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Welcome. 38 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: All right, here we go. 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: So a big day yesterday orga day the governor appears 40 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 2: to be having some sort of mental breakdown in real time. 41 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: The it's not changing anything. 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: A bunch of people showed up to the still say, 43 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: a bunch maybe thirty people shut up to the state House. 44 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: The rally fizzled. Diego and Micah look like complete buffoons. 45 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: It's uh, let's get let's. 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 3: Get into it. 47 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 4: Okay. 48 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: So yesterday was org Eday at the State House, and 49 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: once again Rod Bray and the Senate. Rod Braley pro 50 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: tim the leader of the Senate, said we are not 51 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: doing redistricting, and in fact, we are voting to reconvene 52 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: January fifth, which will put all of this to bed. 53 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: Thank you, good day. 54 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: And then the governor had like came up as like 55 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: I will not be ignored Dan. He was the Glenn 56 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: close the boiling water on the stove. Rod Pray has 57 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: now become Michael Douglas. 58 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 5: Or he was Tomorrow's another day. As guys, my wedness, 59 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 5: I will never go hungry again. 60 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 2: I have I've never Jim married, you said thirty years 61 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: in the Indiana cent I have never seen a governor 62 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: look this pathetic and desperate as Mike Brown has looked yesterday. 63 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: You're you've been you saw it all. What's say you? Well? 64 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 6: I think riffra h That is really the only time 65 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 6: that I've seen a pall cast over the State House, 66 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 6: including the governor and and back then it was a 67 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 6: desperation type of mood. Yesterday was sadness. Yesterday just was uh, 68 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 6: organization day. And that's what they call it. Organization Day 69 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 6: is is a lot of times back to school night 70 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 6: for the legislature and for the lobbyists and the people 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 6: that come to the State House. Yesterday there was there 72 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 6: was just kind of an unrest, uneasiness. Abdull I saw you, 73 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 6: and there wasn't a whole lot of happiness there. 74 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 5: I call it disorganization Day because that is what it was. 75 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 5: It was disorganization day. Now, everybody the House of the 76 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 5: did what they normally do. They come in, you know, hi, 77 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 5: hey guys, good to see Uh. Then they gavel in 78 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 5: and gable out and go home. But in the backdrop 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 5: of all this redistricting nonsense, uh, it added to sort 80 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 5: of an extra element uh to it. And for the 81 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 5: governor to basically double down and basically call lawmakers lazy 82 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 5: they up to work, like, like, dude, you're not winning 83 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 5: friends and influencing people. If anything, you're losing friends. And 84 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 5: a little bit of credibility have left is almost gone. 85 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: So have you ever seen a governor used the language 86 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: that he was using yesterday? I'm basically I think he 87 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: said compel. I'm going to compel them to come back. 88 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: Was it one of the things that he put out. 89 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: It's like playing dungeons and dragons. I don't compel a 90 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: spear off invincibility. 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: You can't see me. 92 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: I'm not here, Like, what the hell. 93 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 5: I've come in politics for thirty years, Illinois and Indiana. 94 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 5: The I've never seen anything quite like this, whether it 95 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 5: was RIFRA, whether it was right to work, whether it's 96 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 5: daylight saving time. Now I go down the list of stuff. 97 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: I have the words. 98 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, you know during COVID, Eric Holcombe ignored the 99 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 6: legislature and they ended up suing each other. I mean, 100 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 6: there's a lot of a lot of a lot of 101 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 6: matter in the air, if you will, a lot of 102 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 6: cloudy skies. But uh, Sarah rod Bray and Speaker Houston 103 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 6: and the governor always played nice in front of people. 104 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 6: There was no accusations, there was no negativity. You knew 105 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 6: in background. I'm sure people were kind of venting toward 106 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 6: each other, but there really wasn't acrimony at all, you know. 107 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: And one other things. So so that's going on, which 108 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: is bizarre. But then they decid they're gonna have this 109 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: quote unquote rally at the state House. And look, the 110 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: worst thing you can do is have an event and 111 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: people don't show up. It's better to not have the 112 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: event at all than have a small crowd. 113 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 5: And we're gonna have a small If you have a 114 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 5: small crowd, get a small rule. 115 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: Well right, right, I mean, you know, like we had 116 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: a big we had a thousand people at our property 117 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: tax rally and you're loud, and but we also put 118 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: it in a smaller space to make it look even 119 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: bigger than it was. I mean, the estimate was a 120 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: thousand people by state police. I think that's probably right, 121 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: but we put it in a place where it's like, 122 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this looks like ten thousand people. 123 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: Right, they are in the what was the atrium? Is 124 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: that where those where. 125 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: They under and like they squished them together when the 126 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: cameras popped up, so it looked like there were people there. 127 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: But then people are doing those aerial shots and it's 128 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: Diego and it's Micah. 129 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: And by the way, if you were. 130 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: Trying to sell a policy to the General Assembly. Those 131 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: are the worst two guys you could run out there. 132 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: Selling the bubble head. 133 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 3: Like you. 134 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: Once again, once again, there was another opportunity for beeople 135 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: to put up or shut up on all the conservatives 136 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: always saying, oh, there's all these people that want this redistricting. 137 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: The poles aren't accurate. Well, but what about these townels 138 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 2: not accurate? 139 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 3: Not a reflection. 140 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so the poles aren't accurate, the town halls aren't accurate. Now, 141 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: your rally didn't really produce anybody, but we're still supposed 142 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: to believe all these people want redistricting. 143 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 6: You know, when I was walking out, I ran into 144 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 6: about six or seven of the ladies that were there, 145 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 6: and wonderful people, and I knew a couple of them. 146 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 6: They knew me and asked for your autograph. Things happenings, 147 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 6: and they did pull me nice and uh do. What 148 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 6: I called that rally was really you know, and it 149 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 6: just it just if you wanted this is your last breath. 150 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 6: This is something that your final uh your final cut, 151 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 6: if you will, of showing some real strength here and 152 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 6: and the resolution that Center Bray put in front of 153 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 6: the of the Senate yesterday that really demonstrated that there 154 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 6: were that the Senate did not want to go to 155 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 6: special session, did not want to vote on redrawing the maps. 156 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: And first of all, number one, First of all, no 157 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 5: one has seen the map to begin with. That's right, 158 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 5: no no maps. So you asked me to vote on 159 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 5: something that I haven't seen. And multiple lawmakers have said 160 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 5: that that's kind of point number one. Point number two 161 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 5: on the Senate side of things, Rod Bray has made 162 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 5: it very clear, and this has always been the Senate policy. 163 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 5: If they don't have the votes, they don't bring it 164 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 5: to the floor. That's exactly right. If they don't they 165 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 5: don't have a majority of the caucus, they don't bring 166 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 5: it to the floor. Plane and something. 167 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, And in fact, my rule was if you don't 168 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 6: have twenty seven votes, you don't go downstairs. 169 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 4: Yep, out of fifty. 170 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: Well, and this is what's weird. 171 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: So Braun went on Hammer and Nigel yes day, and 172 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: I think he said this in another place. He's like, well, 173 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: almost half of his his caucus or half of his 174 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: caucus was was uh, you know, was was was for 175 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: you know, going meeting in December. 176 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: That sounds so desperate. 177 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: So you mean only half of the Republicans even one 178 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: of this, and that's your that's the like ace up 179 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: your sleeve, is that your. 180 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 5: Okay, let's let's do some math here. They're foot Republicans 181 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 5: and ten Democrats, and so the governors hit almost half 182 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 5: the caucus. So that means it even hit twenty your half. 183 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: The guards or you know whatever that they were crazy, yeah, 184 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: but let's just say it was half the caucus, right. 185 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 5: So so so basically what you're saying is it's thirty 186 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 5: seven to twenty is what the vote is. Because there 187 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 5: are no Republicans. You don't have a joy of the Republicans. So, 188 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 5: like I said, I love Mike to death, but Mike, 189 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 5: your math is wrong on this one, big guy. 190 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: Well, and and again it's the whole. 191 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: The ask is fine, the campaigning is fine, the push 192 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: is fine. 193 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 3: But I mentally, you reach a point on. 194 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: This issue where you're just making yourself look completely I mean, 195 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: one ridiculous, but two totally ineffective. Because the other thing 196 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: you're gonna do Jam and your sinners. You can speak 197 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: this better than anybody. He's going to just make those 198 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: guys mad in the Senate to the point where come 199 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,239 Speaker 2: legislative session time, he's not getting anything. 200 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 6: Well, you also remember and and and I'm an institutionalist 201 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 6: and an establishment You remember when the governor's office actually 202 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 6: advertised against state senators on issues last. 203 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: Year one day. 204 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, they whipped out one day. 205 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: They told me they were gonna do that, and I 206 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: got one day at them one day. 207 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 6: But still they are in the mode of the Washington 208 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 6: washing Tonian way of running against Congress and running against 209 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 6: the legislature. And they think that's going to work. But 210 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 6: these gentlemen, these ladies and gentlemen who are in the 211 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 6: Senate Republican Caucus, they've got to go out and talk 212 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 6: to their constituents. And and people kind of pooh pooh that, 213 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 6: But that's actually that's actually a situation that they are 214 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 6: very much in control of. 215 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 3: And and they're and they're. 216 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 6: They are exposed out there in the churches and the 217 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 6: groceries and all those places, and and it's it's they 218 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 6: reflect what they are hearing, and and uh uh they're 219 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 6: not happy about it. There's a sadness about about it. 220 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 6: And uh and this this session coming up in January 221 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 6: through March fifteenth, is going to be very quick. They're 222 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 6: going to fix some things that they think Center Bill 223 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 6: one needs on property tax reform and uh, and they're 224 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 6: going to get out. It's going to be a very quick, 225 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 6: very non controversial session this coming. And and and also Abdila, 226 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 6: you said something on Facebook that I've been thinking all along, 227 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 6: the system of running an election and everything down to 228 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 6: the precincts. 229 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: Uh. 230 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 6: This redraw completely throws a wrench into it, and and 231 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 6: fixing that would be really difficult on a system wide basis, 232 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 6: and in. 233 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 5: A very short amount of time. Just talk to people 234 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 5: to voter registration either Marion County or Hendriskonty wherever, and 235 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 5: they'll tell you, like for them to do this right here, 236 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 5: right now with all these By the way, they haven't 237 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 5: changed the statue to our deadlines for anything. He's got 238 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 5: filing deadlines, you got preestinct many people, you've got conventions. 239 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: Thats it. 240 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 5: For For some reason, people thought this I would just 241 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 5: draw line on a map and that's it. Like no, ye, 242 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 5: it's a lot more than that. 243 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: Okay, So yesterday is fascinating to me just on so 244 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: many levels. 245 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: But when you look at the governor and the way 246 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: he's fighting on this and Jim and I talked about 247 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: this in his segment on Kennell and Casey today. One 248 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: of the reasons people are really mad when we hear 249 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: this from our audience is that we begged him to 250 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: do this on property taxes. The fight he has right 251 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: now was exactly what we begged him to do on 252 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: property taxes. Call a special session, get into the mud 253 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: with these guys, give some name calling. I will compel you, 254 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: like all of that stuff we told him. 255 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 4: Do that. 256 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 2: Any of you failed, people will love you because it 257 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: will come off as this is something for the people. 258 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: Nobody thinks this is for the people. Everybody knows whether 259 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: for it or against it. This is for Trump. This 260 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: is for Trump, and the republic is this is not 261 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: for the people as a collective. And Bim Wilkinson, go, 262 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: you didn't do this for us. What you'll do is 263 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump, who doesn't live in our state. And 264 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: I think that has rubbed a lot of people the 265 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: wrong way. 266 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 5: I think I think it's it's all I think, Franklin, 267 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 5: I think it's all the above. 268 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: I really do. 269 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 5: Number one, there's no logic, no rationale. Indiana has had 270 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 5: some massive shift in population that they were called for 271 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 5: congression redistrict thing. If you're gonna do that, youmans, we'll 272 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 5: redistrict the whole entire state to begin with number number two. 273 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 5: The Republicans didn't want it, Democrats didn't want it. Live 274 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 5: The only people who wanted this were like the people 275 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 5: with that rally and Josh Kelly and a couple other people, 276 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 5: and that was it. 277 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: Nobody else wanted this and that rally, you know, and 278 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: again gim and I this earlier. 279 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 2: It's great anytime somebody gets motivated to come to the 280 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 2: state House petition their government a peaceful, plight manner, that's wonderful. 281 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to pick on the people for that. 282 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 2: But it's the same faces like there was. They weren't like, 283 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: of all, look at all these new like our property 284 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: tax rally. They were all sorts of people who normally 285 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: don't show up the stuff not doing good any good 286 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: in the end. But the reality is like there were 287 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: all these people who hey, I'd never been to one 288 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: of these before I took the day off work and 289 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. 290 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: That rally is all the normal. 291 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: Faces that you saw, which means them and inspired anybody 292 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: new to get involved. 293 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 6: Well, I heart back to the time when they went 294 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 6: special session in twenty twenty two for the life issue 295 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 6: because the federal government had changed how that how that 296 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 6: is governed, and that took a you know, the base 297 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 6: was really happy about going to special session, and you 298 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 6: and these members of the Senate and the House of 299 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 6: Representatives of the State House had heard from their base 300 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 6: everywhere that they win, and and there was a lot 301 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 6: of motivation. There's a lot of reason to go to 302 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 6: special session. And and if if that base had really 303 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 6: come out on this, they would have done moved heaven 304 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 6: and earth to go to special session in August, uh 305 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 6: for this issue this past August. But they didn't because 306 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 6: the base wasn't totally in line. 307 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: With it, and because the base actually, how can I 308 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 5: say this, I don't necessarily agree with the base, but 309 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 5: the base has common sense on this one even brokes 310 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 5: common sense. 311 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, let's talk real quick about Is that the 312 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: nicest thing you've ever said to me? 313 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 4: I think so? Oh, thank you. Uh. 314 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: Let's talk about these people now who. 315 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: Are threatening primary challenge. 316 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, because I find it fascinating that these 317 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: there are people who think this redistricting issue is some 318 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: sort of silver bullet. 319 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: When polling overwhelmingly. 320 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: Shows people are against the redistricting the town halls, people 321 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: haven't shown up who are for it. This rally was 322 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: a complete zero. So nobody's ever emerged this, This group 323 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: of people that's supposed to be for this has never emerged. 324 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: Yet. 325 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: Now these people seem to think because Trump wants it, 326 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: that somehow that's that they're gonna win primaries against established 327 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: politicians with infrastructure, with money, with with with voter lists, 328 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: you know, lists, all of these things. To me, that 329 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: is a fool's Errand to hang your hat on redistricting. 330 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 5: It's a damn fool's errand to hang your hat on 331 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 5: And number two, I said, I've said this the other 332 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 5: day to a good friend of mine. It's like, okay, 333 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 5: let me see if I get this right now. You 334 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 5: guys are going to run a primary challenge because this 335 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: person did what his district told him to do. That's right, right, 336 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 5: Let okay, let me say that again. You're going to 337 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 5: run a primary challenge against the lawmaker was just basically 338 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 5: doing what his district wanted. 339 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: That's right. 340 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 5: And you want to do what the district doesn't want, 341 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 5: and that's going to get you to win. 342 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: Page two. 343 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 6: You know, I really I really thought that, I really 344 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 6: thought that the Senate Republican Caucus may lose three seats 345 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 6: on this issue, either at in a primary or a general. 346 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 6: I don't believe that now. I I also think that 347 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 6: Rod bray Is is a lifelong Republican, great politician. He 348 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 6: understands the system, and he also understands campaigning. And and 349 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 6: they have to been polling on there on the stress points, 350 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 6: on the sword points, and and uh, and good on 351 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 6: them because they're prepared and I'm sure on those on 352 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 6: those polls they've asked the questions that you know, what 353 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 6: they think is their candidates that are going for re 354 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 6: election that might be at risk, and and they know 355 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 6: what the risk points are and and and their polling 356 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 6: has told them this is not a risk point. This 357 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 6: is not a place where you're going to lose a 358 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 6: primary election. 359 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: I'm mailers that'll be going out. Yeah. 360 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, But it kind of goes throughbb's point. It's not 361 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 5: just saying hey, down at some point of this and 362 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 5: he didn't do it. You gotta have a message. You 363 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 5: gotta have got people out in the streets now knocking 364 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 5: on doors. You gotta have the YOUTA, have all the 365 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 5: campaign infrastructure, you have to money, yeah, the brings and 366 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 5: Brussels sprouts of campaigning. Yeah, and people think, hey, I 367 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 5: just got this great mess Like, well, if you can't 368 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 5: deliver the message, then what's the point. 369 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 3: All right, let's take a break when we come back 370 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 3: of duel. 371 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna hate to do this, but the uh, you 372 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: were right about something, and well, I think we gotta 373 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: talk about this because I think it actually is important 374 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: to one of the reasons they did not redistrict. 375 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: So we'll talk about that next. 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So one 410 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: of the things that you and I and Jim have 411 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: talked about about the Senate not wanting to redistricting is 412 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: if you went after Marion County and you chopped up 413 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: Marion County, which is Andre Carson's district, a predominantly black district, 414 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 2: that there was a strong chance that was gonna end 415 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: up in court, and there was a chance, good chance 416 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: you might lose in court, at least at the lower levels. 417 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: And now we have seen. Look as of right now, 418 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: now this is going to go to Supreme courts. Who 419 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 2: knows how it's gonna end up. But as of right now, 420 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: the Texas maps have been thrown out by a Trump 421 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: appointed judge because of how they're affecting black and Hispanic people. 422 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: Exactly. 423 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 5: And the funny thing when I laugh at this, like 424 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 5: we need to do this because California did it well, 425 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 5: California did it because Texas did it well, Texas maps 426 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 5: have been thrown out, so now California it's got five 427 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 5: extra exactly congressional seats. 428 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: Now, now again the Supreme Court may say, hey, that 429 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: Judge Erdan is ruling the maps are fine. 430 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 3: I actually think that's what's gonna happen. 431 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: But the point is, this is what we've always said, 432 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: You and I have always said, is that there was 433 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: a strong chance this map may not survive because of 434 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: until they they which I think they will do, overturn this. 435 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: This the voting the Voting Rights Act that's been in 436 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: front of them right now the Supreme Court does this 437 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: is still a law. 438 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 5: And another part of it is too is what pet 439 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 5: what people don't understand is I don't think they'll throw 440 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 5: the Voting Rights Act Act out. What I do think 441 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 5: will happen is so you can't jurymanaged to create to 442 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 5: create minority majority of districts anymore now the continuous population 443 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 5: and centers, that type, that type of thing. But I 444 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 5: don't think the Supreme Court will go so far say 445 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 5: you can carve them up to dilute their voting power, 446 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 5: because that's pretty much clear, uh, a violation of the 447 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 5: Voting Rights Act. So I think that's probably that's probably 448 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 5: not going to spit the difference. You can't necessarily make 449 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 5: a black district, but you also can't divide up like 450 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 5: district either. And if you look at the the maps 451 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 5: that no one has seen, the possible map is mary 452 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 5: CON's divided into like into three districts. No, the first 453 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 5: over here, the fourth over here in like the sixth 454 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 5: and eighth over here. And I said it like, and 455 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 5: I looked at it's like, Okay, let's say the court 456 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 5: allows for it to happen. Be careful what you wish 457 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 5: for because you just might get it. And I remind 458 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 5: people too, it's twenty twenty six, it's a it's an 459 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 5: election year, but there's no secret But there's no governor's race, 460 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 5: no presidential race, no usit and race. It's who's at 461 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 5: the top of the tick, Secretary of state and who's yeah, 462 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 5: exactly right, it's it's bo By versus you know, the 463 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 5: you know, the who's your idol? Exactly yeah. 464 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: And so I did think that was interesting though that 465 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: we have been saying that for months on this program 466 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: on our Kendall and Casey show that if you carved 467 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: up Marion County. There is a strong chance, at least 468 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: at the lower levels, it would go down in court. 469 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 2: And now we've seen this play out in Texas, and 470 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure that was part of what Bray was considering, 471 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 2: which was hey, on the fly, which relative to time 472 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: they normally put into drawing congressional districts, this would have 473 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: been on the fly. We're not sure we pull this 474 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: off that a little stand the legal test, much less 475 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: be able to get the desired result. 476 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: And has it Indian bought enough lawsuits already? Well that's that. 477 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: That's that's the thing. 478 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: Now, Now, does Braun have anyone who can pull him 479 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: aside and go a yacht, just let this go. It's over, 480 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: Like does he have that person? Because it doesn't. He 481 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 2: just keeps making himself look worse the way he's not 482 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: just that he's still fighting this, okay whatever, but the 483 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: eye because of the compel like this, it's like, you're 484 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: not gonna tell them to do anything to yeah, exactly 485 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 2: that property tax. 486 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 5: You're gonna tell you something else with yourself, but to 487 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 5: be really honest with you. But as I said, as 488 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 5: I said it, and short of watched this whole thing 489 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 5: unfold yesterday. I just had there like it's like I'm 490 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 5: watching the world just bird in front of my eyes, 491 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 5: right man, in slow motion? That literally this, this is 492 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 5: what I'm watching the world burn and for for Micah 493 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 5: beck With and Diego rallis to first of all, anything 494 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 5: those knuckleheads want, you automatically know what's bad for Indiana. 495 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: That's kind of point number one. 496 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 5: And it was and the John Schmitz there with his 497 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 5: media badge, and it was so it was it was 498 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: like the fight like of a capla crazy like, Okay, 499 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 5: is this play over yet? 500 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 4: Are we done? 501 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 5: Can we go call home now and just call it 502 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 5: a day and get back to some kind of normalcy. 503 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 504 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: And it come back to them we touched on earlier. 505 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: If you can't produce the people eventually, it's not just 506 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: a conspiracy or the pollings rigged or like nobody has 507 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: an answer why nobody showed up to the Greg good 508 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: Town Hall in terror hate that was open to the public. 509 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: Anybody could waltz in there. Overwhelmingly people who were against 510 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: it showed up and smoke their mind. They you know, 511 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: you can't say it because people had to work. It 512 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: was on a Saturday. 513 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 4: And and what Greg where? Greg? Who did? 514 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 5: And this is why I love Greg to death. Is 515 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 5: Greg toipate to participate in his town hall on redistrict team. 516 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: He had to live in the district, That's right. And 517 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 5: so they made sure they had lists of all the 518 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 5: zip codes and they checked ID. If your zip code 519 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 5: didn't if your zip code and your idea didn't match 520 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 5: one of those zip codes, you weren't getting it. 521 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: Which I got no problem with. 522 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: I think that was brilliant on his part, because if 523 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: you're not in a constituent, why would I want to 524 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: hear from you. 525 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then the whole swatting thing that happened well 526 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 5: to him afterwards. 527 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: I want to talk about that real quick because Greg 528 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 2: greg Good is senator from TERA hate he had not 529 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 2: and the crazy is the guy not even come out 530 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: in favor or against everything. 531 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 4: Still listening to people. 532 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: Now, Look, that's kind of pathetic that if it's seventy 533 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: to zero at your event, you go, I need to 534 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: hear more from people. I think you probably heard kind 535 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: of just kind of cowardly to not just come out 536 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: and say where are you're for at this point, But 537 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: that's either here nor there. The point is Trump calls 538 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: him out on social media. Now I'm not saying that 539 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: two are related. 540 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: We don't. 541 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: The investigation is going on, but that's a heck of 542 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: a coincidence that with then what a day or whatever, 543 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 2: Greg good is swatted at his house in which somebody 544 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: had filed a fake essentially polite, not police report, but 545 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: but emergency. 546 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 5: What they did was and this is why, this is 547 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 5: why I always that can respect evil, had no patience 548 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 5: for stupid they sent. But they send the police department 549 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 5: an email saying, hey, there's something going on Greg Goods house, 550 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 5: blah blah blah whatever. 551 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: It was. 552 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 5: Like, you realize emails can be traced, right, and you 553 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 5: can't assary in some email, you can technically hide the 554 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 5: VPN number. Law enforcement has tools that can get around 555 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 5: the whole VPN. 556 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: Number well, and and so you know, then then the 557 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 2: law enforcement shows up at the house. This is very 558 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: dangerous because if they think somebody is in crisis in 559 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: the house, they come into the house, they're expecting to 560 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: encounter a scene. Obviously nothing's going on there. That was 561 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: totally reprehensible. Whoever whoever did that, and his wife and 562 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: somewhere in the basement getting a Christmas presence out of story. Yeah, 563 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: and I'm not a Greg Good fan politically, but nobody 564 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: deserves that. 565 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. That's utterly ridiculous. And hopefully they catch 566 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: whoever it was. 567 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: But the point is all of this bluster about redistricting 568 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: is coming from guys like this dude, d C. Draino, 569 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: who lives in Florida. 570 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like. 571 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: People outside of our state and the President of the 572 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: United States, and you look at the people in Indiana 573 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: go at best, they really don't seem to care. At 574 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: most those who do, they're over. They're I mean overwhelmingly, 575 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: I guess I would say. I mean, look, if it's 576 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 2: fifty to thirty to me, that sounds overwhelming. Like if 577 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: it's fifty fifty against thirty four and twenty undecided, to me, 578 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: that seems pretty over. 579 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: That's a large margin of people that who care about this, 580 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: that are not for. 581 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 5: It right exactly and again, and as I said, they 582 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 5: just sort of watched the watch this whole thing unfold. 583 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 5: I was like, we come a long way from Mitch 584 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 5: Daniels and Mike Pence and Eric Holcomb to this well. 585 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: Keeps getting worse. We had the we had the Crown 586 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: Jewel and Mitch Daniels and now we've just slowly worked 587 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: worked their way backwards. 588 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 5: And the thing is, Mike is not stupid. Michau's very 589 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 5: I'll put it this way. My assentiment of Mike Braun 590 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 5: is Michae's a very smart businessman, but he has horrible acumen. 591 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got people around him are giving horrible advice. 592 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: I mean, he got totally burned on property taxes because 593 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: he didn't have the stomach to see it through. And 594 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: not only did he lose, then he pissed everybody off 595 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: in the process. And now it's happening again, and he 596 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 2: just looks desperate and he looks sad, and it's like, 597 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: come on, dude, you're the governor. Get it together, and. 598 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 5: This type of language you want to use, you know, 599 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 5: they need to show up for work. They are at work. 600 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, what an exciting show that was today. 601 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: Jim merrit, if you will give you baz, thank you, 602 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: thank you. 603 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: I'm doctor Jim Dalton, President and CEO of Daymar. 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