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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan Morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan.

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Speaker 2: A good Tuesday morning to you. Thank you for starting

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Speaker 2: your day with us. Rick Carlisle will join us coming

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Speaker 2: up nine a clock. We will have Simon Cordo pass

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Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator with Philip Rivers down at Saint Michaels

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Speaker 2: High School. I believe the athletic director as well daftanin

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Speaker 2: say high school sports. James like wearing nine different hats

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Speaker 2: right for those people in those athletic departments. He will

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Speaker 2: join us coming up at nine to thirty. Obviously a

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Speaker 2: lot yesterday sending around Chane Stecken's comments Again. Philip Rivers

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Speaker 2: will indeed be the starter coming up here on Monday night,

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Speaker 2: and we'll get more into Anthony richardson what exactly it

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Speaker 2: means for him to be cleared from that eye injury

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Speaker 2: he's not practicing over two months. James, I thought the

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Speaker 2: most telling thing from psych in all day yesterday, and

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Speaker 2: I wasn't that surprised by it. But I think at

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Speaker 2: times we don't necessarily hear stike and offer the direct

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Speaker 2: quote that backs up maybe like my level of surprise

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Speaker 2: or my level of how I really think he feels.

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Speaker 2: He obviously got peppered with a ton of quarterback related questions.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, you said ten to fifteen quarterback related questions,

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Speaker 2: something along those lines.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing a split a percentage, probably ninety percent

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Speaker 3: of the questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a ton of quarterback questions. And finally at

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Speaker 2: the end, in the midst of answering the question, it

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Speaker 2: almost felt like to me he was a little tired

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Speaker 2: of them all. And it was it wasn't like he

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Speaker 2: was yelling or mad or fed up, And actually was

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Speaker 2: one of his longer answers that he gave. But in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the answer he said something to the

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Speaker 2: effect of, in regards to Rivers, he goes, we didn't

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Speaker 2: bring him here to sit on the bench. I'll say that.

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Speaker 2: And in Shane Steiken Lingo James, he rarely is that demonstrative,

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Speaker 2: if that's the right word. With a quote. I was

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Speaker 2: really struck by that quote of if you listen to

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Speaker 2: the first whatever he spoke to us for let's call

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Speaker 2: seven or eight minutes. Yeah, he backs Rivers and he

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Speaker 2: says he's going to be the starter, and he explains

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Speaker 2: why he thinks there's a little bit more to the offense.

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Speaker 2: But like for all those out there that we're curious,

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Speaker 2: could Leonard get a shot? Is Anthony Richardson going to

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Speaker 2: get a shot? I thought that was just the money

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Speaker 2: quote from Stichen, agree, disagree, whatever you want to feel

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Speaker 2: about it. In Shane Stiken's eyes, this is Philip Rivers

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Speaker 2: football team right now.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I got that same reaction sending the airport. Actually

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Speaker 3: I was taking that zoom call in Chicago. And to

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Speaker 3: add to that conversation a bit more, I think hearing

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Speaker 3: him talk about Anthony and trying to explain the difference

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Speaker 3: between Anthony being off for months at a time versus

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Speaker 3: Philip being off for years at a time was also

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Speaker 3: kind of interesting because he didn't really answer that question.

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Speaker 3: He just said the question back to him or back

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Speaker 3: to us rather where he said, well, one guy's dealing

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Speaker 3: with the injury, the other guy hasn't. That's the differences,

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Speaker 3: simple as that. And what was your reaction maybe to

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Speaker 3: that part of it, Kevin, because that to me didn't

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Speaker 3: sound like all that optimistic about Anthony Richardson playing again

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Speaker 3: this season, And I get the question. The premise of

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Speaker 3: the question is great, how can one guy who, yeah,

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Speaker 3: or hasn't been around the team for years be a

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Speaker 3: better option than the other guy who apparently is getting

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Speaker 3: close to being physically clear to play football again, and

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Speaker 3: he has been around your team, he is a member

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Speaker 3: of your team currently, So that part of it, Kevin

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Speaker 3: was a bit interesting to me, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is where I raised my hand when

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Speaker 2: we get into these sorts of chats James, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: what the hell do I know about medical stuff?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What I know about the Anthony Richardson injury situation was

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Speaker 2: this was an extremely gruesome and I think I'm not

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Speaker 2: stepping out of bounds here. I think vision threatening is

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Speaker 2: an accurate way to put it. It was a very

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Speaker 2: serious injury, human injury, not football injury. Human.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, part of the recovery was waiting to get his

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Speaker 2: You know, how long does that take? What type of

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Speaker 2: physical activity is he allowed to do in the two

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Speaker 2: months that he has been out, Like, all of those

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Speaker 2: You know you can't just, hey, go patch up the eye. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: for a guy that I think has had accuracy issues,

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Speaker 2: you would certainly need pristine vision from him if you're

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Speaker 2: not sure of where he he's at. I all continue

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Speaker 2: to say what we've said for the last several months now,

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Speaker 2: this season to play meaningful snaps for him. You know,

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Speaker 2: maybe he becomes the backup for whatever week seventeen or eighteen.

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Speaker 2: But still even then, I'm trying to play this out

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Speaker 2: if a guy has missed multiple months, you would need

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Speaker 2: you know, being available for that team in a game.

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Speaker 2: To forrest Buckner for example, Let's just use him. And again,

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Speaker 2: I know all injuries aren't the same. You know, Buckner's

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Speaker 2: missed a month plus and the thought is he practiced

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Speaker 2: think there is some optimism he could play on Monday.

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Speaker 2: So okay, Richardson's missed longer. Again, a neck and an

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Speaker 2: be behind Philip Rivers for whatever Week seventeen against Jacksonville. Maybe,

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Speaker 2: But again I'm not even sitting here a whole my

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Speaker 2: But still I have no idea where he's at, just

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Speaker 2: from a rehab standpoint, And we can disagree agree with that,

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Speaker 2: and that's fine, But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: this is Shane Stikeen's call, and Shane Sdykeen. This ship

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Speaker 2: will be steered by Philip Rivers that I am full belief.

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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it goes disastrous. I think there was

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Speaker 2: gone with Leondard. Yeah, like you weren't in exposed Rivers

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers apparently felt fine after the game. I think

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Speaker 2: it's even more in change seconds eyes that it's going

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Speaker 2: this audio. He thinks there's more there to the game plan.

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Speaker 2: He thinks there's more there vertically down the field. And

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Speaker 2: he was bull I mean he was bullish on that,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was bullish all last week about the guy's

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Speaker 3: physical ability, and that to me is probably the biggest

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Speaker 3: question with them coming out of retirement. This isn't like,

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Speaker 3: you know, an old guy coming back who can still

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Speaker 3: sling it like Joe Flackough. We never questioned his arm

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Speaker 3: But my only pushback to the conversation right now with

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Speaker 3: Stiken said, he ain't ride the bench to come here

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Speaker 3: and do that. But if they're mathematically a limited from

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Speaker 3: next week, does that change who starts?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Because yeah, that is that is a great question. I

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Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, James, because you guys crunch

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Speaker 2: the numbers much better than I. I don't believe they can

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Speaker 4: I don't think so either.

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Speaker 3: I think according to the Athletic playoff predictor model that

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Speaker 3: because it basically comes down to can you win your

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Speaker 2: Still you're gonna need help. But yes, yes, I think

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Speaker 3: But that to me is is and that's also like

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Speaker 3: Are you still starting this guy at forty four years old?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question. I don't think that question

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Speaker 2: at nine o'clock here on this Tuesday morning. Definitely want

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Speaker 2: to get some Indiana football alts. I went back and

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Speaker 2: watch the sixty minutes. I did have to share what

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Speaker 2: my favorite part of the sixty minutes episode was. But

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Speaker 2: you believe when you want to compare Philip Rivers and

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Speaker 2: Riley Leonard right now, you are Wis shangsteking, you think

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers gives us team the best chance, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm probably in that camp.

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Speaker 3: Well, after seeing his performance against Seattle, I can see

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Speaker 3: the argument for let me back up, going into it,

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Speaker 3: I was thinking the old guys should not be out there.

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Speaker 3: But saying it informant in Seattle, I thought it was fine.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that ry Leonard could have been any better.

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Speaker 3: Quite honestly, when it comes to scheme and the defense.

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Speaker 3: He was facing things you had to do to give

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Speaker 3: shocked at all there. Sticking with Rivers, I would agree

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Speaker 2: You know, as far as Rivers are Leonard, Jeff and

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Speaker 2: I talked about this a lot yesterday, and James we

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Speaker 2: really hit on it probably a good amount last week.

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Speaker 2: I think we're largely splitting hairs and really trying to

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Speaker 2: decipher who would give the Colts the best chance right now. Rivers, Leonard.

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Speaker 2: I guess let's just focus on those two, because I

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Speaker 2: still think Anthony Richardson is a ways away. The end

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Speaker 2: result would probably like if you would have told me

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, hey, Ryle Leonard starts and the Colts go

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Speaker 2: out there and score sixteen points in the game, I

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Speaker 2: probably would have said, Yeah, that's probably my general thought.

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Speaker 2: would go with Leonard though, And this is where the

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Speaker 2: debate I think comes down to it, are you trying

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Speaker 2: to create the higher floor or the higher ceiling? Rivers

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Speaker 4: Right and I think that's the point for them.

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Speaker 2: Will what will be different? James? What can be different?

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Speaker 2: Balls, I'm always nervous when to use penultimate. Is that

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Speaker 7: Well in English, it doesn't sound a smart Kevin smart

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Speaker 3: Oh no, we ain't got to be that smart for radio,

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Speaker 2: I know you nerd out over some of these stats,

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Speaker 3: For example, for those listening, if they throw a screen pass,

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Speaker 2: His average completed air yards on Sunday was zero point nine,

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Speaker 2: the last decade. And that's where my question lies. James,

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Speaker 2: it's going to change. The game plan is going to change.

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Speaker 2: We can do things more vertically. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: Now, tell me you have doubts. I don't blame you

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Speaker 2: That's probably my biggest question now moving forward, because again

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Speaker 2: In the Hey, we thought the game plan for Seattle,

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Speaker 2: It's more of a can your arm actually do that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think it would have to be besides, you

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm trying to The longest throw probably was the

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Speaker 4: I think it was the Warren one eliminated right now.

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Speaker 2: That's just a difficult game to play, because let's say

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Speaker 2: Ass what does cleared mean for? Anthony Richardson will hit

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Hoosiers and much more. Rick Carlisle at nine o'clock,

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Speaker 2: It's a fan morning show here on a Tuesday, Good Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: lead off the show, kind of a quiet week from

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Speaker 2: a sports standpoint at night, and that includes the NBA

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Speaker 2: team And let's talk with the head coach of the

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Speaker 2: NBA team here locally. Rick Carlisle joins us right now.

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Speaker 2: Pacers off until Thursday. They will take on the New

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Speaker 2: York Knicks as they get restarted. If you will amidst

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Speaker 2: the NBA Cup coach, good morning to you. How you doing.

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Speaker 5: Doing all right?

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Speaker 2: Some rare practice time for you, guys. I know you've

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Speaker 2: had a little bit here, but you get an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to be on the floor later today. What will be

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Speaker 2: the focus for you practice wise this week?

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Speaker 5: Getting better up end to the floor. You know, we

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Speaker 5: had some time.

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Speaker 9: Last week and uh we did some okay things in

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Speaker 9: the for in the two games. I said, really more

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Speaker 9: of the Philadelphia game than the Washington game. In the

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Speaker 9: Washing game was it was a very poor performance. But

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Speaker 9: we've got to keep working, going to keep working at

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Speaker 9: making progress.

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Speaker 5: Rick.

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Speaker 3: When you look at the defensive effort, particularly when it

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Speaker 3: comes to the Wizards game. What things stand out to

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Speaker 3: you about what has to change for your team to

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Speaker 3: obviously play with more effort and winning those types of contests.

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Speaker 5: Just at the beginning of the.

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Speaker 9: Game are our level of everything has got to be better.

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Speaker 9: We somehow came to the first quarter with a one

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Speaker 9: point lead. We had we had a couple of threes

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Speaker 9: that banked in, and we just had some some odd

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Speaker 9: things happened that positioned us to be ahead in that game.

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Speaker 5: It was it was fool's gold obviously, because.

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Speaker 9: You know, Washington was just playing with some more more presidence,

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Speaker 9: more force, you know, all those all those words you

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Speaker 9: you're me frequently.

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Speaker 8: Talking about, and.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, checond and third quarters were very poor and we

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Speaker 9: got behind the eight ball, and uh it was it

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Speaker 9: was too much to come back from, so plenty to

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Speaker 9: work on.

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Speaker 2: Getting basically back to practice today, back on the court

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Speaker 2: game wise, coming up Thursday will be the next for

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Speaker 2: Carlisle with us here on the Payloss Slickers hotline. Coach.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it happens at other points in the season,

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Speaker 2: but you will get an opportunity tonight where the team

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Speaker 2: that you play next is the standalone game and you,

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Speaker 2: I guess get to watch that live. I'm curious when

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Speaker 2: those opportunities do arise over the course of the season.

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Speaker 2: You get Nick Spurs tonight NBA Cup Championship game and

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Speaker 2: then you will see them on Thursday in your own building.

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Speaker 2: How much of a live scouting look does that offer you?

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Speaker 2: And what I guess benefit, if at all, is there

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Speaker 2: from that.

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Speaker 9: Well, when you say live, you mean just watching the

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Speaker 9: game in real.

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Speaker 2: Time, right, right, I guess that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean there's no other.

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Speaker 9: Games obviously, as you mentioned, so yeah, you can do that,

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Speaker 9: and that's uh yeah, that's that's a compelling game tonight.

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Speaker 9: You know, both both the games in the Cup semi

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Speaker 9: final we were terrific games. You know, I thought the

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Speaker 9: New York Orlando game was physical and competitive, and then

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Speaker 9: you know, the the Oklahoma San Antonio game was was

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Speaker 9: very very interesting. So, uh, this is a great matchup tonight.

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Speaker 9: You know, the way this happens, the way this works is,

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Speaker 9: you know, from a logistics standpoint, if if we choose

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Speaker 9: we meeting, the coaching staff choose not to watch it live.

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Speaker 5: In real time. So in other words, we have we.

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Speaker 9: Have interns that break down the games, do what we

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Speaker 9: call cutting the games and so that means we will

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Speaker 9: get the game emailed to us in a format where

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Speaker 9: you can download it pretty quickly and you can watch

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Speaker 9: the game start to finish with all the dead.

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Speaker 5: Time taken out.

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Speaker 9: So you know, that means you can watch a toll

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Speaker 9: in me a game and you know, about an hour

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Speaker 9: and if you skim through it, you can watch it

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Speaker 9: and you know, pretty and significantly less amount of time.

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Speaker 9: The advantage to that is obvious. You don't have the

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Speaker 9: lags of the commercials, et cetera. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 9: this is you know, I'm gonna I'll be watching this tonight.

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Speaker 9: This is gonna be It's gonna be a heck of

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Speaker 9: a game. I you know, and you know New York

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Speaker 9: I presumably will stay over and travel tomorrow, and you

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Speaker 9: know we'll catch them coming off the finals and and

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Speaker 9: you know we'll have to take advantage of the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: First placeers next matchup of the season. Coach, I want

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Speaker 2: to expand a little bit more on that kind of

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Speaker 2: curious about you know, from a preparation standpoint over the

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Speaker 2: course of the season, like for a back to back,

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Speaker 2: for example, if you're playing on a Friday and then

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Speaker 2: again on a Saturday. How much of that Saturday opponent

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Speaker 2: are you able to watch? Do you get just do

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Speaker 2: you cram I guess do you eliminate the Friday film

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Speaker 2: when you wake up Saturday morning, do you watch you know,

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Speaker 2: their last couple of games? Do you watch specifically? You

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Speaker 2: know certain cutups. As you mentioned, how do you treat

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Speaker 2: maybe the second night of a back to back from

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Speaker 2: a film watching standpoint, Over the course of the season.

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Speaker 5: It's the preppers for each game.

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Speaker 9: You know, each member of the coaching staff will have

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Speaker 9: will be responsible for a scout. So you know, one

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Speaker 9: of our coaches has New York and in this case,

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Speaker 9: you know we have a couple of days to prep.

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Speaker 9: So today, well we'll focus very much on ourselves and

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Speaker 9: things we need to do better as a team the

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Speaker 9: next opponent notwithstanding, and then you know tomorrow we'll be

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Speaker 9: more of a day gear toward preparation for the Knicks game.

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Speaker 9: So that's kind of how it works you when you

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Speaker 9: have a back to back, like for example, we play,

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Speaker 9: we play on a Thursday somewhere, and then we play

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Speaker 9: on a Friday somewhere, whether it's whether the Friday game

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Speaker 9: is home or on the road.

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Speaker 5: Oftentimes, if the other team.

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Speaker 9: Is playing back to back as well, we will get

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Speaker 9: their game from the previous night before we take off

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Speaker 9: on the plane after the game, so you know they'll cut,

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Speaker 9: they'll cut that game very quickly.

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Speaker 5: Et cetera.

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Speaker 9: And so then you know you have the game that

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Speaker 9: you played that night to look at, and then you

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Speaker 9: also have the the.

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Speaker 5: Opponent's last game.

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Speaker 9: And then as you prepare you if you've played them

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Speaker 9: already this season, you certainly will look at the last

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Speaker 9: game that you play against them, and you'll look for

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Speaker 9: things to to do, uh, to do better obviously, or

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Speaker 9: or to uh to do differently.

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Speaker 3: Rick, looking at some of the numbers you have had

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Speaker 3: this season offensively. I know you've talked about it at length,

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Speaker 3: you know, not necessarily being who you are. Typically when

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Speaker 3: you have Halliburton out there, how much easier he makes

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Speaker 3: things for you, guys. But in this Wizard's game other

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Speaker 3: games throughout the season, will you shoot it that poorly?

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Speaker 2: How do you grade the results?

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Speaker 3: I know it's the results based league and you want

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Speaker 3: to make shots, but do you go back through it

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Speaker 3: and say, this is a good shot, this is the batch?

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Speaker 3: How do you, you know, view that part of it

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Speaker 3: when you know, there's more to it than just making

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Speaker 3: the missing shots.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we have different metrics you know too. You know,

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Speaker 9: there's an expected shot production metric that's pretty interesting and

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Speaker 9: and I believe it has some real accuracy elements to it.

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Speaker 5: We we did not score well on that in the

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Speaker 5: Wizards game. You know, we just didn't play well.

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Speaker 9: And we didn't generate generate enough great shots and and

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Speaker 9: we didn't defend well enough, and so.

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Speaker 5: You know, it was, uh, it was a it was a.

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Speaker 9: Rough afternoon, not fun. Give them credit, you know, they

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Speaker 9: they came out and uh and and executed very well

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Speaker 9: and that played with lot more force pasers.

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Speaker 2: Trying to get back on track coming up Thursday with

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Speaker 2: the next for Carlisle and his bunch on the on

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Speaker 2: the floor. Later today for a practice, coach, you said

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Speaker 2: something I guess it would have been before the Denver

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Speaker 2: game that I wanted to get your thoughts on. You're

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Speaker 2: asked a question about Nikola Jokic, and you mentioned that

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Speaker 2: you know, it's further proof that the most important things

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Speaker 2: in the game of basketball happen on the ground. I

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Speaker 2: believe you also referenced Luka also possesses some of that

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Speaker 2: same ability and it was kind of curious if you

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Speaker 2: could expand on that the most important things in the

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Speaker 2: game of basketball happened on the ground.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, it's it's a it's a it's a

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Speaker 9: beautiful game, and footwork has so much to do with

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Speaker 9: everything happening in the game of NBA basketball.

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Speaker 5: You're you're positioning defensively.

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Speaker 9: Is absolutely critical if you if you allow angles to

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Speaker 9: the opponent that has the ball that you're guarding individually,

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Speaker 9: I mean NBA players devour angles. So there's there's a

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Speaker 9: great importance in.

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Speaker 5: In remaining square.

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Speaker 9: And so that's you know, certainly one thing on the

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Speaker 9: on the defensive side, and then offensively.

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Speaker 5: You know, so much of leverage.

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Speaker 9: An NBA game comes from your connection to the ground

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Speaker 9: that that has a lot to do with how much

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Speaker 9: force you can play with when you when you go

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Speaker 9: into a situation where you're driving the ball and there's contact,

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Speaker 9: if you've already left the ground and somebody goes vertical,

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Speaker 9: you're not gonna have You're not gonna have the same

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Speaker 9: amount of ability to finish through through legal contact, you know,

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Speaker 9: vertical contact, those kinds of things, and then you know

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Speaker 9: it's just it's kind of an odd statement. I understand

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Speaker 9: the question. But those two players in particularly do not

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Speaker 9: play high flying games. But their level of their level

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Speaker 9: of productivity is you know, at the absolute peak of

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Speaker 9: the entire league because of what they were able to do, uh,

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Speaker 9: carving out space, seeing things, putting a defense in a bind,

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Speaker 9: and being able to make a late pass to somebody

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Speaker 9: for a wide open shot or a layup, as.

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Speaker 5: We see with Jokic so many times. And so.

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Speaker 9: And you look at you know, you look at the

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Speaker 9: history of the game and some of the other great players.

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Speaker 9: You know, Magic Johnson was not a high flyer. Now,

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Speaker 9: he was fast, and he was a lot quicker than

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Speaker 9: than people gave him credit for at his at his height,

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Speaker 9: but his size sort of belie the fact that he

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Speaker 9: was that quick. Bird was very quick too, and faster

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Speaker 9: than people thought. But both both of those players had

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Speaker 9: tremendous footwork and their ability to position themselves in a

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Speaker 9: position of strength, you know, to have a chance to

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Speaker 9: shoot the ball in the one hand. But they also

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Speaker 9: you know, by by by using footwork and using part

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Speaker 9: of their body as a second set of eyes, made

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Speaker 9: made them both you know, legal lethal passers as well.

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Speaker 9: And so I mean those are Those are some examples,

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Speaker 9: but it's a it's it's very much a technique and

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Speaker 9: and footwork game, and the players that have the best strength,

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Speaker 9: the best leverage, and the best vility ability to create

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Speaker 9: an advantage for themselves and their teammates are certainly the

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Speaker 9: most valuable.

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Speaker 3: Last one to let you go, Rick, and again we

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Speaker 3: have recall all joining us from the Pacers as the

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Speaker 3: head coach of the NBA franchise in our city. Rick,

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Speaker 3: we saw Pascal Siakam and his foundation partner with an

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis school Indiana Math and Science Academy West is good

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Speaker 3: power towards helping kids with literacy and things of that nature.

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Speaker 3: So how have you seen Pascal in the few years

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Speaker 3: that he's been here now ingratiate himself with the community

658
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Speaker 3: and really give back in that way because we know

659
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Speaker 3: his background and how he has beat consider amount of

660
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Speaker 3: odds to get to where he is today.

661
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Speaker 5: Well, glad you brought this up.

662
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Speaker 9: His foundation which is PS forty three Foundation, So that's

663
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Speaker 9: p as Pascal Siakam forty three is does amazing work

664
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 9: in the community and around the world, and.

665
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 5: I support his foundation every year. I believe in in

666
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 5: his work and what he's doing.

667
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 9: I also support the Nemhart Family Foundation, that's Andrew Nemhart's

668
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 9: foundation along with his his family and his dad is

669
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Speaker 9: a big part of that too, and they do a

670
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 9: lot of stuff in the Toronto area and also in

671
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 9: the Indian area. So you know, look, we have great guys,

672
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 9: great people. You know, you follow our team on Instagram,

673
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 9: You're always seeing really interesting things that that they're.

674
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 5: Doing out there.

675
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Speaker 9: Uh, there's a level of kindness, there's a level of spirit,

676
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 9: particularly this time of year, you know, as the holidays

677
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 9: rapidly approach. So we're just very proud to have all

678
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 9: these guys you know, on board with us here with

679
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 9: the Pacers. But the Pascal's work with his with his

680
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 9: p S fourty three Foundation is awesome and I would

681
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Speaker 9: encourage anyone out there looking to looking to help out

682
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Speaker 9: to consider donating. So it's a wonderful it's a wonderful operation.

683
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 9: They do great work.

684
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: P S forty three Foundation dot com. Very simple u

686
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Speaker 2: ur L for the Pascal Siakam Foundation. Pacers back to

687
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: practice today and they will have the knicks inside a

688
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: Gainbridge Field house coming up on Thursday. Coach, as always,

689
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: we appreciate it.

690
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Speaker 5: All right, thanks to you, guys. Mark.

691
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: I thought we were going to get a little high

692
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: school fight song here. Can't get the Saint Michael Cardinal

693
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: fight song. You don't think they run out to this song.

694
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 8: Here?

695
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: Did you sing your high school fight song, James Boyd,

696
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: No chance.

697
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 4: They lost pretty much every game that I ever attended.

698
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 7: So our football team got outscored by our soccer team

699
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 7: annually when I was in high school. So well that

700
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 7: tells you how well the Cremoni Warriors did.

701
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 2: I believe, pretty good success down there at Saint Michael's.

702
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: And certainly they were all eyes watching that game on

703
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: Sunday for their head coach and their offensive coordinator. And

704
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Speaker 2: we head to the paylist liquors hotline right now. He

705
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: is the defensive coordinator of the Saint Michael High School Cardinals.

706
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: I believe also the co athletic director down there. Simon

707
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: Carter Passi joins us coach. Good morning to you, Thank

708
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: you for the time.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, good morning, guys, thanks for thanks for having me.

710
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: Well, you describe the scene. I assume you were in

711
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: the area where all the kids were watching it, but

712
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: would you describe the scene Sunday and watching coach Rivers

713
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: slinging in an NFL game.

714
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Speaker 8: Yeah, so I actually, uh, I actually I was lucky

715
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 8: enough to make the trip up to Seattle, so I

716
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 8: got to watch him play in person. But talk to

717
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 8: all of our guys, uh when they got back and

718
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 8: you know, obviously saw all the videos and talk to

719
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 8: some of our parents, and you know, they were excited

720
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 8: and uh and they had a blast with it. And

721
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 8: I think, you know, leading up to it, they it

722
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 8: was just it was kind of it was surreal to him.

723
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 8: And and then you know, you get to turn on

724
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 8: the TV with with fifty to sixty year high school

725
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 8: football teammates and go watch your watch your high school

726
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 8: football coach throw it around on the biggest stage. And uh,

727
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 8: and they had a blast with it.

728
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Speaker 3: Now, Simon, I had a chance to cover high school

729
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: athletic for a number of years here in Indiana, and

730
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: I remember a high school coach telling me, kids do

731
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: not care about anything that happened yesterday. You could be

732
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: a legend, You could be you know, the best player

733
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: from wherever back in the day. But if you haven't

734
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: done it recently, they still have this teenage doubt of

735
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 3: like coach is just talking so all that in mind,

736
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: do you think they know now perhaps a little bit

737
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: more like, oh wait a second, they philip Rivers got

738
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: pretty good.

739
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, they definitely do. I don't know, I don't

740
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 8: know if any of our guys really doubted him. I

741
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 8: think they were, you know, nervous for him a little bit.

742
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 8: But but you know, they've seen him throw it around

743
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 8: at practice and and you know, do some QB drills

744
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 8: with Gunner, and so they they've seen that he can

745
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 8: he can still throw it around little.

746
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: And then after the game, I had a chance to

747
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: ask him, you know, and I get that's not the

748
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: main focus.

749
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: He's here to win.

750
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: And it was so honestly refreshing in a way to

751
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: hear how much it hurt him to lose that game.

752
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: And I'm like, do you've been there for all of

753
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: you know, seven minutes and you're sitting here like you've

754
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: been in all year, But you can tell how much

755
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: he cares. But within that, I said, do you think

756
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: there are some values that your sons and your children

757
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: and your players can take from this? And he got

758
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: so emotional talking about the ability to go for it

759
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: and not being afraid to chase the dream to try hard,

760
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: and you might not get what you want. There might

761
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: be feeling on the other side of it. So how

762
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: much do you think that message can resonate with the

763
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Speaker 3: focus back home in Alabama?

764
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Speaker 8: I think a ton And you know, kind of kind

765
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 8: of piggybacking off of that question that you asked him.

766
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Speaker 5: You know, Philip is.

767
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Speaker 8: The ultimate competitor, you know, and then he you know,

768
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Speaker 8: it doesn't matter if he had been with the team

769
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 8: for a week or you know all year, you know,

770
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Speaker 8: heard him that they lost that game, they had a chance,

771
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Speaker 8: and and our guys know that. And and you know,

772
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Speaker 8: he's been here for five years as our head football coach,

773
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Speaker 8: and so all of our kids have gotten to know him,

774
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Speaker 8: you know, very well. And and uh and and it's tough,

775
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 8: you know, to lose a tight game like that, and

776
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 8: and you know, it's it's very valuable for our guys

777
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Speaker 8: to see that because that's that's what.

778
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Speaker 5: We you know, it's one of the things.

779
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 8: That he always tells them. And you know, in big

780
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 8: games that we have, it's like just cut it loose,

781
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 8: like it doesn't you know, there's nothing to nothing to

782
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 8: be scared of, or you know, we got to go

783
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Speaker 8: do it.

784
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: So a voice of Simon cor Passi. He is the

785
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator alongside Philip Rivers down there at Saint Michael's

786
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 2: High School. He was in Seattle for Philip with the

787
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: Colts and Seahawks, of course on Sunday, Simon, your first

788
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: interaction with Philip Rivers was win.

789
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 8: I met Philip. Uh it was two I think it

790
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 8: was two years before he became our our head coach

791
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 8: down here. I think it was in two thousand. It

792
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 8: was summer of twenty eighteen, and he hosted a uh

793
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 8: hosted a summer camp down here, one day summer camp.

794
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 2: And were you at Saint Michael's at the time, because

795
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: I think I don't know if people fully realized it's

796
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: not like Philip Rivers necessarily, like you know, it was

797
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: destined to be. He was going to be the head

798
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: coach of Saint Michael's, you know, in third grade. This

799
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: is something that him and his wife have obviously, you know,

800
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: chosen to raise their large family down there.

801
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was, Yes, I was. I was currently at

802
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 8: Saint Michael And.

803
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 2: Just last week, what do you remember about when Philip

804
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: told you this was happening?

805
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 8: Uh, you know, it's it's it's it's come up a

806
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 8: couple of times, and so it wasn't it wasn't a

807
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 8: huge surprise to me when it but but but it

808
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 8: is still a little bit of a shock. It's like,

809
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 8: oh man, all right, let's see how it all. There's

810
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 8: still a lot of moving parts with it that gota

811
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 8: you know, there's groups that they got to go through

812
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 8: and for it to happen. But I was excited for him.

813
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 8: I mean, you know when when he mentioned it to me,

814
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 8: I just said, man, I think you got to go

815
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 8: for it. You know, there's there's you know, there's only

816
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 8: so many people in this world that get the opportunity,

817
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 8: you know, to go play on the biggest stage like that.

818
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 8: And he was, you know, lucky enough to be able

819
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 8: to do it for you know, seventeen years before this.

820
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 8: And and I said, man, you know, if you feel

821
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 8: good about it, like go go go do it again.

822
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 8: I mean, you're still good enough to do it, you

823
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 8: can and and uh And so I was. I was

824
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 8: really excited for him, really was.

825
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 3: We have Simon Corda Passi here on the payloff Slookers Hotline,

826
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: and someone who knows Philip Rivers very well and has

827
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: gotten on very well over the last few years coaching

828
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: down in Alabama. So as a defensive coordinator, how much

829
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: do you go back and forth with Philip about just

830
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: football in general and what those conversations like you had

831
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 3: when you know you're talking to somebody who could be

832
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame someday.

833
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's there's there's quite a bit of back and forth.

834
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 5: You know.

835
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 8: It's it's it kind of goes in stages. You know,

836
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 8: we're in training camp, summer, summer to training camp. You know,

837
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 8: it's it's a lot of you know, ones versus ones

838
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 8: and us versus us which which is which is great

839
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 8: for us defensively because we get so many different looks

840
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 8: and and so many different formations and plays, and so

841
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 8: it puts a lot of conflict on us defensively, and

842
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 8: it gives us a lot of opportunities to, you know,

843
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 8: talk through different things. And and there's times where we'll

844
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 8: stop and we'll you know, we'll look through and and

845
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 8: he's calling an offensive play and then it's like, hey, hey,

846
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 8: let's let's talk about this Simon real quick, and we'll

847
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 8: look at it all and and uh, you know, he's

848
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 8: he's one of the best football minds in this world.

849
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 8: And and you know, I tell people all the time, Yeah,

850
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 8: he's an unbelievable play caller and and sees it great offensively,

851
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 8: and there's no doubt about it, but he sees it

852
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 8: just as well on the on the other side of

853
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 8: the ball too, And uh, it's it's it's been. You know,

854
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 8: I'm very lucky, uh to get to spend as much

855
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 8: time as as I have with him and and you know,

856
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 8: learn as much as I have, uh being around him

857
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 8: him and all the knowledge he has of the game.

858
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 8: And you know, not even not even just the how

859
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 8: great of a you know, football mind he is, he's

860
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 8: he's an unbelievable you know I said it earlier, but

861
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 8: he's the ultimate competitor. He is an unbelievable leader. And

862
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 8: you know, he's one of the best people on this earth.

863
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 8: I mean, he truly is. And and uh it's it's

864
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 8: you know, we're we're very lucky at Saint Michael in

865
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 8: fair Hope to uh to have a guy that that

866
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 8: leads our football program on on a daily basis like him.

867
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 8: He's he really is truly unbelievable.

868
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 3: So Simon, we know that his son, Gunner is one

869
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: of the top quarterback prospects in the twenty twenty seven class.

870
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 3: For him in particular, how have you seen him react

871
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 3: to this moment seeing his dad go out there and

872
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: knowing that ideally he'd like to follow in those same footsteps.

873
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think a little bit of it. Uh.

874
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 8: Sunday was you know, I think for a lot of

875
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 8: us it was like, is this is like, are we

876
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 8: in reality right now? I mean, this is really happening. Uh.

877
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 8: And you know, you get to the stadium Sunday and

878
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 8: it's like, what in the world we just lost our

879
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 8: semi final football game a week ago and now all

880
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 8: of a sudden, we're you know, in Cela about to

881
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 8: go to watch the Colts play the Seahawks and and

882
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 8: Phillips starting. Uh. So I think, you know, but as

883
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 8: the game goes, it's you know, you still feel that

884
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 8: way a little bit, but it's just like he's back

885
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 8: and uh and it was exciting to see.

886
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: And that's the voice of Simon cord Passi gracious with

887
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: his time here on this Tuesday morning. He is the

888
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: co athletic director and the defensive coordinator down at Saint

889
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: Michael Catholic Fair and Fair Hope obviously Philip Rivers, the

890
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 2: head coach and the OC. How many of you went

891
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: out to Seattle? Obviously CBS showed his brother uh and

892
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: and Gunner quite a bit during the game. How many

893
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 2: of you were out there?

894
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 8: Yeah? It was it was. It was four or five

895
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 8: of us out there for that one.

896
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: Has there been any thought? I don't know. Philip had

897
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: some ties here to garn Aflic High School just north

898
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: of Indianapolis. Can we get a Fair Hope get on

899
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: high school matchup called the Philip Rivers Bowl?

900
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 8: Hey, we're we're in a reclass this year, so our schedule,

901
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 8: our schedule changes and we're looking for a couple of

902
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 8: non region games. Maybe they want to fly down to Pharaohope,

903
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 8: we can set up a big matchup.

904
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: How about that little home and home here. I mean

905
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: we are talking to the A D and Lord knows,

906
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: I've talked non conference schedules before on this show. Simon,

907
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: Thank you man. I know it's been a whirlwind. I

908
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: didn't realize you were traveling back, you know, to to Alabama.

909
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: So greatly appreciate you making time for us here, especially

910
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: with the time change and everything. And good luck. It's

911
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: an amazing, amazing story. I enjoyed yesterday actually went online

912
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: and watched a podcast between you and Philip. Some of

913
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: the students there at Saint Michael interviewed you, and it

914
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: was fun to see you guys obviously provide that for

915
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 2: the for the students. So good luck with everything down

916
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 2: on campus and enjoy this Christmas break and enjoy watching Philip.

917
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate you guys having us and excited for

918
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 8: excited for a big Monday night football game up there

919
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 8: in Indy and and go Colts.

920
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: If you were listening to the Fan morning show on

921
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three five and one oh seven five

922
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: the Fan.

923
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: Well big thanks to Simon cord PASSI that I fits

924
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: the coordinator down there at Saint Michael. Yes, that would

925
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: be Philip Rivers, the head coach in the OC. And

926
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 2: Simon just joined us he was in Seattle for the game.

927
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: Didn't even realize that. So that'll be up on the

928
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 2: podcast along with Rick Carlisle. We'll get to our sports

929
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: story countdown here in just a second. Shout out to

930
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: the Indie Classic this weekend. James Boy, they dropped off

931
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: some nice gift bush Beans, big old sponsor Bush's best right.

932
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got a lot of swag for this weekend. Again,

933
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: Indy Classic coming up that is Butler in Northwestern four

934
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: o'clock perdue in Auburn at six point thirty and this

935
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: will be on Peacock. So the Crossroads Classic has evolved

936
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: into this Indie Classic, purduing Butler seemed to be the

937
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: mainstays in it. Now I really miss, honestly the Crossroads Classic.

938
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: But Sports Tech HQ here in town has done a

939
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 2: great job in helping out with this event and should

940
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: be a nice time downtown Butler Northwestern and produce. Oh yeah,

941
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: and I would say you'll hear three, maybe four of

942
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: those teams in the NCAA tournament here coming up in

943
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 2: a few months.

944
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 4: Shout out to the Indie sports Corp.

945
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: What with me for something? Yeah? I do some grace

946
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: with you. Mark. Did I see that you were chuckling

947
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: at a Franklin the Turtle book?

948
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 7: Oh that was funny. Come on now I shared it

949
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 7: on Instagram.

950
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: Will you fill our audience? Are you familiar with the

951
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: Franklin books? I do know the Franklin book mark for

952
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: anybody out there has no idea what Franklin? Who Franklin is.

953
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 7: So Franklin is a turtle of children's lore, and you

954
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 7: know he would just do things. Franklin goes to the park,

955
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 7: Franklin goes to the zoo, Franklin eats beans for the

956
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 7: first time.

957
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.

958
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 7: And so my I had seen from a friend of

959
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 7: mine that had shared it, and I said, you know what,

960
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 7: this is pretty damn funny. I'm gonna share it myself.

961
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 7: And it was a it was an image of Franklin.

962
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 7: It was like, the whole thing that's going on right

963
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 7: now is there's parodies of the Franklin books. So the

964
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 7: book covers is something else. So adults have taken it

965
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 7: and ran with it and made some things. The one

966
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 7: that made me laugh out loud that I shared said

967
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 7: Franklin gets his hopes up against the Reds again, and

968
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 7: it's a it's a Franklin in a reds haat jersey

969
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 7: and a flag and he's got this look of terror

970
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 7: on his face.

971
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: I thought it was quite funny. You're sick. I hate

972
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: Cubs fans. I didn't make it.

973
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 7: I just laughed at it, and I thought it everywhere, well,

974
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 7: I made me laugh. If things make me laugh or something,

975
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 7: I will share it. I want to pass along good

976
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 7: vibes to everybody.

977
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: The next couple of weeks, we will make our countdown

978
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: here of the top ten sports stories in the state

979
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: of Indiana. We will begin Mark Dyton with what number

980
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: number ten? Is that the Ady Mitchell count?

981
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 7: It sounds like I think it's gotten a little higher,

982
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 7: and we haven't done it lately since he's been off

983
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 7: to the jetsman.

984
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: A nice touchdown catch you had from Brady Cook. I

985
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: think that's why Jeff's not here today.

986
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 7: He went to New York to go buy an authentic

987
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 7: eighty Mitchell Jersey.

988
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: Needed two for a son's here for Christmas, guys. I

989
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: will start number ten, and again we'll count this down

990
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: from ten to one. I'm actually going with the story

991
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: we've talked about today, Miles McLoughlin. I think that was

992
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: a great Indiana sports story this past year, and I've

993
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: got that ten on the list. Obviously at Gardnered National

994
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: Fame there you of course had Derrick Henry chiming in

995
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 2: on it. He fell three hundred and sixty four yards

996
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: short of the record with Lewire's beating Knox in the

997
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 2: semi state round. But I think that was a super

998
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: unique sports story for our state, and I thought deserving

999
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: of a spot on the list there, So Miles McLoughlin

1000
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: for me at ten.

1001
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 7: I will co sign because that's my number ten as well,

1002
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 7: because I thought that was a great story.

1003
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: It's not often we talk a ton of high school football.

1004
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 7: We do talk a lot, but not where we isolate

1005
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 7: a specific athlete. But he's such a tear that was

1006
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 7: must watch and much must follow throughout the college of

1007
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 7: the high school football season.

1008
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 2: So now he's mister football.

1009
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 7: Be a little controversial that he wasn't a runaway of sorts,

1010
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 7: but he is my number ten as well.

1011
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: James Boyd when he got at number.

1012
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: Ten, I thought I'd be on my own with this

1013
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: when it comes to the high school scene, but I

1014
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: am going with another high school event. This was a

1015
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: sectional championship boys basketball at Munsey Central, one of the greatest,

1016
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: most historic venues in the States, and it was Mount

1017
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: Vernon and Luke Erdle taking down Brayln Mullins and Greenfield

1018
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: Central back in March. Great game, double overtime. I believe

1019
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 3: Brayln Mullins had thirty eight, Luke Erdle had thirty six.

1020
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: One of the greatest high school basketball games I will I've.

1021
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 4: Ever seen or probably will ever see.

1022
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: It was theater.

1023
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: It was everything I love about Indiana sports, and boy,

1024
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: when I say basketball is different here, it is different.

1025
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 2: Place was packed.

1026
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: I got there right before tip off, sat at their

1027
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: scores table next to Kyle, Ned and Rep and watched

1028
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 3: history unfold. It was fantastic.

1029
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: I love that little high school flavored to get our

1030
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: lists started there again, we'll count it down from ten

1031
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: to one here over the next couple of weeks, I

1032
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: go a little college e on my next two spots

1033
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: here on the list as we'll continue that throughout the day. James,

1034
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: it's kind of a unique week for us on the

1035
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: Colts beat. It's almost an off day each of the

1036
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: next two days because of the Monday night game. So

1037
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: if you're used to the Colts normal schedule, everything is

1038
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: pushed back a day with the Monday night game coming

1039
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: up against the forty nine ers. So nothing today for

1040
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: the Colts. They'll have coordinators meet the media on Wednesday,

1041
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: their first practice on Thursday. I guess outside of roster moves,

1042
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 2: you don't expect anything too newsy from the Colts on

1043
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: a day like today, do you nah?

1044
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: Just making sure you get all the absence of the Bengay,

1045
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 3: the icy hot ready for number seventeen, the new number

1046
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 3: seventeen at Philip Rivers.

1047
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: Thank you again to Rick Carlisle and Simon cord Passi

1048
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: if you missed that earlier, the defensive coordinator and the

1049
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: co athletic director down there at Saint Michael High in

1050
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 2: Fair Hope. He seemed open to my home and home

1051
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 2: idea of Garan flying.

1052
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: Do we have some legal things we have to get

1053
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 3: clear with the I just say.

1054
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, you know Garon Saint Michael football game coming up.

1055
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: Mark Dacton, thank you, thank you for Baron with us. Everybody.

1056
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow