with hallowness, if that's even a word.

703
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: I guess of course in that, you know, you look

704
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 4: at the res men and I go back to when

705
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: we had him on at the combine, you know, and

706
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 4: there were two questions that I asked him that I

707
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: felt we're kind of met with some very specific kind

708
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: of like damn, like that's the answer for that question.

709
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: But then I'm like, well, I guess he's not wrong.

710
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: And the two questions were why are you getting in

711
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 4: the ninth year? And he basically said in that answer

712
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 4: that Jim orsaying to him at the end of the

713
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two season. They agreed to this patient master plan.

714
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: We're going to hire a first year head coach. We're

715
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 4: going to draft a young quarterback. They obviously drafted the

716
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: youngest and the rows quarterback you can imagine, and that

717
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 4: means the least is going to grow. And that was

718
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: the answer on why he's getting a ninetyeer, not because

719
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: he's built a playoff team here or there, or he's

720
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: won the AFC South here or there, or he had

721
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: this great stretch four years ago and they think they're

722
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 4: going to resurrect that. Like, none of that was in

723
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 4: the answer. The other question was, you know, what is

724
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 4: your greatest accomplishment through eight years? And he points to,

725
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, something that happened in twenty eighteen, get into

726
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: the postseason beating Houston points to twenty twenty, you know,

727
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: getting into the playoffs. Well, in the NFL world, you know,

728
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: five and seven years ago, years light years exactly, So

729
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know. Maybe back in February, that's

730
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 4: when I really kind of walked away from him. I

731
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: was like, damn, those answers, I don't I guess he's

732
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 4: not wrong, but they're just met with just again such

733
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: hellow on this And that's the same thing I felt

734
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: like going into that press room the other day, where

735
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 4: it was just like I wasn't expecting much, and I thought,

736
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 4: simply his best answer was one of his most succinct answers,

737
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: was you know, he got asked several times about, hey,

738
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 4: you know, why should fans believe in you? And he

739
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 4: simply said, they'll believe when you win, and if you don't,

740
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 4: they won't. And honestly, that's probably a great way, a

741
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: sad way, but a great way to summarize where he's

742
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: at right now.

743
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: You know a fascinating thing that Eddie and I came

744
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: up with, Kevin. I looked at the schedule this year

745
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 1: and I believe, Eddie, you jump in here if I'm wrong,

746
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: I believe this is correct. Do you know, Kevin Bowen,

747
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: what Arizona Kansas City.

748
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: Think.

749
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: That's the only two They are the only two opponents

750
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: this year against the Indianapolis Colts that have what in

751
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: common in regards to the Knight that Andrew luck retired.

752
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: Their quarterback was found before that night.

753
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: Correct, So the point being Chris was going.

754
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: To say there's a bird on their helmet. I thought

755
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 4: you were going to do one of your helmet games here.

756
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: No, but you are correct. Those are the only two

757
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: franchises that had that are quarterbacked right now by a

758
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: guy that was on the roster when Adelect retired. So

759
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: to me, that points out the whole Well, you got

760
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: to keep in mind, give me a pass begun. And

761
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's asked for that, but he

762
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: kind of infers it from time to time, and I'm like, yeah, man,

763
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: that was like football eons ago, right, you know what

764
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody else has had to take care of

765
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: that since then.

766
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 4: You know, that might have been a twenty twenty one

767
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 4: talking point. I think he's finally realized that that's just

768
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 4: no longer, you know, a fair statement. And again, hindsight

769
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: is twenty twenty. But Ja, you and I probably have

770
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: this conversation, but you know, it really comes down that

771
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: first draft after Locks, when they sat there at the

772
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 4: thirteenth overall pick and Jalen Hurst goes fifty something overall

773
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: and Jordan Loves goes twenty whatever, twenty five overall. That

774
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 4: was your time. That was your time to sit there

775
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 4: and say, all right, to win in this league, you

776
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: have to find the quarterback that gives you that five

777
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: to seven year window. And they elected to go, you know,

778
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 4: and try to band ad it up and pass on that.

779
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 4: They obviously traded it for Buckner that pick, which you know,

780
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: he's turned out to be a fine player. But if

781
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 4: that pick turns out to be Jordan Lover or Jalen Hurts,

782
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 4: I don't think we're talking about zero playoff wins since

783
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 4: that draft.

784
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: What year was it that Luck retired? What was the

785
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: actual date?

786
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 4: August nineteen, August twenty nineteen.

787
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so even hindsight was twenty twenty, and also twenty

788
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: twenty was after Intereluck retired. Okay, here's the last thing.

789
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me this. Okay, Eddie, you got a question

790
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: real quick, and then I got a listener question for Kevin.

791
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 6: Kevin, we talked about this on Colts Corner earlier this week.

792
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 6: If you removed just like the outside stuff with Shane

793
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 6: Stake and the press conferences all that stuff, has he

794
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 6: been a good coach when it comes to ex's and

795
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 6: I was on the field.

796
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 4: Through two years, I think offensive mind wise, Yeah, but

797
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: there's a whole lot more that goes into being the

798
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: head coach, and I think evaluating the total operation, making

799
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 4: sure your message is heard inside that locker room and

800
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 4: followed inside that locker room. I think he is lacked

801
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 4: in those areas. I think he admitted as much after

802
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: last season. The whole you know, the standard and et cetera,

803
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: et cetera. So I think again, of a are you

804
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 4: maximizing your offense as much as you can outside the quarterback?

805
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 4: Clearly yes, but you know, the whole leader of the operation.

806
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 4: I don't think that has been lacking. I mean he's

807
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 4: a pot letter head coach for two years. Given the

808
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 4: quarterback play, I don't think that's egregious by any means,

809
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 4: but I think he could grow in some of the

810
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 4: other non offensive related areas.

811
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 6: And then, as a follow up, if you're to say

812
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 6: that the Colts were to make the playoffs, would he

813
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 6: be a reason why you would be confident in making

814
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 6: that statement?

815
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, easily.

816
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: I think for the Colts to make the playoffs, all

817
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 4: the others on offense have to be very good. And

818
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 4: by others I mean non Daniel Jones. So Jonathan Taylor's

819
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 4: got to be in his prime he's got to stay healthy.

820
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: Your O line has got to have no drop off

821
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: from losing two starters and a pass catching group, as

822
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: Jake pointed out earlier, which is probably the best in

823
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 4: the ballad era. That's got to be, you know, better

824
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 4: than it has been so uh and of course second

825
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: at the play collar falls into that boat.

826
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: Uh Hey, Jake, can you please ask Kevin if we

827
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: can get a beers with Bowen before the start of

828
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: the cold season.

829
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 4: Oh wow, gosh, that sounds awesome. Yeah, I mean yeah,

830
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: I honestly, we should just meet up at a nice local. Yeah,

831
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: I'm looking right now. We could walk over to Fat Dams.

832
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 4: We're gonna walk over the Bulldog. We could, you know,

833
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 4: head over to Butler, go to Chatham.

834
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: We could go through hold Dog's got pbr on tap.

835
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 4: Hogies and Hops?

836
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah we got and Hops is awesome. Hogies and Hops

837
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: is awesome. Nothing wrong with that.

838
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we got a lot of place, you know,

839
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 4: a little chilly water action over to Hogies and Hops.

840
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 4: So I love that idea. Now, Jake, we are approaching,

841
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 4: I believe the anniversary of your fiftieth birthday party. If

842
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 4: I must throw that in there, that is correct. I

843
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 4: distinctly remember watching that at the Big Lug and Notre

844
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: Dame in Ohio State, and you are very allowing and

845
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 4: accepting of me to maybe slide over to the other

846
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 4: room to catch that on the CV. Your Tigers now

847
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 4: are in that game. Are we liking Clemson? I'm seeing

848
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: them as a popular national title pick.

849
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: Here here's the thing. This is where Kevin. I think

850
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Clemson has a huge advantage when it comes to the

851
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: National championship, and that is they open with LSU. I

852
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: would like to think they're going to beat LSU because

853
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: it's in Clemson. But even if they lose a close

854
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: game there, I think the ACC schedule is such and

855
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: as favorable as such that they can do what Notre

856
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Dame did a year ago and drop an early game

857
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: and then put together a win streak that it's impossible

858
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: to keep them out. And you just want a chance.

859
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: You just want to see to the table, right, and

860
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: then you get into the playoffs and you see where

861
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: things fall. They have a very good quarterback, and they've

862
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: got a very good defensive roster, and Tom Allen is

863
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: now their defensive coordinator. So at the very least we

864
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: know that they will be excellent snapping and singing, right,

865
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: you knew what to Do'll be relentless. I don't know

866
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: your thoughts, Kevin. Notre Dame as well, starting out with

867
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: Miami and then Clemson. Your thoughts. I thought that was a.

868
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 4: Flight dig you snuck in there at Notre Dame. That

869
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 4: was not lost on me. Yes, I I obviously to

870
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 4: market the two market games, not name Ohio State Texas.

871
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 4: I'm a little nervous about, you know, first time starting

872
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 4: quarterback Lloyd Carr's grandson, by the way, I'd never thrown

873
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 4: a pass and now he's gonna walk into that environment.

874
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: But I believe in pretty much everybody else, honestly, So

875
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 4: I gotta split the first two Miami texts A and M.

876
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: Get a split, and then hopefully you'll be on your

877
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: way to a playoffof It.

878
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: Was actually not a knock on Notre Dame. It happened

879
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: to Ohio State too. Didn't Ohio State have a loss

880
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: and then they you know, you knew that they were

881
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: one of the twelve and so they got in anyway.

882
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that was unfair. Maybe if you're gonna

883
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 4: lose ud just staying for Notre Dame. So anytime you

884
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 4: talk about them, I'm always thinking to myself. I know, Jake, I.

885
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: Told you, Kevin, I told you the reason the most

886
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: unlikable thing about Marcus Freeman is I hate how likable

887
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, I know, I really want to dislike him,

888
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, he's It's a cool dude. And

889
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: they were fun to watch last year, and the game

890
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: against IU was special, and then watching him after that

891
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: was cool. I liked everything about it. But all right,

892
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: your last weekend before the NFL gets underway, Kevin, enjoy it,

893
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always, Good luck you Tigers.

894
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 4: Let's see you and Addie have a great weekend.

895
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: Thank you, Kevin Bowen joining us on the program. Yes,

896
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, I was thinking, since we're talking high school

897
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: football and thinking about that with you, that maybe I

898
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: was just clueless in that. Speaking of clueless, that segues

899
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: perfectly to our next guest.

900
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 5: Speaking of lost and clueless. So we bring on Kyle

901
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 5: Edri from Thank You.

902
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Edrip does in fact join us from The Indianapolis Star,

903
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he's thrilled that that's his new intro

904
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: each and every time he's on. Is that right, Kyle?

905
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 5: I thought you were gonna I thought you're gonna make

906
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 5: me say it again. I couldn't remember that. What's my line?

907
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 5: I forgot my line?

908
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 6: We should have done that. Now we have two different versions.

909
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: We need you to say this again. Speaking of lost

910
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: and clueless, let's bring on kylenndrif and they didn't have

911
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: to start go ahead.

912
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 5: All right, Yeah, that's that's that's a good entry. I

913
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 5: like that. Okay, let's keep that fair enough.

914
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: Okay, let's begin with this from a week ago. You know,

915
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: there were a lot of games that we were anticipating,

916
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: a lot of big time matchups. It is way too

917
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: early in the season to say, you know, separation Friday nights,

918
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: But were there teams that jumped out you, Kyle, and

919
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: you looked at it and said, you know what, I

920
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: was intrigued. I wasn't sold, but now maybe I might be.

921
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: These guys are somebody to watch. Well.

922
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 5: I mean, you could start with North Central probably from

923
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 5: you know, just from a standpoint of like man getting

924
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 5: that first win and in thirty two game or breaking

925
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 5: that thirty two games streak. You know, and I know

926
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 5: that the games will get tougher starting tonight, but you know,

927
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 5: to be able to do what they did against Rebuff

928
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 5: last week. I think that was, you know, certainly an

929
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 5: eye opener and a lot of young talent on that

930
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 5: team and a new coach and coach Koefer and you know,

931
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 5: pretty exciting, and watching the fans come on the field

932
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 5: after the game was you kind of tell it was

933
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 5: just kind of a special night. But but I would

934
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 5: say too, like, you know Carmel, you know, doing what

935
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 5: they did against Fishers, you know, handling Fishers forty nine

936
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 5: to twenty four, and then you know, going into tonight

937
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 5: against Westfield, it's it's an even bigger, you know, bigger game,

938
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 5: bigger you know, I will say stakes, because even if

939
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 5: you lose, you don't really lose anything as far as

940
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 5: what can happen in the future, but it maybe just

941
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 5: gives you more of a you know, just establishes yourself

942
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 5: a little bit more as one of those teams to beat,

943
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 5: especially on the north side of that bracket where Westfield's

944
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 5: kind of been the team to beat. So I think

945
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 5: that was really an eye opener of what they did

946
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 5: the first week. And then I'll be at that game tonight.

947
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see what happens there between those

948
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 5: two teams and should be a fantastic atmosphere out there

949
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 5: at Carmel tonight. So you know, I you know, I

950
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 5: think some of the teams we probably expected to win did,

951
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 5: like you know, you know, New pal and some of

952
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 5: the teams that you know, we knew going into the

953
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 5: year were really good. Brownsburg although their game we didn't know,

954
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 5: you know, playing nashing ranked team out of Maryland, you know,

955
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 5: so to beat them, I think establishes them even more

956
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 5: so as the number one team in six A. But

957
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 5: but yeah, I mean it's a tonight, we'll find out more.

958
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 5: Sometimes you overreact to week one, like you know, kind

959
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 5: of like the NFL. But you know, I think tonight

960
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 5: we'll find out. It's a really good slate of games tonight.

961
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 5: So I'm really interested to see what happens with with

962
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 5: a lot of these big games.

963
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: Actually, Brownsburg's got a big one, right. They have Cathedral tonight, don't.

964
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 5: They they do? Yeah, Cathedral handled Ben Davis last week,

965
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 5: and you know that'll be another great test, you know,

966
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 5: two kind of you know, I would say contrasting teams necessarily,

967
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 5: but Cathedral's gonna you know, they run the ball really well.

968
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 5: They're they're good defensive team. Brownsburg has been kind of

969
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 5: the more explosive teams, so a little bit of a

970
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 5: contrast of styles to some aspect there. But yeah, that

971
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 5: should be a fantastic game as well. Uh, you know,

972
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 5: New palad Decatur Central will be a good one. You

973
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: know Roun Collig Franklin Central some of the some of

974
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 5: the highlighted games, I would say from tonight Llen hosts

975
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 5: Fishers that could that could be a good one as well,

976
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 5: Avon Ben Davis. So you get a lot of a

977
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 5: lot you kind of go down the list. There's a

978
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 5: lot of good games tonight.

979
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 1: North Central, by the way, takes on Hamilton Southeastern HS

980
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: is pretty good, aren't they They are?

981
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, very good team. I would put them right up there.

982
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 5: I think they're ranked number six in the in the

983
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: state this week in six A and you know, they

984
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 5: had a you know, kind of a knockdown drag out

985
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 5: with the four win Carol last week and they they

986
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 5: won that game fourteen to seven. But uh, you know,

987
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 5: they're just very solid. Every year. They did lose some

988
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 5: some players up front, you know, you lost some players

989
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 5: to graduation, but they seem to reload. Michael Kelly's done

990
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 5: a great job there and and that'll be a tough,

991
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 5: you know, tough game for North Central obviously, but just

992
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 5: the fact that you you know, take a little bit

993
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 5: of momentum from you know, kind of getting that first win.

994
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 5: I mean, nothing better than being one to know after

995
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 5: one week. I mean as so, you know, I think

996
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 5: you take some confidence into into the game tonight. Their schedule,

997
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 5: North Central schedule really tough here these next three weeks.

998
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 5: But but I think some excitement certainly for that program

999
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 5: to uh, you know, to get over that losing.

1000
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: Street Rushville and Shelbyville. Baby Golden Bear is going to

1001
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: stun the world and that that's a program that's really struggled,

1002
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: right it is.

1003
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, they they I know they had some uh you know,

1004
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 5: there were some real struggles a few years ago where

1005
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 5: they were, you know, it's kind of losing every game

1006
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 5: there for a while, and you know, numbers were pretty low,

1007
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 5: and you know, Michael Clevenger was trying to get it

1008
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 5: going there. And then you know, they changed coaches a

1009
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 5: couple of times and Scott Fitzgerald's taken over, who was

1010
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 5: part of that program in different levels of football there,

1011
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 5: and they have got it. I wouldn't say fully turned around,

1012
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 5: but they've they've done better here these last few years

1013
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 5: and have been able to win some games and you know,

1014
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 5: get some people out. I know they had a couple

1015
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 5: of key injuries to last week, but they did get

1016
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 5: a win, and uh, you know that's always again nothing

1017
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 5: better than being one to know after one week. So

1018
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: we'll see they Rushville tonight at home, so we'll see

1019
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 5: if they can keep it going. But they at least

1020
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 5: have got that program where they're they're winning a little

1021
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 5: more than they were before and you know, have some

1022
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 5: better numbers out this season.

1023
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: Kyle Drip our guest talking in high school football. Kyle,

1024
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me Brebuff certainly. You know, I was

1025
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: talking to doctor White who was at the Rebuff North

1026
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: Central game, and he was telling me that that Rebuff,

1027
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, their numbers were down, they didn't dress as

1028
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: many kids as they normally would are having years past.

1029
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: There was a narrative probably five to ten years ago

1030
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: that just the overall concussions in football. Yeah, and I'm

1031
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: talking about at the professional level, that that was going

1032
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: to have that with the rise in popularity of soccer,

1033
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: that we were going to start to see a decrease

1034
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: in participation numbers in football because fewer kids were playing

1035
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: it and the NFL was, you know, then doing like

1036
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: the flag football deal or touch football and just trying

1037
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: to keep kids involved. Have we seen an actual decrease

1038
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: in numbers or is it kind of case by case.

1039
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I mean I would. I know,

1040
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 5: the National Federation puts out numbers, and they put them

1041
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 5: out recently. I can't remember what the eleven man football

1042
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 5: numbers were, you know, but it seems like the conversations

1043
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 5: that you're talking about. I definitely wrote a couple of

1044
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 5: stories around that time where the concussion issue was definitely

1045
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 5: a real thing and it was worrisome. And I think

1046
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 5: you're right on the timeframe. It seems like it was

1047
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 5: about five years ago or a little bit more where

1048
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 5: it was it seemed like it was going to be

1049
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 5: a real issue at the high school level.

1050
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: I know.

1051
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 5: You know that was around the time too where the

1052
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 5: the kind of the rugby style tackling was becoming more

1053
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 5: popular kind of started with the Seahawks and some other

1054
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 5: programs were kind of implementing that, and that's become more common.

1055
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 5: And then I think it's a lot of the biggest

1056
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 5: difference I see or when I talk to coaches, like,

1057
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 5: you know, we just don't hit like we used to,

1058
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 5: and we're not we're trying to be smart about how

1059
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 5: much we're doing in practices. And I think that's become

1060
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 5: just way more commonplace where you know, you're not going,

1061
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 5: you know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and you're just you're

1062
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 5: just locking heads and you know kind of like we

1063
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 5: used to do. I mean, that was kind of the

1064
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 5: way you just did it for years, and I think

1065
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 5: coaches have become smarter to that where you're you're just

1066
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 5: not doing that, You're not going, you know, all out

1067
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 5: all every practice and and so I think that has

1068
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 5: helped too, I think. And also the the the the

1069
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 5: the caps that they wear and the different helmet styles

1070
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 5: have helped. And a lot of the equipment stuff is

1071
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 5: has helped, I think too. So I think it's alleviated

1072
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 5: some of those you're always going to have, you know,

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00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 5: football issues with injuries and things like that, but I

1074
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 5: haven't you know, I think the numbers have been helped

1075
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 5: because people are more comfortable with the you know, the

1076
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 5: equipment and just practicing smarter and you know, doing things

1077
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 5: to kind of help the game along. I really worried

1078
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 5: there for a while where it was all headed with football.

1079
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 5: You know, I I'm a big believer in you know,

1080
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 5: football is great for a school and for young men

1081
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 5: to be part of, and you know, any sport really,

1082
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 5: but you know, I think football is great, and I

1083
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 5: was worried it was where it was going and that

1084
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 5: it feels like we're on better footing now than we were.

1085
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 5: And it's kind of case by case, I think with

1086
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 5: different schools, depending on you know, just kind of your

1087
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 5: your program maybe or the people running your program, or

1088
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 5: you know, kind of the you know, economics or whatever

1089
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 5: your program is where it's at. But I do feel

1090
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 5: like that concern with concussions is kind of you know,

1091
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 5: it's not something you hear a lot that much anymore.

1092
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to in conclusion here a couple of

1093
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: my like, you know, each year I adopted school, right

1094
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, it was Beach Grove. They

1095
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: got a big win right last Friday.

1096
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, they did a huge win. They beat Greenfield Central.

1097
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 5: That was that was one of the big I think

1098
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 5: surprises of the night. Yeah, they handled them twenty eight

1099
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Speaker 5: to nine.

1100
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: A young team for Beach Grove, as I understand, So

1101
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: that's a good win for them. Short Ridge is one

1102
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: that I have paid attention to in years past. What

1103
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: did short Ridge do? Do we know or what they're

1104
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 1: doing tonight?

1105
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 5: Yeah? They lost. They lost a close one to Purdue

1106
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 5: Pauli for Due Paally had a kid get six and

1107
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 5: a half sacks in that game, which is you know

1108
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 5: he's gonna break I say, he's gonna break all the records,

1109
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 5: Lawrence Taylor didn't you know, he's gonna break all If

1110
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 5: he keeps that pace up, he's going to be, you know,

1111
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 5: setting some records. So but yeah, they shortage loss to

1112
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 5: Produe Pauli six to zero.

1113
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: Okay, and then so they shut him out with six

1114
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: and a half sex I guess you should. And then

1115
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: my Crystal House. Now tonight Crystal House, they were on

1116
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: the short end. I realized, this is a group that

1117
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: you talked about that's been working hard and they're you know,

1118
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: kind of putting it together. A program there. They take

1119
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: on Noblesville Homeschool. Now, I don't know if that means

1120
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: it's like five kids that live in Noblesville that are homeschooled,

1121
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: or if this is a conglomerate of homeschooled kids that

1122
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: then happened to play in Noblesville, but come from all over.

1123
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: But either way, Crystal House tonight trying to snap the skid.

1124
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that team. A few years ago I went

1125
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 5: out and did a story on that homeschool team. They're

1126
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 5: they're the Noblesville Homeschool Lions and they play you know,

1127
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 5: they've been around for a while, so it's kind of

1128
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 5: an interesting you know situations homeschool kids, and they play

1129
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 5: a lot of kind of the smaller I say schools

1130
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 5: and then you know, play some other homeschool teams. I

1131
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 5: think they played a team from a different state in

1132
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 5: their first game. So yeah, they've been around for a

1133
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 5: little while, and they, like I said, they play some

1134
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 5: you know, kind of a mixed schedule. But yeah, the

1135
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 5: Crystal House will play them tonight. I think that game

1136
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 5: is at Crystal House, so that that'll be, uh, that'll

1137
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 5: be an interesting game tonight, and you know, hopefully they can.

1138
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,479
Speaker 5: I know they had a rough first week, but again, yeah,

1139
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 5: like you said, they're kind of rebuilding a little bit.

1140
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, it's it's hard to build a

1141
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 5: football program, but uh, you know, hopefully they can get

1142
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 5: things going there.

1143
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: All right, Kyle, we will talk to you next week.

1144
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: We'll recap what happens this week, and we'll find out

1145
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: what's on the docket in terms of other games or

1146
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: players or six and a half sack performances that you're

1147
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on.

1148
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 5: Absolutely appreciate you having on, Jake.

1149
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: Kyle Needrip from the Indianapolis Star Po. Taylor Tannebom joins

1150
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: us now and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so.

1151
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: She is with the ACC Network, Clemson, LSU Big One,

1152
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Miami Big One. Yes, Eddie Jake.

1153
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 6: When I was talking with Taylor to make sure she's

1154
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 6: all good to go, she goes, why in the hell

1155
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 6: is Jake screaming about Jacoby Brissett right now?

1156
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: Why not?

1157
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: So much changes but nothing changes in Indianapolis at the

1158
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: same time, you know what I mean?

1159
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, why not talk about Jacoby Brissett?

1160
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 5: Right?

1161
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always down for ACC guy.

1162
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: We love that Jacoby Brissette. Like I said, so, he's

1163
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: the j R. Smith of Charity Basketball. Correct. I played

1164
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: in a game with him and literally, if Jacoby Brissett

1165
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: touched the ball and nobody else was getting it. That

1166
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: dude shot from everywhere. All right, Taylor, I will lead

1167
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: it with this, Taylor, tannebomb, I will let you select Clemson, LSU,

1168
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: Notre Dame Miami. You would like to begin by conversing

1169
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: about which.

1170
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 3: Game, Well, we can start with LSU Clemson, considering. I

1171
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 3: am in Seneca right now on my way to campus

1172
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: because we've some television to doing a little bit, So

1173
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 3: let's start there.

1174
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: Jake, I love Taylor. When you drive now, I don't

1175
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: know if you're if you're taking this path in the.

1176
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: Passenger seat, full disclosure, I'm not driving.

1177
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: It's okay, no, understood, and appreciate it. When you drive

1178
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: into Clemson, South Carolina, and I don't know if it's

1179
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: the route from Seneca, but I love when you get

1180
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: about five miles out and then suddenly the orange paw

1181
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: prints are painted in the middle of the road on

1182
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: the interstate. Love it, Love everything about it.

1183
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 3: It's the best lake views. What could be better? A

1184
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 3: beautiful day on the eve of some great college football.

1185
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: Okay, that game, you know. It is my thought and

1186
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: belief that while it would be fabulous if Clemson wins it,

1187
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: I think that if they were to stay tight with

1188
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: LSU and not get a win, they still would have

1189
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: opportunity because there's so much expectation of them to be

1190
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: able to if they were to do what Notre Dame

1191
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: did a year ago lose to Northern Illinois early Taylor.

1192
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: My point being, if you're going to lose a game

1193
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: and you're hoping to get in the College Football Playoff,

1194
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: you can lose early and still have plenty of time

1195
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: to make up for it. Agree or disagree absolutely.

1196
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 3: I mean, for Clemson, this is the standard for them.

1197
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: They open up with big games like that you saw

1198
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: it last year is the perfect blueprint. They lost to

1199
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: Georgia big in that opener at Mercedes Benz Stadium, and

1200
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: then they lose a few more during the regular season,

1201
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: but they win the ACC and their favor to do

1202
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 3: again this year. So if they win the ACC despite

1203
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 3: losing tomorrow, it's not a big deal because they get

1204
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: that auto bid and they'll have some other opportunities along

1205
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 3: the way. But certainly this is what Clemson would like

1206
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 3: to have, and I think for the league in general,

1207
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 3: for the ACC, it's a constant battle against the narrative

1208
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 3: of obviously being the little brother and you have the

1209
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: Big ten and you have the SEC, and then there's

1210
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: this large gap and there's the acc You need your

1211
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 3: top teams in this league to be competing against the

1212
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: top teams and other leagues. So I think while Clemson

1213
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 3: and Miami could afford to lose because they're going up

1214
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 3: against top ten opponents, for the narrative of this league,

1215
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: I think those are the two most actually important games

1216
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: for them to win.

1217
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: Okay, for Notre Dame and taking on Miami. And you know,

1218
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: obviously we know that that Marcus Freeman's group is going

1219
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: to be very very good quarterback question. I guess because

1220
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: you have a new quarterback for Notre Dame. But Miami

1221
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: is a team Taylor that when you look at on paper,

1222
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: if you're Notre Dame, you look at it and you go, hey, listen,

1223
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: kudos to them. They start out with Miami, then they

1224
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: got Texas A and m After that, they've got a

1225
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: sneaky one I think against North Carolina State, which you

1226
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: kind of never know. But let's begin with Miami. Because

1227
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: they're Notre Dame fans listening to the show, we can

1228
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: expect to see what in terms of what kind of

1229
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: team they're going to see in Miami.

1230
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: Well, I think you can expect, certainly an offense that's

1231
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 3: going to be flashy, right. I know it's a new

1232
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: quarterback in Carson Beck. It is not cam Ward. Do

1233
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: not expect to see the offscript, heroics, magician like football

1234
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: that you got out of cam Ward. It's going to

1235
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: be what Carson Beck is good at because that's how

1236
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator Shannon Dawson Taylor's his offenses. And look, I

1237
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: know a lot of people are looking at Carson Beck

1238
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 3: like you had a down year in twenty four. That

1239
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: twenty three Carson Beck is still in there. So I

1240
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 3: think you're going to see an offense that is going

1241
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: to score some points. I don't think that's necessarily going

1242
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: to change. You have new pieces at the pass catcher

1243
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 3: position and in the backfield for sure, but the same

1244
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 3: standard is expected. I think it's going to be different. Defensively.

1245
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 3: They have a new defensive coordinator in Corey heather Men,

1246
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: who comes from Minnesota, So if you're a Big ten fan,

1247
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 3: you might know a little bit about him and what

1248
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: he did defensively for the Golden Gophers, and they're hoping

1249
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: that translates down to Coral Gables. That was really Miami's

1250
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: achilles heel last year was Defensively, I do think their

1251
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 3: strong suit is up front and that defensive line, And

1252
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: I think if you're a Notre Dame fan, that's the

1253
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 3: battle you're going to be watching is in the trenches.

1254
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: Because both of these teams are built from the inside

1255
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 3: out offensive and defensive lines. Top tier recruits death at

1256
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 3: both sides, and for both Notre Dame and Miami. So

1257
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: I think you're going to expect to see if you're

1258
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 3: watching Miami, the normal high powered offense, you're going to get. Defensively, though,

1259
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: I expect them to be more sound. I expect them

1260
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 3: to be a little bit better at defending explosive plays.

1261
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 3: They were well, I guess putting it lightly, they struggled

1262
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 3: in that area last year. So I don't know exactly

1263
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: what you're going to get because obviously it's weak one.

1264
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: But I do think defensively they'll be a little bit better.

1265
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 3: But watch that defensive line, if anything, for the defense.

1266
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: When you go around. Taylor Tannebaum is our guest of

1267
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: course at the ACC Network by way of WTHR Channel thirteen.

1268
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: When she was here in Indy. Taylor when you have

1269
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: gone around and talked to different ACC coaches in your

1270
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: capacity and done the camps and all of the things

1271
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: that you've done. And I know that they are not

1272
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: by definition a charter ACC league school, but they played

1273
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: the ACC schedule. What has been the outside South Bend

1274
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: read or perspectives regarding Notre Dame.

1275
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: That they're going to be good and that last year

1276
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 3: for Marcus Freeman wasn't a fluke. He's built on every

1277
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: single year that he's been there, and I expect that

1278
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 3: to be the same every single year. I think you

1279
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: get general consensus around the league they'd love for Notre

1280
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 3: Dame to join as a football school. They're part of

1281
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 3: the ACEC and everything else, but I don't think that's

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Speaker 3: going to happen. And I understand why money is certainly

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Speaker 3: at the forefront of everybody's mind this day and age

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Speaker 3: in college athletics, But I think everybody expects when you

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Speaker 3: play Notre Dame, first of all, you circle that one

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Speaker 3: on the calendar, because that's one when you're in the

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Speaker 3: committee room they're going to be looking at because Notre

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Speaker 3: Dame is one of the top tier teams in all

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Speaker 3: of the land. The other part too, that is. You know, obviously,

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Speaker 3: if you're playing Notre Dame, your eyes are going to

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Speaker 3: be in the spotlight. You're going to be in a

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Speaker 3: nationally broadcast game. So it's important for the league in

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Speaker 3: general to make sure that they compete against the Irish

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Speaker 3: every single time they play. Even though it's a non

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Speaker 3: con game, it's very much acc adjacent.

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Speaker 1: Taylor, what do you most miss about Indianapolis?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: My friends, you, the people, the summer and fall weather.

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Speaker 3: Those are my favorite things. I will get a little

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Speaker 3: bit of that now that I live in Connecticut. But

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Speaker 3: I miss my people. Man, I miss all of you.

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Speaker 3: And I'm getting to figure out who the Colts quarterback

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Speaker 3: is going to be most importantly.

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Speaker 1: By the way, have you know you who I don't miss?

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Speaker 3: But I won't go there. Okay, that's an inside.

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Speaker 1: Joke, that's right, have you uh? Just out of curiosity?

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Speaker 1: Have you lived a winter yet in Connecticut? Or was

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Speaker 1: it wind exactly? Did you move to Bristol?

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Speaker 3: I moved in January, so I lived half a winter. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I did live winter, which was a really weird time

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Speaker 3: to move. I would argue that Indianapolis is a harder

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Speaker 3: winter than the Northeast, but now that I say that,

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Speaker 3: it'll probably smell one hundred inches.

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Speaker 1: My understanding is Bristol, Connecticut, in the the middle of February,

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Speaker 1: the sun sets at two thirty in the afternoon. Is

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Speaker 1: that right?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely correct? And that's the hardest part. It's like you're

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Speaker 3: living in darkness at all times.

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Speaker 1: H Okay, here's my last thing. I just saw the

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Speaker 1: other day, Tailor that one of the shelters here in

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis was doing a you know, they were kind of

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Speaker 1: a capacity for our little four legged friends. And I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people get worried about it because

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Speaker 1: they think about like the nature of dangers of dogs

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Speaker 1: and whatever else. You are a dog rescue mom, Mitch

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Speaker 1: is the best. I wanted to give you thirty seconds

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Speaker 1: to let people know that while they there is a

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Speaker 1: stereotype and you certainly need to be understanding and do

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Speaker 1: your homework, that rescue dogs are the best.

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Speaker 3: I am a pit bull mom, and any dog that

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Speaker 3: you look at at a breeder, I promise you was

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Speaker 3: sitting in a shelter somewhere, and probably somewhere in Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: or the Indiana area. So if you're looking for a

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Speaker 3: specific breed, don't go to a breeder. Go to a

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Speaker 3: shelter because I promise you the love that you're looking

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Speaker 3: for you're going to find there. They're going to change

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Speaker 3: your life. You're not just going to change theirs. They're

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Speaker 3: going to change your life because they are looking for

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Speaker 3: a home and they need you. And I'm begging you.

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Speaker 3: I'm pleading to a Hamilton humane is where I got

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Speaker 3: my dog, Mitch. And I know you're a rescue guy too. Wonderful,

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Speaker 3: easy process, seamless, and they will put you in the

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Speaker 3: best position possible to make sure you have the best

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Speaker 3: for your friend at home.

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Speaker 1: How far are you from Clemson right now?

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Speaker 3: We are in traffic on campus Actually, just past the

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Speaker 3: ESO Club.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I know exactly where you are. Mad

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Speaker 1: Mushroom Pizza coming up on the left, and then if

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Speaker 1: you hook another left, you can go to Tigertown Tavern.

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Speaker 1: I always get one beer before every game, but you

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Speaker 1: can't do that if you want an honor.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: No, here's the thing. I'm off TV tomorrow by thirty thirty.

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Speaker 3: Game is until seven thirties, So I'm just saying go.

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Speaker 1: Down to the Tigertown tavern and get one beer and

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Speaker 1: then there's like if you go around in the back patio,

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Speaker 1: there's a big tiger print on the wall. Shannon and

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Speaker 1: I get our picture there when every time we're there.

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Speaker 1: It's tradition like no other. It's the absolute best.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll I'll send you some pictures.

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Speaker 1: All right. Much appreciated, Taylor and Joy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, appreciate your friend.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye, Taylor, tannebo. I'm joining us from the ACC Network.