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Speaker 1: Lie from the heart, Bland and the crossroads of America.

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Speaker 1: It's Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: Motive is necessary. You can't tell me that a guy

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Speaker 2: shoots at members of a church after driving his truck

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Speaker 2: into the church and engages setting the church on fire.

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Speaker 2: The shootings killed two, the fire killed two. And there's

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Speaker 2: no motive. Can't can't have that, can't abide that. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. Find everything

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Speaker 2: I do over at Tony Katz dot com. Eight three

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Speaker 2: three four six eight eight six six' nine eight three

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Speaker 2: three Got. Tony the chat room is asking the question

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Speaker 2: can we talk about Dearborn michigan that seems to think

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Speaker 2: in many many ways that sure we could be In islamis.

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Speaker 2: City what are you going to do about? It, WELL

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Speaker 2: i think there's a great number of things that we

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Speaker 2: can do about. It because every citizen of The United

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Speaker 2: states is guaranteed a republic form of government as Per article,

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Speaker 2: Four section four of The. Constitution and if anybody wants

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Speaker 2: to find out whether or not The constitution ride supreme

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Speaker 2: to The quran in The United states Of, america allow

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Speaker 2: me to provide the. Answer the answer is. Yes and

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Speaker 2: if we have to show so with force we. Should

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Speaker 2: that isn't our subject right. Now our subject is what

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Speaker 2: the bloody hack happened in this. Shooting why in the

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Speaker 2: world did this guy In, michigan why did he drive

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Speaker 2: his truck through this? Church forty year old the name

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Speaker 2: is out, there but we don't give names, here drove

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Speaker 2: his vehicle into the front of a church Of Jesus

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Speaker 2: christ Of latter Day. Saints Some mormon open fire on

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Speaker 2: the people who were. There there was a shootout with

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Speaker 2: law enforcement who showed up some thirty.

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Speaker 3: Seconds after they were.

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Speaker 2: Notified it's pretty incredible to an extent surprised there was nobody.

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Speaker 3: There who was.

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Speaker 2: Armed you know HOW i feel about. This you must

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Speaker 2: be armed at your place of worship at all. Times

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Speaker 2: there is no. Question there is no debate. Here you

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Speaker 2: must be armed at all times in your place of.

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Speaker 2: Worship if you are, not if you've got a pastor

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Speaker 2: who says, no if you've got a priest, or a,

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Speaker 2: rabbi everybody's, like, no you don't have weapons. Here fire that,

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Speaker 2: pastor priest, or. Rabbi quit go somewhere. Else but what's

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Speaker 2: going to stop somebody from driving their car through and

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Speaker 2: it's this pickup truck and there are Two american flags

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Speaker 2: sticking out the.

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Speaker 3: Back you're, like what is? This and then you learn

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Speaker 3: that the.

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Speaker 2: Suspect was in The, marines and you're, Like, okay Now

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Speaker 2: i'm even more.

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Speaker 3: Lost what is going on? Here?

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Speaker 2: NOW i know what the trolls, say being people who are,

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Speaker 2: indecent they'll, say, oh look, what maga?

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Speaker 3: DID i have no idea about? Anything? Yet can we find?

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Speaker 2: Out we knew things about the assassin Of Charlie, kirk

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Speaker 2: we knew things About, nashville we knew things about the school,

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Speaker 2: there The catholic school In. MINNESOTA i got nothing here

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Speaker 2: except the guy set a church on. FIRE i don't

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Speaker 2: know why we don't have more. Information i'm annoyed by

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Speaker 2: the fact that we don't have more. Information we have

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Speaker 2: to have more information. Now within this story there is

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Speaker 2: a whole host of conversations regarding what it is people

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Speaker 2: report and what it is people don't and WHY i

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Speaker 2: have no interest in anybody not reporting the full story,

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Speaker 2: Here just like the shooting In North, carolina and you're,

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Speaker 2: Like i'm, Sorry North. Carolina maybe some people didn't find

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Speaker 2: out about The North carolina.

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Speaker 3: Story In North.

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Speaker 2: Carolina you have got a guy who was on his

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Speaker 2: boat going past the dockside, restaurant started firing on the

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Speaker 2: crowd in the. Restaurant three people, dead eight people. Injured

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Speaker 2: this it starts going through the intra. Coastals it takes

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Speaker 2: the coast guard to find. Him this guy also.

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Speaker 1: Former.

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Speaker 2: Military that's at least the. Reporting could it, change, well

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Speaker 2: of course anything could. Change will it? CHANGE i have

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Speaker 2: absolutely positively no. Idea what is happening? Here why is

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Speaker 2: this taking? Place, Well, tony it's because we have? Guns

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Speaker 2: it is not because we have. Guns we have had.

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Speaker 2: Guns this is something. Else what is this? Thing and

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Speaker 2: are we a society willing to ask ourselves and speak

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Speaker 3: It what is going on? Here why is this?

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Speaker 2: Happening for what reason does somebody just start shooting at a?

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Speaker 2: Restaurant what reason does someone drive.

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Speaker 3: Through a? CHURCH i don't have.

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Speaker 2: ANSWERS i do know that we have to ask the

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Speaker 2: question right AND i do know that we simply cannot

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Speaker 2: go without. Information there are times where information is not,

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Speaker 2: forthcoming there are times when it is kept from. Us

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Speaker 2: and we have seen this, happen and certainly we need

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Speaker 2: more and more not to allow. IT i cannot tell

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Speaker 2: you what happened was at The route ninety One Harvest

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Speaker 2: festival In Las.

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Speaker 3: VEGAS i have no idea what.

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Speaker 2: HAPPENED i have absolutely no idea what happened. Here how

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Speaker 2: did this guy get to that floor of THE? Mgm

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Speaker 2: how do you get the guns? In how do you

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Speaker 2: kill so many? People how is it possible that we

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Speaker 2: have such little? INFORMATION i don't, know BUT i know

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Speaker 2: this that dog won't. Hunt it doesn't. WORK i have

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Speaker 2: seen like you have seen transgender, shooters and they've left.

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Speaker 2: Information they've left, notes what they call. Manifestos everything's a.

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Speaker 2: Manifesto oh you can't read. That it might lead to more.

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Speaker 2: Violence stop. IT i want to know what's going. On

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Speaker 2: we all need to know what's going. On we need

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Speaker 2: to be able to, say, clearly here is what. Happened

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Speaker 2: these two things are not. DIFFERENT i don't even know

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Speaker 2: how to. Speculate we've got two members of the, military

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Speaker 2: at least that's what the reporting.

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Speaker 3: Is someone's gonna tell me WHAT.

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Speaker 2: Ptsd someone's gonna tell me that it's.

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Speaker 3: Political it's not.

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Speaker 2: Political there was a girlfriend inside each. PLACE i don't

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Speaker 2: have an. Answer AM i gonna listen to the people

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Speaker 2: who are gonna say.

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Speaker 3: To, me, MAGA i have no idea the deal these guys.

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Speaker 2: Are they Had american flags on the back of the

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Speaker 2: truck that ran into the.

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Speaker 3: Church what do you want me to do with that?

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Speaker 3: Information if you want to make a guess out of,

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Speaker 3: that you.

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Speaker 2: Can BUT i don't have the. STORY i don't have

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Speaker 2: what this guy was watching. ONLINE i don't have an

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Speaker 2: idea of this guy's.

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Speaker 3: FAMILY i don't have.

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Speaker 2: Anything no matter what the story, is we got to

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Speaker 2: be able to talk about. It that other people want

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Speaker 2: to use things, politically pay them no. Mind our job

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Speaker 2: is to ask what is happening here and why is it?

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Speaker 3: Happening why is it? Happening and if.

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Speaker 2: The answer from some people is, well you, see the

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Speaker 2: problem is. Guns the problem is not. Guns law abiding

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Speaker 2: gun owners all across the country.

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Speaker 3: Not engaged in, this not engaged in. This some people aren't.

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Speaker 2: Gonna want to talk about this because what there's a military.

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Speaker 2: Story this guy for the church shooting was in the

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Speaker 2: marinesousand and four to two thousand and. Eight automotive mechanic

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Speaker 2: vehicle recovery operator deployed To iraq From august two thousand

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Speaker 2: and seven Through march two thousand and.

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Speaker 3: Eight he was a. SERGEANT i don't.

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Speaker 2: Know the answers are, necessary and they need to come

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Speaker 2: very very. Soon these are not things that could be

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Speaker 2: just left to disappear.

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Speaker 3: As if it never. Happened it very much.

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Speaker 2: Happened I'm Tony, katz and this Is Tony katz today